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Who's your favorite stage one boss, /jp/?

>>17347722
Take a new screenshot ree
>>17347821
Rumia
https://youtu.be/qzufoqagb8c

this is the only thread i can vent in this about.
>attend an anime convention
>they're going to tournament Gensou Rondo
>DL and play the trial for one night
>maybe 4 or 5 people contend
>it's a fucking blowout and i win without even using a god damn spellcard until the last round for shits and giggles
i won a ps4 copy of this game and didn't even try
>mfw nobody even knows what touhou is
honestly it was disappointing. i'll just stick to getting my ass kicked by clownbit.

>take a break from trying to 1cc DDC to play PCB for the first time
>get all the way to the final boss before I lose all my continues

I think I'm getting the hang of this series, but I haven't gotten my first 1cc yet

Still struggling with UFO here, atleast I managed to capture all the spellcards from Stage 1 to 4 except for Murasa's last spell Phantom "Sinker Ghost" which makes me panic sometimes. In the meantime I did some MoF 1ccs, will be leaving MarisaC for later because I'm not a big fan of that shot type.

>>17348144
Is that, or the fact that PCB is easier than DDC or any of the other main games. Maybe both.

>>17348070
>>17348144
Who are you quoting?

I don't get why people say Alice is really easy in PCB. I just cannot get a NNN against her on Hard no matter how many times I try. She seems a lot harder than Hard Meiling. PCB as a whole seems a lot harder on Hard than EoSD on the same difficulty, it seems flipped compared to the two games on Normal.

>>17348740
Yeah and they flip again on Lunatic
I wonder why

>>17348147
I'm a little confused at why you have MS but none of the older PC-98 games.

>>17348804
I only included the games I have on my pc right now, what's your favourite PC98 game to play? I might try LLS soon.

>>17348823
I would rank them in backwards production order actually, 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
4 is solid mechanically but too easy, 3 is jank but has a great cast and music, 2 has best girl Mima but is nearly unplayable due to the lack of focus mode and larger-than-normal hitbox, and I have no ill will against 1 but goddamn do I suck at it and after struggling to clear each route I don't want to touch it ever again

Why is gameplay videos of the EX bosses so relaxing to watch?

>>17348836
I don't know but playing them can be pretty exciting

God damn it.

Trying to 1cc 6 on Hard and the Library always fucks me up so bad. No deaths before library and only used one bomb, then by the end of Patchoulli I'm on my last life.

Guess I need to keep playing practice. Probably also need to be less conservative with bombs, wasting a bomb is so, so much less disheartening than wasting a life.

>>17347821
It's a tie between Nazrin and Seiran.

When can you be considered "good" at Touhou? What do you think the average skill level of Touhou players are?

>>17349506
It's up to the individual. I have Normal 1ccs in every game but Legacy LoLK but I consider myself to still be bad at the game, though I'm also probably harsher on myself than I would be on other people. I think if I can start getting Lunatic 1ccs consistently then I'll be "good" in my eyes, but still not great since there are LNBs and LNNNs and playing for score.

>>17348070
Disgraceful

>>17348144
>I haven't gotten my first 1cc yet.

MoF and TD are your best options if you really want to get your first 1cc quickly.

>>17349539
I fought my way to the end of DDC, I'd feel weak for giving up now. Even if I never should have started with DDC in the first place, now that I've played quite a few of the games to test the difficulty it's clear that I'm making the worst possible decision outside of LoLK

>>17349506
You can only ever be good relative to something or someone else. Kind of the gist is that when you really strive to improve, being "bad" is the stuff you already do that you want to fix and being "good" is the standard of play you want to achieve as a baseline, whatever those actually are. So typically, everyone is bad by default, and "good" is the level you think you should reaching. This often sounds defeatist but it's really the opposite, unless you make it defeatist.

>>17349521
>>17349576
I'm thinking slightly more objectively. Percentiles and stuff. My perception is something like pic related but I'm interested in opinions. I think a lot of people call it quits at normal and those that stick it out through hard usually get all the way to lunatic, which is probably a pretty big wall with only the really good getting to LNB levels and beyond.

>>17349576
Basically this, the skill ceiling in Touhou is so damn high that there will almost always be someone that makes you feel like a scrub in comparison.
People like >>17349521 that can only 1cc normal think they would consider themselves good when they can 1cc lunatic but once you can actually do that you realize how easy it is compared to other things. Even LNBs that appear as something insane to a beginner are barely even scratching the surface compared to good scoreruns.

>>17349593
Who is the population of interest? People who know Touhou in general? People who've played the games at least a couple times? People who've actively tried to clear the games? These each cut out massive chunks of people.

>>17349506
You can only be "good" if you are talented. If you aren't born talented, you're not "good" and you never will be. You can approximate goodness by a ratio of number of notable achievements over the time spent playing. The higher it is, the "gooder" you are. Notable achievements being stuff like scores (how close they are to the WR) and I guess LNNs (for survival).

The average skill level will tend towards high because mostly the talented players will keep playing and the shit players will give up and move onto something else.

>>17350964
>If you aren't born talented, you're not "good" and you never will be.
It's a video game, not magic, no one's born with good Touhou genes. How many tries did it take you to get your first clear? It's repetition and practice that builds skill and makes you "good" at the game.

>>17350117
I've thought about this, but I don't think cutting out any of those stages, except maybe the last one, would have a very large impact on the actual distribution of skill levels. At the very most it should only inflate the leftmost sections of my graph.

Holy fucking shit, how come LoLK is so fucking hard? when i fight the midstage boss of stage 2 i feel like im fighting a boss at least stage 3+, it's ridiculous. i put the game on normal because that's the difficulty i normally play in but this is so hard im considering going back to easy like a scrub.
i thought people saying LoLK was one of the hardest games where saying it by like a small margin, not this fucking huge gap of skill from finishing 1cc EoSD in normal to barely making it past stage 2 in LoLK normal.

>>17351315
I have a good amount of normal 1ccs and an extra clear yet I can't even get past stage 3 in LoLK, don't sweat it, that game is supposed to be that hard.

>>17351361
thanks anon, makes me feel better about having spent an hour of my life trying to get past the stage 2 boss...

>>17351121
No one said anything about Touhou genes. Talent comes from the innate ability to learn and retain stuff, and other things like reaction and coordination and precision and whatnot.

There is a reason why some learn faster than others, why some don't encounter as many "walls" while trying to improve, why some top out at a certain point, why some have no consistency. And no, the reason isn't because they don't "repeat and practice" as much. It's talent. Not that you would have any clue seeing as to how you're talking about petty garbage like a first clear.

How do you tend to play touhou games? One or two runs at a time, or do you go at it for hours at a time?

I tend to only do 1/2 runs at any given session, as I lose focus if playing for longer.

>>17351399
How many games have you 1cc'd in normal by the way?

>>17351552
Imperishable night and embodiment of the scarlet devil. i've made it past youmu(barely) in PCB too. im not a good player but i'm halfway decent in normal.

>>17351594
Oh boy, there's no need to push yourself to play LoLK then, I'd recommend clearing PCB and try to clear Imperishable Night with all the shot types if you haven't already (both Final A and B) then check out Ten Desires it's a nice game and it's considered to be one of the easiest too.

Doing clears with all the shot types in games that you have already cleared helps to improve your overall skills, atleast that's how I felt, then when you come back to the harder games it's much easier to make progress.

>>17351315
LoLK is the hardest Touhou game anon so don't worry.

I highly recommend you using Reisen since it's the best way to learn through trial and error without losing all your lives on the first stages.

>>17351594
Anon you are rushing things way too much. You still even haven't beat other hard touhou games like SA or UFO. Jumping directly to LoLK is a complete suicide.

I suggest trying every other game before LoLK, otherwise you'll only get yourself more frustrated.

>>17351896
>I suggest trying every other game before LoLK, otherwise you'll only get yourself more frustrated.
I did exactly that and I even chose Reimu for her smaller hitbox, and LoLK still pissed me off.

>>17351896
>otherwise you'll only get yourself more frustrated.
im still playing LoLK and i don't feel frustrated, i just feel like i slowly lost my sanity and im just now restarting on clownpiece's prison sign, my history just says 99+ and i feel my mind getting slowly chipped away every time i hear reimu burst.

>>17351315
Pointdevice mode is the way the game is meant to be played. Legacy mode isn't very well-balanced. A pointdevice mode clear is less difficult than an SA 1cc.

>>17352141
that's what im doing anon, pointdevice mode makes me lose my sanity but im already at clownpiece.

>>17352148
I deleted my post because I didn't see your last post about how you were playing pointdevice, sorry. I think my point still stands, though: LoLK is super hard because pointdevice mode makes things easier. ZUN said that despite how crazy the patterns are, he's never made a game that so many people have beaten.

Are the full fangames (Riverbed Soul Saver, Book of Star Mythology) supposed to be much easier than ZUN's games? Is it just the huge deathbomb window?

>>17352141
>because pointdevice mode makes things easier
PD is nothing more than advanced spell practice mode that makes lose your shit. If you want to beat LoLK you learn to graze.

>>17352173
>because pointdevice mode makes things easier
PD is nothing more than advanced spell practice mode that makes lose your shit. If you want to beat LoLK you learn to graze.

i gave up on clownpiece, i had only 1.80 of power left from dying and retrying so much and it felt that no matter how much i tried i wouldn't be able to get her health down enough to capture her current spellcard, which was the hell grace spellcard and honestly it was fucking hard.
i'll go play PCB and beat the shit out of youmu to feel better about myself now.

Can you deathbomb in the PC-98 games?

>>17349506
I'm in the same boat as >>17349521 but I consider myself to be pretty good. Don't fall for the lunatic players' lies, they're just a vocal minority. There are many more people who can't do a normal 1cc than there are turboskeleton hyperNEETs who can do one as easy as breathing.

So does the power inbetween shot types matter? Like will a 2.99 do more damage than a 2.00 in DDC and a 120 do less than 125 in earlier games? I'm assuming it doesn't change anything.

>>17352622
Your shot increases at certain thresholds. e.g. in older games where 128 is the maximum, anything from 112-127 will act exactly the same.

I'd love to see anyone who thinks PD is easy get to PDH on lunatic having used up all bombs earlier in the run. I feel like anyone who thinks LoLK legacy is way too hard isn't playing the game right, is stuck (to no fault of theirs) to a lower difficulty, or isn't willing to play on the easier shots. LoLK reverts TD's "shit's easy, but we don't give you many resources" and goes full on "shit's hard, but here's 30 lives if you know what you're doing" mode to the point where you can bomb through most(or all, if you're good, see https://youtu.be/OPx4o8tI8fM)) of the game and still manage to clear. You just need to learn how to abuse grazing on every chapter, which is, to your credit, harder on lower difficulties. Legacy is really only decisively "harder" than the other titles at the low miss LNB level and above.

>>17352548
Yeah, in MS and LLS at least. You won't hear a death sound, though. You can test this by holding down against the bottom of the screen, which makes your options positioned slightly differently than if you weren't pressing anything. Dying resets your options' positions to the not pressing anything state, and if you bomb at just the right time, you'll see your options jump to the default state and back.

>>17352112
Try Reisen

>>17352629
That's what I meant with shot types, couldn't think of the right phrasing for it. Glad to know though

>>17352657
I need a break before I can touch it again. I will eventually, but perhaps I'll try for my second 1cc on SA first.

>>17351549
Once, unless I fuck up before the end of stage 4, and then I restart. Sometimes I'll just practice a stage or do the camera games if I don't have much time.

>>17352236
There are various reasons depending on the game. In general ido games hand you bonuses on a silver platter.

I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR

>>17354052
Give up? Retire?
Start training, make a comeback!

Tried again and it was much more fun than I had expected. Reisen's absurdly big hitbox is quite easily made up for by that absurd bomb.
Junko's fight is shite.

Oh btw, does anyone know how to get the games from 14 onwards in fullscreen? Each time I try, the screen flashes and the game crashes without even starting properly.

>>17355299
Always start windowed, then alt enter into fullscreen.

>>17355299
change the resolution, usually the settings have it in the biggest resolution but your PC might not be able to handle it. but if you change it to a lower resolution it will open up properly. worked for me on 15

>>17355099
nice anon

>>17354052
>>17354986
I FUCKING DID IT!

Now i only have DDC and LoLK left.

>>17355966
forgot picture

>>17355974
Damn that was close, congrats anon!

>>17355966
>>17355974
You could always take a whoopin', hah ha ha hah.

Nice job though, I haven't even started 11 properly yet.

>>17347821
Rumia!
I can't erase EoSD Stage 1 of my mind.

>>17356007
She dies in 10 seconds and has a terrible portrait.
Yuyuko best stage 1 boss hands down.

I'm noticing a pattern here in my IN EX attempts
1st try wipe on mokou 1st card, 2nd try 2nd card, 3rd try 3rd car, and 4th try 4th card.

On the bright side I actually captured one of keines spells this time so I'm making progress.

やったぜ
No lives left but who cares!

>>17356051
おめでとう anon!

>>17348144
I managed to get a 1cc in PCB on normal. I then tried playing it on lunatic and couldn't even get past Alice.
That game is hard as fuck even on normal.

>>17356051
Amazing job!

what you call touhou waifus again?

>>17356255
too hoes

Where can I download Fantasy Maiden Wars series?

>>17356184
>>17356252
Thank you!
My next LNB goal is probably PCB, though there's little chance I'll get it before HSiFS comes out and I'm mostly going to be playing that once it does. But either way, wish me luck!

>>17356235
I managed to get 1ccs as all options in EoSD, a few months later I got them on PCB. Sakuya, Reimu, and Marisa. A.
That was two and a half months ago, and I'm still working on Marisa B. It feels like another game entirely, I can't seem to figure her out for the life of me. At least I'm getting close, my 1cc died to Ghost Butterfly today.
I mean I get what people mean when they say it's one of the easier ones, but Youmu compared to Sakuya is like the fucking devil from the seventh circle of hell. I can do ol' Not-Dio no miss no bomb, but Youmu? 3 lives lost last run, and it was one of the better ones. Damn. I really need to just give in and bomb her without worrying about dodging whatever she dishes out.

>>17356429
For me, Youmu was more difficult than Yuyuko, in all honesty. I've only ever played as Sakuya A in PCB, so I'm really not sure about Reimu or Marisa.

>>17352650
>You just need to learn how to abuse grazing on every chapter
explain

>>17357106
Read the in-game manual or the wiki, regarding chapter bonuses.

>>17356337
PCB LNB is pretty easy in comparison to EoSD. You can probably do it before HSiFS.

These last two days I've gotten close to 1cc'ing lunatic EoSD. I'm making it to Remilia even if I die to anything and everything on the way. If I can just stop dying to anything and everything...

My closest attempt so far was dying with 3 bombs in stock halfway through scarlet gensokyo yesterday. I also died with a full stock bombs twice on the way to her to random things during that attempt.

I got plenty of resources. Just win already!

>>17360062
I have had the same problem with every game, I'm too greedy in holding my bombs.

I'm having a problem running ULiL. When I try opening it, the game window doesn't even appear and it terminates the process shorty after.

>>17360062
Best advice I'd give on this is to just designate certain spell cards that you'll bomb, rather than holding on to them for a desperate situation.

>>17360184
Windows?

>>17360245
Yes, Windows 10. HM works perfectly, ULiL doesn't unfortunately. This is all I have in the folder for it.

Another Scarlet Gensokyo attempt.

>>17360186
I'm already doing that. I should probably reevaluate though so thanks for the advice. I gotta be more careful. Last run I died with 3 bombs in stock on Water Sign "Bury In Lake". I bombed too and I wasn't fast enough.

>tfw i managed to clear my first extra
>Iknowexactlywhyiahavethisboner.webm

Started clearing single character runs in IN. Is sakuya that much harder than yuyuko? I didn't even try her yet but i already have a feeling it'll be difficult

>>17361773
>have to capture 60 spell cards to unlock phantasmal
fug.

>>17361841
>>17361773

>>17360184
That will happen when the game window is too large for your screen. Check.

Which character is easiest to 1cc Lunatic in TD?

>>17362424
Probably Reimu, she is always the best.

>>17361787
Well, She doesn't have the power Yuyu has, her spread isn't as wide, her deathbomb isn't as powerful.
She can kill familiars, but this isn't good all the time and instead of Marisa you get Reimu, which can be harder taking into account that you cannot hide the yin yangs, and sometimes can't kill them before they reach you.
Great job getting Alice Solo btw anon!

>>17361787
A lot of people say Alice's shot type is the worst in the game but I think Sakuya's is. Her shot type is very weak and doesn't even have that much spread, her bomb the worst in the game(for a human), and she's forced to deal with familiars, which IMO is worse than being forced to not deal with them.

I would love to use the Scarlet Team if not for Sakuya.

>>17361919
"complaining about /v/ in thread for video games"
drink bleach

>>17362799
>but I think Sakuya's is
It is.

>putting what is practically a survival spell that requires you to stay unfocused on the second MIDBOSS [1]
Why do people say that SA is in the same league as UFO and LOLK when it's so much harder?
[1] Anonymous, "/jp/ - Otaku Culture", 4chan.org, 2017

>>17363788
Insufficient citation, can't pin it on one specific post.

>>17363788
who are you quoting

>>17363788
Theres one person in these threads that blathers endlessly about SA being easy for giving you "free bombs", even though you'd be lucky to get more than three or so in one stage and you have extreme pressure not to use any anyway because of the power loss. Not to mention that the bombs are all garbage as well. Every other game in the series balances the bullet dificulty by giving you tools to deal with it, SA just fucks you on everything. I've 1cc'd nearly every other game on normal but I can't even GET to Okuu in SA, fuck that game seriously.

>>17363788
>survival spell that requires you to stay unfocused
Are you talking about parsee first spell card (as a mid boss)?. That card is hardly a survival spell and you can do it switching between focus and unfocus Also parsee hitbox wont hit you, you can pass over her dealing a lot of damage, on my runs on SA i could beat her on her second iteration with any shot type

>>17362760
Thanks, i didn't really find the alice run hard though, just annoying since you have to be below the bosses all the time.
I also just completed a run with sakuya, after remaining with 0 bombs and lives and not capturing the final spell because not enough damage. Gonna do the eirin stage with marisa now to have a breath of fresh air from that bullshit.

I think that's 5 scarlet gensokyo in a row now. 3 from yesterday and 2 from just now counting after I made it past stage 1. This game is full of bullies. Please let me have just a single life for scarlet gensokyo.

>>17362941
There's plenty of other places to discuss touhou games other than /jp/. If you want to act like a retard, go do it somewhere else. Hell, even /vg/ has it's own general nowadays.

I've 1cc'd all touhou's on normal pretty much before. After taking like a year break, got back into let. Can almost 1cc lunatic EoSD, normal cleared IN, MOF, SA, UFO, but I'm still trying to 1cc PCB again.
For some reason for me perfect cherry blossom is a pain to beat. I think youmu is probably the hardest stage 5 boss for me, and yuyuko's fight I usually die before I even get to her final spellcard.
I just want to prove myself and move on to the extra stages again because they are fun.

>>17365654
if every time you die to youmu you throw a random tantrum and say something along the lines of "WHAT THE FUCK JUST HIT ME" then it's normal. just train some more.

>>17365654
I'd move on to the extras anyway or try doing pcb on a harder difficulty than normal unless I misunderstood you. I took a break from grinding my first lunatic 1cc in eosd last week and did a little bit of practice on yuyuko and youmu. Youmu wasn't as bad as I thought she would be and yuyuko is pretty easy except for ressurection butterfly. It's probably easy too but I suck at it. Learn how the spellcards actually work instead of just dodging.

>>17361773
>>17361841
>>17363788

>>17364151
>Every other game in the series balances the bullet dificulty by giving you tools to deal with it, SA just fucks you on everything.
Really? I thought that those 3 options per character were pretty cool, but I've yet to start cracking down on SA properly.
Those are your tools, it's just that it's more passive instead of just a bomb that has X seconds of invulnerability and does X dps. You can jump borders of the screen, change direction of your lasers, autocollect every single thing no matter where you are, straight up double your bomb count, move as fast as Aya. I'd say at least one of these gotta be pretty freaking useful. Or are all these options really meaningless in the long run?

>>17366443
Yes, they're too weak to make their side effect actually meaningful. And Yukari's teleport ability is quite a gamble with how slow it is, you can get target killed pretty easily.

>>17366443
SA has a system that lets you collect all items on screen no matter where you are(though it's unreliable) for all characters, and the border thing is only useful for one or two spell cards. Moving as fast as Aya is a good way to get killed, omnidirectional lasers are pointless for most spellcards and stages, and Marisa's double bombs bomb does literally no damage and lasts around a second.

>>17366443
I personally really like Alice for that double bomb gimmick. It's a weak bomb but I generally only need a bomb for a second so I can get out of a jam. The only problem is she takes more P cards to get to max power so bombing too much can completely kill a run, and it has for me before.

Hey guys, I can't beat Cirno. Any advice?

>>17367977

Will I ever recover from this anons? most of the times I don't even reach Stage 6 or I reach Byakuren with 2 lives or 1. This time I got to that fight with 3 lives and 3 bombs, this is by far the most demoralizing defeat I had playing this game.

>>17367977
Which one?

>>17368055
EoSD, Easy mode

>>17368122
There's a limit even to ironic shitposting.

>>17368033
It happens to the best of us. This one time I was fighting Yukari and right as she exploded during her final spellcard I lost my last life. It sucks but you gotta keep on going, man.

>>17368033
The most fury inducing thing for me is by far LoLK, +99 on clownpiss laser and star card make me want to tear the head of someone.

Finally I got my first lunatic 1cc with EoSD! I'm a lunatic player now! This took me forever. 7months on and off. I didn't think I was going to be able to do it.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=43637

>started play touhou yesterday
How long did it take you guys to git gud and 1cc the game?
pls no rude answers

>>17368220
Just keep playing, you will get good eventually.

>>17368220
Almost if not 2 years to 1cc easy touhou 8. Another 2 years passed and now im sitting on being comfortable with most games on normal and having completed a couple of the extra stages.

>>17368033
On my UFO 1cc I had a literal god run and got up to mommy with 5 lives and two bombs, finished with one bomb and one life left. She's definitely the hardest part of UFO, at least for me.

>>17368220
Technically it took a year to 1cc EoSD on Normal, but there were a lot of long breaks during that year and I wasn't practicing efficiently. When I finally got that first 1cc I was knocking out the other games on an average of two weeks apart, with the shortest durations being less than 24 hours (MoF) and the longest being three months (GFW). Things slowed down considerably once I started giving Extra and Hard stages a shot, and I still only have three clears between those two things, but I can comfortably play most games on Normal now at least.

EoSD is a good starting point, right?
>Tfw can't even clear normal with continues

>>17368236
>>17368247
And how long did it take you to just beat the game normally?

>>17368220
I'm a bit under a month in and have beaten DDC a couple times, and nearly beat TD, but I haven't 1cc'd any yet.

>>17368283
I don't remember since I don't count the bad ending as "beating the game." I think there was a gap of time between getting the bad ending and getting the good one though.

>>17368273
Ya it's a great starting point. I played them 6-15 myself.

>>17368220
It's hard saying. I played the game as much as 8 hours a day when I really got into it. It's a hard game. Especially if you don't have any prior shmup experience. It's going to take you a long time to get your first 1cc but once I did I 1cc'd the other games a week apart. Except for SA. That was my next brick wall.

Anyway start small. Use all your continues and see how far you can get. I vaguely remember having to use continues in stage 1. You'll get better and it was fun every time I got further in the game.

>>17368220
My first 1cc was EoSD, which took about a month of practice, followed by a six month hiatus before actually playing again and clearing. A few years later I finally resumed playing the rest of the games. Two weeks of playing so far, I think I resumed on the 8th of July, I have cleared most of the games, as well as three extra stages.
I probably wouldn't use my experience as a guideline, though. I have no clue how I managed to clear all of this in such a short amount of time.

>>17368033
Ya it happens. Some of my best endboss attempts have been with the least resources and I've performed worse with more resources at times. You almost had her. Just know you'll get there again and it's ok if you fail again. You'll get there again and again until you win.

>>17365951
On pcb I was doing lunatic for a bit because I find when I go back to normal it feels like I'm used to doing the other cards, but they're usually in less numerous bullets etc. I can get to prismriver on lunatic before continuing.
But youmu is still a pain compared to reisen, sakuya, sanae etc

>>17368220
You'll probably get as many different answers as there are players.
I'm a bit on the opposite side of the spectrum, starting with SA and moving on to other games. Took me a week to get normal 1cc and you can check pic related for relative dates on later 1ccs. I had a huge hiatus between Lunatic and Ultra Lunatic though. Got my LNB around the time I got ultra but I don't have the replay on me.
I don't have previous shmup experience but I am pretty good at games considered "hard" in general. I played Super Hexagon(fast paced gap finding) at a very high level before Touhou, which probably helped me get my sea legs faster.

>>17368397
Ya Youmu is pretty hard. That last bit of my comment about learning how the spellcards work was kind of me talking to my past self. I only learned to really figure out the patterns semi recently. Sometimes the first solution isn't always the best one either.

>>17368437
I feel I definitely do better on spellcards I have more fun with or one where you really know how to do it, its no problem. With youmu's I think the one I really don't like is the one where the bullets rise up slowly from the bottom and she shoots directional big strings of red bullets at you. I know what to do but it feels there is a lot of multitasking going on. Oh and her earlier non-spells too. I get it but its the way you have to move to dodge them that fucks with my brain. However, her last spellcard is actually my favourite and have captured it before.

Yuyuko's is also a lot of moving around...like dancing...

>>17368220
Close to a month to 1cc EoSD with no external advice, meaning that I played with input lag, and it took me a few days to notice the function of the Shift button. Also, I did not realize that bombs are restocked upon death, so I did not bomb at all until I got to Remilia. All in all it took me ~20 hours of playtime. You can do it faster if you are smart about it, but some degree of grinding to improve accuracy and reading fundamentals is unavoidable.

>>17368151
>>17368173
>>17368246
>>17368383
Thanks guys, most of my runs do well till I reach Stage 5, I find most of the stages to be annoying to play rather than the bosses themselves, this was the first time I saw Byakuren's last spellcard. I don't usually get mad but losing at the end is just heartbreaking, atleast now I'm getting used to farm those resources with the ufos.

>>17368220
2 months, played all the games on easy then I Normal 1cc'd PCB.

>>17368619
Thinking of doing that since I had trouble on DDC (But managed to complete easy on my first run, losing a continue only to the final boss, on spell cards I had never seen before) but even on LoLK, easy mode feels too easy. Too boring. Even if I can't beat the normal versions of the games.

>>17368220
normal - 1 week
lunatic - 2 months
lnb - 5 months
tfw shit

>>17368877
1/10

Can someone remind me what lnb stands for?

>>17368877
sounds normal for someone that isn't shit at shmups desu

>>17364506
Godspeed anon

>>17368191
Great job anon!
Feels great doesn't it? Getting it after so much work.

>>17369211
lunatic no-bomb

>>17369378
thanks m8

What are the most important things to take care of in a score run? Take a simple game like EoSD and a complex one like IN as examples.

>>17369646
All of the games are fundamentally different to score in. You have to consider them totally separately.

>>17369703
Oh yeah, sorry for the dumb question. You do have to take anything into account i guess, things like grazing and spell bonuses. How about the points you get from cancelled bullets though? How relevant are those?

>>17369373
Thanks. I still feel good the next day. It's a shame EoSD didn't have playtime built in. I wish I had the foresight to keep track of the time I put into it. All I know is it took me many times longer than my first normal 1cc.

>>17369737
Like I said it depends on the game, because even how the common mechanics like grazing and spell card bonuses factor into score differently across game. In SA graze is tied to the point item value and you basically try to supergraze the whole game to the point where you bomb and suicide repeatedly early on just to milk graze on certain patterns. Meanwhile in MoF grazing doesn't contribute anything at all to score, literally zero.
That's a pretty extreme example but it illustrates that if you want to ask about scoring you need to specify a game or else you can't even give advice.

>>17303639
Well. It took some time but here it is. Don't know why are people saying that TD sucks but I certainly enjoyed Seiga's wild ride.

>>17370492
Nice job. I don't think it sucks either. It might be the weakest out of all the games for me though but that doesn't mean I didn't like it.

>>17370492
>wild ride
You know, seiga isn't really in the position for you to say that.
But yeah, TD is pretty comfy and aesthetic, only thing is it has a weird difficulty curve which makes the game overall too easy.

>>17368033
The same happened to me twice before i got my 1cc.

Don't worry anon, you'll recover.

>>17368033
Play a different game to shrug it off anon. I once died against flandre just as her life bar went to 0, but i took a weeklong break and beat her when i came vack from it.

>>17370518
I don't think it's too easy. Certainly not with the resources the game gives you. Like someone mentioned people usually play TD after SA and UFO so that might be the reason.

>>17370655
The key to most spells in high stages in TD is to just keep moving, and they involve more understanding of how they work than raw skill to dodge them. I don't doubt that it can always serve a good challenge though.

When does ZUN's art start to improve?

>>17371009
You can't improve perfection.

>>17371009
He sure knew how to make a scary game.
from IN but it has low points like MoF

>>17370546
>>17370570
I DID IT!! my god I couldn't leave this game without trying again.

>>17371091
Good job not giving up.

>>17371028
>low points like MoF
Personally I think he peaked during 9-12 but it's all opinion I suppose.

I can't play Youmu for shit, yet I can't stop playing her. How do I not suck at her in TD or IN?

>>17371166
10 to 12 sprites had a majestic feel to it which was even though MoF sprites had the faces a bit too balloon-ish for my liking. PoFV were good but looked too friendly though that's fair for how the game story is. IN sprites have achieved classic status for me so i just like them a lot. TD had well made sprites in terms of design but boring looking. 14 and 15 were okay, i have no strong opinion on those.

goddamit all the 2hu games control perfectly fine except for SA
diagonal moves sometime work sometimes and sometimes they don't and I can't move right in focused mode
is there a fix for this without resorting to buying a controller ? too used to arrow keys and shift

>>17372101
What i did once was remap the arrow keys to something like IJKL keys but a different problem comes into play with that which is that keys randomly get locked during play, most of the time screwing you up. So either you buy a different keyboard or as far as i know you're doomed.

>>17372101
I want to say it's your keyboard, but the problem is exclusive to SA? Are you sure about that?

>>17372174
>keys randomly get locked during play
>randomly
No it just depends on which keys you're using. Have you tried with WASD?

>>17372250
I did but it just gets my hands crossed and switching hands makes it even worse. I use controller now though, so it doesn't matter

>>17372250
yeah the problem is exclusive to SA so far, all the games from EoSD to MOF worked perfectly
what's weirder is that controls fuck up when i'm shooting with atleast one orbiting thingy around me
I tried deleting and redownloading the game incase I meddled with the controls too much beforehand but it's muda

>>17347722
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This is my latest run against Raiko. Say something nice to it.

I have a problem in eosd pcb and IN, if I press the right key, then press the left key while keeping right pressed, the player doesnt go left. This doesnt happen in later games. Is this normal? Its really fucking with my playstyle and I cant make swift dodges.

why is MoF so stupidly hard without bombs ?
it seems you don't need any skill at all but just pure knowledge of the level at this point

>>17374555
>Is this normal?
Yes. For MoF and on left out-prioritizes right instead, so this isn't particularly different.

>>17374618
>it seems you don't need any skill at all but just pure knowledge of the level at this point
This makes you sound like a total scrub, as though you've never played STGs before.

>>17374763
I don't care what I sound like and if I ever played any STG other than touhou, it's just that MoF feels so much different than the others.

>>17374618
It's about bombing on the parts you have a hard time with. Just like with other games, if you get the need to spam bombs already at eosd stage 3 then you probably won't make it to the end.

>>17375223
yeah, this need grows during the fourth stage but I feel this is just coming from frustration
Is not bombing at all actually helpful ?

>>17374787
Memorization goes a long way towards minimizing mistakes in any of the games, not just MoF, and not just Touhou either. If you want to play no bomb runs you're just going to have to memorize some stuff, and MoF isn't really more demanding in this regard than the others.

>>17375223
What if I can dodge everything stages 1-5 but absolutely need to bomb every single spellcard during Remilia's fight?

>>17375603
Not what difficulty curves are like but at that point you could just practice remilia to perfection and get a no miss run.

>>17375691
I didn't do it perfectly. It was basically how my first 1cc went and I still had to bomb twice on Patches and twice on Sakuya. Lost a life somewhere stage 5 too, all other resources were sucked away at stage 6.
But it worked. I seriously doubt I could do the same in MoF.

>>17375881
Indeed, if anything MoF is tougher on the way you have to manage bombs too, making it harder no matter what.

I know what it is I'm doing wrong and how to dodge near every spellcard in DDC perfectly, yet I still die to stupid shit that I should be able to dodge.

Is this normal or am I just a scrub?

>>17375940
Beats me. Maybe you just need a break.

>>17375940
It's normal. You're probably playing close to your skills level. These games are hard and doing 1cc runs can be really intense. You might just a need a break.

This is the second time PoFV crashes when I save a replay...

>>17375969
>>17376034
That might be a good idea, I've been stressing over trying to get a 1cc asap and that's probably making me suck.

>>17376205
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Phantasmagoria_of_Flower_View/Gameplay#Bugs
Now that I read that, it sorta makes sense that my Cirno Lunatic run desynced

>>17376295
I only got the replay desync bug in SA and TD and it got fixed by watching the replay entirely from Stage 1, it's also weird that the wiki specifically mentions Cirno Lunatic.

Anyone still playing Hisoutensoku?

>>17376972
Me but i basically can't play online anymore because i only have 30 minutes after i turn on my pc before it stops connecting to any network until i turn it back on. So i just try to get 1ccs hard on all characters

>>17376995
I would reinstall if there were people to play but I don't have ability to forward ports so I can't host
are there any games with similiar mechanics?

>>17377008
I think soku and obviously swr too are pretty unique with the dashing thing and all that stuff, so as far as in know, nope.

>>17375535
yeah, maybe I was just angry playing it and not feeling my skill there
I've been playing on TD normal and recently 1cc'd it, actually training for the extra stage and for the 1cc in hard mode, perhaps it's just that I have memorized TD too much compared to the other games, you tell me

>>17376205
It may be because you have 5/5 slots filled on your results screen. Using a score.dat with everything unlocked but empty slots for the categories you want to play could work.

>>17375881
For me, the hump of MoF is stage 4. If you can make it through stage 4 without dying you're golden; the rest of the stages and bosses are pretty doable after that point. Also throw out your 5 power bomb whenever the fuck you feel like it, it's free.

>>17371091
Nice anon! Very proud of ya.

>>17368220

I've been thinking about getting past listening to touhou music and playing the games but I'm paranoid fuck about downloads and can't choose where to do it.

>>17377881
Moriya Shrine is safe

I read most people who play touhou are cute little girls. You are all cute girls here too right?

>>17379012
They were talking about the characters in the game

>>17379012
I don't know about the cute part...

>>17377811
>>17371115
Time for SA now I guess.

>>17380652
Have you tried SA before now?

>>17380715
Yeah I only cleared it on easy, right now the furthest I could get is Stage 5 (Normal).

>>17380781
Ah I was going to say it's both really good and hard. In any case have fun.

Today was a good day

>>17381521
Now do it without using a passive item.

Do you consider using the hitbox mod on EoSD to be cheating?

>>17379012
Most normal and hard players are not cute girls, but I hear Lunatic is something only cute yokai can beat.

>>17381975
I guess and I don't really care if anyone does. I never felt the need to use it myself.

>>17381975
Not really. I never felt the need to use it though.

>get tired of losing and decide to try easy mode
>still takes all of my lives to win because I kept doing stupid shit like running into bullets without paying enough attention

A win is a win i guess

>>17381975
Yes. I wouldn't harp on you as much as starting with extra lives/bombs but I'd still give you a condescending look.

>>17381975
What about the EoSD retexture patch?

>>17372101
>>17372405
After quite a lot of tinkering it seems the problem is I have an azerty frog keyboard, and the solution was as just simple as to press alt + shift to switch to qwerty
what a relief, phew

>>17382379
It's subjective. I think the game looks better without it.

>>17382379
Why would that be considered cheating?

>>17382414
Also i meant it's subjective whether you think it looks good or not. It's not cheating at all.

>>17382379
It's not cheating but you have shit taste if you use it

I was not prepared.

>finally get SA normal 1cc
>replay desyncs

>>17382905
Have you tried watching the replay from Stage 1? most of the desync bugs occur when you watch the replay from stages 2 to 6.

>>17382905
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Subterranean_Animism/Gameplay#Bugs

GFW ExNB!
This is when it is such a shame that new games don't have the pretty results screen that the old games had.

Well I can finally cross PCB off my list for now.
I'm supposed to play mostly unfocused if I'm doing IN teams right? On normal? Harder I suppose you can farm points just by grazing with Y side. But I'll do that later.

>>17384723
Focus against bosses from stage 3 onwards. Instead keep unfocused for the stage part

how do i play pofv by network

>>17384851
Gross

>>17384851
Delet this, nephew

This hurts. Had 1.00 power and one bomb for her entire final spellcard. Just one more second and I would have cleared.

Only marginally related but where is the best place to buy Touhou games in Europe? It seems amazon.jp does not ship them here and Amazon.de has ridiculous prices. I want to order EoSD specifically. The cheapest I found was J-list but I thought I'd ask before ordering, thanks for the help.

>>17386609
That's just plain unfair and awful but well the same happened to me while trying to get my first Normal 1cc at UFO, then got it after trying again. Just know that if you were able to make it that far it means you can do it and you eventually will.

>>17387139
>just plain unfair and awful
Pretty much like UFO

When rapidly pressing Z for the extra shots instead of holding Z, it seems like I get more input lag. I don't think it's just psychological since I've tried it with a script too.
I'm using np2fmgen

Ok, i give up.
Can someone please tell me how do i grind lifes on DDC?

I know that both MarisaB and SakuyaA are supposed to be the best characters for it, but i just don't understand how it works and end up grinding a shit ton of bombs instead,

The game isn't that difficult at all, but i'm not good enough to 1cc a Touhou game with 3-4 lives only.

>>17387253
You must be nue here

>>17390286
PoC/bomb autocollect a lot of shit at once = life piece. Not enough shit but still a decent amount = bomb piece. Too little shit = nothing. Every 5th bomb piece gotten this way is a life piece instead.
Basically PoC/bomb whenever there's a lot of items on the screen. MarisaB helps generate items to collect with her bomb and SakuyaA's shield can be popped for a second autocollect per bomb, which is why they're good. Takes a little bit of guessing to find the thresholds on how many items for a bomb/life piece but it'll come with experience. Don't try to always wait for enough items for a life piece because usually there aren't enough.

I died on her final spellcard three more times before clearing. Once again, had only 1.00 power, though with one more bomb than before. So happy to be done, fuck UFOs.

>>17390684
Congrats! I knew you could do it.

>>17390684
Good work anon. Happy to see you got it.

>>17390722
>>17390725
Thanks, you two. The fight itself wasn't too bad, it was the stage that completely fucked me over. Glad I can start playing another game that doesn't have UFOs in it.

So i was going for a run on pcb normal with sakuya A to fill some squares in the chart, and seeing i had 8 lives and used no bomb by the end of stage 5 i decided "fuck it, lets just do it without bombs" and so i started dying even to yuyukos non spells.

>>17390808
Something similar happened to me, I got a no miss no bomb run till the Prismriver Sisters, then I thought to myself "I should try doing a no bomb run, this would be my very first one!" and lost like 4 lives to them.. had to quit after that.

>>17390684
UFO is FUN
FUN!

>>17390529
Just what i needed, thank you anon!

>>17368476
I didn't know reading the manual counted as external advice.

>>17390286
>>17390867
To clarify a bit further, when you PoC a number from 0.5 to 2.0 will appear. 2.0 gives you a lifepiece, while anything less gives you a bomb.
Not enough items to reach even 0.5 is when you get nothing.

>>17381975
Eh, I definitely don't recommend it. I tried it once and the hitbox is slightly off-center, so if you use it you're just misinforming yourself anyway.
EoSD hitboxes are easy to understand anyway, it's just the middle of the characters' bows on their backs.
The hitbox mod makes it harder imo.

Fuck Yatsuhashi and her shitty arrows, jesus christ.

>>17391718
Yatsuhashi should die in a fucking fire, her and her fucking sister.

>got to stage 6 on one continue
>beat the game without needing all my continues.
I can feel the 1cc within my grasp, /jp/, I just need to master benben and Shinmyoumaru, and to stop dying to Roar "Strange Roar"

>>17393095
>and her fucking sister.
wow wow let's not get ahead ourselves!

Finally got IN Exclear with every shot

>EoSD, first modern windows game
>"hey vampires, shit's too foggy, cut it down a notch"
>LoLK, most recent complete windows game
>ayylmaos trying to genocide the youkai so they have a new home in case they're unable to stop the being of pure hatred coming after their leader

What game made 2hu jump the grimshark?

Can anyone explain PoFV life mechanics to me? I don't understand what causes you to lose more lives is it just time based?

>>17395537
Yuyuko wants to revive nobodyknowswho (herself) out of boredom.
Suika turns into mist to make everyone party, then everyone has a party.
The moon has been kidnapped by aliens, are you bad enough shrine maiden to rescue the moon?
Komachi had a nap, flowers are blooming everywhere.
Aya photographs some touhous.
A certain god wants Reimu out of business so she can have every human follower to herself.
A celestial wants to get beat up.
A certain god gives a dumbass almost infinite power, said dummy tries to turn surface world into a really powerful generator.
Some people are trying to outsteal Marisa.
A certain god makes a big robot? (I don't know much after this point)
Aya makes a few more photos.
Cirno gets insulted or insults someone else, fairies declare a war. Nobody notices.
Some ancient girl wakes up.
HM happens, I have no idea what goes on there.
Biggie&Smalls make a "revolution".
Trolls gonna troll. Seija betrays her friend and antagonizes everyone, literally everyone. Even Youkai hunt her.
ULiL?
And then LoLK. I guess it was LoLK.

>>17395579
Yeah, generally it's time based. I don't remember the exact time tables, you'd have to check wiki for that, but it's like half a pip more every 30 seconds up to maximum of 3 orbs. So getting hit 3 minutes in takes 3 balls, getting hit 10 seconds later takes one half of a ball. Getting hit 10 minutes in still takes 3 dots.

>>17395776
ULiL: random loner from Japan becomes so loney she tries to make friends in different dimensions.

https://www.twitch tv/videos/162851042
Apparently history was made today and I missed it.
Throw a dot between twitch and tv.

>>17396088
>Touhou 15 Lunatic PERFECT (No Deaths, No Bombs, All Spells captured)
The absolute madman.

>>17396088

It must be nice being talented at touhou if you still care about playing it.

Is this piece of shit supposed to be fun? There are barely any patterns to dodge, the only difficulty comes from all those sudden bullshit moments that you have to memorize by heart, and some attacks don't even seem like they can be done without bombing. Coming from someone who 1CCed HRtP on every difficulty.

>>17397557
>Is this piece of shit supposed to be fun?
no

>>17396088
I saw that

>>17395537
So, who are you quoting?

Just gave a shot at SA, died at okuu's fixed star spell. Goddamn is this game unforgiving though. Debating if i should actually go for a UFO clear first.

Did a 4cc lunatic run with 3 credits spent on resurrection butterfly.
Feels pretty great, considering I didnt even have a Hard 1cc a month ago.

>>17399210
UFO is as difficult as SA, but getting lives is a lot easier.

Plus almost every shot type and bomb in the is good (MarisaB is the only one that sucks). So yeah, i think it is not a bad idea anon.

>>17399210
UFO is as difficult as SA, but getting lives is a lot easier.

Plus, almost every type shot and bomb in the game is good (MarisaB is the only bad character overall).

So yeah, it is not a bad idea anon.

>>17396088
3 months for lolk LNN in japan
2 years for lolk LNN outside japan
damn

>>17399570
I tried SA again, this time i put more effort into finding the times where i should bomb. I started going downhill against orin though, ended up losing against okuu's last spell. Guess ill just get some more clears on other games and then come back.

>>17396088
best 2hu player in the west?

>>17399210
>>17399570
I think SA is way harder, bombs do nothing and cripple your power, the stages and bosses are really tough and Orin is like a second final boss.
UFO showers you with resources, by stage 3 you can collect 8 bombs, ReimuA and MarisaA bomb does a fuckton of damage allowing you to skip entire spellcards (like Kogasa's last spell)

How drunk was ZUN while coding Reimu-C in SA?

>>17399866
Reimu C is fine though. Just plan your bombs.

>>17399785
Tried UFO, this is definitely too much for me right now. Orin might just be a pain in the ass, but shou is a literal bitch.

>>17399939
Oh yeah she is, in fact she was the reason I couldn't get my UFO 1cc and got me grinding the game for months till I got it. Her non spells are worse than her spellcards (kinda similar to Youmu) then Stage 4 and 5 themselves are a pain, playing them on practice mode helped me a lot.

>>17400027
>practice mode
You just reminded me that it's a thing, thanks. Gonna do that when i feel more like it though. Now im thinking i might get back to shoot the bullet, see what i can capture after all the time i haven't been playing then call it a day for today.
sorry for the blog tier post but it was to say ill practice the stages some other day

>>17399629
nigga if you made it so far you can do it already.

>>17396088
>He didn't miss PDH
Fuck that.

>>17399611
I thought first Lunatic LNN was achieved like the day after?

>>17399755
no thats the in extra player by a huge margin

>>17399755
yeeaah its not like there's players approaching 600mil in eosd, getting wrs in IN extra, getting MoF loony wrs, or dominating fairy wars.

lets all look at the one guy who decided to play an entire game for about 60 hours the least-risky way possible and not fuck up/get lucky on any remotely threatening part.

>>17399866
More like how drunk was ZUN while making SA? That whole game is fucked up for various reasons. Some of the shit in there just makes me scratch my head.

>>17402143
wtf it only took him 60 hours?

>>17402143
Jesus fuck the dude asked a question why the fuck are you this upset? Are you one of these people you named and mad that your video wasn't linked or something?
>approaching 600m
Isn't cactu in the 670s?
>60 hours
Source? Because that only makes it even more impressive. LoLK LNN isn't a pushover, otherwise there wouldn't be only 1 person in the west with it after 2 whole years.

>>17402800
He shows the hours on the vod after the LNN. 56 hours on 1.00b, 11 hours on the 1.00a copy.

>>17400520
Scoring and survival are separate methods of play, though the former mandates a good amount of skill in the latter. He may be a god at IN Ex, but called LoLK shit and uninstalled after gameovering on S1.

>>17402800
Makes a good point as well, if it were really """that easy""" then there'd be a lot more westies trying to inflate their achievement dick. Even just statistically, LoLK LNN is nuts.

>>17399611
except that guy only took 60 hours to do it, which is a lot faster than some jap players. the only reason it took 2 years is because he wasn't playing it until recently, it seems

>>17402827
>He may be a god at IN Ex, but called LoLK shit and uninstalled after gameovering on S1.
He has good taste then. I guess this proves wrong the people who say LoLK is hatef just because it's hard.
>Makes a good point as well, if it were really """that easy""" then there'd be a lot more westies trying to inflate their achievement dick.
Maybe the game is just not that fun?

>>17402879
>called LoLK shit and uninstalled after gameovering on S1.
> I guess this proves wrong the people who say LoLK is hatef just because it's hard.
If anything it proves them right. faggot gave up after failing stage 1, what a loser.

>>17402879
>he has good taste then
If you like touhou, you play all games

>>17402879
I may not like LoLK that much, but to quit after just the first stage just shows that you don\t really like the series that much.

>>17402888
You're literally retarded if you think someone that can WR IN ex gave up on lolk because it#s too hard.

>>17402980
they're completely different things, IN extra doesn't even require amazing survival. it's more about learning every single difficult scoring trick for one specific thing, which doesn't necessarily mean anything about skill in the other games

I will never understand on what basis you can get a level 4 attack randomly on pofv without actually having to use up all your gauge. That fucking bitch eiki getting 3 level 4 attacks in a row is just beyond me.

>>17403007
You should try read the manual man. It helps a lot.

>>17403001
Rings of death require pretty strong reading but that's about all, the rest of the stage's survival is pretty free. Most difficult thing in scoring is the fucking HMD supergraze. Ridiculous and horrifyingly tedious. 72 consecutive 2-frame taps, ugh.

>>17403001
Okay, calling you literally retarded was a bit unfair. You just don't realize how little you know, like most beginner level players. They don't have the slightest imagination of what scoring is like, while with survival they can kinda comprehend how good the player has too be.
Scoring is not about learning a bunch of tricks, the entire game is completely differen when you play for score. Btw just as an aside, he also got a bunch of LNBs before playing for score.

>>17403007
When you reach a certain score threshhold you get a free boss attack, that also cancels opponent boss attacks.

>>17403029
LNBs are irrelevant in this discussion. And no, the entire game isn't completely diiferent when you play for score. It's about learning the correct tricks, being consistent at them, and not fucking up the survival. IN extra survival is easy

>>17403051
You can stop pretending to know what you're talking about now.

>>17403064
When you stop being salty about your 500 hours learning IN extra scoring or whatever

Am I alone in thinking that GFW is really hard?

>>17403553
GFW extra is the hardest one in my opinion.

Western LoLK LNN only took so long because no one competent enough tried.

first b2 1cc

>>17403816
Everlasting was trying for quite some time as well, I don't know anyone more competent than him for difficult LNN's, he could eventually have gotten it as well I think.

>>17403864
With Reisen.

scoring is just memo lol obviously survival is more impressive

Anyone try playing with an arcade stick? How is it? I think that is what most eastern players use, no?

>>17404018
Few players use arcade stick, japanese players usually use pad or keyboard.
It is definitely possible though, some players have been successfull with stick.

Hey guys, I want to be Lunatic Player.
I only cleared normal so far, what do you guys think? Should I try to play hard first or directly practice lunatic difficulty? Thank you for advice.

>>17404157
It is definitely possible to go from normal directly to lunatic, but obviously it will take more practice than going from normal to hard.

>>17404157
I think it would be more enjoyable to do hard, then Lunatic.
Also I don't know what's with this term "Lunatic player", lunatic is the actual difficulty of the games

>>17404157
I personally did hard before going into lunatic, but nowadays I hear many people that immediately go into lunatic after normal and learn it pretty quickly as well.

If you want to quickly become a lunatic player you can probably just skip hard. You will just need some extra determination to learn Lunatic.

>>17404204
ZUN didn't mail you a Lunatic Player achievement badge after your first Lunatic clear?

>>17404290
n-no but one of the fairies told me I'm a super!!

>>17404297
wtf me too

>>17396088
Does he browse /jp/? Or any other lunatic madman with WRs and shit for that matter.

Can someone post the 1cc chart blank please?

>>17404468

>>17404476
ありがとうございます、アノンさん。

>>17403028
I swear Rings of death are fucking impossible

>>17404290
>>17404290
>You are Super Player!
Was in some PC-98 game when you beat Lunatic.

>>17404476
shouldn't ULiL have a slot for its Extra stage?

>>17405380
Dunno anon, I didn't make it nor play the fighters

new fan game
http://www.bulletforge.org/u/gore/p/dong-fang-tian-hua-lou-touhou-tenkarou-frantically-forbidden-fruitfull-version

>>17402143
okay jeez calm down sorry for asking

>>17406413
Don't feel too bad about that cretin's response. It's common knowledge that some scorers in the west get salty whenever a survival achievement gets praised more than score ones.
They were just trying to sate the ego of themself and their friends to make themselves feel better.

>>17406704
i'm shit xD

Post a different screenshot for the next thread OP

help im retarded

>>17408052
tfw no talent

>>17408064
tfw not jap

>>17406704
If you care about "achievements" and get salty about video views you wouldn't play for score anyway.

>>17408196
tfw shit

>>17408350
I don't think anyone here is getting salty about video views, though. Besides, caring about them is ridiculous anyhow.

>>17406704
>someone uploads a video of a lunatic MoF ReimuB WR which was 3-4 years in the making with probably hundreds of thousands of effort and heartbreak put in. gets 100 views. gets no comments.

>someone uploads a video of a burfegt survival run which took 60 hours and like a month of effort and gets almost 1000 views in only a few days. gets called a god and a superplayer.

I miss MaZe.

>>17408968
>3 years in the making
>actually like only 600 hrs of playtime by some talented pseudojap for a wr
>effort and heartbreak
>caring about how much views and attention and dicksuckery you get

score or don't even touch the games

>>17404641
you just dont have the minimum reading requirement yet

>>17408968
implying secondaries care about scoring, or even most bypassers that have a few normal 1ccs

probably the reason that video got so many views, of course they want to see the impossible game get beaten perfectly

>>17408968
It's annoying seeing amazing scoreruns get ignored, but many secondaries tend to not give a shit about them, so it's really no surprise.

Reminder that Gobou and Amana got thousands of likes and retweets on their LoLK LNNs because 'zomg the impossible game was perfected'. Same case for Yats, as well.

>>17407834
What do you mean? no IN Extra clear? last thread had a DDC screenshot.

>>17408968
If this bothers you so much then why not just shit out some LNNs for free views, if attention and affirmation that people care about your effort means so much to you? Only takes 60 hours dude, must be trivial as fuck for score players.

>>17409102
you literally copied my post you piece of shit

>>17409134
fite me punk

>>17409111
2 threads ago it had that screenshot again

>>17409357
Would a webm be fine?
If I get to do next thread, that is

>>17409378
Whatever makes any next OP message not a complete clone of that of an older thread

>>17409025
me too

>>17409119
Only takes 60 hours if you're a fucking alien*

>>17409884
Yats was born talented.

>>17408968
fuck off mof is easy

>>17410253
especially when the person with two WORLD RECORDS in it calls it easy (^:

>>17408968
Nobody will ever, EVER care about scoretism except for you and your ilk. How does it feel?

MOKOU IS NOT A GOOD GIRL AT ALL

Damn, and I thought it's just a meme.

By the way, why did it said that I cleared 8# %? Shouldn't it be, like, 99.99%?
Or is it like that because last spells are counted too?

>>17411042
post ur scores m8

>>17411681
D-do you think I have talent, senpai?

>>17411946
Damn, that's a better score than mine

>>17411946
look at this talented jap
i bet it feels good to have superior genes

What matters most is if you enjoy the game

haha

>>17412337