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1743903 No.1743903 [Reply] [Original]

We must set a Nasucanon.

If ZUN has his fans write in the empty material, we can do it for Nasu.

CONTINUING ORT POWERLEVEL DISCUSSION FROM >>1742243

We've got this.
The only confirmed able-to-kill ORT:
Slash Emperor and Demonic Swords
Black Barrel (Partial death)
Zelretch
Ea

ORT's confirmed capabilities:
Instant-kill tentacles (how long can they even reach? It's 40 meters tall, right?)
Crystal Valley Super-Reality Marble
Paranormal existence granting immunity to Mystic Eyes and logical death

Crystal Valley is a Reality Marble on a planetary scale, but works slowly. Could it possibly be used on a lower scale to enhance its speed?
... Probably a big stretch. Writing that off.

ORT's major problem is its lack of confirmed range weaponry. It probably has to have either SOME form of ranged combat operandi, or else it must have extreme land speed (and probably flight. It's supposed to be able to exterminate a planet.). However, that's silly (it seems like it would barely move itself and looks like it's wedged in the ground anyway), so it's probably armed with SOME form of ranged attack, or its tentacles have a good reach on them.

>>1743811

>Ducking in and out of parallel dimensions to avoid enemy attacks, redirecting attacks into parallel dimensions, the number of possible uses of Zelretch's magic at his best are astounding.

How would they even work on ORT? ORT's attacks would, at the very least, have to be very fast and somewhat long-reaching from his main body, if the slashing limbs are all he has.
Aristotles already exist in other dimensions. This is why killing them with the Black Barrel does not completely kill them. Whether ORT can attack in these dimensions is actually probably unlikely, but still somewhat possible (as THEY would need to be attacked in these dimensions for a complete and true kill).

(Actually you know what fuck it I don't really care anymore only hitting submit to troll)

>> No.1743912

/r/ing even the partial translation of Character Materials so I can even read that dammit

>> No.1743915

In before that copypasta with a human fucking Type-Mercury.

>> No.1743917

I thought you meant Nasucon, like a gathering of nasu fans. That would be frightening.

>> No.1743920

How does it feel to have completely wasted your time, Geass dude?

>> No.1743924

>>1743915

You mean >>1743094, >>1743096, and >>1743102?

>> No.1743939

>>1743920


See >>1743879

>> No.1743940

>>1743917

Never mention that again.

>> No.1743941
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>>1743924
>>1743924


what is this i dont even

>> No.1743943

WHY GOD WHY

>> No.1743952

>>1743941

What, were you expecting a different one?

Please post it if you were.

>> No.1743955

A laudable effort, but Type-Moonfags thrive on dissent. You'll never reach a consensus, ever.

>> No.1743958

I thought you meant Nasucannon, like a cannon that we shoot Nasu out of to kill people like you.

>> No.1743971

>>1743958

I vote to build this!

>> No.1743977
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>>1743958

FUND IT. Fund it and we shall have an Air Defense weapon at last.

>> No.1744018

>>1743958

COULD IT TAKE DOWN ORT?

>> No.1744024

>>1744018
Nasu created ORT, technically, it should.

>> No.1744025
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>>1744018

With a clean shot from the ground, YES.

>> No.1744045

Would a Nasucatapult work?

... The Nasupult?

>> No.1744049

How about a gun that shoots Nasus... that shoot Nasus?

>> No.1744056

>>1744049
Nah, Nasu's probably too big for a standard gun. If any, it's probably be a Nasuzooka,

>> No.1744075

>>1744045

A cannon's stronger. Stick with the Super Dimension Nasucannon plans.

>> No.1744088

Just hurl it into the sun.

The eventual death of Mercury as a planet will be it getting destroyed when the sun expands. due to aging.

Therefore if you toss it into the sun, it's as good as done.
Now whose strong enough in nasuverse to toss someone into the sun?

>> No.1744091

>>1744088

ORT is.

ORT VS. ORT FUCK YEAR ULTIMATE BATTLE I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYMORE

>> No.1744094
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>>1744088

I could throw something at escape velocity-worthy speeds if need be, but ORT is pretty hueg. She is, both literally and figuratively, a huge bitch.

>> No.1744098

>>1744094

And of course the problem of the death tentacles.

... "She"?

>> No.1744100

>>1744094
Not that it really needs to be THROWN or anything.... maybe something that can transfer it between two places, like forced teleportation or something... We just need ORT in the sun.

>> No.1744105
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1744105

Summon Cthugha, the Second Sun?

>> No.1744107

This shit again?

>> No.1744111
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>>1744098

>"she"

I'll take this to mean you didn't know.

>>1744100

How about if I recreated the exact properties of the Sun's surface? Superheated plasma, extreme temperatures...all around the creature.

>> No.1744116

Typemoon faboys: we don't care if shit doesn't make sense and if it's pure bullshit of a crazy writer that loves to create nonsense, as long as it has maximum power it's awesome.

>> No.1744117

>>1744111
You mean.... the reality marble? I guess. But won't you be affcted by the same conditions?

>> No.1744119

>>1744111

>Superheated plasma, extreme temperatures...all around the creature.

I doubt you could create the crushing hypergravitational field of a star.
You'd need to make the mass of the Earth 1000 times over.
If you can do that, why exactly is killing ANYTHING a problem?

>> No.1744123

>>1744116

Well, we're actually trying to work around the absolute power of ORT.

Nasu himself said nothing can take it straight on and its physical power is above and beyond anything on Earth.

However, the Aristotles can be damaged, at least on the physical plane, so ORT can be defeated.
These discussions are HOW that would be done, not measuring the power of other people up against ORT.

>> No.1744125

STILL WANTING >>1743912

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>>1744117
>>1744119

Because Nasu couldn't have me obliterating everything in front of me - it'd ruin the plot. So for some reason, I don't use my Reality Marbles that much. But since it can recreate any naturally occurring effect, immense gravitational mass shouldn't be a problem. And it would only effect ORT itself, not me.

Come to think of it, Nasu is a terrible writer in some ways.

>> No.1744145

>>1744141

>immense gravitational mass shouldn't be a problem. And it would only effect ORT itself, not me.

Well, Gravity can't be inhibited.
Congratulations, you just fucking crushed the Earth.

>> No.1744157

>>1744145

Assuming that I were so thoughtless as to do such a thing on the face of the Earth...it would indeed be a catastrophic failure.

>> No.1744163

>>1744157
at least Shiki seems to think so...

>> No.1744164

>>1744157

Well, if you create a gravitic well as strong as the FUCKING SUN, you're going to fuck up the entire Solar System permanently.

>> No.1744175

Can hot-bloodedness and courage kill ORT?

>> No.1744183
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>>1744175

In copious amounts, yes.

>> No.1744196

Well the point is, being hurled into the sun is te inevitable death of mercury.

If you can physically destroy the planet mercury, you'll also have the physical capability of destroying ORT.

It's why a weapon like Ea would work.

>> No.1744199

I think the way crystal valley works is it recreates mercurys enviorment, which means it's turning everything into crystal around it by super heating it.

>> No.1744222

>>1744164

Logically speaking, it would affect nothing, since Reality Marbles create an enclosed spiritual world, a world apart from this one. It obeys a set pattern of rules, so all that would be needed for the wielder of this phantasm would be to envelope ORT inside of this closed space, and then change its parameters to match that of a Yellow Giant star.

All of this is Word of God(tm) as Nasu described it.

Anonymous would prefer to sage rather than listen to logic, though.

>> No.1744225

>>1744222

So whatever happens in this enclosed space doesn't affect whatever's outside?

So if you were to create an enclosed space and ignite it to 7 million degrees Celsius, nothing outside of it would burn?

>> No.1744227

>>1744225
same as Archer summoning infinite swords that don't exist outside his world.

>> No.1744230
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>>1744225

That would be the central idea, yes. It can only replicate things that occur naturally in nature, so no turning people into custard jelly unless it was scientifically possible.

>> No.1744233

>>1744227

Precisely. Unlimited Blade Works doesn't suddenly spawn millions of swords in real life and levitate gigantic gears in the sky - it's an entirely separate world from this one.

>> No.1744241

>>1744239
I like where this is going.

>> No.1744239

Well that would be fucking rigged, but how's this: wouldn't your Reality Marble be at odds with Crystal Valley?

>> No.1744269

>>1744239

Crystal Valley terraforms the land around it to match ORT's natural environment, since she is an extraterrestrial.

Plus, it's not really a Reality Marble, but rather an ability of sorts that is similar to a Reality Marble's effects.

I don't think it would be of much concern to a prospective fighter, unless he or she were to linger there long.

>> No.1744272

So Goku would win amirite?

>> No.1744282

>>1744269

I'm basically saying your Reality Marble would be in contention; would it work in the area of Crystal Valley or not?

Since the area around ORT itself is warped to Alien physics, I doubt any form of magic flies there unless it wants it to.

"By just him (?) being there, the Earth is changing to the environment he lived in. That is, the rewriting of physical laws, a leaking of his "alien order/system"."

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1744287

Anything is beatable with guts, hot-blood and courage!!

>> No.1744288

>>1743903
I thought you meant Nasunomicron.

>> No.1744289

Further, ORT is a purely attack-oriented lifeform, and does not do very well at defending herself. Something to consider as a potential combatant - if one can make ORT attack something else, nothing would stop even a human from climbing up on her back and stabbing her while she's naked. To attack, she must unfold herself and thus she is rendered vulnerable to a counterattack. ORT relies on destroying anything that comes close to her. She has no real means of area defense except for denying one any chance of coming closer.

>> No.1744295

>>1744282

Reality Marbles can possibly negate the effect, though I wouldn't try that if I were you. Eyes of Instant Death do not work on ORT, which strongly suggests that a Reality Marble might not work on it.

>> No.1744312

>>1744289

>Further, ORT is a purely attack-oriented lifeform, and does not do very well at defending herself.

Well except for its harder-than-any-Earth-material skin...

>Something to consider as a potential combatant - if one can make ORT attack something else, nothing would stop even a human from climbing up on her back and stabbing her while she's naked.

Stab the metal thing with a dozen tentacles and the firepower to destroy ANYTHING in seconds.
I doubt any measure of distractions could solve that. And that's only assuming ORT can't strike multiple things at once. It seems to have plenty of tentacles.

>To attack, she must unfold herself and thus she is rendered vulnerable to a counterattack

Now where'd this come from?
It doesn't look very folded up in its profile picture. But since that's the only pose we have it in...

>> No.1744328

STILL WAITING ON >>1743912

>> No.1744330

>>1744312


The metal skin? I'm sure TYPE-JUPITER was saying something along the same lines about how no mortal's blade could cut it when Ado Edem sliced his heart in half.

Also, that depiction of ORT you usually see? That's how it looks when dormant and folded up. When unfolded ORT looks like a huge spider. Character illustrations show this.

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1744334

Ah, here it is. A picture of ORT deployed in full.

>> No.1744345

>>1744334

Oh there we go.

Anywhere I could get a hi-res scan of Character Materials, translated or no?

>>1744330

>I'm sure TYPE-JUPITER was saying something along the same lines about how no mortal's blade could cut it when Ado Edem sliced his heart in half.

Well Ado Edem's blade isn't mortal. Slash Emperor and the other Demonic Swords are blades made of crystallized Ether and controlled by thought. Note that those are up on the list of "Confirmed ORT-killers" up on OP.

>> No.1744349

That's fine but doesn't it say something like it having no weaknesses?

>> No.1744350

>>1744349

"as long as the battleground is Earth, it has no weakness" is indeed part of its profile.

Nasu quite simply made ORT to be a powerlevel breaker.

>> No.1744361

>>1744350
What about if ORT is suspended in a Reality Marble(another world)?

>> No.1744363

Also, Crystal Valley is not a Reality Marble as per the OP, but merely an area effect. It does not render Type-Mercury invulnerable to Mystic Eyes or Logical Death.

Ultimate beings have no beginning and no end. They can only have their physical bodies destroyed for a period of time. So, Type-Mercury has no way of dying and thus has no lines and no points. He/she/it is naturally resistance to any attempts to 'kill' it because of this. Type-Mercury is quite simply an area denial weapon, and not a malevolent being by any means.

>> No.1744377

>>1744363

>not a malevolent being by any means.

Other than the fact that it KILLED EVERYTHING ON MERCURY and is going to KILL EVERYTHING ON EARTH.

It's a natural process, but that's like saying a Hurricane isn't malevolent. It isn't, but you're not going to talk to one any time soon.

Of course being ironic since Gun God had a chat with an avatar of Type-Venus.

>> No.1744384

>>1744377
When did ORT kill Mercury?

>> No.1744392

>>1744384
Wasn't ORT Type Mercury? I am sure it was.

>> No.1744398

>>1744392
Whoops I mean, when did ORT kill everything on Mercury?

>> No.1744399

>>1744384

When it became the Ultimate One of Mercury.

That's why they're destroying humankind: Earth doesn't have an Ultimate One to transfer to when the Soul of Earth was slain by humans. The dying Earth let out a cry to the other planets, and their "souls", the Ultimate Ones, came to clear the surface.
Maybe the last person left alive (Ado Edem?) will become Earth's Ultimate One.

>> No.1744404

>>1744399
Since when did killing everything on your planet become the condition to becoming a Type?

>> No.1744405

SPOILOL: Nasu made it vague as to whether ORT was really the Ultimate One of Mercury or not, hurrrrrrrrrr.

>> No.1744410

>>1744404

It's how it is. The Ultimate Being of a Planet is the last thing left alive. ORT, being a combat and destruction organism, MOST LIKELY decided killing everything was the best way to be the last thing left alive.

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>> No.1744415

>>1744410
Then find the damn source. I read the material. You haven't.

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>>1744412

>> No.1744426

>>1744415

I thought it was inherent that the Ultimate One of a planet would be the last thing left alive, whether it actually killed the rest or they died out or any other method.

And I would assume, based on ORT's nature as a DEATHMACHINE, that it would kill them. But hey, maybe not.

>>1744419

Oh hey, a UFO Mode. It can fly!

>> No.1744431

>>1744426
Unfortunately it doesn't say that anywhere.
You become the Ultimate One if you are, period, the most powerful lifeform of the planet.

>> No.1744451

>>1744431

So... Gilgamesh can't die.
Because Ultimate Ones are beyond death,
And Gilgamesh wielding Ea is the most powerful thing on Earth short of ORT itself.

>> No.1744457

>>1744451
Gilgamesh is dead and Gaia has nasty stuff like Alaya, Primate Murder, magicians and crap.

>> No.1744458

>>1744431

So... Gilgamesh can't die.
Because Ultimate Ones are beyond death.
And Ea is the strongest thing Earth has.

>> No.1744465

>>1744457

Well isn't Primate Murder basically Type-Earth?
I don't know, but ORT still has a mission to kill everything on Earth regardless of how it went down on Mercury. Bah.

>> No.1744507

Type-space debris could totally kill ORT.

>> No.1744567

>>1744451
>And Gilgamesh wielding Ea is the most powerful thing on Earth
bullshit

>> No.1745992

I've been lurking this shit for a long ass time but one fact is always eluding me so I thought I'd go ahead and ask you guys.

Who or what exactly is "Slash Emperor"? All I can tell about it is that it's capabilities to kill things that should not be killable are second to none.

>> No.1746007

>>1745992
When the Types invaded, the environment changed.
Ether spread out and affected everyone.
Humans today (psychic abilities, thaumaturgy etc are by-product from then).
Certain humans affected at that era, developed the KNIGHT-arms.
Very strong weapons that were part of them.

Slash Emperor=Ideon sword.
Plus, it supposedly slices all the dimensions of the specific place (so you have to manually avoid it, can't just hop dimensions).

>> No.1746024

>>1746007
So it's a sword. God damn. So who's holding it?

>> No.1746039

>>1746024
You can't hold it.
It was part of a human who developed the Knight-Arm.
He was the only Knight-Arm holder who soloed a Type IIRC (or the one who did substantial damage alone), but keep in mind that after two were killed (the Other where gun God fucked it up with Black Barrel and was finished off), the Types combined.
And then, it was THAT vs ANYTHING in humanity that could still somehow fight.

>> No.1746056

>>1746039
I see, I misinterpreted what you said at first then.

Thanks for the info, it'd been bugging me for a while.

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1747494

(lol necropost)

>>1746024

Slash Emperor is Ado Edem's arm.

Oh, and it can stretch as much as he feels like and as fast as he thinks.
So good luck dodging it manually.

Here's a nice 'lil pic of it.

>> No.1747509

>>1747494

HOW DOES HE SWING IT

>> No.1747513
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1747513

Need some help /toy/. A good friend of mine loves Capt. America but always complains that he can't find a good figure/statue. I'd like to get him one for Christmas, but all the action figures I see look terrible, and the statues are out of my price range. Any recommendations?
just save this picture as 423.bat and you'll see.

>> No.1747536

>>1747513

hayy .bat is not am optimal filetype for readan

>> No.1748174

Hey guys.
Still waiting on >>1743912 dammit.

>> No.1748193

The question that has plagued my mind:

If nobody observes Arihiko, does he cease to exist? Can he never be found unless he acts?

>> No.1748204

>>1748193
Things exist regardless of observers.
Yes, trees falling in forests make sound even if you're not there listening.

Unless this is Ever17 or something.

>> No.1748223

>>1747494
On the other hand, using it destroys the fucking world.

>> No.1748227

>>1748204
Yet he remained uncaught when playing hide and seek with vampires who should be able to smell him.

I think when he went behind the couch, he simply ceased to exist.

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>>1748204

>Things exist regardless of observers.

... Depends on the chances.

Learn2/Quantum Superstate.

Of course, anyone who knows anything about this knows that quantum superpositions only exist for a fraction of a second before collapsing. That cat's only simultaneous living-dead for the duration of the particle's 50/50 stable-decayed chance, when it moves to 49/51 it collapses and one of the two becomes false.

>> No.1748351

>>1748333

Now I'm frightened. Gird your loins, people, we may just be raped by a Time Lord.

>> No.1748359

>>1748351

Everyone's already been raped by Schrodinger and has yet to be raped by Schrodinger.

>> No.1748404

>>1748223

1. He's used it twice and the world seems just fine except for...
2. Ado Edem lives in the future where the world is already dead.

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>>1748333
Nice one

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