/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>17842672
> not calling it "Aigis is kill thread"

>>17842691
I don't name em and no need to stoke that fire, already pretty high as it is.

>>17842672
should be general kamihime and DMM thread by now

>>17842691
>Aigis is kill
I can now kind of understand how people in Constantinople felt when they were told that the Roman Empire had fallen.

What's the drop rate on the 5 star character on Iolite's raid.

I've practically soloed the boss on hard 50 times now and only gotten an SR healer staff

Next thread probably needs to swap the Aigis wiki link to the DMM English wiki instead of only leaving the unit list in.

Also apparently Harem Battle updated their Kanpani wiki to have all of the new DMM girls in it (even the Illya collab units), so maybe we should link that as an English wiki for the DMM version?

If you haven't seen already, the dump now has the OST and chara CG, among other things.
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Kuremisago/So_the_Game_is_Shutting_Down,_Now_What%3F

So since nutaku are some inept motherfuckers, does the dmm version at least offer something like a start dash pick ticket? I would prefer to avoid more rerolling if possible.

>>17842889
No, there is no black ticket at lvl 10 and no new prince support pack in the shop, we only joked about that like a hundred times to confuse you.

Union raid incoming!

Of fiery whores that buff their Atk with HP lost.

Good times. Get your Pride SSR bow and SR assault weapons boys.

Thinking of DMM Aigis

As a newbie what should I keep in mind?

>>17842737
I'm American so please explain

>>17843102
Check the wiki

>>17843102
Watch youtube videos so that you don't screw up and waste stamina.
As soon as you're stuck you can buy the buffs from the shop to help.
Spend exactly 150 crystals in a single month however you see fit so that you get the Legend stamp card next month.
Use plat armor x 3 spirits to raise levels when it's too costly to do otherwise.
Prioritize Archers.

I doubt there's anything else you'll need.

>>17842803
Yea, the DMM one should be at least added.
When I started there were many things missing but now they even have a page for reprint missions.

>>17843109
I'm American and I understand the reference just fine. Look up some history in your free time, it does wonders for you later on.

So, what's your guess for the flower of this girl? There's a recap of predictions on the 2ch blog (http://fkg.blog.jp/archives/73426756.html)), and I think an azalea is the likeliest.

I hope she'll be a free gift, though that would make me regret that the cute merchant girl didn't win the April fools contest instead. What would they have done if one of the dragons won? Did they actually plan this far ahead?

>>17843374
I didn't vote for her, so I'm sadly not so invested.

>Got enough Jack-O-Lanterns to limit break in time

whew.

Does anyone else really play/talk about Armor Blitz in here or should I go looking elsewhere? I'm really enjoying all these cute tank and tank-like girls but I've only seen a very little bit of discussion before when it first launched.

>>17843666
You're better off checking their own advertised discord server.

>nutaku is shutting down the one legitimately good game on their entire website
YOU
FUCKING
WHAT
MATE

>>17843689
Japanese games are old and busted, western games are the new hot.

>>17843689
K-kamipro is getting shut down?

>>17843694
Soon, after they are done with FKG.

Oh Morgan is finally out with this Union event

>>17844010
Is she worth getting, or should I save my points for Shingen?

>>17844040
Save for Shingen first, since Morgan needs a buff later to become more useful.

Will my luck ever turn around? My last black was in January.

>>17844135
I just rolled 110 SC, the feeling of wanting to die gets more numb every month. Maybe one day I can finally stop caring. But I know that day will never come.

>>17844186
450SC and counting. It never ends.

Anyway, here's Elementaler SAW. Clarice got more broken, as expected.


Clarice: Darkness Possession
For 30s, ATK/DEF 1.5x, gains true dmg splash attacks (45s reuse)

Loretta: Fire Possesssion
For 25s, ATK/DEF 1.5x, gains rapid-fire magic attacks (30s reuse)

Xiao-Mei: Earth Possession
For 40s, ATK/DEF 1.5x, allies in range gain 1.5x def (70s reuse)

Cenote: Water Spirit's Purification
For 40s (46 with AW ability), ATK/DEF 1.5x, nearby allies are cured of ailments (like Liana maybe) (45s reuse)

Haruka: Wind Spirit's Thunder
For 15s ATK/DEF 2.0x, upon activation hits up to 5 enemies within range with magic

Is it just Nutaku Aigis going or is DMM Aegis dying too?

>>17844296
There are a few doomsayers here and there, but it's a top 5-10 regulars on DMM so they have to be insane to take it down. Especially when the competitive scenes on DMM are really fierce nowadays.

>>17844296
Yeah anon. Look how low it is in the rankings.

Honestly though: I don't remember a single DMM game that would announce a service termination while staying at the top 5. Or even top 10.

>see Ea
>dat scene preview
>my 13k jewels are endangered
Be still my dick, I don't want to stay team water forever

Would someone kindly explain the deal with the Aigis daily quests? I thought I got enough points to get the chibis, but here I stand chibiless.

This is my himefu, say something nice about her

>>17844547
Getting more points only unlocks better rewards for the gacha associated with it. You only have a chance at a chibi from that. I'm sorry to say but if you didn't pull on it you wasted a good amount of effort from last month as it has now reset for this month.

>>17844547
He thinks he will ever get anything but dupe golds.

>>17844569
For R hime she has better kit than average SR.
Use her until you get your true himefu (Amaterasu)

>>17844573
I got a new gold (male)
Sold him a couple days after because just having him in my roster pissed me off.

>>17844010
Did they at least add Yukimura too so I can start working towards Shingen?

>>17842672
From which game is this qt?

>>17844800
Cenote from Aigis.
>>17844040
While this is true >>17844065, In case you are guildless and struggling you will probably have to choose one or the other for a long time. If you're Wind and thinking long-term, going Morgan could be a better idea since she has best synergies post buff and post soul weapons with that element.
I personally regretted having gone Shingen as a lazy solo player, I still don't have her and now she's way better than Shingen all around.

>>17844368
you're just gonna get cucked because her 2nd and 3rd scenes are with the MC
what irony

I just gathered my first 400~ rainbow crystals. Should I go for the ticket or something else, like Leona?

>>17842716
FKG gets more attention than K/hime, just counted the post in the past 3 threads. So it should be called FKG and Kamihime thread.

>>17844800
Aigis, OP only know how to post Aigis pics 99% of the time.

>>17844931
Gambling is more fun. You have a decent chance to get a black. But if you want Leona for your team, go ahead, her skill is quite good it seems.

>>17844931
Leona is one of the best plats and belongs to a very crucial class, so if you want consistency, go with her. But I personally would just buy a ticket on the off chance that I'd get a black.

Also, these inner majin maps are outright comfortable compared to the demon rat/dark elemental/goblin boar extravaganza. I'm also pleasantly reminded of Abadox: the Deadly Inner War. Are we also going to march triumphantly out of Leviathan's anus?

>>17845024
I thought the FKG posts mostly concerned the DMM side, rather than Nutaku?

Rolled 130 SC, Only got 3 plats, but at least I got a black, what to with her?

>>17845200
The advent of the most retarded questions humanly possible is upon us.

>Go to pick up points for today in karma gacha
>Accidently roll
2nd time I did that. I wish the button wasn't so big and right there.

AN ATTEMPT WAS MADE

>>17845027
Yeah, mainly since I only play Aigis and find getting related pics easier because of it. If people don't care about it being just a random picture I can try to use other game pictures.

Why the fuck is OldMen so dead. How am I suppose to get carried and get all the awesome rewards in the union event.

>>17845457
The active ones moved to Embryon.

>>17845439
Nah, keep up the Aigis pictures.

>get 3 SSRs in the Phantom Greed pre-reg
>all dupes
still keeping them

>>17845200
3 plats and a black is a very good haul for 130 SC, especially considering the units you've gotten.

Rinne is a staple in any team with access to her, the importance of multi-target healing in high-end stages can't be overstated. Shade has permanent true damage and status immunity with her regular skill after AW, both of which are rare and valuable in melee units. Dahlia requires a lot of investment but is a competent UP generator that hits ~2.5k attack with her SAW, allowing her to ramp off high-defense enemies in addition to your usual early game trash. Balous is a gimmicky tank that is unhealable but reflects damage and can be redeployed after she's taken out, she's useful but I wouldn't prioritize her unless you find her cute.

>>17844867
That's the best part
Healing used goods are my favorite scenes

Well look at that, Aigis is going away and another shoddy western game springs up to take it's place. It's getting kind of predictable now.

>>17844135
>Kuremisago
Gotcha bitch

>>17845439
>Want to use Kamihime as OP pic.
>The fanart is almost non-existant
JUST

>>17845613
Oh fuck you're right.
I don't know he's a /jp/ lurker

Life popped up and had to stop playing FKG and GS. What happened to the latter? I thought it went down to release the mobile version but then it's talking about a renewal?

>>17845613
>>17845619
He posts all the time

>>17845621
Closed down in september, planned to re-start soon with mobile app.

>>17845621
It was sold to another company. They opted to take it down and overhaul it. It's been down for... 5-6 weeks? I forget. Some time in mid to late September, I want to say, was when it went down. Now they're teasing it coming back soon. We don't know much more about what's going on than that. The announcement was sudden at the end of an event and they immediately ended the cross-promotion with FKG and everything as soon as it was announced.

>>17845631
>sold to another company
They said "new management", it doesn't have to mean new company. Maybe old management had to commit sudoku and they hired new ones.

>>17845621
Game wasn't doing too well due to being a sub-par FKG with less free campaigns (think a slightly more generous EN FKG), devs decided to take it down and hand it to a new team instead of giving it up to the "steady descent to bottom followed by service closure" route.

>>17843689
>DevTea is shutting down the one legitimately good game on Nutaku website
Fixed that for you.

>>17845631
>It was sold to another company.
That sucks, being developed by the FKG guys made it a pretty considerate game for collecting with the comfy events and everflowing gems. Was waiting for the mobile version to resume playing it.

A new company might not be as generous.

>>17845639
Oh, that sounds a lot better than selling it to another company. Guess I can be optimistic about that.

>>17845646
Fuck off, faggot

man, the new storyline mission in Aigis is nasty

>>17845687
>he thinks Nutaku would just close a cashcow they didn't even work on, only host
Keep believing in the Canadian boogeyman and Japanese saints, retard.

>>17845710
Because Nutaku is a perfect company and have never fucked up anything ever. Keep playing your shit cuckbait and 90's simpsons porn tier garbage like your overlord demands goy.

>>17845715
Nutaku is shit at a lot of things, but all the signs in this case point to DevTea being fucking cunts who are tired of milking stupid gaijins.

>>17845718
> developers got tired of getting free money just after they implemented SAW and did back-to-back events for half a year
Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound?
I'm fairly sure that contract term was ending and Nutaku was pushing for renegotiation on different terms, so JP side just said "fuck you, we are tired of your constant bullshit, you want different terms? How about you get no fucking game at all, greedy canadians."

>>17845652
Yeah, I think there's hope for it. It was still in a salvageable position (~20-30 or so in rankings?) when the rehaul announcement was made, and we have a precedent in a game bouncing back from a worse situation in Shiropro (which went into hiatus after a godawful first event, if memory serves, and came back as a long-term top-ranker).

I like FKG's theme more than GS, but MDZ is a cutie and I hope she sticks around. She should at least get into FKG alongside Anri, there are plenty of flowers that would fit her personality.

>>17845729
MUH CANADIAN BOOGEYMAN ALL DEY WANT IS YO MONEYS UNLIKE GLORIOUS NIHONIANS WHO DINDU NUFFIN
>I'm fairly sure that contract term was ending and Nutaku was pushing for renegotiation on different terms
And that's automatically bad? DevTea was fucking lazy and shit at development of Nutaku Aigis. 4 month break with no apology or makeup. Late events. Late revivals. Missing features. Missing units. Zero communication. Zero clarity. Shitty translation quality. I'm willing to forigve skipping/censoring some things like the incest/lolis since apparently that was Nutaku's (later revoked) condition.

Nutaku was always pretty explicit that they gather feedback from the playerbase and send it back. I'm fairly certain that if what you're saying is the case then Nutaku got tired of zero improvement or lack of willingness to communicate and maybe did try to have more control over the implementation.
Remember that they did promise exactly that and apparently DevTea pulled out of that deal.

All the more reason to fuck DevTea if they got butthurt over filthy gaijins daring to ask to take things into their own hands.

>>17845638
>また、本リニューアルを実施するにあたり、運営（製作会社）の変更を行わせていただき、お客様にさらに満足のいただけるよう改善をおこなってまいります。

I mean my moon isn't so good, but doesn't the part in the parentheses say that it was given to another company?

>>17845732
Did we ever get to lewd the Tyrant Queen MDZ though? I only remember teases from the Story Chapters.

>>17845766
Yes, my bad, I misremembered things.

>>17845767
She gave paizuri in bunny suite to PC in last story chapter.

>2017/11/01 16:00
>Maintenance(11/01/2017)
>2017/11/01 20:00
>Maintenance Complete!
>2017/11/01 20:05
>Emergency Ended
>himeless SSR weapons still in the gacha
Oh god they're actually going to do it, aren't they? They're going to fucking keep them in some sick fucking milking scheme.

>>17845766
Back to cautiously optimistic then.

>>17845776
What a tease. Only a little more too.

>>17845784
>more money with zero effort
>jewtaku
Who would have thought

>>17842672
>master1200

>>17845710
Aren't there communities for sucking Nutaku's dick? Why don't you stay over there?

>>17845905
Nice argument.
Nutaku is merely the lesser evil in the Aigis case, that's all I'm saying.

>>17845911
You say this with zero knowledge of what actually happened other than the word of a company that happily hosts a game that steals all of it's artwork from random artists and announced the localization of a game without ever even getting in contact with the company that held the rights to it. You've gotta be absolutely fucking naive if you think Nutaku's stupidity had absolutely no impact on what happened.

>600 stones
>20 tickets
I hate this fucking piece of shit game.

>>17845927
roll some more, anon!

>>17845924
You say this shit with zero knowledge and even less common sense.
We have all the reasons to believe DevTea are just assholes and Nutaku are just scummy and want to make money.
You've gotta be absolutely fucking deluded if you think Nutaku is the devil and DevTea actually care about pleasing the gaijin fanbase.

>>17845940
I'm not praising DevTea is saints though, you're just projecting your Nutaku dicksucking onto everyone else because you're enough of a dumb fucking monkey to play anything on their website.

>>17845955
A lot of irrational hatred for someone who claims not to even use their services.
Is it REALLY that hard to notice that DevTea is much more likely to take a fat steaming log of shit on the gaijin Nutaku fanbase rather than Nutaku itself??
You're the one projecting here, I'm just pointing out the lesser evils, Nutaku is still plenty cancerous which is what I started this little exchange with in the first place.

Guys, guys.

They’re both shit.

>>17845974
Part of my point exactly.
But in the specific case of the localized version of Aigis, all signs point to DevTea being more shit than Nutaku, partly because we never got to see how shit Nutaku would be at handling it.

>>17845979
Wasn't Nutaku handling some of these DMM games that got closed recently?

>>17846023
Just the bad ones.

>>17846039
>>17845979
>we never got to see how shit Nutaku would be at handling it.
yeah, censored loli wan't Nutaku's fault, Nutaku dindu nuthin
>kanpani
>bad
Fuck off cocksucker

Can we go back to talking about cute girls.
Aigis is dead on nutaku, it's over nothing is going to change it.

>>17845979
>all signs
There's no evidence whatsoever about it other than what Nutaku said, and Nutaku was caught lying many times. They ALWAYS blame JP devs for literally everything, and if you believe that otherwise successful and very competent developer teams all suddenly become xenophobic assholes the moment they start working with nutaku, there's something very wrong with your head.

Well at least the this dev team showed they can make an event that isn't complete shit if they try.
It was kind of long considering the first 4 difficulties were mostly autoable, but the grind was much less tedious than raid events.

>>17846112
Forgot my image.

>>17846116
what game? those are some big funbags

>>17846118
Can't member during bonus drops week, is it more gold efficient to do G armor H or is it still X?

>>17846116
I'm going to return only if they're going to rebalance the raid event type.

Because we have an event where you have to grind autobattles like a madman all week long even to get the basic rewards, not talking about max lb. The only upside of which is that you don't really run out of stamina/event stamina.
And then we have this new event type where you get the same reward(I assume it's also a girl, a weapon and an armor?), but it's three times easier.

>>17845524
thanks anon

>>17846112
>>17846145
Will I have time to do the event if I start now? Been busy lately and forgot about the game.

>>17846156
I guess yes

[WAKE ME UP]

>>17846118
Re:Bless

>>17846145
Yeah I'm hoping for some kind of raid rebalance, but not expecting it soon since they work kind of slow.

>>17846156
You might be cutting it close since the last diffculty took me a little over a day(I think 4 logins) to clear, but if you use a few diamonds it should be doable. One of the missions still gives 50 diamonds so spending a few on refills won't be that bad.

>>17846088
It was clear that Nutaku was telling the truth that Aigis was being run by the japanese devs atleast and from there its easy to tell whats happened without a word from Nutaku.
As for being xenophobic, many japanese gaming companies have been and this has only been changing recently.

Just because Nutaku have lied and are shit doesn't mean the other side is in the right.

>>17846216
>It was clear
No it is not. There's no evidence whatsoever.

Can someone tell me what would be the best black unit to pick with level 10 ticket to go with Lapis?

I was leaning toward Elyse or Aisha but wouldnt want to miss a good synergy, also read somewhere that Moltena is OP tier too but kinda new so I really dont know

>>17846229
Honestly pick with your dick so you're happier. I picked Alice with mine since she made me the most tingly.

>tfw costumes in Aigis with costume sprites
I hope they never do that, my dick couldn't handle it.

>>17846225
You believe that Nutaku, a english speaking company would put translations into the game that the majority of native english speakers have trouble deciphering? The entire game was riddled with it.

>A lot reduce HP at enemy is chance for kill to one hit.

>>17846253
Unfortunately we'll never get to see Silly Girl as a black unit or Hibari put into the gacha now.

>>17846253
Thanks for reminding me. That was Mikoto, right? I lost my screenshot of it ages ago.

>>17846269
Yeah it was Mikoto, she's still one of the cutest in DMM after all this time.

>>17846112
I liked the event, mainly because there was no ranking involved to complete the SSR girl / equip.

What I didn't like was the event taking up all my stamina to the point where I didn't even get to do the new story missions yet, and didn't get to do dailies.

Also, Orga (Olga?) is useless, not cute and doesn't deserve that healer badge she's flaunting.

>>17846253
>You believe that Nutaku, a english speaking company would put translations into the game that the majority of native english speakers have trouble deciphering?
Yes.
Moreover, NutakuDev himself claimed first that these translations are produced by Nutaku, not devs. If you believe Nutaku so much, you must believe that these are their translations.
Go read his posts https://vndb.org/u98902/posts, he's very specific that 1) it was nutaku who produced texts for Aigis, 2) he believes these texts are good, 3) he can fix them if someone points out mistakes.

Quite different from their current stance "we didn't do anything, its completely in dev's hands", eh?

>>17846229
Moltena is the best for beginners and is still really good end game too, synergy or not. She can carry you through most stuff even before AW. She'll be really powerful when she's AW and SAW. If not her I'd pick Elyse over Aisha since I think she will be more useful to you in the beginning. Aisha's skill range is pretty small before skill awakening. I really like Moltena and I'm considering leveling my second free copy.
I also suggest you don't "pick with your dick". It's better to get an efficient team up and running first so you can start to maximize your missions and stuff. After you get enough decent units then you can start to "pick with your dick".

>>17846325
The only thing that Nutaku could have translated was the character scenes, everything else was done by japanese with very little english knowledge. They weren't great but they were decent enough, errors were never fixed though. At the point of that post character scenes were 99% of the translations so it wasn't exactly untrue if he said he did all translations.
I said myself that Nutaku lie and are shit in the previous post so I don't believe everything they say. Don't blindly believe convienent halftruths and put a little thought into it.

In terms of skill there is no way Nutaku was incharge of the games devolopment. Look at all the bugs that games like FKG have, coming back every few months because they're so inept. Aigis was silky smooth in comparison to the DMM version because it was run by people who knew exactly what they were doing. Don't confuse devolopment for content here.

>>17846253
>a english speaking company would put translations into the game that the majority of native english speakers have trouble deciphering?
Shit like that happens a lot since Google translate.

>>17846458
While thats believable, even google translate has been proved to be better than many aigis translations.

So, the fourth FKG-only convention Jabjab Maidoari begins today. There's plenty of participation as usual, including official artists in Naruse Mamoru (Galium tapestry/clear files), Nakamura B-ta (two H-books on Cyclamen and White Clover, plus various character art), Urozuki Akira (new artbook with loli/adult Cattleya on cover, plus his previous book and Cactus body pillow), Asanoha (art on some of FKG's loli selection, including an even lewder Daisy), TAKTO (Bergenia/Stewartia/Habranthus phone covers, Bergenia/Shion blankets, a vacuum flask featuring most of his girls, and a pretty dashing Achillea jacket).

Also notable is an original Flower Knight Girl TRPG, which should be very interesting (it even comes with one of these illustrated session recaps that seem to be popular in the Japanese tabletop scene), but something that niche is unlikely to be scanned. Lastly, the true highlight of the event is a collaborative, 28-page glasses artbook headed by the Sweet Crops circle, it really is a joy to see such impeccable taste from so many illustrators.

If you want, you can check the じゃぶマイ tag on Twitter to see all the wondrous things that we'll never be getting. Speaking of which, C93 placement confirmations also started to come for many FKG artists, looks like December will be a good month for FKG fanbooks too (and this being Comiket, they may even get scanned).

>>17846480
>If you want, you can check the じゃぶマイ tag on Twitter to see all the wondrous things that we'll never be getting.

I've made it a habit to not open twitter right before / during events like Comiket and such since the suffering due to unsatisfied WANT would be too much to bear.

Good to see FKG is doing this well though, it's the only DMM game I've stick with for more than a year. Hopefully, some of the doujins will make it to tora/melonbooks.

>>17846480
those are some nice titties, and here I thought FKG was a lolicon game

>>17846480
>White Clover
>lewder Daisy

Being gaijin is suffering.

What did you guys choose for Ashera? I want Selene since more range / armpits seems better compared to minus frames and the cooldown.

>>17846325
NutakuDev was an incompetent piece of shit and was fired years ago.

How's the union grind going? That atk up buff can be fun.

>>17846586
Rapid shooter sprite was too silly for me, so I went Selene. I would have liked the frame reduction but the range is nice.

I gave Adele her SAW
did I do good?

>>17846778
I thought the frame reduction would be a damage loss since it would clip off skills like Nanaly's, but I guess it doesn't affect Ashera as badly?

go back to old account that i made with my main account

get aisha from black ticket
ibuki and koharu from month ticket
towa,moltena,ashera,rinne and machina from pulls

fuck my main account it has pull 1 black in 1 and half yrs

>>17846794
I think that rapid shooter reduces the 'standby' frames after the attack animation by a percentage. Since Nanaly has a very short standby period, the reduction accumulates to just about nothing significant, but it doesn't actually make her worse than she already was. I think Ashera would get 2 extra shots with full use of her skill in rapid shooter. There's probably some damage loss here and there due to projectile mechanics in certain cases.

I know it´s not Aigis, nothing will ever be ;-;, but can we get some hopes for this?

>>17846999
It has a literal anthro pony on the right side.

>>17846999
It's another western made game, so it already has a lot of negatives to push through.

>>17846999
Most of the art looks terrible but it does look like this game did manage to get some good artists to make a few girls at least.

Is nutaku kamipro going slow for anyone else?

>>17847055
it's going under too
rev up those chargebacks

Lilim Ira is pretty cute.

Progress after 5 months in game so far. Roast me

>>17847564
I hope that isn't actually your strongest team.

>>17847564
wewlad.

>>17847570
Nope. This is. Underwhelming to look at

>>17847564
There's no excuse that can possibly justify 14k after 5 months. Well done you lazy fuck.

>>17847564
>>17847586
I'm almost 8 months into nutaku KamiPro and have pulled nothing but gem Rs and event SRs, so I'm in no position to roast you. Attack power and rank notwithstanding, congrats on your hime pulls, including my beloved アーシラト.

>>17847622
Kamihime during its first year was fucking awful. Thing only started to get better after the 1st anniversary and the major overhaul for event rewards afterward.
Though, as thing stand, it's impossible to tell if Nutaku players are getting the same treatment as DMM side.

>>17847674
It's impossible to tell if Nutaku's even making it to the first anniversary.

>>17846629
>was fired years ago
No, he wasn't. He was still posting about Nutaku in official capacity in 2016.

The fact that raid kamihime tickets are also tied to gacha RNG and thus subject to dupe hell is so fucking dumb.
They should just let you trade them in the shop.

On a more positive note I'm glad Samael is taking her sweet time to be released, 10k jewels, 6 tickets, 1 kamihime ticket in stock, and even being a total lazy shit I can make it to 12k easily, probably 15k even

>>17847586
>Rank 33
>15k combat power
>0LBs everywhere
That looks more like a week of progress, not 5 months. KP is one of those games that you actually have to play if you even want a chance to get anywhere in it.

My 1-year old F2P alt account, which was purely a raid slut for my main the first few months, is now up to 15 SSRs and all elements between 45-52k combat power, because I developed its weapon grids and started clearing events after the event rewards update.

>>17846229
B.Iris

What are those new honor guest for this week?

>>17848024
*quests

>>17848024
Nothing special, since there's no event this week. Clear 1/3/5/10 emergency missions.

>>17848067
thx

>>17847979
Now that's a good roast to make me feel bad and keep playing. Keep it coming

Is there any downside to staying water forever?

roll with dick, or not? I feel like if I keep planning my shit I'll just drop the game

>>17848067
>there's no event this week
It feels really weird when that happens, I don't know what to do during weeks like this

>>17848357
farm dailies? I doubt you're swimming in gold if you're actually awakening your team

>>17844570
Ah. I gotcha. Thanks very much for the clarification. I just play casually, but I suppose I should actually read shit now and again instead of assuming.

>>17848272
Not if you have a decent (not even end game) Wind grid too. No such thing as rainbow meta for now, the only hard thing with pigeonholing yourself into one element would be Guild Order with specific requirements (Specific Soul, R Himes etc.). Even then, you can get most rewards without completing all missions so it doesn't matter that much (you're not going to need that many crystals if you only play one element anyways).
Of course there's always the risk that they will introduce stuff like boss resistance to off-element stuff which will force rainbow meta, who knows.

>>17848321
rolling with dick will always make you happier

Where can I look into hscenes for upcoming kamihime? The jp wiki has some anal rules that prohibit R-18 stuff

>>17848364
>Ready to AW2 Ashera and Alice
>Their orb dailies were days before 1.5
Actual suffering.

>>17848677
>The jp wiki has some anal rules that prohibit R-18 stuff
Yep, it's fairly retarded. I've seen the scenes of other games described just fine in other wikis. There's nothing you can do about it, except asking around elsewhere.

>can no longer hold back my dick's desire for Ea
>pull a single 3k
>get this
THANK YOU BASED DICK, I WON'T EVER DOUBT YOU AGAIN

>>17849077
Dumb mongrel

>>17849077
You're the guy who likes to heal used goods right? You're a scholar and the gacha has rewarded you for your fine taste.

>roll my ticket
>this ugly piece of shit
tell me she's good at least

>>17849157
Best tank in the game.

And take that back, you monster.

>>17849137
>the guy who likes to heal used goods
Yeah, that's me, thanks
I hope you roll your hime effortlessly as well

>>17849157
take that back

>>17849157
Probably the worst art relative to the character's usefulness in the whole game. Art overhaul when.

>>17849077
>>17849137
>>17849157
>>17849163
>>17849164
Here is another case of used good purification

>>17849164
I actually think all the dark knights look universally shittier after awakening

It's why I've never even leveled up Yurina, she looks fucking awful after awakening even though she's a 9/10 before it

>>17849217
I actually agree. I am hoping 2AW will offer a path that lets them revert to dark powers

>>17849257
The fallen angel girl can go back to being a dark angel/original appearance in her AW2 right

>>17849276
The Azraels look dark/evil, yeah

>>17849217
Danchou disagrees.

>>17849299
>actually keeps his dark motif instead of going full 180
that's why

>>17849299
He will become white knight after 2AW, mark my words

>>17849332
I will be very disappointed if there isn't a cute girl in a micro bikini underneath that armor.

>>17849350
>Danchou was a sexually confused baka with huge knockers all this time
I'd buy it

>>17849196
>Art overhaul when.
Its ranked 4th among the girls that the nips likes more in Aigis...Its the taste of thousands against one.

>>17849467
Expect that to change this year, only around one month left for the poll, although honestly this year there wasn't that many cute girls, nearly all of them where in the empire gacha.

>>17847564
>>17847586
>>17847590
>>17847979
I'm going to agree with anon who said that you actually have to play and dedicate enough time to Kamihime to actually make progress in your team's power.

That said, I myself have a pretty low-tier grid and I've been playing since the game's release on DMM. I cannot bring myself to play it properly because my connection to Kamihime servers sucks ass(e.g. I have to reload the game a few times when reading new dialogues because the game can randomly stop downloading voice/art/bgm data and sit there).

Nevertheless I've been having fun reading event summon and character stories and H-scenes.
I don't like rape or ntr, but I like consensual gangbangs and light femdom/reverse rape so I'm glad Kmhm has them. Or had. Not anymore apparently.

>>17849467
That doesn't necessarily mean they like the sub-par art so much as her overall concept. Though I guess they probably wouldn't risk touching her.

Guess it's time to fire up my old DMM Aigis account.

>log in
>~63 crystals waiting for me in my inbox
IT'S BARRACKS TIME BOYS

So I've got Moltena and Blansh now. I guess I finally will not have regrets about making Moltena beastmaster, since Blansh is trainer.

>>17849077
>Tfw hoping the same thing will happen to me with Osiris in the upcoming advent

Whoa peropero seduction died on dmm?! When and why did that happen? I even spent money on that game years ago, there were some good memories and people in that game ;_;

>>17849979
It shut down in 2016 on DMM. For why, probably because they weren't doing so well in rankings, considering they used to be one of the top 3 on DMM. I think around the time they got shut down they were hovering around 10th-15th

>>17845030
not the same guy but I just did that.

>>17850074
Not as bad as you think, any shrine healer is a good healer and Mia further boosts your gold gain after AW.

You'll want a feng shui sooner or later due to poison maps anyway, she's certainly valuable if you're starting out.

>>17850080
Forgot to mention already have a Marr and the same unit which I don't use because already lvl'd Marr. Now I have to invest in another healer because of that 1 cr.

>>17850093
Ah, I see. Marr is better and -1 CR doesn't matter due to monthly quests giving you a ton of bond fairies, so you don't really need to raise Mia (unless you want the gold bonus, which is still a good incentive).

>>17850074
I'm that guy. Gambled, got Patra. I doubt I'll get a black before many many more tries knowing my luck with maximum rarities from other games.
Then again I tend to get good stuff when I do get something. Patra's comments in the wiki seems to indicate she's ok?

>>17850093
Actually nevermind, just realised I had to invest in her some time anyway because of that gold skill.

>>17850109
She looks like a mage with healing skill for emergencies. Pretty good if you ask me, I'd switch with what I got anytime.

>>17850109
She's essentially a mage with a longer-than-usual cooldowns on her attack up IV skill (which has a heal effect tacked on, but it's fairly irrelevant in most situations, I wish it worked on unhealable classes or something).

Then again, mages are useful and attack up is always good, so it's not like she's terrible. I've been able to use her in most maps, including some level 5-10 majin (but do note that magic damage is usually bad in majin due to magic resistance being everywhere) and the recent story content.

>>17850109
Unfortunately you just missed the subjugation where she would have truely shined in. Having a skill with a nice little heal on activation is fairly niche and hurts the uptime/cooldown efficiency of the skill but if you can get value from it it'll probably be great.

>>17850131
>>17850137
>>17850143
Thanks. I just started a month ago so I can't really tackle anything over level 3-4 in the current majin map, I doubt that will be my main concern any time soon, for better or for worse.

>>17850153
>I can't really tackle anything over level 3-4 in the current majin map
That's still very impressive for a month of play.

Out of curiosity, how does your team look like?

Finally managed to hold back and save 150 SC. Any banner worth rolling?

>>17850161
I think it's pretty much all over the place, I don't feel any synergy at all. I wish Rinne could heal Cenote's tokens.
I have some other silver/revival plats leveled too but nothing else.
I think the halved cost on story maps that begun when I started playing inflated my level very quickly. I had to spend excess charisma on the subjugation event because I would get more exp leveling up than I spent farming the map (the desert 後 one), and I got tons of drops to level my stuff.
I've just finished using my stocked up bronze units CCing Patra and I feel quite empty now, not sure how I'll manage to level anything else to be honest, the daily spirit quests cost too much and drop too little even at 極 which is the max I can handle I think. I do have quite a few armors though.
I also have no idea whom should I awaken first at this point.

>>17850161
The pick-up is 50/50 great and mediocre, 2nd one with Rion / Nanaly is pretty good.

>>17850181
Elementalists are a pretty busted class and there's a banner with them, Saria (equally great) and Celia (stellar passive, also super cute) as the only plats, might want to try that until you get one at least.

Burst damage banner (Rion/Nanaly/Elizabeth) is also excellent for all your majin needs, while the first banner has a new plat that looks amazing, at least on paper (inherently good class, SAW is so stupidly powerful that I feel sorry for vampire lords because they are sure to start giving paralysis immunity to everything to compensate for how unashamedly broken it is). So yeah, there are some pretty good lineups, just be sure to switch when you get a rate-up girl so that you minimize the risk of dupes.

>>17850196
Either Cenote or Bashira are good picks. Cenote's SAW isn't that stellar (wish it turned her into an extra elemental like Clarice and Loretta instead) but the extra stats/improved token should help, while Bashira is the standard first AW for many players.

>>17850254
>Either Cenote or Bashira are good picks
I was waiting for Cenote's SAW evaluation, which didn't seem to be too good on the wiki either, but to be honest she is so much my personal MVP right now I really wanted to go with her anyways. I heard Bashira AW has problems with her targeting priority and I was unsure whether I had to AW Spica first like some people suggested. Spica's not even in the shop though so I wouldn't know how to get her to begin with.
Thanks for the heads up by the way.

>>17850283
Bashira's ranged priority isn't unmanageable and in fact becomes handy in some situations (you really want to kill goblin archers fast in the Empire subjugation, for example), she's pretty decent after the buff that added 5% attack to her passive. She will also doubly prioritize flying enemies with ranged attacks, so you don't need to worry about her failing to target things like hammer demons and Phenex.

As for leveling, it's a good idea to do the daily maps this week due to the 1.5x drop rate boost, but plat fairies also have a decent drop rate from Phalanx 2, which is the go-to map for using excess stamina (though currently less so due to constant revivals). Lack of fairies is something faced by all players, it's common to fuse two fairies/two armors instead of 3/1 for that reason.

And yeah, going with personal favorites isn't really bad in Aigis, even middling units are more than enough to clear regular content if invested into. One of my first AWs was Racua, who is a rather gimmicky unit, but she's a blast to use once you get used to her mechanics (e.g. there's a jungle challenge that throws you a couple dozen cerberuses with ~400 range each, followed by a demon mage with an AoE that covers nearly the entire map, who got ganked out of nowhere because I set Racua to revive under him with her skill ready).

>>17850283
The trading post rotates, so just wait for her to come back around. But she's recommended as the first AW because her AW passive gives +7% attack to all archers on the team, including herself.

As mentioned, Bashira's a lot better after the attack boost to her AW passive. She used to have comparable attack to Spica (provided both were on the same team with Spica's boost) but I think a recent adjustment put Spica slightly ahead again. Her SAW is pretty nice, though. 10% attack reduction for an extra arrow. Since you're generally not using archers on anything with high defense anyway, that almost always works out in your favor, so there's another reason to consider Bashira for AW.

Bashira having no AW art is the strongest argument for not doing that

https://www.nutaku.net/blog/millennium-war-aigis-closure/

>>17850594
Let me guess "we dindu nuthin and it's all evil Tea team's fault"

>>17850594
>Last year the developers of Aigis did propose shutting down the title
They were just extending the inevitable, should've just shut it down then.

>>17850619
this

>>17850594
>Aigis ad on the right

>>17850614
More like "ya'll didn't do enough. Dev tea operating on financial loss on the game and no one is paying for it so the only logical financial decision is to cut their losses. Don't worry we're trying to get a western tower defense game that we were sorting out in the past few months."

ULMF is finally up and here's where the good stuff starts.
http://94.23.39.43/forum/hentai/hentai-games/online-games/10023-nutaku-milenium-war-aigis-english-version/page2010

>>17849979
>>17850014
When that happens, do you get spent DMM points back or it dies with the game?

>>17851110
They are supposed to refund your DMM point when the games go down.

>>17851110
>>17851125
I'm not so sure about that. I don't think you get refunds for long running games. Maybe for the ones that die off after a few months of service. Even if you do get refunds you'll probably have to go through DMM support in a certain timeframe.

>>17850619
>>17850854
I think westerners are more stingy with their money. That reminds me, Nexon's American branch operate at a loss while all the Asian branches rake hundreds of millions.

First 150 timer, how did I do?

>>17851457
>2 blacks
>2 solid plats
Pretty good

>>17851457
Wait the chibis are in the regular gacha too?

>>17851464
No new sign over it so just a wumpus that rolled early.

>>17851458
Sweet, was also hoping for that new plat on first banner but didn't roll a single plat with 100ish SC.

>>17851464
Nah, I was just too lazy to crop out the last 2 golds and left as in, my bad.

>>17851457
everyone gets a healthy variety of golds but all I get is Ehrets and Momos nonstop

>>17851501
I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe next 150 I'll be in your position.

>>17851514
Wouldn't be so bad if I ever had an incentive to use warrior priests beyond the maxed silver chick.
Or cared about any aspect of monks at all beyond Ling's monstruous thighs

>>17851586
>Ling's monstruous thighs
Nope unless it's Alice's cuteness

>roll 60 SCs
>only 1 plat loli druid who I already have
>sell them and buy plat roll
>only to see a fucking useless plat sword master

When do you sell plats? Is there any point in keeping them around if you have a black of the same unit type?

>>17851457
Very well. Saria is a good contender for the best unit of her rarity, Cenote gives you multi-target magical DPS/golem tanking utility for very low cost, Altia's recent buffs made her a premier UP generator in addition to a passable duelist (just be sure to go commander instead of warrior), and Miyabi is a black unit of a broken class (but she's not very useful without a good team to buff, so focus on your core units first).

>>17851668
Did you get not-Lena too? She's really cute and has some Furfur utility at the very least, don't pass her over without giving her a try.

I'll try to CR her a bit, I'm more of a fan of elder sister type girls but she just clicks with me for some reason.

>>17851692
When I was starting, I used to sell or make others eat them when I didn't understand what was the point of their classes or didn't like the art. Now I save every single different plat I get.

Wtf? Didn't noticed all dailies were available on Aigis

>more free jewels in nutaku kamipro
t-they seem too generous
it's not going to shut down r-right?

>>17850594
> "We are just surprised as you are about this sudden decision! We were not informed about it!"
> "Oh wait, we knew for last 18 months that devs want to shut it down, ehehe"

>>17851125
Only when its crash-after-start thing. Long-running games arent refunded.

>>17852087
They're renewing guaranteed SSR gachas often and it's the top ranked game most of the time.
Kamihime ain't going under with that constant whale bait. Miracle tickets will also fund the game for a while.

>>17851110
They likely only do so for purchases within a few months of the closure announcement.

>>17851424
>Nexon's American branch
Those dummies have to pay the other branches for content since they aren't allowed to make/implement anything themselves at all after breaking one of their games once. They have plenty of whales but the incompetence is astounding.

>>17850905
When I die, I want Nutaku to be the one to lower my casket, so they can let me down, one last time.

>>17850619
Aigis died during the six weeks of no updates. This sent a clear message to everyone that the jp devs had all the power and didnt give a fuck about the foreign playerbase. But Nutaku had allready sabotaged the game with their censorship, forcing the devs to put additional effort into removing and exchanging units and rearranging events. So what was the result? We felt like thrid class players playing a cut version with slower updates and uncertain future. Who would put money into this mess after that experience? I joined dmm side. So did a lot of people. But i still kept logging in to nutakus version but never trusted it enough to spent anything in fear of dev tea screwing me over again.

Huh, there's now "this unit is maxed out, can't combine further" thing in FKG.

Were these two any good? And how were their scenes

A fellow aigis player seems to have issues coming to this board, he asked whether people could help him by sending him account logins so he can film the scenes and put them up in a public folder. There is a folder with all the scenes and text documents already (http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Kuremisago/So_the_Game_is_Shutting_Down,_Now_What%3F), but some people prefer to have their scenes together with the text (even if they can't click to get it at the desired text speed) so he tries to get something for those.
He almost got all units already, but a few ones are still missing:
Altia [Rarity: Black]
Elenia/Erenia [Rarity: Platinum]
Gina [Rarity: Gold]
Katina [Rarity: Platinum]
Hina [Rarity: Platinum]
Krile [Rarity: Gold]
Lupine/Rubinas [Rarity: Platinum] (dragon shaman)
Matsuri [Rarity: Black]
Mel, Momo [Rarity: Gold]

His project is being hosted here:
http://harem-battle.club/others/2953-scenes-collection-project.html

>>17852727
Forgot to post the mail
xionjd1@gmail.com

>>17852087
They keep us rolling with campaigns and monetize us with monthly SSR tickets. Now imagine if DevT would have done something similar.

>>17852575
Ya, they're okay. Manes abilities are strong, but are 10T CDs. They refresh whenever another party member dies to direct damage, so she could be nice for newbies. The Heal/Barrier can be useful by itself if used strategically. Most importantly, she cute.

Vlad's active sucks(100 drain), but her passive is good for newbies without mono-element teams, farming and leveling(+30% attack for all elements / Item drop rate up).
She gets a lot of Support use. Also cute.

Manes scenes are 'stuck in a wall and fucked from behind' and 3P with MC and Vlad. Vlad's scene is her fucking the MC, who's tied to a pole. All pretty vanilla as usual, but I like them.

>>17852746
30 to 50 bucks for a guaranteed SSR is I guess a better deal than just throwing the equivalent money's worth of SC at Aigis and hope she remembers 3% of the units she can call are Blacks.

>>17852756
>She gets a lot of Support use.
That'll happen when she shares a 50/50 split of the element with another older limited eidolon that's only good for meme teams.

>>17852769
Noone used the phantom lilim so that doesn't matter. She gets a lot of use because you don't have to go digging through thunder and wind tabs to find item drop up summons anymore and everyone has her.

>>17852769
That wouldn't matter if she was useless. She gets use because you don't have to go digging through thunder and wind tabs for item drop up summons anymore.

>>17852769
She gets use because you don't have to go digging through the thunder and wind tabs for item drop up summons anymore.

>>17852789
>>17852818
>>17852825
3rd time's the charm?

So how the heck do you get decent weapons in Kamihime? Are there raids you can grind (the Prison of X Disaster ones?) for farmable SR/SSR attack up weapons, or is it all gacha luck/event battle farming?

>>17853086
Common raids all have 2 HP and 1 ATK weapon.
Some of the ATK weapons are pretty good and even easily beat some event SR ATKs and then there's dark guns.
SSR weapons only come from trading regalia on the shop, which drop from ragnarok raids and are again split between HP and ATK, but only get their effects as mainhand of 1 specific soul.

The rest is just luck and farming though, yes, but since they made the first weapon in advents incredibly easy to get, it's not as much of a grind as it used to be, but you still need to wait for techcross to get their head out of their asses and maybe TRY not to do 20 fucking water and dark events every 1 event of the other elements.

>>17853130
I think this makes the persective of things even more hilarious after that retard a couple days ago talked about how he loved his cuckbait clone over the original because he felt like he can actually make progress.

>Nike just pulls a fucking gun and threatens to fucking shoot Lilim in her face
THUG LIFE

>>17853182
Nike is the best girl.

>Loyal
>not used goods
>cute
>big tits

And most importantly
>not a fucking snide bitch

>>17853195
>big tits
That's not a plus, anon.

>>17853165
I think I made a pretty reasonable argument. There's less stuff to reach for, so you can actually catch up and it feels like you're progressing. Had I started GBF back when there was less content it would have been different, and I never said one game was better than the other. It's just that right now (actually, for quite a while), as a matter of fact, it's easier to start Kamihime than GBF.

are individual pp worth grinding to 2.5mil? I am thinking of stopping at 1m for the weapon, is the eidola really worth it?

>>17853459
It's easier to start in Kamihime, and at the same time it's way harder to make any meaningful progression in Kamihime.
All of the SSR weapons are locked behind events, and you are stuck filling your grid with shitty SRs until these events get reruns.
And you are also out of luck if they are raid events.

>>17853480
The Eidolon gives a whopping +90% Fire Attack at MLB.... but only if you have three elements on team.
So yeah, she's fucking garbo
Amazing scene though, full embrace missionary with kissing and leglock, hnnnnnngh

>>17853505
having her maxed out gives you an excuse to have her on your fire grid without losing too many stats to use her call effect
might be too much work, though, especially given how in 99% of content you are never summoning anything

>>17853528
>having her maxed out gives you an excuse to have her on your fire grid without losing too many stats to use her call effect
...what?

>>17853538
She has shitty stats so more often than not if you're putting her on a fire team, you're switching from an eidolon with higher stats.
Her summon effect gives +fire ATK up to the party.

How are you guys dividing your time between Expert and Ultimate Demon Wraths? I burned almost 600 seeds on the Trick or Treat raid, so I need to go conservative mode for the Union event and rely on natural BP regen. I'm trying for more Ultimate Demons this time as opposed to the Wind Union event, but I'm noticing that my daily PP gain is suffering a bit since the I can get 3 Experts' worth of PP for the price of 1 Ultimate fight.

If I can't make the investment, would it be better settle for 2.5m personal, 3m union, and 150 expert souls for 2 copies of lilim and the SSR bow?

>>17853546
Still not following.
If she has shitty stats then you have nothing to gain by putting her on your fire grid at all, assuming you're replacing a fire eidolon.

>>17853486
You just have to wait, like you have to wait for magnafest and Xeno reruns and GW. The thing that throws people off is the SRs deal. I guess they are not as shiny and alluring, but SRs in kamihime are relatively as good as magna SSRs in GBF.
KH SR = GBF magna SSR
KH event SSR = GBF Xeno (but on KH you only need one good party to get them all)
KH soul weapon = GBF bahamut/cosmos/normals
On top of this, a good amount of Hime weapons are actually good enough and usable even at no LB, meanwhile character's weapons in GBF are for the most part getting smashed. Not to mention everything is super easy to upgrade in KH, whereas you have to feed tons of SSRs in GBF.
Is it really "meaningful" progress if you could have done just fine with a mixed SRs/SSRs grid?

>>17853585
Can you call it progress when the game only has the equivalent of Magnas as "end game"? That's also completely disregarding the gacha system of the two and how cuckbait clonePro has the most fundamentally shit gacha system imaginable. It's inferior at every price point including F2P. You're paying double the money for less in the absolute best case scenario.

>>17853607
>the most fundamentally shit gacha system imaginable
Why are you suddenly bringing up FKG?

>>17853585
You don't have to wait for magnafest to grind your daily magna. Also, compare xeno weapons to event kamihime weapons is bland moronic, they don't even function in the same way.
And the main reason why Hime weapon is usable even at 0lb is because of how shit everything else in the game, not because they are better than their GBF counterpart.

>>17853607
>Can you call it progress when the game only has the equivalent of Magnas as "end game"?
I'm pretty sure GBF also didn't have all the endgame stuff it has now back when it started. The devs are actually implementing original stuff (Accessories, GO and now the upcoming tower thing). I'm not 100% satisfied with them, but at least they're trying.
> the most fundamentally shit gacha system
It's shit indeed. They are trying to fix this by giving 3k jewels + tickets every event now, and it's already a noticeable improvement on sanity. It's not like I ever defended this aspect of the game.
>>17853614
>they don't even function in the same way.
They do: they improve/complete your grid, and you need to farm to get them. That's all that matters.
>And the main reason why Hime weapon is usable even at 0lb is because of how shit everything else in the game, not because they are better than their GBF counterpart.
Yeah. We can also imagine a game with even harder content than GBF and call GBF weapons shit because they can't deal with that. What's the point? Progress is something that has to with the game you're playing. I'd say GBF is fairly flawed there, what's the point in designing all those weapons if 99% are unusable? That's on top of defender weapons which are fairly unusable in both games.

>tfw there are anons out there whose waifu is dead as her game was terminated of service
>tfw some of these anons kept on playing until the last day as if it was her deathbed

Let's take a moment for those who played monsume, gochimusu, chihatank, oretower, tenka, kagero and the rest
It's not your fault you can't save your waifu, but you were at least there by her side to the end

>>17853645
If you are going to generalized everything as "good good it makes the grid better, that's all matters" then why bother making that weapon comparison, where everything you listed were wrong?

>>17853560
Union already completed the Expert, Just doing Ultimates now.
Probably going to solo experts to hit the personal goal

>>17853659
Because I stated the other point which completes the comparison in my previous post: you have to wait for the rerun for both Xeno weapons and KH event weapons. Remember this whole discussion is about whether it's easier to progress in KH or in GBF. Obviously, the main point would be how to acquire the weapons, or how many you need (which is the point of comparison for soul weapons), not how the weapons work.

>>17853195
>Nike is loyal to you
>You cheat on her instead with your harem

>>17853725
>yfw every girls become one dimensional vanillia slut now

>>17853725
Serves her right for letting herself be molested by that ugly loli

So out of all the recently released DMM games do you still play any? Are you enjoying them?


After trying them all out I think I'll stay around Otogi because the game feels like I can play it casually on the side and still make progress. I like the fact that the game is fully voiced and girls have multiple arts AND scenes for each evolution.

I liked Re:bless but the grind drains away all the will to continue. Maybe I'll give it another try if they rebalance the events, like anon said earlier.

I also like the art in Idiom, the gameplay is better than most autobattlers. But the game didn't even rank in top 5 during its release and now it's slowly sinking to oblivion. I don't really want to start the game which could die in a year. I hope they can do something about it.

>>17853781
>try otogi for the ntr
>get all the vanilla girls out of 3 10x rolls, and no max rarity ones either.
I dropped it.

>>17853799
This new layer of cucking is ironic.

>>17853781
did she lose her top?
Also, is it hard to get into for an EOP?

>>17853707
Here let me drill you a better comparison.
Kamihime raid event weapons = GBF monthly event weapons.
Kamihime advent event weapons = GBF daily showdown weapons. They tried to hype up the tier 2 weapons as something ground breaking, so I expected it to be the same as Xeno weapons, but they turned out to be literally skill fodder trash.
Kamihime Soul weapon = GBF class weapon.
I don't know why you ignore other perfect example in favor of your xeno/baha/cosmos comparison.

>>17853835
Because your example doesn't work out. Let's see this is (was, at the time I was playing, not sure now) a standard grid in GBF:
2 Xeno weapons, 1 bahamut weapon, 1 GW and the rest magna SSRs.
In Kamihime you have:
2 event assault SSRs, 1 soul weapon, and the rest SR/hime. notMLB Pride weapons can also work in place SR, as do the new tier 2 weapons (sometimes).
Both these grid can carry you through all content in their respective games.
Surely you can see the similarity?
If your comparison was correct, then a GBF grid should look like this:
2 daily showdown weapons, 1 class weapon and the rest magna.
But it doesn't, which is why I didn't draw that pointless comparison. Might have as well have compared GBF SRs to KH SRs. They look the same, but their relative power is massively different because the content in the games is different.

>>17853877
Anon, I made that comparison purely on your previous point.
>the main point would be how to acquire the weapons, or how many you need

>>17853658
Dammit, don't remind me. This wasn't even a DMM game but I had such high hopes for it.

At least we have oso still drawing delicious mushroom girls.

Why is Goddess Kiss the easiest game of em all?

Or are there easier games?

>servers laggy as hell
>can't do union event cause it's constantly connecting

>>17853799
And I got 3 ntr-girls so far. All of them are 4* rarity. I don't mind scenes not featuring MC but I don't like rape. And all of them are kinda like this:
>"I'm going to tell a story about my traumatic past"
>Transition to H-scene interface
>Raped by orcs, bandits, murabito, etc.
I assume that in later scenes protag is going to 'heal' them.
Vanilla H-scenes are pretty bland. So far the only vanilla scene I really liked was a tutorial one with Cinderella.
>>17853822
I cannot find the exact source, but I'm assuming this is genderbent king from The Emperor's New Clothes.
>Also, is it hard to get into for an EOP?
Well the game isn't hard to understand. Battle system is tapping skills in right moments and maintaining the combo. Skills usually don't go beyond 'deals damage' or 'buffs an ally', but there are plenty of wikis out there so I think you can google translate what you need.
Devs pay enough attention to the game to full-voice every event story, so while writing isn't awfully great, the dialogues are pretty funny at times.

>>17853904
Korean games are like that. They're not about getting your waifu, they're usually about grinding and evolving all your waifus, which tend to be easily obtainable.

>>17853926
Isn't that the point anyway?

>>17853951
I mean, more chances of getting the one, than relying on pure luck to get the one.

>>17853951
>>17853954
I didn't play Goddess Kiss, but from my experience korean social games usually have a rather limited character cast, they rarely do significant updates, their events are usually 'campaign ap consumption 1/2' and 'clear the stages to get this new skin for an existing girl'.
If that's not true for GK, then I'm sorry for misleading.

>>17853912
>I assume that in later scenes protag is going to 'heal' them.
Only played the game for a short time so I can't tell what it's like for the others, but matchstick girl indeed got "healed" by MC in her second scene.

>>17853891
>Anon, I made that comparison purely on your previous point.
>how to acquire the weapons
How do I acquire the best f2p endgame weapon in GBF (excluding baha etc.)? I farm Xeno.
How do I acquire the best f2p endgame weapon in KH (excluding soul's)? I farm events.
Daily showdowns can't feature anywhere in the equation, because the weapons are not endgame worthy so you wouldn't be comparing equivalent things to begin with.

>>17853912
>decide to try it out
>arm myself with OCR and TA
>damn that's a hot handholding scene
>combat starts
>ear rape sound volume commences
WHY

>>17853973
I think you're right, limited cast and all I get are the same girls in different costumes.

>>17853560
Why make it extra difficult on yourself? Why not join a strong union?

You would get full buffs easily everyday, higher level ults and experts that give more pp per seed, a richer pool of raids on raid events with people instead that depending on random one-man raids that expire, the ability to ask for clean up if things go south... and all rewards.

If you would spends 600 seeds on an event you should be tryhard enough to be welcome in any.

>>17854157
Probably same reason I do not join.

>>17854192
But if you join one of this thread's union chances are they are full of the same autism you would find here.

Really, give it a shot. Unions welcome tryhards and its a shame to see you guys struggle. It's not like you are marrying for life or something.

>>17853912
Man, the scenes are nice and the girls are cute, but this game bores me to tears
Why only Aigis actually adds the "ge" part to "netoge"?

CR fairies are unexpectedly kind this month. Still, it's kind of strange to have Shizuka, Dahlia and Racua at mincost after rolling a bunch of black duelists in Angeline, Clissa and Sylvia.

http://fkg.blog.jp/archives/73466259.html
http://fkg.blog.jp/archives/73465548.html

As for FKG, recaps on Jabjab loot hit the FKG 2ch blog, so head in if you're one of these folks who actively enjoy getting jealous at people. There's also an interesting history of this convention at http://fkg.blog.jp/archives/73456601.html, looks like the first four had 31, 87, 115 and 135 participating authors.

I don't know how popular these specialist meetings are, but that sounds solid for a browser game, especially since this last one was a bit too close to Comiket for comfort. The next installment will be on 22 April, so let's see if it'll hit 150+ then.

>>17854322
How do you even find one of these unions?

>>17854536
By answering my summons!

WE NEED TO GO HIGHER!

I did ask if someone was interested before the event. Now until I the event ends I cannot get people in. Just ask around then or ask for embryon.

How often does DMM Kamipro do Miracle Tickets?
I'm rather tempted by the current 5000pt guaranteed SSR promo, especially if there's nothing else to expect for November.

>>17854568
I'm nowhere near that level yet but it would be nice to have some people to play with before the game dies.

>>17854632
They've done 1 for new years, anniversary, and the TGS announcement.
Next one's probably gonna be on christmas or new years again, but I'm not saying any guarantees.

What's a good alternative for Nutaku?

>>17854686
DMM

>>17854698
Something English though

>>17854703
Nutaku

>>17854703
>good alternative
>English
pick one

>>17854703
Phone cancer games are a dime a dozen if all you want is a gacha to roll. Just hit up iTunes/Google Play/whatever.

If you want something like Nutaku, I don't think there's another English equivalent. DMM is where you go for the same kind of games in one place.

>>17854708
>>17854715
Damn, there's no escaping the hell, huh?
>offer mobile games
>no Android app
>less games

>>17854703
pester mangagamer until they consider getting into the erogacha business

>hit 10k fame
>decide it's not fucking worth it to wait a whole month for another gold disappointment and roll ASAP
y-yorokobe?

>>17854872
I'm jealous. Nice.

http://iwiki.jp/aigis/?%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%2F%E9%AD%94%E7%95%8C%E3%81%AE%E6%B4%97%E7%A4%BC

Is this map something extremely hard or it's 90/12 events tier?

>>17854932
Easier than your typical 90/12, I'd say. The demons that appear from E are of little consequence, so you'll be fine if you can set up a reliable dog grinder on the left side of the map. This isn't too hard because there are plenty of safe spots to place your healers and archers.

Just have a duelist ready to take on the white scythe demons when they show up, and reserve some tokens/a tank to deploy in the demon mage's face because his AoE thunder hurts (or just let him pass if you're going for the Prince title). It also helps to "stagger" your tanks by deploying them towards the front first and backwards next (e.g. G first and F next with healer on d, H first and G next with healer on e), so that the dogs hit the front tank for a bit before switching to the back tank, relaxing the pressure on your healers.

The 4* version of that map is lovely, though. Everything gets ridiculous range, the dogs can target the upper ranged spot from their spawnpoint, demon mage's thunder covers everything from his starting point to the ranged slot in the middle.

Finished fitting my second squad and still missing rank 20 in friends list by 700 points. This game needs ampy daily.

Any favourite castles?

>five days of rerolling later

YES

Thank god I didn’t get spotlight trolled this time.

Does anyone else do 2x2 fairy / plat can? I want to do normal 3:1 but comparing fairy dailies to gold dailies, they feel worse and give less fairies even with Seria.

>>17855810
I do. Events tend to shit out plat armors on the best farming maps, so I usually run much lower on fairies.

>>17855810
Of course. I would do 1:3 for blacks if it gave 8000 exp.

>>17855810
I've recently started this when I realized I had almost 99 plats compared to only 10-20 fairies. It was actually more efficient since the fairies are harder to come by. Especially plat fairies.

>>17855810
Yea, I do that with plat and black units, sometimes with 2 gold fairies instead.

>>17856006
>>17856055
Though to be clear, yes, had I not rolled Daisy, I still would've rerolled.

I should also be thankful that my gold ticket gave me the cutest of the three idols.

Now I just need the original Daisy...

>>17856006
>>17856055 (You)
Though to be clear, yes, had I not rolled Daisy, I still would've rerolled.

I should also be thankful that my gold ticket gave me the cutest of the three idols.

Now I just need the original Daisy...

Is there a way to reroll Aigis on DMM without remaking the entire account?

>>17855711
You actually rerolled for a rainbow, got one, and abandoned the account just because she wasn't Daisy? Goodness, now that's some dedication.

Enjoy your DG, you deserved her.

>>17855377
Still better than my lineup.

And well, the moment the game gets an ampy daily is the moment your entire friendlist gets bumped to 700k. Game needs some kind of secret ampy daily that only I can access.

>>17855810
I used to do this but I started to run out of platinum armors. I don't think it's worth doing, just spend your stamina on the challenge missions. I do the last 4 stamina mission for the black fairy. I give up to get back two stamina if I don't get the black fairy but I'll complete it if I get some affection items. At least a diamond or jewel plus ruby.

>>17855602
It's Neuschwanstein actually but I have never got her.

>>17856006
Nah, Halloween Daisy was actually my first rainbow on DMM.

I speak of the times I've been spotlight-trolled on Nutaku.

And after so many rerolls, I'm really starting to think the rates on Nutaku are that much better. Too many of those reroll attempts yielded nothing but silvers.

>>17854401
Well they're mostly like that on DMM-R18.
The most gameplay-heavy ones I know are Aigis, Kamihime, Idiom Girl, Iolite and probably Himegari.

There were more games that had you thinking, and not just sitting on auto(like that one where you had to generate dungeons and clear them in a classic turn-based roguelike style), but they either had grindy to impossible content restrictions or the quality of everything else(story, voice acting, h-scenes, girls, animations) was really all over the place.

This isn't the case for DMM.com though. Since they cannot just go away with cute girls and good H-scenes they have to make some kind of addictive gameplay. There are more games there which could interest you, like ShiroPro. But they have no H-scenes and you need a vpn to access most of them.

>>17856177
>Himegari
>gameplay
I've played it year ago and it had none. You just put your same-looking soldiers on map and watch them retardedly run towards goal.

>>17856221
I see. I just assumed it had more strategy to it later.

Who should I raise next? Doesn't feel like any of them would bring some significant advantage to my team. Maybe maid.

geez

>>17856410
Is it me or these story maps are harder than majin maps?

I am actually out of silver fairies to CC awakening material
Life in Aigis sure is hard

>>17856353
Mireille and Ramii.

Well?

>>17856464
>can't even get verbal conjugations right
cute demon maid

Wanna try something new to play. My options now are
>Sengoku Providence
>Three Kingdoms Cross
>Soul Senki
>Sengoku Princess
>Otogi

Need your suggestions

>>17856177
Speaking of himegari I checked it out to see how they handled the h scenes and was disappointed to find out they just reused the girls' first scene from their own game while himegari's at least had new ones in sorakana

>>17856525
>Sengoku Providence
Nice art and overall style, easy events and farming, full voice. Battle system is there but is very limited in terms of tactical options and gets boring really fast.
>Soul Senki
Pure mindless autofest with nice animations. The game feels like it was made by a chinese developer, rather than japanese one.
>Sengoku Princess
This is one of those first generation netoges, where you collect cards, tap endlessly to proceed through stages and then clash your deck's numbers with enemy's. Art is very nice though.
>Otogi
If you won't get discouraged by the boring battle system, then you should be fine. Everything else in this game is pretty solid. Some H-scenes have NTR and rape though.

>>17856545
>The game feels like it was made by a chinese developer, rather than japanese one.
Engine is Goddess Kiss copypaste with different artwork, so most likely koreans.

>>17856525
Try Azure Lane, I've got hooked on it very fast, nice to have some proper gameplay after typical DMM autofests.

>>17856435
roll more, i allways get a lot of silvers that way...

>>17856529
That's the problem with almost every popular IP getting a netoge/mobage. Developers get greedy and treat these games as a way to cashgrab giving fans the reused assets and minimum quality.

You can tell if the developer actually cares about the game by the amount of freshly made content for existing characters. Honestly I can't remember a single popular IP game on DMM which didn't re-use the assets.
Only good examples I can think of are(outside of DMM)FGO, Danmachi: memoria freese and it looks like the new Senran Kagura mobage is going to use new 3d models and CGs for their new game.

>>17856529
>>17856561
I meant to say how they handled the sorakana girls' scenes for the collab but I ate a few of my words somewhere along the line

>>17856561 >>17856529
Eushully in their blog outright said that their gachage is just a way to earn more money for their desktop games. Of course they aren't going to put extra effort into it, they have proper games to make.

>>17856558
I mean actual silver fairies(CC material), not the exp ones

>>17856561
The Toushin Toshi one was new assets that came from an all-ages version of the game, does that count?

>>17856757
>new assets that came from an all-ages version of the game
I don't understand, how are they new then?
iirc Toushin Toshi was a pvp-oriented game. Pvp-oriented netoges are never good anyway.

>>17856779
The base of the game came from the all-ages version of it, but new scenes were crafted for it, since it became a H-game like the original series.

Yeah, it sucked and even Alicesoft slightly regretted not handling it better.

>>17856789
So you mean it was like with Goddess Kiss? I assume the all-age version was online too? Sorry, I'm not very familiar with Toushin Toshi series.

If Rance series ever receives a netoge after X, I hope Alicesoft hires a proper producer and a development team this time.

>>17856779
The main problem with PvP focused games is that it turns into a P2W shit sooner or later.

If the devs aren't retarded, it could work though. SenPro is a good example of a PvP focused game that didn't devolved into a P2W shitfest.

>>17856814
>SenPro is a good example of a PvP focused game that didn't devolved into a P2W shitfest.
Can you elaborate please? I mean about the PvP aspect of SenPro. I've only done the solo quests there.

>>17856810
The Toushin Toshi series is a series of eroge released on the PC, with the second one getting an all-ages remake on the 3DS by Imageepoch.

The developers of that version apparently got hired to do the netoge version on DMM (as the art style is clearly from that one) and created new scenes for the characters from it.

>>17856833
Oh, I see now. Well that's still reusing assets, even if they added something new.

>>17856817
I assume he means how there's like fucking dozens of free base 5* that are on par or even better than a lot of the gacha ones so you're not too far behind the whales, I remember specifically one that was like the slowest 5* in the game, but once apotheosized/deified/whatever she turned into one of the fastest single target nukers.
They might have base 6* though, which is a bit harder to keep up with, but IIRC there's also free 6* but they're locked behind difficult quests that'll probably take you a while until you can take them on

>>17856142
No?

>>17856435
That's the real struggle. It would be nice if they threw some at some of the farm maps during events. Like maybe the 9 stam in the first half of an item collection event could have them. But as is, they leave them in the lower difficulty maps that no one ever replays, so it's hard to keep a good stock of them.

Is the 24/2 gold daily the best one on double drop rate?

>>17853912
Do the mascot girl princess have hscenes?

>>17856435
Just spam last 1 stam challenge quest, it drops a lot there

I'm not even surprised
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=65747984

https://www.nutaku.net/blog/millennium-war-aigis-closure/

>>17853754
The who in the what now

What a sloppy edit on Brahma's scene. Did we have any other graphical edit?

>>17858733
Apparently it might have been censored on the original too. Weird. You can catch glimpses when in motion.

Are the chances of getting a +1 from norm gacha in kamipro good?
I have way too many gems

>>17858782
On Nutaku, probably. On DMM not so much anymore. Getting them now on Nutaku can be a good idea, but you'll also need gems for accessories later on.

>>17858626
Really anon?
>>17850594

>>17857402
Yeah. I personally prefer it normally too, since it often yields more gold armors than god tier and it doesn't consume as much charisma as extreme tier.

If I were to start over on DMM Aigis, would the general recommended course of action be to reroll into Lapis and then pick Moltena with black pick ticket?
After that I guess it's save 150 SC to roll at once.

>>17859266
You don't run god for gold. The ratio of gold to charisma/stamina is awful. You run expert if you have the charisma, hard if you don't, and normal if you want during boosted weeks (I still run hard).

>>17859565
I don't think Moltena's on the ticket, but even if she was no, no one would ever recommend that. Everyone would tell you to pick B.Iris, maybe Rinne. Or one other unit I forget. There were three recommended picks when the ticket came out.

Maple, Veronica, Lily and Oxydendrum receive this week's bloomed art.

Lily's blooming is excellent news, now I just need to finish the ampies on Mountain Lily and wait for 5* Casablanca to create the ultimate lily team.

>>17859951
Veronica and Lily are disappointing. These certainly cannot be called improvement over original and evolution art.