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>>17137713
I have to admire your dedication making these OP image collage... things.

i need confusion immunity guys help

>>17137777
There's a number of artifacts that grant it, and it is often generated on randarts and rings/amulets. I'm currently getting it from the Blood Moon mace. Nice quads

>>17137773
>OP image collage... things.
They're called "/vg/ style general thread OP images"

Anything parituclarly valuable I should steal from Palmia when I nuke it? I already have 3 happy beds and multiple royal beds so I don't need the nice bed.

>>17137902
Steal Mia, she doesn't deserve that fate

>>17138003
If that's the crazy cat chick I already killed her, ate her and put her leftovers in a museum

>>17138015
You...you monster!

When creating a new character I get to choose a notable skill.
Does this allow me to learn a skill I dont normally start with? I want to get pickpocket so that I wont have to go thief's guild at all.

Thanks again for those that helped last thread, I ended up stumbling across the holy well and got most of my potentials up to great. Been keeping them there with all the tips I got. Charisma was there too but I blew it all after I got so many levels in investment.

Also, went on a modding spree and updated that shit to the latest version. Kind of a pain since every time I think I fixed everything some graphics will be missing. I also found out that I'm so used to the original icons parsing piles of loot is way slower. Looks way better though.

>>17138090
Cute character, cute party, cute interface

>>17138073
Tested it, I indeed pickup the unknown skill.

>>17138090
Could you share your full mod, anon?

What's the best use for my rods of alchemy? I've tons of them.

>>17138073
Yeah it does. It's how I gave my tourist tactics since he doesn't really start with anything.

Protip: Keep a whistle in your inventory and hotkey it. When an NPC you need to talk to is sleeping, wake them by blowing it. If you are within line of sight there's a chance they'll get mad and attack you for waking them up, but the whistle works in a large radius so you can just step around the corner, blow it, and walk up to the startled NPC like nothing happened.

>>17138199
I must've used it at least a hundred times, and haven't been attacked once. Has anyone actually ever been attacked, or is it just really low chance?

I died in the world map in some ass corner of the snow territory near Noyel and lost a chunk of money and a bit of treasure map loot, it's gone forever right?

What's the best way to train weight lifting early game? Just hold rest in town or should I try to multitask and mine at the same time or something?

>>17138232
I have been multiple times, I wouldn't warn you otherwise. But it's possible that the chance is pretty low or maybe you have to be right next to the NPC to have it happen.

>>17138199
I wouldn't rlly say wasitng an inv slot on avoiding 1 karma penalties is a pro tip.

>>17138243
By just dumping plat in it and playing the game.

>>17138114
I forgot to include my little girl so I'll devote her stats screen as a picture. I need to work on her a little more since I've been neglecting her equipment. She's been sitting on a living weapon for a while now ready to level. My cute little fighter and tank.

>>17138120
Sure, I throw something together.

>>17138232

I've definitely been attacked before, but it was years ago and in vanilla.

>>17138259
Darn, a whole inventory slot out of ~180 slots

>>17138300

You say that like it's a lot.

>>17138308
That's because it is quite a lot. If consumables didn't stack, it would be a different story.

>>17138120
Here you are, go nuts.
https://mega.nz/#!gi5FnJLS!EDIJQijplm0xif70uh_8sB5ht0B6gxCsMh0NIbHssKI

>>17138300
Darn, a whole -1 karma out of basically infinite if you do quests.

>>17138259
>>17138445
The karma isn't even an issue, not sure why you brought it up. The point is the inconvenience of killing an NPC you wanted to talk to and needing to wait for them to respawn.

>>17138472

>The point is the inconvenience of killing an NPC you wanted to talk to and needing to wait for them to respawn.

I knew you could accidentally kill NPCs by squeezing, but is it actually possible to kill with a single wake up bash if you're strong enough?

Anyway, you can always use performing or preaching or something to wake them up instead.

>>17138472
>The point is the inconvenience of killing an NPC you wanted to talk to and needing to wait for them to respawn.
srry I can't relate to being this swole

>>17138488
Reminds me of the guy who was killed by his little girl bashing him when he was choking on a mochi

>>17138372
Thanks!

>>17137902
steal the fruit trees

do the special attributes gained by using garrok's hammer to reroll an artifact count toward the attribute limit?
also, does to throw an absolute piecing attack affect ranged and melee? does it need to be on an item equipped in a ranged/ammo slot to affect ranged? I noticed garrok's adds it to belts.

>>17138869
I was messing around with a few ideas like that. I tried putting three spears on my character, duel wield and one in the throw slot, but I didn't really notice anything different. Then again maybe it was because I didn't have any training for that and always missed anyway.

So since you can't shit seeds like crazy anymore after 1.67fix, what's the go-to attribute farming method now?

>>17139009

Yes you can. Get 10 kumiromi statues and lower your speed and just walk back and forth on the world map.

>>17139024
I have the fetter but I have no idea where to get those statues, they're just random spawns aren't they?

So I seem to be stuck. My crypt of the damned has no stairs down. At all. I even picked everything up and broke all the walls with houzenha or however you spell that to make sure.

Any way to like make a hole in the floor?

>>17139057

It's from a quest in south tyris. Make duplicates with the little girl quest.

how do i play if i dont have a numpad? Im using a T420

I downloaded the current Elona+ Custom (1.86) from the pastebin and midway through extracting the files it asked for a password. Does anyone know what it is?

Seems my steak from cattle sells for slightly better than my steaks from sheep. Only about a 407 gold difference though. How much gold food can sell for can vary widely between rank. A +13 sheep skewer at rank 5 sells for much less than a +13 sheep steak at rank 9.

Cattle is lv 8 with a breed power of 214. Wild Sheep is lv 1 with a breed power of 952

>>17138869
Garok's hammer doesn't reroll artifacts anymore. It can't be used on miracle, godly, or static artifacts either. It can only be used on regular equipment. Like most of the stuff you find on sale at the blacksmith. Garok's hammer will take regular equipment and make it miracle grade while applying the special attribute to it. Even though it's made miracle grade no other attributes but the one you get from the hammer is gained. Since mundane equipment usually don't have anything on them and Garok's hammer only adds one special attribute to them, they're pretty good candidates for artifact fusion as they're blank slates to fill up with stuff.

Absolute pierce can be used for both melee and range. You know when you proc it because it will say vopal/vorpal in the logs. You don't need absolute pierce to be on the actual weapon, or lack there of in the case of martial arts, to make use of the absolute pierce. It can be on any piece of equipment to make use of it. For instance, the god breaker axe has absolute pierce and I have that equipped in my shoot slot. When I go to punch enemies with my bare fists my fists sometimes get the effects of absolute pierce as indicated by a mention of vopal in the logs.

>>17139479
You use the direction keys to move instead. Keys can be further configured in config.txt if needed as well.

>>17139479
good enough that i do have a num pad and dont use it. i just press up and right at the same time for example for diagonal.

>>17139530
>It can be on any piece of equipment to make use of it. For instance, the god breaker axe has absolute pierce and I have that equipped in my shoot slot. When I go to punch enemies with my bare fists my fists sometimes get the effects of absolute pierce as indicated by a mention of vopal in the logs.
Does this apply to any other abilities like that? I know from experience it doesn't work with stop time.

Just got my second wish. I used the first for a 7 leagues boot, what should I use this one on?

Please respond.

>>17139619
Happy bed

>>17139607
It's best to handle how certain equipment attributes/enchants proc based on a case by case basis. Another enchant that can be on any piece of equipment and proc through attacking is proximity assist or interlocking shooting mechanism. Deals x element damage or invokes are usually tied to the weapon itself and you must use said weapon to take advantage of them.

>>17139630
Noice! Thanks anon!

>>17139619
miromi
Death
evolution
happy bed
aurora ring
vindale cloak

>>17139642
It may not seem cool or anything, but because sleeping on it every night will give you high potential increase, in the long run it is a huge benefit

>>17137713
I have no idea of what this is but this OP pic made me lose my shit. Maybe I should try this.

>>17139678
That green hair girl is Younger Sister. She's pretty much the Elona mascot/meme character.

>>17137713
Good job OP.

>>17139671
Does blessing it give better results after sleeping?

>>17139678
Same, anon. Came for the memes, stayed for the gameplay.

>>17139719
Nope, does not affect your sleep.

>>17139530
was there ever a version where the garok's would turn an item miracle or godly but not give it those special attributes and is that version 1.66? that's really fucking asshole of him to force an attribute we might not want on what is otherwise a fully customizable piece of gear

>>17137713
Great job, OP.

>>17139062
Try reinitializing the floor. Not sure if you can do that in dungeons though.

>>17139918
Beforehand it added random attributes which could be bad or even negatives. Now it adds fixed, good attributes with high potency.

>force an attribute we might not want on what is otherwise a fully customizable piece of gear
What do you mean with that? I don't understand what you're talking about.

>>17139918
Prior to 1.68 Garok's hammer could be used on miracle and godly, not artifact, to put random attributes on a piece of equipment. The problem was that even though you had a chance for something good, most of the time you got absolute garbage from it. Note that random attributes could also be negative attributes and magnitudes of enchant values were all over the place. At a cost of 94 medals prior to 1.68, I and others felt the hammer was a huge waste of small medals especially in light of the other things you could buy. Plenty of times people bought the hammer, used the hammer, and ended up with a weapon that wasn't much better than what they had before or in some cases, was worst.

The hammer we now have I'm actually happy with. Even though you get only one enchant, all of them are actually useful imo and their magnitude is decent. The hammer small medal cost also went down. The fact that you can turn a bare bone weapons into a miracle weapon with just one enchant that's actually useful I feel sets up artifact fusion nicely. My only real gripe with the hammer is that I'm not sure you can get godly with it but miracle is alright I guess. Still a decent amount of space to put stuff on. The fact that you can put chance for extra melee attack on the weapons is a godsend for pets as well due to the limited number of static artifacts with it the enchant to go around.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Garok%27s_hammer

>>17137713
I actually want some Recette sprites now so that I pimp out my shop keep.

>>17139918
Not that I know of. Garok's hammer as far as I remember always added something. That something in the past could be something you wanted or something you really didn't want. At least now whatever is added is generally good.

Martial-Arts-using pets won't gain the special actions when leveling, right?
So you have to teach them the abilities yourself? Assuming Elona Custom.

>>17140135
I just had my pet buy tactical martial arts and tactical attack from Leold for AP. Tactical martial arts gives the pet attribute, bakuretuken, and clear mind while tactical attack gives the pet shadow step. Then all I had to do was just configure her AI to use some of the abilities. I have my pet self buffing herself with attribute and clear mind, then she starts looking for something to kill, once in range she shadow steps to close the gap, and finally she starts ripping out organs.

>>17140161
Oh, right, the AP sets. I forgot about those.
That should do it.

The new harpy sprite is cute, I can't get enough of em. Ranches packed, making money with harpy milk!

>>17139967
For example, I don't want any attribute points wasted on extra melee attack because I'm a gunner/pinch support caster, my right hand is a resist stick. I suppose I could put a pistol in my hand though. If I were a pure gunner and wore a shield I certainly wouldn't want proximity assist. It's almost totally customizable, it's not perfect but it easily could have been. I'd rather have a totally blank miracle piece of gear and fusion in only the attributes I want.
>>17139968
my understanding of item nomenclature is
item = (normal) item
servants', of fire, etc... = affixed item
<miracle artifact>
{godly artifact}
it is precious = precious/unique artifact

>>17140314
He made the hammer not useless and you're still complaining that it isn't absolutely perfect?

>>17140314
Wouldn't mind an item that makes a normal item miracle or godly without anything added like you want but that item doesn't exist and has never existed. Maybe make a suggestion on the Japanese wiki for one. But for all intents and purposes, the changes to the hammer did nothing to reduce your options for customizable gear so I don't know why you're angry with Ano.

>>17140340
Smokeweedeverydaygodkumiromi.png

>>17140355
because he put in a feature that gets me tantalizingly close to exactly what I want but doesn't let me get there and I'm disappointed

Wow, I feel kind of dumb. I was looking for a spell book for the magic dart spell for like 2 days now. Now I realize that it's just called magic arrow that I've been selling this entire time. With that out of the way I can finally start on the long road of creating my harpy pet wizard.

Woohoo, on to Lost Irva now.

I'm surprised I was able to win against the super regen in the end, but I suppose the magic of crits pulled me through.

I want to use this thing so fucking bad.

>>17140712
You might be in for a bad time, anon. Beating Rehmido gives all enemies in the game the ability to use gauge attacks and your stats are really low, way too low to even set foot into the Cradle of Chaos unless you're being carried hard by your pets.

>>17140773
Neat, I don't think I've ever seen IBAE as a generic weapon attribute.

>>17140816
It's quite rare, but it happens. I've got about half a dozen IBAE randartss in storage for ragnarok grinding across my different characters.
That is my first time seeing IBAE on a living weapon, though.

How is this even possible. A literal skeltal

>>17141199
You can have zero weight, I wonder if you can have zero height too.

Whats the hard on with living weapons? The stats look like they suck at first glance compared to static artifacts? I really don't know much about them...

Do people use them as resist sticks or what?

>>17140712
CON
GRA
TU
RA
TION

>>17140538
>Harpy wizard
Neat. But there are no animated custom harpy sprites my dude, believe me I've looked. Yesterday I was fiddling around trying to make one but the sprites are kind of small for flapping wings. You'll notice that most of the pccs that do have wings either have them really tiny, vertical, or folded up and almost not moving. Pic related was my garbage test attempt, has artifacts and shit in-game so unusable. Next I'll try to modify an existing sprite.

Anything I should do before finishing part 1 of story? Like any NPC's I can only get cards from now?

>>17141648
Set up a ranch of something you want because it will fill up with the timeskip.

>>17141648
This >>17141655, make it multiple ranches. Also after the timeskip you can no longer get gwen the innocent, so if you wanted to astral light pen her and evolve her, now is your only chance.

>>17137713

Sorry if this is a commonly asked question but I didn't find it in the pastebin. Is every one else in this thread playing elona+? I'm new to the game and I'm hoping to start with the game where I can have a lot of content and people to consult when there's a difficult part.

>>17141816
There's practically zero reason to not be playing elona+, so I'm reasonably sure we all do.

>>17141816
Yeah, everyone here plays E+ because vanilla stopped development years ago. A lot in addition play Custom, which just translates new E+ text and adds some QOL features, but you can freely change from E+ to Custom+ and back without messing up your save.

So the first step for you would be to get the latest E+, and then decide if you want to use Custom.

Ok. So I just wanted to get opinions on how I should proceed.

I just started and a new tourist character and decided to do what everyone suggests and just do farming quests in vernis.

I wasn't able to get close to finishing any of them, but was fine with that and just used them to try and train up my little girl on low level mobs as well as myself, throwing chestnuts at problem enemies like hermit crabs and bats.

Thing is my little girl decided to drown herself in the town well.

I only have 62 gold to my name so I can't revive her, and I have no equipment except my sword.

Since all the fetch quests are spellbooks at the moment should I try and kill time until the harvest quests reappear in vernis? Should I risk trying to get to yowyn?

>>17142066
You should've get to Yowyn at start, because it tends to have much more harvesting quests than other towns. You can also learn gardening there, so... risk it, anon.

>>17142066
What items do you have? If you managed to get a rod or two, especially magic missile, you could survive some combat.

>>17142066
just go to yowin and do harvest quests. live for long enough and youll get free money in your house from the goverment
you just got in at a good time since plat gives double potential. its supposed to also go down faster but its not really noticeable. i have tons of plat i dont even bother using

i dont get why the fuck you started with tourtist if your new. its literally just a worse start than anything else

>>17142076
Currently I have some rations, 2 chestnust, a stone, and a claymore. Basically my entire inventory.

>>17142108
Oh no, this isn't my first character. I started playing on and off forever ago, I just wanted suggestions because it has literally been years since I started a new character.

Chose tourist because I wanted to have a little bit of a rougher start. Guess I got what I wanted, but it is fun trying to figure things out again.

>>17142066
On my last non-reincarnated character, I grinded Escort, Beauty and the beast, Before it's too late etc. and would not stop drinking fountains until I got my boots. I did that until lucky day when I won like five cure corruption potions and traded that shit for good equipment. By that point I had close to half a million pesos so I bought a shop (also house) and started grinding dungeons for shop loot.

Harvest quests are only good for platinum and seeds. Not my choice for good start.

Really wish there was a box above your character sprite that told you what you are standing on instead of having to look in the (horrible) chat log every 2 seconds

>>17142120
If you got a scroll of oracle your problems would be solved, but you'll very likely die to the first kobold/wizard of elea/boar/warrior/gunner/hungry ghost you encounter. Yeah I'd say go to Yowyn.

Hmmm.... I've been using Kuromini's Scythe almost all game. After getting comparable seeming weps (stuff with <> in the name) and comparing stats... Kuromini's seems like a really weak wep. If I'm understanding it right it does 1-38 damage. That's really low lows and not that high highs.
Yet its stomped everything anyways. Is it stronger than it seems or is the game kinda just really easy in part 1?

how come if breakfat is 10% to all attributes and bless pot is 20% breakfest struggles to get out above good even in somewhere like nowel where it can be spammed but pot instantly gets most things to superb?

>>17142211
Well it depends on what you've been doing. You can still do high level dungeons in act 1, so the game can be as hard as you'd like. Your weapon damage is influenced and multiplied by your stats and skills, so you could beat strong enemies with a cloth mace.

The scythe has pretty good stats, but there are artifacts with higher damage potentials. However if your skill with it is high, you might as well keep using the scythe instead of changing weapon type.

>>17142290
Bless pot is 100% now, anon.

Any advice for Zerome as a melee character who does not use pets? All the info I can find assumes I'm playing some ranged dude or hiding behind an army.
Could be that I simply need to grind more to beat him with this playstyle but I think I'm fairly high leveled at 35.

I can pretty easily get him to about 30% HP but then he just spam fuck summons an entire armies, heals himself and spams sleep.
My current goal is to get sleep immunity which I've never seen so far but he still pretty much just outlasts me.

His summons aren't too big a deal since I have fairly high leveled AoE magic and he himself also uses the same kind of magic to kill them

Any way to get rid of these negative equipment modifers?

The random teleports specifcially... the item is blessed so that means they aren't part of a curse, right?

>>17142345
Actually nevermind I got a lucky timestop when he was nearly dead preventing him from doing his random half my HP scythe attack by killing him

>>17142379
No, but you can prevent those random teleports by equipping an item that has the prevents teleport attribute. Not that rare on rings and amulets, can get it on a randart too.

>>17142400
A winrar is you

Whats the benefit of adding +1 to a weapon? Does it affect hit rating or min damage? Am thinking of using a sniper rifle but the low minimum damage triggers me.

>>17142417
Enchantment doesn't add to the die roll, but adds damage to the final result. So you get the number you rolled with the sniper rifle's dice, +what you rolled with the ammo, +the extra damage of both, +the enchantment value, and that's your final number. That then is multiplied by your stats/skills and weighed against the enemy's defense.

Are rods of Alchemy still worth a shit in Elona+?

>>17142529
sure, I sell them all the time :^)

>>17141581

Hey Kai, I'd love to see an hour or two of you grinding shit out in video format if you're up for it.

Probably easier to learn new things watching others play than it is the hardway of crunching wiki and FAQs.

>>17142651
fucking scat fetishists

So I got like 5 flying scrolls I've been saving up but I'm not sure what I should use them on. I was thinking either a Happy Bed or a Grand Piano but I can't really decide. The other option is to use it on the <Claymore> artifact so I can duel wield it. Are those good choices or should I use them one something better?

>>17142651

I had a beggar as a guest in my house, killed him because I wanted to recruit a servant but it still says I have 7 out of 7 people in my house...

Does this go away or am I fucked out of a slot forever?

>>17142867
Try leaving your home and entering again.

>>17142656
Once I complete my goal with my character, retire him, and maybe after some time passes I'll consider it. Might do a casual lets play or some sort of tutorial video series. No promises though.

>>17142665
Use it on whatever you feel like. There is only one group of items that requires a significant stash of flying scrolls and those are inner god weapons. If you're not planning on becoming a godslayer you don't have to worry about that though.

>>17143002
I'm probably not killing gods anytime soon so I'll just go with the piano. Since I'm usually low on money it should help a bit in performances.

How do I unload my 900 or so stacks of assorted skins and milk? Even the inn keepers are way too poor no matter how much I invest.

>>17143141
Dump the milk in your shop, carry the skins and just dump them as fast as you can into every vendor. It might take a while, but they're light enough.

>>17143141
You still drowning in milk? Maybe fill a pool with it and start a younger sister swimming team.

I think the advice you got about inns referred to changing your shop type to inn, which only sells containers and potions. So build one or two shops next to the ranch purely to turn into milk inns. You'll gain a 3x price modifier.

>>17143250
I was the guy who asked what to do before beating part 1. I did the slaughter of my ranches and all that jazz.
Problem is I play without using pets for anything other than breakfest and ensemble so I have a lot of ranches, all with bunnies in them. I have 8 ranches left to kill and 900 stacks of skin and milk each.

>>17143151
Tha's what I've been doing. Its sooo slow.

>>17143273
My bad, I confused you for a guy who had the same issue. Since you play without pets though, you have more free slots for shops. I can't offer any advice other than maybe going on a round trip to all the towns, or say buying expensive items at the souvenir vendor/black market and getting the money back with your skins and milk.

>>17143141
>milk
Coming in 1.69:
* Added 3 new items that can be made from milk in item fusion.

>>17143343
>expensive items at the souvenir vendor/black
This is a good idea maybe but from what I've seen all the expensive items are only relevant to people who use pets. Evo items and the like.

>>17143346
Nice.

Also is there any fast way to get between the continents other than scrolls of return? (which shops are being nasty and not stocking)
I liked making comfy trips to my house to do farming and slaughter and stuff then shop then towns for quests. With my house being an entirely other continent its no longer comfy.
I suppose I could buy a new deed of everything and move them to south Tyris if I no longer really need to go north but I like north Tyris its comfy

>>17143141
Almost all of the vendors in my world are at least shop level 1000 or higher. Mainly to cap out their inventory size, make them sell the rarer stuff, and level up investing/charisma, but it also has increased the gold they normally have on hand. My magic vendor in Vernis has a shop rank of 8561 and she has 3.3 million gold on hand to give me for the stuff I sell. The magic vendors in my home are shop rank 20,000+ and each one has 10 million gold on them. The richest man in my world isn't as invested as high as my house vendors but carries 85 million gold on him. The spell writer got insanely rich from all the oracle spellbooks I bought from him in the past.

Might be having a difficult time unloading your stuff at the moment but if you keep investing in vendors and selling stuff, they should eventually have a sizeable gold pool to make the unloading of large volumes of goods easier in the future. The same goes for pet run shops. As pets become better sellers and your shop rank increases, it becomes easier to sell large volumes of goods.

>summon silver cat in house
>go to get rod of domi
>all my rods were apparently erased from existence when i upgraded my house. also had a rod of wishing which is gone
>leave, buy one with medals, come back
>cat has gone

kind of annoying. no idea what happened to the cat, too. its not an aggresive npc so no one should have killed it

>>17143440
You can craft scrolls of return m8, jeweler skill with the gem cutter. If you haven't yet, you really should get into crafting. Tons of useful stuff and if you're lucky you can make extremely good equipment.

>>17143492
This should not have happened, when you build a new house all your old stuff should be lying neatly in a pile in the middle of it. Neutrals also usually stay where they are. Maybe you missed them? The cat might have killed itself by drinking a bottle of sulfuric or the like. My maid does that every once in a while.

>>17143568
nah the pile is just missing all my rods. also my small medals which forced me to go to wiki to look up where the town ones are, get those then get the rod of domi. which means i was away from my place for quite a while so cat coulda done anything

>>17143553
I know. Not found many of the mats to make those. I mostly get mats to make a ton of woodwork items

Any way which doesn't require RNG to like me. If not I'll just buy way more return scrolls than I need when I can my money may aswell be infinite for crap that cheap anyways

>>17143617
Man that sounds like a stroke of bad luck with gathering, I find a lot of those. Then again I also buy stacks of scrolls of gain material from the magic/goods vendors, bless them when I have a big pile, and binge read them.

Decent number of tails from the little time skip then killing all the bunnies. The 3 years only gave about 3 times as many bunnies as you get in like 2 weeks it felt like so this does really feel like a nice bonus. Also got a potion of speed from a performer that spawned in a rabbit pen.

Question though. What exactly is the money sink in this beyond upgrading shops to sell stuff to make more money? Like I already own the palace, a shop, museum and my magic shops are high enough I can easily get potential pots consistently and those are cheap too. Everything is compared to my income.

>>17143718
Pretty nice.
Meanwhile on my ranch:
>try to breed ice ent to improve cold resistance of my team
>month passes
>nothing
I'm switching to rabbits, I always can use more luck.


>What exactly is the money sink in this
Go to larna, see souvenir vendor. They sell overpriced shit, some of which is very rare and isn't sold anywhere else (for example: scrolls of growth, "base" cost - 7 million gold).

Does performance give a decent amount of plat coins at high levels? Getting plat to up my skills feels really slow and I made a spellsword so I feel like I need a lot of different skills.

>>17143763
The real draw of party time quests is music tickets, which provide arbitrary amounts of Life and Mana upgrades.

was thinking about turning a rabbit from my ranch into a red eyes white rabbit, but it needs 200 stamina to use Time Stop

>>17143718
Scrolls of growth, evolution hearts, upgrading all you and your pets equipment to +10 at the blacksmith, the most expensive equipment at the black market goes for over a million, and sometimes buying them is worth it. Then there's the doujou, upgrading your house and buying deeds, you already named investing...that's about all I can think of. I'm making millions yet always feel short of cash.

Investing is a huge part of it, there are items you need to spend a lot of money investing in shops before you start seeing them on the regular.

>>17143758
Sleeping ruins don't resists anyways don't it? Although with pots of potential being so cheap and easy to bless turning off sleep effects with equips could maybe be worth it.
Apparently scrolls of growth can cover what platinum does once it stops being super easy to get way more than I need.

>>17143794
Ayy scrolls of growth it seems is the thing to go for, thanks. Probably to just dump it a corner to never use.
I don't use pets so evo stuff is useless and upgrading won't be as expensive for me.
Maybe there'll be other nice stuff in souvenier shops sometimes too

>>17143817
If you're good at throwing and reach 50 investing, you can also use Golden Storm to literally throw money at your enemies.

>>17143844
I have been using throwing as my main method of ranged damage so I should be. That's a really good idea if the damage is higher than thrown weps. Feels like money was balanced on the assumption I'd be using pets otherwise.

Also, is the Necromantis any good? Was looking for the Souvenier vendors and ran into a guy trading tickets for this and other stuff. Wiki makes it sound fun maybe not 7000 tickets worth

>>17143763
Even the highest levels of party time quests only give one platinum. If you want platinum challenge and panic job board quests are where it's at. They can award up to 10 platinum per quest. If you can do the other job board quests real fast though it still might be worthwhile.

>>17143763
Panic and challenge quests are the only ones which give plat worth a damn. Party is for cash, rocks to please gods and equips can be decent.
Since you are unlikely to get access to panic or challenge into well into the second area of the game (or I didn't get them in north Tyris) I'd suggest going with the wealth goddess for now. The pet I didn't use but the 10 extra platinum per month is a really nice bonus early on and never really stops being worth using

>>17143925
I've gotten panic and challenge quests long before hitting the second continent, whether you get any is dependent on your fame. Just be careful to not pick quests you can't complete or you'll lose quite a lot.

>>17143948
Oh. Well I'd still rec her because she's the best god

I created my first cutie!

I've an Etrian Odyssey music pack here for all of the actual orchestrated soundtracks+super arranges here.

Just plop 'em into your user/music folder, and all should be good.

https://mega.nz/#!e8NGUCZI!A2TnW6rOhhdab2v5OlXpFR221JrChKGV3SDJHQpeCtM

Juere tourist anon here. Wanted to say thanks again for the advice.

Turns out I didn't notice I was one day away from the 15th.

Got paid enough to revive my little girl, then buy a cheap glass pair of shoes and cloak to speed myself up in vernis.

Made it to Yowyn without a hitch and am actually starting to get platinum.

I was a bit curious. Should I avoid using chestnuts anymore? They seem to be the easiest way to kill bats at the moment for me considering I don't have two hand skill yet, but I don't want to lose count and summon the chestnut giant to my level 3 character...

>>17144120
If you get a feat available, I've found the string manipulation perk makes high evasion low hp enemies like bats a joke early on. Up to you if it's worth the point, though.

>>17144067
"Yeah, pretty cute," AP confirms. What race did you go with?

>>17144120
just eat them. if you miss the bat just hit it again or hold f until it dies. your little girl should easily kill them all for you. you can also just zap with a rod for easy training of magic device or if you have the sleeping touch i dont think that can miss them and i dont think you can miss sleeping enemies but tbqh too much effort when your little girl will kill them
also i had 50 2 hand skill before switching to duel wielding and i still missed bats multiple times in a row pretty often the acc bonus is trash unless you mount (at which point it just makes your acc acceptable)

So I was lucky enough to have a quickling spawn in my ranch, how do I safely reduce its HP? I have knockout but it misses constantly because the thing has insane evasion. All of my spells destroy it instantly as well. Any suggestions?

>>17139575
>>17139553
i mean like is there any recommended way to do hot keys?

>>17144140
Hot keys don't use the numpad. They use the number row. Then there are short cut keys for actions and that just uses the qwerty keyboard. like shift r to rest.

>>17144138
Gather static medals and buy a rod of domination.

>>17144157
I somehow managed to get two knockout hits in and monsterballed it, currently destroying everything with a railgun equipped quickling.

I've been trying to get E+C to work but I get an error once I finish making my char looked around and couldn't find any info on it. Any Ideas?

>>17144190
win 7 compat

>>17144193
Worked thanks alot!

Is there a limit to how many shops/ranches you can have?

>>17144404
Likely limited by the max number of pets you can have. Isn't it like 15?

What is the usage of the proper usage of the oracle spell?

Cast once before entering to clear new artifact gen list, get to bottom, oracale and see if something has spawned?

Lads, how do I get fat?

>>17144549
Blend Livestock feed with a pot of fusion and go nuts.
If you use high enough +valued monster parts you can get absurdly overweight in nearly no time.

I'm not the only one abusing the Teach Words option, am I?

>>17144488
I cast it before I leave a map (bottom dungeon level, party room, etc) to see if anything spawned that I need to go get before I escape/return/walk out and the map clears.

Just read the changelog for 67-68, and i have questions :
--Does the ini reset, though not lowering values below 50, still take current values if lower ?
As in, 4 strength would count as a 4 for the ini recalculation, not 50 ?
--Does base life/mana is used for ini recalculation, or current values ?
--Have the formula for the bonus exp been discovered ?
--Is there a way to lower mana ?
--Is there a way to lower speed that do not involve cursed hermes potions ?

>>17144828
I find it easier just making a talk file

>>17144087
Neat.

First death ever, lost the little girl to a bunch of bandits led by a rogue boss. They asked me for about 2k but I was too stubborn to part with it. Thought I could take her by just sitting back and shooting but there were way too many minions and when she got to me I got gutted in 1 hit.

The music is really comfy.

>>17145404
This is why you need tele scrolls/spells

>>17145404
wow, you allowed a bunch of thugs to get their way with your little girl? I don't think she'll be satisfied with you any longer.

>>17145442

I just found out about pet resurrection a while ago, but I'll just go and buy a new one.

>Darkness: ####+
>still get blinded by anything using dark breath
>haven't found any items that give blind immunity that I can use without losing some other critical resistance or immunity
can I conquer Rehmido like this? I don't see a way forward without artifact fusion, but I don't know if I'm strong enough to finish act 2

>Keep hearing about people having difficulties with Rogue gangs
I'd kill them all for you if I could, I'm up to 27 gang exterminations.

>>17145581
lvl120 dungeons are possible but sometimes kill me
what can I expect in Rehmido?

>>17145581
>>17145593
It's not resist stacking, but the way I've done things is I hoard artifacts with lots of immunities on them and spread those out between my allies.
They and my PC are essentially immune to all status effects from immunities granted that way between all equipment.
The immunity grants you can get this way are:
Sleep, Paralysis, Poison, Blind, Fear, Mutation, Confusion, Aliens/Pregnant, Traps (Float). These are all immunites that can be granted from common artifacts.
There may be more, but I've not seen those yet.
There are of course other things to take into consideration like invisible foes, extra attacks, etc.
Keep in mind I've not bothered with act 2 yet and I've also got 300s in my/pet stats, but I've always overgrinded in these things.

Hello there Elona folks,

Apologies for a bit of an off-topic post but I'm here on behalf of the /jp/ soccer team for 4chan cup, where boards are represented as teams. (See the image as an example).

We were interested in finding something to represent Elona on the team and were hoping you guys could give us an idea of what would be best. Could be a character or a meme or whatever.

Here's a link to to the team page where you can find out more and see current rep examples: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//jp/

Again sorry for the intrusion, have a nice day.

>>17145615
Ｉ　ｖｏｔｅ　ｆｏｒ　ａ　ｌｉｔｔｌｅ　ｇｉｒｌ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｓｈｅｎａ’ｓ　ｐａｎｔｙ　ｏｎ　ｈｅｒ　ｈｅａｄ．

>>17145615
Just use a younger sister.

>>17145615
Younger Sister (picture I just posted) would be a good candidate probably.

>>17145645
Little girl is also a good idea.

>t. younger sister fanclub
I'm ok with this

>>17145404
Don't be discouraged by the early death my man, just pretend your PC got knocked unconscious and whatever stuff you lost is what the thugs took. Beats the idea of literally rising from your grave to crawl back to the cave.

>>17145673
they make pretty good meals

>>17145682

>>17145688

>>17145615
the younger sister is the mascot sorta
if you want an elona related logo for a uniform/pin/badge I think putits would do, they're like harmless dopey slimes without any of the toughness the dq ones have

>>17145404
>abandoning her to death
you monster
also, dead pets count toward your party size limit, just ask a bar tender to revive her

>>17145786
Yea he should be a good man and put her in a ranch so her children can go help that nice man in Derphy or can help the poor unwashed masses eat.

>>17145778
>harmless dopey slimes
Putit basement was my first death. It was horrible. There is no more evil creature than a putit I'm sure of it. They ripped little girl to shreads with no remorse.

>>17145808
Kinda hot...

>>17145615
Little girl or younger sister are by far your best bets. But as backup options you could use some of the popular gods, like Kumiromi or Ehekatl, or maybe Gwen the Innocent.

This fucking blackjack mini game is bullshit. The dealer is always pulling out 21's like it's nothing I can barely get enough wins for potions of cure corruptions. Having +800 luck doesn't help me cheat enough to win.

>>17145936
Hit on 16 or less, stay on 17 or more. If you have an ace you can hit on 17-19. Also keep an eye on dealer. If dealer has 5 + blind then he can only get to 16. If his hand makes something like 17 or more, and he still has blinds then he will likely go over 21. I can pull 3-6 pots per 10 chips on lucky days. Also never cheat on streaks.

>>17145936
>can't even win with cheating
ha, what a loser. git gud!

>>17145979
I got 14 out of 40 plays so I guess it could be worse. Whenever the dealer has a 10 + blind I always want to hit but I guess I should stop that. I'll keep those tips in mind the next time I play. The dealer getting 21 basically guarantees a streak to be over. The odds of matching that are so low.

Any anons mind describing the specifics of the "too unfair to use" tag? I wanted to play around with stardust and equipment repair kits but don't want to make equipment unusable.

>>17145615
I'd say go little girl.

>>17145662
>>17145664
When exactly did younger sisters get such a following? I always thought it was just the one guy who made the younger sister pack.

>>17145936
What the heck, I get winning streaks of a dozen wins, I don't even need to cheat most of the time. Do you even blackjack?

>>17146044
get with the times old man, we embraced younger sister long ago

>>17146044
Younger sister is good meem, but we are not part of the younger sister cult I swear. I used to be a little girl man, but now I prefer young ladies.

>>17145615
>>17146044
>>17146056
I also can't recall younger sister being that popular. Should be one the goddesses, like Yacatect. She's cool.

>>17146064
It's an acquired taste indeed. When you realize that little girl is just poor mans younger sister.

>>17146085
No my man, with young lady I mean the eponymous blonde ojou. I want her to fufufu all over me.

Ok Elona, decision time. Who is our girl?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13139652

Necro mantis is pretty neat. The only combo I could do was cat zombie+mommy and it gave me a level 67 Undead Queen, way above my level.

>>17146044
Mostly because Little Girl doesn't seem to have ANY fanart and that sprite didn't seem like a good reference for the thing they're doing. If we can't get a good piece of fanart for reference I wouldn't recommend the cup people use that.
It's the same reason I didn't suggest Gwen.
Compare that to younger sister who has almost a page full on a booru.
Someone post a good picture of reference for Little Girl, please.

Course to be fair Elona's significantly lacking in notable NPCs. The most notable named characters in the story are probably Larnneire and Lomias and you never really see them again after the tutorial. The entire first part of the story portion of Elona (Or the entire story before +) seems to do whatever without you actually influencing it as the PC.
I guess the point is to choose a character that stands out and will make people go "Oh, I remember that character when I played Elona."
If we go by "named NPCs only" logic we'd probably be limited to the tutorial duo or the NPCs in Vernis.

>>17145863
>>17146070
The gods are divided among 8(7) and noone seems to give much of a shit about them besides using them for their drops and then leveling high enough to kill them.

>>17146096
One of my favorites but unfortunately probably not recognizable enough.

Found some for Little Girl.

civil war when?

>>17146167
Do we even have 15 people in this thread right now?

>>17146170
Apparently there are 53 unique IP's ITT.

>>17145808
that was because of the acid slimes, the putits are harmless even to a new character
>>17145615
oh, also the term scut is short for it's cute, kind of a notable thing. sometimes people day it when they die, it's kind of a meme within the game

>>17146167
How about the left part of the player being a little girl, and the right part a younger sister, à la frankenstein ?
Fits Elona, thanks to gene engineering ?

>>17146180
Lets not make another Moetron.

>>17146170
that's probably everyone in the thread unless someone voted multiple times

What special effect or attack or spell prints ''X is overwhelmed'' then kills everything on screen by making their minds give up? Zombie Queen does this a lot. I want to do it too

>>17146126
>The gods are divided among 8(7) and noone seems to give much of a shit about them besides using them for their drops and then leveling high enough to kill them.
There's a ton of Kumiromi on Pixiv, and plenty of Ehekatl as well. In fact, check Ehekatl on your favorite booru right now.

>>17146157
>>17146126
There's a lot more of little girl on pixiv, I regularly trawl through the Elona tag. However, many artists don't seem to have the habit of adding the appropriate character tag to their work.

>>17146268
Feel free to post some, Younger Sister could probably use more reference art also if she's the one that wins.
I personally don't care between the two but it'd probably be best to make this as easy as possible on the cup people.

>>17146279
She's included in practically every comic too.

>>17146268
Not only is little girl not tagged properly, every other artist draws her completely different. So no wonder. Younger sister pretty much always looks the same.

is there a deed of removal deed equivalent for the other buildings? so i can just move my little town to south tyris as i have no real reason to visit north other than buying buff spells very occasionally

You making money?

So what would the recommended body parts to get from Gavela as a melee based char? One of the big questions would be what slot holds the best accuracy boosting equips to offset duel wieled accuacy penalty

>>17146418
No, but if you're comfortable dicking with the files you can pretty easily just plop down new farms/ranches/storage houses and copy the map files over. It's pretty easy to do (BACKUP FIRST ANYWAYS), and I think there was a guide I saw on the wiki if you couldn't figure it out yourself.

Will adventurers become perma-hostile if I use a duel glove against them and beat them? The wiki seems to be kinda not agreeing on what's the truth on that.

What did it mean by this?

>>17146736
I rarely ever stumble upon adventurers outside of my home, sometimes in Palmia but that's it.
Don't worry too much about killing them, especially if they have artifacts on them.

Has anyone been able to find a Stradivarius from bards in 1.66+? Did they make it so that you can only buy it with music tickets or can it still drop?

>>17146802
Old version of Elona+? Right now I usually meet 2-3 adventurer in every town.

does murder knight keep his time stop ability when recruited?

>>17146912
Latest with custom. Perhaps I should pay more attention then.

Also on an unrelated note, the AP vendor in Sputh Tyris is fucking insane, 20 speed upgrades are massive. My character had 140 and now he's well over 400. Made my pets useless.

>>17146511
a shame. that sounda a bit too cheaty so imma just buy another 8 ranches, farm, shop and deed of removal deed and move everything manually.

anyone know where the best place to put it all is? in north i was above palmia for the party time+farm quests, easy god access and central location.
south is confusing

>>17146992
I'm not on custom, so that might be why.

>>17146992
>Made my pets useless.
Only until you upgrade them since they get better gains on this, too, than you do.

>>17146974
fuck fuck fuck my murder knight is male, any way to get a second one?

>>17146974
Does he ever have timestop? I've never seen him using it.

>>17147065
Murder knight is always male.
There is a... remedy for that, though.

>>17146736

I only used the duel glove once so far to get a nice upgrade I was too poor/cheap to trade for early on. A good couple in-game months later I'm in Palmia and I hear something smashing through walls and all of a sudden the dude is all up in my shit and I have to burn an incognito scroll to get him to chill before he kills my escort quest.

Was a bit annoyed since I thought avoiding that drama was the entire point of the glove. Anyway this was a version or two ago, 1.66 I think, only have one other glove and haven't had any need to use it yet since all my adventures have shitty equipment now.

>>17147065
He's a male NPC. Unique. You should be able to change it with a potion or something though, or just call him a girl since that's just as good in 2017 year of inclusiveness

>>17147065

>>17147065
Astral light pen and try to meet him as void boss. But if only thing you unhappy about is its gender, then it can be easily fixed with blessed forbidden meat.

>>17147003
That's not it because I am finding plenty of adventurers with custom. At least 2 per town on average.

>>17147080
>2017
It's still the 500s in Irva.

>>17147079
That suck, really makes you wonder what's the point of that glove.

>>17147117
Not taking a karma hit, I imagine, but karma is so easy to keep maxed out that I don't see a point.

>>17147089
It can be 2017 if it wants to be. Don't age shame

>>17147117
I'm pretty sure it just guarantees that all artifacts drop.

Also maybe cancel karma loss.

>>17147089
It's the 500s and they have portable railguns, laser pistols and cloning devices.
Really makes you think.

>>17147132
They also have a god of technology you can meet, greet and eat which probably helps a bit.

I keep dissipating like I have cursed equipment but I've uncursed and unequipped everything for good measure. It happens in dungeons, towns and my properties. What the fuck is happening?

>>17147145
Check for ether diseases.

>>17147145
ether disease most likely
''you feel unstable''or similar

>>17147145
Then you have an ether disease symptom. Get a potion of cure corruption.

>>17141535
I thought it was a waste to leave this thing unfinished, so I redrew the sprite, removed shitty floating pixels and semitransparent ones, added swaying butt and bopping head/wings. Here's the first Elona harpy pcc lads. Make sure to save it in 24 bits when converting to bmp. I'll make variations too.

>>17147219
Nice, thank you.

Apparently shit weight is dependent on the creature weight. I just picked up a 100 pound ice ent shit and I'm considering setting up an altar of worship for possibly the greatest piece of shit in history.

>>17147272
If that's the case it may be possible to make an even bigger shit if you give massive amounts of mix feed to one of your pets and put them into a ranch.

>>17147319
A year in the clear and THIS is what gets me back to Elona?

>>17147319
The PC can't take a shit, can they?
If so, imagine what golem players could produce.

>>17147159
>>17147160
>>17147161
that was it, I must have gotten ether eyed in a monster party room

Hold my beer /jp/, I'll be spending tonight studying shit mechanics.

How do I leave guilds? Like not switch to another guild, go back to being in none, so all 3 trainers will visit me?

>>17147597
Do you have access to Lost Irva?

>>17147646
Lost Irva access isn't necessary, anon.
>>17147597
Visit the Oblivion Palace in South Tyris by walking three panels up and two panels right from Rehmido, and talk to the shaman there. She can reset your guild alignment and a few other things for no cost other than what she takes away.

>>17145104
From my tests with dominating random monsters in dungeons and lowering their INI through the oblivion palace NPC, it seems in 1.68 that attributes and skills bottom out at 20 instead of 50. Each time you select the option to reduce INI the pets attributes, including speed, and skills get halved. Life and Mana values are not touched. Once attributes and skills have bottomed out at exactly 20, or in some cases around that number Ex:23, you reach a point where you can't lower the INI value anymore.

If a pet has attributes below 20, in most cases you can't reduce INI further but I've seen instances where attributes and skills were not reduced further with the rock bottom attributes but INI still droped. I have no explanation for why that happened though. At any rate though, there is a limit to how low of an INI score can go and that can vary between pets but not much considering after attributes and skills reach around 20 reduction to INI tends to stop.

As for the other questions, don't know what the bonus exp formula looks like, no way to lower mana that I know of unless you're playing in a mode with savescum penalties and purposely trigger it, and you can lower speed through slow mounts, being burdened, being very tired, fetter of earth, enemy speed hex, and the reduction of INI above.

>>17146044
According to an anon last thread,

>Make sure that after counting the enchantment bonus of the piece, its hit bonus + damage bonus is under 80, and the DV + PV bonus under 180. If you go over that the flag will apply unless they removed it in recent updates.

I've so far put it on my static artifact bow for my pet and have had no problems. Guess just keep in mind the above.

>>17146107
This is tough. Please don't make me choose! I like them both.

>>17147657
Could have sworn the Oblivion Palace was LI. I must be thinking of another hidden location then.

>>17147646
nop

>>17147657
thanks

How do you make mix feed? It says add books but it won't take anything.

>>17147862
Add body parts: cards, figurines, hearts, bones, eyes, skins, and one another thing that I can't quite remember name of.

>>17147880
So it's just like the necro recipe then? Thanks, they should really fix that translation.

So am I underleveled for south tyris or is there some vast collection of reasonable leveled dungeons to spelunk somewhere I'm missing. I beat part one at level 32 or so and now all the dungeons in both contintents are like level 60-80.

Shit scientist here. Shit seems to be capped at 100 pounds in weight, shame. Haven't tried the mix feed yet, I'll be back with more results.

This time the shit I got was from a spiral king which I assume is pretty heavy.

just went through the shrine of chaos and stomped the <Razzmatazz> guy who runs it
tried the same thing in the chaos fort nearby thinking they were similar difficulty and <Sizzler> utterly devastated my anus
what the fuck Gavela, "complete some tasks"? tell me where to go exactly and put it in the fucking journal

Daily reminder that Ajetalio a shit.

can speed spell be reserved if i invest enough or is it a no-go?

>>17148297

Yea

>>17146438
ranka?

>>17148297
Entire list of stuff you can reserve. Just copy pasted to fit everything on one page. Most of the time, you just need to read the spellbook of a spell before they start showing up on the spell writer. Some spells require the reading of the spellbook and an appropriate guild rank before they show up on the spell writer. Investing in the spell writer makes him sell more copies of the spellbook(s) you reserved.

knightceroes are pretty fucking good, high speed (286), high STR and CON with 300+ regen makes them incredible tanks. The damage is just a nice bonus.

>>17148384

Why is thunder vortex non reservable when it's shit anyway?

according to l'wik, eating Vesda gives permanent fire resist
what about the three Sizzler bosses? will I immediately lose that mind resist? also do I get anything from eating Frisia or Utima?

>>17148519
In the past, the wet status for extra damage didn't apply to ice spells. It only applied to thunder vortex and lightning bolt. Also there was no oil or gasoline for extra damage for fire spells. So thunder/lightning spells in the past was actually similar in damage or a bit better than fire and ice. It's different now but your point still stands and I agree. I don't understand why thunder vortex and for that matter, bubble storm are not reservable. Just got to shrug and accept that it is what it is.

>>17147677
So to bring down anything to 1 attributes, you only need to stockpile 190 corpses of zombies and 5 doomed hermes potions, counteracting the raise in str/con/cha of eating the zombie corpses through vomiting while anorexic.
Life can be lowered through gavela/icolle for pets, and save penalty for yourself with mana too.
Preparing 2000 AP in advance is also of course a must to raise speed directly to an usable level.

Ok, the draft is drawn, time to apply it. Now, to gain access to south tyris first to test the life/mana part of the ini reset...

>>17148534
Go to the food page of the wiki and scroll down until you see the section that says Elona+ corpses with special effects. Don't think Frisia or Utima give anything. Also I'm not sure about that statement that fire resist from eating that corpse is permanent. Lost a lot of food based resists while I slept which is why I don't care too much about corpse based resists when it comes to the player. Might want to feed the stuff to your pet since pets don't have those bad dream sequences.

>>17148596
figuring out which pet isn't already maxed on food resist would require save scumming
I guess it's justified though since the game doesn't track this info for me

<<<scared>>>

...in how many hours? Excuse me?

>>17148740
Looks like an underflow, try killing him

>>17148619
Couldn't you just unequip them and check their resists?

>>17148743
Guess I'll see whether it's fixed when he respawns. Not like it hurts to try

The knightceros can destroy mountains on the overworld map, this dude just ruined everything around Vernis trying to find me.

Is there a way to prevent summoned monsters from disappearing from my house?

Is there any way to stop apparel showing up on my pets? I have a custom sprite that I'd like to see without the equipment clutter.

>>17148964
Use dresser, target your adjacent pet.

>>17148792
You need neutral NPCs spawned from diaries to permanently populate your house, if i remember IIRC.


So next update player shops will get gutted, due to nerfing buying from NPCs reselling in shop.
High-level players can still sell their dungeon crap in their blacksmith, but what about low-level money making then ?
Farming fruits/vegetables, cooking them, selling in player's inn ?

>>17148980
The farm/cook/sell cycle is a tried and true classic, and absurdly profitable since you get so fucking many fruit/vegetable seeds from Noyel. Only real risk is getting gardening too high and getting supermonsters spawning on the farms.
Really, it just means players will have to go back to older methods, and I doubt most players who'd have cashflow issues without scalping knew about scalping.

how to get a ranch breed faster? Any time warps with out lowering your speed to 0?

>>17149055

Just lower your speed. Of course time skips 3 years after you beat act 1 but everyone knows that and you can't repeat it.

I feel a bit out of place. A godslayer going back to adventuring school but I'm interested in getting those special items just to add to my treasure collection.

>>17148980
Not much is going to really change with the pet run shop scene for most people I think. All the traditional stuff should work. You should still be able to sell your crafted or looted goods(food, equipment, etc) in your specialized shops to get some nice gold so no change there.

At the low levels people should be getting their gold from job board quests, selling dungeon junk, cargo runs. Whoring is also a possible option for some people too. Eventually you can transition or add onto these activities various crafting to make even more gold. Crafting can be anything from making cooked food out of farm produce, creating beer, creating armor/weapons, potions, etc. These items can be sold to either the random vendor in the world or pet run shops for even more money.

As far as making money goes, the next patch might help people who like to dungeon dive and sell dungeon junk. Certain crafters will also enjoy the added material spots in dungeons.

>There is now a phenomenon that may occur on the 15th and after of months that are not a multiple of 3. This will cause all Nefia to get enhanced (NB: terminology subject to change). Like the etherwind, this has a high random chance of occurring. When Nefia are enhanced, the amount of gold pieces placed on each floor will be increased, there will be more material gathering spots, items generated on the ground will have their level increased and be identified by default. Strength of enemies remains the same.

On a side note, there's also an interesting rp element being added.

>Added an option to eat together with pets who are at Friend or above if neither the player nor the pet has anorexia. This option, available in the conversation window, will select a non-rotten and non-cursed rank 5 or above cooked food item and share it with your pet. The prerequisites are somewhat troublesome, but the food item will give half the normal satiety but a full amount of all other effects. No auto-turn will occur, and the item will be considered eaten when the conversation ends. Added a new txtMeal NPC custom line for this.

From the sounds of it it won't work with pure herbs but I suppose if you infused say a steak with herbs you could technically make it go farther as both the player and the pet will nom nom on the same food item.

>>17149068
There's another after act 2, too.

Nice.
How rare is the catsister diary?

>>17149176
theyre fairly rare

ive never seen a dog sister diary drop though

i only got one through trading in my tickets

>>17149189
I guess I don't have a choice then... though I'm waiting to get some equipment for my catsister and little sister before using the books.

>>17148339
>>17148384
thanks sempais

>>17148980
>So next update player shops will get gutted, due to nerfing buying from NPCs reselling in shop.
i dont get what you mean.
does this affect me as someone who just dumped items in shop and checked occasionally? or are you saying they have less money?
i dont get why theyd nerf this as someone who doesnt play with any pets at all and has very little to spend money on it doesnt feel like its too good, nevermind if i was someone who had to buy pets items. you cant sell skins in the shop so i already do tons of manual selling elsewhere its really just a side thing

>>17149377
There are two kind of shops. You got your NPC shops like the magic vendor, general vendor, goods vendor, blacksmith, etc. Then there are the shops that the player has to buy a deed for at the embassy and then have a pet run it.

What is getting nerfed deals with pet run shops. Not the regular NPC vendors. Rich players like Kai would just go in and buy all the stuff from NPC vendors and get it for cheaper than other players because his negotiation skill is probably better than most. He would then sell all the items he got from the vendors at a higher price than what the vendors were selling them for using his pet run shops. Sometimes at 2x to 3x the normal price. The nerf tones down rich people's profit margins by reducing the max amount NPC vendor bought items sell for in pet run shops.

If you're just selling stuff to NPC vendors, that nerf does not effect you. If you're selling stuff you found outside of an NPC inventory list such as the stuff you find in dungeons or the material from your ranches in your pet run shops, the nerf doesn't effect you.

>>17149496
So if I just make my money through fishing and cooking the fish can I still make money or not? Right now I make like 10mil per 20 bait I think.

>>17149537
The nerf would not effect that so you wouldn't see any decline in what you make.

>>17149537
I must be at two thousands playtime combined right now, and i never saw that fucking <Super Lure> even once.
It's fucking murder to have such a gameplay-altering item be so dependant on the RNG.

>>17149551
I was so happy when I got it, I really wish that you could just buy it from the bait salesman after he gets to rank 1000, or higher, I don't care as long as there's a definite way to get it.
Maybe with the new way artifacts are generated it's easier to get it? I spammed oracle whenever I was in town hoping to get an adventured with it, and did eventually.
Also it's one of the reasons why I don't wanna make a new character, <Super Lure> is too good.

>>17149496
thanks sampai

so for the second part of story ive moved all my stuff from north to south tyris because i have little reason to go north. will the same thing be true in part 3? just wondering if i should buy deeds in advance now rather than have to make repeated trips all at once later

>>17149551
I found it too, with just fifty hours on this character, and it's been sitting on the loot pile at home unused. I'd give it to you if I could, I don't really have a use for it.

Does anyone know what happened to that one inferno player that played as a horse? I remember people talking about him in the threads forever ago and was curious if he was still hoofing it to act 3?

>>17150181
He vanished. Dicks will never return.

>Free the fire giant
>Everyone walks single file at it to die instantly

Not what I expected.

best place to rebuild my house? Is it worth relocating 5 ranches, 4 farms, a shop, and 4 storage houses away from Vernis?

I'm about to upgrade from Small Castle to Palace, any precautions? Do I have to pick up all my items off my first floor first?

>>17150232
It's too cold in Noyel.

>>17150355
It depends on your build. If you're a spellcaster build it near Lumiest to have easy access to the spell witer.

>>17150355
I picked up everything just to be sure except for one item, and when I relocated that item was in a bag on the floor in the new location.

I'd still pick them up just to be safe because this game makes me paranoid about things, also I kinda regret relocating now because those markets are so far away from my new home and its kind of awkward to move around now.

>>17150355
Everything should be transferred automatically into a pile on the floor. When I upgraded to a palace, I moved from Vernis to Palmia and then started building ranches and stuff there. But since the only deed of which you can transfer everything is the house, you're in a tough spot. I spent some time designing my shop interiors, so now I can't even bring myself to move anymore.

>>17150355
if you aint high enough to finish part 1 (i did it at level 32 and now im in trouble because everything is too high for me to fight so maybe get a bit higher than me) move everything to above palmia. you have easy party time in palmia, farm in yowin, gods above you and are pretty much center of the map

if you can finish part 1 then i put all my new stuff in the bog area in south tyris which is very close to multiple towns and the main dungeon

be careful when moving stuff i had no idea this could happen but when i upgraded to palace the game deleted a ton of my items; all my rods, all the scrolls i had in my house, all my small medals id been collecting. nothing irreplacable but pretty annoying

>>17150355
I like any area where snow appears since I don't know if that's an actual thing or not, but I swear it snows way more often than it rains, so it's great for passing time for farms or statues or whatever else. Everything above Truce Ground, as well as one line under it is snowy, so that's a nice place.
>>17150415
With a Deed of Removal Deed you can move your house and it'll the way you had your house set up stays the same, but that only works for homes, not for farms, or ranches.

>>17150458
Right around here?

>>17150598
I put it literally in the swamp since you can do that. So its about equal distance between the two mel's

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have an spot anywhere near as good as North Tyris did.

>>17150623
So whats the point relocating there if it's better to just sit in north tyris?

>>17150407

That's bad advice. I thought the same when I started this character but there's nothing else near Lumiest and once you get far enough you'll just buy over 1000 stocks worth of a spell or so when you get low and not go back to the guy for a while. Not to mention when you start buying and spamming blessed scrolls of wonder spell stock becomes much less of an issue.

Is there anyway to anchor a shopkeeper to a point in your home? mine keep wandering and interminging.


I don't wanna have to close a door every time I use them.

>>17150888
I found that when you put them in a certain spot with the move a stayer option on the houseboard, they tend to remain within a small radius of that spot.

>>17150625
Because part 2 has you constantly do **** in South Tyris, the higher leveled dungeons are in south tyris, the ap trainer is in south tyris, etc
North had an ideal spot above Palmia and south lacks that, but south as a whole offers more than north does.

>>17150937
Why would you self-censor a harmless word like that?

>A new feature to highlight/filter items has been implemented and can be found under Tweaks>Convenience, thanks to GameGame123 for the idea.

>There are 3 modes: 0 disables it, 1 highlights the items (different hues depending if they are id'ed or not), 2 highlights and filters everything else, meaning you will only ever see the items you have highlighted.

>To use this feature, enable one of the two highlight modes and edit the ItemList.txt file, setting to 1 the items you want to have highlighted.

Dunno how this works in practial terms, the item list is mostly jap.

Anyone have a list of suggested highlights or upload of their own version? This makes finding Scrolls of Oracle/Rods of Wish that share sprites with similar junk shit easier right?

>>17150888
I put them in the end of a 1 line wide, 3 lines long rooms and they never wander out, I don't think they even go more than 2 lines away from it.

I've been fiddling with the custom AI to try and get it to do what I want but it always barfs out errors. I just want to make my pet hyper-aggressive so it can clear dungeons by itself, how would I go about doing that?

>>17150977
Habit off the only other forum I post on

>>17151027
Default AI gold bell.

>>17151045
Any way to replicate that in the custom AI?

>>17151013
scroll of growth
scroll of faith
flying scroll
potion of potential
potion of cure corruption
potion of descent
bottle of speed upper
hermes blood
bottle of water
spellbook of wishing
spellbook of harvest
rod of wishing

>>17151074
That'll do it, thanks.

>>17151027
How did you set it up?

Any of the non-speed boosting shift cores any good? I got the Omega one and then Gamma after noticing it adds more speed.
Speed is such a superior stat it seems hard to compare too though. Like its +20% phys v hitting the enemy for 100% damage with anything more often
Could be the magic reflect or resist or whatever is better than it seems though

>>17151091
If distance to target>2 then shadowstep. But for some reason shadowstep doesn't work (or my pet doesn't know it?) so it just gets stuck doing nothing.

>>17151129
did you bother to tell it to do other things when its sp is too low.

>>17151146
I don't get any option for SP here in the menu.

>>17151146
Pretty sure custom pet ai doesn't use sp. I remember reading on the wiki pets have action points(derived from some other formula based on stats) that each special action costs when using custom ai.

What kind of character is the black cat from the goddess of luck? Archer or melee? Getting some equipment ready for her.

>>17151166
Found the part I was referencing.

>Secondly, since pets do not use stamina, every ability that your pet knows has a resource associated with it. You could consider it something like "energy", and it functions to limit how often your pet can use a specific ability. The maximum energy for any specific ability is 5 * (stamina cost/10), with a cap of 20. The energy use for every action is max(1, stamina cost/10)+1. Every time that your pet enters the customized AI routine, it will regenerate 1 point of energy for every ability that it knows.

>>17151178
It attacks in melee, but in between will use magic dart, a ranged weapon, or its special skills. It also might be a male. When I got a male cute fairy, I just put him on a ranch and he produced a female cute fairy.

>>17151200
Is the defender always male at least? Or is that something I have to worry about when rerecruiting it this run?

>>17151215
I think the defender can also be female. Others are always the same gender though, such as the black angel and golden knight.

>>17151184
then for when it doesnt have that. assuming pets don't on top of getting better ap rewards, skill gains, stat potential gains, easier limb additions and bonus mats for killing with the right skill they dont also regenerate enough energy to use shadowstep every single turn without end

>>17149551
Good for training cooking, making money and worship I guess. It doesn't train fishing itself so it's kinda useless like that.
Skeleton key though? That shit's cash.

>>17151129
You need something other than shadowstep, because your pet can't shadowstep every turn.

Additionally, your pet can be targeted on something that is too far away to see (or vision is obstructed). So the shadowstep instruction will fail in those cases.

If all you want it to do is shadowstep, then...

Target Distance > 1 And
Target Distance < 6 Shadowstep
Target Distance = 1 Attack (Melee)
Target Distance > 1 Move (Forward)

That should work. Might should be 5 instead of 6 for the second line of shadowstep, but I think that's it.

>>17151200
That sounds complicated. I guess I should give her 2 melee weapons and a good ranged weapon then. Or maybe I'll force her to use melee/dart only by giving her a ranged weapon with an obsolete ammo.

>>17151264
That seems to have done the trick, thanks a lot!

>>17151274
When you start mass crafting panties for cash, you might make one with really good resists. That would be an ideal shoot slot equip for her.

Actually come to think of it, in recent E+ versions you can equip any weapon in the ranged slot. So you can put any weapon with good bonuses in there. On most of my melee pets I have swords of defender or extra shields in the shoot slot.

>>17151301
Oh didn't think about that actually. That seems kinda abusive but that's pretty good in itself.

>>17151301
Bear in mind they will try to use the weapon in their throwing slot unless you give them a custom AI or something else that forbids them from shooting.
You can see them throwing the weapon akin to throwing weapons.

>>17151388
Would giving them the weapon and putting weird ammos make it so they don't use said weapon?

>>17151416
Not him, but I have weapons+unfitting ammos in there and my pets as far as I can tell never attempt to ''shoot'' with them. The ammo is handy for e.g. life (rubynus), or a little extra nerve resist (emerald).

Just farmed for 1 hour in the puppy cave for trinkets so I can get my piety up with Yacatect

Almost 4k piety (in about 5 days), ~400kGP just from gold bells. Loads of ores that my pet sold on the shop, a guillotine, an assortment of smoking pipes, 3 unicorn horns, several skill books, around 50 ancient books worth ~70 guild points, a potion of cure corruption, 10 material boxes, several gold bell parts, an <Unknown Shell> and a 10k Kitty Bank.

That puppy cave is fucking ridiculous.

>>17151434
Nice haul. For jewelry I'd usually just do dungeons because several enemy types guaranteed drop multiple rings/necklaces per kill. But I actually might follow suit, take a couple adventurers and new pets with me to build affection.

Is there a skill which puts items on cooldown? My necromancy items that were in the key, my shift core, my god items were all simutaniously on a 1 hour cooldown for no apparent reason.

>>17151484
Did you visit deep sea castle by any chance?
It puts everything that could be put on cooldown until you sleep, so you couldn't just easily wait it out (since time flies much faster there).

>>17151434
Not really. 400k is nothing, the items you mentioned are easy to get elsewhere with money or stealing, unknown shell you will likely get just from farming quests eventually and you could have just bought tons of jewelery in noel from crooked.
Its decent early game. Like super extreme early game. But the moment you buy a shop, set it to sell food and just cook then dump the food in it you already went beyond the point puppy cave is worth a damn. And that takes very little time.

>>17151496
ah i did yea. phew. was worried this was some really limiting anti-fun enemy ability

how do I get my shop keeper to leave the shop so he doesn't die when I relocate it?

>>17151429
Thanks, so I guess a shield is the best bet.

>>17151500
Yeah I meant the early game, makes getting into that mages guild a breeze, and the occasional rare drop for a very easy dungeon makes it all better.

>>17151509
Take him with you using the register.

>>17147964
No really am I underleveled? Wiki says the quest in the military town to clear out the area stairs go to should be easy. I die in 3 hits. I have no idea where I'm supposed to start to make any progress here everything went from around my level to double it on average with no warning.
Quests aren't giving much exp at all either.

Let's say I have a melee weapon that invokes Armageddon on a pet's ranged slot for the stats and I use fire a volley. What happens?
>>17151524
You haven't posted your stats and skills and resists so we can't really answer that our give any advice

>>17151416
You can't use throwing weapons if you have ammo equipped. Pets follow the same rules as the player does.

>>17151524
Dungeons that appear are based on your fame. If you want easier dungeons, lower it. Also I have consistently gotten very low level dungeons from using the statue of Opatos, so that might be an idea.

>>17151562
Awesome. So I can force the black cat to use melee only. All that's left now is to get her some equipment and get her the god heart (but that's not for yet as I started not that long ago).

I like populating storage houses with neutrals. The NPCs spawned there with a mysterious diary never leave as far as I know, just like at home, since I summoned a gryffon child that way about an in-game year ago and he's still waddling around in there. And they don't seem to count against the home stayer limit. Didn't one of you anons make a little town that way? Can even change the map sprite of the storage house.

>>17151500

I'm still early game but not super early, my shop brings in like 20k on a good day, 400k would not be nothing for me, especially from something as easy as the Puppy Cave.

But I dunno, besides the fact my shitty shopkeeper can only sell like 4 items at a time at most he's probably gimped by the fact the shop is still filled with trash from much earlier and not just cooked meat. I'm sure a properly optimized shop would be doing better. I should start a second shop and specialize it in selling food.

>>17151530
Level 35 now, 72 strength, 74 con, 712 hp, 134 speed. I don't think any of the other stats matter since I don't use pets or magic outside of buffs.
36 tactics, 21 duel wield, 40 medium armor and 29 eye of mind I don't think the other skills are relevant here either.
The main issue is speed and being too weak to beat things to get AP to raise it. Many of the enemies get 2-4 turns per 1 of mine while dealing massive damage and outhealing what I do.
I'm resistant to dark, poison and ice and immune to pretty much every status effect I've ran into other than poison and brainwashing. Its physical damage which seems to be killing me though.

>>17151567
Weird, somehow I'm at a level of fame too low for panic/challenge quests and too high to be able to fight what its spawning.
Its like a nirvana of suck

>>17151618
I just set my shop to sell food when I'm too lazy to bring other stuff and if I want to sell other stuff switch it to whatever I need to to make good money on it (like inn after I'm done with the meat from ranches for the milk)
The cost of switching shop type is nothing compared to devoting another pet slot to shop keeper instead of ranch.

>>17151631

Oh, I didn't realize you could switch it back and forth like that, that would make things a lot easier.

Still I think I'll want at least two shops eventually so I might as well start developing a second one now.

>>17151641
It costs money per rank but my rank 16 or so shop only took 16k which is less than 2 good quality rabbit hides and I get like 50 hides per cleanse of a ranch

>>17151629
I would say lower your fame by a decent chunk, wait for and then start doing lower level (say Lv20-50) dungeons to build up your strength and resources a little. Start crafting equipment and try to get as many resists at superb as possible, upgrade all your gear to +10 at the smith, hoard buff potions/spellbooks and in the meantime farm, get breakfast+crafts from your pets every day, and train those stats. I'm only ten levels higher, but few things in Lv60-80 dungeons can scratch my PC. The key is good gear and stats, level doesn't matter that much. You just hit the wall where you have to finetune your stuff in order to survive.

>>17151653
Yea I'm gonna go fail a ton of missions. My stats are actually all superb or great and have been pretty much all the time since well before I beat the boss of part 1. My crafing is crap though since the only mats I've ran into in decent numbers are the ones used to make magic items and booze.
Shame half the answers to my probels seem to be ''use pets more'' when I already don't like using my pet for breakfest and ensmbles. I don't like pets at all. Hell I'd have a ton more mats if I used pets too.

>>17151675
Kek, yeah, you would.
As an additional advice - start growing herbs. They help with stat growth.

>>17151696
I've had a herb farm going since like level 10. Pot of potentials and blessed water consistently keeping potential high since like 20. I don't think my stats or the rate they were going up before everything outscaled were bad.
Hopefully in some future patch they let me use an inv slot or something to get those kind of drops for killing things as a solo player. Of all the things pets can do its probably the most annoying thing that I miss out on purely because I want to play solo.
At least with breakfest and the like I just gene engineer the skill in, let the pet kill stuff enough to evo chat, chat it up then bring it out just for the moment I need it.
I straight up can't get comparable crafting drops in the same time as a pet player without having the pet ruin the combat for me.

>>17151696
Nice party, anyone who has a young lady in their entourage is a brother of mine

>>17151730
Sounds like you just need to find a way to grind more efficiently and get a new good setup for fights. As a solo player you should be able to get your skills far higher than players who have to focus that time and money on their pets. Also first invest in all the magic vendors, then do round trips to every town and buy up all the gain material scrolls.

>>17151629
Your skill potentials seem low for that level. How are you spending your platinum? Also, if you haven't already, get a god to worship. They give a pretty sizable boost in stats. Opatos of Earth gives a 10% damage reduction passive and at 4000 favor (40 faith) you get like +10 str and +12 con along with other benefits.

Why do monsters spawn on farms? It's such a fucking pain in the ass.

>>17151889
Monsters see a buffet of free food and call others over.

>>17151889
I don't know if it's true but I read that scarecrows reduce the likelihood of monsters spawning.

>>17151807
>Also first invest in all the magic vendors
This is where I get my pots of potential from. I invest in them every time it lets be do it in chunks of 50.
I'm also already buy out scrolls of mats, although maybe I should instead of buy>use instantly just buy buy buy buy buy>bless>then use? Not sure how big a dif blessing them makes. Only really bothered blessing pots of potenital

>>17151823
I usually just top up anything that gets below 100% and get whatever I want to grind the most (currently crafting skills) to 400%. Maybe I should switch that to 200%?
I'm on my third or fourth god. I'm on the magic one now but I should probably switch to Opatos or Lulwy to shore up my lackluster defensive or not be outmatched in speed so hard while I slowly grind AP to fix that.

I beat that little dungeon under the town by using my necropolis cat mummy summon and got a massive armor increase from that which seems to be much better than what I was using before.

I think if I switch god and use this armor I should largely be fine. And pump duel wield a lot so I can actually hit the annoying teleporting mage enemies who get multiple turns to my one.
And if not it takes very little time to repeatedly fail farming/party time quests
Thanks guys

>>17151900
My farm has like 40 scarecrows (I collect them) and I still usually get 2 or 3 monsters per visit. Seems to have no effect at all.
infact if I go to my farm in north tyris which has like 10 scarecrows then to south which has like 40 I get the same numbers generallt

>>17151935
>I'm also already buy out scrolls of mats, although maybe I should instead of buy>use instantly just buy buy buy buy buy>bless>then use? Not sure how big a dif blessing them makes.
Are you talking about scrolls of change material? If you bless them (before 1.67) they are likely to transform the object into a high-tier material. You can even get adamantium or dragonscale.

>>17151935
Yes, you get garbage from unblessed ones. I bless the pile when I have like 50 scrolls of gain material.

>>17151935
If you're having problems you and have some extra plat you should buff up those skills. When I was struggling I just kept them in the 250-350% range until I was satisfied. With like 60 armor at that level and decent resists you should be pretty tanky. Also for fast enemies you could get throwing. The nice thing about throwing is that you get the bonus damage from tactics. Then you won't have to chase things around and you can lure stuff to you or into a funnel.

>>17151947
Nah get material. Since I've only had bad mats in dungeons really and I don't get free ones just for killing like pets do.

>>17151960
Thanks. This explains a lot on why crafting didn't seem that good to me


>>17151992
My throwing is one of my highest skills. Its like 2 or 3 times as high as my duel wield (which I switch too just before finishing part 1; 2 hand is actually my highest combat skill even though it still does less damage than duel wielding does). I don't seem to have a good weapon for throwing though; anything I use tends to just miss a ton.

>>17151696
I never managed to figure this out, how do you get the materials from your pets? I don't see any option anywhere. Does it have to be a specific one?

>>17152020
If you can get your hands on the <Nightmare> precious throwing weapon then you'll be set. I gave it to my pet since I wanted some extra range support and she's currently my strongest pet at level 36. 2d10+21 x6.6 Dmg 210% Hit with the extra bonus of stripping magic resists and stops time occasionally.

>>17152020
>My throwing is one of my highest skills. Its like 2 or 3 times as high as my duel wield (which I switch too just before finishing part 1; 2 hand is actually my highest combat skill even though it still does less damage than duel wielding does). I don't seem to have a good weapon for throwing though; anything I use tends to just miss a ton.
How far away are you throwing from?

>>17152084
Looking up that tells me ranged weps scale to distance. I had no idea since I only use them on enemies too goddamn annoying to melee. Seems like something good to aim for.
I do have Sheena's panties but throwing panties at the enemy is strangely not that effective.

>>17152092
Too close probably.

>>17152104
Forgot to mention that the Nightmare weapon ignores damage ranges according to the wiki. Also, panties aren't a bad choice but the damage variance is too high for my tastes.

>>17152061
It's literally the first option in dialogue. You also need "collecting" skills (detection, gene engineering, fishing, mining, gardening) on pet for them to actually collect materials.

If you have E+Custom, you can also (i)nteract with yourself and collect materials from all pets.