/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Asuka's route in AoKana was fantastic, pic related describes it pretty well. After the 夏大会 I was expecting a more chuuni strategy-based final tournament, with detailed descriptions of their manoeuvres and tactics in the game. I would've really enjoyed that, FC is a sufficiently complex, fun and engaging sport that there's so much potential for a proper tactical sports VN, but the line they took was great too, it definitely fits Asuka's character and playstyle more.

I finished Kimi to Yumemishi, because I can't stop picking up stuff that have been mentioned here and the Shigure video was really catchy. Yui's route was the only one that I was invested into and it was an asshole move to lock the good ending until I've read the other 3. I think Mikoto's route could've been really good if it wasn't treated as a joke/bonus. Like how it would be to fall in love with someone you can't be with outside of dreams, people's reactions if Kimito tells anyone, etc.

>>17039845
where is the LN thread?

>>17040211
AoKana is actually really good?
I'm becoming increasingly tempted to play it.
Also I find it amusing that "crack" is in your filename.

>>17040384
I found it very long winded and boring. It's very much an average moege with its strongest point being the art. Take that as you will.

>>17040398
If it's an "average moege", what would you consider a top-tier moege then? I've only read 1 route so far, but based off that I'd rate it as one of the best pure-romance VNs I've read.

>>17040421
Island, J.Q.V., Kusarihime.

>>17040421
Would you say the same thing still if the art in Aokana looked like this?

Eiri's route in ひこうき雲の向こう側 is the best moege scenario I've read to date.

Conjueror said Oretsuba is the best moege there is.

>>17040431
vns are not for you

>>17040444
conjueror is stupid, oretsuba isn't moe game.

>>17040442
>Eiri's route in ひこうき雲の向こう側

One of my favorites as well.

>>17040431
I've only read one of those, but I'm not sure they fall under the classification of moege.

>>17040442
Well obviously if the art was worse it would be a worse VN, but I do think the writing is really good too. I really like the Kuru games as well, Watanabe is such fun to read.

>>17040482
>the classification of moege

That's not an easy one actually. What's a moege? More often than not people use this as a "this game has no plot whatsoever and is generally shallow as fuck, but hey: the girls are cute" synonym. Usual indicators being that it's relatively slice of life heavy with some forced bullshit drama towards the end.

In a way, moege is used a bit too negatively or degrading by some. Technically it should be games with their focus on "moe". However, few games we'd call moege really do so. Compare average moege to "moe anime". The difference is quite staggering.
So are there like themes that are taboo in a moege that make a VN something else? I kind of don't think so. I've seen life and death drama including some good old existential crisis in a VN that is considered a moege already.
So, what EXACTLY is a moege then? Some argue about atmosphere. But then how does something like an existential crisis work there? Is it fine if the atmosphere of a "moege" is only there in a certain part of the game? But then how would it be different from a nakige? It's not very straightforward.

Speaking of 蒼の彼方, where can I download this eroge now when nyaa is kill? Nyaa Pantsu is down, links on Anime-sharing are dead.

>>17040431
Jokes aside, Island is a bad moege. The drama is like in your average moege, sci-fi exist just to smooth out some stupid plot points and the MC is hetare just like in your typical moege.

>>17040689
Search on nyaa.si ?

>>17040689
or rutracker

>>17040641
I think you're overthinking it.
Moege can be degrading because it tells you out of the box that the game does nothing special. If the game has particularly good drama, or romance, or plot, or anything really it starts to transcends the "genre". Pretty much every single eroge has moe girls as foundation, even stuff like Subahibi or Eustia, but it's only a moege when it solely focuses on that and doesn't try for anything else. And imo games that adhere too closely to a genre/formula and consciously limit themselves aren't very good generally.

>>17040693
>>17040697
Thank you guys, found it.

>>17040718
I don't agree with this. I'd call AoKana a moege because the primary focus is on the romance with cute girls, but that doesn't make the competitive FC portions bad or generic, they're really unique and well written. They're just not the central theme of the VN.

>>17040718
>If it's good it's not a moege

A genre should not be like that. If you ask me it's not fine to say "it's a moege" because what it does is bad and only cute girls remain. I know that's how it is right now. But it's a bit unfortunate.

>>17040820
Well if you like the genre it's not bad. But it is, as said, purposefully limiting by its definition. When you break the limits, it's no longer inside the genre. If you look at the good and popular eroge, they generally can't be classified within a single genre and sometimes even fit into three or more.

>>17040843
you are retarted, please kill yourself

>>17040880
>retarted
Average moebuta.

Is there some basic norm or general rule for how long in advance companies usually announce exact release dates, or are they all over the place? I'm wondering if by 2017 Pixel Mint means we're getting to play Paradise Ocean later this summer or the fucking Christmas.

As for why you should care my fellow moebutas, しげた is the sole writer credited for scenario.

Are ItsuSora and Magical Charming the only good games Lump of Sugar has made?

>>17041181
Depend on what do you like, Imo original Tayutama and Hanairo heptagram were nice in their category as well.

And already done with Planet Dragon.

The gameplay was a bit too shallow. The trading simulation part wasn't really too interesting, given that you can literally buy at any price and sell it somewhere where the item isn't sold (aka almost everywhere) at any price, and you will make money. There is no "daily" expenses or anything that makes it important to make a lot of money, or really anything remotely giving this depth.
In exchange you have "battles", but those are also not very exciting, especially as you don't really need to fight most of the time. Towards the end of the game it'd need some luck to not get too sandwiched and get to the exit, but yeah. I suppose you could call it alright, given that it's a trading simulation, but given how that part kinda failed and half the customization of the ship is for battles.. I don't know.

Story isn't really worth talking about. I liked Ruu. But unlike Noroi no Maken's main girl she actually isn't quite that much in the focus. Interestingly, while she had like 6 unique h-cg, the main girl in Noroi no Maken had about 16. In exchange there are more sub characters and even completely random ero cg for characters that don't get named or have any importance. Weird choice. Then again, this doesn't really have routes either and isn't a long game. Although the additional time I spent with Noroi no Maken was probably more grinding than anything else so I'm not sure if Planet Dragon is actually really shorter.

>>17041162
Seems random. 延長 aren't uncommon either.

>>17041162
Probably too late for a summer release.

Name games I should delete to make more space on this HDD.

>>17042111
Whatever you've finished?

Also that's some seriously bad naming.

>>17042111

All "Baldr". All "Otome". All "Dies". That's a lot of space for just three series.

>>17042118
Nah, what I finished I liked and it's exactly what I want to keep forever.

Also I'm very happy with that naming, but I can see what's objectionable about it.

>>17040442
What's wrong with this? The ponytail girl looks great.

>>17042118
Actually he has a good naming setup. You can just press a letter on the keyboard to get to where you need to be. Can't do that with Japanese characters

>>17042111
>Mahoyo

>>17042131
>>17042140
Nah. Maybe the original shitty version of Dies irae, but I would like to check it one day for historical value, cause I really liked full Dies irae.

I guess this reveals the true problem. My list is already deleted through and through, so it's hard to find more to delete.

>>17042111
Thanks anon, time to organize my shit.

>>17042111
buy a new hdd

and do you guys really organize like this? i need jp names

>>17042111
>HelloWorld
>HeloLa
this actually gave me eye cancer

>>17042188
Mine has numbers in the filename so I'll be just removing them.

>>17042188

I'm too lazy to organize. So it's how it comes. Can't recommend.

>>17042188
I'm already used to this.

"I'm into older guys, not little virgin boys like you. I admit, you have some guts, buuut... you should really know your place."

I like her already. Didn't even realize he's in her class.
Will probably turn to shit within the next 5 minutes, but hey. Or it'll actually end up featuring some nice consensual hatesex... okay yeah who am I kidding. This will probably end up being little more than glorious voice-porn. The voice-cast of this game is pretty damn stellar in my opinion. So, I'm playing this. For now.

>>17042266
Best VA

>>17042266
If she isn't S during the H scenes and steps on the MCs dick this game is a kusoge.

>>17040444
>moege
Yeah right.

>>17042355
There is no S heroine in any eroge, they all lose to the dick in the end

>>17042570

She isn't S in this case anyway. I think. The protag and she just REALLY don't get along.. for now at least. It's one of those "forced into a fake-couple relationship because the alternative is even worse" kind of things.

>>17042719
Worse for her maybe, protag literally just cock blocks himself

>>17042266
Best girl. I liked how she started calling the protag emo-chan. Short for ero monster. There were rumours that he would be great in bed, because of his masturbation habits. And as expected that turns out to be true. And the confession scene was nice as well.

The game was quite fun to read as well, especially the common route. But, yeah, the individual routes are standard fare, no hatesex or anything. Every route is more or less just 7 sex scenes in quick progression with some forced drama.

And there are places where it is more or less obvious they have run out of budget and had to cut out a scene: in all four routes they went to a seaside (or lakeside?) villa, and in all four routes it was just some quick third person narration with sky in the background.

>>17042742

No, also worse for him. Some random girl spouting nonsense about "marriage" and having done "wife training" or whatever. You gotta be insanely desperate to find that situation appealing. That just reeks of throwing away any freedom you'd have way too early for some random girl you don't really know and is at most "kinda cute".. but still a fucking huge weirdo for going through with that stuff.

You could say the same for the other side as well btw. The possible partner for the other girl is a good looking well off man. Sure, quite a bit older and all but not necessarily a bad person. There are plenty of girls who'd go through with that. Rather desperate girls, but same thing as the guy's situation.

>>17042111
None of them, find ones with dead torrents and reupload them first.

>>17042266
>consensual hatesex
is there ANYTHING outside of nukige that does this or should I stop getting my hopes up forever?

>>17042770
No one would ever think someone was good in bed just because he masturbates all day. I can handle fantasy and magical elements but when writers clearly write characters reacting in nonsensical/unrealistic ways that only serve to mentally jack off the egos of people who self-insert into the MC it bothers me.

Where do I get よすのは? The magnets from Nyaa are dead and the copies on Share are dead and it's not on PD or rutracker. Am I gonna have to buy it?

>>17043402
>mentally jack off the egos of people who self-insert into the MC it bothers me
Yeah. I'm no VN elitist, I play flavor of the month moege and such, but sometimes the lengths some will go to make the protagonist seem like a cool guy etc. just makes me embarrassed or annoyed. It's hard, I say I'd prefer a protag with some kind of character/personality, but I'd rather play as a lifeless self-insert blob than have shit like that. I know it can be good escapism or whatever but I guess I have my limits.

>>17043444
よつのは*

>>17043517

Sometimes I think I like more proactive females and not too proactive protagonists because of that kind of stuff. The less proactive protagonist are less likely to be praised into the sky and whatnot.
What I actually like the most however is relationships on the same level. It's part of why I like yuri as well. Equal relationships are a much more common thing there. With VNs you often have the protagonist who helps girl x in a random way and some really weird one-dimensional "relationship" forms. Some games do a more equal relationship reasonably well, but yeah. (I hate to always bring up the pic related girl, but .. you know, she fits, but something like Leyline also works I'd say)

This artificial "look how awesome the protagonist is, and that is YOU" is often more cringy than anything else. If you've ever played a newer Persona game.. those are also filled to the brim with that. It's actually so much, it's already funny again. And I suppose you can also fuck up, which befittingly has the same reaction in negative. Gave a correct answer in the classroom? You are THE MAN, Hero and every girl wants you. Gave a wrong answer? Holy shit you fucked up so hard, what the hell are you even doing with your life, go away loser. Something like that. In eroge you can't really fuck up. And it's usually not done to the point it's funny again. So just the cringe remains for me.

>>17043444
get on ab

>>17043444
it's on clubbox

>>17043632
>ab
Not this shit again.

>>17043606
>What I actually like the most however is relationships on the same level.
That reminds me of something else I hate, and kind of goes hand in hand with the super awesome protagonist type. Sometimes I feel like games will make the protag seem like he's somehow... I don't know, above or better than the heroines. Like if he's constantly teasing them, h-scenes he turns into a sexual beast (even if he's supposedly a virgin too), they're constantly turning into blushing messes at every little thing and he's completely fine and is always composed, etc. At worst, sometimes it doesn't even feel like the protag really loves the girl.
I'm sure as hell not asking for straight-out hetare protags. Still, I don't know what it is exactly, but I just hate this type. And I don't want to self-insert into it. In a moege I want to experience a cute relationship with a cute girl. A cute girl, period, just isn't enough for me anymore.

>>17043670
Well put, I hate that as well. I found Key games, back when I dabbled in them, were really bad at this. It's real hard to imagine a proper relationship forming when you're constantly being fed this sort of "ha ha, she's so silly" feeling of superiority. It's like he's got a pet, not a girlfriend.

Equal relationships are the holy grail I keep chasing but apparently a lot of the eroge-reading audience isn't a big fan of that (though I can understand why). Something like the Araragi-Senjougahara relationship in the monogatari series, that one hits the spot for me.

Personally I really like "guy betters himself to impress the girl out of his league" but christ is that one ever a rare breed in vns.

I know what you mean though, and it sucks. Condescension is not a good way to get warm fuzzy relationship feelings. Maybe it'd be better if they stopped making the protagonist so fucking blase about everything? In order to make most common route stuff work he's usually dense as fuck and won't form any opinions on girls until the end of the common route, so you never get a sense anything they do affects him until "whoops I just remembered I always luvd u" at the very end.

So, common route done. This really is some good voice porn at times. Yuna has some fun lines to make the voice actress shine. It's a fitting role.

Totono spoilers, sort of.

Wow. This was something else.
I went for the Aoi end, and I sort of want to go along with the game and not read the Miyuki end. Is that stupid? Is Miyuki's end worth reading? Anyone else actually went along with the 二者択一 shtick and only read one end?

>>17043806
Be warned that Shion is a complete semen demon.

>>17043809
How can you even consider reading the other end? Do you have no sense of loyalty? That would be a betrayal to everything you went through with Aoi. Imagine how hurt and sad she'd be to see you abandoning her yet again, after swearing eternal love together.

I chose Miyuki and I know I'll never betray her again. Aoi's ending will remain the one thing in any VN I'll never read.

>>17043517
>>17043606
If the MC is actually a cool guy it really makes sense if the girls fall in love with him and people talk about him. But fuck, no one is going to be praising someone for his masturbation talents nonetheless. That's just stupid.

>>17043670
> they're constantly turning into blushing messes at every little thing and he's completely fine and is always composed, etc. At worst, sometimes it doesn't even feel like the protag really loves the girl.
Yeah, I hate this too. Sometimes I wish even the cool collected MC lost his cool around the heroine you pick. It would make it seem like he actually likes her instead of just having to deal and put up with her for sex. Especially if it's a heroine you really like, you want to see MC treat her right.

>>17043742
>being fed this sort of "ha ha, she's so silly" feeling of superiority
Damn, I definitely felt like that with Komari in Little Busters. It really felt like MC was talking to some brain-damaged girl (well, he was, but that's besides the point).
>Personally I really like "guy betters himself to impress the girl out of his league" but christ is that one ever a rare breed in vns.
That seems like something that would piss off most readers. The girl should just fall in MC's lap, right?

I completely agree with you on Senjougahara and Araragi though. I wish there were more dynamics like that in eroge, but then again it probably wouldn't work in the same way simply because of eroge conventions.

>>17043853
I get where you're coming from, but curiosity got to me and I read it anyway. In a way though, because I read Aoi's end first, I can out-meta the game by applying what happens in Aoi's end to the game itself and treat it like any other future VN I'll read to give myself some form of mental justification, however little, which is something that Miyuki-end players can't quite do, unfortunately.
But feel free to call me a lying, betraying piece of shit because that's who I am and who I will continue to be as long as I keep reading other VNs.

>>17043939
>Komari in Little Busters

With her it didn't help that her voice alone made it sound like you could count her brain cells on one hand. God she was so annoying.

Personally I also thoroughly enjoy equal relationships like all you guys have been saying. I wish they were more common.

I hate large nipples, I hate them so fucking much.

Who inverted nipples patrician taste here?

>>17044172
You're even worse than those literal homos like that Aoyama Yukari.

>>17043606
Speaking of this if anyone has nachsten Phase would you be able to seed it? Torrent seems to be stalled at 71.6% for everyone.

>>17042188
i organize by brand

>>17044166

>>17044172
A fellow man of refined tastes, I see.

>>17043444
Ended up getting it from anime sharing.

>>17040718
I disagree. Moege is when the primary focus is on the appeal of the heroines. You say as much but then you shit on the rest.

It's some sort of 'no true Scotsman' in reverse although I know there's some better way to to address the fallacy than that one. You're lumping anything that's shallow and bad into 'moege' after the fact. A moege is anything which advertises itself as a moege. If you read it and enjoy it as a drama, or as a historical piece, or a comedy, or as a thriller, too bad, you can't suddenly dump it out of moege and say 'well, guess that thriller wasn't a moege after all'.

I don't think having some cute design qualifies something as moege either. You can have cute girls being raped but it was never a moege. You can have cute girls in a drama piece but it was never a moege. You can have cute girl know you're aware of that but I thought I should mention it anyway.

Moege can be anything from Nekokawaigari to Magical Charming, so long as the heroines are the main focus even if it's a drama about cute girls dying it's still a moege.

>>17040442
>>17040471
Hopefully her character grows more distinct because right now she's reminding me of Ami but inferior (because what heroine can surpass Ami?)

>>17044366
>That fucking neck.
MY EYES

>>17042266
I fucking love this art syle
Especially the hair and the ripples on the clothes.
Name?

>>17042428
>Asian people known for small eyes
>big eyes
>Non-asians by default have larger eyes >regular sized eyes

流石

>>17042570
She'd like to have a word with you

>>17044522
I'd let her step on me. Does she continue like this for the whole game?

>>17044488
当然

but seriously it's more often related to age/sex than anything else

I like girls but I don't like vaginas unless they're puffy vulvas.

I guess that makes me into traps but they have a male bodies, so I guess that makes me into 男の娘 as they have female bodies. Even then I find it awkward from the penis.

In the end, I'll just try straight sex but ignore the vagina.
It's really weird.

>>17044546
Does that also explain how the Asian has blonde hair and red eyes.

>>17044548
That's pretty gay dude.

>>17044548
>I guess that makes me into traps but they have a male bodies,
If it's a trap then it has feminine body form. If it doesn't have feminine body form it's not a trap.

>>17039845
I'm way too dirty minded
I misread the kanji as something like
棒を逆さに気持ち
before realizing something was wrong

>>17044556
now you're just nitpicking how anime style shit isn't realistic, but i do wish more games used natural colors and had more varied heights instead of one loli and everyone else seemingly the same height

>>17044566
It feels like looking inside the human body.
I really don't know, sometimes it's appealing when it's shaped nice but not other times.

>>17044572
No, traps are boys wearing girls clothes, they don't biologically have female organs and their bodyp structure doesn't become female.
They still have things like an Adam's apple, they don't have tits, etc.

>>17044589
Gender appearance is not some binary thing. You don't look either masculine or feminine. There's a spectrum in between for pretty much every trait. Yes, there are in fact guys with tits. Not mammaries, but still tits. Almost flat chested, but still tits. There are genetic disorders that give otherwise ordinary men androgynous sexual characteristics, down to everything except what's between the crotch. Steroid use does the same thing.

Traps have feminine bodies. If they don't look like a girl when they're got the getup set up, they're not a trap. They're just a crossdresser, or they're trans.

>>17044589
Futanari looks like a dirty slut.
I mean look at that face.

She fucking knows.

>>17044589
>the more male he gets the smaller his penis becomes
???

>>17044589
>>17044600

>>17044600
Have you ever read anything containing a futanari where she doesn't have copious amounts of sex? I thought not.

>>17044650
i mean, what good is a dick if you don't use it?

ha ha oh, i made myself sad

Do you guys want to do some of these?
It could be fun.

>>17044811
Here's another I didn't expect this game to be as existential as it was.

>>17044811
Looks like I might have to pick this up.

>>17044811
That one's pretty good.

>>17044816
She was cute at the start of the game, and probably my favorite girl, after the confession she turns super bitchy I started regretting it. She get's better later on but by then I wanted the game to end. It was too much.

She also has a stupid reason for not wanting to hook up, after having a crush on you. Also it's not really a spoiler, I mean all childhood friends have crushes.

>>17044822
I fucking hate the art but it looks hot plus I love heart pupils.

How is it?

>>17044829
Only the last H-scene has heart pupils as I recall (in the first game anyway) so uh yeah.

>>17044811
Back when I played this I only did the pink haired girl's route

>>17044828
>after the confession she turns super bitchy

Huh, thats not what I was expecting. I thought her character would just be a kindhearted childhood friend thats a bit more bold and upfront than when she was younger just based what little ive seen of her in the common route and what the MC says about her in Rina's route. I really got to try her's and Misaki's route when I have the time.

>>17044811
I like her art but what the fuck

>>17044890
Welcome to my world.
I was really disappointed by how she did a 180.
I really expected her to act like what you thought, but got this>>17044811
She get's better later on but still it's really not what I expected.

>>17044815
I don't recognize this one, where's it from?

>>17044900
otome domain

>>17044900
Otome Domain, the girl's name is Hinata, her route involves whether to continue being who she is or be who everybody wants her to be and be normal.
She ends up not knowing who she is and loses her mind.

The resolution really surprised me and feels kinda meta in a way.

>>17020887
https://mega.nz/#F!BNwkzaYA!8xWB3A21UyMSuntue7cSiA

[080404] [KIDSDR Project(サイバ-フロント)] インフィニティ Plus Never7

>>17044811
Not mine but found it somewhere

>>17044363
>so long as the heroines are the main focus even if it's a drama about cute girls dying it's still a moege.
This post is just objectively wrong on every level. Guess WA2 and Eustia are moege because they focus on heroines, right? You don't know the difference between 美少女ゲー and moege, that's all.

>>17045026
>>17045026
What's 美少女ゲー then?
Games with beautiful women?
That sure narrows it down.

You really can't specify these things that well, especially when they happen to be a mixture of different genres and can fall under different categorizations.

>>17045054
Who was talking about narrowing anything down? Just pointing out that you/the guy can't differentiate between the two. Other than that your post makes no sense and doesn't contribute anything to the discussion.

>>17045063
I'm saying you can't really narrow things down and don't really have to specify something to a genre like moege and charage which is kinda vague to begin with.
Sakura no Uta sure wouldn't be considered a moege even though it does have light heated, cute and moe moments as it tends to be more plot heavy making it plotge and since the plot is determined by going after characters its charage, not only that all of the routes are categorized and shaped by beautiful girls rather than something like a Kei route, so it's also bishojoge.
It's pretty much all of these, however moege seems to cancel out as it's more plotheavy and not as light hearted despite having moege qualities.

>if it's a drama about cute girls dying it's still a moege.
Pretty much can be true, it can be utsuge/moege, nakige/moege and so on.
Think of KarenaiSekai, clannad and so-on.
You don't even have to end up with the girl to be a moege like ShinAiKanojo.
Things like DracuRiot have an amazing plot but is still considered a moege.
People just tend to push moege with degeneracy like with 'uguu kawaii' characters and don't really focus that a game can have tons of moe moments and be decent yet still call itself a moege.

>>17045119
>utsuge/moege, nakige/moege and so on.
Do you not see the problem with this? Genres exist to make classifications easier. When you call something a utsu/moe/horror/thriller/rape/gore-game that goes out of the window.
A moege is always a 美少女ゲー, but a 美少女ゲー is not necessarily a moege. Clannad is pretty much the #1 representative of the term nakige. Does it have girls and SoL? Yes, so does every other 美少女ゲー. Moege is just a subgenre within that that mainly focuses on, well, moe, and moves within certain boundaries that have come to be standard in the formula. When you break out of that formula you step out of the subgenre and go into the wider, all-encompassing genre.

>>17044436

It's the filename. Search it on vndb.

>>17045173
I'm gonna say the opposite, having more helps classify it.
>utsu/moe/horror/thriller/rape/gore-game
Never seen moe and rape together (nobody correct me), but yeah classification helps allow people to find something they want easier and can help specifiy on things like vndb.
Want an nakige?
Try Hatusyuki, Clannad, etc.
Well that's a big list how about Nakige and horror?
I'd get Hatsuyuki and Clannad and others would be left out.
We get classifications to help know what something is.
>Moege is just a subgenre within that that mainly focuses on, well, moe, and moves within certain boundaries that have come to be standard in the formula. When you break out of that formula you step out of the subgenre and go into the wider, all-encompassing genre.
True, but that doesn't make something not really a moege anymore just people won't really consider it "as much".

>>17044811

>>17045199
>Never seen moe and rape together (nobody correct me)
LC1, Yuni's bad end.

>>17045250
Elaborate?

>>17045253
MC snaps after a route of emotional cockblock because
>let's pretend we're dating while also fucking and stuff!
And he basically goes yandere and rapes her, she loves him but it's rape.

>>17045250
Another example is the original Majikoi, Chris's route

>>17045247
Never read this but I'm assuming the guy gets raped and this is only said to get the reader to reminisce it and feel bad rather than only for romantic purposes.
I mean I've yet to see rape used other than shock value. Even then it's a pretty shoddy and cheap one. You can chuck a rape in anything and it makes the writing more 'mature' and better. Like telling a story out of order or going back to a previous time before the story began to fix up holes or tell key points.
They're effective cheap techniques but they work.

Still it's so cute how she waited for him.
Are there any other eroge that the girl out right says she waits for him?

>>17045262
Doesn't really feel like rape, more like pseudo-rape.
>>17045275
Explain.
I'll never touch Majikoi.

>>17045295
>more like pseudo-rape.
I'm pretty sure if one of the parties ends up crying on the floor while saying
>I'm sorry
>it shouldn't have been like this
It's rape.

>>17045275
You mean when she was deeply in love with him and 3 seconds in she starts to enjoy it and screams for his semen inside her womb?

People have really weird definitions of rape.
>>17045295

>>17045295
Any reason for that? Whatever the sequels might be, the original Majikoi is undoubtedly a really good charage.

Anyway, Chris is going to head back to Germany so MC's plan to get her to change her mind is to sneak into her room at night, tie her up, and forcibly have sex with her despite her asking him to stop repeatedly. Of course she enjoys it by the end so I guess by some people's definition >>17045302 it's not rape.

>>17044811

At least in terms of what I ended up making screenshots of.

>>17044548
Most people who like traps are mentally damaged. They're uncomfortable with women, probably because how they were treated in real life, to the point that they turn pseudo gay. I mean, once you're saying male buttholes are cleanlier and more appealing than vaginas, and still complaining you're straight there is clearly some deep-seated issue.

>>17045630
I just don't like most vaginas.
Unless they are puffy.

I also don't like male butts, I'm not sure where you got that from. I also said it's awkward from the penis is awkward.

So all I basically said is I don't like vaginas, and don't like male bodies including the penis.
My pic was just something I found, in case you're taking it seriously.

>>17044811
That's exactly why I loved here.

Most people who like 3d women are mentally damaged. They're uncomfortable with anime, probably because how they were treated in real life for watching it, to the point that they turn pseudo straight. They clearly have some deep-seated issue.

>>17045630
You play fucking eroge, you aren't in a position to talk about mental damage.

>>17045676
There are plenty of people who play eroge that aren't neckbeard basement dwellers. Stop being a fucking stereotype.

>>17045682
Personally I consider people who don't play eroge to be mentally damaged. Eroge are so clearly superior to every other form of entertainment and every other thing you can devote your life to that if you aren't an eroge fan you clearly have some deep-seated issue.

>>17045682
>There are plenty of people who play eroge that aren't neckbeard basement dwellers

Maybe, but how many of them aren't lonely?

Though I think there's more "normal people who read eroge" in Japan than in the west.

>>17045721
I would say people who read VNs as a main hobby are less likely to feel lonely than normal people, anyhow. It's hard to feel lonely while constantly being surrounded by hot anime babes and dating the best of them.

>>17045733

So you say, but then another shitstorm starts because girl x has no route in moege y. Can't even handle a single fictional girl being out of reach.

>>17045768
How am I supposed to add them to my captured heroines count if they don't have a route?!

>>17045768
Is that really a symptom of loneliness? I'd say it's more butthurt than anything.

>>17045777

I'd say it goes hand in hand. It's normal to want more of a character you like. But wanting specifically a route goes way past that. It probably reminds a lot of people of reality, of how girls may not like you, are out of reach, how lonely they are and so on. Thus butthurt.

Sure, it's all relative. But people who seriously can't take a character being out of (romantic) reach.. are probably lonely and heavily rely on eroge to "fix" that.

>>17045682
Then stop assuming things about people who like traps.

>>17044540
Yeah. That's the last scene. She makes the MC believe she lost to the dick at some point but the ending twist is that she never did. The individual routes are short, sadly.

>>17044522
>>17045906
Thanks, I will be picking this up. I wouldn't expect that game to have an S heroine at all.

Upcoming games I'm interested in:

タンテイセブン
https://digitalcute.com/detective7/

景の海のアペイリア
http://www.silkysplus.jp/game/apeiria/index.html

星降る夜のファルネーゼ
http://miti.jp/index.php

消えた世界と月と少女
http://hiyoko-soft.com/main.html

ヤミと祝祭のサンクチュアリ
http://azarashi-soft.nexton-net.jp/sanctuary/

>>17046143
ok

>>17046143
Good picks anon

>>17046143
>タンテイセブン
>5 MB scenario
No thanks

>>17046143
new silky artis is shit

>>17046241
Are you in a rush?

>>17046268
Looking at the writer's past work do you think it'll be worth 80 hours?

>>17046288
Perhaps not, but I can always drop it partway.

>>17046300
Looking at the writer's past work do you think it'll be worth 40 hours?

>>17046301
Perhaps not, but I can always drop it partway.

>>17046301
You won't even spend 20 hours on it before finishing it. Scenario sizes are inflated.

>>17044589
>traps are boys wearing girls clothes
You don't call someone a trap if he looks like a filthy abomination in girls' clothes.

Best tomboy heroines? Bonus points if the plot doesn't involve her becoming more "girly".

Is this girl a Jew? Was her turning into stone some kind of golem hint?

>>17046928
Is this worth playing? That girl is a fucking cutie.

>>17046950
As of now? Not really. Wait for more episodes to come out first and ask again.

>>17046736

Obviously Rina from Tonak...

>Bonus points if the plot doesn't involve her becoming more "girly".

Never mind. Although it's a good game if you want to get really mad at an author for trying really hard to ruin a character.

Are there any games that have plots that are really confusing either intentionally or unintentionally, and the game doesn't try to explain itself? Like, a more extreme version of the "It's my own Invention" chapter in Subahibi.

>>17047023
Saihate no Ima, 2/5 of the game is missing.
There's also Forest by liarsoft.

Shiju Hachi, for ps2. It was a collection of very awkward stories.

>>17046950
Didnt read it myself but I heard from tons of different places that the game feels like a "trial" than an actual game so almost every person is suggesting to wait for other episodes.

>>17047023

https://vndb.org/v7272 seems to be that way. No idea if you can even still get it, nor did I try this myself. Maybe generally try some tag combinations similar to that VN or smth.

>>17047043
Forest does kind of explain itself though, even if it takes a while before you get a grip on why exactly everything is going all "Intro to British Children's Lit. On All Of The Drugs 101"

if the /lit/ gods will forgive me for the blasphemies I am about to utter, it's written and structured much more like the stuff people call Literature with a capital L than like a porn powerpoint. The things that are happening on-screen are not necessarily literally what is happening, so much as they represent conflicts, states of mind, relationships between characters, etc.

t. wannabe english lit major

>>17047074
In the past this was uploaded in this thread.

How was that elf nukige drawn by Aoi Nagisa?

>>17047437
Fantastic.
At times there's too much attention given to a boring story and the lack of pregnancy is a massive blunder but overall, it's great for fans of vanilla, elves, and big tits.

>>17047023
Shoin? The game explains itself by the end, but it's so fun without a walkthrough.

Anyone know where to find https://vndb.org/v7595 at? The torrent is stalled partway through and all the baidu links I could find were dead.

>>17047514
Rutracker?

>>17047517
Thanks anon I found another torrent so hopefully this one doesn't stall.

>>17047437
Well I've played the majority of the game's routes and all the heroines are nice, some are better than others, though. If I had to choose a favourite it would be the tomboy elf.

With this line alone, this VN is most other VNs ahead in time. I mean sure, Japan and all, and the trope can still be fun (hello Noraneko and "grimoire of life"), but times do change.

>>17047648
Digital books are shit quality-wise and they have DRM.

>>17047704

This is just about lewds.

>>17047648
yeah but how's a girl supposed to check under your bed for porn mags when you keep it all in a 'things/dontclick/cp' folder on your computer?

>>17047859
In a way having it on your computer is more dangerous

>>17047922
Having Mihaya as a sister is the real dangerous part.

>>17047715
Well, my post is about freedom.

>>17047922

I'm actually currently waiting to see if this backfires here. Protag is confident. But the girl is actually quite a nerd herself, playing something like kancolle, playing VNs... she is a dangerous one. Although some of her "manga knowledge" and such can be slightly weird. But tells you what kind of stuff she reads.

Reminds me I also read once a game, where the protag's porn was all deleted by his mom.. or rather his mom's face was attached on all pictures and stuff. I think that was Supreme Candy..? Good stuff.

>>17047953
>his mom's face was attached on all pictures and stuff
Good lord that is some next level horror.

How's the banter/interactions in that one anyway? I used to quite like studio ryokucha for their fun group dynamics but minamiwhatever was a real letdown and I haven't touched anything by them since.

>>17047968

So far I feel this is very much a "one route" game. Not necessarily because all but one girl are unlikeable or something, but simply because of how the plot works and how much "best girl" Yuna is. Her voice actress also helps, although the game generally has a VERY high tier cast to the point this shouldn't be an advantage.

That said, so far I have a lot of fun with her. My only complaint is really Shion. I don't like her and don't think she really fits into the cast very well. A more haughty "be happy I'll be marrying you! HO HO HO HO" ojou-sama as a fiancee would've worked better with the setting and theme I think. But then again, for me that hardly matters on the long run as I doubt I'll be reading more than Yuna's route for a good while anyway. I like her too much. Okay, maybe if it crashes heavily which could be.


That said, I can't say much about other game's by the dev as I only tried Hanikami Clover before and that was really really really bad if you ask me. Same writers. No idea how this works, but hey. Probably something to do with general character themes and whatnot.

>>17048044
neat, thanks. I liked Koiiro Soramoyou a fair bit even if it had a rather drawn-out common route with some dumb drama, the cast was excellent and the girls were all fun.

damn, I'll never find a proper ohoho route, will I.

>>17048044
>I can't say much about other game's by the dev
Do give 恋色空模様 a try, it's far away their best game. Their stuff since then never came even close

>>17042428
that tracksuit is clearly pointing out 萌 though

https://mobile.twitter.com/rask_soft/status/865470256080330752?p=v
So it seems like Re:LieF won the best scenario for 2016 in the moege award. Iam not sure about this, since I think it should have been gone to Akikuru but Re:LieF was really ambitious work though and I really liked it despite the obvious weak writing in many part. The game had a nice message and a heartwarming ending with a godlike artwork.

>>17048124
Well that gives me some hope I guess. I found the writing really dull but admittedly I have only gone through the first 6 hours or so.

>>17048124
Akikuru had a lot of issues too plus it's three times the size in length. At least ReLief is over really quickly.
>>17048152
All the good stuff is in the true route.

>>17048124
>since I think it should have been gone to Akikur
It falls apart the moment you even get into the routes, hard.
Basically dropping every single serious and interesting part for romcom didn't work.
And if nothing else, re:lief's pacing was really good, it was short but I was never bored with it.

speaking of Re:Lief, what are some games with top tier art

>>17048333
Niijuuei

>>17044811
I love puns, the MC says them and she bursts out laughing so much she begs him to stop.

>>17045199
One: To the Radiant Season is technically nakige, but has proto-KEY moe elements. There's an easily missable bad end where the MC ends up forcing the heroine Nanase to do sex she's uncomfortable with while he is in despair over his presence fading away from the world (if I'm remembering correctly). She then leaves in disgust, presumably for good.

I also think that MC tried to trick his childhood friend into being molested/raped by random schoolmates because he went into retarded denial about seeing her in a romantic light. He comes back for her in the end, but ehh.

>>17044828
>She was cute at the start of the game, and probably my favorite girl, after the confession she turns super bitchy I started regretting it
I guess they were going for realism with this game, huh.

>>17047704
Superior pirated versions have no DRM

>praising re:lief
Huh? Conjueror and moogy really trashed it. It's not good.

>>17049746
Now you did it. You just had to go and name he who must not be named.

Who's moogy?

>>17048124
I can see why people would enjoy Re:Lief's scenario, but how in the fuck did Maitetsu also win a 金賞 for scenario?

>>17044811

>>17047023
What you need to read is Omegaの視界 シキのはじまり／未解封のハコニハ

>>17048333
Amatsutsumi

>>17050323
Obligatory Hotaru best girl.

>>17040442
Were you trolling me?
I'm pretty far in the common route and it's been very bland so far. I went in with the mindset "this is a good game" so I even had a positive bias for it, but as time when on I kept thinking "wait... isn't that bad?" over and over until I finally came to recognize it as mediocre. Maybe the route are better? But so far the common route is very bland. Same old comedy SOL, meh characters... it's not bad but far from what I would expect someone's "best moege scenario" to be.

>>17050426

Not that guy and I haven't read that game, but I'd imagine he specified that route alone for a reason. Coupled with the fact that quality differences between common routes and heroine routes can often be large I would say its certainly feasible for her route to be great even if you think the common route is iffy.

>>17050441
It's all one writer, so I don't expect him to level up in the character route. But I won't judge something I haven't read. I just don't have high hopes for it.

>>17050426

>>17050426
Exactly this >>17050441. Eiris route is by far the best part of the game with one of the most satisfying epilogues you'll come across. The other routes are pretty bad imo so just skip them and do hers at the very least before judging.

>>17050523
I'm not really interested in dating her though. The common route made me feel more "bleh" about her than anything. I think I'm just going to drop the game, having finished the common route just about. I'm kind of curious to see how a boring as hell common route could transition into one of the best epilogues, but I've lost all interest in the game through those grueling hours of dull common route SOL.

>>17050550
>voting on games youve finished zero routes of
baka

>>17050673
I don't idealize vndb votes as any meaningful, objective source to be respected. I read a game, I vote how I feel about it when I'm personally finished with it.

>>17050673

That's fine though. I mean 5 or 10 minutes are one thing, but if someone really tries to read a VN and they can't get into it, that's worth preserving.

I don't vote anything myself ever, but if I look at votes, I wouldn't want just people who finished it. That'd be way too skewed. Especially for long games. Everyone who finishes a given game (or in many cases even just a route) has at least a certain amount of positive impression about it. Honestly, I can see "certain routes only" positive votes to be more of a problem. It's part of why I don't like to rate VNs. How am I supposed to rate something where I really enjoyed my one play-through but don't want to read the other x routes?

>>17050673
There need to be a way to warn away others, kinda wish votes on vndb had comments

This must be really painful to read for those people who like side girls. Not only do they make this really cute, slightly cheeky but hard-working girl and then not give her a route, they constantly make fun of how she's not a main heroine.

>>17050783
>painful to read for those people who like side girls
Every goddamn VN

>>17050741
Every vote would need some kind warning. Tons of vndb votes are from unfinished playthroughs, MT, based on art, etc. All comments would do is show you why VNDB votes are unreliable.

>>17050741
You can add notes to a game, though it doesn't show when watching the scores for a game, it only shows when looking at the scores of a user list. You can also specify if you finished or dropped the game.
Yes, the score system is a weak point of vndb. It was thought more like only a database of titles, not as a social site ala MAL...

>>17050815
>votes are unreliable
>the score system is a weak point of vndb
What other quick system is there? Any other conveniently quick way to see if something is worth looking into?

>>17050864
There isn't. Word of mouth, actual wtitten egs reviews, the staff (i.e. writer)... that's all you got. Sucks but did you really think a single number on vndn was a good way to judge a game?

>>17050864

If you are against trying things yourself and have not much knowledge about authors and such.. EGS? But that's kinda the "well, duh" things. If you want reviews, go to EGS. Just like all votes it's not necessarily perfect though. Unless you are super "eroge mainstream". Things can get low resonance because it's a bit short or because it features content that your average eroge reader doesn't appreciate. I still find it kinda funny how my opinion about Konosora ended up being pretty much inverted from the common opinion. Happens sometimes.

Suffers same face but still
CUTE
https://youtu.be/to3j2b-vlDc

>>17051290
>Mc has no face
No
I get self inserting but I'm experiencing somebody else's romance, i don't need to self insert to feel.
I at least want to look hot.

>>17051296

How about looking cute?

>>17044811

>>17045456
She will NTR you in her route

>>17045845
As someone who doesn't really self insert with VNs or anything, I just like seeing the characters progress, be happy, and have their story fleshed out. Sometimes a side character is more entertaining and appealing to me as a character than some of the main characters, so it's natural that I'd want to see more of that character, just that in a VN that usually means the MC romancing that character along the way, which I suppose is still nice because you get to see that side of her.

I would be fine with a "best friend" route where you help each other out with your hardships you both go through or even each others' relationships/crushes, with there being pretty much no romantic feelings whatsoever between the MC and friend.

My feelings may be different from the average reader though. I don't really care that much about the ero/romance part of eroge, I'm just a weeb who likes cute anime girls (and/or a nice story).

>>17051670
I do enjoy the romance aspect and often read vns solely for that purpose but I'm with you on the 'best friend' route part, especially if the game has a large cast. I don't like having only two people get to be happy while everyone else is miserable (and since no other eligible dudes exist in the universe they will be unloved and single forever).

I guess now I have a reason to not kill myself until november.

>>17051709
I never knew I had an armpit fetish until this game.

>>17051662

But she has no route. Whatever may happen in the sequel nobody knows yet, regardless of what may've been "announced". Not sure if I even want to read it, as I don't think the game really needed an actual sequel. Depends on how the month will end up being I guess.

Someone can help me with my download seeding this vn magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6RGLAW3ESIRVQ2SSWVQ2YZNYCSNPT5LK&dn=%5B120224%5D+%5B3rdEye%5D+?????????~menuet+of+epistula~+DummyCut+%2B+OST+%2BDramaCD+%2B+update&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fsukebei.tracker.wf%3A8888%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Foscar.reyesleon.xyz%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.cyberia.is%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.doko.moe%3A6969&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.baka-sub.cf%3A80%2Fannounce ? Please, I need some seeds.

>>17051958
Go away Brazilian machine translator.

>>17051958
>machine translator
kek

>>17051972
>machine translator
kek

Please help https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/115399

Remember to fight the EOP hordes who will come raiding after Dies Irae release. They'll come to shitpost. Don't hesitate to put them back in their place.

>>17052016
Nice try EOP-trying-to-fit-in, but irae isn't capitalized.

>>17052019
>but irae isn't capitalized

>>17052019
That's exactly what I'm talking about, my dude

>>17052016
How do you pronounce Dies irae? Answer in katakana please.

>>17052053
ディエス・イラエ

>>17052053
DESU IREAU

>>17050081
Do you have a link to that one? Or else, do you know what length does the demo cover?

How come every time there is scat in an eroge, it's the nastiest shit in existence? You'd think scatfags would appreciate some refinement

>>17052507
What do you mean? It's nasty by definition, there's no way to make shit elegant. Unless you have like a scene where the girl does ballet and during the spin around thing she shits all over herself or something? Dunno.

>>17052531
No, I mean nasty as in if you saw the pile of shit you'd think a grizzly was close by

>>17051843
They'd have to be morons as everyone was asking for a route. And well, it's a market so it's never about whether it "needs" a sequel but if it'll make money or not.

>>17052561

Yeah, but I don't care about the market when I decide what I want to read myself. Can't read everything anyway.

As for morons.. I don't know. I don't think the main-story was ever really compatible with different routes. So I'm quite worried about this sequel as well. Even if there is a Nobuchina route, that character was in part so great because she wasn't a heroine. We'll need to wait and see if she can keep her charm in an actual route and if that route itself is actually good then.

>>17052634
>that character was in part so great because she wasn't a heroine
such is the danger of the can't-haves, most of the time no-route heroines are great because they don't have 4-6 hours devoted to dumping on everything that was good about them with bleh drama, making their personalities do a complete 180.

>>17052647

Nobuchina is also a bit of a special case in that she is relevant all the time, not really less so than other heroines on average. She just doesn't have a dedicated route, her job is something else and she does it very well. And a route with "just that" would be kinda tough, though luckily she has an interesting.. family background one could build upon for some fun in a different way. But like I said, we need to wait and see.

I miss Nasu...

>>17052765
I'm pretty sure that he is not dead yet.

>>17052772
Tsukihime remake started in 2007, Mahoyo came out in 2012, CCC came out in 2013...
Unless the Japanese government bans gacha games I don't think he's coming back.

>tons of people read and liked Nora Neko
>barely anyone has read the author's best work, Humanity
It's sad, if understandable, to see.

>>17052816
But you weren't even dedicated enough to run it on a VM to actually finish it yourself!

>>17052816
Humanity? More like literallywhomanity

>>17052845
I'm the guy that uploaded it, not the guy that needed it and couldn't run it. I played it through to completion.

>>17052858
But the guy who uploaded it wasn't able to run it.

>>17052867
I uploaded it for that guy. Not sure what happened there.

>>17052894
D-Do you have dissociative identity disorder Quof?

>>17052816
This was made in 2010? Backgrounds like like those 3D architectural pictures from the 90's

>>17052909
I'm not whoever Quof is

>>17052909
I'm not quof. Not sure who the other guy who responded is, but he's not me either.

>>17051958
Just get it off baidu

>>17052913
It is a doujin game after all.
>>17052944
>>17052953
It's fine Quof, you'll return to your normal self again after you unload to some big tittied elves, just like usual.

>>17045630
Not the anon you replied to, but I'm bisexual and I'm into both traps and reverse-traps. Not uncomfortable with women, just like traps more.

>>17052995
I'm not Quof though.

What's with the obsession with Quof?

>>17053015
whatsup quof

Is there any other VN that has anything close to yu-no's nonlinearity? This is some amazing shit for real. I want more.

>>17053681
Clannad had a ton stuff in it, some outright hidden like minigames.

>>17053681

Magical Charming has a system that's fucking annoying but a few hidden things are here and there for sure to find with it.

Tojita Sekai no Tori Colony has a whole lot of random "endings/routes" you can get. It's not what you play the game for, but it's it is part of the longest chapter.

Certain gameplay games can be like that. The first Rance remake for example, you can find a lot of little (and bigger) things that are totally optional. Generally Softhouse Chara games should mostly work as well. For example Noroi Maken is based around you figuring out how the fuck the flags work. If you want to get all scenes without help, good luck.

Something like Natsumegu has a system where most of the "common" route are random events. Basically you get randomly events out of a bigger pool and that's your common route. It's not that necessarily something hidden with branches or anything, but you need to go a little out of your way to get all. Though it's not that difficult to collect all starting from your second playthrough, as you can "shuffle" drawn random events as much as you want, until you get something you didn't have yet.


That's what comes to mind right now. There's probably more. However few devs really hide away stuff. It's much more common in gameplay including games, which yu-no is kind of part of as well I suppose.

>>17053681
If you mean the A.D.M system. No. There's nothing like it.

I finished Mutsuki's route in Sayonara wo Oshiete.
It was pretty bittersweet.
Think I need to read a moege or something to refresh myself.

Does anyone know how to fix the text issues with 平安亭 games?

Man, the more I play Japanese games, the more I appreciate my country's second amendment. God bless.

>>17046143
>消えた世界と月と少女
Just saw this on my twitter feeds. So they just came out of their grave and is doing a joint with La'cryma huh?

https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=TOvsxOJfsdI
Not sure about the game, but the Engrish is amusing, heh.

What do you think of this big breasted Holstein?

身体が・・・勝手に！

Why is https://vndb.org/r47123 of World End Economica rated 17+ while the others are all ages?

>>17054066
I think that head is fucking square.

God I cannot express how much I fucking hate when I get to a correct conclusion the MC hasn't arrived. It feels like I have to deal with a retard that's dragging me and the whole story down.

Come on writers. If your reader is too ahead of your MC, maybe you should re-evaluate shit a little bit.

>>17052804
To be fair, the serious stuff Nasu actually writes in FGO is pretty on point.
And maybe I'm easily wowed, but how they've actually been using gameplay mechanics as a minor story telling element has been pretty nice.
It's still a piece of shit, but it's not all bad.

>>17054286
>Scenario heavy VN
>MCs manages to snoop on "guy you don't like" and yakuza trying to setup your waifu
>MC literally snoops along a journalist who is taking FUCKING PICTURES of the gathering
>next day, MC confronts "guy you don't like"
>"guy you don't like ask for proof"
>MC can't think of anything

When you're scream "THE JOURNALIST'S PICTURES YOU FUCKING DUMBASS" screaming at MC's retarded actions you know you fucked up bad.

>>17054325
What VN is this?

>>17054325
Personally I could only think of the underboob.

>>17054325
I almost killed myself during that whole route. How can an MC be so based for 80% of the game and shit the bed so hard at the same time?

>>17054237
It's more of a pentagon though

Started 紙の上の魔法使い. And whoa, It's been a while since I found characters to be so unlikable. The main grill really asks for a punch.

>>17054867
Yoruko is kind of a shit until later so that's understandable but if you hate Miracle and Kanata at this point you are beyond hope.

>>17054877
I can put up with her and the imouto being selfish bitches if the story has reserved some hellish retribution.

>>17054918
Careful what you wish for.

>imouto is a selfish bitch
you and i cannot be friends

>>17053681
>>17053817
Aoiro Rinne is often mentioned as similar.

>>17055029
Hey, don't forget he just started. Remember at the very start of the VN imouto pretends to be cold and unfriendly. Although even then I still liked her, she was at least fun and playful, not boring like Yoruko.

>>17054867

I'd say the characters are the sole point making it somewhat worth playing. Especially Yoruko. You can try and wait till finishing chapter 2, but if you are still not giving a damn about her then, I'd say abort.

Is 幻創のイデア worth it if you liked Sorcery Jokers?

>>17055590
Yes but don't expect it to be as good

>>17055590
>>17055595
Is Sorcery Jokers good?

>>17055598
Even planning to reread it at some point.

>>17055598

When I started it, the CHUUNI was pretty heavy and made me quit after 5 minutes. So you definitely should be into chuuni. I myself will try another work of them first that supposedly doesn't feature too many battles before I jump into something where I get a headache 5 minutes in.
I myself don't really like battles too much in a novel. However the potential conflicts are fine. I quite enjoyed Fortissimo for example, although I didn't give much of a shit of the chuuni battles themselves. At least those had awesome music and the battles themselves where never really too predetermined. So even with the crappy chuuni formula of "but wait, I just happen to have this never used ability that counters all of yours" going back and forth till someone wins, it was still kinda interesting. And the best for me was the reasons why the characters ended up fighting, possible discussions based on it and so on. But I guess that may not be so important for others who really like such battles themselves.

>>17055673
I really liked Dies irae, so it's safe to say I'm into chuuni and discussions about why characters fight.

Would you say SJ is at least close to DI?

>>17055714
Nothing that isn't written by Masada is close to Masada.

>>17055714
The villains in SJ aren't as great, but the fights are much closer to earth and more interesting.

>>17055598
Just to write another opinion, I read SJ for about 10 hours and found it pretty bland, the cast in general is weak and the writing is light in a bad way.
The pov change was a good idea that didn't work well, you have to go through the boredom of haruto or the annoying asahi to get to senri that isn't even that good
It's in line with Fortissimo aka fast food tier chuuni

Also I completely disagree with the fights being more interesting than DI, their styles are extremely different of course with DI being pretty literally a battle opera but the fight of SJ are the quintessence of the shonen jump type battles, you'll like them if you enjoy trashes like Index I guess

>>17055816
It's quite a few levels above fortissimo.

>>17055395
>but if you are still not giving a damn about her then, I'd say abort.
I finished it and outright disliked Yoruko, couldn't give two shits about her.

Saw this at a fighting game tournament today. It belongs to a well-known Japanese player. Quite unexpected but it's kinda cool to see.

>>17056346
Was it Ogawa

>>17056585
Well no, it was Tachikawa.

>>17056346
Did you say "konchiva" to him?

>>17056712
There was a handful of people keeping him busy, so no.

>>17056346
What game are those characters from? Looks familiar but I can't remember where they're from.

>>17058055
It looks like AoKana.

So I'm playing a ~14 years old game here.

-Has sort of lipsync
-Some other minor animation like with eyes on some sprites, or some moving clouds and a few other things
-Sprites for all of it's 30+ character big cast
-Fully voiced (so far) aside of protag
-minigames

Sometimes I really wonder how the heck we came to the current day eroge. Sure minigames don't need to be in any game, and I'm glad I can save at any point now (you can only do at finished days in Maple Colors), but still... if it weren't for the piss tiny resolution the game would beat most new VNs in terms of presentation. Kind of makes you think. Though of course not all games were like that back then either.

>>17058505
Well most of them really don't affect the sales so currently most of companies are seeing them as unnecessary waste of money. For example I'm pretty sure having lipsync or little animations wouldn't make you buy a game, or not having them wouldn't make you stop from buying one either. Only having a big cast can affect sales in that list, but its kind of gamble. Sure it'll affect the sales but there'll be big affects at the cost of game as well.

So yeah where can i fnd vpk files for psvita.
I want to try the hatsuyukisakura vita edition that came out in march.
Also chaos child.

>>17058607
Also want to say the art of the 完全生産限定版 version of Hamasaki workspring looks atrocious.

>>17058594

If presentation wouldn't sell, Minori wouldn't exist. Nor would emote be starting to be a thing.

I'm not really sure what the reason for this is, but if I had to guess.. this stuff takes work and knowledge. You can just hire a few people to do static art and text as well as music. Even someone without much computer knowledge can then put that together into a 0815 VN.
Including more technical things like lipsync and emote is something I'd assume few companies feel "capable" of doing. You can even look at akb2 with their latest cation release. That's a relatively big eroge company. Hiring people who know there shit with programming, engines, graphics and whatnot costs money and it may not be worthwhile to keep someone like that contracted all the time either.. or something like that.

Just speculation on my part though. I do however think that good presentation is worth A LOT. And that's not just lipsync, but also having the sprites do a little more like in the kururu games.

>>17058607
I just found out Nyaa pantsu has tons of vita games in jp

But not hatuyuki sakura except in chinese (中文版).
I didn't know they translated it to Chinese...

Does anyone know where i can get a copy of Axanael? all of the links on nyaa pantsu are dead. Is that where you all get your vns from (since the good nyaa died)?

Have you guys tried Root letter?
How was it?
I've been thinking of trying that for a while.

>>17058753
It's the worst game by the company don't bother.

>>17058763
I think you forgot Tokyo Necro

>>17058055
>>17058103
Yeah, it's Aokana.
Source: https://yande.re/post/show/358825

>>17058763
>anime-sharing
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/hentai-games-38/japanese-%5B101217%5D%5Bnitroplus%5D-axanael-%7C-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B6%E3%83%8A%E3%82%A8%E3%83%AB-314464/

or try girlchelly nemu haruka for eroge.

New thread?
this thread is autosaging

>>17058895
meant to reply to>>17058753

>>17058901
/jp/ is a slow board so we only create a new thread at page 10 newfriend.

>>17058901
Its not going anywhere anytime soon, anon.

>>17058505
The golden age of eroge is long over.

Okay so I used to use greeenshot for screenshots but they include the window border so I switched to infranview but I have to start it
up manually so that's annoying.
I can't do much about it.

that being said I was wondering what you use for recording webms?

Coming here as a desperate measure after doing mass googling and archive diving. I found a download for this game Sense Off ~A Sacred Story in the Wind~ on baidu but after installing it, there's no bgm. As in no bgm folder and no in game music playing. Can anyone with this game installed help me out with a download or info on how to get the bgm working on a fresh install? I'm not sure I have the will to play this silently no matter how good i heard it was.

>>17059333
Does the background music exist in the installation medium?

>>17059340
Nope, seems like there should have been a BGM folder along with the DAT folder which holds exactly 1 sound effect file on disk, but there isn't.

>>17059059
ShareX. It does everything I can think of.

>>17059429
ShareX's vp8/9 encoder is incredibly bad.

>>17059333
Just adding that I have the exact same problem. I thought it was somehow on my end but apparently not.
I've just given up since I can't find anything about it.

I've never read demonbane but quick question is he meant to be beatable or not.

>>17059709
No, even if you get it to a point where it seems it's about to be beaten it'll just gain a new ability that will allow it to succeed. EGD however is nigh-Omnipotent if memory serves correctly

Demonbane tends to only "lose" to another demonbane

>>17059333
_inmm.dll

>>17059502
I found the link because of an archived thread, but wondered why nobody mentioned it in that thread.
>>17059813
I'm not sure this'll work considering the original sound files aren't there, unless I can just pirate the ost and use that.

>>17059952
If you game uses CD-DA audio, the files won't show up in Explorer if you open the disc as a data CD. Open it in CDex or some other program to rip music and check there.

>>17060052
You are my god
>>17059502
If you still care, use isobuster or similar program to open the image via the .cue or .cdd files (opening/mounting the .img straight won't show the music). Extract all the music tracks and convert them to mp3. Use _inmm.dll to patch the exe and make the .ini (there's a tutorial for this online or use the included manual), and you're done.

>>17060755
Ultimately you don't even have to extract the music files. You can mount the game with Daemon Tools and make inmm.dll play the music right from the mounted CD.

>>17058505
Early TOMA games are all like that. MC2 is even better on that department and Ayakashi is insane. It's not like you could frequently find things like them 14~10 years ago though.

>>17061018

Yeah, but it's not the first time I've seen something "like this". For example Atelier Kaguya's 幼なじみと甘～くエッチに過ごす方法 has a lot of little animated things as well, although it's otherwise just a "low budget" almost nukige with low quality voice recording and whatnot. I don't think they do anything like that anymore, right? Granted I don't have a big sample-size myself here.
And 塔ノ沢魔術研究会 has some really high quality background art and whatnot. Though I don't really remember if it animated anything... I think so, minor things of course, but it's been a while.

It's certainly not standard or anything, but it still makes me sad, that we still get a whole lot of extremely simple VNs today, that have a low amount of character sprites (i.e. only for heroines), very limited backgrounds for the setting, ~80cg with 10-20 being SD and sprites have 2-3 fixed positions on the screen they can be, change at most at the beginning of a line and so on. The only thing that really changed is the script-size. Stuff is more bloated on average. Also voice acting is usually done for minor characters a bit more often now as well.. I think, though on the flipside I think fully voiced protagonists become less and less.

I talked earlier about how amazing Asuka's route was, and Misaki's route was great too. It goes without saying the comedy was hilarious and the romance beautiful, but more than that the level of depth poured into the setting and the sport is unique. To think they managed to create an entirely new game, defying the known laws of physics and different to every other existing sport, and build such a complex and detailed level of strategy and theorycrafting around it, to create such engaging and purely fun contests to read and to watch. And then, in this setting they create a beautiful story of love and hard work and what it truly means to enjoy something, to pour your all into it and face down the risk of defeat to gain real brightness and pure happiness. Amazingly done.

Imagine if the entire VN had been like this. It's not like Mashiro and Rika's routes were bad or anything, they were enjoyable. Mashiro's route had some really fun scenes and Rika's route some moving ones. But that's it, they were no better than that, and while that would be pretty good in an average moege having them alongside the masterpiece that was Asuka's route is basically sacrilege. It's not entirely those routes' author's fault, the VN was clearly built around Asuka and Misaki right from the opening scene and right up until the very end of the common route, the other heroines just didn't get the level of development or background or meaning that they did. But still, it could have been so so much better.

Anyway I'm giving AoKana a 9/10 because it would be an insult to how amazing the good routes were to give it anything lower, all great VNs have their weaker parts. The final post-routes scene was really well done, wasn't expecting that at all.

>>17061605
Glad to see you enjoyed it that much.
I finished the common route and couldn't really be bothered to do any of the actual routes.

>>17061605
Biggest thing stopping me from playing this is that you apparently can't skip the bad routes since there's an epilogue that unlocks after you read everything. So stupid. The bit I read of the game wasn't good enough for me to want to put that much time into it, rather play something else.

Companies don't put your epilogues behind shitty subroutes pls

>>17061659
I find that surprising, the ending of the common route had me so incredibly hype for Asuka's route there's no way I could've not done it. I was actually planning on doing Mashiro's route first because she was my favourite girl early on and changed my mind after pic related.

>>17061675
Like I said they're not "bad" routes, they're probably about as good as whatever else you're reading, they're just not on the same level as how amazing the main routes are. And while the epilogue is definitely great, for me the highlight of the game was the ending of Asuka's route and even if you just read that it was all worth it.

>>17061716
Just couldn't really bring myself to care about the sport or how the heroines perform.
If it was the protag, it'd be a different story probably.

>>17061605
I honestly tried reading it but I really disliked Asuka, she was like an extremely annoying mary sue, so perfect at everything effortlessly and no flaws to speak of.
Had Misaki been the main heroine maybe I'd have bothered.

Anyone know where to find クトゥルフをあそぶこえ ? Heard you can get it through google but couldn't find it.

Mind if I ask a question? Can't seem to get AstralAir working. Always crashes when I hit New Game.

Japanese Locale set. Time/Date also set to Japan. Installed in recommended path, etc.

Any help would be great

>>17062932
It's trying to prevent you from playing a kusoge. Heed the warning, friend. It's in your best interests.

>>17059443
doesn't really matter since if you make any webm with lots of animation you're going to have to compress the shit out of it to post on thsi site, if you have an AMD GPU it has a feature called ReLive that you can use to screengrab which is a good alternative, maybe nvidia has something similar?

>>17062982
What game is this?

>>17062986
剣聖機 アルファライド

be warned the gameplay can be kind of addicting but the story and characters rather lacking

>>17062982
The problem is the encoder, not the screen capture. Even in relatively still scenes it causes keyframe pop-in.

>>17062982
>>17063011
By the way, is there a way to record only sound with sharex, not video?

>>17063011
>keyframe pop-in
you mean the blur in the middle of the clip?

>>17063020
i don't believe sharex can record sound but windows has its own sound recorder

>>17063054
>you mean the blur in the middle of the clip?
Yeah, that.

>>17040431
>Kusarihime is a moege

I've never encountered this particular flavor of bait before.

Did anyone finish Suisei Ginka? I'm right past UFO taking Himeko, ripping Tetsuo's arm off and now they're fucking patrolling the streets. I can put up with it if it's any better but I'm dying from boredom right now.

>>17062853
The game was taken down from free download sites for whatever dumb reason. Luckily for us, the site form the first result allows you to download the file anyway if you replace data in the POST form with correct id, name and version. I guess I saved this game from fading into obscurity?

https://mega.nz/#!gxk1gZgR!yq-zQVOxUvvi3Gx0xCPMsokQRyrEKYX7CqV6yjq1DII

>>17063148

Well, almost every single VN is a moege. There's a nice publisher called moe app, who ports moege to android and iOS. (thus its name moe app)
They've ported stuff ranging from "Da Capo" over "Bloody Rondo" to "Rebellions: Secret Game 2nd Stage". All are nice moe apps.

>>17063199
Every ゲー is a 燃えゲー when you set it on fire.

Lads, I'll be legit. Dies Irae really needs to flop hard. I know they played safe with the kickstarter, but if its a success we're looking for a major invasion in casuals and I really don't want that.

>>17063356
>Irae

>>17062123
The ironic thing is this is actually addressed in her route, she gets called a バケモノ.

So where does the money go when you bought games from companies that went out of business like elf and FlyingShine? The publishers?

>>17063189
Wow awesome, thanks! I'm looking forward to whether or not it lives up to it's interesting premise.

>>17064094
Probably, yeah.

>>17063059
it probably has more to do with your converter and settings, while sharex doesn't make perfect recordings they still come out relatively good but converting can magnify imperfections. also tried to convert a flawless ReLive clip and got this as a result with webm converter

wanted to use the same leyline game as you but downloaded the trilogy expecting all 3 games and only got the last

Holy SHIT Nono-chansensei sucks her thumb while you fuck her. This game is so naughty

Feel free to post your VN screenshots here if you want >>17064750

>>17064830
Why? Is she stupid or something?

>>17044944

My bad, I missed this until now somehow. Thanks for the help. I'll check to see if those files are the same as the one in the torrent and if so seed it for a while to help those poor souls at 99.9%.

>>17039845
Opinions on these games?

>>17065642
Ningen Debris was messed up

>>17065642
Ai Shimai 4 is good but don't play it if you like milfs, you literally get your face pissed on in the end

>>17045682
>Stop being a fucking stereotype while i stereotype you!

Is there an easy and straightforward guide to white album 1 remake? The ones I found on google are giving me brain cancer.

>>17066014
WA1 is shit anyways. Teninai is better at being WA1.0 so go play that instead for your winter-drama fix.

>>17066034
Teninai has no singers or Nana Mizuki to romance though.

Anyone who played なでしこドリップ here?