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Visual Novel translation status


>Aiyoku No Eustia - 29.73% Translated, 17.46% edited
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "2284/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (98.9%)"
Clover Day's - 100% translated, editing + TLC still to go
Chaos;Head Noah - Fan translation ongoing
Daitoshokan - 100% translated and edited, images, engine work and QC remain
>Dragon Knight 4 - Being translated
Gakuen Heaven 2 - Demo released
Heart no Kuni no Alice - 91% translated, 4rd partial patch released
Junketsu Megami-Sama - partial patch released
Kanojo to Ore to Koibito to - 8% (2443/28887) lines translated
Koiken Otome Revive - 9% (2324/27095) lines translated
Lovely x Cation 2 - Common route translated
>Lover Able - 95.94% translated, 27.67% edited
Maji Koi A-3 - 32/95 scripts translated
>Majo Koi Nikki - 93% (37542/40208) lines translated, prologue patch released
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3 semi-active projects, one project released ch 1-7
Monster girl quest paradox - Part 1 patch released
>Musumaker - 44.4% translated
Nursery Rhyme - 100% translated
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts through TLC+Editing, 207/268 scripts finalized
Pure Pure - 47,39% translated
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 116405/257436 (45.2%) characters translated
>Shin Koihime Musou - 89% (96617/108888) translated, 11% (11615/108888) edited
Tsui Yuri - 46% (2687/5872) QC
>Tsujidou-san no Jun'ai Road - 69.11% translated, common + Ai route released
Tsuriotsu - 7637/31643 (24.1%) lines translated, 4080/31643 (12.9%) lines edited
Ushinawareta Mirai o Motomete - 34% (11889/35476) lines translated
Venus Blood Chimera - 90,3% (33277 / 36862 Lines) translated, partial patch released
>Witch's Garden - 34% (18428/53677) lines translated
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.88%, Motoka 41.43%, Common and Kazuha fully edited



Official work

MangaGamer
Imouto Paradise 2 - December 22nd release
>Sorcery Jokers - January 12th release
Kuroinu - Chapter 2 released, Chapter 3 fully translated and 39% edited
Higurashi Hou - chapter 5 released. chapters 6-8 through TLC+Editing, answer arcs to be released within a year and Rei arcs started
Bokuten - Port in progress
SukiSuki - In Beta
Fata morgana fan disc - 100% translated, 44% edited
Maggot Baits - 63% translated, 1% edited
Hapymaher - 100% translated, 96% edited
Hadaka Shitsuji fandisc - Picked up
Shiei no Sona-Nyl - 18% translated
Hashihime - 100% translated, 36% edited
Trinoline - 53% translated, 5% edited
Kyonyuu Fantasy Gaiden - 100% translated and edited
Evenicle - 100% translated and edited
Magical Marriage Lunatics - 100% translated and edited
Damekoi - In testing
Koropokkur - In development
Sonohana Maidens of Michael - 100% translated and edited
Supipara ch 2 - 100% translated and edited
Ritaania no Seirei Tsukai - In testing
Room No.9 - Picked up
Sengoku Rance - 51% translated, 20% edited
Rance Quest - 35% translated, 26% edited
Sweet Switch - 100% translated and edited
Bitter Exclusion - 100% translated, 44% edited
Overdrive's Final title - English release planned



JAST
Princess X fandisc - Picked up
Flowers - Volume 2 Winter release, 60% translated
Katahane - Fully translated, in editing + QC, Early 2018 release
Majikoi - 2018 release
Trample on Schatten- Translation 100%, in editing, porting complete
Django - Waiting on translation.
Sweet Home - 100% translated, debugging script
Sumaga- Fully translated, 70% edited
Machine Child - Announced

>> No.18013322

Sekai/Denpa/Maiden
Hoshizora no Memoria - Beta released to backers, December 18th release
Ley-Line: The Borderline of Dusk - December release for backers and general release
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - 100% translated
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - 50% translated
Riajuu Plus - Release "within a couple months"
Maitetsu - In QA, waiting on a third party
Grisaia no Rakuen - R18 version in QA testing
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - Kickstarter finished
Miko no Kanata - 2017 release
Nanairo Reincarnation - 80% translated, Early 2018 release
Baldr Sky - Combined release of Dive 1 + Dive 2 in mid 2018
The Bell Chimes For Gold - In QA
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
2236 A.D. - In QA
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - In QA, stalled waiting on a third party
Tenshin Ranman - Waiting on a third party
Koikuma - 100% translated, waiting on engine work
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released, Q4 release
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Fatal Twelve - voiced demo released
Her and Her and My 7 Days - In QA
Girls in Glasses - In QA
CyberRebeat - Picked up
G-senjou no Maou - Denpa version announced
Re;Lord ~Herford no Majo to Nuigurumi~ - In QA, stalled waiting on a third party
Nekopara Vol 4 - Announced
Rewrite+ - Picked up
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Dracu-Riot - Picked up
Senren * Banka - Picked up
Ninja Girl - Announced
Island Diary - Announced
Love Duction - Picked up
Koi ni, Kanmi o Soete - Picked up
Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - Picked up


Frontwing
Sharin no Kuni - December release, 100% translated
Grisaia Phantom Trigger Vol 4 - 1/26 release, Ongoing Kickstarter reached goal
>Momoiro Closet - April 27th release
Island - 100% translated, 40-50% edited, 2018 release
2 upcoming secret announcements


Degica
Muv Luv Alternative - Released, R18 patch still to come
Muv-Luv Photonflowers - Translation started
Muv-Luv Photonmelodies - To follow Photonflowers
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up


Aksys
Code: Realize fandisc - 2018 release
7'scarlet - 2018 release
Kokuchou no Psychedelica - 2018 release
Haitaka no Psychedelica - 2018 release


Fruitbat
SeaBed - December 19th release
Seven Days - Late 2017 release
Chuusotsu! 1st graduation - Kickstarter finished, demo released, March 2018 release


Other
>Miagete Goran, Yozora no Hoshi o - December 15th release
Tayutama 2 - Trial out, December release, R18 patch planned but may not be ready at launch
Magical Charming - Fall release planned
Song of Memories - Fall release planned
Hemoimo - Roughly 50% translated, Steam page removed
Sakura Sakura - Kickstarter finished, demo released
>Newton to Ringo no Ki - Ongoing Kickstarter reached goal, demo released
Neighbor - 2018 release
428: Shibuya Scramble - 2018 release
Dies irae - Released, uncut patch in final stages of debugging, distribution details being worked out
Angel Beats - 50% translated
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - On Steam Greenlight
Harumade, Kururu - Seems to have an English release planned
Monmusu - 2018 release
Taisho Alice - Volume 1 released
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.18013345

>>18013321
>>Dragon Knight 4 - Being translated
Who is translating this? Because this is cool.

>> No.18013411

>>18013321

You forgot Hakuoki: Edo Blossoms’

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/12/08/meet-handsome-members-shinsengumi-hakuoki-edo-blossoms-trailer/

Spring 2018

>> No.18013434

>>18013321
>SukiSuki - In Beta

Only two more years to go!

>> No.18013437

>>18013411
>Romancing SaGa 2

Holy shit!

>> No.18013550

>>18013321
Why do you keep doing this every week, VNTS? The industry is dead, these threads are shit, reddit and fuwanovel steals your hard work and insults you.

>> No.18014207

>>18013345
>Who is translating this? Because this is cool.

https://nebulous.group/index.php/2017/10/30/we-added-more-released-projects-also-the-news-regarding-current-goings-on/

>> No.18014481

>>18013550
>The industry is dead
But the industry is what is releasing things. The fan translation part is what seems to be slow, but when looking back at releases you can see it isn't that much different from previous years.
For this year
Standalone releases (more likely to be official releases)
https://vndb.org/r?q=;fil=released-1.type-complete.lang-en.patch-0.olang-ja.date_after-20161012;s=released;o=d;p=4
Patch releases (more likely to be fan translations with offical 18+ patches mixed in the list)
https://vndb.org/r?q=;fil=olang-ja.type-complete.released-1.patch-1.date_after-20161012.lang-en;s=released;o=d;p=1

Now lets look back at patch releases in previous years.
https://vndb.org/r?q=&fil=type-complete.patch-1.date_after-20151012.date_before-20161012.released-1.lang-en.olang-ja
https://vndb.org/r?q=&fil=type-complete.patch-1.date_after-20141012.date_before-20151012.released-1.lang-en.olang-ja
https://vndb.org/r?q=&fil=type-complete.patch-1.date_after-20131012.date_before-20141012.released-1.lang-en.olang-ja
https://vndb.org/r?q=&fil=type-complete.patch-1.date_after-20101012.date_before-20111012.released-1.lang-en.olang-ja
They are roughly about the same if you start filtering out 18+ patches.

>> No.18015107

>Miagete Goran, Yozora no Hoshi o
Do we know whether the fandisc called FINE DAYS be translated as well?

>> No.18015317

>>18014481
Maybe you shouldn't have cheered while the industry fucked fan translators over.

>> No.18015324

>>18015317
>industry fucked fan translators over
I think you mean most of the fan translators sold out.

>> No.18015529

>>18015324
This pretty much.

The only notable fan translator that got fucked over by an official localization company is Aroduc. Maybe Ixrec too, since every official company tends to mostly ignore his fan translations when they release something.

I can't really blame fan translators for buying out as money is money, and them buying out does let the original company make money off the English release. Whether personal greed or wanting to help the creator company is a bigger factor is anyone's guess.

>> No.18015637

>>18015317
I don't know why fags like you look back fondly on the days before the present state of the industry today. Yes, things are far from perfect, but it sure as shit wasn't roses and sunshine back in the pre-2012 days. Tons of stagnation and shit translations. At least these days I typically get one release per year that I enjoy, whereas in the past I'd be lucky to get one, and it'd typically be translated by Ixrec or Takajun, and therefore read like piss.

>> No.18015652

>>18015324
>>18015529
When companies keep licensing projects near completion and give the ultimatum "Join us, or get fucked," are you surprised that almost all of them bend the knee?

>> No.18015682

>>18015652
You would think there would be far more fan translators complaining about selling out if they were totally unhappy about the conditions and the money they were getting. Only Aroduc really sticks out.

>> No.18015831

>>18015682
They just quit.

>> No.18015840

>>18015682
Victims in a one-sided power situation aren't complaining, therefore there are no victims?

If only there was some kind of recent event that forms a parallel showing this hypothesis to be absolute bullshit.

>> No.18015946

>>18015840
>Victims in a one-sided power situation aren't complaining, therefore there are no victims?
If it was so bad there would be far more people saying it isn't worth selling out or warning not to get involved in the industry. You are trying to paint some false equivalence here if you are trying to compare them to people being sexually abused.

>> No.18015969

>>18015637
Same here, the list of shit that fan translators picked up and never finished was just as bad then as it is now (and was probably worse), and the so-called great releases weren't coming out super frequently or anything either.

>> No.18015972

>>18015946
That expose on Winged Cloud exploiting the hell out of its employees, followed up by another person saying Sekai Project does the same. But Sekai Project definitely only exploits their partners, right? They'd never exploit anybody else, once you discount the people with direct experience working with them who claim they do.

>> No.18016001

>>18015972
>Winged Cloud
A developer not a publisher that buys up fan tranaslations. So not sure where they comes into fan translations.
>Sekai Project does the same
Didn't even the video that was posted here the other week say that while Sekai did something shitty with throwing the VAs under the bus there was no evidence of them exploiting anybody since they were only going off things they were being told from Winged Cloud?

>> No.18016120

>>18015972
Sekai is shit, and there was the incident with the fujoshi as far as how Sekai treats its direct employees, but the translation groups that sell out to Sekai all seem to be content. Yes, there's Aroduc, but that's only one case, and arguably, part of that was Giga complicating things by demanding a Steam release when it wasn't all that feasible.

I'm sure that the people who sell out are paid minimalistically but if they are content with whatever pittiance they get, so be it.

>> No.18016138

>>18016001
Which was then followed up by one of Sekai's ex partners saying that Sekai's apology was bullshit and Sekai does do similar stuff. On top of it being common knowledge that everyone in the VN business is paid nowhere near even minimum wage to start, and all the ways they lie and exploit their customers with Kickstarter promises they never had any intention of filling.

How many people need to talk about it before you believe them? What's the magic number?

>> No.18016148

>>18016120
That is a horrendous attitude to take towards anything.

>> No.18016155

>>18016120
They're not complaining because that would cost them their jobs. This isn't rocket science.

>> No.18016177

>>18016138
>How many people need to talk about it before you believe them? What's the magic number?
Having some real evidence or testimony would help. The video had proper interviews with people along with associated articles that linked in with what they were saying rather than some vague statements posted in a twitlonger post.

>>18016155
>They're not complaining because that would cost them their jobs
We are talking about fan translation selling out here instead of the people with permanent positions at the company. It is a lot easier for them to come out and say how shit things are.

>> No.18016331

>>18016177
Yeah, that's what I thought, asshole. Nothing will ever be good enough for you.

>> No.18016371

>>18016177
I don't think they can complain until the games are released though, as there is bound to be a "we don't pay you at all at the end if you talk trash" clause.

>> No.18016375

>>18016331
If you want someone to take something seriously you need to be serious yourself in digging up something concrete or at least putting together smaller stuff that forms a big picture of what is happening. Posting vague statements is not going to do anything and no news outlet will pick it up either which is what you will need for anything to take off so it becomes visible and makes others question things. The guy who made the video actually tried and put things together and thus it got noticed and some outlets picked it up.
Now stop crying and actually do something constructive instead of whining here if you want to actually cause something to happen. Since you seem to be convinced there is a lot out there already, then collect statements, get interviews, put together news articles and other related media and then maybe get some known VN e-celeb to take a look and spread it and then you can maybe do us some good in killing Sekai. Until then it is all conjecture which doesn't do anything.

>> No.18016405

>>18016375
this is the kind of mentality that ends up getting people Weinstein'd

>> No.18016408

So did MG fuck up the release build or just not translate a bunch of shit for Golden Fantasia

>> No.18016409

>>18016371
There are plenty of ways to anonymously vent though without actually giving away who you are though. Plus we have seen it is possible to say some things about it like in Aroduc's case if you just decide a no deal option if the terms are so shitty.

>> No.18016416

Weinstein did nothing wrong

>> No.18016422

>>18016405
So why aren't you doing something to expose them like people did with him?

>> No.18016439

>>18016408
The post on the steam forums the other day indicated they fucked up what build they released.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/550340/discussions/0/1499000547480842047/#c1499000547480974020

>> No.18016678

>>18016422
People already have. There is a surplus of evidence out there. There are numerous people who have had direct contact with them that have said they are giant pieces of shit. But nothing is good enough for you. No amount of proof will ever be enough.

>> No.18016687

The amount of visual novels Sekai is licensing/picking up which won't see a release in at least 2+ years truly is depressing.

>> No.18016725

https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/939598210074423296

Doddler's afraid of saying bad things even about MangaGamer when they completely fuck up a release beyond any shadow of a doubt. Can we put to rest the idea that because people work for a VN company, or any company, that they can't possibly have any problems with them?

>> No.18016750

>>18016725
Pretty sure I have seen Doddler complain about some of SP's releases and he has worked with them before. Even in the tweet you linked his later reply says
>I don't have a lot of insight, but it just sounds like it was poorly managed. A lot of that never should have made it to release.

>> No.18016759

Nobody ever bats an eye when it's said that (Jast/Mangagamer/Sekai Project) does something shitty or awful to people, or steps up to defend them, because it's an open secret that (Jast/Mangagamer/Sekai Project) are shitty companies doing shitty things to the people who work for them. The people who work for them are passionate about what they work on, and want to do the work, but that's not an excuse to be shitty to them, whether it's by paying them pennies on the dollar, being assholes, or what. The choice is put up with the shittiness, or give up on what you're passionate about, as well as your connections in it because you can bet your ass you'll be blacklisted.

>> No.18016762

>>18016725
That's just Doddler, though. He does that with all the companies, and has talked shit about all of the companies. He's just polite about it and always has been. This is something that's fairly consistent with everything he criticizes. It's usually in the tone of, "Well, they did a pretty poor job on this stuff, but hopefully they will get their act together!" and so on. He's an optimist.

>> No.18016768

>>18016762
After how many times it's happened, he's crossed over from optimist to naive idiot.

>> No.18016769

>>18016759
Tell me about the oh-so-terrible things that these companies do their poor employees, anon.

>> No.18016776

>>18016768
>he's crossed over from optimist to naive idiot
He is a guy who thought he could get away with importing a loli onahole into Canada.

>> No.18016779

>>18016725
He's a hacker freelancer that works a lot with all of the VN localization companies, not a fan group that doesn't have much at stake if he shit talked a company. At most, such fan groups would simply loose whatever money they agreed to receive or prevent future deals, the latter they wouldn't really want anyways if the localization company really was irredeemably shitty. If simple money really is enough to keep a group quiet, then whatever abuse Sekai is inflicting onto fan groups themselves probably isn't that bad in the first place.

>> No.18016789

>>18016678
Why haven't you compiled it and sent it off to the media if it is so credible then? You could get a story out it just like with Winged Cloud.

>> No.18016791

>>18016759
I can't really go out of my way to defend people who are willing to be underpaid. Only Sekai has any record of being abusive beyond that, and even then, it's only towards their permanent employees rather than any freelancers.

>> No.18016818

>>18016791
You're obviously not willing to go out of your way to defend people who aren't either.

>> No.18016845

>>18016768
I think he has a good attitude. He marginelly complains about trivial stuff that is already planned to be fixed. No point in being all upset over mistakes you can fix quickly.

Worse is stuff like Chrono Clock translation where Sekai just says "Oh, making the otaku spout random Japanese words is perfectly fine translation." Not even a fan translation would have had this low quality.

>> No.18016859

>>18016789
Why indeed don't the stories about Sekai Project being garbage get any traction? It couldn't possibly be moderation here, Reddit, and elsewhere removing it whenever it's posted and starts blowing up.

L fucking O fucking L

>> No.18016880

>>18016818
If they aren't willing to be underpaid, then they wouldn't have accepted the deal in the first place, assuming the people felt that they were underpaid in the first place.

We're talking about people who start translating with the intent of giving out that translation for absolutely free then decide to sell it, not permanent employees of VN localization companies whose livelihoods may rely on them not shit talking. All these people are risking are spare dosh and reputation, neither which is a huge barrier if the company really did treat the fan groups like shit.

>> No.18016881

>>18015972
The artist Winged Cloud was accused of exploiting went on Twitter and said those rumors of her mistreatment were fake

The person who claimed Sekai was bad is the guy who has a 5 year old kickstarter he never delivered on. He's too busy releasing other games he just thought up yesterday. He's shady himself.

>> No.18016902

>>18016859
Nice revised history there or just some conspiracy in your head. I remember when there would be loads of replies every time someone posted a cap of dovac blowing up on twitter. Even more so when he had his big meltdown that forced the company to keep him away from twitter for a year which other sites picked up.

>> No.18017068

>>18016902
>I found one example of one person that people are allowed to criticisize. All other acts of censorship are rendered null and void.

>> No.18017075

>>18016902
you know the archives are a thing right? They show which posts have been deleted so you can't just outright lie like this. I'm expecting half of this thread to end up deleted (as usual) whenever he wakes up from his depression nap.

>> No.18017093

.>>18016880
>All these people are risking are spare dosh and reputation
And their projects. And their ability to continue working on them. And all their contacts.

Myopia this bad has to be on purpose.

>> No.18017110

>>18017068
I can find plenty of posts of people criticising Sekai Project. I am not sure what you are trying to say here.
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=Sekai+project

>>18017075
>you know the archives are a thing right
>so you can't just outright lie like this
Come on anon. All the archives do is prove me right. You can see plenty of posts of people discussing his tweets and not many are talking about them in a good light.
And here is where he blew up big time
>>/jp/thread/S15612200#p15612231

>> No.18017182

>>18017110
Bitch, please.
>>/jp/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=Sekai+project&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=yes&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

>> No.18017192

>>18017182
For fuck's sake, one of the deleted posts is about Sekai employees harassing people for complaining about them.

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>>18017182
And? You want some hard numbers to give some context? Could easily come from a users getting banned deleting all posts.

>> No.18017325

>>18017203
You forgot what you were trying to defend, didn't you?

>> No.18017349

>>18017325
A user getting banned isn't censorship when it could be just they broke the rules with that post or somehwere else on the board for something entirely different. Especially when you have posts in that list there that would obviously get deleted because of things like >>>/global/rules/8
Just like I suspect this chain will be wiped because of that rule.

>> No.18017417

>>18017349
That's a lot of words for "yes"

>> No.18017430

>>18017417
Point out the problem then anon. Your censorship argument thing of mods singling out negative Sekai Project posts and removing them is just a bad conspiracy and so your argument of saying it is impossible to talk negatively so media can't pick it up is a dud. And since no one has taken it further then there has been nothing credible.

>> No.18017432

Where is my Baldr sky goddamnit!

>> No.18017450

>>18017430
Oh, and thus we are back to me saying you should compile all your evidence in a big package to make it actually go somehwere.

>> No.18017475

>>18017432
Sekai told Giga that they already had a good script. Got the licence. Then it turned out that they couldn't actually manage to extort Aroduc for his script.
And then they were left with no script and no translator for the project. And a much sought after licence that they paid for.

It's a shitfest for sure. I wonder what Giga thinks of it.

>> No.18017492

>>18017475
>I wonder what Giga thinks of it.
I imagine they will make a Kickstarter and then as usual suckers will fund it plus what ever stretch goals and Giga will be happy with having money.
The people who lose will be the readers.

>> No.18017516

>>18017492
I mean. Probably. But that's assuming Sekai Project even gets it out on time.
But you're right. Even with a literal machine translation they're just about guaranteed to rake in the money. So yeah.

>> No.18017804

>>18017450
Let me just click on the button here that says "make everybody pay attention to this one thing."

Wait a minute. There is no button. There's just you, one of the countless shitheels feigning impartiality while telling those trying to elevate the known issue to shut up.

>> No.18017815

>>18017475
They have Aroduc's script. Doddler and DXS gave it to them. They're going to rewrite it, same as they did for Clannad, and say it's a brand new one. I just hope that their rewriters do as shitty a job as their translators do and entire scripts are left identical to the original so Aroduc can sue their asses off.

>> No.18017816

>>18017804
So no argument? Thanks for playing.

>> No.18017838

Lol sekai https://twitter.com/whitepriestess/status/940009828147015680

>> No.18017848

>>18017838
Unless it's packaged with fiftyseven other examples of Sekai Project being shitty, then it doesn't count.

>> No.18017922

>>18017838
Isn't that pretty common? When I applied for jobs to beome a wage slave I found the reply rate for rejection was suprsingly low. Though maybe that was just my experience.

>> No.18018010

>>18013321
>Newton and the apple tree being translated

Fuck yes! Anyone who played the jap version knows if there is stuff so kinky I should avoid?

>> No.18018079

Do you think Moenovel will ever go 18+? According to vndb, they moved from 12+ to 17+ so maybe marketing to 12 year old french girls isn't profitable, who would've thought?

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>> No.18018274

>>18017922
Don't most big companies at least give an automated message if you're not accepted? At the very least, I doubt Sekai is drowning in applications. All of that said, I don't know how the hiring process is for MG, JAST, or the other localization companies.

>> No.18018303

>>18017922
Yes, it's common. Afterall, you're one out of hundreds of applicants. If you're not going to get hired, they won't even bother letting you know since it's a waste of resources (time & money). That's why you're supposed to apply to multiple companies at once and not just wait for a reply from a single one. Odds are they won't even give you the dignity of a rejection notice.

>> No.18018356

You have to admire the optimism of someone believing that all you need to take down a company is a Cracked list of Top 10 Times Sekai Project Screwed Someone Over.

>> No.18018380

>>18018079
As long as AGM is connected to Moenovel, I doubt it. Going from a mild T rated title to what would be a typical M rated title isn't a big deal, and they did so because of targeting a different market. On the other hand, going from an M rated title to straight up porn is quite a big difference.

>> No.18018389

What are we using to hook text in Windows 10?

I still have my win7 pc, but my laptop I bought solely to play VNs on my big tv has windows 10 and chiitrans and ITHVNR both don't work.

>> No.18018525

http://steamcommunity.com/app/710370/discussions/0/1499000547482233373/
Rip

>> No.18018853

>>18018525
>After sending them numerous E-mails requesting a direct explanation as to why it was deleted, the response we finally got was essentially “(because)we think this novel’s core audience is pedophiles”.

kek

>> No.18019125

>>18017492
Sounds about right. Sekai will promise an adult patch, then take 9 months to deliver it after all-ages because it was only to get backers and had below zero priority.

>> No.18019141

>>18018525
>>18018853
>explained to them that the target audience is [...] people who like children in general.
I don't know but that might have been a little bit poorly formulated.

>> No.18019223
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>>18018525
I mean, what did they expect? Anyone remember the old Yohjo Simulator controversy?

>> No.18019398

>>18018079
>Do you think Moenovel will ever go 18+? According to vndb, they moved from 12+ to 17+ so maybe marketing to 12 year old french girls isn't profitable, who would've thought?

The reason If My Heart Had Wings was censored as much as it was is the goal was they decided that approach was the best way to make a mainstream success. The French girls quote is laughable especially in retrospect, but Moenovel (along with Active Gaming Media, who seems to have handled and is still handling much of the Western operations) actually believed they could make IMHHW a mainstream success to the extent that hard copies would be sold in brick and mortar retailers as they commented as such at the time. It is hard to say how well the initial, pre-Steam release sold, but they certainly weren't able to make it the mainstream success they wanted.

Then Steam came along, where they sold a huge amount of copies of IMMHW on Steam during the Steam craze, but more importantly, titles like Nekopara found the most success. It's no mistake they had their own Nekopara clone with the LoveKami spinoffs (along with others such Corona Blossom, Neko-nin, and KaraKara). That said, with VNs finding success on Steam where "as long as it isn't porn" is the standard, and their plans for a clean mainstream success dead, they no longer have any reason to censor titles any more than they need be (although AGM also won't do extra work to add back in content, for their YumeHaven release of Shuffle they went back to the PS2 version since it could be ported as is, and I imagine any future Navel titles they do would also be direct console ports though thankfully the console releases after Shuffle improve greatly).

Active Gaming Media though is a huge company that probably won't touch explicit porn releases to try and reach the relatively small off-Steam marketplace of a couple small titles they are working with for Moenovel and their own brand Yumehaven. Thus unless Moenovel splits off from them, official R18 patches aren't likely to materialize for any of their titles.

>> No.18019508

>>18018356
Considering we had someone who went out of their way to make an extensive collection of odd/stiff lines from Persona 5 a few weeks after release to make a point, I am kinda surprised someone hasn't made a centralised collection of all the shitty stuff Sekai Project has done yet. Would always be good to link for every time someone suggests backing them or asks what is wrong with them.

>> No.18020966

>>18019398
>LoveKami
pretty amusing that this ended up getting an 18+ release in Japan while the western audience most likely won't ever get it

>> No.18020991

>>18019223
Technically, Sekai took that down themselves, not Valve itself.

Monobeno still being in the store is funny though.

>> No.18021178

>>18020991
Written in the sky is also funny that it is on Steam as it contains "an older but short girl". If pedophilia was an excuse, that game wouldn't be around either.

It is probably just like with MGs past, just a bothersome steam rep that pushed their opinions over the Steam guidelines.

>> No.18021237

>>18019508
Someone did last week. Sekai Project threw a fit and threatened to sue them for breach of NDA, so they took it down and said they'd be writing a "more accurate" blog post later.

>> No.18021376

>>18021237
You mean this?
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.twitlonger.com%2Fshow%2Fn_1sqbh6t&oq=cache%3Awww.twitlonger.com%2Fshow%2Fn_1sqbh6t&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.3534j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I was more thinking of something that showed off all the damning tweets, all the delayed projects and broken Kickstarter promises etc grouped together in one place.

>> No.18021382

>>18021376
I'd do it, but I don't really have any web design abilities.

>> No.18021739

>>18020991
Not really, Monobeno can always include the usual 18+ disclaimer, and can defend themselves if needed by saying "we are just porting a CERO-C Vita game that Sony already approved."

By contrast the (now deleted) The Key to Home's Steam page gave actual ages on the Steam page, noted it took place in an elementary school, and heavily played up the loli angle.

>>18021178
I doubt most Steam reps would have looked at that Steam page as it was written and said "go ahead and publish it", even when Valve was at their most hands off initially after the Steam Direct went up. The group tries to downplay it in their message that describes the situation with Valve deleting it, but the Steam page presented the game in such a way that nearly any Steam rep would object to it.

>> No.18021765

>>18020966
Pulltop and Moenovel/AGM wanted to cash in on the Nekopara success on Steam. Moenovel as it is set up now though won't touch R18 content, while a title without R18 content won't sell in Japan, so they came up with the one solution to try to deal with both conditions.

>> No.18024404

>>18018212
Order Number - 289111
Order Date - 2017-11-25

>> No.18024590

The dev for The Key to Home says hes looking for an alternative marketplace to sell on. maybe MG or j-list?

>> No.18025623

New Dies Irae Kickstarter update.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1986219362/dies-irae-english-localization-project-commences/posts/2055767

>> No.18025634

>>18025623
I can't tell if they're doing a better job than Degica with Muv-luv, or a worse job.

>> No.18025640

>>18025634
I didn't back the Dies Irae KS but I feel really bad for people who did. It's a complete mess.

The Muv-Luv guys said there's gonna be an update this month. And I sure hope it's about the physical rewards because I dumped 400 dollars on that fucking thing more than 2 years ago and I still haven't seen anything.

>> No.18025652
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>>18025623
>To clarify, the 18+ patch is not a patch that adds 18+ content to "Dies irae ~Amantes amentes~", but rather an English version of “Dies irae ~Acta est Fabula~”
I don't understand. So what exactly this "18+ patch" adds then?

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>>18025640
We're friends now. I have 0 faith in Degica or Age or Whoever the fuck is running things now that they've laid off the PR team and community advisors.

>> No.18025676

>>18025652
To put it simply, What we currently have is the "Third" version of Dies Irae. It contains all the reworked and updated stuff of the "Second" version, just without any H-scenes. Instead of making a patch that restores the "Second" version's H-scenes, they're instead translating the "Second" version which has all of the H-scenes, but none of the improvements or additions made in the "Third" version.

to use Muv-luv as a very easy example. The current Release of Dies Irae is basically Muv-luv Alternative as it is on steam. Instead of making a patch that restores the cut +18 content, they're instead translating and releasing the ORIGINAL Muv-Luv Alternative without any of the improvements or changes that the Steam release has.

Or so I believe. They're absolutely horrible at communication.

>> No.18025678

>>18025656
I'm getting those two items in the picture too. The Sumika pillow as a pledge reward the Drill Milky Punch t-shirt as an addon (since it had been stuck in "backorder" status on AmiAmi for ages).

Either way we just have to be patient and hope that the upcoming update will clear things up in a good way. I'm also worried about shipping, customs and insurance since I'm from Europe.
I just wish they'd let us know what the fuck is going on. I remember one year ago we were getting frequent updates and pictures of the daki designs etc, but after the release of Alternative we've been seeing less and less.

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>>18025678
of course we're not hearing anything. All the people who communicated shit to us have been laid off.

>> No.18025691

>>18025684
That was posted on November 4th by the way.

>> No.18025694

>>18025676
>Instead of making a patch that restores the "Second" version's H-scenes, they're instead translating the "Second" version which has all of the H-scenes, but none of the improvements or additions made in the "Third" version.
I am not sure what to say to that other than "why?". Is it really so much harder to insert some script and images into Amantes amentes to make it 18+ than working on Acta est Fabula?
They had the chance to make a definitive version and just ballsed it all up.

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>>18025684
>>18025691
I remember that Jason guy, I saw him complaining on twitter a few months back. He was the project manager if I'm not mistaken.

What a fucking mess. Thanks for posting this by the way, I missed it.
This was the "upcoming update" post I mentioned. I guess the transition is almost completed at this point or will be by January, at any rate.

>> No.18025998

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Degica worked with Sekai Project on that Kickstarter and learned everything they know from them, which is nothing but lying and screwing people over. So weird how that keeps happening with everything Sekai Project is even tangentially related to.

>> No.18026117

>>18025623
worst kickstater, also still no patch to fix the TL or the voiced lines

>> No.18026324

>>18025998
It's a real shame yeah. Part of it is Japanese companies being scummy enough to emulate Sekai. Frontwing is better than Sekai, but Sekai gave them the idea to rely on crowdfunding so much. Visual Art's doesn't have issues at least, except that they used the console version of LB for Steam instead of the less censored all ages PC version. Dies Irae, as scummy as they are, didn't have any contact with Sekai, unless you count the freelancers who translated Root Double.

>> No.18026445

>>18025623
>>18025652
>To clarify, the 18+ patch is not a patch
Amazing

>> No.18026867

>>18025640
It's been so long ago that I stopped caring enough to be mad, but any anger is justified. It's better than the Dies Irae situation, if not by that much.

>> No.18026883

>>18025694
its really confusing. they are working on making AA completely 4:3, but they can't insert the h-scenes? what

>>18026117
whats wrong with the voices

>> No.18027762

>>18026883
Did the AA content replace the H scenes with other scenes, so they can't combine the versions without losing content?

>> No.18029501

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/mangagamer-and-friends-bundle

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>>18021376

>> No.18029525

>>18029501
>Princess Evangile All Ages Version

...

>> No.18029818

>>18029501
Both IMMHW and Love Kami stuff are included as well in addition to the MG stuff, so for the bundle at least MG and Moenovel cooperated to put it together.

>> No.18029871

>>18029501
I did see this posted on V as well. I am glad that they put in Higurashi and Evangile. That actually makes it worth it for the price alone.

>> No.18030623

Hikari Field is deleting Steam comments about Sakura no Mori Dreamers. Someone wanted to know if they'd do an English localization,or if they don't have the license and if MG might. And instead of answering, they deleted the comment.

>> No.18031337

>>18030623
If it turns out that Moonstone sold out to Hikari Field I'll never buy another VN from them.

>> No.18031655

>>18031337
I wouldn't be surprised if Moonstone did give them the English license in addition to the Chinese license. Moonstone has shown that they wish for the rest of their lineup to be translated, and MG is only going to work on a couple of their games at a time. They seem to have been initially in discussion with E2 Gaming at some point (Seeing the shit show that E2 ended up being, thankfully they pulled out of that as MG ended up with Magical Marriage Lunatics. E2 actually still has up their Magical Marriage Lunatics page though http://e2gaming.com/galleries/magical-marriage-lunatics-gallery/ ). They also were (are?) working on bringing over Love Sweets themselves. Unless they already had some deal in place for MG to end up with the English license of Sakura no Mori Dreamers, if Hikari Field asked for the rights to do an English translation I wouldn't be surprised if they were able to get those rights.

>> No.18031688

>>18026883
>whats wrong with the voices
some parts in the game you can't hear the voicelines IIRC common route where Ren talks with Sakurai in the park also one with Trifa in Kasumi route,
>>18027762
not sure about the others but the first sakurai h scenes was replaced it with bloodsucking

>> No.18031707

https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/941023723800408064

Seems Sekai just announced a December 18th release for LeyLine 1. Which would be very odd, as Hoshizora no Memoria is also scheduled for a December 18th release, and the two titles likely would have an overlapping audience.

>> No.18031728

>>18031707
>Sekai doing foolish things
Nope, not surprising at all.
If they were smarter, I’d say they were trying to sabotage the sales for one or both of them.

>> No.18031774

>>18031728
They had already posted LeyLine as a December release, and they probably don't want to delay it when they don't need to. The problem though is that if they are going to do a December release they need to get it out before with Steam Winter sale begins, and they already had a release planned for the 18th.

It's great to get the title earlier and Sekai probably doesn't want to delay it farther, but in this case it probably would have been smarter to have done a backer only release the last week of December and then a general release in January. It isn't like Ley Line wasn't long delayed already and that its sequels won't be long delayed as well.

>> No.18031806

>>18031707
>that font
D I S G U S T I N G

>> No.18031837

>>18031806
I wonder why font that bad even rears its ugly head. I'm pretty sure there's plenty of font that's free.

>> No.18031967 [DELETED] 

As the titles in the MG+Moenovel bundle will see a drastic increase in their Steamspy estimates, these are rough estimates for the titles before they see the number of copies on Steam surge.

MangaGamer+Moenovel sales at time of Humble Bundle

eden* - 75k
Higurashi Ch 1 - 75k
Higurashi Ch 2 - 25k
A Kiss For The Petals - Remembering How We Met - 23k
Higurashi Ch 3 - 16k
Higurashi Ch 4 - 13k
Higurashi Ch 5 - 7k
Princess Evangile - 6k

If My Heart Had Wings - 120k
LoveKami -Divinity Stage- - 11k
LoveKami -Useless Goddess- - 6k

>> No.18031985

As the titles in the MG+Moenovel bundle will see a drastic increase in their Steamspy estimates, these are rough estimates for the titles before they see the number of copies on Steam surge.

Go Go Nippon - 180k
eden* - 75k
Higurashi Ch 1 - 75k
Higurashi Ch 2 - 25k
A Kiss For The Petals - Remembering How We Met - 23k
Higurashi Ch 3 - 16k
Higurashi Ch 4 - 13k
Higurashi Ch 5 - 7k
Princess Evangile - 6k

If My Heart Had Wings - 120k
LoveKami -Divinity Stage- - 11k
LoveKami -Useless Goddess- - 6k

>> No.18032252

>>18031774
>The problem though is that if they are going to do a December release they need to get it out before with Steam Winter sale begins

This is probably the same reason that Fruitbat moved SeaBed up a week.

>> No.18032298

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1986219362/dies-irae-english-localization-project-commences/posts/2070214

The R18 version of Dies Irae is being released on December 15th.

>> No.18032425

>>18031707
They do this all the time, just dump all of their ready titles at once on a surprise date.

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When did we decide that a VN company needs to involve itself in politics.

>> No.18032585

>>18032453
Good Haro probably mixed up the accounts.

>> No.18032981 [DELETED] 

>>18032585
Most likely but damn MG should not be used for that purpose otherwise people will hate that overall.

>> No.18033091

>>18031655
If they had the rights for the English version then why delete the question wondering about it? It sounds like they don't, or at least not yet.

>> No.18033108

>>18031707
Didn't update their kickstarter page to tell backers yet and didn't update Steam page to reflect new release date yet.

Sasuga.

>> No.18033202

>>18032585

Nah if it was me it'd be a gay porn RT

>> No.18033236

>>18033202
When is the yearly licensing survey going up? I'm looking forward to that.

>> No.18033255

Windows 10 is the required windows for Memoria.

https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/941077047928958976


>It should work, but we cannot offer support for any systems that are older than (windows) 10.

>> No.18033264

>>18033236

Should be January.

>> No.18033317

>>18033255
how do you go from not offering support to required

>> No.18033569

It's going to be another December Without Angels ;_;

6 years and no updates...

>> No.18033595

I'm curious about Bunny Black, anyone played it?

>> No.18034008

>>18033255
I'm not expecting Windows XP support, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of VN fans run toasters that probably still run Windows 7, if only because of the stubbornness of their owners like me.

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>>18032453
Well I guess that's another one to add to the boycot list. Roy Moore had his seat stolen.

>> No.18034372

>>18033255
Wanting Windows 10 for a slide show game is ridiculous. For what purpose?

>> No.18034374

>>18033595
Fucking horrible balance gameplay wise. Aroduc sure has shit tastes.

>> No.18034381

>>18034372
Many Japanese engines don't support English operating systems. So the devs have to mess with the engine to get it to work right. Obviously programming for only one English OS is easier.

>> No.18034838

>>18031707
Wouldn't it be better to wait until all parts are out to read it anyways? I imagine it will end up on a cliffhanger or something and then we have to rely on SP's deadlines to get the other parts, so who knows when they will come.

>> No.18034876

>>18033595
gameplay is bad, but otherwise it's very enjoyable. If you can get a cheated save to breeze through the combat it's a very enjoyable experience.

>> No.18035466

>>18033595
It's a pretty great dungeon crawler with great dungeon designs.
With gameplay that's pretty unbalanced, but with lots to it that can make it fairly interesting even so.

And the story, characters, and settings are all great.
If you like dungeon crawlers I'd definitely recommend it. Otherwise? I don't know. Might still recommend you to check it out if you like the setting, but you probably should fancy dungeon crawlers to get into it. I love it personally.
Make sure you get the up to date patch with the bugfixes either way.

>> No.18035482

>>18033255
>It should work, but we cannot offer support for any systems that are older than 10.
What?
I mean depending on the demographic like 40-60% don't use Windows 10. So only supporting Windows 10 sounds really weird.
Wouldn't that be neglecting like roughly half your consumers?

>> No.18035748

>>18035482
Maybe Sekai just assumed that most of their customers jumped at the opportunity to upgrade to Windows 10 for free. Nevertheless, I expect a lot of dissent if the VN is fucked in Windows 7 with Sekai half-assedly defending itself with the requirements page.

>> No.18035795

Are there any publishers that are not shit?

>> No.18036138

>>18033255
...why should I "upgrade" to Windows 10 just because you are too lazy and unprofessional to support more systems?
SP just gets shittier and shittier

>> No.18036176

>>18033255
I am more curious to know what they did to make it that way. Is it some special version of .NET? DirectX12 support? Or just the compiler using the Windows 10 SDK?

>> No.18036331

>>18033255
As I understand it, the reason for this is they're bundling a locale emulator with the game in order to get the game to play nicely on english systems, but said emulator only works on windows 10 and maybe windows 8. If you're on an unsupported OS, you can still run it directly if you switch to Japanese locale or use another locale tool like applocale. Still pretty annoying, but some of these games are a real mess so I'm not completely surprised they thought this was the best route.

>> No.18036345

>>18036331
Port to Ren'Py or something. I mean didn't they do that with their other games? Did they fire their only competent programmer or something?

https://github.com/sekaiproject

>> No.18036347

>>18035482
I guess everyone should pirate it first to verify that it works, and then if they can be bothered they can buy the game.

Sekai sales strategy right there.

>> No.18036362

>>18035795
All publishers have got their issues. Sekai Project is the worst of the VN localizers, but JAST is incredibly slow, and MG has a shit store page website. Other than the occasional controversy, MG is the best in my opinion, though people who like physicals like JAST more because they provide a physical edition with all of their releases.

The other companies are too new to have VN variety, so you're basically stuck with those three.

>> No.18036367

>>18036345
>Did they fire their only competent programmer or something?
They had one? I guess doddler works with them for some things but he is already busy with lots of other shit.

>> No.18036386

>>18036367
As far as I know, Doddler has only done work with Sekai where he was originally part of a fanTL that got picked up. Just Grisaia and Baldr I think?

>> No.18036395

>>18036367
I don't think that any of the third party VN localization companies fully employ a programmer. They only use freelancers like Doddler or give the game to the partner company's programmers. Frontwing and Visual Art's probably have their own personal programmers by virtue of being a company that makes its own VNs. Degica too because they are the company that sells RPG Maker.

>>18036345
Porting to a different engine isn't always the greatest solution, but it's way better than what Sekai came up with.

>> No.18036420

Is MG going to let us add the HumbleBundle games to their store? I don't like using Steam.

>> No.18036518

Really wish they would license another Baseson VN. I even wouldn't mind if MG did a kickstarter for them if it's that expensive to license them. I've been asking for one every survey.

>> No.18036671

>>18036420
nope

>> No.18036758

Why isn't Golden Fantasia in MG's store?

>> No.18036764

>>18036758
Because it uses Steam for net play.

>> No.18037160

>>18036518
I'm not even sure if they're still partnered with baseson. Same with Lilith. It's been so long those companies may have just dropped their partnerships.

>> No.18037584

>>18031707
Jesus christ that font
What the fuck

>> No.18037611

>>18033595
Gameplay wise it's like a shitty Rance 6 but the cast makes it worthwhile imo
Fun game despite the actual game kinda being annoying at times

>> No.18037762

Cherry Kiss looks to have picked up a second title.

https://twitter.com/CherryKissGames/status/941437109029572609

>> No.18039312

The Phantom Trigger volume 4 Kickstarter ended up coming in a bit below the Volume 3 IndieGoGo campaign. The choice of platform may have stopped the drop off from being bigger, but it didn't provide a huge boost.

Phantom Trigger Volume 3 on IGG - $55,098 from 823 backers (average $66.9 per backer)
Phantom Trigger Volume 4 on KS - $49,445 from 775 backers (average $63.8 per backer)

Of course though, crowdfunding projects for volume 3 or 4 of a franchise aren't likely to draw in much of a new audience, and with Kickstarter updates of the original Phantom Trigger Vol 1+2, they would have been able to make the original backers aware of the sequels regardless of platform. Thus the closeness in results between platforms are unlikely to mean much for other non-sequel crowdfunding projects where the publicity on Kickstarter is likely to provide more benefit.

>> No.18039529

>>18039312
Surprised it wasn't larger. I mean who wants shitty e-celebs shoehorned into your VNs?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/frontwing/make-it-physical-for-grisaia-phantom-trigger-vol4/posts/2069108
We already knew it was a cash grab but not to this extent.

>> No.18039949

The Moenovel version of Miagete Goran is out.

>> No.18039977

>>18039949
Judging by the Steam screenshots, they used steam to censor the nipples out of the onsen CGs.

>> No.18039980

>>18039977
did they remove mc-kun's boner too?

>> No.18040008

>>18039980
Couldn't say, I would think that someone will do a full breakdown of the censorship later, I was just glancing at screenshots that were posted for a quick idea.

Speaking of which, here is that comparison between the original and Moenovel versions of that Onsen CG.
https://imgur.com/a/l3PIr

>> No.18040036

>>18036138
Because sooner or later you'll be forced to upgrade.

>> No.18040075

>>18040036
64 bit Windows 7 will probably last another 5 years before companies start dropping support for it and by then Windows 10 will have enough updates and external support tools that windows 7 users will be able to smoothly transition over to it and not have to worry about being unable to play their older japanese porn games or just older games in general.

>> No.18040083

>>18040036
Might as well use Windows 11 by that time.

>> No.18040793

MG is having a XXXmas sale
http://www.mangagamer.org/xxxmas/

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Do we have confirmation yet if Maitetsu will be +18?

>> No.18040860

>>18037160
Lilith soft is dropped for sure. The games are probably only still on the store because of the initial contract, or maybe Lilith Soft doesn't really care if MG gets to sell them as its a tiny bit of extra money for both parties.

I remember hearing that Baseson is more willing to get their games out to the West than MG is willing to localize them. They might still be technically partners.

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>>18040844
Supposedly there will be an 18+ on Denpasoft, but let's take this with a grain of salt for now, for obvious reasons.

>> No.18041135

>>18040036
Forced upgrades / updates is what Windows 10 is all about! :^)

>> No.18041168

>>18040793
>Imopara 1 is 4th on the weekly chart because of 30% off and because of Imopara 2
Makes sense

>Rance VI is 5th place because of 15% sale
Even as a Rancefag, I find it kind of silly. I don't think that there are that many people regularly buying extra copies or anything.

>> No.18041178

>>18040008
Maybe someone makes them an uncensor patch so they may sell a few copies. Censoring is quite pointless as it means only people who want steamed tits will buy the game, which is not really majority of people.

>> No.18041187

>>18041168
25% off Kuroinu. Is it selling that bad? I thought all the Euphoria people would buy it.

>> No.18041244

>>18041187
it's not bad, but their distribution model for it is really fucking bad and jarring. Routes just end. There's no warning or heads up, they just end and go right back to the main menu because shit is all out of order.
It's like -really- fucking bad and completely fucks up the pacing.

In the original Title you rolled up to the dark elf fortress and take it over, you then raid a bunch of castles with the other heroines and once you've finished raiding their castles you get a scene that transitions you into the next part of the title where you put the girls up for market or whatever. This is the part where you pick the heroine you want scenes for.

What happens in the western release is that in part 1 you raid the dark elf castle, but then you also suddenly raid 1 other castle for a heroine and then you go straight to the 'pick a girl for her scenes', but you only have 3 girls to choose from (the 2 dark elves and the 1 girl from the random castle raid that you didn't even know was a castle raid because it just randomly happens).
In Part 2 you instead open up with exposition about all the heroines and about how it's now your job to raid their castles and take them from it. But you only get to raid 3 castles out of 7 because the other 3 are in part 3 and the other 1 is in part 1.
Once you've raided the 3 castles you're now treated to a scene where you've already raided ALL the castles and captured ALL 7 of the heroines and you're taking them into the market for the scene selection. But you can only pick 3 of the heroines.

All routes also end super abruptly because the ending for completing all the routes isn't implemented so instead of going back to the daily heroine picker, it instead sends you back to the main menu so you need to reload an old save and pick different heroine options.

>> No.18041247

>>18040860
A real shame it didn't sell that well,I own the digital and hardcopy of Koihime Musou.

>>18041168
For the last 2 years or so Imopara 1 was in their Top 5 most sold visual novels on their site. I wouldn't be surprised if Imopara 2 sells more in a month than some of their visual novels in a whole year.

>> No.18041391

dies irae patch out yet or did we get bamboozled again

>> No.18041486

>>18040979

Alright, cheers.

>> No.18041542

>>18041187
Kuroinu was boring. Chloe had the only decent set of scenes out of chapter 1. I'm not even sure I want to bother with the other 2 chapters of it.

>> No.18042126

>>18039312
Part of the drop off seems to be due to Phantom Trigger's reputation as a blatant cash grab, not helped by the youtuber cameo.

I am a bit curious as to when Frontwing will stop the series. It doesn't seem like it'll be milkable forever.

>> No.18042388

http://www.cherrykissgames.com/2017/12/15/tsundere-idol-my-personal-m-pet/

>First let me thank you all for your suggestions on Twitter, Reddit, and here on our site. Our goal is to translate many of these so we hope to get to all of your suggestions one day. A special thank you to someone who not only sent us a recommendation but sent us a partial translation of ツンデレアイドルは僕だけのMペット ~いっぱい躾けてご主人様のLOVE精子で孕みたいの~ or as we have lovingly renamed it: Tsundere Idol: My Personal M-Pet! This does not mean we have 100% committed to following through with Tsundere Idol but we are in the process of mocking up a demo for it that we would love your feedback on!

>The translation game is a tough one and it’s not cheap either… we’re quickly developing our technical skills and are constantly on the lookout for ways we can streamline the development process. We never want to cut corners though. For Wild Romance: Mofu Mofu Edition we hired the translator who had done the original Wild Romance to finish the job in order to maintain a consistently high quality of work. Now that we are starting a game fresh we have the opportunity to try new approaches to getting things done. Crowdfunding is one approach we think can help us to accelerate the process of delivering to you, our fans, some spicy tales to stimulate and arouse your imagination.

Thus in short, it seems Cherry Kiss plans to work on (but aren't 100%) Tsundere Idol as their next Norn game thanks to someone sending them a partial translation, and that they are considering crowdfunding it in some way. The VNDB page for the game links to a fan translation by someone who approached the original company handling Wild Romance ( https://www.patreon.com/posts/small-update-11637391 ), so I imagine the partial translation sent to Cherry Kiss comes from what started there initially as a fan translation project and tried to make official with the old developer.

>> No.18042398

Hey, I just saw that speech in Grisaia is unquoted and wondered what is the standard?
In the vns I played so far in english the character's speech was always quoted. It looks weird unquoted. What do you guys think?

>> No.18042459

>>18042388
I wonder if they could forever crowdfund Norn games. If the goal is low enough, it wouldn't be too hard to subsist on repeat backers.

>>18042398
It's honestly not something I really notice. I don't mind it unquoted if the textbox mentions who is speaking at the time.

>> No.18042481

>>18042398
Interestingly the unquoted speech in grisaia is a workaround for an engine bug. CatSystem2 has a weird issue where if you have unclosed quotes in a sentence, the engine corrupts the text. Not sure why, but that's what happens. Quotes usually come in pairs, but there's a lot of spots in game where text starts displaying, then something happens, and then text finishes,and it breaks on those spots too. Easiest work around was simply not to have quotes.

Of course, unquoted text has some advantages. For one, there's not really a good solution in English if a character quotes another character or text during a spoken line. Since the line is already quoted, adding quotes within quoted text gets weird. You can use single quotes, but those can get confused for apostrophes, and it gets worse if the quoted text also has apostrophes. Not having outer quotes for a line makes this easy.

Personally I think as long as it's obvious someone is speaking, it's not really an issue to have unquoted text myself.

>> No.18042675

>>18042459
>>18042481
Okay, thanks. I was just wondering cause I spotted it, but I'll put text in quotes in my translation. It feels more natural.
Well, there are moments where there is a quote inside the speech but I think readers will manage.
Unqouted text looks weird.

>> No.18043650

Acta est Fabula patch is out, but it seems to be for backers only. And there's also this for some reason
>The specifications of this patch will not allow “malie_fabla.exe” to run unless you have already cleared one of the “Dies irae ~Amantes amentes~” routes.

Fuck you Light
https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/diesirae/dies_irae_r18_patch.zip

>> No.18043721

>>18043650
>And there's also this for some reason
>The specifications of this patch will not allow “malie_fabla.exe” to run unless you have already cleared one of the “Dies irae ~Amantes amentes~” routes.

With the programming troubles they have had, perhaps without such a restriction you could put it into the free download from Steam and have the entire Acta est Fabula version of Dies Irae? It would be a crude method of DRM if that were the case, but short of getting a save from elsewhere you wouldn't have a save with a completed route on Steam unless you purchased one of the DLC packages. It would of course be trivial to work around, but it would still be enough to discourage the typical Steam user from just downloading the free download on Steam and then using the official patch, especially once they find a way to distribute the patch to non-backers.

>> No.18044555

>>18043650
So officially I'm fucked if I bought it on Steam?

>> No.18044620

Oh fuck. I finally decided to look just how many script files there are to translate and there are fucking 450 files. Fuck. This gonna be long.

>> No.18044642

Japanese reader here.

Why is the official English release scene such a shitshow?

Recent examples:
>>18025623 >>18043650
>>18031707
>>18033255
(+ Miagete Goran release with no H patch planned)

I mean, yeah, LOL EOPs, but at with cases like this I'm beginning to feel little bad for you.

>> No.18044712

>>18044642
Incompetent companies + Japanese companies like Light who are only in it for the money

>> No.18044834

I never played a VN in my life. Is there any without no romance at all? I god damn hate romance, I just want to read some good adventure VN of a mysterious one.

>> No.18044866

>>18044834

Hadaka Shitsuji

>> No.18044944

>>18043650

I've cleared Sakurai and Kei's routes and Fabula still won't launch.

>> No.18044952

>>18044642
It is bad, so it is only natural to feel bad. I don't see why anyone would want for something good to get a fucked up English release so that this audience can't enjoy it. That's terrible.

>> No.18045089

>>18044944
Need Japanese Locale for it to work. Though as you are on 4chan I would have expected you to already use it.

>> No.18045119

>>18045089

Ah. I'm on my other laptop. Thanks.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/7k1wmk/ongoing_report_on_the_state_of_the_translation_of/

Seems better than IMHHW

>> No.18045180

>>18045148
It is still censored needlessly. Nipples is just older teen rating on manga.

>> No.18045263

Is there a date for dies irae's shipping?
Haven't checked since June but couldn't find any news.

>> No.18045268

>>18045148
Translation-wise? Cause IMHHW overall is utterly terrible with all the censorship, so being better than that would be pretty easy.

Any confirmation of kiss censoring or dirty jokes censoring yet?

>> No.18045303

>>18045268
>They don't seem to have cut any scenes except for h-scenes, and none of the dialogue appears to have been censored in any way. I've already found several instances of sexual humor that wouldn't have flown (heh) in If My Heart Had Wings.

So far looks ok

>> No.18045327

>>18045148
>seems better
Yeah I'd honestly be surprised if they managed to make it worse. They did such an awful job on IMHHW I'm not going anywhere near ANY of their products. I'll wait for a restoration patch before I check it out.

>> No.18045363

>>18043650
I don't know why but it wouldn't run for me even with Japanese locale. So I grabbed ollydbg and made it start even if the check they added to the fabula exe fails. Now it seems to work even from a newly created user and without playing any routes.
https://a.doko.moe/ihpkwl.exe

>> No.18045586

>>18044642
Incompetent Japanese companies that don't understand the Western fanbase, a couple of really bad localization companies (Sekai Project and Moenovel) setting an example for said Japanese companies and also seem to mislead the Japanese companies they are partnered with as to what the Western fanbase wants, and Steam being anti-18 plus. Mangagamer and JAST aren't perfect, but at least they seem to learn from mistakes (except for JAST's slowness). Mikandi is surprisingly okay too. If they survive, they'll be about as good as MG/JAST minus the overreliant on crowdfunding aspect.

Japanese vidya localization is pretty bad in general though, with Atlus USA occasionally censoring, the dumpster fire that are NISA and Treehouse, and Xseed only being as good as they are by the virtue of having one extremely stubborn anti-censorship guy.

>> No.18045638

>>18045586

I heard that Xseed's last couple of games have had really subpar translations. Still not as bad as NISA who had to issue an apology and then go back and re-translate all of Ys VIII though.

>> No.18046012

>>18044642
I think Sekai Project releasing the two titles in one day is so they'll be available when the Steam winter sale starts soon, which is estimated to start December 21st.

>> No.18046118

>>18046012
Still seems an awful time to release them with people holding off purchases until the sale starts, and I don't imagine they will put them out with much of a discount for the sale either making them less attractive over other things.

>> No.18046192

>>18046118
I don't know about that. They'd be the most recent major releases with a discount during the sale, which could get people to take notice of them.

>> No.18046196

>>18046192
Launching right before a major Steam sale is terrible timing. The only worse time would be to launch during the sale itself which is probably exactly what they are trying to avoid here.

>> No.18046220

>>18046192
Releasing near or during a sale means that you cut the amount you are gonna earn if you are selling with a notable discount from the start to get noticed during a sale, since you usually make most of your sales within the first week.

>> No.18046871

Anything special holding up this weeks update, or is OP just waiting for something?

>> No.18046967

>>18046871
It generally isn't out until overnight Saturday night/early Sunday Morning (based on US timezones).

>> No.18047046

>>18046967
Ah, my memory must be slipping then. Thanks, anon.

>> No.18048791

>>18048787
New thread for the this weeks update is up

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