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17044220 No.17044220 [Reply] [Original]

What's your favorite combination so far?
Previous thread: >>16991602

>> No.17044231
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17044231

>>17044220
HSiFSLoLK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOzx_UIOwcs

>> No.17044266

>>17044231
I don't like faceless Seiran and Ringo

>> No.17044597

I am fond of Reimu + Winter.

>> No.17044630

>>17044220
Reimu Autumn since it reminds me of her old needles.

>> No.17044694

>>17044231
stage 2 looks the same

>> No.17044952

First time getting as far as Mamizou's sixth spellcard.
In fact, I hadn't trained at all, I just decided "hey, I wanna try another Extra stage, what about TD?" then, once I got past the stage with 2 extra lives and 2 bombs, I decided to give the boss a go despite being wholly unfamiliar with the patterns.

>> No.17044982

>>17044231
This looks kinda bad. Also that's some terrible gameplay holy shit.

>> No.17045653

Is it a 1cc if I use the 5 lives setting?

>> No.17045889

>>17044952
>I decided to give the boss a go despite being wholly unfamiliar with the patterns.
I mean, you have to do it at some point anyways
>>17045653
No.

>> No.17045921

>>17045889
>No.
Aww, I suppose I have to practice more then or hope for good random numbers

>> No.17046015

>>17045921
It's pretty funny, but changing lives from five back to the default three does not affect your playthrough AT ALL.
For example, I used to reach Yuyuko with 0 lives when I had 5 starting lives, and switched back to three after that. You would expect some drawback after losing two starting lives, but no, I reached exactly the same place (Yuyuko's second spellcard) with the same amount of lives (zero).

>> No.17046071

>>17046015
That's because they were made literally only to invalidate people's runs. You don't need them, no one does.

>> No.17046081

>>17046015
I'm playing EoSD though. I will now try with 3.

>> No.17046184

What if you LNN(N) with extra lives? Does it not count?

>> No.17046239

>>17046184
If you never missed AND never used a bomb, then there's no real difference from playing without extra lives, sure, but what's the point of giving yourself extra lives if you're planning a no-miss no-bomb run anyway?
If you used bombs, however, this changes things, because extends convert themselves to bombs when you already have maximum number of lives. You'll reach this number sooner if you'll give yourself extra starting lives, resulting in more bombs.

>> No.17046265

>>17046239
What if a talented player NMNB's the first time they play the game and had max starting lives?

>> No.17046363

>>17046265
I'm sure they could do it again in the next credit too.

>> No.17047037

>>17044220
How do you get vpatch to work, I'm not able to edit the screen size of eosd

>> No.17047069

>>17047037
I personally switch my screen resolution every time I play.

>> No.17047082
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>>17047069
I feel like an idiot for not being able to figure this out

>> No.17047092

>>17045653
>>17046015
There was a discussion about this on the last thread, after reading that some people consider it as cheating, I felt guilty myself because my first 1cc on PCB was with extra lives, so I decided to try it out with default lives and I actually did a better run than the previous one. It's almost the same, I reached stage 4 and 5 with the same lives as before.

Not sure about IN and EoSD with default lives though, might try that later, I'm trying to 1cc DDC now.

>> No.17047108

>>17047092
I played EoSD for a bit with four starting lives, but went back to default after I discovered that it reduced my score.

>> No.17047310

>>17047092

When I started playing (EOSD was my first game) I used 4 lives because that's what the default was set to for some reason. After I found out I kept it like that until I could get to stage 6 then I switched back to default. Worked pretty well at helping sort of ease me into the game I think,

>> No.17047347

>>17045653
technically speaking yes, but it's a moral failure

default settings, please

>> No.17047575

>>17047347
I am a moral failure either way, but noted, I'll keep it default from now on.

>> No.17048008

Does Marisa's speed just take some getting used to or something? I normally play a wide variety of Reimu shots and it feels harder to dodge more precisely with Marisa. I always die a lot more with her as I seem to overshoot or undershoot how far I want to go a lot more.

>> No.17048547

>>17048008
I love Marisa but I suck at her on most of the games, I either can't handle the speed or got too used to Reimu's homing shots.

>> No.17049015

>>17048008
yes if you're untalented

>> No.17049104
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What happened to the anon that wanted to beat Mamizou?

>> No.17049116

How do I become talented?

>> No.17050386

>>17049116
You go to /vg/ and shitpost there.

>> No.17050816
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17050816

I have no idea how I managed to 1cc this on my first try. Is Futo B just so good?

>> No.17051603

>>17047082
>>17047037
Does your config file look like this?
>[Window]
>AskWindowMode = 0
>enabled = 1
>X = 300
>Y = 20
>Width = 1280
>Height = 960
>TitleBar = 1
>AlwaysOnTop = 0
And did you follow the directions for getting vpatch to work with 6 in the first place?

>> No.17052702

>>17049104
He went to Gensokyo

>> No.17053727
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>>17049104
I assume you mean me.
I haven't even attempted it since the realization that her final spellcard is basically impossible to beat without timing out if you lose too much power as Youmu. I haven't been playing much of any Touhou lately, besides maybe turning on a game, doing a Normal run, dying to some stupid thing around Stage 3, then turning the game off. I'm sorry for being a failure, Yuyukoposter.

>> No.17053753

>>17051603
I did follow what it said about renaming the exe and everything, though mine doesn't look like this, let me change it

>> No.17053870

>>17053753
In order for the Window settings to apply you need to set enabled=1.

>> No.17053876

>>17053870
man im dumb
thanks man

>> No.17053901

>>17047310
>because that's what the default was set to for some reason
because you're a filthy filthy pirate

>> No.17054022

Looking for someone to play PoFV with. Anyone interested?

>> No.17055786

>>17054022
I wouldn't mind playing some matches with you.

>> No.17056637

>>17055786
I can't host though. How can I contact you? Discord?

>> No.17057193

>>17054022
What's that? Sorry, I'm too busy playing Twinkle Star Sprites, the game PoDD and PoFV are terrible ripoffs of.

>> No.17057327

>>17056637
I would prefer you giving me your Discord username so I can add you there.

>> No.17057420

>>17057193
Twinkle Star Sprites is too cute for me.

>>17057327
Sure, I don't mind. CrimsonRed#0417

>> No.17057457
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17057457

All this "extra-live 1cc" talk made me feel like shit because I used extra lives in Imperishable Night to beat it.
Now I went Default lives with Netherworld and managed to successfully 1cc. I actually feel proud of myself, since this time I did it without relying on the extra-lives crutches.
Does anyone else think that Netherworld is actually easier than Border? I'd say the mobility of Youmu, crazy burst damage and the amount of area Yuyuko covers just feels much better for me than Border team's homing shots.

>> No.17057463

Anyone have any advice for dealing with Marisa as border patrol in IN?

As I'm managing to get to Final B but the main stumbling block and life loss I'm finding is trying to get through Marisa, as I keep getting walled in and the star danmaku means Im never too sure how large my safe zone is, so she's my main source of life / bomb loss which means I'm not that well stocked going into stage 6B.

I swear she's worse than reisen and on par with some of Eirins easier stuff.

>> No.17057478

>>17057463
What difficulty?

>> No.17057488

>>17057478
Normal, I've only got the one 1cc so far in eosd and Im wanting to revisit that at some point because it was with more slowdown than I'd have liked so I don't feel proud of it, so I'm not good enough for hard yet.

>> No.17057519
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>>17057488
There's practice start, if you haven't tried. Excluding that, well I'm not sure with which part of Marisa you're having problems with. "One directional laser" basically you just run through the gap between the huge stars once one of the lasers fades away like in my webm. If you mean the star danmaku wall that comes after her first spellcard I believe, what I used to do is go to the slightly below middle left corner, then try to squeeze my way through somehow back right into the middle by finding a gap(usually it's a 50/50, though, because of how close the stars are to each other). I'm rather shit against Marisa myself, but her later spellcards basically revolve around you using Reimu to dodge, and solely on Yukari to deal damage (for e.g Master Spark).
I personally agree that Marisa is worse than Reisen. It feels more like Marisa and Reisen swapped places in stages (Kind of how I feel about Stage 4 and Stage 5 in PCB).

>> No.17057625

Can't play for shit recently, failing there and there.
Feeling like shit as well.

How can consistently dodge the last burst of Hard mode SA stage 1's boss? Right before the boss explodes, there's a part where the spell converges fast on you and dodging that part is kinda a matter of luck sometimes before of the diagonal shots.

>> No.17057656

>>17057519
I think parts of it are that the walls like that are something Im not that great with, as I usually have some difficulty getting the moment right to dodge through unfocused so I have to do it focused.

And beyond that, it's mostly just marisa in general that I suck at

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>>17057656
So I replayed the Marisa part with the Star wall danmaku. Apparently, my description in the last post doesn't describe what I do in this webm well. You might notice in the last few seconds I was basically cornered because I fucked up and kept going to the left, when I could've gone to the right. Basically imo just stand back and try to stay in the middle, preferably going to the left or right, whichever you like more and try not to overextend/overdo it. I like to say this is basically the danmaku where it's heavily discouraged to go up close and personal

>> No.17057720

>>17057698
It's usually the purple wall at the end that gets me, but if its possible to clear before the end I that's interesting. I might try and record a run or summat tomorrow for more concrete feedback.

>> No.17059576

>>17057457
Both of those teams are my personal favourites, but I tend to stick to Border because Reimu's homing shots are comfy while staying in the item collect area

>> No.17059586

>>17057698
I think Marisa is harder than Reisen.

If memory serves the star danmaku have a smaller hitbox than their sprite suggests and I saw a gap in the purple near the end of the pattern you could've squeezed through.

Not that I could do that with certainty. I think my replay of IN normal has me bombing through that.

>> No.17063336

I just noticed that most of the most troublesome bosses are the ugly ones (like Ichirin), since you can't fap to them to decrease their power over you.
This is also why we can overcome certain difficult bosses after we learn this technique (Orin and Clownpiece).

>> No.17063833

>>17063336
So you mean to tell me that I lost my LNN to wild cat step because I've never spilt my seed to Orin in her cat form before? Fuck.

>> No.17063866

>>17063833
Either Orin should be fine

>> No.17064439
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17064439

I used to be able to play EoSD on lunatic but now I can barely play anything on normal. I'm getting too old and my reflexes aren't what they used to be. How do I cope with the fact that I will never be good at 2hu ever again.

>> No.17064692

New player here, any tips on how to not get fisted by Patchouli? Also are her spell cards different every time? How many cards does this bitch have?

>> No.17064730
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>>17064692
Her spells will change accordion to what shottype you choose anon. Get used to this, in most games s4 boss have some variation depending on that and other stuff.
I recommend you to play ReimuA, she may take a bit more to kill bosses, but it will make your stages easier, Patchouli's easier cards are for her too and since she has homing, you can focus more in dodging rather than looking where the boss is.
>>17053727
Come on anon, you almost had her. I can understand if you are taking a break from the series tho, just relax

>> No.17064767
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>>17064730
I really appreciate the encouragement, but
>you almost had her
It really doesn't feel like it. I really don't like the post-MoF power system, it feels like you can go from max power to nothing in a single boss battle. I've gotten completely reliant on using Youmu's sword to deal damage because for the most part it works great, but Mamizou's last card just completely shuts me down when I'm at low power. I've managed to time out Mamizou's last card once in Spell Practice but that last thirty seconds feels like hell.
I know I need to get back on the Touhou horse but I haven't been able to motivate myself. The jump from Normal to Hard/Extra is just huge, and it's intimidating me.

>> No.17064835

Got my first few PC-98 1CC.
Can anyone post an empty chart? I need to start on one.

>> No.17064848

>>17064767
The jump to Hard is different for each game.
About Mamizou's last card, you either get to her with some bombs or time it out I guess? You can always shoot unfocused.
If I remember right, you have been to her last card on a run right? Anyone that sees the last card of a boss is in position to beat them.
I don't really know what to add, i honestly think that you already have it, just a final push..

>> No.17064879

Whenever I try to play a pc-98 game the screen doesnt change from blank, and it doesnt even change the name in the emulator title bar. I tried this with both Anex and neko project with following instructions from shrinemaiden but its still the same. I think I played some HtRP and PoDD some time back so I dont know why its doing this now.
What do?

>> No.17064881

>>17064848
I might try Mamizou again soon. I just really suck at unfocused dodging. It's not that I need the visible hitbox because I'm not terrible at Touhou 4-6, but I just can't handle the higher speed and die. I need controlled, slow movement to weave through bullets, and SoEW kicks my ass just as much today as it did the first time I played it (despite it being my second Normal clear in Touhou)
Regarding Hard mode I've mostly been messing with EoSD since it was my first Normal clear; on my best attempt I managed to get to Remilia's final nonspells (I assume, if her nonspells are the same as on Normal then it's her final one) with continues. I can't even complain about how much Patchi reams my ass because her hardest spell for Reimu-B in Normal mode doesn't appear for Reimu-B in hard mdoe.
>>17064879
Are you playing in fullscreen mode? For some reason fullscreen refused to work for me for the longest time, though it eventually fixed itself when I switched to a better computer and I'm not really sure why.

>> No.17064933

>>17064730
Thanks for the advice. I remember reading another post about using Reimu A for that fight. I just find it much easier to get to that point with Reimu B. Guess I need more practice before I can switch it up.

>> No.17064948

>>17064881
I've tried both fullscreen and windowed and its still the same.

>> No.17065196
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>>17064835
Congrats! What game?

>> No.17065238

>>17064948
Make sure there isn't anything wrong with your hard disk images for the games. Perhaps try redownloading them?

>>17064881
Hard mode in EoSD isn't that bad. I cleared it with every shot type right after my first normal 1CC, and that was with less than 2 months of STG experience under my belt.

I watched your TD replay a while back; I think it should be easy for you. You are going to need to know the strategies for EoSD though. That means knowing how to get through stage 4 and 5 properly without dying much. The strategies are completely irrelevant for normal.

>> No.17065835
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17065835

My thcrap is not making a file for EoSD, why this happen?

>> No.17065952
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17065952

I hate the Prismriver sisters so fucking much in PCB

>> No.17066048

>>17065238
Well I downloaded new hdi files and now it works. Can hdi files get orrupted on their own like this?

>> No.17066784

>>17065952
I literally cannot get past the final spellcard without bombing. Every time I get to that point I do well for like the first half and suddenly it's like OH FUCK WHERE'S THE OPENING and I just bomb it away.

God I'm shit at bullet hells.

>> No.17066795

>>17066784
It's genuinely the only boss that I can't "perfect" my way without dying or "Waste less than 4 bombs"
Those god damn squigly lines/lasers they shoot aren't really fun to dodge either.

>> No.17066841

>>17065835
maybe it hates you?

>> No.17066968

>>17065835
Doesn't thcrap not have support for EoSD?

>> No.17068742

Approximately how long did it take to 1cc your first touhou game and which one was it? I picked up the series a while ago but didn't start really practicing until a few days ago.

>> No.17068761

It is cheating if I'm using a non-default control scheme?

>> No.17068846

>>17068742
A couple weeks? I think it was either EoSD or IN.

>>17068761
Why would it be?

>> No.17068888

>>17068742
One week, EoSD Normal mode.
6 months for Lunatic.

>> No.17068897

>>17068761
No, some people play with playstation controllers, nintendo controllers and other shit. Also wasdfags.

>> No.17068965

>>17068742
EoSD, and it took an entire year of on-and-off play, but it was really inefficient and I would sometimes go months without playing. My second 1cc took one month after my first, and then I was getting one every couple weeks until I hit the difficulty spike that is Subterranean Animism.

>> No.17068981

>>17068846
>>17068888
>>17068965
Oh okay. I've been practicing consistently for only the past 3 or 4 days and I still can't get past patchy without using a continue. Did any of you watch youtube videos? I'm trying not to because it feels like cheating.

>> No.17069006

>>17068965
Is Touhou 11 harder than 15?

>> No.17069037

>>17069006
No. On Normal difficulty, I'd say difficulty goes
LoLK >>> power gap >>> SA > GFW > UFO > SoEW > the rest

>> No.17069047

>>17068742
Took about a week for my first 1CC in IN. It then took about within a week to get a hard 1cc on both PCB and IN but that was after I 1cc'd all of the other games anyway, so I guess I have improved somewhat.

>> No.17069058

>>17069037

Depends on which shottype you're using and whether you're talking about LOLK Point Device or LOLK Legacy

>> No.17069062

>>17069058 sorry this was meant for >>17069006

>> No.17069099

>>17069058
LoLK Pointdevice is possibly the easiest game to clear just because infinite retries, so I was only considering Legacy mode.

>> No.17069108

>>17069006
LoLK is unquestionably more difficult than SA

>> No.17069309

>>17068742
700 hours because i have mental disability
IN

>> No.17069318

>>17068981
>Did any of you watch youtube videos?
I don't.

>> No.17069323

>>17069309
That's pretty encouraging, though my reaction time may also be disabled because of all the drugs I binged on last year.

>> No.17069327

>>17069318
Great, I'm determined to figure this out on my own. I've read other posts saying people have just copied videos but that seems really cheap and ruins the fun.

>> No.17069396

>>17069327
That's mostly for people that are trying stuff like NMNB, score or just even getting on higher difficulties.

>> No.17069420

>>17069327
https://youtu.be/XgvlqHJ5fTo
You make it sound like copying a run is easy, so why don't you try it with this one here? Ignore the people talking in the background.

Sarcasm aside, unless you're some kind of god, you will definitely hit a wall eventually where you need to reference some runs for tips and tricks to progress.

>> No.17069479

>>17069420
>Ignore the people talking in the background
That's rude towards Zengeku though.
But yes, using guides and safespots is completely fine.

>> No.17069490

>>17065952
>Prismriver sisters
In my case it's fucking Youmu. I just can't beat her without losing at least 4 lives

>> No.17069511

>>17069099
>>17069108

LOLK legacy is only harder than SA if you aren't exploiting Sanae's bomb

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>>17069511
>Sanae
that bitch is small time haha

>> No.17069555

>>17069490
I always get my ass drilled by Youmu too anon.

>> No.17069765

>>17069420
You have an excellent point, and I realized that the moment I hit my "wall." I'm barely making any progress.

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>>17068742
My first normal 1cc was PCB after two months of playing on and off.

>>17069555
>>17069490
For some reason Prismriver Sisters don't give me any trouble, but the stage always does, I'm more eager to lose lives or bombs during that stage 4 rather than at the boss fight.
Youmu on the other hand always makes me lose a live or two, I know how to capture all of her spellcards but I always die in some stupid manner then proceed to fuck up.

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>>17068965
>and then I was getting one every couple weeks until I hit the difficulty spike that is Subterranean Animism.

Same here, went on a spree and got from EoSD to MoF plus TD within a week or two, I was really pumped, but then SA and UFO came in and they were a relentless difficulty spike for me, boy I might be stuck trying to beat these two for a long time now.

>> No.17070125

>>17069327
Unless you are a STG veteran, playing them for years, I highly doubt you'll just figure it out on your own without a little unnecessary suffering. There's nothing wrong with watching replays. You might learn somethings you would have never figured out on your own because you didn't have the experience to try it. It's not like watching a replay is going to complete the game for you; you'll still have to beat it on your own. Just remember to have fun!

>> No.17070226

>>17069420
>>17069765
>>17070125
For survival it's not that hard to figure out strats on your own. They're not gonna be optimal, but wahtever, it's survival, optimal strats only really matter for LNN.

For scoring of course it's impossible to find all the optimal routes on your own.

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I wasn't expecting the space above these lasers to cause damage.

>> No.17070428

>>17070226
I finally managed to get past the part I was stuck on without looking up help. I guess progress sort of slows down the better you get, just like with anything else. It's not the conventional style of progression you see with most games nowadays. I'm really enjoying it.

>> No.17070807

>>17069490
As someone who uses reimu B for PCB, my strategy for a bunch of youmus stuff is to just go up to her, skirt hug and bomb, as while the reimu B focus bomb has really low damage range it melts through healthbars, so it's just something to get through the worst parts.

>> No.17071593

>>17069525
I don't get it.

>> No.17071610

>>17071593
https://youtu.be/hPe-jdGwk1Q

>> No.17071747

Someone wanna tell me why 11, 12, and 15 are so fucking difficult? I thought I was doing decent in the series until I hit these games and could not for the life of me figure them out.

>> No.17071774

>>17050816
The game isn't too difficult I don't think, honestly. I'm not particularly good at Touhou and it only took me a few tries to 1cc, a good deal less effort than it usually takes.

Dunno about Futo B, I used C.

>> No.17071776

>>17068742
2 weeks after starting playing that game in particular which was IN, 5 weeks after starting playing touhou in general if memory serves.
>>17070085
I swear to god, this has to be the best touhou picture out there.
>>17071747
What about 12.8?
Also, out of a group of games there is always gonna be some harder than others.

>> No.17071811

>>17071747
12 isn't as difficult as you may think. Yes, there are generally more bullets, but once you've practiced enough to dodge well and have some spatial awareness as well as enough time playing the game you'll find that UFOs used well are a fucking amazing source of resources. On one run I started Shou with 7 lives and 4 bombs, and that's after fucking up my UFOs a bit. I think you can do better than that.

If you want to, you can pretty much literally farm green UFOs and just bomb away any spell you don't like/is dangerous.

>> No.17071957

Any tips for the shot types in PCB? Does homing Reimu do more damage unfocused?

>> No.17071992

>>17071957
The best shot type is Sakuya A. Unfocused covers a lot of area, focused it's homing and you start with 4 instead of 3 bombs. I believe homing Reimu has the lowest damage output, too, albeit the most consistent.

>> No.17072129

>>17071992
The best shottype is ReimuB.
SakuyaA is good, but don't try to db with her, you are just gonna lose bombs

>> No.17072144

>>17072129
Huh, I always found Sakuya A to be better than Reimu B, guess my personal preference got in the way.

>> No.17072146
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>>17071992
>>17072129
Yeah Sakuya A seems to be the "I feel like winning today." shot type. Either way, I think I lucked out with Reimu A. I feel like I could have done this with Reimu B but her bomb is ass.

>> No.17072182

>>17072146
ReimuA is better than Sakuya tho

>> No.17072204

>>17072182
ReimuA has a more wide range for the focused homing shot, it can even fire at Youmu when she gets behinds you, does less damage but it's still better than Sakuya for me.

>> No.17072272

>>17071747
Did you let yourself get psyched out by the '11 is hard' meme, or did you go in blind and genuinely find it that difficult? On Normal (which is what I assume you're playing if you're clearing them for the first time), I'd say 11 is easier than 8, 12, and 14. I'm a fucking scrublord and can easily get through stage 4 without dying, which IIRC leaves you with eight lives going into stage 5. Just practice a bit and you'll get the hang of it.

As for 12, like the other anon pointed out, it gets orders of magnitude easier once you figure out your UFO collection route. You kind of end up paying more attention to them than to the danmaku through most of the stages.

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>>17072272
First stages doesn't matter. It's Orinrin land where the fun begins.
>I'd say 11 is easier than 8

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>>17072272
Nah, I just thought it was really tough. Coming to terms with the fact that my bombs are also STILL tied to my power was also pretty annoying.

>Easier than 8 and 14

What kind of backwards individual are you?

>> No.17072370

>>17072272
Judging the difficulty of a game based of the resources you get in the early stages is retarded as fuck.
On normal, LoLK/SA/UFO/GFW are the hardest games in that order.

>> No.17072410

>>17072129

You shouldn't be trying to deathbomb anyways, you get so many bombs on sakuya a that you can just do planned bombs on any spellcards that give you trouble.

>> No.17072427

>>17072272
>I'd say 11 is easier than 8
The f?

>> No.17072432

>>17072410
That's retarded, you should always try to dodge, fuck planned bombing it teaches you absolutely nothing. Db in the other hand, you can try to dodge and still save your ass.
So no, you shouldn't have planned bombs.

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>>17072272
>I'd say 11 is easier than 8
IN is my favorite game but there is no way it's harder than SA.

>> No.17072448

>>17072410
>>17072432
These are not mutually exclusive things. There is a difference between practice and real attempts.

"Don't try to deathbomb with SakuyaA" is referring more to how Reimu's deathbomb period is near-reactable whereas Sakuya's is not, so you cannot (nor should you ever) depend on reacting to a death cue to bomb.

>> No.17072455

>>17072432

Learning not to save your bombs needlessly is a much better skill to have than always only deathbombing when it comes to survival. Plus playing Reimu in pcb arguably makes you worse at deathbombing since her window is significantly longer than in any game other than IN.

>> No.17072469

IN anon who was having trouble with marisa from earlier in thread, where should I upload a replay to use as example for getting feedback?

>> No.17072475

>>17072309
>>17072322
>>17072427
>>17072440
Maybe it's just my play style, then. As far as I'm concerned, all the difficulty of 11 is concentrated in stage 5 and everything else is cozy, whereas in 8 I die all the time through the second half and only ever managed clears because of how many resources it gives you.

>> No.17072700

>>17072146
I like reimu Bs bomb- its got reasonable duration and range on bullet cancel, and the damage melts boss bars. It's just really limited because it has no range, so it's mostly survival situational lots of damage.

>> No.17072801

>>17072469
I'm not that guy, but Mega or Mediafire should be fine.

>> No.17072905

>>17072469
http://replays.gensokyo.org/
and
http://threplays.appspot.com/replays
for DDC and LoLK and probably HSiFS

>> No.17073201

>>17072801
https://mega.nz/#!VShnzSKC!9pdGjNOtn0VSSqDvxSJpHMQMiQUjigOUrpDk6m6SXCM

Well, in that case, here's the replay of my best run so far. First time reaching kaguya, almost through her 3rd card before a wipe.

Current plans for future work- refine keine so Im getting better with point item grabbing and less slipups there, less slipups on keine.
-Get better with not running into things in marisa fight- first time I captured non directional laser on this run so progress there.
-Stop running into shit during resiens fight, there's a couple of times there I flew straight into a bullet, which also happened in 1st nonspell and 1st spell for kaguya.
-Eirin midboss nonspell and kaguyas 3rd spell both seem likestreaming stuff so I should offset from centre before they start so I dont have to double back as thats when I got hit for run end.
Beyond that, I should probably try and work on my tendency to dodge left to right as it can corner me somewhat.

Anyone else have any advice for general stuff or specific cards?

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This is something I've noticed since like the first time I ever played Touhou and it's always confused me. Why does it seem like Cirno's first nonspell in EoSD has more bullets if you're doing really well, and less bullets if you've died or bombed up to that point? Is it related to the game's "rank" system that doesn't appear in later games or is it something else?

>> No.17074031

>>17074017
What's the purpose of asking questions you already know the answer to?

>> No.17074058

>>17074017
Yes it's because of rank.

>> No.17074075

>>17074031
But I didn't know the answer for sure.
>>17074058
Thank you, now my mind can be at ease.

>> No.17074319

>>17073201
I don't know about you but, for farming time orbs I always try to stick with Yukari. She does a lot more damage than Reimu generally does and still has some strong homing capability. The only problem is how slow she is but this is fairly easily fixed by letting go of both focus and shot to move around as Reimu without killing familiars or otherwise interrupting your over 80 in general. Furthermore lack of focus puts you in greater danger from bosses and dense bullets in general, even early on so I would typically avoid doing it personally.

Your movements are very erratic. Often times you can get away with just a small movement rather than a large(and in your case sometimes awkward)one if you read the bullets right. This is something that typically comes with time. Try seeing a multitude of ways through the bullets and choosing the best one ahead of time when you have a little time to consider, rather than just always acting off your gut; not that acting off your gut is always bad, but rather than relaxing when the bullets are light, you should put use to your lax time to study the field and try to see ahead what could be, no, probably is, coming. There were some deaths that were caused by moving somewhat carelessly, and some that could have been avoided by being more open to wider possibilities to dodging bullets than those immediately available to you. Try to throw a little layer of strategy around the layer of your dodging that is it's tactics and you'll do it much better and put yourself in less risk.

There are two ways to look at the bullets: in detail, and a birds-eye-view generality of the overall situation. You should use both of these in Touhou, and in time you may be able to do a measure of both at the same time. Your detailed view will dictate the tactics of your dodging and the birds-eye will dictate your strategy.

Try to stay lined up with the boss as best you're able. The more damage you can lay out to them, the more you will by association reduce the danger to yourself as well as you will end spellcards sooner.

On the positive note, your deathbombing is somewhat consistent and you're not afraid to use your bombs, which is good. IN gives you a plentiful supply of bombs and you should use them as needed. Try not to use them as a get out of jail free card too much, though. You'll want to be able to capture probably about 80-90% of cards without too much trouble. After you can do that, you should feel free to bomb away anything that's difficult. Remember that your resources, as large as they are, are still finite.

As far as collection goes, when you collect a large item drop(eg after a boss spell or tough enemy), you should do a sweep across them ahead of time if you're not going to do an autocollect, assuming it's safe to do so. The more time you have to collect the items the better and more you'll be able to collect them. Also, there were many times you missed out on many items you could have autocollected easily, particularly in later stages. It's understandable to play it safe if you are not that familiar with the stages, but as you learn the stages better, try extending your hand to get more autocollects when you think it's reasonably safe. Remember that more points = more lives which is better chances for you to clear.

There are also times when you wasted bombs in certain areas of stages by not seeing an easier way out of trouble. Keep your eyes open when you're feeling trapped for a place less dense of bullets that will let you escape rather than getting you stuck in the corner. Part of the wide-vs-narrow view thing I was talking about before.

>> No.17075266

>>17074319
I think some of the awkward dodges would have been me acting on instinct which is to dodge from the left which can also corner me.

Beyonds that, I can try to be more focused for time orb collection as I guess going for the last word spells will mean I get more dodging practice. As I'm just going for survival currently so dont need the last words for score but it would prolly help.

But thank you for the feedback so I'll try and put it into practice.

>> No.17075296

Why the fuck is Sakuya's hitbox so fucking weird in PCB? Not only it's fucking huge but it's also not on the center of the sprite. Add this to the enormous speed, she's really unstable to use and you run into bullets more often than not.

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How do I use Patchy's Wood element in Subterranean Animism? I only find Fire & Water the most useful ones as of now, but I recall something about wood having the highest damage output.
>inb4 why use Patchy
Because it's fun

>> No.17075321

>>17075314

Wood is only the strongest if you're at 3 power and shotgunning the boss

>> No.17075327

>>17075314
I'm going to use her when I play SA because it's the closest thing to playing as her in an STG.

>> No.17075338

>>17075321
Why 3 power specifically? Is it some similiar bullshit to Marisa B 3.00-3.95 power in MoF?

>> No.17075350

>>17075338

It's something to do with how the game lowers the damage per option the more options are hitting at the same time. Wood level 4 actually does more damage when only two options are hitting than it does when all four are.

>> No.17077640

>>17075327
It's really sad, and it's the same for Suika sadly

>> No.17077761
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17077761

Do I use Youmu or Marisa in Ten Desires? I find Youmu's slash to be very good, but Marisa's laser spread just seems too nice not to use, either.

>> No.17077812

I died to Remilia with 3 bombs in stock. I couldn't take it easy. ああああああああ

>> No.17078534

>>17065196
Just LLS with Reimu A, and SOEW with Reimu A.
Thanks for the chart.

>> No.17079019

>>17077761
You clear it with all shot types, duh. Do them in order if you can't decide.

>> No.17079890

>>17079019
Is there anyone here who has beaten all the games with all shot types? Extra stages included.

>> No.17079934

>>17079890
Not sure about here but I bet yuke has done it.
http://embed.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29524498

>> No.17079954

>>17079890
A lot of people can, they just don't bother because they are autistically scoring one category.

>> No.17080056

>>17079934
Watching him mindbreak during his first LoLK run was fun.

>> No.17080159

>>17079890
>all the games with all shot types
PoDD makes this an absolute nightmare.

>> No.17080232

>>17044220
Is Imperishable Night the greatest Touhou game made to date? It has 12 different shot types and has extra unlockable cards to fight.

>> No.17080380
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>>17080232
Yes.
Although you forgot:
-Introduced Spell Practice
-2 final stages and bosses
-Only game that let's you play as best girl
-Introduced Kaguya, which leads to LoLK which leads to introducing 2 of the best girls in the series
-SSiB
-Only game that let's you play as best girl

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>>17080380
You forgot the banter.

>> No.17080437

>>17080232
It has the most content out of all the games, that's for sure. Whether or not that means it's the "greatest" is up for debate.

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>>17080056
That run was a total wreck, but also his most fun one to date.
>まだ7機あるぞ!
>残機がゴミのように減っていく
>抱えすぎだなー!
>バカじゃねえのほんと…
>何このゲーム(ギレ

>> No.17083852

>>17080232
Best OST, best movement and mechanics, amazing Extra stage, Final A and Final B, Yuyuko is playable, for me it's the best of them all along with PCB.

I still like the newer games though, but not as much as from 6 to 12.

>> No.17084048

Used to have all touhou games on my old PC.
It died and now with the new Nyaa all I see is the untranslated games. Anybody has a link?

>> No.17084114
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>>17084048
It's still there, please search harder next time.
https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/view/788435

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>>17079934
Hey this is actually pretty fun to watch. I don't understand a damn thing, but I love his reactions.

>> No.17084136

>>17084114
I had this and those were all japanese. Maybe there was another .exe that I didn't see.

>> No.17084459
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>>17084136
Well it's a good thing you ignored the IGNOREME.txt, otherwise you'd have some idea what the fuck you're doing.

>> No.17084519

how do i stop being shit

>> No.17084578

>>17084136
Just set up thcrap bro

>> No.17084589

>>17084519
Play at 90FPS and get used to it
Go back to 60
Enjoy your slow-mo cheat

>> No.17085009

All I see are videos of people using Autumn and occasionally Spring. Is seriously nobody trying to score with Summer and Winter? They'd get shit scores but it'd be nice to see.

>> No.17085052

>>17084128
That one is actually a part of series of vids where yuke attempts clearing EX stages of all Windows mainline games (except 9) in one sitting, with some light challenges (no bombs, retries allowed within first 30 mins. etc.)
These videos were actually recorded off a namahousou (livestream) which means that he sat for like 6-7 hrs straight, playing all the way while also interacting with viewers throughout the session.

yuke is quite skilled in Touhou STGs but the main charm lies in his first run videos. His reactions clearly show his love and devotion for Touhou. Like when facing an unexpected returning character, or his screams whenever facing a surprisingly tough stage/boss.

>> No.17085071

>>17085052
Fuck, you made me realize I missed yuke streaming this while in the heat of trying to translate shit and whatnot. Better watch this now.

>> No.17085320

>>17066784
curious, I only can pass the final spell without bombing cornered myself

>> No.17085343

How many of you visit twitch or other streaming websites?

>> No.17085351
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17085351

SA Stage 5 on Hard makes me wanna cry, I just want to fucking unlock the stage so I can practice it but Orin just fucks my shit up over and over again.

>> No.17085413

>>17084519
id like to know too

>> No.17085497

>>17084519
>>17085413
Play more.

>> No.17085501
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17085501

>>17085413
Don't we all

>> No.17085534

>>17085497
how much more

>> No.17085851

>>17085534
It could happen any second. Don't stop.

>> No.17085944 [DELETED] 

No one here is a passcuck. I'm proud of you.

>> No.17086326

Yo which shot type should I try to 1cc Normal mode with in PCB next? I've got Reimu A and Sakuya A completed but I want to practice the game some more and see the endings for the other shot types.

I don't know why I'm on a PCB binge lately, I think playing it reminded me of how fucking good it is compared to some of the newer games.

>> No.17088421

>>17086326
I recommend ReimuB then
How's that chart going anon?

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>>17088421
>How's that chart going anon?
It's fucking terrible! Thanks for asking.

>> No.17088447
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2.601b.
2.7b is just around the corner. It's not much harder than this whatsoever.

>> No.17088459

>>17088447
How are you meant to read the score when it's glitched out like that? I believe you that it's 2.6b but it doesn't look like that, is there an offset with the X mark that you add to the score?

>> No.17088539

>tfw you've been playing Touhou for 2 years and you can't 1cc any game
I bomb, I try with different shottypes, different games, I practice at least 5 times every week, I use practice mode, I go on YT to watch Touhou videos, I stream bullets I do everything, yet I still fucking suck.
I don't understand. I want to give up.

>> No.17088558

>>17088539
It's time for you to try out easy mode.

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>>17088459
The score displays correctly in the replay screen and the results screen. The score in game can be fixed using vpatch or the scorefix English patch.

>> No.17088561

>>17088558
You know what? I'll give in. I'm gonna play easy mode. If I fuck this up, then Touhou is over for me. DDC easy mode, I here I come, and I better not fuck up.

>> No.17088568

>>17088539
get talent like >>17088559 here

>> No.17088569

>>17088561
Good luck. Don't let anyone give you shit if you have fun with it.

>> No.17088582

>>17088559
Oh, that makes sense, thank you for explaining.

>> No.17088661

>>17088561
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
I lost 5 lives (five) to Seija. 3 on her first spell, 2 on her last. I want to die. I only have 1 life for Stage 6. On Easy mode. I hate myself.

>> No.17088682

>>17088661
That's it. I lost. I lost to this fucking inchling of my ass. "You grow bigger". I can't even finish a game on Easy. Touhou is over for me. I'm not coming back here. I'll stay for about 20 minutes, then leave forever. Goodbye. It was fun while it lasted.

>> No.17088693

>>17088682
You should practice more instead of bitching.

>> No.17088700

>>17088661
>>17088539
You can attempt a game over and over as many times as you want, but if you don't learn anything from your failures, that doesn't count as practice. Also, don't abuse the quote function.

>> No.17088704

>>17088693
>practice more
Yeah, sure, it's not like I spent 2 years practicing at least 5 times a week every week. Thanks for your input though.

>> No.17088714

>>17088700
But I don't understand why I fail. It's just missplay after missplay, for no particular reasons everytime.

>> No.17088733
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>>17088704
>at least 5 times a week every week

I learned to 1cc EoSD on normal because I practiced it for two weeks, using most of my free time on it. If 5 times a week isn't cutting it for you, then obviously you need to devote more practice. And I think it makes sense that you suck dicks, because if it's five separate attempts across the whole week we're talking about, then you're just not remembering anything about it because you're not playing the game enough. You kind of remind me of my faggot friend who says he isn't capable of a 1cc because it's too hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs

>> No.17088746

>>17088733
When I mean 5 attempts, it's the minimum. Usually I play more than that. But I don't know, really. I can read the spellcards and remember stuff, but it's just that I don't have enough reflexes or something. I'll try again, even though I don't want to.

>> No.17088748

>>17088714
I think you understand perfectly why, and you're just being stubborn. You'll never improve without facing the facts and accepting responsibility for your mistakes.

>> No.17088886

>>17068742

First time SMUP player. 3 months for EOSD normal. Cleared hard about 2 weeks later. Lunatic took me about 2 years on and off to beat.

>> No.17088930

>>17088746
Don't feel bad, I've been playing Touhou since 2011 and I've only 1cc thanks to the use of trainers that give me infinite lives. You can't suck more than me.

My eyes get tired and hurt when I play, and I got diagnosed with epilepsy in July 2016 so I don't play that much anymore because of the flashy lights and colours that can give me an attack.

You can enjoy Touhou with other things like the fanart, videos, official manga, doujinshis, arragements and many more things.

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>>17088661
You sound upset

>> No.17088952

>>17086326
Same here, cleared most of the games with ReimuA and recently I did SakuyaA on PCB, now I'm not sure if giving Marisa a go or trying ReimuB.

>> No.17089098

>>17088661
Try TD or IN on easy those ones are impossible to lose, if you can't do that after all that time then these games might not be for you to be honest.

>> No.17089147

>>17089098
>Try TD or IN on easy those ones are impossible to lose

I understand TD, but how is IN at the same level as TD? I always die one or two times with Keine, Marisa makes me use my first continue with that stupid Master Spark and Eirin finishes the job.

I would recommend PCB more, the only hard part are the Prismrivers.

>> No.17089235

>>17088568
don't you mean get niggered

>> No.17089551

I can feel my first 1CC coming if I could simply stop losing my spaghetti on remilia. She doesn't even seem that hard at this point but I shit my pants everytiem.

>> No.17089713

>>17089235
go back to 5-4 if you want to do that

>> No.17089845
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17089845

Is it considered shameful to bomb the random bullet storm spawned by the books right before EoSD Stage 4's midboss on Hard? I was once told I shouldn't bomb it on Normal and that it was really easy, and that learning to consistently doing it would improve my random dodging ability (I think it did help in the end), but is the same true on Hard, or is it actually difficult enough that bombing is justified?
I apologize if the above seems like a needlessly specific question.

>> No.17089848

>>17089845
bombing is for fags who can't git gud
The game clearly not designed for it and it's just a clutch

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>>17088661
Have you see this vid by any chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB_jJfjfzbo

>> No.17089961

>>17089845
Nah, those books may cause a lot of anxiety (for me, at least) but over time you'll stop dying to them except for on rare occasions. Death bombing or near death bombing is fine, but try your best to avoid wasting one there.

>> No.17089987

How long until the next Touhou game has time travel in it?

What would happen if there WAS time travel?

>> No.17090001

>>17077761
Sanae.

>> No.17090038

>>17089987
Maybe the Probability Space Hypervessel was supposed to be a time machine. PC98 is so wacky though. I sort of like that kind of feel.

>> No.17090466

why are there not really any gif/webms of gameplay?

>> No.17090526

>>17090466
The framerate makes gifs impossible, and combined with the resolution necessary to actually see what's going on, it makes all but the shortest webms too large for posting on imageboards. Plus, it's just easier to link to a video or upload a replay instead.

>> No.17090535

>>17090526
well fuck.

>> No.17090539

FUCK THIS GAME I WANT THE LAST 12 HOURS OF MY LIFE BACK
ZERO FUCKING PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE
I HAVE TO BE AT WORK IN 4 HOURS FUCK

>> No.17090549

>>17090539
normies btfo (I feel your pain though)

>> No.17090568

>>17090466
vp8/vp9 encoders don't have a touhou mode

>> No.17090729
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17090729

Story of Eastern Wind is a fun fangame that "remakes" SoEW but swaps most oldhus with windows era 2hus.
The playable characters are top fucking notch and it has 2 extra stages. The danmaku is still the same as SoEW and its very fun!

>> No.17090951

I did my first hard clear today ( MoF Marisa C) Im so happy.
>You, who has cleared hard, can now write "Special Skill: Good at danmaku shooters" on your resume.
Thanks ZUN.

If someone wants to comment.
replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=43271

>> No.17091405

>>17090549
I just switched from comfy NEET mode to work all fucking day mode and it sucks but I feel healthier

>> No.17091761
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Guys it's fucking happening. I'm learning how to consistently 1cc the Normal mode. Also holy shit Reimu B is heart pumping as fuck. I can't believe I actually managed to capture Swallowtail Butterfly and Getting Lost. I thought my heart was gonna stop during those.

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>>17091761
Wait till SA.

>> No.17091826

>>17091761
Needles Reimu is best Reimu.

>> No.17091832

>>17091819
Yeah I know, that one's hard as shit. But I was gonna have to get back to that game eventually. Not really looking forward to it because I hate the bomb system.

>> No.17092519

>>17091819
>>17091832
It's not that hard. Really.
>I hate the bomb system
11 may not shower you with as many FREE BOMBS as 10, but there are still plenty of resources for the amount of difficulty, and the shot types are pretty well balanced around not being at full power 100% of the time.

>> No.17093188

>Trying to 1cc UFO Hard
>Get to stage 5 with only 2 deaths
>Nazrin
>Death with bombs in stock
>Death with bombs in stock
>Shou
>Death with bombs in stock
>Death with bombs in stock
>Death with bombs in stock
>Death with bombs in stock
Looks like I should just try a no-bomb run at this point, so I can just focus on dodging rather than hovering over the X button and hesitating.

>> No.17093195
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OH GOD PCB'S EXTRA STAGE MAKES NO SENSE HELP

>> No.17093259

>>17093195
It's the easiest Extra in the entire series anon, what the fuck

>> No.17093288

>>17093259
Nah, Suwacker's is easier, but it's certainly the second easiest IMO.
>>17093195
If it's the stage part you're having trouble with, that's mostly just a matter of memorization. A lot of the shit is aimed, so don't panic, and make economical movements.

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>>17093259
>>17093288
Dude there's like bullets flying at lightning speeds all over the place, then Chen started rolling around all over my screen, Ran started doing this witch doctor shit and she starts teleporting and slingling blue and red balls of jizz and I have no idea what's happening.

Based on my first five attempts of the extra stage. I'll get to practicing.

>> No.17093345

>>17093298
Extra stages often have some special trick to beating the spell cards - watch a replay if you can't figure one out.

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>>17090729
>but swaps most oldhus with windows era 2hus
Into the trash it goes

>> No.17093666

>>17093288
>Nah, Suwacker's is easier
No and this has been discussed before.

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>>17093298
Phantsam is literally the last extra stage i completed after ten desires was released. it took me a long time to get it down. you can do it.

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>> No.17094187
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What's the best shot type in UFO?

>> No.17094294

>>17093666
Thank goodness you're here to stop everyone from discussing opinions that don't match yours.

>> No.17094308

>>17091761
What other games have you 1cc'd on?

>> No.17094385

>>17093375
hahah idiot

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>>17094308
Well let's see.
EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, and DDC are all the ones I've managed a normal mode 1cc on.
I skipped 9 because I didn't enjoy it, I struggled with 11, 12, and 15 because those are the hard ones, and I didn't play too much of 13 because it was boring and the gimmick made no sense to me.

I plan on going back to all the ones I didn't 1cc, but I wanted to restart from EoSD and go through the games again while also tackling on the extra stages. I beat Flan near the end of last year, and now that the JRPG craze of the early 2017 is over with, I want to get back to practicing Touhou again. So yeah, extra/phantasm stage practice now.

>> No.17094439

Does anyone know of any mods for EoSD that add a "press R on the pause screen to reset the game" feature like Touhou 7 and beyond have? The act of manually quitting the game (and I do know about the Q shortcut) and re-entering it every sixty seconds in practice minute is slowly killing me.

>> No.17094453

>>17094425
>the gimmick made no sense to me
Have you tried reading the manual?

>> No.17094467

>>17090729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9xtv-zna2I
This game looks awesome.

>> No.17094471
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>>17094453
Don't remember. I think I did and I still didn't get it. Whatever, I'll figure it out when I get back to that game.

>> No.17094486

>>17094425
I see, nice then, you may not have enjoyed 9 and 13 but those ones are actually pretty easy to 1cc on Normal. I did those two with Reimu and never touched them again, I might try the other girls later but first I need to 1cc DDC, do you remember which shot type you used in the DDC run?

>> No.17094506

>>17094471
You'd better brush up on your reading comprehension for 16 then, since it has a similar C-button mechanic.

>> No.17094507

>>17094486
I used Sakuya A because she's broken as shit and is disgustingly fun to use.

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>>17094506
I played the demo for 16 and totally got what each of the releases do, oddly enough. It made way more sense.

>> No.17094560

>>17094514
It's the same thing. Spirits fill up your meter, C releases it as a sort of 'alternate bomb' if the meter is full. It's just a bigger effect.

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>>17094507
Yeah, just tried it right now and Banki got obliterated in seconds compared to ReimuB.

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>>17094385
How so?
>>17094467
Why the fuck is Cirno the Extra boss of a Story of Eastern Wonderland remake
Why does Cirno have Yukari's theme, attacks based on the gimmicks of other characters like Youmu and Riesen, and at one point Yuyuko's giant paper fan, in a Story of Eastern Wonderland remake

Where the hell is Rika

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>>17094187

>> No.17094581

I think I read somewhere that the Touhou games before 6 are irrelevant. How is it so? Starting with TH01 and I'm enjoying it alot

>> No.17094621

>>17091761
Are you per chance >>17088433?
Because if so, I don't see why you would say you are doing terrible, I had like, only 4 1cc when I started posting progress here and so did some other anons.

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>>17094621
Ya got me.

>> No.17094662

>>17094581
They are just non-canon
Mystic Square is still one of the best mainline games

>> No.17094675

>>17094662
ZUN said they're only non-canon if they contradict the current games' canon. So the events all still took place.

>> No.17094680

>>17094662
why is that?

>> No.17094691

>>17094680
not being cannon I mean.

>> No.17094692

>>17094675
That's just a nice way of telling people to fuck off

>> No.17094809

>>17094187
ReimuA and SanaeB are both very great in UFO. ReimuA has very strong damage and an amazing bomb (slows her down while getting UFOs, but not too much) while SanaeB has great spread and an even more powerful bomb (which you can use in conjunction with her strong shotgunning capabilities).

The other shots aren't too bad aside from MarisaB, which is the only one you should not consider seriously using for a first clear.

>> No.17094910

>>17094675
You misunderstood. They only took place if they are mentioned in the windows games.

>> No.17095078
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>>17069555
It has gone to the point that it's actually along with LoLK the only touhou game i have never beat
>>17070807
I don't use Reimu very much but i will try this, thank you anon

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>>17094680
ZUN wanted to start the series over with a tighter continuity, so he rebooted the series and defined the setting a lot more in the next few games he made. The only characters that directly carried over from the PC-98 era were Reimu and Marisa (the two main protagonists, though Marisa doesn't show up until TH02), and shortly after Alice (the Stage 3 and Extra boss from TH05) and Yuuka (the final boss from TH04).
The reason ZUN wanted the reboot, I assume, is because the PC-98 are very loose and comedic, with lots of fourth wall breaks, no real setting—there are places the characters go but there aren't any details about them other than who lives there—and a lot more science than in later games. ZUN was probably also worried about power levels becoming an issue, because Touhou 5 has our protagonists (two of which are human) taking on the goddess of an entire world as the final boss, and without any of the spellcard rules implemented in Touhou 6 and beyond, it's implied that the characters are fighting with full force, meaning a character like Yukari or Yuyuko would simply be too strong to work as actual bosses without a ton of protagonist plot armor. That's just my speculation though.
I do hope some other PC-98 characters eventually make it to the Windows games, though. Mima, Rika, Yumemi, and Shinki were all interesting or fun characters I want to see more of.

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>>17095111
>taking on the goddess of an entire world as the final boss
Shinki?
god damnit zun you could have made it work, BRING BACK PC-98 CHARACTERS

>> No.17095349

>>17095319
Shinki wouldn't've had any problem existing in Windows canon, since spellcard rules work as a limiter for every character that could possibly exist. ZUN just hasn't brought back any characters since PoFV for whatever reason.
On the bright side, ZUN seems to be slowly warming up to the idea, since his attitude shifted from "please forget about the PC-98 characters" to "I might bring back Mima if I can think of a way to use her." The latter certainly isn't any guarantee of anything but "maybe" is better than "no."

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>>17095349
thank fucking god honestly, Mima and Shiki and two really great characters that need a fresh breath in new games
please ZUN make it happen

>> No.17095513

Guys I need help with the extra stage of lolk. I've been trying to beat it for a few months under a year now and the farthest I got was 15 seconds into heca's timeout spell. Before that I've 1cc'd all the windows games on Hard and beaten all windows extras aside from Hecatia and Koishi. Also I haven't been practicing it super often.

There's a lot that I only sort of get or can't complete consistently but the main thing that I need a strat on is the Lunatic Impact spell, it just deletes all of my resources.

>> No.17095532

>>17095513
Also I've been using Sanae and I briefly tried to do it with Reisen

>> No.17095690
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Stop saying that I'm not canon.

>> No.17095761

>>17095349
>"please forget about the PC-98 characters"
>"I might bring back Mima if I can think of a way to use her."
These mean the same thing. It's platitudes.

>>17095690
You are an existing character in an abandoned continuity.

>> No.17095815

Fuck 1cc no-bomb EOSD ReimuA.

>> No.17095817

>>17095513
Try doing an square like movement to misdirect the moons like this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3Iwhelnb4
Just ignore the memes
Also if you have been that far with Sanae, then you totally got this with Reisen.
>Before that I've 1cc'd all the windows games on Hard and beaten all windows extras aside from Hecatia and Koishi.
chart?

>> No.17095851

>>17095690
First, remove the dumb side ponytail.

>> No.17095867

>>17095817
wtf i love memes now

>> No.17095871

>>17095817
I don't use reisen because the pichun sound fucks me up mentally so I stop bothering, I don't like the big hitbox, and non homing shottypes just fuck my shit up in general most of the time

>> No.17098002

>>17095817
that retard is obnoxious as fuck
why does talent only go to the most annoying attention seeking faggots?

>> No.17098154

Who /mountainoffaith/ here?
Ordered the game last night cause I want to get into the Touhou games and I picked this one at random. Isn't this one distinct from the others in regards to the faith counter and something about bombing being tied to the power gauge instead of something on its own as there are no personalized spell card bombs?
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Mountain_of_Faith

>> No.17098434

>>17098154
I like Mountain of Faith. There's a lot of disagreement about how good it is, but I think its soundtrack and Kanako make it one of the most memorable games in the series for me.

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>>17098434
Is these glitches true? In the comment section of this video the OP acknowledges it but didn't show it in the video cause it made it too easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f64ThfroH5w

>> No.17098578

>>17098570
Yeah the glitch is there, it's a thing. Nobody uses it though in any actual runs for obvious reasons. I believe it can be patched out though.

>> No.17098599

>>17098570

It's real but you should patch it out or else beating the game with that shottype is pretty much meaningless

>> No.17098621

>>17098599
>>17098578
Oh, I'm not gonna take advantage of it, just curious.

>> No.17098921

>>17098570
>>17098578
>>17098599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy_VP9I6Jqw

>> No.17099556

I finally fucking killed Remilia after using a continue.
I could have 1cc'd it if I hadn't died so many times to sakuya.
Should I try again later and move on to PCB or keep working on EoSD? I know it doesn't really matter but I'd just like to know someone's personal opinion.

>> No.17099582

>>17099556
You can move on to PCB if you want and come back later for EoSD, that's what I did, don't hold yourself to try the other games either.

>> No.17099617
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Does anyone else think Stage 5 is easier than Stage 4 on EoSD's hard difficulty? I can make it through with less lives/bombs used consistently, and have even accomplished a NMNB on the stage portion, which I have not yet been able to get with Stage 4.
Sakuya herself still fucks me up pretty hard, especially that last card, but I can bomb through that if I'm doing well at the stage portion.

>> No.17099663

>>17099617
I agree it's easier, but I play on normal. I hear this game in particular isn't that different from hard to normal though

>>17099556
Play PCB, I personally find it a lot more refreshing to play a new game after grinding one out for a bit. You might come back to it feeling refreshed and properly doing it next time. Also, I find PCB to be a much better game overall.

>> No.17099673

>>17099663
I honestly think enough is different to force you to rethink all your strategies. In addition to all the patterns becoming thicker with bullets, some spellcards are changed entirely and there are brand new ones. It's pretty engaging and I'm glad they mixed things up for the harder difficulties. I'm not sure if Lunatic piles on even more additions or not though.

>> No.17101321

>>17099673
EoSD hard to EoSD lunatic is just twice as many bullets and occasionally faster. Some patterns go from pretty simple to hard as FUG, like green books.

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>>17045653
>tfw you 1cc'd eosd with default settings
>...as your second touhou game
Improve skill

>> No.17101754

Does anyone have a cheat engine table for Imperishable Night? Or at least know any codes for it?

>> No.17101785

>>17101754
Just look up SpoilerAL.
What do you need this for?

>> No.17102279

>>17099617
both stage 4 and 5 are 100% memo on hard mode, if you learn them you wont die to them ever again

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r8 my achievement

>> No.17102860

>>17102336
fukn supe I can't even 1cc easy mode

>> No.17102961

What is the absolute worst character/season combo for scoring?

>> No.17103355
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>>17094187
MarisaA

Fight me

>> No.17103425

>>17103355
same desu, no fighting required, yet..

>> No.17103484

>>17101785
I just want to know which address controls lives so I can set it to 15 at the start and finally go through the B stage

>> No.17103522

>>17102336
superplayer!!!

>> No.17104237

>>17103355
the only real downside she has is the slightly low damage compared to ReimuA. Her speed, both focused and unfocused makes her really comfortable to use though

>> No.17104383
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Just got my first NMNB for the stage portion of EoSD Hard Stage 4, and my first No Bomb victory for the stage as a whole (I lost four lives but one of them was really easily avoidable and I was an idiot for getting hit).
>>17102279
I can kind of see it for Stage 5 but Stage 4 has a lot of random portions, especially the book part.

>> No.17104453

>>17104383
the books and koakuma are the only parts that are random but on hard mode they're pretty trivial usually

>> No.17104460

>>17104453
Maybe I need to git gud then, because the books kill me or force me to bomb like 95% of the time. Koakuma is a bit better but sometimes the daggers come out in a way that fucks me.
The final section with the three fairies fuck me up too, but maybe I'm just not pacing when I kill them to cancel the bullets properly.

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>>17091761
Just tried Reimu B for the first time, looks like we had a similar final boss fight, but your score is better. Damn I was sweating on that last spell.
>>17104383
Nice! keep practicing anon.

>> No.17104902

Is TD no bomb no trance supposed to be this starved for life pieces? It also seems like fairies carrying life pieces show up on some runs but not on others, can anyone clarify whether this is the case?

>> No.17104926

>>17104902
Those fairies only show up if you destroy the ones before them quickly enough. And since trance doubles the resources from each piece, yes, you'll have fewer without using it.

>> No.17105034

>>17103355
I agree 100%
For the Ex, of course.

>> No.17105086
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17105086

So I practiced more of the extra in PCB. I didn't do very well. Pic related. I think I'm just gonna watch some videos because some of those spell cards made NO SENSE.

>> No.17105373

>>17105086
Have you played Extra stages before?

>> No.17105384

>>17105373
Flan's was cool, I guess.

>> No.17106575

What shot type is best for 1cc-ing PCB on normal?

>> No.17108437

>>17105384
When I first got into the series and unlocked Extra stage I thought it was going to be just a regular bonus level that you could even choose difficulty to play on, so I was surprised when I found out how they actually are. Some of them are easier to grind than others, but if it's really way beyond your skills you may leave them for later.
>>17106575
ReimuA gave me my very first 1cc, it's really easy to use, you can also try SakuyaA.

>> No.17108693

>>17068897
Numpad master race reporting in.

>> No.17108718

>>17108437
I asked because I 1cc'd EoSD recently with ReimuA and it felt much easier than this game with ReimuA, but I've heard many people say PCB is supposed to be easier.

>> No.17109184

>>17108718
Yeah, I actually 1cc'd EoSD after getting the 1cc on PCB and IN and out of those 3 PCB was the easiest of them all. It's a great game, stick to that shot type and you will most certainly achieve your goal.

>> No.17109261

>>17105086
Personally I think it's more fun to figure that kind of thing out yourself, unless it's really fucking with you. Discoving a spell's gimmick on my own and routing it out myself is very satisfying to me.

>> No.17109831

>>17109184
Well, I've been practicing for a couple of hours now and I've yet to capture a Youmu spellcard once. Pretty sure I'm doing something wrong because EoSD never felt nearly this difficult.

>> No.17109994
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Finally got my first clear with Marisa! I'm planning on finishing PCB then I might try to do a Final A run on IN.

>>17109831
Many people have problems with Youmu, have you watched some replays on her yet? It helped me a bit on some of her attacks.

>> No.17110005

>>17106575
Sakuya A, though Sakuya B and Reimu B are quite good too

>> No.17113422

>>17098002
You just notice them more.

>> No.17115628

Does anyone have advice for what to do when you just seem to hit a wall?

As I'd been doing decently on my attempts to beat kaguya, but now I've started having trouble focussing on my dodging and I'm getting sloppy / crosseyed when I'm trying to look at the bottom of the screen, and I'm just making a load of stupid mistakes. So I get to keine and then it all just goes to shit asI get forced down to the bottom of the screen and then I just lose all focus and get really sloppy as I just go crosseyed

>> No.17115980

>>17115628
Take a break.

>> No.17116143

>>17115628
quit.

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>>17104836
Thanks anon. Just managed a stage run where I captured all of Patchi's cards but one (it was Water Elf that got me, I even tried bombing out of safety when I realized my death but after the bomb I got cornered again; I can't seem to figure out the strategy with that card or whether the bullets are random or aimed). Things are shaping up nicely. I've found that when EoSD gets overwhelming switching to Len'en helps shake off my sloppiness since its cards are a lot different, and switching back to EoSD when I get sick of that similarly helps. I've been getting better at practicing individual stage runs in both games, though I'm starting to worry that I overdo stage practice and that I might be setting myself up to fail in full runs by not doing enough.

>> No.17117282

>>17115628
drinking bleach is my go-to for situations like these

>> No.17117528

>>17109994
Will she get gradually happier?

>> No.17117601

>>17116514
Taking breaks to play other games is always refreshing. Using practice mode on those particular stages is also a good idea, I don't do that too often though, mainly because I'm lazy so I aim for the full runs.
>>17117528
She is disapointed that I haven't beaten from SA to LoLK yet, so yeah maybe later or if I manage to score a Hard mode 1cc, not sure which game should I try first on that difficulty.

>> No.17117607

>>17117601
What about LoLK PD?
Also you should be fine with DDC, and it will help you play more aggressively.

>> No.17117677

>>17117607
Yes I did PD mode and did SA UFO etc on Easy but I don't consider any of these as actual wins, but atleast I had a lot of fun. DDC on the other hand is giving me troubles on Stage 4 and 5, Seija was a really painful surprise.

>> No.17117685

>>17117677
Well you can work your way up then, since you are almost in stage 6.
I noticed you didn't PoC enough in some of your PCB clears, and missed extra lives. DDC can help

>> No.17117691

btw new thread is here since this one is the next one to fall of from the catalog
>>17117673

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