/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>17440603
Which will be released first, Umineko Chiru on Steam or WTC5... I wonder.

me on the right

>>17440909
me on the left

>>17440909
>>17440924
Now kiss

>>17440927

Please put Seacats in the OP

Why is Rosatrice such a shitty theory? :/

>>17441755
There's nothing wrong with fringe theories, but its proponents are some of the most arrogant and obnoxious people in the fanbase and totally ignore the story just because they don't like how it turned out.

>>17440873
Just checking, has MangaGamer given a date for their release of Umineko Chiru yet?

>>17440603
Oh hey, it's another Umi/Higu dead thread. Hi!

>>17442456
You're free to leave it you want, you goat.

>>17442427
No. They have a panel at Otakon this Friday though, maybe they'll reveal it there

>>17442495
Don't give it attention

>>17442495
Huh?! Dead people don't talk.
>>17442530
What?

Why haven't you created your own witch OC yet, Anonymous? My witch is named Tikvahteinu, the Witch of Hope. She appears nice on the outside but she's actually quite a wacko, just like the rest of the witches. I would draw her in Paint to show you, but I'm too embarrassed that I'll get laughed at.

>>17442559
Because I'm not nine years old lol

>>17442456
>dead
>every thread hits bump limit

I wanna make Yasu my wife!

>>17442907
Duh, of course, if three or four people keep bumping the thread obviously is gonna hit bump limit someday. Don't take my post seriously though, I was not attacking, just saying hello.
>>17442917
Will pls

>>17443017
We are a close knit comfy community.

What are the odds that Yasu has done butt stuff to herself?

>>17441755
> :/
These generals really do attract the worst kind of scum, don't they? Where'd you come from, some fucking facebook "best anime memes" group?

>>17443119

Gotta use those stakes for something.

>>17443157

Oh yes, rofl, I love anime memes! I love Umineko anime! xD HAHAHA such a good anime ^^

Why are you so mean though? :/

>>17443168
Yasu is pure

>>17443168
"and yasu put the seven stakes into his seven holes and played with them for seven years." revelations 10:4

anon

>>17443187
beato

>>17443191
ANON

>>17443203
BEATO

Can someone say me where is "Ricordando il passato" (the last song in Umineko) located in Umineko Chiru's folder?
I searched in the BGM folders but there isn't or I missed it.

>>17443288

Or you can just download the song from Youtube like a normal person. :/

>>17443046
Sometimes yea
>>17443175
Not that anon, but "The quality of posts is extremely important to this community" or something like that. It's a common rule on this website to not use emoticons or whatever to pretend that we are a super duper mega awesome serious community. Play along
If you hide it it should be fine <3
>>17443175
Youtube yep

>>17443328
(You)

>>17443333
>Youtube yep
Damn, meant for >>17443157

>>17443288
BGM4. It's named Byakumu_short

>>17443333
>It's a common rule on this website to not use emoticons or whatever to pretend that we are a super duper mega awesome serious community.

As long as they're not trying to be obnoxious anyone can learn to play by the rules, and a bit of elitism is all it takes take to keep the worst kinds of shitposters from frequenting your board.

You remember that "Rikas butt is really lewd"-poster we had a couple threads ago, right? Now, if half of our userbase were like him we'd be well on our way to becoming the next Furrafinity. Once there's a certain level of cancer festering in your userbase it's only going to attract more insanity.

>all those typos in Steam version Umineko
Did they even proofread?

What are some of your favorite vocal tracks in Umineko, including extra ones like character songs? Personally, I'm a big fan of Gold in Blue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8x1PFC0xy4

>>17443508
I understand the meaning and the purpose of the rules and the elitism. I just find it funny because all the oldfags I have talked to told me these place (4chan) used to be a lot less serious than now, like a little hypocritical?, though I understand times change and so the communities.
Sometimes a little of craziness is fine, like the mysteries, unless is from people like you described it. I just ignore those creeps now, but there's no need to be assholes like >>17442530 for no reason.

>>17443626
Using different images isn't somehow going to magically fool everyone into thinking you're innocent.

>>17443635
Okay then. What did I do?

>>17442559

Lethe the Witch of Forgetfulness. She takes you to the magical Distorted land where rivers of ice and Spirytus Rektyfikowany flow throughout the landscape. Jack Daniels' bottles grow on trees. There are also ramshackle cabins in the woods with jukeboxes and coolers filled with Gatorade so you don't die of dehydration. Night lasts as long as you want it to and when done getting wasted with her you can return to the real world without a soul obliterating hangover. Beato shows up as well and you can get drunk with her.

Also she has a hat.

>>17443635
Still waiting for you to tell me what did I do wrong.

>>17443676
Stop.

>>17443688
Okay, fine. If you're going to bitch about someone at least have a reason for it. Bye

>>17443544

I really like Birth of a New Witch. Not only is it a good song, but it plays during one of my favorite moments - the conclusion of episode 6 as Battler/Beato essentially confirm that there are only 17 people on the island.

>>17443905
Yeah, Birth of a New Witch is a classic. The vocals really sell it. I also like the vocal versions of tracks like The Great Detective Knows, Golden Nocturne, and Thank You For Being Born.

Edit Anon here with a quick question. For whatever reason, some of the doujinshi I'm working on weren't printed with black ink. For example, one is printed in a bright reddish-orange that makes it a pain to read. My current plan is to just convert these ones to grayscale, and I was wondering if anyone had a problem with that?

>>17444118
Whatever

>>17442559
Jasmine, the witch of the eternal chaos. Special abilities: Invincible, infinite power, breaks everything, super inhuman intelligence, cuteness. Secret Abilities: Bark (she still doesn't know how)
Loves: Me, her toys, my clothes, chewing everything, parks, birds and cats, my bed, puppy videos, pink, attention, evilness.
Hates: You, baths, rainy days, loud noises, my friends (she's so jealous), nerds, world peace, purple, perfume, justice.
Extremely evil witch with the power of destroying everything with her powerful paws and her sharp fangs. Although she is still very small, she is capable to jump to the stars, run incredible distances at the speed of sound and knows everything about you by just smelling you. An expert in stealing and hiding things, she will steals your soul and buried it where you will never find it.
She believes the villains are cool, so she decided to bring chaos and destruction to the world. She demands attention constantly, and you better give it to her or else!

>>17444132
In that case, I'll do what I feel is best. I figured I'd ask first just in case.

>>17444191

Post sample. Also thank you for all your work.

>>17444191
Whatever

>>17444204
Sure thing. Here's an example of what I'm talking about. The one on the left is the original page color while the one on the right is the grayscale version. Note that these are just rough drafts, so the final version will hopefully look better either way.

>>17444213
Your support is appreciated.

>>17444298
Whatever. I don't care because I don't read these type of things. Right looks better though, that's my advice.

>>17444298
The grayscale looks much better. The red one hurts my eyes

>>17444321
Well, I still appreciate the feedback regardless, so thank you. I'll go with the one on the right then.

>>17444298

Gray is fine.

>>17444344
Yeah, that's what I thought too. I don't know why they decided to print it that way to begin with. There's another one done in purple that's somewhat easier on the eyes, but I'll probably just go ahead and change that one too while I'm at it.

>>17444349
Thanks. I'll go with that.

There's actually one other thing I wanted to ask about if anyone's got the time. A couple of the larger doujinshi I bought actually turned out to be compilations of several smaller doujinshi, some of which have already been uploaded to sadpanda. I was wondering whether I need to go through the effort of rescanning and cleaning these parts, or if I can use the preexisting scans and just do the new parts? Also, should I upload the parts individually as I finish them, or wait and upload the whole thing together?

>>17444347
Damn, I just realize I should have picked the one on the left for the perverts so they could end up getting blind and sad. What a missed opportunity...
Oh well, whatever.
>>17444446
Final whatever

>>17444191
Ignore and report it

>>17444465
For what reason?

>>17444451
Actually, the doujinshi in question was non-h, as are most of the ones I'm working on. >>17444446 is actually the only R-18 one I have left out of about 30 works.

>>17444486
See >>17444465

>>17444486
I'm was just joking there, anon. Do whatever, seriously. It's not like I can stop you, or that I'm angry for real. As long as you keep being subtle about your pervy stuff I don't care, really. Gnight

>>17444474
Kinda avatarfagging and adding nothing to the discussion.

>>17444740
Ignore and report it

>>17444542
>As long as you keep being subtle about your pervy stuff I don't care, really.
No promises there I'm afraid. I'm still a pervert in the end and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I can promise not to spam my fetishes like certain others though.

>>17444446
Do as you see fit, Anon. No one is pressuring you or anything of the sort. Act at your own pace. I love you.

>>17444752
Please stop giving the attention whore attention

>>17444756
Thank you. As always, I appreciate your and everyone else's support. and I love you all for it too. After all, that's why I work like this to begin with.

Which seacats would have made for the best spouses?

>>17444812
Rosa. She has no confidence and would do anything you ask. I'd ask her to always love me.

Plus you get Maria as a daughter.

>>17444812
Asmodeus

>>17444829
True, most of Rosa's negative aspects seem like they'd stop being an issue once she finds a good partner. And Maria is cute too.

>>17444847
Interesting choice. Any reasons for that?

>>17444829

Beatrice sounds like a fun girlfriend. You can do whatever you want with her, she is open to everything and you can mess around with each other without any problems.

I'm definitely like Battler when it comes to liking that sort of personality.

>>17444812
Rosa, she goes to work while I get to play with Maria if you know what I mean.

>>17444740
Uh-huh, because waifuism or post like >>17440909 >>17440924 >>17445143 are very relevant to the topic. Alrighty then.
>>17444757
>being this resentful
What a goddamn idiot you are. Grow up. You hating me is only your problem, because I don't feel nothing about you, but stop bossing others and telling them what to do for no reason when I'm not breaking any rule.
>>17444812
Hideyoshi are Eva always looked very cute together, so I say Eva.
>>17444752
>I can promise not to spam my fetishes like certain others though.
And that's everything I ask. Now we're good, pervy-anon.

>>17445133
Beatrice would be tons of fun. Endless shenanigans that'll never leave you bored. She seems the type to get jealous or lonely pretty easily though, so you'd have to be careful.

>>17445157
Eva can be really sweet when she's alone with her immediate family, but you'd need some patience to handle her in her more malicious moods. On that front, Hideyoshi was a very good match for her.

>>17445143
What sort of games would you play with her anon?

>>17445202

>Beatrice would be tons of fun. Endless shenanigans that'll never leave you bored. She seems the type to get jealous or lonely pretty easily though, so you'd have to be careful.

That's the best part. It makes me love her even more.

>>17445133
>>17445235
>her

>>17445250
Meta World Beato, not the human Yasu.

>>17445157
Fuck off you cunt, you're never going to be welcome here.

>>17445207

>>17445250
>>17445263

Yeah, I'm not talking about Yasu. I am literally talking about Meta world Beatrice.

Yasu is too miserable for me. I pity her but...I don't think I'm strong enough to handle a person with that sort of trauma and complex.

>>17445284
plus im not some gay ass nigga

>>17445157
You were replying ''whatever'' and nothing more to based edit anon you idiot. I'd much rather have posts like the one you quoted than what you did.

>drama on /seacats/

i just want to talk about wtc and that's all

>>17445322
Dlanor is a sadist

>>17445322
>>17445326
How would Dlanor be as a wife?

>>17445330
Stop right there you fucking pedo.

>>17445330
I think she'd be pretty chill about it to be honest. She's probably not all that used to things like romance, so she'd mostly let her partner take the lead and try to do her best to reciprocate.

>>17445338
Marriage ≠ just sex.

>You are temporarily blocked from posting for violating Global 13 - Avatars or Signatures.
I thought avatarfagging was using pics of the same character over and over, not just posting some reaction image. Okay
>>17445316
I only replied like that twice, nothing to get upset about, like who cares, not even pervy-anon cares. Everything is the fault of >>17444757 anyways. Let's stop now.

>>17444812
Leviathan for the cute fluster while she tries to keep you all to herself!

>>17445462
That's cute. I could totally see her getting worked up whenever her sisters try to play with you. They'd probably pretend to flirt with you too just to mess with her.

Does anyone have that image about this(?) scene but in the manga? maybe it was from the "and then i knew" part but i remember it was Battler descending towards something and various fragments showing scenes from previous episodes.
Anyone have it?

>>17445498
This one?

>>17445530
yes, thank you

>>17445235
If she's afraid you'll leave her it means she doesn't trust you. That's not cute at all.

>>17447686

Where does it say she's afraid I'll leave her?

Doesn't sound like Beatrice at all, anyway.

>>17445284
*him

>>17448050
I prefer *them.

Any news on the English release of EP7's manga? It's been about half a year since they finished EP6.

>>17449058
https://www.amazon.com/Umineko-WHEN-THEY-CRY-Episode/dp/0316411892/

>>17449077
Well I feel dumb now. Thanks.

What are your preferences when it comes to the pronunciation of the character's western names? Like, do you prefer to use the English, Japanese, or Italian pronunciation for Beatrice? Using the English pronunciation feels most natural, but I know it's actually of Italian origin. Then again, the nickname "Beato" only really makes sense with the Japanese pronunciation.

>>17450023
Italian for the first one and Japanese for the other ones, I mean the Japanese pronunciation is just trying to use the Italian one and failing anyway.

Mion is my waifu
Yes she is

>>17450202
Good taste.

Today is Higurashi's 15th birthday!

>>17450202
She really is the best

Hotarubi ch 6 is out
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Hotarubi-no-Tomoru-Koro-ni

>>17450273
https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/895168760788774917

>>17450023
I call her Beatrice with the English pronunciation because it sounds weird trying to do the Italian one in a normal sentence, even if I think it sounds better. I call her Beato majority of the time though.

Edit anon here again with another new batch of scans ready for cleaning. As always, if there are any in particular you're interested in feel free to let me know and I'll try to prioritize it.

I actually planned on scanning more issues in the batch, but I decided to call a quits here for now since I'm not feeling too well at the moment. Depending on how things go, I may add one or two more doujinshi in the near future.

>>17444812
Lucifer of course.

>>17451830
Why is the embodiment of pride so lustful?

>>17450023
Having Spanish as my native tongue, I just use the Italian variant for Beatrice and it sounds alright. Sometimes I also use the Japanese one because I'm kind of a chuuni.

>>17452603
Same but with French.
Are there any Italians on /seacats/?
That would be cool.

somebody post the umineko anime rosa smear

>>17450023
I never thought about that, like I do it unconsciously. I always use the same pronunciation used by the characters to refer each others names in the anime or, in this case, the VN. If I'm reading a manga and I don't know the proper way to pronounce a name I don't complicate myself much and just call them like whatever I want, use a diminutive or a nickname. I'm don't get embarrassed if someone correct me later.

>>17450273
Guess who doesnt give a crap? me lol
Happy Birthday anyways

>>17451674
Bottom right looks interesting, with the unusual artstyle and all. Also, hope you get well soon, Anon.

>>17452837
The what?

>>17452943
i think it was this one

>>17451674
Oh, you're dying? Hope you don't suffer too much
"pat pat"

>>17450023
I never thought about that, like I do it unconsciously. I always use the same pronunciation used by the characters to refer each others names in the anime or, in this case, the VN. If I'm reading a manga and I don't know the proper way to pronounce a name I don't complicate myself much and just call them like whatever I want, use a diminutive or a nickname. I'm don't get embarrassed if someone correct me later.

>>17452723
Yes.

>>17453532
buongirono!

>>17454350
It's 1am anon

>>17452941
Thanks. I'm feeling much better now. It seems I just needed to get some sleep. The bottom right one is pretty fun. I'll get started on it shortly.

Comiket is upon us.


Is it happening?

You. fucking. idiot
stop deleting my post you dumbass. I'm not ban evading or breaking any rules you are such an idiot Q v Q
>>17450023
I never thought about that, like I do it unconsciously. I always use the same pronunciation used by the characters to refer each others names in the anime or, in this case, the VN. If I'm reading a manga and I don't know the proper way to pronounce a name I don't complicate myself much and just call them like whatever I want, use a diminutive or a nickname. I'm don't get embarrassed if someone correct me later.
>>17454350
>using another language other than english outside of /pol/ or /int/
Sei una vergogna per i tuoi genitori
>>17454652
No, you're wrong. You still feel bad but you just don't realize, like you need to take a rest for another year. Take care of yourself!
>>17455011
No idea, most likely it will be next year, like other anons said. Maybe some info but don't expect much else.

>>17455011
We'll probably not get some info. Maybe some character art, or if we're real fucking lucky, a trailer.

NOt fair

So, Shannon's real name, "Sayo" makes sense with the whole Yasu thing, but where did Kanon's real name, "Yoshiya" even come from? Was it just a fake name he made up on the spot?

>>17455011
The title itself is going to be a secret until just before it's going to be released, because apparently the name will give too much away. I wouldn't expect very much info to be revealed until we get really close to its release, which is still likely to be next year rather than this year. While I would love to be proven wrong, I'd prefer to have it released when it's ready than to be rushed.
Don't let yourself get too hyped over the wait, or your expectations are going to be too high and it's going to ruin your experience.

who cares, enjoy your boring dead thread alone

>>17455176
Apparently, if you rearrange the the characters in Yoshiya you get shayo which sounds a lot like Sayo. I think Yasu was just being clever.

>>17452723
Me!

>>17455228
When the Owl Cries, set in Paris/France.

Screencap this.

>>17455228
>The title itself is going to be a secret until just before it's going to be released, because apparently the name will give too much away.
Let's turn the chessboard around

Finally finished Umineko for the first time.
Holy hell that was a masterpiece.
There are still things that I don't get though.

At the end, we see Yasu-Beatrice sink into the bottom of the ocean, where the catbox lies.Does this mean this is where the game begins? or does it signify the end of the game?

The whole catbox thing is also somewhat confusing to me. But assuming that's a metaphor for the combined theories of Sayo's messages, the witch hunt and Tohya, I can sort of get past that. But does that mean that the entire metaworld was Battler trying to reason through the events that he forgot about? But if that is true, how does Ange know what happened? That was Bernkastel's doing right? On some higher level than the "real world" it looks like magic does exist, and entities like Bern, lambda, Dlanor and Will do exist.

It also seems from the tea party that Lion still exists. Same with the Ciester sisters, though I was sure they were representative of the guns used in the murders. They still exist off the game board, but none of the other fantasy characters do? What's different about them?

>>17459206
If you haven't yet, I'd recommend reading the manga version of Episode 8. Several parts were altered to give more concrete answers or expand upon the story. The same goes for Will's breakdown of the witch's illusion in Episode 7, where he now clearly explains all the crimes.

For example, after the scene of Beatrice and Battler drowning, we see Beatrice waking up inside the world of the catbox along with an amnesiac Battler.
Hoping to make him remember everything, Beato starts up the first game, leading back to the start of the series. This scene confirmed that the Player Battler in the Meta world was the identity of Battler Tohya lost at sea. This is further reinforced in the epilogue where Tohya reunites with everyone. In the Manga version, the Player Battler is also there alongside Beatrice, and we see Tohya's memories of his life as Battler leave Tohya and merge with the Player Battler.

>>17455065
Or character art being the focus of the trailer, like what happened with RGD

I hope Ryu makes fun of us dumb goats again in WTC5. We deserve to be humilliated as long as we remain stupid, mindless goats.

>>17461536
WTC5 won't be a story about people writing stories and other people responding to those stories with more stories so probably not

>>17461599
What if goes even more meta?

What about Hotarubi ch.15?

>>17462225
It's on hiatus this month

>>17462303
Wow, but why?

>>17462324
I'm not sure, but Koike Nokuto has another ongoing manga which is published twice a month. Might have something to do with that

>>17462508
Oh, I see. So will have to wait for next month

>>17457986

The name will probably hint at a connection to either Umineko or Higurashi.

Maybe a gameboard featuring piece Lambda who eventually escapes the hell and becomes a witch?

I rewatched some episodes of the anime this morning (I never finished it so I said, why not). I remember the first time I saw it I felt that the sudden amount of exhibition was strange and that there was something weird, like rushed, that immediately gave me a bad vibe and ended up killing my interest. Now I feel that there's so little! I'm kind of liking it anyway, maybe I will continue to watch it on Monday, although there's this bittersweet feeling of knowing that it isn't finished.
If you go with an open mind is not that bad, I mean, there is no way they could do anything with just 26 episodes. An effort was made at least, and watching the characters animated along with the music is cool enough. Have a good weekend! Kiss

>>17462725
I thought the anime was kinda fine at first but it kinda got worse as it progressed, my main complain is the how they fucked up the mood of some of my fav scenes, I loved the slightly mocking feel when Maria first reads Beato's letter in ep 1 in the VN (fishy aroma helped) and in the anime it was all menacing and shit, I hated it and you can't tell how Beato is making fun of the Ushiromiya's.

>>17462725
>>>/a/. Go back, pleb.

Higanbana was the most enjoyable work they've made to date, fact.

Does anyone have a link to Satoko's guide to traps (3d). The one that was linked on Seacats was dmca'd.

>>17450023
beato

>>17464519
anon

Hypothetically speaking, what would it take to make an anime adaptation of Umineko work? Directing? Pacing? Visuals? What are your thoughts?

>>17464659
beato!

>>17464659

>>17464683
A studio who can animate actually decent character designs and keep them on model would help

>>17464683
Nothing. Anime as an art form was a mistake, and could never truly capture the magic of a VN.

>>17464683

They would have to perfectly capture the meta aspect of the anime, which is difficult to do regardless of the studio.

Who would have worked better? Fat fat and Shannon or Kanon/Jessica.

>>17464683
Beyond actually animating important clues left on the adaptation, don't animate superficially. Understand what is going on and subtly nudge the anime toward it.

There could have been subtle visual cues about the nature of subjective narration early on. Like a character seeing something, and another character seeing something else entirely in the same scene. Small cues, not overwhelming, but enough to say 'haha!' in hindsight.

Meta Battler's position should have been made viable. When Meta Battler reaches a conclusion, a flashback could be here to put everything together.

Like, Kinzo death status. A nice, short flashback should have shown him never actually getting out of his study.

>>17464975
Looking good, is this from the PS3 to PC project?

>>17465647
Yes

Ψυυδου σισυτεμυ ωερσιον 07

射撃誘導システム起動
Οηαψουγοζαιμασυ.
Σηαγεκι ψυυδου σισυτεμυ ηε ψουκοσο.

データ収集開始...
Συκψανν τψυυ.Δαταωο ατυμετειμασυ.
Ψυρασαναιδενε.Κοκοωο μιζυρυτο αταραναιψο.

射撃曲線形成中...
Σηαγεκι κψοκυσεν κεισειτψυυ.βεφε κψοκυσεν δε κεισει σιμασυψο.
Κοκοηα αναυμε νανοδε ψομαναιδενε.τεκιτου δεσυ.
Κουιυ ψοκυωακαννναι ειγο ττε κακκοιι ψονε.νανκα συτεκι.

射撃準備完了
Σηαγεκι φυνβι κανρψου.ατοηα υτεβα αταριμασυψο.
σοκυτει γα κανπεκιναρανε.ηοντουνι δαιφουβυ κανα.ζεν φιδου δαψο.

命中率９７．８９％
Ηοβο κακυφιτυ νι αταρυ συυφιδεσυ.

>>17462602
I think it's a little difficult to make a connection with the other titles assuming the title will have the same format as the others, "x no naku koro ni", if that stays true I can think of four concrete possibilities here:
1. x can possibly reveal the location or setting of the game (maybe an animal specific to a certain place)
2. x is a word related to the old titles (there are few candidates though, "when witches cry" or something stupid like that)
3. x reveals the theme of the game or it's something unexpected ("when robots cry")
4. That statement is just to hype things up and the connection is minimal (for some reason similar things happen all the time with Japanese releases)
I'm pretty sure I had another one but I forgot.

>>17444812
Eva. I'm destroying her future with my dick.

>>17464683
One of my favorite scenes is during Episode 2: Beatrice presents her first challenge with the locked chapel, where Rosa finds a key inside the envelope kept in Maria's bag, and introduces the red truth.
In the original sound novel, Battler is trying to come up with all sorts of theories to explain it, but keeps getting them shut down and is taunted by Beatrice to surrender. Suddenly, he remembers that when he's feeling cornered, he should try and turn the chessboard around, and bounces back on his feet. Just like he reversed the chess board, he reversed the situation and cornered Beatrice in that moment.
https://youtu.be/Ari5nu6jXfw?t=1814
In the anime adaptation, he almost immediately solves it. Very little struggle, no suspense, it was all too brief. It didn't even have the same music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GrXe84wBwo
As much as I enjoy the logic battles, I also know there's more to Umineko than that.

Adapting the entirety of Umineko into an anime would be no small task. It has layers of mystery, fantasy battles, horror and gruesome murders, and a large cast with lots of scenes dedicated to them. Even mundane scenes are important to the plot and the overall theme. You need to focus and balance all those elements to make a decent adaptation that doesn't neglect any of its important parts that makes it Umineko, but it would be a ton of work. I believe something more realistic while still keeping the spirit would be animating just the important and iconic scenes, rather than retelling the whole story. You can have an episode dedicated to a major logic battle and then another on a fantasy battle, for example. Something that the fans would already enjoy.

MangaGamer's Otakon panel is done, no news about anything seacat related. Was really hoping for a release date on Golden Fantasia

>>17450023
For those with western names, I read them with the English pronunciation - with the exception of Maria, being closer to the Japanese one, for some reason.
For Beatrice, I use the Italian pronunciation and try to use it when I say it out loud. For Beato, I use the Japanese pronunciation. Also, the new MangaGamer version clarifies it when she first mentions it.

>>17465987
BEEAAAACHIIIEEEEE is better imo.

>>17462602
When the alien brain parasite gods cry

>>17466083
>idiots bitching about pointless shit as millions die of a zombie virus

I'm so fucking hyped for WTC5 even it's coming out in 2075

>>17466186
https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/896295257150586880

>>17466387
Oh fuck

>>17466462
yes, man

>>17466387
what does it say

bing isnt helping me

>>17455228
How does 'When they cry 5' give jack fuck away.

It would only give stuff away if it was a continuation of Higurashi or Umineko

>>17464975
I prefer Kanon/Jessica. Shannon/George feels far too idealized for me.

>>17466821
I have no idea how it would give away too much, but that's what Ryukishi is claiming. He said that during the 07th Expansion Party event.

https://twitter.com/umezawa_report/status/848084645220466689
https://twitter.com/kawatayuuhi/status/848083364833775617
https://twitter.com/tatibana556/status/848083349323173889

>>17466677
It says he's preparing himself, workplace and mentally, for writing WtC5.
It's the equivalent of an athlete stretching and warming up before the Olympics.

>>17466854
>continuing Hirguashi or Uminejko
>ever

Oh god its going to be Hou all over again isn't it

>>17466677
it'll be out tomorrow

>>17466887
In other words, get hype.

Does anyone think we'll get anything at all at comiket

>>17466387
Apparently this is related to Iwaihime??

>>17467608
the trial edition he's talking about is the one for Iwaihime Matsuri
that's releasing in less than a month so he's not really doing anything for that anymore

>>17466942
>continuing Hirguashi or Uminejko
How would that even work? Almost everyone from Umineko is dead and, as much as I'd like to see the Higurashi cast again, I don't see what he could do in a continuation story other than throwing Rika in another time loop, which would be stupid.

>>17464975
>fat

>>17467938
Ronove best boy

>>17467777
Follow George around?

>>17467777
How about more Okonogi?

>>17467777
Rather than actually continuing the stories themselves, I think it would be better to expand on the series as a whole. Give us a new story in a new fragment with new characters and conflicts. Let it have some connections here, but make it stand out on it's own first and foremost.

I like how Bernkastel and Lambdadelta have become a necessary part of Ryukishi's works. They don't always need to play a major role, but it just doesn't feel right anymore unless there's some kind of connection to them and their world. Their introduction in Umineko is what laid the foundation that's made all of the stories Ryukishi writes feel interconnected ever since.

What are you guys even talking about he already says it's going to be a complete new thing

>>17468174
They were super subtle in RGD if at all though

>>17468174
Yearly 'I want a fucking cameo Ryukishi FUCK'.

In WTC 5, at the stupidest and least expected moment possible, when everything is bleak or shit, I want my fucking Bern, Lambadadadelta, or even my Erika. Give it to me with some UNTZ and I will buy every single one of your game forever.

>>17468186
On the other hand, Battler is pretty similar.

>>17468228
This makes me imagine Battler getting it on with Bern and Lambda behind the scenes in some far off fragment.

>>17468491
With or without Beato watching?

>>17468642
Which would you prefer?

>>17468717
That's way too tough of a choice for me.

>>17468642
With her directing

>>17468767
Then how's this for a choice: Who do you think would take the lead?

>>17468865
Bern and Lambda would end up taking turns using Battler to dominate the other, as well as teaming up to dominate Battler. Battler would try and take them both on at once, but just ends up crying and proclaiming that it's useless.

>>17468949
Yeah, that sounds about right, also very hot. Good choice anon. Anything else you have in mind? Any particular antics you could see them doing together?

>>17468986
I wish I could say, but they're too insane and unpredictable. Not like that negatively impacts my view, however.

>>17469060
Fair enough I suppose. But man, that's a surprisingly appealing scenario. Kinda makes me want to try writing again sometime.

What's with Ryu and fangs

>>17469508
They're cute, and work well with his character designs. What I'm more interested in is what's his deal with leotards.

Another new doujinshi coming right up.

Tomitake is in everything. Playing TRi right now and his name just popped up.
He was in RGD too

>>17472167
What about Higanbana?

>>17472167
Was Tomitake the culprit all along?

>How it feels to pick "Trick"

>>17472196
I bet he's one of the Youkai.

>>17472421
Tomitake is always cool.
Also seems like he's just a building in TRi
Okonogi is the true culprit. Actually I will be legit mad if he doesn't appear in WTC5 or 6

Nihihi~ Now for my next trick, I'm gonna pull a rabbit out from under my hat nyeh.

>>17473114
>>17473119
closed-room revival.

>>17473114
>Jews aren't people! Therefore any jew could have moved the rock!

>>17473114
>>17473119
Fuck, you got me.

This is easily the funniest, cleverest thing I have read in 4chin those past three years. Shit. Congratulation.

>>17473114
Small bombs

>>17464683
Infinite budget
Staff loving the VN

>add -witch in sadpanda
>2 Beatrice doujin is top result
What does this mean?

>>17476731
That Beato doesn't fit the classical image of a witch covered by a "witch" tag. Neither do any of umineko's witches for that matter.

Here's an interesting subject that I think requires everyone who reads Umineko to come up with their own interpretations for. What are your thoughts on the true nature of the Meta World? What is each character's role in it. Is it the afterlife for those caught up in the tragedy, a purgatory Beatrice and Battler are stuck in, some imaginary setting in Tohya's head? Or is there no proper non-magic explanation for it?

>>17477005
>Or is there no proper non-magic explanation for it?
From a purely non-magic perspective, the Meta World represents Tohya's attempts to understand the mystery behind the Rokkenjima accident, and to recover his own memories by reading the stories written by Yasu/Ikuko (who are most probably the same person).

Meta-Beatrice represents, well, Beatrice, but also the legends of Rokkenjima, Yasu's heart, and the secrets behind the mystery. It's all very metaphoric, but isn't magic. It's just how Tohya visualizes his combat against the Rokkenjima murders.

>>17477111
That sounds pretty interesting. Personally my interpretation is a bit more on the magic perspective. I see the Meta World as this big crossroads on a higher level of the narrative written by Ikuko/Featherine. Several characters arrive here in different ways. Beato (Yasu's Beatrice persona) and the player Battler (Tohya's lost identity) arrive there after drowning in the ocean. Lambda and Bernkastel are just passing through on their journey through the sea of Kakera. Ange-Beatrice enters when Ange jumps of the roof of the skyscraper, and returns to her world either right after when she hits the safety net (magic end) or much later on during her boat ride to Rokkenjima (trick end).

Some of the other fantasy character's like the residents of heaven may or may not exist in some form outside this, like Dlanor and Will who are personifications of real life rules of the mystery genre. Other's like the demon's and furniture were almost definitely spawned within it as manifestations of various aspects of the gameboards based on Beato's heart.

I do agree that Player Battler's story mirrors Tohya's journey through his own mind to arrive at the truth, though I'm not sure whether the Meta World itself was actually created by him and Ikuko, as she often seems to switch to Featherine whenever referencing it, though this may just be because the two are one and the same and just switch their appearance depending on the level of narrative their currently observing.

>>17477150
This is pretty much exactly how I see it too, but for the Heaven people I'm pretty sure they're just fantasy characters created by Beato. The only 'proper' Meta characters are Battler, Beato, Lambda, Bern, Erika and Featherine.

>>17477150
To add to this, Eva-Beatrice is a curious case as she seems to represent various things over the curse of the story.

She starts out in Episode 3 as a piece on the gameboard representing another side of Eva, then ascends to a higher level upon solving the epitaph. At this point she seemed to be able to influence the gameboard’s scenario beyond Beato’s control, though this may have also been part of the plan to trick Battler. From a non-fantasy perspective, it’s likely that her influence was due to Tohya believing Eva was the true culprit at the time of Banquet’s writing. Either way, Eva-Beatrice still doesn’t seem able to access the actual Meta World until Battler pulls her there from the Gameboard.

After her defeat, she reappears in Episode 4 as a representation of the “black witch”, taking that form due to Ange’s lingering hatred for Eva. Then in Episode 6 she’s back to being just a piece representing Eva’s darker thoughts. Finally, in Episode 8 she seems to have ascended once again, this time as the personification of the Eva culprit theory in the future.

>>17477222
Yeah that seems more likely. Just because the concepts Will and Dlanor personify are real doesn't mean they are. And Gertrude/Cornelia just represent the things used to seal doors.

>The only 'proper' Meta characters are Battler, Beato, Lambda, Bern, Erika and Featherine.
What about Ange?

>>17477222
>but for the Heaven people I'm pretty sure they're just fantasy characters created by Beato.

If you go by a magical explanation, then Dlanor and Will are almost certainly proper meta characters, 'real'.

They are summoned not by Beato but by Lambda/Bern using their powers as Senate's Witches (which certainly exist). They have no formal ties with the story, didn't come from marriage sorciere and weren't created by Yasu. What's more, they aren't limited to Beato's gameboard, exist through Kakeras, and in EP 8 Tea Party, the letter Lambda and Bern get implies that they have a conceptual existence by themselves.

The stakes and the chiesters are creation of Yasu, but Dlanor and Will were summoned by Lambda and Bernkastel.

>>17477291
There's also that side material that shows Dlanor coming to inspect the scenarios of the gameboard to ensure that they adhere to the decalouge, showing that she exists outside of it and has been around since before it's creation.

whats that song that has the dog barking in the background?

Edit Anon here with another doujinshi. Since I’ll mostly be doing non-h works for a while, I figured I should at least do one with some fanservice. With that in mind, please enjoy this fun filled hotsprings story.

>>17477291
And yet, the letter that Erika receives in the final tea party mentions the Chiesters in the same way it does Dlanor, Lion and Will.

Makes me wonder what the difference is between the Chiesters and Ronove/Gaap/Virgilia, since I too thought they were all products of Yasu's mind.

>>17477150
The only thing I don't get about the anti-fantasy explanation is how that would explain battler and ange interacting in the metaworld, and remembering those same stories years later, since we know that Ange never visited Ikuko in the real world.

>>17478174
Well the Chiesters seem to be sort of a neutral force, working for whatever side is currently employing them. Doesn't Erika also mention that those 3 were to be executed with the rest of the demons and furniture during Episode 5? It's mentioned that there are a bunch of other Chiesters we never get to see, each also named after some kind of gun or bullet. Since 45, 410, and 00 are meant to symbolize the guns on the island, maybe they're the only ones that are connected to the gameboard, while the Chiester imperial corps as a whole exists beyond it.

Why was Clair so underutilized as a character? She’s got such a pretty looking design and her role in Episode 7 was really interesting. Yet she’s the least recognized of Yasu’s personas by far, and was one of the few characters not present at all in the final Episode, losing even to characters like Professor Ootsuki and Captain Kawabata. What even happened to her in the end? Did Bernkastel kill her off for good, or could she still be revived?

>>17478252
Possible, but we get to see Yasu create them for maria, and it would be one hell of a coincidence that she'd create something that already happens to exist. Then again, they don't explicitly name them during the creation process either, so that might just be forest band critters like Sakutarou that we never get to see.

>>17478292
>Why was Clair so underutilized as a character?
Because her only purpose was to represent the culprit without showing who it was. She wasn't really needed after that

I want to protect Satoko

I made a thing.

>>17478349
I feel a desire to protect her, but also a great deal of lust for her. It's rather disconcerting.

>>17478325
Sort of a waste of a good design if you ask me. I really liked the way she looked.

>>17478182
>battler and ange interacting in the metaworld, and remembering those same stories years later

Simple: they didn't.

The meta-world Ange represents how she has come to accept the tragedy, pretty much like how meta-Battler represents Ikuko's quest for the truth. There are some fascinating interactions here, because Ikuko, by publishing new stories once he understood the mystery, prods and helps the development of Ange in turn (thus Meta Battler 'meets' Meta Ange). This doesn't that their soul actually met, just that one has metaphorically helped the other.

>>17478522
Well now I feel stupid for never even considering that Ange might have just picked up one of Ikuko's novels in the local bookstore, without an actual meeting with her.

>>17478522
>>17478601
Wait, did they're meeting actually happen or not?
Because Ange mentions meeting her before in the epilogue.

>>17478631
In the real world, Ange never got to meet with Ikuko and Tohya, as she was rebuffed for being a little arrogant rich bitch at the time, and Tohya didn't want to meet her for fear of losing himself to Battler. I now believe that Ange's meetings with Ikuko/Featherine were metaphorical for the author guiding the reader through the story.

>>17478631
In the VN she says that they never met, but in the manga she says that they met once. It's kind of wierd

>>17478421
Is it even physically possible for a girl her age to have a chest like that?

Edit anon again. I've got 6 more doujinshi scanned and ready for cleaning. Adding the two left over from the last set, there are now 8 doujinshi to choose from.

>>17478421
Kys

>>17462866
I personally feel a little more annoyed by the little chat of the parents about the family's inheritance. It was handled terribly, no tension whatsoever! It was sooo more impactful in the VN when all of them dropped their masks and started arguing with each other. Also, I think they made Maria extra creepy in the anime, which is was unnecessary imo
>>17462885
Honestly /a/ has been very boring lately and outside a few generals like JoJo or YoI and some more, I haven't browse it so much lately.
>>17464683
I love visuals, but directing and pacing are the most important ones, mostly the directing. It's like the core of every good show. I would rather see an adaptation that looks a bit poorly but, with what little it has, it succeeds in everything else. Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad comes to mind.

>>17479086
Chiester Sisters' one because bunny girls are the best.

>>17479086
Who cares?

>>17473114
>Do you still refuse to believe, Richard Daaawkiiiins?
I just love it.

Any good sites to buy all Higurashi manga?
Birthday is coming up and i really wanna get them.

>>17479238
Amazon

>>17479106
Thanks. Will do.

>>17479105
What about an anime done entirely in Ryukishi's art style?

>>17477111
I prefer this theory more than all the others. The idea that everything was just a giant metaphor as a personal struggle for the characters to move on makes the story more beautiful and complex than just using the excuse of magic in my eyes. But I also believe that it's possible that the meta can be real, like as a place between two worlds where witches plays and affect our world. Our reality seeks a logical solution to everything that witches might touch or change, like some kind of rule, and everything is seeing as a product of our imagination, a dream or a strange event. Someone from the meta word, or the magic itself, can be just like an emotion or a just fantasy for us, but real somewhere else, and so both theories can coexist.
>>17479297
I would watch it, why not. I love ONE's style from OPM just as much as Murata so I'm not one to judge about Ryukishi art.
Seeya nerds

>>17479322
Well, by Umineko's end, you are more or less obligated to admit that both incompatible interpretations of Umineko are both equally valid, and probably both equally true.

Which is something that no other piece of fictions do, now that I think about it.

Not equally valid interpretations, and you choose to pick the one you like. That has been done multiple times. But equally valid, and equally objectively true incompatible interpretations you need to admit at the same time to make sense of the story. This is a head turner.

You need both the fantasy and the mystery interpretation to fully understand Umineko. Even when it makes no sense to mix them together, Umineko makes no sense if you don't admit that both are true.

>>17479413
>Umineko makes no sense if you don't admit that both are true.
That's probably part of the reason people are pissed off about Chiru. The beginning was largely magic vs anti-magic, but it's also been stressed over and over to look at it through both sides. At first I found it difficult to understand and accept, but now I see how both are allowed to exist just fine and it helps me appreciate the story even more because of that.

I wonder if Ryukishi is going to explore such a thing even more for WTC5. He did pull off a lot of subversions in Umineko for those that already read Higurashi, which makes me curious if he'll repeat that for the next series. On one hand I'm dreading another complicated theme, but on the other hand I don't want him to be discouraged and hold himself back because that difficulty is still one of the charms of his work.

>>17477415
>whats that song that has the dog barking in the background?
anyone have any idea?
i am pretty sure it is from Umineko

>>17479707
I'm not sure what track you're referring to. Any idea when it plays?

>>17479763
unfortunately, no.
i remember a while ago, listening to Higurashi themes on youtube, and by chance ended up listening to this song.
if i recall correctly, i remember seeing pictures of umineko characters in the youtube video (as opposed to higarashi characters).
its a really catchy song. i dont think there are any spoken lyrics. the only unique feature i can remember is that a dog barks a couple times throughout the piece.

>>17477415
worldend dominator?

>>17479823
thats exactly the one i was thinking of.
thank you so much!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAKkw71ff3U

>>17479883
When does the dog bark? Can't hear it

>>17479883
Good for you. If you're a fan of that one, you may want to check out the other "climax" tracks as well.

>>17479919
it is very subtle, and i may be mistaken calling it a dog bark. when a verse ends and a new one starts, you hear a sharp, but low sound in the background.
https://youtu.be/fAKkw71ff3U?t=144

>>17479922
what do you mean by "climax tracks"?
i am very unfamiliar with the Umineko part of the series. i am more into Higurashi.
i just got this album because it has Worldend Dominator on it
http://vgmdb.net/album/14643

>>17479919
>>17479939
>https://youtu.be/fAKkw71ff3U?t=144
timestamps don't really work with embeds. the spot i was trying to link to was around 2:26
you can try to copy and paste the link

>>17479939
Oh, I see what you mean now. Quite an odd thing to remember about that track, but it helped you find it again anyway.

>>17479939
He meant dreamenddischarger, lasendconductor, the executioner, liberated liberater, resurrected replayer and miragecoordinator
You should use this channel(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf4AKMhw2MU)) because other channels have umineko spoilers as the thumbnail
Also read Umineko, the music alone makes it worth it

>>17479951
>Quite an odd thing to remember about that track
yea, having listened to it again now it does seem a little weird.
i got real lucky >>17479823 had any idea what i was talking about. very impressive.

>>17479968
>because other channels have umineko spoilers as the thumbnail
much appreciated.

>>17479939
The climax tracks are a nickname for a certain set of tracks that play during the really hype moments. There's one per Episode, each over 7 minutes long, and each follows a similar naming sense.
Episode 1 - Golden slaughterer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raxEmANPTVc
Episode 2 - Worldend dominator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVr0IUQ6BwE
Episode 3 - Miragecoordinator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf4AKMhw2MU
Episode 4 - Dreamenddischarger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDPJuAxZaOo
Episode 5 - Resurrected replayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNl4PNFubvQ
Episode 6 - Liberated liberator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM-Stt5Yq6o
Episode 7 - The executioner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg9XPcPKYAQ
Episode 8 - Lastendconductor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMDmaghbkA

>>17479413
Yea I agree, but I don't know about saying that Umineko makes no sense if you don't admit that both are true. I mean, there is a lot of people who just stick with one of the options and still feel satisfied with the story. As I see it, anyone could simply not think much and just say that it was all a witch's work and a fun ride, others might choose the logic option and say that everything was an intelligent metaphor, so then there's three ways to undestand the story and it's perfectly fine whatever you choose.
>>17479538
I was fortunate to read it all when it was already finished, so I didn't have to wait for the finale like some of you, but I imagine lots of people hyped the ending way too much. Lots of theories formulated by fans crushed and some people who had an idea of their ideal ending were inevitably disappointed. It happens. I think that's one of the reasons of the hate.
Hopefully Ryukishi can do everything right again and success, but I'm already happy with Higu and Umi, like I don't need another WTC and that's why I'm not feeling the hype for this one, or maybe because I don't take it too seriously.

>>17477259
>What about Ange?
She counts, but she kinda 'left' the meta I guess? She isn't the same as the others.

>>17477291
Then why are they included at the end of Ep. 8 in the Golden Land? It doesn't make sense for them to be there if they exist outside of the gameboard.

I just want to marry Sayo and be happy together...

>tfw no redtext on 4chan

>>17481428
good

>>17481428
>>>/y/ou+/a/re+/a/+/m/oron

>>17480207
The issue with Ep 8, if you remove the noise about goats and author insulting its readers (which simply don't really happen in Ep 8), is that this episode is simply not as good as the others.

It is rushed. The first half is slow and boring. The second half is a rondo of meta fights without proper build-up, and without the deep meta meanings behind the meta fights present in the previous episode. The first half is all nothing happening - the second half is all nothing meaningful happening. It's visually impressive but without heart.

The manga is far better and should be considered the canon way to enjoy Ep 8. Ep 8 is just a failure. It tries to do everything simultaneously and ends boring, chaotic and senseless.

>>17480870
>Then why are they included at the end of Ep. 8 in the Golden Land?

They still need a witch's power to reify their form into something conceptually meaningful. Look at the big deal of having a witch inviting them somewhere and getting the senate's permission.

The way I see it, Will and Dlanor both platonically exists in Heaven as concepts, but need to be summoned by a higher power into any other gameboard/kakera. Which makes sense from a meta perspective: they are conceptually rules of stories. You need to allow them in your story before they can do anything.

Which poses several interesting questions if you follow it through. I think Will and Dlanor can be reified in several places simultaneously if they are summoned at the same time by several witches.

>>17481935
Your explanation makes sense and thinking about it, it doesn't really make sense for Will to be a Yasu created fantasy beings, since he first appears in Berns gameboard and has a referenced past and the first scene with the servants cannot be culprits thing. Same goes for Dlanor.

It's still weird that they stick around at the end though. Willard has a reason with Lion but Dlanor kinda fell out with Erika, who isn't even in there.

>>17481904
This 100%. I always disagree when people say to not read the manga right away because it ruins the mystery, IMO you should read the manga ASAP after the VN because Episode 8 feels so incomplete without it.

If I didn't read the manga Ep 7/8 after finishing the VN I doubt I would've been as much as an Umineko fan as I am now.

If I want to start Umineko, what order should I go in with VN, anime, and manga?

>>17482390
VN
Manga
Avoid the Anime

>>17482448
>Avoid the Anime
Damedame Umineko is great

>>17482448
This

I made another thing. It came out pretty well. I think 00 looks nice like this.

>>17473114
>>17473119

Okay, I finished reading Umineko yesterday and feel safe to step inside this thread. Even though Ep8 was kind of a mess, it was fucking amazing work of fiction overall, and ambiguity of the ending only enhanced its effect on me.

I have a question: what side content is worth of consumption? Manga is a must as I understand, what else? Is anime as bad as people say?

Also post original content and memes

>>17483241
damedame anime is a must

https://exhentai.org/g/101818/258de75f73/
Is this hatesex or witch magic?

>>17483241
There's also Tsubasa and Hane. Translations of it can be found on the Umineko wikia.

>>17483241

>>17483318
Don't post this shit here

>>17483241

>>17483241
Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlyqr5nbw74
Also read/watch witches and woodlands

>>17483318
Magic

>>17483335
>witches and woodlands

Oh god. This was beautiful back in the day. The best piece of fiction Umineko has ever inspired.

>>17483241
Episode 8's manga would be the first thing I recommend reading.

>>17483241

>>17483241

>>17483241
Post the pokemon one. You know that one. Post it.

>>17483383

>>17483394
Not that one you dummy. The high level meme one.

>>17483400
too late

>>17483241
Somewhat newer one.

>>17483241
Not really side content, but Higurashi is worth reading if you haven't already

>>17483241
Nothing original per say, but here's some of my personal edits.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzdNfLGacG1rVzFWanpfTFlOdkE

>>17483241
You should try the anime now that you finished the VN when you have some free time. If you're not one of those who gets easily offended by some silly decisions here and there (a considerable amount of content was cut in the animu) is not really so bad, like for someone who has no idea what to expect it could be entertaining and average.
When I was in sixth grade I had one friend who loved the anime (the same who recommended me Higu), she was obsessed for like a month and we both felt a little disappointed when I didn't like it as much as the other, didn't even finish it. I'm currently giving it another shot, and again it's not really that bad, but still forgettable. It depends of the person, I guess.
>>17481904
Well, I heard Ryukishi had some personal problems around that time, like the dead of one of his friends. I think it was his editor or something, not sure. The loss of a friend is a huge shock for everyone and it's understandable that this might have affect him and his inspiration to write. As difficult as might be to deliver an ending on those circumstances he still tried his best to appease his fans, and later he retouched it with the manga.
You don't have to forget that the author is a person as well.

>Well, I heard Ryukishi had some personal problems around that time, like the dead of one of his friends.
You mean BT? Yeah, that had a noticable impact on him. According to Ryukishi himself;

>He was not only my very best friend, but also my very first reader.
>I wrote both Higurashi and Umineko because I wanted to surprise him.

>During the several months that passed since that day.
>I forgot the joy of writing.

>However, I know better than anyone else that if I stop writing because of him, he would be the most sad.
>So I must write.
>But he will no longer read it.

>I think I'll use today as a chance to set my heart back to square one.
>No, perhaps it's just the same as always.
>I think I'll start writing again for him to read.

>>17483780
Meant for>>17483745

>>17481428

>>17483335
>witches and woodlands
Sounds fun, I'll try it

>>17483543
I'm definitely reading Higurashi one day, but not after Umineko. I need something shorter before it for a bit of pallete cleanser.

>>17483546
Gohda edits in combination with this >>17483322 are hitting good.

>>17483780
r_r so sad damn... reading the last part makes me want to cry ;-;

>>17482363
>It's still weird that they stick around at the end though.

But they don't.

Willard goes back to wherever his home is (which, for a conceptual being, is not a trivial concept) with Lion. Dlanor goes back to Heaven. They don't stick around Rokkenjima's kakeras. Instead, they go on with their 'lives'.

When the Golden Land is destroyed, everyone fade to black except Will (and Lion), Dlanor, and her retinue.

>>17483241

>New reader shows up
>Asks for memes
>Thread explodes

Was there a letter?

>>17484184
>"new reader"

>>17483241

>>17484397
>>17484161
>>17483335
literally tumblr-tier

>>17484963
>my meme is better than your meme!

>>17484995
shitty tumblr comics are not memes

>>17484963
You should try being a little less cheerful, anon.

>>17485008
Who cares, nerd? It's funny. Try to be more positive and laugh, or is that someone throw you off a cliff when you were a baby or something?

>>17485030
>It's funny.
It's not.

>>17485036
Okay

>>17485008
Shroedinger's stuff is fine. Western fanart is a rarity.

What are some of you're favorite openings and endings from 07th expansion's works? Personally, I'm a big fan of Occultics no Majo and Birth of a New Witch.

>>17472434
Smacking the delusional evil tranny who caused a mass murder? Count me in!

>>17485263
The Rose Guns Days ones are my favorites because they look stylish as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1rH_0ManE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S07QsIF8Lc
I hope R07 has the guy that made the visuals of the OPs in WTC5

>>17439488
..

>>17485322
Fuck off

>>17485281
Sayo did nothing wrong.

>>17485341
Not that anon, but planning a mass murder is kind of wrong, no matter the reasons.

George sympathizers are the worst Umineko fans!

>>17485382
I don't really care much for him, but I never understood the sheer amount of hate he gets. He's not even that bad of a person, just kinda bland is all. Yet for some reason he's one of the most disliked characters in a series full of emotionally broken assholes.

>>17485449
It's a meme silly

>>17485449
He's like me and I hate myself

>>17485368
What Yasu did was clearly wrong, but I still can't help but sympathize with all the shit they had to go through. At the very least, they had every right to seek revenge on Natsuhi.

>>17485481
But Yasu did nothing at the end, didn't he? Sure he planned to, but at the end his siblings were the ones to fuck things up.

>>17485449
He's basically a passive-aggressive /r9k/fag who got twisted pleasure out of cuckolding his cousin and manipulating a sad lonely girl who's much younger than him into loving him.

>>17485506
They still played some part in it by setting everything in motion with clear malicious intent.

>>17485529
What are you're thoughts on >>17484205?

>>17485529
So is it mostly due to the whole thing with Battler and Shannon? I thought people hated him even pefore that though. And his passive-aggressiveness is nothing compared to some of the other family member's negative quirks. Hell, his own mother is way worse in that respect.

>>17485540
Even if there wasn't, the fact that George made his move on Shannon out of jealousy of Battler is damning enough in itself.

>>17485559
He was always seen as kind of boring and mediocre other than maybe EP4, but EP6 and EP7 was where people began truly loathing him.

>>17485481
I don't believe in revenge, but everyone in Umi has a reason for what they did or for why they act like they do, whether is immaturity, resentment, education, necessity, ignorance or abandonment. That's why I like the characters so much. Yasu problems, physical and emotional, were very complex and he was a very very pitiful and sad figure that was impossible to not find just as tragic and likeable as the others, everyone has flaws and that why is so easy to love them.
>>17485506
It's the intention that counts, right? He's still guilty in his own conscience.
>>17485529
I always thought the hate for George was a meme, along the fat jokes. Oh well. I suppose that is because he is kinda boring and that's makes him less bearable to some but he's not nearly as bad as Rosa and Kyrie, even Battler has his moments and he is still lovable.
Seeya guys

We can give theories, that's what we do in most forums that don't have an answer.

Someone please explain the timeline of Ange Ushiromiya to me.
Like, in episode 4, we see that she jumped off of the building to join the fourth game with Bernkastel, but later we see her on Rokkenjima (before or after the building scene?). There, she uses the stakes to kill Kasumi and her agents(?) and that's it, iirc. And later in episode 6, she meets Ikuko sometime before leaving for Rokkenjima with Amakusa and she listens to Dawn...? So she continues on to the island, suspicious of Amakusa. And then in episode 7, we see her with Lion in the tea party at some point in her time. AND THEN in episode 8, we are presented with like fifty different timelines for Ange. So, she joined Battler for the 8th game, whatever. But when she reads Eva's diary that contains the truth, we're shown a scene alternate to the building part of episode 4 where she dies(?). She's revived in the golden land and then shit happens and she chooses between magic and trick. In magic, she goes on to create those children books and meets up with Battler again, but in the trick ending, she exposes Amakusa and shoots him and the owner of the boat, leaving her in the middle of the sea(?).
Please help

Quick, we've gone back in time and it's 2009 again

>>17487275
DEEEEEEEEN!

>>17485368
Sayo is pure, she was planning to bribe people to make them play dead and then give everybody the money in the end! She just wanted to teach them a lesson.

>>17479996
Worldend got me so hyped

>>17486406
It's Umineko, one of the two Anges is obviously Sayo in disguise.

>>17479106
>>17479270
Done. It should be up on sadpanda shortly. Hope you like it.

>>17487723
Not that anon, but could you elaborate more?
Haven't heard that before