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Yume doesn't seem to be anywhere online yet.

https://mega.nz/#!jVdHmSoC!bHEWTB1o_4U8JSBH5ASupTC-fOwYWtr64eKOLahzEEA

In the meantime, the English translation patch for the third part, Eternity, has been completed as much as we're able and willing.

>>16986042
Is it compatible with the latest version? The 1.2.0 one?

>>16986084
Yes, it is up-to-date with the current patch.
Enjoy Cirno being able to use Strike!

>>16985201
Someone is currently streaming the game.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv297729760

I completely fucking failed to screencap Mima's finisher ;_;

>>16986680
>marisa route, but drops nitori anyways
Pfft

https://pan.baidu.com/s/1eSsv8Qm
This is the dl link for the game, but the download time is extremely fucking slow.
If any of you wants to download it and upload it somewhere else than fucking baidu, you are welcome to do it.

I'm off for the night.

>>16986907
ETA three or so hours for me, will upload to Mega once I get it if no one else has.

>>16986680
>shinki isn't the final boss and byakuren is a party member
Alright, I honestly have no clue what is going to happen.

>>16986962
They are going full Super Robot Wars and making an OC to be the final boss.

Either that or Seihou Yuuka which appeared on the 2nd trailer will be the final boss.

>>16986971
That would be ridiculous, but not the worst thing.
Though I think it would be incredibly silly to have the final boss start out as a bonus boss who then becomes an event boss who then becomes a party member before looping back.

>>16985201
https://mega.nz/#!iZYDAK4b!GBNvRek7qn1VyoMgMatq6efr3eQ9DB6NHdV5uRNU6sQ
The mega link is ready.

>>16987090

thank

>>16986690
To be fair, almost everyone drops Nitori as soon as you get out of FMW1.

Oh man, I should play 2 and 3. Kou was pretty good, I can only imagine it gets better with the newer SRT mechanics.

Soundtrack upload when

Trying my hand at making a few webm's of the new attacks Sanbondo have their usual video lockdown till they finalize patching the game just to remind you all.

https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/myfdcm.webm
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/tysdik.webm
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/dmluyr.webm

Also seems like Parsee's new attack is glitched, it'll crash halfway through the animation and you'll have to skip it in order to continue the game.

>>16989377
>Kisume+Yamame attack
cute

>>16986690
Nitori is shit, senpai. Can't tank attacks better than Meiling, can't snipe better than Patchy and has terrible seishins

Should I use a FMW3 save or start fresh?
>>16987090
Thanks.

>>16989657
Use it

>The game didn't reset my stats
Fuck now I have a useless Murasa with +20 range

>>16989727
You should have just used that PS for the +20 Range anon.

>>16989791
I didn't expect the next game to punish me for wasting all my PPs during the lategame of FMW3.

Route A deals with Nue
Route B deals with Medicine
Roube C deals with Kogasa

You can do them in any order you want although I expect most people to do B last.

>>16989883
The one that fucks me up really bad is the A route. I only use the Palanquin Ship, Reimu and Mokou outta all those units.

>>16989940
Seriously? You don't use Mokou, Daiyousei, Youmu, Kiene, Ran or Mystia?

>>16990001
>>16989940
Er, sans Mokou, but really?

>>16990001
Not to mention Yukari and Yuyuko, who are among the best units in the game.

>>16989940
I can understand Alice's route because she has an incredibly large amount of the bad/power creeped characters but not Reimu's. Oh well, at least you can just use sub-orders and train them up between missions.

>>16985201

Anyone going to do a full lunatic run? Can you even change the difficultly during a full run or is that after you beat the game once on any of them? I don't think I have the will to take on Ultima Flan.

>>16990001
I replaced Daiyousei for Lily White. Youmu is has no range and waste too much MP on her attacks, Keine sometimes I used her to give Mokou some stat bonus, instead of Mystia I used the Prismrivers since I can buff morale, stats and debuff enemy morale with Lunasa's seishin and MAPW. Aside from Yuyuko my team consists of all these, ignore the order though since they are randomly sorted in this pic (this is FMW3 btw).

>>16990086
How do sub-orders and the other new mechanics work?

>>16990105
>Youmu has no range
Youmu has a max range of 6 which is far from no range. Her biggest problem in 3 was being an en hog like Marisa and the Prismrivers and not getting a damage spirit of her own as yet (so you needed to pair her with someone that had Triumph and/or Fury such as Reisen).

>>16990001
Eh Keine isn't very good in 3 and Youmu kind of falls off at the very end although she's still a very good damage dealer before then.

>>16990107
Sub-order works like in SRW. Pick some benched characters to give them EXP and PP.

>>16989458
Hah. It's a reference to the time in early Gurren Laggan when Kamina throws Simon at Viral.

I thought it might be the case, but when the attack misses and Kisume turns around seals it,

>>16989377
>Giving Murmasa a combo attack with the ship
>Not making it a METEOR reference with a giant anchor.

Disappointed Sanbondo.

>>16990102
I think the ability to change difficulty after finishing a run was something patched in later from the 2nd game onwards. 1st game didn't have that feature unless the newest patch retroactively added it.

>>16990086
Alice does have a lot of lackluster characters, but she also has Flan, China, Eirin, the Prismrivers, and of course Alice herself. Shouldn't be too hard to get a functional team out of that.

>>16990470
I'll probably just load her up with Counter or something. Alice has a ton of SP laying around thanks to Marisa.

>>16990001
Don't sleep on Shou, either. I haven't really even fed her and Nazrin hard and she manages to be one of my top 5 units in the game, which speaks even more considering she costs less than the other 4 in the list. Grit is seriously broken and her damage output with Nazrin supporting her for that +10% damage from her pair-up attack is nuts.

This game looks good. Is it turn based strategy ala advance wars?

Should I start from the first one?

>>16991027
It's literally a Super Robot Wars clone.

Just dumping a few more attack webm's

https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/fmazmf.webm
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/tuxxwe.webm
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/nafhfp.webm

And a blatant homage
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/kmfwgf.webm

>>16991104
>Baquartet Special
Nice.

>>16991011
The Buddhists were so so in 2 and 3 but they got a huge buff in 4 since they scale very hard with Will/Power thanks to the revamps that their personal got which changed Melee/Def/Hit up for raw percentage buffs.

>>16991049
Never gotten in that series since I'm not a mecha person. 2hus though... Guess i'll start with 1. I wanted to scratch an srpg itch.

I wonder if they can make a vocal track for whatever final boss they have planned, after all, touhouvania could get a vocals final boss song

>>16991180
>Not into mecha
pls
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skfHbfzor7A&t=678s

>>16991104
>https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/nafhfp.webm

It's even based off the Z1 incarnation of Final Dynamic Special (My personal favorite one)

>>16991104
How strong is Final Baka special?

>>16991217
The strongest.

>>16991104
>7000 dmg x4
depending on how much EN consumes, that Baka special is pretty good

>>16991295
Ehhh Mystia at least has better things to be doing than just attacking.

And looking at the video it costs 35 MP, and that's from each Baka.

Anyone have links to the previous games?

>>16991306
Is not that bad but to make it useful implies that you actually use the bakas and they all should have MP Save at least. Which I guess aside from Mystia nobody use them at all.

>>16991340
Wriggle is the weakest one. Cirno has +10% damage as a personal or is borderline unhittable if you use her friendship passive with Dai.

Rumia frees up Meiling to go with Sakuya or someone else while she enables Flandre/Remilia to use stuff other than Parasol outside of night time stages. Not to mention that she doubles as a will down bot.

>>16987441
Nobody likes the kappajew.

Even FMW4 drops her the second it finishes with her. Oh hey FA Nitori gets a upgrade event and a brand new attack! Finally maybe she'll be usable-.....
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/qlnjox.webm

[1/1 ammo, 3800 pwr]

Ahahahahaha...

>>16991295
It's actually not that good the base power of the attack is 3700, when you consider Yamame costs the same as any of the Bakartet and doesn't require you to deploy the whole group and has a 3600 pwr finisher it's pretty mediocre.

However that is the incomplete Bakartet Special the true Final Bakartet Special is unlocked near the end game so I don't know if it gets a significant power boost.

>>16991525
You'd probably get more bang out of your buck by giving Cirno the +cost item than trying to use the Bakatet Special.

>>16991525
>[1/1 ammo, 3800 pwr]
Oh wow, that's sad

>>16991525
>However that is the incomplete Bakartet Special the true Final Bakartet Special is unlocked near the end game
Dis gunna be good.

The horror

>>16991675
Is it being streamed right now?

>>16991525
So it's Great Booster without the power to make using it worthwhile.

>>16991525
At least the animation looks great.

Where do people download doujin games now that nyaa is dead?

So how long until FMW Complete combining all four games into one you all think?

What skill should I pick for Mokou? I have an extra slot now but I got everything that she needs already, maybe Morale+(Defeat)?

>>16991927
Go for reduced graze damage, it's handy for managing her health.

>>16991927
I went with Predict, Graze, WLB and Morale +Kill. Evasive units really like the graze damage reduction since you want to conserve SP for your damage spirits and it makes Yuuka's auto graze field less annoying.

Utsuho's pretty darn strong although the heat mechanic means that you'll probably only be able to squeeze out about 3 Abyss Novas before she cripples herself for the rest of the of map.

>Nuclear bird doesn't have a MAPW
I feel scammed

>>16992160
She does but her Heat gimmick is really limiting especially when she already sucks up EN at ridiculous rates.

>>16992160
>>16992156
Oh dear

>>16992177
Really strong but Reimu, Marisa, Flandre and probably a couple others will beat her thanks to personal skills or spirits. Okuu's annoyingly blind so she has no choice but to use the +40% Hit one.

>Murasa has S rank in water
>and a PS that gives +30% evasion underwater and +30% damage to underwater enemies
>still doesn't get to show off because water is so rare
Somewhere out there, Benkei is crying.

>>16992211
She would have been really darn great if you had her for the Nitori stage but since you don't all she's really good for with that one is killing Kappas.

>>16991764


There's been so many changes and updates since FMW1 they'd basically have to remake the entire 1st game again (and probably the 2nd too)

Any game in the series translated?

>>16992357
1, 2 and 3

>>16992156
Utsuho isn't really that strong but I like her enough to keep using her.
While I don't use attacks that raise the heat she can keep the buffs, right?

>>16992631
Abyss Nova has a fairly high base power and it works with Shotgunning which is why I called her strong. I think its something like 4800 at 5 bars which is higher than stuff like Final Spark.

>>16992656
>Shotgunning
I knew I was forgetting something. Forget what I said before, she's pretty strong.

The final chapter is about to be streamed.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv297801567

Come if you want to be spoiled.

And the Final Boss is...an OC

>>16992717
It wouldn't be a proper SRW fangame if they didn't pull that route anon.

>>16992717
Do you really expect a regular character to be the final boss?

>>16992717
Here's the final phase of the final boss.

In the penultimate phase she pretty much activates an even more broken version of Miracle an all the playable units on the field counterattack with their own Danmaku

>>16993026
>In the penultimate phase
I don't know how I fucked that up. It IS the final phase.

72 - Hisoutensoku
73 - True Bakatet Special
74 - Prismrivers get a new attack
75 - Yuuka joins at the end
76 - Vs. Meeko, Reimu and Marisa get a new combo at the end

>>16993026
7 Spellcards.

Holy shit this is going to be one hell of a fight.

>>16993026
7 Spellcards.

Holy shit this is going to be one hell of a fight, wait are those SS ranks?

That...isn't very fair...not even SRW has even done anything beyond S ranks.

>>16991927
I find Moukou also appreciates Pattern Type if you can fit it the ability to Counter and wipe the hell out mooks before they can even move works since Mokou does have the power to do it.

She doesn't really have the defenses or HP to pull off grazing so it's better to try pull a budget Sakuya.

>>16993489
Instinct 9, Graze Damage down and Predict should let her handle herself pretty nicely outside of enemies with ridiculous accuracy like Okuu at the end of 3.

>>16993449
SS ranks have been a thing since FMW2, though no one has had them naturally and they're rather hard to get - they're the result of stacking S Night (or, in FMW4, the adaptation spirit) on top of a natural S rank.

>>16986042
Wait, part 2 and part 3 were translated at some point? Link, if you may?

>>16993725

http://akurasu.net/wiki/Gensou_Shoujo_Wars/Translation

now don't say anon never did anything for ya

>>16993834
Thanks anon! Last time I looked at this series, I was resigned to how the rest of the series are never going to be translated after finding out how initial efforts to do so fizzled out

It's nice to know that I was wrong

>>16992631
I can't be the only one amused by that stage how nobody in the human village even blinks at the fact a radioactive nuclear raven is stomping around shopping there right?

Also Kogasa's finisher is adorable
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/mdtpak.webm

A question about the WP in Alice's Route, does graze damage count?

>>16994653
It says in the descriptor that graze doesn't count, so basically if numerically the enemy never gets a 'hit' by getting rng to match their hitcount then you pass the objective.

>>16993026
so how is the rooster for the final stage? those stats seem pretty damn intimidating

>>16995033
There's no cost limit so you can actually use every deployment slot. The biggest problem will be making sure that you cycle enough of a backline once you're out of the route split part early on.

>>16995056
otherwise you will end up with shitty underleveled units right?
seems harder than the Okuu fight of the last game

>>16995065
The hardest part will probably be deciding who gets the 1 range spots since there's a lot of characters who do really darn well with Shotgunning or have 1 range finishers.

>Defeat 9 UFOs in the same turn
As I suspected, Route A is going to be painful

>>16995183
>lv 18
oh boy
you are fucked

>Yuuka in Route B
Sounds like something for a NG+ or a immense favoritism/luck for the characters on that route since she just fully heals everything if you hurt her at the start of the enemy phase and you're missing most of the heavy hitters.

>New player phase theme: http://tindeck.com/listen/ejzog
>Suika's new finisher: http://tindeck.com/listen/vyayf
>Aya/Hatate combination: http://tindeck.com/listen/huana
>Iku's finisher: http://tindeck.com/listen/zdcew
>Medicine: http://tindeck.com/listen/szdws
>Kogasa: http://tindeck.com/listen/ybjoc
>Nazrin w/Pagoda: http://tindeck.com/listen/elusz
>Shou w/Pagoda: http://tindeck.com/listen/vwqlq
>Lily Black: http://tindeck.com/listen/mksib
>Eiki: http://tindeck.com/listen/kqrme

>>16995196
Somehow I made it with Reimu, Mokou and Murasa, but now Nue can't stop targetting Reimu and wrecking up Rumia.

>>16995351
Nue's later spellcards are a doozy so make sure you hang onto your bomb till the last bit, having said they're really well designed.

So does anyone understand how Satori's copy ability actually work? Like how does it select what moves to copy?

>>16985201
PS4 version when?

>>16996354
Tomorrow

>>16995233
>Fantasy Judgment of Seventy Years Later
not sixty? well maybe that's deliberate

>>16996707
PoFV came out almost 12 years ago

>>16996729
jeez

Maxing WP is so broken, holy shit
The unit gets
an extra move
1.5x EXP, PP, Points
+ 100 SP
+ 30 Max Power
and two of the following 5:
an extra item slot
1.1x something? idk
+2 unfocused movement, +2 range,
+1 focused movement
50% MP regen per turn
20% SP regen per turn O.O

>>16996838
Those aren't called Waifu Points for nothing

>>16995221
Isn't impossible. If only Reisen had Valor this would be a lot easier

>>16996912
I never said that it was impossible. Just very reliant on the units that you trained and hoping that the RNG doesn't fuck you over with Shield procs.

>>16996838
On one hand, that requires you to pour nearly your entire pool of WP accumulated across all four games into a single unit. But still, holy shit.

>>16996914
Anyway, tried again and I did it. She doesn't leave at all though, she just heal herself again and casts Strike and Guard.

>>16996938
Did you just full power mode spam Yuuka to death and hope that she didn't proc her shield?

>>16997131
Not really, I had the Prismriver trio do ~2000dmg, luckily Yuuka's boost didn't activate, after that I just did the same attack again.

Hello anons, It's been a long time since i've played GST and noticed the thread, did the second game ever get translated?

Is there a soft reset function in this game? Having to close the game and reopen it every time is quite bothersome.

>>16997445
The first 3 games are translated
>>16997461
L1+R1+Start

No idea what these new items do. I guess the first one gives you x1.5 PP but can't be stacked.

>>16997497
>1.5x PP, doesn't stack with the double PP spirit
>double exp, doesn't stack with the double exp spirit
>attack power +150, crit +15%, all attacks get barrier pierce

>>16997510
Wait, my bad. I'm pretty sure the first two are actually explicitly calling out that they DO stack with the corresponding spirits. Handy.

>>16997519
They're basically the Bronze and Silver Emblems from Z2 and onwards in SRW.

Any footage of Reimu and Marisa's new combo attack (the N-TD one) and Meiling's new attack?

Eh, Yuuka wasn't too bad although a boss with Bunshin, Shield and increased proc rates is just a huge pain in the ass due to the sheer RNG and I don't even think Direct Hit/Fury stops her from activating her shield.

>>16995233
>Nue: http://tindeck.com/listen/jvlnq
>Koishi: http://tindeck.com/listen/jesgd
>Satori/Koishi mental world: http://tindeck.com/listen/tcdcv
>Satori/Koishi reconciliation: http://tindeck.com/listen/nzkpp
>Satori/Koishi conclusion: http://tindeck.com/listen/ealya
>Makai map: http://tindeck.com/listen/xlefs
>Yumeko: http://tindeck.com/listen/bpxel
>Hokkai map: http://tindeck.com/listen/itghl
>Byakuren: http://tindeck.com/listen/ugzes
>Shinki: http://tindeck.com/listen/ufdjv
>Alice: http://tindeck.com/listen/bzfth
>Raysen: http://tindeck.com/listen/lxepz
>Toyohime: http://tindeck.com/listen/wrzom
>Three Fairies: http://tindeck.com/listen/kjmms
>Team 9: http://tindeck.com/listen/rrojs
>Catfish: http://tindeck.com/listen/yzyts
>HT: http://tindeck.com/listen/mtyoq

>>16998493
>Shinki's theme is called Ain Soph Aur

Is there a fullscreen mode? I'm used to doujin games using alt+enter, but it doesn't seem to work here.

>>16998759
F4

>>16998773
thank you

Windamium discovered in Gensokyo

>All these new characters
I'm finding it increasingly difficult to decide who to use.

Some more webm's of new attacks

Nue
https://my.mixtape.moe/jrkkvk.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/ciemcd.webm
Komachi
https://my.mixtape.moe/mlpvgr.webm
Shiki Eiki
https://my.mixtape.moe/cscama.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/tcoelg.webm
Tenshi
https://my.mixtape.moe/jimwes.webm
Koishi+Satori
https://my.mixtape.moe/pdsuqh.webm

>>16999489
Can you record the Shou and Nazrin combo?

>>17000201
There is two versions of it depending on who is carrying the pagoda upgrade.
https://my.mixtape.moe/uyqmcn.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/qvexbf.webm

>>17000218
Nazrin's version looks better and Shou gets more out of having the Pagoda considering she gets two new attacks out of it. I think who they wanted to get the Pagoda is obvious after this.

https://my.mixtape.moe/ntkpav.webm

Well this event was pretty amazing.

>>17000218

Shou is Final Attack?

Before GSW Yume release I hope Shou use
ソニック・ジャベリン + タイラントオーバーブレイク from Kouryuoh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP3ahLwstP0&list=PLOOyY4xvPfjgDxBXtSwUhZB8rdWl6wqFk&index=46

>>16999218
My team hasn't change much since the beginning of Yume desu

>>17001149
I like most of the new comers so its a bit hard for me to decide who to keep and drop.

https://my.mixtape.moe/qhphwy.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/imvajh.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/vzmeut.webm

has someone ripped the medicine attacks? or lily black's?

>>17001570
https://my.mixtape.moe/xrzpid.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/nqkgqu.webm

>>17001594
Its cool that they gave you an alternative source of Armor Down if you didn't want to use Suwako.

>>17001594
thanks. Lily's theme is great.

>>17001358
I love Meiling's new attack.

What stage do you fight seihou Yuuka and do you finally get to keep Yuuka this time? I invested a fair amount of WP and cash on her in part 3 and was annoyed she left and never came back after the IN stuff.

>>17001622
She's literally a Black Selena
https://youtu.be/3PTHBX-tnzE?t=54s

>>17001594
>that remix
In past, i would have feel despair over anything related to PoD, but recently branpresto finally fixed it and i mean completely, not W tier.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLBZr9MDdAI&t=2332s

Mima's new finisher seems a mix of both R-Gun Rivale and Shurouga.
https://my.mixtape.moe/cxwhev.webm

Likewise Alice's seems to be both DX's G-Bit attack + Mazinger's hundred rocket punch. Also I'm pretty sure at this point it's bugged too, since the finisher theme doesn't play normally and seems like it was meant to be a dynamic kill.
https://my.mixtape.moe/jchoel.webm

>>17001612
Really most of the older units that didn't get updates are all horribly outclassed at this point, though most of them did. Then you have those who did and still are outclassed, I think even Elly and Kurumi got a new attack, but nobody cares about them.

>>17001640
Sorry to say, she pulls a Shu/Granzon.

She is the penultimate boss of the game and a last chapter join basically.

>>17001652
>but recently branpresto finally fixed it and i mean completely, not W tier.

W had PoD Gai you can't fucking top that.

>>17001659
Yes you can, they fixed Yurika (much earlier this time) and make her stop Akito from doing his edgy "but now i must go because crawling my skin!" bullshit.

>>17001657
What's Youmu's final spirit? I hope that its Soul since I prefer to use her over Mokou since she carries a better spirit set and isn't that much weaker.

>>17001659
Yeah you can. By finishing its plot early enough for you to use him for over half the game instead of just 2 stages.

>>17001657
I'll be really disappointed if Mima doesn't get a Messenger from the Void remix

>>17001671
Oh that's cool, I should be finally getting V in soon, so I can finally see for myself. Only games I played with PoD was W and MX and yeah you get him pretty damn late in both.

>>17001652
The movie could've been bad but Black Selena and the music makes up for it

>>17001657
Mima pls, i know you are mad that ZUN forgot you, but becoming one with the edge is not the answer.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1fICXPr6T0
But the one with the actual remix of his theme is tenshi?

>>17001688
Mima going full Axion Asher with the Shurouga reference is 10/10

>>17001688
Reminder that pic related is fated to become one with the edge again. Reincarnation cannot save you from your edgy past.

>>17001657
>Sorry to say, she pulls a Shu/Granzon.
>She is the penultimate boss of the game and a last chapter join basically.

I sadly expected this. I hope she at least gets a good Faint dream ~ Inanimate Dream remix it's the only one of her themes they haven't used yet.

>>17001657
Fucking Yuuka, she learned from the master

>>16999489
Koichi+Satori was cute! unlike the one they are based from
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyNkDFb64Mo
Which for some reason i find super awkward. I think because i can't see those mechas as cute.

>>17001797
koishi other attacks when? been waiting 3 games to use her

>>17001797
>I think because i can't see those mechas as cute.

You have much to learn child.

>>17001819
I only care for a female mecha if it has a human face. Just see Nevanlinna, i bet Ryusei would die from an orgasms from seeing her.

>>17001839
>I only care for a female mecha if it has a human face
What a shame.

Do the developers managed to put a reference to this guy? he is behind EVERYTHING after all.

>>17001727
Yuuka basically has like the most themes now you mention it.

She has what? 4 character themes + LLS Stage 5 and Final Stage themes all belong to her so I think about equal with Reimu? Since Marisa has more themes by merit of being an EX-Boss in GFW.

>>17001806
Here you go
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/cshexn.webm

Also watch Koishi's event her finisher appears in the sequence and some of those other attacks don't appear anywhere else in the game.
https://my.mixtape.moe/ntkpav.webm

Anybody managed to get anything of Shinki?

>>17001863
>Koishi's attack
Wat?

>>17001898
>Koishi abadons the baby
>Survives long enough to find his way into his aunt's arms
I didn't expect this sick fuck to make a happy ending out of this.

>>17001863
Speaking of which, I haven't gotten to the showdown with Yuuka yet, but I'm hoping they pull out the LLS stage 6 theme for the map BGM. Dream World is fucking amazing. Best PC-98 stage theme.

Damn son, Mokou is a beast

>None of the bosses so far can break double digit hit rates on Reimu

They really should have made accuracy its own unit stat in this game.

>>17001358
I think Patchy's finisher might be a Dendoh reference?
https://my.mixtape.moe/havcac.webm

Murasa gets another new attack, Sanbondo seriously love her, think this one might be a Kurogane homage.
https://my.mixtape.moe/vjoggm.webm

Yumeko aka Sakuya++
https://my.mixtape.moe/xpbonq.webm

>>17002208
Isn't the Kurogane
https://youtu.be/z3hj6yc1Iqk?t=1m27s
>Murasa gets a Crossbone BGM AND a Mother Vanguard ram attack
and that's how she's never getting benched ever.

let's determine with what mecha anime each touhou song was mixed with. Who has a remix with "dark prison"?

>>17002208
Do you know if anyone from moriya shrine got anything new?

>>17002330
Sanae got back her MAP attack from the second game. But it consumes a ton of faith.
I'm not so sure about Kanako and Suwako.

Though I believe Kanako defensive capabilities got buffed.

So what game plots did they use for this? Seems like:

-SA Extra
-PofV
-SWR
-UFO
-Mystic Square
-And a bunch of OC stuff

>>17002483
Sanae in lv 60 gets a skill that makes her start with max Faith. If you use the Moriya gods with the skill that makes them receive boosts from Sanae they get pretty good.

>>17002208
>Murasa gets more attacks
Sounds good to me. She does really well as long as you pair her up with Nue or Ichirin for the friendship bonuses.

Did Sakuya get any buffs of note whether its in personal skills or something? She was kind of borderline in 3 since you had to tank her damage just so that she wouldn't die horribly to bosses.

I made it to the last stage, any tips?
Btw i think this might the last boss name translated. Yumewatari(or Yumeito) Makura

>>17002633
>Sakuya
>Dying
You must be doing something wrong because her Private Square skill should keep her alive. In fact, I use her with def support so she gives a free protection to some ally with no damage at all.

>>17002668
I can get Private Square to proc reliably but then she loses her damage from Time Paradox. Or the rng can just decide to not cooperate and I'd never see it proc even with Luna Dial 4.

>>17002633
No.

Sakuya is bar none the most screwed over of all the protags, she has nothing going for her. The only good thing ever had was back row Time Paradox in the first version of FMW3, but then they took that out.

>>17002688
Shame, she had her utility as a grunt killer but that's not even going for her anymore now that people actually have MAPW.

>>17002657
>All those bunnies
Is she a moonbitch?

I was doing just fine and then I got 2 Lyricas on the map

>>17002657
If you can record some of her attacks.

If the ship gets pichun, is game over?

What skill should I give Sanae? I have a free spot and I gave her Belief (back when Minakata was Melee), Will +Kill, MP Save and WLB.

>>17002732
Any good recording programs?
BTW people after the satori/koishi stage some characters went missing. Nazrin, Youmu, Kaguya, Udonge, Ran and Chen.
I think its a bug...

>>17002807
ShareX

By the way, what I'm supposed to do here? I guess they must reach the pillars in 4 turns but aside from that I'm not sure

>>17002732
There's someone currently streaming the final boss on twitch


>>17002657
Watch out for the spellcard where she summons shittons of mooks, she can fuck you over as that spellcard instead of ealing damage to your HP, it drains your MP..

Don't be afraid to waste your SP.
The final phase refills all your units HP, MP and SP to the max. (In the case of SP, it overfills it to 1.5 or 2x it's max capacity I can't remember very well)

Oh, and also the final phase is buggy as hell, some characters like Yuuka (mostly her finisher), awakened Byakuren and Hisoutensoku can crash the game.

>>17002836
Link?

>>17002849
twitch tv(slash)renuarb

>>17002824
Your 4 established units have to go to the white squares to weaken the seal and then you will complete the stage.

>>17002859
>Final Boss casts what looks like every Spirit Command in the game at her final Spellcard.

Holy crap Sanbondo.

>Last Marisa's spirit is Love
I'm disappointed on you, Mari.

Everyone is in position~
Any more tips?

>>17002824
>Patchouli's forced again
That's unfortunate considering that she's well under the level average. Hopefully 2 stages of bonus levels will help her out a bit.

>>17002980
She's an ok sniper as long as you keep her away from the enemy range. She's a decent atk.support unit for Marisa since both can snipe from around 8 range.

Finally a good MAP

How the hell do i damage her in ths phase!?
She will take magic from my units instead of damaging.

>>17003185
Kill the generic enemies with the MAP attacks of Toyohime, Yorihime, Shinki and Sanae.

And for Makura, I hope you gave most of you WP to Marisa, Flandre, Mima, Yorihime or any other character with Soul or Valor.

You'll have to pretty much kill her as fast as you can. Otherwise she'll make your units pretty much useless.
You'll get all your MP snd SP back in the next phase anyway.

>Yumeko is literally Sakuya if she was better in everything except for the lack of Bunshin

>It's a "Forced deploy with no one else to help you" episode

>>17003318
You at least taught Shou Will +Kill and MLB like every other Buddhist right?

>>17003334
Just Will +Kill. It's fine though, I just had to sit in a corner until the reinforcements came out.

Looks like the Heat mechanic is a bit broken. Dunno if the item that gives you an extra turn affected it but it just happened.

>>17003302
>>17003318

>>17003302
Exactly the way it should be.

>>17003302
That isn't true.

Sakuya is better at dying.

>>17003318
Oh Youmu is here to help too!

Except she is a dork.

What's the name of that new skill that I'm supposed to give Sanae for auto max Faith?

So the big question: does the Dream World look at least in some place vaguely how it does in LoLK, and does Doremy at least make a cameo, that says a lot on if future games are a hard no

>>17002688
>Sakuya gets screwed over
>in a game made by a Sanaefag
Hmm...

>>17004660
I was kind of hoping she would at least get a combo attack with Meiling but I guess that isn't happening.

>>17002688
>Sakuya's big thing is that she's Remilia's canon partner.
>Remilia is fucking awful.
>Meiling is a better partner in literally every way.
>Except Meiling is so good that you actually want her in front, making Sakuya's entire Counter/Blade Cut/Bunshin setup pointless.
>You used to be able to use Time Paradox in the back for free damage, but then they took that out.
>She got her sixth spirit first, and it was complete shit built around having her spam Support Attacks.
>But "good Support Attacker" includes just about every other good character.
>Also the majority of her animations are literally FMW1 tier.

I hope if they ever release a FMW Complete, they totally reanimate her like Battle Moon Wars did with some of the character.

So I brought over my savedata from FMW3 and was baffled by how ti wasn't letting me carry over my save data.

Then I opened up FMW3 to check and apparently I saved over my clear file on a NG+. FML.

What was I supposed to do and answer on the KoishixSatori scenario?

Can I marry Koishi in this game?
I really want to marry her.

A lot of HP in normal, took only 2 turns to take her down.
I bet that in Lunatic she has 1 million.

She's pretty and powerful look at that SS.

>>17004795
Meiling's good but I wouldn't say that she's that good. A great character when it comes to drawing hits and not dying but in terms of raw damage you can do much better.

>>17005009
Still kind of disappointed they went with an OC for the final boss of the series. Even SRW has used non-original final bosses on rare occasions (Char in Impact and Anti-Spiral in Z3.1, off the top of my head)

>>17005040
>Anti-Spiral
Technically the final boss in Z3.1 is Shikuu

>>17005040
It's a fucking SRW game.

>>17005040
They haven't done that since Classic SRW.

>B-But Z3.1

Was explicitly only half of the plot, and the final boss was technically an original anyways.

The entire point of having an OG enemy faction is so the game doesn't end up favoring one show's villain faction over all of the others.

>>17003533
Fuck off.

>>17005040
Z3.1 is just a half of Z3. If you are going that way then count Okuu on FMW3 at least

>>17004660
Creator bias a shit.

>>17003980

>Minoriko and Shizuha get two new combo attacks on the first Makai Stage

But how many people even use those two in the first place?

>>17005433
Oh, I don't have that one yet. Is it locked behind an event?

>>17005490
Level 66 is when she gets it.

>>17005477
>3600
>range 1-2
>That MP cost
nope, in the trash they stay

>>17005517
Even Cirno's better than they are by herself since Burning Ice turned in a 1.1x damage multiplier and she's borderline unhittable as long as Dai's her partner. I don't use Wriggle/Mystia so I have no idea how strong the FBS would be in the end.

>The new Sanae doesn't give stat bonuses to the Moriya gods
What a bullshit move, Sanbondo

"Hey guys I know Yuyuko was hands down one of the best units in Eternal, how can we break her harder?"

And then Yuyuko learnt Enable & Soul.

Devil Recitation Byakuren
https://my.mixtape.moe/vjoggm.webm

Superhuman Hijiri Byakuren (I think 'Fist beats Sword' would be more accurate, !Sakuya jobbed so hard)
https://my.mixtape.moe/cssmlp.webm

Dunno if the friendship bonuses affect it but the damage output isn't that bad as I thought for that Inazuma Kick (considering that they are at level 34)
https://my.mixtape.moe/ecfqun.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/ezfxrz.webm

"Hey guys I know Yuyuko was hands down one of the best units in Eternal, how can we break her harder?"

And then Yuyuko learnt Enable & Soul.

Devil Recitation Byakuren
https://my.mixtape.moe/afmqov.webm

Superhuman Hijiri Byakuren
https://my.mixtape.moe/cssmlp.webm

Remember, fists beat sword.

>>17005802
>Enable & Soul
Now I regret not using her in Eternal, she's way behind now Level and PP-wise to start using her.

>>17005040
I would've actually been peeved over pretty much any final boss from canon aside from the dragon god, and even then I'd raise an eyebrow over using a character we know so little about.

Who COULD it have been, even? Byakuren or Miko? Both fairly inappropriate. Junko's pretty rocking but a ways away from where this series ended, and even so her beef is not with the cast.

>>17004993
>「幻想少女大戦」 ターン -/-
Sanbon, you cheeky son of a bitch.

Does the catfish have any attacks based on this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLYzdcEo_e0

>>17005802
>Enable and Soul
She needs a ton of PP and SP to really take advantage of those though considering their costs.

>>17006540
Yuyuko by mid game has easily almost 200ish SP, she has the highest raw base SP in the game and a natural SP Up. Combined with at least two different PS both give her a means of SP recovery and by that point in the game you also have access to a item which can recover a solid 60 SP in one go.

If there is one thing Yuyuko doesn't lack it's SP.

>>17006564
Yeah but Enable is easily the most expensive spirit in the game so a single cast can really drain her SP even if its base is really high.

I'd be more keen on it if you could choose when you wanted to activate Extend.

Is there a menu translation pastebin like there was for 2/3?

I wonder how high Youmu's burst damage can get with this new personal.

>>17005802
You forgot this one, senpai
https://my.mixtape.moe/xtksny.webm

>>17006771
So does Byakuren unlock her attacks as the stage goes along? She only has that melee skill for me.

>>17006797
You gotta activate her Super Mode

>>17006771
Holy shit.

>SP Regen and Extend on a unit with a double PP spirit
And this is how you break a game

>>17005040
SRW (and PxZ like games) are literally tge only tyoe if super crossover allowed to have OCs as final bosses. Trying to use a canon character from one of the series as final boss would only cause massive amounts of fighting between the fans because "my series character is better than yours".

>That Byakuren debut stage
It feels like I'm doing battle against Remi in FMW1 all over again.

>>17002633
At level 65 or something she gets a PS that lets her get two extra turns from the Continuous Move spirit.

Good luck actually getting her to make use of that though.

>>17007096
That's worse than Time Paradox though. They should have just given her Time Paradox 2 that reduced the skill requirement to 20 along with a minor stat buff. Youmu for example get a minor buff when she regained her MAPW in 65 since it also came with a range buff on Meditation Slash.

The Shinki chapter was far more epic than any midboss has any right to be. It was also kind of unintentionally funny how Shinki keeps upping the ante with each stage and Byakuren just simply powers up to match her blow for blow every time. Every single attack was amazing to watch.

https://my.mixtape.moe/xexzbe.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/awqfvj.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/cxfbrr.webm

>>17002633
Sakuya gets a upgrade here, seems like a buff enough to me.

https://my.mixtape.moe/ejuhxz.webm

Why on earth those translators don't bother to translate something as important as :
- Unit, character, or weapon menus
- Intermission menus
- In-battle dialogue
- Spellcard names

>>17007187
>Yumeko
She joins after the Byakuren stage right? Just one more stage to go til I can drop Sakuya because there's simply not enough space for her to be mediocre.

>>17007194
>They don't they bother
Because while they do have the information for most of those things, technical issues are a thing.

>>17005517
If I remember the Aki sisters actually have a hidden friendship bonus which spikes their damage to crazy levels as long you use the right Personal Skill and Shizuha's version of the comboes are shooting based so she can Shotgun.

Result is if you want to use them you can effectively run around with something like a permanent 1.7x damage boost.

>>17007194
They did bother.

Problem was it completely crashed the game because as it turns out Sanbondo coded things in a weird way where the game refers to the names of things rather than their actual entries in the later games. As a result attempting to translate those things actually break the game beyond repair.

>>17007237
How exactly do friendship bonuses work in FMW anyway? I'm wondering if its better to just stack them at all times especially if say Lunasa/Sunny can get the full effect when combined.

Does any character get something like curvy lasers? those were a big thing both in UFO and MS.

>>17007237
Friendship bonuses to damage don't go above ~50%, and the Aki sisters can't cap their friendship bonus anyway. I think they max out at around 15%, maybe 25% if you throw in their other friends as well. Which is still a very nice bonus, but not outrageously huge.

Sanae, on the other hand, can outright max her friendship level. It's not trivial - you need friendship-boosting personal skills, and need to keep her clustered up with Reimu, Suwako/Kanako, and the three tengu, but when you take Sanae's already good stats and stack +66% accuracy, +66% evasion, +51% damage dealt, -51% damage taken, and +51% crit chance on top, the results are truly miraculous.

>>17007244
A friendship is activated only by units directly adjacent to you and in the front of their team and whoever is in the back of your team. Once you pass +4 friendship you get damage/defense bonuses as well as evade/hit.

http://akurasu.net/wiki/Gensou_Shoujo_Wars/Friendship_Bonus

Realistically only a few units can really abuse them, Merlin comes to mind as another easy one. Equipping her with her friendship bonus then putting her adjacent to Lyrica and Lunasa with maybe Yuyuko or the 3 Fairies if they're nearby. You should find she hits almost as hard as the combined unit.

It's pretty much why the Prismrivers are the most damaging unit in 3 because you can have Lyrica force a support attack with her PS from a heavy hitter. Have Merlin follow up with an attack too which hits extremely hard due to friendship then combine and get another free attack with Lunasa. Or even more if she has support attack.

Only other notable ones I can think of are Flandre and Marisa and the PCB cast who have the means to really abuse their bonuses.

Basically it's more of a Lunatic mode thing where you need to squeeze out more damage.

>>17007294
Couldn't Cirno get a lot of out her friendship bonuses in 4 now that the FBS is a thing?

>>17007299
Possibly. Only way to know is to try it, there does seem to be shift in balancing Cirno more towards a leading damage role instead of a hard to kill support she was in previous games.

>>17007187
Shinki's last attacks reminds me supreme god Z's attack.

>>17007352
I haven't really used Mystia and Wriggle but I can confirm that Cirno is surprisingly capable for a 2.0. Her biggest problem is that her base power is on the lower end so she'll need to take the Cost Up item to bump it up.

>>16998493
>Prismrivers: http://tindeck.com/listen/tyjmk
>Yuuka: http://tindeck.com/listen/jjjld
>Reimu/Marisa combination: http://tindeck.com/listen/mfpcz
>Meeko: http://tindeck.com/listen/wajij
>Makura: http://tindeck.com/listen/iqnkr
>Stand-in for the obligatory final JAM project track: http://tindeck.com/listen/pvysw

"Makura" means pillow. The final boss is named pillow.

She's a baku who rules the dream world, so ZUN creating Doremy blew Sanbondo the fuck out more than anyone could have realized.

>>17007380
The final boss is a fucking baku? Couldn't be something mighty? Doremy herself is a joke that gets raped by hecatia and only remains relevant becayse people ships her wuth sagume (ironically, the person that draw hecatia raping her also ships them).

>>17007413
The panic theme is Border between dreams and Reality.

>>17007187
>https://my.mixtape.moe/xexzbe.webm
>https://my.mixtape.moe/awqfvj.webm
>https://my.mixtape.moe/cxfbrr.webm

I hate your dolls, daughter. I hate them so much.

>>17007380
Goddamn, now that I remembered Junko and Hecatia, it makes me fucking wish Sanbondo reconsiders making more games covering Touhou 13-15 / Touhou 13-18 whenever that happens.

Seija, Shinmyoumaru, Clownpiece, Junko and Hecatia, could make extremely interesting bosses in the games.

Though they would probably have soft-reboot everything and retcon stuff from their story.
And also reset the levels and skills of the characters and start from zero again; as starting a whole new story with everything we have until now would be a massive balancing mess.

>>17007525
A soft reboot would be ideal. Probably start at 13 and GFW then go forward from there. Maybe we can get characters like Kasen too.

>>17007525
I would actually like 1-5

I love this dumb bird

>>17007640
>Okuu's heat resets
How?

>>17007711
It's a bug caused by this item that gives you an extra move if you kill an enemy.
If you get an extra turn after using a Heat rising attack, it will reset. As you can see in >>17003513 The Heat bar shows the same number that you had before the attack.
But don't use a Heat rising attack for your second move because that one gets checked for real.
Here >>17007640 I used the MAP on my second move so it confirmed that I passed the limit and overheated.

tldr; you can spam Okuu's MAP once per turn without Heat penalties.

What's this?
Are they asking for a name of the group?

>>17007767
Yes.

Too bad it never comes up again.

>>17007525
I think they'd do a soft reset yeah. Maybe not retcon? It'd just be a sequel like any other SRW sequel, stuff happened and characters are still around but plenty are retired. I think returning people would be limited to people who actually appeared in the games they're covering (e.g. Sakuya, Youmu, Reisen), people who are easily relevant to them (pretty much anyone related to the Moon when LoLK rolls around, they'd definitely put the Watatsukis in that, Yukari's relevant to Kasen, etc).

I could maybe see really popular ones like Remilia, Utsuho, and Alice maybe making it back despite being ancillary but the likes of Mystia or the Akis would probably go into retirement, and unless Yuuka really gave Cirno the ultimate power anything PC-98ish wouldn't be around.

I hope Sanbondo moves on and does their own thing. Maybe make a definite version of the series that unifies the mechanics for a single play-through and lets you NG+ with every unit from the start, but...

Honestly I want to see where they go from here. They have tremendous talent and a clear passion, and Dream makes it clear they can easily handle making their own stuff.

FMW has kind of...reached a critical mass point anyways, and it kind of shows in 4. There's a plehtora of times where a older unit is given a new attack or ability with a meager explanation at best because they simply cannot handle that critical mass of units any longer, and a soft reset...well, it wouldn't really be FMW anymore, would it? The entire point of the story was have Gensokyo unify, in true super robot wars fashion, and they'd have to go to some serious pains to explain why many people aren't returning. Combined with the headache-inducing issue of "well then, whose waifus do we bring back..."


Well, Sanbondo made this the last game for a reason and I can respect that. It kinda makes me sound like a dumbass for saying this, but I'm happy they made their dream for us, and I wish the best of luck for them for whatever they do next, be it as a group or as individuals.

>>17007782
>Too bad it never comes up again.
I won't put much thought on this and I'll just call them ZEUG then.

also the cutscenes got out of fucking control early on in 3 and holy shit.

clarste put it best. "here’s to you, #1WriggleFan who cheers whenever Wriggle says “…”"

>>17007804
I just want them to make FMW Complete Edition and I'm good.

I don't think it'd be that hard to justify non-returners - a lot of them are just side characters that barely show up in even the more open print works. Nobody in the underworld leaves the place aside from Koichi who'd be around anyway, and there's a lot of random youkai and such who don't have much of a reason to get involved in the first place. Literally the most popular characters I could see 100% getting the shaft are like, Komachi and Eiki (and Komachi even hung out with Kasen early on so she might come back anyway).

There's a lot of stuff they could clear and a good natural break-off point. Hell, I think they have enough material as-is to make a somewhat smaller but more interleaved plot - I could see the faith war, the Miracle Mallet, and the appearance of frantic fleeing Lunarians all going on at once and then being resolved late in the game in that order.

They should probably wait to see if WaHH and FS end conclusively though, and if the Urban Legend incident actually gets resolved soon though.

>>17007804
They should at least make a FMW Complete Box before giving up on the series. There's quite a bit of stuff in 1, 2 and even 3 that could use some fine tuning using what they learned from 4.

I would like to see a FMW Gaiden that showcased the characters from the newer games but that probably won't happen.

>>17007825
I don't think anyone would complain if the majority of the Stage 1/2/3 or even some of the Stage 4 bosses dropped off the face of Gensokyo if they ever made a follow up game. Most of the actually relevant characters are from Stages 5 and 6 and there's certainly not enough of them to do even a FMW2 sized roster.

>>17007834
Literally the only 1-4s that have a good reason to show up are the ones that are actually in later games (which is just like, Cirno, Aya, and Nitori really), and maybe the UFO crew (faith war's as good a reason as anyway to give us a proper fight against them too!)

>>17007826
If they were doing a Gaiden game I'd actually be more interested in it covering the PC98 stuff.

There's another bug with the Continuous action spirit. You can only cast it one per turn but with the Prismriver trio if you use it, after you get the extra turn, separate them and combine again.
You'll be able to cast it that spirit again.

>LL
I've never expected Ignore Size to be useful in this game at all

>>16989096
As a heads up Marissa route has the best upgrade stage.
Hell Marissa is flat out the best beat stick you can get.

Chapter 73 is giving me a headache. Being surrounded by shadow clones was bad enough, but then they throw in Yukari, Flandre, Yorihime,etc.

>>17008101
Marisa's upgrade event was great.
Reimu's upgrade was just Yukari going "Here, I made this for you" and that's it.

>>16996838
Good thing I dumped all of my points into Marissa.
>>17008122
That moment when the intro to Stardust Hero kicked in is legit one of the best parts of any SRW game I've played.
Seriously it's amazing how they made Marissa a better character than Reimu.

>>17008142
>All that build up with Mima
>That event where she saved Marisa in the Underworld
Reimu's route is so boring compared to Marisa's.

>>17008101
Seeing those nips on dialogue gets me trigerred after playing SRWV and OGMD.for EOP.

so cobu or Ibiza?

>>17008160
Both are great but I'll choose Ibiza because he turned "The Venerable Ancient Battlefield" into Jam Project's Rocks and Crossbone Murasa

>>17007187
You know. I had guessed that Shinki would be the final boss of FMW before they revealed the OG characters.

But man does she still look the part.

>>17005829
Just stick her in the back of a twin and cast Gain/Cheer on her until she catches up.

>>17008228
She isn't even near as tough a midboss as Kaguya in 3 was despite spamming reinforcements and MAP attacks like no tomorrow and basically having Kaguya+ skills/stats.

She is very squishy for some with a barrier, even Remilia is actually good in the Makai arc because the entire thing counts as night and she has a passive barrier break on her finisher.

Then you consider you recruit Byakuren at full power on the stage and she is basically a one woman army, it's incredible how much she can break everything with nothing but brute strength. Her damage output is easily on par with Marisa.

>>17008122
Reimu's upgrade stage is just set up for the event where she kicks Yorihime's ass.

>>17008510
Is it bold of me to say that I think Byakuren is hands down the strongest character in the entire series, ignoring join time? She has two sets of Spirits, with pretty much every single one of them being useful, good mobility, good armor, good Hp, super high damage output both up close and at a reasonable distance, and she also has the most kickass animations. Oh, and a very good barrier.

I mean, Reimu wins in the dodge game by a country mile, but she goes out like a light if she gets hit.

>>17008648
I think Reimu and Marisa kind of peaked in 3. They're still great characters but they don't stand out as hard anymore in 4 now that a lot of characters got upgrades/new characters on their level show up.

https://my.mixtape.moe/brqsyg.webm

>>17008704
She told us so and we didn't listen and now everything is fucked.

>>17008648
I feel the same.

Byakuren is just completely off the charts insane, she pretty much waltzes up to bosses with complete disdain for any gimmicks or penalties and attacks on her turn whilst receiving minimal damage in retaliation between her insane HP/Def and barrier. As if that isn't enough she is really dodgy as well.

Reimu isn't even the dodgiest unit in the game anymore, Satori easily matches Reimu in the dodge game. Satori is arguably even better since she can copy any attack in the game irregardless of activation costs but with +400 more power. It does lead to the funny situation of Satori suddenly cloning herself and transforming when it comes to combinations. But used properly it's virtually like having TWO of any unit you want oh and she has Attune as a added bonus.

Not to say Reimu isn't still excellent, she does still have one of the best spirit sets in the game despite a bad SP base...her higher levels of Youkai Buster or S Sky rank do wonders.

But I went through the whole Shinki fight wondering when Reimu would ever get a turn to attack between Byakuren steamrolling her and fearing for Reimu's fragility. Ultimately Reimu never got a turn.

That is just nuts, normally when you get a new recruit you try have them hide out of the way so they don't kill themselves due to having no opportunity to upgrade them. Nope, Byakuren just dives in and slaughters everything without any customization on her debut needing nothing more than a occasional Faith/Replenish.

>>17008671
Marisa still has her use for burst damage, I still haven't seen any unit who can naturally reach 15kish damage without weapon upgrades besides maybe Flandre at full power.

>>17008845
I'm wondering if sticking Reimu with the Sky S Rank is more useful than Youkai Buster for her overall considering that its just what, 5% less damage in exchange for 10% more accuracy and evasion?

>>17008854
I'd like to compare that sometime, terrain ranks do mean a lot in this game after all. Most of the humans are pretty useless in Makai having to run a item slot or have their terrain rankings shot.

All I know is Dream is a really excellent meaty game and I am going to have so much fun in future replays breaking it. With how overpowered everything is, I feel like Dream might be designed around Hard/Lunatic difficulties now.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yzwcrj.webm

>>17007804
Saw some of their celebrations and tears through twitter, hope they do stick together

>>17008160
cobu. They're both amazingly talented, but at this point I think cobu is flat out my favorite Touhou fan musician. Ibiza tends to have better instrumentation choices in his arranges, and is remarkably good at melding bits of multiple songs into a cohesive whole, but cobu's tracks tend to be cleaner and catchier, not to mention generally more strongly evocative in cases where that's relevant - see every song from stage 55, for example.

>>17008185
Murasa's theme is an odd case. In-game it's credited to Ibiza, but IIRC the preview version from FMW3's soundtrack was listed as cobu's.

>>17008928
It could very well be a collaboration, it's not unusual for some to simply compose a song but then leave arrangement/instruments completely to someone else. cobu and ibiza do regularly like to remix/arrange each others tracks as evidenced by bonus tracks on the OST's.

The doujin scene has always had lots of talented remixers/arrangers but actually not that many good composers.

>>17008928
It's because Ibiza fixed it for FMW4, Cobu's Crossanchor Murasa is terrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik-aoafnxZ4

https://my.mixtape.moe/qjvmhq.webm

>>17008959
That was my suspicion. While I fucking love most of cobu's work, there's a reason I called him out for having worse instrumentation. I figured Ibiza would have the good sense to avoid that awful synth in the melody.

>>17009083
Sometimes it's the other way around, I prefer Cobu's Price of life, it fits better the game (and makes the reference even more blatant)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZwgSDesNDg
Here's Ibiza's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqYH6TVYuHk

>>17008892
Youkai Buster's still Reimu's best PS. That Sky S personal doesn't change Reimu's weapon terrain unfortunately so you'll have to give her that part for it instead.

This PS is really fun, too bad it's way too random to be useful normally.

>Yuuka's Master Spark lost a full third of its attack power compared to 50 stages ago
>it's still terrifying

>>17009318
Its a lot like Lelouch's ace bonus in SRW. If you luck shit some good ones like Valor, Soul or Direct Hit its pretty darn good. Saved me a couple times in Makai.

Which character had the best pre and post upgrade themes?
Reimu or Marisa?

clips.twitch.tv
/
CourteousInnocentRuffPMSTwin

I found and clipped the Final Baka Special from that guy who was streaming, it's pretty good. Appearance wise that is, its a 1 ammo attack (I think, I didn't pay too much attention) so even if you want to use it that's a definite once per stage, with only a few stages left. But as someone who loves the group I'll be sure to kill the final boss with it.

>>17009474
>pre
Reimu, but it's close.
>post
Marisa by far.

Speaking of OST, what are standouts and what are some of the lesser ones?

I'm big into Medicine and Yumeko's themes but I couldn't help but be disappointed by Hijiri's, I was hoping for something really kickass action hero-ey but it's just sorta there.

>>17009900
I was disappointed by the Final Bakatet Special theme although that's probably because I was expecting them to make a parody of this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahd2YZc8eMY

>>17009900
I know what you mean, I had similar hopes for Shou's new theme. Ibiza's take on the song was one of the only FMW tracks that's ever left me outright disappointed, and played a significant role in my decision to bench Shou through the second and third games. I was holding out hope that she'd get a better arrange when the pagoda upgrade happened, and while the new theme is a definite improvement, it still doesn't capture the sheer majesty of the original. It's not a bad arrange by any means, but every time I hear it, I find myself wishing I could just give her the original song in its place.

This one's for the waifu, it was a fun journey through the entire series.

>>17009900
The outright best theme in the game is the Fires of Hokkai arrange: http://tindeck.com/listen/itghl

After that, my top 3 are:

1. Koishi
2. Prismrivers
3. Kogasa

That's not to say the rest are bad or anything: Sinking Civilization is really good, Dreaming Beauty grew on me, as a flower is super fucking long and that's amazing, Our Hisoutensoku charmed me with how "generic SRW arrange" it is, etc.

The only theme I'd say is an outright wash is Meeko's second theme. Just, why?

>>17009900
Medicine's theme, Yuuka's boss theme, Yumeko's theme, Shinki's theme, and Parsee's theme stand out as my favourites.

I dislike both of Shou's arranges (despite loving the character) and I don't particularly like Mokou, Yamame, Yuugi or Youmu's themes.

3 Fairies
https://my.mixtape.moe/tqxzmj.webm

Raysen (Oddly really nice for a character with no official spellcards)
https://my.mixtape.moe/bjgjli.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/hwztrc.webm

Yorihime (Genuine surprise that they re-animated her attacks)
https://my.mixtape.moe/aegzxa.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/heiadc.webm

Toyohime
https://my.mixtape.moe/fssbxk.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/xpbqox.webm

Sanae+Suwako
https://my.mixtape.moe/hlkzxz.webm

>>17010193
>and I don't particularly like Mokou, Yamame, Yuugi or Youmu's themes.
But all of those are great.

>>17010211
And I don't like them. Seems we're at a standstill.

>>17009900
If you're talking about sounds that debuted in Dream alone, the best one would be Fires of Hokkai. After that would be Koishi, Yumeko, Kogasa and Medicine in no particular order.
Meeko's first was really good and Murasa/Hisoutensoku feel like I was playing SRW all over again.

Disappointments would be Bakatet Special and Nue's second theme because it was a step down from Heian Alien back in 3.

>>17010199
Yorihime's attacks were kind of janky back in 3. She really wanted a few touch ups.

>no masaki's cameo
Wasted​ opportunity, he is the only one that would make sense to suddenly appear in Gensokyo.

>>17009588
I'll make a webm just in case.
https://my.mixtape.moe/eokytj.webm

>>17010231
That goes beyond a touch up, it's a plain overhaul.

>>17009148
>Youkai Buster's still Reimu's best PS.
Easily debateable, Reimu learns another PS later on that grants her a free Zeal cast when she activates Musou Tensei pretty much freeing up all of Reimu's SP. In effect matching Marisa's Danmaku Power Lv3, unless Marisa gets a new more powerful PS later on I haven't seen.

>>17010855
Can Reimu even afford to cast Sense + Soul twice?

And Tenshi of all people is the one who gets the mandatory G-Gundam reference.

https://my.mixtape.moe/mriigw.webm

>>17011004
You'd probably have to invest in SP Up and Extend to pull it off.

>>17010855
Marisa gets a PS that dumps all of her MP into her next attack. It's pretty goofy.

There's a bunch of cool new personal skills this game. My favorite is Kanako and Suwako's: they both get a one-use PS that casts a spirit on the entire party, two if they're at 120.

Suwako casts Adapt (set all terrain ranks to S, except for Night which goes to A. natural S ranks go to SS) and at 120 power Triumph.

Kanako casts Accel and at 120 Power Assail.

>>17011015
Probably something like that. Reimu's SP pool is a little too shallow naturally for her to pull it off unless she's fighting something that can't hit her naturally so you'd get to put that extra SP into something else.

It's probably for a similar reason why Youmu's +10% Damage, -1 Focus Movement personal is more practical than the 2.25x damage through Soul one.

>>17011026
I honestly feel her new PS is better than Danmaku Power. Her damage output gets nutty if you toss one of the MP increasing items on her, and at the point in the game you get it Koa's gonna have enough SP to cast the full MP replenish spirit 3 times, then there's also the beer consumable...

Basically, it's a supercharged nuke. I've managed to hit a 19k with it on my super sub-optimal Marisa (I went reimu route), which has only been surpassed by Yorihime in my game.

>>17011150
I keep meaning to deploy Koa but I haven't really come across a boss so far that makes me want to use her in FMW4 so she's a bit behind. Maybe if they bumped the cost limit past like 60 then sure.

>>17011172
I use Patchouli in my team, so using Koa as well is a fairly good option to expand the finishers she can use. Near the endgame the cost limit goes up to 70, then infinite for the final chapter, so it's worth considering.

>>17011026
Do they cast it just went they are at 120 of they cast it every turn after getting 120 Will?

>>17011228
You have to choose to use it. It just gets an additional effect if you use it when they're at/above 120 power.

>>17011224
>Only 70 when almost every new character costs 3 or 3.5.

I can't even find space to squeeze in Eirin as a resupplier and now they're starting to add the cool characters like the moon sisters. I literally only get to squeeze in characters because you can use force deploys to get around the cost limit.

>Yorihime's playable
So does she keep that gimmick where she can break 100% hit for bonus damage?

It feels so great to wreck Yorihime so easily even if this is a clone

>>17011150
Well tried messing around with burst damage to see what kind of numbers you can pull, obviously too early to do proper trials especially since I haven't even seen the full skill lists or finished the game but what I pulled shows some interesting stuff.

Few notes:
-Hyper Byakuren and Reactor Utsuho have the highest raw weapon power in the game I've seen so far so threw them a bone
-Everyone got a 10 bar weapon upgrade
-Everyone is at 150 pwr, this obviously disadvantages some who scale even higher due to skills
-All attacked the same enemy

Damage:
-Byakuren- 16864 damage
Valor, Belief Lv2, that PS that boosts stats when Enlightened

-Utsuho- 20172 damage
Valor, Shotgun Lv2

-Marisa- 28480 damage
Valor, Shotgun Lv2, Blazing Star, 10 bar MP, +70MP item, that new Danmaku Power PS

-Reimu- 17609 damage
Soul, Shotgun Lv2, Youkai Buster Lv3

-Yorihime- 34767 damage
Soul, +35% accuracy item, Concentrate, Predict Lv2, PS that boosts damage with accuracy

Thoughts:
Tons of room for further minmaxing and some really obvious places where damage can scale even higher.

But with the setups a early glance at least already tells me Yorihime is the new queen of burst damage, I can easily go even further with Mystia/Prismriver boosts.

Reimu hits much harder than I imagined but there isn't much more room to improve her damage. Best you can do is tack on Belief Lv2, but I missed it for almost everyone anyway.

Byakuren has the lowest output however she is one of those who scales like crazy at above 150 power and I suspect Byakuren has one of the highest pool of high lvl friendship boosts, so more can be played with.

Utsuho. I love the dumb nuclear bird, I half-assed it and she still shit out unbelievable damage. Belief Lv2, 200 power are things I'd like to add.

Marisa can probably get even more due to lacking Belief and since she has 2 item slots for MP, I only used one but I have no idea how her new PS scales. Also before you bring up Final Spark it's common fact Blazing Star is stronger.

>>17011323
Yep, though she can only do it once per battle. It's ridiculous when she hits someone with shotgunning and 230% accuracy for over 30k damage though.

My game right now freezes when I arrive at Nue's first spell...

>>17011557
Yorihime can't Shotgun it only workes with ranged attacks, all her attacks are melee based.

To boost Yorihime further you have to use Prismrivers, 3 Fairies, Cirno, Mystia and Kanako.

>>17011516
Belief 2 is only +30 Melee/Ranged right? If the formula is the same as it is in SRW, you probably won't get that much more burst damage.

IIRC, its something like
(Melee/Ranged + Will)/250 * Weapon Power * Valor/Soul/Sacrifice * Damage Multipliers (So stuff like Shotgunning) - (Defense + Will)/250 * Armor.

So basically, Will Limit Break is the most cost effective way of increasing your damage/durability at the same time since it affects both sides of the damage calculation. Belief is also a useful choice but only for characters like Remilia who have movepools that don't focus primarily on one stat (everyone else is better directly dumping their points into Melee/Ranged respectively unless they have absolutely no other skills that they want to take).

>>17011658
Well which is more effective doesn't particularly matter, Power Limit Break is simple enough to add but I just wanted to get a rough early idea on a fairly even level, ultimately if I was serious I'd throw every modifier on I can think of.

Just working with the basic 150 power was easier and faster for benchmarking whilst keeping in mind those who can scale even higher like Utsuho/Byakuren.

>>17011719
I understand that much. I was just coming up with cost effective ways of increasing your damage if you really needed it.

Post movement MAPs are a mistake

>>17011658
Belief also boosts crit chance, which doesn't really do anything for your burst damage but is quite helpful in other situations.

>>17012445
I usually find myself overshooting things with basic attacks at 5 bars since I haven't really spent all that much money since the start of FMW4. You can probably reliably deal with mooks outside of like the Gigantic Evil Eyes and the other miniboss class ones at 10 bars without Belief.

Its a great choice for Alice and probably Yumeko (Demon Slayer is a flat +1000 damage on critical right?)

There's a new update.
http://ux.getuploader.com/sanbondo/download/69/gsw04_update_101_103.zip

>>17012610
Fixes Parsee's animation, which is nice.

Found another bug. If you let Hisoutensoku and another character die, in the menu screen after you clear that stage they'll be tagged, I think it's the only way to deploy Hisou with another character.

I just wanted to see how high you can go with Yorihime doing a few basic tests.

>That Prismriver's sisters event where everyone goes into 250 Will + boosted Max SP
>>17012901
Oh my god

The Will limit in this game is insane

https://my.mixtape.moe/whfjsx.webm

>>17013170
Is that goddamn Layla Prismriver?

RIP.

>>17013401
Yup, destroying the giant sheep killed her