/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>1698298

QUEEN OF DANMAKU, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH ACCESSORIES?

Every riposte is a riposte

Dio would win and you know it.

Knifes are for fags! How about machine guns instead?

Dio always wins.

Except against that cheating Jotaro. Technically due to interference by Polnareff.

>>1698369

How about a gun that shoots knives>?

>>1698369
Fine.

>>1698369
A wise man said "Never bring a sword to a gunfight."

>>1698388
That's what bullets are.

>>1698388
Rocket Chainsaw is superior.

>>1698388
How about a gun that shoots shurikens and lightning?

>>1698388

FWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKAFWOKA

>>1698388

Why would you post Nel with that?
What does Nel have anything to do with that?

>>1698420

Fuck that shit, I want a gun that shoots guns.

>>1698420
I know where you got that and I am ashamed to be posting in the same thread as you.

>>1698439
A gun that shoots guns that shoots deer that shoot little Neco Arc Chaos.

>>1698452
You have something against Painkiller or something?

>>1698463
Yes, because I know that it's more /v/ than /jp/.

>>1698432

When is that ass not relevant?

>>1698483
When it's not an ass.

>>1698439
yo dawg, I herd u liek shootan so we put a gun in yo gun so u can shoot while u shoot

YO DAWG WE HEARD YOU LIKE GUNS SO WE PUT GUNS ON YOUR GUN

>>1698483

True enough.

Actually I abuse every chance I get to post Star Ocean III material

>>1698672
OTP

>>1698694

I HOPE you mean Albel's right arm over at the side there.

Clair is terrible.

Actually I don't care for AlNel at all and I just found Clair to be more boring than anything

But I HAAAAAAAAAAAAATE FARLEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

OHHHHH HOW I HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE FARRRRRRRRRRLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

The game could have use a lot, lot more of her.

Especially with the first 75% of the game being completely unrelated to the actual story, and the actual story being all "lol Matrix, also Descartes"

>>1698750

God dammit it is nothing like the Matrix
4 Dimensional godbeings made an artificial reality, not robots making simulations.
Fayt and co. are programs, Neo and co. are humans.
Etc. etc. etc. The only relation is "virtual reality" which is vague as the Matrix was an elaborate Sims game while the Eternal Sphere was a sophisticated programed dimensional reality.

Clearly I am stingy about this.

SUP DAWG WE HEARD YOU LIKE VALKYRIES SO WE PUT LENNETH IN YOUR GAME SO YOU CAN COLLECT SOULS WHILE YOU FIGHT

>>>>1698789
>>SUP DAWG WE HEARD YOU LIKE VALKYRIES SO WE PUT LENNETH IN YOUR GAME SO YOU CAN COLLECT SOULS WHILE YOU COLLECT SOULS

fixed

>>1698779
The way it's handled is very different but my point about the first 75% still stands.

>>1698713
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Maybe it's just that I get massively hard for sweet, kind girls like her, but her appearance was quite unexpected and welcome after being abducted by her goon. Too bad she had about two scenes in the whole game.
Also there are almost no good worksafe pictures of her fuck.

I think the point of Star Ocean 3 to me was plot goes out the window from the twist, we need more sexy girls. I WISH IT WAS LIKE THAT.

Also, Clair Clair Clair Clair.
>>1698672
You should do this more often.

> Also, Clair Clair Clair Clair.
We have pretty much already posted everything the internet had of her ;_;

>>1698946
Well, all the Clair pictures that were worksafe anyways...

Let's just keep derailing into the next best thing

>>1699004
Though why anything is stopping you from posting the non-worksafe stuff is beyond me. Other people post it and the thread usually only get's deleted hours later unless enough people BAWWWW about it.

>>1699035
Because in /jp/ hours later the conversation is not always finished. And being a blue board is better for discussion, with the neighbors we have.

>>1699066
...You have neighbors?

Fayt, why are you such a dumbass?

>>1699109
We have /a/ and /v/. Would you rather we had /e/ and /h/?

>>1699121
Moments later...

>>1699131
Is that a trick question? Of course I'd rather have /h/ and /e/.

>>1699168
Either you just don't get it or you need to get out. Being a blue board makes us under the radar for most of the rest of the site. We all know how to acquire this stuff in much more efficient ways than imageboards, so this restriction is a blessing in disguise that never really gets in the way of the discussion.

>>1698900
>Clair Clair Clair Clair

There was a thread that involved Star Ocean and nobody invited me?

I FEEL BETRAYED

You shall sufferrrrrrrr

>>1699816
But it's only involving the shitty Star Ocean, so it's not worth posting in.

Why's it taking so long to poooooost

>>1699860

Nay thou!

>>1698900
>Clair Clair Clair Clair

>>1699816
We just wanted you to prove >>1699066

>>1699893

Ohoho, you sly dogs you.

>>1699876
SO3 was an absolute piece of shit. I physically broke the discs after playing it for a while because I so pissed off after expecting something that was as good as the first two.

>>1699917
The fighting engine was pretty good. For a SO it'd be harder to excuse broken fights than a shitty story and some terrible characters.

>>1699917
>first TWO

WHAT?

Star Ocean 1, at least on the SNES, was a terrible half-finished piece of terribly glitchy shit.

Star Ocean: First Departure is beyond repetitive and only half-fixes the game to Three-Quarter-finished piece of no-longer glitchy shit.
Also, it added annoying-as-fuck Welch Vineyard. Though you didn't have to recruit her.
Still, I AM glad they gave closure to J/Ioshua's story with Eris. In the first one, she vanished and we got NOTHING. Shittiest side-plot end ever.
Also the semi-fix to the development system was useful, but still ultimately tiresome.

Honestly, I hold SO3 in immense regard. EQUAL to SO2. To hell with thee.

>>1699984
I've never played the SO1 remake, but I did enjoy the SNES version. I'll give you that it's not on par with SO2 though.

SO3 just pissed me off. There were NO characters who didn't suck, and plot was retarded. I found out about the "LOL WERE IN A GAEM LOL" bullshit after I stopped playing and I'm glad of that fact, else I would likely have died of apoplexy.

>>1700012

>SO3 just pissed me off. There were NO characters who didn't suck, and plot was retarded.

Your opinion; I thought Maria was completely awesome.
And Luther Lansfeld was weirdly awesome too.

>I found out about the "LOL WERE IN A GAEM LOL" bullshit after I stopped playing and I'm glad of that fact, else I would likely have died of apoplexy.

That's your entire goddamn fault; THE ENTIRE GAME AFTERWORDS WAS FUCKING PROVING THAT POINT WRONG.
THE
ENTIRE
FUCKING
PLOT
FROM
THAT
POINT
ON
WAS
FIXING
IT

Your fault for ceasing play.
Also, you didn't get to meet Luther so you didn't get to hear the best line in the game.

> EQUAL to SO2
4/10

> There were NO playable characters who didn't suck
fixed

>>1700038
It's still an immensely retarded twist.

SO2 did a much better job with "Trying to save the world, huh? YOU FUCKING FAIL! BOOM! EAT THAT!"

>>1700038
CAPS LOCK AND ENTER AFTER EACH WORD IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR CONVINCING ARGUMENT.

Everything that happened before the "WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD LOL" part was just filler to allow the characters to meet each other and team up.
The game could have started two or three hours before that event without any adverse effect.

>>1700068

Again, the entire point was that the twist didn't matter.

Note Final Boss banter:

"Luther: What are you talking about? The very existence of entities like these is causing massive bugs in the Eternal Sphere itself. Tell me what's wrong with eliminating flawed code?

Fayt: Flawed code? Sure, we might be entities created by your hand. But that doesn't give you the right to decide everything! We deserve the right to live
and die on our own!

Luther: This is ridiculous... You're nothing more than a collection of 0s and 1s.

Sophia: No matter what the real truth is, the fact is we have thoughts and feelings of our own. We want to save our dimension, and everyone in it.

Fayt: She's right! We've come all this way, thanks to the thoughts and feelings of countless people. Allowing you to erase us would betray them all!

Luther: 'Thoughts and feelings'? What rubbish. Your 'thoughts and feelings' are nothing more than fabrications modeled upon our own!"

At least the twist was original god damn.

And hey you can use it to justify escapism and junk and conclude your waifu is real in a 2 dimensional medium.

>>1700100
- Oh yeah so looks like we're still alive somehow
- Well, cogito ergo sum
- Oh yeah makes sense
Great ending sure.

>>1700102

Had to show you some experience of the universe and get attached to them somewhat before going against a being who disregards your existence and feelings.

The point was that all the feelings they felt were "real", even should the universe be a fabrication.
It would've been stupid to do this with no feelings before raising this argument, no?

>>1700100
So even in the final stages of the game it's still pretty clear that the PCs are just data. >>1700038 is apparently lies.

Luther should just format the whole system, not TALK to a bunch of pixels and code, goddamn. How fucking lame do you have to be to get owned by something that doesn't even exist?

You're just making excuses for sloppy storytelling. SO3 felt like the story was written in chronological order, and near the end the writer was run over by a bus, and his successor was a high school kid who's just watched the end of evangelion then read up the wikipedia article on postmodernism.

>>1700117

Cogito Ergo Universi Sum.

If you believe and experience it to be real, it is as real. Even being data, they experienced their universe as real, and therefore it is real to them. That's the message.

>So even in the final stages of the game it's still pretty clear that the PCs are just data. >>1700038 is apparently lies.

They were always data, relative to 4D.
Merely that they were real in the form of data, and that being data does not negate their existence.

>Luther should just format the whole system, not TALK to a bunch of pixels and code, goddamn. How fucking lame do you have to be to get owned by something that doesn't even exist?

(DAMMIT THEY >DO< EXIST THAT IS THE POINT)
(DATA EXISTS GOD DAMMIT ARE YOU GETTING THIS YET)
He tried, at the end, after you punch his face in.
"Luther: Hahahaha... That's it! I won't stop with the Milky Way galaxy. I'll completely delete all the data linked to the Eternal Sphere! That will completely eliminate those viruses, too! Heh heh heh... It's so simple. Why didn't I think of it before?

Luther: It all ends now. No more of your silly tricks. I'll delete the whole universe!!!

Luther: Ahahahaahahahahaha!!!

Luther: Haahahahahaha... Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die...! Be gone, everyone and everything!"

He fails because consciousness and deus ex overcomplex machina. It turns out it's hard to format a dimension.

>>1700195

Okay, I will not defend the writing.

But I HATE people hating on the twist as if it was the entire damn story!

> If you believe and experience it to be real, it is as real. Even being data, they experienced their universe as real, and therefore it is real to them. That's the message.

If you wanna bring some DEEP philosophy into this, SO3 is the brain in a jar experiment, and your jar is thrown in a fire, but somehow you are still alive after they burned your brain. The message is that data people don't die when they are killed.

Fags still angry at SO3's WHAT A TWIST? Get a new hobby, nigglets.

>>1700231

Well, any computer nut knows that you CAN'T actually delete data to an irrecoverable sense without utterly destroying the drive.
You can just overwrite it.

>>1700196
Something that exists only as data is not real. It is at best an illusion. An illusion of consciousness does not a "person" make.

>>1700250
dd some zeros over it. One pass make it almost impossible Make multiple passes make it completely impossible.

>>1700250
dd some zeroes over it. One pass makes it almost impossible to recover the data, and multiple passes alternating zeroes and ones, completely impossible.

>>1700263
It takes, IIRC, seven passes before current forensics can retrieve data. And I expect that number to slowly climb.

>>1698298
>>1698369
>>1698400

Enjoy your fictional danmaku while I pwn your country with UNLIMITED BOMBER WORKS

>>1698789
>>SUP DAWG WE HEARD YOU LIKE VALKYRIES SO WE PUT LENNETH IN YOUR GAME

Fuck yeah.

Also, did Maria Anon post in this thread yet?

>>1700281
How are real-world considerations relevant to SO3 anyway? It's not like the series has a strong sci-fi background. They're just using the common JRPG trick of throwing pseudo-philosophy and jargon when the story can't be fixed anymore.

>>1700259

Expect some blue-haired kid to jump through your monitor and shank you, Mr. Lansfeld.
(In other words, that's just conflictual with Star Ocean 3. Logic doesn't have to enter into it; it's a story.)

>>1700270
>>1700281

Okay then.
Luther only had time to do it once before he got a bigass sword in his kidney. 4D has automatic data recovery systems or Blair did it manually. Plot hole patched.

>>1700298

That's me! Who else would defend such a silly game like Star Ocean 3? Honestly.

BECAUSE MARIA IS BEAUTY

I DO IT ALL FOR MARIA

JUSTIFICATION JUSTIFICATION JUSTIFICATION

>>1699066
was pretty fucking correct.

Did somebody said Lenneth?

>>1700396

Oh you kooky necromancer.

>>1700396

gb2/tower/

or wherever he was found, I haven't played VP in a while.

And/or rapist.

>>1700440

The Tower of Lezard Valeth is VP1.

Guess what? In VP2 he gets his own UNIVERSE.

>>1700459

He still calls his universe "The Tower of Lezard Valeth", though.

It's just not much of a tower anymore.

Damn, I forgot about VP2. I even have it, too.

I played VP2 before VP1. Sure made for a very weird experience, but I feel the story was actually better this way.

Also, I wish I could punch in the throat the guy who decided I'm not allowed to lower the voices to less than 20% in VP1. What's with tri-ace and the shitty actors, seriously.

>>1700490
Well, there is an UNDUB you can download.

>>1700490

>What's with tri-ace and the shitty actors, seriously.

They seem to alternate between terrible and god damn fuckawesome.
Case in motherfucking point: Liam O'Brian as Lezard Valeth in VP2.
Also Luther Lansfeld to drag back to SO3.
And Jack Rusell in Radiata Stories.

... Star Ocean 2 can only be excused, though.

The Pokeyman English dub VAs did VP1. Try to guess which characters are which!

>>1700503
An undub for VP1?

>>1700510
>Liam O'Brian as Lezard Valeth in VP2.

I will defend this as one of the best voice actor roles in any medium ever, by the way.
Case of defense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhksfGFiQ8

>>1700490
>>1700510
CRAWD ADVANCES FORWARD

>>1700503
I'm afraid you're mistaking with the VP2 and SO2 undubs. I don't think there's one for VP1.

>>1700484

(´Д｀*)

>>1700579

>VP2 undub

Now why would anybody do that?

>>1700579
There's an undub for SO2? Does it include subbed fmvs?

Also, I love that /jp/ can excuse itself of "rescuing" the excellent Japanese content from /v/ and /a/ without having to shovel all the rest with it.

Internet high five.

>>1700514
Nurse Joy = Lenneth
Meowth = Arngrim, Lezard, and Lawfer (also incidentally Margarete in Shadow Hearts)
Ash = Freya + others
Misty, Jessie = Jelanda + others
Brock = Lucian

>>1700593
Anyone familiar with tri-ace would have bet they would be experience-ruining shit. I wouldn't have given the dub a chance if both were included.

They also made an undub for SO3 BTW.

Holy shit guys, did we just have a general tri-ace thread without mentioning that Sakuraba is awesome? Because Sakuraba is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHOrf9fEKY4&fmt=22

>>1700660

>Anyone familiar with tri-ace would have bet they would be experience-ruining shit.

But then they would've lost their money.

I can't see VP2 without Alicia's beautiful voice or Silmeria's tense calm narrative.

And the Japanese version could never, ever match
"Huhuhahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!"
(Goddamn Lezard you are teleporting 7 feet away it is NOT that funny)
Or any of Lezard's other lines.
"Bow to me! Worship me! Honor my name! LEZARD VALETH!"

Really, if it weren't for the ever-dodgy translation itself the voices fit incredibly nice.

>They also made an undub for SO3 BTW.

OH GOD I WOULD TOTALLY GIVE UP LUTHER TO NEVER HEAR FARLEEN AGAIN

>>1700699

Technically Sakuraba is tri-Crescendo.

Also, I'm running out of Lezard pics. Why do I have so few Lezard pics?

>>1700708
>NEVER HEAR FARLEEN AGAIN
OH GOD

MIMICING HOW THE ELEVENS TALK IS NOT GOOD FOR YOUR EARS

HOW COULD THEY LISTEN TO THAT AND SAY "YUP THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD DUB"

>>1700717

Okay no I'm stupid.

Motoi Sakuraba is freelance.
He just gets hired by tri-Ace and tri-Crescendo.

He's awesome, please continue.

http://www.gamemp3s.net/

Fuck yeah, newish rearranged OST.

>>1700726
Gladly. Did any of you guys listen to Gikyokuonsou? It's an awesome original album he did in 1991 and all his style and sound is already there at its best. I remember trying to find it all over the internet back when Napster was still underground, good times. Now it's simply on GH.

Lezard Valeth uses Thread Necromancy.

And there is nothing you can do to resist him.

>>1701460

Can't we kill the zombies?
With swords?

>>1701477

No, you kill zombie threads with sages.

>>1700719

I don't think anyone actually listens to the dub before they put it into the game these days.

>>1701507

>I don't think anyone actually listens to the dub before they put it onto the market

Fixed, not limited to games

>>1701512

That's a point. Makes me wonder if I can make an easy buck by going into voice acting, god knows you don't need talent to do dub work.

>>1701519

Probably wouldn't be very hard looking at the oafs who got it so easily.

But then, Farleen was just a fucking stupid choice. A 50+ year old woman voicing a teenage girl? What the hell, tri-Ace America.

>>1701519
It's actually very hard. That's a closed inbred circle that gets all the gigs. They also have an union and ask to be paid like movie actors because they think their 'performances' are the most emotionally engaging part of the games.

>>1700708 And the Japanese version could never, ever match
ur a faget

LEZARD STOP THAT NECROMANCY RIGHT NOW

>>1700067
>>1698844
SOURCE?

>>1703370
Wow, that's an excellent embodiment of cancer if there ever was one.

>>1703333
Okay, sorry.

>>1705221

DAMMIT LEZARD

(Thankfully upon clearing the Seraphic Gate I can now have the odd-yet-awesome situation of Lezard Valeth killing the shit out of Lezard Valeth.)

>>1705234
I really liked this "villain".

He was ruthless in his methods, just to get a glimpse of the Valkyrie. And he ultimately succeeds too!

"I burn. I burn. I burn of passion for you".

Talk about an overpowered stalker, eh?

>>1705234

(Whatever) Entity in the Seraphic Gate was a funny fight.

I remember Breaking his boots and getting little Lenneth statuettes.

Why would you keep those in your boots, Lezard?

>>1705253
Emergency masturbatory supply.

>>1705269

But why the boots?

Well I suppose (Blahblah) Entity technically flies, but Lezard normally walks.
They might've been damaged.

>>1705285
This is Lezard we are talking about. He must have a way.

>>1703370
Search by MD5 on danbooru before asking this question. You could have easily figured it's from http://yellow.ribbon.to/~womit/

>>1705253
>>1705285

(Seraphic Gate Lez is called Obsessed Ex., not (X) Entity like the final bosses.)

He actually keeps Lenneth statuettes EVERYWHERE.
His boots hold the Metal type.
They're also typically what you hit (what with him floating with his feet in your face), which would be why you didn't break off any others.

>>1705311

>He actually keeps Lenneth statuettes EVERYWHERE.

Obsessed Ex indeed.

This 'Valkyrie Profile' game sounds rather entertaining, and I've always been a sucker for a good manaical laugh. Should I try and nab the original PS version, or is the PSP version superior?

>>1705252
>>1705311

Nerdy unstable bookworm who creates figurines of his mythical lover.

Basically, ultimate Midguardian NEET.

>>1705350

PSP would be easier to get, unless you're ePSXe-ing which then just go for the PSX one I guess.

Get Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria, though.

>>1705350
I don't think the PSP version added anything except for a few bonus 3d movies.
This game has many very awesome slow-paced story sequences that you definitely don't want to interrupt, so really you don't want to play it on a portable console. And this game has some of the best 2D ever on PSX hardware - it deserves a big screen.
It'd also deserve a good sound system, if only those assholes allowed you to disable the voices (expect a "Die, monster"-level of terribleness).
If you're gonna play it, you should also note that it's impossible to get the good ending without a strategy guide.

Lezard has decided that this thread will never die.
No matter

>>1705440
>it's impossible to get the good ending without a strategy guide
Oh, so now that I found out Lucian is my lover I should send him to Valhalla? Derp.

>>1706286
"Good " means "the one where you kinda understand what's going on"

>>1705440 It'd also deserve a good sound system, if only those assholes allowed you to disable the voices (expect a "Die, monster"-level of terribleness).
I GROW TIRED OF YOU

>>1706855
Sucks to be you. Those guys just read their lines aloud with one standard emotion from their limited repertoire then went on with their lives, but I, on the other hand, never grow tired of complaining about old games.

>>1705252
i'm burnin i'm burnin i'm burnin for yooooou

>>1706973
No, it must suck to be YOU.
Go back to your gayland.

It's nice having excuses to bring things back from the dead because it's a thread involving a necromancer.

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>>1708558
No, I think the joke is tired by now.