/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I'm a newfag to VNs and I've been reading Higurashi lately and it's great. Do I need to finish it before I read Umineko though?

It's been two weeks now, where the fuck is Ryu?!

>>18408936
No, they are separate.

>>18408936
Tho they are unrelated it is a good experience to read Umineko after Higurashi due to the story setup. Now get out until you finished, this place has no mercy with spoilers.

Rosatrice
I am a shitposter
I don't respect anyone
I want to fuck Lambdadelta
The manga isn't necessarily canon
I only read Umineko and Higanbana
Rape is my fetish
I pirated Umineko
I watched the anime with DameDame subs
I have no love

>>18408945
Still playing Zelda BotW prob.

He didn't show up anywhere since that last tweet, just some spam-ish retweets for the RGD theatrical adaptation in there.

Are we really gonna get WTC5 this year I wonder,,, Or at least EP9.

>>18408852
>8. Thou shalt buy official game releases
If only these lazy twats let me buy tsumihoroboshi-hen and further

Higanbana on Steam when?

>>18408852
>4. Thou shalt not lewd the characters.
I cannot obey.

>>18408992
What exactly is taking so long? How can they be stuck on beta-testing when all the games run pretty much the same way?

>>18408874
Dlanor a cute, CUTE!

>>18408992
It's been a year since the release of EP 5, right?
I wonder if they got problems with copyright/licensing stuff.

>>18409401
Meakashi was released in late april, so, about 10 months
Still a really long time

>>18409010
>higurashi stucked on EP 5
>umineko with spic Battler
>no RGD
>no Higanbana

Yamerooo

beato

is gay

>>18408945
>>18408956
What's this about? I haven't kept up with recent events in a while aside from news of them making WTC5 and something called Haworthia

>>18409506
Ryukishi was working on EP 9 of Umineko and WTC 5 but BotW fucked up with his mind.

If Mangagamer had done what they did with Higurashi and made their own sprites for Umineko, would they have been better than the Pachinko ones?

>>18409892
Yes. At least none of the Higurashi sprites look outright silly.

>>18409892
>made their own sprites for Umineko
They aren't artists, dumb Rena.
Better with original sprites or Alchemist magic, but they are too poor to buy Alchemist ones.

>>18409908
>but they are too poor to buy Alchemist ones.
I thought it was more that Alchemist wasn't available, being bankrupt and all.

>>18409905
Their sprites also seem to be improving over time. The initial sprites had a lot more issues than the current ones.

>>18409908
Using only the original art would dissuade new potential buyers. Don't get me wrong, I like Ryukishi's art style, but it's clear why they would want to offer a more marketable alternative, regardless of how poor said alternative actually turned out to be.

>>18408852
>8. Thou shalt buy official game releases.
God bless 07th Mod team. The mad men ported the PS3 Voice and Sprites to MG release.
I bought the answer arc but couldn't read it with that pachinko sprites or something and without voices at all.

RGD or Higanbana when

>>18410011
They got good after Onikakushi-hen when more dudes and adults are introduced, even tho artstyle is still pretty generic, but Rena and Mion will always be fucking hideous and Rika's complex facial expression is lost forever. I kinda like their Shion and Satoko at least, but they aren't better than alternatives.

Serico art is love,

>>18409908
Pachinko sprites aren't bad.

>>18410133
Battler suffering never ends

>>18408852
Post more cute Dlanor

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>>18410147
Agreed. They're still my least favorite version, but they're nowhere near as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

>>18410307
Cute, cute!

>>18408852
>6. Thou shalt read Higurashi, Higanbana and Rose Guns Days.
What about Umineko? Or is it just assumed to be a must-read

>>18410406
It's a must read to be honest. Otherwise you will suffer intellectual rape from Erikas who lurks here.
There was a careless anon on last thread. There was no mercy on him, he was only on episode 1, poor thing...

>>18410133

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>>18410430
that was funny and sad at the same time.

>>18410465
At first he was pretty serious explaining the receipt trick, but then...

>>18410442
Dlanor a miracle of the universe.

>>18410508

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>>18410436

Oi, Krauss! What the fuck are you doing

>>18410551

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>>18410626

>>18410656

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>>18410733

>>18410747

Anything new about WTC5?

>>18410759
WTC 5 never
BotW is cucking us

>>18410758

>>18410784

>>18410759
Ryukishi is addicted to Zelda now and will probably become the next Togashi

>>18410796

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>>18410759
Nintendo will buy 07th expansion.

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>>18410862
>shitrika
Delet this

>>18410871
I was running low on my just Dlanor.

>>18410874
Anyone besides erika is fine

>>18410883

>>18410862
Erika a shit.

>>18410886
What is she saying?

>>18410862
What the heck is even going on here? Did they both down a bottle of booze and pass out in the sea of fragments?

>>18410895
No idea, wish I knew..and with this I am out of Dlanor without Erika.

In EP7 when Lion was going to be killed by kyrie, that wasn't Bernkastel fault right? it was just fate, why everyone hate Bern then.

>>18410904
RIP

>>18410906
She was being a dick about it

>>18410906
>why everyone hate Bern then
Why everyone hate Erika then?

Because they're both cunts.

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>>18410904
>落書きデス。

>>18410906
Also read episode 8 before posting here or I will rape you.

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>>18410942
Scribble Death.

>>18410837
Don't give them any more creative ideas, they might just do an actual catbox with their Labo thing

>>18411040
Oshoromoya evoo.

>>18411068
I think I would buy the shit out of those.

Umineko has way too merch for buyfags like myself.

Beatoriche amiibos when?

>>18411139
Too little*

>>18411068
>>18411139
>yfw WTC 5 will be Nintendo only

>>18411139
Same, my wallet and soul cries for more merch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj_S_FPsDes

What this

help

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>>18410969

Is there a reason behind the leotard-wearing meta beings in Umineko? I heard Ryukishi absolutely loves theater and before working with VNs, he went for that kind of career. But... I really can't find an actual reason for them to be wearing leotards, it's not that kind of art after all.

Fanservice (the Angel Mort thing)?

Something in particular that I missed in Umineko (that thing is full of cryptic shit, symbolism and a fuckton of foreshadowing you guys find quite often)?

"It just look cool/badass, thus it's the design chosen"?

Opine, if you want.

>>18412378
>Is there a reason behind the leotard-wearing meta beings in Umineko?
Why not?

>>18411067

>>18411152
I mean, Nintendo really like Ryukishi stuff (Higurashi Kizuna game series on DS and Higanbana exclusive videogame port for 3DS).

I wouldn't put it past them. But alas poor Alchemist, god-tier production values won't be dare, much like they weren't there for Higanbana release.

>>18409479
anon

>>18412454
BEATO

>>18412464
ANON

>>18412464

don't you BEATO my beato

>>18412489
ANON

>>18412560

^____^

>>18412483
I LOVE VIRGILIA

>>18412587
I don't give a fuck

>>18412378
I think Ryukishi just has a thing for thighs.

>>18412560
ROSA

>>18412395
Nice Dlanor thread.

>>18412703
No.

>>18412587
Me too. She's my favorite witch.

>>18412587
Warugilia.

>>18412854
Virgilia is not this lewd!

>>18412925
Why japanese people separate consonants with vowels? Beatrice -> Bea-tori-ce, Dlanor -> Dora-nor

>>18412403
Were the ports censored or did Ryukishi actually get away with loli rape in a Nintendo console?

>>18412378
>Is there a reason behind the leotard-wearing meta beings in Umineko?
The meta reason is that Ryukishi loves them and they are also a reference to Higurashi.

The in-universe reason is that Yasu is really a guy and likes to give all her female creations sexy outfits. Most of the magic beings were drawn by her.

>>18412925
Where are Wabeatrice and Wabattler? WHERE IS WALION?

>>18412951
Because they don't have separate consonants. They must always be attached to a vowel. Except for N, which counts as a syllabe by itself and must be pronounced as one. It's pretty weird.

English is much worse, though. Why can't you guys have just ONE pronunciation for each vowel?

>>18413055
English is not my first language too.
>just ONE pronunciation for each vowel
For consonants too. I have a pretty hard time with -th- and -gh- words. But the real fucking problem are the irregular verbs.

>>18413038
Wiru!

>>18413130
>>18413038
>>18412925
What the fuck is going on

>>18413055
The only thing I dislike about Japanese is that it lacks certain sounds for no reason. I don't mind SHI or TSU being a thing, but why the hell don't they have SI, TU, TI and certain W- sounds. It's bullshit. Even with Katakana, you have to add small vowels to the characters to make some foreign sounds. What the fuck? Also, something as overused as the CHA or KYO sounds shouldn't require a combination of two characters.

Don't even get me started on the "small tsu". That thing is bullcrap because it's often way too big, especially in handwritten text, and it's hard to differentiate it from the actual "tsu" sound at first glance. It should be a lot smaller.

>>18408852
Dlanor Rigby, picks up the rice
In the church where a wedding has been

>>18408852
I have to say that after reading Ch. 6 of the SN I really started to like Rena.
Her entire character is so lovely and pure.
All her actions in Onikakushi were so lovely and pure.
Once I finish the last two chapters I might even go back, just to read it one more time.

>>18413145
While Goldsmith was busy saving Nazitrice from the Onigafuchi swamp aliens, an imposter called Wakinzo somehow got into his mansion and hid the six master keys all over the island. He also used a spell to possess all the servants and make them serve him. Goldsmith must collect all six master keys to remove the magic seal on the front door and defeat Wakinzo.

Sounds good and Wakinzo is an amazing character in his own series, but this novel plays like shit and the mysteries are WAY too easy. Goldsmith ends up with 99 gold ingots halfway through the story. The only good thing about this novel is the part where Goldsmith enters a giant golden robot version of himself he created while drunk. That shit was insane.

TL;DR: The first one was crazier, harder and much more fun. The music was a lot better too.

Edit anon here with another new doujinshi. Hope you all enjoy.
https://exhentai.org/g/1185864/27b12105d0/

>>18413282
>Her entire character is so lovely and pure.
Wasn't she a dirty, self-harming bitch who secretly disliked her friends and only pretended to be an airhead to get along with them?

>>18413310
Uh? Even K1?
I don't remember this at all

I'm not que quote guy

>>18413302
>pedoshit
Yuck!

>>18413353
Kill yourself, please.

>>18413383
After you, please.

>>18413302
>maria doujin
4. Thou shalt not lewd the characters.

>>18413310
Naw, she pretty much let Keiichi bash her skull in because she believed that he wouldn't do anything to her, while holding out both of her hands and saying; ''it's alright, trust me.''

>>18413464
How tragic

Rena is the ideal gf/wife: cute, airhead, good housewife skills and have a nice body.
Fucking Hinamizawa syndrome tho

>>18413463
I'm afraid I can't follow that rule.

>>18408852
> read Higurashi, Higanbana and Rose Guns Days
Higanbana is about what? Psychological terror like Higurashi or something?
The VNDB description is pretty edgy to be honest.

>>18413799
Belphegor a best!

>>18413805
It is kinda edgy.

Psss... Nothing personnel, kid.

>>18413805
More like horror, it's not a masterpiece but its fun, a little too dark sometimes.

>>18413818
Spending a day relaxing together with Belphegor. Letting her attend to your every need as you laze about.

>>18413820
>kinda

>>18413805
it's tales from the crypt basically. a bunch of not really connected stories featuring ghosts in a school.

>>18413833
Yeah, the gun is totally not what I'm focusing on in that closeup.

>>18413842
>pachinko sprite
Oi, don't fuck with me!

>>18413847
It's easy to work with.

>>18413842
Kyrie's tits are really big in the pachinko version, but i like that.

>>18413820
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>>18413838
I see. I don't really like edgy stuff but maybe I will try it later. Gonna read RGD now.

>>18413858
Same. Ange also got a pretty hefty upgrade.

>>18413900
slutty ange is best ange.

>>18413923
She's gotta stand out for Battler to notice her.

>>18413958
>one winged crest in the swimsuit
Nice.

>>18413832

Best stake.

>>18414001
Mammon is also great.

>>18413979
Thanks. It seemed necessary.

>>18414056

>>18413638
>cut wrists
>80s bush
>neck full of maggots
Eh...

>>18414349
>literally Nayuki, Misuzu and Sakura ripoffs
I love it. I like how the Higurashi sprites resemble KEY's early art style. Imagine Kanon getting as creepy as Onikakushi.

How much longer till the ep 1-4 ps3ification PC version comes out?

>>18413010
Uncensored, Ryukishi got us loli rape and rabbit on shota rape on a Nintendo handheld.

>>18414777
They are already out for a while now (the full beta, which is actually very much complete besides needing some editing)..

They are working on Chiru now, and it seems almost done, last time I've heard about it.

They don't seem too happy for people having made torrents out of their work there though, so I'm not sure they will actually release Chiru (or even a full release/non-beta of the question arcs)

Natsuhi is the purest.

I love Shion!

>>18414972
Cute, cute!
Natsuhi is pure and innocent.

I love EVA!

>>18415578
>Eva-Beatrice
>not adult Eva
Nigga

>>18415596
Na, I love EVA more.

>>18413531
is this from the PS version?

>>18416363
Cute Dlanor!

Should Leo and Wayne have died during the end of season 1?

DAME DA

ZENZEN DAME DA

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>>18415577
Why do you guys keep spouting this over and over? It's like you're purposefully trying to deny her problems.

>>18408852
I'm reading Higurashi, almost done atm.
However, I've never seen the anime, should I?
Is there anything it does better?

>>18417715
>Is there anything it does better?

No

>>18417722
uhu, expected as much.
thanks for answering.

>>18414972
Can Natsuhi kill servants?

>>18415577
Natsuhi a best!

>>18417856
Yes but only as an accident, she was forced!

>>18415557
i love Mion

>>18417668
Her only problem was that she didn't kill Sayo/Yasu

>>18416279
I don't think so.

>>18417668
*blocks your path*

>>18418019

What's the best version of Dread of the grave?

>>18418136
Moon is Shion and Shion is Mion. I love them both!

>>18419339
Twins are wins!

>>18419276
this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAF9YJ925OY

>>18419590
>tfw no good rip of seacats from Siiva, only low-effort kazoo trash

>>18417715
The openings and endings are pretty great. There is a kind of interesting OVA that takes place when Mion was a kid. The Tsumihoroboshi flashforward with Akasaka has an entire episode dedicated to it in the second season, and adult Rena shows up. The very first arc of the second season is an anime exclusive arc focused on Satoko. The later seasons are hilarious and you get to see Rena's naked ass.

Other than that, it's pretty shit. Especially if you never read the novels, because it basically spoils the whole thing but lacks most of the worldbuilding and character development that makes the story special. If you watch it after the novels, it won't be so bad because you already know the details. Still, some iconic scenes were adapted like shit or were completely removed. The first six arcs were adapted in 26 episodes, so they removed a TON of stuff and changed the tone of the story to pure horror almost a 100% of the time.

>>18408852
>4. Thou shalt not lewd the characters.
Well I'm out

>>18420872
Kono hentai!

>>18420872
Don't lewd the seacats kudasai.

Why did Umineko get so much hate for not explaining everything directly? All the clues were there and everything made sense on a reread.

Evangelion did the same thing but 1000 times worse, since it was nearly impossible to understand without reading hours upon hours of explanations online and carefully examining every fucking scene afterwards. And yet, Evangelion didn't get nearly the same amount of hate. Some people dislike it, but most people consider it a masterpiece (myself included).

I believe that Ryukishi got the whole "let the audience find the truth themselves" idea from Evangelion, but he decided to make it much more fair. It's actually very possible to solve the whole thing and understand the character's motivations if you think about it and reread key parts, like Narnith, Newt and Jokrono's LPs have proven.

Maybe Ange and Eva were a coincidence, but it's obvious that Ryukishi chose Lion's name to reference EvaAngeLion. And the CONGRATULATIONS-tier ending to Umineko was another reference to it.

I think both stories did it well in different ways. Umineko is delightful when you reread it and realize that the answers were in plain sight the whole time. It's like the text has been magically rewritten to acknowledge the fact that you are aware of the truth, even though it's the same text you read the first time.

Evangelion, on the other hand, is fucking impossible to figure out no matter how many times you watch it. But once you understand everything thanks to outside sources, it's really fucking cool. Everyone is talking about convoluted and confusing shit that doesn't concern the protagonist and that the audience has no way to understand. But if you DO know what all that crap is about, it's like you are really in that universe, randomly getting information that isn't meant to be solvable. It feels less like a story directed at you as an spectator and more like the real experience of watching a bunch of scenes happening in a realistic and complex world you have been transported to.

>>18421267
The only bad thing about that was the born of Rosashit and the fact that those faggots still think that Ryukishi is "trolling" us.

>>18421267
Thinking is hard and it's easier to blame the author than to accept that I couldn't figure out the mysteries by myself as well as the fact that I could have put more effort into trying instead of wishing for clear answers that I never end up receiving.
Why accept failure and loss when I can just blame the author and his game and attack every little thing to justify my hate? "Without love it cannot be seen"? What is that suppose to mean? Maybe if I think on it more... Nah, Ryukishi is just a hack.

It can't be helped, you can't please everyone and not everyone will understand and figure out a mystery. It might also depend on whether you see Umineko more like a game where the characters are just pieces on a gameboard or more like a story where the characters are far more than that and have to be understood by the reader.
One of the main messages of Umineko is a simple yet complex perspective, seeing with and without love. We can try, but we're still only human in the end.

>>18421267
>it's obvious that Ryukishi chose Lion's name to reference EvaAngeLion
I doubt this was intentional because it only works in English. In Japanese, Evangelion (エヴァンゲリオン) and EvaAngeLion (エバエンジェリオン) aren't similar at all except for the "lion" part

>>18421267
CONGRATULATIONS, BATORA! CONGRATULATIONS! CONGRATULATIONS! CONGRATULATIONS! CONGRATULATIONS, BATORA! CONGRATULATIONS!

Thank you, old bastard.

<See you again> Kyrie-san.

And to all the witches: CONGRATULATIONS!

>>18421676
What about the titles of the episodes spelling DBATTLER? Is Dark Battler the real culprit and Tohya is bullshiting us with the memory thing?

>>18421699
Can we just agree that Battler Negro is the real culprit desu

>>18421267
> Why did Umineko get so much hate for not explaining everything directly?
It's not like that, people got mad because, unlike Higurashi, there wasn't a single connection between the first episodes and the last ones. I think the only thing the question arc were useful for the answers, besides the character introduction and development, was some red truths here and there.
With Higurashi, each question game has its answers. It may not be the exact situation Keiichi was Hinamizawa'd on episode 1 and Rena was Hinamizawa'd on episode 6 but you can relate both games (episode 2 and episode 5 are a perfect example for this).
Now tell me just one thing that you can explicitly relate between episode 1 and episode 8. You can't, right?
That's why people got mad with Ryukishi and called him a hack or whatever. It's not like they didn't found the answer for Rokkenjima massacre Rosatrice faggots aren't even goat furniture, don't even mention them, but it would be good to relate both question arc and answer arcs a bit more and not make them read the question arcs again, but they are so good that I don't even mind it.
Not to mention the love thing. Not everyone (males mostly) will understand this at the first time myself included and probably will think it was a silly why dunnit for the massacre.
Mix this up and you can understand how Ryukishi almost fucked up his career.

Please note that there is a lot of people who read Umineko. Their opinions may be positive towards R07. I wrote this with your typical autistic Japanese otaku in mind, so spare me of Erika treatment.

>>18423392
But you are asking the same thing, "why they didn't give out the answers to each mystery".
>answers arc
but Chiru isn't really answers arc, it's a breakdown arc. For you to understand how the game works.

>>18423458
Mangagamer sells it as a answer arc.
And I don't want a answer to each mystery, I just wanted more than some red texts from episode 4

>>18423499
There are plenty of clues scattered during the first arc pointing at the culprit. Focus on relationships between Joji and Shannon, Jessica and Kanon at the beginning of Ep.2 should be big enough signal already. Stuff like Battler promising that he will return was noticed. If you are perceptive enough you will notice that Shannon and Kanon are seen together only during magic bullshit parts and when servants are by themselves. With that and many other clues you can identify whodunnit, and howdunnit becomes more clear. For the first arc information to be useful you should just git gud.

>>18423392
>Not everyone (males mostly) will understand this at the first time myself included and probably will think it was a silly why dunnit for the massacre.
What? I think males can understand the despair of losing their dick and being unable to jack off for the rest their lives more easily than females. A lot of girls don't give a crap about sex for some strange reason.

>>18423940
>A lot of girls don't give a crap about sex for some strange reason.
Where'd you get that idea from. I thought muh sex-life was a huge deal for all normies, male or female, in terms of whether they consider a relationship successful.

>>18424038
Women aren't actually attracted to male bodies. They just get off on the idea of THEIR naked bodies being seen and enjoyed by men.

>>18424082
>t. John Berger
(not that I necessarily disagree)

Rosatri

>>18424359
I want to impregnate Rosatri
without taking responsibility!

>>18424531
You are into scat? Ew

>>18424359

>>18421267
It's not very nice to bully autistic people.

>>18424386
Cute, cute!

>>18420844
Mhm, I see.
I might just try it, if it gets really shitty I can always drop it later.
Thanks for your input, buddy.

>>18420844
>you get to see Rena's naked ass
Who'd want to see Rena's ass? Ewww. Kimochi warui~

This anime was so bad i dropped it, the VN is better?

>>18426522
VN part the anime adapts is at least 60 hours long
Anime lasts 12 hours
You tell me if you think the anime is a good representation of the VN

>>18426522
Like every VN adaptation, the VN shits all over the adaptation.

Maria は cute, hella cute, incredibly cute, so cute.

The actual, literal loli-kid cuteness of Maria-chan.

>>18427079
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>>18281414
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>>18056712
>>17969102
>>17112397
Yeah, we get it. You don't need to keep posting about it

>>18427271
You are ruining the meme.

>>18427079
>Maria is literally cute
As opposed to figuratively?

>>18427611
>meme
It's shitty and boring, who cares

I had a huge smile on my face when I was reading Higanbana and this started playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6EsOn3-gY0

>>18427271
a lot of comments nuked in those threads.

In EP1, Krauss takes Natsuhi to a secret room in the mansion and shows her a bar of gold, revealing that the legend is real and the ten tons of gold must exist somewhere on the island. He supposedly met with a company president who had ties with Kinzo or something like that, and the old guy confirmed that Kinzo's legend of the gold was real. To prove it, he gave Krauss the gold ingot that Kinzo used as collateral when they made a business deal. I'm not sure if I remember correctly, maybe it was the old guy's son who told all that stuff to Krauss because his father had already died.

My question is: why the fuck would that guy just give Krauss a valuable gold ingot? Even if Kinzo literally gave it to him for free to gain his trust and increase his reputation as an investor, why would the guy just give it away like that? And if Krauss bought it, why the hell did the do it? He NEEDS A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW and can't waste any of it in some useless gold ingot. He only wanted to make sure that the legend was real so he could confidently start searching for it.

What the fuck happened?

>>18427779
did you read "Our confession?" (the TIP not the EP8 manga)

>>18427807
No.

>>18427840
http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Our_Confession

>>18427807
I did, but I don't remember it having anything to do with the gold. I remember that Krauss and Natsuhi were threatened by Sayo in that story.

If you are implying that Krauss got the gold ingot from trannyboy in EP1, that makes no sense. He and Natsuhi were completely innocent. Krauss' story about the gold must be true in some way, but I don't get how he got to keep such a valuable ingot.

Maybe he didn't really have an ingot and that scene is a metaphor for Krauss convincing Natsuhi that the gold exists. Why, though?

>>18427852
Flauros a cute, a literal cute. As opposed to figuratively.

Why is this cutie in the depths of oblivion while Gertrude, 00 and Gaap are a thing. I kinda dig Gaap, but Flauros would be much better.

>>18427882
isn't EP1 a story written by Yasu? did Battler saw the gold ingot?

>>18427882
They aren't innocent at all because they are accomplices in the EP1.

>>18427923
You're mixing up Natsuhi and Krauss with Eva and Hideyoshi.

>>18427905

>>18427923
Natsuhi and Krauss weren't accomplices in Episode 1. Krauss even dies at first Twilight

>>18427923
What did they even do in EP1? Krauss died immediately and Natsuhi got shot after receiving a mysterious letter.

How do you guys feel about the EP8 reveals? You know, all that stuff about Will, Dlanor, Virgilia and the Chiester imperial guards being trapped in the golden land and fighting for their lives because they are all Yasu/Tohya's creations and neither Pendragon nor Heaven actually existed in the meta?

I like it because the idea of Heaven being ruled by entities that represent mystery fiction rules is absurd, but it's sad to know that none of that stuff exists above Beato's world.

The meta itself is undeniably real, though.

>>18427931
What did you DO to the ham-hands?

>>18427779
Maybe Krauss knocked the guy out with the strongest punch in the boxing world™ and stole the ingot

>>18427905
>>18427931
I hope Flauros, Real Erika and Real Lion appear in EP9. Every Umineko chapter has introduced new character so far, so it would be really cool.

>>18428001
i didn't do that, i just found it, but yes i preffer the dough hands.

Erika meets Virgilius
What would their interactions be like?
Would they love finding another intellectual rapist to share the joy of intellectual rape with or hate eachother?

>>18428514
Erika is fucking autistic.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Umineko. The mistery is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the riddles will go over a typical reader´s head. There's also Beatrice´s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation - her personal philosophy draws heavily from Jungian philosophy for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the fantasy scenes, to realize that they're not just weeb shit- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who hate Umineko truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the hidden depth in Battler´s existencial catchphrase "It´s useless. It´s all useless!," which itself is a cryptic reference to Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Ryushiki´s genius unfolds itself on their computers screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I do have a One Wing Crest tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the witches eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they solved the epitaph (preferably before chapter 6) beforehand.

I'm seeing a lot of people posting about an umineko episode 9 and i only recently finished reading it. Is this real or a meme?

>>18408952
>with dame dame subs
You are free to post here, anon.

>>18410485
Is there a way to see the archive? I missed the thread

>>18428746
wtf is that

Why is Rosatice hated? Even if it was disproven by the manga or completely off the mark it was very interesting and satisfying to watch.

>>18429141
I want to unironically get a One-Winged Eagle tattoo. Don't know where though, maybe upper right arm.

Finished Higurashi yesterday, that was great, I enjoyed it a lot. The feels and thrills were fantastic and it's pleasant to see how sharp and humane Ryukishi was from the beginning of his writing career and deep-rooted Umineko connections bring some new food for thought to the table.

But is it me, or Matsuribayashi-hen fable was rather off? Minagoroshi was that beautiful collapse of preconceptions and preconceived notions that entagled both characters and Hinamizawa as well as fantastic reveal of the culprit. Honestly, if the series ended here I wouldn't be mad, phenomenal culmination to themes and ideas of Higurashi has been reached. Matsuribayashi on the other had that long-winded buildup for what in fact turned out to be the ScoobyDoo fuss with overdramatic action scenes. It was fun as fuck but besides some background exposition and great character scenes I can't see the substance that story brings. Anyone feels the same?

>>18427905
where is this from?

>>18429894
>>/jp/thread/S18381690#p18404919

>>18429945
It's hated because it has no heart and ignores the very core of the story in order to create a very twisted take in the story elements, going as far as dellusionally ignoring how the whole meta structure even works and calling the canon answer bullshit (when it has foreshadowing GALLORE even without the usual second readthrough people kinda have to make when reading Seacats).

I respect as an efffort from someone from the community, who did put a lot of work -8 fucking hours- trying to make an alternative explanation. I disrespect it for anything else, as it disrespects the work per se.

Fuck, the creator deleted the damn videos by the time very explicit answers came from the mango, I'm not sure how there are still Rosatricers (the real deal, I mean) around till this day. I'm guessing they are just trolls.

>>18430194
Nobody liked that much of matsuribayashi other than the superior PS2 alternative version of it desu (which actually has a nice sacrifice during the asspull portion at the end).

Most of the people who really liked it have it as their favorite though. It's made with a lot of heart besides its obvious flaws, maybe that's why.

I just disliked the Hanyuu ex machina and the silly stuff overall, besides that it was really solid as an ending (I fail to comprehend how people see the original ending as a bittersweet ending tho, Higurashi is the sole exception of a happy ending in his stories imo).

>>18431297
>superior PS2 alternative version of it
Is there a translation of it available anywhere? Also Saikoroshi-hen is a must as I understand, I need to read it too

>>18431349
It was added in Higurashi Sui release, so your best bet would be waiting for the 07thMod github to translate it as well. Pretty sure it won't be that easy though, as it's part of some other portion of extra material in the console releases.

Does anyone have any of these albums?

https://vgmdb.net/product/3052

>>18431380
There are acutally two different versions of Miotsukushi. The original version is from Matsuri. In Kizuna there was an alternate version added (usually refered to as Miotsukushi Ura) which has some differences and has a new ending. Both versions are included in Sui

All these years after finishing Umineko I feel like I still don't understand it. Maybe I really don't have any love after all.

>>18431458
You could always read the manga. They put it possibly in the most explicit way possible.

>>18431515
I read it but I still don't understand.

>>18429945
Because of the shitposting it leads to from both sides.

>>18431527
there was an user in Rokkenjima wanting to make a Umineko guide before the forum closes.

Hopefully he will finish it in time, there wasn't any words in that thread in a bit now.

>>18429141
>Battler´s existencial catchphrase "It´s useless. It´s all useless!,"
Should have somehow made "Without love the truth cannot be seen" fit in there

>>18431274
>the creator deleted the damn videos by the time very explicit answers came from the mango
You've been saying this for a while now and I know it isn't true. To put this myth to rest I went back and checked the dates

Knownomore deleted his videos in March 2017. The Episode 8 manga ended in June 2015 and the English translation was finished in September 2015. That's a pretty big time gap. I even remember comments on his videos about the new red truths from the manga (all of which he completely dismissed, of course)

He did delete all of his videos, but it probably wasn't because of the manga. Maybe he finally grew up and realized how stupid his theory was or something

>>18431624
I see...

I only touched his videos way back then, and when I was going to use it as an example for a certain argument during a conversation, it was nowhere to be found at some point. I just assumed that was the case.

Either way, I'm betting something along those lines happened because of the manga specially, he just took longer to actually delete it.

>>18431297
I like how Hanyuu's life was saved by a real miracle. Higurashi is fantasy, it's not an asspull.

I've read about the alternate console ending, but it seems very contrived with the whole "every problem coincidentally happens at once and K1 must solve them"', the ending is unnecessarily sad and ruins the whole point of Hanyuu helping Rika in the first place. And it wasn't even written by Ryukishi, as far as I know.

Also, you can't read it with the original art. Fuck that.

>>18431349
Saikoroshi is the epilogue to Higurashi. It's a must read. Not that Matsuribayashi didn't have a great ending, but this chapter gives more insight into Rika's character, explores the consequences of her journey and takes place in a world very similar to Lion's, where everybody had happier lives but they are weaker people as a result.

>>18431297
Higurashi only has a happy ending for Rika. Everyone else gets fucked in the previous worlds, including the countless Rikas that end up fusing into a witch and having lesbian sex with a psychotic cake.

It depends on how you look at it, though. My interpretation is that the endless fragments that represent infinite possibilities only come into existence as REAL worlds when a god-like being such as Hanyuu uses her powers. When it's just a witch looking for alternate realities and fucking shit up to entertain herself, those worlds don't "really" exist.

So you could say that Rika and Hanyuu have made those possibilities real by traveling between worlds and experiencing them as piece Rika. They are responsible for creating those worlds where everyone met terrible fates. And this could explain why normal people in Higurashi can subconsciously remember things and avoid previous mistakes. Their consciousness is the same in every world Hanyuu creates, even if people like Rena sometimes live for decades after Rika is dead. The concept of time doesn't matter in the meta realm and doesn't affect the connection between parallel worlds. So, you could say that the Akasaka that asked for a second chance to save Rika did eventually become the Matsuribayashi Akasaka after dying of old age and losing his consciousness in that world forever.

>>18431527
What don't you understand?

>>18429141
Kek, very well thought out

>>18431349
Saikoroshi-hen is one of my favorites. It's already translated, go read it. I don't understand why so many people skip it and go straight to Umineko just because it doesn't have a fancy graphics patch or some shit like that.

Seriously, why skip it? I wanted to see Newt's reaction when he finds out that his waifu Mion is an asshole who finds bullying entertaining in this perfect world. Only to realize that "Mion" doesn't appear anywhere in this episode because she's been sent to Ange's school. He saw through Shion's bullshit immediaty in Watanagashi because her actions didn't fit his waifu's personality. I bet he would figure it out this time too.

>>18431624
Hé deleted all of his channel. From what I can remember he was interested in rhetoric, proving God's existence or disproving this kind of thing. He didn't only delete the Umineko videos.

>>18431274
>it has no heart
As you yourself said the guy put an incredible amount of time and effort on it, probably even more than 8 hours to re read, piecing everything together so that it would make sense. I admit however that the part when Rosa supposedly took into herself yasu's love for Battle because she felt guilty was retarded - but you can't tell me straight in the eyes that Yasu's why dunnit made sense. I know it resulted from the accumulated circumstances surrounding him starting from the cliff but...
>ignoring how the whole meta structure works
From my point of view, I think that was the approach of someone who wanted Umineko to be more grounded and actually found a way to make it work without the meta elements. He probably didn't matured from the "why the fuck are Battler and Beatrice arguing in a 4 dimensional interspace" mindset.

>>18431912
>just because it doesn't have a fancy graphics patch or some shit like that.
It actually does have that

>>18431851
I don't the "why" part of Umineko. I don't understand why Shannon would want to kill everyone in the first place. Sure, I understand that she is the killer and more-or-less understand how she went about murdering everyone, but I feel like she doesn't have a clear motive behind her murders. In a way, I feel as though someone like Krauss, Rosa or George would make more sense to be killers since they could be driven by feelings such as greed or hatred to commit murders. I can't see love as a motive for murder unless the murderer is trying to prevent NTR or something.
Then again, I only ever loved a person back in middle school and after being rejected by her I stopped caring about love altogether. Which means that maybe I'm not meant to ever understand a story that's apparently about love.

>>18432175
I think Ryukishi summed this up pretty well

>R: I have this feeling that most of the people who arrived at the truth were women, because the key is being able to imagine Yasu’s feelings. Umineko is something that cannot be read by people who never fell in love with somebody. It is something that people who have no experience in love and relationships have trouble understanding. “Love can become a motive that has more power over you than life or death”, that is something which is pretty hard to explain to people without this experience. Most of them will think that it’s just “an overdone motive”. But for people who have known love and experienced how much it can make you suffer, they understand that love can turn your world upside down. If you are told “I will come for you again!” and for 6 years there is nothing, it can make you go crazy, but people who have even slightly suffered due to love will say “those 6 years must have been hell”. But people who no nothing of that pain will probably wait for nothing less than a dramatic gadget to appear, like the heroic story of “at age X her mother and father were brutally murdered”.

>>18432181
Even though I should stop thinking right now, I still feel frustrated. The imaginary witch in my head is telling me to keep going. I have to find the answer. I will reread Umineko and try to find the truth myself. Because even without love I can still try to see.

Who had the most pathetic death in the Ryuukishiverse?

>>18432441
Shion (proto-Mion) in Meakashi might be the best contender

>>18432175
Sayo wanted to kill herself and take down any person she perceived as "guilty" or who would be devastated by her death. That's what the bomb is for. Battler showing up made her reconsider her plan, so she decided to give everyone a chance by carrying out the epitaph and sending that letter. If someone solves it or figures out the tricks, they will be able to stop the crime. She made it solvable for Battler.

Battler is to blame for indirectly creating that situation. If he hadn't said that stuff to Sayo, she would've quit her job sooner and by the time she learned that she's actually a creepy underdeveloped eunuch her situation would be completely different. She'd probably have a stable relationship with someone she could really trust with her issues. Instead, she was in a relationship with this fucking beta nerd who lived only for her sake and would probably go nuts if something went wrong with his waifu. She was also wondering if being a guy would be a better idea, because that's supposed to be her real sex and Jessica is super hot. Her only friend, Maria, was going to grow up with psychological issues and a terrible mother. And she's also kind of pissed at Battler for making her waste so many years thinking about him, when he never gave much of a shit about Shannon. And on top of that, she had access to guns and giant bomb that could wipe everything out and end her misery. It's easier to gather up the resolve needed to kill yourself if you've already dirtied your hands and the consequences of your actions will be more painful than pulling a trigger.

You should also consider that Sayo was raised in a christian orphanage where they fed her ideas about Heaven and shit, much like Hifumi did to Takano with the story of how Jesus lives forever because he left a mark in the world. The magic persona she uses to play with Maria is an intentional fabrication, but it's obvious that she really believes in some kind of spiritual afterlife.

>>18432529
God, thanks anon, for posting this. Gonna save it and post it for next time.

>>18432441
Saikoroshi spoiler: Rika's mother gets killed by her 11 year old daughter for no apparent reason, as far as the human world is concerned. Getting killed because your daughter literally got possessed by herself from another world is pretty pathetic. She never expected her cute daughter to suddenly murder her, so she most likely was surprised by Rika while she had her guard down.

Also, in Higanbana Second Night: An otaku loli goes to her relative's swimming pool and accidentally hits her head while playing, dying from the blood loss before anyone notices it. It's sad as fuck, especially because it DOES happen in real life. But it's a pretty stupid way to die when you think about it.

>>18432529
Good job Erika

>>18432529
>You should also consider that Sayo was raised in a christian orphanage where they fed her ideas about Heaven and shit, much like Hifumi did to Takano with the story of how Jesus lives forever because he left a mark in the world
Why does Ryukishi hate christians so much?
The RGD antagonist also is a christian

>>18431912
>I don't understand why so many people skip it
I, for one, skipped it because there's no working torrent. Gib.

>>18432529
Nanjo can go fuck himself for not even giving Yasu a fake vagina or those pills trannies take to be able to grow tits. Hell, if he did that when she was still a baby, she'd grow up to look 99% like a normal female and not at all like one of those obvious trannies.

Or at least kill the baby yourself and say "I'm sorry, there was nothing I could do". If you still want to save the baby despite not knowing shit about reconstructive surgery, you have to take him to a real professional and stop protecting Kinzo. If something goes wrong and people find out that he's been doing illegal crap in his private island for decades, that's too bad.

Genji is a fucking idiot too. I get that he and Nanjo are old timers with outdated ideas. But raising this poor bastard as a girl, setting her up as a servant (child labor anyone?) and waiting for her to grow up into a weak, short, undeveloped sissyboy with no friends... That's fucked, man. And after that, you try to fix your mistakes by giving this mentally unstable person the tools to massacre everyone and telling her that she's a dude. Oh, and making her think that Kinzo was a complete monster because you weren't there at the time and don't know if the story about how the italians died or how much Nazitrice loved him were true.

TL;DR: Genji is a fucking nutjob.

>>18432614
Japan loves christianity because the symbology, the angels, Hell and all that shit is honestly pretty cool. I think that Miyo and Sayo were taught about it "wrong", or less strictly, so they developed their own ideas and interpretations of it.

I mean, it's not like Jesus is REALLY experiencing anything anymore. No matter how alive he is in people's hearts, his consciousness is gone. Although I don't think Miyo meant it literally. And you supposedly can't go to the literal biblical Heaven after killing a bunch of people in closed rooms.

>>18432664
And why would Nanjo go along with her mental illness

>>18432655
I got the the game here
https://mega.. nz/#F!kJF1zKjC!0tIZjPi32uxfrB8uShbZQA

Different versions of translations and PS3 graphix if that's your thing here
http://pearsehillock.. blogspot.com/2015/07/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-rei-v11.html

Hopefully I'm not breaking 8th commandment, we will never see an official release of Rei anyway

>>18432175
Watch this podcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxiMO02UJw

They discussed things that I never even thought of, like the idea of Will being fantasy Battler and Lion being fantasy Sayo.

Seriously, everything makes so much more sense now. Why Will has a strand of red hair and cares about "the heart" like young Battler did, why Lion is so androgynous looking and has golden hair, why he refuses to state his gender. Will is the perfect, competent version of Battler. And Lion is a perfect version of Yasu, that's the reason why his gender is so ambiguous. Yasu's idea of a perfect life is one where she doesn't have to worry about gender crap and can truly love someone without that getting in the way. Thanks to this interpretation, I have no problems with fanart or doujins treating Lion as a girl.

They also talk about the ending and how Lion's world is pure fantasy because he never existed in the real world. His appearance is fantasy, the golden roses in the chapel are fantasy, Shannon and Kanon showing up in EP7 is fantasy, George being a mature young man despite Shannon not being there to give him the motivation to improve is also fantasy.

The end of the Tea Party is basically Bernkastel trying to trap this fantasy world inside the cat box, where the end result after the 2 days are over is that everyone is dead. That's why something as illogical as Kyrie killing everyone happens in Lion's world too. But Will tells Lion that he mustn't accept this bullshit. Why can Lion be saved and find a miracle world just because he refuses to accept reality? Because his very existence is fantasy. He's not bound by the rules of the mystery genre or the real world events of Prime.

>>18432762
Isn't everything in Rei also in Hou? Hou is supposed to be completely translated by Mangagamer in the future.

>>18432770
Yeah, MangaGamer said that they'll translate all the Rei and Hou arcs. But they won't be out for a few years at this rate

>>18432707
Guilt for being the one for causing said mental illness.

>>18432821
tsumiboroshi-hen when? fucking mangagamer.

>>18432664
>Nanjo can go fuck himself for not even giving Yasu a fake vagina or those pills trannies take to be able to grow tits

Did those exist in 1967 tho, would japanese old men even know about them?

>>18431764
>miracle
>not an asspull

Choose one, Fairy Tail is also fantasy and full of asspulls.

>>18432082
>but you can't tell me straight in the eyes that Yasu's why dunnit made sense
Are you serious now?
In her place I would have killed myself way before getting crazy.

Yasu had one fucked life, what part of the why didn't get through you, really?

>>18432964
I'm into loli scat, so I don't mind Rika's asspull. She didn't want Hanyuu to die.

>>18432984
>her

now you guys are making on purpose

a friend recommended this to me a few months ago
i watched the cartoons and they were insteresting but nothing spectacular
are these games better than the cartoons? what's the gameplay like?

>>18433025
the gameplay is rather boring (you can basically finish it pressing a single key several times, much like those clicker games), but the story is much better than the cartoon version.

>>18433025
Literally read the comic book instead.

As opposed to figuratively.

>>18433025
The gameplay is really boring. If you want fun gameplay you should play the pachinko version instead. Here's a tutorial for how to play the pachinko version on your PC. I can't believe there's acually a video tutorial for this. What the fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ-QCGxzCF8

>>18429925
Erika true form.

>>18428746
Fucking saved

>>18432441
Ushiromiya Angste の dignity as a human being had the most pathetic death. She was forced to write a letter confessing how much of a worthless shit she is and read it out loud for the whole class.

>>18433411
They had good intentions, though.

Real bullies would surround her desk while the teacher isn't around and ask her embarrassing questions like "do you masturbate, Ushiromiya-san?"' or "how much hair do you have down there?". They'd smile wickedly as Ange sits there, blushing awkwardly and praying that the teacher comes back soon, while the rest of the class laughs at her and does nothing to stop it.

>>18433460
What exactly prevents a victim of bullying from responding "yes" or "no" to that question or saying "of course I have pubic hair, are you stupid?".

Is it Ange's teenage pride? Literally lewd!

OOOOOOOH MARIATORICHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

YOU WA CUTEEEEEEEE

HELLA CUTEEEEEEEEEEEE

MARIATORIIIIIIIICHEEEEEEEEE!!

How can Sakutaro be heartwarming and EXTREMELY PUNCHABLE at the same time?

>>18433582
Shut up fag

>>18433672
There is literally nothing gay about liking little girls with no tits and boyish butts.

>>18433688
That's very homo gay of you.

>>18433688
>literally
As opposed to figuratively?

>>18433753
>no naked Satoko sprite

>>18433753
A good way to spend your time. I'm sure your parents would be very proud of you if they found out.

>>18433776
>caring about what disgusting normies think

>>18433776
Hi, Tumblr.

>>18433786
Nothing wrong with being normal, anon.

>>18433788
Sup.

>>18433753
I actually feel kind of bad for getting turned on by the Steam version. But only a little bit, I'll still fap to it

>>18433788
>some of those SJWs are men
How can a MAN be brainwashed into hating lolis or even nudity in general? What the actual fuck?

>>18433821
Do you fap to little kids? Creepy.

>>18433827
How can a man fall so low in life as to begin to feel attraction to children? What the actual fuck?

>>18433828
You don't? What a fag.

>>18433769
Naked Satoko kind of takes away from the scene if you are a massive fucking pervert.

If you are a braindead normie, it will make you faint and post about it on Tumblr.

Only a truly sane person can feel bad for Satoko and feel the emotional impact of a little girl being so insane and scared that she doesn't even value her dignity anymore. She'd rather run around butt-ass-naked than let a crazy murderer get close to her.

Of course, a truly sane individual would fap to her pathetic, shameful display after that. Maybe in the next chapter or something. But never during the chapter itself.

>>18433847
Fapping to kids is pretty gay, anon. And not the good kind of gay.

>>18433788
Wait, why are they blaming MangaGamer? The original sprite is much more explicit. I guess these guys never read the original VN and only watched the anime or something

>>18433838
How can a man be so brainwashed as to permanently stop liking the girls he liked in elementary school?

Humans don't change their tastes, especially the sexual ones. We just appreciate more and more stuff as we grow up and develop new fetishes. You are not right as a human being. Seek help.

>>18433863
To be fair, MG's does was a pretty erotic version. Compare with the ps2/4's sprites.

>>18433871
It's fine, anon. You're just inside the closet, I understand.

>>18433856
How exactly is nudity linked to dignity?

How in the actual, literal fuck can Satoko lose her human dignity just because K1 saw her ass crack? You make no sense.

>>18433889
He's baiting if you didn't realize. Read the last part of his post, he's just a pedo.

Kanon: "Hmph, looks like he's taken his occult fanaticism as far as it could possibly go."

Why do I find this line so hilarious?

>>18433788
Only americans can get this upset over naked children

>>18433927
An entire country of cucks. I'd pity them if they were harmless, but they are always trying to censor my loli porn. Why don't they just give up and die?

>>18434011
Not even an amerifat, but lolifags needs to die.

>>18434040
You realize that thinking like that is a slippery slope to banning all anime related shit like VNs that you love so much.

>>18434064
Yes, so be it. It doesn't affect me in the least. Make all the cast male and problem solved.

>>18434084
are you retarded? female children are not the only ones targeted and harmed by people with the pedophile sickness

>>18434084
Why not leave other people alone and enjoy what you like? There's no need to censor anything, you nazi fuck.

>>18434096
I didn't say that, but it would helps to get rid of a big part of this annoying plague. It will never happen, but it is a good dream.

>>18434104
I do enjoy what I like, and push away what I don't like.

>>18434104
it's not a matter of what one likes or doesn't, it's a matter of protecting the innocence that children have a right to have, and to let them grow naturally.
i think satoko's sprite is harmless and anyone who complains is a lunatic. however, the sexualization and abuse of children should not be something that is normalized and celebrated.. i guess the moral line is more blurry when it comes to 2d works and it's not something i'm certain about, but i am certain that pedophelia is a sickness that should be treated, and is something that is painful on either side. it's like the black witch that was passed from one to the other in umineko. i know these things from experience and am not a frothing sjw

>>18434120
>I do enjoy what I like, and push away what I don't like.
thanks for confirming your retardation, it's time to grow up

>>18434190
I'm a little lost. If you agree with me why are you upset?

>>18434209
i don't necessarily agree with you. you are supporting censorship, and the reasoning behind your opinions are skewed. seems like it's just based off of strong emotions and hatred, rather than the logical consideration of what is right and wrong, of what is fair and prevents the most harm.
while it's horrible for children to be sexualized and can lead to ruined lives, that isn't the case for 2d characters. i think it would be horrible as well and a dystopian world if people were prevented from discussing fictional characters in lewd ways or making drawings like >>18433847

>>18434249
This isn't like covering with a blanket an ugly painting that doesn't match the wall. These idiot virgins doesn't simply shut up. They infest every discussion with their garbage. A show only needs to have a single underage character and they come running like sissies to ruin everything. I might be selfish, but if someday the censorship kills them I wouldn't care.

>>18434311
then again, follow my advice and grow up. throwing a tantrum over your inability to ignore something you find offensive/dislike is immature and sjw, and censorship is not the solution to anything at all (with the exception of legitimate childporn or snuff or something actually illegal). in fact, you could argue that if those people are pedophiles, then their fascination with fictional characters and drawings may prevent real children from being harmed.

i'd like to add that most people who rage over this topic irrationally are usually women who feel threatened that they've lost their value

>>18434348
>prevent real children from being harmed.
If only there was a way for the police to recognize those pigs and castrate them all, put them under surveillance and force them to take the garbage out of the streets with their hands for the rest of their life... It would be so wonderful.
>threatened that they've lost their value
That's stupid. Feeling disgust and rejection towards that kind of people is a normal way of thinking.

>>18434311
You could just ignore it, you know. I see fetishes I don't like on 4chan all the time (like NTR for instance), but I don't complain about them every time I see them. I just ignore it and move on. It's not that hard

>>18434443
I do sometimes, but I find enjoyable to make them miserable too. If they spoil my fun once, I'm going to ruin their fun twice.

>>18434501
Basest character in existence

>>18434394
>>18434474
You are a fucking psycho. Just because a few nutjobs harmed kids at some point doesn't mean that liking little girls automatically makes someone a bad person or an out of control rapist.

You are a piece of shit, dude. Go kill yourself.

>>18433857
>>18433847
This shit always baffles me. The only thing "11" about her is she's short and has big eyes and the author says she's 11. If you took a picture of her silhouette and made it a bit taller you wouldn't be able to tell what age she is. Actual 11-year-old kids aren't like that.

I'm pretty sure that's done on purpose, too. Kind of like how traps are also supposed to sexually confuse you.

I'd never fap to Satoko with a clear conscience, though.

>>18434988
I've never found anyone who likes this kind of stuff and is normal or likeable. They're all disgusting socially retarded trash who likes to erp like little girls attracted to pedos, like to talk like pedos and like to defend pedos. I just find it repulsive and gross and I would prefer it doesn't exist.
>Go kill yourself.
After you.

>>18435051
>I've never found anyone who likes this kind of stuff and is normal or likeable
Because most of them are intelligent enough to pretend they don't like lolis. Only the few autistic retards go around stalking kids and telling people about their loli doujin collection.

>>18434988
Oh, and let's not forget about their victim complex. The only funny thing about them is to see how they cry whenever reality hits them. This little chitchat is over now.

>>18434311
>They infest every discussion with their garbage
If you are triggered by the mention of little girls, get the hell out of here. Your complaints, insults and accusations always end up derailing the threads.

>>18435095
Not as much as you and the garbage you like. All the time you post shit all discussion stops or the topic changes.

>>18435110
Because people want to change the topic and talk about the lolis. If you have something interesting to bring up, just do it. I'm sure everyone will be interested.

You are the only one that dislikes it and fills the thread with hate and pointless crap. Let's stop this discussion already. People like you make me physically sick.

>>18435128
>Because people want to change the topic and talk about the lolis.
No, only you and three or four idiots more. I said in my last post to stop. You're the one who keeps complaining like a manchild, but fine.

I think that lewd anon and anti-lewd anon secretly love each other, cute!

2 samefags fighting about whether or not lolis are a good or a terrible thing. 2 other IPs comment once or twice to get more fuel to the fire.
Results:
One huge unnecessary derailment of this thread just because of a sexual discussion.

Might as well call the mods on ya and clean all this shit, stop fucking up this general please.

In other news, a life signal from Ryukishi at least.

But he only commented another single word on a retweet with a fanart -for the birthday of a Shigidan member- nothing to see here.

The only 2 times he commented in almost 3 weeks was basically 2 one liner retweets about fanart.

Might as well think he is doing it on purpose to keep any WTC news a secret.

2 more days and we'll enter 3 weeks without Ryu news...

>>18432529

>Instead, she was in a relationship with this fucking beta nerd who lived only for her sake and would probably go nuts if something went wrong with his waifu.

This is hilarious especially Ryukishi confirmed in an interview the exact opposite lol.

Is the George hate so mindless that people ignore even the decent things about him? Whatever happened to having love?

This fandom is so disgusting sometimes, I swear.

>>18436864
Well, I think George hate happens as a result of Yasu clearly favoring Battler.