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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What have you finished? What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? You know the drill.

>> No.17560793

>>17560582
Yeah, I really want more from that artist.

>> No.17560900
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ちょこたんや
ああちょこたんや
ちょこたんや

>> No.17561076

>>17560776
>What have you finished? What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? You know the drill.
Some Japanese VN games or エロゲー's as we call them.
I'm currently playing a game made by the creators of Dies irae.
I'm really looking forward to the release of Dies irae.
Yeah, I guess I know the drill...

>> No.17561152

>>17560900
Her head and body don't match. It's almost disturbing.

>> No.17561201
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>>17561152
you talkin' shit 'bout my waifu, son?

>> No.17561224

>>17561201
No they've definitely got a point. That CG looks like they traced a 3D human body and pasted on the sprite head, it doesn't look good or natural at all.

The fact they even drew the gutters on the roof though, is pretty nice.

>> No.17561273

>>17561224
I know I know, but Choco is still god's gift to mankind regardless of how well lowly mortal artists can convey her form. Been a while since I found a heroine this tailored to my tastes.

>> No.17561290

>>17549271
Can someone please tell me where this CG is from?

>> No.17561308

>>17561290
アマツツミ

>> No.17561343

>>17560776
Can someone please tell me where this CG is from?

>> No.17561353

>>17561308
>アマツツミ
Thanks!

>> No.17561422

>>17561343
Suicide Fence

>> No.17561523

>>17561290
get 4chanx if you can't see the filename from he spoiler

>> No.17561706
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>>17561201

Is she your waifu? Or are you just another pig.

>> No.17561804
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>> No.17561899

Any eroge that made you cry?

>> No.17561904

>>17561899
Dozens.

>> No.17561934

>>17561899

I'm fairly easily teary eyed, but really strongly crying where it even becomes an issue to read on, that's only a few games. You obviously have to get majorly invested. And unfortunately I don't even remember which games where the heaviest. If I had to guess, Fortissimo probably managed it with the last parts for Momiji, same as Daito in some of the routes of the characters I liked and didn't have a sucky route.

And guess what, when you write about this, you remember. Himawari no Kyoukai to Nagai Natsuyasumi Yomi's route. I was hit so heavy from that flashback and shit. Geez. It really resonated with me. Cats I tell ya.

>> No.17561937

>>17561899
ChronoBox.

>> No.17561946

>>17561899
Lots, but WA2 probably the most.

>> No.17561950

>>17561899
>>17561946
This. Even hearing the ost brings back the feels.

>> No.17561977
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>tfw learned only Katakana and Hiragana and can still read VN's perfectly

>> No.17561990
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What are your thoughts on these reactions to Applique crowdfunding their 10th anniversary game?

>売れてないのを業界のせいにするな
>負債があるけどそれに使わないって言っても信用できない。 そこから回収させろという話になるんじゃないの?
>将来性もなく、周りに迷惑かけるくらいなら黙って解散しろ

>> No.17562012

>>17561899
Never really cried to eroge, but I remember WA2 hit me the hardest. Took me like a week to get over that game, and it still brings back feels whenever I listen to the music.
>>17561950
>tfw powder snow starts playing

>> No.17562026

>>17561990

I'm not against it. It's kinda not that well thought of in Japan, but at this point it becomes more and more obvious that eroge that try to do even just a little more get issues. So one option is to try crowd-funding.
Another, looking west, but unfortunately the simple "moege" is also the most popular here.
And then you can try to still fulfill eroge expectations in games where it doesn't fit. So you get something like Tokihate, where you just get a random short "date+sex" arc in every route that clashes super hard with everything else the game does, or Shinsou Noise where the protagonist is forced by some guy to "rape" a heroine instead of having him rape her in front of the protag like anyone would assume in that situation. Sure, you could ask yourself if the rape part was necessary there or not (probably not, the story gets fairly bad later on), but I've seen more than enough eroge suffering from eroge expectations.

So, who knows, maybe SOME kind of fresh wind from croudfunding could work out. Though I'm quite against the moege crowdfunding where people vote with money which pair of tits makes it into the game.

>> No.17562034

>>17561899
I cried so much in 時を紡ぐ約束.

>> No.17562043
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>>17562012
;-;

>> No.17562045

>>17562026
I think crowdfunding itself is good. But having goals like "more money, more KB" is extremely bad and just shows that the company is more interested in delivering quantity for profit rather than an envisioned high quality product. While it's harsh, I think they deserve the hate somewhat. It'd be really bad if this set a precedent and other companies followed that formula.

>> No.17562113

>>17562045

It's fine if it's omakes. But otherwise, yeah.

>> No.17562192

Can you share this vn if you have it? https://vndb.org/v10523

>> No.17562201

>>17562192
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ062550.html

literally less than 10 bucks

>> No.17562241

>>17561899
Literally cry to everything. Remember being a snotty mess after aiyoku no eustia and hatsuyuki sakura.

Probably dozens more I have cried to.

>> No.17562254

Is it worth doing the other heroine endings in title アマツツミ or just go straight for Hotarus?

>> No.17562329

>>17562254
Nope, you're already getting most of what they have going for them in the chapter you do about them.

>> No.17562343

>>17562043
>I STILL LOVE YOU

>> No.17562369

>>17562254
Go straight for best girl.

>> No.17562410
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Man I like how daitoshokan has a bunch of CGs like this and shit. I've just started playing it but the game is so much fun, puts a smile on my face whenever I read it. reminds me of what it's like to chill with a bunch of friends and banter.

>> No.17562433
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>>17562410
Remember that Kana is the best girl. Maho is second.

>> No.17562538

>>17562433

I had to look up how the heck this "Maho" was. And I even guess wrong. I played it like half a year ago. Sure left an impression that girl.

>> No.17562549

>>17562538
Faggot. Your bad memory doesn't make Mochiduki-san bad.

>> No.17562557
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>>17562410
Don't listen to that other guy, there is only one best girl

>> No.17562618
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>>17562433
Kana is a miracle in design, personality and VA altogether. I won't ever forget that time she decimated the popularity poll. One of the times the elevens actually had a decent opinion

>> No.17562644

>>17562618
Plus she has a decent rack without them being cowtits. That's definitely underappreciated nowadays, what with most games having the majority of heroines being E+ cups.

Kanasuke is definitely best daitoshokan though, no arguments there.

>> No.17562665

>>17562644
I'm the one who decides that. You'll have to wait for me to play it to get the final verdict on who is best girl.

>> No.17562670

>>17562644
That's so true. It looks correct and proportionate without catering to either more popular extremes. Cowtits way more often than not are blown up with complete disregard to proportions, and then the sprite would have the heroine painfully hold them in place with their twig arms lest they get torn out of the body by gravity
While Kana is my favorite eroge girl I feel Daito girls are well done and likable in general. Lots of archetypes but it doesn't feel like I'm reading iteration #43520359 of them

>> No.17562684

>>17562549

The other girls were simply more memorable. But in her case it could also be that people rarely called her by her name or something.

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I've been getting this error a lot in Senren Banka so I took a peek at their support page and apparently even with the latest update patch this error isn't fully eliminated. Have any non-official workarounds been developed or do I just have to deal with it?

>> No.17562759

>>17562644
>with most games having the majority of heroines being E+ cups
That has definitely gotten worse over time, especially recent. I expect cowtits from nukige and moege, but when even charage start to include 80% cowtits with one token loli is when I start to get angry at Nips.

Just look at Tone Works' titles for a nice representation of what's going on:
>Hatsukoi 1/1: B, C, D, E, E+
>Hoshi Ori: A, B, C, D, D, E+
>Ginharu: A/B, E+, E+, E+, E+

Personally I prefer the way Hoshi Ori did it, with every girl basically having their own size sans those two D cups.

>> No.17562795

>>17562759
>I expect cowtits from nukige and moege, but when even charage

>> No.17562804

>>17562759
Hoshi Ori needed it for lineup game.
On another note, is Ginharu MC less beta than Hoshi ori's? He makes me want to puke.

>> No.17562826

>>17562804
>On another note, is Ginharu MC less beta than Hoshi ori's?
No and yes, in that order. There's a couple routes where he acts cooler than normal (Bethly, Mizuha) but for the most part he's your average Japanese MC who apologizes too much and can't read between the lines to save his life. If you think Hoshi Ori's MC is bad though, don't read Hatsukoi 1/1.

>> No.17562850

>>17562795
>???

>> No.17562867

>>17562192
https://mega.nz/#!QBYWRTAJ!bk1YWBV3yHZGdFtrwQQN0k_nKCxIb58a-_Qsrcfx8ew

>> No.17562875

While we're at it, SNuff FLag - あるいは睡蓮へ光が射すように when?

>> No.17562915
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>>17562759

I don't care much as long as it looks good. Which is quite often not the case for too big chests.

But I have trouble thinking too much about that anyway. For example, I'm not into lolis. But if I like a character a lot, who just happens to be a loli (which happens quite a bit), I don't really want that any other way, even if that perhaps makes the ero not for me or whatever. I just can't imagine Momiji not being a short A-cup, or Jakuri, or whoever. Same goes for big breasts. Even if it looks dumb, that's just the way it is.

But, well, E cups and whatnot are quite different from game to game anyway. Artstyle and such. The blonde girl here is supposedly E+. This is like B in some other games I feel. And it's not even the most extreme.

>> No.17563067
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>>17561706
Her story is super interesting.

>> No.17563100

totono sucks what should i read next guys

>> No.17563101

>>17562915
I looked that chara up and while I'll agree that she doesn't look like she has a 92cm bust in that pic, her breasts do look to be at least D cup. Also, a lot of the time the sprite will have a smaller bust than say, H CGs where they seemingly expand out of nowhere - Momiji from Ginharu is a huge offender at this, her tits grow 3 cup sizes with no bra.

I'm not too picky either myself, sometimes I actually prefer the cowtit girl and sometimes I prefer the loli.

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>>17563101
>sometimes I actually prefer the cowtit girl and sometimes I prefer the loli.

That should be the gentleman's way.
In the end, as important as looks are, they are never everything. Just yesterday I was watching an episode of Saekano again and got Utaha and Eriri "argue" about scenario vs. art.

As for the cupsize and whatnot. Pic related considers the protag a lolicon for getting attracted to her. Yes, almost all other girls there have massive cowtits, so in comparison.. maybe. She's also probably "underage". But still..

>> No.17563150

>>17563100
Chronobox

>> No.17563160

>>17563100
Tokyo Necro
Ley Line
Senmomo

>> No.17563189

>>17563130
That game looks ripe for some BAD ENDS. How are you liking it so far?

>> No.17563234

>>17563130
>http://seiya-saiga.com/game/astronauts/hyakkiryoran.html
holy shit that's a lot of choices

>> No.17563260

>>17563189
>bad ends

Yeah, it does have a bunch. But it's not too bad. It's not like there are 50 bad ends and 1 good one or something. Although "good" depends on your viewpoint.. I guess?

That said, while the writing could definitely be better, all but one main route were pretty nice and fitting with what I expected of a game like this. A lot of the support character didn't need their mini "routes" though I feel.
The final route wasn't bad either, though in the end the game just had too much time and budget dedicated to ero, even though it feels more "plotge".

I think I wrote something about the game when I finished it, so try the archive or smth if you want to know more. I was just into it a decent amount, because I liked the main heroine and found the idea to try to get her out of the crappy situation she is in appealing. Probably a lot less interesting otherwise.

>> No.17563268

>>17563260
Is that girl you linked above, Ririka, the main heroine by any chance?

>> No.17563277
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>>17563234

That looks deceiving. Most of the time you literally have no other choice but one, and the walkthrough shouldn't be "do only this, or else..." either. It has some enforced stuff as well, so... for example. The first playthrough you see there, literally nothing should matter but the very last part with the small ending branch. And it's really small. You die 10 lines later small if messed up. It's not the strength of the game.
You simply choose your destination every time period and later on you unlock new possibilities. There are some somewhat not too obvious key items to collect for certain good endings, but for the most part... you click on the face you wanna do the route of.

>> No.17563281

>>17563268
>look up Ririka's voice actor
>she does Shiori from Tsukiyo no Miura
picked up

>> No.17563303

>>17563268

Yes. She's also a little special in regards to sex scenes. Do note that this is a spoiler, depending on if you wanna get surprised or not, and in a way it may hint at certain things easier: She is the only girl without a single rape scene.
But I know some wouldn't want to touch this if they don't know this, so if you wanna know something in regards to her sex scenes and without knowing you'd not wanna play it, go ahead.

>> No.17563319

>>17563303
That's good to know. Thanks anon.

>> No.17563339

>>17563281
>Shiori from Tsukiyo no Miura
I played that one because of her design but ended up disappointed because there were like zero on-screen instances of her having actual sex with other guys as far as I remember. I might as well have just read a regular vanilla game.

>> No.17563674

>>17563339
Well, there was that one flashback scene but I don't count that. And during one of the endings she does give head to a couple other dudes while fucking you. Nearly all of the bad stuff happens to the blonde tho.

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>>17561934
i literally fell in love with Hina route instead

>> No.17564420
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Post your favourite VN developers.

Mine is yuzusoft. They are the masters of moe in this industry.

>> No.17564434

>>17564420
Speaking of which, they're probably going to announce a new game soon. It's getting to be about that time frame again since Senren Banka was released.

>> No.17564472
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I'm having a lot of fun reading this, Sensei route was also very good maybe even better than the other routes in the original game.

>> No.17564504
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Is there a release of 素晴らしき日々 that's both in Japanese (e.g. not the Steam version) and has a resolution of 1280*960? I'll buy it if I have to, I just don't want to deal with 800*600 for this VN.

>> No.17564513

>>17564504
Is the 2016 version still low def?

>> No.17564530

>>17564513
>Is the 2016 version still low def?
https://vndb.org/r45794
http://dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/detail/mnphs_0001/
It's listed as 800*600 so it seems it is.

>> No.17564611

I wish Ushio had had a scene like this instead of one of the many 'weirdly-angled' H-scenes that we got: exhentai.org/s/193389d472/1093883-1515

Gotta pray for an append or spinoff or something I guess.

>> No.17564696

>>17564611
I hate how too many VNs try too hard to align the characters with the horizontal 16:9 aspect ratio instead of more natural shots. Results in way too many CGs that look cramped and claustrophobic. You'd think the increase in game resolution over time would allow for wider shots but instead artists are opting for more close-up detail over that.

>> No.17564776

>>17564504
Not yet, but Scaji mentioned working on Subahibi HD with extra story on twitter.

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I feel like the devs missed out on a huge opportunity by not making Ushio the MC's actual onee-san. Even an adopted sister or a cousin with an onee-san-like relationship would have sufficed. The "onee-san" gimmick really doesn't carry itself well enough if there she has no deep and personal familiarity with the MC from the start.

>> No.17564854 [SPOILER] 
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Just finished Yusumi's route in Hatsukoi. I think this one is my favorite out of the three I've done so far. Yusumi is pretty cute, so it's kind of a shame she isn't present at all in any of the other routes. Although now that I think about it, only one heroine is omnipresent throughout the whole game, since the others aren't connected to the main group. Normally I'd dislike this, but I'm a pretty big fan of the dynamic between the main group of friends, so I don't mind it in this case.

Now I'm faced with the question of do I bother trying to get her bad end. When I get the bad end first obviously I immediately go get the good end, but when I get the good end first it's kind of hard to work up the motivation to get the other ending when I can already sort of imagine how it goes.

Coco and Anzu are the only routes I have left now. Coco is probably my least favorite heroine, so I think I might just do Anzu and leave Coco's route undone. I've been wanting to do Anzu's route so badly it's kind of hard to keep waiting anyway.

>> No.17564855

>>17564696
Have you seen Ushio's H scenes? At least half of them have REALLY weird angles. It's like they wanted to show her entire body during the scenes so they end up having H scenes like these:

>https://exhentai.org/s/ed5411263f/1093884-272
>https://exhentai.org/s/e3c7530c76/1093884-336
>https://exhentai.org/s/3f002ddd79/1093884-392

Those 3 are the worst offenders, imo. I really like Ushio and I hate how her H scenes just don't have the "love" the other girls get.

>> No.17564886

>>17564849
>making Ushio the MC's actual onee-san
They would've had to change the story around for that. I actually really like her onee-chan shtick despite them not being related.

Ushio also has a ton of screentime in the beginning before the other heroines join the shop so I felt closer to Ushio than I did Kanon after a few hours of reading.

One of my pet peeves though is how, even after becoming a couple and having sex, the MC and Ushio still refer to each other by their last names - maybe this changes later on, as I'm not very far into her route still. It still annoys me though.

>> No.17564912

>>17564849
After mulling it over I don't think that would work given what the story is trying to tell, having Ushio actually be closely related to the MC would defeat the purpose. Unless it was a very distant cousin or something and they had only met once or twice in the past.

>> No.17564919

>>17564855
I feel like angling was one of the larger issues in general when it came to the H-scenes. That, and the expressions, which felt pretty QUALITY at times. Overall it's still fairly decent for a moege, but that's not saying much since most moege artists are very poor at H-scenes anyway. One thing I really liked was how the genitalia had some actual physics going on with them, in a lot of eroge it feels pretty flat - there's a dick and a vagina there, and they're touching, but it feels lacking in impact (an even better title in this regard is the latest Clochette; Shintaro did an excellent job there). Also it was nice how they implemented some "after-sex" CG which is a bit of a rarity in moege. Specifically thinking of the Raiha scene where she goes down on the protagonist post-sex and cum starts dripping out of her vagina. That was well done. Overall mixed feelings, but there was some good stuff there. I can't help but feel as if Ushio should've been a bit more "spoiling" in the H-scenes. What's the point of having an onee-san that takes it just the same as all the other girls? Like you, I found her H-scenes the most disappointing.

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>>17564919
Speaking of after sex scenes, I thought this scene was downright hilarious. This is only the first pic of 3.

>> No.17564963

>>17564919
>I can't help but feel as if Ushio should've been a bit more "spoiling" in the H-scenes
Exactly! She should've been a bit more dominant and 'spoiling' as you say, befitting her onee-chan status.

Despite the poor-ish quality of Ushio's H scenes I still think her voice acting is the best in the game by far, with Shizuka not far behind. She felt 'genuine' to me with her words and the manner in which she talked and the emotion she brought out. Maybe it's because she's fairly new to this kind of work or something, idk.

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>>17564931
By this point what #3 is should be obvious.

>> No.17565015

>>17564931
That looks like the kind of cg I'd expect to see in a netorare or humiliation game.

>> No.17565024

>>17565015
Now that you mention it, zoom out a bit and have a fat dude's smirking face on it and you'd be looking at an Elf title.

>> No.17565055

>>17565009
This is the last time I visit this thread in public.

>> No.17565060

>>17565055
>エロゲスレ
Why would you visit this thread in public?

>> No.17565176

>>17565055
Just tell your boss or friend that she spilled water on her dress.

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17565373

>>17561899

>> No.17565611

>>17564963
Definitely enjoyed her voice acting. Felt very sincere and endearing to me.

>> No.17565707

I think Ushio's pitch is all wrong desu

>> No.17565716
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>>17562557
I see you're a man of gentlemanly tastes.

>> No.17565720

>>17565716
Tamamo was great, really liked her route's theme, dragged on a bit though. Second best for me.

>> No.17565737 [DELETED] 

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議員 ぎいん
灰皿 はいざら

>> No.17565750
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dumb sharex being dumb and not sending my screenshot to the clipboard

>> No.17565756

If you're stuck on a boat for seven months with no internet, what eroge would you bring with you?

>> No.17565758

>>17565756
It's 2017, why would you get stuck without internet?

>> No.17565928

>>17565756
W.L.O., that way I could still be reading it after I got off the boat.

>> No.17565972

>>17565758
Sevens months on a boat sounds like a Navy post. Considering the majority of VNs only take up like 4-5 gigs you should easily be able to store enough VNs to last 7 months on a 250gb HD, although you'll probably want something besides just VNs for seven months out at sea.

>> No.17565975
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17565975

I've finally reached the promised land, gentlemen.

>> No.17565981

>>17565756
None, because seasickness is a bitch.

>> No.17565984

>>17565758
Oh I mean without Internet for downloading new titles. I can still browse the archives.

>> No.17565988

>>17565984
Well if you have a few days at least, start looking back at old releases either on vndb or omochikaeri~ and see what catches your eye, write a list and get it ready to go.

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17566030

Truly an angel. They don't make imoutos like they used to.

>> No.17566033
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17566033

What popular/highly acclaimed games have upcoming sequels, so you should read them in preparation for when they come out? I know of Sakuuta, Noratoto, Aokana and Rance, are there any others?

>> No.17566092

>>17566033
There's the last Flower game coming out, I guess. Akatoki 2 as well. And not really a direct sequel but Aoi Tori mentions some things that come up in Amatsutsumi so it's probably a good idea to do that beforehand if you haven't already.

>> No.17566105

>>17566033
Taimanin Asagi

>> No.17566151

>>17565750
maybe you unticked it?
Happens to me a couple of times.

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17566252

I'm really enjoying these alternate POV scenes being used so early in the story.

>> No.17566318

>>17566252
That line is so generic I dropped the game without ever having picked it up

>> No.17566391
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17566391

>>17566318

It's a generic moege where routes are like 70% ero. What do you expect?

>> No.17566444

>>17566391
I didn't expect anything, I just dropped it.

>> No.17566570

>>17566391
Raiha and Sasa are so fucking thirsty.

>> No.17566603

>>17566570
Rairai has the best h scenes.

>> No.17566609

>>17566603
No doubt. The only route with 2 ending as well it seems.

>> No.17566794 [DELETED] 

>>17564504
quote unquote EOPs getting the best experience yet again. Sad!

>> No.17566848
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17566848

Wait, did VNDB always have Futura as its main font?

>> No.17566864

>>17566848
Mine don't

>> No.17566914

>>17566848
Mine's still as normal.

>> No.17566943 [DELETED] 

>>17566794
Now this is shit posting.

>> No.17566953

>>17566943

There are actually several English version with better resolution than any JP version out there. Still remains a shitpost though, I guess.

>> No.17567204
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Anyone hyped for binaural audio VN? Voice samples are up on the site and it seems pretty good so far. Big fan of Igasaki Ayaka's voice works.

>> No.17567417

>>17567204
Don't know about this one, but something with well done sound effects instead of bgm or with less bgm at least could be really great I think. Sort of like momoiro code stuff.

>> No.17567448

>>17567204

Probably fairly useless unless it's for suspense/horror works. Who gives a fuck if a girl does her "kyaa ufufu" from the left or right.

>> No.17567506

>>17567417
Here's the link to check out the samples.
http://iyashinomegami.jp/char.html

They're pretty short but the ペロペロ is amazing. If they do actually include environmental effects like in momoiro code, it'll be a kamige.

>>17567448
Binaural audio is much more realistic and feels much more intimate. Mimikaki stuff and whispers to the ear are amazing with binaural as if they're actually beside you.

>> No.17567511

Any otomege/fujoshige actually worth playing as a straight guy?

>> No.17567531

>>17567506
>Mimikaki stuff and whispers to the ear are amazing with binaural as if they're actually beside you.

I'm not into self-insert, so the only thing this'll do is making me cringe super hard.
In addition to that, this would also limit art and whatnot quite a bit, if you wanna be pure PoV. Sprites kinda work normally, but they tend to be fairly generously used, so even if a character is walking "next" to the protag, you still see the sprite as if they stand in front and such. But CG (and ero) tend to not give a damn. Actually kinda funny, with how the protags get written. I don't need to understand this.

>> No.17567543

>>17566391
>where routes are like 70% ero
double dropped

>> No.17567574

>>17566391
>routes are like 70% ero
I hate how this has become a common thing.

>> No.17567577

>>17567511
I liked taishou moebiusline, particularly a couple of routes. It's still extremely female oriented, archetypes and such, but I'd say it's good.

>> No.17567582
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17567582

That feeling when the cheapest cake is 1200 yen but you only have 1300 yen in your wallet. Only a heartless monster would deny their imouto some delicious cake.

>> No.17567592

>>17567582
Of course we can say we'd do it since it isn't our money and we can do it with consequence but when push comes to shove no one would actually spend that much on cake.

>> No.17567601

>>17567592
Your imouto had a bad day anon. You gotta cheer her up somehow. We're not at the point where we can just give her the D.

>> No.17567908 [DELETED] 

>>17563100
Subahibi

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this is too fucking creepy QAQ

>> No.17567990

>>17567977
Leave.

>> No.17567991

>>17567955
That liking girls is for fags.

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17568091

>>17567991

Take this then.

>> No.17568178
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17568178

I want to catch up on the summer that I didn't have
Do you have any recommendations on a heartwarming story? I've recently finished 水平線まで何マイル that's set in summer but I'm looking for something without too much of a plot and mostly just hanging around on the beach or on an island

>> No.17568240

>>17568178
Try この青空に約束を― or あの晴れわたる空より高く.

>> No.17568273

Does anyone happen to have a link to
https://vndb.org/v4968
or
https://vndb.org/v7798
These are written by the Sayooshi guy, but I can't find any serviceable downloads

>> No.17568513

is there a word for where you can see a giant retarded misunderstanding looming in the distance and it's approaching fast but there's nothing you can do but watch as all involved parties blunder straight into it and you sit there gnashing your teeth in impotent frustration as everyone assumes the dumbest possible thing?

it seems like it would be a german word.

>> No.17568517

>>17567531
Even if you put the voice dead center, binaural recording does wonders for clarity and naturalness.

>> No.17568663

Any recommendations for a decent psychological horror like さよならを教えて and C;C?

>> No.17568763
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17568763

Anyone know hook code for 千恋*万花?
I have found one on some korean website but it stopped working halfway in.

>> No.17568778

>>17568763
Save game, close game and ITHVNR, reopen both of them. If you're not using ITHVNR you're hooking wrong. This exact post is the right ITHVNR download: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/forum/hentai-lair/hentai-game-discussion/tools-and-tutorials/411001-ithvnr-ith-with-the-vnr-engine/page11#post5731129 That's post #159.

>> No.17568787

https://vndb.org/v5316
Worth reading?

>> No.17568799

>>17568778
Nevermind, I'm using ITHVNR, but the last few games it was working so well that I totally forgot about putting text speed at max settings.
It's all dandy now, but thanks anyways for trying to help.

>> No.17568818

>>17568799
Well, now it started doubling chars again. It seems I have to go into options and back to the game for it to go back to normal for a while. Really weird.

>> No.17568826

Does anyone know hook codes for KKK?

>> No.17568834

>>17568818
Guess you'll just have to learn Japanese.

>> No.17568839

>>17568787
I haven't read it, but I'm interested in trying it sometime since I've enjoyed some of the writer's other stuff.

>> No.17568844

>>17568834
I'm on it. It's not like I'm machine translating. It's for dictionary lookup. Anyways I just have to go into options every 15 min so I guess it's working.

>> No.17568845

>>17568763
>>17568818
I got it working before by changing the font. The default font doesn't hook well.

>> No.17568896

>>17568845
Thanks! I'll try it out next time it starts repeating.

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17569549

>>17566252
They do use PoV scenes quite a bit in mashimaro, and it is indeed nice to be able to get a glimpse at how that heroine thinks. They even use PoV in heroine routes as well, not just the common route.

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17569558

>>17569549

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>>17569558
last one
>>17566391
yeah, i wish there was more ichaicha sol in mashimaro. once you enter a girl's route and reach the H it really does go into overdrive, with only a small gap in between the end of one H scene and the lead up to another. i've heard kanon's route has more story+plot focus. can't be helped, i guess

>> No.17569652

>>17567574
I, for one, welcome our moege-cum-nukige Gods.

>> No.17569699

This video uses a few extended versions of the animated mecha parts of Baldr Sky's OPs (spoilers in the video obviously) https://youtu.be/_0STaH6cEdI?t=166
Does anyone know where they're originally from? Wasn't able to find them through google and none of the PVs I've seen have them. I haven't played DiveX yet, does it have an extra movie viewing mode with the full versions or something?

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H-hnngg

>> No.17569756

>>17569743
The way she got jealous when she thought the protagonist had a girlfriend was top kawaii

>> No.17569809

>>17568663
ChronoBox

>> No.17569898

Recently started trying to get into VNs to help with my vocabulary. I've tried Popotan and Mebae (Tanuki Soft) so far. Popotan was decent. I'll probably go back to try some other routes but Mebae was kind of shit.

It's a bit overwhelming how much there is out there.

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17570008

Does anyone has a KKK H-code? I've basically searched anywhere and got nothing.

>> No.17570029

>>17568273
both on clubbox

>> No.17570120

>>17570008
Dunno what's h-code or whatever, but if you need a crack here it is.

http://www28.zippyshare.com/v/qHyf4qaX/file.html

>> No.17570216

>>17570120
Why are you replying to a spammer?

>> No.17570250

>>17569756
Her voice actress is really good, holy shit.

>> No.17570254

>>17570216
Not him not everybody visits these threads daily.

>> No.17570271

>>17570254
Well, now you know to ignore him.

>> No.17570290

>>17570250
It's a damn shame she quit. Guess it must've been paying for her college or something as she only worked for a little bit more than 4 years.

>> No.17570291

>>17570290
Huh. Too bad.

>> No.17570296

>>17570291
Yeah if you check her twitter someone has been posting on it infrequently (latest post May of this year) and the profile is still Emi themed from Tsuushinbo, which is nearly 2yrs old now.

Lately as time goes on I've become more and more fond of the 'industry newbies', compared to the veterans who I've heard voice the same characters over and over with different hair/eyes/outfits/tits.

>> No.17570299

>>17570296
Perhaps it's her lack of experience which made her seem more genuine, but this is honestly one of the more convincing loli roles I've heard. Also damn erotic moans.

>Lately as time goes on I've become more and more fond of the 'industry newbies', compared to the veterans who I've heard voice the same characters over and over with different hair/eyes/outfits/tits.
The same. I'm especially tired of hearing Misono Mei and Mizusawa Kei.

>> No.17570317

>>17570120
I got it run actually. Just need me a hook code to look up unknown words in the game, since ITHVNR needs those for malie engine it seems. Masada games are too intimidating for me to tackle without those.

And yeah I didn't notice someone asked this before me.

>> No.17570335

>>17569652

It's not nukige though. Marshmallow just spends all its time on porn, but doesn't actually try to offer good one. In fact, you just fall asleep, because NOTHING HAPPENS.
See, a normal eroscene tends to have around 10kb writing for each unique CG. Once you get past that, it tends to get ugly. Also usually at most 2 are in a scene for a total of 20kb. That's about 20-30 minutes of "ahn". That's alright.
In marshmallow you have at least 20kb for ONE CG. And it's not that much more is "happening" than in other eroge, obviously. And they don't come alone. Scenes can have up to 3 CG, although 2 are more normal. Still. Even two can be 60 minutes of moaning, while 3 is movie length ero! Without anything else. Just moaning and you typical ero dialogue and narration.

Not even position or situation-wise it can really be considered particularly good, probably even somewhat below average judging from the general complaints that came up here lately. So, it's a moege that simply spends an extreme amount of text on its porn that's barely moege average, but for nukige simply miserable. And I don't think this is the way to go. If they want this amount of ero text, add the necessary CG and whatnot as well. But then you are... a nukige. DUH.

>> No.17570348

>>17570335
Sounds like a shame. Some of the heroines are cute enough but by the sounds of it I would not be a fan of the game as a whole.

>> No.17570353

>>17570317
Well friend, try using the Korean version of ITHVNR. Or the Pre8r version linked above.

Or learn Japanese, that's always a good choice. For some reason less and less people here seem to do it.

>> No.17570366

>BALDR BRINGER Hotdogger Edition
What does 'Hotdogger' mean in this context?

>> No.17570368

>>17570366
Read a Baldr game and find out.

>> No.17570373

>>17570366

Gay edition. Get the Macaron Edition instead.

>> No.17570403 [DELETED] 

Does Atlas come in 64-bit form, or does it only work on 32-bit systems?

>> No.17570414

>>17570335
Most of the H scenes in mashimaro aren't THAT long, except for that one H scene (2 of the 4 routes I've read thus far have it, so I'll assume it happens to every girl) where the couple bang all night and only end in the morning. The average isn't nearly as long though, but still longer than average, though not by too much.

>> No.17570427

>>17570414
I think what really makes the H seem longer than normal is how back2back they get once you reach the post-confession part of a girl's route. At that point it seems like each post-H scenes are just setting up for the next H scene to occur.

>> No.17570557

>>17570414
>>17570427

I've only played Sasa's route and I actually measured them. Her route has a good 200kb in ero. 10 hcg. So provided the other routes aren't largely different than hers, it's how I said it. Usually this stuff is fairly similar though. (i.e. it's not one scene/CG that blows Sasa's stuff out of proportion, they are all pretty similar)

And yeah, I've measured this in other games as well. Sometimes I'm just interested in how much ero there is compared to the rest of a route. And this was on of those cases. And to give another game with fairly similar ero-content (10hcg, 4 heroines in the routes, let's ignore the omakes) as an example : Natsu no Iro no Nostalgia. 330k ero text, for all of it together. Which is btw. pretty much 25% of that game.

>> No.17570571

About to start Phantom of inferno but I got the 2013 remake.
How much did they change? If its just removed hscenes and worse art I don't mind.

I'd get the first version but it isn't voiced.

>> No.17570588

>>17570571
Either get the Phantom Integration PC version (best, but unvoiced) or emulate the PS2 version (also good, voiced). Voices aren't really needed imo but both of those are fine.
The remake has parts of the scenario rewritten (by people that aren't Urobuchi) and is adjusted to the anime version.

>> No.17570594

>>17570588
Thanks. Any idea where I can get the ps2 iso?

>> No.17570606

>>17567448
I do.

>> No.17570612

>>17570557
I guess that 70% number was pretty accurate then.

>> No.17570648

>>17570414
which 2? I did Ushio and Raiha, they both had the long ass all night h scenes.

>> No.17570850

>>17569699
Nevermind, I found out that they're from the DiveX ED.

>> No.17570865

>>17568663
Carnival, Kurai Nichiyoubi, Fairytale Requiem

>> No.17571035

>>17570648
>Ushio and Raiha
Those are the two I was talking about, I figured if those two had 'em then Sasa and Kanon probably do as well.

>> No.17571069

>>17571035

Sasa's first time is 3 cg, so it's.. long.

>> No.17571158

Hello friends.

Is there a translation to this particular vn?
https://vndb.org/v5706

If there isn't, looks like I should start studying Japanese.

>> No.17571163

>>17571158
The very link you posted tells you that information.

>> No.17571166

>>17571158
No.

You could read that with relative ease after several months of studying.

>> No.17571172

>>17571163
>>17571166
alright, thank you anons.

>> No.17571232

>>17571158
Why that game in particular?

>> No.17571242

>>17571158
The MC is so generic he puts normal generic Mcs to shame

>> No.17571266

>>17571232
I kinda liked the anime associated with it, one of my friends recommended it to me.

>> No.17571359

>>17571158
>https://vndb.org/v5706
It's shit. Don't bother.

>> No.17571479

>>17571266
In general, console VNs that are spinoffs of popular animes never get translated.

>> No.17571911

Should I read Twinkle Crusaders on PC or PSP?

>> No.17571941

>>17571911
Consoles dont have hentai scenes

>> No.17571945

>>17571911
You'd only be getting one third of the エロゲ experience

>> No.17571973

>>17571911
Do you hate your dick or what?

>> No.17572018

>>17569756
>The way she got jealous when she thought the protagonist had a girlfriend was top kawaii
this literally happens in every fucking moege lmao

>> No.17572027

>>17571941
>>17571945
>>17571973
So the PSP version, thanks.

>> No.17572039

>>17571266

If you learn some Japanese, this'll become hell. There are too many spinoff games, or LN that never get adapted fully even though they are pretty damn good and so on and so forth. Very little translated. Especially if your taste isn't super mainstream.

I mean, look at me, I just started Summon Night 1 (DS remake), an rpg series mostly unknown in the west, where 5 was the first that got translated. (in a so shitty way it's better to be ignored..) But hey, the swordcraft spinoff games localized by Atlus way back then for GBA were quite fun... so here I am. Doing dumb things. It's a fairly interesting srpg as well, including getting extra stuff for playing the game hardcore. (no deaths allowed, level restriction, at most 6 items in a single battle..)

>> No.17572055

>>17572039
>no deaths allowed, level restriction, at most 6 items in a single battle
Is it your own handicap you put yourself into or a preset difficulty with such conditions?

>> No.17572063
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I get what you guy swere saying about KAna earlier, she's a pretty fun character. It helps that her VA is really nice too.

>> No.17572067

>>17571941
>>17571945
>>17571973
I'm only asking because the PSP port has added content. I've seen people here recommend Daitoshokan and Oretsuba on Vita for the same reason.

>> No.17572132

>>17572067
I haven't played the PSP port myself, but it supposedly has one completely new character heroine with a route and an existing side character gets herself a route. However the new heroine doesn't come up in the fan disc or its main plot at all (not even a mention IIRC), but the promoted side heroine gets herself an extra after story in the fan disc.

>> No.17572255

>>17572055

Preset for each battle. The level rises obviously and it seems like you can see it before every battle. The rest should be static, as it doesn't say anything specific there.

I also think that you don't need to level characters if you don't want to. You get exp at the end and distribute it as you wish, but can only do so as long as the character levels. (i.e. if you have 300 exp left, but every character needs more, you can no longer distribute any) I THINK you keep that exp and it carries over, though I'm not a 100% on that, as I only played 3 maps so far. I also don't know if summons count. They don't count towards the character limit of a battle I think, but...
Regardless, it's quite nice as you can use your characters without looking at "who to give exp" and such things freely as well. And you could still use free maps to collect money or simply play them once.


That said, story is fairly thin + normal and all the choices probably matter little. A nice little touch is the choice between 4 protags (2guys+2girls). And there are probably a decent amount of character endings to get as well. I've heard the newer games have more story, but I don't really know. I'm going pretty blind into this, so I have no idea what's gonna be what.

>> No.17572266

>>17572055
>>17572255

Oh wait, if you mean if you can make it so you are forced to abide to these conditions: No, it's optional. You have to take care of not getting past 6 items yourself. (dying is obvious)

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>>17571035
Can confirm Kanon also has all night long H scene. I heard this was a something Marmalade always does with their games. Her route has significantly more story (maybe 60%) before getting into the H. Once you do, they're quite closely spaced until you reach the end.

Only have Sasa left before I'm done with Mashimaro. Really like those title screen poses for the girls and how they unlock after you finish their route (and also for their 2 extra after story h scenes too).

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>>17572337
This sort of pacing is what makes me wish routes started way earlier on. That since it basically boils down to a choose your own heroine game, I wish we'd get to make that choice a lot earlier on.

You could space out the porn a lot better. You could avoid having to pull all these bullshit contrived reasons why the two have been interacting for weeks/months and only just now realize they want to rub their genitalia together. You wouldn't have to cram all the drama in between the sex in the last hour of the game.

On the other hand I think the desire to see x girl naked is a major motivating factor to keep reading in these sorts of games so you'd have to, I dunno, put in an actual plot, or write an interesting heroine or something to compensate.

>> No.17572389

>>17564472
What game?

>> No.17572400

>>17572362

More than 3 eroscenes in a route are gonna be hard, outside of nukige. If you'd care about them AND care about the rest as well.

I'm still thinking a good solution would simply to add some freakin' choice to the ero. It's not that farfetched. There are choices in the game. How about an actual choice in regards to ero? Obviously people are still gonna collect them all at some point, but that way you don't need to worry about how you can get a ton of ero into one route and can simply offer a more personalized experience.
I'd kinda want that with heroine routes in general anyway. How come there is never choices for different kinds of relationships? Maybe you want to be the more timid guy who gets spoiled? Or maybe you'd rather spoil the girl? People are different. It's not just about which pair of breasts. But maybe that's too much to ask for with eroge. Just make this weird middle ground with a soulless protagonist.

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>>17572362
With Mashimaro, you also get 2 choices in common route to hang out with the girl of your choice before finally deciding which route to take and some of the character development happens in common route as well since it's quite lengthy.

>>17572400
Adding a choice to the ero would be nice, but it's also an extra cost for additional H scenes and voice acting. Yuzusoft games like Senren Banka kinda do this by letting you choose if you want to do anal or not.

>> No.17572439

>>17572400
I really don't know. My best guess is the over-patronizing opinion that the eroge fanbase hates change of any kind, and the devs are afraid to change anything as well because the paying customer base is both tiny and obsessed. So we'll forever keep getting the same shit but more. Better quality art but still the same one awkwardly tilted CG per 3 hours of reading.

>> No.17572458

>>17572439
That opinion sounds pretty reasonable. One can only hope for change.

>> No.17572486

>>17572362
What game is this from?

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>>17572429
That's true, but it's relatively common to get to hang out with your girl of choice more in the common routes. I wish they'd let you cement your relationship early on. Especially with the type of girl who is 一目惚れ with the MC, and you have to just kind of wait impatiently through hours of reading and weeks in-game before you can finally respond to it.

There's a joke "ending" in Tojita Sekai no Tori Colony where the MC asks out a transfer student on her first day in, she happily accepts, he confesses his love, she does back, and it escalates into them yelling out WE'RE GETTING MARRIED in the middle of class less than a minute after meeting each other. And then they do get married. And it's fucking great. It's more of a joke thing, but that kind of love at first sight stuff is super cute.

>> No.17572511

So on a similar note to the ero quantity discussion, what are some good moege that *don't* fall into the trap of filling the routes with way too much porn / really long H scenes? How do you tell reliably without looking up the CG set?

>> No.17572520

>>17572486
Right there in the top left.

>> No.17572527

>>17572511
By looking at ratings and reading reviews.

>> No.17572543

>>17572520
What are you trying to imply here?

>> No.17572574

>>17572543
That is an implications-free post. I leave the title in most of my screenshots because a) it's helpful and b) I'm a lazy fuck. we just had a bunch of text hooker related posts, let's not drag the conversation back there again.

>> No.17572576

>>17572500
>but that kind of love at first sight stuff is super cute.

Hm. Yeah. Well. Kinda of a weird example. A really really weird example.

>> No.17572591

>>17572511

One easy way is to simply ditch all games released within the last 5-10 years. I've actually read 15year old game with a plot and whatnot that'd be a "high sexual content" type game today. And let's just say, that game has less porn than moege nowadays. Most scenes are very short. VERY short. So obviously, there's gotta be something else, right?

>> No.17572638

>>17572574
I see, thanks. Sorry for thinking bad of you.

>> No.17572642

>>17572576
It's the only similar thing I could think of, to be honest. Something closer would be like Momiji from Fortissimo if they actually let you say "yeah sure you're cute let's date" right after the first fight, instead of "mmm i dunno let me put your feelings on hold for a bit while i procrastinate".

>> No.17572732

>>17572642

But even that is a weird example. Both didn't fall in love at first sight at all. In Momiji's case she's actually just so proactive, because she didn't act in the past and regrets it. I suppose she isn't aware that she ended up crushing on the same guy, but yeah.
And Tojita Sekai Is just overall too weird. The war going on there and everything just makes these loops into something utterly different.


Love at first sight isn't too weird. Happens in Dokodona for example, even though there's a "reason" there as well. But it's definitely true first sight. You just gotta be careful, otherwise your eroge is over in 10 minutes.

>> No.17572743

>>17572732
Monarchy is the ancient regime that has been proven factually to be the correct system.

>> No.17572753

>>17572732
That's because I don't have anything better to give as an example because there's no good examples (that I've found). Hence my bitching.

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17572796

>>17572511
To be honest, I don't find ero to be much of an issue, unless they're placed at awkward times and breaks the flow of the story. If they're all loaded near the end, I can just ctrl and come back to them later which isn't a big deal. Personally, I would much rather have long H scenes than short ones that finish too quickly.

>>17572439
A bigger issue for me is the lack of non ero CGs, and prominent side characters with no sprites. Only Kanon has an animated part in Mashimaro.

>> No.17572904

>>17572362
>This sort of pacing is what makes me wish routes started way earlier on. That since it basically boils down to a choose your own heroine game, I wish we'd get to make that choice a lot earlier on.
That would actually be really nice if it happened but probably a double edged sword. Shorter common route means less character interaction typically, and less time to get to know the heroines. However, the long common route is so entrenched into VNs nowadays that it would be hard to break the mold reliably; after all, eroge developers use this formula for a reason.

>>17572400
>I'm still thinking a good solution would simply to add some freakin' choice to the ero. It's not that farfetched. There are choices in the game. How about an actual choice in regards to ero?
Again, this would be nice if done properly, but for the most part the only ero choice you get is the old inside/outside choice. Personally, I wish we had a little choice in say, the sexual positions. Obviously this would be a lot of extra work but it would be a very nice touch. The Cation series (an oldschool style 'modern' dating sim) kinda sorta does this with 'unlockable' outfits for certain heroine H scenes that you typically buy.

At this point though making eroge has refined itself to the point where we get such formulaic stuff pumped out en masse.

Also, has anyone here tried the latest Softhouse Chara game? Normally I like their games, despite being cheap pieces of shit, because of the gameplay, but this game looks especially cheap and filler-ish. This is the one: https://vndb.org/v21466

>> No.17572920

>>17572796
You know, that webm would be a lot funnier if it had a textbox at the bottom that read "FOUUUND YOUUUU!" near the end, plus photoshopping a mostly hidden knife behind her back. It would make a nice constrast with the sakura petals and bright colors and her huge smile.

>> No.17572944

>>17572904
>less time to get to know the heroines
Do we really need this? So much time, I mean. For most things you can tell right from the character design what type of girl they're going to be, and they do this on purpose. There's always variations, but they're on a theme, not usually major ones. And they always save the big archtype-busting revelations for after you've chosen a route so that's not an issue either.

The less character interaction just brings me to a different gripe, which is that everyone else disappears after you get onto the character route, which is lame. The girl who got picked lording it over the others who didn't is my fetish and there's never enough of this.

>> No.17572953

So I just installed ITHVNR and my firewall (ZoneAlarm) keeps auto-deleting vnrhook.dll Is there a way for it to not treat it as an std? Or is there another option? Right now my plan is just to just extract it from the zip while I momentarily turn my firewall off whenever I want to load a VN which seems to work.

>> No.17572960

>>17572429
You know what annoyed me the most about Mashimaro? How Kanon basically guilt tripped MC-kun into going back to school. For once we had a MC who wasn't doing the school grind and was dedicating himself to his work, but nooo, Kanon wants Miyahara-kun to have a fulfilling school life! Even though once he's back in school barely anything changes except there's some filler school scenes and a few nameless side characters add commentary, like >>17569573

Like seriously, what was the point of him going back to school at all? This was another wasted potential imo, they should have made him a ronin or something, ANYTHING.

>> No.17572967

>>17572944
The cast is actually still quite relevant in mashimaro during the character routes too which is a pretty nice touch. One of the best parts is seeing their reactions to the couple.

>> No.17572969

>>17572953
This isn't the thread for this, friend. Try the VNTL thread down the hall and to the left.

>> No.17572981

>>17572953
Ah whoops, wasn't sure which one. Cheerio.

>> No.17572987

>>17572960

Welcome to eroge expectations. It's retarded. It's useless. But you gotta have a school. Someone even posted something about Chrono Box's author here, where he said how shit just needs a school, and how he'd rather write stuff without one... at least once in a while. As such, Chrono Box has a school as well.

That said, I think you can do without, but the problem is really the fear.
Sales bad? Didn't you say "let's not do school"? I'm sure with a school we would've sold tenfold! Everyone does it for a reason after all!

>> No.17572988

>>17572967
argh quit trying to sell me on this, i'm just gonna end up sexually frustrated and ctrling through half the common route so i can see rairai's tits, jerk off exactly once, and then uninstall once the sage time wears off and the shame and general what-the-fuck-am-i-doing-with-my-life time kicks in

>> No.17572998

>>17572988
Get a savedata, fap when you need to to her scenes then go back to it.
It works, kinda.

>> No.17573014

>>17572944
>Do we really need this?
Apparently the Elevens think so, they eat this shit up. And that's whose opinion matters in the end, as much as it pains me.

>>17572944
>which is that everyone else disappears after you get onto the character route, which is lame.
Spot on, though I will say this seems to be far more pervasive in moege compared to say, charage where cast interaction tends to still be somewhat common even after you enter a route.

>>17572944
>The girl who got picked lording it over the others who didn't is my fetish and there's never enough of this.
The reason they don't do this often is because it makes the girl seem like a bitch, and Elevens would rather have a submissive moeblob over a semi-realistic depiction of a female. Can you blame them, though? Real life eroge situations are pretty damn unrealistic; there's no way a bunch of girls, all competing for the same guy, would act so friendly and cordial with each other. When in reality they'd be jealous, start petty squabbles, spread rumors, form cliques, bully lower ranked females, etc etc. Elevens, of course, don't want to pay to read about girls like these, even if it makes them seem human. So now we end up in the situation where the MC has no male friends, all the girls love him but never fight amongst themselves, and the only couple allowed is MC+heroine.

>> No.17573039

>>17572998
but i'm gonna end up skipping half the preamble so i might as well just look at the CG sets but that never does anything for me because then i don't have the context but i'm skipping half the context anyway because it's really not that interesting but it's necessary to make the fap work but i kinda want to do it anyway because she looks right up my alley but i know already i'm just going to end up disappointed and feeling like i wasted my time

wow, when i re-read that i sound pretty neurotic, huh.

>> No.17573046

>>17572988
Rairai's impreg scene is pretty damn hot.

>> No.17573053

>>17573039
>then i don't have the context
Mc and heroine are raburabu, that's all the context you need for these games.

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>>17572967
>The cast is actually still quite relevant in mashimaro during the character routes too which is a pretty nice touch.
Ehh, yes and no. Early on in the girl's route - pre confession, I'll agree with you. But post-confession the other girls get less and less screentime except to show up and say things like "so jealous~" at the lovey dovey couple

>> No.17573063

>>17572944
>The less character interaction just brings me to a different gripe, which is that everyone else disappears after you get onto the character route, which is lame.

I'll expand on this and say in my opinion this is lame only when the heroines are all frequently around in the common route. If they're around all the time and suddenly disappear when you go on someone else's route, then that is kinda lame. I make that distinction because occasionally you'll find a game where one or multiple heroines aren't well connected to the others, and thus them not being present at all once the MC hooks up with another girl does not feel unnatural.

>> No.17573085

>>17573014
I'm well aware I'm in minority here even on the western side but I like bitchy, selfish girls. Only in 2D but that should go without saying. I like it when they fight over a guy because it means they like him enough not to care about whether or not they're seen as a good girl. Guess I should rephrase that, I like it when they're bitchy to others. I like it when they fight amongst themselves over him because it means he's something worth fighting for. BUT I know that's not something most people - especially the nips - like so I don't complain much about it not showing up.

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>>17573062
Yeah after confession they show up less, but are still around. In Kanon's route, they're still quite relevant to the story though.

>>17573039
Half the fun is the banter and teasing that goes on with Rairai and the MC, which leads to a bigger payoff.

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>>17572944
>girl who got picked lording it over the others who didn't
I fucking love how jealous Kanon gets at times in the routes of other girls. That early necktie scene with Ushio is still one of my favorite scenes.

>> No.17573099

>>17573063
Aye, I knew what you meant. I have no problems with that either. There's also the games where there's a clear plot-related main heroine and when you pick someone else, she goes and disappears because you found someone else. That's also a-okay.

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>>17573086
Yeah, I still haven't gotten around to Kanon's route yet, letting my loins recover first. I'm not usually into loli but Ushio sure did scratch my itch. I guess because she doesn't act like your stereotypical loli.

This is a bit of a spoiler but I'd like to know (about Kanon route), someone posted a pic of her in a wedding dress a couple threads ago, do they end up married?

Also this pic is the necktie scene I was talking about above.

>> No.17573113

>>17573086
banter and teasing and then sex is all i want out of this, the other 5 gb i don't want or need. but god dammit she's cute and i hate it.

>> No.17573122

>>17573086
>>17573090
>>17573110
Disgusting art style.

>> No.17573126

>>17573046
One of the best scenes.

>> No.17573131

>>17573122
Disgustingly cute? Agreed, this game features weapons-grade moe.

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>>17573110
This pic is from wedding photoshoot advertisement for their store.

>> No.17573137

>>17573122
The coloring is kinda crap, I agree, focuses too much on being shiny and the yellowish skin looks like shit.

>> No.17573139

>>17573122
I'm not a fan of the blonde girl but I really like the looks of the others. Generally my art tastes seem to be weird based on comments here though.

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>>17573134
Aww, so that's all it was? Lame. So that means Rairai got a 'better' ending than Kanon. Poor girl can never catch a break.

Also I found it weird how Rairai's Finnish dad is named Jake and speaks English like he's an American/English/etc. I guess they wanted a different foreigner than normal, but not too different.

>> No.17573168

>>17573151
I'm more weirded out by his lack of eyeballs.

>> No.17573189

>>17573151
>taimu izu manii
>aruweizu bii kurozingu
>gureedo izu guudo
>sho mee da manii

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>>17573168

>> No.17573212

>>17573151
Well, she did get a pseudo proposal scene.

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>>17573085
This is also my fetish. Unfortunate that few others feel the same way.

I at least wish there were more room for heroines that aren't strictly saccharine lawful-good girls who are nice to everybody. I loved Ami from Semiramis no Tenbin for example, but it seems she rubbed a lot of people the wrong way because she doesn't behave like a "proper" eroge heroine.

>> No.17573246

>>17573229
She's the whole reason to read it, wish the MC ever got to her level.

>> No.17573267

>>17573229
Huh, I thought about trying that one back when it came out but never got around to it. Maybe I'll give it a shot. I'd settle for even chaotic good, it seems like all we ever end up getting is lawful alignments. Though a proper lawful evil could be great.

I know it's partially a cultural thing but the degree of insistence on social obligations and rules by porn powerpoint characters is downright baffling to me. You've already made up a situation where realism is the barest of afterthoughts. Live a little. Break some rules.

>> No.17573279

>>17573229
>Ami from Semiramis no Tenbin
>personality: haraguro, manipulative
>engages in: blackmail, bullying, drugging, etc etc
Yeah, that is definitely not your usual eroge heroine. She does look interesting though, time to add another game to my backlog.

>> No.17573294

>>17573279
Her personality becomes pretty clear after her first sex scene one hour into the game where she takes rapey pictures of her and the MC to blackmail him because she needs a place to live free of potential rape, being cool with casual sex with him otherwise.

>> No.17573298

>>17573267
I'd pin her as more of a chaotic-neutral. In any case, she's great, highly recommended if you're into not-nice girls.

>> No.17573302

>>17573229
>I at least wish there were more room for heroines that aren't strictly saccharine lawful-good girls who are nice to everybody
I feel the same way. I know the Japanese value harmony and all, but having a cast where 4/5ths of the heroines are all sugar+spice really does get on my nerves. Unfortunately, sugar+spice sells, considering the amount of moege that gets pumped out every year.

>> No.17573336

>>17573302
>sugar+spice
Thanks, I had almost forgotten that bgm

>> No.17573345
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>>17573302

Hapymaher still sold alright though I think. Got a fandisc too, even with its plot and recycling issues. And that game was pure "the girls aren't that nice". Sure, they aren't evil, but they don't shy away from pointing out flaws or trying to get ahead here or there. It's essentially one of those games that shows quite nicely how not very fun a harem is.

Though if you really wanna get some different kind of harem... Tojita Sekai no Tori Colony. I know I recommended this already what.. a year ago? But that one is quite nice if you get sick of the "usual eroge harem". It's such a shame that its author hasn't written anything alone ever again. The EGS rating of that isn't bad either, so it's not like it wasn't liked... by those few who actually played it. And managed to get past the big big... chapter 2? I think it was 2. The one where you'll literally get asked if you want to advance once you've cleared all the necessary stuff in it, as there's a good amount more as well... mostly for jokes and to fulfill another kind of "sick of usual eroge" : Not enough choices or freedom.

>> No.17573347

>>17573302
>when the text says 修羅場 but it's at MOST one girl comically pouty or maybe an angry jiiii~
I want to see blood, god-dammit.

>>17573298
Duly noted, appreciate it.

>> No.17573351

>>17573302
I wish heroines had actual spice to them, they're basically 9/10 sugar.

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>>17573345
>It's such a shame that its author hasn't written anything alone ever again.
Christ, this. I tried 1/7 Mahoutsukai but it was unmitigated crapola, they had the guy from Koiken Otome doing terribly dry and awful magic infodumps every couple of minutes and all the best girls weren't heroines. When I found out you couldn't even date the imouto (I was a fool to hope for another Korone) I dropped it on the spot.

Real shame, I loved everything about tori colony, it was all the things I wanted from eroge that I usually only complain about the lack of.

>> No.17573384

>>17573347
>I want to see blood, god-dammit.
But you see blood everytime you have the first H scene with a girl! What more could you ask for, period sex?

Speaking of which, I don't think I've ever seen a VN actually bring up periods or period sex other than a passing 'why is she acting so weird? it can't be helped, must be "that" time of the month.

>> No.17573394

>>17573384
I mostly only see periods being brought up in the context of how a given heroine hasn't started having them yet...

>> No.17573401

>>17573394
Actually now that I remember it, in Tanukisoft's latest lolige there is actually a CG where you can see period blood on a heroine's pantsu.

>> No.17573408

>>17573401
pls no

>> No.17573411

Are periods even real? As in do real girls actually have them or is it just an eroge thing?

>> No.17573414

>>17573411
i hope this is a joke

>> No.17573415

>>17573411
If she can bleed, she can breed.

>> No.17573416

>>17573384
It's happened once or twice in some of the things I've read but none really stick out. I'm honestly surprised it's not a fetish thing considering everything else that gets fetishized. Or maybe it does and I just don't know about it. Do the nips not know about riding the red tide?

>>17573394
That, uh. That one's on you, buddy.

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Emi, no, you're going to get your onii-chan arrested.

>> No.17573447

>>17573432
He should be arrested

>> No.17573456

>>17573414
I'm being serious.
>>17573415
This doesn't answer my question.

>> No.17573461

>>17573447
He's actually much more tolerable than most lolige protagonists.

>> No.17573500

>>17573456
Google can help you out here.

>> No.17573503

>>17573416
>I'm honestly surprised it's not a fetish thing considering everything else that gets fetishized. Or maybe it does and I just don't know about it
I've seen it pop up as a fetish in one or two Clock Up titles. I'm sure it happens in other nukige as well.

>> No.17573522

>>17573503
Ah, alright. I've never seen it pop up but I suppose it probably falls more under the extreme stuff, so you'd never see it in something that wasn't already a fetish game.

>> No.17573548

>>17572400
I think the best thing to do is to put 2-3 H-scenes in the heroine's story and add the rest as optional extra scenes that are unlocked and read from the title screen.

That way you get the feeling of progress and intimacy that comes with the build-up to H-scenes in the story, but they don't clog up the route too much and the hornier players still get the high quantity of ero that they want.

>> No.17573567

>>17573461
Nothing worse than when they're cringy, smelly fat dudes. Damn, Tsuushinbo is great on all points. They need to announce a new title soon.

>> No.17573587

>>17573567
Here's hoping they bring santa back as the artist too. Did Tsuushinbo sell well? I know santa is a fairly popular artist.

>> No.17573609

>>17573548

Too much like that can be bad though, as progression ero can be more valuable, as you are in the story. That's.. kinda the appeal of ero in not nukige anyway. Which is why I'd just have options.
Like a handjob or blowjob? Doggy or cowgirl? And the leftover stuff gets into the extra menu as well. Done. That way you can have 4-6 hcg in the main-story and another 4-6 you get via extra menu as "not chosen" stuff, if you still care. So depending on how much the producers want, you still have the same 8-12 hcg per girl and the same amount of text and everything.

More often than not, I doubt people would even care about what'd be left over. Everyone has their preferences, and unless it's a girl they REALLY like, barely anyone would use all the scenes, or even close to all of them. The reason why there's a lot is mostly just variety. Technically even just 2 eroscenes could be enough, if they are really good. But everyone just likes different stuff, even for vanilla. So you gotta cover the 7-8 basic positions and a bunch of situations already, so people aren't disappointed because their favorite stuff isn't there. (i.e. imagine no blowjob. I don't care about them as I think 99% of eroge blowjobs sound horrible to the point it's more funny than anything else, but there are many liking them and they'd be disappointed. Same goes for doggy. For cowgirl. I'd also argue for sitting giving its intimacy and easiness for kisses and lot's of hugging. The first time deflowering, usually missionary. And so on.)

>> No.17573667
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>>17573609
>The first time deflowering, usually missionary.
mfw Kanon's first time is doggy

>> No.17573669

>>17573587
I'm not sure if it sold well but I hope so. It's a shame, since I don't buy too much eroge, but I would have bought that one if I had known of it when it came out. I'd definitely buy their next title if it was a similar style game.

As for santa, does he/she do anything outside of the eroge world? Like on pixiv or any doujin circles or something? I really love that art but it seems tsuushinbo is the only eroge he did.

>> No.17573688
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>>17573669
https://twitter.com/kinsanta
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=73381
https://exhentai.org/tag/artist:santa

His waifu is Monkey from Amagami and it's actually how I discovered his art. Tsuushinbo was his debut eroge.

>> No.17573731

>>17573688
Brilliant. Thanks anon. Hopefully we see more from him in eroge soon.

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So I realized that AkaSaka's 10 year anniversary had happened earlier this year and I was looking at Feng's site and noticed that there's still just a teaser site for their 8th title that was announced in 2012 or 2013. Feng used to be one of my favorite brands so it would be nice to hear some news or something about it especially since the Seiiki series seems like it's more or less been wrapped up for now.

>> No.17574055

>still no 手垢塗れの堕天使 crack
The first game was cracked in a day,I am sad.

>> No.17574299

>>17574055
>that train scene in the 1st one
I wonder if this new one has anything like that.

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Does anyone have the いろとりどりのミライ LN that comes with the いろとりどりのセカイ WORLD’S END COMPLETE set? I've tried everywhere including share and perfect dark and I can't find it. It's been uploaded to share in the past according to google.

>> No.17574553

>>17573667
thanks for the spoiler, just got to the part where you are blue balled by a phone call from Kanons uncle.... Which is triggering my NTR alarm....(need to stop reading ntr doujin's..)

>> No.17574734

>>17573139
Ushio, kanon and sasa look fine
JC and rairai's proportions are all fucked

>> No.17574736

>>17574734
Rairai's face is just QUALITY

>> No.17574772

>>17573014
Even in western works bitches who pull nasty shit end up facing some kind of retribution down the line. It's universally considered a negative even if it's realistic. Frankly I've seen plenty of enjoyable characters that are neither complete blobs nor forced all the way into the opposite territory. And going out of your way to inject 3dpd tendencies into an escapism medium is a pretty suicidal idea to begin with.

>> No.17574987
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>>17574772
> It's universally considered a negative even if it's realistic.

No need to bring pic related into fiction. If you tell a story, and want it to be good, having an asshole being an asshole for no reason and getting away with it is about as great storytelling as letting the main villain randomly fall down some stairs and break their neck which collapses the evil society while the heroes are still bashing heads with random mugs.
Why write a story if the reader could just read the newspaper? Or go on the street? Well, eroge are minor exceptions, as there's always the "because ero!" answer, but I'm sure there are plenty of nukige with asshole heroines who remain assholes anyway... so yeah.

>> No.17575053

>>17574734
I love JC's design. It's the right kind of excessive cowtits for me.

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>>17575053
I dunno man, look at these big fat tats. They are each nearly the size of her head. I really liked JC's voice though, she really sounded gyaru or whatever with all that slang.

>> No.17575149

>>17575145
I usually don't like big tits but it looks pretty nice on her.

>> No.17575152

>>17575145
i'm ok with the big fat tats, but her haircut and face are ugly

>> No.17575153

>>17574987
Evil characters can be some of the most entertaining ones, though.

>> No.17575170

>>17575149
I like big tits as much as any guy but there comes a point where it becomes too big, imo. I know this is escapism/idealized but still, breasts that huge would be a bitch the girl that has them.

Speaking of this, I wish it was more common if kyonyuu heroines actually commented more about how inconvenient their big fat tats are, e.g. hard to find a bra, shoulders hurt, etc. I know I've seen this brought up a couple times before but it usually gets glossed over.
>>17575152
Yeah gyaru's are pretty hit or miss imo - as a supporting chara she wasn't half bad though. Shizuka > JC for me.

>> No.17575174

>>17575170
gyaru's with bulky and extremely curly hair are the only acceptable kind

>> No.17575187

>>17575174
Those are stale gyaru from the past, this is 2017 where we now have hardworking gyaru with a heart of gold.

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>>17575153

Maybe because it's less common? But an evil character is not inherently better than a "good" character. They both need the same stuff to be actually entertaining.
I at least don't see a difference between a cat kicking villain who does bad things because they are bad, and a superhero who saves people and defeats evil because that's good. Once you add more to it, "evil" is quickly becoming debatable. Or you just have psychos, which is quite possible as well.

>> No.17575195

Has anyone here played 領地貴族? Or is discussion on that more appropriate in the hentai game general in vg?

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Man, that was really sweet. Emi was great. I suppose I'll do Kotone's route next, since I have 0 interest in Nonoka.

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MY DICK

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>>17575204
Goddamn.

>> No.17575265

>>17575198
The only thing that looks mildly interesting about Nonoka, after looking on vndb, is the marriage proposal tag.

>>17575204
>>17575209
Did you like how jealous Kanon got right after that second pic of yours? That was one of my favorite scenes. If you think that's cute though, wait until you reach her route.

How do you like Ushio so far?

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>>17575265
meant to post this as well

>> No.17575276
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>>17575209

>> No.17575277

>>17575265
I like Nonoka's design and all - can't say no to thunderthighs, but her voice-acting and especially the personality kinda put me off. Which is unfortunate. Akeshima Yuuri isn't a bad VA - I've heard her in a few other roles - but she really isn't doing anything for me here. If I had to say what it was, I guess she kinda sounds forced. Maybe it's just me, though.

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>>17575265
>Did you like how jealous Kanon got right after that second pic of yours?
Definitely. Also Ushio is best girl so far, love her sweet voice and maturity. Raiha has lots of potential too.

>> No.17575300

>>17575277
I wouldn't say it's just you but she was my favorite heroine and I loved her voice and droopy aura so I'm here to defend her.

>> No.17575304
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>>17575277
>she kinda sounds forced
Well, she is still pretty new to the industry. Maybe she just hasn't gotten used to it yet. Some newbies seem to do really well compared to others.

I wonder when Marmalade is going to release the results of their 2nd chara poll. Pic is the first one.

>> No.17575313

>>17575300
Fair enough. I'll def give her a shot regardless.

>> No.17575353
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>>17575298
>her sweet voice and maturity
Yeah, for a relative newbie to the voice acting industry, Ushio sounds downright amazing, and dare I say, felt genuine. I'm really glad they gave Ushio a more mature voice, your typical squeaking loli wouldn't have cut it as an onee-chan. And as you say, she definitely acts mature - most of the time. She's bright and cheery almost always but certain things make her go into pouting mode, which is cute in its own way.

Probably my biggest fault with Ushio lies not with her or her character, but with the artists/whoever made her H scenes. They aren't bad per se, but I felt she got shafted compared to the other heroines in regards to the sexual positions her and MC do during sex. Some of Sasa's H scenes, for example, would have been especially erotic with Ushio in them instead - in particular the mating press and sitting/cowgirl positions.

As for RaiRai, one of my favorite things about her was that you can see her panty line on her backward facing sprite when she's in her work clothes, see pic.

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Anyone read ゴールデンアワー? I was checking out the tags on vndb to see if I might enjoy it, and I was shocked to see one of the heroines actually has a boyfriend and cheats on him with MC. I see that this is Niko's first game ever released, but surely they realized this would piss off any potential buyers in Japan? It kinda reminds me of Tamaki from Kakyuusei 2 except she broke up with her bf.

>> No.17575505

>>17575497
Niko is a something or other from More, it's no one's first game there.

>> No.17575515

>>17575497
>but surely they realized this would piss off any potential buyers in Japan?
It's marketed that way. People know about it. Unlike what you're referring to which was not marketed and caught people off guard.

>> No.17575518

>>17575505
Ooh, you're right. I knew the art looked oddly similar to この恋、青春により。, must be the same artist.

>> No.17575523

>>17575515
>It's marketed that way. People know about it.
Really? So are these supposed to be like the 'seinen' version of VNs, where the story is a bit more mature and grounded in reality where things aren't so saccharine?

>> No.17575525

>>17575497
>spoiler
How was her route?
Surely it's not just going to be 'your dick's bigger so I want you instead' route, right?

>> No.17575537

>>17575525
I haven't read it, but I am genuinely interested in it now. Give me a day or three and I'll be able to give you a real opinion on it.

And despite that spoiler she's still a virgin, according to vndb.

>> No.17575543

>>17575497
Her boyfriend is a huge asshole who just wants sex and then go to another women. A plot point in the game is saving her from him. There is no NTR in the game.

>> No.17575549

>>17575537
I'm mostly interested in this title because I stumbled upon the CG gallery on the panda and found the H quite hot. Also, the angles they used for the PoV during the H was atypical. Plus the art has a more realistic vibe to it compared to your average nukige/moege.

Here's an example of a doggystyle scene. I find this to be a lot hotter than how it is usually portrayed: https://exhentai.org/s/a8cc270558/1093348-50

>> No.17575562

>>17575549
jesus christ that cunt is massive

what the hell

>> No.17575564

>>17575549
>>17575562
oh wait, it's just the empty space between him and her ass

and it's colored exactly the same as her skin, and also lined up with her legs. so it unintentionally looks like a gigantic vagina

>> No.17575566

>>17575543
>There is no NTR in the game.
I know I know, I just saw the tag and jumped to conclusions before I saw the virgin sex tag.

If you don't mind me asking, what are your thoughts on the game?

>> No.17575573

>>17575566
I only played the demo but I really loved it. Yuki, the main heroine is pretty unique and the game is worth it just for her. I'll get to the full game soon.

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>>17575573
*blocks your path*

Hey kiddo, you know the drill. Gimme yer lunch money.

>> No.17575596

>>17575543
I'm at the part where her route begins and just started it. Tezuka may be an asshole but he's also such a loser that he never even got a kiss from her. I feel like it'll be revealed that he was only dating her because of his rivalry with Yuuya since she always liked him

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”弁当を食べない”

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>>17575588

>> No.17576031

>>17575928
Ureshino-san is for sex.

>> No.17576076

>>17575928
It's too bad August is shifting into making DMM gacha games.

I doubt they would completely abandon the eroge market but they probably won't put as much care for it anymore like what happened to Eushully or Baseson. ;_;

>> No.17576305

>>17573229
That bad end where she tricked the MC was pretty funny, like a train wreck.

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>>17576076
>August is shifting into making DMM gacha games
Really? That sucks, I've always liked August games, although Senmomo was a let down.

I wonder if FGO's success influenced companies like Eushully (and apparently August) to try the same. Gacha seems like such a sell out though as a consumer, you pay more for far less content. As someone that used to play a gacha mobage (Brave Frontier) I can kinda understand the appeal, but not for a VN related gacha. I'm so glad I got away from those games though, they are a huge money pit and they only seem to stay alive because of high turnover rates and whales.

>> No.17576654

>>17576076
>but they probably won't put as much care for it anymore like what happened to Eushully or Baseson.

Is this a troll post? Gacha games never influenced neither of those two companies. Eushully's games were always like this, and for baseson I literally have no idea what are you talking about.

>> No.17576679

>>17576654
Eushully's newest game has far fewer hscenes and cgs compared to their old games.

Baseson's Kouhime Mousou Remake is just a repackaged version of their old game. They did not bother changing the story or adding new shit like they hinted.

>> No.17576702

>>17576654
>Baseson's Kouhime Mousou Remake is just a repackaged version of their old game. They did not bother changing the story or adding new shit like they hinted.

And how it is related to the gacha games? Their worst series -Appare tenka gomen- was way before the gacha series and they released way more games than they were doing before in last 2-3 years. Also they announced that they are making another game which'll get announced at middle 2018 as well.

+ It was a very well done repacked version, yeah they didn't add too many new scenes or change the outline of story, but in the end it was a nice remake and the last scene of the game hinted that the next route's story will change heavily because of that character.


While I dont play gacha games, for gods sake dont blame every little thing to them. They are literally unrelated, you guys are becoming too paranoid.

>> No.17576705

>>17576702
Meant to quote >>17576679

>> No.17576799

>>17576705
Call me paranoid but they keep releasing new koihime gachashit on DMM on the same timeframe. I'm sure they could use those resources into making proper eroges instead. But since I can't really prove that it's due to gacha I'll concede this one.

But the latest Eushully game's lack of hscenes is definitely gacha's fault. They put most of their artist to work on the Himegari gachashit instead of in their new game.

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>>17576343
I just realized that the cakes get removed at night from their display cases. Nice attention to detail.

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>> No.17576860

>>17576799
I dont really think gacha games need that much "resources" or anything. Its not like you'll need a writer or spend some money on it etc, just some shiny pictures, its all. Considering how baseson's artists draw one random picture ( for example this week's picture was Police uniformed Hina) at every week's P-channel and gives it to one random watcher, I dont really think that its something big enough to use at making proper eroges. Also baseson has at least 10 different artists in their company.

For Eushully, to be honest I didnt play the newest game yet so I cant say anything certain but I didnt see a single complain about lack of h-scenes at EGS. Is there really that much difference between their older games?

Well at least it seems way better than SankaiOu shit.

>> No.17576880

>>17576860
>I dont really think gacha games need that much "resources" or anything.
Look at Type-Moon, they are so far stuck up FGO's gacha ass that the Tsukihime remake is basically HL3 tier at this point. Never ever.

It probably depends on the company, but considering the potential $$$ involved I can see why studios are pumping out gacha. That steady stream of cash is probably mana to eroge developers.

>> No.17576896

>>17576860
It has way less in general as there's one single main heroine, who doens't have as many as in kamidori.
Honestly I was glad because their torrent of porn in it was more annoying than anything.

>> No.17576903

>>17576880
>Look at Type-Moon, they are so far stuck up FGO's gacha ass that the Tsukihime remake is basically HL3 tier at this point. Never ever.

Well typemoon is a special case though, FGO is literally printing the money and other gacha games are not even close to it. I'm pretty sure that those two games cant even make 1/10 of FGO, probably way more less.

>> No.17576917

>>17576903
Even if Eushully's gacha only makes 1/20th of what FGO does, that is still probably a very nice chunk of change for them. The important thing is that the IV drip of money happens over time instead of one big hit after a VN releases.

>> No.17576925
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>>17576850

>> No.17576957

>>17576917
Yep and personally I'm very glad about this. VNs are not selling as good as the older days and companies need some new ways to gain money. As I said above Gacha games' costs seems very little anyway so if they can gain extra money from it and maintain themselves with that help, its a very good thing.

The point is gacha games are not costly & don't need a huge work and as long as its not something enormous as FGO it'll be a side job for eroge companies. Which means they wont get in way of eroges but will make money to the companies.

I'm seeing them as Artbooks or koihime's anthologies for example. You know that koihime has more than 100 volume of anthologies, right? They made so much money for the company as a side job, but never got in the way of eroges.

>> No.17576970

>>17575353
MC checked her out good there, as I would have too. Rairai is soo seductive - the scene here was great.

https://i.imgur.com/LI9Zd8Q.jpg

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>>17576970
>https://i.imgur.com/LI9Zd8Q.jpg
One serving of baby mixpowder coming right up!

>> No.17577484

>>17575145
They also eclipse the size of her neck and limbs. She looks like an anorexic as fuck girl with attached tits of the wrong size. This is why I dislike drawn big tits. The artist is too tunnel visioned on them to notice the whole body collapsing around them.

>> No.17577497

>>17577484
That's what makes it hot, the contrast of big tits to slender waist and figure. Also if you think she looks anorexic... you must be American.

>> No.17577541

>>17577497
That kind of contrast does nothing but hurt the proportions. Big tits should go with big figures and vice versa. Some things are just not worth contrasting. When I look at JC I don't tell myself "mmm that's hot", but "that's disproportionate as fuck", because I look at the whole picture instead of just the vicinity around the tits. I know there's a bit of deformation leeway when it comes to stylized drawings but at some point everybody's bullshit detector ought to go off.

>> No.17577563

>>17577541
Suit yourself. I like the gap.

>> No.17577574

>>17577563
Stop being a faggot.

>> No.17577586

>>17577541
>Big tits should go with big figures and vice versa.
Well I disagree. In the first place I don't want to see those "big figure" female characters in eroge, though I wouldn't mind seeing more characters in the vein of JCs design.

>> No.17577638

>>17576880
The Tsukihime remake was already a fucking meme years ago before FGO was even a thing though, before Mahoyo even.
It's clearly something Nasu doesn't actually want to work on and as a whole he obviously finds Fate much easier to write.

>> No.17577670

>>17577638
More like, he doesnt want to work on anything. He also has said that mahoyo will have two more sequels and they'll get released after the tsukihime remake in 2012.

5 years later and we still dont even have any information about tsukihime remake, let alone mahoyo sequels. Obviously he doesnt care about his works or nasuverse as long as he gets money from somewhere, and FGO is the perfect thing for that. He literally said that he wrote a chapter of FGO in just a day.

>> No.17577707

>>17577670
Well he DID work on Extella and it's getting a sequel, for some reason, which he will probably also write for. I very much doubt Extella is some big money maker. Not sure how their decision making works or why that gets prioritized over those projects though.

>> No.17577763

>>17577707
Maybe because its easier and can be written way faster than others or something? I cant say anything certain since I didnt read it, but I'm pretty sure that without FGO and ufotable, tsukihime remake would get released like at 2013-2014 at worst.

I'm following the tsukihime remake news for a 10 years at least, but everytime they get serious about it some new shit appears and just block the entire project.

At 2010 they were pretty serious about it, there was even a website for tsukihime remake. Then ufotable happened with Fate zero and delayed it for like 4-5 years.

At 2015 they became somewhat serious again, released the new arts for every character, a something-like-trailer video and even showed us the new teacher character. Then bam!, FGO happened and remake got delayed for a motherfucking century again.

>> No.17578330

What's the funniest VN that you've ever read?

>> No.17578414

>>17577670
Don't forget DDD and Girls' Work. Nasu is a lazy hack that wants to just recycle Fate ad naseum.

>> No.17578435

>>17578330
Oretsuba
Muramasa
Light-hearted Maruto's works (Mama Love, Dame Koi)

The banter in Oretsuba is legit, and Kageaki is probably one of the funniest main character in the medium.

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>>17578414
>Don't forget Girl's Work
why not, everyone else has. including the creators.

>> No.17578596

How hard is Mashimaro for someone who is N4-N3 level? I've never read anything harder that slice of life manga but need to start somewhere with VNs.

>> No.17578681

>>17578596
Go ask DJT.

>> No.17579418

>>17578596
Mashimaro is your typical moege, very easy to read if you have even a basic grasp on grammar and vocab. The setting is a patisserie so you'll be hearing quite a few loan words spoken.

>> No.17579478

>>17578596
Self-assessments are often wrong.

>> No.17579578

Is baldr sky zero worth reading?

>> No.17579586

>>17579578
It has a couple of good routes and zero 2's Marelle's is pretty great.
The main poroblems with it are that the writing is pretty bad in general and Shizel's route fucking awful and four times longer than it needed to be.

>> No.17579691

What's the ultimate NTR novel ever made?

>> No.17579751

>>17579691
Gatenkei is the most acclaimed one for sure.

>> No.17579755

>>17579691
>>17579751
Gatenkei is the entry level but it's overrated
The best one is 絆されて・・・~空手娘・千鶴の情事~

>> No.17579787

>>17579751
Isn't that the clown one with the ink semen? If so that's some good shit. RIP Elf

>> No.17579791

>>17579787
No, Boku no Kanojo one.

>> No.17580458

New thread:

>>17580454
>>17580454
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