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>>17617360
You idiot. Why are you making this a general.

The border was created somewhere around 1800s , by sages.So, do ALL creatures that humanity stop believing in drop by in Gensokyo or there are some sort of area restrictions?
It's just kinda strange to imagine that Hercules or Cú Chulainn might be wandering somwhere around Gensyoko or the fact some creatures like fomori,nagas, elves or some giants haven't tried to establish thier own city states.

>>17617407
The netherworld, old hell, new hell, the moon, makai, etc are not part of Gensokyo. That's your answer.

>>17617407
It's just kinda strange to imagine that Hercules or Cú Chulainn might be wandering somewhere around Gensyoko or the fact that some creatures like fomori,nagas, elves or some giants haven't tried to establish thier own city states.*

Which Touhou fangames do you recommend?

What is Reimu's exact powers? Borrow the power of her God? What exactly does her religion teach? How did she beat Sakuya and Remilia?

>>17617473
>What is Reimu's exact powers?
Twist reality, in a nutshell
>Borrow the power of her God?
Yee
>What exactly does her religion teach?
Nothing in particular
>How did she beat Sakuya and Remilia?
By being a hardass

>>17617407
>So, do ALL creatures that humanity stop believing in drop by in Gensokyo
Yes they do.

We've seen this happen in various cases in the official side materials where there have been one or two cases of extinct species appearing in Gensokyo I think a type of Cicada in CoLA and there was another one I forget where about a type of bird.

It goes as far as to material objects with the influx of dead Tablets/Smartphones showing up. I'm pretty sure there were some official stories too where Yukari ended up buying a Ipod and even a Gameboy off Rinnosuke.

>or there are some sort of area restrictions?
Probably not since Hecatia is a foreign deity (though has a pretty primodial link) Seiga Kaku is Chinese and you have the Scarlet Mansion who are foreign youkai. It's official in the canon Remi first language is English, probably multi-lingual and Japanese is a secondary language for her. There are hints of it as she misses the point of some Japanese customs a lot of the time.

>>17617473
Summoning gods is more like a class ability in that all shrine maidens can do it.

Reimu just happens to be a really shit Shrine Maiden who can't hear the voice of her own god and forgets how to summon except the times Yukari and Kasen smacked it back into her.

On paper Reimu's official personal ability is the vague 'to float away'. That is she becomes intangible to everything, she'd just float away from everything physically and spiritually into a higher dimension, basically it's the ability to ignore all borders.

It was implied way back in IN it's probably been sealed but you still see glimpses of it sometimes when Reimu teleports or her uncanny ability to smash barriers. It's basically the polar opposite of Yukari's ability to manipulate borders and gaps and Reimu simply ignores them.

Reimu's other personal abilities have always been her stupidly godly physical reflexes and intuition/instincts.

iM@Ses are idols, Vocaloids are idols, The gay porn dudees are treated as idols. the big things in otaku culture for the longest time have been idols. Are Touhous basically idols?

>>17617563
Now I really want to see Reimu trying to beat sense into rioting nephilims.

Is there an updated tier list on strongest to weakest?

What is the meta-canon of the games? Are they divided into "periods" or "themes" or "arcs", or does each essentially stand alone?

>>17617407
The original aspect of what would become Gensokyo created in the 1600s is what draws supernatural things into Gensokyo. It's specified there are no region limits.

>By establishing Gensokyo as an illusionary world, and the outside as the real world, the youkai weakened by the outside world would naturally flock to Gensokyo; this was a truly epochal event. With this, it ended up that even youkai from outside of Japan immigrated to Gensokyo.

Though ZUN I think has said there might be other Gensokyo-like lands out there. Then there are areas that are not part of Gensokyo and are their own thing, like >>17617417 said.
said.

>>17617728
The games are actually chronological by order of release, and the time period is about the year when they were released. Time in gensokyo passes in real time by game releases.

It's kind of weird.

>>17617389
I feel like a topic as broadly defined as "stupid questions regarding anything Touhou" won't stagnate to the same degree of shitposting as other generals, but I can't predict the future. Either way, so far this thread isn't bad, but I think it's for the best if it isn't reposted after this one.

>>17617803
Also, I'd like to mention that I'm not the OP. I was thinking about making another thread like it sometime down the line, but at least a month after the other one died, kind of like how gameplay threads weren't posted for a few months sometime last year.

>>17617407
youkai can willingly go in and out, but it attracts them and has lots of fear to get

fuck off we don't need another general

>>17617699
I don't think there's really that much difference from where it might have been a few years ago. The only real shakeup was Hecatia.

>>17617728
It's often specified as PC-98, Windows 1 (EoSD-IN or StB), 2 (MoF-HM), 3 (DDC-???) and so on. Squeezed in EoSD-StB was the Bougetsushou series...IN and related content like Silent Sinner and other stuff, which was a major part of Touhou creatively.

Windows 1 is more standalone than 2. Plots are independent of each other, with games merely sharing characters as playables.

Meanwhile in 2, characterized as the Religous War arc, you also have something linking one game to the next. You had the arrival of Kanako which led to SA which led to UFO which led TD which led to HM.

Windows 3 is iffier, but I personally characterize it as an attempted return to nostalgic plot and some gameplay elements (after UFO and TD) of the "old" Touhou. A youkai driven plot in DDC, the return of Bougetsushou arc in LoLK, and finally HSiFS which revealed some inner workings of Gensokyo like in PCB.

>>17617407
No, this was discussed in the last thread as well. ULiL confirms that belief is not enough to create a youkai on its own, which is why the urban legends required the occult orbs to exist, so clearly not every fantasy concept would even exist in the first place. As well, everything seen in Gensokyo is either a native concept, or explicitly from another place. The SDM and vampires in general arrived in Gensokyo in the 90s, long after they would have appeared if every fantasy concept was drawn to the place. Hecate and CP, Junko, and Seiga, are all clearly foreign, but all have explanations for why they are in Gensokyo. In fact, we have a canon example of foreign creatures being imported from elsewhere, in the hobgoblins that eventually settled in the SDM. The only exception to this is the Chupacabra, but one exception certainly doesn't disprove the general rule.
So no, Heracles wouldn't appear in Gensokyo for no good reason, and you won't see colonies of elves, or jötunn, and you probably won't see the Æsir emerge to reclaim Odin's spear from Remilia.

Though, that said, creatures can show up in Gensokyo whether or not they're supernatural. As the other anon alluded to, crested ibis began to appear in Gensokyo in large numbers when they became endangered in the outside world. As a general rule of thumb, things that exist in Japan that are forgotten, either literally or metaphorically, end up in Gensokyo.

>>17617473
Taking into consideration all canon sources, Reimu's powers seem to stem from her position as Gensokyo's guardian and her connection to the border. Her iconic yin-yang orb seems to act as a catalyst of divine power, though its importance varies depending on how much stock you put into PC98 canon. She innately has the power to float, likely thanks to her position, and this ability allows her to float beyond existence and phase in and out of reality, befitting a girl who guards a realm of fantasy and illusion. After PCB, we start to see Reimu use more border related magics, and various sources seem to imply that Yukari has trained her to some degree in these types of abilities. Her connection to the border likely gives her a natural talent for this sort of magic, though this is never explicitly confirmed in canon. Reimu can also call upon the gods for assistance by performing various miracles, and while she does do this on occasion this is mostly treated as a secondary ability. Finally, Reimu has access to various seals and weapons designed to harm or kill youkai, and has the knowledge required to do things such as seal away ghosts and lock supernatural powers, as she does to Suika at the climax of IaMP to prevent her from following through with her scheme.

>>17617699
Deus Ex Machina Tier
Lunarians in general
The Dragon God

Plot Armor Tier
The girl you decide to play as

Cannon Fodder Tier
Everyone else

>>17617728
>>17617868
I'd define it as PC98, Classic Era (EoSD - PoFV), Experimental Era (MoF-UFO), Revival Era (TD-LoLK), and the current era (HSiFS-???) based on certain mechanical and design related changes, but it's all arbitrary division.

>>17617786
Is that even true? I remember it being based off of PoFV, but has it ever been said in any remotely recent time?

Who can and can't face judgement from the Yama?

Never played touhou, where do I start?

>>17619349
EoSD

There's any chart or guide around to get started in Touhou doujinshi scene?
I'd like to start somewhere in order to know more about artists and similar stuff, something as an essential newbie list.

>>17619349
You can start with any game, really, but in my opinion the more beginner friendly ones--easier games that aren't as reliant on game specific mechanics--are the fourth, seventh, and tenth games.

>>17619349
touhou 6

>>17619410
It's all trash.

op's a faggot

>>17617594
Asking the real questions here, anon

kuso thread.

>>17618014
>explicitly from another place.
>In fact, we have a canon example of foreign creatures being imported from elsewhere, in the hobgoblins that eventually settled in the SDM
>So no, Heracles wouldn't appear in Gensokyo for no good reason, and you won't see colonies of elves, or jötunn, and you probably won't see the Æsir emerge to reclaim Odin's spear from Remilia.
You lost me.

what happens when a yukkuri falls on hecatia's hat?

>>17620305
Nothing. Hecatia's body doesn't actually change (for reason of hats or anything else). Her power is stated to have 3 bodies at once, not to change her form. The colour coding is merely an aesthetic mean, and the particular orb she keeps in her hat corresponding to the specific body's domain is more akin to a badge of office or a uniform.

Think about it like this: if you took a policeman's badge and stuck it on your clothes, would you become a policeman? Some people may then see you as so, but it's not the badge that makes a policeman. If the Dream World Heca put on something else in her hat, even another orb, she wouldn't stop being the Dream World Heca. But it could certainly confuse the onlookers.

>>17617728
The only real loosely connected 'arcs' so to speak of is the Bougetsushou/Lunarian arc which goes IN->SSiB->CiLR. Plus the Religious War, MoF->UFO->TD->SoPM->Hopeless Masquerade which concludes it.

Everything else is effectively a standalone individual story within the lore of the series.

>>17619181
It's always been the case.

Many Gensokyo events can always be directly mappable to contemporary world events. We even had a direct birth date in the case of Hieda no Akyuu and now we have Sumireko's presence which confirms everything.

Even the Sealing Club Stories which take place far off into the future follow a easily mappable timeline.

Where can I find good touhou erotica like the nazrin rape story on /at/

Why does every board need a "stupid questions" thread? Use the fucking catalog and post in the thread you have a fucking question about. There doesn't need to be Yet Another Fucking General.

>>17617407
could have made a thread

>>17617445
there's usually fan game thread. THREAD, not general

>>17617473
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>>17617594
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>>17617699
>>17377185
could have been a shitposted and deleted thread, too

>>17617728
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>>17618014
How would he have known that it he doesn't want to look at the fucking board. If you're too scared to post, DON'T FUCKING POST. LURK MOAR and use the fucking touhou wiki.

>>17619341
there's usually an eiki thread
any character question can be asked in a character thread and can almost always be answered in the wiki IF YOU'D FUCKING USED GOOGLE

>>17619349
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>>17619410
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>>17620305
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Just get rid of the fucking catalog already. The very idiots it was made for don't even use it PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY'RE IDIOTS

Does 2ch/an have an /x/?
Do they have their own online creepypastas?
Do you think Raymoo and the gang can exploit creepypastas like what they did in ULiL?

>>17621110
(popular) creepypastas (slender, SCP, etc) are like urban legends except they get more recognition, and again, mostly believed by clueless kids that don't spend 10 minutes to learn about the story behind the story.

>>17621033
ゆっくりしていってね

>>17621110
There is a Japanese scp community but it's mostly translations of the originals.

>>17620140
Hobgoblins were explicitly imported from outside Gensokyo by Yukari. This implies that they were living elsewhere prior, and the fact that they weren't in Gensokyo to begin with shows that Gensokyo is not the only place such beings can exist.
So yes, my feeble minded weeb friend, foreign entities do not just appear in Gensokyo without some deeper explanation, and the border does not drag things in from around the world.

>>17621033
>could have made a thread
That no one will answer

>>17621033
Neither of the threads you linked include hardcore rape stories (NOT DOUJINS)

>>17619181
>but has it ever been said in any remotely recent time?
PoFV is acknowledged as the second hit of the 60-year cycle. So Gensokyo is 120 years old at that point. In ULiL, when Kasen punches a whole through the barrier in Marisa's story, she says that the seal is 130 years old. ULiL was released 10 years after PoFV.

>>17621110
One of the Urban Legends was a Japanese creepy pasta, so yes.

how do I get into touhou ???

>>17621328
>the border does not drag things in from around the world.
It's been said that it can, but we've only seen one case of that happening naturally (the snake youkai from FS) so the effect doesn't seem that powerful.

Who is ZUN's favorite? Why do artist take liberties on Reimu's hair? What is the difference between Shanghai and Hourai? Are imoutos inheritely stronger than their onee-chan's?

>>17622559
Reimu, ZUN can't decide between black and brown, none, no

>>17622349
>why do artist take liberties on Reimu's hair
Girls are allowed to have only one hairstyle or what?

>>17622626
Needs more purple Reimu

>>17622626
I didnt think Reimu could afford hairstyles.

>>17617601
I told myself I wouldn't quip about that Frederick boy, and I won't.
>young man

>>17622626
No Oni Miko, therefore this is inferior to maximum Reimu.

>>17622559
>What is the difference between Shanghai and Hourai?
None, they're both purely fan-made nobodies.

>>17622703
Context required

>>17622309
Short answer, play EoSD as stated earlier in the thread.
Long answer, pic related.
Playing the PC-98 titles is optional since they are 99% irrelevant to the rest of the franchise.

>>17622559
>What is the difference between Shanghai and Hourai?
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom/Spell_Cards/Stage_3

>>17622641
She even gets her hands on hair dye every once in a while.

Does Kasen theme have that part in Necrofantasia/Necrofantasy and Concealed Four Seasons? You know the one. That super catchy one. That one that goes ten-ten-ten-te-teeeeen teeen-ten-ten-te-teeeen-teeen-teeen te-teeen-ten-ten-te-teeen-ten-ten-te-TEEEEEN. I've been trying to listen in for it but it seems it's not there... would've been great if the three had some sort of unifying tune in their themes.

>>17623048
Having Yukari as a friend sure has its benefits.

>>17623048

sometimes she even dies her skin

>>17619349
EoSD easy mode.
Or IN.
MoF is also a very gud option.

What country is Merry from?

>>17624946
With a name like Merribelly Hearn, we don't have that many good candidates other than Ireland.

>>17624555
If it makes you feel better, they do have a shared visual element.

>>17624958
>Merrybelly
Could be American.

>>17624977
Pretty amazing that this western fanart keeps getting posted here and on futaba.

>>17624977
Why is kasen lying about not being a oni again?

It's so obvious that its stupid.

>>17617817
>and out
Not out, in general.

>>17625365
Who can go out on their own? Let's try to list them all

Yukari
Kasen

That's all I got friends.

>>17625487
Sumireko
Okina

>>17625487
Mamizou

>>17627722
Sumi is not a youkai.

>>17624946
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>>17624977
>Named after a Greek-Irish guy who spent most of his adult life in America

>>17625487
Kasen required a special occasion to get out.

The list of youkai who we've seen leave freely is pretty small, actually.

Yukari
Mamizou
Raiko

That might not be the entire list of youkai who could, but these are the only three we've seen do it.

>>17627722
>Sumireko
Explicitly can't come and go freely outside of dream projections, that's why she's scheming to find a way in for good.
>Okina
A god, but if we were to expand this list to include non-youkai then yes, absolutely.

What is this guy and where did he come from?

>>17629081
2ch ASCII art meme. Somebody posted it in some thread without the hat, then someone else drew the hat on and it flew into popularity. It's called Yagokoro-sensei (but ヤゴコロ instead of 八意).

>>17629690
well he's my new favorite meme

>>17625487
Define "out". Everyone who goes from the netherworld to gensokyo is technically going out (yuyuko and the prismrivers)

>>17630135
Outside World I guess.

>>17629950
It's a really old meme, I'm sure a large portion of the fandom have never seen him besides in a couple famous PVs.

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>>17625048
>Implying Kasen is an oni.

She's a perfectly normal unhorned human sage and don't you dare say otherwise. Does she look like a drinking japanese gobulin to you?

>>17629029
Special occasion? She just went out and got fish from the outside world on a whim.

>>17624555
One more similarity: both of them go against the flow of regular Touhou games.
Yukari:
-- The boss of a stage not found in any other touhou game
Okina:
-- Appears twice as a boss in a single game.
This one's a stretch because fairy wars did it first but
Kasen:
-- Appears in an official manga before appearing in a game.

>>17630726
>Yukari and Okina's are completely identical
What could these two be planning behind Kasen's back?

>>17624946
We don't actually know, it's never stated.

All we know of her personal life is simply she is a gaijin who for some reason speaks fluent Japanese yet is confirmed to have no family or links in Japan.

Renko calls her out on it at some point that Maribel's existence doesn't seem to make sense to begin with.

>>17630738
If Yukari is on the side of youkai... and Kasen is on the side of humans...

>>17624958
>Merrybelly
That explains the fanart.

What are your favorite Touhou or ZUN quotes? They don't have to be funny or anything, just quotes and phrases that you appreciate.

>>17631065
No, that's just regular degeneracy.

>>17631072
My favourite ZUN quote is:
>(laughs)
I'm quoting ZUN, of course.

>>17631112
Why do you like ZUN dodging questions?

>>17631112
Now now, which quote does this remind me of so heavily of I wonder

>>17631154
Ahah, I really don't know

>>17617728
They stand alone however there are a few arcs that happen to be arcs. Really, it's more like a timeline with various events from the series' start (or rather, the start of the windows games) to now. Time is also 1:1 with reality so 20 actual years have passed.

>>17620561
I'd also add that there's a "Sagume's fuckups" arc as spurred by Junko and Hecatia's antics. She created the orbs which created the urban legends which led to MANY incidents and seems to also be leading into the next fighting game. Furthermore there seems to be something special about them, or so Yukari alluded. So, something like ULiL->LoLK->AoCF. Might be something starting with Okina's stuff too.

>>17619341
If you're not in her jurisdiction (Gensokyo) she has no reason to judge you. Not that I think it'd stop her from lecturing you.

>>17617360
I would like to get into this. What do?
Is there a manga or anime to start reading?
Is it just a game? Which do I begin?
Is this all just a meme?
And how is this otaku culture?

>>17624958
Funnily enough, the Irish kind of went all over the place. Could just as well be American.

>>17625048
She's not "lying", but omitting truth. She is, technically, basically, I guess, a hermit. She has hermit abilities and follows some hermit creeds. In a lot of way? Totally not a hermit, but most characters don't actually know many hermits. Miko and her crew even came in late, and when they did Kasen even sought some hermit-like advice from her.

Anyway, she has an image to maintain clearly, so no oni reveal. Or maybe she's embarrassed because she was supposed to be one of the strongest mythical creatures, and one of the strongest among her race, but something actually removed and burgled her fucking arm (even though oni have no weaknesses)

>>17631248
just a meme, like Kemono Friends

>>17631126
I don't know! (laughs)

>>17631248
see image
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>>17630726
She got the fish from Sumireko. In ULiL she used the Occult Balls to break through. If she could leave at any time to leave and look for her arm you would think she would have.

>>17629029
Maybe Remilia? It's hinted they have their own back channels to bring in exotic stuff from the outside.

And Rinnosuke almost did it by simply trancing his way out before being brought back by Yukari.

>>17631072
''lolitastic'' - zun when talking about flan

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>>17631453
I always assumed that she imported via Yukari.

Is Alice the girl from Doll in Pseudo Paradise?

>>17631836
Maybe. There's no concrete proof for or against it.

>>17631126
I just realized he also laughs in other occasions, but the one at the end of the discussion about Lafcadio Hearn is iconic. Still better than "Please don't care about the past", screw that shit, I care about Bones. I will always care.
>>17631836
I think an easy answer would be "She's just the blonde girl on the cover". I want to know who's the girl with the Chinese red hat though.

>>17630986

>>17631453
>Maybe Remilia?
Definitely not. It's a fact Remi gets everything she wants through trading with Yukari.

>>17631248
Touhou is technically all of them except anime.

Pick up one of the games and start reading the printworks is usually the best starting point.

The Touhou Wiki is a great starting point for everything.

>>17630986
Kasen isn't on anyone's side, it's pretty obvious at this point what Kasen believes in is a utopia where everyone can co-exist freely.

When she says she believes in the law of the heavens it means Kasen believes in the natural order and letting things work out themselves with mediation and helping each other.

Yukari's scheming/manipulation to create a status quo is a perversion of the desire to let people co-exist freely which is why they don't see eye to eye.

>>17631453
>Maybe Remilia?
Definitely not. It's a fact Remi gets everything she wants through trading with Yukari.

>>17631248
Touhou is technically all of them except anime.

Pick up one of the games and start reading the printworks is usually the best starting point.

The Touhou Wiki is a great starting point for everything.

is buying the physical game disks worth it? Is it common to buy the disks?

>>17632478
I'd like to think that the girl in chinese hat is the miko in the story, one of the past Hakurei Shrine maiden who is somehow is a chinaboo or just straight up half chinese, a combination of two country's mystical greatness.

The pierrot is Yukari, I think.

>>17629029
When did Raiko leave Gensokyo?

>>17632850
>Is it common to buy the disks?
Literally the only game you can buy not on a disc is DDC. It is the only method of purchasing the game.

>>17617360
So is the entire Hakurei shrine the boundary? This would mean that the boundary is a 4-dimensional spacetime by which the outer world and Gensoko (both 4-dimensional spacetime manifolds) are glued together to form a 5-dimensional cobordism. However the category of cobordism classes nCob so far are only characterized for n < 4, and unitary TQFTs on nCob are nondegenerate for n = 4, meaning that you can't naively form a sensible physical Yang-Mills theory to describe matter in 4-dimensions. This would basically render the entire boundary project impossible even in principle.
So how did the sages do it? Bypassing this would mean that they (namely Yukari, since I don't think any other sages are smart enough) have to impose new structures on quantum invariants that are sensitive to the exotic differential structures that some boundary 4-manifolds have, while adding too much structure would break the property of topological invariance of what a quantum invariant should have in 5Cob.

The AoCF demo doesn't work ;_;

>>17634246
Pls help

>>17634250
no

>>17634053
>So is the entire Hakurei shrine the boundary?
No, think of it as the linchpin. The barrier is kinda all around Gensokyo, even noticeably weak in some areas. It's definitely weird, but you're on the wrong track.

If youkai are manifestations of people's beliefs, what happens if a group of people start having different ideas about a youkai's personality. For example, what if Yukari brought in a bunch of people from /jp/ that had some fan-wank personality in there heads. If there were enough of them, would it change the original Yukari or create a new one that's lazy, sensitive about her age, promiscuous, etc.

If Yukari wants people to start believing in youkai again, why doesn't she barge into a UN conference, announce who she is and use her powers to pull off feats science can't explain.

>>17625487
If Reimu is the one maintaining the Great Hakurei Barrier, does that mean she can go out if she wants to?

>>17633687
Before you encounter her in Extra. Her entire backstory is that she left Gensokyo, and found a new power source and body.

>>17634606
>If youkai are manifestations of people's beliefs
I don't think it's as simple as that. Most people believe Nue to be a sort of chimera, but that's clearly not what Nue looks like. Youkai seem to represent certain aspects of belief, and they are sensitive to it, but it seems more like a situation where they subsist off belief in general, they aren't defined by it.

>If Yukari wants people to start believing in youkai again
She probably realizes that the reveal that youkai exist would do more harm than good for her side, youkai in general can't really exist in a scientific world and they would eventually be phased out again, and she has a lot invested in Gensokyo.

>>17634606
Gods are manifestations of belief. Youkai are manifestations of superstitions and fears. Similar but not exactly the same. They're indeed born of human consciousness, but they seem hardly able to change from how they initially were. Also Touhou is weird about things cause, like, Tengu for instance come in their typical appearance or as pretty ladies. Kappa, however, are only pretty Jew girls.

>>17634608
Yeah

>>17617360
Are there any Touhou futanari?

>>17635107
Miko

>>17635107
Not exactly futanari, but all Tanuki have testicles.

>>17634606
>If youkai are manifestations of people's beliefs, what happens if a group of people start having different ideas about a youkai's personality.
You need to stop posting and just go and read Symposium of Post Mysticism, there was a large discussion on this exact subject in the book which answers everything and far more.

Gensokyan youkai have been liberated to some extent from this old trait that the established ones are able to choose their own forms. They still need faith/fear/spirit to sustain their forms but are no longer bound to the human imagination to dictate their form.

>If Yukari wants people to start believing in youkai again, why doesn't she barge into a UN conference, announce who she is and use her powers to pull off feats science can't explain.
Because ultimately outside world humans would still attempt to rationalize and understand instead of fearing and respecting.

>>17634772
>Tengu for instance come in their typical appearance
Think it was mentioned at some point by Aya the traditional Tengu look belong to a different caste who never leave the mountain.

how do I get into the story? I played eosd and I understood what happened in that game but I don't feel like I know the story of touhou for playing it.
do I just need to play the rest? or do I have to do something more to get into the story

>>17635657
>do I just need to play the rest?
Yes, you also need to read the print works and the prologues for the games. And the CD stories. You can find them on the wiki. Take your time though, it's a series.

>>17617360
I started eosd and I'm confused why reimu is always portrait as cute.

>>17633758
the alternative would be pirating it online, which is what im doing now

>>17630726
damn I guess Alice is a sage now.

Where can I get obscure touhou music?

>>17636611
That isn't an alternative. The question was "is it common to buy the discs" and "are the discs worth it", implying there was any other method of purchase. It was probably asked precisely because they didn't realize the games are almost entirely sold physically due to the rampant piracy the western fanbase sees.

Sunny makes them invisible. Star can detect things. What does Luna do?

>>17639437

Makes stuff not produce noise.

As someone who just plays for fun and pretty much only plays the main titles, what is the basic plot of these games? Cause the games dont really explain much.

>>17641075
>As someone who just plays for fun
>who just plays for fun
>plays for fun
>fun
What a worthless human being you are

Legend says that if ZUN quits drinking the world will end, is it true?

>>17621033
Hello, operator? Please link me to the Parsee thread.

>>17635506
>>Think it was mentioned at some point by Aya the traditional Tengu look belong to a different caste who never leave the mountain.
yeah, that's what I'm referring to, long noses and all

>>17635657
read the backstory, profiles, and generally just whatever's in omake.txt These are all on the wiki as character profiles, story, etc

>>17641075
Reimu and Marisa are drinking tea and sitting at the shrine.
An incident is brought to their attention.
It is strongly implied that both of them canonically now go out and beat the shit out of usually 3 unrelated girls, one semi-related girl, a cohort, and a final boss who is probably the source of the incident.
Brief return to normalcy.
Something is brought to the girls' attention about another little brouhaha. They beat up another girl. The end.

>>17637305
Why? Is this because she was own midboss?
Thinking about it again, Yuyuko is both stage 6 and 1 character. So not really saying that only the sages have weird placements but that they are similar in this regard.

If the Hourai Elixir prevents change, how did Mokou's hair grow to the huge length that it is now? Is it just a side effect of the elixir? I mean, every other Hourai has very long hair.

>>17644872
Nobody knows.

>>17644678
PC98 dummy.

Why had ZUN stopped making just midboss characters? We have only new stage bosses but not new midbosses.

are youkai white?

>>17646687
No, they go in the gas chamber regardless of their complexion

>>17646647
Because they are literally useless.
Daiyousei, Koakuma, Lily White, Shizuha Aki, Momiji, Kisume. All of their sprites are just a memory waste in the data of every game.
Tewi is probably the only well developed midboss character since she has her own boss battle, theme and dialogues in PoFV.

>>17646740
Nobody cares about wasting secondary memory, dude. Even Starbound, a 2D platformer, is 2GB.

>>17646647
ZUN still has characters show up just to be midbosses, though, like Cirno in DDC and Lily in HSiFS. He introduces chatacters this way only sparingly, and typically to flesh out factions that are a little empty (Tewi for Eientei, Momiji for Tengu, and Tojiko for Taoists), but he hasn't had to do that recently, as all featured groups are either intentionally small (DDC, HSiFS), or already vast (LoLK).
EoSD is the exception, Daiyousei and Koakuma are meaningless filler, a design philosphy that's a hold over from the PC98 era. ZUN wasn't as worried about solid world building back then.

>>17646826
wtf, who works there?

>>17646740
Fuck you, there's literally nothing wrong with Dai, Lily or Kisume.

If Yukari hates Lunarians, what was she even doing when Lunarians were invading in LoLK?

>>17650556
Masturbating with Okina.

>>17650556
Mysterious bullshit. As we can see in Marisa's ending she knew what was going on and was interested in the lunar orb. As we can see in WaHH she even fiddled with the effects of the BS Sagume caused. But, she let on very little. Shit like "it's fine if Gensokyo changes". It doesn't seem like her usual laziness, more like planning for something and explaining nothing.

>>17647063
I find a fair amount wrong with Daiyousei. She shouldn't even be considered a character, really. Doesn't even have a name.

>>17644872
it prevents wounds, sickness, and death, though I'll admit I don't know if it's supposed to put you in some eternity state or what; I have yet to fully delve into the Lunarian back fluff

>>17650556
Sleeping

>>17650583
Was Okina using the "back door"?

>>17650956
All the doors.

>>17652262
This.

>>17650654
Daiyousei at least reappears in Fairy Wars.
That's more than you could say of Koakuma.

>>17617360
What do the 2hus smell like?

>>17624946
European at least. Maybe white American.

>>17625042
Nips understand english? Show me.

>>17619410
Just go on Dynasty Reader and start with the ones lined up along the side.

>>17617360
why characters change eye color so much?

>>17656925
Contacts are all the rage in gensokyo

Why is EoSD polarizing?

>>17653685
Not really. Some guy was being a bro and posted translations for everyone.

>>17657497
Because it's popular.

>>17657550
Show me.

>>17658061
Do you know how 東方裏 works? Its an old post I didn't bother screen shotting.

is wild and horned hermit worth getting into? I just want to see the 2hus in a darker edgier kind of thing.

>>17659044
No as Kasen's just painfully boring.

>>17659044
Wild and Horned Hermit is basically "Reimu sucks". Try Forbidden Scrollery for the (slightly) darker and edgier portrayals.

There was an interview with ZUN where he revealed that the star in Yuugi's horn is actually a motherfucking Jojo reference. He said something to the effect of "this Jojo character is cool, so I gave Yuugi a star so she could be cool like him".

However I can't find it right now. Anyone know where it is?

At the risk of becoming this frog, what is up with people acting like Fortune Teller somehow did nothing wrong? We are given several very clear reasons for his execution (which he didn't even try to run from), and yet there seems to be a faction even here on /jp/ that defends him with furious zeal.

What gives?

>>17660271
No idea, but ZUN has put Jojo references into his games before so that wouldn't be shocking.

>>17660328
For some it's an opportunity to spout memes about Reimu being evil, while others are pissed because they would totally do what the Fortune Teller did if they were in Gensokyo.

>>17660271
It's believable.

He has gone on record admitting Sakuya & Remi as a unit are a blatant nod to Dio Brando to the point Remi even shares one of his famous quotes.

The specific interview you're talking about is from a magazine named Cara*Mel which regularly does interviews with ZUN to coincide with all his game and manga releases. It was a huge 2 part interview to celebrate SA. ZUN mentions Yuugi's star is in tribute to the original Jojo's star birthmark. Even her sake dish gimmick is a tribute to the one fight in Part 1 with Zeppeli & Jojo where they carry a glass of wine without spilling a drop.

You can even see a nod to those interviews in the fandom with that one recent Sound Holic PV where Sakuya is carrying Remi around the place and the Yuugi vs Sakuya fight.

https://youtu.be/2FTaSBBhbzA

>>17617389
This, it will kill all non-shitposting threads

So I haven't exactly been involved with the touhou games/fandom since the Unidentified Fantastic Object main game line. What are the basic plots for the main games after that line? Did it eventually become more than just resolving incidents of newcomers?

>>17669954
Kind of actually, it's a bit interesting because around UFO and even before it we started getting chains of incidents. UFO itself is the result of hell being opened up in SA, which was the result of Kanako's machinations after MoF.

Ten Desires has a bit to do with UFO, as that cunt Byakuren parked her huge boat temple on a graveyard deliberately in an attempt to stop a famous Taoist's resurrection. Hopeless Masquerade was supposed to be the result of Buddhists and Taoists fighting, and the main antagonist Kokoro is the now-sentient creation of Prince Shotoku, but it doesn't have much to do with anything really and is rather self-contained.

Double Dealing Character is, as far as I know, entirely self contained aside from the direct sequel, Impossible Spell Card.

Then we have Urban Legend in Limbo, a chapter of Wild and Horned Hermit implying a whole lot, Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom, an arc of Forbidden Scrollery, ULiL PS4, and possibly Antimony of Common Flowers ALL stemming from the actions of the character Sagume Kishin, who isn't actually introduced until LoLK. She basically created a bunch of magical objects that have been causing trouble in a number of ways since ULiL. She manipulated the high school girl Sumireko Usami to fuck with the Gensokyo barrier and spread around her orbs, she filled Gensokyo with urban legends, she intended to use this to wipe Gensokyo clean and move the Lunar Capital there as a contingency plan (not the actual incident of LoLK, but a result of it), her orbs got severely out of hand and to our knowledge are still an active problem (they could've caused the apocalypse in FS and they were causing miniature incidents and weird "youkai" in WaHH). They seem to have gotten doubly out of hand with AoCF but we don't know entirely what that's about yet.

Despite all this, it seems Hidden Star in Four Seasons, the latest game, was self-contained although there are suggestions that the final boss from it is not done fucking around.

>>17669954
You missed a lot then, UFO is kind of the beginning of a point where ZUN started to coalesce multiple bits of lore in the series to form a coherent bigger story/world.

-Ten Desires
Byakuren parks her boat temple on top of the grave of a Buddhist mortal enemy to try prevent the awakening of Toyosatomimi no Miko a Taoist Hermit/Saint but ends up being the trigger for it. Also notable is the introduction of Seiga Kaku one of the few pure evil characters in the series and Mamizou a Bakedanuki who becomes important in the spinoff games and printworks.

-Hopeless Masquerade & Symposium of Post Mysticism
Previous 3 games lead to the religious wars arc with the Buddhists, Taoists, Hakurei, Moriya all competing for Faith which is concluded by this game and fanbook. Also Koishi from SA inadvertedly ends the religious wars by bullying a newly born Tsukomogami youkai named Hata no Kokoro who the factions end up bonding to help.

-Double Dealing Character & Impossible Spell Card
Sort of a standalone game + StB style spinoff which also carries on the Tsukomogami mini arc and introduces Seija Kijin a evil youkai who aims to destroy Gensokyo's order later resulting in everyone turning against and hunting her down.

See >>17670114 for a rough overall gist but after this is the point now Touhou has gotten really interesting as there is now a interconnecting narrative between all the spinoff printworks and main + spinoff games.

Short summaries anyway
-Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom
Pretty huge scale story, Lunarians full scale invade Gensokyo and the protagonists have to team up with Eientei to repel the threat whilst also dealing with a Divine Spirit who is driving the Lunarians to the brink. Also Yukari shows up hinting at something huge happening in future which seems to be the Great Youkai Sages. Game also introduces the strongest Touhou in the entire series.

-Urban Legend in Limbo
Urban Legends start appearing as unstable youkai, leading to a incident with the Gensokyo Barrier coming under threat from the outside world inadvertedly also causing the Lunarian invasion. Also introduces Sumireko the ancestor of Renko from the music collection Sealing Club stories. Also starts the new Great Youkai Sages story thread which is still developing by revealing Kasen from the WaHH manga as one of Yukari's co-creators of Gensokyo.

-HSiFS
Doors appearing all over Gensokyo cause seasons to go out of sync cause turns out to be a primordial god who is revealed as the third Great Youkai Sage who created Gensokyo announcing their return.

What about the cute boy toohoos?

That must be increased!

As someone who knows the setting basics but has no firsthand experience:
>How exactly do I get the games? Is Amazon the best place, or is there an easier way? What does Moriya Shrine have to do with the process - does it just have translation patches, the full games, or a mix (e.g. only having versions of a certain age)?
>Are there rules to how magic works besides "What ZUN thinks looks right" and "studying the world is involved somehow"?

>>17617360
Alright, this is probably the wrong place to ask this but what do you call it when there is a little bit of skirt parted at the top as in the attached picture? I really like it. Is there a specific term for this situation?

Does Ex-Keine also eat human meat or is she just fine with eating history?

>>17671232
nah she would not live in the village if she ate humans

>>17671232
she prob just dont eat while she is on her youkai form.

After playing eosd what official manga should I read first ?

>>17671134
hip_vent

>>17671232
She doesn't. There are very few actual man-eating youkai in Gensokyo, contrary to what Zounose wants you to believe.

>>17671344
The fairies one, the old original ones with the shitty art.

>>17670488
>Seija Kijin
>an evil youkai

>>17671103
>How do I get into the games?
Moriya Shrine is where most people download the games. ZUN is okay with people pirating the games, because it allows it to be more accessible than having to buy one of the original (possibly fake) copies for lots of money online. Most Moriya Shrine downloads have English patches, except for maybe HSiFS.
>Are there rules to magic?
Sort of. Anyone can learn magic, human or youkai, but using magic to ascend to immortality via spells that remove the need for nutrition and homeostasis brings one to youkai status, specifically as a part of the "magician" youkai race. Some people are born into this "magician" youkai race, like Patchy, and some get there using the method I stated earlier, like Alice. Marisa is considered a magician, but not a YOUKAI magician, like Patchy and Alice. Anyone can learn magic via rigorous studying, training, or the use of artifacts

If by magic you meant the innate ability of the characters, it usually comes naturally to youkai, but not to humans. Humans have the potential to be stronger than youkai, but youkai are naturally stronger than the average human. To even the odds, the spellcard rule was established, which is a type of danmaku duel that's fair both to humans and youkai. Danmaku can be literally anything, from giant magical lasers to tiny pebbles thrown by a disgruntled child. The pebbles won't necessarily be powerful or effective, but it still counts. The point is to fight until one side cannot fight anymore without using lethal means.

Is "Bibliophile with a Deciphering Eye" Kosuzu's theme? It's clearly about her, but is it her DEFINING music piece?

>>17671649
Within the setting I think only youkai explicitly ever said to consume human is Remi & Flan who Yukari is implied to provide for. As it tuns out they apparently have no appetites anyway to the point they can't even really finish a small slice of cake.

>>17672187
Yes, it's literally named after her.

>>17671790
It's kind of in her nature, she instinctively rebels against everything. She'll always be chaotic evil because she'll always go against established laws/norms no matter what otherwise it goes against her very nature as an amanojaku.

>>17672177
>Marisa is considered a magician, but not a YOUKAI magician, like Patchy and Alice.
Worth mentioning it's the reason behind Marisa's 'Ordinary Magician' moniker. It's just an amusing way of saying she's a magician who still retains her humanity.

>>17672228
Half of this is head canon and the other half is stupid.

>>17672177
>Moriya Shrine is where most people download the games.
Alright, it's a full download site.
I tried to use it once before, but got confused by the CMD-like install screen - is there any "for dummies" guide to those?

>Magic
I knew most of that from the CYOA, though it's good to confirm it.
I was mainly wondering about the underpinnings of magic - I remember reading on a wiki that different characters used entirely different elemental systems (and that Patchouli was a "western mage using eastern elements" as opposed to... Marisa, I think?), so it seems like ZUN uses the "magic is the power of belief" over any more unified system. Or am I wrong?

Also, if a human + youkai pairing creates a half-youkai who can both use youkai powers (to some extent) and learn magic, how do Magicians (whose Youkai ability seems to be learning magic) fall? Would a Human + Magician crossbreed be any different than a human magician partway on the path to Youkai-hood? Would a Magician + some other Youkai hybrid be any different than a half-human who later mastered magic?

>>17671344
see >>17622873

do note, although this is amazing in that it points out the exact chapters of things to read and when, I don't know how much you'd like splitting everything up

>>17672591
>I tried to use it once before, but got confused by the CMD-like install screen - is there any "for dummies" guide to those?
what are you talking about? you literally just click "download EoSD/PCB/IN" and it takes you to mega where you click download.

>>17672621
forgot link
http://moriyashrine.weebly.com/classic-era-th6th95.html

>>17617360
I wonder what Okuu's eggs smell like haha

>>17672591
>Moriya Shrine
Are you talking about the weebly website? Go to the page for the mainline games, there should be mega links.

>Marisa and Patchy
There's no real completely established magic system, since so many magics exist. Patchy uses elemental magic, and Marisa (mainly) uses celestial magic. Both of them probably know many different kinds of a much wide variety of magic, but they just prefer to use those specific kinds of magic in their danmaku. It's not just an elemental system.

>Magicians and Youkai-Human Pairing
Magicians are simply youkai that use magic to gain immortality. We can assume that Patchy's magician status at birth gives her a natural knack for learning magic, but that's just speciation. We can also assume that she was either willed into existence, like many other youkai, or that she is the offspring of two other magician youkai. We don't really know enough about her to tell. As for half-breeds, we know about half-human half-youkai people (Rinnosuke and Youmu, perhaps some others that I'm forgetting), and they have EXTREMELY decreases aging (maybe immortality?) and a minor ability. As for youkai-hybrids, we really have no examples to go off of. It'd probably adhere to how it's handled in Japanese mythology.

>>17672682
>speciation
Speculation, my bad.

This is a pretty epic Stupid Questions General. Where's the discord?

>>17672645
Okuu herself probably smells like bread, soy sausage, tinned meat and energy drinks

>>17672625
>>17672621
I may have downloaded the wrong file, but when I tried to open it, I got a black-and-white DOS-style setup screen with tons of options, like choosing which of fifty different patches to install.
If that's not normal, though, I'll have to try again as soon as I get my laptop.

>>17672682
Alright, so a lot of the stuff is just not fleshed out much. Good to know, though.

>>17672591
>entirely different elemental systems
I think I remember the discussion you're mentioning, it was just a thematic thing on how Marisa, who is Japanese, dresses like a western witch while Patchouli, who is (probably?) European, has spells that mention the five elements as envisioned by eastern alchemy. But as >>17672682 said, it's not a "system", just some thematic details.

Which catchphrases are canon and which are canon just memes? I know Aya says Ayayaya, but she doesn't say that all the time does she?

This thread is starting to slip from actual good questions into secondary shit.

>>17673101
Isn't one of the main points of the thread to help secondaries become primaries?

>>17672228
Her nature is to be contrarian, not evil

>>17673225
It's a youkai, it being evil is granted

>>17673245
Youkai aren't evil

>>17673289
>t. youkai

>>17670488
>Buddhists, Taoists, Hakurei, Moriya all competing for Faith
>Moriya

Nice try

>>17673225
It could be argued that her true nature is "to irritate through being contrarian". I wouldn't call her EVIL for this, but definitely bad. In a society of evil Seija would be good simply because it would anger the majority, and she'd believe it, but it wouldn't exactly make her "good-natured" I guess.

>>17673026
She says it every once in a while.

Marisa says ze with some frequency.

That's about it. Myon was said by Youmu like once in a very weird conversation, mukyuu was said by Patchouli once period.

>>17675102
>Marisa says ze with some frequency
That isn't a speech tic, though.

Hecatia ends sentences with わよん a decent amount which is pretty out there.

Is there any reason as to why Yukari sleeps more compared to other 2hus?

>>17675099
She's bad from a human perspective
From a Youkai persepective she's doing a wonderful job

>>17675471
>That isn't a speech tic
he didn't ask for speech tics, but catchphrases. Ze is no catchphrase, but you'd be playing ignorant to think it's not a notable thing that she says. The Japanese think so too. It's a weird thing.

>>17675790
Well, my guess is using gaps (what she does 90% of her time) is very tireful and she has to rest a lot.

>>17675790
because i sleep with her anon

>>17675790
She gets tired after taking so many cocks

>>17675790
she just hibernate in winter
for no reason

My EoSD game works just fine in with the default settings, but whenever I try to change the settings, it immediately freezes instead. It's happened on two separate computers, and doesn't have any other symptoms that I've seen.

Is this a known problem, and if so, how do I fix it (preferably besides uninstalling and reinstalling the game)?

>>17680189
might want to ask in the gameplay thread if you haven't already

>>17680189
If you're running EoSD in japanese locale but not custom.exe (or vice-versa) the cfg file will not be what is expected and fail to launch. It will then create a new cfg file that is also potentially garbled. I don't know your setup or what your folder looks like so I can't say.

>>17680547
It doesn't fail to launch, it just stops working whenever I try to exit the menu screen.

>>17680526
I'll post there too.

>>17680568
>menu screen.
Options screen, not menu screen.

>>17675790
Only way to canonically nerf such an OP char :^)
But seriously, she kinda just does. A lot of the OP 2hues have funny quirks to balance them out a bit.

Why the fuck is Mokou's hair white even though it was black when she took the elixir if her body doesn't age/change

>>17617360
Is Reimu gay?

>>17682631
Yes

>>17673156
They're not going to if people keep giving crappy answers.

>>17682618
probabl symbolizes her suffering in the past

I havent been keeping up with touhou since UFO

But recently ive been watching videos of the new touhou fighting game and cannot believe how lewd some of the girls spites are! Byakuren has bouncing cleavage, etc

I remember the days when komachis chest in phantasmorgia of flower view was considered the height of official touhou lewd pictures

Since when did the series get officially lewd like that?

>>17688346
I sometimes happen to see unironical theories where people say that touhou doesn't have females, so I think it's good they emphasized some women's features.

too hoo or to ho

>>17690725
tow how.

Why is vegeta a touhou meme

Why is suwako so lewd?

How does time and aging work in gensokyo?

reading the articles in Symposium of Post-mysticism and the like basically confirms the games take place in the year of their release so that means reimu has been exterminating youkais since 1995

Wouldnt that make her and marisa atleast in their late 30s? why do they still have the appereance of midteen girls?

>>17693314
They take good care of their bodies

Alternatively, magic

>>17693314
Touhou flows in real time, but age is largely irrelevant outside of maybe a sense of aging in general (e.g. compare current Reimu and Marisa to early CoLA). The most exact character reference point we have is Sumireko, and it's yet to be seen whether ZUN will do anything about her age and eventual graduation from school in the coming years.

>>17693314
Honestly ZUN just wants to keep his characters young forever.

>>17693314
The conclusion I draw from that is that the article dates are mistakes. Gensokyo without those dates makes a certain, dream-like sense. Gensokyo with those dates doesn't make sense. But we've got them, and now there's just enough structure to Gensokyo's time that we're going to be discussing exactly how much sense it doesn't make forever.

>>17688346
It's pretty much only that, and people did notice

Ah, then again, in AFiEU there was an out of nowhere and without context series of lewd tengu pictures, panties and all

>>17693314
Touhou flows 1+1 in real time. It hasn't really become a big deal yet since Reimu/Marisa/Sanae are all plausible to be young women throughout the story (Reimu and Marisa are essentially in their mid-20s now). It really hasn't mattered up to this point and ZUN could always asspull some kind of timeslow if he ever wanted to pull back from time flowing 1:1.

The bigger hurdle is going to be when Akyuu hits the end of her natural lifespan. ZUN has been hinting that she is looking for ways to extend her life but that seemed like something that would have been breached in FS had it not ended abruptly. He also has about 10 years before this becomes a very serious issue. >>17694120 is right to bring up Sumireko because her life is in a very odd spot.

>>17688346
when Tasfro produced the games. ZUN's games are still pretty modest.

>>17688346
Tasofro games always have voluptious breasts, sakuya in 7.5, komachi in 10.5, so I dont know what youre talking about.

>>17694235

post Pic please

>>17694318
Not 10 years, Akyuu is more like 23/24 now, she's got only like 6 years of her life left tops. ZUN is going to have to address that issue sooner than we think.

>>17694187
I don't see why would that be a bad thing

Whats the legal drinking age in gensokyo

>>17695900
If you can think, you can drink.

>>17695588
Do you think he thought of this when he made her?

Is sanae the mc of hisoutensoku?
Where can I read about canon material on how kanako made okuu eat the sun god and built the underground nuclear facility?
Which routes in SA have the specific dialogue pointing to kanako since I completed all 6 routes and still am confused as hell about the dialogues in extra stage since I dont think kanako was mentioned in any of the endings.
What is more popular source of getting the games here, moriyashrine or that megatorrent some anon put up?
Which canon material have expanded on celestials other than SWR?

>>17696279
For the backstory of SA, it's in the Extra story notes. The story notes are in the manual and キャラ設定.txt (character setting.txt), usually, but they're only translated on the wiki.
They're easy to overlook, but they can be important as you've discovered.

Which touhous canon have/had kids or had sex

>>17696872
Junko is a canon mother.
Suwako has had "descendants," but it's unknown how they came to be.
The Watatsuki sisters are married, so you can make a wild guess.
Parsee's/Hashihime origin story involves a lover.
Sekibanki once drunk herself asleep at my place, so I pulled her panties down and put the tip in. Just the tip, though.
Tojiko no Iratsume and Mononobe no Futsuhime both have given their husbands children, according to history. Moreover, the same history says Futsuhime would have been Tojiko no Iratsume's mother. They may not, however, be the same people as Tojiko and Futo. If they are, it would also make them related by blood to the Moriya clan.

One of these is false, but the rest is completely true. It'll sharpen your mind to separate the truth from fiction.

>>17696897
The Sexybanki one is true, the rest is miko propaganda.

Who or what the FUCK is Sakuya? She's been at SDM for long enough that she definitely isn't some adolescent girl, and it seems to be overlooked that she can move faster than light by MAKING HERSELF MASSLESS. You'd think that'd raise some flags given how ridiculous of an ability it is.

>>17696950
>given how ridiculous of an ability it is.
In our world it's outrageous because we know it breaks the laws of relativity and as a result the laws of causality too, but in Gensokyo it might be seen as just another ability, albeit a powerful one.

Considering that Rinnosuke has a computer, can he have internet and shitpost in the real world?

Also what are all the tengu doing in that sweatshop?

What do all the male youkai do for a living?

Did Rinnosuke hook them up too?

>>17617360
Are there other functionally equivalent pocket dimensions like Gensokyo elsewhere than near Japan?

If some sages in Norway for instance created a Gensokyo-like land, then giants and dwarves and such could live there.

>>17697006
You'd have to make a physical Internet connection to Japan through the Hakurei Border to shitpost.

I think if Gensokyo even has an intranet, it'd be like North Korea's.

>>17696950
Sakuya is a human, we know this for certain. She is presumably the same age as Reimu and Marisa, or a little older.

Sakuya's bullshitting when she tells Reimu that her timestop is just moving really fast in WaHH or FS (I forget which one it was). She is teasing Reimu and just wants her to go away.

>>17696980 is right. In our world the concept of Sakuya's power is extremely broken but in Gensokyo it's just one of many bizarre and broken powers.

>>17697109
That was one of the first topics in the thread. The answers are "we don't know" and "probably", respectively.

There are non-Japanese youkai in Gensokyo as well, things like SDM and miscellaneous other creatures.

>>17697144
If she can actually stop time then it seems like it would be at odds with some of the more ridiculous reality-bending youkai abilities.

Also I read that Remilia seems to think she's been at SDM for a really long time, and other characters remark that she acts much older than a teenage girl.

>>17697157
There is an old theory about Sakuya being a Lunarian, which had a whole bunch of decent points, but it's been a bit too long since I last read it. Someone else is going to have to fill in.

>>17697144
>Sakuya is a human, we know this for certain.
No we don't.

Is ZUN a pedo?

>>17697232
No, he just likes the antique doll aesthetics of girls in frilly dresses with silly hats.

>>17697232
No, he's an alcoholic.

Is Reimu malnourished?

>>17697157
Maybe she's exactly like DIO where she can only stop time for a limited amount of time (in her frame) so she can't be that overpowered.
>>17697193
Please link this or tell anything you remember.
>>17697232
He's working with a dangerous pedo!

Can anybody else FEEL IT IN THEIR BONES?

>>17697230
Yes we do.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/ZUN%27s_reply_to_messages_on_the_former_Gensou_Bulletin_Board_1

>>17697230
We can be as certain Sakuya is a human as Meiling a youkai.

>>17698588
Yeah I know about that. I still don't believe it. It's not hard to lie or keep secrets or play dumb. Another example of "not saying it but implying it a whole lot" would be the Yukari = Merry thing.

>>17698591
you really can't seeing as there's basically
>statement that she's human

vs
>plethora of information, facts, and implications that she isn't human

I prefer Sakuya as a Lunarian but whatever

>>17696950
>>17698591
>>17697157

>>17697006
>Considering that Rinnosuke has a computer, can he have internet and shitpost in the real world?
You'd need electricity and also last I checked he also doesn't have a clue how you'd even hook it up or turn it on.

Which is kind of funny given he is actually quite a gifted magical tool craftsman/specialist enough to make something like Marisa's Mini-Hakkero and I think there was a passing mention somewhere he's also responsible for Yuuka's parasol.

>>17697144
>Sakuya's bullshitting when she tells Reimu that her timestop is just moving really fast in WaHH or FS (I forget which one it was).
It doesn't contradict anything though if her time stop abilities are simply the equivalent of a extremely powerful speed buff/debuff.

The real problem is all the abilities in Touhou have always been made up of half truths/lies depending on how you interpret them.

>>17699382
More like, a plethora of statements that she is a human and one article theorizing that there is a chance she might not be one.

>>17699835
If you think I even take Akyuu's wild musings into account you're wrong. It's more like how things went in IN (unaffected by the moon's lunacy), how Eirin seems to recognize her, the name Remilia decided to give her, her powers which are extremely unusual for innate human abilities (which thus far have been perception based aside from Reimu, whose abilities are tied with her position as a gatekeeper between worlds), her alleged agelessness, and her frequent mentions of her own "humanity".

By the way, Lunarians are actually humans. They're humans who left for the moon at some point. If Sakuya was indeed one it would explain a lot about her. Not her seeming lack of mortality, however, since impurity would make her normal.

>>17696897
One of the Watatsuki sisters is married to her sister's son. Quote from Eirin in CiLR:

"The two princesses were my distant relatives. To put it in human terms, one was the wife of a grandnephew of mine, while the other was the wife of their son"

Avoiding incest in the lunar capital must be quite hard, Reimu commented on how small and "not busy" it was, just a fraction of the size of Gensokyo.

>>17697109
>>17697145
It's worth noting that Hecatia is impressed by Gensokyo (particularly how its society works), and she's likely been around the block.

>>17700158
The original line is ambiguous enough that it could be read as the Watatsukis' husbands being brothers or cousins or something. However, the mythological Tamayorihime and Toyotamahime had that arrangement, so we can assume that's what Eirin meant.

When it comes to nobility and gods, incest is to be expected.

Do you get a better ending if you beat a game without dying once than if you beat a game without getting game over?

>>17700318
Only in LoLK legacy mode.

I think there's something similar to that idea in TD as well, but it's a bonus ending for certain conditions.

>>17697006
Sumireko's phone doesn't work in Gensokyo so it'd be unlikely that Kourin could contact anyone.

>>17700369
>I think there's something similar to that idea in TD as well, but it's a bonus ending for certain conditions.
Ya, you get something called "Parallel Endings" if you 1cc the game while holding 3 or more bombs (which basically requires you to come into stage 6 with extra bombs and then do a NM run because it resets your bomb counter to 2 and you can't get more) after having already cleared it before.

>>17700158
Are the Watatsuki sisters biological sisters, or did the younger Watatsuki (Yorihime, I guess) inherit the Watatsuki name from her husband (Toyohime's son)?

Why has Touhou never had an official anime?

>>17700466
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyotama-hime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamayori-hime

>>17700154
The same person that says Sakuya is immune to the Moon's effects asks her if she is going insane a few lines later. And then there are two other humans who are fine when they fight Kaguya.

And I don't recall Reisen, Eirin or Kaguya recognizing Sakuya. Eirin treats them both as complete strangers. She even calls them kids, when Sakuya would have to be a thousand years old and older than Remilia to have met Eirin before she left the Moon.

What happens if Reisen with her madness inducing eyes stares into Clownpiece madness inducing flame?

>>17701433

>>17701480

holy fuck

what are some good western touhou fanartists that also draw good uncensored touhou porn?

which touhou fairy is the best loli

>>17699779
Doesn't Yuuka say that her parasol is a one-of-a-kind flower?

>>17701087
I said suggestions not confirmations, my entire point is that her species is dubious and not clear in the least.

>>17700475
Personal reasons for ZUN. He is highly concerned with retaining the full rights and control over any official Touhou works, keeping it "indie". The way the animation industry works, with how much money and how many people are involved, doesn't sit well with him. He could never fund an official anime out of his own pocket, and that means bringing in external financiers who are in it for a return on their investment.

Publishing deals with magazines for the official manga works seems to be as far as he is willing to stretch. He's not only a game programmer, composer, and an amateur artist, he's a decent writer too, with entire novels under his belt. He does all the writing for all the official manga, and stays in constant touch with the artists.

ZUN wanting to remain in control is also one of the stated reasons behind why he won't release his games outside of Japan. He did mention that Steam is a great service which has made it considerably easier to self-publish, but he would still have to rely on others to localize his games. It would also mean him having to devote even more time to publishing, which keeps him occupied a lot of the time already, making it even harder to find time for actually making games.

>>17701480
This is great.

is there an official height chart?

how tall is sakuya

>>17702270
There was an early one
>Tall: Sakuya, Meiling, Yukari
>Fairly Tall: Reimu, Yuyuko, Alice, Letty, Ran
>Fairly Short: Marisa, Youmu, Patchouli, Lunasa, Merlin
>Short: Remilia, Lyrica, Chen, Cirno, Rumia, Flandre

>>17700154
>unaffected by the moon's lunacy
ZUN drew a picture of Sakuya with red eyes shortly after the release of IN to celebrate 3m hits on his blog. When a fan asked about the eyes he told them to go play the game. That is to say she was indeed affected by the moon.

>how Eirin seems to recognize her
Eirin knows Konohana-sakuyahime. This line was simply allusion to the fact that Eirin is the god Omoikane, and was one of the first real hints.

>her frequent mentions of her own "humanity"
She tends to be quite cold towards people and so is questioned because of this; her affirming she's actually human is basically a running gag at this point.

>Lunarians are actually humans
Lunarians are primordial Shinto gods and their descendants. The Lunar Capital is essentially Takamagahara.

>>17700158
See the above. Eirin is Omoikane; Toyohime and Yorihime are Toyotamahime and Tamayorihime, making this connection exact.
>>17700297
I don't think it was ambiguous, but it was previously translated differently, likely only because the phrase is complicated and it wasn't carefully checked.

>>17702270
The tallest is Rinno I think, at 2 m

Is star the most intelligent fairy?

>>17703050
She is rather tricky. The most intelligent is luna.

>>17703078
>the most intelligent is luna

>>17703198

>>17703200

If I become a cute youkai girl, will Reimu kill me?

>>17617360
Which 2hu had the most sex?

>>17617360
Which 2hu has the tightest pussy?
And which has the loosest pussy?

>>17703050
yes, but she's still stupid

>>17702413
>their descendants
that would make them humans, Japanese humans (according to mythology)

Your first point is speculation same as me, your second point is opinion, your third can be interpreted either way (suspicious, notable denial, or just a joke)

So in oriental and sacred place cirno undergoes an acid trip from mushrooms

Are there any other instances of touhous abusing drugs aside from alcohol?

>>17703326
your waifu

>>17704292
Marisa all the time. Shrooms.

Though it's less psychedelics and more poisons.

>>17703721
>Your first point is speculation same as me, your second point is opinion, your third can be interpreted either way (suspicious, notable denial, or just a joke)
You are dense as fuck. Please go read the works, this shit is obvious if you pay attention and are aware of the underlying mythology.

As far as the red eyes thing goes, this is historical. This is an explanation of something that happened in the work freshly after it was released. You can go dig up the information for yourself from forever ago and translate it to realize how dumb you're being, but you won't, because you're only interested in a pet theory and confirmation bias.

>>17700419
You don't lose your bomb stock when you die in TD, so you don't have to no-miss stage 6, just no-bomb it.

Who was the girl of the 8 honest men??

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Dolls_in_Pseudo_Paradise/Story