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random is not cheating

New information please.

Playing with the sound on is cheating

>>17673158
it's over, iidx is cancelled just like beatstream now

is "shop ranking" everyone playing at r1 in the US? or everyone at my r1 only?

>>17673390
the latter

it'll usually say what the shop is in the menu

*cheats*

I cleaned my desk and the cleaning stuff i used made it so the rubber stops on my fp7 don't have any friction dammit

Best PUR

>>17673510
>not just sitting and playing with the controller in your lap
do you even comfy

>still no R1 in louisiana
i need to get out of this shitty state

I went to that bong arcade and it was okay. Popnmusic has no headphone jack so you can't hear anything when the arcade is busy, and asians took over SDVX and Groove Coaster in the afternoon

What's more important, talent or practice?

>>17673783
Practice

>>17673783
Short term, talent. Long term practice. There is nothing else to be said.

>>17673783
Practice. While being talented reduces the time to git gud, practice is always required for it.

>>17673594
i prefer to not play like shit at the arcade

>>17673594
Having an 8 pound controller on your lab is the opposite of confortable. It works for a KOC but a Dao is a different story.

tfw hearing my fat thighs slap together while playing ddr

>>17673533
How many times did it take you until you pulled my SDVX waifu?

>>17675213
4 5-card pulls back in Thailand. Machines there have paseli options but more credits are required.

A 5 card pull costs like $5.5 or something.

>>17673140
the same way you turn on the random option i turned on multiple keybindings, keybindings aren't cheating

>>17676901
epic loko meme

>>17673874
>>17673877
>>17673881
I don't agree with you. There are teenagers who are better than I will ever be.

>>17673379
finally

>>17677235
because they practiced more you lazy cunt

>>17674623
your legs sound weak

>>17678394
i dont get tired with it on my lap, but also the angle is pretty bad. the controller is way too high my arms are cramped

Daos aren't really that heavy that it'd be a problem, it's mainly just that it'll shake when it's on your lap.

>>17678583
This.

>>17673750
Should try Vega and Arcade Club next.

>>17678833
>Vega

how do i 1048

>>17679312
Break all the bones in your non-TT hand.

To be honest, rhythm games aren't that good.

>>17679832
only reason why people are so dedicated to it is because it's addicting

>>17679832
Is anything?

>>17679832
theyre probably the only type of video game with such a high skill ceiling that doesnt actually require any effort put into other than pure gameplay (fighting games have matchups and movesets, puzzle games have specific combinations, etc.)

>Loud song in guitarfreaks
>Fuck it up
>Entire arcade probably hears it
>mfw

im dying for a sows invite, im hopelessly addicted to sdvx and wanna feed that addiction more

dnmlsbemani@tfwno.gf

Can someone tell me why people hate the UK rhythm game community?

>>17680698
I've never said this more sincerely in my entire life.

Who cares.

>>17680711
Honestly curious, that's all. Never really heard it that often until I came back here and it seemed like a recurring thing.

>>17680721
Flavor of the month shitposting stemming from forum drama and competing servers.

>>17680649
why don't you just use one of bemanigirls open torrents?

>>17679832
>rhythm games aren't that good

Don't be mad because you will always be bad at them.

>>17680727
It's been "flavor of the month" for at least a year now if not more lol

>>17680260
Seconded, it’s the only genre of gaming that has no strategy and is 100% player skill.

>inb4 having to memorize “that” part of a chart

We RPG now
https://p.eagate.573.jp/game/bemani/hinabita/sweetsmileheroes/

>>17673109
Sicne there is no OP paste i will ask, what are some rythm games that are worth playing on PC?

>>17681171
osu

>>17681171
LR2 for iidx sims
ksm for sdvx shits and giggles
stepmania for stepping on arrows

>>17681251
Actually if you are starting now beatoraja is probably a better choice than lr2 as we will eventually move there anyway as it is being developed.

>>17681171
DjMax Trilogy

>>17681591
beatoraja was real bad when I tried it, though
I'd maybe go with raindrop arcade when it comes out, if it comes out

>>17681902
Well take into account that beatoraja isn't nearly done yet, but it has seen a lot of progress lately. If you tried it like early this year well it's way better than back then.

>>17681921
Oh, nice.
Maybe I'll try it again.

>>17681921

what does it do better/differently than lr2? other than randomly crash less, I would hope.

>>17681921
Do you know how to change the key layout? Trying it out but there doesn't seem to be an option for it in the menus

>>17682500
we have the source code

>play poopn music
>pick lv33 song
>it's actually a lv40 song
why is this allowed?

>>17680835
as stupid as it sound the community aspect of sows seems really nice, i kinda wanna get in on all that. unfortunately not too many of my friends are into bemani games as much as me.

how do you set a constant scrollspeed in sdvx?

>>17682761
I think you set your scroll speed, then hold 6 and press start.

>>17682733
>community aspect of sows

>>17682842
hold start press 6 but close enough he probably got the point

>>17682733
>community aspect of sows

Yeah so as we said, use bemanigirls torrents. That forum is a fucking travesty to the rhythm game community.

>>17682733
the sows forum is atrocious desu it used to be cool but it's dead now

>>17680835
where do you find them? website shit i found is down

sdvx killed sows after all the weebs got let in

popn button sounds are nice to listen to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q84F5R6Y1E0

>>17683594
one day i'll blow $400 on putting sanwa buttons in my dao because my buttons don't sound anything like that and feel like absolute shit to hit too

>>17683612
do they make sanwas that big? I've only heard of swapping to samduck buttons.

>>17683679
are dao buttons actually bigger and sanwa wouldn't fit in their slots?

>>17683699
they're supposed to be 100mm

Dao knows by now his pop'n controller is shit. Why won't he do anything about it?

>>17683679
actual popn cabs use sanwas, nothing else does because popn sanwas are so expensive

>>17681140
mei speedup wwwwwww

>>17681140
I mean, even if you can memorise certain parts of a chart, sometimes it's still gated by skill

>>17684012
I don't even play SDVX anymore after I got into IIDX but fuck that pattern

>>17684012
fuck these kinds of patterns

>>17675005
Wearing underSpats can really help with that.

DDR poster from the last thread, can now do 10's handedly,
Afronova on Difficult is still a pain to get through, though.

>>17683327
I don't know about "direct" linking anything here because of "recent" events.

But try emuline dot org. Try searching for something called Bemani Touhou collection. But that's just what someone told me.

>>17683890
because most people don't care they just want to play the game on a full sized controller, the only problem is that it's too fucking expensive for how shit the quality of the buttons are

The FP7 and SVSE5 with daos aren't half as bad. The Pop'n controller is shit in comparison.

Sows was good when sherl0k and crew were in charge. After they stepped down and handed it over to Corin it fell into the garbage.

>>17684462
yeah anyone who disagrees with this either is the problem or isn't paying attention

Why does the SDVX community take themselves so fucking seriously

>tfw you cleared a skill analyzer with less than 5%

>>17684780
They're neoweebs, really embarrassing people.

I started with SDVX and switched over to IIDX

I have seen the light, fuck SDVX players and that shitty ass game

>>17681921
>>17682590
How is your handling of feedback and suggestions for new ideas to implement? There have been a few attempts to replace LR2 over the past decade and they've all fallen apart. Something new has to come about eventually.

I'll gladly run beatoraja through the paces if it will actually help development.

But, yeah, I mean, if this is true
>>17682579
and I can't map my controller to play it, then, you have to fix that much first.

>>17683950
*Speed Star Kanade intensifies*

>>17685649
Well hold on now, some of us hate those goddamn weebs and furries who only play toehue and meme songs just as my as you do. SDVX isn’t the best, but it’s unitonically the most fun to me. Gimmicks? Yeah sure. I love stuff that doesn’t take itself too seriously, edgy GravWar theme aside. But I certainly know I’m not an obnoxious shithead at least.

I find it ironic how III introduced the most gimmicky songs, despite being the “serious” entry to the series.

>>17685745
I just wish it didn't attract the worst degenerates ever imaginable

The decent people that are sdvx players make up like <5% of the people playing, the rest are total greaseballs, neoweebs that are ~ironically~ gay, furries, memers, kids, and the mentally ill

Outside of the obvious flaws, weak song variety, limited options, and low skill up till like <10 songs, it's just not as interesting to me.

I wish it was more fun for me, but it doesn't feel rewarding or exciting to play relative to the other "main" games

>>17685769
To each their own, that’s fine. I can’t get into IIDX all that well. With a select few songs, sure. But not as a whole. I have a better time with Popn than that. It’s just not for everyone I suppose.

>>17685769
You're saying this as if IIDX doesn't have the same kind of people.
Probably a decent amount less since IIDX is an oldfag game, but both games attract pretty shitty people in general.

>>17685837
Yeah, my gripes are just nitpicky bullshit overall and you're right, it's just to each their own.

>>17685879
Like you said, a decent amount less

It sucks all the same, why can't any hobby just have normal people

>>17685931
>why are normal people shit
get it now?

>>17685934
Life sucks.

I think it’s because the weebs, furries, and autistic are deprived of attention, and rhythm games certainly do rake in a fair amount of attention from normies.

They might not consciously think it, but it seems to be a reasonable case.

>>17685730
Knowing where to change your hispeed counts as strategy I guess.

If you don't do that in speedstar kanade, you WILL get rekt.

>>17686032
Even if you could count that as strategy, that isn’t even .01% of the gameplay involved. So it’s not really worth counting.

I’m gonna be at the R1 in Stonecrest if anyone wants to catch me. I’ll be playing Popn and tryna pull my waifu PUR since sdvx is half off right now.

>>17684454

its because theres nothing special to a popn controller so theres no incentive for him to rework it when people who want a 100% accurate experience with sanwas arent going to buy his controller anyway theyre going to order it and build it themselves

I want to play rhythm games but I like neither EDM nor trashcan anime jpop. Are there any options for me?

>>17686186
Guitar Hero

>>17686186
PopnMusic has a lot of avant-garde type music, IIDX has a lot of funk, disco, pretty much any genre of music. Gitadora would probably be your best bet honestly.

If you wanna try mobile games, Deemo. 10/10 experience.

But edm in the arcade scene is pretty much unavoidable.

>>17686186

drummania. it's also a great game. there is anime stuff in it though but you can avoid it. don't cripple yourself by starting out with autobass though.

>>17686186
Nostalgia and the latest Reflec Beat cover less gay music genres but they aren't playable in the hamburger states

Is museca dead

How do I find a gay furry bf who plays rhythm games

>>17686287
Just about everyone that plays rhythm games is a gay furry my guy.

>>17685769
t. reddit spacing

>>17686297
Says you

>>17686287

>>>/lgbt/

shoo shoo back to your containment board with you

>>17686304
Who are you quoting?

>>17686287
Post on sows.

>>17682579
I think it's 6 or one of the other top row number keys that brings up the key binding menu.

How do I make my fp7 turntable grippier? I'm trying to scratch with my pinky but sometimes my finger just slides across the tt

>>17686909
get skateboard grip tape, apply to TT after removing original rubber, sand down said grip tape so it's not a goddamn wood rasp, tada

>>17686761
Yeah, thanks, that works.
>>17682500
it seems to have judge override, which is actually one of the things that I really wanted to have in LR2.
Other than that, it's in development, and it seems to work on my machine even with english locale (thought the charts were extracted on jap locale, so I dunno).
After playing a bit, it seems like a pretty good foundation. The basic gameplay works, and I didn't encounter a single crash. Didn't notice any lag either, but then I don't think I'm super good at noticing it.
On the flipside, it's nowhere near as polished as LR2 is, and it's frankly... really ugly. The basic skin looks like the epitome of programmer art, and the backgrounds pretty much hurt my eyes. Sorting options wouldn't hurt either.

But I think it's pretty good that the worst issue that I found was "there was no good skin". Even at this point, I'm thinking of switching to beatoraja from LR2. I'll definitely be checking that project out.

>>17687326
I haven't downloaded it, but assuming beatoraja uses a songs folder that you can't choose you can always replace it with an NTFS symbolic link to your LR2 songs folder, which will effectively duplicate it inside the installation.

>>17687404
It uses song folders like LR2, so you can just link them to where you have your songs, no need for magic

>>17687467
Ahh, I thought by that last sentence you implied something like "I'm thinking of switching to beatoraja from LR2 (but I don't want to go through the hassle of moving song folders and settings yet)"

>>17686287
heyyy

>>17686287

i was told the release date of sdvx5

there is going to be a bemani livestream thing in a few hours where there is supposedly going to be news about popn, is anyone going to watch it? do you think there will be iidx25 news?

>>17686287

Walk up to any popn cab

>>17689328
...then put in a credit and select battle mode.

>>17689350

>tfw no one to play battle mode with

>>17686256
oh and nj have reflec
but yeah it will be a while before any us loc gets nostalgia, depending on how well it ends up doing

>>17686909
cry because dao empress stickers are almost the same as ac spec

>>17686909

Does your turntable have the emp like pic related?
It should be grippy enough

how do i make my iidx avatar cute

>>17689866
Play Step Up mode for a few options, spend money for many more options.

I should probably stop complaining about 7s and 8s that are actually 9s now that I'm playing 9s and 10s, huh

>>17689979
hi cara

and no you shouldn't

becoming a "good enough" player who dismisses newer players struggles is trash

think about how you felt when that happened to you before

>>17688776
Bemanistyle usually live-tweets translations of key announcements.

>>17689979
You should probably stop caring about the arbitrary numeric difficulty rankings given to songs outright. If you can't AAA a chart, work on it, and if you can AAA every chart, you already know which ones are more difficult than others.

on paranoia revolution 19 after the slowdown, do people actually do the spins

>>17690840
No, you start in a crossover and end in a crossover.

>>17690936
oh that makes a lot more sense

>>17691175
The whole chart starts to make a lot more sense when you look at it with a bunch of crossovers and afronova walks in mind.

Why does this song makes me think of America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npMMn0zr-8g

how do you turn on the option in DM that shows a graph on song select of which pad makes up the majority of the chart? red arrows in pic related are what i'm referring to

>>17691334
press 0 or 00 on numpad

>>17690243
don't call me out like this

and I don't intend to dismiss newer players' struggles, like I can still acknowledge that "yea that's a stupid hard 7 I'm sorry"

I just mean I should stop personally bitching so much when I play misrated charts that I should be able to play regardless

>>17690543
>AAA

h-haha, yeah, I totally get those, woo

>>17691707

You should personally stop bitching period
That's literally all you do

>>17691820
I have nothing but thinking emojis for this post

the only way you could think that is if you blocked me 7 months ago and haven't seen a single post since

>>17691914

It was more like a month ago but yes
I mean just look, your style of bitching is so apparent you got called out on an anonymous thread
I just like seeing my friends (both girls and guys) simply posting positively about their achievements or scores in various bemani games

>>17692068
>called out

that was a joke, I'm 99% sure it was my friend replying to me

like if you actually blocked me I guess I can't change your mind but I just counted and out of my last 20 bemanifacebook posts only 1 of them was even jokingly complaining

so.... sorry for your loss I guess? idk what to say

man KSM has given me some bad habits, some of the 14s i can pass on there i struggle with on the actual game, i have a lot of gitting gud to do

>>17692298
SDVX gets "hard" at 14s, don't worry

>>17692298
SDVX is kind of a pain in the ass to read compared to KSM. There's so little contrast between the lane and the notes (in Gravity Wars, at least).

>>17692302
ED2 will surely solve

>>17692298
ED2 will surely solve

>>17691707
Well being able to 4-life a song consistently is probably is a good standard for having learned learned it.

>>17692434
we were talking about IIDX anon

LIFE4 in IIDX would be a little terrifying

>>17692302
Yeah most of the difficulties of sdvx up to 13-14 is just being unfamiliar with reading the game and the control layout.

i got a UR card from the sdvx generator
how do these things work

>>17692104
yeah that was not a callout

i mean it was but like a v joking one ur alright

>>17693199
Press both FX buttons at the appeal card selection screen to set the character as a subcrew member.
They do nothing in SDVX IV though.

>>17693202
yeah i got that i just apparently needed to clarify it to that one asshole

ty

What are the easiest 17s and 18s to pass in ddr?
only 17s ive passed are possession, anti-matter, and elemental creation

>Monokuma doesn't scream "Za Monokuma Fairu" when giving the files anymore

Bummer. It was my favorite line. Wish the new VA would have his version of it.

>>17693482
Those three on both Expert and Challenge, plus Mei for 18s.

>>17693847
Wrong thread.

>>17691334

What's going on in this picture? What version of DM is that and how have you gotten it to save your scores?

>>17693995
It's Matixx, you save scores with an eamusement card.

>>17693995

I grabbed it from a YouTube video to illustrate what I was talking about, it's not data. I don't think a server exists to save scores in regards to that

Should I get a dao with the current sale?

>>17694164
>>17694106

Alright, thanks. I was afraid I was missing out on some new DM data that hit sows recently.

Does anyone know how to turn off rival objects in Volzza 2?
There are 4 pages of options and remywiki said they added the option to turn them off but i can't figure out which option it is or how to do it

>>17684462
what happened to them anyway

>>17694106
It's actually Triboost Re:evolve. Matixx uses a different font.

what's the newest iidx game to play at home on pc. copula?

>>17694887
beatmania IIDX INFINITAS.

How in the fuck is Denjin Akatsukini SF mix [a] rated a 9? It puts fucking 10s to shame.

>>17695050
If you can do that then you're ready for more than half of 10s.

>>17694887
beatmania IIDX INFINITAS (Sirius CS)

where do you even get sanwa popn buttons?

>>17695710
Directly from Sanwa's Rakuten shop.
https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/sanwadenshi/item/ilumb_136/

I hope you're rich, that price is per button.

>>17694745
Oh right, I saw the new FI song and assumed it was Matixx but I think that actually happened right before the update.

>>17694901
>>17695663

and it's a good time to start because they're releasing the lincle songpack soon

what's lincle supposed to mean, anyways? "little uncle"? a nickname for abraham lincoln?

>>17696155
Link. Circle.

>>17696167
that's fucking stupid

>>17696180
The whole gimmick of Lincle was linking with Jubeat/Reflec so they could have enough songs for a new style without actually putting any effort into it while they got Tricoro ready.

>>17696167
Tye DJMax respect DLC is better than I expected. I'm glad they made the charts harder overall and I hope they keep that level or make it even harder for the Black Square songs, but now the game feels uneven.

Most of the base songs of a respective level are way easier than the DLC's

>>17696067
wait, the songpack costs $50??

The DJMax respect DLC is better than I expected. I'm glad they made the charts harder overall and I hope they keep that level or make it even harder for the Black Square songs, but now the game feels uneven.

Most of the base songs of a respective level are way easier than the DLC's

>>17696155
It's linked circles you fucking mongoloid. How does anyone not get this from looking at the intro for 2 seconds is completely beyond me.

>but duuuuuuuuurp lincle isn't a word in the dictionary????!?!?
neither is "beatmania"

If i use a controller in Infinitas will i get rekt by people who use keyboard?

>>17696811

there's plenty of songs that come with the game and dont require purchase plus more to unlock through playing, but yeah it's $50. that's how much it would've cost to buy a new copy of a CS game though

>>17697158

the majority use controller although there are keyboard players

>>17697158
Scratch charts are a bitch with keyboard.

t. keyboard chuuden

I got to the last song of 6dan in iidx with 80% gauge but I failed really fast 1/4 of the way in

>>17697273
Never give up.

I passed 8dan with 2% life. I started the final song with 14% life left.

>>17697158
it doesn't matter since infinitas is an irrelevant game lul

>>17697273

welcome to hell

https://youtu.be/B6m2l9WXdHc

>>17697273
Was it the part with the quick 2-note chords on 8ths?

Yeah, that took me down to like 2% when I finally passed it.

>>17697158
All of the high scores on the non-scratch 12s are dominated by corean BMS players using keyboards. Take that how you will.

>>17697176
>that's how much it would've cost to buy a new copy of a CS game though
CS games don't require a monthly subscription on top.

>>17697420
Yeah, bloomin feeling

>>17694706
They got too old and fed up with everyone's shit

Dead license for a dead game, how fitting.

>>17693482
>18s
This on ESP

>>17697273
copula or sinobuz? if you can get past the 1st song on copula, you might as well just go for 7th

>>17698156
>zektbach apocalypse is harder than the safari

what the fuck? The trick to apocalypse is that the notes are spaced constantly apart so that the 3 note runs actually run faster than the 4-note runs. There's no triplets in it and it's all repeating arpeggios if you play the non-ran.

There is literally no way you have more trouble with that than with the tetetetete-te- rhythm

>>17698169
I didn't say "you can probably pass 7th now" just that you might as well work towards it

I only say that because everything in copula 6dan feels like a gimmick including those dumb arpeggios

and if you can figure out the safari somehow 7th is just universally a better course

>>17698191
actually yeah you're right i just went through a video in slow motion, this is what it sounds like approximately, they're all spaced apart equally but it's difficult to get right because the start of each arpeggio is never on the start of a beat

http://picosong.com/wwThM/

>>17698322
>http://picosong.com/wwThM/

that's really cool! how'd you do that?

but yeah, personally I can't make any sense of the chart at all lol

>>17698191
>and if you can figure out the safari somehow 7th is just universally a better course
That's still a pretty big "if," I didn't pass 7th until after 9th.

>>17698437

Damn, I normal cleared the safari before i could pass 8th dan

>>17698449
I actually did too, but that was on random. Nonran Safari is honestly an 11, mirror is better but still not fun so I ended up just doing 8th instead and then once I got 9th I went back to do 7th. I still almost failed.

>>17698464
So uhh does this mean I can possibly pass 7th with random on

>>17698464
is this martin lol

>>17698470
you can't use random on dan courses

>>17698475
damn, time to become a refugee then

time to begin training for 8th

>>17698477

Dan ranks are a meme anyways
don't worry too much about them

>>17698477
>>17698464
I don't get you guys

I can't pass either at the moment but gigadelic looks WAY harder than the safari

>>17698481

The thing about gigadelic is that the first ~80% of the song is easy enough to build up plenty of gauge to try and pass the end.
With the safari, there's significantly less time to do that before those strings of hard chords start

>>17698475
No idea who the fuck Martin is.

>>17698481
The Safari is consistently bullshit from start to finish but the real difficulty is people get mindblocked on it. Gigadelic is only hard at the very end and if you go in with 100% you can mash it and just barely survive.
I've now EXHCd gigadelic (both of them) and still can't do that on The Safari.

>>17698486
>>17698487
wait what the fuck is this some elaborate konami meme, they give you a fucking 12 at the end of 8th dan but just from watching youtube videos it's the most overrated 12 possible, it's basically a hard 9/early 10 with bullshit 12 at the very end

>>17698486
>>17698487
I dunno... I just feel like with safari it's just a matter of looking at the chart and practicing/memorizing that one obtuse pattern and then you've got it

gigadelic actually requires you to somehow have the technique to play the end and I just don't see myself doing that for several more years

>>17698500

Welcome to IIDX
lots of charts have all the bullshit at the end so you fail and spend money on another credit because you think you're close to passing it

>>17698506
that's why Hard gauge is the only real IIDX

dead end groove radar special is such an ugly chart

>mfw I beat 7th AND 8th Dan

Heh. Nothong perosonnel boys.

Opinions of Osu! Droid: Evolution?

>>17699724
>tfw skipped 8dan for 9dan

Fuck doing gigadelic on 2P

Can anyone tell me if the DAO pop'n controller is worth it,is there a better built controller?Should I just build my own and use sanwas? I want the arcade feel.

>>17700807
just build your own pop'n is literally the easiest one to build because the surface is entirely flat and there's no encoders involved

>>17700302
But mirror exists?

>tfw you JUST got your NESICA card registered after trying for a week.


I hate myself for being an idiot.

At least I got to play Groove Coaster3EX for 3 hours straight

>>17701132
Round 1 has a tutorial card thing for Nesica behind the counter.

>>17701134
they didn't give it to me.

>>17701132
I also assume once the events go away, the songs go away?

How well does skill from KSM translate to SDVX? I've read that it's harder to read stuff in SDVX.

>>17700166
asking about anything osu around here is a bad idea

but its alright, the best mobile port imo,
still has shitty lag iirc

>>17701168
Fairly well. Timing windows are smaller and you gain less health from lasers/holds so normal clears will be much harder, but getting a 950 in KSM usually means a pass in SDVX.
Also yes, reading is ass.

>>17701216
Alright. How about song offset? I can't seem to be able to play KSM properly without a -10 global offset. Does SDVX handle it better or do you have to change it manually as well?

>>17701168
The timing windows on KSM are absolute ass in comparison to SDVX. Good luck getting perfects on KSM.

However, SDVX has a tougher gauge and actual knob play. So certain songs will be either harder or easier.

>>17701286
>The timing windows on KSM are absolute ass in comparison to SDVX. Good luck getting perfects on KSM.
>>17701216
>Timing windows are smaller

>>17701265
Saying that SDVX handles offset is giving it too much credit. It's just visual offset like IIDX but you only have 8 settings in either direction.
-10 offset is good, so you'll probably be fine if you're going to play on on cab, but if your home setup has any audio lag you're fucked. You don't have to change it afterwards though.

I'm playing iidx data and the note beams are horribly delayed and it feels like shit. Is my monitor to blame?

Reminder that the UK is the worst Bemani community

>>17701600
But what is the best Bemani community ?
Japan? US? Korea? France? Poland?

>>17701600
It's true seeing as both Bemanigirl and Namwen come from the uk

>>17701659
None of them.

>>17701666
Then tell us what is the absolute best

>>17701070
Forgot about it. Then again I cleared 9dan on my first try anyways so what the hell.

>>17701392

what kind of monitor and how do you have it linked? what does it settle at usually at the end of "monitor checking" and how much flucuation is there? ie: 60.0020 - 60.0040 . also what controller are you using and how do you have it connected?

Is reflec better on a tablet or a touch monitor with AC data?

>>17701681
northern california probably

-lots of collectors, cabinets, arcades all over
-people are generally nice, minimal amount of shitty people

>>17701660
>Namwen

he's a cute boy don't bully

>Dao making his feveever controller ripoff

I wasn't aware Respect was such a huge deal with everyone making something for it.

>>17701706
TFT Lcd with dvi connection
59.8140 - 8141
koc with blue triangle

>>17701681
Texas community is best

>>17702135
When I went to Texas to participate in a music game tournament, the chad of the community made fun of my DDR picks then stormed off and didn't shake my extended hand when I destroyed him in IIDX immediately after.

Everyone else was nice, though.

I thought pop'n had good music and gameplay, but apparently people only played it because it didn't look like anime.

>>17701981

yup, i knew even before you replied you must be using KOC and adapter. because if it was a monitor issue, it wouldn't feel like the keybeams were late, it would just feel like your timing was off and you could adjust it with offset. if you want to look into it, wiring your KOC to parallel might help, however, i've never done this and so i can't say for sure, i dont know if you'll run into driver issues, and i don't know if the config program will recognize the inputs through parallel. but its just going to be like that because thats the nature of using a PS2 adapter, and buying a different adapter isn't really going to help either. on the positive side if you monitor really only drifts by .0001 then thats fucking awesome.

http://www.raphnet.net/electronique/psx_adaptor/psx_adaptor_en.php
http://aldostools.org/dpad.html

>>17702528
I was just confused because the beams dont lag like that on lr2, and to me +20 ms offset feels just like 0.0 on the local r1 cab with the konami lcd

i guess they just work completely differently?

>>17700915
>>17700807
What Voltage Sanwa button's should I order for the pop'n controller? Should I get the ones with the built in switches?

>>17702574

yes but i dont know enough to say exactly what the difference is maybe someone else will

i played footy dance game at the arcade for the first time and my fucking shoulders ache from holding onto the bar
is this normal or am i doing something wrong

>>17702722

No, buy the old style ones with the lamp holder. Voltage shouldn't matter since you'll be using Omrons anyways and you can use the same LED lamps you can use in IIDX buttons. The 12V is only for that little incandescent bulb that Proper Pop'n cabs use.

>>17702932
Do I order these? https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/sanwadenshi/item/ilumb_135/

Are there any bad habits LR2 might give me for IIDX?

>>17702968

Rakuten is a gyp when it comes to Sanwa Pop'n.

I've been eyeing this store, though I've never used it.
https://www.akishop.jp/buttons/322-obsa-100umq.html#

Okay, so I guess the prices aren't all that different. Either way, that's the one you want.

>>17703195
Thank you! I'm going to get those instead, because they are a little cheaper and come with a different switch. So is that the switch I need?

>>17701873
>cute
Sorry senpai i ain't into BBM.

>>17702873
>dance game
>first time
>holding onto the bar
>am i doing something wrong
Yes. At least learn how to play the game normally first.

>>17703094
Timing

How does one score good on tohoku evolved expert when the chart is just god awful

laughed hard
https://twitter.com/gamotwo/status/913761293072347137

>>17703205

Care to buy me a set while you're at it? Since you seem unfazed about dropping 300 bucks on a set of buttons. I've been wanting a set for over a year now.

>>17704202
I actually don't have enough to buy you a set, This is my first bemani controller and I want the best. There is no pop'n music any where near me.

Are samduck pop'n buttons the same quality as or at least close to sanwa? I'd blow my load on the latter if I could somehow confirm that I can replace the dao buttons 1:1 with those.

>>17704425
Don't know how they would compare to sanwa but according to this video they're way better than dao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7G8P-sGXY

>>17704276
I feel like blowing 300 bucks on a game you've never played before is a bit risky

how do i get good accuracy

seems like a lot of people who play rhythm games are furries

is it cheating to use gloves for pop'n? my hands sweat as i play and stairs become progressively harder to do

>>17704917
>sweat
For some reason that doesn't affect me in pop'n while it makes me mad while playing IIDX.

t. breaking into 48s / 9dan IIDX

Wich is best : Virgoo's fever or Dao's ezmax ?

>>17705154
Dao because 9 keys

>>17705154
Neither cause they're both chink handiwork. But it would nice to have the Dao for Pop'n.

so for keys 4, 5, 6, and 7 i use my thumb, index, middle, ring finger

is this right

>>17705154
fever lets you play ez2
ezmax lets you play popn

>>17705520
>4 thumb
>5 index
What.

>>17705531
oops switch those around

>>17701981

>playing popn
>tiny little cramped buttons

>>17704825
I have over $400 in parts ordered just for the controller. I bought a minicon and it's not even fun because its flat and I can't really enjoy that. It's a game I would enjoy.

What is the best way for me to play ddr/stepmania at home?
Mainly what kind of pad/controller should I buy, what are my options

>>17707123
wait for impulse platforms is what everyone is saying

>>17706534

Are you building one or popping Sanwas into a Dao?

>>17707218
I'm building, I want it to look just like the newest cabinet. I might build the rest of the cabinet next month.

>>17707235

Nice. But that's too bad because I was going to ask you to tell me if they were appreciably different from chinesium Pop'n Buttons.

I know the hard way that Sanwas aren't really worth it for IIDX/SDVX.

>>17707676
dao pop'n buttons are so bad that anything would be an improvement
also i played sdvx with chinesium buttons before and they were hard and loud as fuck

Just got sdvx ac data and I can't get the audio synced. When I play with the music I hit everything late. I've spent a bunch of time messing with audio drivers and monitors and can't fix it. Any ideas?

>>17708847
Complain to Konami.

>>17708847
Get a bemanipc

I am trying out the Taiko no Tatsujin games on the DS. Does Meccha not auto-save like the first game? I played a shitload yesterday and today my save file was gone.

>not a single SDVX machine in the whole country
>trying to get SDVX III to work on PC
>not even the simplest of machine english translations
>crappy audio delay
>shitty paseli payment system requires me to use bitcash to continue playing
What is up with Konami trying their best to make this as gaijin unfriendly as possible? Jeez, guess I'll have to stick with KSM.

Being born a europoor and a rhythm game fan is suffering.

>>17707676
>>17708399
Well I also hear a difference in sound, and I LOVE the sound of the arcade buttons/switches. That's another reason I'm building a controller. I see people say they feel different too.

>>17708847
ask konami, maybe they know how to fix it

/jp/ is not pirated tech support

>>17709601
A bunch of Rhythm games are unfriendly unless you're Japanese or live near an Arcade. This is nothing new.

>>17709601
AC SDVX isn't really worth the hassle anyway, if it makes you feel any better.

>>17709601

dude if you're already know how to buy and redeem bitcash for paseli and get the konami official pc games setup just play infinitas because they don't charge you per ticket like the SDVX system it's a monthly charge instead. the SDVC PC ticket system is beyond retarded.

>>17710311
I've only been playing a month, and I'm already decent at it. No going back to IIDX for me, I'll stick with whatever shit will allow me to continue with SDVX. But Konami can definitely go fuck themselves with these systems, I'm not paying those bitches anything.

>>17705154
Really liking the look of the ezmax.

>>17709601
>not even the simplest of machine english translations

what could you possibly need a translation for?

>>17710430
two eyes and a huge mouth inbetween

Do sub-crews do anything in Heavenly Haven? Where tf did these 2hus come from?

>get invite to sows
>have to download a bunch of shit i don't want only to upload to to nobody who's going to download it just to be able to download the shit i want

you know what but why?

>>17711479
>have to download a bunch of shit i don't want only to upload to nobody
you know those guys who are power users didnt just get it handed to them right

>>17711479
Upload torrents you dumbass

>>17711479
Save the world

>>17710898
Nothing yet. 2hus probably come from stamp collecting events.

My right hand is super duper sore after playing a few hours of Popn. Am I doing something wrong with my form, or is it something that I’ll just have to get used to.?

>>17711479
you don't even have to do that, just use dellar

>>17711767
its probably fine

soreness or just feeling weak is good, pain is bad

>>17711994
I’ve played SDVX for literally 10 hours before (free play of course) and didn’t feel a thing.

So I’m a little concerned I might be goofing, and I don’t want it to become a bad habit later.

>>17712223
nah, youre probably fine, specially for popn. it reqyires a lot of forces and spreading your fingers and arm movement. i got pretty bad pain the first 1 or 2 times i played but im fine

>>17710430
Same, I prefer the look of the ezmax but the fever seems better because of ez2

What's the best length for a 2DX session?

>>17712679
I can feel my scores slip after 2-3 hours.

What are the /jp/ essentials for rhythm games?

>>17712873
iidx, ddr, pop'n

>>17712873
IIDX, DDR, Pop'n are essentials
Everything else is optional

>>17712961
>>17712966
I never understood why people have such a massive boner for pop'n around here. Aside from the soundtrack, which is amazing, the game's "gimmick" is pretty dull and makes me wish I was using something like a keyboard instead. Even lesser-known arcade rhythm games have more interesting gimmicks than that.

>>17713063
personally I just love slapping big, colorful buttons

people who have made it past the mid 11s into high end 11s and early 12s, what helped make you able to tackle those harder charts? i can see myself improving on the stuff i can already clear, but i have stopped making progress into new things. for exposure, i've started to play hard 11s and early 12s and just flatline them the whole way through, but it doesn't feel as though i'm getting any closer to clearing them. i have managed to clear gigadelic, innocent walls, special campaign, and 千年ノ理 the touhou song but thats it.

>>17711479
i mean it's really fuckin easy you might be dumb

and if you aren't interested in downloading bemani osts or bemani artist albums you might just have bad taste

>>17712223
popn is pretty hard on your hands. you should be ok. i get a bit of soreness from playing too much iidx and a lot from playing ddr but if it goes away when you rest you're prob fine

>>17713063
thats the point you fuck it doesn't need to have a gimmick it's just good

desu its the purest form of hitting buttons to music next to bm/iidx

>>17713100
maybe try playing bms for density training

>>17713080
I can see where you're coming from. There really is something satisfying about it.

>>17713334
>thats the point you fuck it doesn't need to have a gimmick it's just good
And what exactly puts it above the rest then? It's pretty arrogant to claim that it belongs to some kind of "big three" of rhythm games and not say what exactly makes it so special.

>desu its the purest form of hitting buttons to music next to bm/iidx
I won't even bother to expect an explanation on what exactly the concept of "pure" rhythm gaming is. Sounds like nonsense.

>>17713360
the primary reason i enjoy playing rhythm games is a visceral satisfaction with hitting buttons in time with music, what about you

also pop'n has really good scoring/timing systems compared to a lot of games so it's got that as a positive

great originals, great aesthetic. etc

>>17713389
>the primary reason i enjoy playing rhythm games is a visceral satisfaction with hitting buttons in time with music, what about you
Same exact reason. But the size of the buttons or how flashy they look aren't decisive factors in how good the game is for me.

>also pop'n has really good scoring/timing systems compared to a lot of games
That's news to me. It has a fixed max score right? Many other games use that. I also don't believe timing is better than in other Bemani games.

>great originals, great aesthetic. etc
For originals, I prefer IIDX. For aesthetics, I prefer SDVX. I don't dislike pop'n, but I still fail to see why it's being put on such a high pedestal around here.

>>17713360
i kinda just put them above the rest because of the focus on timing, theyve got the tightest focus on timing windows so re the most about "rhythm" than the other rhythm games

games like sdvx and jubeat and chunithm (and even osu) and most other music games are often more about learnin to do or memorizing different complex movements than timing them with the music.

>>17713423
not to say i dont enjoy other games, its just that thats probably why people put them above the rest. i barely play any popn

Whats the highest level chart you've pfc'd in DDR?
Level 13 here.

>>17713559
i have 2g on two 15s but my highest pfc is on a 12 lmao im inconsistent as hell i always choke

>>17713586
Which 15s?

>>17713080
Chord heavy charts in pop'n are just so satisfying to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjlqMSJMMB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaA2OqPXhGI

>>17713590
zephyranthes and romancing layer. i also have like 8g fc on possession live esp and 9g 1m on possession esp

>>17713559
Got one 13, flagged a couple 14s, and 5g on a 15. I can clear 19s though, my timing is just shit.

>>17713422
>I also don't believe timing is better than in other Bemani games.
GFDM has combo-based scoring. jubeat and SDVX have timing windows so loose that anything less than max score is worthless. Even DDR has the Perfect vs not Perfect issue with money score, where Marvelous basically functions only as a tie breaker. DDR EX score is still good, though.

As it turns out, there are people that like the idea of playing precisely over playing fast or mashing for FCs. IIDX and pop'n scoring systems focus heavily on that.

IIDX is a good finger buttons game.
pop'n is a good hand buttons game.
DDR is a foot buttons game. It would be better if it had less memotrash.

>>17714046
I see, good points. But do these things really matter too much for end-game difficulties, though? It's not like you'd be able to FC either way, and accuracy becomes more trivial as charts get more difficult, even in games like pop'n where accuracy matters a lot.

>>17714046
>Even DDR has the Perfect vs not Perfect issue with money score, where Marvelous basically functions only as a tie breaker. DDR EX score is still good, though.
I don't really see the problem with this. Money score is meaningful when trying to improve your timing to just get PFCs, and you can switch to caring about EX score once you want to focus on MA.

>>17714076
>It's not like you'd be able to FC either way
Everything in pop'n music and SP IIDX has been FC'd. I think nearly everything outside of DP IIDX and GuitarFreaks (lol) has been FC'd.

>accuracy becomes more trivial as charts get more difficult
What.

>>17714086
The problem is that money score is used for rankings and rivals in-game, despite EX being used for tournaments.

>>17714113
The target audience of DDR is people who aren't going to be getting Marvelouses, so it makes sense to use money score to motivate them to keep playing. People good enough to care about EX score are a tiny fraction of the playerbase.

>>17714113
>>accuracy becomes more trivial as charts get more difficult
What I meant by that is, if you have two people competing on something that's well within their comfort zone, accuracy matters a lot more than if they're playing something that's difficult for both of them.

Basically "hitting at all > hitting accurately" becomes more apparent on stuff that's difficult. Which is why I don't see the simplified approach that SDVX took as a bad thing, as long as the charts continue to be challenging.

>>17714113
even like, quell dpa has been fced with crazy anmitsu techniques and like a B grade

>>17713389
> pop'n HAD really good scoring/timing systems compared to a lot of games
Fixed. 4/7/10 good/great/cool scoring is fucking retarded because it weights a good+great higher than a cool+miss. 3/6/10 or 3/7/10 would have at least made some sense.

>>17714299
what are some instances where a person getting a bunch of good+greats ends up scoring higher than a person getting a bunch of cool+misses and why does it matter when non-shitty people all aim for the highest accuracy possible to begin with

>>17685654
Config is just hidden behind numberkeys
Press 6 in songselect to setup

>>17702147
I wasn't at the big D but that sounds like kirby and yeah he's a faggot

For those 78% moments

reminder that no shitty bemani game will ever have anything as hard as the GH1 red snake
https://youtu.be/HZJueXurzww

>>17715253

If only angry guy just bought one of these

>>17716995
GH3 actually had several challenging songs, but every game after that kept getting easier and easier.

What happened?

>>17718042
The oversaturation of the market meant they had to make games easier to try and draw casuals end. It's why rhythm games were such a fleeting fad in the west; they made a few good ones like GH and DJH, but they made so fucking many of them in such a short time that the market died before it really got a proper foothold.
Just think, we might have proper Bemani localizations by now with home console releases and everything if they had let the market grow properly.

>>17718084
Konami certainly would have a reason to keep pumping CS if the US had a market. Way cheaper than putting expensive cabs all over the place

Fucking Harmonix.

>>17718177
*fucking Activision

>>17718177
Like >>17718446 said, I wouldn't blame Harmonix. I think DJ Hero is evidence enough that they were at least TRYING to mix things up a bit instead of just rehashing GH about twenty fucking times.

Reminder that idols run this shit.

>>17718473
RB Beatles and a few track packs were as bad as Harmonix got. Other than that, they went on to create Dance Central after having 3 strong entries in the Rock Band series. Meanwhile Activision pumps out:

On Tour
On Tour 2
Aerosmith
Metallica
Van Halen
Rock the 80s
Greatest Hits
Warriors of Rock
And a few I’m probably missing. Activision caused this.

>>17718544
>this shit
You mean card gacha?

>>17716995
goddamn the scroll speed in that gives me autism

>>17713559
16. Haven't done any more since I've transitioned to mostly playing doubles, on which I'm close to PFCing 14s

why do people black out their rivals on tatsujin videos

>>17719191
most people black out their rivals in all rhythm games - it's a courtesy thing to not show people's names unless they specifically let you.

>>17719191
Japan is all about appearances. They don't want others to know that they do out of fear it may be interpreted negatively and damage them. In other words privacy paranoia instilled by how society works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39iLLC-5tvI

maimai looks fun

>>17719695

I've always wondered if each cabinet has a pair of gloves that everyone uses or if everyone just brings their own gloves
I don't know if i'd like wearing gloves that a bunch of other people have worn

>>17719811
Back in Thailand arcades do have spare pairs of gloves thanks to how popular that game is.

Nothing wrong with bringing your own.

>>17719811
In Japan, people basically have their own. Some arcades actually sell them, but there're no 'shared-use' gloves that I've ever seen.

>>17715082
Good, thank you. The day may come soon when I'll try it.