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Shit.

Utterly shit.

>>17459368
The music was great

final boss was sorta meh though

>>17459368
>nigg cirno
>crazy back dancers
>god of backdoor

Strange feels...

>>17459368
I like the literal whos better after losing against them. Those very horizontally shot bullets that are still going down make me lose it

>>17459368
Those fucking backdancers spellcards though. I'd rather spend two more hours trying to figure Clownpiece's shit out.

>>17459393
Yep agreed, it was fucking shit and a huge letdown.

>>17459394
Even with the season changing through the fight and that final spellcard? Okina is fun.

I've only done one run, but I enjoyed it. The new songs are pretty good, but nothing is stuck in my head. The gameplay was fun, but I heard a lot of criticism of how broken releases were in the demo and have yet to try abusing things. I actually really liked the newhus as well, their designs are cute and I found them entertaining.

I still need to play it more to see where it ranks among the other games, but right now I'd say it's somewhere in the middle; I didn't particularly dislike anything about it, but I also didn't fall in love with anything.

>>17459368
Shoe on head

>>17459637
Try Aya Autumn on Lunatic if you want to see how broken releases are. Once you get your movement down, you pretty much never dodge bullets anymore. You just spam releases.

The thousand post thread has exactly zero content so
Any mechanic changes from the demo?
Anything beyond an extra stage?

>>17459368
I'm disappointed there's no twist.

>final boss takes away your release power to use against you
Like every other video game boss before it, this isn't really unique imo even though this is a first for Touhou, it's not really interesting

>EX stage is you getting revenge
same as above

Honestly, I was expecting something interesting from ZUN's comments like an actual male character showing up for the first time or some non-human character but instead we get Junko 2.0/Yukari and a plot rip from EE.

The only thing that got me was the door otherworld and how you go through them during the fight, but that's not saying much.

>>17459652
Heard ZUN fixed that In the full game

>>17459737
Given how much the average player will rely on both releases and their options through the entire game, being forced to use a straight shot with no releases for the final card feels like a nice change of pace. And then your Extra season is a summer that shoots behind you, which is actually used well through the entire Extra stage thanks to enemies spawning behind you and ISC-tier spellcards, so I don't have anything to complain about it.

Stage 5 is amazing in a lot of ways, weed lolis are cute.

I still think that Aunn is the fricking cutest.

>>17459723
I've unpacked .dat file and can confirm absence of Phantasm.
It seems that releases that used to fail spell capture don't do it now, although I've tried only in spell practice.

>>17459368
I played the game?

Ohhh, the link is already on moriya shrine

well fuck me then

>>17459368
Okina sure looked like she took pages from the Yukari fight with the kunai danmaku on non-spells and even having a BoWP knock-off as her non-spell. Her very first non-spell looks like it belongs to Yukari too and her theme even manages to sound almost the same as Necrofantasia. She's also a hag right?

no credits for no-1ccers, huh

well, now i'll never find out who made the game

>>17459368
The characters are unmemorable, the designs lackluster and the extra boss being the same as the final boss feels lazy, even if the plot demands so.

Music is okay, I liked the first 3 stage/boss themes more than the latter 3 though, at least it's not as bad as TD.

>>17459737
>like an actual male character showing up for the first time or some non-human character
Unzan fills both of those.

>>17459368
New characters grew on me after all, you'd think that I'd learn to expect that after the last 4 times that has happened.
Stages 4-6 are all pretty good and I think stage 4 boss is my favourite so far though the dancers are cute.

Spell cards are ok. Can be ruined by spamming releases too much.
Music is meh. Not a single song stands out.

>>17460093
That's probably because she's one of the barrier creators along with Yukari

>>17460276
I still like stage 2 theme a lot.

>>17459368
The designs grow on you as always and the music is great but not that catchy.

Like it a lot honestly. Best game since SA

>>17460276
I agree releases should be counted as a bomb. No complains beside that

>>17460376

>not that catchy.

This is a big disappointment to me. This feels like the worst OST in a long while though I understand why you might have a different opinion.

>>17460402
Leagues better than DDC and LoLK

>>17460376
>>17460409
>The music is great
The only thing I like is stage 6 theme.
Everything else feel really samey.
It's about the same as DDC but both are worse than LoLK.
I'm not saying that LoLK's music was that great. But Junko's theme is absolutely better than Little princess and whatever that song comes with Okina.

>>17460223
That's infinitely better than having "final a and final b"

>>17460417
Little Princess was great though. Best theme in DDC imo.

Stage 6 boss felt lazy. Like, the visuals and concept were neat, but the spellcards were dull and the non-spells were uninteresting too. Only good part is the doors and seasons changing, and that final card where she steals your shit.

That said, the Extra boss is Fantastic. Like, seriously, probably best Extra Since Suwako. The Spellcards were creative, they were original and had certain strategies that make you think outside the box. Fits the theme perfectly too, I particularly love that final card with the doughnuts. Compared to Junko and Hecatia's extremely difficult, but fairly generic cards, this was a huge breath of fresh air

>>17460402
The music is alright. Stage 4, Stage 6 and Extra had some pretty memorable themes. I think that newhu music takes time to grow on you. They're a bit more complex, bit less catchy, but good in a different way. It's like IN is a cheeseburger, and LoLK is Foie Gras.

Matarajin helping Yukari create the barrier is kind of disturbing, actually.
Why? Well, this implies she was in Gensokyo all the time. So why didn't someone as important as she is showed up earlier?
It doesn't make any sense in retrospective.
Yukari was introduced in PCB, second Windows game, so there's no plothole there, but this is just wrong.
Unless she's a fan of long hibernations just like Yukari is.

>>17460417
Little Princess is better than Pure Furies though. DDC OST > LoLK OST.

>>17460422
Getting less stages is considered better nowadays? What a fag you are.

>>17460417

>The only thing I like is stage 6 theme.

I agree, it was the only time in my playthrough that the music actually took my attention away from the bullets, which is something that often happened in LoLK.

Jun's creativity hits a limit after UFO.
The spells of Okina are so fucking boring. Music is samey.
The only saving grace of this game is the decent character design.

>>17460442
whats her deal anyways, why she startin this entire incident in the first place?

>>17460476
She didn't, it was the fairies going berserk, which is a natural phenomenon, kind of like PoFV.

Link?

>>17460476
>Matara sets up the game's incident to see who's going to try and solve it (in this case the heroines), and see if they are worthy of working for her. [1]
1: https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,20979.30.html

I don't know but the songs in this game sound like they came from a Zun's music CD.
They are not so bad but they are usually not catchy. As a result, it cannot bring as much hype as older games like PCB, MoF or UFO.

Can you hum any song in this game? No.
I believe I remember Yuyuko's theme after the first time I fought her.

That's why everyone is calling the music in this game bad.

>>17460510
The 'thing in common' that the stage 1~4 bosses have is that they're all usually 'hidden'. A totally unremarkable fairy, a mountain hermit, a shrine guardian who normally tries to work unseen, and a jizo statue who lives alone in the forest. (Some JP people also theorized that they have "symbols of divine worlds and/or the afterlife" in common as foreshadowing for Matarajin's whole 'world beyond' thing, which a jizo character fits in with quite nicely.)
ohhhhhhhhhh now i get it

>>17460442
>the exact same stage with a different boss
vs
>a completely new stage with the same boss but different patterns aka a different boss
>>>/v/

>>17460510
god i wish i could read moon, im dying to find out cirnos interactions if this is true

>>17460514
I think that's a fair assessment, although his CDs have memorable melodies like Welcome to the Moon Tour. He's too timbrally static. I'm tired of hearing the same guitar, the same oboe thing, the same piano articulation. He's used the same sounds since UFO

>>17460514
>Can you hum any song in this game? No.
Um, yeah. Aunn theme is pretty catchy.

>>17460227
Unzan comes with a girl retard, he doesn't count

>>17460510
Wait what? But she said she didn't cause it in her stage 6 dialogue.

The danmaku is beautiful again

>>17460585
He counts whether you like it or not.

>>17460528
Stage6A and Stage6B are very different though.
Stage portions are similiar, yes, but it's stage 6. Boss fight takes, like, 90% of it.
Eirin's patterns are nothing like Kaguya's, so your argument is invalid.

From gameplay perspective, yes, HSiFS extra stage is solid. From lore perspective, less so, as there's no new character and no return of an old character either.
Actually, it would be a better solution to make second Matarajin fight to Stage6B instead. Like, getting your first 1cc unlocks fifth season, and if you're using it, Matarajin uses different patterns, and you get Good Ending (as opposed to Normal one, because from what I've heard, "Good" endings in HSiFS look pretty similiar to what usually Bad (or, in IN case, Normal) endings are).

>>17460628
>From lore perspective, less so
Are you basing your "lore" on how many characters there are or on the game's plot?

>>17460514
I've grown to like ZUN's more atmospheric and calmer tracks (i.e. stuff from the CDs, SoEW, TD) than his catchy and hype tracks common in the earlier Windows games. They're cool, but they lose their luster due to how thematically similar they can be. Someone described them as him trying too hard to make them sound catchy they end up sounding like an ice cream truck jingle, and I haven't been able to think of them any other way since

>>17460442
>Why? Well, this implies she was in Gensokyo all the time.
She has a day job guarding the holiest Buddhist temple in Japan, she also has multiple god titles beside that as well that keeps her busy. Yukari is a NEET in comparison.

>>17460514
>>17460563
That's just part of ZUN's Musical evolution, though. Starting around UFO his work has shifted toward more complex, but less catchy and pop-sounding, melodies. A lot less hummable, but more nuanced, atmospheric, and emotional. He plays with polyphonies, different time signatures and rhythms, etc. And occasionally he does throw the fans a bone and go back to the old style, a la ClownPi.

Despite the fact that they're not as catchy, I'd definitely put Okina's theme above Sepette, or Border of Life or Necrofantasia. If catchiness was the only thing that mattered, Carly Rae Jepsen would be high art while Debussy would be garbage.

>>17460602
Eh, not for the Final boss. I thought the Danmaku was really dull, duller than Junko.
That said, the EX boss version of Okina was phenomenal, some of the most creative danmaku ZUN's made in years. Dunno why there's that disconnect. Maybe he ran outta time?

>>17460602
I honestly can't remember any pretty patterns, all I remember are dreadful curvy lasers here and there.

>>17460655
I love ZUN but he is not a composer of art music. He doesn't know how to leverage more complex structures. PC-98 and early windows including Seihou had much more clarity while being more atmospheric because of the more eclectic instrumentation. His newer work is not really even more complex. Complete Domination has more going on except with less subphrases. Better "narrative" kind of structure, too. He's not playing to his own strengths.

>>17460679
Not even the EX stage?

I don't think how can you defend such a last boss's theme.
The only good thing from it is the initial piano segment. The rest of the song is really underwhelming.
It sounds 6/10 at best. Average composition. Average instrumental works. No catchy tune.
I'm really disappointed.

>>17460709
You don't have to think of it as Art music, more like ZUN going through his prog rock phase. King Crimson isn't as catchy as the Beatles, but that doesn't make them bad. I'd disagree about the newer work not being complex, though. He's not exactly beethoven, but his early work is just really damn simple. If anything, he's gotten much better at transitioning between melodic verses, going from one section to another much more seamlessly than, say, U.N.Owen.

>>17460728
It's bleak, simple, and feels almost like a stage theme. That's not necessarily a bad thing though.

If you wanted more excitement and tension, the EX version is more along those lines. And does it really well. There's a lot of interesting stuff going on. But the final boss theme isn't bad just because it's not as hype as you expected.

>>17460641
Isn't the plot of HSiFS extra basically just heroine getting her revenge on Matarajin?
That said, maybe not. I guess it would be better to wait for a translation before discussing the story.

And you're right in that non-sequitur characters like Flandre or Nue or Raiko don't really add much.
Although they're still characters and have potential, even Raiko.

It's just me or extra stage theme sounds like Doll Maker of Bucuresti arranged in TD style? With the intro from Outsider Cocktail.

>>17460758
The seams are better but the organization in bringing the line to peaks is not. Mystic Oriental Dream is much better structured than anything in this game. ZUN doesn't presently have the skills to pull off what he's trying to accomplish, if his goal is what you say it is.

>>17460628
You're missing the point.
Playing the game once and getting both stages in the form of an extra stage is better than playing the game once, then playing the exact same game all over again to get to the "real" last boss. People would really be pissed if they had to do the latter and end up facing the same boss they did the first time around.

I doubt this was intentional, though. He was probably rushed and came up with this at the last second. Real Last Bosses are the crappiest way to pad out a game, and I'm glad to see it go.

Is it just me or are the stage 5 nonspells the hardest thing in the whole game

>>17460804
I think that's just nostalgia at this point. I'd argue that the Stage 4 theme in 16 is just as good, as well as several others. You go back and listen to MOD again and it's just balatantly obvious how pathetic the harmonies and precussion is. Not that ZUN's fantastic at them today, mind you, he's still too reliant on Kick snare kick snare, but he's certainly gotten a lot better.

>>17460842
Nope, not just you. I had to bomb two of them. I'm not good at dodging two separate waves of bullet with different pacing.

>pink blossoms exactly the same as pink kunai
How many fucking years has it been and he still can't get the colors right?

>>17460925
I think this is part of the point for this game. Different season subshots will give you this problem on different patterns until your eyes get used to it enough to ignore the season items

It was alright, these two are cute.
TD is still my personal fave though.

>>17461187
>It was alright, these two are cute.
Since they are the personal servants of Matarajin, it means any porn would basically involve all three at the same time.

Can someone summarize the plot for me?

>>17461273
I second that

>>17461273
2hu sat on her chair and reclined too much, then she GOT UP

I liked the music and the characters in the second half and Matara's fight was fun, albeit easy for a stage six boss. On the note of Matara I'm cool with her being the final and extra boss, but only because this is the first time ZUN's done it (Assuming Alice doesn't count)

>>17461236
Hopefully, since they're grouped with the final boss, they won't be forgotten like the Aki sisters and Benben and Benben's sister.

Sexualize the Newhus.

>>17461187
>TD is my personal fave
I never thought I'd see the day someone says this. Actually, I really liked TD outside of its gameplay, so its nice to see someone else who doesn't despise it.

>>17461310
I wouldn't say it's the same as Alice, this extra stage is a continuation of the plot whereas MS's extra is practically unrelated.

I was hoping for a bigger enemy faction. They're cute, but I don't think these characters will be very useful for fanworks.

>>17461386
This is one of the reasons why EoSD is so popular, the characters are more of archetypes that anyone can get the hang of instead of LORE-heavy ones with nuanced designs.

Newhus will never be popular as the old ones, even if I still love them.

>>17461383
Ten Desires was my favorite too.
I liked the general formatting and style, Miko was hype, most of the bosses delivered on a very clear gimmick that was enjoyable for an unskilled player like myself.
In the wake of the game release we got a lot of very strong remix tracks out of the OST that solidified the game's identity.
Also Mamizou is my favorite touhou so that helps a lot.

>>17461386
>I was hoping for a bigger enemy faction. They're cute, but I don't think these characters will be very useful for fanworks.
Well in this case there isn't a faction, just a deity and her two servants. The others introduced are just regular magical creatures who aren't bad people.
And it seems the season effects are caused by fairies who were normally the ones controlling the seasons. That Cirno being sunburnt is one such abnormality.

>>17461344
I never forgot about Shizuha and Minomino! Benben also used to be my favourite DDC. Until Banki somehow superceded her one day.

I'm still a bona fide BNBNfag though. Honest! I can even spell Yatsuhashi's name!

>>17461310
technically Sariel back in HRtP had two boss fights, one where she went at you normally and the other where she went apeshit with awesome music to go with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vtd_uyO1uY

Game's good. Difficulty is kind of all over the place, though

>>17461273
It's just one extremely violent job interview.

The whole incident was Okina's doing to scout out a powerful new servant to replace these two >>17461187 to become her new stand in.

There is a slight black comedy here as the two don't even realize that the goal of their involvement in this incident is to get rid of themselves as they no longer serve Okina any purpose. The protag reaches Okina and finds out everything than refuse the job offer causing a fight.

Then there is the twist ZUN talked about which has you losing the fight against Okina in the final stage and having to finish the job in the Extra Stage.

>>17461801
I heard that Okina is pretty much evil, like, straight-up evil, is that true?

I'm just here to say that Illusionary White Traveler is Desire Drive levels of fantastic. And both are the stage 4 theme that gets remixed into the credits sequence in their respective games.

Okina canon strongest 2hu

>>17461801
There's also a degree that she wanted to showcase her power and be revered across Gensokyo. Which she definitely accomplishes.

Also the seasons going crazy was a result of the recruitment process. Okina's dancers were going around powering up random people, including fairies and spirits whose natural environmental powers impacted the various landscapes.

is anybody going to upload the ost? i wanna listen to some sick tunes

>>17461386
I picture it being a LoLK type-dealie only more exemplified in that the fairy character will probably be salvaged for the fairies manga and then all the rest will swiftly be forgotten once their plot is resolved.

>>17461847
LoLK's cast was hardly forgotten.

Though yeah, I can see it happening here. The joke with most of these characters is that they are hidden all the time.

>>17461846
>>17460480

>>17461809
>I heard that Okina is pretty much evil, like, straight-up evil, is that true?
Well for what it's worth, for some bizzare Buddist reason the three of them are suppose to represent the three major sins of Buddhism. Why the hell does a deity and her servants end up representing sins is not explained anywhere. Religion be crazy, yo.
(Delusion, Greed, and Aversion.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_poisons

>>17461951
>Delusion
Yep, it's Mima all right.

>>17461844
>There's also a degree that she wanted to showcase her power and be revered across Gensokyo.
It was more like a side objective much like how the religious factions aim to gather Faith to sustain themselves but sometimes get it anyway as a consequence of some other endeavor of theirs.

Since Okina's power as a god mainly comes from the fact merely remembering she exists at the back of your mind as a afterthought is what sustains her.

She's ridiculously powerful as being a Hidden god is so vague it means she is the god of everything by existing in everything really. The closest thing to the Judau-Christian almighty single god in Gensokyo.

Keep in mind her role as a Gensokyan Sage is the actual Guardian (security) as opposed to Yukari who is a Administrator (janitor).

>Also the seasons going crazy was a result of the recruitment process.
Funny thing is how the other 3 refuse the job. In Cirno's route she qualifies too but Okina is like 'wtf who let this Fairy in' and won't offer Cirno it. So Fairy discrimination.

>>17461809
She isn't straight up evil so much as she's a God in the most traditional sense if you ever read any myths so really bipolar and unreasonable.

If you're on her good side she'll bless you to live like a King, accidentally disrespect her and she'll just rain hellfire on you no matter how trivial a grievance.

>>17462134
>Funny thing is how the other 3 refuse the job. In Cirno's route she qualifies too but Okina is like 'wtf who let this Fairy in' and won't offer Cirno it. So Fairy discrimination.
It is interesting if you merge this lore with Buddhist doctrine. If Okina follow the traditional doctrine, it means she considers fairies to be entirely separate from every other living thing. Souls are suppose to reincarnate and take form as many things, but for Okina to treat fairies differently to humans would imply that fairiy souls are not the same as any other souls.

We know that fairies don't really stay dead, that they reborn as themselves with ease. This could mean that they are segregated from regular reincarnation systems. A soul can reincarnate as any kind of living thing, but apparently not as a fairy. That fairies really are considered cosmologically lesser creatures.

It is telling that there are no fairies in Byakuren's temple. She might believe in salvation for all life including monsters, but it seems that salvation doesn't apply for fairies.

Do the newhus already have lewds?

>>17462200
According to TD there are fairies in Myouren Temple

>>17462293
Kogasa hangs around the cemetery too, doesn't make her an actual part of the Myouren Temple.

>>17460439
Suwako sucked.

>>17461187
Le boot hat

>>17459737
>Wanting a male in a touhou game

Fuck you

>>17461187
I see that they're going to be the yuri ship of HSiFS.

>>17460514
Crazy Backup Dancers stood out to me. The only other ZUN track I can think of that's as strangely jazzy is Greenwich in the Sky.

>>17462316
Not belonging to the temple doesn't make them disappear though.

>>17462351
I wish Suwako would suck me.

>>17462200
In their comic, weren't they afraid of going to Byakuren's temple because it would cause them to unexist or something? I'd look for the pages myself if I wasn't trying to beat 16 with Aya.

I would've really liked the final spell card if they didn't take away all of your power along with the season.

>>17462561
>I would've really liked the final spell card if they didn't take away all of your power along with the season.
I think if the rumours are true in that it is impossible to capture that spellcard in the time allocated, then you are better off just dumping all your bombs on it.

>>17462584
Its possible, you just have to deal with needing to move around a lot.

>>17462559

>>17462584
They're not, I captured Normal Winter

So how the fuck did Cirno manage to get that far anyway? Was it the incident's fault making fairies (including her) stronger that allowed her to go out there and beat Okina (on Extra)?

>>17462655
Yup. Hoist by her own petard.

this game sucks
666

>>17462655
My moon's pretty shit and I skipped through half of it but Okina says some things about the power in her wings that seemed to imply she was using borrowed power.

if someone else can expand on this or tell me I'm retarded that would also be appreciated

>>17462134
>Funny thing is how the other 3 refuse the job. In Cirno's route she qualifies too but Okina is like 'wtf who let this Fairy in' and won't offer Cirno it. So Fairy discrimination.
So with Reimu, she was rejected. Reimu didn't care because she just want to beat up the boss.

With Marisa, she was actually chosen. Maria doesn't want the job because she is happy with her current life, and Okina basically said "I don't say I have you a CHOICE. You are staying whether you want to or not." So they fought.

Aya?
I will have to leave it to real translators, but it seems Okina has reasons acting antagonistic towards the Tengu species as a whole. This is likely not related to Buddhist lore but are instead based on what occurred in Gensokyo.

>>17462655
>So how the fuck did Cirno manage to get that far anyway?
The two servants went around Gensokyo powering up random people, and they just happened to do it to Cirno as well.

>>17459368
The stages are the hardest part of the game. I haven't even gotten my first 1cc and i managed to get to beat the game in one run. That last spellcard chewed up a few continues though, damn.

>>17459737
>Genji as an Extra boss.

This is a really bad game. It's not dividing as LoLK with a strong hatebase and fanabse, it's just extremely meh.

>>17462655
Cirno strongest touhou confirmed

>>17464045
How do you feel about DDC? HSiFS strikes me as kind of similar.

>>17464089
Yeah, it was samey. I think DDC is a bit better than this game but honestly I find both kinda dull.

>>17464045
Cool bosses specially the last one, excellent music, accessible difficulty, 16 different combinations + Ayaya and the Baka.

Seriously, how is all that bad?

>>17461558
The popularit of LoLK's cast is pretty close to that of some of the old games' girls

>>17464124
>Cool bosses specially the last one
The design is great but her spell cards are really lame. I don't remember a single one except for the last one because of forced power + seasonal gauge removal.
>excellent music
I will sound like a pleb but the music is opted for atmospheric feeling. I can't remember or hum along to a single song. This is the first 2hu game where my most favorite song is stage 6's theme. I'm not saying that it abyssal bad but it's meh. You can find that many people agree with this in this thread.
>accessible difficulty
How is that a good thing? It can attract new people to play 2hu, yes. But that doesn't mean it is good for old players.
>16 different combinations + Ayaya and the Baka
Aya is decent but Cirno's balance is off (below) the chart. She's really weak I don't know why Zun bothered to put her in the game at all. Her main bullet can't clear enemies wave as fast as it should. Cirno's shot type is an inferior version of Sakuya's B in PCB.
Overall, in term of shooting combination, the balance is all over the places.
16 shooting combinations do not mean that it is a good thing.

Seeing the plot for the game, I wonder why didnt ZUN just add someone that can be more "tied in" to the whole job interview plot, like Sanae, and instead add meme girl Cirno

>Cirno was powered up be the duo in stage 5
>Cirno was able to beat them
I don't get it. Shouldn't they be stronger than Cirno if they are the ones who give Cirno strength?

>>17464452
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventors_killed_by_their_own_inventions

>https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Okina_Matara
>She is also one of the sages who created the Gensokyo of today.
So she's the creator of Gensokyo? Disappointingly underwhelming. And if she has never actually hides, why does no one knows about her?

>>17464429
>Seeing the plot for the game, I wonder why didnt ZUN just add someone that can be more "tied in" to the whole job interview plot, like Sanae, and instead add meme girl Cirno
Cirno is relevant because the seasonal abnormalities are actually caused by the fairies going haywire. And Cirno was the physical representatives of this. This is actually an accidental side effect.

>>17464505
>So she's the creator of Gensokyo? Disappointingly underwhelming. And if she has never actually hides, why does no one knows about her?
She has many different divine jobs, each by themselves not very important. But combined she end up with a lot of responsibilities. Even her Wikipedia article talks about the multiple gods that she is "suppose" to be. Her religious status is not nailed down.

When you look up info about a temple, which do you care more about, the main god representing the shrine, or the god that was assigned to guard that shrine? Okina is a Guardian god, but just like the Secret Service her duties are not publicised.

>>17464505
One of the creators. A lot of people were involved with Gensokyo's creation, plus the Dragon God. This is old news, anon.

>>17464429
Sanae already works for the Moriya Shrine, and all other previously playable characters have their own affiliations

>>17464200
>I will sound like a pleb but the music is opted for atmospheric feeling. I can't remember or hum along to a single song
Not the whole game. Aunn and Stage 1 are great non-atmospheric themes. It might not have as much as LoLK, but that's not that fair of a comparison considering LoLK has excellent music.

>>17464200
Cirno Summer clears faeries like no one. The stages are much easier with her. She's bad for bosses though.

>>17464505
>>17464527
>>17464549
So let me rundown the hierarchy structure of Gensokyo :
Ruler
>Dragon God (possibly Yellow Dragon)

Sages
>Yukari Yakumo (Youkai Administrator)
>Matara Okina (Goddess Guardian)
>Kasen Ibaraki??? (Deva Oni with unknown role)

Sentry
Reimu Hakurei (Shrine Maiden Sentinel)

Religious Leaders
>Kanako Yasaka (Shinto sect)
>Byakuren Hijiri (Buddhist sect)
>Toyosamimi Miko (Taoist sect)

what else???

>>17465191
>Kasen Ibaraki??? (Deva Oni with unknown role)
Wait, when was Kasen confirmed as a sage?
Anyway, there are some independent fractions:
>Former hell
>Scarlet mansion

What about heaven (Tenshi and Iku)?

>>17465410

>>17465426
>>17465191
Then this brings another question. If Yukari and Kasen are both sages, then why don't they act like they don't know each other?

>>17465447
Because no one sees them at this part >>17465426. Outside of that, maybe they avoid each other to prevent anyone connect the dots between them.

Best game since 12

>>17465191
Dragon god doesn't exist, never mentioned directly by ZUN in the Gensokyo articles and only stated to have any power in a book edited by youkai

When will we go back to silly youkai/ghosts doing silly youkai/ghosts thing?

>>17465893
I found the plot to be quite silly.
But then again, anything would seem silly after LoLK.

>>17465961
Whats wrong with a god putting out a job recruitment ad and trying to gain followers

>>17465961
I agree. While LoLK did a pretty good job in setting up the urgency to quell the incident, I feel as though it's a bit out of place in Touhou. I'm hoping we get another extra-dimensional incident again but this time with a more wackier/sillier and lighthearted background.

>>17465410
Heaven and Makai are not normally connected to Gensokyo, nor is the Netherworld.
The former two are pretty much independent.

>Link has been out for less than a day
>Don't care for doing any more runs
What went wrong? Back to LoLK it is for me.

>>17464124
>Cool bosses
Oh boy do I love a character being shoved down my throat twice with 20 spell cards, especially when as an important stage 6 boss her spell cards are fucking bland. At least Junko's were challenging and fun
>Excellent music
Yeah mostly but ZUN really fumbled with stage 6 boss and extra boss theme, I mean I won't deny it they're great but they're just more of the same and they don't stand out at all. For the extra boss theme there's only one part I'm in love with, the rest can be changed for all I care.

So overall HSiFS had a great concept but he dropped the ball in the most important moments, making the game shit.

>>17466109
>At least Junko's were challenging and fun
What the fuck is this shit. Junko's patterns in both stage 6 and the Extra were absolute shit. Okina's spellcards (random dodging) are far more interesting and fun to capture than Junko's (micro dodging).

>>17466212
>random dodging
Ah yes, gotta love piss easy non-dense spell cards.

Also, forgot to mention Okina's design holds exactly the SAME concept as Junko's.

>all those people mad because they don't get more newhus

>>17465447
She makes reference to someone else that plays with boundaries in Reimu's extra. She's at least acquainted with Yukari.

>>17465889
>“But you see, dragons are the highest gods of Gensokyo, they can bring creation or destruction. They are on a different level from the youkai around here by one or two orders of magnitude.”

This is from Curiosities of Lotus Asia anon

>>17466255
In another timeline, there is a unique extra boss and even a phantasm boss in the game but people there complain about ZUN adding too much and are mad that their favorite old 2hu didn't get the spotlight.

But seriously, it couldn't have hurt to have more than 7 new characters per game, right? The last one that did it was DDC but that's only because Benben and not Benben came as a dual boss.

>>17466255
Having the same character as a final and extra boss is a huge stab to the game's content. Usually extra expands much more on the story or shows a different side of it giving it much more depth, this time it's just revenge: the stage. Really really lazy and effortless

I wish I could stop choking on stages 1-3

>>17459368
>shoe on head
ZUN's running out of ideas.

>>17466662

Stage 5 and 6 reminded me of this image

Also stage 6's theme reminds me of the beginning of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS_j2KHK3dg

>>17459552
The talisman danmaku are more annoying than curvy lasers really

>>17461273
Okina is an attention whore and is also looking for new servants.

What's interesting is how important she seems to be to Gensokyo, she seems to be above Yukari in terms of power over Gensokyo.
I really hope ZUN will expand on this in the future.

>>17466362
>>17466370
>>17466255


Why don't people complain this much about the recent games almost always using the same midboss for the stage boss? The earlier games had different midbosses and bosses for lots of stages.

I really like it, but I'm a little disappointed by the characters and music. Don't get me wrong, they're all good, but I just had higher expectations for some things. ZUN's music really has changed - a lot less ZUNpet and the songs have been harder and harder to hum or even remember just because instead of a simple, catchy melody, the songs are much more elaborate and complex. It's very nice listening to them and obviously they took more effort to make, but I just miss Touhou music being simple and catchy. As for the characters, I'm very satisfied as far as their designs, lore, and art go. However, I'm disappointed that there's no new extra boss. Having one stage be a duo of characters has never been an excuse to not have an extra boss.

>>17460417
DDC is great in terms of soundtrack though.

>>17459865
That's too bad, Extra was too easy, hoped for some secret level.

>>17466842
Not him, but I didn't find DDC's OST to be outstanding. The menu screen, stage 5, and everything after that was absolutely excellent; the rest of the music, however, wasn't great. Plus, he went nuts with the shitty electric guitar that he introduced in NToJ. The difference is that he only had the electric guitar for brief segments or as a background instrument in NToJ, while it was the lead instrument for a lot of DDC.

>>17466362
Why are you talking like that's a pattern? The only other Windows games that introduced exactly 7 new characters are TD and LoLK.

>>17466370
>extra expands much more on the story
Not really. Flandre, Suwako, Nue, and Raiko didn't really add much to the story.
>Really really lazy and effortless
Meanwhile LoLK Extra had the worst stage portion out all of them and copy-paste Junko micro dodge attacks with horrible hit boxes. This extra was the best one since TD. ZUN should have recolored the final boss's outfit and said it was her sister to satisfy people like you, since having a new character is apparently all that matters.

>>17466370
I'd rather have some plot continuity than "oh by the way I have a little sister and she's crazy/oh by the way I have a rival and she hates me/oh by the way there's an original god that, well I don't even know that much/oh by the way I have a little sister and she's crazy 2/oh by the way I called a friend of mine and fuck you we're going to beat you/oh by the way here's another tsukumogami that's only there as a very lousy excuse to not kill Benben and Yatsuwho"

Anyway, I really liked the EX dialogue.

>>17459737
>plot rip from EE
What?

>>17459368
>>17459393
>>17459394
>>17459564

He had two years for the game.

Stage 1, 2, and 4 have totally boring and generic backgrounds/settings.

Extra stage is a recycled stage - again.

No new extra boss - it's just the stg 6 boss.

Music was good, and stage 3 was beautiful.

>>17467018
I like stage 1, 2 and 4 themes too.

>>17467069
Len'en~Evanescent Existence

>>17467199
Ah, because of the "I want to find someone to replace X".

>>17467199
And not only that, even the release system seems like an improvement of the flashbomb system of Len'en.

>>17466370
>Having the same character as a final and extra boss is a huge stab to the game's content.
How? You're still getting 10 extra spellcards + however many nonspells, the only difference is that it's a familiar face throwing them at you instead of some literally who.

Why was Reimu disqualified by Okina anyway?
Aya and Marisa are acceptable as her new servant right?

>>17467277
>Why was Reimu disqualified by Okina anyway?
>Aya and Marisa are acceptable as her new servant right?
I am still waiting on a translation on Reimu's storyline. But it seems Aya being a Tengu meant Okina has an actual feud with her, due to some Gensokyo past.

As for Marisa, she is perfect an exactly what Okina is looking for. Maria wasn't interested in the job, but Okina became very evil when she said "I never said you had a choice to refuse me!"

Basically the job meant the new recruit would become a vessel for Okina. The translated side info implied that the two dancers have lost their free will and that their own powers are an extension of Okina's, that they are Okina's literal representatives and are basically mental slaves.

>>17467308
Here is the translation for Reimu's route:
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Hidden_Star_in_Four_Seasons/Story/Reimu%27s_Scenario
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Hidden_Star_in_Four_Seasons/Story/Reimu%27s_Extra

I think Reimu's job is important enough and Okina knows that she can't be a servant (because that would mean abandoning the shrine).

What is the main instrument in Illusionary White Traveller? ZUN's been using it a lot since UFO and it bugs me that I don't know what it's called.

>>17467333
Reed Romance, it's a special type of saxophone on the synthesizer zun uses.

>>17467308
>and are basically mental slaves.
Pretty ironic considering Satono's power.

>>17467308
>>17467451
This shit is pretty dark honestly.

>>17467451
>Pretty ironic considering Satono's power.
>>17467532
>This shit is pretty dark honestly.

It is also interesting that Okina actually slightly apologises the two dancers that they couldn't be replaced just yet. It sounds like the only reason she was looking for replacements, is because Okina know it is not nice to enslave people forever, and in fact was basically wanting to free these two with the new recruit. Basically she knows she owns slaves, and want to feel better by switching the slaves with different people occasionally.

I still don't know the different between Okina's power and Yukari's.

>>17467546
>I still don't know the different between Okina's power and Yukari's.
Yukari has power over walls. Okina has power over doors.

Yukari can imitate a door by ripping a barrier open, but once she no longer sustains it the gap closes. Okina creates doors that are semi-permanent structures. After she makes the door she can walk away and the door stays.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/THWiki_Popularity_Poll
>True Admin is ranked 44 this year
I can't wait to see all songs in this game ranked below 50. Shit music.

>>17467559
Listen to Eternity theme. Prety good one for a Stage 1 boss.

>>17467559
You're a shit music.

The only bad songs here are the stage 2 and 5 themes.

>>17467578
People said the same for TD too and look where most of the songs in that game placed in the ranking.
The majority knows which song is shit.

>>17467587
So, by majority vote, U.N Owen is the best 2tu music ever and nothing surpasses it.

>>17467616
>>17467559
It's hard to compare songs so close in rank.
I would say that all songs in top 10 are the best of 2hu, all songs in the next 10 are the second best, etc.
But in the end, it's you who matters. You DON'T actually like a song just because most of the voters like it, do you?

>>17467559
>THWiki broke

wuuut?

>>17467660
Someone forgot to update the database kek.

>>17467670
It must be the work of someone...

Okinaaaaa

>>17467587
>popularity = quality
Oh no, it's retarded.

>>17462655
She's really motivated.

>>17467308
>As for Marisa, she is perfect an exactly what Okina is looking for.
I actually kind of wonder if this is the reason Yukari chose to appear before Marisa of all people in LoLK as a nod towards Okina's showing.

>>17467814
And blue.

>>17467559
>stage 1
>stage 4
>stage 6
Try paying more attention to stage themes.

>Stage 4 doesn't explode when you kill her
>End up losing a life because of it.
BULL SHIT

>>17467872
da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa…

>>17467935
>>Stage 4 doesn't explode when you kill her
>>End up losing a life because of it.
>BULL SHIT
She IS a stone statue.

>>17467935
JIZOU ISN'T A GOOD GIRL AT ALL

>>17460417
>The only thing I like is stage 6 theme.
ZUN makes great, great stage 6 themes consistently.

I don't like that much the tracks in this game but Into Backdoor was the shit, plus that title drop.

>>17467954
>JIZOU ISN'T A GOOD GIRL AT ALL
It isn't her fault that you smashed your own skull against her stone body.

>>17467943
Yo, listen up, here's a story
about a little girl who lived in a blue world...

>>17461769
my favotire boss in the series

Are there any theories regarding Okina and her relationship with Yukari yet? Okina being a sage of Gensokyo means that she played a key role in establishing it. We know that Yukari made the Great Hakurei Barrier, but what did Okina do?

Perhaps Maribel, one of the few remaining believers in deities and youkai (maybe she's even part youkai; the ability to see boundaries has been in her blood since ancient times) piqued Okina's interest, and caused her to work with Maribel to establish Gensokyo.

My hypothesis is that Gensokyo didn't actually exist in Maribel's reality to anyone except for her - going to the TORIFUNE was like a dream to Renko, but it was very real for Maribel. Before Gensokyo was established, gods and youkai were mixed in with the outside world, where technology and science were advancing, causing faith in these gods or belief of youkai to rapidly decline. Either with help from Okina, another sage, or with her own powers, Maribel went back in time. Over the course of +400 years, she changed her name to Yukari Yakumo, honed her powers, designed the Great Hakurei Barrier, got to know the place and its inhabitants, and became a full-on youkai. Eventually, she finally had it created with the help of both humans and youkai.

Still not sure what Okina's role was, but it was really interesting thinking about all this stuff.

>>17468042
Do we know how many sages there are?

>>17468063
We only know of three. Yukari, Kasen, and now Okina

>>17468076
>Kasen
Do you have any facts to back that up?

>>17465426

>>17468080 <---

>>17464124
I think its just really MEH
Unlike LoLK were most of the bosses are memorable, Here only the finally bosses work
also taking up to different stages pissed me off

>>17468084
Huh, that's interesting. I wonder if the Hakurei deity is a sage as well.

What is your five most favorite tracks so far?

1. Secret God Matara ~ Hidden Star in All Seasons.
2. A Pair of Divine Beasts
3. Deep-Mountain Encounter
4A. White Traveler
4B. Illusionary White Traveler
5. The Colorless Wind on Youkai Mountain

The stage 1 theme is too similar to the stage 1 theme of LoLK to feel fresh, otherwise it would be #5.

>>17468123
Illusionary White Traveller is by far my favorite. It sounds so pleasant.

>>17467040
>Having less content is good
It's because of retards like you that game series go to die. It's not my fault that you're shit against Junko, but she's fairly doable in the extra. The stage itself isn't either hard or easy. It's just an extra, like many many others.

>Flandre, Suwako, Nue, and Raiko didn't really add much to the story.
And this is how I know you don't know jackshit. I'll give you Flandre, but Suwako explains how did the Moriya Shrine arrive to Gensokyo and it's backstory, Nue explains what's the deal with the flying silo and what part it played in the story and the DDC extra goes indepth about the side effects of the Miracle Mallet.

>>17467045
Lmao so "yeah here have the dialogue we could've just given you during stage 6 and be satisfied pretending it expands on the story" is better? Anyone can pretend a stage adds nothing by conveniently forgetting everything that it in facts add, retard.

>>17465426
>Touhou decides to reveal sages.
>/jp/ decides to hide sages

Really activates my almonds.

Did one run (with continues) just to see how the game played out before I tried practicing it much. Seems pretty good, I think the music could be my favorite in the series. Definitely going to be listening to it a lot from now on. Some parts of stage 4 absolutely fuck me and Narumi's giant sun card doesn't help either. I really liked the backup dancers and their gimmick even if it's a little similar to prismrivers. Okina was alright I guess, only made it like halfway through the final card. Kind of wondering what her extra fight will be like.

>>17466212
Junko spell are suppose to be simple and deadly

>>17467988
Blue his house with a blue little window
And a blue Corvette

>>17468135
Not him but who are you quoting? He said nothing about having less content being good.

>>17468225
It makes sense there is always a breeze, as the portal must always have some kind of air pressure difference.

So, even if Hecatia is the strongest character so far lorewise, can we assume that Okina + Yukari combined power would somehow match it? Or do you need Dragon God's power to the mix?

>>17468042
I think that the most poetic way to end Touhou would be to have Maribel wake up from a coma, revealing that it was all just a coma dream and that Maribel is just a normal girl. I know that "it was just a dream!" is a huge cliche, but it would really make sense for Touhou. Maribel can rarely differentiate dream and reality, Yukari is omniscient and can manipulate anything she wants, most of the staff roll themes have the word "dream" in them (I'm sad DDC ended this trend), and ZUN is quite the dreamer himself. After reading his CD afterwords, it really strikes me as something he would do.

I would probably prefer him to end it on a CD, rather than a game. A Peaceful Romancer arrangement would be an excellent note to end it on, since he made it with the intent that it would be the very last Touhou song.

>>17468298
I'm not sure if being super powerful is a requirement for being a sage; I believe that the determinant for being a sage would be to have an essential part in creating the Great Hakurei Barrier. It makes sense that saves WOULD be powerful, but Kasen doesn't strike me as a character that is on the same level as Yukari or Okina as far as power-wise.

Do the crazy backup dancers actually have shoes on their heads? Can't tell what else they could be.

>>17465889
t. secondary

>>17465889
Iku has probably met him before, considering she's his messenger and draws power from him.

Plus, there were a LOT of youkai present for the creation of the Hakurei Barrier, and the Dragon God is said to be so fucking huge that he causes skies to darken from blocking the sun.

Lastly, EVERYONE in Gensokyo believes in him. If he really was fabricated, he would eventually have manifested from all of that faith.

>>17466356

>Trusting the words of the characters

Waiting on SCoOW direct ZUN for dragons / dragon god, none yet even in the article about Gensokyo

>>17465191
The Hakurei God is likely a sage, but that's just complete speculation.

>>17468483

None of this is ever stated in third person omniscient. It's all the tales of characters.

>>17467559
Shit opinion.

>>17468592
If multiple characters make the same plausible statement independently of each other, it's probably true unless we're given some reason to think otherwise.

>>17468384
>Do the crazy backup dancers actually have shoes on their heads? Can't tell what else they could be.
It's a traditional hat. It is what the original Buddhist characters wears.

>>17467935
WELCOME TO THE RICE FIELDS MOTHERFUCKER

>>17468592
Are you implying that every character that believes in the Dragon God is a liar or an idiot? He's well accepted as a god by humans and youkai alike, I'm pretty sure FS has evidence of this. Lots of youkai that have lived since before the creation of the barrier believe in him and have probably seen him. Even if it was trickery by the sages, he probably would have manifested in the 1.2 thousand years of having a ton of believers.

>>17468682
The idea that everyone believes in/worships him is the tall tale, you would have seen some sort of actual praying or worship beyond a dragon-shaped barometer (that is the thing in FS, "let's not go out on purple days"). There may be a dragon-shaped god, but there is not actual evidence of its power.

The characters at least seem to agree on sages creating Gensokyo, you never hear anyone talk about "Dragon, our highest god" which would be common if it was actually revered by almost everyone.

>>17468123
>a pair of divine breasts

>>17468210
But he implied it was acceptable. Repeated boss battles = less content

>>17469032
Good thing HSiFS doesn't have those, then.

>>17468123
1. A Pair of Divine Beasts
2. Into the Backdoor
3. Crazy Backup Dancers
4. Does the Forbidden Door Lead to this World or the World Beyond?

>>17469032
>Repeated boss battles = less content
Have you even played the game or did you seriously not realize the two fights are different?

>>17469062
>he wants the same character being shoehorned into half of the entire game
Kill yourself.

>>17469069
The boss is repeated, not the battle you mongoloid.

>>17469106
Then how is it "less content"?

>>17469090
>he wants
Put that back in your ass.

>>17469106
Then what's the damn problem? Are you really this offended by the boss sprite being the same? Man, I can't even imagine what you must think of Orin.

>>17469117
Less story, less variety, less everything.

>>17469138
Lol implying a boss battle and a couple mid-boss ones compare to a bitch getting an entire 20 spell cards

>>17459737
Touhou itself has never done this type of thing before which is what makes this game have a twist at all

>>17469173
Why is the idea of a game having slightly less lore stuff "Unacceptable"? And how does it translate to "less content"? You still have an Extra stage and an EX Boss, the EX Boss being the same as the final boss makes no difference.

Okina is a good girl

Lunarians are sad there are now two Yukaris. There won't be any sake left.

>>17469173
>Less story
Bitch, we got a 7-stage story rather than 6 like usual.
>less variety
In what regard? You still get 15 (final + extra) spellcards, be those two bosses different or not.
>less everything.
The only thing "less" here is the total amount of characters. Which is still 7, by the way.

I love it. Aunn spinoff please!

Also, Okina would be an excellent partner for Yukari in AoCF. I know it's a little off topic, but I would really like to see some interesting duos in AoCF. Junko and Reisen, Kosuzu and Reimu, Keine and Eirin, stuff like that.

>>17469173
>a bitch getting an entire 20 spell cards
Satori has 19 though, or does that last one make you upset?

Story:
Meh/10
Patterns:
Meh/10
Characters:
Meh/10
Gameplay gimmick:
Meh/10

Not even mad. Just another one to the pile.

>>17469357
Can't really see Yukari or Eirin showing up in AoCF. Nor Okina for that matter, her game is too recent. I imagine Junko will show up, though.

>>17469176
Yes, but it doesn't feel like a twist despite that imo

>>17469213
The fact that you fight Okina again in Extra after getting a new power and she powers up actually gives this game even more story stuff. I have no idea why those people are complaining so much when both fights are completely different.
And then you remember how Yukari is literally Ran+ (including the music) but nobody ever complains about that.

>>17468123
The stage 1 and stage 4 themes might be my favorites in the series so far, and I like Okina's themes and the extra stage as well. Crazy Backup Dancers has been stuck in my head for days too

>>17469173
Okina is the most story relevant character we've had in a long time

>>17469500
>people
It's just one guy.

>>17469409
Give it time.

>>17469500
>Yukari is just Ran+
To this day I still wish ZUN had done more to make the fights different besides "Yukari is slightly harder but you already learned the fight from Ran so you'll still be spending less time on Yukari"

>>17469409
You're clearly not enjoying the franchise anymore, just quit, I don't get it. I'm not even shitposting, I plain don't get, if I start disliking how a franchise is going I just stop following it.

I really like the stage music, like seriously like it.
Haven't been feeling like this about the matter since IN.

For example stage 1 is a perfect opening and the way it evolves is very nice, it reminds me of The Childlike Duo's Naturalis Historia.
Stage 4 is also fantastic, being somewhat the opposite of stage 1.

>>17469837
That's a very short sighted way of thinking. I was feeling pretty meh about the franchise also until DDC. But now back to a little bit meh. Who's to say the next game won't peak my interest though? Why quit when you can just wait?

Really I think that's the cycle. For me the games alone are only a few hours of enjoyment when they come out. But doujins add value to the series indefinitely. While this set of newhus has a very muted color pallet and dull costuming I'm sure they'll become much more appealing portrayed by other artists.

>>17469931
DDC was that kind of game for me too. I really loved the characters and the tone of the game.

>>17469837
I've been following Touhou for what, 10 years? It's one of the franchises that's part of my life such as Pokemon and Sonic. You don't just "stop following" the games that you grew up with.

>>17470389
I don't actively follow Sonic anymore despite it being my first game and growing up with him.
I'm grabbing Mania but that's besides the point

>>17469493
Probably because you already knew who the ex boss was before playing

I wish I didn't suck at it, because I like it a lot but fuck up badly such that I can't pass stage 4's boss.

Here's some comics (technically not about LoLK).

>>17470448
I think if you read Japanese you'd know who the EX Boss was after stage 6

>>17467559
>Mamizou
>64 this year
I don't dislike her but honestly she deserves it for being so forced on everything

I like this picture.

>westerns ask about publishing on Steam
>Zun says no because muh doujin, muh indie, muh irl interaction
>japanese people publishing games on PS4 is ok though :^)
He's racist as fuck

There will be a doujin when Okina first recruited the dancers, she forced them to have sex with faceless old men.
I can feel it in my bones.

>>17470621
I can feel it in my bone too buddy. It's too bad we have to wait months until the next big batch of doujins featuring newhus.

>>17470605
>>>/v/

>>17470605
Who are you quoting?

>>17470673
Common sense.

>>17470621
>she forced them to have sex with faceless old men.
Nah. It's gonna be about Okina fucking them with her large futa cock until they become her slaves.

>>17470621
Okina doujins will probably have lots and lots of anal because backdoors and stuff.

>>17470707
Is there any Touhou doujin with this kind of plot?

Not baiting.

>>17470771
There's probably one with Yukari and Ran, I dunno.

>>17468123
1. A Midsummer Fairy's Dream
2. Crazy Backup Dancers
3. Swim in a Cherry Blossom-Colored Sea
4. Unnatural Nature
5. Secret God Matara ~ Hidden Star in All Seasons.
The intro for the extra boss theme is great but the rest of song not so much. Ending theme has nice spooky mysterious feel, Zun should do more tracks like that and stage 5 boss theme instead of combining TD beats with DDC guitar into some eclectic mess like stage 4 boss theme.

>>17470707
Can't wait for the eventual doujin where she rapes Marisa after winning and properly makes her a proper slave after dicking her many times.

>>17459368
Miles better than LoLK really

What Matara says when the last spellcard comes up?

>>17470876
I might know the Japanese for it but I can't reach that part. Screencap it?

>>17470876
If you're talking about the pop-up at the last spellcard, it's:
>The enemy stole your season options!
>Now, for the finale, fight against thy own sub-season!

I like how she doesnt even stands up as the final boss

>>17470902
>thy

>boring characters
>garbage Junko clone as boss AND extra boss
>has a shitty theme too

ZUN is a washed up hack.

>>17471038

>>17467308
>I am still waiting on a translation on Reimu's storyline. But it seems Aya being a Tengu meant Okina has an actual feud with her, due to some Gensokyo past.
I went and read the updated translations, and some more info come out.

So basically, in Gensokyo lore Okina is in reality, the god of prevention, The god that stops bad things happening. This translates to Okina being a security guard.

And the Tengu in Okina's eyes classify as evil spirits, and thus Okina fights them as her duty.

Note that Tengu was originally a type of Chinese evil spirit, but when the term get transferred to Japan it got changed. Tengu split into two distinct types, one that are otherwise good and decent but has to much pride, the other takes the position of Devils who tempt Buddhists into going astray and are fundamentally bad. These two interpretations are contradictory.

Assuming Okina considers Tengu as anti-Buddhism devils, it makes perfect sense that a Buddhist Security guard deity would fight them.

And in a way, is Okina wrong about the Gensokyo Tengu? Remember that the Tengu serves Oni. And Oni are traditionally the most evil forces of Japanese lore. It is very hard to say that Okina is wrong about Aya and her people.

>>17471514
Given how much I've fapped to Aya so far I can understand how tengu can lead people astray.

>>17471708
>Given how much I've fapped to Aya so far I can understand how tengu can lead people astray.
It is canon that these "evil Tengu" would take the form of beautiful women and seduce monks in order to make them to break their faith. So you are more right than you think.

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this...

When I tried starting the game at first, I got an error saying that I need a d3dx9_43.dll in order to play it. After resolving that, I got a 0xc000007b error and cannot start the game.

A little help here please?

>>17471752
You didn't resolve it. Take a bit of initiative and fucking google it, you clearly haven't even tried and just want to be spoonfed.

>>17471752
You obviously need that dll. There are dll sites that can give you pretty much any of those for free. It's a sign of an incomplete download.
Just google the dll name and then download it, and put it in your game folder.

>>17472163
I did get that dll, only to receive the 0x000007b error afterwards.

>>17472295
Sounds like you're fucked then, mate. You should probably re-download.
If the re-download still has the same problem, look for a different source.

>>17470448
Maybe I suppose

>>17468123
1. The Concealed Four Seasons
2. Deep-Mountain Encounter
3. Into Backdoor
4. Illusionary White Traveler
5. Crazy Backup Dancers
All of the songs are good, though.

>>17471038
>shitty theme
nah man it's the best final boss theme since emotional skyscraper

>>17464200
>every single character option and combination thereof must be equally as good

2hu is fucking dead