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You time is up /jp/.

Any last words?

>> No.18335041
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18335041

Mmmyes, and you call it cookie despite the fact it is obviously touhou.

>> No.18335042

>>18335034
Pull the trigger. I’m done

>> No.18335046

Explain cookie before I die

>> No.18335052

>>18335046
Ironic touhou counterculture that sprang up around some shitty voiceacted videos.

>> No.18335063

>>18335034
Fantasy Heaven

>> No.18335066

>>18335052
You should of just killed me then

>> No.18335102

Why would remu use gun when paper thrown from her hand can break rocks?

>> No.18335198
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>>18335102
please respond ;_;

>> No.18335210
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>>18335198
Too much effort. A gun is quick, easy, and effective.

>> No.18335222
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>>18335210
Think of the price of the bullet stupid baka.

>> No.18335310
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Haaa. Now I'm annoyed for some reason, I need a smoke break.

>> No.18335564

Is this Touhou? (ignorance)

>> No.18335734
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>>18335564
Yeah. (deception)

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32612496

>> No.18335793
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chart anon! please, grace us with your wisdom once more!

>> No.18335926 [DELETED] 
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I DID IT. Posted by: Shitty hentai construction worker (August 16 (Wed) 07:14:22)

Yesterday on August 15, the three of us, the usual old bum (60 years old), a dirty fetish workman (45 years old), who sent me an E-mail the other day day, and me (53 years old), enjoyed having a threesome under the riverbank in the northern part of Okayama.
Because the next day was a holiday, and the place was quiet, there was nothing to prevent us from getting high. So we went to a convenience store to buy alcohol and some snacks. After boozing up, we started to fuck each other. While licking our cocks, we took off all clothes except jika-tabi, so that we could give ichijiku enemas to each other.
After a while, I felt my anus twitching, and there was shit churning in my stomach in search of exit. Tasting the workman's anus, with my hip on the old bum's head, he suddenly spewed his shit into my mouth. With that start, me and the old man also gushed out. My face was completely covered with shit. Spreading our shit onto our bodies, sucking our shitty dicks, giving enemas with our pee. Ahhh~~ that really hit the spot!
You know, it felt insanely good to give enemas again after playing around a bit. It felt so good to thrust my cock into the bum's ass, the combination of pee and shit worked very well. The workman was also fucking the old bum. He thrusted his cock into the bum's mouth and shaked his hips skillfully. While scraping-off the old man's shit-covered cock, I ejaculated with all my might. From that, we spread some more shit onto each others' bodies, sucking our shit-covered cocks like mad, and I came twice with macho semen. I want to do it again.
It's true, having group sex while covered with shit is amazing. Why don't you play with me, an old pervert?
AHhhh~~ I can't wait to become covered in shit again.
If you are able to contact us in nothern part of Okayama, welcome aboard! I'm 163*90*53, the old bum is 165*75*60.
Whoever loves to fuck while being covered by shit, send me an E-mail ASAP.
Let's put on work clothes, give enemas to each other and do it with lots and lots of shit.

>> No.18335945
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I DID IT. Posted by: Shitty hentai construction worker (August 16 (Wed) 07:14:22)

Yesterday on August 15, the three of us, the usual old bum (60 years old), a dirty fetish workman (45 years old), who sent me an E-mail the other day, and me (53 years old), enjoyed having a threesome under the riverbank in the northern part of Okayama.
Because the next day was a holiday, and the place was quiet, there was nothing to prevent us from getting high. So we went to a convenience store to buy alcohol and some snacks. After boozing up, we started to fuck each other. While licking our cocks, we took off all clothes except jika-tabi, so that we could give ichijiku enemas to each other.
After a while, I felt my anus twitching, and there was shit churning in my stomach in search of exit. Tasting the workman's anus, with my hip on the old bum's head, he suddenly spewed his shit into my mouth. With that start, me and the old man also gushed out. My face was completely covered with shit. Spreading our shit onto our bodies, sucking our shitty dicks, giving enemas with our pee. Ahhh~~ That really hit the spot!
You know, it felt insanely good to give enemas again after playing around a bit. It felt so good to thrust my cock into the bum's ass, the combination of pee and shit worked very well. The workman was also fucking the old bum. He thrusted his cock into the bum's mouth and shaked his hips skillfully. While scraping-off the old man's shit-covered cock, I ejaculated with all my might. From that, we spread some more shit onto each others' bodies, sucking our shit-covered cocks like mad, and I came twice with macho semen. I want to do it again.
It's true, having group sex while covered with shit is amazing. Why don't you play with me, an old pervert?
AHhhh~~ I can't wait to become covered in shit again.
If you are able to contact us in nothern part of Okayama, welcome aboard! I'm 163*90*53, the old bum is 165*75*60.
Whoever loves to fuck while being covered by shit, send me an E-mail ASAP.
Let's put on work clothes, give enemas to each other and do it with lots and lots of shit.

>> No.18335999

>>18335034
Sanae is better.

>> No.18336047

KONNA MONO

>> No.18336516

>>18335034
shoot straight you bastard you don't want to cock this up; and yes I did enjoy the film Breaker Morant.

>> No.18336628
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>>18335210
Kofji's alternate designs and outfits for the Touhous in Thanksgiving were genuinely very good. She's a great artist

>> No.18336827

>>18335034
*sigh*
ZA WARUDO!

>> No.18338823
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<span class="sjis">I can't see when i'm japanese 草[/spoiler]

>> No.18340707

>>18335034
Yes, just three.

>> No.18340715

>>18335034
Safety’s on, dipstick.

>> No.18340744
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>>18340707
Okay... moving on..

>> No.18340764

>>18335041
Why does only the top half of the steamed ham have a bite mark

>> No.18340799

>>18340707
>>18340744
Do you still have the link to the sketch?

>> No.18340804

>>18340799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZC8QtwzlRA

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>>18335034
Who you callin' pinhead?

>> No.18342074
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Χρειάζεται περισσότερη πυρομαχικά...

>> No.18342608
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>>18342074
По-русски пиши. Ни хрена же не понятно!

>> No.18346449
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I did it.

I didn't have to end this way /jp/, but I had no choice.

>> No.18346866

( ◜ ▿ ◝ )

>> No.18346929

>>18346449
-she says to Eiki after being muda'd to death
Hey. It ain't my fault. You asked if there were any last words, not me. But hey, I can't die normally anyway.

>> No.18346945

>>18346929
Hey, that rhymed!

>> No.18346954

>>18346449
0/0
Didn't have a moot.

>> No.18347114
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>>18335034
You sucks Reimu and you ain't even a vampire.

>> No.18347136
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>>18342608
>Slavic Reimu

>> No.18347356

>>18346449
wwwww

>> No.18347558
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YOUR SOUL IS MI-

>> No.18348475

>>18335945
dover

>> No.18348715
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>>18347136
Slavic Reimu is the best Reimu.

>> No.18349228

cookie is declining

>> No.18349597
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>>18349228

>> No.18349688

>>18349597
What does the right ranking determine? I find it hard to believe Gachimuchi is third in anything with how much popularity it's lost.

>> No.18349701

>>18349688
well, there were IWF2017 and Aka-san reveal recently

>> No.18349928
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>>18349688
>>18349701
It's just this month's rank. Left is the amount of videos (by tags I believe), right is their total points. Gachimuchi got third this month point wise cause of IWF2017.

Here is all of Last year.

>> No.18349941 [DELETED] 

>>18349928
Oh I forgot to mention, these are 音MAD specific videos.

>> No.18349958

>>18349928
This are 音MAD specific videos.
> this month's rank
*Last month's

>> No.18350015

>>18335034
>You time is up
Joke's on you, it's always me time.

>> No.18351800

>>18346449
Thank you for your hard work anon!

>> No.18352098
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>>18346449
You little shit

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>>18352098

>> No.18357437
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Which do you like more, Easter or Thanksgiving?

>> No.18357498

this cookie stuff makes no sense whatsoever. it seems to have almost nothing to do with touhou except for the character designs

>> No.18357541

>>18357498
It's like your average fan video/doujin but they are self aware and completely dropped the pretension of being related to Touhou on any way.

I find it funny that people talk shit about Cookie not being Touhou but don't care about the thousands of doujins where the Touhous have F cups and get raped by fat men.

>> No.18357582

>>18357498
The thing that makes no sense to me is when someone posts an image of Reimu doing something and then when you're like "Reimu has a gun" Cookiefags come in angry that you're not familiar with it being this very specific voice actress of Reimu from some fan animation.

>> No.18357601

>>18335034
Joke's on you shrine maiden

I'm a very masculine fairy
>respawns behind you
>disarm and hold at gunpoint
Now take me to Yukari so I can present your useless head to her

>> No.18357662

>>18357582
I do that as a defense mechanism whenever it's some lewdposter retard posting it. If you're gonna be pseudoroleplaying the least I can do is letting you know that's not Reimu's feet you want to stomp you, it's BNKRG

>> No.18357977

>>18357662
literally who

>> No.18358877

>>18357662
I want BNKRG to step on my pathetic dick while calling me a pig

>> No.18359004

>>18357541
Reimu with tits getting raped is still a representation of Reimu. Cookie fan art is essentially of original characters who happen to look like Touhou ones. It's like making Sonic purple and giving him an earring. It is just Sonic with purple fur and an earring on one hand, but on the other hand it's also the creator's avatar and it'd be silly to associate it with Sonic in general.

This though. >>18357582

>> No.18362420

>>18359004
t. someone who has never seen cookie

>> No.18367640

>>18335034
Is this what would happen if Reimu and Nevada-tan had a baby together?

>> No.18369135

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

>> No.18373105
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>> No.18373124

>>18373105
So many neat details, great pic

>> No.18373276
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Maru is best girl, all arguments are invalid. None of the other girls can touch her.

>> No.18373312 [SPOILER] 
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>>18373276
nah, web is better

>> No.18375534

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32522694

>> No.18376961

>>18373105
>do what must be done.
Ran Ran.... RUUUUUU~! *Shitty over budget animated and useless transformation* *cliche glowing eyes*

>> No.18378862

>>18340764
>>/x/

>> No.18386343

>>18378862
do it properly

>> No.18386433
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no moriré Raimu!

>> No.18386818

>>18373312
Why do I have a really bad feeling about this picture?

>> No.18386850
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>>18335034
yes. bacon-wrapped hot dogs.

And "boobs."

>> No.18388983

>>18373276
are you implying she could take on KNN?

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>> No.18394070

>>18390574
what the fuck

>> No.18394216

>>18390574
me on the right

>> No.18394343
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>>18359004
>It's like making Sonic purple and giving him an earring.
I wish it was that different, it's more like giving Sonic an earring and slightly different eyebrows. Most Cookie characters are indistinguishable from the character themselves, accounting for artstyle differences because ZUN's art is awful and can't be used as a baseline. Some of them are recognizably different enough, but the only thing that separates most Cookie characters from regular Touhou characters are specific VAs and delusion.

>> No.18396199

>>18394343
Some artists have made some really great designs, it’s just that the more popular ones are super generic.

>> No.18396624
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Some /jp/ posters decided to go a karaoke bar and have some fun! (゜∀゜).

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32730414

>> No.18397181

>>18396624
COAT truly is the Catalina Video of Japan

>> No.18397602

>>18357541
Is cho marisa not touhou? I would argue parody work like that straddles a line and so does cookie. The difference is that cho marisa is cool and cookie carries the stench of internet drama and attention whores. Cookie will never get a fair shake, and in my opinion that's well deserved.

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>>18397602
drama is the best part of cookie

>> No.18401447
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Cookie is about to be 8 years old. The cookie we know today came at the cost of a fangirl's pure heart, and various other people along the way.

Happy Valentines day.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31871941

>> No.18407355

>>18335034
kill me

>> No.18409868

>>18407355
Later

>> No.18410653

>>18401447
Sorry for this, being a Cookie new friend and all but... Is UDK actually dead? I hope not. She sounded so happy.

>> No.18411083

>>18410653
The suicide thing is just a joke, UDK just deleted herself from the internet and will probably never come back

>> No.18414150
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>>18411083
Hopefully. From all the things I've read and watched it wouldn't surprise me that she could do that.
Some audio for fellow new friends:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12774118
Couldn't understand her here with all the soba slurping but she sounds really distraught.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24166709
RU throws UDK (Marina) under the bus
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28402393
UDK discovers her closest friendship was one sided
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22237474
Too late to stop her eventual alleged suicide, RU reveals that she really did consider UDK as her friend.

Keep in mind that these are just reanimations, so the upload dates are not a hint to the chronological ordering of these events. I'm just saying UDK killing herself isn't totally out of the question, based on all I've read and watched.

>> No.18414283
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Is there a collection of these in one place or are they spread out over multiple threads?

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>>18414150
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24166709

The one were those two make fun of her voice always puts me in a shitty mood. I don't like how some of small details were omitted in that MMD.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15461898

It's quite painful to listen to towards the end in original.

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>>18414150
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24166709
The one were those two make fun of her voice always pulls on my heartstrings. I don't like how that MMD kinda omits some small details.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15461898

It's painful to listen towards the end in original.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12714258

>> No.18414529

>>18414283
It was only in these two threads.

>>/jp/thread/S17765928
>>/jp/thread/S17539633

>> No.18414591
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>>18401447
>>18414150
>>18414503
Since I don't speak moon I've never really understood the whole drama aspect of Cookie. So it was basically young fangirls autistic enough to voice a bad Touhou video being mean pieces of shit to each other for whatever reason?

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>>18414503
淫夢厨は人間の屑
I can kind of hear her tearing up there

>>18414591
Okay I kind of exaggerated a bit at >>18414150. Second video was just RU accidentally dropping UDK's irl name. I think this helped inmufags find her irl eventually. Third video basically went:
> U: They're saying , "wow you two [RU and UDK] seem really close"
> R: We're not that close.
> U: Aren't we close friends, daichou [idk what this means lol]
> R: No we're not that close, really.
> U: We're not.. close? We're not close?
> R: Nope. Eh?
> U: Huh..
> R: Eh? I'm not that close with you, UDK
> U: (stammering) Eh??
> R: Eh? We're not close.
> U: Huh?? I really don't get it (lol)
> R: I told you, we're not that close
> U: (embarrassed) I kind of thought we were...
> R: I just told you we're not
> U: I mean we fight sometimes but...
> R: I don't hate you but I don't like you or anything
Next two lines I couldn't hear well
> U: マスダローネ
> R: I'm not being a tsundere. Thanks for being honest.
> U: I feel like I should apologize... (embarrassed)
> R: Uhh yeah
> U: Sorry about all that
Cookie is more than what you said, but you're kind of right.

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>>18414700
I knew about RU accidentally blurting out UDK's real name during a stream, but that was about it. Thank you for the translation of that part, was about to give up on ever understanding it (or maybe there are English translations of those streams somewhere, and I'm just too lazy/stupid to find them).

So yeah, teenage girls being teenage girls, and all the autism that comes with it. I've only really seen the first, original Cookie Kiss video (there's a translated version on Youtube) in order to appreciate the MAD parodies, which don't rely on actually understanding moon so much. I liked UDK for some reason though, so all the talk about drama and her "being dead" worried me a bit.

Maybe I should try and get into the rest of the content, but I suppose I would have to actually learn moon first. These were great help, though >>18414529.

Here, have a non-Cookie LoLK Marisa.

>> No.18414999

>>18414591
>>18414902
The drama in the original video come from a few main things.

1.) The original video being mediocre even though lots of people worked on it.
1.) INMU Homos hijacking the video and making a mockery of it. Ultimately causing UDK to delete herself in spectacular fashion due to all the negative mockery on the video she help plan/create.
2.) Hazuna Rio (HZN), the main organizer of video, getting doxxed after he started to delete INMU parody vidoes via copyright, even though the video itself was using touhou content. He was found to be a middle age man that was creeping on girls. He only organize the video to get closer to teenage girls via offline meetups. He didn't give a fuck about touhou or the video, which is most likely why it was mediocre. (Poor UDK, she probably thought that she was simply contributing to touhou fanworks at the time. She had already deleted herself when HZN started getting doxxed.)
3.) UDK and RU banter. UDK being a otaku touhou fangirl/artist/musician/live streamer. HNS Livestreams, YMN(SIK) livestreams.
4.) Just doxxing/parodies in general and the absurdity of it.

This only for the original video. The other videos have there own share of drama.

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Also, a good interpretation of what happened if you believe she did off herself over all of this.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31691574

>> No.18417562

>>18415898
I don't get the lips

>> No.18427714
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Happy birthday, KNN姉貴 !

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32701730

>> No.18434536

Chart anon never got to ALC

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>>18434536
But he did though.

>> No.18434909

>>18434577
The ALC family

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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32758955

>> No.18440096

SZ being UDK's young sister feels so right. it works better than UDK family. but KNN family is really good.

>> No.18441903

Am I dumb or is cookie banned in touhou ura? I never see threads about it.

>> No.18441927

>>18441903
Not sure if it's "banned" as in not allowed by the rules but they probably don't like it over there.

>> No.18442250

What was the name of the site with the radio?
I remember it was something cirno
It had Cirno in the top left(?) and the background was purely black

>> No.18442857

>>18442250
This? I don't see how it's relevant to the thread though...
https://chiru.no/

>> No.18445709

>>18335034
Do it now,
Mikasa!

>> No.18445968

>>18335102
Humans aren't rocks, retard.

>> No.18448693
File: 491 KB, 1385x1295, RU姉貴の誕生日.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18448693

Happy birthday RU姉貴 !

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32771171

>> No.18452226
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18452226

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>> No.18455527

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32738120
pinnacle of comedy

>> No.18468739

>>18452226
>>18452472
NG Ver.

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