/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Working on EoSD LNN, fav side game is STB and worst shot types are Yuuka who's been absolute garb in both games she's in (enlighten me if i'm wrong about PoFV tho)

>>18616057
>Tell us what you're working on right now
Getting a good score in PCB Normal with MarisaA

>what's your favorite side-game
ISC I guess, but I don't really like the side games

>who has the worst shot types?
In the new games usually Marisa, except for HSiFS. In the older games (as in the first few Windows games) Magic Missile Marisa is usually my favorite shot type. I never liked Illusion Laser though.

>>18616057
Trying to improve consistency at EoSD Extra so I can ExNB it. I don't really have a favorite side game but I enjoyed playing the photo games the most. For shot types, if we're just generalizing characters then Marisa probably gets the most mediocre ones.

Remind me when did these threads stop linking the previous ones and why

>who has the worst shot types
Marisa has no good shottypes to her name besides the busted ones

>>18616946
Oh, shit. Sorry, I forgot completely. I won't do that fuck up again anon.

Posting my progress again as a posting test. Other boards are dead.

>>18616946
>Marisa has no good shottypes to her name besides the busted ones


Marisa has a few cute good-but-not-broken ones. Up to MoF all her shots were pretty good (Alice brought her down though). Also she has at least one good-but-not-broken shot in MoF, SA, TD, and HSiFS still. The hopelessness mostly comes from LoLK since she didn't have a good-but-not-broken shot in DDC either and nobody played TD anymore. But she redeemed herself a little in HSiFS so it's ok.

Also she's mad strong in the fighters so she got that going for her.

>>18616946
does Marisa Winter count as busted? I dont think so, its just ridiculously good and probably one of the best shots ever.

>>18616946
>Marisa has no good shottypes to her name besides the busted ones
EoSD Marisa B is great for 1CCs and the best shot for the stage 4 books, Marisa A shreds through the extra stage.
Both PCB Marisas are really good, especially A if you want to 1cc you can spam borders at will, and Marisa B gets a really easy Yuyuko cause her already pretty strong laser pierces through the fan on top of damaging the boss.
MoF Marisa C is extremely strong if you can deal with the hitbox, her stages are simple and she deals insane amounts of damage.
SA Marisa A is really good for 1CCs cause she gets an easy satori and can bomb spam without any issue by popping a doll on the boss for a ton of shotgun damage on top of being able to carry 8 and building up power faster, while SA MariB makes stage routing an absolute joke.
TD Marisa is extremely strong for 1ccs if you know what you're doing, you can farm a ton of trance with her bomb and shotgun.
HSiFS Marisa is overall really good, has very strong boss damage traded for some harder stage routing. There's a reason the only spring LNNN was done with Marisa, since she was the only one that could make up for the uselessness of the suboptions.

None of these feel that broken (MoF/DDC MariB though...) or garbage and are pretty viable options for the most part when it comes to clearing a game, hell even NBing it. Not the absolute best shots but far from unusably bad.

marisa has just never been the clear best shot, besides HSIFS / LLS / maybe EOSD.

The "ZUN hates Marisa" reputation primarily comes from games like MOF (gigantic hitbox), SA (far worse than Reimu), UFO (awful), LOLK (awful). And the incomprehensible decisions like Marisa A in DDC.

>>18617168
>Not the absolute best shots
That's the problem, she's usually a worse choice. Even when she gets an amazing shot (like MOF Marisa C), she's held back by ZUN's retardation (fuckhuge hitbox).

>>18617185
She also scores highest in MoF and UFO (higher potential than Sanae B who currently holds overall WR). She's also not completely awful in UFO, though you kinda have to use a glitch if you want to get more damage out of Marisa A (slightly higher output than Reimu A) and the glowshit options can get pretty bad.

>>18617200
isn't her hitbox the same as everyone else, except for Reimu?

>>18617200
I've used her since I started playing and because of that she's much easier to use than Reimu for me even if Reimu ends up being the better shot type objectively, and also the shot I have the most fun playing. I do agree that the thiccbox is horrible design though, holds me back from playing MoF and SA quite a bit (UFO feels a bit more tolerable though for some reason)

>>18617230
Depends on the games, UFO she's 3.5px compared to reimu's 2.0 and sanae's 3.0 (MoF and SA also have those sizes), she was brought down to 3.0 in later games like everyone though. Hitboxes are the same in EoSD and idk about PCB/IN

>>18617253
That explains a lot, actually. Also, I didn't actually know the exact hitbox sizes before and no one seemed to either, so thank you.

>>18617208
Her UFO lack of spread + big Hitbox is basically suicide on higher difficulties.

I don't count scoring much, I mean Sakuya B DDC is godlike for score but its shit for survival. Scarlet Team is the best team for IN scoring but it is physically impossible to LNN with them.

>>18616057
Currently doing ISC no-item. Haven't been playing much this week since I'm currently on 10-4 and it isn't a very fun spell to dodge. It also strains my eyes.
My favorite side game is definitely Double Spoiler. Hatate is a very fun character to play as.
I would say Sakuya has the worst shots overall. To me, she is only good in 1 1/2 games total. It's just that her bad shots are really bad, like her shot in IN, and SakuyaB in DDC. Also loathe playing as her in PoFV, entirely due to her scope.

HNN eosd, I'm up against some good competition and I need to not embarrass myself, as he will likely HNN soon

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bl1ZiZUqNdbP2OK_W7q6xG6A6FIG78LPfJQrouu6ol4/edit#gid=1978990074

Does anyone of you good anons want to post their score?

yahoo

>>18619241
Both the ReimuB MoF links are from my submit.

>>18619241
Have you stopped caring about people using safe spots?

>>18619381
Thanks for the scores

>>18619397
My opinion about them haven’t change, but I think it’s unfair for me to push my opinion down someone’s throat. You can post run that use safespots.

>>18619381
Wait, the top one is mine.

>>18619504
I've noticed that the scores get higher on the replay menu. Should I reupload them from there?

>>18616057
>Working on right now

Trying to unlock the extra stage for EoSD and also beat SA in Normal.

>Favourite side game

Probably Hisoutensoku.

>Worst shot type

I'd say Marisa. Other than EoSD where all the shot types are pretty even, better shot types exist in other games.

Is /vg/ dead? Also shit thread

>>18620010
Only I can edit the score chart. If you want, I can give you access. Or you can post your screenshot/scoreboard/replay here and I’ll put it in.

>>18620196
Nevermind, I just read on some other post that it indeed is. /jp/ is shit, bye

>>18620196
You’re giving us a bad name. Please kill yourself.

>>18620214
>wahh
You should stay here with all the crybabies kiddo

>>18620010
Well shit, I misread your post. Yes, you should reupload them. Just post the higher score and tell me which score is yours so I can change it.

how do I not fail at Marisa/Reimu/Aya winter? or better question how am I making it possible?
I always die be it spell card or a nonspell that is stream of bullets being hit by a left over bullet, I spend last 3 hours at least trying to perfect stage 1 and 2 on normal, that is without dying. I always have level 6 on the season bomb prior to fight. Help me jaypie.

>>18619241
>7. I won’t accept MoF runs using Marisa-B glitch. But I also won’t ask for replays if you submit MoF MarisaB score. I trust you
using vsync patch to fix the glitch before submitting MoF MarisaB score.
retard

The 12 days o̶f̶ ̶C̶h̶r̶i̶s̶t̶m̶a̶s̶ to get an eosd hnn using reimuA

HRtP fucking sucks

>>18619241
Add PC-98 and maybe :>

Who's the easiest character to 1cc EoSD with? I'm new to the series and I've tried ReimuA and MarisaB. I can no death and usually no bomb until stage 4 and then I get down to my last continue.

>>18620196
What's wrong with it?

still playing home run derby.
favorite side-game is watching /jp/ lose its mind over shot types.
>>18616224
>enlighten me
highly relaxed speed so it depends on the matchup, but anyone who isn't reimu, youmu, marisa, eiki, or maybe medicine is in the play-for-fun tier. flowers can hit the ai, which sucks for scoran.
>>18617594
>her scope
it's hilarious. she's actually spin to win.

>>18620832
I don't see anyone losing their minds here

>>18620686
Not enough tripfags, I'm guessing

>>18620398
winter is by far the strongest shot for survival. pick marisa for the best results. you should be aware of winter laser stacking, which means that as long as you keep firing and gain new season levels, the old lasers don't go away and you get a bigger damage boost. they only go away if you bomb, die, or go into dialog. This allows them to build up very heavy damage, both during stages and during a boss.

you should release in front of the bosses face, right before they shoot bullets, on all cards and nonspells that give a lot of bullet cancels. This will give you stacked lasers and lots of damage (remember you also get a damage boost when your release is active). Look up a Marisa Winter Lunatic replay and you should see this important technique.

>I spend last 3 hours at least trying to perfect stage 1 and 2 on normal
It sounds like you are new to Touhou and need to build up your basic dodging skills better. Go into Spell Practice Mode and practice the spells you die on until you don't die. You shouldn't be dying to any Stage 1, 2, or 3 spells.

>>18620630
I’m not going to spend any effort in creating new sheets for PC-98. Unless you want to make and keep updating it yourself, then I can give access.

>>18620650
Marisa A because her damage is the highest. EOSD is very well balanced so it really comes down to personal preference.

Permission to mofumofu Ran's tails acquired.

Forgot to mention, if you want to submit a score in >>18619241, use the term 'score' somewhere in your post.

>>18620650
what difficulty? ReimuB is a solid choice for damage and spread and has a non-trivial patchy, ReimuA has an easier patchy, MarisaA has a powerful shot but has little spread and a hard patchy, MarisaB has a very powerful bomb and an ok patchy but the shot (and movement speed if you're used to reimu) is distracting, ask if you need more help

>>18620983
My record so far was 7,8-8.0m hi-score on normal (prob shit anyways), 4 years is rather new to entirety of how old is Touhou, you got that right. Problem is I many times misjudge where Etarnity decides to move on first spellcard, 1 pixel of and I'm being hit by a bullet. Backing off and getting points on more released attack is a safe option, but once I loose the distance it's rather impossible to get near except for last spell. I want to get the best results I can from the start instead of going easy way, I won't get bad habits this way.

>>18621093
One day, surely

>>18621256
Marisa A's patchy is actually quite easy on normal compared to how hard it gets relative to the others on lunatic, Reimu B gets the hardest on normal by far.

>>18621551
I second this. Plus her bomb is still strong enough to kill almost any card with one use when needed. And her damage is a god send on Red Magic.

It's Lunatic where her patchy shit becomes impossible and people gravitate to raymoo

>>18621045
Not him but I'm willing to do it.

>>18616057
I'm working on beating Flandre, my first extra boss in my first Touhou game and I am really getting walled. Thinking of just taking a break and playing another Touhou game for a bit, like MoF or PCB and going back to Flandre later.

>>18621975
Also adding to this, what are some of the best shot types in MoF?

>>18622015
ReimuB and MarisaC are usually considered the best for each character. ReimuA is also pretty good.

why do most people use Reimu B in EoSD? Is it the "hardest" one? Or is it considered the "standard" shot type for runs?

Do a score run you faggot

>>18622162
She's the better shot on higher diffs and has highest potential damage output

>>18621671
Can you put all of PC-98 scoreboards in one sheet? Not to sound rude or anything but adding 5 more sheets in the existing spreadsheet would make it look ugly and harder to navigate.

Also, can you handle /jp/‘s score submissions? I don’t come here often, so it would be really helpful if someone could handle it. If you just want to handle the PC-98 score submissions then it’s fine too.

>>18620650
ReimuA if you're a beginner, homing missiles help you clear stages, has a good bomb, easy Patcholi spells.
If you can make it to stage 4 with no misses you absolutely can do it once you've memorized stage 4 spawning patterns and some stage 5 tricks.

Is 500mil on PCB's Extra quite low?

>>18624264
Yeah.

>>18624264
My best result is around 550mil and I didn't play for score, so I'd say yes.

>>18622525
>Can you put all of PC-98 scoreboards in one sheet?
How about a sheet per 2 games. Since you seem to be ignoring PoFV might as well ignore PoDD
>Also, can you handle /jp/‘s score submissions? I don’t come here often, so it would be really helpful if someone could handle it.
Sure, I can also handle /2hug/'s score as well if you also want help there. I'll send you an email and then you can give me access.

Friendly reminder we have our very own score board! Play for score you bakas!

>>18620650
>>18622569
ReimuA's homing is terribly weak, though. It's so weak that her stage performance is ironically worse than ReimuB's. The only good things I can mention about ReimuA is that her bomb seems strong and she has easier patchouli spells (at least on Lunatic).

For a quick 1cc I'd say MarisaB would be the easiest because she's got really good bombs and still passable shot performance. ReimuB and especially MarisaA start to shine more when you're more experienced with the game and have a good idea of the routes/strategies/tricks you can do (especiallly with ReimuB since there's a lot of shotgunning with her).

>>18624998
No

In case anyone cares, I added PC-98 (excepting PoDD) to the score spreadsheet in case anyone wants to submit their scores.
>>18625462
Fag

I fucking hate this so much. I made it to the final stage of EoSD with MarisaB, no deaths, and then have to use all of my continues to win. I then spent an hour trying to do it again since the 1cc was so close and keep dying to piss easy spell cards early on. Fuck this game I hate it but I want to be good so bad.

>>18625814
It's bad but you will eventually do it, like I did. A lot of the time my run would fall apart on either Sakuya or Remilia pre-Red Magic and I would be annoyed but I eventually kept trying and got through it. Flandre on the other hand is discouraging as hell.

>>18625462
go back to your 3dpd threads already cross-boarding faggot

>>18625974
Your new is showing man.

for the Scoreboard

All MarisaA

>>18626140
Name? Any name you want.

>>18626220
p

>>18626403
Thanks anon.

>>18626140
why even bother to hide your name when you're posting the WR?

>>18626220
It's clearly Pepe.

>>18616057
Fuck the tiger bitch in UFO I beat everyone else at most on my third try, but I can't get past her for some reason.

>>18626765
Hard?

>>18626529
shhhh

>>18626529
>PC-98
>WR
?????
do anyone even keep track of this for the 1 person in the entire world that plays it

>>18626140
>MarisaA
don't you mean MimaA

name is still p

full scores :

Makai
Easy : 11,306,730
Normal : 11,154,530
Hard : 11,638,220
Lunatic : 13,285,410

Jigoku
Easy : 11,626,770
Normal : 11,605,140
Hard : 11,452,260
Lunatic : 14,380,250

>>18626963
and yes this is for scoreboard

For the scoreboard. Magic team lunatic. I love Yuri

For the scoreboard. Magic team normal. AlicexMarisa for life <3

>>18626985
> I love Yuri
Great name

name is still p, for scoreboard

For the scoreboard. Magic Team Extra. MarisaxAlice is canon

For the scoreboard. Solo sakuya extra. the epitome of IN scoring

name is still p, PB is No-Miss No-Bomb No-BorderBreak No-Focus (1.050 billion)

For the scoreboard. SA lunatic reimu A. I quit playing this game because it's too impossible.

name is still p, PB is No-Miss No-Bomb No-BorderBreak No-Focus (904 mil)

name is p, for scoreboard

>>18627033
>>18627041
Which shottype?

Pretty sure your name is Pearl.

>>18627386
Looks like it says needless reimu over the score (stage)

>>18627386
ReimuB

>>18627039
>he didnt get 4b in 2 days like every japanese player ever
Do you have bad genetics?

>>18627456
Not making mistakes is too impossible bro. That's why I play IN now, it's a good game for my small brain especially with the malice cannon it makes it ez modo

>>18627408
Not everyone can read Japanese you know.

>>18627511
I'm fairly sure you can make a lot of mistakes (deaths) and make 4b, as long as it's past stage 4 midboss?

name: Nameschonvergeben
scoreboard

>>18627548
>I'm fairly sure you can make a lot of mistakes (deaths) and make 4b, as long as it's past stage 4 midboss?

Everyone knows Orin is one of the hardest stage 5 bosses. Do you even know what you're talking about?

>>18627651
no i dont please enlighten me

>>18627592
Hi dxk! You're so good at this game... why did you stop playing? Please keep playing, we need someone like you in our community. Also please join in our discord competition!

>>18627702
>not nyaa i don't
ONE JOB

>>18627759
sorry im actually zm after i played ufo for 200 hours i wanted to take a quick break and play something easy! this only took me around 6 hours because im really good!

>>18627702
Well, most players would consider SA the 2nd hardest game, while IN would be considered one of the easiest, just under MoF.

>>18627592
so is this the 1st or the one of the other ncs

>>18627854
UFO is the hardest game in my opinion btw. People usually consider LoLK hardest but I disagree, the rabbit makes the game easy with her bomb. Finally she's useful for something other than her sex appeal. And UFO has a stage 5 boss that's like five times as hard as even Orin

>>18627854
IN is the hardest game in my opinion btw. People usually consider LoLK hardest but I disagree, the rabbit makes the game easy with her bomb. Finally she's useful for something other than her sex appeal. And IN has a stage 1 boss that's like five times as hard as even Orin

is there some trick to using Marisa A on PCB Lunatic. should i be releasing most of my borders if i dont care about score?
she was good enough to beat Hard but now I'm really hurting with only 2 bombs (which do little damage). the cherry is nice but reimu / sakuya B get almost the same and have better range more bombs etc

20 mins for a "gentleman's sweep" of 2 kd cap, fail, than kd cap of warmup is absolutely preposterous and hitting myself for performing awfully is incredibly degenerate, take a lesson and don't play when you simply feel like don't playing/feel like shit

>>18628011
lunatic stretches her real then. use either sakuya or reimu b as they are far superior.

>>18628011
The "trick" is knowing how to manipulate bosses in order to lure them above marisa so she doesn't have to deal with most of the shit

>>18627029
>>18627017
>>18627000
>>18626985
Names too long. I hope you're ok with just Scala.

https://threplays.appspot.com/replay_files/5716216131878912
name Nameschonvergeben IN Lunatic

>>18628725
IN Final-B only Anon. The score board didn’t have IN Final-A category.

>>18628804
:<<<<<< please

>>18628821
Nah, creating another category for IN FinalA is a pain in the ass.

>>18628825
Why? I can do it without issues.

>>18628011
MarisaA's best power is that she gets a good amount of borders very easily. You rely more on your borders than your bombs.

On bosses, try to nofocus at any moment you feel it's possible. Nofocus shots give more cherry.

Also, make sure that you cap the easier cards instead of manually border breaking them so the value of the cherry items gets high enough for the lategame (every capture increases the cherry that one cherry item gives by 100 points).

You can and should break borders as Marisa, but just don't do it intentionally on spell cards or you will get less borders later (just let it function as a shield). The MarisaA border strategy is really good for LNB as well since you're constantly shielded by borders and the rest of the mistakes will be compensated by the large number of lives PCB gives you.

She might be a little under ReimuB and SakuyaB, but if you like her then you can totally get the 1cc.

>>18617594
I'd reached ISC's last day mostly no-item'd after going through it slowly over months.

Recently I discovered that my save data had somehow been completely wiped.

>>18628854
Dude, it’s redundant. IN FinalB is already a huge category. It’s just gonna create more empty spaces.

>>18628911
It's just adding one more sheet but if you don't want to then I won't add it.

Is there any trick for Most Valuable Vajra?

>>18628965
Yes, I don't want it. It's just gonna create an empty sheet that no one even bother to fill it.

>>18628987
Bombing it as soon as the laser reaches you. Otherwise you need to circle her around quite fast, it's difficult and risky so I always bomb it. Fuck this card.

How do I dodge Okuu’s first non-spell?

>>18629240
Are you serious? They come in straight lines from a single origin. Just go where the lines aren't.

>>18629076
I can't bomb through every spell in UFO.

>>18629305
That's literally how you clear UFO though, arrive at shou with a good amount of ressources and beat the game with attrition by having more bombs than the game can throw patterns at you.

Well that was tense. I couldn't stop shaking for an hour after I beat it.

But Yukari's stage wasn't unlocked after, is there something else I need to do?

>>18630260
Capture 60 different spell cards

>>18630260
You need to cap at least 60 unique spell cards as well

>>18630260
You're going to have to capture 60 different spell cards, anon.

>>18628987
have lots of bomb
UFO is stupid

>>18630260
Congrats anon! Ran was my first too and I remember being pretty shaken up when I cleared her. Hell my dad watched and thought I had game overed cause he couldn't tell if I was screaming in anger or joy lmao
And yeah as people have mentioned you need to cap 60 unique spells at least once. Shot type doesn't matter and you can do multiple difficulties. Easy, normal, hard and extra should have more than enough spells you can cap to unlock the stage.

>>18630260
I should take a break from pounding my head against a wall from Flandre and play PCB for the first time.

>>18630268
>>18630269
>>18630352
Thanks anons, I'm doing that as we speak.

>>18630623
Wow anon thanks for sharing such a story and for the encouragement, that bit with your dad and the gameover made me laugh.

And yeah I swallowed my pride and I'm doing some clears on ez modo, shouldn't take too long to unlock Yukari.

>>18630673
PCB is a damn great game, ESPECIALLY for the first time anon, it's magical.

>>18630827
>>18630623
>>18630260
I felt the same when I beat Okina. Well, somewhat anyway. I beat her with Reimu and thought "okay so I beat Okina but does that even really count as clearing an extra?"

Good work anon. I'm going to get back to trying to be Ran soon. I'm thinking I might fight Suwako first though. Need to beat an extra that isn't extremely easy.

>>18630865
Thanks anon, good luck on your runs too, after Yukari I'll either do Okina or some more fangames

>>18630892
Definitely go after Okina. Like I said she's frightfully easy, but she's also such a fun fight. if you have trouble, just play Reimu, and it'll all work out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ-vABqWFs0 [Open]
https://mega.nz/#!LxNAQbyB!a2qOOOgYQ8-NwTWvLSgcykBXsEmhgy6IDpdEdxlG-90

Ultra Patch for HSiFS! Wohoo!

In EoSD why do I sometimes gather all the on screen items when I move to the top of the screen? This would be super helpful for getting extra lives but it only happens sometimes and ends up getting me killed pretty frequently.

>>18631952
When you have full power you can PoC (Point of Collection) to collect all items by moving to the top of the screen.

>>18631972
So to maximize my number of lives I should try to hit max power asap to make it real easy to rack up points? I'm going for my first 1cc on normal mode and have a lot of trouble with the end of stage 4 onwards.

>>18631972
PoC isn't a verb.

>>18632048
If it's safe to do so, yes, but you will naturally rack up points, so don't be risky and pick up potential point items after spell cards one right after another

>>18632224
suck my dick grammar fuhrer

>>18632224
Neither is "google" but look where we're at today. Language evolves.

>>18632224
Your mom's vagina isn't a verb but that doesn't mean I should stop using it

>>18631287
wonder if i should try my Marisa Winter on Lunatic Ultra. seems like youre just bombing and releasing through the bosses anyway.

>>18632294
oh god Okina's last cards are impossible. youd have to enter them with ~4-5 lives to have a chance.

>>18632048
you should when its doable. dont push it too hard because you get to the max number of extra lives fairly easily in EOSD.

>>18632278

>>18632278
Epic lol xD

>>18626985
Best IN player in the west?

>>18632962
That would be NC. He can shit out a border team Final A 2b like first try

>>18633113

>>18627864

>>18633146
I'm the least evil NC.

>>18633164
No, I'm the LEAST evil NC.

>>18633175
Ok prove it

Welcome to the NC Spittoon, how evil are you?

>>18633178
why don't you prove it, faker?

>>18633194
Why don't you suck my dick bitch

The fuck is NC?

>>18633194

>>18633205
post it right here faggot, you won't

>>18633208
the waterboy of kaypee

>>18633208
a scrubby dubby doo

>>18633208
All the world's evils. Like Angra/Maiyuu from Fate/Hollow Ataraxia

And of course, all the world's evils is just another name for humanity. There's a piece of NC in all of us, if you become consumed by evil you become him.

Play IN.

>>18633208
He could be you!
He could be me!
He could even be

>>18633236
Play HSiFS

https://pastebin.com/Jc2e0wLm
Play fangames

>>18632962
the best IN player in the west is actually a really old /jp/ poster

>>18633413
Hey guys, it's me.

>>18628864
yup i got it.

still think its a shitty shot for pure survival but she gets just enough borders on yuyuko to win.

>>18633208
Some guy hated by the discord

>>18633436
>discord
/jp/ has a discord?

>>18633391
I'm getting through Labyrinth of Touhou 2, but the danmakufu games don't run for me.

>>18633474
no theres a redditor discord who tries posting here sometimes and gets made fun of

>>18633239
*gunshot*

>>18633759
...the mods are telling me that this reply was deleted yet not the other obvious shitposts?

Call me dxk, vcz, or the real nc or some aikatsu watching guy, but this thread is awful and full of nc shitposters that have zero real reason to bring up this shit community drama, but only to bring about their "haha nc sucks" in a forum that they hate for quality due to their shitpost nature that they themselves contribute

Leave it out of a place with less-integrated and admittedly most likely less skilled, for lack of a better phrasing/wording, anons with 0 passion for your schoolhouse drama and leave it between yourselves in your discord servers, please

Inb4 this is deleted.

>>18634904
Cont.

Call me an autist, but namedrops usually never lead to anything but shitty drama, deleted posts, and a thread with more bumps. It doesn't do anything to improve the quality.

>You can now get touhou at wallmart
What the fuck

>>18635042
and there is still no official touhou anime
sad...

>>18634904
is takane real?

Not STRICTLY gameplay related, but have they given up on giving AoCF an official english patch?

takane is real!

What is the best final boss song and why is it Inchlings?

to all you discorders
someone make a server for shitpost/bantering and link it
just dont get butthurt when i say "nigger" even once

>>18632048
Hitting max power asap isn't too hard, you can usually do it before cirno if you're agressive enough on stage 1 and move around a lot. Then make sure you PoC a lot, especially during stage portions where there is nothing around and on spell cards except a few (sakuya first, curse of vlad, scarlet netherworld etc... basically the ones where the non will kill you if you do). You don't need to past 60M though, that's when you get the last extend (usually around stage 5/6 on first clears, depending on how much you PoC)

>>18635539
You can't say that when TH6, 7, 10, 11, 15 exist.

>>18635580
I’m sorry, I didn’t put shit games in my calculation.

>>18635893
did you really have to shit on the only good games?
though this is expected from a DDC-loving pleb.

>>18635933
EoSD and PCB are clunky, MoF has no graze counter, SA has infinite bombs and shit coding, LoLK has shit mechanic. Just admit you have shit taste already.

>>18635893
>>18636015
> calls half of the windows games shit
> is DDCpleb

lol wat

>>18636015
yeah no shit they're clunky, they are probably older than you.
even though I believe that visible hitbox shouldn't be a thing, it leads to cancer micrododging danmaku vomit spellcards where your eyes are glued to that red-white dot.

>LoLK has shit mechanic
are you referring to point device mode? it's not like there is no legacy mode.

13 and 14 have the most forgettable characters and blandest songs, and the result are incredibly boring to play. DDC is the worst on this, I can only count two non-shit tracks: Reverse Ideology and Magical Storm. Compared to MoF goodness, ZUN has dropped the bar, and picked it up since LoLK.
12, 13, 14 all have shit resource systems, because autistically memorizing routes and risking your ass for a 1/1488 of a life is prime gameplay.
8 is the easiest game in series, lmao press continue to win and free deathbombing.

What's the easiest game to 1cc?

>>18637396
1) MoF since you can literally bomb through everything, easy stage 5, Kanako is not that hard.
2) unironically EoSD: has no gimmicks except rank and overall spellcard patterns aren't complicated/dense. Good starting game. The only problem is learning how to do stage 4. Remilia is not hard.
3) IN & PCB: everything starting from stage 4 is ass for a beginner, but easy if you can abuse their mechanics like border breaks and "deathbombing". Yuyuko requires memorization though.

>>18637396
LoLK Reisen or HSiFS with release spam

>>18633391
Oh look, more Fantasy Maiden Wars (aka RNGshit the Game: the Experience) wanking. Disregarding this.

>>18633391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex-oZmNVYhY
I've downloaded this but I can't play it with my shit computer.

>>18635933
>>18636222
Just to let you know, >>18635893 is not >>18635539

>>18637465
Recommend me a character for MoF normal mode

>>18637396
Hidden Star in Four Seasons without a fucking doubt.

>>18637787
If you're just going to win easily by bombing through the whole game, the shot type doesn't really matter. Otherwise go with Reimu, the particular shot type is your preference.

Since it's our lord and master's birthday, make sure you play on lunatic today.

>>18637465
>Remilia is not hard
I would have said Remilia is actually hard no matter what difficulty you play but compared to bosses like Junko, Sukuna, Okina, she's indeed middle ground. Still, be careful of that last card.

>>18637931
>Okina
I thought Okina was on the easier side.

>>18637951
Her last spellcard is rape.

>>18638080
You get enough resources to deal with it, unless you choose fall, at which point you just fucking die.

>>18638100
What is the difference between fall and others?

>>18638112
Okina's last card is based entirely on what season you use. Spring's probably the hardest on higher difficulties, but the first two phases are pretty easy. Fall is just hard from the start, and requires some very precise dodging, plus she moves around all the fucking time, and bombs aren't as good at clearing the screen for fall than they are for the others if you're using aya or cirno.

>>18638119
Ah ok, I thought there was some extra gimmick that made other seasons particularly easier or something. I managed to barely get 1cc with ReimuFall but because of
>she moves around all the fucking time,
I actually timed the card out because I couldn't hit her enough.

>>18637951
she is easy until her last card, which is PDH-tier except she's immune to bombs. you'll need at least 2-3 lives to deal with it. I kind of like that about HSIFS, it gives you a ton of resources but Stage 5 / Okina takes a ton of resources.

>>18638140
>>18638200
Yeah, I honestly timed out her fall card with aya on purpose, since later phases are way too hard, and bombing whenever something came near me was a good way to time it out due to bomb lengths and me calculating how many bombs and lives it'd take to just go for a time out. Much safer. Summer/Winter is significantly easier, but you will probably still need a few lives. In hindsight it's harder than Kanako's final, but you can afford to die more.

>>18637787
ReimuA should be the easiest.

>>18637931
Last card is too RNG with those wall-in formations, but it's not really hard on its own.
She's definitely an ass boss on higher difficulties.

Should I play PCB or MoF?

>>18638253
PCB

>>18638253
yes.

>>18638366
I should have asked which first.

Newfag here, I'm taking a break from EoSD, it's stressing me out way too much. I can consistently get to the first Sakuya fight with no continues but get fucked pretty hard after that. I hate Patchy's lasers so much, they eat so many lives.

>>18616057
>working on
Right now I'm between MoF Hard and actually beating Flan for once. I should also bother trying to beat Yukari and Koishi, but I hardly ever feel like it. And I guess I gotta beat Nue and Mamizou, but I didn't like UFO and TD much. Nue's stage certainly doesn't help.

>favourite side game
ISC, the items are quite fun and trying to go itemless is good practice.

>worst shot types
I guess I'm gonna give one for each game, they're just opinions and recollections, so I may be wrong in some choices.

EoSD: ReimuA not only is slow, but takes forever to actually kill shit.
PCB: ReimuA, or maybe both Marisa shots, she kinda got the short end of the stick.
IN: For singles we have Sakuya and Alice, for teams, I always struggled to get anything done with Scarlet.
MoF: ReimuC.
SA: ReimuC (I should try MarisaC some day, though).
UFO: My dislike for the game makes it hard for me to consider any of the shots good.
TD: My disregard for the game makes it hard for me to consider any of the shots bad.
DDC: MarisaA, maybe SakuyaB.
LoLK: Marisa.
HSiFS: I felt everyone who isn't MarisaW simply can't deal anything resembling real damage. Maybe it's the earlier bosses having tight time limits?
Sometimes I do wonder if ZUN actually tests all of the shottypes.

>>18638530
>actually beating Flan for once
Same, been trying all week and I still die to the same couple spell cards and haven't even seen her last couple spell cards yet. Thinking of just playing something else for a bit in the hopes that I might get better as a result.

>>18638540
I'm still kinda depressed after getting horribly assblasted by Counter Clock, the dying on the last few secs of her survival. Not like I stood a chance by that point, but at least getting to see her final would have been neat.

>>18638474
For Patchy's laser, it's really just dashing from one side to the other (the hitbox of the lasers actually disappears before the sprite does). The second time around, you just have to misdirect the bullets so they don't get in the way. A bit of stage 4 and a lot of stage 5 and 6 have bullets aimed directly at you, so try to stand still and just tap to dodge.

>>18638570
I've gotten to Counter Clock only once. I keep shitting the bed when it comes to Cranberry Trap for whatever reason and to Maze of Love. Maze I just accept I will never be good at it and just sacrifice a life to kill her quick.

>>18638579
Cranberry is a tough starter, yes. I genrally start by shotgunning her, then try and misdirect the aimed bullets. My strat does rely on Flan cooperating with her movement, so it's definitely not perfect. As for Maze of Love, try and dodge it like a normal spell. It's kinda scary, and you'll likely bomb twice, but it's ultimately better than dying horribly. It's also rather fast.

>>18638570
In case you wonder what the timing is, you should probably wait for the laser to get past the middle of the screen. It's by the time the second set of lasers starts moving, I believe.

>>18638591
Cranberry generally goes from ok to frustrating based on how much Flandre moves and when she does move, she just loves sticking to the top corners and staying there. Maze I do try to dodge on the bottom and not even trying to do the maze and I can do ok but never have cleared it without dying.

Is Suwako really as easy as people make her out to be?

>>18638620
Once you get how her gimmicks work, she isn't too terrible. Two survivals in a row is kind of a dick move, though.

What is the releasable gauge in 4 seasons and how do I use it?

>>18638647
Press C for barrier

>>18637650
I’m not the creator of the pastebin. He’s from /2hug/. Ask him there.

>>18638758
That actually explain that tier rating.

tfw I literally can't play hsifs because it has really shit color contrast.

for example I often die on stage 2 boss first spell because my eyes can't discern those blue danmaku from the dynamic background. it's the same with Monster Cucumber in MoF. and some stage 5/6 parts are fuckfests of 859438593 items and bullets. no idea how to play that without bombing/releasing the shit out of everything.

>>18638838
The only time I had that problem was with MS stage 4. You just need to git gud, my friend.

>>18638887
>>18638838
HSiFS backgrounds are a bit fucky though, the complaint is valid and people tend to agree on the fact that that game gets confusing sometimes, though it isn't as bad as the MS stuff yeah, and you can get used to it in most cases

Are PoFV "LNN"'s a thing? I don't see any out there.

>>18638986
How do you "no bomb" PoFV? No level 4 spells? No manual spells?

>>18639029
Also, I'm sure no matter how good you are, the AI's (specially Eiki's) bullshit makes a no death run pretty tough.

>>18638986
LNN just implies two extra conditions, someone did a medicine no miss no charge so that technically counts, just not a traditional LNN since the game doesn't really allow that.

>>18638887
not him, but i'd like to git good eyes so i could have good color vision. if you think ms s4 is a problem then be thankful because distinctions in brightness get a lot worse than that.
>>18638986
nobody plays pofv.

>>18638838
HSIFS is one of the easier games and the background are beautiful. That spellcard is mostly static and can be memorized. Wear glasses if you need to.

>>18639029
My personal definition is no level 2+ spells.

>>18639052
>>18639064
I'm really just asking because I pulled a 1miss no "bomb" (as per my above definition) Medicine run out of my ass a month ago that somehow killed Eiki in 1:07 so I figured it should be pretty doable with good Eiki rng but I can't find a run out there is all.

newfag here, just tried out lunatic mode, how the fuck is this even fair? It's like ZUN literally just took a shit on my screen

>>18639179
i thought the same thing but have cleared lunatics. it just takes a lot of practice and you have to get really good at the game.

>>18639179
Your hitbox is pretty small. And bullet hitboxes are often smaller than their graphic.

>>18639201
Are there patches that make the game only show respective hitboxes?

>>18639179
Most of what you see can be routed or memorized since it's either manipulatable by being based on your position or the same thing each time. For the rest (RNG based) eventually you'll have died enough times to stuff to be able to somewhat get a hang of the patterns and reasonably be able to do them. While it is true that some patterns can be qualified as truly unfair or extremely difficult, most of those can still be done with some degree of consistency.

Anyone (and I mean absolutely anyone, I got into this mess without ever having played any single hard game or any other game above normal difficulty and now i'm at ease on almost every pattern of EoSD lunatic) can improve and learn enough to make sense of all that bullet vomit and be able to play these games really well. Work your way up the difficulties and it'll be fine in the end, though it will come after a pretty significant amount of credits and runs of the games. Welcome to 2hu, enjoy your stay and have fun! :3

>>18639212
yes but dont use these, you should learn the hitbox of each bullet.

>>18639212
yeah, and they're nice as a reference/quick way to learn the basic size of each bullet, but tracking a bunch of the one-pixel-hitbox bullets is more difficult than tracking their normal counterparts. zun certainly could have downsized most of the other bullets to give much better visibility, but them's the breaks.

Has AoCF been translated yet? Also, is it more cooperative towards controllers than ULiL is?

>>18639375
>Has AoCF been translated yet?
Meaning? There's the usual fanmade patch, which isn't technically finished yet but it already does it job perfectly. The official English patch is definitely in the works though they haven't talked about it in a while.

>>18633208
Nice Clear.

>>18638220
>>18638140
>>18638119
isn't fall final static?

>>18639967
No? Some of it is even aimed.

>>18639967
No, it isn't. Maybe the first phase is, like the first phase of Winter and Spring.

>>18639967
No, but it is completely routeable and that's what matters.

>>18638579
>Maze I just accept I will never be good at it and just sacrifice a life
Just bomb it wtf

I'm literally crying right now. I hate these games so fucking much. HSiFS has the most bullshit hitboxes ever. I'll never 1cc anything. Just fuck my life.

>>18640447
You don't need to dodge in HSiFS. All you need to do is to press C.

>>18640476
The stage 2 boss keeps killing me with those fucking knives because I keep clipping the handle somehow. I swear to god I'm not though.

>>18640486
Are you sure hitbox is your primary problem?

>>18640486
youre supposed to stay at the bottom of the screen and dodge horizontally only. try it in spell practice and youll have it down in 3 attempts.

HSIFS is the easiest game to 1CC. Stop sucking donkey dick.

>>18640182
Maybe I don't know the proper time to bomb it and not die while doing damage.

>>18640583
It really isn't. HSiFS has LoLK-tier patterns which you're supposed to release or bomb through, which most beginners can't.

Any 2hu from EoSD to MoF is easy enough to 1cc, just take your pick.

>1cc IN
>don't beat Kaguya's last word but it's optional so it's K
>1cc EoSD
>on the cusp of 1ccing PCB
>throw Yuyuko's last word because i assume it's optional
>GAME OVER
just fuck my shit up senpai

>>18639129
You only did that due to Medicine's poison. It's probably also doable with Aya's AI breaking attacks, but other than that, it doen't seem feasible.

>>18640447
I didn't like HSiFS much, all the shottypes feel weak and the game gets really fucking rapey from stage 4 to 5, much more so than usual.

>>18642682
Who are you quoting?

I can't access moriyashrine. What's going on?

>>18616057
>working on right now
HSiFS normal. Not really into it since the game is really lackluster compared to LoLK music/design wise.
>what's your favorite side-game
Double Spoiler and ISC
Also Fairy Wars has the best extra stage theme in the series and one of the coolest streaming sequences

>>18642857
>I didn't like HSiFS much, all the shottypes feel weak
Marisa Winter is the strongest shot ever

>>18642376
>HSiFS has LoLK-tier patterns
Dude, no

Speaking of HSiFS, which shottypes are good for a 1cc? I tried Reimu winter but I'd wish to be able to release.

>>18643990
Marisa and Reimu Winter are the best for survival. You get lots of releases if you do it in front of the boss on most nonspells or spells.

>>18644092
Any second options? One on which I can use release for bullet cancelling?

>>18644185
autumn is good but you have to memorize a lot more. its very risky because you die if you run into enemies while releasing

summer is basically a worse winter. it gives a smaller damage boost on releases, doesnt increase shot damage, and using releases as "deathbombs" isnt that good because you don't get a deathbomb window

>>18643990
Summer is pretty solid as your season for general clearing. The ice shots do decent work on stage portions, it's very spammable for dense patterns since it only uses one charge of your meter and can deal damage to bosses if you drop it on them.

>>18644185
winter gets the most bullet cancels, only autumn gets more

Spring is pretty good, fuck you guys for never mentioning it.

>>18644522
its pretty bad because Okina's card is hell, the subshot does no damage, and you lose all your meter on release yet it does fewer bullet cancels than winter + no damage boost

>doing "fine" in 1cc PCB
>get to Yuyuko
>get destroyed every time
I feel like this is going to take some time, not as long as it took to 1cc EoSD but still will take some time.

>>18643806
It's literally the only strong shottype in the entire game.

>>18644552
>because Okina's card is hell
They're all hell, fuck off. You could make the argument that Fall is not as hell as the others but that's just splitting hairs.
>the subshot does no damage
Objectively false.
>and you lose all your meter on release yet it does fewer bullet cancels
Learn to route.

>>18644569
Use your bombs. If you're doing "fine" by the time you get to Yuyuko you should have plenty of lives and bombs left. If not, then you need to practice the earlier stages.
Break borders when there are lots of bullets on screen, maximize the amount of time you have a supernatural border and it can pretty much replace bomb usage
Use Practice Mode, I think you can unlock stage 6 if you beat the game with continues
Look at other players' replays or videos of stage 6
Play the game on Easy mode. The Normal patterns are mostly souped up versions of Easy mode, so it can give you an idea of what to expect. If you're doing Lunatic or Hard, then disregard this advice.

>>18644691
I think the only parts I have a rough time on is stage 4 stage, Youmu and Yuyuko, all still I can practice with.

>>18644691
>Play the game on Easy mode.
This was never good advice, I have no idea why people keep giving it.

>>18643990
AnyFall is cheesingly easy. I'm not that good of a player but after multiple attempts to clear ReimuSpring, it took me 2 runs to 1cc with ReimuFall. Just release in boss's face, retreat, rinse and repeat. It was so easy that I feel bad about it and I won't feel like I have cleared HSiFS until I manage it with another season.

>>18644697
Stage 4 isn't too terribly bad. It's mostly streaming. Learn to hold your fire for once.

>>18644708
>Learn to hold your fire for once.
Pffft. Danmaku is all about firepower.

I dread stage 4 whenever I play PCB, partially because it's nasty and partially because it's so long, but I appreciate it for teaching me what are aimed shots and what is streaming back when I was a beginner.

>>18644729
Like, no, seriously, there's a rather considerable ammount of enemies that's best to just ignore. The streams they shoot when they don't die are considerably more feasible.

>>18644738
If you learn some simple routing you can shoot and poc all the items without dying (with the exception of a few of the faries later in the stage which are trickier). But it's not really necessary for a beginner with all the resources PCB gives anyway.

Such an impossible game.... Why doesn't ZUN make easy games like IN again?

>>18644794
Please, please tell me there's no video by such title.

>>18644813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXc1cnL450I

>>18644813
Go look it up on youtube.

>>18642682
You deserve it for not playing the games in order.

>>18644830
>>18644832
I just realized my reading comprehension kinda died for a moment and I understood the title saying the exact opposite of what it meant.

>>18644665
The spring card is by far the hardest on Lunatic. The subshot does very little damage, and winter does much much more. The winter release gives you more bullet cancels and more damage.

There's a reason Spring is consistenly called the worst subseason.

>>18644665
there have been many LNN runs with autumn and winter. there havent been any with spring as far as I know, maybe someone has done one by now.

>>18644867
Amana got a MarisaSpring, but that's not really representative of anything because he's a madman.
No summer LNNN exists though.

>>18644888
well yeah summer and spring are not as good as fall / winter
and okina autumn is a lot more routable than okina summer i think

>don't play PCB for two months
>tfw Youmu almost tore me a new one

Her first non is almost impossible, you can't bomb through it since its a non-spell, you can only pray that you will be able to pathfind through the second wave. Yes I do know that you can misdirect it, but still.
if I hadn't recalled how to do Yuyuko's survival I wouldn't get that ReimuB 1CC.

>>18645399
you palying normal? its very easy, its slow as fuck

Hmm, I appear to have captured about 70 spellcards but still no Yukari stage. I have cleared Ran's stage too
According to the games gallery here are my stats for spell cards captured:
>22 from Reimu's spirit shotype
>19 from Marisa's magic shottype
>11 From Sakuya's illusion shotype
>18 from Sakuya's time shotype

What am I missing guys?

>>18645595
Did you even do the math? Those numbers don't even add up to 60 you idoit.

>>18645595
You do understand it has to be 60 unique spells, and capping a spell with all shots still counts as just one, right? I think that menu where you can check your histories tells you te actual ammount of spells you've capped.

>>18645621
You fail math forever.

>>18645621
22+19=41
41+11=52
52+18=70
????

>>18645399
>Her first non is almost impossible
No it's not, and I say this as somebody who sucks at this non-spell in particular.
>you can't bomb through it since its a non-spell
Yes you can, if you use the right timing and shotgun it.
>you can only pray that you will be able to pathfind through the second wave.
Or just memorize it since it's not random at all, only depending on the player's position.

>>18645595
It has to be across difficulties, not shot types. Just play Hard and/or Easy for a bit until you get enough.

>>18645595
Anyways Phantasm is literally just a harder Extra. At least Yukari herself does have some spells which are very different from Ran's (the first two being the most obvious).

I'm fucking done with this garbage series. Grinding for hours on end for a 1cc just to lose to a failed pixel perfect dodge is fucking garbage. ZUN is a hack and this series blows.

>>18646726
See you in a day when your instincts to beat the game bring you back.

>>18646750
Whoever said HSiFS is easy is a fucking liar. I'm even doing bullshit summer strats and I can't fucking do it.

>>18646763
I feel you, it costed me more than the easier half of the games (IN, PCB, MoF, TD, EoSD). It was easier for me to 1cc DDC than to 1cc HSiFS

>>18646726
If you aren't finishing stage 3 with max lives, you aren't releasing enough. If you already are reaching that amount then you've got more than enough resources to bomb through most of the remotely threatening patterns. Not even factoring in the other extends you'll be getting if you continue releasing any of the dense crap which is prominent through the succeeding stages.

>>18646763
>Whoever said HSiFS is easy is a fucking liar.
Hey, be glad they didn't recommend you LoLK like it happened to that one dude.

>>18644569
Who are you quoting?

>>18646763
>Whoever said HSiFS is easy is a fucking liar.
Do you have any 1ccs?

>>18646726

>>18646907
No, I'm going for my first. I'm new.

>>18646726
HSIFS is the easiest game in the series. You are given an embarrassing amount of resources. It even gives you spell practice mode. There are no "pixel perfect" dodges in HSIFS normal mode. Stop being bad at videogames.

>>18646763
Why would you use summer? its a terrible season. Use Marisa / Reimu winter or route with autumn.

>>18646948
There's your answer then. It's an easy game, you're just not at a level where you can 1cc reliably. There's nothing wrong with that, it just means you have to practice. Try looking up perfect runs of the game, try to learn how to dodge things without release or bombs, and then figure out which parts you need to bomb or release for.

>>18646955
Summer is king on normal.

>>18646963
No it isn't. Summer shot adds 0 damage on bosses, Winter adds a shit ton of damage because of laser stacking and release boost. It's not even close.

>>18646990
>Summer shot adds 0 damage on bosses,
Summer can completely skip cards that Winter can't by dumping it on bosses for the right card. Eternity's second, Narumi's last, cards 2 and 3 for the crazy backup dancers, and Okina's second card. Further, Winter is extremely weak for stages, since you'll be trying to keep it built up for bosses, midbosses, and special parts, whereas Summer can be used during stages with no real drawbacks, making it a lot better for beginners.

>>18646951
post your pndlist scores right here faggot

Fuck guys c'mon, what season do I use to win?

>>18647042
Winter adds a ton of damage and clear any boss attack faster than Summer. Winter has better boss performance than Summer. To say anything else is wrong.

Oh wait, you haven't played the game:
>Narumi's last
Winter skips it too.
>cards 2 and 3
Winter skips it too.
>Okina's second card
Winter skips it too.

Winter and autumn are better than the other subseasons. There's a reason they have tons of LNNs and no one has done a Summer LNN.

>>18647091
Autumn or Winter. Use bombs liberally because you get 3+ per life. You can consult this chart (google translate Chinese) to compare them, you will see that Winter adds a disgusting amount of damage.

http://thwiki.cc/%E6%B8%B8%E6%88%8F%E6%94%BB%E7%95%A5/STG%E6%9C%BA%E4%BD%93%E8%AF%B4%E6%98%8E#.E4.B8.9C.E6.96.B9.E7.BB.80.E7.8F.A0.E4.BC.A0

>>18647098
That reason is the okina final rofl, nobody wants to deal with that shit on pace. LNNN is a bad metric for the usefulness of a subseason since you won't be releasing in the first place (still agree on your choice of subseason though)

>>18646726
>>18646763
I'm inclined to say to just switch to eosd, mof, or pcb for a first clear, but my pride wouldn't let me switch if I haven't even accomplished my goal. I can relate to having such bitterness for touhou as well, which isn't good for the mental game, but I'm human as well, and remember that it will be worth it in the end if you do 1cc.

Why don't you post a replay of what you do, and the videos that you use as a reference? What parts specifically do you need help with?

>>18647098
and screenshots of each card since im getting tired of summershills leading new players down the wrong path. and this is spellcard practice so you dont even get winter laser stacking.

>>18647042
>Summer can completely skip cards that Winter can't
No. Winter is 100 times better for bosses than Summer.

>>18647098
>Winter adds a ton of damage and clear any boss attack faster than Summer
And just to be technically correct you could get a few seconds faster than winter if you dump half your Summer gauge on top of a boss. But on many cards (such as Forget Your Name) this will get you killed, and if the Winter shot has 3+ lasers stacked then its still clearing faster.

>>18647098
>Winter has better boss performance than Summer.
I outright said that Winter was boss focused and was weak on stages, which is why summer is better for new players who aren't yet good at stage portions, or aren't used to teh game. And I never said that winter can't skip cards, you said Summer can't damage bosses, which is why I stated that. Plus, to skip those cards with Winter would require a lot of gauge, and there's better places to spend that gauge. Why would you waste it on Okina's second card when you can get more PiV from her nons from winter.

Winter is boss focused, summer is more flexible, and that makes it better for newbies.

>>18647190
Oh wait, i said it can't skip some cards. Yeah, I don't think I've had a run where I could skip Narumi's last with winter, but that's only because I spent winter release on her nons so I could get more PiV than wasting it on the last.

>>18647091
Winter or Summer, if you can't 1cc then you're probably not good enough to play Fall yet. It's probably the strongest season in the game, but it's extremely easy to fuck up.

Don't play spring.

>>18647190
>PiV
oh now youre bringing up scoring? Winter still outperforms summer.
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/High_scores

>>18647225
So what? it doesn't change the fact that you have to spend your Winter on the spots with the most PiV so you can get season back, and can't afford to waste it on stage portions or weaker cards, while you're allowed to fuck up with Summer. Winter's about dumping it on a boss when they're firing the most bullets so you can get PiV and season back, rather than using it when you think you're about to get hit.

Okay I made it to stage 5 boss before losing my last life, how do I share my replay?

>>18647242
it should be in your folder, you'll have to go to appdata to find it though.

>>18647235
The game gives you so many lives and bombs that stages are a non-issue. And I'd much rather have Winter's stronger power during stage 3 (big fairies) or stage 4 (big fairies leading to a bonus bomb if you don't release).

I've seen new players get frustrated because they use Summer like a deathbomb and it doesn't work that way. It doesn't give you a deathbomb window, and you are vulnerable between releases even if you mash the key.

>>18647235
>weaker cards
You mean the ones Winter destroys in mere seconds?

>>18647246
Yeah and I understand that, but new players do have to learn that release is not a deathbomb. You plan your releases, right? Summer helps cause you can plan to use them in a lot of little places that give new players trouble, and still have left over ones for when things go wrong.

Don't get me wrong, Winter's more effective, but I don't think it's nearly as good for new players, who aren't as good at resource management.

>>18647253
Winter's shot doesn't destroy cards fast enough that a new player can't fuck it up.

>>18647245
I don't see it in my folder, what's the path?

Normalshitter here. Marisa Winter the strongest.

>>18647287
Should be ShanghaiAlice, then go into Th16, then pick the replay with the right number as the slot you put it in.

>>18647297
I've never used Windows before, I don't know where that is

>>18647399
type in %APPDATA%

>>18647399
Blank space is your username
In here there'll be a "replay" folder with a bunch of RPY files that correspond to your saved replays, grab the right one and upload it somewhere

I've completely fucking lost it for EoSD, I practiced one stage so many fucking times and got it perfect, then died in the dumbest fucking ways
Honestly most of my deaths come from just dumb fucking luck and not paying attention always during the regular stages, the boss fights are fine.

I'm especially pissed because I died on the bonus round of Cirno's stage. How the fuck do you die during the bonus?

>>18647632
was this the oil drum or car smashing bonus round

>>18647731
Isn't the part with the birds bonus? I mean, I've always thought it was, it's just free points and the birds can't kill you
apparently

>>18647632
I assume stage 1 is trivial for you? What difficulty and post a replay? Perhaps do less runs/more warmup, take breaks, and mentally focus to make your runs actually count?

and bouns round of cirno's stage?

>>18647735
You mean the part after the stage 2 midboss? Those can kill you if you touch them, which is very annoying.

And to my knowledge, nothing in touhou is considered to be a bonus round, unless some pc-98 player can disprove me as I don't play pc-98

>>18647739
I didn't save the replay I was just pissed, plus up to stage 4 is trivial for me, my issue is I'm just not focused, so I'll certainly take your advice
>>18647744
That's really strange then, I've been playing 6 forever and I've just never had that happen, even when running into them, or at least I thought I did however long ago
Also I've played through most of the PC-98 games, there's nothing

tfw satisfied and happy about an admittedly decent achievement

>>18647759
I probably should've clarified to warm up a little more, instead of tiring yourself, putting on some new music helps

Playing with a good mentality is key

Mokou is a fucking clusterfuck. Half of her moves are easy as shit and the another half is hard as balls.

>>18647744
well if you kill certain things faster you get bonus enemies which means additional resources

EOSD has stage 2
SA has this
TD does this a lot
HSIFS has this

I think almost every game has it

>>18647786
use border team or yukari if she is unlocked

>>18647786
Her nons too are too stressful and non-trivial as well, unlike flan, ran, and yukari's

I'm pretty sure this can't really be of help but for those who are interested in it, here's how a noob like me has managed to deal with Flandre.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44694

>>18649152
Dang I wish I could get as far as you did with 3 reserve lives. I always seem to beef it somewhere.

>>18649254
The golden rule when it comes to Touhou is to always keep your head cool. It's extremely hard when you're at the last card and the hp are getting very low, but if you get hot-headed, you will make mistakes. Stay calm and calculating.

>>18649296
I don't really get mad but I do get frustrated when I die to really simple stuff or stuff I know I can do.

>that feel when I haven't really played much of my favorite Touhous game, let alone beat her
This is a shitty feel I need to rectify but I keep getting distracted with other Touhou games.

>>18650205
It feels nice that I have NN'd my favorite 2hu on lunatic, LNB'd on both her shots and NNN'd Phantasm as her on PCB, Lunatic 1cc'd as her solo in IN, Lunatic 1cc'd as her in PoFV, and Lunatic 1cc'd as both her shots and NB'd extra as her in DDC.
Now no one can call me a secondary or insult her as "babby's first 2hu" or any of the sort!

>>18650376
>not all LNNs
You're a secondary and Sakura is babby's first 2hu.

>>18650376
I only started playing Touhou so I wouldn't be called a secondary. It feels great being superior to people.

>>18650457
excuse me sir i am babby and my first 2hu was aya

>>18650457
>Sakura
Dumb Fatefag.

>>18650534
correction; misread that as fast 2hu
my first -time- 2hu was yuuka

>>18650457
>Sakura
Maybe you're the secondary around here.

>>18650480
Most secondaries don't actually feel inferior to primaries.

Only starting out primaries get all insecure about their relative skill levels to the better players.

Opinions on PoFV?

>>18651545
Great game for playing versus a friend, and fun for scoring too (although best not to take it too seriously since it's so RNG based).

>>18651624
How do you score in this game anyway?
I'm trying to get 1ccs, but I can barely get the second 30m extend by the time I get to stage 9 and that usually isn't enough to get through Eiki's nonsense.
I think I got the third extend on 50m only once, even on hard.

>>18651671
When you blow up faries or spirits, nearby white pellets get deflected to the opponent's side of the screen. You want to deflect and create as many pellets as possible so you can get your spell point high, preferably to 999990 (where you can really get a lot of points with "bonus") and keep it there. Then spam as many level 2s as possible, which will also create pellets for your opponent to rebound to your side of the screen. Getting your spell point combo to 999990 is easier on higher difficulties or later stages where the rank is higher. Also, staying unfocused for the majority of the time will allow more lines of the faries to spawn on the screen which will help with deflecting waves of pellets, since only one "train" of faries spawns on the screen at a time when you're focused.

Reisen's a pretty easy character to score with since she spawns a lot of bullets and her level 1 charge attack blows up a big chunk of the screen. If you try out Reisen vs Cirno in lunatic vs mode, you'll probably be able to get lots of points and see how it works.

He finally got the IN LNN! The absolute madman!

good nut

took too long writing and >>18651756 hit most of the main points, so here's an addendum.

you also get points (and spell charge) faster for longer chains, so time your shooting to maximize these without dropping your chain (whenever you aren't timing 100/300/500k boss reversals). getting a bunch of spirits in a single chain is the fastest way to get points, so you can also time your shooting around this, you can focus a few spirits to stall them for a chain a couple seconds later, and you can focus individual spirits and time your shooting of them to keep your chain going while you wait for more fairies to fill the screen. reflected pellets can turn into spirits, so try to nab these as well rather than letting them escape. of course, all of this adds to the difficulty, so it's something you have to balance.

if you're using marisa or reisen (or youmu), make heavy use of their charge attack: every spirit these kill will explode like an activated spirit (larger explosion, can start a chain, can reflect pellets) and the charge attack itself acts as a chain (so every spirit marisa hits with her charge attack as she zips across the screen will count as part of the same chain). just be wary with reisen's charge attack because it sometimes detonates at a random location instead of where it's supposed to.

you should be able to get 25-30m by the start of stage six. one trick to jump start scoring for stages 1-5 is to run into a fairy at the start of the round; it only costs one orb of health (200k in stage-end bonus points) and it gets you most of a spell charge so you can start using level-two spells sooner (which makes the earlier rounds more consistent because the more level-twos the better since the ai sometimes won't reflect many pellets). this works better for eiki, reisen, reimu, and others with a lot of pellets in their level-two spells.

you probably won't be able to get to bonus until stage six, and even then it'll be a challenge, but you should at least start trying it with aya since she's relatively easy. start slow in later rounds, though, making sure you time your 100/300/500k boss reversals to keep bosses off your screen (and you can even intentionally drop your chain once or twice) because there just isn't enough shit on the screen for the first 45s or so for bonus to have a significant scoring impact, so there's no reason to go full shmup and risk taking unnecessary damage. on the other hand, don't worry about dying on the first round from stage six onward: if you do even a meh job with scoring, if you live to 2:00+ then you'll get close to 10m, if not more. trying to score intelligently is generally better than playing it super safe.

i can also give a memetic answer if anyone would like.

>>18651979 also being in reply to >>18651671

>>18651911
My heart almost gave out during Rising World

>>18630827
Been playing PCB the last couple days, man PCB really is a great game. Resurrection Butterfly is such a great spell card.

>>18651979
>start slow in later rounds
this should have been later stages, that is, stages six onward. was using rounds to mean attempts against a single opponent.

also, both rank and death timers decrease in later rounds, so you can get aggressive earlier since there's less risk. and that 45s is more like 1:15-1:30 for the lower-scoring characters.

>>18651979
>you should be able to get 25-30m by the start of stage six

This is impossible.

>>18652106
i forgot to take into account differences in difficulties. that's how it is on lunatic for the lower-scoring characters

>>18647116
I'm at the point where I just want a 1cc to validate that I can actually play these games. Which of those would you recommend?

>>18651911
so e-clebing is okay when its the discordfags?

>>18652486
PCB

THIS SERIES IS FUCKING BULLSHIT.

I went back to EoSD because fuck HSiFS and holy fucking shit stage 4 is such garbage. How the fuck do I dodge bullet puke? I have to use up all of my bombs on stage 3 boss so I'm guaranteed a death on stage 4 and patchy's lasers don't make any fucking sense so that always eats the rest of my lives every fucking time. Fuck this series, fuck ZUN, this is bullshit.

>>18652841
Cool. Now either embrace the bullshit and strive to conquer it or quit. It's that simple.

I got a 1cc as Tewi in PoFV but the game crashed upon saving the replay. Twice. Does this happen to anyone else/is there a fix?

>>18652841
EoSD has a lot of randomized bullshit, but there's also a fair ammount of fixed and aimed stuff. Patchy's lasers aren't too bad. The best I can tell you is to learn to move when you absolutely have to.

>>18652898
Oh man, I had the same happen to me. Didn't know that was a thing. I do remember the game also crashed after 1cc'ing with Lyrica, but it did save that one. Thank god it did, because it was one of my best runs ever. Now Lyrica is one of my favorite characters.

>>18652898
I think it can happen if your score list in a difficulty with a character is filled 5/5 with scores in the results screen. Download a score.dat with everyone unlocked and try again.

>>18652890
Basically this, keep at it and eventually make it or admit you're not as good at videogames as you thought.

Against my better judgment I tried HSiFS again. How the fuck do you do stage 4? I can get there with no deaths but then have to burn through most of my lives because I have to bomb every 4 seconds to not die. This is fucking bullshit, not fair at all.

>>18652970
>filled 5/5 with scores in the results screen
Only 3/5 for me right now, so I don't think that's the issue.
I guess the replay doesn't really matter though. Not like it was a great run or anything.

>>18653036
On normal? What season/character? I'll post a stage 4 NNN replay for you.

>>18653036
HSiFS Stages 4 and 5 are fucking bullshit. Just stream the streams and bomb/release the rest of the bullshit.

>>18653049
Marisa Winter because nothing else kills bosses fast enough

>>18653049
Hmm that's strange. Well hopefully it doesn't happen again.

>>18653075
>nothing else kills bosses fast enough
Can't say I agree, but whatever.
https://mega.nz/#!FewiBAhD!95DEdNazicPloR0YTJgEE8Shb6QSCOFij1LHUBUuuAo
Drop it in C:\Users\Yourname\AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice\th16\replay
I pulled a pretty bullshit micro near the end of the fairy spam right before the boss, don't expect to copy that. Hell don't really try to dodge that part at all. Also the bit right after the midboss might be a little fast for a normal player. Bullet golem's worth bombing too. Everything else should be manageable.

>>18653075
Fun Fact: Your reward for this is a decidedly subpar shottype to beat the Extra Stage with. The other, shittier shottypes (Aya notwhitstanding) have an easier time there. Gonna give HSiFS credit in that it's Extra Stage is actually better than the actual game.