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Beato keeping up to date on the latest literary tropes!

Beatrice is my waifu even in the afterlifu.

>>17997828
What happened to her breasts?

>>17995889
That’s pretty much a WTC staple though

Usually it’s the in your face asshole that ends up being the most trustworthy- at least they’re not hiding anything

>>17998916
My favorite WTC staple is "Character who is unironically right about everything but ignored because they're mean:(."

>>17999019
That's a thing that you should really take into your heart in real life.

Waste of what could have been a nice comeback. Ignore the other thread, I was stupid not to check. Anyway:

It's been a while.

MYSTERY TIME

Battler makes a surprise visit to Rokkenjima, three days after a huge thunderstorm hit the island.
He came on a whim, but decided to tour the mansion, and wanted to round his visit off with a visit to Kinzo.
Genji opened the door to Kinzo's study after any attempts to call out Kinzo's name turned out fruitless.
Inside, Battler, accompanied by Genji, Nanjo, Kumasawa and Gohda find Kinzo slumped over his dinner table, which was set with several dishes of a full course meal.
Nanjo verifies that Kinzo is not only dead, but he has been for three full days, at the time of the thunderstorm. Kinzo appears to have been strangled to death.
Yet for some reason, the full course meal on the table appears to be fresh, the soup is still lukewarm and the rest of the dishes look fresh enough not to give off some terrible smell.
There's no way the dishes had been sitting there for three days without smelling horrendous.
So for whatever reason, one or more of the four people who had access to Kinzo's room, Genji, Nanjo, Kumasawa and Gohda had prepared a fresh meal for an obviously dead Kinzo.

It is a puzzling case. You may ask for the statements Battler took from the four suspects but /RED/ is a precious gift. But perhaps you already have some clues.
As always, /BLUE/ is encouraged if you want to earn a /RED/.

Did ricordando il passato play during the magic ending in the original version of Twilight?

>>17994634
>Kino Nei
SOLD

>>17999805
/BLUE/ Kinzo's killer placed the food on the table while Battler was touring the mansion, any of the servants could have done this. /BLUE/

>>17999920
/RED/ The food on Kinzo's table was there before Battler set foot on the island!

A good first jab, but you'll have to come up with something more complicated to solve this one, AAAAANON.

>>17999805
/BLUE/ The food wasn't meant for Kinzo at all, someone killed Kinzo and was living in his study as the new master of the mansion. /BLUE/

/BLUE/ Doctor Nanjo might be lying about Kinzos time of death./BLUE/

/BLUE/ The food was full of preservatives and was reheated on Kinzos fireplace and therefore didnt rot! /BLUE/

/BLUE/ Kinzo prepared the food himself! Food prepared through dark magic as a ritual to summon Beato, such food wouldn't rot and would maintain its initial state for longer than normal food! That was also the cause of his death, such malicious dishes had so much poison and evil in them that they caused what it appeared to be a "strangled kinzo" /BLUE/

TRY TO DENY ALL OF THIS.

>>18000052
Hah, some good arguments. I will bless you with some red truths!

/RED/ The food was especially prepared for Kinzo, dear or alive!

/RED/ Nanjo (for once) did not lie about the time of death. At the time of Battler discovering Kinzo's body, Kinzo had been dead for three full days!

/RED/ Kinzo did not prepare the food, nor was the food his cause of death. Kinzo was strangled to death three days before Battler arrived!

Is this all you can muster, anon? Obviously a witch was involved! You are incompetent!

>>17999805
Can we get some statements from the suspects?

Okay, which thread do we use now? This or the other one?

So what is Haworthia even about?

>>17999805
/BLUE/ The servant(s) who delivered the food did not see Kinzo's lifeless body until Battler discovered it on his surprise visit to Rokkenjima.

Some other things I'd like to ask:
Was the study closed off from all outer influences from after Kinzo was strangled to death (and after the culprit(s) left the room) until Battler entered the room alongside the servants?
Could there be some more information given about the types of food on the table, with temperature and rotten scale given in /RED/ if at all significant or necessary to solve the mystery?

>>18000093
Something

Something

[Blue] Small Bombs

>>18002192
Succulent plants

>>17999914
Is this Kino?

>>18006429
Why, I suppose it is!

She's going to be the shitposting character, isn't she?

>>18007081
>call me Pyunika
Thank god.

>>17994634
>Singer
>voiced by a singer
Truly, Kino

>>18007081
>Motoki Zakuro
SOLD
O
L
D

>>18007081
>twintails
>glasses
>smug
No shit Sherlock

>>18007254
But what does kino mean?

>>18008682
木野

Will an incarnation of Bern make an appearance?

>>18010201
Obviously. Bern will be the protagonist, and her best friend too.

>>18010244
Was Hanyuu Bern? I thought Hanyuu was just Higurashi Angry Manjew

>>18010201
I sure hope so.

>>18007254
Aren’t they all singers?

>>18007081
The next Erika

Who will be the Super Paper of WTC5?

>>17994634
I already like her.

>>17994634
Hey guys, can anyone here talk me out of buying Higurashi chapters 1-5 off of the Humble Bundle? I'm stuck between getting that and just staying with my old copy of the fan translation.

>>18030271
It’s the humble bundle it’s cheap
as fuck by design

"So, what's your special power?"
"I got a shotgun."

>>18031595
Brute Violence and determination gets you a long way in WTC

I was really disappointed that this wasn't Beatrice's forward walk animation.

post your cutest WTC picture or I will pull the trigger

>>18033514

>>18033514

What was the name of that one card game with Ryukishi art and trap maids?

is it possible to play golden fantasia online with a pirated copy?

>>18033514

>>17999805
>>18000052
>>18002529
Doesn't a blue truth have to successfully establish a human as a culprit and explain a means for the crime that denies magic for it to be valid?
I just finished EP4 so i'm still not entirely sure how it works.

Also I wish to examine the body, dose kinzo have his room key on his person

>>18035084
>I just finished EP4
Get out now. There are major spoilers here.

>>17999805
/BLUE/ When the meal was prepared Kinzo's body did not appear to be dead, Leaving the cook to believe Kinzo was still alive /BLUE/

>>18034265
Leaf Fight.
>>18033514

>>17994634
Did something new happen. Who is this character?

>>18035341
She's from Haworthia.

>>18035374
Is that something new?

>>18035400
Yeah, but as far as I know it's just some music thing with character artwork.

>>18035516
It’s tied into WTC5 somehow

Upload and translation never

Why is there no video footage of Natsuko Kuwatani voice acting as Erika?

>that feel when can't even beat normal in OMK+
Man I am bad if I can't even win as Dlanor/Battler.

Any Italian seacats know if Ricordando il Passato is well pronounced?

>>18033514

>>18035879
This is extremely cute but I don't understand how their chests change sizes with the outfit switch.

>>18035887
It's an old belief that Bern has boobs. She is flat in manga and on PS3 sprites tho.

>>18035904
I guess her old sprites do look a bit busty.

>>18035904
>She is flat in manga and on PS3 sprites tho.
Wrong.

>>18035920
I guess a little.

>>18035904
Bern does have boobs more often than not.

>>18035865
I shared it with an Italian friend months ago and he said that she has a heavy Japanese accent in that song.

>>18035949
That's not really surprising, given all the engrish in the series.

>>18035955
Or the fact that she is japanese

>>18035887
The same logic applies for everyone

>>18035965
Speaking of Erika's (Jessica's) dress. Please talk me out of buying a replica from Aliexpress.

>>18035981
Get the original instead.

>>18035985
Eh, I actually think >>18035981 looks better. Less flowery and closer color scheme.

>>18035981
If you are a cute boy why not.

>>18035981
What are you going to do with it?

>>18035993
I'm not.

>>18035999
I'd just like to have it.

>>18035985
From where?

>>18035993
>tfw no futa Erika hentai doujinshi
Why even live?

>>18036028
There's no need to ruin a great 3-way lesbian relationship with dicks.

>>18036048
There's no H Erika x Dlanor either.

>>18036067
Well Dlanor would obviously be the dominating party there, so you wouldn't have futa Erika even if it existed.

Did Rosa love Maria?

>>18036076
>Dlanor would obviously be the dominating party there
Depends on the mood really. For romantic stuff sure, but for sexual stuff I think Erika would be on top.

>>18036139
Yes but Rosa had a hard time showing it.

>>18036139
Have you forgotten Rosa Musou scene?

>>18036139
She was repeatedly shown to regret the way she mistreated Maria when she realized what she had done. Rosa was treated horribly by her older siblings growing up, so it rubbed off on her and now she probably sees her younger self in Maria whenever she behaves like a child.

>>18036139

What are some of your favorite unused tracks? Here's one of mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5-sesG8xgs&list=RDs5-sesG8xgs

>>18036201
>>18036208
This is an overall theme of the game, the black which in which you pass down from person to person.

>>18036139
She definitely loved her, but she wasn't a very good parent. A better question would be whether or not Maria would have been better off in child services. (Assuming the massacre would have been avoided either way and that Rosa would have continued raising her the way she was.)

>>18036238
I prefer the version with lyrics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTHij2zyRo0

>>18036251
Eva-Beatrice sure represents a lot of different things. Eva's younger self, the Eva culprit theory, the Black Witch, the lid of the catbox, etc.

>>18036265
There's a pretty good English cover too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCk43XxCw-k

>>18036266
Reasons why EVA-Beatrice is my favorite character in Umineko, she acts as the pariah for everyones problems and sins.

>>18036283
I really liked what Episode 8 did with her. In hindsight, it makes sense that the personification of the Eva culprit theory would be an ally for Ange, who always relied on that theory for emotional support.

>>18036295
I should really read the manga sometime. I do still love Episode 8 in the VN though.

>that feel when every official Umineko shirt will be sold out forever and will never make new ones

>>18036329
If you haven't already, you NEED to read Episode 8's manga. It's pretty much the only time where an Umineko adaptation managed to fully live up to and possibly even surpass the source material. There's a bunch of changes and refinements here and there, as well as some great new original content like Confession of the Golden Witch.

>>18036413
Only thing I did reason was confession.

>>18035332
Is that an actual loli?

>>18036421
Confession is definitely the biggest new addition, but there are plenty of other changes to stuff like the Halloween party, Battler and Erika's rematch, the siege of the Golden Land, and the drowning scene.

Reminder

>>18036441
Looks around 12-14 years old.

>you will never be friends with a loli who likes Umineko
Literally zero (0) reason to keep living.

Time to show off your refined taste.

Does anyone else miss when Kyrie was a cool character? The EP7 Tea Party was so disgusting that it ruined her character for me. I always expected Rudolf to be an asshole, but I thought Kyrie was a nice person.

>>18036469
I'm fine with that. Real life lolis are a pain anyway. I'd be grateful to have any friends interested in Umineko.

>>18036478
Personally I like the theory that she didn't actually mean what she said about Ange and was just trying to make Eva sympathize with her.

Every time I choose a favorite between Higurashi and Umineko, I remember the other and change my opinion. I can't fucking choose one, they are both amazing.

>>18036478
I think there was a good amount of foreshadowing showing that they were messed up people. The Sumadera family is like the Sonozaki family but even more screwed up.

Speaking of that, it's impressive how Ryukishi makes certain characters likeable without even giving them a name or a sprite. I still remember Ange's grandfather and the guy from the convenience store after all these years.

>>18036491
I think she kind of gave up after she realized that Rudolf was dead. Or she had her gun unloaded and didn't have a chance against Eva, I can't remember. She didn't expect anyone else to be alive after all.

I don't buy the whole "Eva is a murderer that didn't get a chance" bullshit, though. Eva isn't a cold, calculating bitch that married into the family a few years ago. She wouldn't kill her nephew and nieces for money. What happened in EP3 was an accident that got out of hand.

>>18036497
They're both great in different ways, with each one having its own strengths over the other.

>>18036497
Holy shit, I didn't remember Kasai's tie. What a cool motherfucker.

>>18036497
Does that say "hannin wa dare"? I've been passively learning Japanese and didn't even remember those kanji, but as soon as I saw that I read it in my mind in a second and understood the meaning. I feel great.

Can anyone share a download link for the original Umineko sprite/background rips? I had it long ago, but I lost it. I would be really useful for shit like this: >>18036471

>>18036507
But Sonozaki family isn't screwed up at all. They are just misunderstood.

Even Shion is just an unfortunate soul.

>>18036597
They fucking killed Teppei's girlfriend, have a hidden well where they throw corpses and I'm pretty sure that they still use all those old torture devices.

Also, one of them is responsible for Krauss' financial situation and the whole moon tourism thing.

>>18036617
>Also, one of them is responsible for Krauss' financial situation and the whole moon tourism thing.

More info?

>>18036641
Read the beginning of EP5.

>>18036647
Are you being so roundabout just to badmouth the Sonozakis with lies?

>>18036589
The sprites can be found here.
https://mega.nz/#F!whc0zbIL!MDtVd1yv9M6tskI-EM632w
As for the backgrounds, I'm not sure. I ripped some for myself, but I don't know if anyone's ever uploaded them somewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7q_96FtUEU

The scene from 25:32 to 38:20 is my absolute favorite moment in the entire series. And that includes Umineko.

I love the music that starts playing when Takano and Irie talk about "the festival". It's probably my favorite track in Higurashi. It's hype as shit.

Does anyone else LOVE that part as much as I do? The transition between the Irie/Takano scene and the Sonozaki house scene is fucking beautiful.

It's amazing even with the awkward old translation.

>>18036753
The ending of Higurashi is incredibly satisfying too. I like how the villagers remember Takano fondly and expect her to return one day. And how Irie mentions Miyo and Hifumi's names in his article. That's all the old man wanted.

Does the Steam version get rid of naked Satoko? How does the sprite switching work if there isn't a new version of that sprite?

>>18036853
They replaced it with a towel sprite.

>>18036853
It's just the towel sprite. But it's alright, the new towel sprite is far cuter than the naked sprite ever was. We all know that being aroused by stark nakedness means you're an animal.

>>18036441
Yep, 100% natural loli with absolutely flat chest.

>>18036441

>>18036875
I mean the original. Did they remove it entirely just so it fits with the new ones or is it still there?

Speaking of the new sprites, Rika looks like a complete idiot. In the original sprite (and Alchemist too I guess) you can tell that she's fucking with you. You may believe what she's saying, but once you know about her real personality you can SEE it behind that fake smile. But the Mangagamer version makes her look genuinely innocent, which is really weird. It's even hard to believe she's really crafty during the club games. She looks way too "moe".

>>18036441

>>18036885
She's really cute in that picture. And kind of looks autistic too.

>you will never have any kind of relationship with a cute loli

>>18036895
It's because her arms aren't behind her back like in all the other sprites

>>18036895
Fuck me, I actually prefer the original.

Am I doomed to never want to play Higurashi with good sprites? I watched almost all of an LP of the unmodded VNs on YouTube and I got used to them. Now that I've finally bought the games I'm unsure whether or not I should patch them at all.

>>18036879
>>18036885
>>18036900
Where did you find this? Is she Russian? Slavs are the best lolis.

>>18036879
Tiny budding breasts > Totally flat

>>18036895
I don't see it. All three faces look identical to me.

>>18036904
What kind of relationship are you hoping for anon?

>>18036923
Meant for >>18036901

>>18036617
The guy who scammed Krauss was named Sonezaki, not Sonozaki. I think it's supposed to be a joke reference or something

>>18036907
>with good sprites
Good in what sense? The originals have more charm, were drawn by the author of the story and feel like a real work of art. They may be cheap and weird-looking, but they are interesting to look at. The new ones are too generic and empty looking. They are still good, though.

I wouldn't say that the old sprites are "objectively worse" in an artistic sense. For me it's the opposite. They have a very unique and recognizable style.

Look at this smug bitch.

>>18036932
That is like the best original sprite ever, what is the worst original sprite ever?

>>18036914
you're blinded by the whole of the expression and not the details
namely in rika's case the eyebrows and mouth shape are extremely important to conveying the fact that she isn't genuine and that's clearly different from the steam sprites were it would essentially be completely genuine

>>18036942
Whatever you say. Still seems identical to me.

>>18036910
I found this in group of Russian speaking Umineko fans, photos were taken during anime convention in Novosibirsk.

>>18036942
Rika literally is genuine. She isn't faking a smile when she is with her friends. She might switch between two modes of being but that doesn't mean that one of them isn't genuine.

>>18036913
This is another example. You can see the autism in Maria's face. The new Maria is a bit too expressive in my opinion.

And this is not a meme or anything. She is clearly intended to be autistic. Remember the whole "Maria-chan doesn't get jokes and takes everything literally" in the first two episodes?

Satoko's preteen tits were also an intentional design choice. It's been scientifically proven that girls who are exposed to signs of male untrustworthiness (namely absent father) develop earlier. Also, she is only naked in the original sprites. It doesn't make sense for her to hold onto the towel when she's going fucking insane and trying to escape from a murderer with an axe.

>>18036974
She doesn't laugh once in the entire series. All her smiles are forced.

>>18036939
I love all of them, but the weirdest ones are probably Ooishi (kinda looks like some sort of cat) and Tomitake (looks like Jiminy Cricket). They are not meant to be attractive men or anything, so I really like how weird they look. Irie is kind of in the middle and Akasaka is an actually attractive dude.

>>18036901
Huh, so there's actually a legit explanation for Satoko's breasts. Pretty neat. But wouldn't that same absent father thing also apply to Maria even more so?

>>18037044
>>18036980

>>18036507
The most forgotten When They Cry character is that one diplomat that got caught fucking loli sex slaves in Matsuribayashi but they couldn't do anything about it because of his diplomatic immunity (Sakutaro?).

It was a really cool scene where widower Akasaka kicked the asses of a bunch of yakuzas and somehow managed to arrest the guy. I don't remember the details. I wish that scene was in the anime.

>>18037044
Maria is two years younger than Satoko. I think she's just wearing really baggy clothes that make it look like she's got tits.

>>18036853
I bought from MangaGamer but even that one has a towel for the original sprite.

>>18037096
I think she gets rid of it at some point in the old Mangagamer release. Is that the new one? If it's really gone I refuse to buy their shit.

>>18037107
This is the newest release. Take a wild guess why that decision was made then go back to jerking off to the original.

>>18037091
>loli sex slaves
Ryukishi really knows his shit. Rember when Eva threatened Ange in the EP3 ??? Tea Party saying that with all her money and power she could arrange for her to be kidnapped, get her limbs chopped off and be forced to spend the rest of her life sucking dicks as a human sex doll in a rich guy's basement?

Ryukishi knows so much about fucked up fetishes it's ridiculous.

>>18037096
I don't remember anything about it being censored. Are you sure she doesn't get naked later on in that scene?

>>18037126
There's no way they would have been able to show a naked underage girl in their release, regardless of the circumstances. I think the only reason Ryukishi ever got away with it in the first place was because of how unknown he was at the time. You'd never see him pull something like that nowadays.

You will never see a naked Maria sprite in Ryukishi's art style.

>>18037150
This is right before Keiichi gets pushed off, there's not much more to it. And this MangaGamer release is the newest one, same as the one sold on Steam only I bought this from MangaGamer's website. Same game and version.

>>18037096
>>18037174
Thank god I didn't buy it. This was supposed to be an improved version of Higurashi with a good translation, but now they go and pull shit like this. I guess I'll keep reading the old release until I get good at Japanese. I refuse to support censorship, paedophobia or whatever with my money.

I wonder why they do this now, though. They didn't censor anything when they originally "translated" Higurashi.

>>18037126
You sound very hostile.

>>18037107
MangaGamer said that they had to remove it because of Valve's regulations, which isn't surprising at all. I would have been more surprised if the sprite was still there

>>18037094
>I think she's just wearing really baggy clothes that make it look like she's got tits.
She's straight up got a corset on. If anything, I should assume she's even bigger than she looks. Either that or Rosa makes her pad her chest.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/310360/discussions/0/620703493325576645/

How can people like this exist?

is Umineko a deconstruction of media?

>>18037218
Come to think of it, how did Ryukishi even get away with it in the first place? Doesn't Japan have laws against showing uncensored genitals? Or was Ryukishi's art just considered so poor that it didn't count?

>>18036974
This>>18037000
She loves her friends, but a large point in the series is that she is very justifiably and deeply depressed. She is not happy.

Excuse me but, can the pedos fuck off of here please?

>>18037242
I don't think a loli slit counts as uncensored. If you could see her clitoris or something, though, he wouldn't have been able to release it without censor bars.

>>18037250
Intolerant wastes of space like you are the ones that should get out of here. You are insane.

>>18037269
I'm intolerant of your intolerance.

>>18037269
Hmmm, let's see what the mods have to say about it okay? And every single one of your other posts, now fuck off.

What did he mean by this?

>>18037217
I'm against censorship as well but something like this was necessary to get it sold and to not start an unnecessary shitstorm.
I can live with Satoko holding a towel for her sprite, I read this for the story. I can accept this. If you can't, that's your choice.

>>18037242
>Doesn't Japan have laws against showing uncensored genitals?
The law only prohibits uncensored "obcene material". The wording is really vauge, but showing genitals is usually fine if it isn't in porn. There are plenty of manga that show dicks uncensored, like Dragon Ball and Berserk

What did she mean by this?

Can we have a nice discussion without intolerant assholes derailing the thread because they don't like someone else's opinions?

>>18037301
Without ****, it cannot be seen.

>>18037316
Why do you care so much virgin? You sound angry.

>>18037316
Where do you think you are?

What did she mean by this?

>>18037285
I didn't post anything against the rules. You are the one starting shit and insulting people.

A lot of the "good" posts in this thread are mine. I wouldn't want a good poster to go away just because they have a controversial opinion.

What did she mean by THIS?

>>18037345
You seem very interested in underage children tho
You weirdo. Don't make this thread into one of yours shitty loli threads. Fuck off

>>18037291
>Jessica's face
>"Jooji such a creepy bastard holy shit"

The thing about Satoko's nude sprite in the original version is that it's not really intended to be sexual at all. Yes, she's naked. But it's really more of a statement of just how desperate she is in that situation. It's meant to shock you, as you see her stripped totally bare out in the open where anyone can see her, so distraught that she doesn't even try to cover herself up. It's a raw, animalistic depiction that shows just how far gone she is.

If all Ryukishi wanted to do was give us some fanservice, he could have easily snuck it in during the happy slice of life segments, where it would have been more fitting. Just have some cliche scene like Keiichi walking in on Satoko changing or something. It would have been so easy to do, but he didn't. Not even once. Even during the scene where Keiichi finds Satoko in the bath, they STILL don't use her naked sprite, even though Keiichi definitely would have had a much clearer view of her naked body than he does during the bridge scene.

>>18037428
I agree about the nude sprite not intending to be sexual, I believe that nudity in itself isn't necessarily sexual. And I also agree how it shows her desperation and panic. But the change in this new release is necessary to allow it to be sold in the overseas market and to get people to read it without having to deal with the sprite of a nude child character showing up. Not a lot of people will agree with you or I about the points you made, that's just the reality of things.
It's a shame that there has to be censorship at all, but there isn't a choice in this situation, and I'd rather more people have the chance to read it with a minor edit than to not read it at all.

>>18037458
Oh, I totally understand why it had to be changed. Even without Japan's censorship laws, you can't get away with something like showing a naked underage girl over here. You can try to explain why it's justified all you want, in the end it's still going to be taken sexually. Even I can't help but find Satoko's nude sprite a bit sexy, despite understanding the real intentions behind it and knowing that I shouldn't view it in an erotic way.

So, which Beato exactly did we see in Episode 8?

Ep1-4 Beato died in Episode 5.
We get Moetrice in Episode 6, she gets her memories back, marries Battler.
Then she gets a funeral at the start of Episode 7.

So, who is the Beato that we see then?

Where can I find the original Higurashi sprites/backgrounds?

>>18036257
>A better question would be whether or not Maria would have been better off in child services.
Difficult question. Japanese child services is known for being bad, and I think there's a 99% chance Maria would end up being bullied just like she is in school, and mistreated by the workers. So she might just end up being abused 24/7 instead.

I think the happiest outcome for Maria is if Rosa were to get therapy, or if Rosa could find a good man or even a friend whom she could trust that could help look after Maria from time to time, but that would also be difficult because 80s japan and Rosa's severe trust issues.

anyone with a webm of the scene where satoko fucking dies

>>18036257
watch higurashi for the answer

higurashi was better than umineko
bern and erika were the best characters
shit ending
bye
t. just finished reading 10 minutes ago

>>18035981
Don't, it will look even worse than this photo, which already is pretty shitty chinese construction.

Get a doll sized version or learn to sew it yourself and put it on one of those blank waifu dolls.

>>18038599
>finished 10 minutes ago

That's when we know you didn't understood shit, anon.

Umineko is one of those fuckeries you need a reread to understand just how great it is overall.

But again, it takes a crazy person to reread 180 hours of VN just to actually appreciate their true quality completely, so you could just go for the mango, which even have some cool new scenes like the Confession. Unfortunately you will have to deal with the whole thing spoonfeeding you, unlike in an actual reread, where you would rediscover everything by yourself and basically read a completely different story.

>>18038599
>shit ending
Rude.

>>18040182
After playing the game nearly a year ago, I am significantly more into the series than I was when I just finished and going through it again just magnified that.

>>18040227
Tbh, that's Umineko in a nutshell for most of 4chan

First it challenges you and gets your full curiosity and theory crafting to levels your never imagined you actually had.

Second, it frustrates you to no end, to the point where you just either drop it some times before finishing, or rush through, or continue theorizing in suffer, until eventually, regardless your path was, you feel betrayed and unsatisfied by something regardless of your likings of the epilogues or not, even hating the work as a whole in some cases.

Third, you eventually either reread it or read the manga sometime later and declare it a masterpiece when things perfectly connects and fall into place if you just try a bit more reading into them with attention.

I can't even count how many people said the very same words in a way ever since Umineko ended, seriously.

It seems at least with 4chan, this was mostly the case, from what I could tell.

Even I was a hater at one point, but here I am, now holding it as my favorite mystery work ever.

>>18040227
It's been over 5 years for me. Something about Umineko never lets you go.

>>18040608
>>18040634
I just regret the day I finish consuming all the fan content that has been made I can read/watch/listen to.

Despite having finished both anime series, I never finished reading the last arc of Higurashi and I only got to something like the midpoint of the fourth arc of Umineko. Actually, I'm lying when I said that I was reading them, I was being a cheapskate and watching a YouTube LP of both. Anyway, now that I actually own both VNs and I still have my notes from when I watched the reading of the bits that I've seen, how should I continue to experience these VNs? It's been at least 5 years, so I'm tempted to just start from scratch. Is that wise? If so, then I'm not so sure what to do with my notes.

>>18040880
If you remember it well enough then I'd say just start from where you left off.

>>18040880
You could just try reading the first episodes to see how much you remember.

>>18040880
If you already have the first few episodes of Umineko fresh in your memory, I will suggest that you start off around where you last left off. Re-reading the first two episodes can really be a slog because of how much time is spent introducing you to things you're already familiar with and before things start getting interesting.

>>18040880
I would have started from the beginning.
You can never underestimate how shitty your memory can be.

>>18040880

You're not going to remember the small details after 5 years. Start from scratch.

>>18040880
Start from the beginning, even if you remember some stuff reading it again will make you catch stuff you might have missed.

Post your favorite Umineko remix/cover/arrange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-UJzH4DHYw

Here are some good english covers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6igbG4gtO0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm59o2dp8qU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A5lNMxYQHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCk43XxCw-k

As for remixes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_nkwV8jYlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqrNwprVK6o
https://mega.nz/#!Y0NgyaxJ!e45ABcBephRpSuyUHqo1D4-XAAJDFHL-yEDzq6C6DhQ (taken off youtube years ago)

>>18041528
Meant for>>18041448

>>18041530
Don't you know that you can delete your own posts?

>>17994634
Holy shit, why didn't anyone tell me about the PS3ification patch for Umineko? It totally beats out the original Witch Hunt patch and Steam release of the game.

I noticed that it includes episodes 5-8 in the menu, are they translated?

>>18041654
I'm assuming you mean the full PS3 port and not the Umitweak patch. They haven't finished Chiru. Last I checked they're currently working on Episode 5. That thing in the menu is just a preview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=938ZxXGICI0

The reason you probably didn't hear about it is probably because it's not that widely used. For one thing, it's harder to get ahold of and get working than the other versions. Also, some people don't like the new translation they made for it, while others just straight up hate any and all changes the PS3 version made to the original.

>>18040608
>tfw I never really theorized anything and just put my brain on the backburner when reading through the first time because I just assumed everything was because lolmagic
I just never thought this shit could realistically happen, glad to be proven wrong.

>tfw the ai no shiren with english subs got deleted from youtube

>>18041448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65DSNGo3Y_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e__799JrG40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHiDcRl4c7U
Third one isn't that fantastic but I'm still fond of it.

>>18042133
You can just look in the description of this video for the English lyrics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z27pIIOnZlU

>>18042133
Feels good to be learning Japanese, senpai.

>>18042275
>>18042286
I'm just sad because I lost the nostalgia factor for that specific video, likely permanently.

>>18037514
I always assumed Episode 8 Beato was Chick Beato with her old memories restored, and that the funeral in Episode 7 was for the original Beato.

Swimsuit Rika with tanlines.

>>18043029
cute

What to do when Chiester keeps cancer spamming her arrow?

>>18043126
Depends. Some character's have good countermeasures for that. For example, Lambda's black hole move will block arrows for several seconds while also pulling her closer.

>>18043150
I'm playing Ange and Bern. Ange is bad against her because her projectiles have so much start up tho and it's tough to get close because chiester has better aerials.

>>18043163
Bern's got some of the best aerial maneuverability in the game. You can probably get in close with that.

Big fat cat tats.

Are there any decent Umineko LPs outside Jokrono and Narnith?

>>18044375
could be bigger and fatter

>>18047056
You're right. What was I thinking?

>>18037144
>Rember when Eva threatened Ange in the EP3 ??? Tea Party saying that with all her money and power she could arrange for her to be kidnapped, get her limbs chopped off and be forced to spend the rest of her life sucking dicks as a human sex doll in a rich guy's basement?

>>18047310

>>18047339
>becoming a prostitute for money
Reasonable
>somehow becoming a quadruple amputee as well
Calm down /d/

>>18045484
Newt is pretty good. He can be really fucking stubborn, though. He loved the shit out of Higurashi, but kind of missed the point of the story for being a massive Mionfag. If only Mion, her love interest and her sister had survived at the end, he would have considered it a happy ending. He didn't give much of a shit about Rena or any other character that ever wronged Mion in some way.

Thanks to his Umineko LP I realized that the ending of EP5 (before the Tea Party) is probably the best in the series.

For some reason, I never understood Battler's "it's all useless, isn't it?" line, why he repeats it a couple of times and Natsuhi's over the top reaction to it. I just assumed that he said it for no reason, since it's his catchphrase. And that Natsuhi was surprised because Battler got fed up with the scheme and decided to defend her at the very end.

But after rewatching that part, it's really obvious that Battler is saying his catchphrase with the voice of the man from 19 years ago and that Natsuhi is terrified at the realization that Battler was the creepy guy on the phone. The bomb detonates at that time, killing the people that faked their deaths in the first twilight and ending the tale. I don't know why I just assumed that piece Battler was defending Natsuhi, when meta-Battler is fucking dead at that point and can't control his piece.

I still think that Sayo is the person on the phone during the first call, because it happened a few weeks before the conference (I'm pretty sure she bribed the relatives during the conference itself) and Natsuhi said that the voice sounded like that of a middle school boy or a girl pretending to be a guy. She was conviced that the person was male when they introduced themselves as the baby from 19 years ago and Battler started doing the voice.

I wish the PS3 version didn't use Battler's voice actor for the first phone call. The description of his voice doesn't make any sense. Yet another proof that Umineko is a better experience if you play it as the author intended, without any patches or "updates". At least for the first time.

>>18045484
I liked Mr250.

>>18047310
>>18047339
Why did Ange have such a prideful and defiant attitude all the time even though she was prepared to kill herself? If she really was so depressed that she didn't care about her life, why didn't she become a stripper or a whore so she could have some fun? Why did she care so much about her pride, to the point that she didn't mind dying a virgin?

She surrendered to the bullies in the past and agreed to confess that she's a worthless shit in front of the entire class. I wonder what other humiliating things they forced her to do. I bet she did it all willingly because she had lost all her self-esteem and it was easier for her to submit, think of herself as worthless furniture and enjoy her own humiliation.

>>18036753
I completely agree. I love Higurashi.

>>18047518
Careful, your fetishes are showing.

>>18047518
>you will never force Ange to wipe the floor with her bush
>you will never force Ange to dance naked and sing about how pathetic she is
Literally zero (0) reasons to live.

>>18047725
He regularly posts shitty fantasies about Ange.

>>18048354
I see that now.
>>18048294

What if we're all fictional characters and there's a higher level of meta above us?

Which one of us is best girl?

>>18048462
You are my favorite husbando anon.

>>18048294
I'd just, you know, touch her boobs our something, but you do you.

>>18048462
>What if
>if

>>18048462

How can WTC5 even surpass the meta depth of Umineko btw, I wonder

IRL real time writing? That's the only frontier he didn't quite went through yet (real time interaction is possible in theaters, and he is a theater-going person himself from the start).

How would that even work in a VN? At least in the meta way Umineko was structured (otherwise, it could be solved with some cool interactive elements).

I'm having this impression Umineko structure just can't be surpassed in any front I can imagine, only replicated at best

>>18049516
>How can WTC5 even surpass the meta depth of Umineko
Does anyone really want it to?

>How would that even work in a VN?
He did talk about considering a different medium for it, and Haworthia being a CD is a sort of scrapped idea for WTC5. There's so little information on WTC5, it's possible it might not be a VN in the end. Or perhaps not just a VN.

I'm the Batt(l)er. I've come to purify the gameboard.

>>18049550
Hm, I do undertand the anticipation however.

Ryukishi is known for always either trying to go a level beyond with his previous premises in every aspect of it (WTC series as a whole), deconstruct major themes and/or subvert them and the storytelling and presentation per se (Umineko towards Higurashi, Higanbana towards Umineko and Trianthology towards Higanbana) or just do something completely fucking different out of nowhere (Rose Guns Days, When The Game Ends and Haworthia).

But indeed, I started wondering the medium this time aroujd as well.

People always post about Umineko music but what are some of your favorite Higurashi tracks, either because of them being actually good or the atmosphere they are used it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8uwxDihWcU

>>18049694
Who's got the best laugh, Beatrice or Zacharie?

>>18049749
This one's my favorite. God episode 6 was a wild ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgfxMGBa9Ks

>>18049749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rScCN6XvjBU

>>18049749
I love this track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or08Hb8tJuA

>>18049749
It's just that while Higurashi music was all nice and well placed, Umineko's were mostly spectacular for every single scene they shown up with (and when dissonance happens, the execution is chillingly justifiable, much like Higurashi and Higanbana), and some tracks even were absolute masterpieces of the Trance genre for any person who actually listen to them passionately.

We like to discuss them more because Umineko's soundtrack is just so memorable overall.

But! As for your question, I know is mainstream as fuck, but I'll go with You (that music just represents Higurashi so well).

>>18049261
Underrated post.

>>18049749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoFAbnFETtI

I like this one because it fits perfectly with Keeichi going nuts and deciding to kill Teppei

>>18045484
Asking this but for Higurashi.

>>18050248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL0LQC5xSpo&list=PL1BA07D497C85855F

>>18050262
I would have preferred commentary since I want to hear peoples opinions and theories in stuff like Higurashi, but thanks though.

>>18050248
Fuandon.

>>18050387
Seconded.

>>18049749
I already did: >>18036753

>>18050363
I was just joking, no need to thank me

How good is When the Game Ends?
The reviews sound good, but it seems so stupid

>>18051100
Anything and everything Ryukishi produces is good.

>>18051138
When you put it like that, I have to admit I'm yet to find something actually bad from him (the closest to bad was Iwaihime thus far, and even that was pretty fine in the big picture).

>>18051437
I haven't read it yet, but apparently the PS4 port of Iwaihime was partly rewritten based on the criticism of the PC version. Maybe it's better

Why is Deep Blue Jeer associated with Erika when it's literally the man from 19 years ago's theme? What's the deal with that title?

>>18052036
Is that a sieef reference

>>18052060
It's alberto-sama

So whats up with the remaining 3 chapters of Higurashi from mangagamers? At this rate we will never get to read ch6-8. It kind of sucks after the disaster that the Ps2 version with no voices and poor tl has left on me.

>>18052375
I'm sure Mangagamer will release Tsumihoroboshi, Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi on Steam on the the 24th for Christmas.

The actual.

Literal.

Lolikidcuteness of Maria!

>>18051138
This.

>>18053821

>>18040880
I also never finished Higurashi, still had the last 2 arcs to go, despite me really enjoying it and getting into it. I was even posting my thoughts and what I thought was going on during the story in these threads earlier in the year, but after my computer died and I was left without internet for a couple of weeks, I never got back around to finishing them.

I was too late for the Umineko theory train since I started after Ep 6 and everyone was shitposting about the solution, so it was fun being able to think about Higurashi while not knowing the answer. But Takano is obviously the baddie, it was pretty clear from the second and third arcs.

>>18040608
You forgot to mention how it gives you mystery super powers, allowing you to call nearly every plot twist in mystery games before they happen because you're so deeply familiar with mystery tropes, structure, and deliberate departure from struture.

You also learn that searching too much for the truth is bad, except when it isn't, but actually IT IS

I had a dream about umineko.
Basically, 9 animated movies and an update for ougon were announced for 2019. Seemed like the original Beatrice became a playable character and Featherine appeared in one of the stories.
But then I had to wake up.

>>18054972
What if real life is just a dream? What if we're all split personalities of the same person? What if that cute southern girl we talked to is actually secretly going around robbing our friends of their individual attributes?

Is the Higurashi adaptation any decent?

>>18055068
Depends on who you ask.
I'd say absolutely not.

>>18055068
>the Higurashi adaptation
>the
Which one?

>>18055105
There's multiple?

>>18055111
Anime and live action I think he's referring too

>>18055068
Plenty find the anime a weak adaptation of the original source, but plenty also enjoy it for what it is. If you're watching it expectation a faithful adaptation of the original source, don't get your hopes up. If you're watching it with low expectations and just want to see murder and insanity, feel free to give it a shot.

>>18055259
To be fair, if you're watching any VN adaptation and hoping it's faithful and catches all the nuances of the original source, you're going to be disappointed.

>>18055068
The anime is a terrible adaptation and will spoil the story for you. It's enjoyable on its own, but not worth it if you didn't read the novel. If you did, it's still a shitty adaptation that gets the tone of the story completely wrong, but at least you don't notice the lack of characterization because you already know all the details from the novel.

>>18055111
>>18055200
The manga exists too. It's pretty good.

>>18055292
Pretty much. Higurashi's anime glorifies the violence and glosses over the rest when it doesn't outright leave out certain scenes. If one is the type to enjoy the mindless fun of hearing screaming lolis and watching graphic torture being animated, then Higurashi's anime has that. Of course, there's far more to Higurashi than those type of scenes, but that's also the main appeal of it for some people. I don't encourage watching the anime adaptation, but I can't discourage watching it either. Unlike Umineko, unless it's DameDame subs.

>>18055338
I already played the VN, I was thinking watching the adaptation might be a change of pace instead of replaying the VN right now.

>>18055346
I will also recommend the manga if you want to re-experience something that's faithful. If not, go ahead with the anime adaptation. If you enjoy it anyway, that's good. If not, you could always make fun of it and have fun in that way. It was made by Studio DEEN, so expect some QUALITY. But I will praise its soundtrack.

>>18055366
I know what I am getting into when it comes to DEEN. I do hear a lot that the adaptation does remove a lot of what Ryukishi was going for with the human part of Higurashi and instead really focusing on the murder/insanity scenes, it can't be that bad can it?

>>18055372
The first arc is covered in 4 episodes, as well as the second. Why not give it a chance and watch to find out?

>>18055388
Yeah I think i might give at least Onikakushi-Hen a try.

>>18040608
I'm the turbogoat who made the ultimate goat shitposting picture a few years ago and you are 100% right
After reading the manga and watching the narnith LP all the things I found boring my first time playing it like Maria/Ange bullying and all Yasu scenes made me cry
Also Hope made me cry when I heard it again for the first time after not listening to it in a few years, just like You did
Umineko might have a few flaws here and there but I seriously doubt anything will ever top it for me

>>18055441
>Umineko might have a few flaws here and there but I seriously doubt anything will ever top it for me
Couldn't have said it better myself.

>>18055441
nai, heiguraishei was bttr.

>>18055441
>first time reading umineko
enough of this ange and maria bullshit, show me people getting murdered
>any yasu/maria/ange scene during reread
battlercryingwithhandinpocket.jpeg

>everyone rereading Umineko sees Yasu as a deeply tragic figure
>I still see her as an irresponsible moron whose selfish actions got tons of innocent people killed

>>18055540
>innocent
I mean yeah she ended up murdering a bunch of people and that shouldn't be forgotten, but you can hardly call any of the Ushiromiyas innocent except for the cousins maybe

Oh and Gohda

>>18055555
That's like, four innocent people, my dude.

>>18055497
Even my first time playing I was asking for more gameboard during Episode 4 while crying at most Ange/Maria scenes in the same Episode.

>>18055540
She is an idiot for giving a bunch of even bigger idiots the tools to commit the sin they did. I can't put complete blame on anyone really, bad situations and bad upbringings all clashed together into a bad tragedy. It's not like blaming anymore matters in the end anyways, what happened happened.

>>18055573
>She is an idiot for giving a bunch of even bigger idiots the tools to commit the sin they did.
And Genji and Kinzo are also idiots for giving her the tool to blow everything to smithereens with in the first place

>>18055555
Reminder that all the accomplices only helped Yasu murder people in the fanfiction message bottles Yasu and Tohya made and they might have refused to help Yasu in Rokkenjima prime

>>18055585
Kinzo didn't give a fuck about anyone that wasn't related to Beatrice in any way so he doesn't care everyone dies and Genji has shown time and time again he is an idiot for turning a blind eye to almost everything Kinzo and Yasu have ever done. One could argue one of his biggest mistakes and yet the one time he went against Kinzo was keeping Yasu's survival a secret. For all we know Yasu could have had a good life if he was raised by the Ushiromiyas post-accident, but we will never know about this.

Also this reminds me of something, in iLion's Kakera, did Kyria/Rudolf ever learn about the bomb and if so, how did they find out? I guess it really doesn't matter since the entire Kakera was cut off after Lion got taken out.

>>18055608
>did Kyria/Rudolf ever learn about the bomb and if so
Of course they did, they wouldn't have bothered murdering everyone if not for the bomb. Kinzo told them about it.

>>18055615
Kinzo is a fucking madman then, moreso than previously thought.

I secretly haven't read the second half of Umineko. Occasionally browsing these threads is such a fun and dangerous activity.

>>18055761
I still need to read 7 and 8 but I'm in the process of re-reading everything leading up to the final parts.

>>18055346
Read the manga if you want a good adaptation. Watch the anime if you want a nice soundtrack.

You may find the anime pretty decent, but don't let that fool you. It's because you read the VN first and already know all the characters like the palm of your hand. Characters like Irie, Ooishi and Tomitake have no backstory in the anime. And Shion's motive makes no sense because they never say that she was originally Mion.

Also, the second arc spoils part of the fifth arc and also spoils the fact that there is something bizarre going on with Rika. Right at the beginning, they show you a flashforward of Rika killing herself, which makes you think that it happened in the second arc and makes everything feel edgy and nonsensical, since you don't know the context. I mean, a little girl killing herself with a knife? Seriously?

Some of the most memorable scenes in the novel are either missing or so badly adapted that they make you laugh instead. The way Keiichi goes nuts and throws away the axe when he finds Rika's dead body is actually hilarious. Oh, and his dad is now some boring faceless man with no personality.

>>18055540
>innocent people
She had more than enough reason to hate the siblings and their spouses, which are all terrible people. Natsuhi is slightly more decent, but she is responsible for destroying Yasu's dick and turning him into a weak, genderless faggot that can't even jerk off. She is the reason Yasu wants to die in the first place.

The servants are responsible for allowing Kinzo to raise his daughter as a literal fairy tale character so he could keep her in a giant cage and have sex with her. The guy is literally Joseph Fritzl. They are also responsible for saving the baby, having him live as a castrated freak, raising him as a girl and selecting him as a servant so he can be bullied by Natsuhi and the older servants. They did all this shit just so Kinzo could have his redemption and die in peace.

Then we have the cousins. Jessica is the daughter of the woman Yasu hates the most, so she can't have her revenge without indirectly hurting her. George is a jealous beta nerd that will probably kill himself or become a hikikomori if his perfect waifu commits suicide or turns out to be a fucking lying eunuch. Maria is a turbo autist abused by her mother, so she will grow up with emotional problems on top of being socially inept. Battler is a liar that made Yasu wait for him until she ended up in that situation, and then came back laughing as if nothing happened.

Without Battler's stupid promise, Yasu would have quit her job sooner, moved to the city and found a normal boyfriend. A person that would make her feel loved without acting like a desperate faggot that can't live without his perfect waifu. A person that would try to have sex with her, find out that something is wrong and tell her that it's not a big deal, instead of being a "perfect gentleman" that won't touch his girlfriend after two whole years.

Yasu had a massive inferiority complex after being bullied for a decade by her employers and coworkers. Staying in that island waiting for Battler was a terrible mistake. She got into a bunch of relationships with people that only loved her fake personas, found out about her physical issues without telling anybody and got access to a fucking bomb that could end her problems at any time. It's all Genji's fault for being loyal and professional to the point of being sick in the head.

>>18055602
>>18055602
The only accomplices that knew what was REALLY going on were Genji, Nanjo (halfway through the crime) and Rosa (EP2). The others were clueless and thought they would get gold by helping stage a murder with fake bodies.

The stories may be fanfiction in Ange's world, but they exist as real possibilities in the sea of fragments. That's why the pieces can't act out of character in Beatrice's gameboard.

mfw we will never get to have this tl-ed
https://vndb.org/v37#main

>>18056058
I want to adopt Maria and live off her autism bux. We could spend all day playing and cuddle at night.

>you will never sleep on Lion Land with Maria

>>18056128
Maria は cute! Cute! Hella cute! Incredibly cute! Hecka cute! So cute! The heckish cuteness of Maria-chan! Maria is hella cute! Maria は hellerino cuta! Cuta! Lewd!

Actually, I don't think Maria is that cute. 45 and Cornelia are cuter.

Do characters in the meta EVER sleep?

>>18057063
Not thinking = sleeping/dead in the meta world

>>18056712
Don't lewd the cute!

Where can I find that one crossover manga? The one where Mion and the others get lost in the forest and end up in Rokkenjima somehow.

http://www.animemaru.com/next-installment-of-when-they-cry-series-to-be-drawn-entirely-by-child/

How do I install Episode 8? I'm getting error's from Nicoblog's release, and animebytes has a clusterfuck of installation instructions/releases so I don't know which order they go in.

Is there really no full-on english PS3 release of Chiru? Reading the PS3 version of Eps 1-4 really increased my enjoyment of the series. And I really don't wanna resort to having to use the steam version due to those shitty sprites

"Were you waiting for the new When They Cry? Too bad ! I'm enjoying my royalties with my own 3D Rika ! Nipah~"

The fuck is this?

>>18057868
>shitty sprites
You can just use the originals. There is an option to switch between them.

If you already got used to the PS3 version, I wouldn't recommend reading a different version for Chiru. The change must be quite jarring.

>>18057868
What PS3 version did you read?

There is a PATCH for the ORIGINAL novel that replaces everything with the PS3 assets. And there is also the original Witch Hunt translation patch that is practically perfect.

And then, there is a separate program called Umineko Project that basically EMULATES the actual PS3 version (some scenes turn into shit and the translation has a few problems). As far as I know, the Chiru episodes didn't get this "treatment" yet.

It sounds like you read the latter. If that's really the case, you might be having problems trying to install the ORIGINAL version of Chiru because you need to change the language settings to Japanese (you can change it back after installing the game).

It's the only reason I can think of for why you would have problems installing Chiru but not the previous game. You must have played EP1-4 with that Umineko Project thing.

post a saddest umineko song
you can't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VghsnPpVz3g

>>18058365
Tsubasa, why?

>>18059284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FAsbUm0hIQ

I still can't believe we might get more erika soon in the extra umineko episode or in WTC5

>>18059332
What more would you want to see from Erika/her cameo?

>>18059332
I know, I'm so happy!

>>18059385
more bullying

What ground is left to cover in EP9?

>>18059445
>evil

Hanyuu just came!

>>18059472
>rape is not evil

>>18059793
The man spent 20 years lamenting and trying for be forgive for that crime.

>>18059798
>implying is something that can be forgiven
He should have killed himself then.

>I really should be working on higurashi 6, but I'm in too deep on this other project and don't want to switch gears...

So what the hell is up with MangaGamer? Is it just a thing that you're allowed to work on whatever project you want with no regard to ongoing episodic releases? Are there no project deadlines, or is it just that no one cared enough to set one for Hou?

Higgy got put up on Steam Greenlight over a half decade ago, I'm starting to worry that I might fucking die before all of it's actually rereleased.

>>18060374
Well maybe it works in the big picture

>>18060374
The translation was finished a LONG time ago. It's just the programmer slowing things down.

And yet, even after all this time, the game will be released full of typos.

Celebrating the last night of Hanukkah with Bernakstel!

>>18060570
*Bernkastel

>>18059284
>>18059313
OOOOH ANIMA EFFIMERA

>>18059284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtP96_AxZ2E

Does this count even if it didn't play in the VN?

Because it is certainly the "saddest umineko song".

>>18058516
>>18058492
Yeah, I started off with the original that replaced everything w/ ps3 assets and found out about the latter after after I reached ep 4.

Shame they haven't finished 5-8 yet; I managed to fix Chiru and get it running with ps3 assets, but it feels like such a downgrade.

>>18057868
Wait, you are still halfway through Umineko? Get the hell out of here before you get spoiled.

There is a forum where you can discuss Umineko and other 07Expansion works. I think you should go there instead of trying (and failing) to avoid spoilers here.

Where could I buy a Sakutarou plushie?

>>18057982
He's so metrosexual

>>18057982
Can't blame the man.

I've heard complaints about how young Kinzo is nothing like old Kinzo. But I actually think they are pretty similar.

Old Kinzo was only a ridiculous caricature in Yasu’s writings and Natsuhi's study illusion. He was probably a bit senile and did bizarre things, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't as fucking crazy as people believe.

What do you guys think? Was the real Kinzo completely obsessed with his "magic research" or was he relatively normal until Natsuhi and Krauss turned his ghost into a raving madman to explain why he didn't want to come out?

>>18057982
She isn't even that cute.

>>18061245
I think young Kinzo being nothing like the old Kinzo is how you'd want the story to go.

I mean Kinzo didn't exactly live a normal life and you'd expect normal people to change as they age anyways. Old Kinzo being crazy and obsessed with magic research isn't something that I'd find objectionable, given the circumstances.

What did Kyrie try to say to Eva? Is it never really delved into or is it like what Gendo said the Ritsuko in Eva where there is subtle hints in previous scenes that reveal what was actually said? Has anybody ever bothered to guess at what she said?

>>18061282
'suck my balls kiddo'

>>18061245
EP7 Alternate Kinzo shouldn’t be ignored in the discussion of Kinzo’s character. From here we are at least shown that if Lion isn’t dead to him:

-Kinzo doesn’t go full occult crazy.

-Kinzo doesn’t remodel his room and lock everyone out of his world.

-Kinzo warms up abit and is just a strict grandfather.

Arguably, if Lion was (known to be) alive, Kinzo wouldn’t go crazy in his mixture of guilt and saddness. Seems like he even slightly takes notice of his family after mellowing out.

On the other hand, Kinzo was always a selfish asshole that would devote his life to the people he actually loved and completely ignore his real wife and kids. He didn't seem to care about how he was hurting his kids by being a cold, scary father.

>>18061320
If Beatrice didn't die, Kinzo would probably have divorced his wife after becoming super rich and buying the treasure island. Then he would introduce her as his new wife use some connections to grant her citizenship.

Is it reasonable to assume that Beatrice II did spend time with her son, even if she was too innocent to comprehend that it was her own kid?

I mean, Natsuhi had the baby for three days before fucking everything up. And when Kinzo was told that the baby died, he went insane and ranted about how Beatrice's soul was stolen from him again.

If the baby was a literal newborn, Natsuhi would realize that the story about it being an orphan from the orphanage was a lie. And yet, she believed it. And if the baby "died" less than a week after being born, the Beatrice that rosa met would still be tired after giving birth and wouldn't look healthy.

I think it's clear that Beatrice II was around the baby for a month or something, but it was taken care of by Kumasawa and other servants. Maybe Rosa met Beatrice while the baby was being taken care of in some underground room.

>>18061320
It’s been established in the story that Kinzo had a whismsical side to him and the servants were often “accomplices” in his pranks against his family.

I find that hilarious. Kinzo sounds like fucking Michael Jackson. He did say that he could barely believe the old man in the mirror was him.

>>18061282
>is it like what Gendo said the Ritsuko in Eva where there is subtle hints in previous scenes that reveal what was actually said?
Really? I hardly remember EoE, what did he say to Ritsuko?

>>18061707
In the movie, you can’t hear what he says. Through true EvaGeeks autism they found out through clues in the movie that Gendo said “Ritsuko Akagi, truly, I needed you”. Here’s a full article on evageeks covering it. https://wiki.evageeks.org/Theory_and_Analysis:Gendo%27s_Silent_Words

After Battler fell into Erika's trap and gave her duct tape, Bern and Lambda said this:

Lambda: "When you become the game master, you feel like you've become God and get all sure of yourself!"

Bern: "It was the same for you, Lambda. You only lost because of a stupid mistake with walking corpses."

What exactly is she talking about? Takano didn't even get to fake her death in Matsuribayashi. What exactly was her mistake?

It doesn't sound like they are referring to EP5 of Umineko either. There were fake deaths in that one, but Lambda didn't even lose since Battler and Erika's solutions denied each other.

>>18062604
She faked her death in Minagoroshi though, which made them suspect her and the Yamainu. If Rika didn't suspect them, she would have ended up killed in her sleep and would have been killed permanently in Matsuribayashi since she still didn't know who the killer was.

>>18063225
Oh, that's right. But I don't remember clearly. What exactly made them suspect that Takano's corpse might be a fake? And how did they convince Ooishi to go there and check?

I remember Ooishi and his subordinates spending an entire day arguing with the other police department, trying to convince them to recheck the autopsy. But didn't Ooishi and Kuma-chan get killed before they could tell Rika that Takano faked her death?

>>18061139
Seconded

>>18063285
They suspected her corpse because the time of death made it seem like she was already dead during Watanagashi. Ooishi actually confirmed it and was able to give Rika a call before getting killed.

Aliens are doing a bioterrorist attack controlled by the Sonozaki family and they clone people to stay secret!

Spread the word!

>Ricordando il passato covers leave the whole "Nell'illusione che hai creato" bit out
Insanity! That's the best part of the song!

I feel depressed being so shit at OMK.

>>18064948
Practice. It's the only way to get good.

>>18064953
I don't even know who I want to play, I feel generally bad/mediocre with everyone.

my friend asked me to draw "willard but his legs are long"

this took me an hour, and i put in way too much effort

>>18064958
Well to start with, how do you prefer to play? Different characters are good for different play styles.

>>18065109
I actually don't know my preferred playstyle, probably because I haven't played enough fighting games. I think I might like grapplers and rushdown characters but I can't say for certain.

>>18065099
lol

Why is there no vocal version of worldend dominator

>>18065603
Post best vocal tracks, I feel like I don't know a lot of the good ones.

>>18065620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYWHU5BZH8

>>18065620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_gqY7QVXd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZDxwoaINk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clP4e6x-4hU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8x1PFC0xy4

>>18065603
Write it yourself.