/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Tomorrows the big day, I guess.

If anyone's getting Blue Reflection for PC, please report on the quality of the port.

>>17680570
I probably won't get it until next week, I'll report how it looks on a 550 Ti.

I want to impregnate Sophie while Plachta watches powerlessly.

>>17680570
It's another Firis.

Dear Customer,

Thank you for your inquiry.

We prepare 2D images basically on the resolution of 1280*720 for BLUE REFLECTION Steam version, meanwhile 1920*1080 for PS4 version.
Therefore, if you play in the environment where the resolution is larger than 1280*720, the images are shown as stretched. We hope you will accept this.
We will consider conforming 2D images to a larger resolution, but cannot promise. We trust that you will understand our position in this matter.

We would like to close our correspondence for your inquiry.

>>17681247
Into the trash it goes!

>>17681247
>We trust that you will understand our position in this matter
"We could easily change it if we could be bothered to"?

>>17680570
>>17681247
Source:
https://koeitecmo.info/support/SupportPage/V7hnI1wLvSShLZj7DnXW0TpRcyTvSKHNsPbaqyMCqEJbET8sh5o7z3z1StNLd59v

I know Koei Tecmo is incompetent most of the time, but this is just....
>We will consider
>We hope you will accept

>>17681247
But why.

>>17681247
Thread on /v/: >>>/v/391398717

>>17681247
Well
If you want them to fix it, let them know
https://koeitecmo.info/inquiry/kta/

>>17681247
Just play it on console. They don't give a shit about pc. Them bringing gust games to pc has done nothing but increase shitposting since then. The only good thing about the ports would be undubs and fixing censorship but neither of these have been needed.

>>17681466
Jesus christ what is going on here.

>>17681696
Not entirely true. Yoru no Nai Kuni's release was perfect. Plus I just like this greater longevity. People already go back and emulate the older games. This makes future emulation unnecessary.

>>17681730
The website security is shit. You can post without having to login, and your post will be shown as the thread starter's post.

Good, let the PC fucks eat their shit

This whole PC vs Console animosity is so retarded.

>>17682106
It's just /v/ leaking and should be ignored and reported.

>>17681742
Non 16:9 resolutions are broken and I have to restart it several times until it stops horrible stuttering that makes it unplayable.

Maybe Sony requires them to do that.

>>17682271
Ah, nevermind then.
Though non-16:9 resolutions are rather niche these days.

Help /jp/, /v/ is being mean to Gust
https://koeitecmo.info/support/SupportPage/V7hnI1wLvSShLZj7DnXW0TpRcyTvSKHNsPbaqyMCqEJbET8sh5o7z3z1StNLd59v

>>17682493
Gust threads should be moved to /vg/.

>>17682493
Let them, it's making my class a lot more fun.

>>17682493
They're bullying KT, not Gust. Let them.

KT deserves to be bullied. Their pc ports are not acceptable.

>>17682493
Well it's kill, here's the archive
http://archive.is/fVTNV

>>17682596
the link still worked for me

>>17682596
No it isn't, it's back again.

>>17682548
Only happens to Gust games

>>17681742
There was the whole thing with it busy waiting on multiple threads too, straining the CPU without a reason for it.

Why is this thread full of /v/ cancer, gust threads weren’t this unbearable since PC port came out

Fuck the /v/. Why they create a shitstorm on official site. I think, it great that they port this game on PC with official english localization.

>>17682749
That was fixed in an update, actually.

>>17682871
All anons who hate gust must go into trash. I like to imaging that I piss on gusthaters.

>>17682878
Eh, I'm on console, I don't care about PCfaggots, I just want to have some fun shitposting.

>>17682882
Yeah, I know. But it's evidence the release wasn't perfect.

>>17682886
>literally admitting to being a shitposter

>>17682909
>being a buzzkill
>not joining the fun
>not wanting to see how big we can make that ticket

>muh /v/ boogieman
The threads went to shit because the games went to shit, nothing more and nothing less. This general should long have been deleted since exa pico is officially dead and no other gust games are fitting /jp/.

>>17682886
>I am on console.
Please, kill yourself.

>>17683171
No way fag, my ESL gives me strength.

>>17683144
this. without exa no pico Gust is nothing and the other low quality games attract low quality discussions

>>17680319
When someone is gonna update the OP?

>>17683458
>without exa no pico Gust is nothing

Not really. Atelier has always been their main series. They're still good too but no, every faggot and their mother must continue to hate on them. I have nothing against AT or exa pico and I feel bad that it's dead and all, but that's no reason to shit on Atelier. I'm mad that they wasted time and money on Yoru but it's not the end of the world. There really is no where to talk about Atelier which is why this thread probably still exists.

>>17683577
Go make a thread in /v/, an appropriate board for discussing videogames.

>>17683577
it really is unfortunate that Atelier always gets shitposted to death nowadays

>>17683603
Well recently that hasn't been a good idea apparently. I've been thinking about making an Atelier general in /vg/ for a some time now but I don't know if I ever will. Either way this is called the Gust thread which means we can talk about any of their games. If it was only ever meant for AT then it should've been named accordingly.

>>17683647
Indeed it is. They're nice relaxing games and really the only slice-of-life kind of RPGs on the market. They're not for everyone but it's still really sad that we have so many shitposters. Just let it die down for a while and don't reply to any of the obvious shitposting /v/ threads.

>>17682493
I held off on the original release because I knew the PC release would also have Japanese text and voice support so I think this is well deserved. I am heartbroken.

>>17683848
Do you think Japanese players will be upset about this as well?

>>17683889
I would imagine that anyone who wanted to play it would've played it already.

>>17683889
Some Japanese Steam users were upset a certain game didn't have Japanese audio so I can imagine they will be.

>>17682535
>KT, not Gust
I'm not so sure about that. Couldn't it be that the ports also be done by Gust directly?

>>17682493
>We trust that you will understand our position in this matter.
Why would anyone understand them if they give no explanation whatsoever?
Why do companies so often think that announcements like that will not result in a shitstorm like it did? They should stop treating people like brainless bags of money and instead tell them reasons and listen to them.

>>17683934
If you are talking about falcom games they have huge PC fanbase since beginning. I don't think i know nips gust fans (if that even exist on the first place) talking about PC port, at least until now.

>>17683939
Gust definitely has nothing to do with the ports. It's just KT whoring it out for extra gaijinbux.

>>17683939
KT's in-house engine supposedly can output ports really easily to whatever platform.

Its finally over.
KT just deleted the support ticket.

Screw you guys and your /v/ shenanigans, I have Ion.

>>17684486
Ion is the loveliest.
She deserves a better thread.

>>17684110
In this case it's something they must do, and must success. If not, the devs are doomed.

December 21st is the launch date.

http://gematsu.com/2017/09/atelier-lydie-suelle-launches-december-21-japan

>>17685306
Japan is still their main market so not really.

>>17685306
And they're not "doomed" either. Only yoru2 truly bombed.

>>17682878
Where else should they post about it? KT keep making these shit ports, they should know people aren't happy about it.

>>17683603
You can't talk about Atelier on /v/, every thread turns into Sophiefag vs Anti-Sophiefag arguments until it dies.

>>17683889
Of the 5 negative Steam reviews so far, one is in moon.

i have no idea why exa_pico is canned
- established series with a shitton of recognition
- doesn't follow a gameplay formula, so they can be as experimental as they want
fuck you can sell it on the music alone
Or are they waiting to do it in VR?

>>17685509
Because they've got Tsuchiya busy with a mobage. There's also the problem that Cielno and Arno sold below expectations.

>>17685509
Tecmo-Koei bought Gust. And Bandai Namco absorbed the company that absorbed Banpresto.
But TK and Bamco fucking hate eachother, and NISA have their hand in the cookie jar as well somewhere, so Ar Tonelico is stuck forever in copyright limbo.

Tsuchiya is also busy with mobage garbage, so there's no one to even champion the hopeless cause.

>>17685462
Nobody cares, this thread is vidya and not /jp/ related, go discuss videogames in appropriate board.

>>17685647
I'm not sure what you think /jp/ is for exactly. You know Touhou is a video game series, right?

>>17685660
>/jp/ - Otaku Culture
>All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).
>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual novels and light novels. Western visual novels should be posted to /vg/, and translated visual novels are fine on either board.

Atelier is neither VN nor Doujin game. So fuck off to /v/.

Pretty

>>17685682
>diverse niche Japanese interests
I think Gust applies here

Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see anything low res about the 2D art assets.

The in-game menu only goes up to 720p if you don't select fullscreen, but you can get around that, and fullscreen allows higher anyways.

>>17685743
Lurk more before posting.

>>17685807
Try with drawn art.

>>17685821
There's almost no hand-drawn CGs during the game iirc. There's a few during the ending credit roll.

>>17685821
http://steamcommunity.com/app/658260/discussions/0/1495615865231085736/

I'm still trying to mess around with my computer to get this game working the way I want it to so I haven't tested myself yet, but it looks like someone else already did.

The 2D art assets are not 720p

>>17685821
http://steamcommunity.com/app/658260/discussions/0/1495615865231085736/
I'm still trying to mess around with my computer to get this game working the way I want it to so I haven't tested myself yet, but it looks like someone else already did. The 2D art assets don't seem to be 720p. In fact they look HIGHER res than the PS4 version. Or at least less blurry.

>12/21
Christmas present! From myself.

Firis is coming back!

>>17686691
Firis is not that cute.

If I buy the "season pass", will that stop Gust from going bankrupt?

Too many boy pins, Iris and Mana Khemia were a FUCKING mistake.

>>17686453
Nice, that's sure is good to know. There must have been some mistake with that ticket support. I've been only hearing good things about the port so far and I'm hopeful that this is a signal that future ports will be fine as well.

>>17686697
Firis is really, really cute.

>>17685817
Right back at you, Gust threads have been on /jp/ for eons, discussing the games used to not even be allowed on /v/ at certain point.

>>17686874
Iris 2 pin should've been Viese (or both), Felt's talents are similar to Logy's. He couldn't synthesize with a cauldron.

I don't think Edge could synthesize at all.

>>17686908
>>17683144

>>17686924
I still like Gust games, you might as well ignore the thread or delete yourself from existence if that's the case.

>>17686940
Simply ebin.

>>17686921
They should've ignored Iris and Mana Khemia and put Meriel instead.

>>17686924
>>17686954
I liked Sophie, loved Firis and I'm excited for Lydie & Suelle. /v/ is a great place to shitpost about people liking things you don't like a child, why don't you go back there?

>>17686980
r/atelier is a great place to complain about people disliking things you like like a child, why don't you go back there?

>>17686971
Please don't ignore Viese, she's a cute sister who cares deeply about her brother.

http://gematsu.com/2017/09/atelier-lydie-suelle-adds-firis-ilmeria-lydie-suelles-father

Firis, Illmeria, and the twins father added. We need Plachta, Gust.

>>17685682
Neither is AT. Honestly this thread should've always been in /vg/.

>>17687049
I wonder if he's going to be playable, that would be cute.

>>17687277
AT is in fact half VN.

>>17687356
Are the models in this game worse than in Firis?

>>17687381
No? This is low quality picture.

>>17687351
>no longer small chested

What the fuck.

>>17687428
At least it's not severe cow tumor.
Still dumb though, this is one of the reasons I rarely like reappearances. Mutilating a design and using a known name to sell a character. Just lazy.

>>17687351
So she's a sadistic queen now? Because that's what this design is saying to me.

>>17687428
>>17687483
>>17687496
She's SO cute, stop bullying her.

>>17687422
Why are you asking him question?

>>17687376
Still has those bizarre open-legged boots. At least they're less pointy this time.

>>17688019
All the girl characters should have open-toed footwear.

>>17688084
No characters should have open-toed footwear.

>>17687356
What the fuck happened to Firis

Blue Reflection has been really entertaining thus far.

Seeing the MC excited at the ability to move on her feet again was a joy. The game did well to make her inability to participate in ballet so sad and relatable in such a short period of time. The fact that the game spends time doing this with other characters when you go into their psyche to solve their problems makes it so much easier to care about and stay interested in the gameplay since its closely related to the plot and characters. I love it. The dynamic music changes during cutscenes is also lovely.

>>17689507
You're 6 months late to be discussing the game like it's brand new, EOP.

>>17685682
Here ya go champ, fuck off.

>>17689852
Did you read your own screenshot? It's states exactly why they are tolerated. Because of AT, not because of atelier trash.

>>17689972
Atelier is also heavy on character interaction and didn't really have enough volume to survive on /vg/ before. Now that KT is shitting them out on Steam we're getting a lot more Atelier interest though.

>>17690009
>Atelier is also heavy on character interaction
No, not at all.

>>17690038
What? Thats one of the main things about it is the character interactions. Have you even played one?

>>17690049
More like Atelier is the only jrpg you played.
Regardless it doesn't have VN elements and therefore not /jp/ related.

A few pictures I took at Tokyo Games Show 2017 on Sunday.

As it was the 20th anniversary of Atelier series, there was a small gallery of old Atelier goods at the KT booth.

I only have a small point-and-shoot digital camera so the pictures will vary in quality.

KT had a dedicated section for Atelier but sadly it was at the back of the booth facing the wall. Meanwhile the front of the booth (that faces the crowds) was full of Fire Emblem Musou, or something, along with Dynasty Warriors.

Posters of previous games.
I am tempted to hunt for copies of them through Mandarake and the likes.

>>17690864
Yet there's still a long line for the new Atelier and the goods related to the recent Ateliers got sold out (Atelier rearrange music CD, tote bag, and Sophie acrylic sold out on the first day). I still need that music in lossless or am I not looking at the right places?

>>17690864
This is just sad.

I playtested a demo version of Lydie and Soule.
It didn't have anything other than a bit of combat. The combat itself was wonky because I didn't have any good materials with me, and there were lots of tutorials I couldn't really be arsed to read through.

I got the clear folder of Atelier Online and a Lydie and Soule badge at the end of my playtesting.

>>17690888
I actually have those CDs but I don't have a CD drive to read them yet.
I haven't listened to them myself.

>>17690930
Got mine too, it was actually the first I lined up for on day 1 and went to ZoE and Metal Gear Survive They were also offering a badge if you buy at least 3k yen from their shop but I didn't because I got late in the afternoon and the CD and tote bag was sold out.

There's an mp3 version of it floating around and I do like half of the tracks in it. If you're planning to upload it sometime, I can wait.

>>17690864
>KT had a dedicated section for Atelier but sadly it was at the back of the booth facing the wall
At this point I'm convinced KT is doing it on purpose.
Are they planning to kill Gust or something?

Why did the never bring back minigames like Marie had? They're so fun.

>>17691996
Atelier has less normalfag appeal so it's not surprising that they'd have Fire Emblem and Dynasty Warriors in the better displayed spot.

>>17687351
Massive downgrade. As much as I'd love Corneria back, I'd be worried that they'd completely ruin her. Hopefully there's no more returning characters from Firis.

finished version

>Lydie's Marie outfit

>>17693221
The Arland series was popular among riajuu schoolgirls.

Plachta when? Next scans better have her or I riot. She must be playable too.

Well just preordered the switch edition with the paperweights.

>>17694078
Don't worry, she's too popular to not be in.

>>17694232
That's what I've been assuming too. It's just odd that they didn't introduce her with Sophie. It would be a huge slap to the face to include everyone else but not her. I'd imagine they've learned their lesson with Shallie since people were mad that Ayesha and Logy weren't in it originally.

>>17694141
They're pins.

>>17694232
They wanted to put her in but Sophie said no.

I won’t get the highest LE for the switch unless they put a new keychain set

How long is blue reflection?

fuck, why this game is too much freezing in my computer?!

>>17694866
I finished it in around 25 hours.

>>17694663
That's so cute.

>>17694476
Not according to Amazon Japan

>>17696500
Thanks

I am rather annoyed that Firis dropped the whole cauldron system from Sophie when that was one of the best parts of that game. Instead we get mass synthesis which is just tedious as fuck and a terrible idea all around. At first I was liking Firis, but the further I get the more it's annoying me.

>>17685687
Which .ini file should I change to get a higher resolution and antialiasing, and what should I add to it?

>>17697005
Nevermind, found it in the KoeiTecmo folder in Documents.

So has anyone found one of these yet?

>we can see Sophie's panties in Warrior All-Stars
Best musou.

>Fox Heart has a tremendously powerful healing effect that continuously heals for a significant amount of time
>equipping Admiration onto a basic attack further heals her while she damages enemies
>has the strongest attack
Is there anything that can stop Lime?

>>17702030
Lime's too slow.
Besides, I rarely ever need healing. Put everyone on Ether charge, hold the recovery button while waiting for your turn (or the defend button if your HP's full), then start nuking away.

Is Atelier Firis worth buying at 30-35 bucks?

>>17702243
Yes.
Even if you're not too impressed by the base game, the crafting and end game grinding is kind of fun, lot of potential playtime as well.

When's the best time to start grinding the girl's friendships in Blue Reflection? I'm up to Chapter 5

Is it just me getting horrible stuttering on recent Gust ports?

>>17704974
I think you're the only one playing Steam BR here, as EOP anon was pointing out a while ago.

Does anyone have this picture without the sample text? Sophie is impossibly smug in it and I'd love to make it a wallpaper.

another finished version

Thoughts on Firis OST?

The birthday hats are for Gust's 24th birthday. They will be a Christmas cake soon.

>>17707865
Wasn't too impressed at first, but I find myself listening to it often now.
In game it's presented poorly.

How could they ruin her this badly? Now we have her, Firis, Liane, and that other dude all wasting party member slots.

>>17709266
>Firis

>>17709300
Well she's not as bad as Liane. If they would've brought just her and Illmeria back and not fucked up Illmeria's design then I would've been okay with that.

>>17709266
The only thing I dislike about the new design is the thing on her head; it looks even sillier than the ribbon alone did. In general I like the new design a lot more.

>>17709330
It's way worse. You don't have a small chested girl grow that big. It's just not cool man.

>>17709327
>Liane
Just stop before I catch your bad taste.

>>17709334
Is that the only reason you dislike it?

>>17709359
I think it's that anon who kept complaining about no flat protags.

So I wrote this post up on /v/ but then the thread devolved into a mess of arguing about another company's games. I stopped coming to these threads for a long time, so did you guys have similar thoughts on Firis, or am I just missing something fundamental about it here? I think what bothers me the most is how it took the things I did like about Sophie and messed those up.
That said, I'm only now at the point of recruiting Il after travelling through the waterspout, so if the game does pick up from here, please let me know.

>>17709404
Firis is far worse. It doesn't get really get much better.

>>17709404
I still haven't touched my copy of Firis. I planned on playing it someday, but reading your post, I'm considering not playing it entirely. The complains I've heard about Firis was the launch bugs and barren open world, I didn't know they also mess up with the gameplay mechanics and alchemy system so badly. I should've been skeptical when most people who defended Firis played it on Steam.

>>17709337
It's too late for you. Firis and Il were okay, I may have over exaggerated. But there was nothing likable about Liane. She was so goddamn annoying.

>>17710190
I've been playing the PC port and I can't say I've had any trouble with bugs. It runs pretty poorly, but my video card is pretty outdated by now (GTX 660 Ti). I haven't had a single crash yet, which is more than I can say for the Vita games. You're right about the barren world though. Of the areas so far, there have been:
Rocky mountain area, open grassy plains with village 1, forest, forest with fog, other forest with fog, another forest, forest 2.0 with village 2, ruins, tiny beach area, city 1, city 1's port, and open grassy plains 2.
So there isn't much variety going on. And there isn't any variety in items within a map either, any gathering point of each type will give the same stuff, no matter where on the map it is. Actually, one exception comes to mind, which is that a few crystals in the first area won't give you spirit stones, while others will. I guess I might be remembering this wrong, but I can't think of any other examples.
Honestly the thing that bugs me the most is the party members having no events. Revy had two events, one for bringing a key to you and then for fixing it and having him join. Then there's an archaeologist guy and an axe-wielding woman who both have had only a single event introducing them and having them join and not a single thing since. You can go to inns and pay loads of money for the "suite" rest, which gives you events with them, but that seems to be all that party members get.

>>17710248
I find Firis painfully bland; she doesn't really have any traits other than being a crybaby. Il is sort of likeable, but also a rather bland character. Same goes for Liane; her whole character can be boiled down to "siscon", but I don't dislike her. I guess with how little personality they all have it just depends on what archetypes people like.

>>17710283
The open world caused characters and events to suffer badly. A lot of scenes don't come until after you pass the exam and they're all done in a lazy VN style. By this I mean that you have characters on each side of the screen. All Liane does throughout the game is constantly sperg out about how cute Firis is. She immediately left me with a terrible impression right from the beginning of the game. Firis is okay but her seiyuu is annoying. Also constantly hearing her field dialogue is awful. But you can't fast travel so you better get used to hearing it nonstop. Illmeria was the only decent one but then they go and throw the super-cliche breast envy trope on her during the second group hotsprings scene. I can't stand this type of shit, it's always terrible and does nothing for the character.

>>17709359
It's annoying to have this happen, yes. The actual outfit design is alright though. Sophie at least stayed a consistent medium.

>>17710335
>Also constantly hearing her field dialogue is awful.
Speaking of, it seems like there actually is a bug there, because no matter how far down I turn the volume sliders, her field voice clips are always super loud. It doesn't help that her fishing voice lines cut themselves off because they're too long for the animations they're made for, for some reason.
>It's annoying to have this happen, yes. The actual outfit design is alright though. Sophie at least stayed a consistent medium.
You know, I've been pretty harsh on Sophie's designs, but I like most of the character designs in Firis. Although the asymmetry does still bother me a bit.

>>17710335
I must say I like Sophie a lot. Her thick coat and her thick smugness.

>>17710646
I find it somewhat endearing that as she grows up she still picks coats that must be twice her size

From 145 to 159. That is quite a massive growth spur, she is just 3cm off her sister and she's taller than Sophie by about half a head and way taller than Ilmeria. Not sure if I want Firis to become Liliane 2.0

>>17711575
I like it. She's growing into her tits.

>started Blue Reflection
>had the same exact lagging issue in the opening scene like Firis

What is this shit? Goddamnit Koei Tecmo.

>>17715780
Koei tecmo's ports of their own games are fine. Blame the inept programmers in Gust.

>>17716183
With the recent influx of Japanese games getting ported to Steam, I would think some Pajeet setup a studio in some ghetto part of Tokyo to handle all these porting.

>>17711575
>she's taller than Sophie by about half a head

Are you fucking real?

>>17716284
Sophie's 152.

>>17716369
That would be awkward.

>>17716371
152's average for an asian anime girl, Firis shooting up 17 in 3 years is the crazy growth spurt. Not quite as cute anymore, she's way too similar to Liliane now.

>>17716389
Yeah, I got that feeling when she started wearing that coat.

>>17711575
>>17716392
I guess Firis chose to become more of a warrior like her sister?

Most likely not. All Atelier protags canonly focus themselves on alchemy.

>>17716389
Liliane is cute though.

>>17716389
Firis was way too stacked for her height so it's really is an improvement.

>>17716183
>Koei tecmo's ports of their own games are fine.
No they're not. People say Arslan and Musou All Stars were fine, but DW8, DOA5, Bladestorm, Attack on Titan, and Toukiden were all terrible ports.

>>17716369
She's 156 in Firis and LydieSuelle and 154 in Sophie. She only grew 2cm in 8 years. Which is good because I didn't want her to grow much. Plachta is 152. Firis is now 159 which is not close to being "a head taller" than Sophie even if she were 152. This is cm not inches.

>>17717521
>DW8
The only bad thing about it was the load time.

>DOA5
This is a native PC game because it's the arcade version. What's wrong with it?

>>17718046
>The only bad thing about it was the load time.
And that they used the PS3 assets instead of the PS4 ones. Also, no mouse support whatsoever.
>This is a native PC game because it's the arcade version.
I don't know how you figure this to be the case.
>What's wrong with it?
http://www.pcgamer.com/dead-or-alive-5-last-round-drops-soft-engine-and-extra-levels-on-the-pc/

>>17709266
You know, I think I was mistaken here. I looked at the scans again and I don't think Liane, Illmeria, and Roger are playable party members. The TGS demo also didn't have Liane playable in it even though she was revealed with Sophie and Mathias. No screenshots of them are shown in battle either. The official site only has the three in small portraits below the rest of the cast too. So I'm fairly sure it's the twins, Sophie, Firis, and Mathias as the only playable characters so far. My bad. We'll probably get 4 or 5 more party members, Plachta hopefully/probably being one of them.

>>17708628
Pororica is amazing.

>>17704974
I only get stuttering when the movies play.

>>17717521
>waiting months for online play on DoA
>when it finally arrived I already had lost all the interest in the game
KT always manage to make me sad with their PC ports, I also was dumb enough to buy Bladestorm and Toukiden, these games were KT at their worst. Toukiden 2 was not terrible, though, at least it was functional.

Just play the games on console. Problem solved.

>>17718472
Liane turned into a shopkeeper to fund Firis' alchemy research

>>17718491
>Buy Dragon Quest Heroes II for the Switch
>it runs like shit
You mean on the main console the game was developed to, right? Because KT ports are shit no matter what platform they are doing.

>>17718505
That being said, DQH2 on PC was alright. I guess that what pisses me off, they are capable of doing good ports, but for some reason it's always hit and miss.

>>17718505
Yeah, PS4 is usually your best option for anything KT.

Translation never

>>17718488
>>waiting months for online play on DoA
You know, I'd totally forgotten about that, despite it probably being one of the worst things they've done. So there's that too.

>>17718184
>I don't know how you figure this to be the case.
Because they share the same features. The arcade version was Ultimate (last gen) which didn't have support for the current gen soft engine shit that was added way later. It was never a port. They lifted a game that was already there and sold it. Last Round a fancy name they gave to patch 2.0 of Ultimate to sell it again on PS4/XB1.
The more you know.

>>17718721
>It was never a port.
A port from arcade to PC is still a port.
>Last Round a fancy name they gave to patch 2.0 of Ultimate to sell it again on PS4/XB1.
The PC version is called Last Round too though. And it got retooled into the same Core Fighters version as the consoles have, and got most of the same DLC, even though the Senran Kagura stuff on PC doesn't have the clothing destruction. And it's still missing stages and they didn't add online for months.

I'm not sure what your point is here. You're just trying to say "it's the arcade version" as though that somehow stops it from being a shit port in other regards, and it's still a worse version of the game compared to the console one.

>>17718881
>A port from arcade to PC is still a port.
It's not a port if it runs natively on PC because the arcade machines used PC hardware.
The PS3/360 version after the patch were also called Last Round, further highlighting the fact that it's just a glorified patch name. Using Ultimate for the PC release would imply it's an "old" version and hurt sales even though it literally is. The actual name of the PC version should be DOA5 Ultimate Arcade 2.0. Go ahead and compare the features if you don't believe me.
I guess the point is it doesn't run like shit like Gust ports for once?

>>17718975
I thought Sophie's port was okay, YnnK's was good, and Blue Reflection's was decent despite the shitstorm? Also you are doing a lot of mental gymnastics to get around the fact that the PC version of DOA is inferior to the current generation console version.

>>17719045
There's no mental gymnastics because I never once compared it to the next gen versions. I'm just stating the facts. It's the arcade version that runs without hitches the same way the arcade version does in arcades.

>>17718975
>It's not a port if it runs natively on PC because the arcade machines used PC hardware.
Consoles use parts that go in PCs too, that doesn't make them PCs. You can't just download the arcade version of the game and run it on a PC, nor does the arcade version have half the shit in the PC port. You're a looney.
>I guess the point is it doesn't run like shit like Gust ports for once?
Not being as bad as the ports of Gust's games doesn't stop it from being a bad port.

>>17719073
>There's no mental gymnastics because I never once compared it to the next gen versions. I'm just stating the facts.
You jumped in to defend it when it was brought up as a bad port when the only thing that was initially said about it was that it was a bad port.
>It's the arcade version that runs without hitches the same way the arcade version does in arcades.
Even if we assume your theory to be true, that's beside the point. A 1:1 copy of a game is not a good PC port. Making a good port involves making it actually run well on PC hardware, providing options for PC users, and providing support for PC input devices.

>>17719263
>You can't just download the arcade version of the game and run it on a PC
You can if it's the same architecture and OS. Even if the OS is different, as long as the architecture is the same and the syscalls aren't too different porting is still trivial.

You really shouldn't talk about such things if you don't have actual systems and software engineering experience.

Talk about the games, if you want to argue about stupid shit like PC and consoles you should go to /g/ and /v/

>>17719263
>>17719517
All of this only highlight how lazy KT is since they just put the arcade version on PC and were done with it.
Yes, it was functionnal but it's not enough nowadays as the game at release lacked basic stuff like being able to reassign control key or issues like changing your steam user name would cause to lose your save.
And the missing stages are still not in and all of their game cost as much, if not more, on PC than console, confirming that KT doesn't give a fuck about PC.

>>17719517
>You can if it's the same architecture and OS.
Which it isn't, and as such you can't run it on PC, which is why it was ported. End of story.

>sold worse than steam asset flip games

RIP. I just hope the next Atelier game will sell decently.

We need to spam KT support with loli more often.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/658260/announcements/detail/1459588336520065815

>>17720679
I concur

>>17719872
You know you can't prove that claim because an arcade rip never existed before it was officially released.
Arcade games that run natively on PC are nothing new. Get with the times.

>>17720983
It's still a port if they're porting from an extremely specific computing setup to a superset of that computing setup. A port of a gamecube game to the wii is still a port, even though the wii can run gamecube games. It's not like they take the arcade version of the game and release it for PC, they have to rewrite parts of the engine to make it work on general PCs instead of just the arcade setup.

>>17720679
>of the tutorial

so... should we expect a patch for each chapter or something?

>>17722509
>A port of a gamecube game to the wii is still a port, even though the wii can run gamecube games.
Didn't I just warn you about talking about shit you know nothing about?

The Wii contains the Gamecube hardware, you don't port Gamecube games to the Wii, you run Gamecube games on the Wii natively.

>It's not like they take the arcade version of the game and release it for PC
That's exactly what they can do, if it's the same architecture.

You know one way to port Windows games to Linux? You take the Windows game and you wrap it in Wine, an OS mapping layer. If the architecture is the same, "porting" is trivial.

>>17722844
>and other

>>17718472
>Ilmeria
>not playable

People are going to be mad.

Can you still forgive Luca for what she did?

She's a bad girl but she's aware of what she is and she is sorry for hurting everyone.

>>17724485
God, the girls on that game were so bad.

Atelier is so much better if you're looking for cute girls.

>>17724490
They weren't that bad, and at least they had some actual character to them. And sure, at times they were shitty, but they still had enough going for them to be sympathetic, I would argue (both in their backstory and their mellowing out).
Unless you are talking about their designs. Those are pretty bad.

>>17724556
The only good girl is Jacqli desu

>>17724574
I don't actually like Jakuri much. I can never forget that she once led half of Wings to collapse. And her character doesn't appeal to me much either.
Cloche is good. I did think she was a bitch at first, but she really grew on me, especially with her backstory. Shit was depressing, I can fully understand her turning out that way. Also her relationship with Sasha is adorable.
I don't have a particular opinion on Luca. Didn't go through her route either; planning to do that the next time I go through the game again.

This must be the lewdest Totori official image.

>Artonelico 2

I still remember agreeing with the villain's plan to brain upload everyone to paradise.

>>17724887
And making the final boss that girl was quite the nice twist.

For those who have BR PC, if you didn't back up your PACK00_02.PAK then the latest update erases some of the DLC embedded in it. Specifically NoA costume, FF15 costume, and the Bikini DLC.

Also there's free DLC.

>>17724556
>Unless you are talking about their designs. Those are pretty bad.
I didn't know that shit taste was a disease. Hope you get well soon.

>>17723783
>The Wii contains the Gamecube hardware, you don't port Gamecube games to the Wii, you run Gamecube games on the Wii natively.

>>17724485
No, fuck Luca. I can't imagine why anyone would actually pick her the first time through.

>>17723783
>you don't port Gamecube games to the Wii
You totally do. >>17725783


>That's exactly what they can do, if it's the same architecture.
No, they can't. You have no idea how software development works.

>>17724655
>hurr I can see her feet, it's so lewd

How about no.

>>17725783
There's a difference between playing a Gamecube version of a game on a Wii and a Wii version of a game on the Wii. They use totally different hardware.

Just like how you can take a Gamecube game and play it on the Wii using the Gamecube hardware on the Wii, you can take an arcade game that runs on x86 hardware inside an arcade cabinet and play it on the x86 hardware inside a PC.

>>17725885
>You have no idea how software development works.
I work closely on Android and Chrome OS development, anon. It's not the same as "b-b-but my iOS apps can't run natively on Android, they are both ARM!" level that you're at.

Suelle is a qt

>>17727212
>you can take an arcade game that runs on x86 hardware inside an arcade cabinet and play it on the x86 hardware inside a PC.
Which isn't what they did with DOA on PC, because they ported it.

>>17725789
I don't get how you could have cared about that game's ending and its resulting outcomes (such as Ar Ciel's restoration) if you despised her.

>>17724574

Short-sighted, idiotic and using the horribad wrong spelling for her name.

yuri twins

Were we supposed to get bonus stuff for pre-ordering BR? I technically placed my order on the 25th on amazon but they never emailed me any codes or anything.

>>17731386
Yes.
PS4 theme, school swimsuits, and Rorona outfit for Hinako. I had to email them and complain that I didn't get codes.

>>17731403
That's what I'm doing right now. I don't really care for it that much but if I'm supposed to get free stuff then I want free stuff.

>>17731403
I love making Hinako wear the Rorona outfit with the other two wearing the Homs outfit.

>>17731386
Oh shit, i ordered on the 20th and didn't get anything, thanks for reminding me.

Is it me or the cutscenes in ar tonelico gets super laggy

Sarasa makes a good Yuzu.

>Preorder Atelier Firis on Steam
>Runs like garbage
>Not making same mistake with Blue Reflection!
>Use fucking Gamestop funny-money obtained a while back to preorder BR
>Decide to pirate PC version first
>Runs well... until Chapter 7's wall of crashes
>No one has the updated version anywhere I can download
>Don't want to start over on PS4 or buy Steam version

I have no one to blame here but myself

>>17738498
Aha.

>>17738990
>Hair clipping through the head
How do you fuck up this badly, Gust?

>>17739202
The model probably isn't linking up well with Yuzu's animation.

Any word on how YnnK2 runs on Switch? It is disaster like the Vita version of 1 or is it actually okay?

>>17738498
Google fitgirl, friend. I can't say if it actually fixes the wall of crashes as I'm not that far yet, but the repack includes the patch.

I guess no one is really playing this any more.

This is gayer than AT2.

>>17731309
This is so goddamn cute.

>>17740555
No way I'm going to play that kind of game.
I'd be very grateful if people posted updates on the plot, or setting, or characters, or whatever.

>>17740020
>disaster like the Vita version of 1
The Switch version of YnnK2 has a different graphical configuration than the Vita version (Switch actually has lighting), and isn't nearly as choppy. Still far from the standard PS4 in all aspects.

Would recommend the Switch version only if you cannot get the PS4 version.
Cannot recommend the Vita version.

>>17739370
It's a model swap?

>>17743994
Yep, Sarasa's not playable outside of support actions.

Besides she's nearly twice Yuzu's height. I'm surprised it didn't turn out worse.

>>17742650
It's actually not too bad if you ignore the gatcha aspects, although I'll admit that mobage science has gotten very good at tickling primal human desires.


Apparently, Chiharu is Tsubame's curan and Japan is in Tsubame's Phenomenon
[spoiler/]

>>17738498
Go back to /v/

Is it really true that YnnK2 has worse gameplay and pretty much everything compared to first game? I was really looking forward to it, but I just keep reading that japan really hated that game.

>>17745478
Thats what I hearing as well. Its a shame too, I had a pretty good time with the first game and was looking forward to the second

>>17745531
Majority of complaints I see come from those Amazon.jp reviews. I know plenty of "reviews" there are dumb as hell, but I don't know what to believe anymore. Its just very hard to believe that Gust did most things worse than they were in first game, which already was average game. I had lot of fun with it nevertheless.

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/10/10/plachta-fritz-drossel-join-atelier-lydie-suelle-new-characters-alto-lucia-revealed/

In case there was any doubt, Prachta confirmed in LS

>>17746944
Where's my Coru confirmation?

>>17711575
those fucking thighs though, unf

new Plachta

>>17747033
Did she finally develop a sense of shame and desired modesty or something?

>>17746944
>>17747033
Is she playable though? Also why the fuck would they bring back Drossel? She was awful.

>>17747033
I love Platcha!

>>17747033
Looks like a fluid druid
Pretty different from Plachta's normal image, honestly. What kind of alchemy did she specialize in anyway?

>>17746968
They'd rather bring back fan favorites like...

drossel.

>>17747133
Russia-chan is cute

>>17685687
>>17697005
Okay I found the ini, what settings you guys use? My game looks like jaggy ass

>>17747301
There's barely anything to change
You just change the resolution.

>>17746944
She'd be so much better without the ponytail.

>>17747694
I want to pull on her tail and I don't mean the ponytail

>>17747033
Goddammit she better be playable. I'm getting worried here.

>>17747987
They are pushing a duo based battle system so it is a no brainer she is partnering with Sophie.

>>17748437
Exactly. If she's not playable that completely fucks everything up for me. I have to fill a 6 person party but Gust is known for doing retarded shit sometimes.

>>17748437
Browsing 5ch with google translate and it sounds like there's rumors that she's not playable? I don't know if people are just speculating or if someone is actually leaking the info. I need scans already.

>>17746944
>>17747093
Did Drossel even have a single event after the one where you meet her?

>>17749526
Yes? She even has her own ending, like all relevant characters in Firis
Too bad she's a one-joke character, I hate it when Gust makes these

>>17749236
>plachta (male)

>>17749859
What if Plachta was actually a boy and Luard a girl, but they forgot it, and reincarnated wrong?

>>17749532
I know nothing about Drossel, but she does have a nice rack. I guess that's her only redeeming feature?

>>17751331
She's a dum-dum obsessed with puppetry, even worse than her dad(Fritz)
There were good characters with some depth in Firis(like Angriff), but Doris(along with Oscar) are so one-dimensional its just sad

>>17751331
Sure, if you're into massive over-sized tits but that was a negative aspect of her in my opinion. But it's not even just that, she really was a shitty character. She was obsessed with a small doll version of her dad and her events were cringey as fuck. I remember sitting there playing the game and all of sudden having her freak the fuck out at Fritz because he wasn't treating his doll version right or something. It was badly done drama and I hate to say it but it did feel forced. Firis in general was guilty of a lot of scenes like this. Oscar getting all over-emotional about a flower and Illmeria suddenly getting super pissed at Firis out of nowhere just because some random fags were gossiping. Drossel just was one of the least likeable characters and she didn't have much of a point.

>>17751618
>massive over-sized tits
They're big, but not massive or over-sized

please tell me they didn't make Plachta's chest bigger

Why is her height "??"? This is her same doll body, right?

>>17751753
>>17751756
>that Liddy sideboob
hnnngh

>>17751769
Is Alt also a doll automata like Plachta? That mechanical spine

>>17751795
Probably. It lists ?? for his age.

>>17751812
He looks cute and sassy, which is rare for male atelier characters. Hope he has an important role

>>17751756
I wonder if Lucia is playable as well. I think Alto is the only one confirmed in these scans since he's shown in battle. Seems odd though, since Plachta should be a given and Lucia look like she would be playable too. I thought she was wearing armor earlier but I guess that's not the case.

>>17753394
It'd be strange not to have Platcha playable, considering they already have battle animations for her.
She's also quite popular.

>>17751764
Perhaps Sophie keeps tweaking her every night. wink wink nudge nudge

>>17751839
He kind of looks like Accelerator. As long as he doesn't get in the way of yuri then he could be cool.

>>17740256
3 days later, but son of a bitch that actually worked. Thank you friend!

Okay these girls are fucking weird
Am I autistic or what? I can't tell if she's taking the piss out of me or legitimately trying to get my pantsu.

>>17756286
What's there not to understand? She wants the V.

How am I supposed to play this game? I'm still not sure
I just did all missions and made it to chapter 5 rather quick, but I've been neglecting the dates with side girls. I assume I'll end up clearing the game without befriending anyone at this rate. How many days should I spend on each chapter?

Also Lime is bonkers

>>17756645
You can burn through all the side story stuff in a single chapter.
Save it for later as you will unlock more depending what chapter you are on.

>>17756286
Nothing wrong with you, this is just neogust writing.

Misha's a big girl.

>>17757058
Loli version is superior.

Is there anything by Gust other than Ar Tonelico and assorted spin-offs that isn't yurishit garbage?

>>17757855
Nights of Azure is the only outright yuri series Gust has made.

>>17757855
Fuck off

>>17757917
But at least the Arland trilogy of Atelier games seems pretty filled to the brim with that sort of stupid pandering anyway. Could you advise me on how to avoid this wanton faggotry in Gust developed games, anon?

>>17757966
By killing yourself.

>>17757966
The otome game is probably the least yuri thing possible.

I want to give Sophie candy.

>>17753394
Why are people calling her Lucia? It's not Lucia, if they wanted her name to be Lucia it'd be written as ルシア, not ルーシャ.

>>17760665
Gematsu translated it that way. With gust you never know so wait until we have the official translation.

>>17760706
Well Gematsu was dumb.

https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/atelier/lydie/live/

Stream on the 18th. Don't know if they'll reveal anything important or if it's just them talking about nothing.

Everyone around me says I'm gloomy but I listen to hip-hop and stuff

>>17768274
>>17768274
>>17768274
new thread