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Look out! A crazy hag is killing everyone!

>>18381727

No love Rose Guns Days and Higanbana? Screw you, OP.

>>18381855
>italian seacats and edgy seacats
I'm still sad. They don't have a MangaGamer release nor the Alchemist magic for voices and art. I really wanted to see a updated Higanbana with voices.

I'm madly in love with Lady Lambdadelta!

I cummed with this panel
God damn I fucking hate Bernkastel

beato

>>18381690
what's happening in that image? why does eva look that way?

>>18382083
DEEN being DEEN

>>18382120
isn't that shion?

>>18382210
Or is it Mion?

I just finished the manga after reading through the vn.
I thought the catbox wasn't supposed to be opened? Why does the manga give the resolution despite adapting the magic ending? Did I just misunderstand the original message?

>>18382217
I hate the fact the manga exists. I hate goats to go on RK07's ass so much that he felt the need to print answers for idiots, despite going back on his original message of EP8.

>>18382233
I'm one of those goats. Hi!

>>18382213
pretty sure it's shion, mion never went full kookoo in the head.

>>18382244
Shion is Mion though.

>>18382210
Technically her name is Mion

>>18382246
>>18382250
ah ye, i forgot all about that.

>>18382242
I'll never get people like you anon.

>>18382300
Tell me what you do not understand.

>>18382233
Hey don't be mean, not everyone is a smart ass like you, Erika

>>18382083
Eva received the DEEN magic

>>18382233
Take a few inconsistencies and mistakes, add unreliable narration = perfect goat bait

>>18382678
What imconsistencies and mistakes?

why is this somehow nice?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3nIxCvXOUc

>>18382788
The entire segment on Hempel's raven is wrong beyond belief. If you just read the wikipedia article, it should be obvious. Trying to use a logical paradox as an argument is pretty stupid in the first place.
There are also smaller things like misnaming concepts (devil's proof should be problem of induction) and namedropping just for the sake of it (laplace's demon which is about the world being deterministic, not about being omniscient).

Issues in the non-meta narrative are kind of iffy, because they aren't really reliable. I know that some people take issue with things like eva searching for krauss and natsuhi in episode 3.

>>18381874
>not tarnished by Alchemist
>bad

Why are there two threads?

>>18382217
People despised the VN for not explaining everything and it almost ended Ryukishi's career. That's why Higanbana and RGD barely got any fanart. Ryukishi's fandom became a huge hatedom, people kept calling him a hack and very few people gave his next works a chance.

Hell, the reason EP8 was so hated when it first released doesn't have much to do with its actual flaws. People just hated it because they expected it to explain all the stuff that EP7 simply hinted at.

are there any more secrets like this? (is this even a secret?)

>>18385643
What secret?

>>18385604
Higurashi didn't explain much explicitly either, though?

>>18385687
The secret that glasses Dlanor is the best?

>>18385701

Higurashi explicitly revealed the true culprit, aka Takano, the truth behind the Hinamizawa syndrome and answered many other mysteries.

In comparison, Umineko's answers were less explicit and more vague and the fans didn't like that.

I just feel bad that Ryukishi is hated so much by certain people despite his works beings so well-written, layered and so, so human.

>>18385744
Hasn't it always been a problem with the Japanese and needing everything to be explained and out in the open when it comes to stories?

>lets buy Rosa/Erika background
>it's 30$
https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/753/550340-Erika%20and%20World%27s%20%231%20Mother
I guess unless you're into Rosatrice theory, there is no way to pay 30$ for it.

>>18385771
All the Golden Fantasia stuff is expensive.

>>18385744
It's what you have to do when writing a mystery novel. You need to give the masses an answer regardless or not it is true or false. Or they will throw a shit storm about it, like what happened to Ryukishi sadly.

>>18385828
All he wanted to do is have his readers think. I always have a bad opinion of something when they go on about how Featherine is just Ryukishi insulting all his readers when all he wants is readers to but in a little bit of thinking.

>>18382007
anon

https://tarabletranslation.wordpress.com/2016/01/24/when-they-cry-the-first-and-last-gift/amp/

Where did this TIP come from? It seems to take place after Umineko and is apparently an introduction to Hotarubi (which is almost completely translated by now).

>>18385841
this kind of denial is what resulted in rosatrice

>>18386034
BEATO

>>18386123
There is a difference between that and blatantly saying that Ryukishi is a liar and all the messages in Umineko is bullshit.

>>18385841
he wrote 8 fucking games to let people think about it. Not writing a proper explanation of things was just laziness

>>18386225

>>18385604
>people kept calling him a hack
His trickery to avoid Dine 11 was a hack, to be honest

>>18386236
Why do you feel entitled to a proper explanation to a mystery that you can't be bothered to solve. Besides if he was to give a explanation of Umineko it just be a lie.

>>18386267
ROSA

>>18386293
DELET THIS

>>18386115
It's from this book

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%86%E3%81%BF%E3%81%AD%E3%81%93%E3%81%AE%E3%81%AA%E3%81%8F%E9%A0%83%E3%81%AB-%EF%BD%9E%E6%9C%80%E5%BE%8C%E3%81%A7%E6%9C%80%E5%88%9D%E3%81%AE%E8%B4%88%E3%82%8A%E3%82%82%E3%81%AE%EF%BD%9E-%E7%AB%9C%E9%A8%8E%E5%A3%AB07-ebook/dp/B01EMR53DU/

>>18386236
Not everything needs to be spelt out. Episode 8's entire message is that the truth doesn't actually matter and it doesn't.

>>18386290
Because there is no way to verify your solution without an official explanation. The closest thing you're going to get is that it's "likely". It's even impossible to determine, whether there is a correct solution in the first place. There's a reason why puzzle books always come with explanations.

ryukishi's anti-mystery article shows how he so wonderfully misses the point in an incredibly condescending way.

>>18386290
>>18386352
>goat-kun thinks about the games on question arc for months
>goat-kun will never be able to verify his answers because the hack never wrote the solution
>goat-kun spent hours of his life to some hack tell him to leave it alone

You guys have no heart

>>18386380
>gets told answers
>goat-kun still makes his own theories like Rosatrice
It didn't stop shit, the only thing it did is ruin a message in Episode 8.

>>18385828
I'm pretty sure if that was the problem, people would have calmed down after the release of the manga.
I think the real problem is just the mysteries. They just aren't good enough. People expected some crazy mindfuck and instead they got something pretty anti-climactic. The answers not being spelled out wasn't the problem, but people weren't happy with the answers themselves.
The real focus of umineko isn't the mysteries, but it's not spelled out clearly enough, so a lot of people get disappointed.

>>18386363
>>18386385
It's not Ryukishi fault that the goats completely missed the point that the main mystery of Umineko is Beatrice and not who the culprit is in the prime fragment.

>>18386385
>goat-kun still makes his own theories like Rosatrice
But Goat-kun is actually smarter than his fellow turbogoats

My point is you can't actually write some elaborated trickery game and not write the solutions, people will get mad, even if they know that these games means nothing to the story.

>>18386421
But the answer is a crazy mind fuck and not some lame thing like multiple personality. If that was indeed the answer Erika would have found it out in chapter 6. To assume she couldn't figure out that lame of a mystery means you didn't realize how smart she is.

>>18386456
Erika didn't firgure out shanon = kanon in chapter 5 when we first meet her is cause she saw both of them in the parlor.

>>18386426
uh, yes it is? He should have made it clear relatively on that the two aren't directly connected.

>>18386421
Any guy who reads the question arc for the first time will build a expectative to get the solutions and understand what the fuck is happening. You can't just cut these expectation with "That's not how I wanted to my games be", that is the ryukishi's fault and this almost fucked his career.

>>18386426
It isn't his fault and it sucks people attacked him for not getting the message of a long VN after having years to talk and theorize about it.

>>18386279
>avoid Dine 11
That was only stated in red in a separate case that has nothing to do with Beatrice's gameboard.

>>18386469
>she saw both of them in the parlor
Lambda is a bad gamemaster too

>>18386363
All the readers who actively tried to solve the mystery understood everything long before the manga. Especially if they quickly replayed certain parts of the previous episodes like you are supposed to.

>no way to verify your solution
When you find the true answer and absolutely everything points to it when you reread the story, it's basically a confirmation.

>>18386352
Not only is the message pretty stupid (especially for a 'mystery' game), it comes with basically no build up or justification beside "muh love". Either swallow it or be happy with the edgy trick ending.

>>18386426
Why is everyone so obsessed with the "truth" of Prime? All you need to know is what the culprit planned to do and who could become an accomplice if given the chance. That explains Beatrice and all the closed rooms. Who cares about the real events that ended up happening?

>>18386534
t.
How do you explain the hackery on episode 4?

>>18386456
>multiple personality
Do you even know what a personality IS?

>>18386538

Nice try, but it is common knowledge that Umineko is not just a 'mystery game'. It is far more than that. And the game has been about love since like episode 2.

>>18386554
The truth doesn't even matter, everyone died and we saw what happened to Eva's legacy.

>>18386554

Why would the people NOT care? The question is 'what actually happened on Rokkenjima?' and the premise of the entire story is built on the idea that no one has a fucking clue what happened on Rokkenjima.

It is only natural people will want to know the truth.

>>18386534
Let me guess, you're not generally interested in puzzles/mysteries, right?
If you think you have a solution literally everything can look like support. A lot of the time you can misinterpret some crucial detail and end up somewhere completely different.

People who believe retarded shit like rosatrice also constantly reread it, seeing 'confirmation' everywhere.

>>18386469
>>18386533
That scene was narrated by Battler, not by Erika. It's a trick of Lambda's.

Also, all that stuff about "everyone" being in the parlor was only relevant to the meta discussion. Piece Erika never believed or claimed that everyone was there.

Alternatively, Piece Erika never met Kanon at all in EP5. There was no Kanon for her. If you reread the episode, you'll notice that.

The gameboard works like a game of D&D. Meta Erika says that she will do something and the game master acknowledges it. Erika as a character in the gameboard doesn't have to know everything Meta Erika does. She didn't know about Kanon. And her Meta version was tricked by Piece Battler's narration, which claimed that Kanon was there.

>>18386565
>And the game has been about love since like episode 2.
Having love as a theme justifies love > truth in what way exactly?

>>18386612
Is this actually based on something or just rationalization? I see a lot of people making a lot of claims about the meta world, but I don't remember anything concrete ever being stated.

>>18386612
In the manga she says that she thought he was preparing her room

>>18386622

>Not only is the message pretty stupid (especially for a 'mystery' game), it comes with basically no build up or justification beside "muh love"

You claimed there was no build up to the theme love, which is utter bullshit. Anyone who even bothered to pay attention to Umineko would notice the build up.

And the message of 'love > truth' was primarily directed at Ange, not the readers themselves. You know, because Ange LOST HER FUCKING FAMILY.

>>18386585
After having basically everything spelled out for you in EP7 and rereading the earlier episodes, it's impossible not to realize how the crimes were carried out and who the culprit is. Hell, the MAN from 19 years ago, the fact that Yasu is clearly raised as a GIRL, the heavy focus on romance and all the talk about the golden land being a metaphor for death/Heaven makes it painfully obvious that the culprit did all of this because he got his body fucked up as a baby and would rather kill himself than let his love interests know about his secret and reject him.

By the way, it's all Genji's fault for sending Yasu to a Christian orphanage where they feed him bullshit about the afterlife and giving him access to a bomb that can easily get rid of all of his problems so he doesn't have to face them.

This does not matter anymore, he tricked and made fun of goats on Umineko and real life, then the goats got their revenge later.

>>18386676
>>18386559

>>18386676
Because everyone was on absolutely the same page after the release of 7, right?
Until the manga cleared everything up, there were still people who had doubts/different interpretations despite rereading it often enough.

>>18386641
The manga also says that Eva was a bribed accomplice in EP3. And that the man from 19 years ago was always played by the same person in every call. I disagree with those and have different theories that fit both the red and the themes of the story.

The manga is just an interpretation. It may be the official interpretation, but the whole point of the VN was that any interpretation is correct as long as it fits the red AND the magical narrative.

I'm not claiming that Rosatrice is valid or anything like that. I'm just saying that all the little details about how exactly everything was carried out and what exactly Shkanon did every single moment are unfixed and you can imagine it however you want.

Especially the creepy phone calls in EP5. Regardless of what the manga says, I have my own interpretation of those. The VN allows several possible "truths" and I chose the one that I liked the best.

Everything outside the original VN is simply an interpretation of the author. Including the PS3 voice acting.

>>18386658
>You claimed there was no build up to the theme love, which is utter bullshit
Are you illiterate or just retarded? The message of "truth doesn't matter" is what has basically no build up.

>And the message of 'love > truth' was primarily directed at Ange, not the readers themselves
so? Doesn't make it a not shitty message for the last episode.

Also, acting like deluding yourself is somehow the inherently superior option is ridiculous. The trick ending is basically a strawman, what with the magic ending basically just being a miracle.

>>18386745
you can't use that in an argument though. I mean, you can, but it's kind of dishonest

>>18386745
>And that the man from 19 years ago was always played by the same person in every call.
It doesn't say that actually. It only says that Yasu carried out the call on the morning of the 5th. The other calls aren't mentioned

>>18386745

>I don't give a fuck about the official solutions provided by Ryukishi himself, I prefer my own theories.

Man, that art with Battler pierced by red truth sword was pure KINO

>>18386760

>Are you illiterate or just retarded? The message of "truth doesn't matter" is what has basically no build up.
Nah, you are merely incapable of phrasing your sentence correctly. Thanks for correcting yourself.

>so? Doesn't make it a not shitty message for the last episode.
It does not? What are you trying to prove here? I see no rational arguments, just a guy insulting others because they disagree with him.

>Also, acting like deluding yourself is somehow the inherently superior option is ridiculous. The trick ending is basically a strawman, what with the magic ending basically just being a miracle.

>Battler survives except it's not really Battler and Ange doesn't get to see him for many, many years.
>When she sees him, it's not actually her brother but a complete stranger who doesn't actually want anything to do with Ange.
>Ange ends up getting cancer.

Yes, total miracle bro. Gotta love these happy endings.

>>18386786
I accept the manga as Ryukishi's official answer to the VN, but I like how the VN itself allows you fill in the details however you want. I consider the manga a retelling of the story with more defined answers, rather than the exact same story. It's still practically identical, but there are some differences, like the Erika vs Battler fight in EP8.

I always thought that the very first phone call (before the start of the game) was from Yasu and all the others were from Battler. I really dislike how Daisuke Ono plays the man every single time in the PS3 version, even thought it completely contradicts Natsuhi's description of the man's voice during the first phone call. How can you describe that as "a boy whose voice hasn't broken yet"? How can it be "too early to be sure that this person is a man"?

To me, this is more proof that Umineko was never meant to have voice acting in the first place. There is no way to do it without either fucking something up, forcing a certain interpretation where the original text was ambiguous or spoiling who the person talking actually is.

Also, while the voice acting is pretty great in general, I find Berune and Kanon's voices incredibly grating in certain scenes. I'd rather imagine the voices myself. That way, I can read at my leisure and the action scenes don't lose their impact. Voices make the fights feel too slow, break the immersion when you accidentally skip them mid-sentence and force the music to loop three times instead of just one. Awkward. Ryukishi didn't choose the length of the tracks or the length of the scenes with voice acting in mind.

>>18386832
How is
>[the message] comes with basically no build up or justification beside "muh love"
not phrased correctly? Especially considering that I replied to someone who was explicitly stating the message of episode 8.

>It does not? What are you trying to prove here? I see no rational arguments, just a guy insulting others because they disagree with him.
I've literally stated that the message is stupid (i.e. I don't see why anyone would agree with it), especially for a mystery (as it runs contrary to what mysteries are about) and has absolutely no justification. You've done nothing but deflected with things like "oh, it's not JUST a mystery game", "there's buildup for the theme of love" and "the message isn't directed at us" which are all piss poor arguments refuting nothing of what I've said.

>Yes, total miracle bro. Gotta love these happy endings.
In comparison to the trick ending. There is one ending that is bittersweet and one that is absolutely hopeless for no real reason. Also you're painting a lot bleaker picture of the ending. Why are you being deliberately obtuse?

>>18386805
How the fuck am I making any theories? I'm just saying that I prefer to fill in the blanks of the VN instead of accepting the manga interpretation.

Believing that Gohda was killed first in EP1 while the manga says otherwise is not a different theory. It doesn't really affect any of the events. The VN left it ambiguous for a reason. It never went into detail about how exactly Yasu killed the first six victims in each game or WHAT in the world everyone was doing during EP4. You can imagine what you want as long as it makes sense. That doesn't mean it's a "different theory" that goes against the official explanation revealed in EP7.

The degradation of Ushiromiya Angste.

>>18387270
Ange is pure

>>18387274
She has a butt.

When God expelled Adam and Eve from paradise, He used His holy sword of fire to slice the bottom part of their torso, thus creating the butt. After that day, they were forced to survive in the human world and eat unholy food full of impurities that they had to shit out of their anuses.

The butt crack is a mark of shame that has been passed down from generation to generation. That's what "child of man" means. Featherine is making fun of Ange because she's a child of man and therefore her butt is split in two. Witches do not have a butt crack or an asshole, because they are not lowly humans.

Ange's ass. The most shameful part of her body. The part where Ange's back loses its noble name.

Holy crap, some salty goats invaded this one thread.

I would even try considering their arguments here, if every single piece of information necessary to understand Umineko wasn't already inside the story and didn't need any of the manga to further explain it.

In a reread is almost obvious, the thing is that people don't really bother to reread behemoth sized works like Umineko, much less just after finishing it. You could blame the size, but not the content, it's what I think at least.

And hell, we discussed this whole thing back in like, 2014, and this same topic returns at least once a year (probably remaining anons from the hatedom era of the fanbase in here, deciding to make part of the discussions once again).

Should I make a pasta for this kind of discussion at this point, I wonder...

>>18386898
Eva obaa-san looks like she's been hooked oh krokodil for a few years now.

>>18387358
I'm pretty sure that witches can adopt any form they want. I bet Ramuda keeps her butt so she and Berun can do kinky stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahUwbtVW7VA

was surprised by this, and how much stuff they got right, either they actually have played the VN and know shit and were just trying to piss of hardcore fans or actually were completely obvious but managed to deduce things because R07 crafted everything so good.

Look out! A seacat is going to enter the classroom!

>>18387951
as someone who watches their stuff, I can guarantee none of them have read the VN

>>18387358
Isn't that literally part of the Evangelion lore?

>>18387533
>Should I make a pasta for this kind of discussion at this point, I wonder...
Do it faggot

>>18388257
Holy crap, some salty goats invaded this one thread.

I would even try considering their arguments here, if every single piece of information necessary to understand Umineko wasn't already inside the story and didn't need any of the manga to further explain it.

In a reread is almost obvious, the thing is that people don't really bother to reread behemoth sized works like Umineko, much less just after finishing it. You could blame the size, but not the content, it's what I think at least.

And hell, we discussed this whole thing back in like, 2014, and this same topic returns at least once a year (probably remaining anons from the hatedom era of the fanbase in here, deciding to make part of the discussions once again).

Should I make a pasta for this kind of discussion at this point, I wonder...

>>18388263
based

>>18388268
Beatriz Blanca está basada.

>>18388263
I think that everyone should replay Umineko at least once, the whole story becomes so much better going through it the second time and all the answers are so obvious.

>>18387951
>She's shooting the whole orphanage at you

Spat out my fucking drink.

Reminder to brainlets.

>>18389347
Nah don't pretend you knew the answer before it was revealed.

>>18388231
Maybe rising superstar liam told them some stuff.

>>18389347

What is this supposed to be?

>>18390816
some guy pretending he solved the epitaph

Just how cute is Maria?

>>18391920
A girl's cuteness can be measured by the size of her breasts. Therefore, Maria isn't cute at all.

>>18391920
What if Maria is such a dumb loli kodomo kid that she isn't even aware of her own cuteness?

>>18391948
Cuteness is a mysterious thing. Rena is super cute, but she doesn't seem to realize it. She'd rather hoard cute objects than look at her own image reflected in a mirror.

Why can't cute girls appreciate their own cuteness?

>>18392137
You're wrong. Breast size is the only factor.

How do I stop hearing the voice of a witch in my head? She keeps talking to me about "the desert of fate", "the line", "dimming star" and various other terms that sound like they come right out of some chuuni VN.

>>18393582
Spiral Matai.

>>18393637
What's that?

anyone know where i can download the vn soundtrack

Been going through Higurashi again recently, was wondering if there's been any new content since 2011 or if that was the last of it.

Is Bern a jobber? She couldn't win against Lambda alone and was shitted on by fucking Battler.
She also made the same mistake that Erika did: trusting on the red truth alone. In the end, she couldn't win against Ange.

Auaurora is a hack, she is OP as fuck.

>>18393994
I just grabbed the files directly from the download directory of the game.

Why was Bern so soft as the Game Master?

I expected her to turn Maria, Jessica and Ange into a human caterpillar, eternally swallowing each other's shit. Now that would make Battler despair!

Please, no more rosatrice in umineko threads.

>>18394717
Thou shalt hide Rosatrice posts

Ange became so popular!

>>18394724
Will do, with the weird french guy is enough.

>>18394774
Erika is a fucking loser lol.

>>18394785

>>18394803
I Love lambda!

>>18394838

>>18394692
yeah but then its messy with no track numbers or anything, also sound is very low quality.

i know for a fact they put the soundtrack on a disc i just dont know where to find a decent rip

>>18394803

>>18394936
>a disc
The problem is that the soundtrack was released on many seperate discs because it.was made by many different artists. There is no single disc that has all of it so you'll probably have to download a bunch of different CDs to get the whole thing

Also, a few tracks (like Dread of the Grave for instance) have never been released on disc at all. Those tracks are unfortunately only available as the low quality .ogg files from the game

Could Erika solve the chain of mysterious deaths in Hinamizawa?

>>18395027
No Dine, no Knox, no detective power... I think she couldn't.

>>18394803
Smug Batora

>>18394746
>ange as gyaru

A nice anon on /v/ ripped the Umineko PS3 theme backgrounds. I don't think we had those before.

https://imgur.com/a/uL6eV
https://imgur.com/a/j4Xhl

>>18395112
I have an even better Erika somehow

>>18395116
Slut

>>18395109
I want to marry Ange!

She is cute.

>>18395128
>she

>>18395128
>She
I hate this meme.

>>18395126

>>18395150
why does she crouch like that?

>>18394710
I wonder what their relationship would be like after going through that and being released.

Probably awkward as hell! Lewd!

Thank god umineko didn't came out recently. Imagine all the trapfags infesting these threads in the current year.

>>18394936
>sound is very low quality
Seriously? It sounds fine during the story, which is where you are supposed to be hearing the music in the first place.

>>18395150
Cute, cute

>>18395167
We would still despise trapfags

>>18395159
Flatulency is a common thing in Ange.

>>18395128
Lion is a fantasy character, so I'm fine with him being a girl. Real Lion never existed, but he'd probably be much more manly.

Erika is also a fantasy character. We don't know what the real Erika was like.

Post cute Ange

>>18395193
Loli Ange is cute, but angsty teenage Ange with a hairy pussy and a defiant attitude despite being a pathetic victim of bullying is CUTER. I want to break her.

>>18395193

>>18395207
Do not lewd Ange! You want to make she suffer even more, you monster?

>>18395232
Foot is the worst tier 1 fetish

>>18395248

>>18386585
Yes, rosatricefags even use the names of some bgm as a proof.

>>18395327
How do they explain the fucking castrato tracks with Rosatrice? A red herring?

>>18395575
Did the Vatican actually cut off kid's balls in the past so they could sing better? That's crazy.

>>18395575
80% of rosatrice is based on "red herring" so don't be surprised.

What PROOF is there that actually goes against Rosatrice in Beato's games?

>>18395787
Holy shit just read the manga.
This is a prime example of a turbogoat.

>>18395794
In the VNs, not the Manga, goat-kun.

>>18395787
not going to lie, i don't know much about the how dunnit in rosatrice (i don't really care actually) but the there isn't actual proof of a love interest from Rosa to Battler.

>>18395794
You can't just write a new thing and claim that it is literally the other thing but somehow different too, that's not how it works at all.

>>18395794
>Manga

>likes the Umineko manga

Just kill yourself. Stop being a fucking goat and just focus on the visual novel, not the piece of shit R07 was forced to write.

The manga is not canon anyway.

>>18396450
The images in the manga at least look good.

>>18396450
Stop deluding yourself. It is canon and nothing you say will prevent it from being so.

>>18396474

The manga reveals too many mysteries and completely ruins the point of Umineko.

>>18396511
I think the entire idea of the manga kind of spits in the face of EP8 and it doesn't sit comfortably with me.

Why are there no POC in Umineko? Or Higurashi? Or <insert any R07 work here>?

Is he racist?

>>18396511
Oh I completely agree with you. However, that doesn't mean that the manga is not canon though.

>>18396511
>>18396524

You guys are autists. There is actually nothing wrong with the manga.

Wh...what manga? Hehehhh. Hahahahaha.

>>18396613
You're drunk Ange, it's time for you to stop posting.

>>18396615
She is a bad girl isn't she

>>18396605

Are you BLIND? The manga shits all over Ryukishi and Umineko. Anyone who genuinely likes it is a goat. Ryukishi told me that he never wanted to write it, and I fully agree with him. It's so fucking disrespectful that he was forced to write this garbage.

>>18396777
The manga is actually a lot better than the VNs on question arc

>>18396613
Is this before she's stripped naked by goats and licked all over?

>>18395112
Here is the actual themes if you still have a PS3.

FAT32 USB stick, P3T files go to usb:/PS3/THEME/*.p3t
Caps is mandatory, PS3 is FreeBSD based after all.

Stick drive to PS3 and go to themes, choose theme. The upper part of the sidebar has "install" option.

Just the same official themes with the protection ripped.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/z574tgm29rektjo/THEME.zip

>>18396954
Noice

>>18395207
The humiliation of Oosheeromeeya Angste.

I started playing Higurashi and I like it a lot, I started Tataragaroshi. Do you guys have any recommendations for similar VNs? I love the sense of dread and paranoia it instils. I'm planing to read Umineko as well

I wish I had love.

>>18397448
Love the witches, and receive their love in turn.

>>18397484
I don't know how to love.

>>18397489
Sell your soul to them for love, then.

>>18397500
I don't know how to sell my soul.

>>18397448
I wish I had love and time

>>18397507
Run outside naked under the full moon and shout towards the heavens that you will sell your soul to a witch/lambdy/bernie/etc for love, as loud as possibly can, three times, then run and dance around like a spastic until you collapse, exhausted.

>>18397549
I already did something similar but with edgy poetry that I wrote myself and Yukari instead of a witch yet it didn't work.

>>18395160
I bet that Ange or Jessica secretly liked it!

>>18397576
Can you and the other guy fuck off?

>>18396797
Low quality bait

Especially for EP1, for showing Shannon's dead corpse much like the anime.

>>18397551
Oh? You're probably on the right track, just keep trying, I'm not quite sure what edgy poetry might entail but I'm sure Yukari will probably appreciate any honest appeal to her. Do you dream of her?

>I will never have a gf like ange
Suffering

>>18397617

>>18397614
I used to dream of her. I call that period of time in my life "the dreamlike days". Then I stopped dreaming of her and became depressed. I doubt everything now and am plagued by thoughts of not knowing anything. In my eyes, "love" is "trust". Since I can't trust anyone or anything I have no love.

>>18397551
>>18397637
Are you having an emotional breakdown because you are going to spend your valentine's day alone? hahaha

>>18397630
Yamero ;_;

>>18397639
I'm never alone because I hear voices in my head.

>>18397645
Sad.

>>18397598
I'm pretty sure the VN also shows the Shannon dead ccorpse. What the hell are you even talking about

>>18397660
It never shows it, you were only told about it by Hideyoshi.

>>18397665
O-Oi, I don't remember this, what the hell. I clearly remember the Shannon dead corpse screen with ps3 sprites.

Time to read it again, I guess

>>18397679

>>18397657
It is.

>>18397637
Try sleeping with a picture of Yukarin under your pillow, sleeping with a Yukarin fumo, praying to Yukarin for Yukarin dreams before bed, writing out Yukarin's name 888 times before bed, telling yourself you will dream of Yukarin once again over and over every day until she comes back, if none of this works for an extensive period, I'm sorry.

>>18397684
Wew, I guess I'm a turbogoat too.

>>18397715
Replaying Umineko is a fantastic experience and you should do it anyways.

>>18397691
Also if you used to have dreams of her and haven't already you should recount and write them down.

>>18397679
>ps3 sprites
>on a first read
Literally why.

>>18397732
Because they look better.

>>18397732
Fuck off with your ugly sprites.

>>18397730
I already write them down in these threads. That's what the mindblowing posts are.

>>18397732
Wouldn't be able to read it without voices and Spic Battler.

>>18397752
Original sprites.

>>18397742
>>18397747
Enjoy your shit taste. I'm glad I'm not artistically blind like you.

>>18397760
Are you fucking kidding me

>>18397765
Ryukishi doesn't like it as well retard.

>>18397772
When it comes to the original sprites, I never joke. I am an extreme original sprite purist and it isn't even nostalgia, I played the game only a year ago.

>>18397776
of course he does, he was just being humble. ryukishi is an incredible artist/designer, and the character expressions have remained unmatched.

enjoy your bleached, conventional animu sprites

>>18397814
If you said so. Enjoy sucking Ryukishi's dick faggot.
>enjoy your bleached, conventional animu sprites
Thanks, I will.

>>18397814
Only argument against original sprite is always "muh giant hands" even though everything is vastly superior. Hands in general are a nightmare to draw but the expressions in Umineko and Higurashi are unmatched.

>>18397732

Because they are superior and not shitty like the original ones? Also, the amazing voice acting. Honestly, superior in every single way.

>>18397829
muh everything except the expressions

>>18397837
I admit the voice acting is god but I feel like they are better on a second playthough.

>>18397829
you can tell that ryukishi understands the general form of the hand. i personally think they are cute and fitting to the overall appearance.
>>18397837
we just had the discussion how umineko is meant to be read without voice acting, because it can be misleading at certain points. also, define shitty because that alone is meaningless.
>>18397840
he does clothing really well, beatrice's sleeves distracted me a lot while playing because they were so well drawn. his colors are spot on as well. the only complaint i'd have is inconsistencies between the sizes of the characters but that is minor.

>>18397859
The sizes of characters are much worse in regards to PS3 backgrounds.i

>>18397797
A true ryukishi cocksucker indeed
I couldn't read higurashi with original sprites, even DEEN quality is better

>>18397877

>>18397877
Higurashi I can understand people not liking them. I personally like the sprites but they could be smaller but I completely understand using PS2 sprites for Higurashi. Umineko though I can't understand.

You know what's hilarious?

Original sprite lovers always judge PS3 sprite lovers.

But PS3 sprite lovers never judge the original sprite lovers.

Just goes to show who are the biggest cunts in this fandom. Gj, guys!

>>18397912
Are you blind?
>>18397747
>>18397765
>>18397827
>>18397837
>>18397877

>>18397814
*blocks your path*

>>18397932

The arguments only started because an original sprite fan suddenly questioned a random guy's decision to play Umineko with PS3 sprites.

Cunts, all of you.

>>18397943
stop being butthurt you look like a kid, none of the original sprite proposers hasn't leaned on petty insulting like you and just presented their opinions like normal people.

>>18397958

Grow up. I have yet to see an original sprite fan who acknowledges that PS3 sprites aren't THAT bad or who doesn't judge someone for playing with PS3 sprites.

I only see self-absorbed, arrogant purists.

>>18397968
see
>>18397888

Who cares about ps3 umineko? We will never see the Alchemist magic on Higanbana and RGD

>>18397968
PS3 sprites are pretty uninspired and pretty generic. I see why people like them but they also probably like the looks of a lot of generally popular anime.

>>18397968
Why are you in such a rage that people have their own tastes and aren't acknowledging yours?

>>18397979
>>18397942

>>18397985
*searches creepy anime girl on google images*

>>18397988
But aren't we discussing the PS3 sprites you motherfucker

>>18397985
The CGs are for the most part are shit and creepy faces don't make it better, I think it sends a weird message. There are some fantastic Alchemist CGs but a lot of them aren't really that great or necessary.

>>18397982

I'm in rage that original sprite fans are such cunts, desu. If PS3 sprite fans can respect them, why can't the respect be mutual?

>>18398019
i don't think throwing around insults and acting like a kid is going to garner any respect, or is showing respect for that matter

>>18398005
> The CGs are for the most part are shit

>>18398036
For the most part yes, there are some 10/10 CGs though.

>sprite arguments
>again
I thought you fuckers read Umineko but it's like some of you only acknowledge one of the biggest messages it had when it's convenient for you.

>>18398026

I'm not talking about myself, you idiot. This just shows how utterly awful you are. Instead of recognizing the shitty treatment of PS3 fans in this fandom, you guys just proceed with the same old arguments. Laughable.

>>18398058
Sprite or Manga?

>>18398058
shhhhhh... Are you trying to wake up the R. shitposter

>>18398064
what are you even talking about or want at this point?

>>18398064
What are you even going on about?

I want to be a witch. How do I become one?

The Ten Commandments of 07th Expansion threads

1. Thou shalt not talk about the forbidden theory.
2. Thou shalt avoid the shitposters.
3. Thou shalt respect hard working goats.
4. Thou shalt not lewd the characters.
5. Thou shalt respect the Umineko manga.
6. Thou shalt read Higurashi, Higanbana and Rose Guns Days.
7. Thou shalt not be a intellectual rapist.
8. Thou shalt buy official game releases.
9. Thou shalt avoid any anime adaptation
10. Thou shalt always have a big heart.

>>18398102
Cute Erika
Would she love me if I repeat in red truth that I love her?

>>18398086

Don't judge people for things they like. Don't talk shit about people because they like something you don't. Don't act like your preferences are objectively superior. Simply put, don't be a fucking cunt.

This is mainly addressed to the fans of Ryukishi's original sprites who feel the constant need to laugh and mock people who play with any other sprites. It's perpetual, toxic behavior that no one ever bothers to address, and it is so ridiculous when you consider that such "fans" of Ryukishi's works, which speak at length about bullying, go as far to bully and mock others for liking different things.

If you STILL don't understand what I'm going on about, then I can't help you.

P.S.

The only reason "sprite wars" ever happen is because certain people are unable to deal with the fact that there are people out there who simply do not prefer Ryukishi's original sprites.

>>18397979
Why wouldn't one like objectively better looking stuff. Clean and shit.
One important aspect is that a fuckload of Umineko recognition would not have come without both Higurashi's and Umineko's anime adaptations (my current interest coming from Higurashi anime)

The original artwork for sure is an acquired taste, and much like with beer and spirits, not every taste is acquired by everyone. By the very least you can understand how jarring that original artwork is for someone who's interest to any of these properties came from anything else but the absolutely original games.

TL;DR: Clean and sexy shit is clean and sexy - not that hard to understand why some have the preference.

>>18398221
this was all carried out by you, you being the only one who was "toxic" and throwing unnecessary insults. if it wasn't for your childish behavior and rage it would have been a normal back and forth discussion comparing opinions and tastes, which any normal person would not get this upset over. go take a breather

can somebody please post that oversize sumire trollface from higanbana? would be much appreciated.

>>18397598
It's established in the manga that things can be depicted if everyone that "sees" it is in on it, so there's nothing wrong with Shannon's corpse being shown. Battler doesn't see her corpse

It's the same as the scenes where Shannon and Kanon are shown together. If the detective doesn't see something it can be depicted as anything

>>18398221
>The only reason "sprite wars" ever happen is because certain people are unable to deal with the fact that there are people out there who simply do not prefer Ryukishi's original sprites.
It could also be an excuse to shitpost and for both sides to pretend being retarded, whether or not they're aware the other side is doing the same thing.

>>18397837
You probably think the Rebuilds of Evangelion look better than the hand drawn anime and movie.

>>18397942
This shitty CG makes the scene funny/cringy when it was originally meant to be serious.

>>18398459

>my opinion is superior because i'm old-school

jfc. kys.

>>18398235
>better looking stuff. Clean and shit.
Are you fucking kidding me? The original sprites have a more interesting look and are clearly hand-draw. The PS3 ones look fine, but they look like they were drawn on a computer or some shit. The lines make them look like CG trash.

Compare the art style of Gunbuster with a modern anime. Even if both look good, Noriko's face is charming as fuck. It just looks better. It's the same with Ryukishi's art. Sprites feel more alive when they are slightly off model.

I find it funny that people complain about the PS3 sprites and CGs, but no one ever complains about the witch portraits even though they were drawn by the same guy

>>18398511
I'm not old-school, I literally watched the new stuff first. And it looks great, but it's missing the charm of old animation.

You probably think that Sailor Moon Crystal LOOKS better or cleaner than the original series. How can anyone have such terrible taste?

>>18398553
Portraits are colored and stylized in a nice way, sprites look like generic anime.

>>18398553
The existence of the portraits was intended by the author. Also, they don't replace a scene that was originally told with character sprites.

I like CGs in other VNs, but it's obvious that emphasizing the importance of a scene with a cringy, over the top CG is not Ryukishi's style.

Wouldn't it be incredibly cheesy if an exaggerated CG of Shannon crying anime tears appeared during the "furniture" scene of EP7? It would be even more cringy than usual because the scene is so short. You'd be like "wtf, that CG disappeared too quickly", completely taking you out of the story and reminding you that you are playing a VN.

SOMETIMES I GIVE MYSELF THE CREEPS
SOMETIMES MY MIND PLAYS TRICKS ON ME
IT ALL KEEPS ADDING UP
I THINK I'M CRACKING UP
AM I JUST PARANOID?
AM I JUST STONED?

>>18398647
Lion is grill? Or no?

>>18398765
He sure isn't a grill.

>>18398765
Lion is an agender queen demisexual furry mage lvl 40.

OwO what's this?

>>18393994
Grab the lossless collection off one of the nu-nyaas. As >>18395012 says, not all songs exist in higher quality than they did in game as some were never released on disc. SB Yune in particular hasn't released a CD of any of his Umineko songs.

Honestly though, most songs that had quality problems didn't really change much. Even with the quality being supposedly higher as it was ripped from a CD, there are still fuzzy clipping issues in the right speaker side of CORE for example. Higher quality fuzziness, great stuff.

>>18396954
PS3 and Vita piracy has gotten better recently with NoPayStation. If you have ownership of the themes and can dump the keys, anyone can DL the encrypted files from Sony and decrypt using said keys. That being said, this sort of decrypted theme still works but is subject to DMCAs.

>buyfag
>obsessed with Umineko
>Umineko has a distinct lack of merchandise
>feel empty inside

>>18399041
You should buy those pachislot machines

>>18399050
I haven't seen any of them listed anywhere I looked. I am pretty interested in this but it's pretty expensive as a non-dollfag.

>>18398980
Sure.
But I ripped them back in 2015 when none of this existed. I do not think I have used the actual account to redownload my themes since 2015 plus the account I had the themes on is kinda lost now.

>>18395116
No you don't fucker

>>18399146
K1 is my boy, clothes women are the best.

>>18399041
Same, i want at least a figma of Lion ;_;

>>18399146
What piece of clothing is the least intrusive? I don't want my cute anime girl to remain human by keeping her socks. I wanna see her lewd feet!

>>18399784
that would be a collar

>>18398152
nice one, please post this in every thread from now on

>>18399146
>mangagamer release of higurashi never
>no voice and graphics patch for ep 6 ~ 8

Suffering

>>18398152
so, not reading umineko is ok?

>>18399146
What patch gives you that textbox?

>>18399062
I'm interested too, and it's expensive as a dollfag.

>>18400093
https://github.com/07th-mod

Works only with mangagamer release. That also means this >>18399854

>>18400143
Does the umineko mod have an option for text boxes or is it as god intended it no matter what?

>>18400200
Not the release from the github link I posted before
This have textbox, but only for ep 1 - 4
https://nyaa.si/view/912174

>>18400211
>https://nyaa.si/view/912174
Thank you.

When will you accept that Ikuko=Yasu?

>>18400114
she is the best aunt! she is a miracle of the universe!

>>18400288
Well that is an acceptable theory desu.

>>18400314
I want a dedicated, cute and perfect wife like Natsuhi!

It's the 14th, did someone mention LOVE?

>>18400368
Fuck off faggots, this is a special day for me and my gf Ange!

>erika gives you some handmade chocolate
>wants to you repeat it in red that you liked it

>>18400368
Pls no duel, thanks.

>>18399784
Chokers. They are the sexiest thing when the girl has short hair. Rebecca Chambers. Kairi. Maya Ibuki. Hikari Yagami (02). They are all the best girls in their respective series, and it's thanks to the brownish short hair + choker combo.

Hideyoshi and Lion are objectively the best uncles.

>>18400558
The good version of Kairi had red hair. And the Evangelion loser doesn't wear a choker.

the steam version of higurashi is good? i want to read higurashi.

The fact that Ange's literally got tits. Minderino blowingerina.

>>18401293
What the fuck are you implying

>>18401127
It's fine.

>>18401514
k, im going to buy onikakushi.

>>18401541
Hope you have fun anon and you're not spoiled.

>almost a year since Meakashi was released
MANGAGAMEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR

>>18401565
It sucks because Tsumihoroboshi-hen is my favorite Episode.

>>18399146
>Naked isn't hot.
That's just K1's usual BS.

>>18400421
Screw you Erika, fucking failure.

happy valentine's day

hope you all find someone who loves you as much as kinzo loved kuwadorian beatrice.

>>18402172
D-Dont be mean, she only wants someone who loves her, with the blessing of red truth

>>18403431
Lolis are too immature to actually love someone else.

Why live?

Oi Keiichi you sick maggot

Who is better protagonist, Keiichi or Battler?

>>18403497
Battler because Erika and Bernkastel fights

>>18403497

Keiichi is a persona created by Battler. He actually wants to take Rena in his white horse.

>>18403475
The fact that Satoko is an immature preteen loli is just mindblowing. She's so cute, but she's actually an undeveloped human being. She is less than human! Cute! Humiliating! Pathetic! Lewd!

I bet she doesn't even realize how immature she is. Lolis do and say really cringy stuff believing it makes them look cool. Mindblowing! I want Satoko to know how much of a subhuman she is.

>>18403525
Renatrice?

>>18403536
Kindly shut this down, sir.

>>18403497
K1 cries more, but he also gets shit done and kills people who are a waste of space.

How many psychos did Batora kill? How many chairs did he block with his head?
None, because he spent the whole time drinking tea and eating delicious cookies in purgatory.

>>18403525
Rena is such a fucking pervert. She is the only character that lewds the lolis. Irie's love is platonic, but Rena actually wants to touch their privates and shit.

>>18403569
Around Rena never relax

Merry Valentine's Day!

>>18403569
I bet she plays with her massive 80s bush a lot. That thing must look really adorable.

>>18403608
Chiester 45 > 556 > 410

What did she mean by this

>>18403678
what indeed?
>uuuu

>>18403692
>>uuuu
Are you Maria

>>18403698
yeah I have autism uuu. Would be nice to see a Rena-Maria merging tho.

Mion = Shion right?

>>18403919
at times mion is pretending to be shion, and shion is pretending to be mion. shion is a murderer, and took revenge against satoko and crew because she went crazy after losing her beloved satoshi.

why are you asking for spoilers you retard, just read the story

>>18404020
I liked her ;_;

>>18404020
Mion is the actual murderer, just read the VN.

Shion was Mion and Mion was Shion instead, all along.

>>18404242
i know this, and just said shion to keep it simple. because it is the original shion you are first introduced to

>>18400034
Thou shalt read at least umineko before posting here.

>>18403613
Are the 80s bushes canon or is it just a logical assumption by the fandom?

Is Higanbana stuffed with edgyness?

I'm in the first chapter of Umineko, can someone clear something up for me? Eva said she put the receipt in Kinzo's door, and that the 'seal' wasn't broken until both her and Natushi went to check again. Surely the seal would've been broken when Natsuhi first checked in on Kinzo, meaning he could've used the door to escape? I don't see how this incriminates Natsuhi exactly, unless I've got the chronology wrong. Was the receipt put there when Natsuhi left the first time?

>>18404849
>Was the receipt put there when Natsuhi left the first time?
Yes. Eva put in the receipt as Natsuhi was leaving.

>>18404849
the receipt was placed in the door after natsuhi checked on kinzo, and remained there until they checked on kinzo again. however, he wasn't in the room and the receipt seal indicates that he couldn't have left through the door.

this is because kinzo is actually dead at the beginning of every game, and natsuhi, krauss, and most of the servants are perpetuating this lie.

learn your lesson and get out of the thread until you finish all 8 episodes or else everything will be spoiled. if you can't wrap your head around how the receipt seal worked, i don't think umineko is for you anyways

>>18404919
Kill yourself anon, holy shit.

>>18404919
>you didn't understand one detail therefore you cannot understand the entire story
I kind of guessed something was up with Kinzo the whole time, thanks for proving my suspicions were correct

>>18404956
maybe i saved that anon from discovering the perpetrator and overarching answer while browsing this thread.

How the fuck is there no Sakutaro doll I can buy?

>>18404919
>if you can't wrap your head around how the receipt seal worked, i don't think umineko is for you anyways
This does not matter, even ryukishi forgot these games

>>18405044
it's just an indicator that someone cannot wrap their head around an incredibly simple concept

>>18404919
Well done.

>>18404919
Erika-tier post

>>18405359
Goats don't learn properly unless you use tough love

>>18404919

Takano is cool and did nothing wrong.

Choose your Valentine.

>>18406142
I want to give Erika my red truth.

>>18406142
Lucifer.

>>18406142
Lucifer is the right choice
Kagus are the best type of women

Shannon looks so cute!.

>>18404919
7. Thou shalt not be a intellectual rapist.

>>18406151
Would she kill herself if you say it in red?

I want to be Erika personal toilet.

>>18406369
Disgusting, keep your shit to yourself man

>>18405003
Only Rosa can give you a Sakutaro.

>>18406379
i can't, i have to keep Erika shit too.

>>18406392
Isn't it confirmed that she just bought the doll somewhere and gave to Maria lying that it's handmade?

>>18403535
Wow, Satoko is such a disgusting creature. Why did K1 even try to save her from her rapist uncle?

>>18406554
Yes.

>>18403535
D-don't lewd Satoko! she is cute and pure.