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Tell me about Marisa + Summer. Why is she so perfect?

Winter Reimu is so broken. Most impressive thing I've seen since Youkai Buster.

Homing amulet plus a fucking laser.

>>16983319
How to use release ?

>>16983393
I have no idea, but it's useful as hell.

Need to keep your season if you want to do damage though, so don't release carelessly.

>>16983330
Agreed. I don't even need to dodge. Cirno summer is cool too.

>>16983393
C key

have the shot types been translated yet
i have no idea what the fuck they do

Getting this error anytime I try to launch this. Any help?

Yes I'm the same guy from yesterday.
>inb4 aceptar

Lily gets a spell card but no portrait...

>>16983453
Spring is classic Reimu homing shot
Summer is weak spread shot
Autumn is a forward firing shot
Winter is Illusion laser

Spring release eats all of your saved up season but its effect is larger the more you have. it's basically a mini bomb
Summer is a smaller effect but it only eats one charge of season
Autumn surrounds you in the effect and makes you go FAAAAAAAAAST the more season charges you have
Winter leaves it's effect in one spot and powers up your shot for it's duration. more charges means longer lasting

Why does the demo cap at like 16 fps for me? All the older games run normally.

>>16983512
She can't bare to look at you in this condition. Yours or hers, well that's a small mystery.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3E5UPadELDk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I072HXI77-c
>Lily Black

>>16983461
Move th16.cfg from AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice\th16tr to the folder with the trial in, that should do it.

>>16983393
I've found that dropping a Winter release on bosses does a lot of damage, and turns all the bullets they fire in that duration into Season power.

Can someone give me a quick rundown on any new characters?

>>16983326
I didn't like that combo too much, the spread shot is just so weak.
Marisa + Fall is insane, but Fall in general is insane so that's just a given.

>>16983682
>No C-key

>>16983699
I've been enjoying Autumn/Fall Marisa quite a bit as well; Winter Aya is nice too.

>>16983461
>Aceptar
Open the Administrador de Tareas and kill any th16 processes, then try again.

>>16983747
what >>16983594 said worked, thank you!

>>16983740
It's nice to see a game where most of the shots are useful.

>>16983722
I'll wait for the next commit to see if it changes

Cirno is too underpowered. It's impossible to capture any spellcard with her at 1.XX power.

>>16983765
You probably won't ever face real spell cards at 1.XX power. This isn't UFO, or TD.

Marisa Spring > Reimu Winter

Marisa is the best spell cracker, Reimu is obsolete

>>16983806
Is that so?
I just tried that and the spring options are really underwhelming, I guess Fall would suit Marisa better.

Where to download?

Are those Cirno doujins where she's trapped in the real world and the MC needs to decide whether to rape or refrigerate now non-canon?

>>16983806
Depends on how you're playing the game.
I'm trying for LNNN (best record is 2 miss so far) and I'd say a strong homing is almost necessary for some stage portions.

>>16983806
Not worth it.

Reimu is better for Sakata.

>>16983821
From the thread that hit the bump limit:
https://mega.nz/#!hIZTTapC!1A4MTSueiirqFTfLkMeSab3cd6B9b5s4uITU-DlUs2c

If Cirno Winter is the best combo she can manage, why is she in the game?

Cirno Fall is okay. A little redundant though at full power.

>>16983699
Not him, but the main advantage of summer is that each mini-bomb only costs 1 to use. This is actually really useful because if you think about it most of the time all you need to get out of a bad spot is that little bit of time, so at full power that's like 6 bombs before you run out. I think summer in general is good, not just on Marisa.

>>16983881
Cirno at full power plus full summer power turns stages into a joke. You don't even have to try. It's true that she isn't very good at bosses but enemies die basically as soon as they get onscreen with Cirno. That said, I still prefer the other characters to her, even Reimu, but still.

>>16983900
I just tried Summer Reimu, and didn't need to move around the screen much for regular enemies whatsoever.

>>16983903
>Green points description
If only I knew this before.
Time to spam release on everything.

>>16983912
Shit penetration but good coverage

Doesn't give her much more power

>>16983924
I don't play for points.

When should I release in general?

>>16983947
when lots of items are on screen

when you feel scared and want to bomb, but don't want to waste a bomb

release does NOT interfere with capturing spell cards, even though it can destroy bullets and collect items

>>16983935
Good for collection abuse

Marisa Winter deals so much damage. You can kill many big fairies before they even get their patterns out. Poor yellow spread pattern fairies in stage one get bullied hard.

>>16983947
all day every day
basically, they eat bullets and give you fuel for another release
Whenever there's a lot of concentrated bullets, it's good to plop the release.
Aya in particular is almost broken since the effect follows you.

release->do circle around enemy where bullets are densest->get enough autumn->release
as long as you get away for the moment it takes to grab it, you can do it endlessly

others aren't as good, but they have their own benefits

releases don't provide much safety

no invincibility frames

Aya+Fall for scoring, Reimu+Winter/Spring for NNN business, Reimu+Fall for regular survival.
Sounds about right?

>>16983983
Winter Marisa is also very cute!

Hard mode is great.

>>16983962
>release does NOT interfere with capturing spell cards
You sure? I remember reading that they do (or at least some of them, like Spring).

>>16984049
Reimu+Winter is the most broken even if you're only gunning for survival

>>16984125
Fall is very spammable and can get you out of any tough spot and will be immediately available for use again if you touch enough bullets in that time frame. I'm only speaking for lunatic though, I'd imagine it might be harder to spam on lower difficulties since the bullet count is lower.

>>16984093
>I remember reading that they do (or at least some of them, like Spring).
Only if it hit boss.

>>16983947
on this game extra lives are gained with points
so maybe you should play for them this time

Does stage 3 in this game remind anyone else of stage 3 in PCB?

>>16984156
It reminds me of stage 3 in TD.

Does anyone actually expect ZUN to keep score extends in the final version of HSiFS

I think it's unlikely, on Lunatic with the Autumn shot type you can get 20 million score (so 3 extends) on stage one alone by just pressing C and moving around a ton and when you sit on top of a boss with it, you can essentially spam it. It doesn't even void your spell card bonus.

If he doesn't keep score extends, how do you think the life pieces will work in this game? I think it's gonna be tied to how much you clear with season releases, like if you clear a certain amount of bullets a life piece will pop out, and this amount should probably be more than what you could clear with the autumn level 1 release unless you're shotgunning with it probably

Spring looks the prettiest on top of stage one and fits in the best with stage 3 so I'm going to use that.

>>16984159
I hope he keeps them in I prefer whole lives by score compared to life pieces.

>>16984172
I mean I do like score extends too but it's just too imbalanced like this

How good is winter for survival? When I use it it feels like it has the least impact

Can't wait for C92. Anyone else going?

>>16984180
It lets you do a decent amount of more damage, but it's release is shit unless you drop it on a boss, which you can't do unless you do it before they start attacking, or in special circumstances. Plus, dropping it on a boss' spellcard means not capturing it. Either ZUN needs to buff it or nerf the other secondary shot types. DESU right now I think the game seems like it will be too easy so I hope ZUN opts for a nerf.

>>16984210
I might be.

>>16984159
Or maybe he'll just you know

nerf the Fall subweapon

>>16984225
>Either ZUN needs to buff it or nerf the other secondary shot types
Seemed like intentional game design to me for the release to be weaker, seeing how strong winter is as a shottype otherwise

Couple of questions:
- How much does ZUN normally change between trial and release?
- What's a good option for Cirno? I've tried Spring and the coverage seems nifty, but it's a bit too weak for my liking.
- Can you cancel deaths with releases like bombs?

>>16984159
He could increase the amount of points needed for extends, or decrease what you can get from releases like >>16984237

>>16984225
>Plus, dropping it on a boss' spellcard means not capturing it.
You can still capture spellcards with releases.

>>16984240
Maybe you're right. Personally I would rather have the 6 releases in reserve, especially seeing as how releases do not interrupt spellcard captures, but I think this is probably just my preference.

The only thing I really hope ZUN changes are the backgrounds.
For God's sake, the first two are just terrible.

>>16984246
I personally like Winter with Cirno, she could really use the extra power. Not sure about death-releasing, but I doubt it works since you're technically still vulnerable when you use it.

>>16984270
I thought they were pretty good.

>>16984270
The first one is alright but the second one is just a poorly done recolor of the first one to make it look like fall. His backgrounds were very nice in MoF so it's a waste

Does this game finally support 1080p? And how's the music? This is all I care about

>>16984308
Touhou will never be widescreen. Get over it, nerd.

>>16984270
Meh, I like them. Except blur-like effent on first.

>>16984295
>>16984297
They all clash too much with the collectibles. It's a pain.

>>16984315
Then what about 1920x1200

>>16984308
>And how's the music?
Has the music ever been bad?

>>16984319
Have you seen stage 4 of Mystic Square?
That one with blue backgrounds and blue bullets.
Its tradition; painful backs.

I can't fullscreen with th14 and beyond. Everytime I try, the screen flickers as if it was trying to make me have a seizure, then it return the desktop with an unreadable error dialog box.

Maybe the game wouldn't be so stupidly easy if you could only release at level 6 like in TD.

>>16984329
16:9 is becoming a standard. 16:10/8:5 is almost dead. Dream on.

Supporting multiple aspect ratios/resolutions is something that usually is present due to an engine supporting it. Supporting multiple resolutions without using a AAA game engine like Unreal or Unity is something hard enough that most people don't bother, so the fact that ZUN supports 3 different ones is pretty amazing. You'll notice there isn't a drop-down for whatever resolution you want in some games, you have 3 to pick from. As someone who has dabbled in game-development, I know this means ZUN custom programmed those resolutions for the game, which is a giant pain in the ass. But I'm appreciative that he did this because this means his games run much more efficiently than if he were to use a AAA game engine.

It's actually more common for doujin games to use 4:3 instead of 16:9, and touhou has always been 16:9, so it's probably never going to happen, especially because, like I said before, ZUN doesn't use a AAA game engine and supporting multiple aspect ratios is even harder than supporting multiple resolutions.

tl;dr Never gonna happen, too hard without using an engine, dream on dork.

>>16984397
>touhou has always been 16:9
Shit, mean 4:3.

How do I unlock brown Reimu?

I can't play the demo because there is no fps cap (running with Wine on Linux). Anyone know how to fix this?

>>16983900
The bombs also refund themselves, so at the end of the day you'll probably have significantly more than 6 of them.

Also the shot type is really shitty because it's the only one that lets you use release while maintaining your shot in the first place. Summer lets you both have your cake and eat it, even if it's a pretty bad cake.

>>16984308
No 1080p support but 1280x960 scales well enough that the game is playable. Also, the new music is really interesting in comparison to LoLK, which was just kinda off-putting. The first boss theme is especially fun.

>>16984476
Stop using such a shitty OS.

So at least we can all agree that
Spring > Fall > Summer > Winter
right?

Lily spell card is Spring Sign "Surprise Spelling"

fitting

>>16984558
Fall is the best. Everyone besides you clearly agrees on that.

>>16984574
Fall is all about release spam so technically it's only as good as the difficulty you're playing on.

>>16984362
DDC

I feel like winter will be better once the full game is out. Can probably help against all the toughest spellcards later in the game when you just want to end them quickly.

>>16984246
The difficulty sometimes changes between trial and real game. I don't think the general mechanics have ever changed.

Winter Aya is amazing

>>16984594
Is it just me or is there basically no Aya art at all? I know people are hype for the new characters, but I like her skirt.

>>16984562

I'm still a little confused. So if I pick Reimu, though she's default spring, how do I enable winter Reimu?

>>16984627
When it shows two pink text boxes, hit right or left until you get a nice chilly text box.

>>16984627
Each character has an associated season, but the trick is that you can use the options and season release of other characters. So 'winter Reimu' is Reimu with (Marisa's) winter option, making you shoot both Reimu's basic amulet & homing shots and Marisa's laser if you have season energy or whatever it's called.

I'm pretty garbage at Touhou, but Marisa+winter seemed pretty strong at beating bosses, and I cleared the demo on Normal with her first. Then I tried out Reimu+autumn, cleared handily with a lot more score. Autumn release seems pretty good.

>>16984616
but that says "Surprise Spring" right?

Winter's the best for beating Easy since releases are bad with fewer bullets, right?

Holy shit. Cirno really dropped the ball on this game. Her spread is useless and even at max power she's weak as fug.

>>16983903
>Green leaves
WHY CAN'T ZUN CHANGE THIS INTO SUNFLOWER? IT'S LITERALLY A SUMMER PLANT? DON'T THEY HAVE SUNFLOWERS IN GRORIOUS NIHON?

>>16984652
You're riiight, I'm an idiot.

Why'd I read pu as pe?

I think I've gotten the hang of how this game flows, and honestly feel like I could possibly 1CC it (which would be my first). The season release system is very easy to utilize/abuse

>>16984653
Yes, but why would you play on Easy?
Only children play on Easy.

Do you guys play normal or hard?

>>16984735
Normal cause I'm generally bad at everything

>>16984616
I like that ZUN made a new sprite for Lily instead of using the shitty one from PCB like he did in Fairy Wars. She's looking really good now.

>>16984735
In HSiFS or in general? Hard if the former, Hard except for the more difficult games if the latter.

>>16983546
What am I supposed to do with autumn? Just move around? Like, is the point of the releases just to gather the spread out items and remove bullets? Does hitting bullets with the shield do anything or is it just from gathering season fragments?

>>16984735
This is one of those weird cases where normal is too easy and hard is slighly harder than what you expect.
Start abusing those options son.

>>16984735
Normal. I suck at these.

>>16984760
>What am I supposed to do with autumn? Just move around?
That's one thing you can do.
>is the point of the releases just to gather the spread out items and remove bullets?
Both, but I see it as generally more useful for the former rather than the latter. That said, you could totally slap it down in front of an enemy. Also, it seems to be able to do damage, though I read if you do that to a boss you can't capture the spellcard (otherwise you can, even if you use it to clear bullets)
>Does hitting bullets with the shield do anything or is it just from gathering season fragments?
That I can't say for sure. It seems like it's from hitting things for one.

>>16984735
Makes me wonder.
Let's see what difficulty /jp/ prefers to play on.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12918345
I'm personally a lunatic only player.

>>16984735
Normal, I'm not very good at the games.

>>16984735
I always play on Hard even if I actually haven't finished a game at all. Normal has too little bullets to have any fun.

>>16984773
oh, also, I don't know much about this stuff but liberally releasing led me to getting more lives than usual

>>16984735
I played on Easy just to unlock the music. Still couldn't 1CC it. Why am I so bad at this game?

>>16984772
Hard wasn't an issue for me to 1cc, but Lunatic is completely killing me. I felt the gap from Normal to Hard wasn't as big as Hard to Lunatic. Using SpringReimu too, so I shouldn't have too much trouble, but I usually lose a life in Stage 2, which makes the run pointless, because god knows I need all my lifes for Stage 6 when C92 rolls around.

>>16984789
keep it up man, I beat my first extra 4 years later i discovered the games

>>16984760
Hitting bullets with your shield generates green items that increase your point item value. I believe it also gives you points as well. This is the only way to raise your PIV and is essential towards getting the later extends. LNNN in the first 3 stages only nets you 40m-50m score whereas Fall option abuse can get you over 500m in the first 3 stages alone: https://youtu.be/DBgyE0mrjJk

The soundtrack is meh

>>16984574
Yeah sure but what about Summer and Winter

I did it! I'm not a lunatic player so this was fun
This game has some pretty fucking CHEESY mechanics though

Playing through Lunatic right now. I have no clue how to even dodge most of the 2nd bosses knife spam without spamming fall release myself.

With EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF and TD out of the way which game should I try to 1cc next? I will leave LoLK till last that's for sure.

>>16984861
SA UFO and DDC

>>16984773
>though I read if you do that to a boss you can't capture the spellcard (otherwise you can, even if you use it to clear bullets)
and checking it out that does not seem to be the case

how busted! you can use release right up in a bosses face and still get bonus

>>16984861
PC-98!

>>16984854
Tap stream them slowly. The only one tough one is her very first wave (boss music/conversation hasn't started yet) if you're not on Reimu. For that one, if you are playing Reimu, start halfway up the wall on either side, stream down, towards the other wall, then up the other wall very slowly. At 3+ power you should get her before time runs out. If you aren't playing Reimu, you'll need to misdirect it, which is easier at certain times than others but is hard to explain. When in doubt look up LNNN runs.

>>16984806
Holy fug that strategy against the 1st stage midboss

>>16984861
LLS and MS are fun, comfortable rides

>>16984866
Not sure about DDC but SA and UFO were a pain, party time is over, I'm about to get schooled...

>>16984877
Might give this a go, I feel guilty for not playing them.

>>16984806
>Erasing whole spellcards
Maybe autumn release was a mistake after all.

>>16984735
Generally normal, hard if I'm trying to git gud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEZPnHIKEMs

classic zun

Why does Marisa feel so slow? Did Aya take over as the fast character?

>>16985109
Marisa is slow

>>16985109
Marisa's new broom is too fucked to go fast.

>>16984877
>>16984905
>>16984929
Yeah, the PC-98 games are nice. SoEW is massively archaic and PoDD can be sadistically difficult, but they're all quite fun, especially LLS. They have damn good soundtracks, too.

Can you death bomb with the release mechanic?
My download is slow so I can't play it myself yet.

>>16985109
Also what is her best secondary weapon?

>>16985207
>Can you death bomb with the release mechanic?
No.

>>16985207
Clearly not but my brain refuses to accept that.

>>16985231
Thanks
>>16985239
ha

Cirno Fall is amazing
Screen is boolets

>>16985311
Is Reimu some kind of legendary hikkikomori if her leaving her house means there's an incident?

I think the best way to nerf Fall is to make it so bullets get cancelled either:

A: not at all
B: only within the first second of activation

>>16985329
I'd just make it significantly smaller.

>>16985325
No, she has her gohei out.

>>16985325
Stage 1 Reimu script:
http://srv.thpatch.net/lang_en/th16/st01a.msg.jdiff

The fairies have gone crazy.

Guess so.

>>16985329
What's wrong with Fall?

>>16985343
It completely breaks almost all the boss attacks and is also so much better at getting score it's unreal.

>>16985343
>What's wrong with Fall?
See >>16985101
No other season even comes close.

>>16985362
What the hell... How does it refill that quickly?

Btw, does anyone need a specific screenshot?

>>16985293
But Normal this time is fucking easy as hell

>>16985399
It's probably going to be the first time in a long time that I'll be able to play Normal leisurely and not have to worry about lives.

Autumn is the most broken thing since Marisa in MoF. How did ZUN not see anything wrong with it

But MarisaB is fun... Hard to maintain though.

>>16985402
>>16985443
Why does Reimu look so wasted?

>>16985399
Games usually pick up in difficulty by stage 4. Who knows what ZUN has in store for us.

>>16985428
The spam for score is more difficult to pull off later on (without dying) than you think. ZUN probably wasn't good enough to do it and so didn't balance for it. The videos of the spam look cool and all but almost all of them run out of lives by the end of stage 3. If you're just using it to survive though then yeah I agree it's far too strong.

>>16985454
This is the spiritual successor to Uwabami Breakers

Poor Etarnity

>>16985325
I suppose there's a difference between a Reimu that's flying through the sky kicking youkai ass left and right and a Reimu that's just walking on the ground doing everyday shrine maiden things

You know, I think I might actually believe the theory that ZUN saw nothing wrong with Fall because he is simply too bad at his own games to do anything even remotely fancy with it. Remember when TD would crash if you beat one of Mamizou's spell cards without dying/using a bomb or when MoF would crash if you passed a certain score?

I think I'm getting too close while doing it, but it seems like you can just sit in front of Etarnity's face pressing C and you won't run out of charges.

>>16985539
As Summer specifically

>>16985382
Bullet cancels generate season items. When you cancel enough bullets in one go, it pretty much sets you up to rinse and repeat.

>>16983690
It always bugs me how Marisa talks like a hick in the thcrap translations. I know "Bitch get out of the way!" is a really bad translation and this is more accurate to the source material but the IN mistranslations don't hurt me inside the way seeing her say words like "y'all" and "ain't" does.

>>16985590
yeah-ze

>>16985513
I don't think that's an unreasonable suggestion at all. Even if there are plenty of people who can play the higher difficulty levels and we could assume that ZUN just writes the description as such to not offend those with less skill, for most Touhou games Lunatic reads as "not for anyone", "for crazy people", or something similar.

I gotta say, this is the best title theme in years.

Theme of Eastern Story hits late, but it's worth it.

>>16985611

>GOAT music
>GOAT aesthetics

Is this the GOATest 2hu since Highly Responsive to Prayers?

>>16985638
>The pleasure of being cooped up inside

>>16985653
Best since IN

>>16985653
There aren't any goats in this game

>>16983940
>Typhon

>>16985665
Not yet Anon. Not yet.

>>16984640
I don't quite see these pink text boxes?

What's ZUN's official "the difficulty is..." for this game?

>>16985653
Who u quote

>>16985673
ZUN

>>16985630
>I gotta say, this is the best title theme in years.
Well, it's been four years since Double Dealing Character, so yes?

>>16985653
Music is very good, but I think that MS, PCB, MoF, UFO, TD, and LoLK all had better music up to this point.
Aesthetics are a bit broader--love the GUI and stage 3's background, but stage 1 is a reuse of LoLK's stage 1 and stage 2 is the same thing but recolored to look orange and blend in with the bullets. Character designs are really cute but I think they're too similar to one another, particularly when compared to the first 3 bosses of past games

>>16983690
>we have probably have an incident

>>16985688
LoLK and TD has shitty music

>>16984369
you know, as much as I've talked shit about it, I don't think I've ever died on stage 3 or 4 because of the bullets being the same color as the background in MS

that being said, yellow on yellow is fucking killing me on the inside right now

>>16984476
go complain about it (also, if you're using your distro's packaged version of wine don't bother, go build your own from source)

>>16985239
man, this is bugging me right now

>>16985653
>GOAT music
nah
it's okay

>>16985590
Do you have a better idea to emulate her manner of speech?

>>16985696
Stage 1 TD is one of the best songs in all of touhou. Same with Stage 6 LoLK. I'd say stage 6 LoLK is the most immersive and "cinematic" sequence of the entire franchise to date.

TD is great overall. Always bouncing to the beat of Stage 6.

I hated DDC and LoLK. Too many annoying gimmicks.

>>16984806
Oh, it's like every game since TD.

>>16985735
>>DDC
>gimmics
I guess you mean for Seija and Shinmyoumaru, but that's really it.

>>16985744
Yeah, the Double Dicking Characters

>>16985725
>Stage 1 TD is one of the best songs in all of touhou.
lol no

>>16985688
>>16985653
The music is fine but so far nothing really hooks me into actively wanting to listen to it like the really good ones do. It's probably going to be similar to TD unless there's something iconic in the later stages.

>>16985750
Git gud

>>16985750
I would gladly dick Raiko.

>>16985744
Well, that and the resource system that encouraged bombing.

That said, >>16985735 is obviously a troll or an idiot, TD was gimmicky as fuck thanks to Trance.

>>16985725
SA had a better stage 1 theme, it captured that sense of adventure and wonder that comes with starting a game very well, while maintaining the feeling of being in a deep cavern underground.

>>16985750
It would probably be too easy to bust out 'growing bigger' jokes here, right

Damn this frustration. Every new game is the same, it's like 10% away from being good except ZUN is retarded about risk/reward. If they were just plain shit I could forget about it, but they're fun and I like the music and girls so I can't stop thinking about how easy it would be to fix them.

>>16985513
>TD would crash if you beat one of Mamizou's spell cards without dying/using a bomb
I don't remember that.
>MoF would crash if you passed a certain score
Wasn't that UFO?

So, stage 4 will be winter in the forest, right?
What kind of youkai do you expect to see?
Some shady mushroom thing?

>>16985819
Where did you get "in the forest" from?

And speaking of locations, where's the first stage supposed to be in? Just some random patch of sky?

>>16985825
The Prologue explains that it's snowing in the forest of magic.
Why did you think Marisa was wearing her winter clothing?

>>16985825
First stage is just somewhere peaceful in Gensokyou, supposedly where Cirno was when it started.
Second stage is in Tengu territory, hence autumn and Aya being in the game.
Third stage is next to the Hakurei Shrine, hence why it's in full bloom (see manual) and the new doggo.
Only winter and the Forest of Magic remains.

>>16985638
Is the english patch out?

>>16985877
Pieces of it for thcrap

It'll update automagically as changed

>>16985819
Alice Midboss.

This game seems far easier than the last few. Hope 4-6 up the challenge to 12 levels since the gameplay is so much more like 6-8.

>>16985903
Yukkuri

>>16985895
Letty Midboss

>>16985819
Reimu feels like "fairy", "witch", "komainu", and "four seasons" have some connection.

Fuck if I know what, though. Maybe something classical and related to winter?

...snowman youkai or something?

>>16985895
I feel like that would be rather out of character for her, she seems more like the type of person to shut herself inside because it's snowing.

>>16985903
The new game feels similar to PCB, IN and MoF with regards to difficulty, I think it was just specifically everything from SA onwards that was hard (except TD and DDC, but those are still harder than the three mentioned above)

>>16983512
By far the most disappointing part of the demo

>>16985961
What if Yuki-Onna?
That would be neat.

>>16985978
Ohh, I could see that.

>>16985978
So Letty.

>>16985978
Letty being a mid-boss and the boss being another Yuki-Onna could be possible.

>>16985978
>>16985955
You might be onto something...

>>16985815
DDC was good. But I mean yeah other than that game every game since UFO has had at least one major thing wrong with it.

>>16985978
why would komainus be related to yuki onnas

>>16985989
>>16985990
The boss is going to be a Yeti.

Why won't Zun give Marisa her good lasers back? Is her power getting weaker as she hits puberty?

>>16985986
>>16985989
Is Letty a yuki-Onna?
I thought Letty was just a winter spirit and yuki-onnas were spooky spirits that killed people in winter.

While we're all on the train on 16, I guess I should ask if anyone played 15.5.

Also, I simplified the comprehensive chart from last bread for people who don't care about what isn't on the screen.

>>16986031
Like a 9ball, I forgot to actually add the photo.

>>16986021
Yes, according to PMiSS

>>16986041
And now we wait for someone to figure out how to put twenty damn characters in there next to ULIL.

>>16986043
Then it certainly won't be another one.
It will probably be something unrelated to winter.

>>16986009
it's gotta be some sorta themeing

My guess was "classics". Komainu, fairies, and witches are all pretty classice

>>16986043
huh, I really did not know that; just thought she was a random cold youkai

>>16986012
that'd be fun

Although, I think it should also be a forest creature. The witch is technically a mountain witch, the fairy's in open fields, the komainu's at a shrine; all appropriate places

>>16984735
You have to play on lunatic.

>>16986017
Marisa is already a full-grown woman.

When is Phantasmagoria of Iridescent Seas coming out?

>>16986017
Aya has a piercing laser.

I really don't like the organ opening for the new menu music. Something about it plus Reimu fading it closer just feels very unnatural.

>>16986031
I played 15.5. It doesn't interest me at all honestly, it's just 14.5 with tag attacks and a grab. If you liked 14.5 you'll like this, if not you won't.

>>16986145
I like 14.5 and I'm iffy about this. A lot of the systems that gave ULiL depth are gone.

>>16986214
Can you elaborate? I admittedly didn't play much ULiL so I'm not sure what's been removed other than Smash Balls.

>>16985964
Butting in

When you say that are you factoring in use of releases or not?

>>16986017
Her lasers in this game are actually the most powerful shot in the game, baring shotgunning as Aya. But Aya was handed the op ball in this game so it's not fair to compare.
ZUN put on his blindfold and threw a dart to decide who got to be op in this game, and it just happened to fly out the window next to his dartboard and hit a passing crow.

>>16986218
The biggest thing is declare canceling, which was a major part of both extending combos and making unsafe moves more safe. There's also the change in how the charge shot works, which makes it impossible to combo them into anything, and generally makes them more or less useless. Replacing it with that useless continuous danmaku was an odd choice as well.

>>16984476
Check "Standard" for input method in custom.exe, then move th16.cfg from the th16 folder to th16tr in Application Data.

>>16986218
Removing smash balls was the best thing they could have possibly done to ULiL. The spellcard system is still absolute trash, though.

>>16986227
Is the crow fine?

>>16986255
Of course, now it can go fast

Cirno's bomb seems pretty good

>>16986262
More like, "Belongs in the trash."

>>16986270

>>16986259
>DA BEST!
What's with the decision to mispell "the"?

>>16986000
DDC has similar problems

Cirno's scenario
http://srv.thpatch.net/lang_en/th16/st01b.msg.jdiff
http://srv.thpatch.net/lang_en/th16/st02b.msg.jdiff
http://srv.thpatch.net/lang_en/th16/st03b.msg.jdiff

I keep reflexively pressing restart after I die once

Also I was hoping Aya's bomb would be her survival spell from mof. Didn't happen, but that flash bomb might as well be it.

>>16986231
The actual way to get your charge shots to fire is to tag while charged. It gives you a powerful shot when you come in as the other character.

>>16986374
That's not the same thing, and the charged shots from ULiL are still in. You just hold x, then tap x and forward. But they're awful now because of how you use them.

>>16985978
On wikipedia it says that in many regions of Japan, the yuki-onna is virtually synonymous with the yamanba.

>>16984668
> Her spread is useless and even at max power she's weak as fug.
ah, so he captured Cirno perfectly

What does pressing C do for each kind of season?

why the fuck does everything take so long to die now, it was like this in th15 too and i fucking hated it

I'm getting ridiculously high framerates when I run the game in wine, to the point where everything is going too fast and the game breaks. What components am I missing to fix this? Anyone have the Touhou Linux guide?

>>16986443
Spring briefly clears bullets in an area around you. Radius scales with season level.

Summer is similar to spring, but the area doesn't scale at all - in exchange, it only costs one sub-option, instead of losing all of them. It's good if you're looking for a panic button in a survival run. On the other hand, the options aren't very good.

Fall gives you GOES FAST and clears bullets in a small area that follows you, higher season level increases its duration. Hilariously overpowered on higher difficulties, and the uncontested best pick for scoring.

Winter is similar to fall (small area, long duration), but the area is stationary and it boosts your attack power instead of your speed. Good for dealing damage if you're able to drop it at point-blank. The options deal pretty high damage as well.

Note that while they clear bullets, they don't actually make you invincible - I learned the hard way that you'll still die if you run into an enemy. Also, you can't deathbomb with them.

>>16986503
Thanks, so the seasonal shot types and effects are independent on characters, right?

>>16984476

Weird, it works fine for me (wine 2.0).

>>16986496
vblank is probably turned off

do the opposite of this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17196117/

>>16986538
This. The launcher I hacked up years ago has comments like

>Remember: if a Windows game is running to fast, turning
>on vsync in your driver's configuration (or perhaps
>xorg.conf.d) may help

Assuming that we're running similar setups, you may later run into this comment:

>Remember: if your controls aren't recognized, try
>running custom.exe and setting the Direct Input option

>>16986538
Interesting. I'll see what changes from this.

>>16986503
Spring gives you invincibility that lasts longer than the clearance area itself.

I'd assume summer works like this too but it sucks so I'm not gunna check.

Does anyone know if the characters have passives like reimu having a smaller hitbox?

>>16986589
Summer's not that bad at all, you get to keep your shot while spamming releases for score. Spring and Winter give you a good shot but that's also under the assumption that you're basically never going to release.

Aya Spring does surprisingly low damage

Anyone got a 15.5 link?

>>16986675
Phoneposting now but it's on the front page of Moriya Shrine

So what's the best combination for lunatic? Fall Reimu?

>>16983546
>Autumn is a forward firing shot
More like it's Alice's option from SA, where each level fires in a different way. No switching positions when focusing though.

>>16986291
people would rather meme than provide accurate translations, it seems

>>16986515
Shot types are the Main Season which stick with characters.
The interchangeable slot is the Secondary Season, used in the season burst.
Note I haven't actually played it so I could be completely wrong.

>>16986905
I can't say I'm all that surprised, the Tojiko and Futo quote graphics on thpatch are all Robotnik quotes rather than what they're supposed to say

>>16986905
Translators need to be bullied

>>16986905
Now that I think of it, this doesn't surprise me. On the English thpatch translation, the Tojiko and Futo speech bubble graphics for the Miko fight all have Sonic quotes instead of what they're supposed to say.

>>16986936
I bullied them into fixing it.

>>16986056
Well, if it's just twenty characters, it would fit without any trouble. But, I heard something about teams. I'm not into fighting games, so what's the deal with them? Because twenty characters and the need to choose TWO of them equates to 380 possible options, given that the pairs AB and BA are not the same thing and that you can't choose yourself as a supporting character. It's not a sane number.

>>16986978
You're a good man.

>>16986905
It's THCRAP. This is what you get when you have a publicly edited wiki be the source for your script kiddie tool.

I mean they got endless meme translations available. I mean like PIRATE SPEECH patch because it's zany and randum and funny.

I miss when we didn't rely on that shit pile for translation patches.

>>16986291
Jamsta Cirno, da DJ with da power.

>>16986990
Strangely Touhou seems to keep attracting younger fans even as it declines.

>>16986990
(You) can translate using thcrap too.
Why won't you create a lang-en-actual-translation patch?

>>16986938
To be fair that particular mistranslation is a pretty harmless meme that I personally find rather funny.

>>16987126
>harmless
If by harmless you mean associating everyone involved with le dank memes beloved only by fifteen-year olds on twitch and youtube then sure ok.

>>16987026

I was teaching a 12 year old today and he caught a glance of my wallet with a Flandre silhouette, I was taken aback when he recognized it. How can kids even get into touhou in the first place?

>>16987040
>Why won't you create a lang-en-actual-translation patch?
Has no one done this yet?

>>16987470
My friend's siblings know about Touhou due to him letting them play Hisoutensoku. They are having fun with it and they love Suika due to how she looks.

>>16984444
Enter the passwords "kill bill" and "good grief". Then cycle through the character list backwards 5 times, forward twice and enter the Konami Code. Putting in "Richter" or "Trevor" just gives Aya and Reimu riot gear.

Finished the demo on Lunatic for the first time. Forgot to take a picture of the stage clear screen at the end so I decided to watch my replay up to that point. I was speeding up the replay and the replay got completely desynched. Past a certain point, Aya was just standing in place dying over and over again.

>>16987604
I heard that this could be fixing by selecting the same character and shot type and then returning back to main menu.

>>16987470
So apparently this guy >>16943272 is teaching 12 year olds.
An English teacher, no doubt. I'm sure the children's parents would be delighted to find out what your hobbies are.

>>16983765
Stop dying.
Alternatively, realise that you're actually supposed to collect P items.

>>16987604
I heard that this could be fixed by gitting gud and stop lying

>>16987607
It actually fixed it. Really weird.

>>16985661
LIVING HERE IN >JERSEY

>>16986496
>>16986242

>>16987643
Someone's jealous.

>>16987656
Here is what happens in the same replay without selecting the character and returning to menu before playing it. Look at the 0 in the corner of the game screen. Replay Aya has officially stopped any inputs at this point.

>>16987470
>>16987683
It's just nice to know that Japan hires pedophiles to teach English to their children.
Jealous? If I was a pedo, I definitely would be.

>>16987735
Very jealous, evidently.

>>16983983
The yellow-spread faries can get bullied just as hard by any high-damage combination, you don't need Marisa's nuclear firepower to do the job.
If Marisa was able to kill the red-spread fairies before they shoot, then I'd be sold.

>>16984045
Stay in the circle created by the release.

>>16984156
The music makes every stage remind me of GFW.

>>16984246
>Can you cancel deaths with releases like bombs?
I'm pretty certain you cannot death-release, as I tried to do that in-game a few minutes ago and just died (I was just trying to release but a bullet caught me just at that moment).

>>16987801
Can confirm, you cannot death-bomb with releases, unlike with Trance mode in TD.

>>16987643
>>16987735

Ayyy. For your information there were some children walking around the same halls in which some of those books were being sold. In fact one of my middle schoolers students even wants to sneak in the next comiket, amidst all the porn.

You're delusional if you think your western view will fly here, or that anyone will give a shit about 2D stuff.

>>16984585
I guess opinions CAN be wrong.

>>16984586
Winter is already top-tier

>>16984558
Umm actually sweetie it's Spring > Summer > Fall > Winter, and then back to Spring again.

>>16987808
Since you're a gaijin English teacher, they probably expect you to be a loser anyway.

>>16984653
You shouldn't even need to Release on Easy, but sure.
Winter's arguably the best for unskilled players, because it creates a safety bubble for you to just sit and shotgun the boss from within.
Alternatively, Summer for the newbies who know when to bomb but still aren't very good at danmaku, as Releasing with Summer only uses one gauge instead of all of them at once.

>>16987808
Hah, he didn't even try to deny anything.

>one of my middle schoolers students even wants to sneak in the next comiket
Yeah, he'll sneak under your trench coat.

Fall Aya is so much fun to play. Just going fast and doing suicidal charges around the bosses.

So what's the power ranking for lunatic?

Fall > summer > winter > spring?

>fall top tier for best release despite mediocre shot
>summer second for multiple releases and okay shot for taking out stage enemies
>winter third for mediocre release and really good shot
>spring last for pretty underwhelming shot and okay release

It's super easy to collect season points on lunatic from all the bullets, primary shot is much more important than secondary, and score gives lives, so that makes the release of a season more important than the shot. The only exception here is the winter shot, which fucking tears up bosses.

>>16986990
Yeah, good thing we still have the IN static patch with "Bitch, get out of the way" and the ambiguously translated Ghost Team ending which created confusion about Eirin and the Hourai Elixir.

>>16987326
It's harmless because who is even going to notice that aside from one autist on /jp/? It's the first I've heard of it, and most importantly, it's not changing the meaning or intention of what the characters are saying.

>>16987920
>the ambiguously translated Ghost Team ending which created confusion about Eirin and the Hourai Elixir
What do you mean?

>>16985222
I would say either Winter for MAXIMUM POWER or Spring/Summer to give her the spread she needs to handle stage sections more handily.

>>16987903
Pretty much agree with that for now.

Fall is easily the best on Lunatic. Unless the real game changes things around, no other season can come close in score or general usefulness. Winter might end up being better than Summer in the main game when you get to the later bosses or the extra stage but no way of knowing now. I feel like spring has the potential to get more score than summer or winter by timing a big charge just right in the bosses face but that would be an extremely unsave strategy to pull off, especially multiple times.

>>16985402
Is Etarnity a fairy? I took her for a bug youkai like Wriggle.
If so, step up Clownpiece, new Best Fairy has arrived.

>>16987903
>>16987990
What exactly makes fall so good for scoring?

>>16985696
Literally every track from LoLK is 10/10.

>>16988020
From what I saw in that 505 score video the fact that the release area follows you is what you can abuse.

>>16988020
It's released around your character and follows your exact position, eating up all the bullets you run into. This allows you to charge right into the most dense packs of bullets and quickly go back out. The release is instantly charged again because of the hundreds of bullets you just absorbed and can be used almost right away again. Eating up bullets with your release not only gives you score but also increases the point item values in general (that number under your power). This way you quickly get even more score.

Meanwhile, all the other releases do not move and have to be placed in just the right spots to eat lots of bullets. Getting into dense areas is super dangerous and going right on to the bullet spawn points is often not possible.

>>16986255
It died and went to hell to become a power generator or something.

>>16987903
Depends on what you're playing. For regular clears and no bomb runs your list seems right. For no release runs(with or without bombs), Winter > Spring > Fall > Summer.

>>16986293
Like what? Ill admit characters aren't as balanced as they could be but none of them are completely broken. And the resource collection is fine.

>>16985707
>>16986242
Thank you, but neither of these did work. I think I remember having the same issue with LoLK and the vsync patch resolved it. I'll just wait.

>>16986611
Do we actually know if Reimu has her malnutrition hitbox in this game?

>>16988042
I didn't like the instruments he used for LoLK really at all. It didn't seem like Touhou. The tracks weren't bad, but it just didn't feel like they belonged in the series. There were a few good ones like the stage 4 and 6 themes, I will admit. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

>>16988204
For sure. I'm a fan of the faster tracks in Touhou, as well as when the game is taking a more "serious" tone, which is really what the LoLK music conveys well.
Before LoLK my favourite ost was IN by a long shot.

>>16987967
The static patch we all know mistranslated a line by Eirin that confirmed she had drunk the Elixir, thus some people thought (Inaba of the Moon, Inaba of the Earth is partially to blame) that, even if she had prepared the Elixir, she hadn't actually drunk it herself.

I feel retarded for not getting the release mechanic of the game. I haven't played 2hu since SA. I see my release meter but I have no idea how to release it

>>16988570
C key.

>>16988570
Just press every button on your keyboard, that's what I always do to find the gimmick

>>16988570
Press C
Admittedly this is more intuitive if you've played Ten Desires, as the Trance mechanic was also activated via C.

>>16988579
>>16988581
>>16988582
>playing with a keyboard

Fucking plebs.

>>16988689
Uh what are you playing with anon? Who doesn't use a keyboard? Casual as fuck

>>16988689
Who are you quoting?
Also a joystick is less pin-point responsive, not to mention that whenever you try to swap movement to the opposite (like going right and now want to go left) there will be an inherent delay because the stick has to move from one side to the other, as opposed to the instantaneous press of a keyboard button.
Controller is objectively worse.

>>16988705
why play with a stick when dpad is better for 8-way movement

>>16988721

Isn't the D-Pad essentially a stick?

>>16988967
the delay between switching directions is more precise, but still not as good as direction keys

Is Spring Cirno the worst shot type/season combo?

>>16986938
That's some great shit, I have to see it in action. Did they fix it yet?

>>16986990
What a baby, nobody is forcing you to use the joke translations. They're fucking joke translations, dude.

And any mistranslations product of some kid editing the lines before someone else can in the main English patch are going to get fixed by the actual translators in due time. Why do you think those people are there?

>>16987824
ayyy

>>16989113
It's probably good for spell timeout runs because you don't need to deal focus damage anyway and the stage segments are obliterated.

>>16988192
I'd like to assume so but I have no idea how to verify that.

Doing Reimu winter right now. Why does releasing seem so much more effective and makes boss battles easier on Hard rather than Normal?

>>16989516
Bullet density I guess?

>>16987855
I could hang in the back with Reimu and wait for the homing shot to do its work.

Or, I could shotgun them in the face with Aya.

I could enjoy the increased firepower afforded by the winter secondary fire

Or, I could constantly gamble away fall charges playing Aya the personal space invader and accidentally dying from colliding with the boss.

Guess we're going with Aya this round. Gonna die a lot from repeatedly violating common sense but, it'll be fun.

>>16988152
If you watch a score run it's just bombing

>>16989516
More boolets to cancel with your release, giving you back much more release every time than on normal.

Does the winter release amplify damage just by being out or do you/the enemy need to be standing in it?

>>16989814
You need to be in it.

So what determines which Release you have? Is it the character or the option?
Like is the Spring Release tied to Reimu, or the secondary season option that any character can have?

>>16989929
The 4 options you can select for each character are your choice of release. Any character can have any release.

>>16989934
So then why do score runs use Aya? Any character could have her broken fall release, what makes her stand out?

>>16989955
Very fast birb moving at incredibly hgih speeds

>>16989955
Fastest movement speed, very good bomb and a nice shot type.

>>16989814
It also does massive damage if you drop it on the boss, but that is quite risky.

>>16989955
Her and Cirno's bomb are the only ones you can set off in a way that doesn't eat up the boss's bullets while giving you invincibility. This is used to graze up some patterns for extra season gauge for longer releases, or for when you're out of gauge for even a single release and want to save a life. Aya is also much, much faster than Cirno, which means that for any given release duration, you can hit more bullets with your shield which equals more PIV gain than you could if you were using Cirno.

- autumn type
- dive into a dense patch of bullets with your can of compressed air
- back down
- listen for the "releasable ready" signal, which is almost always guaranteed on lunatic because of how many bullets there are to cancel
- repeat until boss dies
This is what the complete 180 degree turn you get when so many retards cry about Pointdevice. I bet it's the preferred method for scoring too.

>>16990205
don't they keep separate shot types in separate high score tables anyways?

also it looks like spell practice is back. I wonder if we'll be getting any overdrive/last word cards.

Which character is the best for each season? Aya is obviously the best for autumn. Are the other characters also best for their own season?

>>16990205
>I bet it's the preferred method for scoring too.
Fucking obviously, people have gotten 500m in the demo with it already, and I've seen speculation that a TAS could get about 2b in the demo with it.
All other characters can only get around 10m if you're doing really well.

>>16990266
Yes, but all of the shottypes are filed together under the one character, so if you even wanted to do score runs without the broken shottype, if you played Aya they would never even get into your highscore tables if you've done Aya!Fall.

Any good Spring runs uploaded yet? I feel like it has the potential to be the 2nd best at scoring.

>>16990292
It's impossible to say. Autumn's the odd one out here for having one objectively best match in Aya, as her traits suit the hyper-scoring method that autumn lends itself to.
For example winter give you high-damage, but very low spread options. You can argue that this is best for Marisa because it results in the highest damage output on single-targets, primarily bosses. Or you can argue that it's best for Reimu or Cirno to make up for their low single-target damage, and to supplement their otherwise entirely spread-based shottypes for stage segments. Without winter, both character suffer at quickly killing big fairies.

>>16990349
Doesn't autumn just make you go super fast regardless of character anyway? With base Reimu you might generate even more items in the long run with the homing shot.

>>16990308
>All other characters can only get around 10m if you're doing really well.
I got a bit over 40m with Reimu+Winter on Lunatic and I'm basically a Hard mode player. Sure Autumn is the best season, but there's no need to exaggerate quite so grossly.

>>16990403
I'm a non-scoring, Normal-mode playing casual. I was completely guessing at what the other characters could score.
Point is, Aya's score potential is exponentially higher than anything else the other characters can dream of.

>>16990363
When you use the Release, your speed is increased a lot for its duration, but your character's base movement speed also plays a part. Aya is the fastest, so during Autumn Release she's still the fastest. Another big factor is her bomb, which gives her invincibility frames for the whole duration and can be popped at the side of the screen so that it's not damaging the boss or clearing the bullets in the center, meaning you can freely graze a shitton of stuff while the bomb is going off. The only other character with a similarly functioning bomb is Cirno, but she's the slowest character in the cast so it obviously doesn't work nearly as well.

>>16990342
I have a ReimuSpring survival run but I guess that's not what you're looking for.

>>16990440
My casual ReimuFall no bomb run ended at ~170m with minimal effort. I'd say you can still do decently on AnyFall but obviously Aya is the best. There's a 720m AyaFall run already on youtube.

>>16990308
I got 60m with Reimu/Winter on normal

>>16990440
>Point is, Aya's score potential is higher than anything else the other characters can dream of.
I didn't deny that.
>exponentially
That's not a word you can use here. Is 4 exponentially greater than 2?

>>16990574
>Is 4 exponentially greater than 2?
Hell yes. 2-fags can get out.

>>16990308
>All other characters can only get around 10m if you're doing really well.
Oh wow, you fucking suck. I'm a terrible player and I still get upper 20m/lower 30m scores.

>>16990574
4 is 2^2, so yes.

Summer is strange to me.

I think it's the most economical option release wise in that each release will prevent the player for being hit for a decent amount of time while only consuming one option.

But, the options feel so worthless in boss fights. Like, what's the point of a monkey being conservative about flinging shit? It's shit. There's a lot of it and it's just sitting around. Might as well fling it at someone.

>>16990585
>>16990632
Exponential growth is faster than other kinds of growth, but saying a number is "exponentially" greater than another is nonsensical since the bigger number is also just a multiple of the smaller one.
If Aya had a mechanic unique to her that allowed her to increase the PIV, that would still only make her score growth a higher-order polynomial growth (say ^3) than the other characters' score (also polynomial, say ^2) growth.

Yo /jp/ Do you folks know where i should start with touhou? I really liked the demo and i figured i would plow though the series. Should i start with The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil or?

>>16990721
6 isn't too bad a starting place, but personally I find 10, 7, and 8 to be a lot more friendly with resources and patterns. 4 and 5 (especially 4) are absolutely perfect for beginners if you don't mind emulating PC-98.

np2 and T98 are accurate emulators that need a bit of setting up to work properly, while Anex is inaccurate but just werks. The English translation patch files has instructions on how to set up each.

>>16990721
Start with whatever catches your fancy, honestly. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil is alright.

>>16990721
Mountain of Faith plays a lot like 16, I think.

>>16990668
"Exponential" is a term associated with "really fast" when non-technical people talk about rates. No need to get your autism fired up over it. This isn't a math test.
That said, yes, "exponential" is inappropriate. Aya's score growth should just be a linear scale of other characters' score growth.

>>16990736
>>16990737
I'll look into the PC-98 games later, Thanks for helping.

>>16990769
My friend told me that also, But i think starting with 6 would be a good idea for me. Thanks for the suggestion.

>>16990788
Slight update, Touhou 6 won't run.
It freezes on startup. Tried running it on administrator and/or in compatibility mode from windows 98/me to windows 8. Got any solutions? I'm running on the english patch by the way.

>>16990808
>Got any solutions?
Try rebooting your computer
I'm not joking

>>16990835
What the fuck. It worked.

>>16990808
My friend had this problem and we fixed it just by launching the game in full screen mode.

So whats the best combo once and for all?

>>16989744
I mean, there's a lot of bombing, but it isn't complete bomb spam. If that's too much bombing for your liking then that's ok and you can say you don't like the game, but it isn't objectively a problem. Personally I have no problem with it.

>>16990855
It always does. Technology is magic, don't think about it too hard.

>>16990873
Aya Autumn, hands down in every regard.
If you want to play fair, Reimu Winter seems really powerful.

>>16990906
Reimu Autumn feels really powerful as well, somehow.

>>16990906
Reimu Winter can play dirty really well too if you ask me.

>>16990873
Scoring: Aya Fall, no contest.
Plain or no bomb survival: Reimu Fall. Aya Fall is a close second but Reimu's homing helps a lot in stage portions.
No bomb no release survival: Reimu Winter. Reimu Spring is a close second: it's better for stages but slightly worse for bosses.

>>16990936
I love sitting on Nemuno's head to trivialize her "midboss" pattern with Reimu Winter. I was also really surprised as her capacity to vaporize most of the big fairies, I didn't expect Reimu to reach that level of power when I found out she was a homing shot.

Is summer good for anything?

>>16991017
Good for beginners on lower difficulties maybe?

>>16991017
Summer Reimu can sit still and destroy all small enemies; not good against bosses though.