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Alyssa scene when

>75% chance of getting shit
>25% chance of silvia
should i even bother

For the record, the reason people don't discuss Otogi Frontier
Is because it's shit

>>18364185

I don't have any of those blacks, and I like all of them so this works out well for me.

>Ivy thread
Now we're talkin'.

>Hannies have 100 MR
It was a given but I'm still smiling like a retard. I love when they include stuff like this.

Does Sill have an h-scene? Also I want Valentines Alice so fucking bad.

So what did Alice and Rino get?

I did the last of my rolling for the 150 card on the alice gacha planning to use my pity black on the pickup for Silvia or Sylseth but I got ambushed by Sarah with like 3 rolls to go...

I wanted her so I'm happy but also conflicted...

Rate up is a lie.

>>18364576
It really is. Where is my fucking Rino?
>inb4 "but you already got her haha!"

>tfw your waifu loves you back
Its a great feeling.

First and only roll in this gacha. Its good to know that she loves me.

>>18364588
Right there
She's between male healer man and enchanter girl, how could you forget that you rolled her? She's just a clumsy girl and forgot her valentines attire so you'll have to forgive her.

>>18364598
Now the question is, does her skill overlap with Lapis or Uzume. If she does than into the barracks she goes.

>>18364604
I have neither so she'll be taking that job for herself.

What does Valentine Alice do?

Should I keep going for Rino? Feels like I used up all my luck right here.

>>18364635
When her skill is on she buffs the prince's Atk and Def by 25%. Her skill also buffs all allies and gradually heals them as well.
She's pretty fucking nice. Then again. It's Alice.

>>18364665
And whats Rino's?

Wow those aw2 paths are really shitty for Hakunokami, at least she gets 20 range in one of them

>>18364604
>>18364610
I just tested it, Rino's buff is type C, meaning it stacks with Lapis and Uzume but not Teeny/Ibuki and the like.

>>18364667
her skill buffs everyone's attack by 1.2 except herself.
When AW'd her attack becomes true damage all those within range get buffed by 1.3
With her AW ability being her AOE x1.3

>>18364589
>those milk producing tits

25th (or so) for I WANT TO PULL THIS LITTLE CUTE FUCKMUNCH.

I NEED HER.

I'm saving my SCs for next week.

Loli Shizuka and Kanami appeared in the collab mission so I bet there's going to be a collab gatcha next week.

>>18364733
I wouldn't "bet" anything on it, but yeah I'm doing the same. Alice seems pretty bad (not that I would be able to roll her) and the pick up has too high chance of shit to be worth it.

>>18364509
This is why I have Makina

>>18364738
Shizuka and Kanami got stuck in the Aigis world along with Sill.

There's no way these two doesn't appear as a unit while Sill does. I think they'll be plat gatcha units next week along with a black rance.

>>18364763
>male units

>>18364768
Finally a unit to dump all these male affection items on.

>>18364768
>underestimating Rance

>>18364777
>ever wanting dick in your party

>>18364763

Rance isn't gonna appear, they went with noncommital tentacles for Sill's scene.

>>18364786
Post the hscene.

>>18364786

Forgot muh links
https://i.imgur.com/bEzNPSi.png
https://i.imgur.com/5oRChoJ.png

I hope AliceSoft does Grace 2AW already.

>>18364786
Would be funny if Rance has scenes like a female character. And it turns out to him doing Sill.

>>18364781
He does not have level cap

INTERESTING.
It takes a level 99 AW Angelline TEN hits to kill a basic hanny, while a freaking bronze soldier Dirk can kill it in under 4 hits.

>>18364821

Hannys have 100% innate magic resistance

>>18364821
>Hannies are usually wrongly believed to be a very weak race, but this is far from true. Just like humans, the strength of Hannies vary a lot depending on the individual potential of each Hanny, and they need to go through training and experience in the battlefield to become powerful fighters.

>The most notorious abilities of the Haniwa are their unique skill, the Hanny Flash, and their Absolute Magic Resistance. These two abilities are inherent in all the Hannies from the moment they are born, with no exceptions. The Hanny Flash is a fast magical attack capable of ignoring the enemy's defenses, while the Absolute Magical Resistance makes Hannies completely immune to all magical attacks, no matter how powerful. These abilities make Hannies naturally decent fighters and the average Hanny is actually stronger than the average human thanks to these. However, their physical strength, endurance, speed or magic power still highly depends on the training and potential of each Hanny. An average Hanny that hasn't gone through any proper training willl look like a joke to an adventurer that is used to fighting monsters. They usually fight by using their iconic Hanny Flash, and wielding a Trident to stab their opponents.

>There are many different types of Hannies that make it easier to determine the potential they possess for battle, going from extremely weak creatures not stronger than a Squidman, to absurdly powerful entities that could rival with the most powerful creatures in the world. Feral S Hannies are noted for being among the strongest monsters in the world, and some consider the Hanny King, leader and most powerful member of the race, the most powerful living being in The Continent after the Demon King, although there are certain other creatures that can match its strength, like the abnormal Urunsel.

For the Rance enthusiasts.

Sill
http://assets.millennium-war.net/5f0e6d912f532a97aa845a1e197d8e650a36b23e/da96d6b17ce1bc70684bf657127177e6

Sill HCG
http://assets.millennium-war.net/5f0e6d912f532a97aa845a1e197d8e650a36b23e/ff82dae2fc29432ac510fcf7fe893e11
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Sill scene text
https://pastebin.com/QACbDb5w

BGM1 (mp3/ogg)
http://assets.millennium-war.net/5f0e6d912f532a97aa845a1e197d8e650a36b23e/425de3c6ab639fe23edec68be84342f6
http://assets.millennium-war.net/5f0e6d912f532a97aa845a1e197d8e650a36b23e/520a2d3a7373f9b67b85c3813e761d17

BGM2
http://assets.millennium-war.net/5f0e6d912f532a97aa845a1e197d8e650a36b23e/92115acc45f6ef096436ddde62bc7f95
http://assets.millennium-war.net/5f0e6d912f532a97aa845a1e197d8e650a36b23e/05327b4a95e3d30cd2c1b51849831c85

>>18364821
I'm a little sad that Hannies aren't completely immune to magic and are affected by MR reductions and such but it can't be helped.

>>18364763
>Mage and Ninja
zz

Dragon Shaman AW2
http://assets.millennium-war.net/5f0e6d912f532a97aa845a1e197d8e650a36b23e/b6fda045eb6ec55447bf8471e5438cd0
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http://assets.millennium-war.net/5f0e6d912f532a97aa845a1e197d8e650a36b23e/6fd49334af55f3b9268e0355924f7f3a
http://assets.millennium-war.net/5f0e6d912f532a97aa845a1e197d8e650a36b23e/29406a6d999d2da53e55d5443572f8c5


エルダードラゴンシャーマン
+Stats (~500HP/50ATK/40DEF), While in team, dragons +10MR (Riders inc.), +20 range
Echidna

極神竜巫女
+Stats (~1500HP, 150ATK/DEF), ATK CD -10frames
Rubinas

>>18364865
エルダードラゴンシャーマン is the way to go

>>18364843
>the princes watches both Sill masturbating and Sill getting tentacle raped, no rance in sight, they agree to keep it a secret
So this is the power of the NTR crowd.

>>18364861
>mage
Shizuka will probably get some new class like a mage-equivalent of Swordmasters so she can WHITE DESTRUCTION BEAM in addition to casting regular magic attacks.
Meanwhile Kanami will be useless.

>>18364865
>choice between katakana chuuni or kanji chuuni
How can life always find new ways to challenge me?

>>18364874
Range is for self if that wasn't clear.

>>18364877
>Kanami useless
While she's avarage or mediocre in most areas, she's actually incredibly fast and only the fastest humans in the world can catch her(mostly top tier ninjas)

So this would make her platinum rarity Saki

>>18364865
Why does her tail turn into hair midway

>>18364904
She is not that fast. It's just that she tend to be the only ninja or similar in your party in most games, make her the fastest unit you tend to get.

>been holding onto my poverty black roll for a month now
God damn it release something good.

>>18364924
Alice is op

>>18364915
Well, according to lore she is just that fast

New Alice has permanent 1.5x attack up to self as her skill, during skill use she increases her and prince's attack/def by 25%. Also KoF has that 1.3x attack 100% chance during skill use.

>>18364934

Wut, when Inukai evaluates her in Sengoku, he comes to the conclusion that if she works hard her whole life, she might reach the rank of chuunin. She's constantly outclassed by other spy groups like the Dark Wings of Helman.

>>18364940
Wow it's shit

I used to play this game until I got banned for using CE years ago, how is the game now?
Is it worth starting over?

>>18364944
Level of her Ninja skill has nothing to do with her speed

>>18364934
Where is it mentioned in the lore that she is faster than a normal ninja? In 03, she has the same skill (the speed stat for that game) growth than Maris, and loses to Sioux and Necai. On Quest her stats are just the base ranger stats with not bonus to speed or evade. In 9 she has less speed and movement than the other rangers.

>>18364940
Am I supposed to be impressed? She's like a Sarah who can't tank and doesn't reduce cost.

>>18364940
The 100% uptime really isn't that impressive outside of afk when normal Alice only has like 18secs of downtime with a 2AW Aisha and basically does everything better apart from the price buff part which isn't really enough to justify her in manual runs desu.

>>18364877
Since they seem to be post 9/Rance X versions Kanami would actually be very competent. She managed to beat Tillday, a royal guard commander, one on one in her route. Tillday is possibly the strongest woman in Leazas.

>>18364962
That was in Sengoku too

>>18364964
The prince buff doesn't even stack with Sarah. It's shit.

>>18364865
Post Rino & Alice's H-scenes please

How would a character with a lv 3 skill in the Ranceverse translate to Aigis? Instant Black Narsus-broken tier?

Speaking of NTR collabs, Senpro put the Red Corruption collab mission back on revival to commemorate Red Corruption's closing.

So if any of you guys wanted to see Caroline, Red Corruption's main heroine, getting fucked by Senpro's protag, now's your chance.

>>18365050
Prince probably has conversation 3. I mean, he can convince people to join him by nodding and staring intently at their general direction.

Also, I just realized something: the dark lord barrier specifically works on people in the Rance setting. Prince and his squad should be completely unaffected by it, there's no reason not to have a Kayblis advent.

Who did the art for Sill? Looks pretty good.

>>18365106
>Kayblis advent that involves fighting a bunch of Dark Lords on the same map
Sounds fun as fuck.

>Babolat has a fuckton of HP but instantly dies while crawling to your base if you have any tacticians in your party

Sitting on this pity timer for a while now, my wife was loyal and kind.

Is there a way for kamihime to stop being so laggy?

>>18365135
Play on chrome and hope the latest update didn't make the game nigh unplayable

>>18365206
welp, I am on chrome.

>>18365084
Thank you anon. I would have totally missed it, again. Although I'm not sure if I can even get her since I'm fresh out of the tutorial phase basically.

>>18365135
>>18365206
I fixed it by disabling hardware acceleration in chrome.

>>18365050
A level 3 would be able to solo majin advents..

Level 2 is generally on par with some of the better units. Rance would be a more offensive focused AW Prince for example. Rick would be the dark knight. Level 2 for physical fighters isn't really all that significant.
But it gets really screwy when mages come into play.
Shizuka would blow every magic unit in aigis out of the water and she's only a level 2. Not even the strongest level 2 mage. Gandhi would be a unholy abomination of a unit and he's still just a level 2 mage who decided to become a muscle wizard.

>>18365228
I want to say that improves things but it's still really bad. I hope Flower knight girl is better in this regard.

>>18365244
FKG doesn't lag for me, even in firefox.

>>18365135

Did you switch the picture quality from hi-def to standard in the settings? It makes a huge difference

>>18365224
It's just a bunch 1 AP story-only no battle missions. After you've read all of it you get rewarded with a Caroline in your gift-box. You don't need to grind or anything, you can just go direct to it after you finished the tutorial.

There's also a collab gatcha that is getting revived tomorrow, but you can safely skip it since the Red Corruption heroine you can get from it isn't NTR.

>>18365418
Yeah I noticed, I'm going through it right now and the few enemies between the text only events just explode in one hit.
I can't thank you enough.

>>18365418
Did red corruption unlock all H scenes or all dailies plus near freepremium gacha rolls when it died?

>>18365231
Miracle would be a sight to behold.
I don't even want to think about Gandhi, Jesus Christ.

>>18365231
You're cutting Aigis units a bit too short, the likes of Hakunokami and Rakshasa are practically gods story-wise and should easily be level 80+ in the Rance setting.

Aigis-majin are generally more powerful than Rance-majin too, barring the oldest few. Many of the Rance majin can be ganked by humans that have the means to pierce their barrier, while Aigis majin are fought with actual armies and the demonic ones just regenerate off the damage afterwards. Wasn't it stated somewhere that demons in Aigis can't be killed permanently because their souls just slink off to Makai like Pacman ghosts after their bodies are destroyed?

Is it just me, or is Aigis running like shit in Chrome now? Did the retard Chrome devs fuck everything up again?

>>18365648
Well, the problem with stuff like Hakunokami and Rakshasa is, Rance also has a bunch like that.
Bringing out the level 3's, there's two immortals. Hunty and Ho Raga. Both extraordinarily powerful level 3 mages, Hunty being able to rip space and time to create a dimension where time doesn't exist and can freely travel through it to appear to instantly teleport, with the time spent in that dimension hitting the user upon exiting, but she cannot age.
Ho Raga is pretty much an actual god, being given absolute knowledge by an actual god, it is as it sounds. He knows absolutely everything, to the point where he loses a reason to exist and just sits in his tower all day every day until someone comes to visit him. The god actually waited a bit and let him grow old before giving him immortality just to fuck with him more, so he's not as absurdly powerful as other level 3 mages.

For the barriers, only three weapons can pierce the barrier. Chaos, Nikkou, and Escude. The first two were party members with Ho Raga when the god granted them wishes and now they're swords. Chaos will take over anyone who wields him unless they have a strong will. Escude is part of the hero system created by that very same god that requires 30% of humanity dead to pierce the barrier on dark lords, and 50% to actually stand a chance against the demon king.
So it's pretty rare to be able to hurt dark lords.

Dark lords also have a similar immortality system. When a dark lord is killed they turn into a blood soul. After a handful of years that blood soul will resurrect the dark lord, with the only way of destroying a blood soul being the demon king absorbing it, although it can be sealed with very powerful magic to prevent resurrection, that seal only prevents the automatic resurrection over time, not revival through other means. Also should a dark lords blood soul be destroyed it frees up a slot for the demon king to create a new dark lord, being simple as feeding the target some of their blood and they will be forced to obey.

the same god created that system, by the way.
he's a dick that just wants everyone to suffer.

>>18365777
>he's a dick that just wants everyone to suffer
I thought he was just obliged to create an entertaining world for the whale, who is sort of implied to be the players. He's just a game designer doing his job, which is why the demons have checks to prevent them from winning and creating a constant torture carnival and the player race has checks to prevent them from winning and creating a boring farmland with no conflict. And hey, you can just nom the blood soul to permanently kill a majin, as long as you can prevent it from taking over your body afterwards.

There is also a hard cap of 24 majin and 1 demon lord in Rance, while Aigis has at least the 72 Lemegeton demons, majin-level stragglers like Shuten, endgame monsters like Leviathan, and the setting's own demon lord to deal with. I'd say the main difference is tone: almost nobody dies in Aigis, even against things that should be able to murderfuck entire cities, but when a Rance character has the power to really wreck shit, you're probably going to see that power in action.

I mean, if something like Amon or Furfur were in the Rance setting, they would be frying people by the hundreds instead of just sitting in a cave and spooking out some salamanders.

>>18365468
There's a month long daily ranking event that gives some points which you can use to roll on a special gacha that has a 60% 5* rate.

To be honest I wish they just unlocked the h-scenes outright like valkyrie saga.

So sandniggers are a race in Aigis, how long until they tag notJapan people as a race too?
I'm surprised the recent spurt of new youkai and Chinese vampires didn't give us a single unit with a passive to boost eastern country units like Nepthys and AW Prince did for desertians

>>18365865
Why is it surprising? Of course there's gonna be some sort of new sacred treasure for it. Japs literally kinda have that in real life.

Axe at least 50k gold off awakening costs onegai

>>18365418
>>18365084
Do you know anything about the RC - Doukyuusei collab? I mean it's THE infamous Doukyuusei. I just downloaded it and they even made Saimon "I introduced the eroge world to NTR" Tamaki selectable as heroine. Although it's taking forever to start.

Daily reminder.

RATE UP IS A LIE.

DO ¡NOT! PULL FROM THIS GACHA!.

>>18366095
Sorry, I don't even know there's a RC - Doukyuusei collab.

>>18366149
>dark rate up on DMM
>pull light SSR eidolons and water SSR himes
>light rate up on DMM
>pull water SSRs
>thunder rate up on DMM
>pull fire SSRs
but why though

>>18366189
Because gacha games are bitches to begin with.

>>18366149
>Rolling
You might get them
>Not rolling
0%

Nutaku still didn't patch the new translation?

>Memento prepared chocolate skeletons

Why is she so best waifu?

>>18365011
Douzo.
http://assets.millennium-war.net/36445dc56c2257efe6a4e54af6aa6925d333e1e0/44c2000a3063e05287fa2201c2a09058
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>>18366485
Rip Nutaku FKG?

>>18366485
Why would they? The times it has happened, it gets implemented on week 2.

>>18366631
Cheers.
Rino's scenes are pretty hot especially with the handholding on the second one.
My fondness for paizuri and Alice being one of the girls I dick picked with my rank ticket kinda makes me sad I'm not rolling for her.

So how exactly do you use a summoner in a team anyway?

I know that Rino has a 30% buff for everyone in range and big girl numbers but summoners dont attack unless their skill is up so how would you use them?

when the hell is the next imperial gacha

>>18366824
Press the skill button when necesary...or get gold Rino and make her skill infinite.

>>18366542
She is and her smile warms my heart.
I like to use her more than Agnese and Metus desu
It's weird given that event she doesn't get valentine treatment and hopefully there is in the future (if Aigis is still not ded).

>>18366542
I would have rolled for her
I'm really sad that I started after her event and I'm going to have to wait eons for a revival. Pretty much started after all the event girls I wanted had their events or revival and none of the event girls since I started push my buttons except maybe Paula and that bestiality druid I forgot the name of.

>>18366631
>Rino with heart pupils
L-Lewd

>>18366705
I hope you have Freddy too.
If only I have 3rd black ticket I would've picked Alice too

>>18366485
>>18366659
They won't die yet, but it seems to me that they're doing the bare minimum for the game's upkeep, and sometimes not even that. This is pretty damning because, at this point in FKG's history, the DMM team was implementing something like 16 sets of character quests, eight new bloomed characters (with their quest updates and H-scenes), two sets of nation dailies and story map updates, and one set each of ability challenge maps, whale maps and new story maps each month, all of which required new storylines to be written by a dedicated scenario team. If they can't keep up with the pace of updates now, they will never catch up.

They could, of course, invest some of their self-professed million-dollar funds to hire more translators and programmers, but the fact that they aren't doing this probably means they're giving FKG the Aigis treatment: Keep the game going with minimal effort as long as they can, and then close it abruptly with a "so we took a popular game and removed everything that made it popular out of sheer greed, but it's the players' fault for not paying us enough for the resulting pile of shit!" excuse. I hope I'm proven wrong in this and they are/will be making a greater effort to bring out new content, because I do like FKG a lot.

>>18366485
>>18366659
>>18366631
They won't die yet, but it seems to me that they're doing the bare minimum for the game's upkeep, and sometimes not even that. This is pretty damning because, at this point in FKG's history, the DMM team was implementing something like 16 sets of character quests, eight new bloomed characters (with their quest updates and H-scenes), two sets of nation dailies and story map updates, and one set each of ability challenge maps, whale maps and new story maps each month, all of which required new storylines to be written by a dedicated scenario team. If they can't keep up with the pace of updates now, they will never catch up.

They could, of course, invest some of their self-professed million-dollar funds to hire more translators and programmers, but the fact that they aren't doing this probably means they're giving FKG the Aigis treatment: Keep the game going with minimal effort as long as they can, and then close it abruptly with a "so we took a popular game and removed everything that made it popular out of sheer greed, but it's the players' fault for not paying us enough for the resulting pile of shit!" excuse. I hope I'm proven wrong in this and they are/will be making a greater effort to bring out new content, because I do like FKG a lot.

How many 10-rolls can I get as a starter from FKG story and quests?

>>18366824
Honestly, you don't. They're the magic version of angels, which is to say they're just a gimmick class that doesn't even have the level of secondary utility that angels do (since those are at least good lightning rods).

Gold Rino's SAW gives her infinite summon at the cost of a ridiculous initial timer and Farne can pop her skill off immediately with a secondary healing effect, so those are really the only two worth using. And Rino is pretty much only worth using in subjugations due to the timer.

>>18366900
Just believe anon.
I also missed her first revival but my patience has rewarded with her second revival.

>>18366933
Valentines rino seems to be pretty good though with that massive amount of true damage AOE and 30% attack buff to everyone in range but I sort of struggle seeing where would I put her on a map.

>Those are the only two worth using
Arent they two out of three summoners anyway? With the third being a free event girl.

The sheer level of laziness in these collabs still appalls me. Aegis II - Complete Refurbish when?

>>18366981
After princess AW2

>>18366959
Good point. I suppose I should say "Those two are barely worth using."

The new Rino seems like she might be an okay asset, but I think you'll have to choose damage with a potential attack boost to others or attack boost to others with potential damage, since it's hard to line up her skill use for both at the same time.

>>18366923
This is a rational strategy if, as we suspect, Nutaku has decided to switch its focus entirely to western games.

Starting FKG and this girl sort of looks like a younger and flatter aigis Cornelia, she's pretty cute.

>>18366931
There's a total of 500 or so flower stones to be gained there (230 from story, 200 from nation maps, 50 from dailies, plus the stamp card and so on), but you definitely won't be able to get all of these in short order. Maybe 4 11x rolls in a couple weeks?

I have no clue what the beginner log-in bonus looks like nowadays, so that could contribute too, as would the ongoing 2 flower stones/day campaign.

>>18367027
She's more or less the main character of the story maps, and has a chapter in the prequel manga that you may want to check. There's quite a large population of players who want a 5* version of her, too.

Cornelia's artist is likely to have done a couple other girls (Maiden Lily and Star Lily) for FKG, too.

>>18366923
I doubt FKG is gonna die. Unlike Aigis they have whale-type stuff, so they probably make plenty money from the nutaku gold only rolls.

>>18367060
>She's more or less the main character of the story maps, and has a chapter in the prequel manga that you may want to check.

Is it translated? And where do I read it?

She's definitely super cute and would love to roll for her. Surprised she's the main character but doesnt have multiple higher rarity versions like most other games.

The awakening art for the event oni is pretty cute. Slightly more compelled to grind the event but need to figure out how to best farm it with 14 max stamina.

I'm only at 200 beans. What stage has everyone else been running?

>>18367079
Not translated.

http://comic-clear.jp/comic.aspx?c=56

>>18367079
Not translated.

https://www.comic-clear.jp/comic.aspx?c=56

>>18367060
FKG is pretty great with the cute girls and lore stuff, but it's pretty daunting to get (or get back into it, with the number of things to do.

An app version would be nice too.

>>18367027
The cutest Silver. Hope she wins her local poll next year.

>>18367027
This artist has a thing for blondes with short twin-tails bound by black ribbons.

How good is Palfy as a unit? Her SAW looks like it turns her into a monster tank.

>>18367120
Yeah, that's the flip side to FKG devs' love of constantly improving their game. I'm hoping for a new world guide to clarify the lore too, some of it is actually found only in there (like Ghost Weed and Poinsettia being cousins, which I only found mentioned as an off-hand comment on the 2ch blog - makes sense, though, since both plants are euphorbias).

I really like how they work flower trivia into the game though, my favorite tidbit about FKG is how every knight introduced for the fireworks event represents a night-blooming flower (Mirabilis, Night Phlox, Evening Primrose and Royal Water Lily). Also, this one is probably a coincidence, but all flowers introduced in the eating contest event are native to North America.

>>18367141
Her SAW does turn her into a monster tank, she's recommended if you don't have any of the black supertanks. She also benefits considerably from her 2AW (as it gives her extra MR, which her SAW then doubles) and can apparently be used to bypass Glasya-Labolas' multi-fireball attack: taunt effects mess with its targeting, so only Palfy gets a fireball tossed to her, leaving your other units alone.

But keep in mind that she's fundamentally a defensive unit, so her own fireballs are mostly for show, although the relatively fast swing speed of mage armors means that she can do okay damage to groups.

>Aigis fucks up PC on Chrome
>Refuses to load on Firefox
>menus stop responding on Iron
WHAT THE FUCK NOW?

>>18367120
Yeah, that's the flip side to FKG devs' love of constantly improving their game. I'm hoping for a new world guide to clarify the lore too, some of it is actually found only in there (like Ghost Weed and Poinsettia being cousins, which I only found mentioned as an off-hand comment on the 2ch blog - makes sense, though, since both plants are euphorbias).

I really like how they work flower trivia into the game though, my favorite tidbit about FKG is how every knight introduced for the fireworks event represents a night-blooming flower (Mirabilis, Night Phlox, Evening Primrose and Royal Water Lily). Also, this one is probably a coincidence, but three out of four flowers introduced in the eating contest event are native to North America.

Had to delete the previous post, because I just realized that Laurentia is Australian. Damn these Englishmen and their love of naming new lands after the old, I thought New South Wales was somewhere in the US.

>>18367141
Her SAW does turn her into a monster tank, she's recommended if you don't have any of the black supertanks. She also benefits considerably from her 2AW (as it gives her extra MR, which her SAW then doubles) and can apparently be used to bypass Glasya-Labolas' multi-fireball attack: taunt effects mess with its targeting, so only Palfy gets a fireball tossed to her, leaving your other units alone.

But keep in mind that she's fundamentally a defensive unit, so her own fireballs are mostly for show, although the relatively fast swing speed of mage armors means that she can do okay damage to groups.

>>18367232
Use mobile or disable hardware acceleration for chrome.

>>18367232
Chromium?

>>18367245
Anon I just wanna say it's really fucking cute seeing you fuck up and delete your posts over and over.

>>18367232
Replace your toaster.
No seriously. I have a 3rd gen Intel and play with hardware-accelerated chrome and it's still fine.
Either that or play on mobile.

>>18367255
>Replace your toaster.
Nice idea.
Want my PayPal, so you can help me out with that one?

Can Aigis die already?

>>18367268
This desu. Aigis needs to either die or fuck off and make its own general.

>>18367255
>No seriously. I have a 3rd gen Intel and play with hardware-accelerated chrome and it's still fine.
Funny how I have the same and it's completely unplayable.

>>18367285
Just play on your phone

The app runs super smooth on my ancient 4yr old phone and on my big tablet where all the screen space makes everything so much nicer and the touch stuff makes my reactions faster.

>>18367282
This so much. It's large enough to get its own general on /vg/. We need a split.

>>18367245
>this one is probably a coincidence, but all flowers introduced in the eating contest event are native to North America.
>coincidence
The word you're looking for is stereotype. Maybe not even that since the US is the most obese nation in the world that isn't some tiny-ass country or island.

>>18367310
>>18367282
Shut up /mbgg/, go enjoy your 4chan dollars in that new kamige

>>18367317
NONONONONO
DELETE THIS

>>18367310
>get its own general on /vg/
I would like to see it, not only to see how much it last there, but to see how much this general last here without aigis, living only with FKG, KHP and the ocasional other games.

>>18367263
Tough luck. I need my neetbux to buy a new house.

>>18367282
After I get my titty angel and St Bodhisattva

>>18367285
Kamihime lags on my disabled hardware chrome so I have to do the opposite and too lazy to switch back to play Aigis.

>>18367338
Just download Nox and the kamihime app

>>18367340
Does that actually work? Kamihime's app doesn't work on my phone after I rooted it.

>>18367373
It works, same for aigis and the good thing is that it uses way less resources than the web one.

>>18367373
Nox have an option to make rooted or unrooted, even fate go works there and it is know to be the most annoying thing to run in emus.

>>18367255
I have a 7th gen i7 with 16gb of ram and it still almost unplayable

>Login somehow pushes me from 35 stones to 57
>Roll the stones for my second ten roll ever

These two girls are cute as fuck. So far it seems like a fun journey into a new game and I hope that mobile app thing comes soon.

>>18367426
>>18367338
Just play it on your phone. The aigis phone app runs incredibly smooth.

>>18367449
>both Helios in one roll

I am half-jelly.

Got the original Helio on Nutaku, but yukata Helio on DMM.

>>18367426
Maybe because of graphic card?
I have GTX 1050ti and it's nothing special really.

>>18367330
The better question is why the cuck spergs that shit on the thread when their game released on nutaku didn't make their own /vg/ general. Guess shitty clones that die out in popularity in a week don't warrant it any more but it would be nice to quarantine any more hot garbage that comes out of nutaku.

>>18367426
Aigis works fine on IE and Edge for me. Firefox it has never worked well.

>>18367477
They're super cute and definitely motivates me to continue playing.

>Try to find the button in the shop to expand my character inventory
>End up on the screen to select a 5* with a ticket I apparently had in my inventory

But apparently its going to take me a bit to learn how to navigate its UI. Do these tickets expire?

Anna in Rance when?

>>18367492
Can you say that again but in human language

benis

>>18367611
She's pretty nice. You can use her as a throwaway low cost mage that heals when there's no enemies.

>>18367652
>lowcost mage
>has pretty much the same cost as mages

>>18367492
Parempi kysymys on, miksi aisuri burgerit, jotka paskovat lankaan, kun heidän pelinsä julkaistiin nutakussa, eivät tehneet omaa lankaa \vg\ yleiseen. Arvaten paskat kloonit, jotka kuolevat suosiossa viikossa eivät tarvitse sitä enää, mutta olisi kiva karantenisoida kuuma roska, mitä yulee nutakusta

translated to finland by apustaja

>>18367027
Remember what I said about that artist' art being more adapted to FKG than Aigis? Big proof right there.

>>18367652
Dark priest are regarded as a bad class...she does the same, cost more and have less att to put it on use. No wonder she is given for free without real effort.

Excuse me for being slow but
>veteran exp boost does not stack with the same class boost
Why does this shit have to be so annoying.

Sure people who have been playing this for over 2 years would see no problem since they have basically unlimited resources but I'm not at that point yet.

>>18367726
She does not have aw

>>18367678
Not really, even without any cost reduction she has lower cost compared to a plat mage, which have mincost 31.

Sill is either 25 or 27 at mincost, which makes her among one of the cheapest standard AoE ranged units.

>>18367726
She's tokenized by default, you don't lose a star if you got her killed so she's perfect as a frontline mage. As a bonus she even heals herself when there's no enemies further increasing her survivability. You can deploy her on some far-off place alone.

Dark Priests are shit because they're single target with shit attack speed.

>>18367742
What's the problem? did you expect that a veteran unit could give you the veteran's bonus and class bonus on top hence making plat armors irrelevant?

>>18367758
I don't see how 235 + 30 + 30 exp can outpace 1000 exp.

>>18367757
>She's tokenized by default
Not wasting one spot in my team for a subpar meme unit that can't even do her job fine.

>>18367767
SAME
I already kill her from my barack

>>18367765
How many plat cans can you get from a mission that will never go away?, you can keep repeating the jungle maps and get tons of those units, +30 exp on top is a very huge bonus for a unit that can be gotten infinitely and you want that bonus to be +60, whats next? do you want a story map to give you Musica as a drop any time you want? or better yet, get SCs every time you auto complete a map?.

>>18367813
>How many plat cans can you get from a mission that will never go away?
1 for around 4 (or 2 for 8) hours worth of resources that I can stack with multipliers for 8000 total exp.
Versus farming orc hero for 3 and a half hours worth of resources for the chance of 4 265 exp units that only outpace a plat armor when used all 4 at once leaving no room for fairy multipliers and also being nearly 7 times less cost effective in a gold-to-exp ratio?

Please never reply to me again if all you're gonna do is be an actually retarded person.

>>18367836
Not him, but you didn't even took into account the stamina, only charisma, and stamina is way more costly. Hence you are being a retarded person, I'm siding with >>18367813, because as I can see, you can get them practically for free any time.

>>18367860
I did not?
Stamina refreshes at a rate of 1 every 20 charisma

>Acolyte will get AW2 before bandits

>>18367872
You didn't take it into account because like I said, stamina weights way more that charisma, also plat armors cannot be gotten daily and 100%, but you get a lot of unspent charisma when doing weekly events.

>>18367886
Dragon Sherman got AW 2 before actual Shermans...At this rate my Powered by Translate will never get hers.

I can't decide what AW2 path to go for with Hakunokami. On one hand there's the +20 range, but the stats on the other path are really nice.

>>18367742
>>18367758
>>18367765
>>18367813
>>18367836
>>18367860
>>18367872
>>18367903
Please make an Aigis thread on /vg/ and stop shitting this place, every time there are morons like this and it's always about that game.

>>18367927
Stats > Range, as example, think of her bubbles as Nanaly's skill, the more att, the more you can get from them, while with +20 range there isn't really that much you can get from it, making that bonus more gimmicky.

>>18367933
What's your problem? With games like this, there's always an influx of new people asking this shit.

>>18367949
Range opens up more placement options though. It would give her the same range as a healer.
Then again she doesn't need the range since she's so much tougher than healers, letting you place her aggressively.
Then again I'm not too fond of her red look.

It's a dilemma for sure.

>>18367987
>Then again I'm not too fond of her red look.
Me neither, so I'm going blue.

>>18367982
It's the autistic kid who's upset about the game closing down on nutaku who's been complaining for a while now.

>>18367987
I like that red have both her hands in dragon form and that weird tail.

>>18367933
This. Aigis is attracting /vg/ crossboarders. This is not my /jp/.

>>18367982
Just ignore him.

>>18368085
Well, it seems that this is from long before butaku closed their aigis version, dudes always like to pick an unfriendly discussion when it is related to Aigis, remember there is a big "fight" every two threads or so and Aigis is the center of it. You don't see dudes arguing about waifus/mechanics of other games, those dudes seem more civiled than the fore mentioned ones.

>>18367982
I don't think you understand the problem here. Aigis discussion always drown out all the other games. The game is popular enough to get its own thread, this thread should be reserved for games that would die in a day if left on their own.

>>18368154
>this thread should be reserved for games that would die in a day if left on their own.

What brings you to /jp/ friend? Trying to experiment how its like to shitpost in other boards outside of /vg/?

If Aigis is dying why is it so popular here?

>>18368168
Talk for yourself, I would love to see Aigis fail miserably in /vg/.

>>18368142
Remember the faggot who complained about how the OP images were always Aigis related? Probably the same guy.

>Want to full clear stages for the flower stones
>I'm at the mercy of RNG to send my girls down the right path to get all 3 medals

This is kind of ass. Is there any way to make this less painful or consistent?

>>18368198
It wasn't only one guy, I for myself wanted it to be that way too but never expressed it, also some other guys posted their discomfort, if anything Aigis dudes are making things unbearable sometimes, at times like those you just let the board a week or so and come back if all is better.

Kamihime and FKG should also be removed too once Aigis migrates. Those games are way too popular still and would dominate the discussion in this thread once Aigisfags leave. I want to go back to the days of 1-3 posts every 20 hours. The threads lately have been too fast.

>>18368225
>Those games are way too popular
I dont see dudes from those games arguing the way aigis dudes do, they just spew vitriol.

>>18368235
Just like you're doing right now

Oh wait, was that supposed to be a secret?

>>18368154
It's been like this for years, and it's worked out pretty nicely for years. I get it that you're a dumb sperg who's new to the general and you're upset it's not a safe space for your cuckold game, but maybe you should think about making your own general if it upsets you that much.

remove /mbgg/ shitposters

>>18368218
>>18368235
If anything, you're spewing far more vitriol than all games in this thread combined.
If we're going to remove something from here then you're the #1 candidate.

>>18368225
>The threads lately have been too fast
Blame the influx of Aigis players from nutaku to DMM, the noobs only know how to whine and ask to be sponfeed, also pick a fight when possible.

IMO the DMM players should go back and make their own thread. This use to be a nutaku general.

>>18368249
Not him, but I see why they want Aigis fags out, you guys pick a fight and call names to whoever touch your precious game.

>>18368254
Blame cucktaku for fucking up Aigis on their platform, too.
Everything can be traced back to being nutaku's fault, and it usually is.

>>18368262
This.

>>18368262
Nutakufags should just move to /vg/ since over 90% of the games are western shit now. Keep your shit like Harem Heroes and Pussy Saga out of /jp/

>>18368248
He's all yours /jp/
You can keep him and no returns allowed

>>18368270
Unironically this.

>>18368266
>>18368262
Damn, he's right, just do a dmm or nutaku general and all's well.

>download the SenPro app because the game runs like fucking shit on browser
>forced 2 years long initial data download that hangs and restarts aaaaaalll the way back from 0% every 2 minutes
fucking fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK

There's no need to split the thread, Aigis is D Y I N G in the first place.
Heck if you look at DMM games ranking right now. the shitty FGO Maou gacha is occupying the 2nd spot.

Do we have to do this shit every week? Just talk about the fucking games and cute girls and be done with it.

>>18368297
But there's people playing games I dont like mommy! And they're enjoying them!

We tried splitting DMM and Nutaku before, that's why we're back to having both in the same thread because all the DMMfags would just come to the Nutaku thread because they never had a thread up. Granted this was back when Aigis was on both platforms.

>>18368294
Aigis is dying so hard they need to latch onto collabs just to survive. The absolute state of Aigis!

>>18368288
Games are running worse and worse on browsers nowaday.
Sometime I wonder what is the real cause, flash is dying, the game devs fucking up their own games, or every new update keeps adding more broken shit to these browsers.

>>18368305
Nutaku has basically killed off all of their relevant games, so a split would probably be much less favourable for them now, if anything.

>nutaku kills kamihime and FKG
What would even be left?

>>18368294
Keep telling yourself that, seeing how Girls Union is still in DMM after more than 2 years being under 30th place, what makes you thing that Aigis will die when the two are from the same devs?

>>18368304
>And they're enjoying them!
If anything the post shows how they aren't and are more into picking on anyone who crosses their way

>>18368324
They are finishing the Aigis story soon. Just a few more months and we'll get the Thank You for Playing notice.

>>18368320
DraPro and
surprisingly
BGR? it's a fucking zombie of a game
and Mononofu which was never truly alive to begin with, not even on DMM nowadays

>>18368320
Their new in-house games.

>rance collab
>still 5th place
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING AIGISBROS

>>18368338
OH NONONONO
WE WERE IN CONTROL

>>18368320
DMM general, wich will develop into a DMM general "No Aigis included" and Aigis fags make their own general, when their game is dead they go to the DMM general and learn to behave or pick anothe game to shit on it.

>>18368338
>R18 page
nice try cuck, see you in the all ages page where Aigis is undisputed king

>>18368332
Aigis devs said already that this chapter will end but they have material for at least 4 more chaps, and no Aigis ver2, it will pick from where it left.

>>18368338
>>18368341
I can't believe we've attracted these kinds of quality shitposters. It was nice knowing you guys.

>>18368338
>>18368341
Back to /gbfg/ and /mbgg/.

>>18368353
Blame the retards posting links to the generals in /vg/ for the Aigis collab

IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS WE WERE KIIIIINGS

>>18368353
Like 2 posts calling themselves retards and 40 crying about how they really hate aigis.

>>18368305
The Nutaku thread was a lot more popular in those days, we would organize boss raids for Lords of Valkyrie and had a bunch of people playing together. But look at Nutaku now, all the games they started with are gone now so people just moved to DMM.

One can only hope Nutaku takes it easy forever soon.

>>18368356
>knowing how /gbfg/ and /mbgg/ fags shitpost
You have to go back

>>18368359
So you are saying the shitposters are Alicesoft fags from /vg/ ?

>>18368345
>Aigis is undisputed king
What's GBF and KanColle? Oh wait, you said Aigis is the king let me see, what's Aigis? Oh I had to scroll down to find it.

>>18368360
>kamihime over FKG and goddamn sword homos
what the fuck it's never been higher than 9th what happened this time

>>18368370
Damn, never believed the tales.

>>18368370
>Aigis isn't dying they said
The absolute CITY of Aigis fags. How can they even compete?

>>18368367
Definitely not. These idiots absolutely aren't from /haniho/.

Did Hiromoot link /sp/ and /pol/ to our board?

>>18368360
>>18368370
Delete this...our game is alive...I am NOT wasting my money

>>18368396
>seen this exact same gif in /gbfg/ on several occasions
We have to go back.

>>18368370
Keep in mind that this is one day after: Start of second part of the most time demanding kind of event, start of a collab, and start of valentines login bonus, the other games achieve much more with only login bonuses like ShiroPro.

>>18368402
Toontix la

>>18368407
ook ook toontix la

>>18368384
Some autists will stop at nothing if it means getting their way and killing something they dont lie

>everyone blaming Aigis
Kamipro players are the ones who brought /gbfg/ shitposters over. That should be the game to exclude.

give blacktix la

>>18368413
They dont like*

>>18368416
You say everyone like its more than one idiot throwing the world's biggest tantrum over people enjoying themselves.

>>18368416
Literally no one brings up kamipro on /gbfg/ or /vg/ at all if not to shit on it

>>18368416
Aigis has been like this way before KHP started, if anything, blame the forums or the same google, because it's the first redirect that you can get without effort.

>>18368426
>one idiot
I'm sure it's just one guy samefagging instead of several crossboarders who are raiding our thread as we speak.

>>18368433
>I'm sure it's just one guy samefagging
You'd be real fucking surprised

>>18368417
brapictix*

>>18368426
Well, seeing the time stamps, IP counts and post numbers, for the past hour, I can say that...or its a guy using VPN or in fact there are more posters into this.

>>18368433
>raiding
You know that's against the rules right?

>>18368447
>shitposters caring about rules

Just report and ignore them instead of wasting your time entertain them.

>>18368433
>raiding
Are you this delusional? Aigis discusion started it all, and it isnt an issue from today and this thread, it predates some time back.

>>18368460
Would be hard to predate some time ahead.

>>18368467
>Would be hard to predate some time ahead.
I've seen some weird cases, and heard some tales...

Seriously speaking, I think the reason Aigis is lagging in the rankings is because everyone switched to the android version. The browser version sucks lately and only works properly on a specific chrome version.

To prove my point, Aigis is 3rd place on the smartphone ranking right now.

>>18368496
>3rd
oh no no no

>>18368496
You mean there's people that DONT use the android version?

Its silky smooth, responsive, avaliable on the go and the touch interface allows for more quicker reactions over using a mouse. It barely takes up space too compared to modern mobages.

>>18368496
Aigis use to be first on smartphone rankings 100% of the time. The fact that it's 3rd now is saying something about its longevity.

>>18368496
It's ranked 5th on my end, 3rd is Kamihime, below...
The Kamihime app

>>18368460
Its like 2 posts shitting on each other while talking about aigis and nearly a hundred posts from you crying about how you wish Aigis and all its players were dead.

Blaming Aigis or anyone else at this point would be extremely embarassing.

There was a time when Aigis didn't do seasonal units like this. Now it's reduced to limiteds and seasonals just like every other mobage. Aigis is on its last legs, I won't be surprised if they completely shut off their game and relaunch it but with voice acting and a renewed look. They already casted voices for some characters.

>>18368524
I think it was just a big snowball that started with something. You know, like when there is a group of people asking for lets say animal rights, then a group starts saying, yeah animal rights, and while we are on it, lets ask about inmigrants or some other unrelated issue.

>>18368546
Its a big baby that cant handle people talking about things he doesnt like, that's about it.

>>18368537
>Aigis is on its last legs
I wonder how it's the cafe going

>>18368552
This is suspicious, you keep saying its only one person fault, but on my end it shows there are more involved...care to elaborate about it?

>>18368552
It's more like "various", this for sure isn't only one person.

>>18368537
>I won't be surprised if they completely shut off their game and relaunch it but with voice acting and a renewed look. They already casted voices for some characters.
We WOULD get to keep all of our current units and progress in that case... right?

>>18368204
Yeah I absolutely hate this mechanic.

Many stages to farm for flower stones but you're at the mercy of RNG sending you down the right path to get them, its like I'm playing Kancolle again.

>>18368505
>You mean there's people that DONT use the android version?
Wait, how do you go about doing that?

>>18368639
http://www.dmm.com/app/-/appstore/download/

Download dmm's store then download aigis from the store. There's R18 version and all ages too for the app so pick your favorite.

>>18368506
>The fact that it's 3rd now is saying something about its longevity.
The game is half a decade old, the fact that it's still one of the top ranking games is a testament to its longevity. All the other gacha games launched on the same year are either dead a long time ago or is a half-dead zombie like Lord of Walkure.

To put it in perspective Kamihime is only 2 years old while FKG is just 3 years old.

>>18368658
Kamihime is not 2 years old just yet.
Kinda deserving of an applause, to be released in the past years without crashing and burning 6 months later

Which of the big three will get an anime first

>>18368682
Naruto.

>>18367555
No, but typically the options available to each pick ticket never change so there's not much point in saving them. The exception is rainbow medals which can be saved for future waifus.

>>18368505
>Mostly play games that only need one input
>Forget I can use both hands for Aigis
>Still miss pokes for selecting units
Pretty gud but wish viewing unit art worked better. Moving around menus has been kinda slow after the recent update.

>>18368682
I'd really like to see some hentai animation for these but it's probably not worth the costs.

>>18368730
Should I be caring about team compositions to advance or can I just pick whoever looks cute and be done with it?

Currently just getting headaches with getting routed on the right path to clear things. Does it ever get better or is it the kancolle brand of gameplay where I'll have to pray to the god of RNG to let me full clear things?

>>18368765
It's primarily the early maps that do this from what I recall.
Later on maps become more about relative speed management of your teams so you don't have one of them reaching the finish node before your others can clear out their routes than being about stacked RNG chains.

>>18368204
They stopped doing this after the first 1.5 years, and occasionally, fix the worst offenders and distribute compensation to everyone who already completed them.

But you'll still run in to some stamina sponges in the main story and revivals. I just forged on and got them eventually but some missions took literally weeks to get the last medal.

If you calculate the odds you can usually improve your chances slightly by changing the deployment. After they stopped putting out hardcore RNG grinds there was a long period where the initial setup on most maps was slightly suboptimal so that flipping one team to a different entry point would improve your chances (e.g. from 50% to 66%), basically to reward players who took the time to analyse the map. Even that is rare these days as random panels have almost completely fallen out of favour.

>>18368142
Someone tried to start a fight over best girls earlier but it went nowhere.

This thread would be dead and useless without Aegis. Skipping over discussion for a game I have no interest in is annoying but it still belongs here.

>>18368813
>best girls
*girl

>>18368316
Chrome is definitely putting the screws on flash.

>>18368332
If you follow that logic then rip FKG since the "Climatic battle" has been teased in recent nico broadcasts.

>>18368878
FKG can die too along with Aigis and Kamihime. These games are too popular around here and deserve to have their own generals.

>>18368929
So then what are we supposed to post about? The other kusoge on DMM?

>>18368936
Nothing. The purpose of his shitposts are to kill generals then move on to the next one he sets his sights on.

>>18368936
Yes. We can't talk about the smaller games without the discussion getting drowned out by the popular games and it's hard to get people to pick up less popular games because everyone new just sticks to whatever seems to be the most popular.

>>18368765
>Does it ever get better or is it the kancolle brand of gameplay where I'll have to pray to the god of RNG to let me full clear things?
It used to be a full-on RNG fest like Kancolle, with maps like 10-5 being an absolute horror to clear. But they quickly realized that these maps weren't a good idea, stopped doing events like that, and later on retouched some of the more annoying maps to replace spinners with arrows. This led to the current status quo where all new maps have little to no routing-related challenges, though the memory of them still remains: there was a pest naming/pun contest a while ago, and one of the more prominent contestants was a spinner-carrying butterfly with the power to mislead its enemies.

This is also a good example of the FKG style of game development, one reason for the game's popularity is that it's immune to sunk cost fallacy - if some new mechanic fails to please the player base, you can be sure that it's being either revamped or dismantled outright. One decisive moment in FKG's history was the "Calla threshold": They once had an event with a girl-locking system akin to Kancolle's, which was universally loathed (it came at a time that the average player barely had a single developed squad, let alone two), and their response to user complaints was holding an emergency maintenance, removing all traces of unit locking from the game, compensating all players for the trouble, and never releasing anything resembling that afterwards.

This was followed by changes to pretty much every underperforming mechanic in the game: several buff waves, revamps for critical, dodge, defense, counter and "attack up on skill use" abilities, changes to raid recruitment that allow you to battle RBs at will, removal of low-level fairies from 80-cost fairy maps, addition of a new fairy map that guarantees a 100-year fairy, split of the elixir map, retroactive removal of spinners in story/daily maps, addition of rainbow medals, and a whole slew of experimental mechanics that were constantly refined through user feedback. This, coupled with the generous amount of flower stones given in apology or as thanks (some fellow on Twitter counted 63 for this January alone, and this is ignoring these you get from map clears/log-in campaigns), is responsible for establishing the game's longstanding good reputation.

>>18368939
You sure know a lot about this boogeyman.

>>18369027
The posts are mysteriously exactly the same used to shit up /mbgg/ down to the same 'arguments' when a game this mysterious person hates, I wonder why.

Did you hear that? We OWN you. You would be NOTHING without us.

I was looking at the wiki to see if I could decide who to pick with this 5* ticket in my inventory and I noticed this girl doesnt have a 3rd illustration when everyone else I looked at did

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Bleeding_Heart

Why is that?

>>18369306
All new units get added without bloomed art or 3rd h-scenes. They eventually go back and add them.

>>18369362
Ah, that makes sense. The other two I was looking at to try to decide were these two and they had a cute third illustration so I was wondering why she was the only one with no 3rd.

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Peach_Blossom_(June_Bride)
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Christmas_Begonia

How long does it take them to add that sort of stuff?

>>18369434
Christmas Begonia's was very recent.

Two months ago, judging by this video I uploaded when she went back on rate-up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dibEM1fr5YQ

And I used my pick ticket on Hanamomo Bride.

>>18369434
They're added in batches of four every other week.

>>18369434
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Jersey_Cudweed

She got added around July and just got her bloom art like 2 weeks ago. I think they caught up on their back log of units without bloom, so I think it should be a little quicker going forward.

>>18369434
As far as players are concerned it's random since it depends on artist availability.

>>18369003
It's a bit sad to see fkg's popularity slowly waning despite all of that. The game is probably intimidating for new players as an anon mentioned earlier.

>>18368765
>Should I be caring about team compositions to advance or can I just pick whoever looks cute and be done with it?
For golds you can feel free to grab anyone you want. There are a few star performers but they will not make much difference from any other gold in the grand scheme of things.

>>18369517
>The game is probably intimidating for new players as an anon mentioned earlier.

As a new player, its sort of frustrating. I honestly had a way smoother time starting out in Aigis than here when I started during its anniversary since things were more clear cut and the UI's far more intuitive.

I start clearing things with my pack of level 1 girls and then meet these RNG panels that frustrate me to no end and require me to clear the stage like ten times to get the full clear or me to just give up and move on. I repeat this for every stage I can find that gives stones and then take them to the gacha when I've finally amassed 50 of them to exchange them for bronze and silver girls which is where I decide to maybe go do something else for the day because I dont have it in me to clear more story.

Make no mistake though, my sudden demotivation is brought not by the bad gacha results but the lack of motivation to wrestle RNG spinner panels for more stones and how overwhelming the game looks at a glance. There's a gazillon banners up to the point where you dont know where to even start and there's things in my inventory I didnt even know I had because i'm shown a dozen notices when I log on to the point I just skip past them wondering when they will end and let me play the game.

Outside of that, the girls are extremely cute and seems like its a generous and fun game at the core but there's just too much to process in one sitting without someone to guide you through the ropes until you no longer need the training wheels. I mostly got interested in it because I heard it was having its anniversary, I was told I still had time to complete the campaigns if I started that day and I rolled some cute girls I like enough to try to figure out the game.

>>18369698
Well, one rule of thumb with FKG is that you're never obliged to play too much. If binge-playing would burn you out due to the number of options, feel free to take things at your pace, event characters in this game are easy to get and will eventually be reissued even if you miss them. The English wiki is very comprehensive too, referencing it would help a lot in getting your priorities straight.

That said, the current event is a raid type and widely considered the easiest. You don't need to clear the event stages multiple times; instead, you battle raid bosses (accessed from the red raid button on the main screen) for event items and exchange these in the shop. You have six raid points, one regenerates every half-hour, and the rewards aren't damage based so even beginners get them in full. Combined, these mean that the event girl can be maxed out in a day. Since you don't need your stamina to clear this kind of event, you can spend it to get more flower stones from story maps and dailies, or if you like any of the revival characters, you can grind for them as well (their maps are on the fourth tab of the battle section, the items you get from clearing these are also exchanged in the shop).

Things may look confusing at first, but take it easy, you'll quickly settle down into the game and get to the point where nearly every new map can be handled in a single run. Incidentally, the number of sections and banners that complicates things for beginners also becomes a boon for advanced players: I want to test my current Aigis team against Furfur 10, for example, but to do that I need to wait heaven knows how long for his reissue, while on FKG every challenge map is available at all times and the harder stages will even refund your stamina on failed attempts until you clear them. Still, I bet that a revised tutorial could go a long way in helping new players; knowing the FKG team, they may actually have one in the works too.

Also, who are your favorite girls so far?

>>18370022
>Also, who are your favorite girls so far?
Right now, my top three would be Ghost weed and the two versions of Helios since they're easily the cutest girls on my team.

Been trying to decide who I want to grab with the 5* ticket and I posted about it above so whoever I grab will probably join the favorite ring and I'll only need one more girl to run a party of cute girls that I find absolutely adorable and cute but I'm still pretty indecisive about it since I find those 3 to be super cute. Could maybe cut Bleeding heart and make it between Begonia and Peach blossom.

I'll probably try to ram myself at the game tomorrow and see if I can figure out more things since the game does seem to be generous and forgiving towards its players from what people have said with the only downside being the rates that are absolutely ass. Is experience here a pain to get in large amounts like in Aigis or is it more standard where maxing out a character wont cost me a really long while to do so? The guide said to pour my resources into leveling my highest rarity girl so I did but I'd like to start working on the other girls I like too.

>>18370090
Experience is plentiful compared to Aigis, and each month there are weekly campaigns to make parts of it easier: you can do the fairy dailies during a 30% stamina off event, combine them during a great success rate up event for extra experience, and get the gold necessary to evolve girls during a 2x gold up event. I could comfortably raise every event girl I have to level 70 (evolved maximum) and every gacha girl to 80 (bloomed maximum), with only a small backlog - and even that would be cleared if I expended some stamina nectar on it (this is an item that restores half your maximum stamina, and you're given piles of it for free, so you don't need to use flower stones if you want to expend a lot of stamina on grinding something).

By the way, here's a more recent story map, showing the extinction of spinners (they still occur, but mostly to reach some healing/solar drive panel rather than a pest node that's necessary for 3*). And speaking of Christmas Begonia, I should say that for a certain reason, her parents are at the top of the list for the most widely hated characters in FKG, right next to Dipladenia's former knightmaster (whom you actually get to punch out in her character quest). If anyone in the setting deserves healing and love, it's her.

>>18370167
>Experience is plentiful compared to Aigis
I dont know about that man, I have a full compressor of exp armors and the same for faeries, while in FKG I need to constantly get the exp fodder to lvl the event girl or the new gacha girl, or the exp to get my new bloom girl to 80. If something, I think the game give you so much more gacha currency compared to aigis that you can't really keep up with the exp

>>18370200
That's weird, I have a ton of unleveled shrine units in Aigis (and can't even bother with the event girls) while everything is in order for FKG. Maybe it's because I level my units to AW90/99, or sacrifice every SC I get to the demoness and never use any for grinding armors/fairies. I still don't have my first barracks after two years, for example.

The daily stamina nectar quest goes a long way in patching experience deficits too, while Aigis has no real equivalent beyond the once-a-year chocolates.

>>18370167
I see, that's great to hear about experience and spinners.

Should I try to bother with proper teambuilding with what I have right now or can I just slap whatever and do things with it? When does proper team building start mattering in the game to the point where I should try to pay more attention to what I run?

>And speaking of Christmas Begonia, I should say that for a certain reason, her parents are at the top of the list for the most widely hated characters in FKG, right next to Dipladenia's former knightmaster

I read in the wiki something about her parents wanting to marry her off and I thought arranged marriages were sort of common for fantasy settings but her parents must be real dicks if they're the most hated characters in the game.

>>18370241
>while Aigis has no real equivalent beyond the once-a-year chocolates.

That's easy, just whale hard and your wife will make food for you!.

>I still don't have my first barracks after two years, for example.

How do you even play without barracks? I felt like a gigantic weight was lifted off my shoulders when I bought my first barracks recently and kissed space/storage problems goodbye.

Why is stamina still capped at 18?
This is just so goddamn backwards

>>18370241
>I still don't have my first barracks after two years, for example
Maybe because of that, you are forcing yourself to keep to not save and spend every bit of exp as it comes.

>>18370090
As a free player, my rate of xp fairy gain has not quite kept up with the rate I collect gold and rainbow girls but it's pretty close, and levelling your core team is not much trouble. You don't really need to level silvers and below since they will be replaced by golds within a few months. I only started evolving my <=4*s six months ago after leaving them unlevelled for two years.

Aside from events the main time-limited thing you will want to keep an eye on is the current temporary revival. Note this one has 5 days, 12 hours and 1 minute left in this screenie. The most important thing to get here is the two flower stones, and getting those should also give you enough currency to buy the event equipment which is gone for good if you miss it (you can get up to three copies of each from the event, revival, and permanent). Event gear generally has the best stats and you need lots of it to equip all your golds and beef up your whaleship.

The revival girl herself is a lesser priority. Unless she's cute you can ignore her since she will be back as a permanent revival eventually and event girls are useless without all their skill and equipment slots unlocked. Grinding all that currency on a time limit while also dealing with the current events is a bad idea so I suggest just grabbing the time-limited gear then working on girls and their skill/dress-blooms from permanent revivals at your leisure.

Event girls have gimped abilities compared to gacha girls but having all equipment slots unlocked boosts their basic stats so they usually provide more power for your whaleship then a 1 or 2-slotted gacha girl. The first few event girls like Lavender and Eidelweiss are exceptions so grinding them out first is a good idea.

There are a few things like EX gear and Personal equipment evolution which are intended for older players as they provide very minor boosts for a ton of effort. They can be safely ignored for your first year of play. Likewise the early whaleship missions are good for the completion bonuses but currency efficiency is bad so whaleship can be ignored till you are stronger.

Grabbing Ampules whenever possible is a good idea for long-term strategy, since they are a bottleneck for maximising your waifu team's power.

>>18370302
>Aside from events the main time-limited thing you will want to keep an eye on is the current temporary revival. Note this one has 5 days, 12 hours and 1 minute left in this screenie.

I dont know if that cute girl was supposed to be a game screenshot of said event banner but she's definitely pretty cute.

>The revival girl herself is a lesser priority.
Well shit, I went and grabbed the girl on the valentines banner thing since its the only event I've bothered with and in other games you'd usually prioritize the welfare character over the rest. I'll try to focus on grabbing the equipments and the ampules next so thanks a lot for the advice, hopefully its not too hard to do.

Its also good to know that Lavender girl is a grindable event girl, the description of her that was given and the pictures of her were super cute so I'll definitely go get her.

>>18370243
>When does proper team building start mattering in the game to the point where I should try to pay more attention to what I run?

The ultimate missions (tough high-level enemies all weak to one type), unique missions (each has certain restrictions, specific buffs, or other gimmicks), and to a somewhat lesser degree the whaleship missions (which you would ideally want 40 leveled girls for, with at least 16 being a certain type).
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Mission
Other than those, it's totally fine to arrange the 20 cutest you have however you want and let em loose.

>>18370243
It's still a bit early for teambuilding, except that you should focus on golds and (especially) rainbows. Every gacha rainbow is an excellent unit that will have a permanent spot on your team, while multi-hit and 3-target skills are generally ideal for golds, so Japanese Iris, Shion, Yukata Heliotrope and Swimsuit Toadlily are standouts (as is Christmas Ghost Weed, though I don't know how you feel about keeping two versions of one character in your team). Heliotrope and Coral Flower also have high stats for gold-rarity girls, which is useful for whale ship in the future.

As for endgame teams, there are multiple ways to go about it. Some abilities, like enemy attack reduction and solar drive boosts, are best when stacked - a 15% attack reduction won't do that much, while a dedicated debuff team can tackle the hardest challenge map in the game with just five girls. Others, like barrier and dodge, are very splashable: A single rainbow with dodge will massively improve the performance of any team, as you can combine it with the attachable provoke ability to greatly reduce damage (all incoming attacks will target your rainbow, who will dodge most). Still others, like skill rate up and critical rate/damage up, can be stacked to great effect but are also good in any amount.

>>18370253
>How do you even play without barracks?
That's easy too, just have no self-control whatsoever and feed Audgis II the moment you put together 5 SC.

>>18370349
If you mean this priestess, she's the current event character, not the revival unit. Echeveria, the redheaded rocket punch girl, is the current temporary revival.

>>18370403
>>18370386
I'll keep an eye on those then, thanks. For now I'm just going to go leveling the ones I find cute and slap them on teams since I like seeing the cute chibi animations. Dont have any issues on having two versions of one character in a team since I've been running both ghost weeds and both helios on a team too.

And yeah, I meant that priestess girl.

Wew, looks like I'm building myself a dank-ass Magic team.

>>18370487
This is why I didn't roll this pickup

>>18364786

I have a pretty high standard for loyalty and respect for both your own relationship(s) and those of others. Rance may be an obnoxious jackass, but Sill is devoted to him and he clearly cares for her in his own dysfunctional way. You don't fuck with another man's woman (and I do mean that in the Biblical sense, she's basically his fated soulmate), and that extends to standing by and passively peeping on her masturbating/allowing her to be violated by a halfway sentient creature. The first one I could partly forgive if Sill wasn't waffling between calling for Prince and calling for Rance, and if Prince hadn't ignored his better judgement and had just let her be after he noticed what was happening, but the second turns him into your average limp-wristed twat of a NTR protagonist and Sill into your average NTR victim, and that I don't forgive. You see someone being molested by a tentacle monster? You don't hang there and tell yourself "There's nothing I can do, so I should just get off on the guilty pleasure of watching." I don't care if the thing has your balls in a vice grip, you struggle until it pulls you limb from limb or you escape; then, you either die knowing you tried to do what was right, or you chop, stab, burn, or fucking bite the thing until either it, or you, are good and dead. Same goes for Sill, honestly. She loves Rance wholeheartedly, and that love should make her violently resistant to anyone or anything trying to interfere with that. Instead, she makes a whole bunch of fuss about not wanting to be raped and wanting Prince to save her, then just gives in and takes it with little in the way of a physical struggle. And this is without addressing the elephant in the room, that both Prince and Sill are capable enough fighters to handle a single tentacle monster without too much trouble, element of surprise or not. Classic "X character is totally capable/devoted/loyal/resilient, until it's more convenient that they not be."

>>18370594

Most people are going to see this and say "Yeah, so? What's the big deal? It's just a porn game, bro. This isn't high literature, it's not something to get worked up over." I don't think about these things that way, never have and never will. There's weight to actions, even in fiction. This type of fetish comes from ideas, thoughts, emotions, instincts -- the particulars may be partly fantastical, but it is always grounded in our reality by virtue of its foundation being built from human thought. I loathe cheating, cuckoldry, NTR, rape, passivity as regards the protection of loved ones, and all the things which follow, in the real world - so it goes in fiction. Doubly so when they get inserted into a setting where they hadn't been before. I love genuine, meaningful romance, with actual feeling put into it beyond animal fucking, in the real world - so it goes in fiction. I love that special, tight knit bond that forms around a true family, where each and every member would sacrifice themselves for each other, and where loyalty to the vows you've made and the love you share defines you, in the real world - so it goes in fiction. Aigis is no paragon of moral virtue, obviously, but it's practically wholesome by comparison to other games of its ilk. I came for the cute girls, same as most, but I didn't stay just because they were cute. Am I overreacting? To someone who doesn't like to think that deeply about something because it's "not real" or "just porn" or "not worth getting worked up over", so on, sure. Some people hear "self-insert" and shrug, or roll their eyes. I don't pretend that everyone tries to piece together the jumbled mess of Google translated harem scenes, R-18 and all-ages, just so they can get a somewhat better reading on the relationship between Prince and his girls, then alters things to suit their tastes. Not everyone gives a shit about what I give a shit about. Most probably don't get invested into browser h-games.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not writing all this to mean "Stop liking what I don't like, or you'll be sorry!" Anyone else is free to enjoy NTR and the like, or not care either way. My personal disgust for that type of stuff will only ever be mine. As could be gathered from my initial label for Rance, I don't even particularly like the guy as a character; I'm not especially endeared to Sill, either. If these scenes hadn't been added to Aigis, I wouldn't have bothered getting angry. There are tens of thousands of works featuring all kinds of cheating and NTR out there, many depicting far, far worse scenarios than a short bout of lust crazed schlicking and tentacle rape. As it is, I'm a big enough boy to just put Sill in the barracks and pretend she doesn't even have scenes. Doesn't mean I have to appreciate that garbage being present.

>>18370594
>>18370602
>You see someone being molested by a tentacle monster? You don't hang there and tell yourself "There's nothing I can do, so I should just get off on the guilty pleasure of watching.

Yeah, you'd keep the thing as a pet and bring it more playthings. I enjoy tentacles and tentacle porn so maybe the prince and I had the same train of thought and it was less "There's nothing I can do" and more of a "I really like this but no one must know I liked it" when a cute girl you couldn't dick was getting her holes filled by a tentacle monster in front of you.

And a scene like that feels par for the course for Rance anyway, I remember playing though Sengoku rance and I felt like the game's routes and scenes spit on what I like and want on a VN so honestly something like this probably wouldnt be out of place in their world but wouldnt happen for the sole fact the devs dont want to open the can of worms that is in-world NTR.

I'm not even a NTR enthusiast, I just have no particular attachment to rance or rance's universe and wanted H-scenes with Sill so this is perfectly fine for me.

>>18370594
Why are you copying rants off the wiki?

When SenPro was on nutaku I didn't really play it past a couple hours but I remember Enmadaiou was the fucking cutest
did she get any new alternate version on DMM?

>>18370403
>Decide to check out xmas ghost weed evolved art
>It changes her clothes into the cutest snowman ever

I'm falling in love with this game and the girls, this is great.

>>18370602
>>18370670
Personally, I find it surprising that they just didn't do the whole "flashback to sex with partner" deal that eroge-DMM collaborations usually do. It can be a CG specially made for the game, although maybe Aigis has some unspoken rule about not seeing any naked male bodies except the Prince's.

Also, Sill got tentacled in II/02, so not that big of an offence.

>>18370684
>fuck off.png

You should take your own advice, Aelcarius.

>>18370705
I wouldn't cap my own posts to play show and tell with them.

>>18370702

Didn't one of the collab girl get fucked by the protag of whichever game they came from

>>18370684
I honestly don't get why he's so mad. I might've only played Sengoku Rance but I can't say I'm particularly upset with Sill getting fucked by tentacles or peeped on when Rance's goal is to fuck every woman he meets even if he has to rape her.

>>18370697
That's the other strong point of FKG. Pretty much every character has some portrait, SD, voice line or backstory that makes them endearing.

Fullmoon Maple went from "bootleg Kaede" to "must protect at all costs" just because of this here. Well, her "wants to be serious and competent, but secretly has a cutesy side" personality helped too, but the guy who makes these SDs is still a genius.

>>18370785

It's called autism. Signs include posting excess amount of text unsolicited about his own feelings.

>>18370349
Shit I stuffed up. She was one of the recent popularity contest top 5.

This is the revival/rocketpunch girl I was meant to post.

>>18370890
Whats the best stage to eternally grind for points on that banner?

>>18370349
Oh I definitely recommend getting the current event girls and their flowers since they are usually easier to grind currency for then revivals, especially in the second week when that event's secret gardens spawn.

Revivals are when the event girl comes back six months later and then permanents(aka re-revivals) happen 12 months after that.

>>18370930
The highest-leveled one you can realistically clear is probably your best bet, since the stamina to currency ratios are better the higher up you go. Though honestly I'd recommend against doing it at all: the event equipment sets are something you'll naturally earn over time and you're going to have to sink a massive amount of time and stamina into grinding the lower-tier maps if you want to earn them at your level. Only bother with it if you really like the event unit, I'd say.

You might also want to consider sharing your friend ID here, anon. It's always more fun to use the teams of fellow anons as sacrificial cannon fodder during harder maps.

>>18370930
All stages generally have similar returns, with higher-stamina maps being slightly more lucrative than lower and the second week's batch being slightly more lucrative than the first. Averages are something like 1.8 event items/stamina for E1 (first week, first stage), 2.0/stamina for E4 (first week, last stage), 1.9/stamina for E5 (second week, first stage) and 2.1/stamina for E8 (second week, last stage). It's better to go for the highest map you can reliably clear.

And huh, I checked my backlog and it's longer than I expected (12 knights at level 1, and 10 at level 70 that I want to bloom). The rapid-pace introduction of new blooms probably increased the experience demand, although they've been giving out more fairies in log-in campaigns recently, so they're probably trying to strike a balance again. Still not bad, since I haven't actually grinded fairy maps in years, my fairies mostly come as a byproduct of the whale stages.

>>18370930
>>18371009
>sacrificial cannon fodder
Best use of strong helper teams is to punch through the boss nodes and hit the flag while your weaker teams take out the lesser pests and/or grab the loot.

Also don't feel bad about needing to grind lower-levelled event maps since they have better gold and xp to stamina ratios. I think the 15-stam event maps have the best xp ratio in the game, while main story missions are the second-best if you want to level up quickly.

>>18371063
>>18371009
>Do the revival maps for equipment
>Dont do them because its not worth it and you'll get the stuff over time

I'm getting mixed signals here /jp/

>>18371102
Not either of these two, but I'm on the "do them" camp. We're on a raid event, so it's not like your stamina is urgently needed elsewhere, and these event rings are good enough that you'll want a set of 20 for your entire squad. You don't need to get the character if you don't like her, but grab the event ring at the very least, it takes next to no investment (100-120 stamina maybe, counting the completion bonuses).

>FKG waifu doesn't have bloomed art yet

One of my other favorites got a kind of underwhelming bloomed version recently so I'm worried for her, but I also hope she gets it soon. I also wish I could translate her valentine's day line but my Japanese is still shit.

>>18371102
Different strokes for different folks. I have never failed to get the event girl, all her flowers, and all equipment for every event and revival issued since my first day of playing. I started half-way through Dipladenia's event and the start of the first revival event (Lavender's) so that first month was hell, but it's very doable thanks to all the level-up refills. Back then you didn't keep any stamina above your max when levelling so it's easier now.

Was great timing too since Lavender was basically the reason I started playing and she immediately threw herself at me. Typical.

Also must re-emphasize that you do not need to grind the current boss event. Just get the flower gems and then spend your raid points poking the blue bosses and you'll be swimming in currency and xp fairies.

>>18371219
Lavender looks more like a flat teen in game instead of a perflat loli like what some anon described last thread. She's still cute though.

>>18371235
Well, sorry about that. I like joking about FKG being a loli game, but I don't really have discerning tastes when it comes to that. Any petite character counts in my book.

Speaking of discerning tastes: what Lavender is seeking in your garbage bin is your leftovers to eat. She may not be a full loli, but she's got the yandere thing down alright.

>>18370785
He was jealous as fuck. And is the 100% scene really tentacles?

>>18371540
>>18364843

Which AW2 for Despia? 10 more range and 30% more skill time is hard to ignore considering her SAW, but 80% slow isn't half bad either in general.

Anyone pre-reg for Jewel Princess Girls? Do you guys keep your 3/4* and level them up to 5* or swap them up for proper 5*s?

Finally autism-rerolled into this absolute cutie.
Have a few questions if someone doesn't mind.

Should I save all my SC until I have 140 more to blow at once for the 150 SC card, or just spend as I get them at the beginning?
What banner should I pull on if I go for the spending as I get them strategy? The normal banner with Mireille seems like the better choice due to the full selection of plats, despite snagging an Estelle/Despia potentially being nice.
Saving all my SC and waiting for a banner with an amazing black on rateup/pickup is always an option too.

And finally, we return to the topic of the 2 black tickets. I wasn't aware that sarah was actually part of the ticket pool, so I'm highly tempted to do Sarah + Rinne/B.Iris. Thoughts?

>>18372399
No reason to save all the way to 150, but roll only when you're absolutely certain you can spend 150 by the end of the month. And it is certainly worth doing, monthly extra tickets go a long way.
With the introduction of guaranteed plats/blacks you also have more control over which spotlights you want to try, just monitor Aigis twitter before the update and decide at which banners you want to try your pick

>>18372399
Really depends on how autistically you can plan ahead, especially since you're going to want to expand your box and maybe the first barracks so that you're not throwing out stuff. But it shouldn't be too difficult to get to the 150 SC stampcard starting out, especially with Sylvia making everything easy. Main issue is going to be whether or not they even implement a rate-up worth rolling later this month.

The ten daily rolls also don't go away until you use them and there's no need to spend them all consecutively either.

>>18372441
>>18372450
Got it, thanks guys. I can plan ahead relatively autistically when needed, and I'm sure I'll get at least 140 more SC this month. Maybe I should expand my box with part of it though, as was pointed out.
I'm not sure how Mireille is, and I don't really need a Lilia, so perhaps pulling on the current premium banner isn't a good call. I'll look for a banner with a good plat or two, or a black or two I want. I want Estelle and Despia to be honest, but those plats don't exactly seem great, and a 25% chance of drawing a dupe seems brutal.
Though, when I was doing my rerolls I drew 12 blacks before Silvia, an 10 were Estelle, so who knows.

I guess I want a banner with Jerome/Salia/Zenobia/Uzume more than anything for plats, right? I also need to rush out some draws to reach 400 RC for Leona.
For blacks, I have quite a long list of things I want - though maybe I should hoard all my SC for a Lapis or B.Iris/Rinne (depending on who I don't take). Trying to plan this out when so much is up to good banners rotating in is a crapshoot, so I apologize for my sperging.
Really though, a banner with a few of Nanaly, Ingrid, Grace, Lapis, B.Iris/Rinne, Minerva, Altair, Ester, Kayou, Rion, Sophie, Diera, and Towa would be something I'd like to roll on.
I kinda like the look of Sylseth, and Estelle and Despia are nice so if that banner had better plats, I'd be tempting fate on it.

Just hard to establish what I should be pulling for, you know? So many things I want and so many options. I really want Leora actually, and there's 3 blacks in Imperial I like the look of, so maybe that's an option when it pops up again.

Sorry to bother, but would you guys recommend Sarah + Rinne, Sarah + B. Iris, or something else? I was thinking Sarah is the easy pick to make Sylvia a complete monster.

>>18372520
Ask your dick anon, does he like B.Iris or Rinne? It's impossible to say who is more useful overall, good units are good and also have their own unique niches to fill
Example: with B.Iris you won't clear majin Barbatos, but with Rinne you will.

While I am not familiar with either Sylvia or Sarah, aiming for synergies is good. But trying to decide between blacks can only be done by dick

>>18372596
My dick likes Rinne a lot more, but I know that B. Iris has that insane def boost passive + her SAW that people say is near essential later on.
I'm not familiar with other sources of def boosts for the most part on DMM, and I haven't looked into it in a while, so hopefully I'm wrong.

You're right that I should dick pick, though.

https://altema.jp/sennenaigis/blackticket
Guide on recommended units to get from the black ticket.

>>18372520
>>18372671
Well, as >>18372596 says, Elyse and Rinne both have their strengths: Elyse's SAW will trivialize most physical damage bosses (to the extent that she's essentially a free pass to Vepar), while Rinne's invisibility, multi-target healing, dodge passive, life-saving token and weather immunity are all immensely useful at times (especially for Barbatos and Glasya-Labolas). As for defense boosts, Elyse had the monopoly on them for quite a while, but other units like Verdinath, Aix and Xiaomei now have similar skills (although her multiplier is still big enough to break the game). I'd actually say that Rinne slightly edges out Elyse for top content, though both are stellar units.

For Sarah, though, keep in mind that she's one of these units that require high investment to shine: Initially, she's just a free early deploy (-9 cost to Prince/Emperor means that her own cost is negligible, especially if you CR her) with low stats and a defensive skill, but after you get AW/SAW, you're looking at a substantial damage boost to Sylvia, Emperor and thunder Prince (make getting him a priority too, he's disgustingly good and wrecks some earlier majin that were previously quite a bit more difficult) coupled to 30 seconds of physical immunity, which makes her a strong counter to Furfur and Shuten.

In addition, the rest of your team will be much more flexible once you have a few blacks, so you can easily start picking girls you like rather than the optimal choices. While plats like Saria, Dolce, Livre, Uzume and Elizabeth will contribute greatly to any team, other girls like Dahlia, Racua, Shizuka and Anelia were key in many of my endgame clears, and most players here probably have similar standout units too. If you like how a girl looks or plays out, there's nothing wrong with rolling for her.

Power of Rance.

>>18372739
How is kamihime not dead yet
what is it doing there
its NTR niche is far done and gone, now it's all vanilla with the off chance wacky scene
and yet there it is

>>18372722
That helps put things a lot more in perspective, thanks anon. I was thinking that Sarah was a long term investment, but her synergy with Sylvia just seems too good to pass up on. I think I'll do Sarah + Rinne.

Glad to hear that there's at least other options for Iris now, that definitely makes the choice to go for the Sarah + Rinne combo a lot easier, as I won't think that I'm hobbling myself.
I'll mostly hold onto my SC for now and wait for a banner with more things I like on it, and some things I could use. It's going to sound funny, but an Altair/Ingrid banner would be hugely welcomed in that case. Might do a few rolls on Mireille just because cute.
Thanks again!

>>18372748
Probably because it has decent gameplay even if it's just copied straight out of another game.

>>18372520
I'm only in my third month so I'm still pretty new but 150SC has been easily achievable for all 3 so far. Although 4th might be kinda iffy and 5th will have me pretty dry.

You could put off upgrading your box and just rushing a guaranteed black like I did when I started but it'll be pretty brutal on your space. You'll definitely want to look into getting the 2nd barracks early into your second month at least. The third one can probably be put off for awhile depending on how much you value the silver storage for Amours.

Adding onto the list of plats to look out for; Totono, Blanche, Rivuru and Clarice who was my personal mvp starting out and was more useful than any of my blacks for a long time.

As far as picking your black ticket goes there's not really any right answer. Personally I went with B.Iris for my healer and while she's made me able to tank things that would be nigh untankable without her there's still times when I'd rather have Rinne and she's ended up at the top of my wishlist, but I'm sure I'd be saying the same thing about B.iris if I picked Rinne instead.

>>18372792
I suppose the extra party member does make things noticeably different from grubble, since that's another slot to devote party utility to so you're not super cramped.
Or not, just use a tier IV class lmao

>>18372748
Doesn't it have animated scenes?

why don't people here play shiropro

>>18372812
I play it and think the same thing even though it ranks well.

>>18372799
Thanks for your input, anon. Are you a refugee from Nutaku too?

I definitely think I'll rush a Black, just not sure what banner I'll pop it on (if I go to pity). The more I look at her, the more I actually want Mireille, but there's no way I reach the 150 SC (+3 free rolls) to get a guaranteed on that banner before it goes away. I'll make an attempt at a few rolls, I think, though. And well, we both know rateup is a lie.

Definitely going to do my first barracks after 1 or 2 blacks, though. Need to build up a roster ASAP, I think. None of the daily revivals I need (Lieselotte especially) are going to be coming back for a bit, so that sorta sucks.
Any revivals you recommend definitely getting? I'll do the first few stages on each for SC and then I have to blow the rest on affection, I think - that's going to bottleneck me really hard, as well as getting AW fairies + EXP.

Thanks for the input on plats as well, I'll definitely consider them. The free Sill is proving to be really useful for my fresh account as well, which is really nice.

>>18372812
Don't care for the sengoku aesthetics, and it bored the hell out of me during collaboration event, Aigis has a much tighter gameplay

>>18372768
>>18372799
Well, the grass is always greener on the other side, I also picked Elyse for my ticket and I'm much more likely to remember situations where I wish I had Rinne. No doubt you'll find yourself in a map or two where a brute force "hey, your whole team is immune to physical damage now" approach would be more useful than the broad-range utility provided by Rinne, or vice versa, but I don't think you'll ever truly regret picking either.

As for Mireille, she's no slouch either: She has little offensive presence, but her SAW gives her solid EHP and makes her second only to Cornelia when you must tank endgame bosses (which you won't always want or need to). It's also hilarious to drop her + Elyse on Shuten, since his incredible physical DPS (he's one of these near-untankable bosses) ends up working against him then.

>>18372815
I'm not really into castles, that's pretty much the only reason. I do log in once in a while too, I think I have a dozen 5*+ castles laying around.

The gameplay is pretty fun, and the girls are cute.

>>18372835
Elyse is a rateup slut and comes back on one practically monthly so getting her won't be a problem for him anyways.

>>18372812
I hate writing there. Ultra-boring same shit every event.
And its too grindy for my tastes.

>>18372829
I play both Aigis and Shiropro and I think Shiropro has better gameplay (or at least better general mechanics) and more challenging maps (that allow lowbie girls to participate even in harder content) but I do feel more aversion to doing event maps repeatedly in Shiropro. I generally just clear event maps once then use up stamina in story maps.
>>18372835
Heh, I do that for Kamihime and FKG. Have 4 ssr's in Kamihime and rainbows remain a myth in FKG.

>>18372895
>I do feel more aversion to doing event maps repeatedly in Shiropro
This.
They really need to make auto-run button work for event maps too.

>>18372895
>or at least better general mechanics
The warehouse shit is literally cancer so I'll have to definitely disagree with you on that one. And how you cant block anything unless you have these designated rare gacha blocker units.

Heliotrope got to rescue the angry npc lolimaid on the revival 2-2 map. Makes me sad I'm an eop since they seemed to have a cute moment together.

>>18372976
They gave a free 6* shield unit during christmas though.
And there wouldn't be much tower defending without the warehouses

>>18372826
>Any revivals you recommend definitely getting?
Hibari, Fuuko and Mirno are exceptional for free units and should be a priority whenever they come up: Hibari combines solid offense and defense with an "attack all targets" perk that is valuable for Glasya, Fuuko is a costly but flexible supertank that can take on many bosses, and Mirno has good stats/SAW, can serve as a lightning rod, and most importantly, can plink targets from half a map away with her 400 range.

Other weekly revival units to consider are Amy (handy UP generator that can contribute ranged damage, but preferably needs to be mincosted), Leshia (pretty fun if invested into, too bad she's a black earlygame unit so she needs expensive CRs), Anya (once the premier free tank, but Hibari and Fuuko stole her thunder now), Metus (true damage and tokens, she's better at being an enchanter than the black shrine enchanter), Velty (worst unit of a broken class is still pretty alright) and Aoba/Rosel (free monster slayers with pretty good statlines and skills, Aoba has extra utility in Shuten thanks to her anti-youkai specialty).

Daily revival units of note include Lucia (melee slot healer with a kit that addresses everything her class needs to do), Reanbell (anti-swarm specialist), Helena (slightly nerfed Uzume with extra gunner support), Waltz (better of the two free dancers), Rikka (convenient source of ranged true damage), Sabrina (pirate that supports other pirates and has a multi-target burst SAW, useful with a dancer), Liselotte (Katie's unofficial second in command), Chloe (lightning rod that can shred swarms thanks to 2AW) and Fran (hits surprisingly hard but nobody notices because of her weird "bulky ranged unit" concept).

Rindou looks like she'll be a pretty good freemium tank.
Her skill AW reducing physical damage and boosting her health total sounds super nice even if the duration sounds short.
Just put some healers behind her I guess

>>18372976
To each his own. I find the warehouses okay. I think it's one of those "choose your own difficulty things." Not having all melee units innately block enemies is something I also found strange coming from aigis but I don't think it's something detrimental.

>>18372990
Yeah that'd be nice if your base wasnt on one end of the map and the warehouses you have to protect were on the other side.

I also really dont like how rarities go up to 7* and how its stingy when its rates are pretty bad so I really could never get into the game.

>>18372812
I was waiting for a gacha to roll but ended up not logging in at all. Love the setting and styles and some of the girls I have are super cute but have too many other games to worry about.