/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>17408593
is that asairo?

What do you guys usually snack on and drink while reading, if anything?

>>17408645
Snacking while reading is pretty bad, will make you fat easily. No different to snacking while watching TV.

>>17408593
Is there any new information on Dies irae? I want to know about the release date.

>>17408718
Some time during the 13th century

>>17408645
I usually drink tea if it's cold out. Pretty comfy

I like how all the reviews for Ouchi ni kaeru are "This is a good nukige" and variations.
>このゲームを抜きゲーとしてみた感想です。
>ひとこと、エロい･･･だけ？
>トップクラスの萌え抜きゲー。

>>17408938

I dunno how much hcg per scene it has, but each heroine has 7 scenes, one even 8. So for what it's worth, it could be a nukige. That starts with some random philosophic quote to make you hard, or something.

Reina a cute

>>17408938
Deleted. I'll just fap to the HCGs some time.

>>17408408
Windows 10? Use virtual machine and run those shit on windows 7, otherwise, save often, don't skip unless it's necessary, and pray. If it's on RUGP 5.x something, the crash is still manageable. If older like RUGP 4.x like KimiNozo fandisc, tough luck, it'll crash after like 7 dialouges or so. I only get through because I really want to see Takayuki's voice in the fandisc and have to save after every 3 dialogues.

Now that went beyond stupid. Are they fucking serious?

>>17408593

>>17410550
What game?

>>17408174
Could you share?

>>17408214
Liar should continue the trend of experimental VNs, we really need this right now.

>>17408593
What game is this because that's so fucking true and yet all eroge writers can think of to praise the MC is to call him yasashii.

>>17410600
Apeiria

>>17408602
No

>>17408938
Again, this is always the case with Marmalade. They start as moege and turn into nukige into the heroine routes. In a good way as ero is indeed hot.

>>17408938
Looks like they got what they wanted from a Marmalade game. It's pretty much a dumb moege with very good production values.

>>17410550
Is that actually a laser dick or just a really, really unsubtle visual gag?

>>17410603
Making*Lovers' promo. It's only a minute or two long, basically a handful of cut up scenes for each heroine so you can get a first taste of them.

Can't wait until November.

>>17408938
The common route drags on way too fucking long though.
Even when I started skipping through it, it took for fucking ever.

>>17410656
It's a magic dick. The story suddenly went so fucking stupid that I'm on the verge of dropping it.

>>17410670
Same. Also skip is slow, at least on my PC; the previous games were fine but since they moved to 1080p the engine doesn't seem to handle it very well.

>>17410716
I had the feeling it would from the look of it.

Want to go into more detail? I always enjoy hearing about retarded plots.

August is pretty shit, so good thing,July was decent.

>>17408593

Sounds like someone's been a 'nice guy' a lot, huh?

>>17408593
What do you use to stitch images like these?
Do you do it manually?

>>17410755
I couldn't even use the Control Key skip as it would bug out, and had to just hold down enter.

>>17410755

Is it even the same engine? I don't remember too well, but.. yeah.
Alone how it (for me) takes forever to get to the title-screen is weird. Something seems off with it.

Anyone tried the new Shin Koihime yet?

How's the new combat system?

how hard of a read is Newton? I can read most moege fine but not anything more challenging. Will it be too hard for me?

>>17411623
It's not hard but you might fall asleep.

Why did they end the series without a Renge scene? What a disappointment.

>>17411971
Probably because Kazane's lewd loli voice is shit.
And I say that with her as my favorite eroge VA..

>>17408593
I know this isn't a graphic novel, but could somebody please help me translate whats on the front and back of this shirt? i haven't been able to find the shirt or brand online anywhere to translate it.

>>17411623
I recommend something with furigana.
You could try Liar soft's fairytale games

>>17412176
It says "the pleasure of being cummed inside"

>>17412176
This is the back

>>17412176
>>17412182
>>>/int/77838167

>>17411971
is it really over without us getting an indepth scene exploring Renge's tight premature cunny?

>tfw w-star releases a new renge side game

>>17411971
what the hell

>>17408593
I can't run making*lovers trail, any ideas?

Any lesser known lolige you gents have enjoyed? Just wondering since I think I've gathered most of the well known ones. As an example of one I don't see being brought up much, Otomari Koibito Lolita is quite nice.

>>17412248
Yes. http://omega-star.jp/biman4html/index.html

>>17412403
Am I missing something because I see it being called the "fourth chapter" not the final chapter?

>>17412421
大詰め

>>17412486
Halfway sure that's just metaphorical language. I'm looking for any sort of "this series is over" announcement from them but I'm not finding anything. I doubt they'd end such a hugely successful series with just a single word in the description of an image, without mentioning it anywhere else.

>>17408593
>not blood related
Nope, not gonna do it.

There is something about her that seems malicious but her character appears to have none

Any recommendations for a story-driven or drama-driven VN that I either wouldn't ruin as much with my shitty Japanese or wouldn't feel as bad for ruining because it's not some amazing kamige?

I'm kind of sick of reading moege and want something that's more consistently interesting storywise and doesn't have as much porn shoved into it.

>>17412797
Satsukoi

>>17412794
Shino does the whole Yamato Nadeshiko so well, with a side helping of Nee-san

>>17412797
Did you try Root Double? It's available in English too.

>>17412797
Go read some good otome.

>>17412797
https://vndb.org/v3900

>>17412381
Did you see this post? >>17283694
If you've already heard of all of these lolige there's probably nothing I can recommend you.

>>17408938
Not surprising. At the end of the trial, they straight up say that porn is what people expect out of Marmalade's games.

Takes a whole lot of time until you actually see an H scene though.

>>17411940

If you fall asleep in Newton, you should stop playing VN. What that game does in its ~1mb most other writers would easily pad out to 2.5. Plus, the game even has better comedy than most VN out there as well. It's just not a moege, although I'm pretty sure a lot expected it to be one.

>>17413070
I think just not playing mediocre games like it is also an option.

How do you get 4chan x to not remove deleted posts?
I can click on it and have it take me to warasou, but it doesn't appear normally, until you quoted it.

>>17413226
meant to quote>>17412989

>>17413229
Please lurk for another year before posting

>>17413209

Have fun playing your 5 VNs then.

In all honesty, Newton isn't perfect. But it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. For example people complain about the lack of moege esque elements. But I think that's fine. Not all games need hours of needless dates and flirting. The side-routes aren't that great if you look for romance, but they can be fun little what-if stories. They are better than what you find in Leyline and it's not like people downvoted that one so heavily because the side-routes weren't that hot.
They do make the main-romance feel more shallow though, as the game just isn't long and doesn't really look too much into how/why the characters start liking each other. This would be less of an issue if the side-routes wouldn't exist as Alice DOES change over the course of the game in preparation for her route, it's just easy to forget. It really feels weird. However, seeing how this is even a thing in many romance focused moege (no sign for attraction in common from protag, enter route -> damn I LOVE HER), it's hard for me to be too mad about it in a game that's not focused on that stuff at all. It's a negative point, but not a deal-breaker.

Then there's the science part. Some complaints are somewhat valid (i.e. the protag), but I feel like the people have a rather weird concept of what sci-fi is. It's fiction. As long as something abides to its own rules, it's valid. And I thought a bit about some of its established stuff and it seems to be mostly alright. It gives the typical question of "what was first, the egg or the chicken", but that's a typical issue with time-travel. They are pretty much all somewhat flawed by design as time-travel itself makes not much sense.
The concept that we have about it is "needs a ton of energy". The author solves this with an impossible material to theoretically infinitely boost an energy-source with light reflection. It doesn't exist, duh. It makes no sense, duh. But it does its job. And, we always have to keep in mind: The very fact our universe exists makes no sense (to us). We have energy. There had to be a time without any energy before. So energy was created from nothing in some way.
There are a bunch of convenient things going on, but there should not be any BIG blunders, unless I missed something. One guy at EGS was raging quite a bit, but most of what he wrote there was nonsense. It felt like serious nitpicking. For example a heroine doing a part-time job to save for going back to Japan and whatnot, but he forgot that she worked WAY before the story started (potentially years given her age..) and she was only looking for a new job, as her old one ended. Stuff like that.


I dunno. The game wasn't what people expected. But that doesn't make it bad. And even if there are some issues with the time-travel, has that stopped Steins;Gate? Nah. This game may not be for everyone, but I'm not really seeing this as a mediocre game. Although I admit, I'm generally not that mainstream with my taste. That said, Newton isn't simply a meh game, it's a polarizing game.

>>17411064
Same. What I did is set Skip mode to All and hit F8 to turn skip on/off.

>>17413318
I'm a fan of Laplacian but I can't imagine myself defending Newton this hard.

>>17412989
Thanks, that's a good list and there's indeed some stuff here I dunno about.

Anyone a good chunk into or finishing Apeiria? Reception on EGS is pretty nice.

On another note I wish there was a way to test hear music/BGMs like you can view CGs or voice samples on the company sites.

Anyone playing Biman4? I started for the fap, but got hit with the feels and depressing story. Getting pretty dark after the reverse rape scene which I should have expected seeing as it is a trap game and it really feels bad with the MC becoming traumatized and contemplating to end it. The oneechan is amazing though, the animated kissing scene was pretty hot. Tempted to ctrl through just for her, but the story has been fairly interesting so far.

>>17413512
>On another note I wish there was a way to test hear music/BGMs like you can view CGs or voice samples on the company sites.
Sometimes there's BGM sample clips as videos or downloadable on official websites. Dei Gratia or the never to be released Shoujobyou come to mind, though it seems the latter's site just returns an error now.

>>17413331
>defending

I just feel a lot look at EGS and are like "yep, sucks", and that's unfortunate. There aren't a lot of works like it out there and I'd definitely like more. Though I know that especially in Japan it's not that favored what the game does. Its very high pacing is definitely very weird in the medium as well.

Also what would you defend if not what you like? I'm fairly open minded, but seeing how a lot of the negative points people have are either wrong, because the person overlooked stuff, or just "this isn't a moege", I'm simply not agreeing with that. But I'll keep it at this. I think I wrote enough about where I stand in regards to the game. And I'll also say this: I too expected something totally different from a game with cute art, time-travel and a freakin' gender-bent Newton. So I'm not saying, that the score is entirely undeserved, as the game is a bit misleading. But in part that is the fault of "eroge-expectations".

>>17413682
Same, biman stories are interesting and it's hard to just skip to the sex.
I think most people here finished it or are just doing it in breaks

Trying to run 新妻こよみ. Japanese locale, used the siglus program, but nothing happens when the shortcut is clicked, even as administrator.

What do?

>>17414339
Gotta drag and drop the exe onto alpharomdie

>>17414339
I didn't have to use siglus program to run it. Just the standard settings and clicking cancel twice

>>17413923
True, gotta take a break after each scene. So far they've been spaced out. I've noticed the overall quality is pretty good with quite a few varied background shots. The choice of using classical music and similar variations fits in with the atmosphere of the school and helps set the tone for the story.

>>17414356

Thanks a bunch.

Late to the party, but finished 鬼哭街 -涙尽鈴音響-. Should play shorter titles more often. I had already forgotten to appreciate games that don't ship along with ages of padding. The chase scene in the middle parts was top tier action.

Amazing how much hard stuff they were able to cram into an "all-ages" remake.

>>17414664
My favorite non-action part is Tamura Yukari having sex with herself

>>17414678
Yeah, she's easily become one of my favorite VAs by now.

Her being in Himawari and Island as well actually reminded me about (Himawari spoilers) Aqua After being strangely absent from the main game's all-ages remake despite it being a vital part of the main story, and I remember discussing with people here that it's probably because it couldn't be included in an all-ages remake due to its content even if it's technically non-sexual, but if something as hard as Kikokugai with actual obscene content that's integral to main plot gets a pass into all-ages there's no reason it couldn't have either. Aqua After was still fantastic but I would've preferred to experience it with voice acting and new art like the main game.

Any recommendations of road movie like eroge?

>>17415157
キラキラ

>>17412524
2D girls will never be blood related to you even if they're blood related to the MC

>>17415230

Because they have no blood?

>>17412794
>>17412907
>Yamato Nadeshiko
>onee-sama
>calls you Otouto-kun

MAX COMFY

>>17412403
>>17412421
>>17412486
>>17412499

I feel like with the wording, it could be interpreted as this being the penultimate game of the series.

Where do people go to get their JP vns? I'm not yet confident enough to become a buyfag.

I finished up the trial of Tokyo Necro a while ago (awesome) and so I figure I might try Anaxael next, but I can't quite...find it.

>>17415715
Pirating

>>17415230
But I don't need them to be related to me. I need them to be related to MC

>>17415715
DMM for digital, Amazon.jp for physical. Use a forwarding service.

>>17415715
>I'm not yet confident enough to become a buyfag.
What's there to be confident about? Buyfagging is super easy, only expensive. Read buyfag.moe for way too many details.

>>17415754
Specific.
>>17415772
>>17415787
Thanks! I tend to agonize over purchasing...anything, for fun, but these will help a lot, since I do plan on buying some.

>>17415805
Start by buying Swan Song, it's 50% off right now for only 1500 Yen!

>>17415765
What does that change

>>17415765
What difference does it even make to the writing
Siblings still act like siblings
Blood relation adds an extra "whoops moral complications" arc which has been done to death anyway

>>17416079
Some people get off specifically to the taboo.

>>17416079
>Blood relation adds an extra "whoops moral complications" arc which has been done to death anyway
Is there blood-related incest where the sibling actually have parents and they don't go "lol of course we approve your relationship, we want you to be happy hehehe"?

>>17416345
https://vndb.org/v5299

>>17416351
>12+
>15+
Incest is all about the fucking.

>>17412524
family isn't just by blood.

>>17416357
It's by sperm actually.

>>17416345
https://vndb.org/v11569

In the last thread I said I finished all the routes in the new Zettai Junshu game. Looking for a screenshot I realized I haven't even started the white haired girl's route yet.

I completely forgot her existence. How embarrassing!

>>17416393
Half blood siblings?

>>17408256

>>17416345
Causes their parents divorce (among other things).
https://vndb.org/v750

>>17415805
Chinese and russian trackers/dlsites. You learned Japanese, can't be hard learning one-more two extra languages.

>>17416987
not the same anon, which are some dlsites? Is there any like the old nyaa?
I want to download sakura no uta again but I can`t find it on english sites

Not him I only know japanese and English, I use these.
The chinese can be translated with Googletranslate.
I feel like most of the anons here know of some secret other sites, but won't share.

http://craneanime.com/
.http://bbs.mikocon.com/forum-56-1.html
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/
http://girlcelly.blog.fc2.com/

>>16840865
How do I reverse quote like that?

>>17417046
There is also LAH if you want loli

What's the last thing you read that really stuck out as enjoyable to you?

I'm digging through the ol' backlog looking for something new but nothing's really jumping out at me.

>>17417369
Quite a few things really.

>>17417378
Can you give me some names or do I need to say "pretty please"?

>>17417369

There was something. But it's not gonna help you, as you've seen it posted enough recently.

That said, if you want recommendations, you should generally give an idea of what you like.

>>17417391
I'm a simple guy I liked quite a few stuff that came out this year.
I guess Biman, 9-9, Tantei7. Hatsukoi*Syndrome, Suisou, Newton at the top of my head.

>>17417369
Hello Lady

>>17417398
Usually I'm in the mood for something but right now I have no idea what I want, searching by my usual go-to tags gives me nothing that stands out. I'm hoping I'll just see a title and then it'll hit me.

>>17417399
Thanks, that helps.

>>17417398
I really need to play games by Studio Ryokucha
I've been thinking of trying koiiro for the longest time.
Maybe even Renka too, it looks funny and cute

>>17417449
plus I love floating boxes

>>17417449
Koiiro is fun and funny, drags a bit with a colossal common route and some dumb dorama but has some great friend group dynamics to make up for it.

If there's one weirdly specific thing ryokucha is good at it's sprite wizardry, it's a small thing but it really improves the comedy a ton.

I like these.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpf1rr4j7lM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5uZZimx6PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVNKSsgIg7k

>>17417470
It's got a decent score of 79 of EGS too, but most of the complaints are it's too long, which is kinda a turn off as I really don't like long VNs. Still most of the other things make me like it.

>>17416974
Anyone have a working download of that game? All torrents seem to be dead.

>>17417478
Also I'm pretty sure their in-house writer was molested by his grandfather or something because damn near everything he's written has an evil granddad or a meddling one or one who causes all the shit at the start of the plot.

but yes it's fun but long, I never finished it myself either but I had a lot of fun on the way there. Just drags a bit when it tries to be serious.

(」・ω・)」うー！(／・ω・)／にゃー！

>>17417504

May I introduce a psychiatrist?

>>17417490

Must've died by now, as in Natsukoi the grandfather is dead already at the beginning. (still started a good amount of the whole shit though)

What do you think about the concept of zenaku sousatsu from Fullmetal Daemon Muramasa?

>>17417589
I thought it was only really used well at the end of the true route.

>>17417644
Yeah, Zenaku Sousatsu was created to show us that scene in the end of Hikaru route, i think.
What do you think about Zenaku Sousatsu as moral code?
Is it some sort of "absolute" moral relativism? or strong belied that killing should never be regarded as justice?

>>17417670
Fuck off moogly.

I just heard that harumade kururu, has evolutionary biology and particle physics.
Is this true?
I thought it was a moege.

>>17417998
are you just new as fuck or what?

>>17418007
I'm still new to the scene.

I want to play something with magical girls. Transformation sequences, cute fluffy outfits, a magical stick, fighting for justice or just dancing on stage, magical girls.

I don't want to pick something at random from VNDB, too much rape

>>17418048
majokoi

did you want lolis instead?

>>17418053
lolis are good.

>>17418048
nanatsuiro drops is the only real mahou shojo mono in the VN medium that isn't a nukige pretty much

>>17418074
>>17418074
Can't really help you there, I don't really play much if any lolige that doesn't have rape and dirty sex.

>>17418077
That's a shame. I already watched the anime eons ago, don't know that I'm up for it. Thanks for the response.

https://twitter.com/hiqosoft/status/892725523935145985

get ready lads, it finally is time

>>17418048
Princess Witches and/or Twinkle Crusaders.

>>17418100
Holy fuck, finally. And they seem to have a trial up now.

>>17418048

The new Alice-Soft game has transformation and cheesy good vs bad. And lot's of sex. Including rape on defeat and whatnot, that you can however avoid by being good.


But honestly, if you want actual genuine magical girl, watch anime or read manga. VNs are terrible with it. All-ages could work, but I don't think there's much outside of maybe some obscure doujin game like... Mahou Shoujo... heh. Not like that's a super nice game, but at least it should be fairly genuine Mahou Shoujo without cramming in some weird male MC for the self-insert penis. (or alternatively monster rape)

>>17418048
Also curious

Is Noraneko Heart as fun as it seems?

>>17418141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB-eroL_Gfw

see for yourself

>>17418141

No.

Well Yumekoi is magical girls, transformation sequences and everything, no saving the world though. They sort of help kids lost in the park type stuff.

https://twitter.com/PCGameDL/status/892934306577784833
Torrent when?

>>17418168

Not even that. It's a typical example of the girls looking like magical girls and whatnot, but the story being everything but that. It's a typical moege with a high amount of ero.
I mean if you just want girls that are "magical girls", then it'll do. But if you want something from the magical girl genre, it's not in it. At all.

Is there anything I should know before playing Grisaia?
It is the first time that I'm playing VN in Japanese

>>17409163
Running fine on w7 virtal machine, awesome.
Now I have got some delay between voice and lip sync, still better than endles crashing I guess.

>>17418311
It might be a bit hard, it uses military jargon. If you know japanese already disregard this post.

>>17418026
Check tags on EGS (or VNDB) to see what a game has.

>>17418311
Learning more Japanese will always help.

>>17418048
Like the other anon mentioned Pricchi and Kurukuru are both fantastic. Pick former if you want actual good plot to go with your magical girls (though there's also rather big load of random harem ero at the beginning as well), latter if you're looking for something more lightweight plot wise and more regular heroine routes without harem stuff.

What do you think of Fairytale Requiem?
>inb4 i don't like the art style and coloring

>>17418493
It hurts my eyes to look at and I'm not joking

>>17418493
It's like drugs got injected through the picture. Beautiful.

>>17418493
I had to put it on hold due to reasons and never quite got back to it but the swan lake twins route I did finish was lovely. Real interesting meta-storytelling where you wonder how much it's going to be exactly like said fairy tales and somehow still ends up being a surprise even though you ostensibly already "know" how it's going to end.

Also it's fucking gorgeous to look at. To me at least, I can see people disliking it even if I don't agree with them.

Liking the new Tanuki game so far pretty much. Their last two games were rather meh but this feels like they got it back.

How is the lack of cracks treating you guys

>>17419188
Pretty good since there isn't anything relevant uncracked.

>>17419188
Still hasn't affected a single game I want to read.

>>17419188
Waiting for 俺嫁 since its release over a month ago. Maybe a case of never ever.

>>17418236
That is true sadly.

http://clockup.net/yourou/

>>17419319
>Kurashiki Tatsuya
Well this basically guarantees light's game will be shit. Writer who is already not very good divided his attention across two games in a single year.

>>17417369
ChronoBox was the last thing I recently enjoyed. But you may be one of these H-scenes hater so I'll give another niche title : Iwaihime
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ6dkmwJweU
I can't say it's a masterpiece, but it's one game that stuck on my head since I played it last year

>>17419607
>r07
no

>>17418493
If you like Liar-soft VNs, you will like it.
If you hate Liar-soft VNs, you will hate it.

I'm in the latter group. I want a book with more substance than style. I don't fault the people who do like it, I just got bored reading it. Too much focus on the setting and not enough focus on the characters.
When I read a VN I want to feel like I'm the lead actor of a stage play, not the customer of a tour guide.

>>17419630
>When I read a VN I want to feel like I'm the lead actor of a stage play, not the customer of a tour guide.
That's a funny way of saying "I'm a dumb moebuta who only likes badly written games with self inserts"

>>17419607
Can we really say that Iwaihime is niche?

>>17419144
I feel the opposite, it's a step down from Shoujo Ramune in my opinion. That was enjoyable as a nukige with some exciting and original H-scenes, while this just feels like a pure romance moege with an abnormally high density of vanilla sex.

>>17419607
I loved both of those games. Do you have anything else you would recommend? We seem to be on the same wavelength.

>>17419709

It has 90 votes on EGS. That's pretty low. Probably in part because all-ages, but Island has way more votes and I'd say the authors should be similarly known?.

>>17418493
I just started it I love the music and art.
It's so surreal.
I love the music so much because it doesn't sound like typical Japanese media but more international.

>>17419754
If you don't mind H-scenes then I really recommend Kamisama no game.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7cytCzFw4dM

Also I somehow remembered one of the first eroge I played and loved but didn't see it a lot here,
Gleam Garden no Shoujo.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XyTp1Iifb0A

Are you guys mostly into the story-based VNs or the harem VNs?

>>17420064
Yes.

>>17420064
Most people here like the former, true patricians prefer both.

>>17420064

That's a weird question. There are plot based VNs with harem and tons of not plot based VNs without harem.

>>17419188
Only play games with nameable protags so I'm fine so far.

>>17418493
I love it, and I love the art style and coloring.

>>17418539
Funny because they're actually on drugs.

>>17420064
Both, depends if I'm horny or not.

>>17412381
>>17418081
I love this series, it's my favorite for lolige after Himawari (if that counts). Anyone know if there's any other lolige with a similar feel (writing and/or atmosphere)? I heard of Futari Gurashi.
Actually even non-lolige would be fine.

>>17418493
I like the art and fancy designs, but I stopped after reading the snow princess route. She was good, but somehow the plot didn't feel satisfying.

>>17419980
>Also I somehow remembered one of the first eroge I played and loved but didn't see it a lot here,
Gleam Garden no Shoujo.
People talked about it when it's out, and generally liked, except the art.

>>17411623
>>17413070
Newton is fucking amazing. I'm not the guy who posted an essay about the game, but it's very fun.
It's actually concise, you'll reach emotional peaks before you get bored. Unlike most "good vns" it has a wide array of emotions instead of one off "jokes" and a generally boring sobby tone.

Newton is EASILY. And I mean EASILY, one of the best VNs in the past 5 years.

What do you think about チャラ崩壊?

Do you hate it?
I've seen people put チャラ崩壊注意 for blogs and art. Some people really get bothered.

>>17420877
Not him but I'm glad people like this game. I was hyped before it came out but there was little discussion or interest now people really like it and defend it.

>>17420627
I'm never reading a spoiler here again

>>17420877
>Unlike most "good vns" it has a wide array of emotions instead of one off "jokes" and a generally boring sobby tone.

>>17421275
I legit can't tell if these people are being serious anymore. The idea that most "good VNs'" thrive off of jokes is laughable in itself.

>>17421059
They are in a psychiatric ward with a heavy percpetion-altering psychological syndrome mate, that's the least you should expect.

>>17412794
>>17415364
Jesus, this game doesn't pull any punches... you have to both switch your system language to Japanese and set your timezone to UTC+9, plus keep disk 2 loaded or it won't even launch.

It looks good though, I guess.

>>17421376
>>17414356

>>17421323

Well, just read again what he wrote and you'll realize that "thrive off jokes" has nowhere been mentioned until you wrote it yourself.
Though of course his post is kinda baiting those responses I guess?

>>17415715
Axanael is on nyaa, you might have to look for it in the fap part of the website.

Is anything known about the VN ディエス・イレ? In particular the release date.

>>17422090
Yes. 1996-02-15

>>17422095
So it has already been released?

>>17422090
Maybe.

>>17422090
No.

>>17422098
Might, might not.

Just checked new shin koihime cg, did they have the same ending like the original shin koihime?　
is there only one ending in this new koihime?

>>17422035
His post directly implies that most good VNs have a bunch of one off jokes. This implies that jokes are a nontrivial component of a good VN, which simply is not true.

>>17422160
The ending was good so its okay to keep it. Haremfags need not apply.

>>17422211

It does not imply this. I don't know where you see that.

Regardless of what he wrote being right or wrong, his complaint was that most good VNs are monotone "sobby" in terms of atmosphere and offer a few jokes here and there to brighten things up a bit. He did never say that this ACTUALLY makes them good. In fact his whole point was, that those "good VNs" with those components aren't even that good.


I honestly haven't read much of the very highly acclaimed stuff like White Album 2 or whatever, so I can't talk too much about the absolute "top", but those kind of works do very much exist. A lot. And I don't personally mind. I'm a massive Inganock fan for example, and that easily falls into this pattern. A solemn world, steampunk, kids with diseases eating at their body that's half metal already, plenty of insane people around... the brightest moments are still just a minor thing to show that there's still warmth even in that kind of world. And a joke or two is certainly in there as well... I doubt there's a single VN that's able to not have a single funny moment of sorts. In this game Kia is the biggest factor that can lead to that. Mostly how she sometimes handles Gii and Ati. Something like White Album 2 (relationship drama) still has a much different "sobby" atmosphere as well. But they are plenty around. Not for everyone around, but I see no problem with that statement. But I guess he simply likes things more colorful with more different kinds of scenes and emotions.

>>17422371
I don't see the point. A moebuta crying that more things aren't happy go lucky moege, when that's the majority of games already?

>>17420064
I'm a horny pig who mostly reads nukige

>>17422381

Newton is not a moege. How did you get to "moebuta" now?

>>17422762
oink oink oink

>>17422883

So you don't understand yourself anymore. Alright.

>>17422919
We ignore this guy for a reason.

>>17422160
The entire game & flow is the same as the original shin koihime. Think this one as extended version with new art, ost, characters etc, they just added new characters and some new events but the main flow is the same thing.

>>17423638
BaseSon games seem like the exact opposite of what I want in eroge. Quantity over quality. ,huge casts, endlessly long stories, multiple random scenario writers...

>>17423851
(Most) Baseson games are the exception to the rule for me

>>17423851
Well everyone has their own tastes, personally I'm a huge fan of them and spent something like $700-800 for their products, probably will continue to do it as well.

What I like from them is, the relationship between characters and MC is not something like 1:1, they are pretty much a huge family with MC being at the middle of it. Those characters have their own relationships between them, after playing their games to the some point you are realizing that how those characters ,who were stranger to the each other at the start of the game, have slowly become to something like family while you're playing the game. Baseson is doing such a great job at this, there isn't a big event which makes everyone suddenly friends and gain absolute trust from each other, they're building this up slowly while you are playing the game.

I'm not sure if I could explain this correctly since its kinda hard to put into words, but in short just as >>17423930 said baseson games are exception for me as well.

>>17424009
>baseson games are exception for me as well.
Except for Appare?

>>17424026
Yeah, definitely so. Hell actually I was expecting them to go bankrupt from that series, but somehow they got pulled themselves together with sengoku koihime.

Speaking of sengoku koihime, its main writer K. Baggio has said that they will announce a new game at 2018. He didnt say anything about the game so we dont know if its another huge cast koihime series or some other type thing, but since he is not working on Kakumei anyway I'm expecting another huge-cast game from him.

>one scenario writer from a game I loved
>one scenario writer from a game I hated
>working on the same game
Taking a fuckin' gamble here, place yer bets. Will I get great ideas plagued by poor execution and stilted, boring dialogue? Or a stupid plot salvaged by great chemistry and banter? Maybe even the worst of both worlds!

seriously though i know from an industry standpoint multiple writers is cheap and fast but nothing shrivels up my hype-penis faster than finding out something's been written by a fucking baseball team's worth of people

>>17426525
That's basically every single game though.

>>17426525
Same I like Nijima and even Inugami Kira's art albeit some of the H but don't really like Scaji that much. Don't know why people love him.

I didn't know biman refferenced this guy.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/猟奇歌
よく切れる剃刀を見て
鏡をみて
狂人のごとほゝゑみてみる
I thought they were writing their own stuff.

>>17426932
You would if you actually knew Japanese.
>>17181561

>>17427104
Do you really think everybody that doesn't worship Scaji like me, don't know Japanese?
I bet you hate moege and harems too.

>>17427104
Why do Scajifags only resort to ad hominems instead of presenting an actual argument? Every single time. Prose isn't anything there is to a writer, you know.

>>17427104
Why do Scajifags only resort to ad hominems instead of presenting an actual argument? Prose isn't everything there is to a writer, you know.

Where can I find the so-called "hook codes" for the game KKK?

>>17427759
at a klan rally

Dies irae
Muramasa
now kkk
I wonder what other games falseflaggers will turn into memes and ruin next?

>>17427851
It's literally one guy. He's also the one that constantly posts about and in DJT.

SkyFish's OP editing is so bad, I don't know how people still buy their games. Watching their OPs turns me off forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw0LBQoPwW0

>>17427839
>>17427851
>>17427861
It's a genuine question, sorry if it came off as something else.

Some new eroge trailers

西暦2236年 -Universal Edition- OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5lME896YUI

Final Flowers game OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36lAVsXO7XQ

Doujin take on a Saekano VN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuzG4-JstCo

>>17427878
Lmao, this is terrible. Reminds me of this crap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMPED3sm6z8

>>17427759
Anyone?

So I bought a physical copy of KimiNago because it's one of my favourite VNs and it came with this cool Windowsボイス集付きお言葉CD, so you can replace all the default Windows sound effects with Mayuri voice lines.
https://my.mixtape.moe/ardkkx.wav
https://my.mixtape.moe/tlkxwb.wav

Anyone interested?

>>17427909
That flowers op was the girliest thing ever.

>>17427945
I recommend you get good at not knowing Japanese by using ITHVNR that can hook it without a code.

>>17428111
That is what I'm using, but I had no luck with two different versions of the game.

I have trouble taking this seriously. Why did they name this guy Maruyama of all things? I mean, yeah it fits. It FITS. But come one.

>>17428474
Oh cool someone playing this. Have fun with the locked baba routes!

>>17428478

The payoff will be the best thing ever!

But for now I'm just playing it a bit to see if I can not bad end. Keep my butt virginity. Stay just a young and innocent boy studying folklore. It'll be hard. The women seem to think of the protag as a boytoy of sorts already, or so I feel at least.

what do you guys thin of imouto routes?

>>17428787
>panties
Spoiler that lewd shit.

Also, they are superior.

>>17428787
they are wonderful and I'm always looking for more good ones

>>17428787
I really need to play akaneiro

>>17428787
Crap, most of the time.

>>17428787
Neesans>Imoushits.

SNuff FLag - あるいは睡蓮へ光が射すように - torrent when?

レイジングループ torrent when?

>>17428787

>>17429348
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ171393.html
>>17429354
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kemco.raginglooppremium&hl=ja

Has anyone played the new Alicesoft game yet? How is it?

>>17429930
porn was hot, gameplay was not very good. as expected

>>17429944

Did you play it? The gameplay is actually pretty fun. I'd argue the porn has more issues. The story has the most though.

>>17429993
What issues did you have with the porn? I don't remember the last time I've fapped to a single game this much.

I found the game play all right and not too engaging.

Agreed with the story. It's just straight up not very interesting.

>>17427302
I haven't even read any of the dude's shit but I'm not sure if any arguments are needed when he's written some of the most critically acclaimed VNs of the last decade.

>>17430329
Arguments are needed when all you can post is a standard fallacy.
The guy isn't bad, but he loves masturbating all over his work in long tirades.

>>17430222

The voices could be better (not like they are bad, but still) and the distribution of scenes is a bit weird and it tries a bit too much "a little bit for everyone". In the Alice Soft thread there's also someone complaining about the rape on defeat scenes not being the best and always stopping when things get good. It's essentially the result of them not really focusing on anything.
So essentially you have not enough variety on "nice" ero training (at least for quite a while), while the not so nice rape parts seem to not necessarily be satisfying for those who like that stuff, as the whole thing still has to co-exist with the nicer parts.


It's not terrible or anything, but while the gameplay is simple but works, the porn could definitely see some work. Btw., I'm playing the game with "no defeats", which is obviously a large part of why it's nice in the first place. Getting raped is easy mode. That's obviously not particularly engaging. I'd generally recommend to get the rape stuff in the second or later play-through, if one is interested in the gameplay. That said, everyone CAN beat the game, as long as you are willing to let the girls get raped (or you like that anyway).

>>17430365
I've been playing it with no defeats as well. I got a save file for the ero viewing. My problem with the game is that you don't really know what you need to prepare for until you've gotten to the boss already, which

>>17430365
I've been playing it with no defeats as well. I got a save file for the ero viewing. My problem with the game is that you don't really know what you need to prepare for until you've gotten to the boss already, which
makes it so that you can either scrape by the boss battle or you have to save scum so you can counter the boss's moves properly. To me, this gets tedious.

>>17428787
Love them

>>17430715
The game tells you all of the enemies moves just use the 千眼の魔.

Anyone read this one? Thoughts on it? Any similar vns? https://vndb.org/v1814

Finished Re;Lord chapter 3. I definitely liked it more than the other 2 chapters, it had the same fun game play and a more impactful story, but at the same time I'm not super satisfied with the ending.
The game play builds off the other two, adding in a couple new mechanics which are nice, just attack with the various follower bonuses is cool. In general it's a sequel to the game play of the previous ones, taking most of the features and adding on some new ones. I always enjoyed the strip battles and the quick feel to the game play.
The biggest change is definitely the story though, it really comes to a head and the final chapter is pretty damn exciting, but I feel like the characters and their interactions weren't quite as strong. What happened to Iris was pretty rough, but at the same time her almost edgy, for lack of a better word, personality was really grating. Likewise I felt the prince as an antagonist was lacking, not really having much agency in the story until the final chapter where it picks up. Whereas the first two games felt more character driven, this one is a lot more story and plot focused.
The ending definitely leaves me with mixed feelings. I like the whole concept around predetermination and the effect of the witches on the story, but at the same time I really wish it had been wrapped up better and didn't lead into a sequel. I didn't hate the ending, I just can't shake the feeling of a sequel-baiting ending. In no way am I rejecting or angry about the way everything transpired, but at the same time it's just a little off putting.
Overall I'm looking forward to what's next in the series, I especially like Ria's developments. Plus there aren't nearly enough stripping based games.

As an aside, listening to the cast comments while writing this makes me wish more companies did these extra parts.

>>17428787
Some are good, some are bad but they're less boring than the older ones most of the time.

I also wonder why EOP anefags never use the natural counterpart of 妹: 姉

Dear god that description
https://vndb.org/v21282

>>17431360
Just when you think you've seen it all. Never again will I underestimate the nips' ability to come up with more legendary shit.

This is almost certainly a retarded question, so apologies in advance, but I'm looking to buy a new laptop and I would like to know if 8GB of RAM is enough to play eroge (taking into account that I would need to run a virtual machine for many titles and would also like this computer to last me a few years).

How common is it to spend a long amount of time looking for a download only to find dead torrents or sketchy dl sites with paywalls? I'm new to this and want to play そして明日の世界より but I am having great difficulty. Or do you guys usually buy the official version?

>>17431360
What the fuck, how is universal basic income required or even relevant to this at all? Goddamn socialist motherfuckers.

>>17431457
Pretty common. I'm actually in a similar position at the moment with 初恋. Been looking for the past couple days and best I've found is a torrent that stopped at 11%.

As for そして明日の世界より I downloaded that game like a month ago. Have you looked everywhere? I forget where I found it at this point but I would bet a lot of money it was either nyaa, baidu, or animesharing.

>>17431468
Actually right after I posted that I found a torrent with one seed that is chugging along nicely now. Nyaa links are dead, and I couldn't get any of the mirrors on animesharing to work.

>>17431481
Nice. Also its worth noting sometimes it takes a day or two of waiting and suddenly a seeder will appear and the torrent will go fine. Its when you wait a day or two and nothing happens that you're truly screwed.

Goddammit Purplesoft, your shortstack fetish is going too far this time.

>>17431506
It really is. On one hand I think she's probably going to be best girl. On the other hand I think there's zero way she ends up being as good as Hotaru for me because those boobs are just too much. If only they could tone it down just a little.

>>17431467
Heh

Iit's so the protagonist and his new mother can NEET it up all day while fucking. There is nothing to do but grocery shopping and sex.

>>17431516
yeah but like, there's a hundred other ways they could've done this without drastically changing the current gov't in what you know is going to be a throwaway intro paragraph and then never referenced again. like his dad left him some giant inheritance.

it's just
fuck, I dunno. I'm a little in awe of the mere existence of this. something about this particular plot summary has broken me.

government-sanctioned lolimom-fucking on the dole
everyone's got a story to tell, they say.

>>17431540
It seems your complaint is against universal basic income and not the fact that he's fucking his new mother. Fucking your new mother is common enough in eroge I can't see it as a problem, you're probably some sort of right wing trash that thinks muh free market will solve everything even job loss from automation in which case I have nothing to discuss

>>17431555
what? no, politics has nothing to do with it. I'm amused at the unnecessary amount of backstory required so that this writer and like-minded readers can get his rocks off to this very, very specific scenario.

have a little faith, mate. we're not all nuts here. I don't even want to discuss any of this, it's just an extended version of me saying 'wow this is silly'.

>>17431555
Sounds like you have an axe to grind too.

>>17413070
>>17413318
>>17420877
Wait, Newton is actually good? I totally had it written off as one of those trash comedy VNs that takes a tired premise (genderbent historical figures) and goes nowhere with it. Guess I know what to pick up next.

>>17428787
One picture is clearly weird in a bad way.

>>17431555
Holy shit is it that SJW from the other day?

>>17431555
Where the fuck did that come from?

>>17431555
Don't put words into other people's mouths.

ITT Right-wing fascists silence and ridicule dissent. How typical!

>>17431755
Anti-/pol/ please go

>>17431755
Nobody cares about politics--at least not on the eroge thread.

Have you guys ever had to run a virtual machine for something? I'm trying to play something from 2003 and it won't run no matter what compatibility settings I use.

>>17431821
I'm normally running it in a Win 7 virtual machine because Japanese and Wine don't work so well together.

>>17431625
>Wait, Newton is actually good?
It isn't.

>>17431829
Haha well yeah that certainly makes sense. I suppose I should have specified people with a computer running on Windows. It's all good though because I was somehow completely oblivious to the fact that EGS has a section detailing OS compatability so I got the info I needed there.

>>17430329
Of course. Saying that is an ad populum, another fallacy.

What's up with the Japanese and perpetually selling shit at a high price? You'll look at the download of something several years old and its still 3,000 yen. I mean obviously 3000 yen isn't breaking the bank but for an ancient game it makes you wonder how many people even buy it at that much.

>>17431894
Learn how economics work.

>>17431446
More than enough. Most new eroge could be run on a decade-old PC. That being said, 8GB is what you should have anyway for doing anything not japanese. Especially using a VM.

>>17431896
You think 3000 yen is the sweet spot to maximize their profits, O wise one?

>>17431894
Remember eroge takes a lot longer to consume than other forms of entertainment. So if people are playing your old games for cheap there's a good chance they're doing that instead of your new games, undercutting yourself. Plus you can get games much cheaper second-hand, which means the niche of a way to get eroge cheaply is already filled, you're better off going for a convenience/supporting the devs angle. And then there's the simple reason that people have tried having sales on old games and found the increase in sales was really not enough to justify it.

Conventional economics of selling cheaply to as many as people as possible doesn't apply to something like eroge, due to the small but devoted market.

>>17430715

It has been already said, but you get all the information you need. As soon as you see the boss, you know their stats and weaknesses giving you plenty time to prepare your own stats and abilities. If you want to see their moves, there's a super cheap magic you can use. But I have yet to need it. Abusing weaknesses is so far the way to go for an easy victory if you train efficiently. But, I'm a major Atelier fan and I'm used to time management. It's part what makes the game fun to me.
A nice little addition is that you can see exact unlock conditions now, though I feel they could've written them into the training menu as well. Helps with the planning.

>>17431946
The company whose games I'm trying to get is no longer active, so they wouldn't have to worry about undercutting themselves. But yeah I guess I can buy the small market not enabling cheap sales. It's just vexing I suppose.

>>17431899
Yeah, thought so. Thanks.
Also wondering if 1080p support is common among newer titles... Again, sorry for the idiotic questions, I just don't really keep up as I mostly play old games on my PSP and Vita.

>>17431989
Most are 720p still, though you occasionally see a 1440p title (mostly by light).

>>17431989

A 1080p screen can display 720p games without problems... usually. Unless it's crap.

Some games have good enough art assets for you to not do anything, but that's rare. As rare as having a bicubic filter in 720p titles, which also allows you to scale very well to 1080p. You generally have to look into specific engine settings or whatever for that though and is up to the dev, even if the engine supports it theoretically. (This months Golden Hour, Aoiro Note and Hatsujou Sprinkle all share the same engine, but only Aoiro Note from ad:lib offers bicubic)
Some games also allow you to have your screen automatically switch to the game's resolution in full screen. This is the default setting in the engine just mentioned, though for my 1080p screen that doesn't work well with Golden Hour and its weird native resolution. Luckily it's big enough so even bilinear filtering is fine and I don't need that. For 720p stuff it works and looks fairly close to bicubic filtering, but it DOES depend on the screen. I have no idea how much difference there is with how screens display lower than native resolution though.

Finally there are plenty of engines and as such games that don't really do any of this. They only have a very cheap default upscaling filter that anyone can use (and is often default in games that offer more as well), that is just horrible for 720p->1080p. Here you need to lower your screen's resolution yourself. It's annoying, but it IS possible if you really don't like the window idea.

Note that sometimes just testing fullscreen can also surprise. Alice Soft's newest title for example looks just fine in 1080p without changes. So it upscales fairly good by default, which is unfortunately really rare and I wouldn't be surprised if enough people play games in just not ideal ways because they never touch the major scaling options, even if they are there.

>>17431467
Stuff like this you shouldn't put spoilers for, others miss out on the joke out of fear of spoiling a VN.

>>17431446
i don't know why you would need a new computer for vns, unless it's something with special effects like light's stuff.
Even then it should work fine on a old computer

Has the DMM (voiced) version of Doukyuusei ever been uploaded? I found the unvoiced one in the archive and anime-sharing but not that one.

https://twitter.com/eroge_kousin/status/894190378668089344

Mildly excited.

>>17431625
It's good AND concise. It's not up its own ass. Actually had jokes that made me laugh. Overall it's a solid 7/10 (the secret ending makes it an 8/10 though)

Don't listen to the samefag in this thread who hates Newton for some reason.

>>17433304
Or the samefag for that matter who plays it up as the greatest thing ever five times a thread and read some EGS reviews instead.

I just finished Ruri's route in Golden Hour. I didn't plan to read anything other than Yuki, but when the choice came up I couldn't say no.


I regret it. It turns out this game is too extreme for me.

>>17433431
>there can't be more than one liking this

You could try to actually argue yourself. Trying to argue with nothing is usually not ending very convincing.

>>17433466
Oh the routes aren't locked?
Anyone here who finished the full game can report which are good and which aren't?

>>17433523
Not locked. You can go directly to Yuki which is the true ending. But from what I've heard, after Yuki, all the other routes feel pointless.

VenusBlood Brave trial is out

>>17433466
What kind of extreme?

>>17433633
Cheating, abuse, assault, bullying. Ruri has a boyfriend from the start, and when he finds out that she is cheating with the MC, the whole school turns against them. Pictures of them having sex that is also spread around the school.

I think it's too much for me when I want a pure love story.

>>17433666
Lucky for you that's already in 10000 other games.

Can anyone recommend me high-school or university VNs with characters that actually act, speak, and think like real teenagers? I'm getting a little sick of stock characters freaking out about cafeteria club committees and the student council election. I want something about boyhood, self-discovery, depression, love both platonic and romantic; that kind of stuff.

>>17433677
Parfait

>>17433666
Shit, that ain't the fun kind of extreme.

>>17433685
>parfait
>characters that actually act, speak, and think like real teenagers

>>17433677
>I want something about boyhood, self-discovery, depression, love both platonic and romantic; that kind of stuff.
That's quite literally Himawari.

>>17433720
I skimmed and thought it was another one of those "I'm sick of school settings and want mature characters" posts. Well I guess it kinda is, but he wants to read a better executed 学園モノ rather than straying away from it.

>>17433677
You might be in the wrong medium for that kind of thing.

Unmei Yohou has something like that, the main character has some degree of self-awareness towards his situation (loser with no friends). He goes through some shit and comes out a better person on the other side in a way that might be up your alley.

It's also kinda unpolished and the side routes are hit or miss. But if you've got tolerance for rough gems you might try it.

>>17433781
>(loser with no friends)
Is there stuff where the loser with no friends actually enjoys his loneliness and it takes a lot for him to even open up? Like a more extreme version of Kakei from daitoshokan.

>>17433794

Chaos;Hea..

okay, no. It's really mostly just a token phase, as these games are usually about cute girls and if you remove them, nothing is left. So it kinda needs a game that's not about cute girls in the first place. I'm sure you find some loner type of characters in plotge. You can also read something where the protag is an outcast of sorts.

>>17433815
Taku tried his hardest and is still a pseudo hikki neet, so I can give him a pass.
Maybe I should read noah, never got around reading the side routes and I actually liked the cast.

>>17433794
oregairu

>>17433757
Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my question. My apologies that it's a question that has already been asked before. I skimmed the archive and when I found posts similar to mine with people asking for more mature characters, they were generally recommended Muramasa or something that was a bit less grounded in reality than I was looking for. The closest thing I have to an example of what I'm looking for are two stories by Hayakari Takeshi: Gunjou no Sora o Koete and Koi de wa Naku - It's not Love, but so Where Near.
>>17433750
I was interested in going through Island by the same author at some point in the future, so I'll move Himawari to the top of my queue. I know it's considered a classic around here, but I haven't gotten around to playing it as I just got back in to the medium a couple of weeks ago. Thanks!
>>17433781
You're probably right. I come from a literary background but I can't resist the format of the visual novel. I can't really describe it all that well but it just feels nostalgic to me. The sort of choose your own adventure branching narrative, seeing how different characters act when you're not on their path, the combination of visuals and music; it all feels very "comfy" to me, for lack of a better word.
Thank you for your recommendation. I haven't heard of the writer or the studio before. Out of curiosity I looked at what else the writer has done and I saw he recently worked on one called Suisou Ginka no Istoria. Jesus, the production values are through the roof on these modern VNs, it looks just gorgeous. I'll be sure to check both out.

>>17433856
>Suisou Ginka no Istoria
> the production values are through the roof on these modern VNs, it looks just gorgeous
I think you might be confusing it with something else.

>>17432008
>>17432073
Thank you for the help! Very informative.
>>17432311
Currently, I only read VNs on handhelds since my computer is an old Macbook that I got as a gift several years ago. I'm not buying it specifically for eroge, I just need a new computer in general but I do plan on using it to play eroge.

>>17433867
It does have some great looking CGs, some are unfinished but the ones that look good look great.

>>17433856
I feel you on that at least, I've got a fair chunk of literary background myself and though I know it'll rarely if ever happen, a mix of the two worlds would be everything I've wanted in fiction.

Istoria is a bit more drama, bordering on melodrama, but still has an interesting, conflicted protagonist. The writer's pretty good at writing MCs, one of the reasons I like him so much. They've got that bit of self-awareness that makes the teenage angst and fuckups so much more bearable.

But yeah if you like one, you'll like the other stuff he's done. If you don't, you probably won't like any.

>>17433856
Well if it's just about "grounded" then Parfait still fits. It's a brilliant game and so are the others by the author. For high school/university you have Konnyaku and White Album 2 respectively.

>>17433892
Good shit dude. I really appreciate it. Do you have a discord or something that I can contact you on that isn't, you know, in a 4chan context? I'd love to chat with you some more.

>>17433985
https://pastebin.com/fw3NRzxQ

>>17433677
read a fucking book

I'm trying to install ITHVNR for W10, I have cmake and the C++ package but I'm wondering where do I run the code to build the program? This kind of thing isn't my forte and I browsed the forum thread but didn't seem to find out what to do.

>>17433856
>what I'm looking for are two stories by Hayakari Takeshi
Try reading works from https://vndb.org/s214 https://vndb.org/s819 https://vndb.org/s216
>>17433867
probably with suisei ginka

Is Golden Hour any good?

>>17431467
>getting this triggered at the mere mention of the word "basic income"
Are you the guy who called Akikuru far left propaganda? Keep it up, it's hilarious.

Beat Hyakki Ryouran the first time. Pretty much entirely linear with the exception of the end, which had two short fate/stay night esque choices they probably should've left away. I especially liked the first, where no matter what you choose, the protag does the exact same, but simply gets killed in one case. Pic related is also resulting into the same thing, but what would be the safer one is ultimately another "bad ending". It'd actually be no problem if the choices just didn't exist, as what happens in the correct choices makes sense.


Anyway. It's a fun setup. You get thrown into something, you get your goal and after that it's probably working towards that goal. The nice thing is how you really don't know much of everything after playthrough one. You experience a lot, but why that happens or character backgrounds and so on aren't really given. You get the surface. Everything seems messed up by the end, as expected, but there's a good amount to find out I feel. Probably fairly important to bring this to an actually "good" ending. In other words, it's not just enforced for the lulz.

While that's all nice, the writing is unfortunately fairly low tier. All the typical crappy narration issues you'll get here. Repeats of whatever a character said, explanations for everything every single time, so the reader definitely understands, and sometimes even circling narration where the protagonist is thinking about the same question 2 lines later again, in case the reader already forgot what's currently the topic/question.
Speaking of the protag, he feels fairly inconsistent with some actions. But that just goes back to the writing. Some parts are generally just weird as fuck. It's not too important, but you'll laugh a few times for absolutely absurd reactions or simple things happening. For that reason as well, sometimes the protag also feels like an utter dunce. He'll get eventually there, but I feel the writer(s) really felt like padding the narration a lot. So sometimes it starts REALLY far away from the goal, at a point, nobody normal would ever start.


Other than that, atmospheric music and a fairly high amount of ero-scenes, but they are comparatively short. Some are even more "plot" then anything else. So 12 1cg scenes (11 hcg total) within ~450kb isn't too much. Even moege.. tend to have more, or at least longer scenes so it feels more. Will probably change, unless the game is ~2.6mb. (the 12 scenes are 17%)
I'll continue this. The main girl really seems worth getting outa there. The writing is unfortunate, but I got used to it already and while it can be a bit annoying, I've seen even worse... not that that's an excuse.

>>17435021
First thing I thought after seeing your pic is how the girl looks remarkably like the main heroine from 霧谷伯爵家の六姉妹 and after reading the summary it seems that this is not the only similarity.

>>17435035

It's the same series, yes. This is the third one already, as far as I know. I haven't read the older ones though. The summary makes the first one sound quite different from this one though. Well, aside of the whole overall setting with the mansion, some traditionalist family and whatnot.

>>17434570
It's nakige with cute girls and not so bad plot.

>>17435083
>It's the same series, yes. This is the third one already, as far as I know.

Never heard about a second (or first) game. Do you have the name? VNDB doesn't has sequels listed.

>>17435175

It's not sequels, but just a rough series, not even really official either. The biggest connection seems to be somewhat similar themes and the same artist. The first one is by a completely different publisher as well, so it can't even be an official series.

霧谷伯爵家の六姉妹 was already named, the other is 聖エステラ学院の七人の魔女 .

There should really be no need to play them in a specific order, but I suppose if one likes the general style, the should be fairly similar.

>>17435110
Why the low rating on VNDB then?

>>17435311
I really liked the atmosphere of 霧谷 so I'm going to check out the other games. Thanks.

>>17435021
She's cute and I like things with good atmosphere, which this looks like it could potentially have. Do you think everything else manages to make up for the writing?

>>17435380
EGS has the game at 80 so I dont know

I want Maruto to go back to VNs.

>>17435842
Is this purity fag shit? Girls can't have friends on their own?

>>17431468
>>17431483
Funny enough, I left the subeki torrent for it open when I went to bed, and when I woke up it had downloaded with a bunch of seeders. The subeki torrent was 300 MB bigger than the one I found with one seeder so I think I'll go with it. Looks like your advice was spot on!

I want a vn that is set in space, but doesn't revolve around mecha and fucking, something like Himawari, can someone recommend me a vn like that?

Is there a list like this for eroge?

>>17436499
You mean a list oif fujos and idolshitters fighting? I doubt it.

>>17433666
Picked up, thanks

>>17436466
Cannonball

Reminder that if you fuck your daughter you get more daughters.

Any good father-daughter incest eroge?

>>17436659
It's not pandering to the NTR people or those who like that sort of thing sexually. All of it is just drama presented in a way like it's not meant to be taken seriously. It's weird.

>>17436806
Musume Shimai

thoughts?

Anons, does anyone knows where to find [010929] [墨（BOKU）] ODEON by any chance? I tried to search wherever I could but come out with nothing. There is a cg gallery out there so it means someone had it at some point in time, right? Right?

>>17437441
Holy shit, I love this place.

>>17437628

You sure see interesting anons here.

>>17436806
>Reminder that if you fuck your daughter you get more daughters.

Thank you for your wisdom 4chan.

Unlike the 出来ない faggots on DJT you know Japanese and read Japanese VNs.
May I ask you how you became as good as you are?

I learned some basic Japanese, but I'm often stuck on sentence that I can't comprehend and I can't seem to find out what it means, what should I do in that case?
I'm at the point where textbook Japanese is easy but real Japanese troubles me sometimes.

>>17437730
>still no i-year-old loli games
the fuck is this industry doing

>>17418141
I'm reading it right now and it's really great. Seriously it makes me want to keep reading.

>>17437798
I don't know how good I am. I don't study japanese anymore, but I translate which is harder.
I found the easiest way to translate certain more complex sentences is to read it backwards and then put it in my own words.
You can try the same way, it may help break down longer sentences.

>>17437808
This is still my favourite scene in Chronobox, even better than the amazing scenes in the last route.

>>17437798
This doesn't strike me as a topic good for this thread.

But to give you an honest reply, you think really hard about the sentence you can't understand. If that doesn't help, you ask at one of the million good places where to ask about Japanese sentences (this thread isn't one of them). If this non-understanding happens too often to you, you go to the drawing board and learn more grammar and try reading something easier.

>>17437798
By reading a lot.
Google is the answer nearly 100% of the time for every question you can have. If you're bad at thinking for yourself get a teacher or someone you can ask.

>>17437798
Sekrit cheat sheet, this triggers the current /djt/

>>17437798
>what should I do in that case?
If you can't understand the sentence: try breaking it down to particles and words and translate them accordingly. Consult the COR if you don't know / forget what a certain particle does. Use Wiktionary or Jisho for words you don't understand. If you like wasting a couple of minutes every day - mine them and create your own Anki deck. If you have troubles disassembling a sentence - try Jisho (but only if you fail yourself or want to check your guess! Don't rely on it!). If you don't understand some slang term or some weird dialect - ask DJT, there's always at least one competent person or you could try figuring it out yourself (if you do know basic Japanese, I guess it wouldn't be a problem for you to look elsewhere).

And read. Read a lot. Your brain is gonna pick up certain patterns and in no time you'll be thinking "where did I heard it?" instead of "what does it mean?". That's how you pick up a language.

At least that's what I did to read webm related.

>>17437834
>Heisig
Did it, was a waste of time. Only useful if you want to learn how to write Kanji.

>>17437871
Or if you want to know 2000 kanji in 3 months and be done with it.
Just saying...
I can't be half assed remembering every single reading, however I know the meaning when I see it instantly.
Still it's you choice if you want to spend more then 3 months.

>>17437871
>Only useful if you want to learn how to write Kanji.
People don't write shit anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNxPRBvRQg
It essentially boils down to remembering radical strokes which are easy as fuck.

>>17437881
hey dude i spent 3 years learning 3000 kanji which is 1000 more than heisig gives you in 3 months so my method was obviously superior

>>17437932
The only thing this video showed me is that the women in it are dumb while the men did it easily.

See, this is why I said the topic doesn't strike me as good for this thread.

Everyone will just cocksuck their pet learning method.

>>17437972
I'm sorry I didn't listen to you anon, it's hard to when we're all Anonymous.

>SNuff FLag -あるいは睡蓮へ光が射すように-
>レイジングループ
torrent when?

>>17438052
>>17429457

>>17437987
My advice was "think and study". You truly strike me as someone who doesn't do either. Especially thinking.

>>17437798
How I went about learning japanese:
>Genki I+II
>Tobira
>All grammar on 日本語の森(youtube)
>try VN, read too slow to even learn anything
>read NHK easy news till I can go through articles really fast
>read very easy VNs
>read easy VNs
>read intermediate VNs
>read hard VNs
>read VNs
That's it. I also tried anki and heisig for a while, but they are memes. Don't fall for it.

I'm glad when you guys don't go fucking crazy with japanese questions being asked.
Or the guys that do do it are asleep.

>>17438120

This is still so off-topic that you are essentially just waiting for anyone to have enough and rage about it.

This is NOT the thread for it. I still don't know why again and again people come HERE, when there's a whole thread dedicated for this kind of stuff. It's like there's a thread about keeping dogs as a pet and someone comes in and talks about cats, while there's a cat thread around as well.

>>17438139
The way I see it, if you can talk about dating multiple girls in vns where the conversation extends to the real life aspects of harems that almost completely deviates from VNs, or even how japanese mythology in a game extends to talks about religion in general, I don't really see why talking about reading japaense VNs where the conversation turns to talking about the japanese language would be frowned upon.
The only reason I see against it, is that it makes people angry.

>>17438177
Problem is the topic already was discussed to death and every new discussion is just a rehash. I get why people are annoyed by it but I've seen worse things happening here.

>>17438177
It's because this topic would completely take over the thread if it were allowed. Really annoying how he was allowed to derail it just because he was polite.

>>17436806
There's really a lack of good father-daughter incest. It's usually just short and cheap nukige going into that field. The only thing I can really recommend is this >>17437143 and maybe older Blue Devil games like 鬼父2.

>>17438233
I mean Blue Gale of course. Dunno how that happened.

>>17438177

Again, there is a freaking thread DEDICATED to this topic. AND it has nothing to do with VNs itself, the story, their content and so on.

It's a completely different thing if things get derailed a bit based on a discussion about VNs and the meta aspect of it, which definitely belongs here. After all it's all about how xyz should be done in a VN and what people prefer there. Real life is just a part that gets referred to to support opinions. After all, all fiction is based on real life at its root. It's unfortunate if things just turn in circles, but that's still not off-topic.

>>17438106
The former is related to the games content, the latter isn't. Ask yourself "Would Japanese people be having this discussion right now?" and if the answer is no then it doesn't belong.

>>17438233
近親交際倶楽部 was hot too.

It looks like Parfait is getting progressively better. Kasuri's route was awesome.

I've read these routes so far:
Rea > Yui > Asuka > Kasuri

Rea: Shit. Waste of a route on a great girl and dynamic.
Yui: Forced drama. Couldn't get into her psychological trauma at all.
Asuka: Decent. The school festival section was really great. But the route dragged on a bit for too long.
Kasuri: Really good. The conflict was great and the pacing was decent. MC's puritanism got on my nerves though.