/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Good job leaving the subject out.

>>18389230
Thanks

Last thread got derailed before I got an answer so I'll ask again.
What's a normal retention rate to have?

>>18389341
There isn't one.

>>18389341
100%

>>18389341
as high as you can get it based on how much time you can bear doing reviews

>>18389341
Depends on your new cards per day. Of course if you're learning 10 cards a day you're going to retain more than if you're learning 25 cards a day.
Most brag posts I see on /djt/ are in the 85-95% range. Of course those are the brag posts, so selective bias means that in reality it's going to be a bit lower. Personally I'm about 80% retention with 15 new a day.

How easy is MEXT undergrad?

>>18389410
I don't know, I'm just here to learn to read and listen to japanese
try asking /int/

>>18389341
([<your age>*e(0.982)*(#of new cards)]/10) mod(100)

>>18389341
About tree fitty.

>don't learn kanji, just learn words!

You realize you still have to learn exactly what the kanji in the words look like, right?

You didn't skip learning Kanji, you learned them while also trying to learn words.

And I guarantee you've learned them in a much less efficient manner than focused kanji study.

>>18389341
80% is about as low as you should like to see, 90% or above should be your goal.

>>18389585
That's not "learning kanji".

>>18389585
>And I guarantee you've learned them in a much less efficient manner than focused kanji study.
Citation needed.

>>18389601
>Half-assed is as good as focused

You even trying?

>>18389611
Citation.

>>18389585
You know what, you're right. We should also encourage schools to teach students common spelling patterns in English before teaching them any vocabulary. Clearly that's the better method for learning how to read.

>>18389620
It's almost like people tried doing this and it didn't work so they stopped.

>>18389620
It's more like

>We should teach the alphabet before we teach words

>>18389632
that's learning radicals, not kanji. dumbass.

>>18389641
>Words are groupings of radicals

First day here?

>>18389651
I'm pretty sure the alphabet doesn't consist of thousands of complicated characters with very little or no phonetic consistency

>>18389667
Well, you're right about the first part

>>18389585
>don't learn kanji, just learn words!
Yeah, its called learning a language rather than studying the parts its made of.

>>18389689
How can you learn to read if you can't spell?

>>18389689
Like I said, you still studied that part of it no matter what method you used. You just used a terribly inefficienct method

>>18389667
>very little or no phonetic consistency
How long have you been learning Japanese?

>>18389755
Longer than you.

>>18389741
By knowing one does not enable the other.
>>18389753
I really didn't study them, no many how much you autistically screech

>>18389755
You're a beginner.

>>18389766
>I really didn't study them

Then you don't know them. You won't be able to recognize one from another or write out a word that uses Kanji.

Oh wait... You DID study them. You just interleaved different types of study together to make an inefficient mess

>>18389779
Stop shitposting about things you don't understand.

>>18389782
>t. salty his method is shite

If only you'd given more thought to the process before wasting so much time

>>18389791
Who are you quoting?

>>18389791
Get out of /jp/. I have no idea where you came from but you don't belong here.

>>18389791
>>18389782
>ITT: Retards who can't speak Japanese arguing over who is better at Japanese

>>18389800
The important thing is that, knowing no Japanese yourself, you found a way to be superior to a shitposter and a troll.

>>18389800
>He thinks we're talking about who is better at Japanese

Learn english m

>>18389799
Didn't realize this was a safe space for Special Ed people

>>18389214
You forgot to put https://neodjt.neocities.org/newguide.html in the OP.

>>18389806
I'm not the one making claims on superior methods to learning a language, when everyone learns differently

>tfw realize I spent the past 7 months studying and don't even use japanese because im too lazy to read

>>18389810
The only person making such claims is the troll.

Also,
>everyone learns differently
is completely false and you have no place trying to act superior to people discussing learning if you actually believe this.

>>18389807
Hi Matt-or-matt's-friend. Stop polluting the thread with your garbage. Thanks and fuck off.

>>18389814
>troll
Is this 2008 or 2018?

>>18389830
This might surprise you if you're an idiot (you are) but people never stopped trolling. Getting tired of the word does not mean that you can sweep the problem under the rug.

>>18389832
You're the one acting like an assmad faggot, who also has a completely incorrect idea about learning. If you think that people can't learn in different ways from each other with varying success, than you are a narrowminded fool. Quit being so obtuse.

>>18389810
>when everyone learns differently
stephen krashen goes here

>>18389841
I'm sorry that you're an idiot who makes wild assumptions and projects them onto reality, anon.

>>18389779
>Then you don't know them. You won't be able to recognize one from another
Wrong, I read every day and do this.
>or write out a word that uses Kanji.
correct, I never practiced production because its a useless skill to the intended audience of this thread. Those that only want to consume material, not have over 100 native friends, not move and get a job there.
>Oh wait... You DID study them. You just interleaved different types of study together to make an inefficient mess
When learning to read was my goal, and learning words is the most important part of that goal, my efficiency was as high as it could possibly be.

>watching people that follow some neocities guide religiously defend it

Oh boy

>>18389841
The entire science of applied linguistics disagrees with you. Post citations or stop posting.

>>18389853
You and me both

>>18389853
only one person is religiously defending anything and they didn't get their ideas from "some neocities guide" they got them from fucking AJATT or something

>>18389851
>Wrong, I read every day and do this.
>I read everyday

Does it not register in your brain that reading is a form of studying? That's sad

>>18389858
i fail to see your contradiction

>>18389863
I'm sorry you can't keep track of your own argument anon, but you might want to stop posting if you're this confused.

>>18389866
>people
someone
>that follow some neocities guide
that follows some cult of personality

>>18389872
Not him but I think you're the one that's confused in this argument, his point has been clear from the start, you still learned the same shit and he claims that without putting direct attention into it it was less efficient.

>OP fucked up header
>Retards arguing about study methods already
>Absolutely no discussion of eigenvectors
Is this the worst DJT ever?

>>18389888
I'm sorry but if you can't see how >>18389863 has nothing to do with the argument then you might be literally retarded.

>>18389889
If someone doesn't back up their deranged viewpoint by calculating an eigenvector right this fucking minute this thread should be banned from /jp/.

>>18389897
Eigenvectors aren't something you calculate. They're a description of a kind of thing that happens when you perform linear transformations. Educate yourself.

>>18389903
>implying you don't have to do some sort of calculation to derive your eigenvector

reminder that the guide in the OP is bad and was outlined by someone who didn't know Japanese and https://neodjt.neocities.org/newguide.html is better

>>18389912
You don't derive eigenvectors anon. You derive eigenvalues.

>>18389913
>page not found
This is not a valid eigenpage

>>18389917
fix your web browser

>>18389916
You need to derive some sort of function to operate on in such a way that you are given an eigenvalue

>>>18389044
you'll get there eventually, or you'll kill yourself
But I would offer one bit of advice, try and do everything in the morning and get a regular sleep schedule

>>18389926
Do you know, like, any vector mathematics at all?

>>18389913
yeah new guide looks amazing actually

>>18389939
im glad you agree dekinai-chan
together we can uncover and shame all those who pretend to learn japanese, allowing only the sincere few to display their pride

>>18389913
>bad and was outlined by someone who didn't know Japanese
yeah the new guide sure is different in both of these areas

>>18389932
I do applied math in the realm of quantum chemistry. You know, the math that actually advances society... None of that silly pure math babyshit.

How long would it take to read Muramasa, assuming your first day of reading a beginner VN is day 0? About a year or two?

>>18389948
It's still not perfect but it's a lot better. If you can't tell the difference then you don't know enough Japanese to judge.

>>18389949
Oh. pls discover fast discrete spherical harmonics transform, we desperately need one, yours truly: realtime 3d audio engineer

>>18389954
What about them do you want? We have spherical harmonic wavefunctions, but they are largely used for probabilistic purposes.

>80 posts
>No Japanese
Yeah, this sure worked out for you huh, nerds?

>>18389954
>>18389962
でてけ

>>18389962
spherical harmonics are useful in storing or filtering three-dimensional sound sources but using more than a few orders of harmony is extremely slow
right now I'm approximating it by doing crazy filtering to a 3D DFT and doing PVQ storage (see: celt/opus/daala) but it's not good enough, I have to choose between directional leakage and sparkling artifacts

a stereo audio source is a close match to a complex DFT, but that only handles a single dimension, not three

>when even /int/ is better at having threads about Japanese

>>18389974
>He doesn't know that linear algebra and Japanese language skills are closely intertwined
Never gonna make it

>>18389980
What is the exact field of your work?

>>18389996
real time audio spatialization research for VR

>>18389993
No, some /sci/ pricks are infinitely better than normalfags that infested at the end of the last thread

>>18389913
>New guide? Ok let's check it out
>Step 1
>Memorize the Hiragana and Katakana

TRASH

you learn these by reading

>>18390003
nice meme

>>18389993

>>18389999
So are you focusing more on simulating sound, or recording it in such a way that if someone were to consume VR content, the sound would change with the direction they were facing?

>>18390003
>Learn these by reading
>Dummy, just learn the letters by reading the words that the letters make

>>18390020
simulation
we have an okay resonance/propogation estimation thing as long as you don't get too close to surfaces (that requires absurd amounts of oversampling to sound physically correct) but we need to do 3d encoding of sound samples and sound pickups or else we can't simulate their travel in different directions in a physically reasonable way. not doing this causes it to sound like those crappy reverb plugins that you hear in music made with cheap DAWs in the early 2000s because of phase construction/cancellation between bounces being unnatural (natural sound sources send slightly incoherent signals in every direction)

Would you both be so kind as to discuss your shit on /sci/ ffs

>>18390042
This is infinitely better than the argument they snuffed out. Let it play out naturally, it'll end soon.

>>18390042
Read the thread OP image the topic of this DJT is eigenvectors

>>18390036
Unfortunately, the spherical harmonics I deal with are applied to finding chemical properties of things such as electrons around a nucelus and their expectation values/energies, or ionization energies. From what you're saying, a DFT would be the way to go in terms of separating frequencies of discrete sources, though I'm just a little confused at where that starts to fail. Nonetheless, it sounds interesting

>>18390047
good point

How many anki cards are too much in one day? How many do you do?

>>18390063
the issue with DFTs is that multidimensional DFTs are anisotropic and loop like a torus instead of like the surface of a sphere (i.e. a 2d DFT loops spatial +x to -x, and +y to -y)

you can get away with using a 3d DFT to encode a "heightmap" on the surface of a sphere, but not without lots of padding and filtering to prevent lapping artifacts and anisotropy artifacts, which is where my problem lies

there are audio standards that use spherical harmonics but they're weird ad-hoc garbage with special weighting and they don't work right

>>18390083
I do 25. This allows me to learn roughly 10,000 new things per year

>>18390087
Do you have any links to research around this subject? Sounds interesting.

>>18390119
no it's all in-house NDA'd stuff, aside from DSP frequency domain 101 stuff

>>18390083
20 new a day. I tried more, reviews piled up heaps.
Well they still piled up even now. Too stubborn to lower it.

>>18390127
So you're trying to figure out some proprietary method to simulate this, then. Why do you need to calculate it in 3D spherical harmonics, when it's ideally only traveling in one linear path to the subject? Reverb? Or is it the fact that the sound could be emerging at an angle from the surface?

>>18390137
the simulation part is basically just raytracing sound traveling through space as though it were made of particles instead of pressure waves
we basically have a 3d representation of the signal for sampling what kind of "waveform" the sound has from its generator/source in 3d space when being propagated in a particular direction
for example, a guitar sounds different from its front than its back, and the different points on the surface of a sphere correspond to different angles of sampling the sound from the sound generator
you can imagine that linear interpolation between a small number of recordings for a small number of directions is a bad idea, since they're going to be sufficiently different to have phase cancellation problems (e.g. mixing the sound in "aww" with the sound in "whee" together doesn't result in the sound in "then"), so we're oversampling thousands of recording directions onto a very blurry low-passed model instead, but this is where our problem lies. no matter what we do there's at least a little noticeable artifacting from doing this with DFTs or spatial filters. i've experimented with some wavelets that are similar to spherical harmonics and they get the job done, but they're absurdly slow

>>18390171
シミュレーション部分は、基本的に、圧力波の代わりに粒子で作られているかのように、空間を通って進む音をレイトレーシングするだけです
基本的には、特定の方向に伝播するときに、サウンドがその発生器/ソースから3d空間のどのような種類の「波形」をサンプリングするための信号の3d表現を有する
例えば、ギターの音は、その背面よりも正面とは異なり、球の表面上の異なる点は、音発生器からの音をサンプリングする異なる角度に対応する
少数の方向の録音の間に線形補間は位相の相殺の問題を持つほど十分に異なるため、悪い考えです（例えば、 "aww"の音と " "whee"は一緒になって "then"のサウンドにならない）ので、代わりに非常にぼやけた低域モデルに何千もの録音方向をオーバーサンプリングしていますが、これが問題の原因です。私たちが何をしていても、DFTや空間フィルタでこれを行うことから、少なくとも目立ったアーチファクトはありません。私は、球面調和関数に似たウェーブレットを試してみましたが、彼らは仕事を終わらせましたが、彼らはばかげて遅いです

>>18389585
Learning kanji means memorizing all the things listed in my pic. None of "I'm studying kanji only" retards do it ever because you can't brag about learning kanjis later. So they are contest themselves with half-ass vague english keywords that are often wrong.

>>18390083
>How many anki cards are too much in one day?
Differs for everyone, and even in an individual is going to vary depending on their current skill level and what they're learning. Just do however many you can do where it's still sustainable for you.

>>18390184
ban evasion

>>18390193
>t. doesn't understand what RTK is for

Hint, it's explained on the first page

>>18390199
RTK doesn't teach you kanji.

>108 posts
>A total of 3 (three) kanji/kana characters ITT before >>18390184
WOW /jp/ is sure a great place to learn Japanese. I sure am glad /int/ has such a nice Brazilian friend to make their threads helpful, otherwise I may just say that 4chan is an eternal black hole or something!

>>18390209
>thread for learning a language
>literally predicated on people not knowing the language
>people don't post in that language
WHAT A TWIST

>>18390204
Look man, I don't need to know the 30 different ways to pronounce the letter "g", I just need to be able to distinguish it from other letters and write it out when I have to.

>>18390213
>thread is composed of 2 /sci/entists talking about something completely irrelevant
Sure is Japanese in here

>>18390213
But どうして can わたし learn 二 languages by only 話す one か

Kind of a weird request, but does anyone know any VNs which use a solid/opaque, patternless textbox for the text?

I'm on Linux so I can't use ITHVNR* to hook the text from VNs, but I could use KanjiTomo** instead to OCR the text... problem is, KanjiTomo seems to be completely hopeless when dealing with any text which isn't on a totally plain background, and every single VN I seem to take an interest in reading uses transparent textboxes, often with patterns on them to make matters worse, rendering KanjiTomo completely useless.


* doesn't work on my distro's version of Wine because it's too old
** capture2text doesn't work on any Wine version so is completely unusable on Linux

>>18390240
install archlinux

alternatively install tesseract and do screen grabbing with ffmpeg or <screenshot utility of your choice>, feeding the image to imagemagick or something before feeding it to tesseract so that you can filter out only the color that corresponds to the text

>>18390240
Only dumbasses use Linux.
Anyway, don't hook text, if you see something that you don't know, look it up in an online dictionary without copy-pasting from a hook program.It will stay in your memory much better than just hovering over with rikaichan

>>18390255
I tried this and it was a terrible idea. You at least need something to get digital text without individually looking up kanji one at a time.

>>18390249
>install archlinux
I tried installing it a while back but for whatever reason I just couldn't get a wifi connection set-up during the installation. I had actually installed Arch Linux in the past prior to that and everything went without a hitch, but with newer versions of the installer I just can't get a wifi connection no matter what so I can't install it.

>alternatively install tesseract and do screen grabbing with ffmpeg or <screenshot utility of your choice>, feeding the image to imagemagick or something before feeding it to tesseract so that you can filter out only the color that corresponds to the text
That sounds like an incredible pain in the ass.

>>18390255
There's no furigana in VNs which means I would have to draw every single unknown word into Google Translate. It would make my reading extremely inefficient and tedious to the point where I would hate doing it.

>>18390257
Well, it helped me a fuck ton. Yeah, it can be painful, but it is super effective. I never used a hook program on Axanael just because I was too lazy to set up one and I don't regret it. All of the words I came across and learned with manual look up, I can remember much better than the words I looked up through a hook program in other VNs.
Also, if you already have some vocab, most of the time you could just type out words you know that have your desired kanji, and then just cut off the okurigana if there is any, and then proceed to the next kanji.

おはようおにいちゃん

まにきゅあほしい

>>18390277
>too lazy to download and unzip a texthooker then double-click on the .exe file
>not too lazy to draw god only knows how many thousands of kanji into google's handwriting tool

>>18390199
I didn't specifically wrote about RTK. My point is that people (like one I'm replied to) don't actually learn kanji despite saying otherwise because it takes you much more than memorizing english keywords and readings. I agree that you have to know basic meanings of kanjis because you can't read made-up words otherwise, but my point still stands. If you learn kanji then do it properly. or else stfu about learning kanjis because you know even less than people learning words without examining kanjis.

>>18390240
From the few VNs I've read atleast some of them had a slider for the textbox transparency

>>18390286
>まにきゅあ
lrn2katakana

>>18390275
try antergos then

>>18390295
I never even once used google's handwriting tool for kanji, it is extremely painful to write kanji with my thinkpad's red tumor. Also I was able to look up most words just by typing out words I know and cutting off everything except the kanji I needed. If I came across a new kanji, I just went to jisho and it took me a minute or two to look up the kanji by radicals.
Also I read somewhere that Axanael needed a hook code or something and that you needed to update your game, so that is another reason why I didn't use a hook program on Axanael. I still used text hookers on other shit like 時計仕掛けのレイライン and はなひらっ！

>>18390240
Most should have options to be able to adjust the text box. You can also check VNDB for screenshots.

>>18390317
>>18390328
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a tag for that on VNDB, so I guess I'm just going to have to try things at random and hope one of them has the option. I was checking for such an option in the few I tried already but none had it. Maybe I was just unlucky.

>>18390322
I did. No luck.

>>18390338
try artix then

>>18390338
Stop playing low production games then until you get good.

>>18390338
try windows then

>>18390338
Newer VNs are probably more likely to have a slider

>>18390240
Do you manually select the kanji for kanjitomo? As in, use the zoom function and drag a box around the kanji. It's a lot more accurate that way but requires a bit of extra effort compared to just pointing at things with your mouse

>>183089044
How do you do 500 cards in 30 minutes? Do you just look at them and hit normal?

>>18390374
3.6 seconds/card is not that fast anon.

>>18390378
Yes it is. There's still load time, revealing the answer and then confirming.
You're basically button mashing to keep that speed up.

>>18390378
In my mind 3.6 seconds is barely enough to look at the card and hit a button at the same time

>>18390305
>If you learn kanji then do it properly
Please, do tell the class what your version of properly is.

>>18390387
>英語

>>18390388
>>18390390
The vast majority of your time is being spent on looking at the front of the card. Checking your answer is going to make a negligible contribution to the total time the card takes. Even if you assume 1/3 of the time is spent checking your answer (unlikely) that gives you ~2.5 seconds to arrive at your answer. That really isn't that fast.

>>18390364
>use the zoom function and drag a box around the kanji.
This feature doesn't seem to work on Linux. I click the Zoom button, but instead of getting a hollow, red square, I just get a solid black window, and it doesn't seem to do work properly at all. No matter what text I select to OCR (not that I can actually see what I'm OCRing), it always just gives me "耀" as the result.

>>18390387
What anime is this from? Looks familiar

>>18390416
>Even if you assume 1/3 of the time is spent checking your answer (unlikely)
1 second for the back side to load, you to confirm the answer and then hit a key? That's the unlikely part.

Now if you get a card wrong, you're going at such a speed that it's unlikely you mark it correctly. If you do actually mark it wrong and then need to relearn it, that adds a whole lot of extra time which means you're doing the other cards in even faster than 3.6 seconds.

>>18390429
>1 second for the back side to load
Oh sorry, I was making the assumption you weren't doing your Anki reps on a machine from 1987.

>>18390433
Was just about to say this, kek

>>18390429
>1 second for the back side to load
Did you embed youtube videos back there?

>>18390429
When you are going through cards you remember well you can spend less than 2 seconds per card easily. Also using keyboard shortcuts instead of clicking buttons is a lot faster

>>18390275
You might need to enable the dhcpcd service after rebooting. If the internet connection doesn't work from the live boot medium before chrooting into the new install then there's probably a deeper issue.

>>18390429
>If you do actually mark it wrong and then need to relearn it, that adds a whole lot of extra time which means you're doing the other cards in even faster than 3.6 seconds.
If a card gets put on your relearn pile, anki counts each time you see it as its own card for your daily cards studied stats.

install true retention

>>18390426
Getsuyoubi no Tawawa

>>18390209
You tagged a google translate post from a ban evading shitposter. You should probably not complain about the lack of Japanese in the thread when you clearly don't know Japanese.

>>18390433
>>18390435
How can you hope to learn Japanese when you don't even understand English?

>>18390447
You don't spend any extra time on the cards you got wrong?

>>18390429
>>18390511
>I think the answer is [x]
>Press space
>Answer appears (immediately), is [x]
>Press space
Yeah, there's absolutely no way its possible to do this accurately in 1 second. You'd need to be some sort of superhuman or something!

>>18390524
Yes. You would need to be a super human to do that.

>>18390525
I'm sorry that you've been cursed with the reaction time of a sloth, anon.

Where can I find Yotsubato past chapter 90?

>>18390543
In the next tank that's being released never.

>>18390525
Cool, looks like I'm superhuman then

>>18390558
>4 seconds a card
You're not even close to the time frame we were talking about.

>>18390558
I'm definitely not agreeing one second on the back of a card is hard, but I'm fairly sure that number only counts time on card fronts?

>>18390560
>0.3 seconds of difference
>not even close

>>18390552
There are translations though so scans definetly exist. Why won't people upload raws to Nyaa or something?

>>18390565
>+10%
You'd be the guy finishing dead last running 11 seconds in the 100 metres. In a marathon you'd be finishing 15+ minutes behind the winner. In Forumla 1 you wouldn't even be able to start the race because your pace is too slow.

So sure anon, you were close!

>>18390577
With the model proposed earlier, (2/3 time spent on front, 1/3 on back) this would increase time spent on back of card by 0.1 second, if you dont think its possible to do the back of a card in 1 second, I doubt you think it's possible to do it in 1.1.

And besides the 107% rule didn't stop marussia from backmarking every race.

>>18390429
>>18390433
>>18390442
>>18390447
>>18390378
>>18390416

Alright, I've done anki for 4 months now and I think its a good time to ask for advice.
So please, tell me how shitty I am so I can improve.
My reviews are usually around 500 cards per day but the average time shoots up to 70-80 minutes. And that's what anki measures, I usually spend around 1 and a half hours on reviewing and 30 on learning. Why are people so fast?
I've got a time limit of 8 secs and then I turn the card, what else can I do to be like >>18389927
with times for 1000 cards under half an hour?

does this need some kind of filter to make the hiragana 'blur' together, for readability or does this look fine
i turned off the default blur from higan

私の顔は船に座させたい
or
私の顔は船に座させる欲しい

>have a shit day of anki
>feel like I'm constantly pressing 'again' and retaining nothing
>check true retention rate
>80%

>>18390618
Use OpenGL and one of the image shittening-up filters from https://github.com/hizzlekizzle/quark-shaders

>>18390615
>what else can I do to be like >>18389927 (You)
>with times for 1000 cards under half an hour?
I'm that guy. My reviews are averaging 80 minutes, not under half an hour..

>>18390625
Ok cheers

>>18390624
True retention doesn't really matter. You can completely shit the bed and it'll still give you a high %.

>>18390627
I'm doing half you do in the same time. Thatś my problem.
I like doing reps but if there is something that bothers me is how long it takes.
And now i come here and see these review times...
How do I speed up?

>>18390635
If you fail all your reps it'll give you 0%. Don't talk about things you don't understand.

>>18390618
Seems like a question of preference. That text looks fine to me.

>>18390643
Pixelated/distorted fonts are hard to read if you're not used to reading.

>>18390638
Failing mature cards is the only thing that matters.
True retention doesn't differentiate between young and mature, so you could have an absolutely awful day but still get a high percent due to having a bunch cards which are fresh in your memory boost the percent back up.

おはようおにいちゃん

>>18390622
なおして

それ

わからない

>>18390645
Anki already shows mature card retention. True retention is merely a fix for the general correct %.

>Failing mature cards is the only thing that matters.
This is a common myth but it's not true. If you're failing too many young cards then you're not graduating cards to mature as often as you're supposed to in the first place and wasting a lot of time.

>>18390635
If I'm not mistaken, while you can score 0% by failing every card once with TR, you can't get 0% with the normal retention algorithm because it will count the successful retries. Doesn't always increase your %.

>>18390636
Describe what a rep actually looks like for you. Depending on what you're doing, your times might be fine.

>>18390647
どちらは正解？

>>18390652
You can get 0% correct rate by failing everything so many times that they get suspended.

>>18390644
The distortion wont go away, and a filter as a solution to pixelation wont fix the possibility of misinterpreting which parts of the character are supposed to be connected. I get what you're saying, but I don't know if I believe a filter would make a big difference.

>>18390622
First one, don't know why'd you want to use 欲しい with verbs unless you're talking about ~てほしい

>>18390654
He is saying they are both nonsense

>>18390657
Filtering makes it slightly less of a problem because your brain is picking up on the sharp edges less. Once basic filtering has been applied however further filtering doesn't help. The issue is that the "blur" filter in Higan is actually just the bilinear interpolation setting, which looks like ass. It's better to use a more advanced interpolation filter like bicubic or a gaussian blur.

>>18390659
i thought tai was only first person

i just want a boat to sit on my face

>>18390664
by sharp edges I mean pixelated corners by the way
You wouldn't notice them on a real CRT because they're so fuzzy.

>>18390665
たい means that a particular person wants the thing to happen. The idea that it's first person is only to contrast てほしい which is about wanting something to happen by someone else's volition.

>>18390665
Anon, boats can't sit

>>18390665
欲しい for wanting a noun
～たい for wanting to do a verb
～てほしい for wanting someone else to do a verb

>>18390653
Card is prompted.
Recall meaning
Say the word aloud.
Turn card, compare pronunciation and check meaning.
Rate.

Of course there is some variance but I usually try to do it in 8 or less. New cards take longer. Around a 45 per card.

>>18390647
そんなことよりパンツ欲しい

>>18390654
とらい

あげん

>>18390675
>>18390669
thank you, ive never heard of て欲しい until now

>>18390680
私の顔は船に座させって欲しい

>>18390684
>私の顔は船に座させって欲しい
You have made a mistake here. When using てほしい, you need to conjugate the verb first into て form. 座させて is て form of that verb, not 座させって.
Also 欲しい here is in most situations written just in hiragana because it is used as an extension of the verb's て form

>>18390649
To each their own.
There was an edited version posted a long time back in these threads (>>17260535
) which I've been using since then. The straight percentage that true retention gives feels misleading when compared to individual card type breakdowns.

>>/jp/thread/17260535 if the >> link didn't work.

>>18390693
i did not double check and should have known better, thank you

still, is my usage of causative done right? causative/potential/passive forms constantly stop me in my tracks and I need to use rikai to check almost every time. i basically just sum it up as さ = caus/あｖowel = pass/えvowel = poten

>>18390698
Early exit:
Is the first syllable after the verb stem a S syllable? Causative.
Is it long? Passive-potential.
Is it short? Potential.
Is it REALLY long? Passive and causative.

>>18390698
Yeah, your usage of causative is done right. Causative and passive forms are pretty tricky to get used to early on, so don't worry too much about them. Just keep reading and you'll get the hang of them.

>>18390676
Honestly the only way you're going to get faster is if you purposefully make yourself do things faster. If you have good retention then you might as well just deal with it taking you a bit longer than some others, there's nothing wrong with taking more time. If you retention is bad you might consider dropping your new cards/day.

>>18390684
私の顔は船に座させたい
私の顔は船に座させる欲しい
私の顔は船に座させって欲しい
　 　 ↑を

とらいあげん

>>18390679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLjRktbq0xk

べんきょうしてくれるかな

じゃねーよ

>>18390615
look it all depends on how and what you score
do you require yourself to recall the reading of the word or just the meaning
and for the latter do you only accept the exact meaning or some vague "general feeling of what it means"
do you do recall, recognition or both
do you do stroke order, etc
depending on these the difficulty level can have a tenfold difference between two stat screens

let's be honest, people are prone to mental gymnastics that make them feel good and let things slide
if she has so little red, that means she either knew most of it already from other sources or uses some bullshit grading methods - either way it's time wasted.

if you're having to do too many cards a day just stop adding new ones until you have time left for them

>>18390624
I've had that happen a few times. Not just with the true retention stat, but with the default one as well.

>Oh man, I really fucked up today. Let's go see just how bad that was...
>over 80% correct

にほんじん

えいごぜんぜんしゃべれない

ほんとう
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej_yBVPpD3I

>>18390746
>if you're having to do too many cards a day just stop adding new ones until you have time left for them
Not really. Its just that I think I could use that time to learn more things.
Here's how I do them>>18390676
Pure recognition.

>or some vague "general feeling of what it means"

I do this. Is this wrong?

>>18390746
>>do you require yourself to recall the reading of the word or just the meaning
Surely nobody is actually doing this, right?

>>18390814
Gotta go fast.

>>18390814
Are you telling me you don't recall reading?

>>18390771
ウィッリヲンカの命が難しかったね

>>18390826
No, I'm asking if there's actually people who DON'T do that.

Jesus christ. I could read most things up to this point but this page completely trashed me.

>>18390851
Wait, where? It's all simple grammar and kanji.

>>18390863
Words are fine mostly, but I cant for the life of me figure out some of this grammar or how all the sentences interact. I had to use a translation to help figure out what I didn't get . purple circles means I didn't understand the text bubble at all even if I could read the stuff inside it.

I'm probably going to do this personally in the future so I know exactly what to look up, kara at the end of lines is annoying as fuck and so is でも's seemingly thousand usages.

Red is clueless, yellow is iffy but I kind of understood. Like I know tari lists things and that's it.

>>18390879
Actually I could probably highlight way more like the と’ｓ throughout because I can't tell what their meanings are unless it's an obnoxiously simple context or sentence.

I feel like I need to go through all the basic grammar again.

>>18390885
>I feel like I need to go through all the basic grammar again.
Yeah, you're shit.

>>18390879
that's some really basic grammar, read a grammar guide or something

>>18390889
Should I use Sakubi or that The Manga Way thing? I'm not sure if I want to go through Tae Kim again for weeks.

>>18390896
https://djtarchive.neocities.org/bunpou/full_night.html

>>18390543
>>18390552
>>18390567
https://twitter.com/428and_tweet/status/957211355722821632

>>18390896
If you've already read a grammar guide then you should use a grammar lookup resource (DOJG or HJGP) instead. It's completely fine to check other grammar guides if the lookup isn't explaining things the way you want, though. The Manga Way and Sakubi are equally reasonable choices for a "second opinion" guide if you want to go that route.

>>18390879
Search up っきり in DOJG or somewhere. しておく is sometimes said as しとく and that's where しとこう comes from. Some nips like to use ～たり once (as opposed to ～たり～たり（する）) for some reason, even if it's technically incorrect, so you'll have to learn to deal with that. ～ものでもある has でも in place of が; you can figure out the difference between が and でも. やっていこう is just a conjugation of やっていく. 教えたげる is a short way to say 教えてあげる. Basically, follow what >>18390888 and >>18390889 said. However, it might be better to not learn grammar as strict chunks, otherwise you may come back here and ask what ～こともある is, despite having read about ～ことがある. Also, take note that contractions can happen; most of your confusion seems to come from not catching them.

>>18390896
I recommend Manga Way.

>>18390913

usとweについてしつもんがあります

ひとりでLet us go.はおかしいとおもいます

でもLet I go.っていっているのは

みたことがありません

Yes, we can.もおかしいとおもいます

weかどうかきめるのはだれですか

>>18390828
we wantは

ちゃんとききとれるんだけど

あたしたちがしゃべってるはつおんは

たぶんかなりおかしいとおもうよ

>>18389214
>got N2 two years ago
>got lazy after that because I can read most things I want
>check out N1 vocab/kanji/grammar today
>it's fucking hard
Well, fuck. I was hoping to finally finish up the JLPT this winter, but looks like that's not gonna be so easy. Wish me luck.

>>18390771
悔しいことはない
英語の制作なんかほとんどつまらないから

>>18390948
I really don't know how it's possible to make absolutely no progress in 2 years, even if you gave up all standard study methods. This is proof that not everyone is able to learn Japanese.

>>18390948
>>check out N1 vocab/kanji/grammar today
>>it's fucking hard

Is it? I read some porn games, did SKM N1 and passed it fine.

Then again, I knew that if I fail I'll be able to take it again in 6 months. That made me really relaxed about it, which I think helped me a lot.

>>18390948
さこつが

おとこだよね

いや

こまかいんだけどね

>>18390965
>>18390957
Maybe I'm just fucking retarded then. Full time work kinda wears you out, when I get home I just feel like I want to die so actually sitting down and studying is out of the question.

ITT: p*dofag realizes he's retarded

>>18390980
おしりもおとこだよこれ

足の指も

ひだりあしとみぎあしの

描き分けができてなくて怖い

>tfw realized my shithole of a country actually has JLPT
Well colour me shocked
As someone who started learning Japanese last year in November, should I do it in December? If so, which level should I try and do?

れーこーis

>iced coffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpzYvpORbGs

Ｄｅｋｉｎａｉ。

>>18390994
that's not suprising at all, most spic countries have it

>>18390999
Yeah I get that, but I didn't expect to find it in Kenya
I wonder how many people go for it, I should probably find out

You should be able to solve this

>>18391109
ボクノピコよい

>綱
>網

>>18391109
ok this is a hard one....... the pleasure of being cummed inside

>>18391126
No, it's welcome home, doofus.

>>18391120
boku no poco

>>18391125
つな？あみ？はがね？

つなはうえのきがする

はがねはどっちだっけ

あみはしただったような

あんまりきにしたことない

What is "may take -no" nouns mean?

>>18391167
this question isn't even english

>>18391170
How about I shit in the mouth of you

>>18391171
just write it in your native language and i'll use google translate or something

If になる is "will become"
Why is 頼りになる　"to be reliable" ?

>>18391211
turns out to be reliable

>>18391214
I figured it might be something like that, thank you.

>>18389903
>eigenvectors aren't something you calculate
???
You're the one who needs to educate himself homie.

>>18391238
you might want to learn english

>>18391240
I'm here to learn Japanese, not English.

>>18391243
apparently not if that was your first post all thread long

>>18391238
Determine, yes. Calculate, no. Transformations can have multiple eigenvectors.

>>18391244
>checking poster count to recognize new posters
>gatekeeping on a mongolian web spinning website

>>18391250
i have this thing called 4chan x that automatically marks posts from new ip addresses

>>18391252
Congratulations, how are your Japanese studies going?

>>18391253
i know japanese

>>18391252
Not him, but why do you bother enabling that setting?

It's already pointless, but dynamic IPs make it even more so.

>>18391260
it's enabled by default

>>18391255
Good contribution.

>>18391264
so is >>18391238

>>18391267
If you think it's a useless post just ignore it instead of starting an argument and derailing the thread.

>>18391269
tell that to >>18391238

>>18391109
膣内射精感謝
淫らとおもう

>>18391263
Is it? I'm pretty sure I never manually disabled it but it isn't active for me.

>>18391359
当て字って

あったほうがいい？

ないほうがいい？

>>18391461
よくわかりません

>Start learning vocab
>All those kanji
>All those different meanings
>Sometimes it's written in a completely unrelated way.
Man this is pretty hard.

>>18390806
do you know the difference between look, stare, peek, inspect and glance?
is it important to tell them apart?
sometimes yes, sometimes no
it's up to you to decide what you learn.

my point is if you look at two anki screens, you have no idea how they are scored
one of them might press again when meaning was right but thought ちゅうしょ and it should be ちょうしょ and be 30% red
the other guy just uses "vague ballpark concepts", pressing good on guessing cat on kanji for dog since they both are pets and is 99% green

guess who can read a book?

>>18390835
if you just read you might not care about the phonetic part or getting it 100% right

>>18389952
It's time to stop pretending that you know Japanese. Several years experience failing miserably doesn't count.

What we really need is a new guide that removes all links to the sakushitter's crown turd.

>>18391972
>jpg

>>18391972
The thing about no-adjectives using no as a case marker is normal Japanese linguistics.

Sakubi was written by multiple people (the writing style changes constantly) and it looks like it was shared in private before it was posted on 4chan. The earliest mention of it is from before it was posted in public.

>>/jp/thread/S16664303#p16674511

>Sakubi is a much better grammar source imo
>That hasn't been released yet.

I really hope people know better than to trust what you're posting at face value.

>>18390879
>Words are fine mostly, but I cant for the life of me figure out some of this grammar or how all the sentences interact.

That's why you should do sentence cards instead of core words

Reposting this here because why not?
>japanese people use the kanas to write on their computers
>think this will somehow make the process of learning japanese a bit easier
>they don't space between the words
>impossible to know where one word ends and another one begins
What the actual fuck? Is there method in this madness?

>>18392008
Just stop with the appeals to your dubious authority and argue normally for god's sake. That's all I ask.

>>18392044
I'm still new to Japanese, but what are you referring to?
You type the kana, but then you get to turn them into the appropriate kanji.
It's true that texts that use kana entirely are very hard to read though.

>>18392051
I don't know what you're talking about.

>>18391972
I don't think so-called の-adjective are indeed part of a speech just some words can't be regular な adjectives, sometimes they can. Just as you can say "a man of virtue" and not "a virtue man".

>>18392054
Say that you picked something someone wrote in the internet, and you try to translate it, how do you know where one word ends and another one begins when they don't use space?

>>18392074
Brute force.

>>18392074
It's really obvious in almost every case if you actually knew words.

>>18392074
Ideally you would know the words before and after the word you don't know, I guess.

this might be a dumb question but does つ sound different depending on where its used

>>18392086
The u sound might be droped.

>>18392074
If it's all in kana? It does get a bit hard. If it has kanji? Then it's all a matter of your fluency.

>>18392086
No
>>18392087
Youre wrong

>>18392106
いつか
i-ts-ka

ひとつ
hi-to-tsu or hi-to-ts

Yes, the u sound might indeed be dropped.

>>18391972
That sort of thing is why the best stuff djt has is everything that isn't opinionated attempts at in depth guidance by some random anon, why the guide and everything else has always been there to provide helpful suggestions to proper grammar guides and everything else one needs to get up and running.
I think the current state of the guide could have some of the more opinionated hints toned down but it is still a million times better than any of the autistic zero to hero guides written by random anons who don't know any Japanese.
The biggest problem when autists try to reinvent the wheel and 'teach' others Japanese is that, aside from not knowing much themselves, they always turn it into a purely ego driven thing.

>What we really need is a new guide that removes all links to the sakushitter's crown turd.
It is in the resource guide and not mentioned directly in the main guide.
>Sakubi - A guide that aims to be more precise than Tae Kim while using less academic language than Imabi
The only thing I'd change about this is mentioning that it is made by an anonymous person who may or may not know Japanese. It was probably a compromise to shove it at the bottom of the grammar resources listed in the resource guide. Not have it at all and have the author go on to shit up threads as much as humanly possible in order to get his way or add it as a footnote and call it a day.
The spergs are ultimately harmless overall since their tirades tend to inward focused instead of systematic and outward looking; the difference between chaotic evil and chaotic good.

Is it bad if I don't fully understand when to use は as opposed to が initially?
I feel like I get the general idea, but some sentences still feel very odd.

>>18392112
It's not dropped, it's just very subtle, and not every dialect does that

>>18392120
Phoneticians confirm that the vowel is entirely dropped.

>>18392044
Whatisthepointofspaces?You'retellingmethatyoucan'tunderstandwhatI'mtypingrightnow?

>>18392124
Source

>>18392117
One of the hardest things to figure out as a beginner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCFyD_Q51k&
So how good is he? How can you guys still doubt neo-AJATT after watching this video?

>>18392132
Matt didn't do AJATT or neo-AJATT so no.

>>18392117
"Well fuck whatever I'll learn to differentiate between them from seeing how are they actually used" rule has carried me through most hard-to-understand grammar points I've encountered.

>>18392132
Fuck off, Matt.

>>18392129
I'd post one but my academia.edu login isn't working and google is returning me results from stackoverflow and reddit instead of university sites.

>>18392129
Linguists seem to describe the phenomenon as "devoicing" of the syllable rime but "dropping" when referring to what happens to the vowel itself.

pitch accent and vowel devoicing in japanese - Yoko Hasegawa
hasegawa.berkeley.edu/Accent/0099.pdf

by Y Hasegawa - Cited by 12 - Related articles
to consider Tokyo Japanese as a prototypical accent language. 2. VOWEL DEVOICING. In Japanese, especially in the Tokyo dialect, high vowels normally drop when they occur between voiceless obstruents or in word-final position. (Non-high vowels may also drop, but less frequently and only in fast utterances [7, 8].) ...

>>18392150
What do you study?

>>18392161
Historical Linguistics. Also academia.edu is a non-academic-institution site, its domain was registered before the restriction on .edu domains being for academic institutions was put in place.

>>18392158
>all of japan speaks tokyo dialect

>>18392113
I disagree. The current guide is a bit too neutral in the wrong ways, and opinionated in terms of leaving out important things because the people who made it didn't care about them. Preparation is important, but the overwhelming majority of the text in the guide is dedicated to preparing to read, not what to do when you actually start reading.

>>18392170
>might
Also almost every dialect has its own vowel dropping rules. I would be very surprised to find a living dialect that has no vowel dropping at all, under any circumstances. Surely they would at least drop vowels during speech in a few of the more annoyingly long yamato kotoba that cannot be contracted.

>>18392132
>Look how great AJAAT is! I'm so good at japanese!
>He has been studying for 6 damn years.
I reckon you would get similiar results with every other method as long as you keep at it.

>>18392201
longer

>>18392201
The best method is shitposting in this thread tbqh.

Has anyone ever bought a Kindle version of a book from Amazon JP? I'm tempted but I'm not sure how difficult it would be to set up a Japanese account on my tablet.

>>18392113
The current guide in the OP was not written by an anonymous individual. It was written by a natively bilingual (in English and some variety of German, I believe) Swiss (?) guy who really liked Kill Me Baby. They left DJT because they stopped learning Japanese before they became fluent.

>>18392201
The biggest joke here is that his pronounciation is not even particular good (god bless me for wasting any of my time at all with that video). Anyone could reach that level in a few months with enough practice. But I guess anglos in general just have a hard time with the whole not butchering other people's languages thing. Plus he's a virgin weaboo so I can't really ask much from him.

note to self: never contribute to anonymous group projects

>>18392220
also the toxicity of the community was threatening their academic life
go figure

Katakana are dumb. That is all.

>>18392280
Have you ever considered the possibility that you are the one who is dumb

>>18392280
>uppercase letters are dumb

Imagine someone learning english saying that.

>>18392224
I really don't think someone could reach his level in a few months. A year and a half? Sure.

>>18392117
You don't "use" them. Just get used to the different situations they're used in.

>>18392113
The guide was not, in fact, a collaborative effort, it had a base written by one person and lots of contributions after the fact due to being public domain and posted on Google Docs.

>>18392051
If you want to say something to someone you know, you should say it personally somewhere that has accounts. If you just post it in public, anonymously, nobody's going to know that they're the one being talked to. Normal people don't search their names in the filename field on archives.

>>18391396
It seems to be enabled for me and I never enabled it. I might've just forgotten but who knows.

>>18392280
Nah, they are alright.
You know what's REALLY dumb?
Casual speech.
Fuck that shit.

>>18392306
>You don't "use" them. Just get used to the different situations they're used in.
Not that guy, but what if I want to actually speak or write the language? Is that such a foreign concept?

>>18392311
How retarded do you have to be to find casual speech harder than formal speech? Did you learn Japanese from classroom textbooks?

>>18392317
If you don't already know how to say it correctly then you don't know how to say it at all, even with effort and thought put into it.

>>18392317
Nobody will mind if you get them wrong now and then, you're a filthy foreigner afterall
It might out you as a gaijin if you're trying to pretend like you're native though

>>18392280
Katakana look better than Hiragana. I'd write all Hiragana in Katakana if I could.

>>18392347
Shit taste, hiragana is a e s t h e t i c

>>18392291
That possibility was confirmed when I decided to learn a half logographic half syllabic language spoken only by isolationist pagans on a remote pacific island chain so I could watch their cartoons and jerk off to their comic books.
These suspicions where further confirmed when I decided to seek help in doing so from an online anonymous autistic friend simulator
>>18392294
Except English uppercase letters maintain their pronunciation rules regardless of context. Half the time it seems when authors use katakana they're playing fast and loose with pronunciations because no one ever brought the wonders of the "L" sound to the Japanese people.
>>18392347
Agreed, especially when handwriting. Angular scripts are far easier to write with pens and pencils.

>>18392354
> a e s t h e t i c
That's Katakana you dumb nigger. I think you need glasses.

>>18392347
ツシソン

>>18392362
Say that to my face baka not online, see what happens.

>>18392360
Ahaaaa epic post bro upboated

I just set up anki connection with yomachan, why does {expression} give me the kana reading of 豚 even tho the kanji is clearly there? pls respobd? Rikaisama used to work fine

>>18392466
THE BIG BUTTON IS GREYED OUT EVEN THO MY DECK IS EMPTY

Is 仏蘭西少女～Une fille blanche～ difficult to read?
The previews in vndb had some gay looking alternate readings and vocabulary.

>>18392365
ツシ,ソン!

>>18392515
should be シツソン

>>18392497
Ok the button gets greyed out when the expression is in a different deck too, it doesn't just check the deck you gave it for mining like it said.

>>18392365
Strokes that go down are needles (need to pierce straight down into the fabric).
Strokes that go to the side are eyes.

>ツ tsu - TWO needles in this one
>シ shi - She has two beautiful eyes
>ソ so - Sew with one needle
>ン n - N. Night Shyamalan (anime didn't have rights to his real name) twist ending is he only has one eye

>>18392518
シツ would be tsushi

>>18392555
you have it backwards

>>18392553
I would prefer a sane writing system.

>>18392563
I l
O o 0
q p b d P

>>18392360
>Except English uppercase letters maintain their pronunciation rules regardless of context

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti

>unlike any other language if you want to understand a simple sentence in japanese you saw online can't simply translate it, even if word by word because
Holy shit why is this language so fucked?

>>18392587
every language is like that when you don't know it, actually

How do natives even look up the words they don't know?

>>18392590
They use google.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%E6%AD%A3%E9%85%8D%E3%81%A8%E3%81%84%E3%81%86%E6%84%8F%E5%91%B3&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1

>>18392580
Not him, but truth be told native enlgish speakers should be the last group of people to complain about phonetics. That being said there's no way around the fact that this language is fucked due to the lack so many consonant sounds in their "alphabet". It also makes sense why they have such a strong accent.

>>18392587
You can translate word by word.
Glueing the translations together might or might not give you the correct meaning as with any other language, I don't understand.

>>18392590
Like you do, looking up by radical.

>>18392556
No, you have it backwards

>>18392601
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>>18392601
you're reading シ and ツ wrong in your browser

>>18392589
Bullshit I was able to learn english doing that alone in less than 6 months. Same for spanish, and I could even read big french texts, greek road signs and latin lyrics without ever having touched those before.

>>18392598
The problem is that due to the nature of how words are written in computers, kanas, there isn't really a good way to know where one word ends and another one begins, as often you CAN get sentences where even if you separate the symbols for translation in a way not intended by the writer, you can still get the combination for another word.

Sure that can still happen in some languages if you pick the last letters of one word and couple them with the starting letter of the next word, but on every other language there's space to prevent such problems.

>>18392628
>Bullshit I was able to learn english doing that alone in less than 6 months. Same for spanish, and I could even read big french texts, greek road signs and latin lyrics without ever having touched those before.
congrats, you just listed out a bunch of languages that have almost exactly the same way of dealing with context due to their relatively close relationship to each other

Is vocabulary not words?
I seen a few posts separating words and vocably as learning two different things but arent they the same? Im starting to be confused what vocabulary truly is

>>18392646
Words are fake, vocabulary is real.

>>18392635
You know except greek, which I made sure to put in there because I knew you'd say that. Oh and english has a different structure for it's sentences than romance languages, just another thing you shouldn't ignore.

>>18392650
greek has the same general method of handling context and is as related
notice that i never mentioned sentence structure

>>18392648
Then what does mean to learn vocab?
What dose it mean to learn words?

>>18392518
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>>18392626
Holy shit, I'm stupid.

>>18392669
Words are segments of a sentence, but you can never really be sure what the right way to split a sentence up into words is.

Vocabulary is things that have meanings in isolation, that you can say on their own like a name, that you can list and define.

Learning words means learning vocabulary.

>>18392502
No, but it's too long and tedious.

>>18392653
The way you deal with context is part of the structure of the language. So yes you did.

>>18392686
you're confusing sentence structure for some kind of paradigmatic pragmatics or something
context is about what words are represented in what ways, and all the languages you listed learning have definite articles or some other way to mark definiteness vs indefiniteness, japanese does not

I have a dumb beginner question.
So i know that i should learn hiragana first and I got this app that will teach them.. But i see that, along with the basic 46 "monograph" hiragana, it also has "diacritic" and "diagraph" ones.
Should I learn those as well along with the basic 46 before I move on? It has them listed for katakana as well.
Sorry for asking such a basic question here, I oddly have not seen info on learning "diacritic" or "diagraph" kana mentioned in any of the beginner guides ive seen, so im not sure if its an assumed thing that goes along with learning kana or if this app is just an outlier in regards to listing them.
Thanks!

>>18392761
Honestly you don't really need to study the diacritic and diagraph ones. If you read about what adding the two little lines or the little circle to a kana does, you'll be fine.

>>18392761
Yes? Really though, just spend an hour or two grinding realkana and you'll be good to go forever.

>>18392790
djt kana has replaced real kana because of malicious ads

>>18392580
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti
That has nothing to do with the case of the letters. "GHOTI" would be pronounced the same as "ghoti".

What's the most efficient way of reading with ITHVNR?

>>18392928
Katakana and hiragana are pronounced the same when used in the same scenario, just like upper and lower case letters.

>>18392932
There should be stuff in the guide about this.

A browser with rikai based add on.
An add on that automatically pastes things from clipboard into your browser.
One of the .html files which will format it all nicely.

>>18393028
Rikai is similar shit can't correctly parse words so you should do it manually anyway.

What's the difference between 貸す and 貸し出す ?

>>18393177
lend
lend out

>>18393171
Answer honestly: what do you get out of shitposting?

Has anyone got that chart image that shows word coverage % by how far into core6k?

>>18393344
I would also appreciate this

>>18393344
One of these?
http://wiki.wareya.moe/Stats
https://djtguide.neocities.org/assets/res/vocab_count.png

Do you guys usually consider a card "failed" if you misremember the pronunciation slightly? Like recalling 冬　as ふよ instead of ふゆ?
Personally I hit again, I wonder if I should be so hard on myself?

>>18393578
Yes. If it's not right, it's wrong. That's what it boils down to for me.

>>18393578
You wouldn't doing yourself any favors by cheating yourself out of actually learning the words.

>>18393578
it doesn't actually matter, just do pick a way of thinking about it and move on in learning

>Ｊａ。トランクを持っての移動はどうしても目立つ…だとすれば、フラウは何をするか予想がつきます
I can feel that トランクを持つ移動 wouldn't work so well here (though maybe that's only because he didn't use it ) but can anyone explain or give some links so I can understand why he used the て form + の?
I remember asking a very similar question when I was reading real imouto and I searched that topic a bit but didn't find anything helpful that'd make the distinction

>>18391041
My melanin-enriched brother

>do anki thinking that I need to learn the readings for kanji
>DJT tells me that this is useless and to learn that through vocab

well that helps alot, much faster now

Is is especially odd to be able to get words in Anki but in actual reading forget them sometimes? I'm finding some words I just completely forget, will this improve as I continue reading?

>>18393603
relative clauses can attract the head noun into just about any argument of the verb (look up valency) but ての is more abstract than that and refers to the verbal phrase as an idea or at least less specific to the head noun

>>18393625
it would be the other way around unless you're a beginner. if you're not a beginner and this is happening it's because you don't read enough or you're memorizing words you're not ready to learn yet

>>18393625
It's not really odd, happened to me often too. You just get used to seeing the words in a specific anki environment. When you start reading, you will see the words in a completely different environment which makes you less likely to successfully recognize them in the beginning. When you see a word in your anki reviews, you know that you've seen the word before and that you should know it, but in the wild, you can't just check if the word you came across was already covered in anki, so if you don't know the word extremely well, you'll often just think that you've never seen it before. Until you look it up and you realize that you knew it all along. So, yeah, the best way to get used to recognizing words in a different environment is just reading. Also remember to ditch your pure vocab anki decks eventually. I deleted my core10k and V2K decks at around 3 months into my studying and have been doing great since. Vocab decks should only be used to gain some basic vocab so you can more easily jump into native media

>>18392761
The fact that many quiz apps include every combination of voicing marks and digraphs as individual items has always blown my mind. The patterns are incredibly regular, you need very little practice to become proficient at that part. Just read an overview of what they do. The only thing you might need to "practice" is h + ゜ = p, and h + ゛ = b. You might also need to find a decent explanation of what small っ actually sounds like. Everything else is very simple.

>>18393667
>Also remember to ditch your pure vocab anki decks eventually.
Is this another "use sentence cards" post? There sure are a lot of those lately.

どうしてがんばらなくちゃいけないの

あなたががんばっているかどうか

わかるのはあなたではないのかもしれない

どうしてはたらかなくちゃいけないの

あなたがはたらいているかどうか

わかるのはあなたではないのかもしれない

どうしていきなくちゃいけないの

あなたがいきているのかどうか

きめるのはあなたではないのかもしれない

>when you combine the kanji for "female" and "child" together, you get a kanji that means "fond" or "pleasing"
kek