/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Fuck I put the subject in the name. Delete my embarrassment janny please.

>>17883385
You should be able to delete it yourself.

>>17883490
Can't delete OPs nowadays unfortunately.

/jp/, what game and difficulty are you currently working on? Are you confident in it or do you think it's beyond your skill level? Is there any 1cc you have as a long term goal that you're working toward?

>>17883524
Shit, guess we're fucked then

>>17883524
Does it really matter? You can find the thread anyway.

NOTHING HAS GONE WRONG, EVERYONE STAYS IN THE THREAD AND DISCUSSES WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DISCUSS. DO NOT LEAVE THE THREAD.
THIS MESSAGE REPEATS. NOTHING HAS GONE WRONG...

>>17883367
Stop rushing. You're fucking it up anon.

>>17883532
Current goals are IN Hard and doing MoF Extra with all shots, I've been 1 second away from winning against Kaguya, most of my runs get fucked up against Marisa, Stage 5 is fine.

After I'm done with this I might do: PCB Phantasm, EoSD Ex and IN Ex. I could also probably do some more Hard 1ccs in MoF and PCB but I'm fine with those as of now.

>>17883543
I-I'm sorry... I'll go die at Gengetsu timeout for an hour in repentance.

>>17883532
>/jp/, what game and difficulty are you currently working on? Are you confident in it or do you think it's beyond your skill level? Is there any 1cc you have as a long term goal that you're working toward?
LoLK extra and EoSD extra to finally complete all the extras.
Hecatia is really hard but the difficulty is all on the non-spells. Koishi and her extra gave me much more trouble than what she's giving me and I seriously consider the latter harder than Heca despite the consensus that she is the hardest extra of all.
Also doing Flan in the meanwhile since I'm a scrub that was just able to beat Remilia on normal 2 days ago. She's actually preety easy. I can't believe I saw those youtube videos about her extra years ago and thought to myself "that's fucking impossible". The only parts that give me a headache are Maze of Love and Ripples of 495 Years.

I believe we should return to the topic of excessively decorated charts.
For example, this exhibit has big animated picture right in the center.
Positioning it this way says something about the person who did this particular chart and about people who excessively decorate their charts in general.
It says that this image is more important to them than their 1cc's. They feel that they should show-off their favourite Touhou character, as if it was of some importance or relevance, rather than their 1cc's. They are, ultimately, secondaries.
While they play games, characters and cute pictures are more important to them, which is a definitive secondary trait.

I have nothing against slightly decorated charts, but there is a line we should draw.

>>17883616
Where exactly is that line? I certainly feel charts like >>17883575 are superior to mine, which consisted of just finding two pictures and putting them in areas where they'd fit.

>>17883616
Autism

>>17883532
EoSD LNB with ReimuA.

It's definitely beyond my skill level at this point, and I don't think I'll have the ability to do runs for at least 1 month, and even then, it looks like that time where it will take 3+ months to acquire. I need to polish stage routes for 3 and 5, have better success consistency (in a game known for rng), and improve Sakuya, Meiling, and Remilla. It is my only goal, which is very long term, and I'm working on improving consistency on Meek, Killing Doll, Meister, SG, and dealing with Illusion walls right now.

>>17883638
I like the simplicity of charts like yours, it's to the point, the background isn't obnoxious, and it has a small charm without being over the top.

>>17883532
I'm "working on" Koishi, but haven't played in over a month. She does seem to be just beyond my skill level at the moment.
I'd like to see all the Extra dialogues, but not only is that a less satisfying goal than seeing all the endings, it's probably impossible for me anyway because of Hecatia and Mari. So my motivation is weak.

>>17883575
Ｐｌａｙ　Ｋｉｓｈｉｎｊｏｕ．

>>17883644
second this

>>17883638
I think decorations shouldn't make it harder for a chart to serve its primary purpose: to track and share 1cc progress. Because it's harder to see what squares are filled when there is a background or animated image in it. This is something slightly decorated charts don't do or do only to a minimal extent.

So, your chart is fine, but >>17883575 gone slightly too far.

>>17883672
Sorry I don't like DDC, I might do Sakuya A or ReimuA Normal 1cc but I really don't feel like playing the game right now.

>>17883679
I just pasted one background and a Reimu portrait, I don't think it's that much, but don't worry my progress is slow and after I'm done with the few things I still want to do you won't see my chart here anymore.

>>17883616
>>17883679
Okay, so let's back up a bit. Is your problem that people decorate their charts with their favourite character(s) at all (thus making them secondaries simply out to show off their waifu, as per the argument in the first quoted post) or that the decorations may be getting a bit much and interfering with the main purpose of the chart?

>>17883532
TD Normal, I haven't made any serious attempts so far but it seems pretty easy.

>>17883616
Charts like >>17694494 or >>17694592 are highly decorated and they still are great players, it has nothing to do with being a secondary or not, if you really get bothered by how people decorate their fucking charts you have severe autism.

>>17883712
>the decorations may be getting a bit much and interfering with the main purpose of the chart
This.
>at all
Not correct. Only when center of attention is on waifu rather than on a chart itself.
Just having a picture of your waifu on a chart is absolutely fine.
>simply to show off their waifu
Again, not correct. Not simply to show-off their waifu. I am pretty sure than they do have an idea of sharing their progress in mind.
But when it's so excessive, they might want to share their preferences in Touhou characters more. And while it's completely fine in itself, that's not what 1cc chart is for. So if you do use chart for that purpose, don't hamper it's primary purpose of, you know, being an 1cc chart.

And I don't actually have anything against secondaries. I just added it to the post so it would attract more attention.
Maybe this wasn't such a good idea.

>>17883772
Yeah, it wasn't, it made me get the wrong idea about your earlier post. But now that it's cleared up, then yes I do agree with what you're saying.

>>17883616
:^)

Clowpy is fun!

>>17883532
SA normal 1cc right now. It's hard, I'm getting absolutely
butt blasted
derriere devastated
rectal ragnaroked
fanny flustered
tushie troubled
anus aggravated
rectum rocked
shitter shattered
pooter pestered
crack cranked
posterior pummeled
anal annihilated
booty bombed
tushie troubled
tukkus tarnished
weiner whacked
bouncing buckets of boiling butt bombers
tailbone terrorized
sphincter smashed
coccyx controversy
colon crucified
prostate pulverized
pucker punished
keester klobbered
sphincter strained
caboose clobbered
hiney hammered
rear-end rammed
colon cauterized
glute grilled
sphincter singed
baggage broiled
poop-hole puckered
by it but I'm having fun

>>17883879
That card is harder on Normal than Lunatic to be fair

>>17883879
It's the only LoLK Normal spell card I've never captured. Good luck.

>>17883891
Yeah, making it RNG based was a dick move ZUN. I could hear your cheeky laugh all the time.

>>17883909
I wish I could hear ZUN's cheeky laugh all the time.

Playing as Sakuya in PoFV is one of the worst things a person can experience

>>17883616
I believe we should return to the topic of excessively decorated shmups.
For example, this exhibit has anime girl picture right in the center during bossfights and before them.
Positioning it this way says something about the person who made this game and about people who like it in general.
It says that this anime girl is more important to them than the boss fight/gameplay. They feel that they should look at their favourite Touhou character, as if it was of some importance or relevance, rather than the task at hand. They are, ultimately, secondaries.
While they play games, characters and cute pictures are more important to them, which is a definitive secondary trait.

I have nothing against slightly decorated shmups, but there is a line we should draw.

>>17882715
Just did some of my first lunatic 1ccs thanks anon.
>>17882980
Already did. Lunatic is just more based on memorization than pure skill. There's no point in playing if you're not having fun, and Hard mode gives the most fun if you dont know the game inside out like a Lunatic.

After getting frustrated about QED (despite being >>17883665) using a spellcard recorder showing less than 10 success cap rate, I closed it and got 3 caps in a row.

Maybe I shouldn't do QED or KD as a warmup since they drive me furious and make me quit the game after I do roughly 50 of them.

>>17883575
I think you should do all the extras before doing hard modes. Extras are easier.

hey /jp/ what was your first lunatic 1cc?

>>17883983
ULiL Shinmyoumaru

>>17883879
253 tries huh? Don't feel bad, her first nonspell took me 228 attempts.

>>17883983
>>17883990
ULiL Reimu the prologue is my only one, and I know that doesn't count.

>>17883983
PCB ReimuA.

Game's so fucking easy, I still can't believe there's people that believe IN is easier.

>>17883952
And to add, this is all in a space of 5-6 months, with no previous shmup experience whatsoever, except trying to play MoF and quitting after getting a (All)cc some years ago.

anybody else finds Raymoo's spinning orbs in SA to be so damn distracting?

>putting a minute into pasting image into your chart makes you a secondary
silly anon, secondaries can't even 1cc normal

>>17884155
Do I want to know where is this from?

>>17883532
Playing all of the games on Normal to fill out my chart. I have already cleared all the games at least once, but I am trying to fill in all the "Normal" boxes for other shottypes and characters.

Also I am re-doing the pre-MoF games because I cleared them many years ago (even up to Hard difficulty) with more lives than the default 3. I didn't know a real 1cc meant 3 lives only ;_;

>>17884155
I do want to know where this is from.

>>17883532
EoSD on lunatic as ReimuB. This is the second lunatic clear I'm going for, after IN as Netherworld Team. My second attempt at it got me to stage 6's midboss, and that was with one or two wasted lives.
Overall I feel much more confident than I did during my first lunatic 1cc. With some more practice, and good RNG, I hope to clear maybe sometime this month.

>>17884155
I played easy twice, before getting my first 1cc, and found it so easy that it was boring. How anyone could consider easy to be a great accomplishment is beyond me, unless they're referring to LoLK or SA, but even then...

>>17884267

>>17884276
lmao scrubs Hahahahahaha

>>17884276
Wow. I was that unskilled when I started, yet still self-aware enough to realize that I was a fucking scrub and keep my mouth shut. That's just embarrassing.

>>17884306
Yeah but no one takes WEEKS even in normal mode let alone easy. You should be done with your 1cc in less than at most 2 weeks.

I eat ass

>>17884325
Took me a bit over a month, honestly, though that was with being discouraged and doing maybe one or two runs a day.

>can't clear the easiest extra
feels bad man

>>17884467
You must be doing something really wrong, it barely took me one try to beat Ran.

>nearly beat Mamizou
>now I can't even get past her first spell.

fucking end my life.

>>17884604
same but for Ran and Chen

>>17883616
Yuyuko is more important than mine or anyone's 1ccs, if you ask.

>>17883983
My first was IN with Yuyuko. Took too much time and got discouraged several times in the process.
>>17883532
I should be working on DDC Ex and Hard modes but instead I'm playing HSiFS.

Posting progress from >>17780960

>>17884325
>You should be done with your 1cc in less than at most 2 weeks.

Speak for yourself, many anons have probably took more than 2 weeks for a normal 1cc

I'm glad it is over.

>>17883613
Done

>Aya's EX attacks bounce off of the wall

just another reason to wish Aya a horrible and slow death

Daily reminder that you shouldn't waste your time trying to 1cc normal

>>17886329
What if I like wasting my time trying to 1cc normal?

Daily reminder that you shouldn't waste your time trying to 1cc normal because it's impossible

>>17883952
Happy to slightly nudge you into doing better. Hopefully some day I'll be able to actually play Hard

>>17884450
That's mostly the reason it took me around a year to 1cc 5 games, and why my first 1cc was around a month or two, and why PCB took me way too damn long (admitedly, I 1cc'd 3 games and before finally getting around PCB).

>>17886329
>>17886420
kek

>>17884604
you know the drill dude, go fap to those tanuki's balls take a rest and think about how you did it up to that point in first place, it helps a lot knowing what you are doing

>>17886491
>go fap to those tanuki's balls
So futa Mamizou on Reimu? Would that work?

I might save the ritual for after I get to seeing her survival spell, because I just barely die before that. She has a few nonspells that are absolutely brutal to me, I think the third and fourth ones, I just can't see the way through on them. Frolicking Animals and anything involving her primate transformations also just fuck me.

where do download

>>17883983
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=44067
There'll never be another I think.

>>17884306
It took me a month to 1cc MoF on easy...

>>17887129
You'd literally have to run into bullets deliberately to not 1cc Easy.

What's the easiest shot type for PCB lunatic 1cc?

>>17887185
I meant to quote >>17884325, and you're wrong.

>>17887281
Sakuya homing. You get 4(FOUR) bombs every time you die. Easy mode

My cousin works at Team Shanghai Alice so if you use safespots or other exploits I'll tell him to ban you

>>17888064
Tell your cousin to put Mima in TH17

What do you guys do for warm ups when you're aiming for a goal?

What's the average skill level of these people in these threads?

>>17888507
Hard Mode
Touhou is easy, but having a calm mind while playing also helps.

>>17888507
Masturbate

>>17888507
Hard mode's stage 4 and 5 practice for warm up.

>>17888507
When I'm trying for a 1cc I haven't managed yet, I try to make an attempt every day, and I don't quit until I've lost all my lives, even if I make a dumb mistake early. I don't do any practice before a run, because I find that I usually end up becoming too complacent/impatient in the first couple stages, since I know them too well. Just doing the same run every day gets me through most, though if I know I'll have trouble I might limit myself to practicing stage 5/6 for a week or so before doing that.

So I finally got around playing PCB with vsync. Now it's actually playable and not sluggish, man this is a gamechanger! I went from getting my ass beat from EX-Chen to actually getting to Ran herself! And I can actually deathbomb instead of pressing the button like a whole second earlier? Sweet!
Oh right, my blind Ran run made it all the way to Princess Tenko, but I did get to capture Charming Seige (and nothing else). Second Extra clear here we go!

>>17891015
You were playing without the vsync patch? Why?

>>17888507
I don't warm up. I just play. Don't do what I do.

>>17891023
Because I didn't think it would be much different.

>>17886512
you want reimu to fuck the shit out of mamizou so you want overpower her in the game.
Her non-spells always goes in lanes, just find the line at the benning of the attack and for frolicking animals it can be a little tricky but monst of the time you just need to move up and down and let the dogs be, the risky part comes from the frogs

>>17888507
I just do runs

Aaand that's all the mainline extras with no bombs! I don't really like GFW so I don't think I'll get that ExNB any time soon.
Also does anyone want to explain to me what I died to in https://my.mixtape.moe/lgwvww.mp4? I almost had a heart attack.

>>17883532
I think I'll focus on getting a basic lunatic 1cc in HRtP and PoDD. I should be able to do them, though I haven't wrapped my head around HRtP at all yet. If I do get them then maaaybe I'll try the fighters too, just to say I beat all the lunatics haha. Long term goals would be more LNBs and lunatic box ticking.

I unironically find Mushihimesama much less frustrating to play than any Touhou game, even though it's supposedly harder.

Have you ever thought "Oh wow, those anons are so good. Their chart is way bigger and better than mine. I wish I could be as skilled and as handsome as them!" ?
Are you the type of player that only uses just one shot to 1cc the games and then move on to the next one, but you don't like how empty your chart looks?
Did you 1cc PCB with SakuyaA or MoF with MarisaB, yet you still wanna brag about it?

Well then, you're in luck.

Introducing the Single Shot 1cc Chart™. Product name not final.

Just clear the game with any shot at any difficulty and then you can mark that difficulty off the list. It's fast, easy, effective and elegant.
Designed to give you a much more manageable goal to work torwards to, without it ever feeling like a daunting task to fill out the whole chart.
Gone are the days where you looked at IN or HSiFS and said "Am I supposed to fill this whole thing out?".
Now you can go on /jp/ and post your chart proudly, without worrying about anons telling you "Maybe you should start 1cc TD more, look how empty it is." or "Look how many Normal 1cc's you got on DDC, why don't you play on Hard?"

Please note that LoLK Pointdevice Mode (PD) and Legacy Mode (L) are considered two distict gamemodes that play very differently from one another. They are neither alternative routes nor shottypes, so the split happens for that reason.

The Single Shot 1cc Chart™, get yours today and impress your friends.
Call 1-800-PLAY-FOR-SCORE and if you call now, we'll throw in an extra chart to share with the ones you love.

The Single Shot 1cc Chart™.
Warning: Fighting and Photo games not included.

>>17892264
Now this is a chart I can agree with. Chart circlejerking has gone too far and no one cares about how many characters you have 1cc'd the game with.

>>17892264

Why is 1ccing a game just to fill a chart a thing? Its the same as those faggots that watch anime just to brag that they have watched over 500 anime. Enjoying the game and improving should be more improtant.

>>17892308
The same reason people bother to 100% any game. It's fun to do.

>>17892308
Clearing the game with all characters and capturing every spellcard is fun though.

>>17892315
But with other games you don't brag about it with giant charts.

>>17892330
When you 1cc any shmup its worth bragging about

>>17892319
>>17892315
Yeah but the main purpose to do that isnt to fill a chart.

>>17892515
Okay, fine, you got us. We are making these charts to hide our tiny virgin penises. Since we can't have fun no matter what we do, we may as well ruin it for everyone else. We can always blame casuals and exploits for this.

>>17892370
TouHou is easy though.

>>17892370
>1cc
>worth bragging about

Maybe on lunatic but at least on normal it's just bombing through every slightly difficult spellcard because trying to capture them is not worth it when you risk losing all of your bombs.

>>17892575
If you can be assed to give a decent run on Lunatic Normal should be child's play anyway, no need to encourage people into being brainless bombing pussies. If anything that's what's actually detrimental to your development as a player.

>play normal pcb
>decide to play reimuB instead of sakuyaA so I’m not a scrub
>never bothered with her in pcb, except for fucking around in lunatic
>do well up until prismrivers, die a couple times but no big losses
>reach youmu, get fucked hard
>get to yuyuko with two lives and one bomb
>end up on survival card with jack all
>make it to 00 seconds
>ahegao.jpg
>get hit by the last fucking bullet
>mfw I almost 1cced PCB
>mfw could have got closer to beating best girl yukari
>mfw the next few tries youmu assrapes me again
I’m quoting my traumatic experience, for any faggots who ask. I felt empty for the next day. Fuck me

>>17892308
>>17892515
You seem to have it backwards. If you enjoy the game, and keep playing to improve, then naturally you're going to tick a lot of boxes. Just like if you enjoy anime, and watch what looks good each season, it's easy to watch 500 series. I really doubt anyone's primary motivation for doing either is to show off, but it's natural to want to track your progress in anything you do. In other words, a chart is not creating the desire to accomplish things, it's just displaying the things that players already want to accomplish anyway.
If you're asking specifically about clearing with every shot type, obviously you have to do it on at least one difficulty to see every ending. Aside from that, it shows that your 1ccs are repeatable rather than flukes, and that you're not simply relying on shot-type-specific tricks.

>>17892760
It's easy to watch 500 series but there is no need to track it other than bragging rights. Have you tracked every show or movie you have watched from tv/netflix? Probably not so why do you feel the need to track what anime you have watched?

>>17892760
The ENTIRE reason for charts to exist is to show it off. https://www.scribd.com/document/273249442/Scoring-essay-pdf

>>17892787
Not bragging rights, because I never post about it; more like personal satisfaction. And I care less about the number than about not forgetting things. But watching anime isn't really comparable because it's totally passive, nobody has any reason to "show off" about it.
Touhou may not be that difficult, but at least getting a 1cc is an accomplishment, albeit a small one to some people. And there's a finite number of 1ccs you can get, so it easily leads to "hey guys, look, I'm .5% closer to getting every 1cc!" or whatever. It's not exactly bragging, because I don't think anyone here would consider sub-scorerunning/LNB-ing worth bragging about. It's just a desire to share progress, because it's fun.
And again, the primary motivator is not posting about it in this thread, the primary motivator is achieving the 1cc in the first place. Wanting to share it comes afterward.

>>17892787
What is this silly comparison? Watching anime is passive action, getting 1cc is something you are actively working on.

>>17892828
Some people actively work on watching as much anime as possible. They even go to such lengths as watching them at 5x speed or even multiple series at the same time just to fill up their anime list.

>>17892885
I think that's mostly a bad joke used to get a rise out of /a/. Of course there are probably a few people twisted enough to do it, but they're just outliers and should be ignored.

Maybe I like filling the chart because I have fun with these games in the first place.

>>17892228
When I die to bullshit patterns I'm not angry
When I die stupidly to something I could have easily dodged if I were just a bit better then I get angry. I understand the logic

Wew, didn't expect this much debate over a chart.
I came up with it and made it yesterday, since that how I'm playing the games, clearing each difficulty one time and moving on the next one, so there was no point for the other squares to exist.

Then I thought it would be fun if I wrote a little "advertisement" for it and just share it, since other anons might be playing like me. I thought of personalizing it a bit, like the other personalized charts here, but then I decided it would be better if I left it simple and just post it for someone that might want a blank one.

I didn't actually intent it as a way for people to show off and compare with the ones that have played a long time. It should have been obvious by the way I presented it after all.

Touhou is about playing how you want to play and doing what you want to do. I don't think there's a wrong way for someone to mark their progress and having more options to do so certainly isn't a bad thing.

>>17893240
Er, I think it started with >>17892308, but it's always nice to see other opinions about this.

>>17892760 pretty much nailed it.
Chart filling is just a byproduct of actually playing the games. If people really are trying to just brag or attention whore, then they really fucked up by doing it anonymously in a single thread on a slow board about a niche as fuck game series barely anyone plays. Even /2hug/ on /vg/ would be marginally better. It really shouldn't bother anyone.

>>17893557
>doing it anonymously
I wouldn't say that, what with the decorations and all.

>>17893581
Unless the chart has some nickname on it, it's still annonymous, no matter how much you decorate it. Yes, it's your chart, but nobody actually knows who you are.

>>17893589
If you use a nickname you are still anonymous because nobody actually knows who you are.

>>17893606
But now people know it's specifically *nickname here*'s 2hu 1cc chart, ergo, you're no longer anonymous.

>>17893613
But that still happens with decorations. For example if a chart has pictures of youmu everywhere then people will call him youmufag and he is no longer anonymous.

>>17893581
>>17893629
There's nothing in the charts that can link you to any other post made by the chartowner (except in rare cases like the one yuyukoanon), much less anything outside of this website or even this thread. It's the equivalent of namefagging for one post which is effectively anonymous. This is a really stupid semantics argument.

>>17893629
That depends on whether people bother calling you that. Not that you're wrong, but just decorations don't strip you of anonymity, at least not in the strict dictionary sense.

Yeah look at how anonymous this chart is
>>17884417

>>17893688
Being different doesn't suddenly strip you of anonymity, we're all different here, yet we're anonymous all the same. Use a fucking dictionary next time. All I gather from the chart is that the guy did the stuff depicted on it, and that he happens to like memes and sassy file names. That's not a fucking identity.

>>17893727
I think it also has a name "Pizza93" on it.

>>17893732
That's not even his nickname, but if you search the scores on youtube (the HRTP one for example) you can figure out who that guy is.

>>17892624
Sorry anon, but if you can't even 1cc PCB normal forget about Yukari, please do your best though.

>>17893732
That's also the name of a video (which it seems it's now currently unlisted), so it could be a reference or a hint. Or maybe it's a coincidence and he went for a memey name. Or maybe his name is supposed to be "wangblows"?

>>17893738
Well, then it's very technically not anonymous, as a quick youtube search can take you to his channel, giving us a name, even if it's an alias.

>>17893747
Why are you using exceptions to define the rule? Sure if a guy literally writes "I hold the WR in x" in the chart then you can link a player to the chart, but even that requires effort and intention on your part to actively find the chartowner, which you can pretty much only do with the HRtP anon and ZM, who doesn't even post his chart any more.

>>17892308
It's fun to do, and encourages you to work on things you haven't beaten yet, especially for specific games. Beating a game once might be a fluke, but doing it with several shot types isn't. You're learn a lot more from it.

What have I started

>>17893806
Don't do it anymore, you slug.

>>17893806
Scorefags vs Survivalfags is something that will never end.

Personally I don't think you can properly scorefag until you're able to survive lunatic.

>>17893789
I said that specific chart was probably not anonymous (assuming those Youtube videos are from the chart owner and not a cosmic coincidence), don't know where you got that rules thingy from.

>>17893727
Do you know what an identity even is, anon?

>>17893831
"who a person is, or the qualities of a person or group that make them different from others."
I don't think a fucking chart fits any of those, and before you even ask what does "anonymous" mean:
"made or done by someone whose name is not known or not made public"
Now, what do you think that chart is?

y'all niggas fucking retarded

>>17892813
Let's make this extremely plain and explicit then: the goal in any game with stage progression is to reach the end. Simple as that. If there is a scoring system, its nature is obviously strictly secondary, since no matter what score you reach, the game doesn't end until the stages do (a fact which the phenomenon of counter-stopping triumphantly validates, by the way, since the designers, and therefore the game, obviously don't give a shit what happens to the counter since the game proceeds as normal, whereas the other way around, i.e. the score continuing to count after you've finished the game lol, never actually happens).

But the goal in the game the aspies are playing is not to reach the end of the videogame, BUT TO ACHIEVE THE TOP SLOT ON THESCOREBOARD irrespective of how far in the game they've progressed, and moreover not simply to achieve it once and be done with it, but to also HOLD ON TO THAT SLOT FOR AS LONG AS THEY CAN, AGAINST THE CONTINUAL ATTACKS ON THEIR POSITION BY THE REST OF THE ASPIES (- a scoreboard which, moreover, and we'll return to this point shortly, IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE VIDEOGAME). That is the game the aspies are playing, and whether the mini-game being employed to facilitate this grand game is Dodonpachi or Baftle Garegga, Ikaruga or Death Smiles, or any other videogame, ultimately makes little difference, since the main features of the grand game (i.e. the scoreboard-climbing antics and all the techniques and methods that pertain to it, in the form of credit-feeding to improve quicker, watching superplays, exchanging strategies, stealing secrets, etc., even decompiling and analyzing the videogame's very code - not to mention pure and simple cheating in a variety of forms, from hacking the game to score falsification, etc.) remain unaltered.

And the burning question now, before we move on to and concern ourselves with the details or anything else, is: "Is the grand game the aspies are playing better or worse than the mini-game they have reduced the videogame to?" Now if one considers that the first effect of the credit-feeding/superplay-watching/strategy-exchanging/code-analyzing or plain simply cheating fagotries that form the core of the aspies' game is to strip all the aesthetics away from the poor hapless little videogame they are so happily and blissfully engaged in butchering; all the wonder, the mystery, the tensiory the discovery of the unknown, i.e. all the ILLUSION, all the ART away from it finally reducing it to a mere exercise in thumb-twiddling and button-pushing, one realizes that the aspies might as well be playing darts or ping-pong and they wouldn't know the difference, and we can safely say that, at least from an art criticism and art theory perspective, the game they are playing is not simply worse but AN ABOMINATION. The very fact that all these activities, from the very scoreboard all the way down to the little brouhaha that follows the discovery of every single new trick or high-scoring technique, not to mention the code-analyzing and the cheating, occur OUTSIDE OF THE VIDEOGAME, means that the dimension of immersion (immersion inside the gameworld, not inside the aspie asylum) has been demolished - and immersion, as I have shown in my Genealogy, is the very essence of art, the very yarrdstick by which to measure and evaluate it. One has only to consider that the first thing they tell you in aspie school to do on getting your hands on a new game is to credit-feed it right away, read all existing strategy guides and watch all superplays, otherwise you can forget about being "competitive") since you'll be immediately at an immense, essentially unbridgeable disadvantage to everyone else.

>>17893861
A method of identification, by which one attains a quality which makes them different from others.

If I started making charts that prominently featured Medicine, and people started talking about that Medicinefag that plays like shit, considering the current number of people with Medicine in their charts, who do you think they'd be talking about?

why toho fighting games cant be good

Here I made the chart better

>>17893732
>>17893738
>>17893747
look at the games below pizza93.
now below wangblows.
is it THAT hard to figure out pizza93 is PC98 and wangblows is Windows?

>>17893918
I thought it read "Pizza93 scores wangblows", as a full sentence.

>>17893907
Holy shit you figured it out dude. Turns out 4chan isn't actually anonymous after all. >>17893907 is a completely unique identity! After all, if I talk about >>17893907, there is no doubt who I'm talking about, even if I know literally nothing about him other than him being the person who posted >>17893907! Surely this uniquely identifies this poster! Turns out we're all namefags after all!

>>17893912
You forgot to reduce each game to having 1 spot per difficulty.

>>17893938
That's quite the elaborate way to say "I concede", but I'll take it.

>>17893949
I wasn't even the anon you were arguing with. Are you sure you're not getting our identities mixed up?

>>17893957
Should have posted your chart so we know who we are arguing with.

>>17891906
junko's hitbox is activated right in the center of the screen when the timeout ends

don't be in the middle

how much smaller Raymoo hitbox actually is compared to others? Not sure if I get clipped on others more often because placebo or the difference is that big

hello i am fugg.png, pls be nice to me

>>17894136
Careful posting your identity around here dude. You never know if someone's going to dox you.

>>17893957
I can't believe that faggot fell for it, thank you for proving him wrong while I was gone, especially since his epic retort was something I already mentioned here >>17893636.

>>17894325
You already lost the argument, my man, what are you getting so worked up for?

>>17894366
Just because you say that I lost, it doesn't mean I did. Also, it's internet discussion, this shit never goes anywhere so no need to be "polite"

>>17894433
Good thing I'm not just saying it. Unless you really believe sperg outs and throwing around words like "epic" is what constitutes a counter-argument. Regardless, it's clear by now that your bag of tricks has run out so I'm bowing out of this conversation since I have games I'd rather be playing. Sayonara, anon-san.

>>17894458
Yes, run away from this imaginary opponent, who can understand dictionary definitions and left the thtead for five minutes to see you play yourself. I also have to leave, not being a neet is hard.

>>17894458
>it's clear by now that your bag of tricks has run out
The irony is palpable.

>17894458
All this needs is a "nothin personell kiddo".

>>17893727
>>17893831
>>17893861
>>17893907
>>17893938
>>17893949
>>17893957
>>17894325
>>17894366
>>17894433
>>17894458
>>17894489
What are you two even arguing about at this point?

>>17883577
I always knew this was Tenko.
Glad to find the image at last.
Too damn bad I can't sae it.

>>17894547
That picture of Reimu is so hot, I want to lick her flat chest

>>17893828
>Personally I don't think you can properly scorefag until you're able to survive lunatic.
99% of western scorefags just got btfo'd

>>17893912

>>17893635
Are you saying it is literally ok if yuyukoanon does it?

>>17894783
I'm saying that yuyukoanon is the only person whose posts, when they include an image, you can reasonably trace to a chart since all his Yuyuko pictures have the same filename formatting. Any other conclusions you want to draw is your prerogative.

It's fine to namefag if you have several world records

It's fine to namefag if you sage.

>>17894703
Is it not the truth though? I mean, I can't survive hard, but it's not difficult to see that you need to be able to get through lunatic if you want to get the highest scores, what with Lunatic giving you a significantly higher score.

>>17894869
easy and normal mode scorers exist.

>>17894870
i can only think of one westerner who scores easy, and he has an lnn, the pinnacle of survival achievements

>>17894820
Not the guy you are talking to, but I'm glad Yuyukoanon does that, because thanks to that I could reach him out and now we are friends.

>>17894870
Yeah but do you really want to be known as the guy who scores on easy mode?

>>17894875
>an lnn
>only 1
real survivalfags laugh at his face

>>17894955
only your best achievement matters, why lnn 10 games if only one of them is worth even thinking about

>>17894989
muh charts

>>17894989
only a scorefag would care about a "best" achievement instead of a collection of LNNs because they do not have to the ability or the consistency to be good at multiple games so they autistically play one until eventually a luckout clear happens which other people might think is "good" but the scorefag knows deep inside that he is trash

>>17895041
I don't think consistency in playing as safe as possible is something to be proud of.

The only way to play Touhou is to play unfocused and be constantly moving.

>>17895049
Consistency as in getting good achievements

>>17895080
LNNs are not good and the players going for it take 8 months each, epic consistency.

>>17894325
>>17894458
>>17895178

>>17895191
ebin xDD

Yeah, that was fair. I should have dodged that.

>>17895178
better than 4 years in one category and still garbage at it

I'm gonna get a world record in PoFV.

>>17895738
Good luck

I have a world record in PoFV.
But I'm not a namefaggot and respect /jp/ culture.

>>17895836
There are no namefags here.

>>17895838
Thats good I guess. But I have a world record in PoFV.

>>17888507
i dirnk until i pass out

>>17895836
Upload.

tfw so sick that I'm too sluggish to actually play touhou.

>>17895669
this post was probably made by a wr holder

>>17895859
That sucks, but even while being sick you can still get a nice win in the game and it will make you feel a bit better.

>>17895879
You say that, but when running a fever and being unable to get through stage one without getting hit, I don't think there's any clears in my future until I stop being sick.

>>17895880
You could try and see if you can do easy. Maybe it'll be a challenge.

>>17895880
Get well soon anon-kun, do something relaxing in the meantime.

>>17895855
Sorry, this is an anonymous imageboard.

>>17884325
You don't get to decide the skill levels of other players.

Looks like I got my first NB run. Too bad it is only PD so it means literally nothing.

>>17895178

>8 months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPsNtvYR_HI

explain this

>>17896912
HSiFS is easy.

>>17896967
Explain his other LNNs then.

>>17896967
Yeah, if you spam releases.

>>17896967
How about EoSD, LoLK, or SA?

>>17896978
His first was SA I think in which he did take his time. And by that time he was already skilled enough.
LoLK isnt that hard as people make it out to be, its just that its normal mode is hard because of the grazing system because there are no lives in point device and people get too scared to play legacy. Its also a lot less RNG than others, and is VERY specific in its spellcards, so once you figure it out, you figure it out for good.
Also pointdevice means you get the most practice on the thing you have the most trouble on.
Also Yatsuzume is a neets so he probably plays touhou all day.
He didnt seem to understand what I was saying when I talked about some manga, like most users on twitch, so they just only care about gameplay and dont give a shit about lore either.

>>17897071
Also TouHou is easy.

>>17897071
Literally this entire post is made up.

>>17897071
>LoLK
>Its also a lot less RNG than others

>>17897071
Maybe he just likes being a primary

>Yatsuzume is a neets
Proofs

>>17897137
No its not except Junko and nonspells of Seiran and MoguMogu. Unlike EoSD where everything is either aimed or RNG.

>>17897140
Oh I just remembered he's in college.
Prabably a shitty one because he didnt study and played touhou all day.

>>17897071
>his first was SA I think
see pic

>Also Yatsuzume is a neets so he probably plays touhou all day.

Wasn't the whole deal with him that he needs little time to get his goals? That's the last time we mentioned him here and it lead to the whole genetics thing.

>>17897185
>>17897071
>his first was SA I think
see pic

>Also Yatsuzume is a neets so he probably plays touhou all day.

Wasn't the whole deal with him that he needs little time to get his goals? That's the last time we mentioned him here and it lead to the whole genetics thing.

>>17897190
He's been playing touhou for a long time though.
Most others stick to one game and try to score, He's one of the few who moves on after LNNing. He has also LNB'd every game before getting his first LNN.
I mean, I've only played touhou for 3/4 of a year, and its my first shmup too, and I've already got my first lunatic clear, legacy in LoLK.
TouHou is easy my m8, that is when you know what you're doing and not running around like a retard.

>>17897261
So he doesn't play touhou all day. He just knows about it for a long time.

>>17897275
Nah I think he started only 2-3 years ago, he's jsut talented and plays categories without depth.

>>17897275
He plays touhou all day from a very long time.

>>17897261
>I've already got my first lunatic clear, legacy in LoLK.
With who?

>>17897298
Raisin with 20 misses

>>17897156
>he's in college
Proofs

>>17897417

>>17896978
talent

>>17896912
>explain this
Ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwbwSMCw7Xw

This thread keeps talking about how sick survival players are but only talks about the ultra talented one and ignores everyone else.

>>17897261
>got my first lunatic clear
>TouHou is easy

>>17897676
The real problem with LNNs is that once you get to the point of being skilled enough to do them they become boring. With proper memo and survival strats virtually all of stages 1-3 and 70% of stages 4-6 become trivial. Scoring on the other hand has the advantage of making otherwise easy patterns and stages much more interesting due to requiring riskier and more difficult strats than survival. It's simply much more interesting to point blank graze a pattern or constantly be going for PoCs than staying at the bottom of the screen and tap streaming to dodge everything.

>>17897676
This is the guy that plays a few credits every month and complains about every 1MNB he gets.

>>17897676
>Mino
>not ultra talented
Are you new?

>>17897676
>This thread keeps talking about how sick survival players are but only talks about the ultra talented one
This thread doesn't talk about how survival players are better at the game, they talk about survival being the majority of players or the primary goal of the game.

Do you think the average score fag is able to get into the top ten? Bringing up the people who are notable for being really fucking good is irrelevant as the majority of players aren't going to be close to them.

Can we replace this shitty 1cc chart meme with score charts instead?

>>17897779
>caring about score in games other than eosd, mof and hsifs

>>17897786
>false flagging this hard
lmao hi nigger

>>17897786
>caring about score in games other than shitty X/C spam games
Yes.

>>17897740
So talented he lost 7 LNNs to a memo spell.
>>17897745
>Bringing up the people who are notable for being really fucking good is irrelevant as the majority of players aren't going to be close to them.
Yeah, but isn't this basically what the thread has been on about for the past 24h?

There's not even ten westerners worth mentioning, I fail to see your point.

>>17897811
He lost 7 LNNs to a memo spell out of 7 runs total.

>>17897814
this desu senpai

>>17897811
My point is bringing up skill levels is in itself pointless and has nothing to do with whether it's better to play for score or just to play to see if you can get through the game.

Weird. Usually janny is quick to delete e-celeb posts.

>>17897922
maybe janny is on vacation

is this touhou blowjob thread

>>17897956
*succ*

Since tamamo70 or DyedInScarlet (our resident /jp/ janitors) has once again started censoring discussion, please feel free to continue the discussion here: >>/jp/thread/S17883367

>doesn't like the entire conversation so he just deletes it
0.00$/hour

>doesn't like the entire conversation so he just deletes it
0.00$/hour

I've been using a Sega Saturn pad for a week now and it honesty doesn't feel that good to me. I guess getting a meme stick is my only option now.

I've been trying to beat EoSD's extra stage with it. Only got to flan's 4th spellcard even after bombing a few times. I kept making too many simple mistakes on the precision stuff.

>>17900898
I don't think constantly switching input device while you're still at a beginners level will help a lot. There is no magical input device that will make up for your lack of practice.

>>17900907
Obviously its detrimental more than anything. But I just didn't feel comfortable with it as someone who only used xb1 and 360 pads for most stgs. Besides, I always wanted a stick and was only trying the Saturn pad cause lots of people recommend it. I guess i'm just accustomed to joysticks and not dpads.

The pattern weren't difficult to understand, but I kept making dumb mistakes, like running into a slow moving bullet in spam before pachty showing up.

>>17893975
I think that Reimu hitbox is 4 pixels while Marisa is 6, but I'm not sure if everyone has the same hitbox in HSiFS 1.00 or not.

>>17896686
Don't say that, it's a small step towards a big goal.

Anyone know how to fix this?

>>17900934
Both are way smaller than this.

>>17901211
Does it really matter? Nobody plays Touhou games for the plot. I'm not even trolling. I'm a "hardcore" fan myself.

>>17901211
You could start by updating it to the latest version, at least.

>>17901276

>>17900931
I tried using an arcade stick for touhou and it felt absolutely horrible. It wasn't precise at all and making fast small adjustments was pretty much impossible. Keyboard just feels so much better.

>>17901346
There are some players with pretty decent success with Arcade sticks in touhou.

>>17901211
>>17901296
Fixed. It was a font rasterizer (Mactype) messing with things.

>>17901211
Choose Monika

>>17897779
Go ahead, make a chart, post it, start using it, people will follow if it's a good idea.

what's the most fast paced 2hu game in the series so far?

>>17902474
Your favorite at 420fps with the top of the screen hidden.

Just finished Okina. Is she the easiest extra stage boss now? That survival spell was a joke.

I can't make any progress, stuck on PCB hard, extra and SA normal

>>17903198
How about to play only one game.

>>17903198
Just watch replays, particularly no miss no bomb. I was able to clear PCB extra after doing it.

NMNB PCB extra:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=194

NMNB PCB Hard:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=39134

NMNB SA Normal:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=42605

Before I was able to clear any extra, SA normal seemed impossible but after watching replays and putting in a bit of effort, even I was able to clear it on normal with all shot types:

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=40559

I finally got my first 1cc just now (pic related), I've had an ego/perfectionist thing going on with bomb usage and putting that aside has really helped. I died on Futo's firewall card and once on Miko's last two spell cards.

I'm not really sure what to go for next, I spent 90% of my time playing TD as Marisa so I could get to a 1cc fairly quickly, but the only other game I've finished is 6 with ReimuA and I've dicked about up to stage 5 in 7, 8 and 10.

>>17903682
Well done. The obvious next step would be to clear 13 with the other characters, but if you feel it's wearing on you and want to change things up, I'd go for 7 next.

Do you use Practice mode to practice individual stages, or do you go for a full run every time?

>>17903682
Congratulations anon! That's a very nice first.
>>17903821
Runs

>>17903821
Practice mode is for sissies.

>>17903821
Runs unless I know for sure a specific stage is fucking me up. Like SA stage 5 back in the day.

>>17901211
click the red button with the X in the top right corner

>>17903821
I just run the gauntlet more often than not, unless one stage in particular is blocking me from getting a 1cc, then I try to practice that until I can get through it while losing at most 2 lives, unless it's the final level.

>>17903821
I practice individual spellcards, then stages, then runs, aiming for confidence, with some luck, that I can 0 miss the stage.

>>17903682
Good work anon! Your run was better than my 1cc of that game! Try going for Imperishable Night or Hidden Star in Four Seasons next, as they're pretty easy.

Is DDC supposed to be really easy or is SakuyaA just broken?

>>17904604
Both of them

>>17904635
/thread

>>17888507
i do runs on hard
when i feel like im losing focus or keep doing worse, i'll move up to lunatic or down to normal. gives you some variety and gets your mind running a bit more

>>17902437
this is following me everywhere
get out of my head dude

>>17903821
I practice spells whenever possible and then do full runs.
Every game should have spell practice mode it just makes the game so much more fun to me.

>>17904604
SakuyaA slows down the boss when the knives are in her, it also slows down the patterns and bullets, so you end up with less bullets on the screen and they're easier to dodge. If you hit the extra boss at the right point before her survival card and hold shift the entire time, you can prevent that card from reaching its final phase.

Hecatias nonspells are fucking brutal holy shit.

On a scale of 1 to ZUN made it, how touhou is this song? https://youtu.be/6oLUuXkoiAs

I beat the MS extra, but after the ending, the game started displaying random garbled text which eventually took up the whole screen and turned it white. I didn't get a chance to input my score and had to close the game. What could have caused this? Using Neko Project II btw.

>>17905107
English patched is bugged for the extra stage as far as I know. No on has bothered to fix it.

>>17905070
Not a music theorist but I’ll give it a shot anyways.
2;40 to 4:18 sounds like ZUN made it, the rest range from too slow and inconsistent of tempo to sounding pretty close for a few seconds. A good remix could make it all sound like ZUN, but this is generally too organic. 4/10 or something.

>>17905945
Yeah kinda agree. I felt like it had a melody that ZUN could very well make but i didn't take into account all the other elements and characteristics of the song.

PCB ReimuA is so fucking bad. Everything takes like ten years to die.

>>17906172

tfw no scores posted entire thread

>>17906260

>>17906307
thank you

LoLK pointdevice state resets without warning when I accidentally choose anothor character or close the game when player has not died. It even resets when I change the resolution before starting the exe file. I've reach Junko twice now in lunatic without using any bomb, and this supposed to be my first clear so it gives extra pain.
What a shitty programming.
Also I think it lags somewhat. Should I use vpatch?

Does anybody have a blank, up to date 1cc chart?
I've just started to be able to actually 1cc games, and I need a way to keep track

>>17906693
https://imgur.com/a/LmjDC

>>17906719
Thank you!

>>17906442
What will you lose if you download vpatch? There's many anons that have downloaded it and benefitted, me as well.

I managed to get to Kanako on my second go of MoF (After having played it a few times when first getting into the series and trying to decide which game to play) She's a lot more brutal than I expected given how I managed to coast through the rest of the game. Anything I should keep in mind when fighting her? Using Marisa A for reference.

>>17907250
Try to get comfortable with speedkilling her first nonspell. Gather your options together by holding down while unfocused before the nonspell starts, and stay under her.
Bomb Rice Porridge, that spell card can go fuck itself. You get 0.80 Power back for beating it anyway, it's almost free. I also bomb Misayama Shrine Hunting Ritual.
Miracle of Otensui requires some practice, and it's made much harder if you start misdirecting on the wrong side. If you mess up you'll have to dodge both the aimed bullets and the non-aimed bullets from the rotating bullet spawner on the edges every wave.
You might already know this, but bomb the shit out of stage 6. The last big fairy drops 2.0 Power.

I watched the replays, I know the strats, and yet I can barely clear PCB hard with all continues

>>17907364
That helps. I managed to get as far as the (hopefully only) non-spell where she turns invincible and floods the screen with bullets. Bombing through that didn't work, so I guess I need to figure out the timing.

>>17907407
you're not talented

>>17907407
what was your score?

>>17907538
I don't care about score

>>17907421
That's her last non. It's kinda like Remi's, you can only attack her when she's standing still.

>>17907715
Shit. So I was closer than I thought. I'll just have to clean up the first five stages to see if I can get there with a good amount of lives until I can power through it, then.

>>17907407
But have you practiced?

>>17907751
Sounds good. What difficulty at?

Also yes, just like Remi, her last two spells are back to back. Her next-to-last is just streaming with some bullets in the way, her final (which you've probably already seen) is sheer skill, I strongly advise not to bomb, 'cause you'll be in for a nasty surprise.

>>17907822
Normal. I just kind of assumed that none of the final spells had non-spells (Shinmyoumaru had 3 back-to-backs, as did Junko, and I think the rest of the ones I've fought had the last 2 be back to back). But yeah, I tried bombing on that final card when I managed to get to it on one of my continues.

I haven't beaten 6 either since the game always crashes for me, so I don't really know too much about how to fight Remilia.

>>17907879
Point is both bosses have a non where they stand still and then use three different attacks (pausing between each) and then start over.

>>17906442
Yes. You should also finish your English courses before posting further.

how the fuck do you increase consistency at Scarlet Meister, this is the most soul crushing spell I have ever faced

It took me 45 tries (granted I was on tilt) today to get 1 cap
45 tries
a 2.22% chance

fuck this piece of shit spell, I am going to get cracks in my skull from banging my head from this spellcard

>>17908124
>how the fuck do you increase consistency
By having talent. You can't "increase" consistency without it.

>>17883672
Heyy looks like I got it, did 3 runs in total, the first one was with ReimuA and I died at Shinmyoumaru's last spellcard when she had 1hp remaining, the second one was a double K.O with SakuyaA, and the third one was finally the 1cc.

With this I have normal 1cc'd every main windows game (except for GFW) I can now continue with the rest without remorse.

Hey guise I finally could beat PCB with SakuyaB, I just beat Ran with her (first try, at least as Sakuya) and unlocked Phantasm. Today was a good day except not really, DDC Stage 5 kicked my ass really fucking hard.

>>17908124
Are you at least misdirecting them? That's the only real "strategy". The only thing past that is git gud.

>>17908324
Great! What should I bug you about next?

>>17908331
Were you the same guy all this time? I remember been told to play DDC more than once in the past months, sorry for the delay.

>>17908326
So you got a 1cc then an extra clear afterwards? nice!

>>17908331
DDC has an extra mode, anon, clearly that is your next target for him.

>>17908365
Yes, man. I owe it all to vsync. I was kinda pissy when I 1cc'd as ReimuB (prior to getting the patch) 'cause I felt I had wasted so much time learning the incredibly fun SakuyaB (I'm kind of a sucker for gimmicky shottypes), but that glorious patch finally let me actually dodge and bomb thru Prismrivers and Youmu. I died at the very last second of Resurrection Butterfly, but that's certainly outweighted by my second Extra Clear so far. The fact they were back to back shows I certainly improved a lot in this whole year and 5 games of career!

Is there any way to disable that shitty frame ghost effect that EoSD abuses in the first two stages?

>>17908767
What do you mean?

Wow PCB extra stage was so easy. Took me like 3 tries to beat it. I guess phantasm stage is the real extra in this game.

>>17909580
Its even easier. None of the extra stages from 6-10 are hard for that matter.

>>17909665
>even easier
Stop shitposting. Every shot or stage section in the phantasm stage is an objectively harder version of its extra counterpart and there are addituonal spellcards and stage sections too.

>>17909759
Whatever its all still so easy it barely makes a difference.

東方天空璋 ～ Hidden Star in Four Seasons. on Steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/745880/ it's out

>>17909969
This was already a thing a week ago, and probably no one here needs to go on steam to play the game. At least it's not translated though

>>17909969
And no 1.01 patch with it. Damn. I thought for sure he was just sitting on one to release along with the Steam version, but at this point I guess it's safe to assume that there won't be any.

>>17911176
>at this point I guess it's safe to assume that there won't be any.
Spell Practice against Satono is still broken. I don't want to believe he would leave it like that, what the hell is up with that?
If he's not just busy with 15.5, I will personally write him a physical letter in broken Japanese demanding he fix it.

>>17911293
I know, right? But even the patch for 15 was out within about a month, while it's now been over three months since 16 was released. There isn't even a page for it on the official website yet.

>>17911176
Maybe he couldn't work on it precisely because of the Steam dealio.

Hopefully. Leaving ridiculous bugs in is one thing in a shitty spinoff nobody likes, but in a mainline game?

I bought touhou on steam, and Extra is already unlocked and all my other replays are there from the CD version, which is located on a whole different HDD
How?

>>17911349
It's probably located in your document folder on the OS drive.

>>17911349
check AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice

>>17911353
>>17911352
Sure enough, there it is.
I still thought it was stored in a .dat file somewhere in the game folder.
Thanks for the info.

is it worth enabling vsync for 2hu? not asking about the input lag removal which is obviously good but the actual vsync you can set to 1 in vpatch.ini

>>17911747
You have set the vsync to 0. Thats the objective of the patch.

>>17909665
Just cleared the stage. Unlocking it was bit of a chore since I haven't even touched easy or hard difficulties but the stage itself wasn't really that different from extra.

>>17906180
Where can I find more of this descriptions?

>>17912123
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=181.0

just beat TH6 extra, gonna start TH7. I cleared EOSD extra with Marisa A.

Should I pick Marisa A or Marisa B in PCB? In TH6 it was an easy choice because Marisa A had such a stronger shot, but I heard in PCB that Marisa B has both a stronger focused shot AND better bombs?

>>17912386
>>17914014
just read this and it seems like marisa B is a better pick in nearly every way

>>17914014
Why don't you people just test the characters yourself and play what feels comfortable?

Am i making this too hard for myself by playing IN with solo reimu? Should i just play with the team?

>>17914149
Yes you should play with a team. Both Youkai and Human part of the team usually contribute something that helps and solo Reimu isn't even a good shottype otherwise.

>>17914014
>>17914053

Reimu is red
Cirno is blue
there's always some autist
who's better than you

Is vpatch effect for LoLK noticeable?

>>17914149
Play solo Yukari, it's better than both.

>>17915740
Rule of thumb is that if there is a vpatch for the game, you use it.

I started playing bit over one month ago. How's my progress?

StB is hard.

>>17915930
Your chart hurts to look at. Here, use this one instead.
Also nice progress.

EoSD in hard is hard

My dick is hard.

>>17916268
It's hard to mark down NB or stuff like that when you mess up the boxes like that

>>17916275
On the contrary, I found it to be among the easiest Hard modes. Or rather, it's the only one I can properly do.
>>17915930
>>17916268
Coward. Man up and clear them with the weak shot types, too.

>>17915930
>>17916268
These charts make it seem like clears with any shot is worth the same as clears with any other shot, when they really aren't.
A Chiyuri 1cc and a Yumemi 1cc in PoDD aren't the same. An Alice solo 1cc and Border Team 1cc in IN aren't the same. A Marisa B 1cc and a Sanae B 1cc in UFO aren't the same. Etc.

>>17916393
But using characters you don't like just for the sake of filling a chart is not fun.

>>17916708
I guess that Marisa must be really unpopular because noone is using her in LoLK. Or Sanae in TD.

>>17916708
you don't have to fill the chart
you don't have to play above easy and not use continues

>>17916725
I meant shot types not popularity.

>>17916753
Looks like you completely missed point of my post.

>>17916751
If you have fun playing easy with continues then whats the problem? Do you hate fun or something?

>>17916756
Please explain

>>17916760
Does this girl have a good shottype in the game? Of course she's the best girl. Is it bad? Nah, worthless trash.

I fought Shinmyoumaru for the first time in my life. She kicked my ass. I got to her survival and then the hilt of one of those knives got me.

>>17916767
I don't google the best shot type for every game. I just play default Reimu and if it feels bad I test something else until I find what feels good. For example in EoSD ReimuA felt lacking in damage and ReimuB too slow so I played MarisaA and B. MarisaB's bomb was horrible in extra since iframes are useless when you can't damage your opponent so I cleared it with A.

>>17916708
You don't to it for the sake of filling a chart, you do it for the sake of clearing the game without crutches, thus improving yourself, and also for the sake of seeing all the content.
Besides, if you didn't care, you wouldn't keep or post a chart in the first place.
>>17916786
Yeah, that spell is bullshit. Even more so with characters other than Reimu, since the focused hitbox sprite doesn't even come close to matching your actual hitbox. Some people seem to find it relatively easy with practice, but I'd recommend focusing your efforts elsewhere and just bombing through it.

>>17916275
EoSD hard is basically EoSD normal with new spellcards

>>17916791
Funny because EoSD is actually fairly balanced.

>>17916868
My only motivation to play these games is to defeat all extra bosses and I'm improving while I practice them. No need to play characters I'm not having fun just to see a slightly different ending.

damn, those games waste no time stripping me of my sense of self-worth

>>17908124
meister isn't too hard to increase consistency on but you need to practice it regularly. i used to be not even 10% on it, and these days my caprate is around 40%. you'll naturally pick up good habits the more you attempt it
stuff like books or killing doll on the other hand are fucking impossible and require talent

>>17916786
Make sure you can afford to lose a life to that spell card. Learn to dodge the first wave at the very least, even if you can't do the turns, you can bomb through it and only lose one life (Assuming you don't have 3 bombs at the start of the card.)

>>17917045
I find KD much easier than meister, I love having the time to analyze and process the knives, and at the very least, I'll 1M KD instead of the risk of a 2M meister

I agree with you on books being impossible, requiring genetics, rng, and a good upbringing to cap

HSiFS hard mode stage 4 doesn't make sense

>>17917606
Play as Reimu with spring option for maximum confusion.

>>17917634
Wait, fuck, thats stage 3. Disregard.

>>17917574
KD is a lot more random than meister. Of course meister can randomly give you really shit RNG and nearly wall you, but it's generally more predictable than KD as long as you don't fuck up. That's why it's harder to improve at KD in my opinion. Even if you think you're improving - the next day you might find yourself struggling with it all over again.

>>17917634
>>17917639
too confusing

EoSD extra is really kicking my teeth in and i'm progressing at a snail pace. But I will persevere.

Fuck you patchy.

>>17917766
I know how you feel.
The major hurdles in the stage portion are the fairy right before Patche, all three of her cards, and the last wave of books; everything else is pretty easy, mostly streaming. I practiced the fairy and Silent Selene since they're the easiest, then bombed through the other three. Going into Flan with four lives gives you enough wiggle room to fuck up one or two of her harder spells and still get a clear.
Also, this took me a while to notice, but that big fairy is actually invincible until it finishes shooting, so don't worry about trying to stay centered to shoot it down.

>>17917827
But Royal Flare is static.

I did it, jaypee! I've finally 1cc'd normal with all shot types! (except for the Phantasmagoria games, but I don't really like them as much).
It is not simply about checking boxes. As >>17916615 pointed out, different shot types give different enough experiences for it to be fun most of the time. For example, the last 1cc I got was LoLK Legacy Marisa, which was entirely different from Reimu (who has a much easier time with stages, thanks to homing), Sanae (who can get easy extra lives thanks to her bomb) and Reisen (who breaks the game). Getting different endings is also really nice.

I'll finish the 3 remaining extras, then it's finally time to get started on hard.