/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>18484202
The OP pic is from https://vndb.org/v21552

After stories coming this year https://vndb.org/v22594

Cool pixel art.

>>18484202
Looking forward to Tsukihime Remake

>>18484567
Why hold that false hope?

>>18484562
And its making of.

>>18484568
I have to hold on to the hope that Nasu will release it one day...

>>18484609
Not as long as FGO just keeps bringing money, it's better to pray for Japan to ban gatcha altogether.

>>18484619
I don't think it has anything to do with money. They made Extella and Extella Link even though they don't have to.

>>18484625
>they don't have to.
That's a decision on the company which does most of the job, a tsukihime remake would be fully on TM.

Anyone have working crack for full uso/ https://vndb.org/v22170 ?

>>18484656
Entirely written by TMs writers who also work on FGO at the same time though. I don't think TM has staff insufficiency problems. The hard truth is probably just that Nasu doesn't feel like making the game, especially with how high the expectations of people are now.

>>18484656

Just like the continuation of the steampunk series is completely written by Sakurai?

I'm sure that's not necessarily something people would want to see, but there's no real reason for TM to do everything for a remake if they just wanted to make a remake for the heck of it. They may have other plans with it. Something in the backhand for when FGO isn't printing money anymore. Or maybe they just want to let it rest. Who knows.

Holy shit this scene. Sieg you magnificent bastard.

>>18484707
Best girl.
Best scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XphcWuiE8cQ

That red hand is pretty creepy. Game looks like it could be interesting

MOTHERFUCKER. I'm actually mad now.

>>18484707
What does that "gesture" menu do?

>>18486769
Sets gestures, duh.

Is 姉小路直子と銀色の死神 worth reading for Jackson or does Takahiro dominate it?

>>18486842
Takahiro shitfest.

>>18486842
Jackson pissfest.

Why didn't you tell me Butterfly Seeker trial is out?

>>18486960
Because it's even worse than Higurashi's "Home Alone" part.

>>18487014
Really?

Dunno if anyone cares, but a while ago I was wondering in this thread about how replayable is Baldr Sky.
I found something useful. If you go to your save folder and delete the script.dat file, it will reset your "already read text" memory, which is separate from your save files. So you can use your old save where your weapons are maxed and you don't have to grind plus you have quality of life plugins like jumping between routes, but you regain the ability to CTRL through only unread text between routes, especially the copypasted school life reminiscence parts, which makes reading it much more bearable.

Also putting it on very hard makes the game challenging even with maxed weapons. I actually had to restart the first battle event in Rain's route because I put my symicram full of low level weapons to level them up, and got my ass kicked. Enemy hp is increased drastically on hard difficulty.

>>18487166
Be wary many early chapters battles are turned into damage races because of game over when an ally dies so be cautious when you choose to level up weapons. Although there are some fun challenges you could complete without having to backtrack as preventing Gilbert from escaping when he attempts to mindhack you, destroying all the virus during the dominion hq auto-destruction, beating 'immortal' Gregory. I can at least brag of this one on my first playthrough in VH from route 2.

What's a heroine that really stand out in your mind? Even years after

>>18486960
Wow, Japanese coding strikes again.

A simple effect of falling snow takes up 2 full cores and makes my laptop reach around 70 °C.

>>18487489
Nice tits though.

>>18487444
Yeah, I got that one too. I was playing on normal then.
Very hard is actually pretty hard. I lost the battle event early in Rain's route when she lets you practice against some virus next morning. Well, I can change the difficulty anytime and every battle can be easily retried, so if I keep losing because I don't have enough damage output it's not like I can get stuck.

Funny thing is, looking through my completion I'm missing a lot of things, even though I've done almost all the optional stuff. Like when a battle has an obvious secondary objective visible on the scenario chart which leads to an item, I got all of those. Also the unlockable events like Noi's H scene. And all endings of course. I'm missing 12 CGs, 2 H scenes, and only have 187/212 plugins. I have no idea how could I miss so many plugins.
I wonder if they are locked behind survival mode, because I didn't really do that. Or maybe you can get them on the route map here on the picture. I didn't bother unlocking all of these as I read the route conditions on those branches and they seemed to be just slight alterations in the last battles that eventually just lead to the same conclusion. Now that I get the plugin that lets you jump around on the scenario map instantly, I guess I'll unlock every little thing left.

Where is this going?

>>18488604
That's rude, anon. At least you should say, "Where is she going?"

I kinda like this so far. Some minor scenes I didn't really like, including the short little "race" so far, but it's mostly alright.
Kinda funny how at the first day they say that at the next day there'd be school (several times even I think, though I only checked back for one instance), and once the next day arrives it's suddenly Sunday, obviously without school.

The voice actors seem to be somewhat low-budget, or rather the voice actors are mostly doing nukige-ish games. The recording quality itself is fine. Not sure if I can agree with the choice for the black haired girl though. I know that voice actress from a few more mature female roles and I feel that fits her better. I feel like I got a little used to it by now, but still.

>>18484202
>>18484296
is this like the Cation series? Is it just as boring?

>>18488710

Nah.

ASa project new game trial is out, as always, a family slice of life comedy at its finest.

5 routes deep into this game and I'm still constantly amused by what a shithead Maito is.

>>18487462
Misaki from gatenkei

>>18484574

Nice reaction pic.

>>18484707
>>18486105
link to crack?

So I got the bad end in Rance 10 where Kayblis becomes demon king at the end of Turn 6.
Does anyone know what to do to save Miki?

Did anyone watch the Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai anime? How was it in regards to the characters and comedy?

>>18486960
>>18487489
>>18487605
>1 more month

>>18489299

>eating pizza with a fork.webm

Is there any way to make vndb sort by voter rating, instead of the bayesian rating shit

>>18489299
yea i actually watched it after i finished reading it like a year back.
they mashed all the routes together like pretty much all vn adaptations, but i thought it was okay. its nice to have movement for characters instead of sprites and i thought that helped make the comedy better
if you liked the game, it's good to watch it but don't expect it to be amazing or anything

>>18489039
Sadly I'm stuck using alpharom. None of the patches worked for me.

>>18489660
i dont know what alpha rom is but i found this http://www.mediafire.com/file/dx4k10a4yg3tc4l/%5BBBS.2DJGAME.NET%5DEustia+NoDVD.RAR

>>18489039
You can get past the "missing original disc" error by hex editing BGI.exe

@00364675: C3 70 82 to 50 05 84

>>18489805
The game doesn't launch when I try that

Anyone play Itsu made mo Musuko no Mama ja Irarenai? Currently playing the first one and got thrown back by how quickly they jumped on the first h-scene without building up the relationship between the mom and son. The art seemed nice but I'm not sure if the story is up to par.

>Baldr Sky
>combo is great; can basically button mash and hit everything so long as I button mash in the right order
>however, early tier moves
>try to put together some new combos in order to level things up

>first definitely has more DPS when done correctly, but requires nothing short of pinpoint timing
>when I redid the same fight using my mainstay combo, hard as shit fight became a pushover

>second combo; can hit consistently in practice
>think that I've found a replacement
>turns out that when the situation is anything other than "enemy is basically standing still, and I'm moving in a straight line towards them", either the second or third hit misses

The combo system can be pretty moody.

What's the best version of Chiitrans to use?

>>18490687
DJT.

>>18488710
It's like 5 kinetic novels in one package. Once you're past the 10 min long intro, you're locked in the chosen heroine's route, relax and enjoy the 5-hour ride of maximum lovey-dovey vanilla cake with a comedy topping.

/HS8:20@3B7E0:MakingLovers.exe

Note that Japanese locale is not enough, I had to run the game through NTLEAS and hook the process afterwards. To simplify the process, place agth.exe, ntleas.exe and accompanying dll files into the game dir, then create .bat file containing the following:
start ntleas.exe agth.exe A"/C /NH /NS /HXS8:20@3B7E0:MakingLovers.exe MakingLovers.exe"

I just dumped NTLEAS (exe and dlls) and AGTH (exe and dll) into my Windows folder so that they're immediately accessible from any other folder.

>>18489039
https://mega.nz/#!VF40mJCY!CDSz6SLjhrqGhgcp3BpSMHGsdoVt7g4vhVTO4odqZxk

>>18490793
Why not learn Japanese so you don't have to do all this bullshit?

Guess what's out?
>│2D.G.F.│ [180223] [5pb.] かまいたちの夜 輪廻彩声 Windows PC版

Is it good?

>>18491027
TL;DR I don't care enough for that.

I learned the basics, I'm studying the grammar but I'm not putting hundreds of hours to grind thousands of kanji. Text hooking lets me quickly look them up in the dictionaries while I'm actually having fun and I'm content with passively absorbing them as I go.
I'm not exposed to Japanese content (that I'm interested in) enough to justify the effort of learning yet another language just for VNs and video games, and I don't see it changing in the foreseeable future.

>>18491063
I never played the original but the OP of the Vita edition on YT seems to get a lot of hate for looking too "anime" and losing the feel of the original VN.

>>18491118
Understandable that fans of the original would be unhappy, but I'm not one of them and I like Alpha's art.

>>18491132
Yeah, I might give it a try sometime because I also like the look of the art and I like a good horror/mystery story every once in a while.

>>18491027
Pretty sure that game needs ntleas no matter what. Provided you don't have a JP language windows of course. Chances are, if you wanna play that, you gotta go through some messy stuff no matter what.

What I would give for this to be a real VN.

Shame the only thing that kind of comes close is the venus blood or yami no koe series, and even then not really.

>>18491348
looks shitty tbqh

>>18491348
There's a lot of shitty RPG maker games with CG sets that you could play to get that.

>>18491063
>[180223] [5pb.] かまいたちの夜 輪廻彩声 Windows PC版
>[180223] [hibiki works] PRETTY×CATION -ずっと初恋の日々エディション-
>[180223] [HERMIT] 世界でいちばんNG（だめ）な恋 ハピネスモーション

Well if it isn't the day of remakes today.

>>18491394
The month of, Nobody wants to release a game in the same month that Rance X comes out.

>>18491063
>18+
Does it have h-scenes or is it 18+ for violence only like Iwahime?

>>18491404
That's not a thing. Why would games that have been delayed for years get released in this month otherwise? Rance has gameplay anyway, and is very different from your normal VN.
March is different there. March is crazy. The best selling eroge company releases a game, and you still have a buttload of other interesting enough releases happening, aside of a ton of moege which are probably the most likely to just get overlooked given Yuzusoft.

>>18491394
So is this new version of Damekoi just objectively better than the old one? I know Emote can be weird and buggy sometimes.

>>18491525
It's the weird kind.

>>18491533
Which ones, aside of Cation, is actually not weird and/or lazy? I've seen a few tries, but nothing really was too good. If it's at least Nekopara tier it'd still be okay, but even that seems to not really happen.

Big questions in muramasa

This whole arc is hilarious, how did things turn out this way

>can't turn off emote in new Damekoi release
It's shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDHgKWICy5M

What's so bad about this? It's so low key I didn't even notice the Emote.

>every visual novel is an eroge
>not realizing the true patrician taste is horror vns/sns for consoles
>no one talking about Machi
And you call yourselves Otaku

>>18491824
>playing R07 garbage
No thanks.

>>18491387
Oh right I forgot Village of Nightmare, which is actually a masterpeice series.

But still that particular concept is particular good, and Kenkou Cross's art is particularly amazing. If I had fuck-you-money I'd fund him and a team to make it first thing.

>>18484625
>They made Extella and Extella Link even though they don't have to
They made those games because there are crowds of idiots who pay money for anything with "Fate" in title.

>>18491830
>games like Machi, Kyoufu Shinbun, Baroque Syndrome, Omagatoki, Yaku, Maria, Yasoukyouku, and Hayarigami are garbage
>Hayarigami
>garbage
the current state of gaming

>>18491998
Exactly the same like what we play, just with less cute girls, right?

I just started the trial. I think I'm finally getting into the non-boring part now.

>>18492089
I'm interested in that one. Is the game more focused about the sports aspect? Because I don't know anything about planes but the setting is just my type.

>>18492382
Did you avoid 消えた世界's website? It's really a spoiler town. And the OP movie too. I dunno why they're making a seemingly serious mystery yet have thrown spoilers all around.

>>18492382
A review on EGS says that they expected it to be like Aokana with the sport focus but it ended up as a normal charage for the most part.

>>18492390
Sadly, I didn't. I was impressed by the OP and went to their website. I wish I could've avoided visiting the site at least. The character map was too detailed. On Day 6 now, I think shit's going to happen now.
>thrown spoilers all around
Guess they gotta give all the juicy bits because next month's Riddle Joker's release.

>>18492400
That's better then. Sounds like a good time waster.

>>18492511
Once the moon gets red, shit gets real.

>>18492400
So far it looks like that, but who knows. While it seems like the flying and possible races are more for the characters rather than the other way around, that could change at some point. Never read Aokana myself, so I can't compare it. That said, it has been over 5 hours, and the whole FF thingy hasn't even started, the team not even really been established. Shouldn't take THAT much longer, but unless the game is super long, I fail to see how it wants to actually cover all the preparation/training, prelim and main tournament. AND have multiple routes obviously. Unless the main plot remains the same in the routes or something I guess.

What's a good entry point for Mareni?

>>18492976
Either the first railsoft title or Shinju no Yakata. The latter isn't the greatest display of his style because of the ADV box limitations though.

>>18492978
Was thinking of starting with Shinju no Yakata because Romeo's in on it too, but your last point has me leaning toward the former. Thanks.

>>18493121
>because Romeo's in on it too
And it's terrible.

>>18493126
Well, shit. I guess that makes this decision even easier.

>>18493121
Romeo's route was very out of place, both in terms of style and content, and ended up being much worse than the rest of them, so you might want to just skip through it.

>>18493136
>>18493121
While I'm not one of them, a lot of people on EGS actually like the twins route the most, so saying to skip it is very bad advice. The entire game is worth reading and forming your own opinion on.

Kure is objectively a better writer than SCA-自

>>18493636
Agreed. Can't wait for his next game at Yuzusoft. Will he be able to top his masterpiece Nanairo Drops? Maybe not, but I'm sure he will deliver his usual hotblooded chuuni goodness in a satisfying way regardless.

Done with common in hitotsuba. The flying part is really not its strength. The battles are, so far, extremely simple and there's not been put a lot of work into the whole idea either. It's kinda a common issue with these kind of stories, time pressure and just things feeling impossible, but this one got hit pretty hard here. The first training was also against some pretty good team, while they couldn't even really fly in a formation yet. Supposedly that helped them a lot... which is not how this works. If you don't even know the basics and haven't played against some normal people, you don't even understand how and why these supposedly good guys are so good. It's like someone new to a beat em up game trying to go against a pro player there. They will learn about as much as when playing against hard AI. "whoa, I got beaten up and have no idea what happened"

The rest is quite fine. And is luckily most of the VN, even though the whole flying thing became quite a bit more prominent in the last hour or two of common. I also like how you don't choose girls in this. Nope. You choose planes.

>>18491615
Because Muramasa is a 神ゲー.

>>18494202
Vertical text scares me. How hard is this to read in terms of grammar and vocab?

I wonder if Narahara Ittetsu will ever write another VN. It's almost 10 years since Muramasa

Can't tell if I'm getting Nishimata Stockholm Syndrome or if the CGs in Nozomi's route really are just better than the rest of the game. This route is great so far though. They have the best dynamic.

>>18494246
Shut up shut shut up!

>>18494254
It goes to shit right after that if you've read literally
any other route, like best girl Komachi.

>>18491063
>>18491433
there would never be h-scenes on vita
prob they are expecting a CERO Z rating, which doesnt actually mean that much

>>18494251
They're definitely doing something for their 20 Anniversary. Hope they summon Narahara back.
>>18494202
You just get used to it. I myself read it with a texthooker so I didn't have that problem though but now it's pretty normal.

>>18494304
the second bit was meant as an answer to >>18494246

>>18491615
>>18494202
I want to read this since I keep hearing constant praises about it, but I also keep hearing it's super fucking hard to read and understand
should I just wait a year or two for when my Jap is better so I don't ruin the experience?

>>18491394
>>[180223] [HERMIT] 世界でいちばんNG（だめ）な恋 ハピネスモーション
wonder what this means for MG

>>18494314
You are your own person. Do whatever you want. Personally I think it would be for the best if you never posted in this thread again.

>>18494276
Komachi is like a more hyper Naru and I can get behind that characterization.

The Winter sections in this game are uniformly the worst parts of this game but at least they're short I guess, and the endings usually manage to leave me feeling better about the whole thing. But the way everything is unceremoniously taken from you so suddenly never feels... fair? earned?

>>18494314
The answer to questions like this is always "try to read it, if you can't then stop". It's so simple.

>>18494321
>but at least they're short I guess
Because it's basically skipping the whole second half of a route which is damn shame, there's like ten minutes of new stuff in every route after that point and makes you wish the game was actually finished.

>>18494318
Woah. Damekoi has been on my backlog for ages. Did they add anything new with the remake? Is it worth reading over the original?

>>18494314
Play it if you like it.
If you liked Hanachirasu, you will like it.
I found that difficulty is nothing if you really want to read something.
Granted, I read it with a texthooker but still.

>>18494319
>>18494331
yeah, i guess you're right, it's not like it hurts to try it
does the vertical text change anything with hooking, or will ITH still grab it?

>>18494369
Just turn your monitor sideways.

>>18494387
Why not just put your chair on the wall?

>>18494387
If I do that, the letters will appear rotated too, like pointing to the left instead upright.

>>18494366
Are you sure you read it?

Finished Sorechiru. I'm convinced Jackson could do anything and I'd fucking love it. I need to pick up those LNs of his.

Do you guys have certain images of what eroge writers are like IRL in your head? For example, I kind of like to think of Hiruta as being Kisaku (without the rape) in real life.

>>18495168
I do know how the orcsoft writer is. The name of the circle is appropriate.

Is there any reason to play the new version of Pretty x Cation? Is it actually different in any way or just a cash grab?

>>18493133
To clarify, Romeo's portion isn't very good, but the rest of the game is excellent. I was really impressed by both Mareni's and Myougaya's parts. I'd say it's a good intro to Mareni's style and a great read in general, but there's obviously no problem if you'd rather jump straight into his Railsoft stuff.

>>18495168

>>18495791
Is this really him? I can see it desu

What are the best bonuses? So far, I'm finding my self constantly AP starved, so I'm thinking that the extra AP per turn will be pretty useful.

>>18496182
Welp, apparently, the selection isn't permanent and you can change it up anytime. This makes things a lot easier.

>>18496134
It's him. He's older and chubbier now, but still easy to recognize.

anyone know if there is ever going to be a full english patch for Eushully's Kami no Rhapsody?

I know there's an interface patch out, but as a fan of this genre of games who doesn't speak Japanese I tend to rely on more complete patches like the one I fabulously enjoyed for Kamidori Alchemy Meister

>>18496809
yeah I'm making one right now sit tight bro

>>18496809
Wrong thread.

>>18494418
Yes?

MIlfs/hitozumas with animated h scenes, haven't nutted this much within a couple hours since like early high school........

Any more eroge with emote animated h scenes?

>>18496809
Never post here again.

>>18497093
>not vertical
w-what

>>18496809
Ask in the appropriate thread. >>18484838

>>18497292
He's german. He can't speak in vertical japanese.

Does anyone know how good HaruKuru (https://vndb.org/v9198)) is? I heard it had sci-fi elements, and the synopsis makes it seem like there would be a really interesting twist to the whole thing.

>>18497373
oh i'm also curious about Midori no Umi (https://vndb.org/v7238))
if anyone can give their thoughts on either of these, it'd be greatly appreciated. I love these mystery novels where everything seems fine at first but there's a hidden undertone or a twist. Can anyone recommend other novels that have these mystery elements?

>>18497373
It's not bad. Watanabe's humor and characters make it a fun read, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it if you're specifically looking for "sci-fi", since that aspect of it is pretty silly. Less offensive than a lot of bad eroge sci-fi, I suppose, if only for its originality.

But if you're just looking for twists, you probably won't be disappointed.

>>18497410
>Midori no Umi
Avoid, like, it's only decent in the beginning-middle then shits the bed so hard it's amazing.

>>18497247

Besides the rest of ANIM's newer stuff?

>>18497410
>>18497429
Given that I read that recently, I unfortunately have to agree. I couldn't agree with the chapter progression, but even aside of it, I couldn't finish one of the final routes. Till then the failures in the short routes was okay, it wasn't the main point after all. But when things ended up shit outside of that as well, it was too much.
That said, the EGS score isn't half bad. For reason's I don't really know, but it should mean you could still like it. Maybe ask yourself how much you can deal with ignoring problems to progress a story. If you are fine with acting as if there's no issues, even though there really are, and don't mind obvious lying heroines who feel like they belong to some religious sect (without the protag treating her as such, obviously), you might be fine. It's definitely hit or miss.

>>18497373
It's fine. If you wanna read it, just read it. Whatever may or may not happen is part for you to experience in that game. A good Aoba Ringo role should be enough to make it worth playing already anyway.

>>18497410
I liked midori no umi a lot, but it's very short for its scope and doing the routes in the wrong order (which is very easy) can ruin the flow of the game and make other routes feel pointless.

>>18497570
well yeah.

>Chuuni Hime still has literally zero ratings / reviews on EGS

I was really curious how this would turn out, being a new company with quite a bit of veteran staff. I feel like if it was released at any other time it could have been decently popular, considering how good the art is. Rance 10 month claiming another victim...

>>18498427
Speaking of EGS, Rance 10 score is pretty horrible for the series stadnards

>>18498450
Nah it's pretty normal. At every Rance release people complain in the first few hours because each game innovates something new that throws them off. Same thing happened with IX and Quest. Once people actually start finishing the game the score will recover.

>>18497414
>>18497429
>>18497619
>>18497723
ah, I see
well like I said, i'd really appreciate some recommendations for this type of story then, because the only other one I know is like, Himawari

>>18498564
sorry to fill up the thread with this, i'm just sort of typing as i'm finding stuff out. Is Aiyoku no Eustia sort of like this? AB lists it as a mystery

>>18498564

You mean sci-fi stuff? Like with everything, vndb has tags. Same for mystery and, well, more or less everything.

If you just like twists, try Tojita Sekai no Tori Colony. It can be very fun if you want some more freedom than just "one route for each girl" as well.

>>18498564
古色迷宮輪舞曲 might count, but it isn't scifi.

Her eyes are so beautiful.

So, done with Kazusa's (twintail) route in hitotsuba. For all the delays it felt surprisingly unpolished in some way. One lewd scene had her change between clothed and naked several times and I doubt that was how it was supposed to be as it was always with the same expression. Some textboxes were rather different from the voices. Not a lot, but still. As if the text was written for a different character with the voices however being in the correct speaking style. Also the heroine with black hair was finally at normal volume in this route. Over the whole common route she is way too loud. No, you can't change the volume for individual characters.
Aside of the voice volume problem with one character I don't think the issues are too bad. But it still makes you wonder. It's not like I pay massive attention to typos, voices matching and such, so me finding some is usually a bad sign. Oh and the art can be inconsistent. Kazusa's breast-size is all over the place in CG. Unfortunately best seen with ones I kind show, for obvious reasons. So have some flying pancake instead. There are a LOT of CG like this. Can't complain there.

Aside of that, I liked it. The route was not too long, the ero pretty back to back and whatnot, but the drama was okay. I'm also pretty happy that the one and only combat part of this route was actually fine as well. Perhaps even good. A bit of a shame that the enemy wasn't a whole team you got to know and it was mostly focused on one person, but it's okay. Reminded me a little of Saki's later battles (past the initial prelims, once the enemy became actual characters) or the Girls und Panzer battles. It was also a little more than just 2 minutes, which helps.
But yeah. 4-5 hour route with one battle. This isn't really focused on the tournament. Heck, you see one battle, the mattering one for the heroine, here. Not sure if the other routes are majorly different, but I kinda doubt that. It works, if you ask me. But if you want to see something focused on a tournament and the whole journey, this isn't the game for that. The battles are more means for the characters and their stories rather than the focus by itself. In this case a simple "getting over yourself" story. Although I say simple, there are a lot of stories like this that get fucked up somewhere by exaggerating or something, so I'm happy.

>>18499155
Sounds underwhelming.

>>18498648
It's low fantasy and there are twists.

Rance X really comes off as 2 games squished together

>>18499177
Depends on what you want. It's actually not that common for me to approve of a moege route, take that as what you want. Last month none of the released moege came close to this. I at least am not disappointed.
I'll try one more route to see how that compares. I'll be a bit biased, as the common route situation favors Kazusa a lot (sharing a room and is a classmate, as the only heroine) and I like her, but I'm interested enough.

Just finished the trial. So I guess the whole VN revolves around the premise of resetting back time to fix the fuckups or whatever the mystery is. Also like the Kaguya themes being used here and there. My main complaints would probably be that it doesn't have that much good production values so the tense atmosphere tends to sometimes fall flat. And my fears I felt for the suspense/horror aspect of the VN were dispelled as I got nearer to the end of the trial since I finally got to see the baddies. Also don't know if my choices mattered but I don't plan on reading through the trial again.

I guess I'm interested in the full release. I still would like to see how things will end like knowing the truth about the MC's mom or what it was they found deep in the mountain with the whole chuuni brigade.

Did I miss something about the sacrifices? Like why did they target specific body parts?

>>18499155
>The battles are more means for the characters and their stories rather than the focus by itself
Neat. It's what I usually want in charages with a certain theme in it. I'll start reading that next. Mainly interested in pink and white.

>>18497373
A guy I know rated it 3/10. He said it was a nonsense with dull unrealistic characters.
From the description on vndb I feel euphoria vibes, but this guy rated euphoria 7.7 so I guess it's leages ahead of harukuru.

>>18499422
how do you not feel really damn retarded typing this out and pressing submit

>>18499422
I don't think anyone here cares about opinions of Redditors.

>>18499428
>>18499431
Lul, butthurt?

>>18484202
Which route of Making Lovers is best?

>>18499440
It's a moege dude, just pick your favorite girl.

>>18499473
average moebuta driver.jpg

>>18499447
This.
Just know you might not even really meet all the girls in the prologue before getting locked into a route depending on your choices.

>>18499473
Is any Yuzusoft game good?

>>18499503
They're all pretty much the same. If you can handle 3mb of bland moege then they're the games for you.

>>18499117
I remember laughing at the huge gap between her voice and appearance.
Btw was this cracked? Where can I get the crack?

>>18499567
The crack I'm using was posted on girlcelly's forum: https://a.pomfe.co/ecfuxu.zip

>>18499582
Thanks.

>>18498658
yeah it's just the twist portion i'm interested in, i love being blindsided by stuff that changes my perspective on the entire story
i'm guessing vndb has no tag for this though?

>>18499837
Genre shift usually implies some things changing quite a bit. It's a start, though it definitely doesn't catch all of this as not every major twists changes the genre. It's also usually a spoiler, so keep spoiler settings in mind.
Other than that there's no tag for "big twists", as far as I know. There are some commonly known popular games like ever17 or 999 which work like that, and generally mystery and/or enforced route order can easily go into that direction. It's not too uncommon in plotge. The question is usually just: Do you like it? Pic related.

>>18499887
alright, guess i'll just stick to looking into mystery
is the VN from your pic any good? the synopsis makes it sound interesting

>>18497247
It's time.
https://vndb.org/v8731

>>18499887
>>18499929
i should clarify, is it also a mystery/twist-type game?

Never expected a well-written love triangle from Atelier-Kaguya. I guess they really managed to raise their writers to this level.

>>18496182
Extra AP and +1 frame are a must.

>>18500189
That's something to look forward to, I just started it

Anyone read ChronoBox? Is it worth giving a read?
https://vndb.org/v20144

>>18500361
No.

>>18500498
It's not bad. A lot of H-scenes, and it slows down a bit at times, but it's a fun read.

>>18500537
oops, meant to reply to >>18500498 instead

>>18500537
No.

>>18500361
Yes

>>18500537
oh ok
i'm just trying to decide which VN from 2017 I should read first since I took a long break
I've got it down to ChronoBox, Apeiria, Noratoto 2(and the prequel), or Simulacre
if anyone's read the majority of these, how would you rate their quality? They all had high EGS scores so at this point it's just deciding which to read first

>>18500658
Chronobox is fun.
Apeiria relies too much on its humour and the plot is hard to take seriously.
Noratoto's comedy is good and the drama is godawful (which sadly is all the routes).
Simulacre was better as a short game.

>>18500658
why dont you just look them up in the archive or a few reviews on egs instead of asking every single hour here about games while not actually reading anything suggested

>>18500361
It wasn't my cup of tea. The main plot advances quite slow and just throws you bunch of weird shit over and over again that's *mostly* tangential to the actual main story until the final answer parts: one problem is the passive protagonist who never actively does anything of note for most of the game due to his resetting / deteriorating memory, so it makes the entire plot feel like it's just running in place until the game arbitrarily decides it doesn't. I understand what they were going for there but to me it didn't make for very interesting reading and the execution could've been a lot better. You could try playing the first two or so "routes" and decide whether you want to continue based on that (they're pretty short), because that's how the vast majority of the game is going to be like.

I didn't find the payoff and twists that memorable either.
It's also the type of game that dilly dallies between nukige and plotge territory so expect a lot of H-scenes. Think something like euphoria.

>>18500710
>Simulacre was better as a short game.

That's definitely not true. The free version was nothing more than a tease for the full release.

>>18500658
Play Newton to Ringo no Ki.

>>18500710
>Simulacre was better as a short game.

That's definitely not true. The free version was nothing more than a tease for the full release.

>>18500743
Would you rather this or people from djt asking if a novel is too hard to read

>>18501006
I heard Newton was average at best, did i hear wrong?

>>18501126
This is definitely better but ideally neither.

>>18501137
Dude, it's good. Where else are you gonna get a fun premise like that?

>>18501137
why does it have to be either? how does picking one make the other go away?

people just need to not be retarded and use common sense

>>18501137
It's worse than average.

>>18501137
It's good, has a great balance of plot, comedy, and ero, and it has some of the best pacing I've seen in a VN.

>>18501137
It's a mess

>>18501255
>and it has some of the best pacing I've seen in a VN.
It's short, and rushed.

daitoshokan vs clover day's for the better moege?

>>18501661
Is this spam by now?

>>18501661
http://egs.omaera.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/

>>18501584
It's rushed if you wanted a moege. Otherwise it's not. Newrin's biggest weakness actually is that it sold itself pretty badly. You'd expect a dumb moege, go into that game and pretty much get no moege stuff. The romance is "rushed", the sideroutes short and something like dates and whatnot are almost not even there. It also features a few elements that will rub moege fans the wrong way.
For me it was a good surprise. The comedy worked, the story as well and the pacing of the story was absolutely great. It also had a really well done ending. As such I can forgive the "from route entering to I love you in 2 minutes" issue. That's a bigger negative in games where romance plays a bigger role. Side routes are similar. They were pretty nice little what if stories.

Length-wise it's on the shorter side. (a good MB) But so are many Liar Soft games, like steampunk games. Length isn't everything.

Anyone been reading Hitotsu Yane no, Tsubasa no Shita de? The art looks cute

>>18501661
daito

>>18501680
why would you trust the website that gave an 85 to kiniro loveriche? EGS is retarded

is 君が望む永遠 still good? Watching the anime cause im not really in the mood to read 50 hours +of Japanese, and fan translations especially back then i assume are trash.

But if it's like significantly better than the anime(i know the vn is most likely better but yeah) i might actually bother reading it.

Hundreds of years old and forgets that water can conduct electricity while fighting someone who's only way of attacking is shocking you. Even goes so far as to set up the water trap and walk into it all by herself. The fights in this game are dumb.

>>18503992
no

>>18504189
i think i would have hated the vn even more to be honest hate drama like this. Wasted 4 hours on the anime. Literally hate all the main characters in this

>>18504178

Not just the fights. Not just the fights..
You are probably better off just reading Kana's side-story, lament about it missing a lot of stuff and that it should've been twice as long, and then drop it.

>>18504751
I actually did read Kana's side-story before going into chapter 2. I already invested so much time getting this far it feels like a waste to drop it but it feels like a chore to read at this point.

This game is dumb. As expected and wanted.

>>18500189
The stalker stuff was rather well done

So i didn't like kimi ga nozomu eien(the anime anyway, hate that sort of drama.), i hear white album 2 is similar so will i not like that either?

>>18505264
>hate that sort of drama
If you don't like love triangle drama, skip.

>>18505264
Why not learn Japanese before asking about eroge?

>>18505267
Main gripe was the MC not being decisive and Mitsuki opening her legs up for everyone(the ending i actually liked but the amount of drama is physically painful to me, and I dont seem to take gf fucking your best friend to well either.).

I do remember enjoying the 1st white album but that was years ago so with the extended edition or whatever of white album 2 i thought i would ask..

>>18505277
uhh I can read Japanese, i usually read untranslated eroge(read 108 according to vndb not that anyone gives a rats ass) just kimi ga nozomu eien seems really long and as i thought i didn't enjoy it.

>>18505322
First WA has nothing to do with the second. Neither is KGNM similar. No one can tell you what you will like or not, just play it for a bit and see.

>>18505334
guess at the end of the day thats the only real option.

>>18500361
It was alright.

>>18505180
I keep getting an error when I'm in the title screen.

>>18505517
The engine is pretty wonky. Tried fiddling around in cheatengine with some things and it crashes all the time, just by using break points a few times. Chances are, this won't work very well on some setups, though it works for me.

>>18505180
Mind sharing a name? That filename's a bit too obscure for my google fu, and saucenao seems to be down

>>18505657
How new are you?

>>18505657
Learn Japanese and the filename will be enough.

>>18505666
That's not a nice response.

>>18505672
I know it enough to figure it's something like ちゅに姫. However

Just asked for a name, no need to be rude about it.

>>18505678
literally just google the name and vndb behind it you small brain

>>18505678
From now on only post in DJT.

>>18505683
Why are you being a dick when I told you I googled it? I told you it didn't work, just can't believe that or what?

Actually ironically I used Japanese first and hadn't even considered a +vndb search, which again gives totally useless results in any Japanese character set/combination you can think of, +dmm, getchu, etc. It's called a slip of the mind.

>>18505693
Because?

>>18505699
>Because?

Because you're a beginner and a normalfag that doesn't know the word ちゅうに.

>>18505708
wut?

You think I didn't immediately look up Chuunibyou Princess and just find results for Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai instead? Google it yourself. The plain and simple is I neglected to go for the obvious answer (a vndb lookup) in a moment of retardation and instead made it more complicated for myself.

>>18505657
I like to use official abbreviations and the like to make finding stuff easier. In this case it's also the name of the exe. A quick google search for that also gave correct hits. (they are even dls...)
Vndb lacked this alias though, so I added it just now. Sometimes that happens for new games.

>>18505743
>In this case it's also the name of the exe.
Basically figured that from the formatting of the filename, but took the dumbest path possible from that thought process.

>>18505739
If only you knew how Japanese words are spelled.

This is getting pretty meme. I guess I know how her route is going to be?

>>18506205
Is it just chuuni comedy forever or is there some kind of conflict or something else interesting happening?

>>18506582
Don't know where it goes, but it's not 100% comedy. The world most of the heroines come from seems like an rpg and a lot is handled like a joke, but the situation there is actually fairly serious and the princess established how ultimately the hero vs. demon lord is just a matter of view, as the demon lord is just as much of a hero for his people as the normal hero is for humans. So the protag being a hero now, and a demon lord perhaps appearing... isn't necessarily the most fun thing in the world. It's handled fairly nicely, if you ask me.

But yeah, dunno where this goes. That's kinda part of the fun though. Common seems pretty short as well. Already had all choices based on the walkthrough. (There are at most 3 until you enter a route) Could obviously also just be a sign for things being short and incomplete. It WAS delayed a lot.

It's funny how stingy they can be with gaijin even with non-eroge like these.

>>18510013
>they don't even want to give us their free games

>>18510043
Well, these have been pirated for years, but they're so old that it takes way more time leeching from random sites than getting freebies with VPN, and having access to legit digital copies means you can save quite some space on your HDD.

>>18510013
but i'm definitely not behind a VPN or located near asia

>>18510121
That's interesting. I'm in SEA and any free MO doesn't show up on my browsers without a VPN. Where do you live btw?

>>18510157
>Where do you live btw?
pic related. but to be fair if i try to click on anything besides the 2 games for sale i get a 404 error which isn't surprising, though a VPN solves that. from what i've seen nips go out of their way to give the finger to china and korea, but never SEA so i don't know what that's about

>>18510157
>Where do you live btw?
pic related. but to be fair if i try to click on anything besides the 2 games for sale i get a 404 error which isn't surprising, though a VPN solves that. from what i've seen nips go out of their way to give the finger to china and korea, but never SEA so i don't know what that's about

>>18510242
what's that from? the art seems nice

Is Baldr Sky 2 worth playing 1 for? I heard 1 was a lot less good than the 2nd

>>18512078
It's one game.

>>18512121
Oh, are they just considered 2 chapters then?

>>18512192
No.

>>18512078
Just skip to 2, it has a plot summary which gives you all the information you need from 1 anyway so it's fine

>>18512078
Just go with Baldr Sky 4. Best game.

>Baldr Sky
>almost done with Chinatsu's route

I've gotta be honest: I've spent half of the time not enjoying Nanoha's and Chinatsu's routes, simply because I really don't like the heroines. It's made worse by the fact that best girl Rain is ever-present and constantly lusting of Kou, with Kou narrating that he sees Rain as a thorny rose and somehow sees something appealing in the shitstain heroine for that particular route. They should have just made Rain unavailable (as far as Kou knows) and not even brought up the topic.

I'm especially disappointed in Chinatsu, who's route I was looking forward to. Nanoha was boring from the moment that she first opened her mouth, and I never expected to like her, but my opinion of Chinatsu prior to her route was that past Chinatsu was fun, and I really wanted to see how the Chinatsu storyline would unfold. Turns out that she's an unlikable backstabbing cuntface uber-bitch that Kou betrays Rain for (given the differences in their behavior, it's tough to sympathize with anyone but Rain in that trio).

>It was her job!

That doesn't justify her attitude, and it's not even the justification that the story uses. She says herself that it was a mixture of her wanting to become a machine and having petty anger over the fact that Kou didn't burn to death next to her at that party. She acknowledges that it's petty anger, but the fact that there's even a trace of it years later speaks volumes to her character. I don't care what happened to Chinatsu; she's clearly sane enough to process her own emotions. And on top of Chinatsu being a horrible heroine, fuck GOAT. I don't want to side with them.

I probably would have finished this a few days ago if I really didn't like where this is going. I might just start skimming when I get too annoyed, like I did a few times with Nanoha's route. At least I can't see any of the Dive 2 heroines being horrible, whereas Chinatsu always had that potential.

>>18512495

Oh right, current ranking:

Rain = Sora > Aki > Makoto >>>> Nanoha >>> Chinatsu

Goddamn bitch.

>>18512513
See, you are doing it wrong. Just consider Rain as shit, and all is fine.

>>18512529

>lovely blondie
>infinitely loyal and reliable
>ojou
>affectionate like a cat

Diagnosis: Best girl

Her main outfit kinda sucks, though.

>>18512495
It's not really a game you play for the heroines and that doesn't change in Dive2. The best characters are male, and the highlights of the game are how hype the last few chapters of each route gets, which was done very well in Chinatsu and Nanoha routes already. The parts before those last chapters being boring as fuck repetition and weak romance doesn't change in Dive2 either.

>>18512549

No, it's definitely largely character-driven and fairly micro in scale, and the game spends a lot of time focusing on the romantic elements; they're interwoven into the drama.

I would agree that the parts less related to romance have been the segments that I've enjoyed in Nanoha's and Chinatsu's routes (thus, "half the time", and not "all the time"), but that doesn't mean that you don't have to slog through writing that expects you cheer for the boring jealous crybaby and the petty bitch.

>hype

I'm not hype for helping GOAT.

>>18512549
I actually feel the end of the routes are where the game fucks up the most. Almost all villains are ridiculously terrible. And that's where they mostly appear. If it weren't for that, I'd agree. Outside of the actual villain encounters, it's pretty well done. Pretty unfortunate for me.

>>18512546
I like my blondes, but Rain? Nah.

>>18512562
I couldn't disagree more, Baldr is the very definition of a macro game to me. The route structure, the way information is revealed and the game builds up to its finale are the things that make the game stand out. Writing and individual scenes on the other hand are weak and forgettable.
>>18512572
Gregory is cool as fuck, the presence he oozes whenever he is on screen is incredible. Though a good chunk of that comes from the voice actor and music. I mean, how can you hear this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DknNoHW373M and not get super pumped up?

>>18512634
>Gregory
He's actually the reason why I wrote "almost all". It's the only one I liked, from what I've played.

>>18512634
My favorite character

>>18512549
>>18512634

Let's talk about these final chapters of yours.

In Nanoha's route, Kou goes against basically all of the powers that be because his #1 priority is protecting Nanoha. He could have entrusted her to Ark, but he didn't see any point in resolving this mess if it meant Nanoha dying in the process.
In Chinatsu's route, Kou betrays everybody entirely based on the fact that he wants to be with Chinatsu, for whatever fucking reason.
On the whole, Kou does what he does largely to understand himself and his situation. He doesn't want revenge or justice, nor is he fighting without a cause. He wants answers, and these answers include his own history and relation with the people who are important to him. He also wants to protect said important people.

The romance is anything but partitioned off from the action and plot. On the contrary, the romance drives the plot. You can't just not pay attention to the heroines and enjoy the plot.

>macro

Kou isn't liberating nations from the forces of an evil emperor who's hell-bent on turning the world into his personal slave plantation. He's sleuthing around a city, fleeing riots, and protecting his waifu. It's not Atelier Totori or anything, but it's definitely in the lower-middle range of scope.

>>18512078
They're two halves of the same game: Dive 1 has the first three routes and Dive 2 has the latter three. Skipping Dive 1 is like skipping the first half of Higurashi, Umineko, ef or Mushi no Me.
For optimal experience you need to install both Dive 1 and Dive 2, then launch Dive 2. The game should recognize that you have Dive 1 installed as well and ask you to merge the games. Then you can just play through the entire thing through Dive 2.

Summer Pockets OP is out. Song sounds pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyL61qQtHjY

>>18512847
The whole game just reminds me a lot of AIR, in a good way.

Trial's out if anyone cares.

>>18512877
Oh nice, I know what I'm going to be doing today.

>>18512877
Cute hat.

>>18512877
Tell me if it's good. I'm too busy playing GTA III.

>>18513228
Is it good? Can't find it on VNDB or EGS.

>>18513290
Very great, especially modded.

>>18512495
You're in for only more bad times. Aki's route is basically completely identical to Chinatsu's, except that at every point where Kou went "Can't you just explain what's going on?" instead of saying "No," they say "Yes." Frankly, it would've been ten times better if it had been more like the Tsukina route in Force it was originally hinted to be.

After that, you're forced to replay every single flashback, all in a row, all unskippable (unless you turn skip all text on), revealing the big thing that made Sora and Kou fall in love. Spoiler: Magic. Literally magic did it. Then, and only then, you get to Makoto's route, which I thought was the strongest one in the game, even though Makoto herself is quite obviously just as bad as Nanoha as far as useless waifs constantly bemoaning their victimhood go.

How you'll feel about the last Sora/Kuu route depends on your capacity for tolerating chuuni, because it goes straight off the deep end. It probably contains the largest concentration of individual scenes of characters being awesome of all the routes, but it throws out literally all cohesion and sense. AIs are magic. Kou is magic. Kuu is magic. Sora is magic. Believe hard enough and you can travel through time into alternate dimensions to save the world from the evil all-brain.

All these posts about Baldr Sky i have to keep skimming over because i dont want to spoil myself, feels bad
>>18512834
Why would merging them be the optimal experience? Cant you just finish dive1 and then go into dive2?

>>18513642
They're integrated, not separate games. Installing Dive 2 on Dive 1 means you have a single combined game installed.

>>18513658
If i've already played a bit into 1, will i have to restart? Or will it still have my save?

>>18513664
No, yes.

It will force you to import the save.

>>18513664
I switched to Dive 1+2 when I finished the first route. Do it, it keeps your save and you can enjoy the weapon rebalancing (ranged weapons are slightly better), new weapons, etc.

>>18513664
>>18513642
Technically, the way it works is that Baldr Sky Dive 2 contains all the scripts from both Dive 1 and Dive 2.

It does NOT contain all the media files from Dive 1. It accesses the Dive 1 install directory for the ones that don't exist in Dive 2 (eg Voices).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjwJXSZgmwE
kek

>>18513673
>>18513682
>>18513691
Alright thanks, i might try it again, not really sure. Ive been trying to decide which kamige i should play since i havent played basically any i.e. eustia, baldr sky, white album, etc

>>18513739
I wouldn't call Eustia and Baldr Sky kamige. They're both good though, Baldr Sky more so.

>>18513739
Yeah, we know, you've been spamming this thread for the last three days with your uncertainity.

>>18513775
Stop with the contrarian attitude. BS Dive 2 is the third highest rated game on vndb.

>>18513779
Maybe it's an EOP psyop?

>>18513779
sorry, being indecisive is a big issue i have, i'll stop

>>18513862
Just choose 6 things and throw a dice. Or use random.org in some way. I tend to do that, as the backlog is pretty big and just choosing this one thing feels too annoying for me. It's also kinda fun. For new things I don't do that, as there's obviously not that much in a month anyway.

>>18513775
What would you consider kamige then? I was basing it off EGS and vndb scores but i know those can be a bit skewed

>>18514103
https://vndb.org/v4356

>>18514116
this is a much better kamige
https://vndb.org/v7795

>>18514139
this is a kamier kamige
https://vndb.org/v14838

>>18514116
don't use this ironically dude, it's actually a good game

>>18514139
>>18514367
I don't think you guys saw that there's a built-in flowchart.

>>18514367

The blonde version is better.

>>18514367
This actually looks kinda cute.

>>18484707
are all of the secondary heroines 'routes' just 30 minutes of tacked-on badly written sex scenes, or is there anything outside of the main story that's actually worth reading?

>>18514792
There's a nice extra after you finish the game.

>>18514792
All of the heroine routes are bad, yeah.

>>18513627
Honestly, I find that Baldr is unrealistic for not being magical -enough-.

An AI capable of sustaining those expansive, detailed, and active virtual realities would definitely be capable of recursively self-improving and undergoing an intelligence explosion. Such an AI would quickly become so smart that the combined intelligence of all humanity ever to live would be negligible by comparison, and it could use that mind to do shit so magical it would make the highest of fantasies look weak.
The fact that Baldr is in that limbo-like state between paradise and dystopia despite having such powerful AI really throws me off.
A realistic Baldr game would either not exist because the super AI deemed humanity a hindrance to its operations and purged them, or be some sort of futuristic moege where the super AI acts like a benevolent God and people don't know the meaning of the word "problem."

>>18515357
What is intelligence anyway? It's easy to say "magic would happen" if something is super smart, but would it really?

Usually you would consider someone smart who is capable of solving problems in an optimal predefined way (as in every problem has a clear best solution) and detect connections between problems and solutions. Nothing can come from nothing. This is where the whole common "humans are bad for everything, let's wipe them" trope comes from. If you look at things flatly, humans hurt a lot. Nothing intelligent here. A dumb computer program can conclude that, given enough data and the task to detect what is the most "harmful".
So, how can you even maximize intelligence? It's mostly capped by the actual data. A really intelligent human can solve and connect everything in a very small environment. Think puzzle games. If you can 100% solve a puzzle game, you possess 100% intelligence for that game. The world however is way more complex. To the point analyzing everything is a tremendous task. So the first thing you'd need isn't something as intelligent as a human. What you'd need is a machine with a massive data throughput, something to measure EVERYTHING (what is everything in the first place?) and then really really good processing speed. I'd even argue, you don't need super good AI in the first place and that it'd not be able to do a lot more than a really intelligent human can with a super pc. Perhaps less errors in the initial configuration would happen, but you can leave a lot of routines to the computer, given enough data.

Of course, that's just my view on this. But basically, I don't think that intelligent AI would really change the world that much. Without the means to understand more than we do, it'd not be able to do anything else either. If you ask me that is.

>>18515357
It's called suspension of belief. It's a scifi story.
Personally I really enjoyed all the cheesy parts of the story.
Even the very first scene made my heart go racing with awesomeness where you rushed to blow up the jammer drone and jump off the building to log out mid-air.

>>18515622
Suspension of disbelief

>>18514792
I wouldn't know, I didn't do any of the side routes.

>>18515357
Hiei keeps using the magic as an excuse for writing himself into a corner, and can't even figure out a way for it to not come off as total bullshit. Nanoha's good ending is the most egregious example. It quite literally has characters say "Wow, we were saved by an inexplicable miracle. Let's not question it." That is absolute bullshit. Likewise, it spends four goddamned routes obliquely referring to some kind of major event that caused Sora and Kou to fall in love, when again, it turns out to just be magic. It's hard to even get into the sci fi side of it because it keeps totally misusing sci fi references and fucking up programming terms. It's in desperate need of an editor more than anything else.

>>18515622
It becomes a lot less cool when you realize it's a copy paste of Baldr Force's prologue.

>>18515641
Oh yeah, that.

>>18515815
I played Force after Sky. It was fun, but overall I was underwhelmed a bit by the last route. I expected something as big of a story twist as Sky's multiverse. It was a bit shorter and less repetitive since the flashbacks were much shorter, but the story twists were weaker too.

>>18514811
alright, thanks. Guess I'll skip through the side-stories for the extra. Here's to hoping it's a metal gear-tier post-credits plot twist.
The Fione one was absolutely atrocious. I think the writer even hoodwinks the fact that it's way out of line in the true progression of the story, in which she's the one who kills her brother, in which Kain narrates that if she hadn't done that herself she would have probably collapsed into a co-dependent husk of her former self. Which is exactly what happens if he takes care of it for her. She just starts acting completely out of character and becomes his stay-at-home waif within 3 days without any romantic buildup to speak of.

>>18515849
I played Force first and it definitely colored expectations, especially Aki and Ark's entire deal, which was as big a disappoint as things came. I won't defend Renn's route as being strong (Bachelor, Tsukina, and Lian's were all better), but I despised the multiverse shit in Sky. I had figured out something like that was going on, hoped for some kind of clever twist on it, but nope.

Force has different issues, but I think it was the stronger game overall. It's pacing was pretty awful, in that it moved way too fast in places, unlike Sky moving glacially. The entire game is only a little longer than Rain's route in Sky, thanks to not having tens of thousands of lines of mandatory dorm visit time, present and flashback.

Not sure what you're talking about with flashbacks in Force though, as there are virtually none. Or the twists, honestly. Neither game had much in the way of twists, at least that weren't revealed hours, if not entire routes, ahead of time.

>>18515902
>Kain

>>18515913
Fugg, I know why I did that. Fiona is yet another Saber clone. Actually, now that I think about it, this is the exact same thing that bothered me with Arthuria's relationship with Shirou. It's like no one knows how to write good romance for this personality type. More specifically, they have no idea how to bridge the gap from 'person attempting to embody an ideal/self-identified warrior of justice' to real human bean, so the way it's resolved boils down to 'she realizes she's weak, her ideals are stupid and wants to depend on a man'.

>>18516003
>Fiona
I have no excuse for this one though

>>18515911
We've created virtual immortality.
It's only for the ultra rich and powerful who have to hand over everything to us to get in on it.
TWIST! It's actually for everybody for free, we were just worried about looking suspicious,
so we acted extra suspicious.

Ark and Seira were pretty dumb.

>>18516031
Quite sure they were acting shady in order to protect the wealth they got from the bigwigs they immortalized. Wired ghosts had no human rights, after all, and they couldn't tell what the globalists would've done if they found out that they were physically dead, so Ark had to keep them a secret while they used their money to fund and complete the Ark Project and make it capable of anchoring many people at once.

>>18516031
Can you even prove if a wired ghost has consciousness, or it's just a software emulation of a human? There is a pretty big reason to do this kind of research quietly, as if it turns out that the "soul" doesn't live on or doesn't exist, you're basically a murderer.

>>18515498

>falling for every retarded narrative spun by the Marxists in an effort to get people to oppose capitalism after their claims of being the humanist approach to economics fell apart
>there can be no objective truth, man; that's why nobody can really understand why somebody might be poor, violent, or otherwise destructive towards themselves and others, man
>we need to dispose of evil economic freedoms, man; a centralized power that gives out orders at gunpoint is totally going to be more benevolent than a guy who's trying to figure out how to sell you something that you want, man (please temporarily disregard what I said earlier about there being no objective truth when it comes to MY agenda, man; economic freedom is evil)

AI most definitely would wipe out humanity if it were built by an anti-humanist like yourself.

Ask yourself: How many times were we supposed to have faced a doomsday scenario by now according to the environmentalists? It never comes, because during the times where they're not just outright wrong an impending crisis, which is often (acid rain is the big one), human ingenuity marches on. Groups like the Sierra Club and EPA have a conflict of interest; if the world isn't caught up in doomsday hysteria, they don't get paid, and the government loses a valuable road to grow its own size and power.

As a nation's wealth develops under capitalism (here's your homework for the day, lefty: what is wealth? Hint: it's not a magical vault that always has 500 gold bars, no more, no less, to be distributed among the entire population, which is how the left seems to envision wealth), their methods inevitably become cleaner and more efficient. The path to sustainable human civilization is to not do anything to obstruct the march of technology, including crippling the market with constant government interventions. Also, if you want to talk about protecting the environment, humans are the only thing that could conceivably do something like push away an asteroid or figure out a way to stop the sun from engulfing the planet in the far future.

In before mods delete the non-lefty humanist political post while leaving the lefty anti-humanist political post up.

>>18516251
>>18516319
Yeah, I read that one line throwaway excuse too.

It was just as flimsy then as it is here. Even before you get to Sora's route where the answer is straight up given as an inarguable yes.

>>18516358
I guess if you try really hard to debunk the game and poke at every plot hole, you won't really enjoy sci-fi.

>>18516358
Not really seeing why "let's hide this shit since it might get us sued" is flimsy, but all right, you do you, mate.

>>18516337
[angry lobster noises]

>>18516337
While the content of your post isn't bad and I understand your desire to talk about it, it has nothing to do with the post you replied to.

>>18511170
https://vndb.org/v18577
unless you go to japan and buy it you'll probably never play it

>>18516473
Or just buy it online like a sensible person?
https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/186043754001

>>18516337

I accidentally left out a vital part of this post when I restructuring it: One of those things that used to bother me back when I was on the left is the narrative of evil rich people envisioning or simply not caring about living in a smog-covered shit stain of a city. They have to work and reside in the same city as everybody else. It's not like there's some magical forcefield technology that traps smog in the ghetto while all of the rich people get to breath clean air.

The reason why this didn't seem to make sense to me back in the day is because it DOESN'T make sense. Actually, it makes even less sense when you consider what makes rich people rich in a capitalist system, which is selling things to customers who also don't want to die of lung disease while waiting for the planet to turn into a wasteland.

The big polluters of the planet at the moment are India and China, which are both under-developed economies.


>>18516445

>This is where the whole common "humans are bad for everything, let's wipe them" trope comes from.

This comes from Marxists who lost the humanist economics debate and have switched to doomsday fearmongering and anti-humanism as their new platform for why we need to be pathologically altruistic.

>the world is too complex for a human to solve

This one's up in the air, but the postmodernists' efforts to convince people that no amount of data could ever get us to an understanding of human civilization in any case where the conclusion that any rational, non-possessed person would reach from looking at the data opposes the leftist narrative is why you see progressive hipsters across the western world spouting this shit all the time.

I suppose that there's enough ambiguity in his post as to where his own personal views are that I might be wrong about him, though.

>>18516493
interesting, last time i checked they didn't have it, just the trial cd

>>18516473
>buy
笑止

Just started playing Otoboku 3 and the protagonist stopped being voiced after the first dialogue choice, is he not fully voiced? A real shame if that's the case.

>>18516614
Really? I remember he was fully voiced in the trial.

>>18516376
>>18516396
>poke at every plot hole

Are you shitting me? It's a central conceit of the game that Ark is free to do whatever shit they want because they're a super corp. Dominion runs free in the city because of how corrupt everything is. The rich part of the city that is completely cut off from everything else and fed nothing but propaganda.

And, let's remember how the whole thing was introduced. Chinatsu was wandering around doing administering sentiency tests.

So yes, it's flimsy bullshit.

>>18516900
Obviously they can't just do anything they want, considering how the global military comes to kick everyone's ass.

>>18516917
And yet, that's exactly what they did.

>>18516920
Ark would have been rekt too if not for Kou killing half of the army on his own.

>>18516938
Like they were rekt when he did the same to them?

Baldr Sky's writing falls apart the moment you take a critical look at it, macro or micro. Enjoy the cool moments, when they come in between the flashback, harem, and mandatory timeout bullshit.

We need more VNs on switch, dudes. I just got one.

>>18516900
Being the pioneers of 2nd gen tech, Ark certainly has tons of power and with it, freedom.
That allows them to get away with tons of shit, sure, but there's still a limit and lines they can't cross.
They're already in a pretty tight spot due to AI going haywire, Mother self-terminating, the rumors that they're using stolen military tech, and the general public negativity regarding 2nd gens.
Openly dabbling in wired ghosts — a thing so Dominion-like — would have them fried by Gungnir before the game even started.

What's the deepest, most esoteric eroge you can think of? Something that really gets the brain juices flowing

>>18518137
https://vndb.org/v7754

>>18518137
sakura no uta

>>18518137
https://vndb.org/v7272

>>18516827
He's voiced at the beginning, but then it just stops all of a sudden.

>>18518137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Ij5R6GjxM

It's anti-chuuni wrapped in a Megaman/Magical Girl/Phoenix Wright wrapper. Give up on your dreams, you can't change reality. Face your problems and stop trying to use magic to escape from them. Shit happens. Deal with it.

>>18518592
I've been mening to play this for a long time, how's the gameplay itself?

>>18518612
Bad, but also minimal. It's not like Yumina where there's big dungeons and grinding and shit. There's practically nothing but the boss fights, and no big skill sets or anything like that.

It also has parts that are similar to Phoenix Wright where you 'debug' a period of time to figure out where reality got fucked up. Those are much more interesting, although still less involved than even the early Phoenix Wright games, but you're trying to do a similar thing; find inconsistencies in what you're observing, which opens up more information until you get to the core thing. That's also where almost all of the random H scenes with side characters come in.

I will warn you that while I like the core conceits of the game, it's a very slow start. It picks up once you start getting into the meat of things, but it takes a while, and I was still pretty lukewarm on it until the twist/reveal at the end of the initial route, which really reframes the rest of the game. It's not a feelgood game though. I think it's well worth reading, if for no other reason as it's a pretty good alternate take on chuuni stuff, but I can fully understand both dropping it early on, as well as coming out of it feeling rotten about it.

>>18518137
Saihate no Ima especially Fueko's route.

>>18516537
I'm talking about this from a computer science point of view.

Think about it. You have a puzzle game. What separates a dumb person from an intelligent person clearing the game? Speed. Nothing but speed. The intelligent person will discover connections between elements and doesn't need to rely on trial and error nearly as much as the dumb person. However, given enough time both will clear the game.
Any problem in our world is the exact same thing. What is the solution is up to debate, but that goes away from intelligence. It's always depending on the viewpoint. Thus my claim that you don't need super intelligence. That wouldn't be able to do much more than humanity can anyway, given our current data and processing speed caps. You need super processing speed and data bandwidth as well as enough data. Speed has been everything for a while now. Our technology and knowledge were improved a lot by the ability to do things FAST, with computers. Also by gathering more and more data. Which research could work without computers nowadays?
For example, you can definitely argue that P=NP (problem complexity classes in computer science) could be solved by an intelligent AI, but you can also argue it can't be. Depends on how much you trust humans. There's no way to proof that's not the case, that's the only thing which is definitely true. (As there's no limit of problems in P or NP, which there'd need to be if you wanted to proof that P!=NP) However, if you are just fast enough you no longer care about efficiency anymore. Efficiency means intelligent solutions. Solutions to problems in NP are slow, can't do anything about it, no matter how intelligent you are. You can at most approximate or try to be fast on average. (one reason why your passwords should be in certain defined ways, so that "intelligent" tries to guess it won't help) As such, intelligence is just not the important factor when it comes to revolutionizing the world. Probably. Unless something like P=NP could be solved, which is just an easy example of big questions that could change the whole world if solved.


It's all just theories though. Intelligence has done a lot for our world, so it's fine to assume a super intelligent AI could do a lot in this world. But I do think the other way around of looking at this is fine as well. Intelligence alone won't do that much any more. We need to look at so much data that speed is becoming more and more important. New discoveries done by humans without the help of fast computers is close to unthinkable. Intelligence is just a shortcut. It makes things a little faster. Perhaps a lot faster. Perhaps there's something we simply overlooked the whole time. Or maybe there isn't and super AI isn't doing anything else than humans either, just a little faster. Perhaps that's a little boring of a view, but I think it has it's own charm as well. In the end of the day, we probably won't create a literal god who will surpass its creator. For better or worse.

>>18519197
>There's no way to proof that's not the case, that's the only thing which is definitely true.
What is "definitely true" supposed to be? Either there is a proof for what you are saying, which would mean your statement is true, or not thus it's just an assumption.

>However, if you are just fast enough you no longer care about efficiency anymore.
If you're fast enough, you will try to solve problems with larger N and immediately need efficiency again. That's why people look at asymptotics in the first place.

>>18519197

>What is the solution is up to debate, but that goes away from intelligence. It's always depending on the viewpoint.

There are a few relative universals that most sane people can agree on.

Good for oneself and one's tribe:

Enough wealth to live in comfort and afford mild luxuries; no poverty
Freedom to live a fulfilling life and pursue one's goals
Health and safety
A social and financial network of support for when times get rough

Even the environmentalists who accept that a huge portion of the human population will die horrible deaths at a young age at the hands of their plans don't imagine THEMSELVES starving to death in the crumbling ruin of a rotting building, or they imagine it in some sort of abstract movie-like fashion where a heroic character who looks like them and shares their name bravely starves to death for the greater good while they observe from the outside.

If you start from that point, you can begin finding objective answers for how to best structure society so that the largest number of people can be happy in the long term. We have plenty of data about how to create wealth and destroy it, where criminal tendencies come from, and how to create stable relationships, as well as a decent trail for how to continue deepening our understanding of all of these issues. Humans aren't as unique as we like to think of ourselves as, and what will and won't work for any particular problem (assuming that your goal is in line with the above) is not just up to one's subjective opinion.

In other words, if AI could better understand ambiguity, it could very well be used for something like an ideal government or an ideal educator. The biggest problem here is that the designers would need to have truth as their highest priority, and that certainly doesn't describe the environment at Silicon Valley at the moment. On the contrary, they're the ones who are spearheading a movement to stop the free flow of information and return power to gatekeepers who decide which information the public gets to hear.


>unintelligent person will solve the puzzle

No, by they time they solve one part of it, they'll have forgotten the last part, and will subsequently lose track of the plot altogether. Some people are completely untrainable for anything beyond simple repetitive tasks. We're talking "several months to learn how to ship a box at a warehouse" levels of stupidity here. You could give them a decade to solve a calculus problem, and they wouldn't be able to do it.

all this talk about intelligence and im over here jacking off to nukige

>>18519552
you're probably the most intelligent here.

Is there a way to make translation aggregator display kanji meanings and readings the way it works for rikai-chan? Don't want to use vnr for it, because there's no way to make the pop-up window disappear when you stop hovering over the text, and having it stick around for three seconds every time is annoying af.

>>18520014
I don't know. I know Japanese, so I don't have to use crap like that. You should probably ask in DJT where people like you congregate.

>>18520019
you okay there?

>>18519552
I propose that all braindead advocates of nukige and ero in eroge should be exiled from this thread.

Is 手垢塗れの堕天使 cracked yet?

So I downloaded ドＳなＯＬ女王様 but nothing happens when I run the exe. Anyone got this to work?

>>18520437
I don't know. I know Japanese, so I don't have to read crap like that. You should probably ask in DJT where people like you congregate.

>>18520457
You sound really butthurt, Mr. Intermediate Learner.

Are AXL fantasy games good? They announced a new one.

blog.livedoor.jp/insidears/archives/52784185.html

>>18520486
eh, it was more of a spur of the moment thing than anything else. also
>didn't respond with 'you okay there?'
missed opportunity right there

>>18520501
Not really, which is a shame because I really like their weird art. Koitate is their only good game.

>>18520526
>I really like their weird art

But the eye gap is huge.

>>18520393
Yes, a week ago, check girlcelly's torrent thread at a-s

>>18500189
I can't find this anywhere on Atelier Kaguya vndb page. Spoon feed me.

>>18520843
That's Atelier Sakura. Atelier Kaguya currently seems to be dead.

>>18520843
>>18520869
Found it. Thanks

#metoo

Is this really possible in real life? (Unsafe pic of Yuuna from onii chan daisuki.)

>>18521472
What is possible? Molesting someone without waking them up, or putting a finger through a hymen without breaking it?

>>18521553
Yes.

>>18521553
Both, to be honest. And doing both at the same time. But now I realize it's a somewhat stupid question. Sorry. It's just that I feel like I learned almost everything I know about women's physiology from eroge, and I just wanna make sure I get things right. (For science's sake, not because I will touch a woman.)

>>18521631
Hymens have a hole of them so menstrual blood can leak out. The size of the hole differs from girl to girl. Sometimes it's not even one small hole but 2-3 tiny holes next to each other. There's also condition called an imperforate hymen which is completely grown in and doesn't even let menstrual blood out, which will lead to cramps when the blood keeps accumulating, and eventually has to be popped surgically. But I digress. Depending on the size, you can easily put a finger through it without breaking the hymen, and most virgins can use tampons too, but sometimes it's a bit painful. You can even slowly stretch out the hole and basically slowly take someone's virginity over months without actually tearing the hymen.

>>18521666
Interesting, thanks.
You seem to be pretty knowledgeable on this subject.

>>18521666
Thanks dude. I've become more aware of anatomy and the human body since starting to learn Japanese, and you've proved to me again that it's a pretty fascinating subject.

^ actual autists

Chuunihime ended up being amusing mostly in the common route, which isn't exactly long. I wouldn't consider it bad, but it didn't really do anything. Art is very inconsistent and not too good, backgrounds are cheap 3dcg (even in CG), soundeffects seem to be just missing, no pv/op, ending credits are just on a black background. Felt like a game from 15 years ago. Length-wise as well. I don't think it's much longer than 1mb.

Kinda unfortunate. The cast was really nice and there were definitely interesting themes which could've been explored. Not sure if they just didn't because of delays or what happened. It doesn't really feel like anything was cut or things stopped midway. But it sure feels like wasted potential.

>>18518137

https://vndb.org/v21176

God she's cute.

>>18522432
Thanks, I'm getting this. Finally a self insert game for an ojisan like me.

I really like these little text effects.

New
>>18522870

nice pun

>>18499473
oh...

>>18520055

>>18520014
try chiitrans? its more responsive

>>18524286