/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Can someone help me?
>>17766143
I was recommended to use clipboard inserter but that is a firefox addon. Is there any way to get my captured text directly put into chrome for me to use Yomichan for?

>>17766606
ちょっとあたしには

えいごがむずかしすぎるかも

FireFoxFocusはつかってる

FireFox56はわっかんないや

>>17766622

>>17766626
ano hito wa chrome wo tsukau noda

firefox addon wo tsukaenai kedo tokuni hitsuyouna addon "clipboard inserter" ga firefox dake ni aru

imi wa "clipboard inserter" no kawari ga hoshii

https://youtu.be/0eRLcZ_ZYpo

>>17766690
わかったー

ないものねだりだね

ryan boundless here and i was just wondering why dont japanese men my age like me

>find youtube let's player to watch
>reads 今度 as 今回

>>17766862
They have souls

>>17766690
死んでください。

>>17767965
もう一回、気合で

>>17767484
だれなんだい

>>17767981
もしよかったら死んでくれませんか お願いします

>>17768054
ちゃうちゃうちゃうねん！こう言うやで、こう言う
「もうローマ字で書いってんじゃねえぇぞこらッ！マジで死ねよ、このクズ人ゴミが！！！」
と書いたら相手が自分の極端な怒りをホンマに感じるやで

新人の読者は知らせてください

1. A meticulous and slow approach; comprehension over exposure
or
2. Less attentive but faster; exposure over comprehension

Pic unrelated

>>17768093
Which method is better? Trying to pick up from where I left off. I think I was doing the first one.

>>17768084

>>17768120
意味わからん

Anyone here been studying for more than 88 consecutive weeks? If so, how are you doing? I wonder if the FSI estimates are accurate.

>>17768215
What do you mean consecutive weeks? Like just do some studying each week and it counts? If so I'm at like 230 weeks

>せっかくお膳立てを揃えたんだ
>存分に強くなれよ
Is 揃えた transitive or intransitive? I'm trying to figure out if the nuance is "I set everything up" or "everything has been set up".

>>17768256
Don't you see the を ?

>>17768269
So that makes it transitive, right? So it is the direct "I set everything up".

>>17768305
Yes

>>17768308
Cool, thank you for clearing that up.

>>17768117
That's my instinct but the heavy kana usage of よつばと makes it difficult to distinguish particles from words and therefore difficult to look things up. It's funny to me that the lack of kanji would actually make something harder to read but here I am.

>>17768215
The FSI is training people who don't especiially care about japan to be diplomats. That's very different from anons learning japanese to read eroge.
The FSI stuff is also full time studying (i.e. 8 hours per day + individual reviews) because it's work, not a hobby.

>>17768329

>It's funny to me that the lack of kanji would actually make something harder to read but here I am

Well, literally everybody knows that's the case except for beginners who are scared of kanji.

>>17768392
Can confirm. Am beginner and Kanji terrifies me

一番好きな四字熟語は平穏無事

>>17768392
Given that, can you recommend something that isn't afraid of kanji but is still grammatically simple?

>>17768489
惡の華
とらぶる

>>17768437
俺は「七生報國」が好き
三島由紀夫の鉢巻に書いてあったんだ。

>>17768489
Zettai Reiiki is a good one. It doesn't get much simpler than that, and the scans are good enough quality that looking up vocab via the furigana is pretty easy.

体を動くのは好きだ

>>17768437
>>17768495
こちらのはすきなの　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE_eppxzl-E

>>17768496
seconded

>>17768494
>>17768496
>>17768522
感謝

>>17768496
Reminder that, with manga that have furigana, you should only look up words that you feel like you ~need~ to understand to understand what's going on, or ones that you keep seeing but haven't figured out yet. The furigana readings do like 70% of the work needed to learn the words.

>>17768392
kanji really does anchor you to the flow and context of a sentence, that said I still suck at it.

>>17768392
it really doesnt matter tho on difficulty

>>17768489
マンガ家さんとアシスタントさんと

can anyone help me translate one sentence? i cant really type it out, but in the english blade runner 2022 anime short a business guy says something in a non english language (sounds chinese), but in the japanese audio he says it in japanese like the rest of what he says
at the 4:10 mark
i dont know any japanese but it sounds like "ano toki nigasunja naka tana"
which i imagine is gibberish
but hopefully someone who knows can listen

>>17769027
i mean im not gonna lie i was gonna bullshit you even if you provided a link prolly but you know in life 80% of success is showing up and this is an example where the 20% got you

>>17769097
i cant find an online stream of it anywhere, and i doubt anyone is going to be bothered to download the jp language rip of it just to help me

i guess, if you had to translate "ano toki, Nigasu nja nakata na, Deckard" if it came right after a sentence that meant "Damn replicants, isn't that why we branded them?"

right now I'm guessing it means something along the lines of "you couldn't just let it go back then, Deckard?"

>>17769027
>>17769204
They didn't run away before

I'm trying to do the real-time import for rikaisama but I have no idea what the format should be to have the cards be imported because this sure isn't working

>>17769219
so my best bet is "Damn replicants, isn't that why we branded them? They didn't run away before Deckard."? as in "the issue with deckard" and not a rhetorical question posed to deckard

>>17768437
私は、無為無能だよ

>>17769204
Shouldn't have let them get away back then

わたしは 同性愛者だよ

JLPT niggas where you at?

did Tae Kim died

looks like the children woke up
welp there goes the thread

>>17769423
https://twitter.com/kimchi314/status/919713668228530177

>>17769435
it was suckubee, 間違いない

>>17769454
If anyone responsible for another resource would be mad at Tae Kim it would be Imabi. https://twitter.com/kimchi314/status/917469030876774400

>>17769435
The bitlasers strike again.

>>17769458
>drama over fucking grammar guides
Just watch anime and you learn grammar

>Just watch anime and you learn grammar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkO8lwHrLZE

I just realized something, is the amount of people learning Japanese small? I noticed there wasnt many people who read in Japanese.

>>17769476
I've never had to read a grammar guide thanks to anime

>>17769521
fake and gay

>>17769516
There are millions of people "learning" Japanese but most are permabeginners who will trek through Genki for a few years and then give up. About 50K people pass N1 every year, the vast majority of them Chinese or Korean.

>>17769559
I guess all those Japanese kids who haven't even been to a school yet but are speaking fluent Japanese are also fake and gay

>>17769561
Looks like 50K was a little low.
http://www.jlpt.jp/statistics/pdf/2016_2_3.pdf
Anyway, you can see that 818 people passed N1 in the USA in that round, compared to 38,593 in China and 11,062 in Korea.

>>17769588
your 'merely pretending' on learning everything from anime is getting old friend
anime wasn't around forever

i think if u watched anime before evangelion then u might have learned japanese from anime but if the shows u remember fondly came after eva then i agree that youre fake and gay

>>17769628
I'm not pretending anything, I learnt from anime

>anime wasn't around forever
What does this have to do with anything?

>>17769604
and of these 50k how many of them know japanese

>>17769676
>What does this have to do with anything?
>I guess all those Japanese kids who haven't even been to a school yet but are speaking fluent Japanese
I guess my point was lost on you:
Pre-anime, how did children learn?
You also never say anything other than watch anime. Raw, or english subs? kanji subs? Nobody is going to take you seriously if you don't give reasons why they should.
But I suspect you'll just continue trolling anyway and this is all pointless.

Does anyone know what the sfx ぽわぽわ～ indicates? Panting?

I see a lot of stuff like fan art and doujins in korean now.
Have you guys learnt Korean where's a good place to start?

>>17769717
>Pre-anime, how did children learn?
By listening to Japanese

I don't feel like writing how I learnt Japanese through anime every time I tell people to watch anime. I basically spent 5 years watching English subbed anime and learnt enough Japanese to start watching raws of SoL anime. This was without even wanting to learn Japanese, literally just noticed one day I wasn't even reading the subs all the time

>>17769749
Korean is too hard for me

does this mean something like, "do you think I want to always be waging war?"

>>17769786
I'm not fighting because I want to

>>17769790
ahhh, thanks

Zettai Reiiki is fun so far. Thanks for the rec.

What is the function of this trailing く? Was he maybe about to list another verb?

>>17769825
Probably 触れなくなった

>>17769786
This is one game I'd rather play in English (PSP remake). I like the flowery prose they went with.

>>17769755
but you can actually read hanguls they are readable writing

>>17766629
This is too cute

>>17769835
So it would be なる attached to mean something like "suddenly became unable to touch". I thought you had to use ように to modify a verb with なる, but you can instead drop the い of a negative and use くなる?

>>17769751
Well thats better, something to actually go on. You could just slightly modify what you say, 'watch raw anime' and be entirely on point.
The first exposure to anime for the vast majority of westerners will be dubs, then possibly subs. I watched subbed anime for years, and while I did pick up quite a few words, not a single grammar point clicked.
If i was forced to watch raw, then things would be different and I'd have no choice but to pay attention, unless I wanted to understand nothing.

Looking back on what there is to gain from subs is a drop in the ocean compared to what you need to grasp; the motivation isn't there.

>>17769854
I will probably, that's good to know. some of it is pretty flowery in japanese too, especially ヴァイス who I'm guessing is supposed to be speaking in a kind of old english

>>17769899
The ない ending of negative verbs functions like an i-adjective (or maybe is an i-adjective, I dunno). You can knock the い off i-adjectives and attach く to turn them into adverbs.

強い (strong) -> 強く (strongly)
etc.

Same applies to negative verbs, but trying to translate the result literally into English just results in nonsense.


The same thing is accomplished with na-ajectives by adding に, by the way.

急 (sudden) -> 急に (suddenly)
etc.

>>17769908
>You could just slightly modify what you say, 'watch raw anime' and be entirely on point.
I learnt from English subbed anime, not raw. I got to the point where I could watch raw but I still watch most anime with English subs for various reasons

Watching raw will force you to pay attention but it doesn't matter if you have English subs as long as you still pay attention to the Japanese

As for the grammar, I just know what sounds right in Japanese the same way I know what sounds right in my native language. It's probably not at the same level but it's good enough that I haven't needed grammar guides

>>17769960
This is excellent to know. Thank you anon-kun.

Don't ever let anyone tell you you're unhelpful, DJT.

>>17770008
無礼者だね

>>17769969
>it doesn't matter if you have English subs as long as you still pay attention to the Japanese
99.9% of people can't do that for more than a short while before their attention wanders, they forget they're supposed to be focusing on the audio and just end up reading the subtitles while the Japanese goes in one ear and out the other.

You must have an incredible attention span to be able to keep your concentration on a particular thing for 20 minutes straight like that.

>>17770047
I thought the same.. people have to make a decision to learn. If they don't, its just entertainment media consumed in the easiest manner possible. Not reading subs and trying to rely on known vocab/grammar is work they will not do.

>>17770047
Even if you are reading the subs and not really paying attention to the Japanese you are still getting used to hearing Japanese, brains are weird like that.

>You must have an incredible attention span to be able to keep your concentration on a particular thing for 20 minutes straight like that.
That's what the English subs are there for. When you miss something a quick glance at the subs should get you back on track. Also it's not like you need some serious level of concentration to watch anime, it's more important to have fun watching it anyways

>>17770069
>people have to make a decision to learn
I didn't try to learn Japanese, it just happened as a side effect of watching anime. Repeat something enough times and you end up learning it regardless of your will

>>17770080
>Even if you are reading the subs and not really paying attention to the Japanese you are still getting used to hearing Japanese, brains are weird like that.
Speaking as someone who watched a lot of anime before starting to learn Japanese, I know it takes more than just idling listening to people speaking it in the background to actually learn anything more than the odd word.

Yes, my brain had gotten "used to hearing Japanese", as evidenced by how some of the grammar sounded familiar to me when I read through Genki, but even though it sounded familiar, until I read the explanations in Genki I had no idea what it actually meant.

>When you miss something a quick glance at the subs should get you back on track.
If I have them enabled, whatever my intentions are when I start watching the episode, before I know it I'm just reading the subtitles and paying no attention at all to what the characters are actually saying.

If you're actually engrossed in the episode, your brain just defaults to whatever the easiest way of watching it is. I remember when I tried watching Nichijou, I would innocently just turn the subtitles on to figure out a particular bit, and before I knew it 5 minutes would have passed before I suddenly realized "oh fuck, I forgot to turn the subs off and have just been reading them instead of listening all this time".

>Also it's not like you need some serious level of concentration to watch anime
I'm not saying you need concentration to watch anime. I'm saying you need concentration to resist the easy lure of subtitles and actively force yourself to rely primarily on your listening comprehension for 20 minutes straight.

>>17770167
If you had kept watching anime you would have learnt the grammar in a similiar way natives do, atleast that's how it was for me.

As for subs, I personally don't have problems with them so I usually have them on if they are on by default. It's also fun to look for mistakes in translations or see how someone decided to translate something I thought would be difficult to translate. These days I also watch a lot of anime while doing other things like posting or playing a shitty mobage. Right now I'm re-watching Toaru Railgun while writing this

>>17770217
Just how many anime are we talking about here?

I'd seen about 200 full-length TV shows (about a quarter of which being 2 cour), not including OVAs, movies, rewatches, etc. (I estimate at least 1500 hours worth in total) and I only got as far as I said earlier - learning a few words and having some grammar patterns sound familiar but not knowing what they actually meant.

>>17770230
>Just how many anime are we talking about here?
Looking at what stats my anidb account has, I was around 12k episodes watched around 5 years into watching anime. 20 minutes per episode would be around 4000 hours. Right now I'm at over 31k episodes watched, not counting re-watching

I don't know what's wrong but this started happening all of a sudden anytime I tried to use Rikaisama to import cards. Anki itself seems fine and I even removed and reinstalled Rikaisama but nothing's working. Anyone got any advice?

>>17770316
Upgrade to Windows 7 and see if it fixes your problems

>>17766600
What should the review setting be if I'm doing 50 new cards a day?

>>17770344
Doesn't matter because you'll burn out and quit in a week or two at that pace.

Enjoy having 500+ reviews every day with a 60% retention rate.

>>17770316
Did you change the names of the fields in your deck or anything like that?

Try reinstalling the actual Anki add-on itself instead of Rikaisama. Alternatively, you could just switch to Yomichan which you're going to need to do anyway when Firefox updates to version 57 in a couple of weeks.

If you, like me, think the default formatting of Yomichan's cards is ugly, I had a stab at making them look a bit nicer the other day: >>17739647 >>17739707

I still don't think they look nice even like that, but I think they look better than the default at least.

>>17770379
>I still don't think they look nice even like that, but I think they look better than the default at least.
Right, they don't. I just use glossary brief and they just dump the meaning in straight like rikai, no styling bullshit at all.
Its the text only template:
https://foosoft.net/projects/yomichan/dl/fields.txt

おはようおにいちゃん

あめ

いちにちじゅうあめ

あめ

>>17770485
Oh, there are alternative styling templates on Yomichan's website? Where did you find this link?

This does look better but using glossary-brief means you miss the important information about what kind of word the word being defined is, which would be included on a Rikaisama-made card. Using the normal glossary option which gives you that info just looks awful with this template.

>>17770008
ちょっとまえまで

イエローモルモットだったけど

さいきんはモンキーになったね

ヒューマンにイエローははいってないよね

>>17770508
ここは風。強い風。昼頃から。

>>17770509
>you miss the important information about what kind of word the word being defined is
If its a noun, verb, adverb, adjective or whatever isn't as important to me as the meaning and reading.

>>17770522
かぜのかみさまと

あめのかみさまなら

かぜがうけ？あめがうけ？

>>17770522
>>17770527
あめの神のしおふきフィニッシュまでみえた

>>17770509
Thats why you are reading

>>17770523
It's still important information though and there should be some way of including it on the cards without it looking like a total mess.

There are problems with how it makes cards from EPWING dictionaries as well. Unlike with Rikaisama where it just gives you the definition, Yomichan dumps absolutely everything from the entry onto the card. Try using it with the Kenkyusha dictionary, for example, and you wind up with a million example sentences on every card. It sucks since the Kenkyusha definitions are almost always better than the EDICT ones. Another problem is with the Daijirin dictionary; Yomichan doesn't let your separate between the J-J and J-E definitions present in the dictionary so when you make a card from it you get both.

さむい

あめでじめじめしているのに

さむい

だんぼうとれいぼうをどうじにいれたい

>>17769604
That isn't about passing though, right? Only indicates those that applied, and then those that actually sat the test?

>>17770685
じめじめは最悪だな。

寒気は別に嫌いなんてないけど。暑さよりいいと思う。

あなたが何を思ってるかなど全く気にしちゃいない

>>17770778
にんげんはかんがえるアシである

>>17766600
How do I say "Volvo" in Hiragana?

>>17770797
ゲイ・ボルグ

>>17770801
hold on

Are there any actually decent parallel texts out there?

The only two in the CoR both suck for different reasons. One of them ("Read Real Japanese") isn't really parallel text; Instead of giving a full English translation of the Japanese text, it has the Japanese text on one page, then breaks the Japanese down into arbitrary chunks which it translates on the other page, so you never get a translation of a full sentence. The other one ("Breaking into Japanese Literature") was translated by some pretentious wanker who adds words into the translation which were never actually used in the original text in order to "encourage you to think about word choices and style" and "echo the lushness of nineteenth-century authors" (meanwhile he laughably claims that his translations are literal).

>>17770801
誰も気づかないように...

>>17770827
and you know japanese better than said wanker because?

>>17770869
Not saying I do. Doesn't change the fact that he puts in words into his translation which were never there.

He even admits himself in the parts I quoted that his translation deliberately alters what's actually said.

>>17770879
sorry m8 tis art thou that art a most pretentious wanker here innit

>>17770894
Funny, that's basically what his translation reads like.

How would I go about getting a mechanical keyboard in a Japanese 106 key layout?

I can't type ろ and some other things come out weird and wrong. I can't just convert my 102 English keyboard to it.

The really hard part is I'm extremely particular to green or blue switches.

太陽が真っ赤になっている。怖い。

@17771025

Nice try

what do we think about gimmeabreakman (victor)?

>>17771034
Go away, Victor. Nobody cares about your shit YouTube channel or whatever it is you're shilling.

>>17771046
I'm not victor. I used to watch his videos a lot years ago but their quality steeply went downhill when they got a baby

>>17771056
>I'm not victor.
Of course not.

>>17473299

>>17771061
that's me alright but it's not victor. you're paranoid. 48 year old peruvians don't browse 4chan

>>17771069
So you're from his marketing team then?

>>17771071
i bet his marketing team is just a publicity stunt to seem more legit. you can't afford shilling on basket weaving forums if you don't even have 100k subs

Haven't visited DJT for few months.

What's new, my pals? Seems like some shilling is happening.

>>17771076
Yes, it's all just a publicity stunt. You just coincidentally made the exact same post twice, despite being told to fuck off with your e-celeb shit the first time.

>>17771087
>don't get any real discussion about my favorite jvlog channel
>not allowed to ask again even over 2 months later

>>17771089
>my favorite jvlog channel
I thought you just said it went "steeply" downhill? People who think something has gone downhill tend not to refer to it as their "favorite" and repeatedly spam it in online communities.

>maybe if I use le epic maymay images they will believe that I'm one of them

>>17771097
>repeatedly

i guess if less than once every two months is repeatedly

i don't watch any other jvloggers ergo gimmeabreakman is my favorite channel. All other channels are even worse. I suppose ryanboundless has unintentional humor value but all other channels like
>thatredditmanyuta
are pure trash

>6 weeks into studies
>getting a pretty good understanding of nhk easy news
>try different Japanese media
Holy fuck at the difference in kanji compounds. It feels like a different language.

>>17771105
>i guess if less than once every two months is repeatedly
If you did it every day, it would be too obvious. I guess you didn't expect anyone to pay enough attention to check the archive though so felt safe using the exact same post from before.

>i don't watch any other jvloggers ergo gimmeabreakman is my favorite channel.
That's not how the word "favorite" works. Just give up.

>>17771119
a. It's not the exact same post, it has (victor) in it, stop being an idiot

b. what did we think of X is the is the standard meme question in 4chan like "what did we think about blade runner 2049", it literally could have been anyone who watches gimmeabreakman.

c. that's literally how favorite works. favorite literally means "least disliked thing".


you're probably the exact same salty paranoid
/int/ sakubi newfag cuck who yelled at me two months ago, literally no one else cares.

I wonder what Tae Kim thought when changing his website. Its actual garbage now

When do I use hiragana, katakana, or kanji

>>17771199
Katakana, when you want to sound emphatic
Kanji, when you want to sound complicated
Hiragana everywhere else

>>17771169
"I gotta get this back up as soon as I can"
"I bet it was that imabi fucker"
"Two nukes weren't enough"

>>17770362
I only plan to do such a high rate for a week or 2 before drooping back down to normal

>>17771267
50 words a day? That's crazy, you will only remember a small fraction of them. You might as well only do 5-10 and remember all of it.

>>17771289
Not him but 50 new cards a day for max 1-2 weeks is sustainable. I've been doing it for five weeks now and and want to kill myself everyday.

>>17771318
Why? Surely you don't retain even half of those?

>>17771318
Post true retention bby ;)

>>17771214
>Kanji, when you want to sound complicated

Kanji are simplifications, anon. Only quasi-illiterate children would use hiragana everywhere. Because they don't know better.

>>17771318
I constantly felt overwhelmed and gave up entirely a week in. Took me five weeks to pick it up again at a slower pace. Waste of time.

>>17771441
I was obviously joking. Though writing 為る or 勿論 would make you look trying.

おきちゃった

おにいちゃん

いっしょにねよ

>>17771458
>>勿論
But this is written all the time in my VNs

>>17771106
what do you expect going from shit for gaijins to shit for japanese

>>17771140
pipe down nignig

>>17766600
netlify update when

has anyone else had a problem with adding kanji cards thru the yomichan plugin for anki? these are my settings, when I add a kanji it adds it to the list on the side but doesn't actually get in the deck

>>17772070
>yomichan plugin for anki

>>17772074
>This project has been largely superseded by the Yomichan browser plugin, which provides many more features while still maintaining tight integration with Anki.
>Yomichan for Anki is not compatible with the new Anki alpha and will not receive further updates.

wow just now saw this
well what's the easiest way to go from jwpce to browser? pastebin?

>>17772251
ignore this im an idiot, I can just open the txt file in firefox

>>17771827
I was planning to update every two months, so probably next month.

>複数の政党が統合して上澄みを癌とし、専守防衛だけを目的とする。
What does "上澄みを癌とし'" mean? Especially the 癌 is confusing.

>>17771169
>I wonder what Tae Kim thought when changing his website.
He thought "I need to strip down this insecure CMS that someone is using to feed my readers bitcoin mining javascript".

>>17771025
Are you using kana input instead of romaji? Even Japanese people use romaji.

what would be the most efficient way to study with kana-only games?

>>17772605
If you're still green, don't. It will be impossible for you to tell where words end, which meanings are actually being used and which characters are particles. Japanese kids got away with it because they've been listening to the language their whole lives and intuitively know what is going on. It also may stunt your studying because you aren't being exposed to kanji.

もう寝たほうがええやな
おやすみさん

>>17772640
ありがとう

this is what i realized once i tried doing it. i am indeed green. will come back to all these old games once i can sound it out.

I downloaded the JDIC audio files, and ideally, I want to set up anki to where any new card automatically plays the audio file to that word.
Normally, just mining from Rikaisama would be fine, but I like to read from my tablet and use EPWING2Anki to create new cards.

So, is there anyway to format my cards to automatically search my collection.media file for a sound file that matches that word?

ヰヱ

What's the function of か in this sentence? The context is that the one speaking tried to get the girl to laugh and failed and now she's showing him how to it properly.

>>17772776
ヰヱらフランス

>>17772840
Makes the previous clause a quesiton
>どうやったら笑えるか
is said clause

苹果

>>17772935
I think I get it now. Thank you.

How come people can start slowly reading VNs after a few months and yet LNs require N2 level mastery?

>>17773180
>LNs require N2 level mastery
Who said that?

I usually just keep reading but this was interesting so I thought I would show djt:
>「鳳繚蘭学園の生徒は、キャンプや部活の合宿しに、よく訪れてる」
Jisho(org) and ichi.moe say しに is the prefix 死に but that doesn't make sense to me so I was thinking maybe it's a する thing.
It's cool to ignore this, I'm not super pressed.

>>17773294
合宿しに訪れる
you can find this in grammar resources as stemに行く or stemに来る but it's possible to use different verbs too

>>17773294
>I was thinking maybe it's a する thing.
You are correct. ます stem of する + に

イツモシヅカニワラッテヰル

>>17773358
meant reply to
>>17772776

>>17768437
伸縮自在

>>17771106
Who would have thought easy news is easy in comparison to normal media?

>>17771106
Wait until you read a business letter. They use totally different terms for things you already know.

俺は射精できなっくなるまでオナにします

>>17773190
I googled something like 'reading LNs after core 6k' and all the answers were basically that it would be bloody impossible, but most of those were reddit

>>17773180
>>17773631
If you care about JLPT, you want it on a resume for a job. As in リア充 shit.
You can either read something comfortably, or you can't and have to mine/lookup constantly.

Just for fun, unique kanji counts of books in Aozora Bunko:

https://core6000.neocities.org/aozora/

I thought about running the VN Stats tools on it but that doesn't seem to work on a 32-bit OS.

>>17773294
I wanted to try this VN but it just doesn't start whenever I try to run the executable. Would it have anything to do with where I downloaded it from?

>>17768269
昨日は何か変わったことを試したがぼくの汗とてもおいしいでした

>>17773697
Some of the stats don't depend on the output of the frequency list generator. You should be able to edit the scripts to make it just output those stats, which should work on any OS.

>>17773697
>>17773726
Also the table sorting stuff the VN Stats page uses is pure javascript. You can copy paste it if you want.

>>17773730
Nevermind, just checked and it already works. Didn't work the first couple times I clicked the headers!

>>17773697
>https://core6000.neocities.org/aozora/
Can you make some for other stuff, like dengeki?

How's duolingo for beginners?

>>17773858
bad

>>17773858
It's insane. Really question if you're up to it or not before starting.

>>17773858
i heard lingodeer is better, i used to learn hangul

>>17773858
It might be okay for teaching you kana, but after you've learned katakana and hiragana it's better to drop it for pretty much any other guide.

>>17773870
>20 minutes a day
おまえ正気か
やめときな

>>17773693
So normies have lied & over thought shit as always

>>17773858
About as useful for learning a language as dipping your toe in the pool is for learning how to swim.

そうなんだ

>>17774024
America: Do not step on cracks on the ground otherwise your mother will break her back

>>17774028
Had that one in aus as well. Also breaking mirrors, seven years bad luck.
And something about walking under ladders, can't remember the result. Misfortune I guess

I've gotten a boner twice after trying to watch namasensei.
Was I meant to be an abused housewife or something?

>>17771289
I've been averaging 51.7 cards a day for 193 days. It really isn't remotely as bad as people go on about because the more vocab you know, the easier it gets.

>you will only remember a small fraction of them
No shit, you are going to forget words over and over again. It's part of learning. Adding a tiny amount of cards a day for higher short term retention is not helpful for something like vocab, where even the 20 thousand most common words will leave you reaching for a dictionary every other sentence.
You miss both the point of Anki and vocabulary.

>>17774061
The issue being that not everyone has 4 hours per day to do 400 reviews.

>>17772714
[sound:かな - 仮名.mp3]
The above format will pick up the audio file for the word if it has been dumped into the collection media folder and has a file for it. However there are many words which use kanji or kana for parts of words which may differ from your vocab, which will show up as missing. As a hypothetical example, you may have
>[sound:ひっかかる - 引っかかる.mp3]
while the file is named
>[sound:ひっかかる - 引っ掛かる.mp3]

It is accurate for the most part, so using the [sound:kana - kanji.mp3] template will worth for most cards, if you dump the entire collection in your folder, there will be missing files which are legitimately missing and missing files with a slightly different kanji spelling, thus showing up as missing. On the rare occasion an audio file will have the incorrect word recorded/labelled, which can only really be checked manually. This is rather uncommon, though.

>>17774090
Not that guy and unrelated question but if I were to do this and move the mp3 file to a different location from where I initially had it after adding it to Anki, would the sound still play?

>>17774068
Oh fuck off with this silly strawman. You probably waste more time a day on 4chan than anyone spends on Anki.
My average for vocab is 46.2 minute a day, which is only around 10 cards a minute. This is average for vocabulary recognition.

>>17774092
The file must be in the collection.media folder for the profile for Anki to be able to fetch it, unless you use some program or script to manually fetch it from somewhere else. I think the guy behind Rikaisama actually did this for the JDIC media collection, but you'd have to look for on the kanji.koohii forums.

>>17774092
>>17774103
Found the post. I haven't tried the program so I don't know if it works.
https://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?pid=122413#pid122413

>>17774112
This is great, thanks!

>>17774103
>complain about nonexistent strawman
>immediately produce strawman
At risk of this thread exploding with a 50-post long argument about semantics, I'm just going to leave you a (you) and get outta here.

>>17774103
I seriously hope you're spending only a fraction of your time on Anki, anon. I find that card amount excessive personally (my daily mined doesn't reach near there), but as long as you're reading times that amount spent on Anki you should be fine. You're not just an ankidrone, right?

>>17774126
>I seriously hope you're spending only a fraction of your time on Anki, anon.
>My average for vocab is 46.2 minute a day
The answer to your "hope" is literally in the post you were responding to.

>>17772433
あたしにはわかんない

>>17774024
うえはせいかくには

graveyardではないとおもうよ

>>17774122
>immediately produce strawman
No, I didn't. Fuck off idiot.

>>17774126
>I seriously hope you're spending only a fraction of your time on Anki, anon.
Did you even read the fucking post?
In the past 193 days I've spent 165 hours in Anki. In that time I've read 112 volumes of manga, read 9 light novel volumes and a read 1 short visual novel. How many hours have you spent on 4chan in the past 193 days, more than 165 hours?

You're as bad as the idiot I responded to above.

>>17774191
Sorry, but statements like "you probably do (x really fucking stupid thing)" are generally considered strawmen. I seriously regret even leaving you a response to begin with, because now I'm leaving this one, but please do better in the future.

>>17774231
You have no idea what a strawman is.

どうしてアメリカで

チャイナドレス

はやらないの？

おはようさん
いつも早朝にけだるいなんやけど早く起きろうとするやん

>>17774276
毛布ぐらいのサイズを売らないだろう

>>17774425
ごめんね

ほそくないと

きられなかったね

Is there any way to get the cards put into Anki by Rikaisama to play audio?

>>17774090
Cool, thanks anon.

>>17774425
>>17774446
むねにつめものしても

だいたいきられない

>>17774191
I'm just curious how do you find new words at that point, you must be done the core 6k so are you just using some sort of mining deck? different anon btw

You people do more than 1 word a day? Seems like a fucking waste of time.

>>17774551
Why would you waste time learning words at all? Subtitles more than do the trick.

それもまたひとつ

またひとつと

つむぐ

ゆめみて

ゆめをつむぐ

おなかへった

How would you translate なんちゃって?
>ya know~<3
or something?
It's kinda girly

the dreaded spike of starting a new VN.. しにたい

>>17774661
「Just kidding」のほうがええかな？

>>17774666
>I'm copying Saihara-kun. Just kidding...
It doesn't work as well.
I'm looking for another word or phrase.

>>17774669
do it aussie style
'yeah nah'

>>17774669
次回は背景をくれるよ
ほな僕が翻訳したら、その場合で「Or something...」か「Well, not really, but...」とかに翻訳するで

>>17774537
いつか,　うまく妹さんの３サイズを聞き出します
覚悟しなさい

>>17774689
７ごうでよろしくおねがいします

>>17774661
"im gay"

How important are the exact locations of the dakuten? I noticed that they aren't always just to the top right of the character, like in ご, where it's actually below the top part.

>>17774858
It just has to be in the top right somewhere, and ideally, in a place that is somewhat conventional.

>>17774861
tyvm

I'm still studying with RTK and I wanted to ask a question: while reviewing when I see a key word and cannot write it correctly on paper, if I even forgot one drop I push 'again' button. Wouldn't it be better to choose 'Good' or something?

When does not knowing the particular kanji starts and when is it just 'being close' to guessing the right one?

>>17774858
if you dont put them in the exact right spot with the exact perfect strokes the nun will smack your hand with the ruler

Sounds good to me.

キカイだって

プログラムされなきゃうごけないんだから

あのんも

Ａｎｎｋｉしないと

しゃべれないのかもしれないんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

それはannkiのおかげではないかと思うなんちゃって

>>17774997
日本語を使う時はネットしかないよ
英語でも友達いないから。ちょっと引っ込み思案な人です
さらに発音は下手くそすぎる

>>17775094
あたしもネットでしかえいごつかわないよ

おともだちになろうよ

>>17775094
せやな…
こっちの場合は同じでネットしか日本語を話す機会がなくて悔しいやん
発音はあんなに悪くへんと思うやけどホントは関西っ子と自分の関西弁発音を練習したい... けど上と同じ、日本語を話す機会はあらへんな
てかなんで日本人が僕たち外人を避けやがっとるんやん、おかしくへん？

>>17774921
It's your choice but if I were you I'd be a little lenient, at least more lenient than your normal vocab card grading. You don't want to spend too much time writing kanji because it's not that helpful or useful.

>>17775153
>てかなんで日本人が僕たち外人を避けやがっとるんやん、おかしくへん
ないよ
やけるのはお互い様だ
友達なんか必要はない、永遠に

>>17775164
ぜ、全然日本人を避けとるんじゃないし…
そもそもガチくらい関西弁好きなので、関西人と話したら僕が変な人と思われる状況になるやん

目が潰れる

So is the Core6k deck made using the most common words found in newspapers? I'm 1100 words in and I'm getting an endless stream of really difficult politics/work related terms even though the words for star or sheep for example haven't come up.

>>17775246
Reading a newspaper has traditionally been a standard benchmark of literacy and doing Core will help.

If you're not interested in that you should just read what you want and mine instead.

Is iknow.jp a good learning site for japanese? $10 a month is a pretty great deal.

>>17775304
you can buy anything

>>17775304
I was a member for over a year but I didn't pay $10 a month. I got a 3 month coupon for free because they give them out on /r/learnjapanese all the time, and then I bought a 12 month pass which almost halved the normal price per month. It was a fun alternative to but I don't know if I would do it again.

>>17775180
当たり前だろうが
国際的なものじゃなく関西弁とかを使うなんておかしくないか？すごく曲がったと思われるのは当然だぜ。

>>17774191
Have you studied Japanese before these 193 days?

So, I'm 500 cards into the 2k/6k deck and finished reading a grammar guide (Genki 1 + 1st part of Sakubi).

I feel like it is time for me to start reading, and I'm eager to do so, too.

Where do I start? Or is it to early?

>>17775157
I'm writing the kanji just once, it takes some time but I use it as a judge of whether i know a kanji or not - if i did it all in my head i could be too easy on myself forgetting this or that

>>17775304
>>17775334
>that blatant shilling

>>17775554
It's never too early to start reading.

>>17775554
Yotsubato.

>>17775246
Are you showing new cards in order added or in random order? Check the settings, you want order added.

>>17775604
Yeah, I thought so, too. I've been busy before, but now I've got time, motivation and at least a handful of Kanji to work with.

>>17775608
Cool. Where do I pirate this shit?

This might be a dumb place to ask but I know nothing about Japanese but need to know what this character is.

I know it looks horrific and that's why I can't use a translator to find out the character.

>>17775735
http://jisho.org/#radical

play hide and seek with kanji parts until you figure out stroke order

>>17775735
隊
Search radicals

>>17775753
I tried but I couldn't find it, guess I missed it
>>17775756
Thanks my man

>>17775686
Doctor Google

>>17775784
Yeah, I thought it would be hard to find because I wanted the JP original and not translations, but it was easier than expected.

Excuse my lazy ass.

Translation?

Ya know, I just realized something. Nipponese doesn't have capitalization. So how do things like nouns get distinguished and not confused for other words.

It also makes me wonder the origin of capitalization. A brief google shows nothing particularly interesting but nonetheless it is an interesting concept.

>>17776046
Please dont suck your moms dick


Yeah, kinda weird.

>>17776046
don't do it inside ``kudasai''

跪く
漲る
蔑む
覆す
操る
奉る
司る
承る

>>17773858
I found it really useful as a matter of getting grammar down. The feedback is pretty helpful as a matter of figuring out what you're fucking up and getting a relatively random assortment of sentence structures.

It has a lot of room for improvement, and the lack of a lot of kanji is a big minus. It also ends seemingly way too soon, and the interval for when it prompts you to review a subject is wonky. For example, I'd tackle a few new lessons a week, and until I finish a tier I'd have up to 15 reviews a day. Finish the tier though, and you hardly get any prompts for the stuff you just barely covered. I just finished the last course last night, and normally by now I'd have a lesson that was up for review. Nothing so far, so I've just been doing general reviews. Kind of wish it would go on longer, just because it was really comfy for picking up vocabulary.

Overall pretty good if you only have an hour a day to study.

>>17776067
>So how do things like nouns get distinguished and not confused for other words
grammar

>>17776077
So it's "Never try this at home"?

>>17776257
>kudasai
Or "Please don't try this at home."
I'll change the preceding phrase too.

>>17776214
Oh, caveat with this. I didn't go in to Duolingo knowing nothing. I tested out of the first segment because I already knew kana and some basic grammar from tae Kim. You also have to be careful with their translations because sometimes they go the intent route rather than the literal route, like sometimes they have ください as "give me" instead of "please". It's very much a system where you need to research things independently to get the full nuance of everything.

It's great for actually practicing conjugations and getting particles down and learning it from an actual sentence instead of a table like TK.

>>17776257
think it's something about releasing fluids

So I guess this is the other half

Does moogy method work?

>>17776353
youre posting in the exact proof of why it doesnt

>>17776353
The fuck is moogy method?

>>17776364
Because I lurk at 4chan instead of reading?

おはようおにいちゃん

５にちぶりの

はれのあさ！

はれっていいよね

Hows my writing b0ss

>>17776484
うまくなったね

まえよりうまく　か　と　お　がかけるようになってるよ

かたかなのネきをつけて

I just realized the Nintendo Switch is a tablet, and if held rotated by 90° cw would be perfect for reading manga.

Unfortunately, it doesn't even have a web browser.
Is there a way to read manga on it somehow?
Maybe there's even a manga reading app on it in Japan?

何人ですか？

Does it mean "who are you?" or "what kind of person are you?".

>>17776531
use whatever device you used to post?

>>17776541
No, put it into jisho

>>17776541
How would you ask "how many people are coming to the party?"

>>17776543
PC monitor is simply not as comfy.
5'' phone screen is too small, but I can at least roll around in bed with it.

>>17776546
>>17776548
Thanks. I didn't know it could also be asking for nationality. How many people didn't make sense in the context.

>>17776552
>PC monitor is simply not as comfy.
buy something better than a milk crate to sit on pleb

>>17776484
>>17776497
にほんでは

よくないとされるかきかたに

　にどが
「二度書き」っていうのがあるよ

がんばっておにいちゃん

>>17776484
にどがきせずに

かけるように

がんばってみよう

>>17776127
Thanks for the words.

How many kanji does Core6K teach?

>>17776744
about 1600

>>17776353
Yes.

>>17776694
Spam filter is going mental for some reason and won't even allow pastebin links when obfuscated.

>>17776884
Here is that image.

>>17776884
>>17776887
Ah fuck me, quoted the wrong anon. Meant for >>17776744

>>17776643
あと波磔をつけたら良い美学の字

森のいずこかへ姿を消した。
Here, does いずこか mean "somewhere"? It looks similar to どこか; can you just throw か or でも on there and call it a day?

>>17776922
いずこ is the same as どこ

>>17776922
いずこかは

どこかといつかをあわせたかんじだとおもうよ

On Anki Core 2k/6k why does it pronounce 動く like 「うもく」？ Is this just an accent thing where the spoken word sounds different from how its spelled?

>>17777158
あたしのちほうでは

>うのく

にちかいはつおんするよ

>>17777158
https://forvo.com/word/%E5%8B%95%E3%81%8F/#ja

>>17777246
こないだもかいたんだけど

あたしのおじいちゃんは

>いのく

ってはつおんする

>いごく

これもきいたことある

ああっも おちんちん舐りたい

>>17777275

僕も

get

I'm trying to start up Parfait, but it won't boot up at all. I have my locale changed, I inserted the patch, and I tried to run it on compatability mode. Would anyone know the problem for it?

>>17777523
俺も

>>17777710
windows 10?

>>17777736
I'm on Windows 8.

>>17777745
What a shame. Install vm workstation or upgrade to win7.

>>17777753
I don't really have to install a VM do I?

ぞい

>>17777777
いいですね

>>17777777
You don't deserve it.

>>17777777
Y-You took it away!

>>17777777
ふきつな

しちながれだ

>>17777777
What does this even mean?

>>17777777
fucking nigger

>>17777806
Just be glad it wasn't this guy >>17777776

>>17777805
It's an expression of assertion used by middle aged men that was co-opted by otaku moe because of how it sounds.

>>17777777
認めました

>>17777777
Best get in the history of 4chan

>>17777777
shit thread, good girl get

>>17777872
Better than some idolshit thread

>>17777777
nice get

>>17777901
>not all 7s
not really I could get a better get in my sleep

>>17777777
>>17777805
>>17777815

>>17777964

>>17777777
>no even a 2hu
FUCK THIS GAY SHIT

test

おガキどもメ

>>17777777
くっ・・・こいつは生半可な狂気じゃねえぜ・・・

What's the best way to learn kanji?

>>17778105
touch penis while thinking about kanji
develop kanji fetish
never stop learning new kanji to satisfy sexual urges

かばんのしゅるいをあらわす

がいこくごをおしえてください

>>17778105
make sure you understand the kana very well. learn the radicals and a word or two that goes with them and suddenly you know radicals and like 300+ kanji you will see constantly. then start learning the kanji taught in grade school all the way up to high school after radicals.

this is if you want to learn kanji specifically. some people like to learn words that the kanji are used in instead of the kanji themselves

>>17778137
this works really well. tell yourself how much pleasure the kanji inside are. dream about kanji and rub your penis as you think about them

>>17778390
かばんちゃんの

かたちのかばんは

男の子がつかうもので

おんなはつかわないってどっかのくにのなんかでみた

つかったらだめ？

すごいね

>>17778524
それは間違ったロゴですね？

>>17778528
今入ってるやつんだけど・・・

>>17778524
>>17778528
>>17778534
Rule 11 faggot

>sakubi the day it was made
見過ごしちゃった

>>17778539
死ね

>>17778540
わかったわかった
それより、今日はなに読んでるの？

>>17778548
「すべてがちょっとずつ優しい世界」

そっちは？

Go back to shilling your shit guide on /int/ cocksucker

>>17778553
できそこないの物語です
マンガなので好き
http://sokuyomi.jp/product/dekisokona_001/CO/1/

あたしもなにかよもうかな

ドロドロなやつー

なすべきことをする覚悟があるか？

罪と罰と白痴とカラマーゾフの兄弟なら

どれがいい？

Is it actually common for males to address females by "-kun"? I don't recall ever seeing it in my anime, at least.

>>17768437

吮癰舐痔

Puts the expression "brown-noser" to shame.

あきがきたよ

このうどん

おいしいよ

>>17778867
Happens quite frequently in anime too. Especially older male teachers ofter adress their female students with -kun.

Is the particle の sometimes pronounced が or are my ears deceiving me? Many times now I've seen の in the subtitles but no matter how many times I replay the audio I can't make out anything other than が.I think this might have happened a few times the other way too. Is there some kind of dialect which can do this perhaps?

>>17779277
The subtitles are wrong. I can think of two possibilities. One, they're transcribing が in relative clauses as の, which is grammatically equivalent. Two, they're bad subs made by chinese people and they're replacing archaic possessive が e.g. 我が with の for some reason. Otherwise there's no reason for them to be wrong and they're just wrong.

>>17778994
とんじるには
ふつう
めんをいれない

>tfw really good at japanese but still can't read katakana fluently

＞ダットフィールウェンリーリシッティエッダジャパニーズバットアイケンリーッダカタカナフルエントリー

おはようみんな、私はここで新しくて日本語を勉強です。よろしくお願いがし!

What do you guys make of this https://bunpro.jp/about ? Anybody used it?

>>17779407
よろしゅうざんす！

>>17779435
ありがとうな(´・ω・｀)

>>17779432
It's advertised on reddit so it's probably shit. Probably can't beat reading.

マジくだんねー

>>17779475
I don't think anything could beat reading desu senpai. Can't really read if you don't have the initial ball rolling though.

>that ero scene I've been putting off reading isn't even an ero scene despite starting off with a woman on bed CG

>>17779432
>From grammar sites like Imabi and Tae Kim to great textbook resources like Genki and Sou Matome.
I like how they don’t even mention Sak*bi. Will definitely check that site out.

>>17778539
I'm kind of a stickler for the 4chan rules. To be fair global rule 11 has to be loosely enforced here since we recommend learning resources to each other. That being said I personally believe rule 11 should be enforced on the sakubi shit and also anyone coming here advertising apps.

sakubeeのおかげでわたしはlearned all the日本語

holy shit you people actually fell for the schizo's ranting what the fuck

>>17779548
Fucking dumbasses.

how do you fall for a rant

>>17779552
It's not "a rant", it's "ranting". Big difference.

how do you fall for ranting

>>17779558
Insane people rant to convince people to believe what they believe. When you believe what an insane person is ranting about, you fell for their ranting.

how do you know what someone believes on here

>>17779568
Ironic shitposting is just shitposting.

>>17779568
>>17779572
satire requires a clarity of purpose of target lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticize

gg ez no rere