/jp/ - Otaku Culture

バカじゃないの。

Holy shit, you see that little pink-red thing in the background? That seems to be the entirety of Winter Rose's dome. It's not a perspective thing either, because a segment on the background nearly dwarfs the whole place as well.

FKG's background artist (whom I suspect does the flowers on the background of portraits too, which adds a lot to the game's charm) was always cool, but he's outdone himself this time around. This wouldn't look out of place on a metal album cover.

>>18397952
Daisy is way cuter than Cycla.

>>18398134
Ancient evil awakens.

Reminder that Nutaku FKG's free 6* ticket expires on Thursday if you haven't used it yet.

>>18398282
>Nutaku FKG gave out a free 6*
>DMM gave out a free 5*

Was I lied to and Nutaku FKG is actually more generous?

>>18397952
Grind the salt in why don't you.

>>18398134
The current winter rosenation defence map has the things legs sticking out of the ice in the background. And yep, they're pretty big.

>>18398302
Probably not. We did the sums a thread or two ago..

>>18398302
Nip's games on Nutaku are dying

>>18398302
They used to be about equal, with DMM giving out three times as many flower stones and Nutaku holding some special campaigns with higher rates to compensate. But Nutaku's campaigns grew more sparse with time, while DMM became even more generous.

DMM also has its own "one 6* of your choice per year" system in D-tickets and rainbow medals, though they're very slow to accumulate.

>>18398333
I told you all that winning the Banana Ocean contest would corrupt our innocent Cyclamen and turn her into a vote slut, but you didn't listen. Watch her become even lewder in her next H-scene.

Well, at least we know that the runners-up are also strong candidates for new versions. We had these for many non-winning but high-ranking girls from the previous contest, including Saffron, Dusty Miller, Helenium, Ghost Weed, Waterlily, Ardisia, Fritillaria and Pitahaya, so a new Purple Pansy or Strawberry isn't a distant dream either.

What kind of theme would you want them under, anyway? Just upgraded versions like Mint, Pink Waterlily and Burnet, or with specific clothes like the yukata, swimsuit and Christmas versions?

>>18398349
>nation defence
Derp. It's actually the new story mission. I probably just haven't gotten to >>18398134 yet.

>>18398528
>triple boss nodes
I don't think I've seen that before.

>>18398505
Upgrades. If I like the girl I'd rather see more of her usual style instead of just donning memes.

>>18398575
>>18398134
And in 47-5 you're actually fighting on top of the damn thing. Love the buildup.

>>18398505
June Bride Strawberry.

>>18398635
It's supposed to transition directly into next week's event too, which is probably why this update came with a campaign to clear story maps.

Also, leave it to 2ch to reveal the true culprit.

>Already been a year on nutaku kamipro
Love you guys

>>18398709
I give them until the 15th to get my free 100 inventory slots, otherwise I just drop that shit and focus 100% on DMM.
Too bad retarded whales immediately started buying slots the minute the cap got raised.

>>18398635
I came across this on Twitter a little while back during an event, but I guess I should post it while it's relevant.

When will they hold those campaigns to level up flower girls on DMM?

I want to get started on leveling all these level 1's on my starter account

>>18398635
>>18398810
Actually, here. It doesn't add much, but I'll just add that screenshot to the Twitter one. I don't know if there are any other portions of the image from any other maps that can be added.

>>18398810
>>18398848
Yeah, the first tease of that boss was way back in 2016. They had been planning this for well over a year, and setting other plot threads into motion at the same time. Wasn't it strongly suggested that there's an equally giant earthworm sealed under Lily Wood?

I wonder what the other nations have as their megapests. I said this before, but I'd love to see a paired pest battle against a giant backswimmer and water strider for Lotus Lake - backswimmers swim upside-down just under the water, while water striders skim just over it, mirroring the nation's own surface and water kingdoms.

>>18398815
XP up campaigns are pretty common. There was one the week before last, so I would guess next week or the one after.

>>18398848
Beat me to it. My screenshot was from the last story map so the rest of the image is probably in 47-1 to 4

furaua naito?

What happens if a flower knight gets deflowered?

>>18398852
Whatever this thing is supposed to be. These 2 the 2 megapests they have shown us so far.

>>18398913
Maybe she turns into a fruit knight.

>>18398913
Cross-pollenation.

>>18398505
>I told you all that winning the Banana Ocean contest would corrupt our innocent Cyclamen
That ship already set sail long ago, anon.

>>18399010
I like the way you think.

>>18398929
Isn't that the harbinger guy who drove pests insane and attacked Spring Garden to begin with? If so, he may be the final final boss.

Also interesting are the dead hand-shaped earthworm swarms in that map, which may foretell how the Lily Wood boss may end up like: instead of one gigantic earthworm, you get thousands of them that combine into different shapes.

>>18398913
>>18398956
Nothing, there are widowed knights and the like. Being a flower knight apparently only requires the blessing of a worldflower (the large trees in the center of each nation).

There are also fruit-based knights (Apple, Peach, Strawberry, Mikan and her childhood friends, possibly Orange Corps) and flower knights that represent non-flowering plants (Ginkgo, Hinoki, Pine and Fir). As far as I can tell, the only requirement is having a meaning in the language of flowers, and the LNs made exceptions even to that.

>>18399047
This wasnt the kind of deflowering I had in mind

Just wanted to mention that I love my Russelia.

>>18399053
Oh yeah, my bad. I was thinking about something like Clissa's unicorn knight business, where her being a virgin has actual story importance.

Well, you can deflower flower knights all you like. They don't have that kind of limitation, just ask the tulip sisters.

>>18399245
Note: For your own safety, do not actually ask the Tulip sisters.

How many beans do you have boys

>>18399308
Around 50

How come beans are supposed to keep evil spirits away but in this case we're collecting beans to make a demon girl stronger?

>>18399308
Just 500. I wonder if I should have even bothered.

>>18399308
Closing in on 500, I really need more max stam by the time another item collecting event comes around.

>>18399317
They give Oni strength, so she's been taking Prince and co around the neighborhood bullying Oni for their beans.

>>18398302
Nutaku FKG is really weird in that aspect. You could get some relatively sweet deals on their daily sales, there was even a special gem gacha, free rainbow ticket, and whatever. And at other times you get complete scams like the current fat bucks gacha in typical Nutaku fashion.
It's like there's separate people making decisions about these or something.

>>18399308
89, I hate this kind of events.

>>18398302
Didn't they also give one in 2016?

>>18399308
78.
I'm not wasting Stamina on these shitty collection events when the reward is UGLY and not good.

>>18399308
139
I don't care much for the class and I already have Itsuki anyway.

>>18399429
>when the reward is UGLY and not good.
>not good
????

>>18399429
But she's cute and horny for you

>>18399245
>Clissa being a virgin has actual story importance for her unicorn knight job
>Prince just pops her cherry anyway

Whats the story behind that?

>>18399429
She's the only oni you're gonna get since Kibahime and that other plat one are gacha only.

>>18399317
We were collecting beans to seal onis.
Onis were fighting each other and she wanted Prince to interrupt and make them stop.

Huh, so they posted the details for the Nidhoggr battle a while ago. As far as I can discern, the first half is about fighting Nidhoggr's spawn en masse, with individual rewards for participation and global rewards depending on how many of these were taken out by all knightmasters, while the second half is a personal showdown against the big 'pede itself. This system will be distinct from the regular two-week event, but the latter's story will be related to the great fight.

Whale boat will not be active during the length of this event, so you may want to stock up on whale medals this week.

>>18399308
I've half-skipped two collection events during Aigis lifetime, and regretted both, as I had to pay 10x to mincost these units.

>>18399308
Like 250 or so my dude, I have Itsuki and dead-set on picking for Kibahime with 150 crystals on her next spotlight. I really doubt I'd ever field a third oni

>>18399624
good goy

>>18399245
>>18399307
WHITE TULIP IS PURE
AVOID RED AND YELLOW

(Purple is probably fine?)

>>18399307
>>18399658
Who are the tulip sisters? Are they cute?

>>18399308
About 87.
I already have the other two onis so I don't really see when I'd use her.

Also only started in December so farming the current and previous revival blacks has been where my stam is going.

>>18399668
>Got Nagi, Hakunokami and Eterna
>They've been sitting in my barracks staring at me and asking me why I'm neglecting them

I CC'd Nagi but she was an absolute disappointment while for the other two I just cant find a place for them on my team or the resources to bring them up.

I also really hope we get our first original event black event instead of dumb revivals or bad plat event units, its been ages since I started and I'm still waiting for it. Hope she ends up being a super cute girl because I'm going to cry if she ends up looking like Anatolia.

>>18399665
White, Yellow, and Purple are silvers. Red is gold (and also one of the least popular, though she does have a strangely high skill rate, if you care about stats).

Someone else can post a pic or something, I’m on my phone.

>>18399665
Red Tulip, Yellow Tulip, Purple Tulip and White Tulip, four sisters in FKG who operate a clinic in Lily Wood. Three of them are maximum slut moe, coming in nurse (Red Tulip), psychiatrist (Purple Tulip) and pharmacist/mad scientist (Yellow Tulip) flavors. White Tulip, the youngest sister, is the innocent victim of their antics.

They are the kind of characters who slowly grow on you, I went from being wholly indifferent towards them to picking Red Tulip as this year's free 5*.

What I just found out I have a 5* and 6* ticket on Nutaku FKG
Did we get them for free lately or something?
I don't even know what I should do with the 6* ticket.
Thinking between Kerria, Habranthus and Bush Clover, even though I'm not a loli kind of guy I like the latters design and she looks super lewd

>>18399308
1129, just enough to get that sweet Bonded Florika. I'd usually ignore any non-black IC, but I happen to be feeling the urge to perfect more of my blacks right now. New Exchange Quests can't come quickly enough.

Looking at plats and plats only, which of the girls here deserve love, attention and awakening to new powers?

I already have a couple on my sights to work on next but I value getting a second opinion to see what other people think in case I might have overlooked something so I'd appreciate it if someone gave me their thoughts on this.

Is Dark Knight-kun worth the 1000 rainbow crystals? I don't have Cornelia and I don't want to take my chances with two plat tickets only to end up with useless units or dupes.

>>18399912
Clarice
Palfy
Rino
Ramii

>>18399791
Red Tulip was one of my first-ever 5*s and I've only liked her less over time. I'd have given you mine if I could, anon.

>>18399912

Awaken that summoner DORK

>>18399496

I got Kibahime before this event, so I just got the SC and called it quits. I did some much needed xp and affection/spirit farming instead.

Any point to using Sill if I have Eterna?

>>18400235
What's Eterna and Haku's role in a team anyway? Doesnt /jp/ keep saying how mages are kind of subpar and outdated compared to new classes?

>>18400270
Breeding.

>>18400270

They're for sitting on my cock

>>18400235

Forget about Sill, she's too plain.

>>18399791
Yellow Tulip is just badly influenced by Red Tulip but she's really a good girl. In her scene she talks as if she's seeing cock for the first time.

I didn't care much for Purple Tulip until I did her story quest. Now I find her adorable and she has a special place in my heart.

>>18400376

Boo this man

What are these flowers for? Should I bother grinding for them?

>>18400702
They're equipment/skill flowers specifically for raising Echeveria's (the event girl's) equipment slots and skill level. All event girls have a complementary set of flowers, but they're useless without the girl herself.

If you do want a event unit, you'll almost always want to grind up the flowers too, since the free equipment slots/skill upgrades is the main thing event golds have over gacha golds. But in this case it's probably best not to bother with her, the event is going to expire in 14 hours.

Anyone's got a decent union i could join on NA kamihime? Mine kinda just imploded over the dumbest shit while i wasn't looking.

>>18400736
Would it be worth to burn stamina pots to get her if I can do the 80 stamina mission stage?
I find her really cute and forgot that I should have been doing this.

>>18400776
>just imploded over the dumbest shit while i wasn't looking.
what dumbshit

>>18400790
Yams

>>18400790

Some unimportant drama, really.

>>18400777
Sure. The pots are plentiful enough that you'll eventually be hard pressed to even use them all.

>>18400777
You'll need a lot of stamina pots, anon.

Every time you run the 80 stamina stage you'll get 132 (or so) of the event currency, for a total of 1.65 currency per stamina. This is assuming you totally ignore all secret gardens along the way. Buying Echeveria would take you about 909 stamina. Buying enough flowers to max her out would take another 612 stamina, for a total of around 1521 stamina. If you have enough stamina potions to throw at her, don't let me stop you! But if you have around 250 energy then it'd probably take you around 17 of them to get her and her tokens.

>>18400813
Really? I always find myself lawnmowering through them whenever I play. Must be a playstyle thing.

>>18400825
>This is assuming you totally ignore all secret gardens along the way.
Where do I find these secret gardens or how do I do them?

>>18400825
I think it might just be my personal level disparity coupled with the frequency of log-in bonuses and campaigns resulting in level-up refreshes contributing enough to get through a ton of instances with only ~10 pots per.
It's also worth noting that I rarely grind the Manyu and Gold dailies.

>>18400837
They have a random chance of appearing whenever you finish campaign and event missions (plus a few others). They reward large amounts of life crystals and money along with guaranteed manyus (the highest-tier ones will award a guaranteed 100-year manyu and an assortment of other 20-years and 100-years), but cost large amounts of stamina to access (12/50/80 depending on the tier) and have slightly below-average experience yields. They're almost always worth going into for the rewards.

In your case, anon, if you really want her I'd honestly consider spending some FGs on refilling your stamina. Last-minute rushes like this are one of the few times it's worth it. She'll eventually come back around as a permanent revival unit if you decide it's not worth it, but that won't be for another year or so.

>>18400859
That'd explain it. Stamina pots are a lot more useful at higher levels, when you're looking at 30k or even 100k experience for one of the free level-up refills. I'm "only" level 136 and unless there's an experience event going on, I usually only level up once per week playing actively.

Never really paid any attention to Shiropro outside of Aigis collabs. Are the characters I have any good?

>>18400950
Dude, you have like 6 6-star castle girls, which is the equivalent of an aigis black... I have the Ishiyama (music note) and Edinburgh (cannon), and I'll have to say they're both my staples in a lot of teams. Edinburgh grants a 20% attack and defense boost to all allies in range, for instance.

>>18400875
>>18400825
I did it /jp/, it was easier than expected. Only ended up having to burn a total of 7 pots and 2 flower crystals so thanks for the advice. Could have done without the crystals since I thought it'd be harder but it cant be helped.

Game seems surprisingly forgiving to lazy people such as myself.

Today was a good day in FKG.

Waremokou pull from bloom gacha.

Gold non-dupe pull from event gacha. It was Christmas Ghost Weed instead of Valentine Snapdragon, but hey, at least it wasn't a third Christmas Aloe.

>>18399308
1159. I max out the event units regardless of whether or not I like them. And considering my luck with just about everything in this game, I'll need all the bond spirits I can get.

What do you do with dupes in FKG?

>>18401267
Get more equipment slots.
Unless it's a rainbow, in which case you evaluate which method of suicide will be the most quick and painless

>>18401155
>2 flower crystals
Psh, you'll get them back tomorrow. Enjoy your Echeveria, anon.

>>18401267
I can't stand keeping dupes around so I always fuse them no matter what.

>>18401274
I got a dupe of one of the two 5*'s I've pulled in this gacha (Yukata Helio) so it was kind of sad. At least she's cute and I can use the dupe to make her stronger but I wanted one of the pink haired cuties in that gacha.

>>18399308
Just shy of 500. I'll finish up tomorrow with a 9 stam run before maintenance. I don't care for these types of events so I find whatever the most comfortable cutoff point is for cost reduction on natural stamina/charisma regen and stop there every time.

>>18399837
>>18401235
Do you guys just run the 12 stam map nonstop?

Happy valentines day from イリス

>>18401524
B.Irisかわいい

>>18401535
Elyseかわいい

>>18400400
Yeah, I guess calling these two sluts is an exaggeration. But both have pretty erotic personalities, between Yellow Tulip's aphrodisiacs and Purple Tulip's whispery voice, and all three are complicit in teasing White Tulip (hence her famous "my sisters are fools!" battle line).

Red Tulip is still the most dangerous, though all four are good girls at heart.

>>18400950
Most 6 star or above girls are usually good by default. For the five stars, that plains bow is really popular for having decent damage and easy to use because she has no stratagem. You have to renovate her to 6 stars though. The plain-mountain spear (who I just call drill miku) is in the discussion for best non 7* spear after you renovate her because of her strong passive. The mountain gun has a stratagem in the form of a token that give you 1 ki for every enemy killed within a certain range around it. The five star cannon has a similar strategy with the difference being that when girl within the range of the token kill an enemy, you get 2 ki. Sometimes I use those 2 and a ki generator just to rack just ki. Anyway those 2 can be renovated but maybe not necessary if you're going to just use them for ki (the cannon is really stronk though so I recommend renovating her). I was using the 5* shield before I got a stronger one and she was pretty decent. There's a couple of 5* girls there I don't know but the rest I usually use as renovation fodder.

Looks like there's no collab gatcha, instead we get this platinum qt.

>>18402307
My pity black isn't going anywhere then.

>>18402307
>plat blacksmith
Nice, I still think blacksmiths are redundant with maids but at least they're filling out the new classes. She also looks like Palfy's elder sister, which would be fitting because she's the armor-buffing blacksmith.

Sandy had Vulcan's hammer, this one has Goibniu's. Blacksmith gods in Aigis probably need to insure their tools against theft.

>>18401267
Event girl dupes get sold off. Gacha golds are fused to increase skill and gear slots. Rainbows are fused, or raised based on personal preference. Raising dupe rainbows increases the overall power of your team but costs extra resources that the player might prefer to use on other golds. It's not recommended for whales who will end up with full teams of rainbows anyway (although many of them do it just for funsies), but is a valid strategy for free players.

What the hell, it seems like I'm missing the event unit Verdinath. I've been playing for almost two years now and I've gotten every event unit.

>>18402638
Been playing for two years and missed both of her revivals? Maybe she hates you.

>>18402650
I'm sure I did her event. I must've vendored her somehow god damnit.

>>18402307
>アビリティ「アーマースミス」により 以下のクラスを強化の対象とします。 ヘビーアーマー系、メイジアーマー系、 ロイヤルガード系、グランドナイト系、 神官戦士系、重装砲兵系、王子
Wow the sheer uselessness. Could she have buffed a worse set of classes? I mean I guess she could have, but still...

Post which ones you got

>>18402957
Heh, new account got Sylseth, Soma, and Alyssa.

Which 2AW did Japanese players take for Hakunokami?

>>18403028
Japanese players either suck (see Altema) or they are whales (so they don't use freebies).

>>18403061
What did most people here take?

>>18402791
Rest easy, anon, because Dev Tea heard your prayers! The next unit will have a new class called ippon-datara, and she will be exactly the same as blacksmiths, but in a kimono and with youkai buffs instead. Now you can completely abandon boring and obsolete concepts like "blocking things" and move to the new goodness that is Eastern units.

Aren't you excited for this very fresh and unique class?!

>>18402791
Poor Cornelia, they forgot paladins.

>>18400805
>drama in Kamihime unions
lolwut
In Embryon people barely even acknowledge each others' existence, everybody just grinds in silence.
Then again, I don't exactly frequent the Discord, so it might be just me who does that.

>>18403512
The discord discusses almost every single mobage EXCEPT Kamihime outside union events and tapping failed union raids

>>18402957
There is a clear and consistent three among my favorites.

>>18403594
>The discord discusses almost every single <related_subject> EXCEPT <intended_subject>
So a standard discord channel then.

>>18402957
T-Thanks.

>>18402957
My wives.

>>18403606
>clear and consistent pattern

I should really stop posting while half-awake.

Is it just me or she is RC shit?

>>18399948

>>18402957

>>18402957
Sarah's my adjutant.
Man, Rino doesn't deserve that spot, I never field her

>>18400270
Eterna is actually good because Black stats + attack speed passive + her SAW lets her be a Healer + a Mage at the same time in a single slot.

Haku is really mainly used because her skill gives her really high single-target magic DPS.

>>18399948
>>18403967
Dark Knight is good, he even shows up in high level Majins sometimes thanks to his really high ranged physical DPS during SAW, but a big investment, because not only is he 1000 RC, but he's not much use until you SAW him.

>>18402957
Lapis
Flamel
Moltena

What decides these anyway?

>>18404153
Highest EXP count

>>18404179
Then Flamel shouldn't be there. As you can see I have several units with more experience than her.

>>18403921
She looks absolutely cunnilicious.

>>18404179
>>18404234
Nevermind I get it now. I used Joy to level Flamel so she has the most experience of all my units I guess.

Why is Helena the only vanguard that's a type C buffer when all the others are type B? I was excited to try rolling for Rino but it turns out she's a type C and they won't stack.

Meh.

Retarded anon who rerolled into Sylvia here, just got Nataku from fame gacha - anyone mind sharing their opinion on her?
Back when she came out on cucktaku, there were people who said she was great, and others who said she was terrible if memory serves me right.

Has the new pick-up banner been announced yet, by the way? I'm 7 pulls away from a pity black.

>>18404553
New banner blacks will be Nanaly, Kayou, Frederica, and Aix.

>>18404553
Nataku is still one of the best melee blacks you can get in Aigis.
https://altema.jp/sennenaigis/blackticket
https://altema.jp/sennenaigis/blackticket2

>>18404553
Good melee range support, that it

>>18404553
Nataku ain't that bad.
https://altema.jp/sennenaigis/blackticket
https://altema.jp/sennenaigis/blackticket2

O thank fuck next reissue is just Irene

Druids are Great Actually

>>18404578
Awesome, thanks. Definitely sounds like I should pop my pity there, rather than hoping for Moltena.
Only one I'm not familiar with is Frederica, is she the dud black on the banner?

>>18404589
>>18404599
Oh, yep. Looking at her own page, it seems that they rate her decently highly. Good to know, thanks.

>>18404682
Depends, I've seen people liking her range. But yeah, personally she's the one I don't really want to get. Aiming for Aix.

>>18404553
Strange is the best way to describe her, she feels like a prototype of newer units - think of her as a combination of Konoha and Fuuko. Her biggest issue is that, despite her ridiculous defense, she only lands during her 15-second skill, making her difficult to use as a tank. As for offense, her attack is pretty good for a unit of her cost, especially if she gets a lucky streak with her AW ability (50% chance to attack again with no delay, can trigger multiple times in a row). Her flight also lets her avoid melee bosses that you'd rather not mess with, but she doesn't have the complete independence that tengu get through their untargetability.

She won't carry the game for you like Sylvia, but she's a flexible unit that can fill different roles depending on what the rest of your team looks like: If you're lacking in duelists, she can usually be dropped on top of something scary and take it out, if you want more true damage you can deploy her behind your mainline tank and pop her SAW at a crucial moment (say, to shred a golem), she's nearly as good a lightning rod as angels, and if you're good to go on all counts (as you seem to be), then she still contributes as a melee-spot ranged unit that can dish out some serious damage in a pinch.

>>18404682
Frederica hits hard and has a big splash, but her attack speed is slow enough that you won't rely on her to burst anything. This attack pattern also prevents her from gaining much from dancers and allows her to waste shots on enemies that were mostly dead anyway, so she isn't exactly beloved in endgame stages. But she still does true damage from a good range (or heavy physical damage with pretty much map-wide range, if you prefer the regular skill), and she's very useful in Phenex, where slow but strong attacks become an asset rather than a liability.

>>18404761
Interesting, thanks for the writeup. That definitely gives me a lot more to work with as for her usage.
I was just thinking of keeping her in the sky as much as possible to shred enemies, so her SAW seems like a large improvement over her normal skill, despite her defence.

I'm not completely good to go yet, still missing a few vital things. So far I have Sylvia (reroll), Mireille (pity), Rinne (ticket), and now Nataku from fame. Definitely going to pop my pity on the upcoming pickup, I seriously need ranged damage. Aix would be huge too.
Last ticket is still most likely reserved for Sarah, but I'm not cashing it in until I can use her.

I appreciate the information on Frederica too, it makes pulling her not as unappealing as I'd thought. She definitely seems like overkill and slower damage than I'd like, but she's still ranged and could potentially work for some maps, and in some teams it sounds.

>>18404761
>you can deploy her behind your mainline tank and pop her SAW at a crucial moment (say, to shred a golem)
Won't she just clobber the golem from outside block range and initiate the long range hostilities

>>18402957
Not really sure how Eterna made it up there. Will probably have to feed Elyse a bit more.

>>18403921
She's a toolbox unit that does a bunch of unrelated things, some of which are unique to her. The main attraction of her kit is 10% attack to druids/rangers/valkyries/bowriders, which means that your Rion/Margeret gets a considerable DPS boost from her. She also has magical damage that switches to physical with skill, which is situationally useful for things like demons, and between her self-buff and 2AW, she packs a decent punch for a low-cost utility unit. Her trees are likewise gimmicky but useful if you take the effort to plan around them; healer-tier stats coupled to permanent invisibility and map-wide 900 HP healbombs is nothing to scoff at. Druid trees are often seen in budget clears of tough maps, and for good reason.

As an aside, she's also drawn by Hattori Masaki, Mint's artist on FKG, and as >>18404237 says, her design is good enough reason to raise her.

>>18404839
Yeah, but it only takes 5 seconds to initiate her SAW anyway, so you can deploy her after the golem is blocked. Alternatively, you can expend a necromancer/elementalist token to start the tanking process when the golem enters Nataku's strike zone.

In retrospect, though, placing Nataku behind your tank is kind of a waste. She's best suited for a pseudo-ninja role in front of your main blocker.

>finally Agnes spotlight
>she's as useless as they come
>torn between rolling and not

>>18404901
Yeh she looks about as young as Aisha and Eden who are prepubescent-looking. Something way too rare in Aigis desu.

>>18405045
>>18404901
She also has some bestiality fanart on twitter, one of the few units that has.

>>18405056
What a time to be alive. A shame the English version is gone, so we'll never get to see the uncensored version.

For the anons that were skipping affection G because they thought it was too hard, here's how you do it. Been doing it like this since the week I started so I can safely say its the easiest daily by far if you have this guy.

The recipe for this is Mage prince x1, any AOE damage dealer x1 (Sill will work), any healer and you might also want a thief. You'll also see Aisha, ramii and an additional healer because I like to put them on the sides in case my mage in the center cant kill them all just to be safe.

Place Mage prince on the center, activate his skill and watch all the pegasus riders die. Put a healer near him so he doesnt die then put your mage or aoe damage dealer directly behind prince and enjoy your free gifts.

>>18405107
I started playing after the mage prince event, what now?

>>18405113
His rerun is coming very soon

>>18405107
I love this map because it's the only map I can see my dick-picked Estelle blow up consecutive groups of mooks.

>>18405113
I run the difficulty below that almost exclusively with silvers. Which isn't impressive at all but wasn't confident in dealing with a pegasus army even with Magic Prince.

senPro has a 10 roll up for 2 DMM points right now by the way

>>18405056
Do you have any links for these said twitters. Asking for a friend

>>18402957
Man, I really like Lieselotte...I wish she became a Commander.

...I also wish I could understand what goes in during her scenes...

>>18405056
>>18405257
I need this, not for a friend but for myself.

>>18405107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiE_yepjrYc

>>18405113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tEWXFqzV9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBHE-2xmBp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHUuTfmlUyY

Mage prince is probably the unit that hurts the most if you dont have him since he trivializes so much content but at least they're rerunning him soon.

>>18405257
>>18405302
It was a while ago and I didnt save or favorite the picture so its most likely buried in the 千年戦争アイギス tag. And searching for art in twitter is just horrible.

>>18405257
>>18405302
>>18405329
Would this be it? It's apparently from an Aigis convention that was held last Sunday.

>>18405464
Probably. I think there was a colored picture too but thats most likely it.

For the fame gacha should I roll at 20k or 35k?

>>18404901
>>18404761
I've tried asking before but what do Eterna and Hakunokami do on a team?
Their cost is pretty big and doing 2AW on a black unit takes a ton of resources and investment so I want to know if they're worth it at all or if they're just there to look cute.

>do affection daily
>1 drop
love to have only one day of this and have it be shared with the trust daily for what little dudes matter (literally just WE but still)

>>18405695
As far as I'm aware, they both excel at role compression. There are stages where ranged slots are too spread out or limited in number, so you can't place both healers and damage dealers to cover the entire map - Eterna combines the benefits of a mage and a healer in these situations, while Hakunokami primarily functions as a healer but can also do some impressive damage with her skill. But I would still recommend focusing on your shrine blacks first, since neither is a must-have unit on the scale of Emperor, Hibari or Fuuko.

For an extreme example of that kind of stage layout, see this subjugation. Eterna was really useful here, as you really couldn't afford multiple healers with only five ranged spots on the entire map and several high-end flying monsters as enemies.

Is there a reason you can't use bronze assholes as CC material for at least silvers

>>18402957
I should probably put more effort into raising those black units I have.

>>18402957
Aside from useless/unfinished event girls, I still don't have any of the girls I started the game for but these are fine.

Which Aigis(es) is(are) your Valentine(s) this year?

>>18406877
I'm pretty sure that question was asked here already >>18402957

>>18402957
>>18406877
Bottom 3

>>18403131
My brain says "red".

My dick says "blue".

>>18402957
>>18406877

>>18405464
>Animal fuck forest
Fuck I need to find this and buy it.

>>18402957
I'm drowning in Dina chocolates and it's fine.

>>18404656
>Lapis
>Elyse
>Aix
Yeah that druid totally "helping out" in a mission you are completely over-powercreeped for.

>>18404656
It was the 4* version where the big golem snipes halfway across the map not letting me field healers to support my Mireille though

Damn I forgot about maintenance.

>Pick up Chloe in Aigis because she looks really lewd and cute
>Has a doujin translated on the panda
>Videos and people sell her as really good
>Happily go impregnate her
>Turns out all her scenes are just anal so you never really get to fuck her or impregnate her

I'm so disappointed right now that I'm not going to bother raising her anymore. That privilege is reserved to girls that offer themselves to me.

>>18407816
She wants anal because vaginal is already far too boring for a slut like her and she wouldn't cum from it. I'm serious.

>want Nannaly or Kayou
>pity black + luck black within a few rolls
>Frederica and Aix
I fucking knew it.

>lapis rate up
Are these rate ups actually any good

>no collab gacha
>completion reward for the event is just another Sill copy instead of a King Hanny
I sleep

Elizabeth better be as good as you guys say she is, because otherwise I will continue to have no damage in my team for the foreseeable future.

>That cost on Rindow
Fuck.
>Goes up by 5 on awakening
God damnit. That completely nullifies her ability for herself. She just needs to be in the party for it to apply, not necessarily deployed right?

>>18408679
Is she actually good? I was about to use her to fund my legend ticket next month.

>>18408686
Deployed.

>>18408690
>>18408686
>While deployed, all allied oni, raikou and fuuhaku gain Cost -5.

What a useful girl

Do I pull on the RNG Lapis + Kurama rate up, or the surefire pickup? I have none of them.

What are the skills on the black ranger girl?

>want new blacksmith for my mage armor centric anti-mr meme team
>get freaking Shade again
>sell her for rc to buy ticket
>get tifa
At least the situation was salvaged. I just want a cute armor team goddess why won't you let me have one? Won't give me Teeny, now won't even give me a nice consolation plat.

>>18408718
>Gets a great black
>Complains

>>18408679
>>18408688
Elizabeth is amazing. I had her on Nutaku and she could shred things really fast during skill use.

>>18408611
If you're the Sylvia fellow, then you did good by going with Rinne as your first healer. Aix is Elyse's equal in many respects, her slightly lower multiplier (2x, her permanent skill may seem appealing but you'll prefer SAW for the range + recovery focus) might not enable extremely stupid tactics like tanking Shuten but she will pull her weight for the likes of Vepar and golems. She also enjoys more freedom with respect to placement, because melee spots are usually better-distributed (and enjoy less competition) compared to ranged, and her "+10 range to healers" passive likewise gives you off-the-wall placement options in many maps. She synergizes well with other high-range healers for that reason.

Also, at least you'll soon have more blacks than me. I said that I had 13 unique blacks, but seems that I included a dupe in that number, the real count is 12 in two years of play: Asherah, Frederica, Clissa, Sarah, Sylvia, Sylseth, Kurama, Kayou, Angeline, Mireille and the ticket picks of Elyse and Farne. But thanks to Broom, I do have 13 free rainbows on FKG now, and I'd easily trade half my blacks for a couple more.

>>18408679
>>18408688
Her main problem is her low range, and the lack of damage bonus against fliers means that you'll want an archer for plinking at anything from gargoyles to Phenex. But she melts anything in that range in no time at all, her multi-shot means that she's great with dancers, and she outperforms many blacks in Bifrons due to her anti-undead bonus (I used her to solo the dracolich, stalled Bifrons until her skill recharged, and pretty much soloed him as well). She's also good in that her regular skill is solid enough, she benefits considerably from AW/SAW but she won't be dead weight until you get there either.

>>18408701
Range up. Attacked enemies speed drops
With SAW I believe it does the above and gives her unblockable arrows that shoot really fast.

>>18408743
>If you're the Sylvia fellow
I wish I was, I ticketed Rinne and Elyse. Though you helped me too when I started at the Kamihime collab months ago. I'm probably in a similar situation to >>18408679 , Elizabeth (just rolled her too) is going to be my only serious physical ranged DPS. I guess I could AW+SAW Margaret.
Should I swap someone for Aix? I think I have too much healing already. I'm also not sure if it makes sense to field both Frederica and Dolce.
(Also not pictured an AW Leimei and Cenote).
Thanks for your analysis anon, they're always appreciated.

How do you guys cap on those again? I have like 150 extra spirits

>>18408819
Well, Aix is a sidegrade if you have Elyse - you'll prefer her in some subjugations and majin (Barbatos has a nice trio of melee spots for her on the bottom lane, for example), but she's not a big priority when you've already invested in two endgame healers. Your main team seems solid, I'd say that you have the freedom to raise whomever you find cute now. Margeret, an archer (if you have one of the better ones) and/or a dancer sound good too.

As for Dolce + Frederica, I don't think it'll be a problem: Ranged units don't step on each other's toes too much, and Frederica has the bonus of cleaning up swarms, which allows Dolce to do her job better. Shelt + Alicia seems like the bigger redundancy to me, although bringing both is perfectly fine for regular content (and Nadia appreciates any kind of stat buff). I also like having at least one of my tanks to be self-retreating for blind runs, to check for the gimmicks of newer bosses, but you have plenty of tokens to do that job.

Second time I get baited to going to a guaranteed black on Lapis rateup and second time I end up getting the one who isn't Lapis.
Just end me.

Not bad, got more than 1 plat. Shame that Seria is a dupe, though.

>no free inventory expansions
And there it is, the reason I needed to drop nutaku KHP

>>18408911
Congrats, you got the worst black in the game.

>>18408701
http://assets.millennium-war.net/40a9df7b7fdf6fba88c74883d72f7fc824d6997e/7c86146431d6fc44e571e2a204d3c972
http://assets.millennium-war.net/40a9df7b7fdf6fba88c74883d72f7fc824d6997e/fd323e7b5a335fd3d52ce35794d6691c
Stats (HP, ATK, DEF):
Lv01 1268 328 162
Lv90 1579 454 229

Max cost: 17; Min cost: 12
Affection bonus(es): HP +300; ATK +120

Skill: エルヴンアロー;
30s, Range 1.5x, on-hit slow (70%, 40 frames)
35s CD

SAW:闇エルフの速弓術;
20s, range and atk 1.5x, arrows unnegateable, arrow speed up
30s CD

Base ability - Immune to Makai miasma
AW Ability - Immune to makai, 20% nullification chance

>>18409009
He didn't get Koharu though
Or Tenma
Or Anri
Or Ibuki
Or Elmira
Or Deine
Or Berna
Or Despia

>>18409021
Berna is Phenex-worthy actually.

Ryuryu
http://assets.millennium-war.net/40a9df7b7fdf6fba88c74883d72f7fc824d6997e/f94eca7b3d37941e2a379d439cd69143
http://assets.millennium-war.net/40a9df7b7fdf6fba88c74883d72f7fc824d6997e/8439bb372787fbb06d79c37049a68d90

AW2 Route: Sorcerer

Stats (HP, ATK, DEF):
Lv01 1133 334 75
Lv99 1637 476 110

Max cost: 15; Min cost: 12
Affection bonus(es): ATK +120; DEF +60

Skill: スイートマジック
25s, 1.5x ATK, reduces MR of enemies in range by 20%
CD 45

SAW: 純粋スイートマジック
20s, 1.5x ATK and Range, reduces MR of enemies in range by 40%
CD 55

Carat?
http://assets.millennium-war.net/40a9df7b7fdf6fba88c74883d72f7fc824d6997e/82f5af71998328dd76113e78d95a083a
http://assets.millennium-war.net/40a9df7b7fdf6fba88c74883d72f7fc824d6997e/8d65d7e6cda65a5ceec6f8bd5a8ea590

Stats (HP, ATK, DEF):
Lv01 2656 553 222
Lv90 4058 683 316

Max cost: 19; Min cost: 16
Affection bonus(es): HP +300; ATK +120


Skill:パーフェクトリペア
30s, self and target classes gain 1.2x ATK/DEF. On activation target classes are fully healed.
CD 50s

SAW: ゴヴニュの雷鎚
40s, self and target classes gain 1.2x ATK/1.4x DEF, (self) gain ranged (200) magic attack
CD 70

Ability: アーマースミス
Targets: HA, Mage Armor, Royal Guard, Grand Knight, Priest Warrior, Heavy Artillery, Prince



H-scenes in case someone asks
http://assets.millennium-war.net/40a9df7b7fdf6fba88c74883d72f7fc824d6997e/7c946bc743bb5b53f3db7ff3a06b24a0
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http://assets.millennium-war.net/40a9df7b7fdf6fba88c74883d72f7fc824d6997e/0ba3a2eb015b95167faa7257df24ff98
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>>18409012
Wait is she actually decent?

>>18409021
In all honesty she's in the same tier as all of those considering she's just worse than the Konoha by a longshot and her passive is straight up garbage on a tengu.

>>18409026
She also trivializes half of the rushing units that come on the Barbatos maps.

DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THE FACE OF MERCY?

>>18409049
She's definitely not on the same tier as Koharu
No one is.

>>18409060
Koharu is sleeper op.

>>18409059
Sylvia stomps

>>18409059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP6b-aX84FA
Not even Narsus could save this pitiful whale.

>>18409059

>>18409059
No match for Aigis' champion.

>>18409033
Is Ryuryu part of the collab? So 1 more girl stolen from Rance?

>>18409213
She's part of the Valentine campaign, nothing to do with Rance.

>>18409059
>MR 90
Hol' up...

>>18409145
>No match for Moltena dogs.
Fixed your post for you

>>18409623
The prince's subjects are a part of his strength, their accomplishments belong to him.
Not to mention the dogs die in less than 3 seconds and did no more work than he did.

>final collab missions reward is just an extra Sill copy
Uhh, ok?
I'll just... put her over there in the barracks... next to the others...yeah.

>>18409659
I wish I didn't have ADHD and didn't feed all dupes to one Sill
I could have made like 24 RC

>>18409659
I bet the event was designed to have more characters but only Sill was ready in time.

>>18409009
What is exactly wrong with her? I have Konoha and it's very useful to drop on boss very early and I can forget about her.

How is it fair for Cheetos to be better than every plat samurai

>>18409800
Her kit is strong but all over the place. Konoha is easy to understand: You deploy her anywhere on the map, preferably near a stationary boss, and she provides support damage and slow without being a burden on your healers. Her skill and ability complement her role by giving her a decent capacity for burst damage. There are a few things that you need to watch out for while using her (DoT like makai rat/Amon aura, splash damage if she's near other units), but otherwise she's perfectly intuitive and strongly focused on the deployment freedom that is the hallmark of her class.

Then you get to Kurama, who (a) belongs to a class that performs best when deployed away from your central group of units, but has a concealment ability that forces you to place her right in the middle of the main camp, (b) has excellent utility in on-demand paralysis, but doesn't attack during it so you again want her close to your other units, and (c) can't find the time for actual damage between these support options, so Konoha outperforms her in boss-ganking duties (her SAW is good for swarms, but she misses out on paralysis if you go for it). All of this makes her a schizophrenic unit who wants to be at one end of the map half of the time, and another end for the other half.

Make no mistake though, she's far from weak. She combines enough broken mechanics that she's excellent in high-end stages, serving as a dedicated counter to Furfur and Glasya in particular, it's just that everything about her will make you think "wasted potential, this mechanic would be much better on any other class".

>>18409800
Konoha is basically a plop her down in a remote place and forget about her outside if turning on skills. That's ultimately the strength of a Tengu and Konoha performs it excellently with both her skill and passive designed around dealing damage damage.
Kurama is basically just inferior at that role and her passive is designed around placing her with other units anyway. While her passive itself wouldn't be awful on another class it completely disregards that the biggest advantage of a Tengu is the freedom to place them anywhere.

If you compare the SAWs of both of them.
Konoha
>1.5x atk
>1.5x atk again from passive
>1.2x range
>Increased slow
>3 targets
>15 sec up/45 sec down

Kurama
>1.9x atk
>3 targets
>Slow removed
>Allies can't be targeted by ranged attacks in her tiny range because you obviously want to place a perma stealthed unit clumped with others
>20 sec up/50 sec down

Honestly there's literally no reason a black should have a practically copy pasted SAW of a plat with things removed from it.

You can get great utility out of her passive and her normal skill but neither of these really play to the classes strengths. If you don't have Konoha you can also pretty much use her in the same way, she just doesn't amount to an upgrade if you already have Konoha though unless you place her with your team and use her to para/stealth.

Worst black is a bit of an exaggeration but she's definitely not what people wanted out of a black Tengu.

>>18409777
Especially since it's pretty much tradition for Kanami to embarass herself whenever she tries to do anything.

>>18408743
Sylvia anon here, since you're quite the knowledgeable fellow, I'd like your opinion on something.
Should I risk the Lapis + Kurama banner for the chance at Lapis, or go the safe route and pull for Aix/Nanaly/Kayou?

>spend 50 SC
>get Lapis

Happy lucky

>>18410010
If you have none of the four pick-up blacks, and are somewhat interested in all of them, I'd definitely recommend the Aix and friends banner. Lapis is beyond broken, and your chances of getting a dupe black are very low, but Kurama is a rather wonky unit (as detailed above) and the rate-up multiplier isn't that high (6x or 7x, I think?)

And well, you're giving me too much credit. I'm not too experienced in Aigis compared to other anons here, we had folks who maintain the wiki and someone with nearly every black in the game.

>>18410010
Not that anon but the guy who rolled for Lapis and got Kurama.

The pickup would been amazing for my team since I don't have any of them and there's 3 top tier girls. I'd do it all again though and I'll keep on blowing all my SC (even if I can't reach guaranteed or it fucks up my stamp card) every Lapis banner no matter how many times the other rateup black cucks me.

But I'm also an idiot and my dick doesn't want anymore blacks outside of Lapis. I'm a huge fan of watching enemy health bars melt and it's a very pleasing and erotic experience to see them decrease like that. Granted I have Rivuru for now to sate my lust but having both of them going together would be quite something.

>>18409621
Well if they were true to lore they would have 100 MR

Ibuki wouldn't bother me as much as she does if she don't have that godawful AW passive that synergizes in no fucking way with her class or her kit.
The "buff" to procrate during skill use feels almost insulting

>>18410091
I think they do have 100 MR, it's just that they're subject to 10% pierce mechanics, so it's functionally equivalent to 90 MR.

>>18410129
The weirdest part of her set is the autoskill on ranged units. I mean, it makes sense on Leora, but Ibuki's version just seems tacked on.

They should give her "20% pursuit, 20% true damage, 20% 1.9x attack, one of the three always procs during skill use", and cut down on her CDs some. Then she'd be pretty good, I think.

>>18410160
Ibuki's ranged autoskill I'd believe is meant to combo with pirates to slow down mermen as she blasts them but it's really poorly thought out.
I'd figure instead making all ranged dps units slow would work better

>>18410129
I read that as "the buff to procreate during skill use".

>>18410211
Same

>>18410183
Good idea. Another possible path is limiting the affected units (gun classes like pirates, cannoneers, monster slayers, merchants and sailors is the natural choice), but also letting her bypass cooldowns for skill activation.

A skill like that would be unique, and there's a lot of fun to be had with it: Double UP gain with Totono or Diera, having Dolce activate her skill right off the bat, extended multi-target, multi-shot salvos with Sabrina and Reanbell, instant field wipe with Kanon.

>>18410211
>>18410217
I'd be down for a Yomeiro Choice kind of event where a loli chronowitch arrives from the future, claims to be Prince's daughter with Anna, and tries to make them conceive so that she can be born.

Prince later makes a lot of granddaughters with her too.

fuck rate up fuck that lieeee, got till end of black pity timer and got neither of the rate ups, I want Lapis, as kick to balls it was dupe black. fuck my luck

>>18410376
Add me to today's list of Lapis-missers. Got Moltena who was supposed to be in the other banner.

>>18410129
Her AW passive absolutely does synergize with her class and kit, you're just arguing from an un-SAW perspective. Ibuki's base skill is fine, but you'll have to accept that she isn't individually getting as much from her ability as she could.

This notion of Ibuki being 'shit' is amusing. She's cheap, has great range and a huge attack multiplier, double splash attacks which also inflict slow, independent procs which grant her tremendous damage output against even hardened targets, and can keep herself somewhat out of trouble during the times when you'd really want her to be. 30 seconds is a reasonable duration, comparable to other blacks with similarly powerful skills; her cooldown is on the long side, but there are Rearguards for that (2AW Aisha or Leona give her a 1:1 uptime to downtime ratio).

Which Sailor would you say does the class justice, if not her? Reanbell is the only one I hear anything about, and she's no less offensively specialized than Ibuki, nor is she any less fragile--she's also pretty pathetic outside of her skill, while Ibuki at least has the potential to do some decent damage if her procs trigger. The rest are situationally useful, at best, and won't put out anywhere near the same level of DPS.

>>18410376
as a bonus after selling the dupe black I got this months plat ticket, rolled black from that... except it was Diene sure I don't have her yet but I still got better tanks already, is there anything good about her anyway?

>>18410246
>Yomeiro Choice

God, I miss that manga. I never got around to finishing it.

Yellow daughter and pink mother best.

>>18410425
Tits

>>18410425
Wait for 2AW tank in late 2019.

>>18410414
You're right in that Ibuki is an above-average unit in a vacuum, and she's hands-down the best sailor, but she should be judged based on other blacks rather than other sailors. Black units that are considered great either do something better than any other unit (Nanaly and Rion for burst DPS, Cornelia and Mireille for tanking, Sylvia for solo performance), have some unique perk that nothing else in the game can truly replicate (Lapis' ridiculous DoT on top of attack buff, Rinne's screen-covering multi-target heals and invisibility, Rakshasa's reusable timestop), or combine multiple major strengths (Aisha gives you 15% HP, meteors and CD reduction, Sarah massively buffs her target classes while being immune to physical damage).

As things are now, Ibuki doesn't do anything particularly new, isn't at the top of her rarity for DPS, and only has her low cost as a draw point in a game where UP worries are practically non-existent. If she was a plat with a watered-down version of her kit, she would be much better received, but she suffers because blacks are held to different standards. Other girls like Frederica, Ingrid, Farne and Elmira are in a similar situation, being looked over because they're merely excellent (which is what "shit" in black tier listing means) rather than game-breaking.

The sole exceptions are Koharu and Anri: Koharu is theoretically strong and a plat event unit of her class would show up a lot in budget clears, but using her is such a pain that you would rather avoid it if you can, while Anri delivers on exactly nothing that you'd want a black enchanter to do.

>>18410425
If you already have better tanks, not especially. Dine and Dina do deal buffed AoE damage with their SAWs, which is nice for a class which usually doesn't do fuck all for damage, but there are far better blacks for offense. Worse still, the sisters have zero MR, and their physical sturdiness has been beaten by other blacks as well (some of whom have at least a little MR or much larger HP pools, or both).

I sincerely hope that Heavy Armor 2AW rescues the class from irrelevance, because Gellius is the only one I would bother with outside of necessity brought on by scarcity. It's not that Dine/Dina are genuinely bad, just that there are objectively better tanks. You know that things are all screwy when players go straight for offensive duelists or hybrid classes over the supposed 'dedicated tank class'. A lot of this problem stems from the way the game is designed at higher levels of play, where a powerful, low-block unit who can effectively cut her way through dangerous enemies without being overwhelmed is generally preferable to an oldschool brick wall. With how many multi-target or AoE options there are now, bog standard lane control isn't nearly as important as it used to be. Devtea stubbornly holding out on HA 2AW and really amping up the magic/true damage in newer content doesn't help anything, either.

+30 MR and much higher HP/defense, please and thank you. Don't you dare leave Heavies on the same level as BSAW Samurai, because that wouldn't fix a damn thing--they need to be the most all-in tanks in the game if they're ever going to come off the bench.

>>18410584
A plat Nekomata would be dogshit
The only thing that salvages Koharu are her own unit exclusive passivess, her class is still a failed experiment that'd honestly work better as a token for another class like a possible AW2 for Hexers but Koharu already has a hard enough time being bullied by Orochihime, no need to add further salt to the wound

>>18410625
Give me one with a "unit is invisible, automatic + permanent" skill on a decent cooldown, and she'd be pretty useful for some cases.

But yeah, I don't like nekomata either, because it's the apex of the "existing class, but as a youkai!" trend. There was virtually no reason for her not to be a hexer, but I guess I'm glad because we got a cuter hexer in return.

>>18410584
You're not wrong, but my reply wasn't really aimed at arguing in favor of Ibuki over other blacks. The anon I was replying to implied that Ibuki was a poor Sailor and a poorly designed unit in general, which I disagree with.

Even though I agree with the spirit of your post, most players don't have the luxury of picking and choosing from every (or even most) black(s) in the game. It's fine and dandy that Rion can put out 100k+ DPS when everything lines up for her, or that Lapis can buff-stack certain girls to a ridiculous degree, but not everyone has Rion or Lapis. Besides, quite a few of the players who like to dump on Ibuki don't have a team superior enough to lose performance from slotting her, so it's not as though they actually have a good reason for ignoring her potential outside of not having the resources to put into her. Fact of the matter is, unless you already have an endgame team of the very strongest gacha blacks, Ibuki is a contender for solid, convenient damage output.

>>18410414
Confirmed never use Ibuki. Her being shit black because she isn't better than plats of her class, unlikes major black. She's nothing compared to other blacks of same cost

>>18410659
Hello I am Devon Teal here to introduce the new class in 千年戦争アイギス, 念動使い (Psychicers).
They are ranged units whose fast single target attack delays enemies, like witches.
EXCEPT
Their attacks are physical!
And they have like, 5 MR more or something, whatever.

>>18410688
>You're not wrong, but my reply wasn't really aimed at arguing in favor of Ibuki over other blacks
I see, my bad then. Agreed on that Ibuki is great for players who don't have the entire black roster available to them, she is a fully majin-capable unit and the average free/low-paying player who rolls her has no reason not to invest in her.

>>18410708
At least they started moving away from this lately, they've been filling out the 1-2 unit classes and lifelinkers sound like they have a genuinely interesting gimmick.

>>18410048
Yeah, I have none of the pickups. Frederica is the only one I wouldn't be sure about getting, honestly. It's like you say, Lapis is beyond broken which makes me want to roll for her, but the chances are just so low. I'm 5 away from a pity black so just trying to figure out what my plan is. Pickup definitely seems better.

>>18410072
>I'm a huge fan of watching enemy health bars melt and it's a very pleasing and erotic experience to see them decrease like that
I also have this affliction, friend. I blame the 'Tales of' series.

There's quite a few blacks I want for my dick, but the allure of damage is so tempting. Kayou would be good for my dick if I get her, at least.
Ingrid is probably my biggest dick want, with Sophie, Altair, Grace, Kurama, Mephisto, Rion, Sarah (still have my ticket for her, thankfully), Diera, Molt, Towa, and Minerva also being dick wants.
I had almost every one of those that was out on cucktaku, alongside Nanaly and Despia and I miss them all.

My chances of a dupe are super low pulling on the Lapis banner, and there's always the off chance of hitting into Sarah, and getting to pick up Ingrid or Altair with my 2nd ticket instead, but that's too unlikely. I suppose pickup is just the smart choice.

>>18410708
Looking forward to the version that heals when not attacking.

>>18410782
>Ingrid is probably my biggest dick want
Excellent taste, my friend. She has a great body and the best thighs in the game imo.
>>18410806
We should make a dev tea bingo of sorts.

>>18410701
>isn't better than plats of her class
Wrong. The only plat who comes close is Reanbell, and Rean is a Dancer whore with -100 range, no personal attack buff of any kind, and no access to true damage; high defense necessarily shuts her down, while Ibuki can punch through it much more easily.

Amelie's stealth is her only real attraction, and Viera can't kill anything herself.

I have used Ibuki, against Vepar: her fragility often got her prematurely downed in the early-game of the later maps (the larger Naga hit very hard past L10), but Rinne's token was always there to get her back in the fight. She hung in there all the way to the end of L15, and massacred many a sea creature. Other than this specific instance, I haven't used her for anything more than novelty runs--no reason to, since I've fully cleared everything and my blind team is rock solid. Doesn't mean she didn't pull her weight when I needed her to.

Nice, she's back.

>>18409943
>>18409989
I've always placed her at the edge of my ranged units' range rather than off in the middle of nowhere. Basically treating her like a melee slot witch. Been thinking of doing her SAW because the range increase ends up including enemies that still aren't in range of other attackers and having her do nothing during the duration isn't useful even though the paralysis had helped during magic city. They should've kept the range increase on her SAW at least.

>>18410893
This honestly just shows how Ibuki is great for her class, but the real problem is that sailors are just an awful class in general.

The new revival girl in FKG is some ugly glasses girl that isnt cute at all

who is that chocolate witch supposed to be anyway

>>18411755
Redundant much?

Iris Mysteria went into long-term / renewal maintenance today. If you had bought Flarite with DMM points, you can get them refunded on the game page.

The devs also put up their plans for the renwal:

* Complete revamp of the battle system

* Complete revamp of the stats / leveling / character interaction system

* FIxing performance issues (load times, memory problems, random errors)

* More /new content

* Android version (supposedly at the same time as the relaunch)

So basically, strip off the assets created by August and put them into a new game. Here's to hoping that they got a capable dev team this time.

>>18411998
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Ryuryu

>>18408911
I'm at my pity black too and I don't know if I should go for it, it's a 50/50 chance to either get god tier Lapis or another kuso black.

>>18412083
oh... yeah
This game has too many characters

>>18410048
>the rate-up multiplier isn't that high
You have more than 50% chance of getting a rate up black if you roll one during a multiple blacks rate up (slightly less than 50% if it's just one black). They don't think it be like it is but it do.

When is Barbatos starting?

>>18412035
I pray that they are successful. Had quite a bit of fun reading the dialogue, but the gameplay was just so bad.

Hopefully I get to keep my SSRs.

>>18411755
>>18412032
Oh come on now, that's a low blow. Lobelia has a cute design, a cute personality gap (she's a strict teacher but also secretly a hard M) and nice contrast with our existing (and cute) teacher in Centaurea. I had been waiting for a glasses-girl from Lotus Lake for a very long time, and she was beyond expectations.

Then again, I certainly wouldn't mind a second. We only have Mimosa, Iris, Cymbidium, Lobelia, Pingpong Mum, Sweetpea and Centaurea as the glasses-girls of FKG (plus Rosemary if you count her), and only two of them are recent, while lolicon knightmasters get petite girls by the dozen. Surely I can't be the only one who is rooting for, say, a glasswort who works as a glassmaker (the plant's actual use) and is Haruna Kamijo-tier obsessed with spectacles? Glasswort's flower meaning is "pretension", so I guess she would secretly have good eyesight, wearing a non-prescription pair instead and being embarrassed because she's not a true glasses-girl?

Did anyone here kill the Hanny King? I want to kill this fucker.

>>18412828
>Old
>Big tits
>Glasses

That's three strikes for this ugly hag, I dont want her anywhere near my garden. She'd probably get off on me rejecting and abusing her anyway because that's a hard M thing.

>>18406982
>the nigger orc

The new dark elf's story is really cute. I kinda want to max her out, even though I thought my SC would finally get a break from charisma/stamina refreshes.

The last map is going to be the best way to farm isn't it?

>>18402957
The other girls chocolates are flanked by Patel's.

>>18413019
Personal call between guaranteed drops at 12 or trying your luck and abandoning failed runs at 7. I prefer the former, it's less of a hassle.

Also:
>Sacred Forest's Guardian Ricola
>Green Forest's Guardian Fuuka
>Dark Forest's Guardian Aida
>Makai Forest's Guardian Linaria

We're going deeper and deeper. Will Prince run into a "Leviathan forest's guardian" who takes care of flesh vines and bone trees?

>>18412987
>not liking sexy brown fit orc

Time to pick Osiris every time for this kamipro popularity poll

>>18402957
My Mia is too good to me and lets me enjoy a relatively stable gold supply.

>>18413131
I have 14 max stam so might be more efficient for me to run the 7 stamina, since I won't be getting a lot of excess to help toward another run. Not too confident I can even run the 12 stam based on what I'm seeing in videos due to all of the magic damage.

>>18412865
I'm trying with stunlock strats but it hasn't been working out. I'm trying to get the timing right so he walks long enough to get into range of all my ranged damage before falling below 99%. But I'm not really fast enough to activate all the unit skills I need to within the really short amount of time, and also he doesn't have a huge attack windup like some other bosses that would signal exactly when to use the next stun.

Hopefully in a few more tries.

>>18402957

Why are there constantly half ap disasters during advent battles/raid battle
It makes zero sense.

>>18413486
Well I got it. Kokoro's stun is way harder to work with than Mikoto's, since it's a projectile with a travel time, whereas Mikoto's is instant. And I should've just stunned first then placed Racua on top of him.

>>18412865
Yeah. Silvia soloed him, then took a nap.

Does Valentine Ryuryu's skill stack with Estelle's?

>Roll pick-up cautiously hoping to grab either Vivian, Elizabeth, or Clarice but to not pull any Black that would reset my counter
>Get Lyla and Fermi

Damn desire sensor.

>>18414041

Speaking of which, bandits AW2 when rEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18412035
That's one of the ones that didn't want gaijinbucks wasn't it?

>>18414094
Same time as mage and heavy armor

>>18413158
Holy shit my sides. The semblance is uncanny.

Osiris is too cute.
Too bad I'll never get her.

Just got back into Nutaku FKG after leaving it for months. Is it just me or did the devs somehow made stamina pots harder to get on Nutaku? I remember getting a bunch of them without even trying on the DMM version.

This fucking hanny fucker

>>18415020
I think someone said in a previous thread that the nutcases introduced them early, long before the content that gives them to you was due to be implemented.

>>18412865
I wanted to three star and kill him. I failed the first time as I didn't stun him in time and he killed some of my team around his spawn. Second try I didn't retreat everyone before his stun went off so he killed some people. Third try I retreated everyone off before stun ran out and finished him off with Rakshasa and Moltena dogs.

>>18415227
iirc DMM introduced stamina pots around when Hagi/ Bush clover's release. Might be mistaken, though

I really hope this month won't have any more black unit farm revivals... Eterna and Haku ate all of my SC, I have only like 15 more to spend for Legend Stamp Card.

>>18415227
It was the case back then, but I don't think that applies anymore. DMM added both stamina nectar and its quest during the second week of Lamb's Ear's event, which is event #48. Nutaku is also currently at the second week of its 48th event (Strelitzia, EN schedule differs a bit because of Christmas/New Year), so if they haven't implemented the quest yet, they're slightly late.

I'd recommend bugging Acolyte for news on the nectar, because it essentially makes stamina a non-issue (and has a role in story too - Acacia's squad often gets assigned to guard caravans carrying it, hence their Aqua Shadow theme). While you're at it, you may also want to ask about the time-limited quests and daily log-in bonuses that give these, I know they're stingy with flower stones but at least they can hand out the fairies, affection items and nectar.

Kanpani Girls finally reveals the exact resume rates.

>>18416440
Can you translate this for EOP likes me?

>>18416451
Dropdown menus at the top change the criteria:
- Items used (mailbox, sake etc.)
- Ad Phrase 1 (class-specific etc.)
- Ad Phrase 2 (based on PR level)
- Characters assigned to PR division

Tabs at the bottom show character-wise rates:
- Overall (rarity-wise)
- Spotlight
- Others (non-spotlight, divided by rarity)

Table has 2 columns:
- Chance of 1 appearing in 4 (i.e. a single normal draw)
- Chance per single resume

>>18416451
It's a calculator where you input a bunch of data to find the resume rates. From left to right :
Resume bonus (gold/silver/purple post, black envelopes, normal).
Class recruitment.
Ad phrase.
Level - Rarity - Numbers of the employees inside the PR building.
The rate below is divided into 2, rate for 4 resumes and single resume.

>>18416588
>>18416602
Thank

>can't pick who to vote for
I wish there was a list of all himes and some description of what happens in their scenes, at least tags or something

>>18416754
http://神姫プロジェクト.攻略wiki.com/index.php?神姫性能一覧

Hime list. Every single hime's page should have a short description of their scenes.

>>18416754
Just go to the gacha and check the himes there. The more you go to the start of the list, the higher chances to get non-vanilla stuff.

>>18417212
>一般版では見れません
Am I missing something?

>>18417253
Can't be watched in the "all ages" version, just like on nutaku. Must be on the 18+ client.

>>18416754
http://kamihimedb.thegzm.space/

>>18417279
I think he was talking about how there is no description of their scenes, contrary to what that anon was saying.

>>18417346
wow, nice. Thanks

When I get my free draw in 2 hours, what banner should I pop this sucker on? Still torn between Lapis and Kayou/Nanaly/Aix.
I'm the guy who has Sylvia, Mireille, Rinne, Nataku, and the 2nd black ticket still in box waiting for Sarah.

This is a tough one. Lapis is broken, Kurama is cute, but the pickup has decent stuff in it.

>>18417628
I'll tell you what you seem to want to hear, go for Lapis. Believe in the heart of the gacha.

>>18417747
It's moreso I can't figure out what the right choice is. There's a lot of decent off banners in the normal banner for when I don't get Lapis, because rate up is a lie, yeah? But there's also shit ones.
Nanaly is Nanaly, and Aix seems really solid. Kayou and Frederica are cute.
I need ranged damage so the second banner seems like the obvious choice, but it's hard to resist the allure of OP Lapis.

How does the Jewel Princess prereg work? I've been doing the free gacha pulls but it seems like there is something involving upgrading the girls' rarity and some kind of campaign with tiers?

>>18418619
If you pull the same girl as one of the ones that you already have, they will automatically combine and level up. If they are below 5*, they will increase one rank above if you get another dupe after they reached the max level.

You are probably talking about the "Invite a Friend to pre-reg" campaign. Which is basically the usual type that you see.

>>18418693
Ah, thank you, I haven't done a pre-reg before so thanks for clearing that up. I've already pulled the 5 star I want (Peridot, yay) so hopefully I can rank up my favorite 4 star.

So I went for the safe banner and got rewarded with the black my dick wanted the most from it.
How is she, lads?

>>18418872
You got any other youkai or Teeny? she's a good buffer but if you want to make her do good damage you will need several other units to buff her instead. That and SAW is needed too

>>18418907
Unfortunately, no.
I got a base copy of Rindou from the last event, but she's no CR, and no skill levels so she doesn't really even count as a unit, right?

So Kayou is just a benchwarmer until SAW? Unfortunate, oh well.

>>18418872
She's great. Very cheap, high magic damage. 20% off a boss' health isn't half bad either.

The animation for Cornelia using her skill is really cool

>>18418937
Rindou is shit because she's an event plat and tries to be a tank while being part of an attacker class
in reality, Itsuki(gacha plat oni) will be better at tanking because of HP-draining SAW, on top of having superior damage

Either way, Kayou is fine with just the SAW, but keep in mind she(like most youkai) has good synergy with buffers, in case you roll some later

>>18418939
Oh, neat. Thanks. She any good for earlygame before SAW? I noticed she has a 2x multiplier for her original skill and was thinking she might just be able to outstat things for me, for now.

>>18419009
Got it, thanks. Her SAW is going to be quite a while out, it seems. I have Sylvia, Sarah, and Rinne all fighting for theirs first. Nataku and Kayou seem to be the backlog.

Feels kind of odd to have 6 blacks already and almost no good plats.

>>18419048
Who are your plats?

>>18419048
>6 blacks already and almost no good plats.
Let me go find some sympathy for your plight

>>18419048
Kayou's actually pretty good and I found myself depending on her quite a bit since I lack early game blockers considering all my shit is late game tanks

Plop her down with a healer and her SAW should burn down rushes or any trash that gets near her with real ease

>>18419048
>She any good for earlygame before SAW?
She was the first black I got and she was a huge help for me when I started.
With her skill, stats and class-traits she can be useful in the earlier maps as both wave clearing and dueling. And then when you start getting into more challenging content her SAW will be an excellent source of magic damage and anti-rush.

>>18419075
Gacha plats are 2x Shelt, 2x Lilia, Clarice, Junon, Fermi, Rina, Lina, Racua, Victoria, Melvina, and the Jester bunny.

Only one I know is good for sure is Clarice. I shouldn't have said they were bad, I guess, but not what I was hoping for.
You know, no Jeromes, Zenobias, Uzumes, etc.

>>18419134
Err, Rina/Lina. Not sure what the proper name is.

>>18419134
Now I can see why you wanted that ranged black.

>>18419173
Yeah, pretty much. Bashira + Victoria sort of works for archers, but the lack of Spica is hurting. Having nothing else is brutal though - Leona is serving as one of my main ranged dps, so I'm not in a good way.

Are any of those plats aside from Clarice any good?

>>18419256
>>18419256
Melvin is the best plat princess and Racua would be good if you didn't have Sylvia given she's basically a discount Sylvia.
But yeah.
This sunday's palt also really won't help you at all, Irene's kind of the worst meido

>>18419299
Ah, that sucks. Thanks for the information though, anon. I'll at least keep Melvina in mind if I need a princess alongside Sylvia in the future.
Shame I couldn't get enough TC to get a copy of Haku.

>>18419256
>>18419134
No Jerome, Zenobia or Uzume, to be sure, but you do have your share of above-average units. Melvina and Shelt are exceptional: Shelt can tank anything bar true damage (which is pretty much limited to second form Kimaris and White Emperor) without question for 20 seconds, while Melvina has a black-tier AW passive that gives you 13 seconds of stun in addition to serving as a decent duelist (and although majin are immune to paralysis, her ability works against everything, including the aforementioned Kimaris).

Most of your other units are in the "raise if you like them" category. Junon brings silver drop rate increase and low-cost assassination to the table (handy for Phenex and 4* challenges), Fermi is underappreciated due to Lucia being a free unit but has a great AW passive and stronger heals in return for being harder to use, Victoria is likewise passed over for the Bashira/Spica duo but will meet your archer needs if you find her cuter, Lilia is a middle-of-the-road duelist that benefits greatly from Sarah, and Racua is a well-designed and extremely fun unit that I would recommend if not for you already having Sylvia, as >>18419299 says - you have little use in paralyzing golems because you can duel them already.

And then there are Lina and Lepur, who should probably be left until later. Lina is super cute and dishes out good damage for her cost, but as a maid her use is limited unless you're running her target units (which you aren't), while Lepur doesn't need levels because she will only ever be used for her skill.

>>18419299
Irene was the best maid, but they failed to give her glasses back in her 2AW. I will never forgive Dev Tea for this atrocity, and neither for Farne's phantasm summoner path.

What the heck is his problem?

>>18419369
Victorya's main flaw is that she prioritizes magic unlike Bashira who prioritizes ranged in general.
Shit like a lich or some such is very easily baited by timing your deploys or with tokens, but the real ranged threat in this game is the pack of like 5 or 6 black goblin archers who just sit in place and rape everything in range with their volleys, and if they show up, Bashira will fuck their show up, whereas Victoria's priority mechanics might make her ignore them

>>18419369
That was helpful, thanks anon. I guess I will raise Victoria after all, and having Sylvia + Melvina to combo with Sarah sounds like it could be pretty strong. That AW passive on Melvina seems insane.

Finding away to use Shelt is going to be a bit odd because of her cost + skill use time, but I'll definitely keep her in mind for things. Maybe she'll let me cheese my way through Immortal Beast and the damn triple lich.
Not being able to use Sarah yet is suffering, she's such a beauty.

>already had Blanche
>got Moltena now
Lads..

No.

>>18419406
How do you judge Minerva? Just got her luckily from SP and raised her to SAW.

>>18419852
Put a rearguard on the field and she's good to go, sorta.

>>18419823
What a rude young lady

>>18419879
Have Aisha, yea. Worth going preggo for her?

>>18419902
Only if you take responsibility

>>18419907
xD

>>18419647

Easiest 400 RC of your life

>get 3 copies of Haku including the base one
>down to 5 SC for legend stamp card
Fuck this
I can't do this anymore
When will she get her revival re-run again exactly?

>>18420513
Why in the world does anyone keep trying to mincost/max SL revival units in a post-fame Aigis

>>18420521
Because with the amount of black units you get black bond fairies are still scarce considering the 25% mincost chance?
Because you're better off saving them for gacha blacks instead of event units you can buy copies for?
On the other hand, that grind for revival blacks from scratch really is abysmal, it should theoretically be easier that the original event run factoring the x1.5 multiplier on crystals during three week days, but it doesn't feel that way at all.

>>18420513
And, of course, she just refused to get to 10/10 skill after LITERALLY ~20 Bonboris.
I can't fucking deal with this RNG bullshit.

>>18420535
I'd rather not waste SC on units that don't benefit that much from a lower cost (anything above 25 ain't gonna make a bit of diference) and just throw my rocks at the bitch goddess.
At least I get RC that way.

>>18420513
I've spent 17 SC this month on charisma/stamina refreshes. I think 5 of those were today on farming for her but I'm still working on the grind. I was only going to get the one extra copy but lower cost sounds nice since all of her dragon friends are high cost too.

>>18420535
The recent oni event would've needed a bunch of runs too and that was just for a plat and a guaranteed outcome. These feel worse due to the rng of raising them.

Meh. Maxed both Eterna & Hakunokami with 11 bonboris.

git gud with the rng gods.

>>18419377
There's a setting in options to banhammer him.

>>18419884
She's just focused on the important things.

So if Phonia is supposed to be Sandalphon what are all the other angels
also can we like
have one playable angel that doesn't fall from grace
thanks dev tea

>>18421410
Those angels are still in heaven.

Oh. It's gonna be the classic assault the heavens after taking care of hell story. Not that I mind. Kichikuou Rance did it well enough.

So as a new player, if I got Sill to 27 cost, what should I do with the extra copies?
Use them as skill fodder for the first one, or use them as mini tin-cans?

>>18421410
>have one playable angel that doesn't fall from grace
Would that be one that isn't bound like everyone else?

>>18421410
I thought the heavens want to wipe out humanity? I'm pretty sure simply joining us would be cause for them to fall from grace.

>>18421497
Tin Cans are super easy to farm, I get way more than I know what to use them for. So Skill Up fodder, and then if she maxes out on skill, you can do whatever you want with the extra copies, but I wouldn't waste Fairies on using them as XP, either feed them straight, or like 3 Sills + 1 Fairy, or sell for 3 RC.

Do they ever change these raid events so they don't give you pages and pages of fucking garbage

>>18420535
>Because with the amount of black units you get black bond fairies are still scarce considering the 25% mincost chance?
Why are you even mincosting a subpar black with such a high base cost anyways? Why are you not saving your crystals to roll for a better black from the gacha?
>Because you're better off saving them for gacha blacks instead of event units you can buy copies for?
Too bad you won't have gacha blacks because you have squandered all your SCs trying to mincost non-gacha blacks.

>>18421579
It was "Keranos wants to wipe humanity", at this point we don't know about any other gods.

>>18423144
When you're going to the pity black every time or won't reach it before legend stamp, spending SC on refreshes for an event black looks like a better use than more silvers and golds.

Plus maybe they actually want to use her?

>>18423300
I'd also say you actually play the game this way.

>>18423144
>Too bad you won't have gacha blacks because you have squandered all your SCs trying to mincost non-gacha blacks.
Are you stupid or something? Do you have brain problems? What part of "Because with the amount of black units you get" don't you understand?
I have ~6 gacha blacks, none of them mincosted.
2 of them aren't even -1 cost.
I have too much units, and hardly enough bond fairies. Do you realize how much fairies you need on average to mincost one unit?

>>18423388
>I have ~6 gacha blacks
Is this supposed to be impressive
Here's a little known fact about aigis by the way:
most units do not benefit at all in any meaningful way from reduced deployment cost

>>18423388
>I have ~6 gacha blacks, none of them mincosted.
It seems like you're the one who's retarded, going after mincosting instead of getting more gacha blacks.