/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Is there an order that radicals go in, like an alphabet or something?

uuuh I think you used the wrong OP pic there friend

>>18654823
乙

What sites to buy ln/mango from? Mandarake shit-listed me.

>直
Fuck this kanji and the 27 readings it has that make it fuck me over in every word it appears in

>learning individual readings

>>18654930
「直立する」の"チョク"と、「直す、直る」の"なお"と、「正直」の"ジキ"
この３つで大体はカバーされているはず

他にも読み方はあるけれど、使われる頻度（ひんど）はぐっと下がる

>>18654840
Sort of - number of strokes
>>18654930
This is why learning words is much more sensible then learning kanji

>>18654995
>number of strokes
but not a set order, like 一,丿,乛 etc?

>>18654922
Amazon ships them overseas. The shipping is over 50% of the base price though

>>18655033
More like over 100%

>>18655038
Over 50% and over 100% are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

>>18655038

Why do they charge so much.. is it cheaper for a digital copy?
or are they tiny res and useless

>>18655038
>>18655033
Depends on how much you order.
It's 800 yen for the shipment + another 300 yen per item (to Europe).

>>18655056

>>18655070
damn do you live in the south pole

>>18655070
That is also my experience ordering any Japanese material in Australia.

I hate it.

>>18655078
No, but I live in a country known for having absurd taxes and tariffs so I should expect this

hey mattzumoto, how much japanese exchange student pussy did you get to make sure you were fully immersed in japanese?

what was it like going down on them under your manga wall?

What do you estimate is the percentage of visual novels, light novels, and manga translated into English?
I want to know how much more shit I'd have access to if I understood Japanese.

>>18655120
bout tree fiddy

>>18655120
>I want to know how much more shit I'd have access to if I understood Japanese.
At least ten times more.

>>18655120
All of it, since translations are compromised.

I tried reading some manga on kindle and it comes in a pretty poor resolution. Is that normal? It feels like the image height is smaller than my monitor

>>18655120
learning japanese is less about having lots of material and more about actually being able to appreciate the material instead of getting stuck with monkey english translations

so the answer to your question is infinity more shit

>>18655454
>infinity more shit
Finally, I'll be exposed to shit writing, in JAPANESE

おはようおにいちゃん

さくらがさいた

１分咲きくらいだよ

Does 言 care if you write the top stroke as a line or a tick?

Will it fuck me up if I make a habit of writing it a particular way?

Is Sakubi a good resource to brush up on my grammar? I went through most of Tae Kim's stuff in the past but many of the intricacies/rules have since left me.

>>18655560
てんだよ

永の１画目

>>18655422
Well which Kindle do you have? I sometimes read manga on my Kobo Aura One and it looks good but it does have a 1872 x 1404 resolution. Looks like some Kindles only have a 800x600 screen and that's probably not enough to read manga comfortably.

>>18655709
Kindle for PC, duh

>>18655709
Kindle for PC from amazon. It just looks like images are really small, like 900x600 and if I zoom in the image just gets blurry.

Is it fine to say おはよおう as you're leaving? Either as a "good bye" or a "have a good day"?

>>18655828
No

>>18655832
Well, fuck, I just did this shit for some reason. Ty anon

>>18655828
おはよう

のはんたいは

おつかれ

だよ

はいあんきして

おつかれー

>>18654995
I have been learning words is the thing. This one shows up in so many of the words in my deck, and its like its different every time so I keep getting them wrong because I never remember which random reading its going to be this time and answer wrong.

The standalone kanji itself is no less than 20 different words, all with different pronunciations too, so even in context you get fucked.

>>18655839
You have fucked up, m8. 腹切する.

>>18655882
ご苦労って感じは？

>>18655885
Imagine for a second you were learning English instead. This is analogous to hopping onto your local Daily English Thread and blogging about how you never know the pronunciation of "ough" when it appears inside words on your English anki flashcards.

You seem like you know English so I assume you see how stupid that sounds to anyone who actually spends time listening to the language. Learning words isn't about trying to drill the letters into your memory using anki, it's about hearing them in practice and being aware on a base level that they exist.

Reading requires that base level awareness of the existence of a pronounced word, having a good picture of the contexts it might be used in, and knowing what symbols stand in for it on paper. All that intuitive knowledge is what allows you to see something like this and read it properly:
直に帰ってくる
胸を直に触る
This is an example where 直 is by itself and followed by に but the same concept applies to every other use case, including when it's with other kanji. The same set of skills is used to tell you how to read it.

Unfortunately getting that intuition takes a shit ton of input but it's the one and only way, so no real use complaining. Anki can help a little bit with the "base level awareness" and by reminding you that a word exists, and it can help a lot with exposing you to tons of kanji, but at the end of the day a couple dictionary entries and example sentences won't build a full map of a word's usage in your head.

>>18655120
Buckets.

So i decided i want to type in the answer in my anki core2k/6k deck. Should i type the english definition or the kana reading? Or is there some way to type both as the answer?

>>18655092
This. I'm an amerifat; shipping is strait Juden, even domestically, shit from jp is just nuts- $20 and up if unless I want to use sal.

>>18656052
meant for >>18655093

>>18656052
It can't be as bad as >>18655070 though, I live in the US and I only have to pay about 80% of the price of my physical manga in shipping, not 280%

>>18656015
But all I have for now is anki with these words (they have yet to show up so far in my reading material, go figure).

So all that's happening is that I get them right and then get them wrong 1-3 days later, forever and ever. I think one of them made it to 7 days once and I just got it wrong. I'm probably better off just making a separate deck of just these words because half of them are leeches already.

>>18656015
>Imagine for a second you were learning English instead
Not that anon, but despite starting to learn English in 4th grade and getting fluent enough to read Harry Potter novels only at about 7th grade, I honestly can't remember a single thing about my learning English.

It's like, I don't feel like I'm having problems with vocabulary. Grammar was hard, but I never felt struggling with it. Speaking in English was also never a problem outside of stutter.

Learning Japanese is a much more frustrating experience.

>>18656107
>So all that's happening is that I get them right and then get them wrong 1-3 days later, forever and ever.
Is this about the 20 words containing 直? If so, what I do with really confusing terms that I mistake easily and often is to go out of Anki all together. I put those 20 words on a piece of paper (printed), and just go to town on them.

Do hourly reviews until you're sick of it. Spend some time on making your own personal mnemonics for the difference between each word. Wake up with that paper next to your bed and have them be the first thing you test yourself on in the morning. Yeah, you're breaking out of the SRS thing with really frequent reviews, but people have different memorization hurdles.

Once you feel absolutely bored with it, put them back (or unsuspend them) into Anki and maybe press "Hard".

>>18656107
If they eat up that much of your time I'd just delete them from anki. Or yeah, make a separate deck like you said, but really there's no need to worry about it that much. Anki isn't the right solution to resolve confusion like the kind you're dealing with, in fact it just makes it easier to get confused since everything is mixed up together and out of context. Just read and listen and let your brain fill in the gaps

>>18656111
Maybe it's because you were younger and less reserved about it? I could see myself being a lot less stressed with learning Japanese if I had started it at age 10, but I don't know if it would actually be a faster process in terms of years.

>>18656135
This is a bunch of wasted time, just watch cartoons for christ's sake

>>18656154
>I don't know if it would actually be a faster process in terms of years
To be honest, I don't know why I expected to be good enough in Japanese to be able to read majority of Japanese books within a year. I had not done that for either my natural language or English. I'm just impatient. So many porn I could've read, y'know? All those Artist CGs on sadpanda.

>>18656164
You could have been reading in a year if you actually put some effort in.

>>18656173
But putting effort is haard and I want to read that porn now.

I mean, I can already read like 30% of most Japanese media I choose to consume now, so there's definitely progress! After 9 years of casual learning.

>>18656015
>胸を直に触る

>>18654854
Kill yourself.

Well today I learnt that とにもかくにも is a thing.

>［副］ １ それはさておき。いずれにしても。とにかく。 ２ 何やかやと。あれこれと。

>>18656470
cool blog

>>18654922
Remember when 4chan premium accounts used to be a joke?

>>18655968
ごはちょっと

としよりっぽい

>>18654823
>OJT
Why is this starting back up?

>>18656596
It suits this place.

>>18656507
Remember when this site was made so you didn't have to pay 10BUX to post?

>>18654823
netlify update when

I just met this word: 出撃.
Seriously, what the FUCK is a sortie?

>>18656714
What have you posted to be added?

>>18656726
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortie
>A sortie (from the French word meaning exit) is a deployment or dispatch of one military unit, be it an aircraft, ship, or troops, from a strongpoint.

>>18656726
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortie
>A sortie (from the French word meaning exit) is a deployment or dispatch of one military unit, be it an aircraft, ship, or troops, from a strongpoint.
You could have figured this out just from the kanji.

>>18656069
Not as bad but bad enough; it's just a book bro

>>18656023
Huge waste of time. Just be honest with your answers. You should not be averaging more than 5 seconds per review. Reading is more important as long as you have a feeling for what it means.

>>18656507
>>18656699
Just fill out the captcha brothers.

i have a feeling that わたしはゲイ

>>18656714
Some time next month.

This is my I think 3rd or 4th time taking N5. In the exam I felt like I'm gonna fail it again and been crying since, but after recollecting myself, I think I finally understand why I'm failing.

Little background of skill level: I haven't actually studied Japanese seriously until maybe a few years ago. I memorized Hiragana and Katakana many, many years ago via sheer exposure (sister was full-weeb that time so I got so I got to watch her play Japanese video games a lot), and then around 2-3 years ago I started grinding vocab via lexikeet, I think, which helped me understand radicals and learned how to write kanji correctly
And then 0-1 years back from right now I've mostly been learning Japanese via Anki, did some translation projects for some 4komas and game content, but I never did take the effort to learn these vocabulary like putting them in an Anki deck and grinding each day. Right now I talk to some Japanese acquaintances every now and then online in a community I'm in, using mostly vocab to deliver broken-but-understandable Japanese. I even got a sponsored trip to Japan last month for my translation work.

Anyway, cutting straight to the point, it seems that grammar is my weakest point, and listening also still needs some improvement. I'm pretty sure I aced vocab minus one question (I had no idea what みがいています meant at the time... but ironically I knew what the kanji 磨く means, so I would have gotten it right if the question used kanji instead of full hiragana). Heck, my gf who passed N3 a while ago didn't know the kanji for 砂糖 but I did, lol

Constructive advice would be appreciated, thanks. I'm thinking of immediately retaking this July, and hoping that my grammar would be fixed by then.

>>18656917
same

>>18655120
>What do you estimate is the percentage of visual novels, light novels, and manga translated into English?

Do you realize translations are garbage made by people like >>18656917

>>18656726
have you never watched gundam before faggot?

>>18656912
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text="わたしはゲイ"
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a/text/"私はゲイ"/

>>18655567
Sakubi is meant for people with no prior experience to plow through. If you've already read another grammar guide, it might cover stuff the first one didn't, but you're better reading and using reference material instead.

>>18656726
O NO NO NO NO

>>18655120
Most translations are so bad that you should pretend they don't exist. Even for very simple things.

>>18656917
How is it even possible to fail the N5 more than once.

>>18656726
I swear I have seen this exact post with these exact words before

>>18656726
I swear I have seen this exact post with these exact words before

>>18657255

My particles are fucked up.

銀行に小切手で入金して郵便局に手紙を出して歩き回って写真を撮りました。

how do you practice and get particles down pat.
I know that に is often used for either time or location and で is used to specifies the means/methods, を is a direct object marker, が is subject marker, は is the topic marker and へ shows direction.
That is basic overview but how do you go from looking at the particles in depth to using them correctly with the correct type of verbs.

For example: Taken from: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20180321/k10011373581000.html
また、夫婦で訪れた広島市西区の５０代の女性は「日本酒が好きでよく飲みますが、ふだん飲まない銘柄も味わうことができ、楽しかったです」と話していました
I would not think to use で here and instead use を in the 夫婦で訪れた, isn't 夫婦 the object of the verb 訪れた what does で mean here? Is it the difference between "...visited by married couples..." and "...married couples visited..."?

>>18657462
read and watch more stuff

>>18657462
>Trying to analyze grammar

The red big dog.

>>18657578
Oh, I didn't know there was a breed called big dog. And they can get red hair?

>>18657462
Visited as a married couple. It's similar to 一人で (by oneself).
It is impossible to produce natural Japanese until after you can understand it fluently.

I'm a beginner and I looked at the guide in the OP. The first thing the guide mentions is grammar and Tae Kim, so I started reading that (pdf version)
In the second Tae Kim chapter it explains Hiragana, so should I sit and start learning all Hiragana until I can rememeber what they mean and how to write them? Or what? In the guide it says
>You shouldn't expect to memorise everything you read the first time around in whatever guide you choose, but you should be aiming to understand it.
Or should I start by reading something else?

>>18657645
Step one is to read the whole DJT guide.

>>18657665
I did but then I forgot I did like a fool.
Guess I'll continue until I know all hiragana

>>18657645
>so should I sit and start learning all Hiragana until I can rememeber what they mean
Hiragana have no meaning. Just get a smartphone application that you can use to practise recognition. This will take around a week. Don't bother with mnemonics for kana, just cram them; the same way you would cram Greek or Russian letters. Do the same for katakana sometime later. You can postpone the katakana for a while, really.

>>18657645
Don't be like the RTK cucks that memorize symbols all day, just absorb the hiragana through context. Get the 6k deck and Anki and start reading

>>18657712
Core is even more of a waste of time than RTK.

>>18657696
>Hiragana have no meaning. Just get a smartphone application that you can use to practise recognition. This will take around a week. Don't bother with mnemonics for kana, just cram them; the same way you would cram Greek or Russian letters. Do the same for katakana sometime later. You can postpone the katakana for a while, really.
Not that I could doubt you, but why do you say that?

>>18657712
>>18657727
Getting some mixed signals here

>>18657727
This is true. One should just pick up a Japanese novel on day 1 and start reading it, then you'll immediately be better than the Japanese from Zero guy

>>18657062
ok its more than a feeling at this point わたしは正真正銘ゲイであります笑

>>18657732
Just watch all of MattvsJapan's videos

>>18657735
I can confirm this. I read an isekai novel through brute force and suddenly I knew enough Japanese to get a job and pass the N1.

>>18657732
https://djtguide.neocities.org/kana/index.html
watch a video with pronunciation too

>>18657834
昨晩の8時に何をしていましたか

>>18657903
オナニー
とても楽しみだったんだ
楽天に届いた

なるほどね

>>18656107
Decks and cards aren't the answers to everything. I would make a list of the words that use the kanji and just review the list every day for a week or something. In cases where you are mixing up readings/meanings I find that it is easier to fix the problem if I can look at all of the words at the same time.

>>18657925
そうですか。わかりました。

>>18658025
はーい！

Ｔｈａｔ　ｆｅｅｌｉｎｇ　ｗｈｅｎ　ｙｏｕ　ｔｒａｎｓｌａｔｅ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｆｉｒｓｔ　ｓｅｎｔｅｎｃｅ．．．　Ａｍ　Ｉ　Ｊａｐａｎｅｓｅ　ｎｏｗ？！

もうおやめなさい

>>18658083
だが断る！！！

>>18654823
>人や組織・国などの動きを封じるために、組織だって周りを取り囲むこと

Can somebody explain the meaning of that だって here? I tried thinking of it as a も but, even then, the sentnce doesn't make much sense to me.
This is a deffinition for 包囲網.

>>18658155
its one of the meanings you didnt eliminate in your post

>>18658202
This kind of enigmatic "I-don't-want-to-spoonfeed-you" tin foil tier posting is getting out of hand, don't you guys think?

>>18658155
Seconding this anon.
I know two definitions for だって, one is "because" and the other is "even a...", but neither of those fit there.

>>18658213
He is the lowercase shitposter. If you see a post with no capitalization, ignore it.

>>18658233
actually, lowercase posters are the masterrace because we're not NEETS and don't have time to waste on capitalizing letters for retards on a weeb imageboard

dont derail further im waiting for them to actually try or just tire out from rolling in their shit

heres your spoonfeed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhLMfvVO0Cs

>>18658264
英語で大字を使うこと。
英語の文法すら蔑ろにする者は日本語が出来ぬ。

>>18658264
>we're not NEETS and don't have time to waste on capitalizing letters for retards on a weeb imageboard
>NEETS

are you sure you aren't just dumb?

ok pant shitters its time to get with the program
nihongolandに連れて行くぜ

put 組織立つ on your fuckin worthless flashcards so you can get through today but be fucked tomorrow

Should i be viewing new cards in core while mining

>>18658429
Focus on one thing.

>>18658406
Mind blown.

>>18656917
Do people love to waste money por what

>>18658406
How many more years do you plan to play the court jester of these threads? Your dedication is while pathetic, impressive in how you can keep such an banal act going for so long.

Just how much do you hate yourself to do this? Are you also the person who pretends to be a little Japanese girl or is there someone else in this thread equally as sad as you? What keeps you from deepthroating a shotgun?

>>18656917
>did some translation projects for some 4komas and game content,
how can redditers ignore this kind of shit?
it blows my mind

>>18658565
What do you mean?

>>18658564
/djt/ is one of the funnest tabs in my browser i like working with disabled children

>>18655057
>>18655057
I'm interested in hearing about digital copies, too. Are the resolutions shit? I'm sure they wouldn't want to give like, 1080p HD scans of manga since that'd be so easy to pirate, but at the same time if I'm paying money for a product I want it to be at the very least legible.

>>18658272
>>18658406
>>18658591
Aw man it's been a while. I was actually starting to miss you.

>>18656917
Do mock/practice tests exists?

>>18658668
>1080p scans
Even slanty eyed jews aren't this cheap. They're almost always garbage nonetheless.

>>18658743
Give "JLPT example questions" a quick goog, my man.

>>18658155
Anyone?

Dropped in to Marine's channel the other night to see what it is he does for 3 hours every day. Half of his time he spends talking about study methods and the other half he spends picking sentences he hears from multiple fucking choice answers. The options aren't even distinct; there's no confusing what he heard and yet he still does it for practice. Wew.

Anyone know if it's possible to convert notes/highlights I've made inside the Kindle PC app into an Anki deck?

Trying to google this is a right pain as everyone assumes you're using an actual Kindle device

>>18659105
Can you export those notes into a formatted text file?

>when you read over 100kb of text in a day
Feels fulfilling man.

>>18659431
how the fuck

>>18659431
Isn't the average reading speed 50KB/hour?

>>18659037
Jesus Christ... He will literally never learn

>>18659471
That's probably less than 150 pages, anon.

When a person is described with 楽しい as in simply 楽しい人, what's the implication?

I guess it's kinda up to interpretation and depends on context, but seems to me as just an all around fun person, right?

>>18659497
delightful and pleasant and like the vibe flows well when youre together and of course you have fun together

>>18659497
It means enjoyable in a literal sense. Their vagina is the perfect size and softness to provide maximum enjoyment.

>>18659525
the fuck do u know bout that

>>18659525
A man was described as such, so you're right I guess unless I haven't gotten to the part where he has a vagina
>>18659517
Oh okay guess that's a bit more involved than what I thought, thanks

>>18659037
Didnt matt teach him how to study?

>>18659575
Yes but nukemarine is a WORKING ADULT™, so he can't study properly.

>Went to NicoNico
>wrote " つもくゐいどえぶりで " in about a dozen streams
>their text-to-speech makes it say exactly as that sounds
>"HUH?" "NANDE? NANDE?" "WAKARIMASEN"

lol Nips are so naive

>>18659637
>つもくゐいどえぶりで
fuck, you actually made me check with Google's text-to-speech.

I wonder how aware the nihongologers are of english memes.

>>18659637
tsumokuiidoeburide?

>>18657578
dog is red, and big.

>>18659656

>>18659637
Would they understand it better if you add よんひゃくにじゅう, I wonder.

Is there a 'sex number' like 69 in Japanese?

>>18659681
I would say 801 would suit your tastes.

is it possible to learn japanese if you're not a paedophile?

>>18659702
Nope

>>18659702
If you learned when you were small, when pedophilia is still acceptable because the pedophile is a kid themselves.

>>18659702
I'm afraid not. Scientists baffled

>>18659539
Men have something called a "mens' vagina." It's located in the same spot as the anus.

「朝型なんだ。むしろ夜の方が弱い」

「桜庭は夜が弱い……と」

「他意があるように聞こえるな」

「ないないない」

色っぽいネタへの反応はいいな。

can someone please explain to me what the hell the last sentence means because i think im getting it completely wrong, or is he saying her response will make sexy joke material

>>18659663
I wonder how Snoop Dogg feels about that meme, considering he wasn't even the one who said that line.

Is 何それ rude or crude or completely normal? Why do /a/utists meme this so hard, was it just because of her delivery?

>>18659872
I think the second line may have a second meaning of she's being bad in bed.
And the last line says that she reacted to (understood) the dirty joke.

>>18659872
why dont you try to work it out here in the thread or otherwise tell me why you think you should even be attempting to read this at all

>>18659897
yeah I asked somewhere else and they explained it, when I first read it i didn't even think of him making a joke about how she's weak at night/in bed

Has anyone messed around with duolingo's Japanese lessons?
They have a segment where you're given words/particles/conjunctions in random order (with some fakes) and you have to tap them in the correct order.

I thought it was a decent/fun way to drill grammar and sentence construction, but it's such a small segment of their studying and they don't have a 'just this type of study' option so,

I was wondering if you guys knew if there are any other programs that are like that?

>さもなくば、大昔の精神分析医がやっていたような、あまりに恣意的に過ぎる独断かのどちらかだ。

What is the か after 独断 doing there?

so is mattvsjapane good at japanese?

>>18659969
I heard LingoDeer is also good and similar.

Also, you will never learn Japanese from either of these apps

I fucking hate this game. I made it to stage 5 boss with 5 fucking lives and lost them all because of their retarded fucking patterns. I'm literally in tears right now. Fuck HSiFS and fuck touhou

>>18659996
And I posted in the wrong thread god fucking dammit

>>18659996
Wrong thread. Also, just use summer/fall and spam releases.

>>18659971
its chilling there wondering if you were even able to read the beginning of the thought in the first place

>>18660031
You're boring.

>>18660049
then get interesting

>>18659971
ことばはぜんぶわかるけど

ぶんしょうが

なにをいっているのかはわからなかったよ

I hear the jap pod 101 on yomi read
化学記号
as かがくきこう instead of きごう as would be normal 記号
which is right?

>>18660241
きごうだよ

化学記号がなんなのかわかんないけど

>>18660257
ありがとう

>>18659971
Post the previous sentence.

>>18660338
>心理テストの類は好きではないが、たいていは答えの見え透いた単純なものばかり。

That's it. A girl told the guy to do one of those "psychology quizzes" adn the guy starts thinking about their nature and other stuff.

>>18660362
It's saying the 答え are either 見え透いた単純なもの or あまりに恣意的に過ぎる独断.

>>18660362
ふろいとさんかな

ふろいとさんゆうめい？

>>18658082
No, you have to fantranslate manga without knowing Japanese for that

Does anyone know what the penultimate character in this image is? I can't figure it out.

>>18660654
さ
Get used to that font, it's everywhere

>>18659637
You're supposed to write it like すもーくうぃーどえぶりーでい. Or better yet, use katakana.

Has anyone watched Nukemarine pay tutors to sit there and watch him read? Why does he keep changing his voice and speaking like a girl?

I thought he was trying to learn Japanese not learn how to act.

>>18660705
no joke it's legit easiest to remember how to say things correctly if you speak the way you hear the most

>>18660654
>Katakana name followed by Xん

Gee I wonder what X could be...

>>18660728
He's N4 after 10 years. Though he stopped studying for a while.

>>18660750
i know

>>18660728
I don't think my voice can hit those high of notes for the shit I watch

>>18660756
i'm sure you could do it after ten years of practice if you tried

>>18660766
i don't think that's how vocal cords work

>>18660405
Thanks! I was looking for the other か and couldn't find it, so it got me stumped.

>>18660781
apparently nukemarine's work like that

>>18660791
Does he really speak like an anime girl in his tutor videos?
I kind of want to see that, can't be assed to scroll through and look for it though

i wish i was a brainlet so i enjoyed anime and had more media to learn from

>>18660883
Yeah, whatever, go watch black mirror or whatever you normies watch nowadays.

>>18660883
Just watch American shows and read Americans books that have been translated

>>18660705
wait what
give a link to him talking like a girl

>>18660747
く
は
た
ち

あたしのこえをきけ

おなかすいた

>>18661175
ミルフィーユはどう

>>18661175
知ったこっちゃねえ

What is a good website to practice with native speakers?

>>18661225
5ch.net

>>18661225
>production

What is going on with the end of this sentence?
肉食動物は肉食動物を食べたがらないのですか?
>食べたがらない
>がらない
>がる
...and I think I just answered my own question.
But my understanding is still shit -- something about carnivores being reluctant to eat other carnivores. I guess I can't tell how の is being used here... I'll just 'read more' but it would be cool if someone could point me in the right direction.

>>18661213
あのんのいうミルフィーユと

にほんでいうミルフィーユは

ミルフィーユがおなじですか？

>>18661216
おはようおにいちゃん

>>18661312
もうすぐ寝る時間だ
おはようもクソもあるかよ

>>18661312
>ミルフィーユがおなじですか？
ミルフィーユは英語じゃないよ
多分フランス語

お兄ちゃん、ハッテン場に行きたい！
私はゲイです

Is it possible to play a persona game in japanese on my computer? Consoles make me want to claw my eyes out.

>>18661425
What's stopping you from emulating Persona 1-4?

>>18661431
They are region locked.

>>18661293
のです is like asking for an explanation, think of it as emphazising the か, really.
Your translation seems to be on point.

>>18661453
>emulating
>region locked

>>18661453
download a japanese bios

>>18661293
If の is bothering you, try reading up on の. Tae Kim explains the actual grammatical function iirc (の working as a noun stand-in to nominalize a whole phrase)
That probably won't help you form a full understanding of it right now, but the only way that will happen anyway is through taking in lots of Japanese

For now you can think of the difference between questions that use の and questions that don't

Like:
泣いてる？ vs 泣いてるの？
At first glance these look like they are looking for the same answer, but the tone is completely different. The first one is simply asking "Are you crying?" in a curious/neutral tone, and it means the speaker is actually seeking that information because they don't know it. The second one is like a more aggressive "You're crying?" not necessarily asked because the speaker doesn't have any clue about the answer, but more with the motive of prying the answer out and drawing attention to it, possibly because that answer is based on an explanation they want to see. So saying 泣いてるの to someone who's crying is basically calling them out on being a little bitch, but saying 泣いてる is just asking if they're crying or not.

Another example of the tone change:
何がいい？ - Asking the listener to point out what's いい because they don't know.
何がいいの？ - What's いい about this? [All of this looks like it's not いい to me.]

の kind of implies the speaker already has their own idea of what the case could be, and they are asking because they're surprised that it's turning out to be different (or that the listener thinks it's different). の is usually around when you see words like 本当に and マジで in yes/no questions

Your example is similar. The speaker is asking "Carnivores don't have a desire to eat other carnivores?" in a tone implying the person they're talking to, or someone else, or the general situation, is somehow directly or indirectly asserting that yes, carnivores don't want to eat carnivores. It suggests they (the speaker) thought it would make more sense if carnivores did want to eat other carnivores.

>>18661481
It's probably better to think of the か as emphasizing the question aspect, since か can pretty much always be omitted (and often is) but の is pretty crucial to the intent of the question

>>18661838
Wow, an actual explanation, in /djt/. Did not expect this.

>>18661838
This is a really good explanation on の, better than all i've read, in fact.
Thanks for clarifying.

>>18661838
Huh, I never knew it was that intense. I thought it was more curious, but it sounds more like "you got some 'splaining to do."

>>18662003
Tae Kim gave this explanation, so I have the same thought as yours.

食べる？
Eating?
Questioning if eating.
食べるの？
The thing of eating?
Questioning the act of eating itself.

Remember の creates a noun-phrase.

Does this sound about right?

>>18662052
食べるの？ の、「の」が、名詞を作っている、というのは少し変な感じがする。

食べる？、は、実際に食べることを想定しているときに言う。「(お菓子を友人に見せながら)このお菓子、食べる？」
食べるの？は、実際に食べるとは思っていないときなど に言う。「まだ食べるの？太るよ。」「納豆を食べるの？(私は、納豆を食べるのは無理だ。/あなたは、納豆が苦手だと思っていたのに、意外だ。)」

Not sure about やる in the last sentence
>Hm? I'm talking to my friends on LINE so you can fuck me as you like, just don't forget the rubber
>old man is gross, so I'll be honest
Would that be right?

I tried making cards with voiced example sentences on the back from anime but I wonder if I can make the process more efficient.

What does DJT think?

>>>/wsg/2158367

>>18662339
I think it would be good if you stopped masturbating to drawn porn and actually started learning japanese

Is there some database out there that lists and explains every way anime/manga characters end a sentence? These are frustrating the hell out of me and are by far the part that is making me hate reading, because I don't know what they mean and can't look them up because of the abundance of random 小さいつ and random ー between letters
I don't even know if these are parts of real words like if they actually have them, or if its just written that way for emphasis on random sounds for the character's personal mannerism like how some english comic might end a sentence with "d-damn this suuuuucks" where damn and sucks are not actually written that way but those mis-spellings are there for a stutter and drawn out sounds for emphasis.

Please send help friends, I want to read manga but I don't get these at all. They make me sad.

>>18662419
Not quite a database, but dic.nicovideo.jp/a/語尾の一覧 is an article that covers basically all the common cases and then a few less common ones. I encourage everyone to check it out.

〜とミサカは〜ます remains superior even after all these years.

>>18662396
It would be good if you stopped being a cheeky cunt but alas, we can't have everything we want

>>18662474
He has a point.

>>18662469
railgun was ten years ago

>>18662050
Huh, that explanation is kind of weird without context. Without any Japanese to go along with 遅くない？ and 遅いんじゃない？ it's hard to tell what he's trying to say about it. I can think of cases where "isn't it late?" would be fine as a casual 遅くね？
Also he didn't address that there's other ways to put it that use の
Like in the context of asking about the current time, all of the following exist.

Let's say someone opens with 夜の10時って、and follow up with one of these:

遅い？ (Asking if it's late. They are actually seeking to find out if 10 pm is late or not, because they don't know)
遅いの？ (It's late? They didn't think it was late.)
遅くない? (Isn't it late? They are confirming that it's late.)
遅くないの？ (They thought it was late, are surprised that something is suggesting it isn't. ない would be emphasized)
遅いんじゃない？ (Actively suggesting to the listener that 10 pm is late, not so much a question at this point)
遅いんじゃないの？ (Suggesting it's late and are surprised listener would think otherwise. Probably angry someone is coming home at 10 pm)

TK seems to be saying the same thing though, that it seeks explanation. How come you can't talk with me right now? is definitely a question that would end with の if you asked it in Japanese.

>>18662469
That does seem like a nice resource thanks, I have bookmarked it. Are these common cases to common anime or are these more or less specific to the single character/series that is listed by the character? The particular manga I am reading atm doesn't seem to show the one I was hung up on earlier on that article and I couldn't find it with a bit of searching either.

>>18662487
I'm exposing myself to compelling i+1 content

>>18662546
What are you hung up on?

>>18661354
ふらんす

ふらんすぱんたべたい

So there’s a George vs Matt youtube drama. You can watch it on Nukemarine’s channel.

>>18662798
I hope that's a joke.

>>18662396
Oh come on, he's doing the 'read more' advice and you're still berating him? What, are you now going to dictate what people should read as well?

>>18662798
>youtube drama
I'd rather watch Japanese gyaru screeching than watching this

>埃をかぶる
古いみたい?

>>18662626
Any method anime/manga characters end a sentence that is not です, だ, ます, etc. Aka anything that isn't covered in TK

As soon as I turn to a new page and see some character's speech bubble ending with some horrifying concoction of kana and ー I just want to tear the page out before I even get to it because I don't have a way of translating, understanding, or learning it

>>18662944
>Aka anything that isn't covered in TK
Have you tried the Manga Guide to Japanese or something like that? They have plenty on sentence endings.

>>18662944
>As soon as I turn to a new page and see some character's speech bubble ending with some horrifying concoction of kana
Post the page when that occurs and someone will help you work through your lack of understanding. That's what these threads are for.

>>18662960
>someone will help you work through your lack of understanding
And some other someone (some other one?) will sneer at him.

>>18662944
All I can think of is wacky sounding ones like やんす or like イカ and ゲソ as in ika musume, but I feel like those are pretty obvious so I'm having trouble understanding what you're talking about. Are those what you're talking about? Just wacky gobi that specific characters use as a cartoony quirk?

The fact you picked out small っ and ー specifically is confusing me because I can't think of any examples.

>>18656917
>I even got a sponsored trip to Japan last month for my translation work.
how did you manage that if I may ask

>>18662958
No I haven't. Is that somewhere in the OP if I dig around?

>>18662960
Yeah and that's been helpful for sure. But I love reading on my tablet before bed (its where I do most of my reading) and the process of getting something from there posted to here is pretty arduous away from my desktop

>>18662980
I don't really know what to call them if its not that. I just noticed a pattern that they almost always come at the end of a sentence/panel. I just assume they are anime/manga character things because whenever I have been texting with japanese people they don't seem to ever end sentences like that.
But the particular example that spurred my comment was actually when I was browsing the thread and saw >>18662339
>やるかっつーの

>>18663030
>Is that somewhere in the OP if I dig around?
It's called Japanese the Manga Way.

>>18662980
>でヤンス
>でござる
>でアリンス
>ざんす

>円環の理
circular reasoning?

>>18663030
Written Japanese is imitating spoken Japanese which is often heavily slurred. In my experience you can look that stuff up fine, there's a million results on google. I'm pretty sure that's how I got clued in on most of it in the first place.
っつーの is a slurred っていうの and it's a super colloquial way to push something you're saying at the other person.

It's not a new sentence ending, you just need to listen to a lot more casual Japanese. Watch out for 方言 though

Also I would be wary of learning the Japanese that Japanese people use with you as a standard for all "real" Japanese. There are a lot of situations a gaijin won't see if they are texting to a japanese person who is well aware that their partner is a gaijin that won't understand certain things. They will almost certainly avoid dialects.
Dig around the Japanese side of the web and you'll find tons of people using colloquial language they wouldn't use in a "kaiwa time with gaijin" setting

>>18662970
Part of posting on 4chan is overcoming the fear of being shitposted at. If your fear of being shitposted at outweighs your hope of getting a real reply you won't be posting much of anything at all no matter where you go.

>>18663089
Rule number two after "read more" is "use google" buddy

>>18663092
>っつーの is a slurred っていうの
Fuck

Where do I put this so I remember it? I have to remember this.

>>18663116
If you really want to remember っつーの = っていうの, why not make an Anki card for it.
Front:
>っつーの (slurred)
Read
>っていうの

>>18663139
>Read
*Rear:
lol

>>18663116
Remember つー as ていう
I vaguely remember TK talking about this specific one, actually
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/slang
It's just a matter of not having to move your tongue as much to say it, just natural slurring

Same way sometimes verbs ending in ～てた kind of morph into ～つた when people talk fast

>>18663092
Thanks. But realistically how would someone like me go about figuring that kind of stuff out while reading? I've seen plenty that were probably similarly slurred words

>"恐れと怖れを従えて!"
"Potato Potato"?

>>18663092
>っつーの is a slurred っていうの
so やるかっつの becomes やるかって言うの, yeah? Which in itself is やるかというの?

So in the panel posted >>18662339, the second panel becomes 「おっさんキモすぎるし, 真面目にやるかというの」?

Not that anon, but I'm still stuck on the 真面目にやるかというの. "Doing it so seriously like that?" Still so bad at these, haha.

>>18663186
Googling "かっつーの"の意味 lead me to a hinative.com page where someone ask what it meant, and they say pic related.

>>18663189
Fear follows fear, no?

>>18663186
If you hit a wall, try google, try here, etc
Reading is only a representation of spoken Japanese, so it would help if you took in more spoken Japanese regularly.

>>18663196
Yeah, the actual meaning is what the hinative guy is saying. It's a way of pushing what you're saying at the other person. You can interchange with つってんの and つってんだよ and whatever, the meaning is the same

Colloquial speech and dialect kind of ends up with its own usage, so it's hard to "expand" it into non-slang in a formulaic way. The best you can do is trace it back

>>18663196
If you literally translate と言っているの it means "is what I am saying", right?

>>18663263
Yeah. The speaker is doing the 言う

how do you anons force yourselves to read?
I can only do 1-2 pages before my head hurts and its too hard and I close it

>>18663291

Why would I need to force myself to do the very thing I started studying the language for in the first place?

>>18663291
I do as much of 1 page a day for a week, then 1 page a day for a week, then 2 pages a day for a week. On and on until finally I finished that novel where a brother fucks his brocon imouto.

>>18663241
>>18663266
The guy who posted the image here, so does it actually mean "the old man is gross (because he is) doing it seriously like that"?

>>18663116
『クロマティ高校』をがんばって一冊
読み切れれば、だいたいの言い回しは分かるようになる

>>18663352
Okay, I'll read it!
>読み切れれば
one れ too many?

>>18663384
れは

ふたつー

かたたたき

>>18663384
「読み切ることができたなら」のつもりで書いたけれど、
「読み切れば」でも意味は大体いっしょだね

アンパン食べたい

>>18663554
ノパンたべたい

I can't learn Japanese.

>>18663639

Sucks to hear it, but at least now you can spend your time on something else.

>>18663639
I believe you.

What does /djt/ do while reading as an illiterate newbie?
Spend hours researching and looking up every line of text and weird grammatical interaction until you fully understand the text?
Or just "kind of understand the gist of it" and leave it at that? The former seems best for actually learning and absorbing the language, but the latter seems to be the only way to maintain sanity.

>>18663681
>Spend hours researching and looking up every line of text and weird grammatical interaction until you fully understand the text?
>Or just "kind of understand the gist of it"
The former. I once tried the latter, and it gets you into too much trouble later on in the story, because you've carried a misconception the whole way.

>>18663681

The truth is in the middle, looking up literally every single thing is inefficient but half-assing isn't a good way to learn. I recommend putting extra effort in learning the grammar points you don't understand first and foremost because while you'll be encountering all kinds of new words for a very long time, grammar will be both critical and largely the same no matter the subject.

>>18663681
When I read my first VN I read it parallel to a translation. I spent maybe a minute or two at max trying to figure out something, then I just read the English version. The advantage was that I never lost the context thanks to the translation, so I had a reasonable chance to understand every line.

>>18663804
>When I read my first VN I read it parallel to a translation
Nekopara had this in the game itself, I played the game with Japanese text for some time, then played the game with both Japanese and English text to see if I got the story right.

Total failure 80% of the time.

I'd personally recommend reading something you're already familiar with to begin with, it lets you focus on the Japanese, without having to worry that you're going to completely misunderstand something that will just make things more confusing later on, without having to agonize over every tiny little thing.

>>18663821
Yeah, that's how it is when you're a beginner.
But hey, every failure is an opportunity to learn something new. It also makes you realize how much your brain wants to connect the dots and even when you got it completely wrong it still kinda makes sense. This is why I never signed up to the "learn from feel" people.

>>18659895
It's just words they recognize as being said a lot.

Why listening practice is important: 4 years of Japanese studying and literally thousands of books read, but I just now realized that 日 is read as か in situations such as ８月１１日.

>>18663858
はちがつじゅういちにち

>>18663858
Not typically.

>>18663848
this is also why you never learned japanese

bang bang

まあ刀剣は乙女の華だから仕方がない。
I can guess the meaning but is 乙女の華 an idiom? Never saw it before and can't find it on weblio.

DJT you've been called out!

https://youtu.be/UHAa0mFOsYM?t=3m16s

>>18663681
If you struggle with grammar you must study with books or something. By n2-n1 grammar level you will have been discerning similar patterns.

>>18663974
>乙女の華
は、idiomではないと思う。あまり普通の言葉づかいではない。
これかなあ？↓

「華」
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/178127/meaning/m0u/
>９ (ア)華やかできらびやかなもの。「社交界の―」

>>18663974
たぶん、
華はきれいなもので、おんなのこは華がすきだから、おんなのこにとっての、あこがれ、といういみだとおもう。

>>18664008
But everyone here already knows Core is shit.

>>18664008
>he actually watches these videos or is actually that faggot making them
Either way, fuck off

>>18664167
Why should I fuck off? Because you happen to disagree with me?

>>18664167
how many hours have you wasted doing the core deck?

>>18664202
proly because youre posting gay idiot videos of a guy trying to make money offa retards like you lot lmao

>>18664202
Because you are here just to shitpost and/or advertise that youtube

>>18664208
I went through 2k in around 20 hours, what does that have to do with anything? Should I report you for shitposting too?

Matt, a casual reminder that GR11 is enforced on all boards.
>Advertising (all forms) is not welcome

casual reminder that backseat modding is gay and if youre gonna do it at least do it in nihongo

>>18664218
Telling people you'll gonna report them is against the rules of 4chan, m8. Have you even read them?

I'm gonna do the first 500 of core, then I'll do 500 words from mining. I'll report back with findings

>>18664277
I didn't say I reported anyone. I just asked if I should report the shitposter

New to reading here. How am I supposed to read when I have to stop and look up a word or twelve every sentence. It feels like I'm doing it wrong.

>>18664215
>proly because youre posting gay idiot videos of a guy trying to make money offa retards like you lot lmao
What makes the video (singular) that I've posted "gay" and "idiot"? And what does the financial aspect of it have to do with learning Japanese? I I haven't paid him a dime nor had I planned to do so in the future.

>>18664218
>Because you are here just to shitpost and/or advertise that youtube
Why do you think I want to advertise anyone, because I merely linked to their video? And why did you conclude that I'm here exclusively to shitpost if you don't know my post history?

Matt, fuck off.

>>18664294
How do you expect to do it 'right' without knowing the vocab? Yes, that's the way to do it.

When I was learning English I decided to read a book in English - on the first few pages I marked all the words I didn't know. It was all red. Then I picked up some more English along the way and came back to the book and I understood it all.

>>18664294
you are but start small and with things with multiple avenues of input such as a narrated ehon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrqO4eSqRC4

pictures and the way someone says something helps you understand new words too!

>>18664299
youtu.be/nPYdQGkgrN4#t=69 time stamped at the sex number lol

>>18664294
Just keep going through the sentences looking for

1) a sentence you understand.
2) a sentence you *almost* understand

Anything else is a waste of time. Trying to learn from any sentence besides type 2 here is inefficient

>>18664299
Posting about that guy or his videos equals to shitposting here and you clearly know it which is why you are posting it

>>18664337
The links in the OP are a bigger shitpost than any of Matt's videos

>>18664337
Nothing in the rules of the board it says so, so you are making stuff up, pal. Be less emotional, because if you're so tetchy all the time - due to some heartstroke or something - you won't live long enough to enjoy your fluency in Japanese.

>>18664350
There's a rule about post quality

>>18664353
and that rule is why this thread is on this board

>>18664350
>>18664344
Advertising is against the rules, tardo.
You need to go back.

>let's explain simple concepts in the most confusing and convoluted way possible
Thanks DoJG.

>>18664452
Can't really blame a technical dictionary for your own obtuseness, anon.

>>18664452
>mfw

Does the マンガワン app limit content based on location? I want to read the raws for 秘密のレプタイルズ and they should be in the app, but i can't find them anywhere.

>>18664452
日本語を学ぶ前英語を勉強したほうがいいかも。

>>18664452
>Be anon
>Speak English fluently
>Never studied English grammar books
>Decide to learn Japanese
>Decide to use Japanese grammar books

I just don't understand...

>>18664512
Neither do I, Matt. Neither do I.

>>18664512
dont worry if you follow the guide youll soon be on the course to epic self-owns like this >>18664482

DoJG is obtuse. Don't pretend it's not.

曰本語

>>18664328
>oh good a childrens book this shouldn't be too bad
>oh neat I could actually read/understand the first page maybe this won't be so bad...
>get stuck on the second page with a word おっちょっこちょい
>not in the dictionary because this is a japanese dictionary and they only put words in it if they aren't in something you're trying to read
>partial results suggest it could include any of "suddenly", "child", "man/husband", "oops"
>google tells me it maybe means either "dirty person" or "scatterbrain" and "careless person"
>3 different results from 3 different sources, any one of which could be made up or wrong or correct and I'd never know
>none of the dictionary partial results or the google results really seem to fit the context of the reading anyways so it doesn't even matter
tfw 2k into core and have been through tae kim's guide 3 times and I still can't read past the second page of a fucking children's book. Fuck reading so much.

you can't learn japanese if you don't read or listen a lot

>>18664569
sorry i dont know what youre talking about because my helpful post about japanese was deleted

>>18664569
ok anyway shes expressing her shock that shes dead dude because she got run the fuck over by ludacris in his classic track "move bitch" and its attributed to the fact that she lived her entire life being bad at not doing stupid shit that makes stupid shit happen to her

>>18664623

>>18663858
>and literally thousands of books read
So you haven't encountered words like 二日酔い and 三日月? Why do you lie?

>>18663858
There are 1460 days in 4 years, which means you've been reading at least 1.4 books a day to reach 2000 books. Very sugoi.

>>18664569
>this is a japanese dictionary and they only put words in it if they aren't in something you're trying to read
iktf

>>18664569

>>18663858
>but I just now realized that 日 is read as か in situations such as ８月１１日
???

>>18663858
wow, turns out core is superior. you would have known this on the second day of studying!

>始末すんのかよ
The speaker is responding to a guy who said he would kill the speaker.
Does this mean something like
¿Do you (honestly) think you can/will kill me?

>>18664961
no dude try again

>>18664972
(you)

>>18664961
it's time to clean things up, huh
shimatsu suru no no ka yo

>>18665056
I don't think that's what it means. He's responding to a threat.

>>18665056
not this either try again

>>18665061
i'd deffo clean your face up if you ever threatened me

>>18665074
id clean your face up because you prolly dont do it yourself

>>18665074
>>18665067
>>18665079
(you)

Really simple thing probably, but somehow can't find anything on the translation of
おうおう。
Based on the context it seems like a sigh of disappointment, something like "oh well".
Is that right?

>>18665175
uhhh senpai

おうno

>>18665198
I mean, obviously I found those, but I wasn't sure if the word works by itself the same way.

For that matter, 往々and 汪々 use the same kana too.

you cant never practice lissning cause nothing can be input at that level

>>18656917
Nice copypasta bro. Now get back to plebbit.

>>18656917
This is a copypasta from reddit.

So Matt went after Core users in his latest video.

https://youtu.be/UHAa0mFOsYM?t=171

report and ignore

>>18665667
Everyone already knows core is trash designed for people that are afraid of reading but want a sense of measurable progress to pretend like they're learning Japanese

>>18665667
Fuck off, Matt

>>18665309
What the fuck am I reading?

>>18664452
>reading about grammar past tae kim
got what you deserved, textbook drone.

>>18663291
>force
There's your problem. You should be reading something you enjoy so there's no need to force yourself to read it.

>>18665667
He implied that people believed the Earth was flat (or that people didn't believe Earth was round) few hundred years ago, and that's like the biggest pet peeve I didn't realize I ever have.

I hate the video already

>>18665728
People think the Earth is flat TODAY

>>18665737
Yeah, that's TODAY's. Flat Earth theory as a global beliefs wasn't a centuries-old beliefs.

Non-flat earths had been the theory since ancient times.

>>18665749
>Flat Earth theory as a global beliefs wasn't a centuries-old beliefs.

Citation needed

>>18665775
People have known that the Earth was round for multiple thousands of years. Greeks scholars measured it to a reasonable degree of accuracy.

>>18665797
A scientist theorizing is not the same as a "global belief", fucking moron. Not only is that not a source it doesn't even address the issue

>>18665808
There was no such thing as "global belief" back then.

there is global belief that わたしはゲイ

>>18665808
They weren't theorizing. They knew. Factually. Based on evidence. And the idea was shared by any scholars that it traveled to. Not even the catholic church believed the Earth was flat, that's a myth perpetuated by bad/wrong elementary school teaching material about Columbus (who, by the way, just thought the world was way smaller than it was, because he was deliberately misinterpreting the experiments and math that measured its size).

>>18665813
>>18665808
>>18665797
>>18665775
>>18665749
>>18665737
>>>/x/
This is all too spooky for this comfy thread of trying to understand a language

>>18659702
>好
>woman + child = little girl = likeable/fond
No.

>>18665824
agreed dude lets put on our dick pants and chill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJTT4xOi9GU

>>18665822
>They knew

They didn't. Their experiments could have been explained by a flat Earth with a near sun. Also still haven't provided a citation for your original claim. Remember, Matt was talking about the intuition of the masses, not scientists that do experiments

>>18665813
This anon thinks there is >>18665749

>>18665860
>Their experiments could have been explained by a flat Earth with a near sun.
No, because then it would depend on where you did it.

>>18665860
>Also still haven't provided a citation for your original claim. Remember, Matt was talking about the intuition of the masses
you're the one that needs to post that citation, matt

When is 等 read など and when とう?
(bottom right panel)

>>18665836
You get it wrong
>woman + child = The woman "likes" the child = /ss/

>>18665896
the child could be a female, though
/ll/

>>18665884
などと等の違い into google

>>18665868
No it wouldn't.

>>18665873
For what retard? You're the one that made a claim here >>18665749

>>18665909
No, that's not me. Also, Matt, aka yourself, is the one that made the controversial claim, the burden of proof is on you.

>>18665909
>No it wouldn't.
Yes it would. Don't you know basic trig?

whether the earth is round or the earth is flat the bottom is where your japanese level is at

>>18665922
Yes I do retard, and the math works out if the sun is very close to the Earth

>>18665918
>The flat Earth model is an archaic conception of Earth's shape as a plane or disk

There, a citation from wiki now fuck off

>>18665955
archaic does not mean a few hundred years ago

>>18665923
Link to your soundcloud?

>>18665955
>Yes I do retard, and the math works out if the sun is very close to the Earth
Apparently you don't, because the math doesn't work out. They knew where the sun was at different times and what distances there were between different points on the planet. It is not difficult to figure out distances using astronomy and the sun, and they knew how.

I want the flat earthers out of my DJT thread.

>>18665973
You did it!

やちゃったね

>>18665967

you realize that stops working when the ground becomes parallel with the sun's rays, right

it becomes wildly inconsistent with distance on the surface, which you mean measure using astrology

>>18666119
astronomy

>>18666119
asstrology

Character responds to an invitation with
べつにあたしとしてはそれもありかなーって
思うんだけどいまは仕事の契約があるからね。
What does the first part mean? Seems to be something along the lines of I've got no problems with that, but I don't understand how それもありかなー fits into it.

What the fuck is even happening in this garbage thread anymore

>>18666208
a whole buncha 雑魚s bein themselves

What the fuck is セミ?

>>18666256
Cicada

>>18666256
>can't use a fucking dictionary
Never going to make it anon. Its a cicada by the way.

>>18666256
It means "half" in latin