/jp/ - Otaku Culture

As a forward I'm pretty bad at this review business.
Just finished the Leyline trilogy, that was a really enjoyable ride.
It was never boring, every episode was genuinely either amusing or interesting. Felt quite well paced, even in the less important episodes i thoroughly enjoyed the antics.
As for the characters, with a couple of exceptions (I'm looking at you late additions) I was really taken with them all. Nice to see more than one male support character. Overall I think Lui was probably my favorite.
Story wise I saw pretty much all the twists coming, a couple did catch me by surprise but they were mostly things I'd seen before.
I really have very little to criticize about this trilogy, I would have appreciated a little more fleshing out on the sub heroine routes I suppose. I think they were all two hours at a stretch.
Honestly I'm really looking forward to whatever Unison Shift does in the future, I had good fun with Flyable Heart too.

Unfortunate English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOvsxOJfsdI

>>16962358
>or light of hoop?

Spellcheck or machine translation would have improved this trailer. It's like they don't even give a fuck. (They don't)

Finished Tsukikage no Simulacre. Quite a bit weaker then I hoped it would be.

It mostly suffers from having a story that's why too short for its length which results into a lot of repetition in small doses all the time. Especially because there are a lot of branches, as enforced as they may be.

I'm not too happy how character are handled either. A lot of them have little to nothing to do with the plot. The first "path" you take after the free version is focused on a girl who literally doesn't matter for anything and might as well not even exist. The romance is generally not existing either and completely built on "she liked him before the game started already" and "shit's hitting the fan, so let's roll with this". There's little to no "fun times" with the characters, so a character completely irrelevant for the plot in the end sticks out pretty badly. And most characters end up like that, even if they have something to do with the plot, they are just "on the way".
The game is structured really weirdly in that regard. Kinda funny how it feels both padded with way too much repeating things here and there, and yet rushed at the same time as a lot of potential in regards to the relationships between characters and their importance gets wasted.


I still think that at its core is a nice story, although part of the final climax was a bit silly and forced, but it wasn't pretty long and ultimately didn't matter much. That said, the way it was presented was.. suboptimal. Music was nice, could've used a bit more art at a few key-points though. Weird how at first it seemed to try and avoid bloody scenes but later on showed some.. probably because the first weren't young girls........... oh man. Pic related. A bit nsfw obviously.

>>16962248
Was the 2nd game considerably better than the 1st game, like that other guy said?

Also if you haven't already make sure to read KimiNago, it's the best.

>>16962358
It was the thing which is sometimes talked about as the meme which got more like the commonplace occult, but is not a simple ordinary idle talk.
He is Wilhelm Ehrenburg.

普通のオカルトのようになったミームとして時には話されていたものですが、単純な普通のアイドルトークではありません。
彼はWilhelm Ehrenburgです。

I was expecting Saya to pop out.

Someone has the game 次の犠牲者をオシラセシマス －崩壊する世界に死神と－? (it's the 3rd one from the 3 games). I lost the game and the nyaa torrent doesn't have seed anymore. Pls help me, I need that game version, it's the version that I played. I can't find that version anywhere on the net.

>>16963577
Yes, the first game was the weakest of the three.
The plot gets much more interesting in the second game, the new characters in it are great too.

>>16962248
I also enjoy when there's more than 1 token male character. I mean I'm straight so maybe I shouldn't care, but something about game after game after game being chock-full of nothing but girls beside the protag gets almost bland after awhile. I start craving a change of pace from all the usual archetypes. Then again I've been playing shitty moege every month for years now so I'm probably a bit more overexposed than most.

why are there no idol vns? there's only like 8 in total and only one thats recent

>>16962248
the mc is pretty hot why did they make him ugly here?

Looks cute
https://youtu.be/AMjSmpXZfR4

Speaking of idol vns what's that one that came out last year, where some of you were pretty hyped about.
It involved the girl pleasing and sleeping her way to the top.

>>16965295
Even outside of 'shitty moege' one token male character is par for the course. I can think of at least a few really good titles that still ran with it.
It does irritate me a little, adding a couple of male characters even if they are fairly archetypal just makes the group of characters as a whole more dynamic.

>>16965325
I don't know man, I think he still looks pretty dashing.
Also hes clearly bending/squatting down and he's still over her standing height, he's pretty huge.

holy fucking SHIT

Eve Burst Error possibly has my favorite MC of all time, up there with kageaki
God damn, he's amazing

>>16964245
This link still works

https://game360.ctfile.com/file/78277403

Click on the blue button and on the next screen click on the blue button on the left as well. The game can be in chinese, but the thread says it's in Japanese so it's probably okay.

The source is here:
http://bbs.tgbus.com/thread-3209168-1-1.html

>>16965329
>EXTRA
Who cares. Waiting for Zwei

>>16965329
I don't know about the whole one heroine per fandisc thing.
At least Mashiro is cute as hell, I'll still end up trying it.
We still don't know all the heroines in Zwei do we? There were afew girls in the original perfect for a sequel or fandisc, would be kinda shit if they all got passed over.

https://omochikaeri.wordpress.com/2017/05/04/may-2017-eroge-releases/

>>16965773
>Zen
>1. Nekopara vol.3 Neko-tachi no Aromatise
Well that explains his shit taste.

>>16965773
Ive had my eye on haruoto for awhile after watching the OP for it but as micchi said the demo hasnt been released yet and it has gone through months of delays. Aside from that and chronobox, seems like a backlog month.

Im more interested in 面影レイルバック finally getting released next month.

>>16965776

Nekopara is a meme.

>>16965834

If that newton thingy gets released, that may be worth checking out if you like comedy. Nothing else though, unless you want nukige.

>>16965773
What's the point without nyaa? None of us can play these games...

>>16965773
Another backlog month. Nice!

What's the appeal with nekopara? I've never bothered with it as I thought it would be another cafe sol.

>>16965895
EOPs can read it

>>16965866
Are you retarded? Just google the name of the game + anime sharing

>>16965941
Im pretty sure hes memeing, theres a stupid amount of options of getting the latest released games.

>>16965913
I feel like there's no other reason on why it's so popular.

>>16965959
It's also on steam and even had a trial. Japan can learn some things about marketing.

>>16965959
No shit. It's also accessible in its "weirdness" - it's just catgirls.

>>16965313
For an idol to continue her career, if she isn't a virgin she must pretend to be, and if she has a boyfriend she must pretend not to. It's also well understood that some companies will pressure idols into sex with promises of career advancement.
This has the effect of making any discussion about an idol's purity hazy at best, and we all know how big of an issue purity is for otaku. Most idol VNs contain non-virgin heroines, NTR, corruption, or some combination of the three. Niche stuff.
There's also a lot less crossover than you might think between idol-stalking otaku and otaku who chainsmoke VNs, as both are very time consuming as well as being highly expensive if you do them legally. And that's in addition to the 2D/3D split.
If you're desperate for one, you might try that yuri nukige Watashi dake no Idol. It only has light NTR in it. (The idol NTRs you from your girlfriend.)

>>16966037

To add to this: Idol stuff usually focuses on the girls and their relationships with each other, rather than some dude. It's kind of the same reason why the typical "magic girl" genre is pretty much not existing in VN, aside of the different 18+ take with tentacles and mind-break and whatnot. Idol stuff is very similar.

Eroge require an important penis of sorts that needs to get worshiped to an extend. I've seen a few examples where the penis was a little less important and a given route of a girl was less about her wanting the penis, but rather about maybe a friend, her future or something else. It's usually not too popular. The protagonist, often really little more than a wall to bounce back dialogue with an attached penis, has to be very important. It.. hinders stuff.


Well, this however is all just a generic view on things: Eroge don't actually absolutely require any of this, and can still be pretty popular. It's just risky and needs the writers to actually leave the holy book of 50 eroge tropes behind they base all their works on. You can find a few works including magical girls or idols here and there. With little exception though, they completely fail to produce what that'd normally mean, as they just make a normal eroge with those "types" without ever entering the respective genres.

There's this game with an idol and seiyuu heroine in an unique theatre setting. Supposedly pretty good
https://vndb.org/v845

These for magical girls (non-nukige)
https://vndb.org/v193
https://vndb.org/v3939

>>16965295
>>16965345
Honestly, I'd pass on dudes if given the choice. Anything a male best friend can do a tomboy lesbian best friend can do better. If a VN isn't trying to have a real plot, only maintaining the shell of one as a framing device for cute girls and romance, then why have a recurring character who's completely the opposite of what your audience wants? It's like putting a rascist chinese charicature in your generic romance movie. Nobody you could reasonably expect to be in your audience wants to see that.
I don't have anything against dudes. I watch reverse harem anime, I read shoujo manga, I even read otome VNs. (Normally because the lead girl looks cute, but yeah.) I have no problem with men in VNs with actual plots, or in comedy VNs, or in anything at besides vanilla nukige and moege. I'm just tired of starting up a moege, reading it for an hour, and not seeing a heroine.
Men can be fine as long as they're kept out of the way, popping up only when needed and given as few art assets as possible. The way they are normally used in moege is anything but that. They swagger around, taking up screenspace and crying about how the protagonist gets laid more than them. Why should a story about how great love is have a major character love has abandoned? It's a thematic own goal. The only thing possibly worse than that is when a heroine falls in love with them, which does happen and is as cucky and disgusting as you'd expect.
The only good thing about male characters in moege is that they make the rare reverse trap heroine possible, and they are lovely.

>>16966253
>If a VN isn't trying to have a real plot,
It's not about plot, it's about friendships.
Moege are half romance games, half comedy games about friends. In pure romance games like Hoshi Ori, yes a friend isn't needed, no characters really are needed except the protag and the heroine. But in moege male friends are invaluable for enhancing the comedy and friendship aspects of the game - and most moege aren't just "framing for cute girls and romance", most are seishun simulators with a good amount of comedy and SOL beyond romance and cuteness.

>>16963471
It's marketed as middle priced title.
It's really not up to par with their full priced titles, but I enjoy it nevertheless.
Basically it worth the price tag.

>>16966253
I agree with >>16966299 in that a big benefit of a stronger male cast is better comedy and group dynamics. It really improves the whole slice of life aspect of the game. If it's basically a dating-sim sort of deal then yeah, not needed.
In almost every instance I've seen it attempted, a decent male cast has been a plus to the game.

>>16966435

Price has nothing to do with its issues. Like I said, it feels both padded and rushed at the same time. They could've reduced the content by a third and the game would've been overall better.. or actually make a worthwhile conclusion giving answers to the little mysteries built and use all the characters in a climax. But as it was, the first two heroine "routes" ended up being utterly useless and irrelevant, and they don't really work as normal standalone routes either.


It's a messy work. That sums it up. And to me it leaves a rather bitter aftertaste, as it could've been a lot more. Everything was assembled. And you'd think the author would realize something is wrong when he writes the ending/epilogue where all characters get to comment one final time, and one heroine has never even appeared in this "true route" before and is like "hey, you are back in this town? Awesome!".

Kaziklu Bey was great, obviously I knew it wouldn't be as good as the main Dies Irae but they made a pretty solid attempt. Really follows the structure of serious, powerful introduction -> fun SoL -> occasional fights mixed in -> epic long final climax -> moving epilogue.

If I had to raise a complaint it's that I didn't really like Rui that much, he wasn't particularly fun or interesting, but the other characters more than made up for that. Of course Beatrice overshadowed everyone else a bit by being so perfect in every possible way, but Claudia was a great heroine too, shame we'll probably never see her again.

>>16966494
Well, it was basically a free shorty game made standard sized, I read hi no nai tokoro and was kinda crap too.

>>16966710

I don't know about the other one, but this never was much of a free game. It was a trial that was published as a free game.

In other words, this was never written as just a free game and then extended. Just reading the free part is bringing you to the opening movie of the paid version for a reason. Of course that's one heck of a weird thing, but seeing how this kind of idea didn't get repeated yet, there's not much use to think too much about it. Probably won't be happening again.

>>16965773
doesn't load

>>16966253
>tomboy lesbian
I fucking hate this so much.
I'd rather have a sissy cum faggot who talks about how much he wants to suck dick every sentence.

That said, I agree with most of the other parts you said it's kinda annoying when a male is put in for bad comic relief and doesn't really so anything and just whine about not getting laid.
That said I would like to see males if they actually contribute as actual characters and not just cheap comic relief.

>>16967514

Are there any good <1Mb short moege (for common + 1 route at least)? I get tired of them quickly when they're too long

>>16967918

Most moege are <1mb for one play-through. You can pretty much try anything there. Try to avoid ones with enforced route-order or true-routes. That's kinda borderline leaving the moege genre already, as they obviously try to tell SOME kind of main-story so the approach of just reading one route isn't working too well there.

For the whole game to be around that length you can check out mid-price games, for example anything by alcot honeycomb. Keep in mind they don't only do moege, though it's a mid-price label.

>>16967918
then don't play them.

>>16965345

>>16968000
He likes short ones. Why tell him to not play what he likes?

>>16967969
I guess the ones I usually hear about like Aokana, Daitoshokan or Miagete are exceptions rather than the rule. At least they seem really long.
Honeycombs length is nice indeed I played two games by them. One was good, the other one not so much. The rest of their catalog doesn't peak my interest. Any similar brands?

>>16968123

Aokana has a long common route as far as I know, Daitoshokan is actually not long for one playthrough. But it has a lot of "parts", so the whole game is a little on the longer side. (a good 2 mb)

As far as brands go.. I don't think there's much else, aside of Campus doing their (usually) single heroine moege. Though several of them still take place in the same setting.. I think.
Similarly there's short stuff like Sailove (2 pretty short routes), and feng's recent "seiiki" series though that's also again one protag and the same setting.

That said, you could also try old games. Eroge became on average longer. Taking a look at egs and playtimes helps as well. Unless it's a super low rated game in the first place so people don't read everything, <15h average games should be what you want. Only really helps for double-checking once you have a title you are interested in though. Oh and.. the x cation games are a good idea as well if you don't mind a very "one heroine" focused work and some dating sim elements. (less in newer ones?) I only ever tried one of those (purely x cation and the route I read was between 500 and 600kb as far as I remember, and I'd assume that's roughly normal for that series.)

>>16965959
I fapped to the manga so many times plus it's catgirls.
cats>dogs

Look at this figure
this is how a real women should look like

>massive tits
>curvy hourglass body
>skinny waist
>thick thighs
and looks proportional for it all

dick status: muh

inb4 loli and trap posters

>>16968354
I love 90° rotated CGs

>>16968354

Stick a needle into those balloons and it goes boom. What that dude's doing there is super risky as well.

>>16968354
>inb4 loli

Never got the need for exclusivity. I like lolis and mature big tits women.

Maybe somewhat late but just a headsup that crack for Lovely Cation ver 1.02 is already a thing.

Should I force myself through Chaos;Head before playing Child? I'm not really interested in it but I'm not sure how closely related the two are.

>>16968853
It's not necessary at all, plus C;H is really bad. Only playing C;C is recommended

>>16968853
I only played C;C and enjoyed it a lot.

>>16968853
You probably won't need to force yourself, Head is pretty good for the first 2/3rds. Cool atmosphere that blends social anxiety and supernatural paranoia well. And when it gets dumb you can probably switch to Child because at that point you'll likely have gotten all you need from it.

Of course if you go into it thinking it's gonna be a struggle you're not exactly setting yourself up for a good time.

>>16968799
I really wish they didn't change their engine or whatever.

I prefer to keep the "Don't stop voices until next voiced line" setting on, but now it and the H-scene background voice start overlapping and it's a pain to change it every H scene.
Hopefully they can get that working eventually.

>>16969066
I can't understand why they needed to change it and for some reason many things went untested after doing so. Painfully obvious ones too.

Wonder how many updates will be necessary until everything is fixed and working as it needs to.

>>16968123
>Aokana, Daitoshokan or Miagete

Any other games like this? Those 3 are probably the only moege I truly enjoyed

>>16969251
kanishino maybe

>>16969101
It was probably for better performance from the e-mote they use. The past two games ran like shit unless you had a fairly good PC.

Why is every eroge 2-3x as long as it should be?

Recently started Lovely x Cation. I like the writing, it's kind of colorful.

>>16969508
Apparently length quotas
>>/jp/thread/S16739917#p16771057
Unless that was a rhetorical question.

>>16969508
Why does it feel like every modern eroge is stuffed with so many H scenes it could be a nukige?

>>16969536
i don't mind lots of h-scenes. the problem is just that they're so fucking boring and vanilla most of the time. especially in moege, it's always the same shit every time

>>16969564
My problem is more that it takes up a lot of space in the route and makes the route itself feel more empty. I don't mind H, but I generally skip over it if I'm not in the mood. I don't really read for the H, so it's just a bit disheartening when it feels like most eroge have 5+ H scenes per route (with not a whole lot going on in the route outside of that and feeling like there's not much character or relationship development going on) and there's not really an easy way to tell in advance if an eroge is going to be like that without spoiling myself by looking at a CG set or guide.

>>16965959
The art is nice and the catgirls are cute and fuckable. It's definitely nothing special, but it's good for a rub or two.

I haven't read anything other than vol. 1 but since its finally time to give Cinnamon the dick I might catch up.

>>16969536
I wouldn't mind so many H-scenes if it didn't feel like once they started there'd be only like 15 minutes between each scene until it's time for the two hours of mandatory shitty forced drama before the ending.

Anyone know where i can get 痕? for free

>>16969508
It's especially annoying when the common route is really long and you've decided in the first five minutes who you're planning to pursue.

>>16969744
i got that from the Leaf games collection when nyaa was still alive.

>>16969781
Thanks for the useless info.

>>16969788
i can try uploading my pre-installed copy to mega if you want

>>16969805
That would be nice, anon.

>>16969744
>>16969810
mega.nz

#!a1x3ADwJ

!xpmRnF600LadozVgT7A4B0APkVhfoFz0USrYoSmgcoc

So this happens, can listen but not see anything at all. Is this a matter of the graphic card of the machine I'm using? Or is it because I have the CCCP installed and somehow is messing up with this?

Well, if I can't manage to make it work guess it wasn't meant to be.

>>16970134
Are you using the newest patch?

>>16969788
No, it most definetly isn't useless.

Seems like you don't understand how torrents/magnet links work.

So just look for the collection and you'll find it.

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:XEWTJUJG7SCW26GYJ4IZHORHSSSPGMWF&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fi.bandito.org&tr=http%3A%2F%2F121.14.98.151%3A9090&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fannounce.opensharing.org%3A2710&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tfile.me&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbt.careland.com.cn%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.nyaatorrents.info%3A6544&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbigfoot1942.sektori.org%3A6969&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbt.poletracker.org%3A2710&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ffr33domtracker.h33t.com%3A3310&tr=http%3A%2F%2F94.228.192.98&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.deadfrog.us%3A42426&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.prq.to%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftv.tracker.prq.to%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80

>>16970162
Yes sir, 1.02, removed the codec pac and it didn't matter so I fear it's my computer's problem I'm afraid, unless there's some other thing I'm overlooking.

Istoria patch is finally out.

http://holyseal.net/cgi-bin/mlistview.cgi?prdcode=13844

>>16970134
Have anyone read 僕と、僕らの夏? Never read anything from Hayakari, and I want to know what to expect.

>>16970315
Nice. I wonder how much it actually fixed

Where will I download VNs now that nyaa.se is dead?

>>16970466
It has already been talked to death for the past few days in at least /a/, /jp/, /t/, /m/, /g/, and I think even in /gif/, names in the open here and there, guides, exchange of resources, etc. Now that it's starting to cool down I'll politely ask you to check the archives.

>>16970466
nice meme

>>16970315
Right when I finished the game too.

Man, you realize just how hard it is to have good MCs in your work...

But Hiroyuki Kanno somehow finds a way

>>16970655
may he RIP

he created some of my favorite stuff, also, exodus guilty's MC is one of the strong points of the game imo

is this lowkey racism

Anyone checking out the new Grisaia?

>>16970756
Japanese being Japanese, so yes.

Is the new lxc anything special or just the same thing with new characters?

Are you convinced?

>>16971307
The writing is certainly much better than the past 3 games during the part before the game shifts into Wife Mode, and the heroines certainly get a fair bit of development.
I haven't played much of Wife Mode to see how that unfolds due to waiting for more patches though.

>>16970091
Thanks anon, you are my hero.

>>16971318
>png

Stop. I'm not going to wait 30 seconds for 4chan's shitty servers to load the picture.

>>16971541

>>16971541
Here, I fixed it for you, and just for you.

>>16971573
i'm pleasantly surprised this is still perfectly legible

>>16971580

Small is fine too.

>>16971634
you call this small

>>16971654

That's not legible anymore though. Also Nobuchina is small, but not THAT small.

>>16970315
Better late than god dammit I'm almost finished.

>>16971715
Pretty ＊tips fefora＊ line.

>>16972052
Hence the filename, yeah. she's an interesting character though and I'll be pissed when there inevitably is no hatefuck scene.

>>16972098
Nice. Tbh I didn't even notice the filename.

>>16971541
I though png was for cartoons and jpg was for real life

>>16972744
That's for quality, yes, but png for cartoons makes the filesize several times larger so people tend to stick to jpg anyway

Completely done with Noraneko now. The other 3 routes after Patricia's were pretty much like expected. It doesn't really make much sense for any of them to happen, as all of them rewrite Patricia too much, and it just feels weird for the main-heroine to just randomly shift at the branching point. The common route feels mostly like it's part of Patricia's route.

That said, one of the big strengths of the game is the group-dynamic, and I've yet to see an eroge that gets the whole "group of friends" things better than this one. Admittedly, different groups of friends are different and that's also where taste comes into play. But this bunch felt like pretty "real" to me. A whole bunch of random talking, messing with each other but still being visibly close, getting exciting about random people doing random things in the school and laughing at it and so on. A lot of this is carried by Nobuchina, but she still needs the rest of the cast to work well obviously. And you get more of this if you read the other routes.

Aside of this it was interesting to see "not route" Patricia one more time to see that her character does indeed get weaker in her route, but not by a whole lot. Apart of that I ended up liking Kuroki way more than I thought (outside of romance stuff), and Asuhara quite a bit less than I thought.
The was also some story stuff, but I skipped almost all of it. What little I saw looked mostly pretty painful to be honest. The author is at his best when he does the "semi serious, semi fun" stuff that dominated Patricia's route. Although her route had some weird dips here and there as well towards the end.


All in all I had a lot of fun with this. For the sequel I just hope there's generally more of this group. And I expect great things for Nobuchina's route. She pretty much represents the cat thoughts and the hero story, so with both of that could be already done a lot. Then again, a half serious, half fun story about her family could be also fun. After-stories and the other stuff doesn't really interest me. I just hope the new characters aren't just killing the group or something.

>>16966299
Okay, so we're talking about a book that eschews a plot in favor of focusing solely on the theme of youth, and romance is included as a element of that theme. I can understand that. You can have romance in a book without it being a romance novel. Frankly, I'd never considered that perspective until now.
But you've got to understand where I'm coming from too. I don't care about youth as a theme. It just doesn't mean much to me. How am I, a person who only wants to read romance VNs, supposed to avoid the seishun ones?
I've never seen a male character on the cover of a visual novel who wasn't the protagonist. I've never heard of a VN that advertised on the box that you will spend solid hours of reading it without anything romantic happening. I can skip plot VNs by reading the synopsis, and do, but the synopsis of a romance novel and a seishun novel are the same.
If this type of story was avoidable I'd avoid it. The only way I've found that works is never reading VNs rated anything under R-18. It helps but I still end up with way too many romance-lacking VNs. I tried reading only vanilla nukige for a while but it turns out that I need at least one date per H-scene. So I just have to drop VNs super aggressively, like five a day. It's frustrating. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them.

>>16966450
In a comedy VN, I whole hog agree. Sausage the place up.
But group dynamics? The dynamics are between the protagonist and the heroines, everything else is parsley. If you need a genki character for group dynamics add a genki heroine. Having a penis only matters to group dynamics if the penis is going in something. Saying most VNs should have a male character for group dynamics is like saying most VNs should have a futa character for group dynamics.

>>16971307
Been nearing the end of the first year on Nono's route and its been alright so far but I havent been too impressed. The newly-wed portion of the game is the more focused portion so im going to keep playing.

On a small side note it was kind fun hearing that Nono's parents run a shop in the town of LxC2.

>>16973346

>most VNs should have a futa character for group dynamics.

Now you're speaking my language

>>16973346
>But group dynamics? The dynamics are between the protagonist and the heroines, everything else is parsley. If you need a genki character for group dynamics add a genki heroine. Having a penis only matters to group dynamics if the penis is going in something.
Yeah no see I violently disagree with this about as hard as it is possible to disagree with something.

There are group dynamics that you just cannot have with female characters. Since these are VNs and most likely romance or moege ones, the minute you introduce a character with a vagina the expectation is we're going to at least see that vagina if not get to get up in there. Even if she's a minor character with no route she'll either have an unrequited crush on the only penis in a 30km radius (the MC) or else gush effusively about how yasashii he is or whatever.

That crosses out about half the possible dynamics you can have with a person. You can't ask someone for advice about the inevitable relationship drama issues if their judgement is flawed by virtue of wishing they were riding your baloney pony instead. You can't hang out and just shoot the shit with someone if you know they have just as much an ulterior motive as you. It turns every single interaction in the game into a romantic one, and christ it's not like there's a shortage of those, especially common route bullshit where you need to survive a fucking onslaught of thirsty bitches in order to make it to the one girl you're actually aiming for.

See you might have a point that I'd happily acknowledge, if it weren't for the fact most vns are positively drowning in romance interactions. It is not a rarity, it's fucking ubiquitous. Exhausting, even. Common routes in particular I find are the worst for this since they feel the need to give all 3-6 girls at least a half dozen scenes each that are basically interviews for the job position of "MC's penis wrangler" before you finally get to tell the ones you're not interested in to take a cold shower and a hike. Give us a break. Give us someone the MC can talk to or consult about all this sudden attention to his genital area, who isn't themselves competing for it.

tl;dr boy-girl group dynamics absolutely cannot be imitated by just adding more girls, adding girls you can't fuck isn't fair for a moege, and there are much-needed roles to play that girls can't fill.

>>16965345
>Also hes clearly bending/squatting down and he's still over her standing height, he's pretty huge.
Picked up

>>16968604
Same for me, too bad the latter is nine of ten times a disproportionate mess because the artist doesn't know the first thing about anatomy and subtlety. That picture is a pretty fucking bad offender

I don't think I'm overly biased toward any particular body type, only if they're proportionate or not. Lolis are naturally proportionate, there's little to exaggerate about them; big titted girls are a coin toss

>>16973894
>Since these are VNs and most likely romance or moege ones, the minute you introduce a character with a vagina the expectation is we're going to at least see that vagina if not get to get up in there. Even if she's a minor character with no route she'll either have an unrequited crush on the only penis in a 30km radius (the MC) or else gush effusively about how yasashii he is or whatever.
This is patently untrue. As a random counterexample see the side girls in Fureraba, there's no romance between them and MC there at all, they add a lot to the group dynamic and the depth of the school setting and dialogue, and it works great.

>>16973958
You're going to have to remind me who even were the side girls in Fureraba because I've played and enjoyed it but do not even remotely remember them.

I do remember the weird-ass bro with his egg-laying fetishes, but no side girls.

Third world countryfag here.
Where can I download untranslated novels?

>>16974010
nyaa.se

>>16974022
but it is down
Also, what novel would you people recomend?

>>16974047
I read American Gods recently and it was pretty good.

>>16973976
There was this girl and a glasses girl. Also Momo wasn't weird at all, he's perfectly entitled to his fetishes. Although I was a bit disappointed he only abandoned 3D after getting turned down by some first crush, it makes it feel like he only turned to superior 2D because of the pain of rejection rather than because of how much better it is.

>>16974047
Sukasuka's a really good novel, you can download the first volume and try it yourself here magnet:?xt=urn:btih:adhudczqwnfxfehffb35pdaq675nveiw&dn=Shuumatsu%20Nani%20Shitemasu.rar&xl=118363033&fc=1

When do you think Sakura no Toki will come out?

>>16974081
Alright but if there's no romance between them at all, why not make them a male character? As long as they're cute and female, someone reading it is going to want some HCGs, route or no route, flirting or no flirting. And it does vary by novel, right now I'm reading Istoria and there's about a dozen characters, all female except for the one very clearly demarcated *big bad eveil guy*, and almost every single one of the other female characters has expressed some sort of
interest in the MC.

And yeah, I really do not remember either of them.

For reference of something where a mixed guy/girl group dynamic works really well, koiiro soramoyou is great in that respect. The common route is long as hell and I don't even mind because there are plenty of non-romantic interactions.

But (and I know it's not fair tacking this on to the end of this post because now you have to either respond or lose face) I'm not trying to convert or convince you, you've got your own opinion and I've got mine and honestly, neither of us are really going to influence the VN scene, let alone each other's mind. Just saw your comment and had to shit out a counterpoint.

>>16974115
>why not make them a male character?
Honestly, I'd pass on dudes if given the choice. Anything a male best friend can do a tomboy lesbian best friend can do better. If a VN isn't trying to have a real plot, only maintaining the shell of one as a framing device for cute girls and romance, then why have a recurring character who's completely the opposite of what your audience wants? It's like putting a rascist chinese charicature in your generic romance movie. Nobody you could reasonably expect to be in your audience wants to see that.
I don't have anything against dudes. I watch reverse harem anime, I read shoujo manga, I even read otome VNs. (Normally because the lead girl looks cute, but yeah.) I have no problem with men in VNs with actual plots, or in comedy VNs, or in anything at besides vanilla nukige and moege. I'm just tired of starting up a moege, reading it for an hour, and not seeing a heroine.
Men can be fine as long as they're kept out of the way, popping up only when needed and given as few art assets as possible. The way they are normally used in moege is anything but that. They swagger around, taking up screenspace and crying about how the protagonist gets laid more than them. Why should a story about how great love is have a major character love has abandoned? It's a thematic own goal. The only thing possibly worse than that is when a heroine falls in love with them, which does happen and is as cucky and disgusting as you'd expect.
The only good thing about male characters in moege is that they make the rare reverse trap heroine possible, and they are lovely.

>>16974126
>Anything a male best friend can do a tomboy lesbian best friend can do better
Why? How? You say this like it's a fact of nature but I don't follow. Is it because she has tits and is nice to look at? Then in that case, like I said, a good chunk of the audience is going to want to fuck her, lesbian or no lesbian.

Why do you assume the audience wants nothing to do with dudes? I know they're not vns, but look at the Persona games, widely recognized as high school simulators. Yeah people will fight to the death over best waifus, but people also really liked the male characters, Junpei, Akihiko, Yosuke, Kenji, (haven't played 5 so I'll leave it there). They offer relationship dynamics that are not available to the girl characters. If we're talking escapism, you get the respect of your friends as well as getting the girl of your dreams. How is this bad or the opposite of what the audience wants?

>The way they are normally used in moege is anything but that. They swagger around, taking up screenspace and crying about how the protagonist gets laid more than them
I honestly have no idea what eroge you're playing because it can't be the same as the ones I am. Yeah you'll have the typical Sunohara bitch boy whining about how the protagonist has a dozen girls in his harem and he has none, but he's *right*. From an objective perspective, it's fucking ridiculous. He has every right to make that complaint. And as for "swaggering around," the only times I've read something where a bro character swaggers around it's because he's an idiot who doesn't realize how unwanted he is, and it's played for comedy.

>Why should a story about how great love is have a major character love has abandoned?
Then give them their own girl! If you're alright with female characters that don't crush on the MC, let them crush on this guy! If they're not a heroine, then what's the problem? Then you get to have some nice scenes where the two of you can help each other out with relationship problems. Like dokodonuts, which had a really good bro character with his own established girlfriend, and it added a lot of really nice moments where you get to sit and talk about what it's like being in love.

>>16974126
>Anything a male best friend can do a tomboy lesbian best friend can do better.
Anything but that, they are either really annoying or turn out better than the heroines but unfuckable.

>>16974197
Lad I was pulling your leg >>16966253

>>16974233
joke's on you, you've been arguing with a drunk man this whole time

alright well that's good to hear, whether it's true or not. you got me pretty good, so I guess enjoy that feeling while it lasts.

Out of all the retarded unrealistic situations. I can't deal with the fact that these heroines are virgins. Especially genki, athletic girls, those girls are always real sluts. My suspension of disbelief goes out the window when I see blood during the first scene.

>>16971511
Patches for what?

Anyone know where to download the Oretsuba fandisc, now that Nyaa is dead?

>>16974615
http://kissanime.ru/

>>16974197
>Then give them their own girl!
Can't agree with this more. Especially if the bro and his girlfriend helps the MC in their own way, or the other way around where MC and the heroine that he chooses teams up to hook up a bro with someone else.

>>16974442
>Especially genki, athletic girls, those girls are always real sluts
No they aren't. They are most likely virgin due to being focused on whatever they do right now like sports and not actively fucking around, especially if they have a goal to become a professional athlete and thinking having a serious relationship will weaken her resolve. Can't disagree with the hymen though, even if they're virgin, an active girl that do lots of sports most likely breaks her hymen during one of her exercises even if she never having intercourse

>>16974615
Here.

>>16974442
I don't think them being virgins is that surprising to begin with. It's just that when the MC meets and then fucks them within the span of some weeks that it gets unbelievable. At least show that time passes inbetween some scenes so that it ends up being like 6 months or more for VNs where it actually applies.

>>16974890
>teams up to hook up a bro with someone else.
How heartwarming.

>>16974453
New Lovely x Cation had an engine change and it crashes apparently.

>>16973346
>If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them.
Try not being extremely fucking autistic, would be one.

>>16974104
Scaji said he wants to get it out this year. So either late this year or beginning of 2018 is my guess.

>>16974255
I loved this posture of hers

>>16975146
I liked this one from Kiss

>>16973894
This is a really, really good post

What's the cutest, funniest imouto fucking VN with as little heavy drama as possible? I just need to relax while I joke around with an imouto and occasionally get footjobs or put it in her butt or make her pregnant.

>>16975221
https://vndb.org/v13260

>>16975230
>A bunch of not-imouto sluts going after oniichan
Yuck.

>>16975247
it's more about imouto whoring out oniichan

>>16975230
iirc the imouto is locked until you complete every other route though.

>>16975253
https://vndb.org/v10238
This one seems to be more like what I'm looking for. I'm cool with other girls there as options, but I don't want an MC who's character is based on going after another girl. Any imouto SoL games where the imouto is the only girl? Or maybe something where every girl is an imouto, neesan, aunt or mom. That would be swell.

>>16975258
>Or maybe something where every girl is an imouto, neesan, aunt or mom
https://vndb.org/v3272
https://vndb.org/v10793
https://vndb.org/v15344
take your pick

>>16975272
Thanks, that's pretty much exactly what I was asking for. Went ahead and downloaded all 3.

>>16975272
>https://vndb.org/v10793

Oh the painful memories. But I suppose when it comes to "all sister heroines" you shouldn't genuinely expect anything good anyway.

>>16975435
What was wrong with it?

Recommend me a VN with actually good writing.

>>16975497
FSN :*)

>>16975497
霞外籠逗留記

>>16975497
Huniepop.

>>16975497
ＳＥＸでアヘり過ぎて不細工顔な女の子達　～んホおォッはひはひィっはほォぁあッ、んぁひあひぃあひいいッ、ウホァッンいングゥぅぅうウゥゥーーーッ！！～

>>16975442

For me everything. Plot, atmosphere, the characters.. nothing worked for me.

>>16975615
Oh, that just sounds like a preference thing as opposed to some well known horrible part in the game or slew of bad endings or something.

Played ニュートンと林檎の樹.

It's weirdly serious in some parts with ominous music etc. The girls are cuties though, that's the most important point.

>>16975747
are you a time traveler?

>>16975767
The trial.

>>16975747
From what I heard the trial is pretty boring and didn't really improve from their last title. Gonna pass. Laplacian needs to hire a new scenario writer

>>16975772
The writing is dry, that's true.

Is Irotoridori really that boring and exist solely for Shinku?

>>16976065
Yes.

>>16976065
Pretty much, and Shinkus part isn't even that good compared to other VNs. It's only good compared to Favorites usual standards.

I'm looking for 色に出でにけり わが恋は, but all the anime sharing links are from 2013 or thereabouts. What are some other good sources? Unfortunately, I've been wholly dependent on the late nyaa and anime sharing to get my eroge fix

>>16976496
And yet I instantly found perfectly good Depositfiles links on A-S.

>>16976496
Río and the maid were so cute.

>>16976502
>perfectly good
>Depositfiles

>>16976519
No waits between files.
No interruptions.
The speed isn't godawful.
No bandwidth limit.

>>16976519
Yes, among various filehosts used on A-S it's the best one for free downloading. I guess you NOCs (Nyaa Only Cripples) can't appreciate it.

How much does your eroge collection weigh? Mine is something like 500gb and I really tried to be picky (action-packed stories, games by famous writes, etc etc).

>>16976544
900GB+

I also tried being picky. Especially considering my external HDD is only 1TB.

>>16976544
I delete games I've already read. For unread games, 350GB atm.

>>16976502
honestly, I didn't even bother to check when I saw it was from 2012, I've never seen links more than 4 years old work before.

Can't you guys just suffer through those shitty hosts a bit? At least you know you will download the file eventually unlike with p2p and it's not like the speeds are so low it's going to take a month to finish.

Seriously, nyaa has spoiled some of you so much you act like helpless babies now that it's gone. I don't use torrents and I never had trouble finding games I wanted.

>>16976682
>I don't use torrents
I was gonna agree with your first part but it sounds like you're just an idiot virtue signaling.

I'm having a weird issue with キミトユメミシ where the text box just isn't showing up. It's there in the backlog but shit's just borked on the regular screen. Any ideas? Computer's already set to japan time and I tried the update.

>>16976544
Lost a hard drive with over 600GB's worth of ones I actually liked, saddest day of my life. I'm back up to 250ish now but most of it's shit I've dropped or stalled on but don't want to delete because what if. Or to revisit the porn.

>>16973894
Would you mind giving me a few examples of VNs "positively drowning in romance interactions"? I keep hearing about them but I've never read one, and I'd really like to.
If there are idiots in the world who can't accept that they can't fuck every single girl in every single book, let them be upset. If they won't read Cross Channel because Yusa doesn't have an H-scene, let them not read it. Their loss.

>>16974197
>>16974890
Read Chrono Clock. If you really honestly want to read a book about a side character being in a relationship, Chrono Clock is the most extreme example I've ever had the misfortune of running into.
I will never understand why you would want that, though. I mean, I thought I was most open-minded nutcase here for my willingness to reluctantly accept a heroine not being a virgin, but you guys blow me way out of the water. You are not only willing to accept, but actually want a girl in a VN who does not have a route with you but ends up fucking some other guy. You are against the idea of having a female character in a VN that doesn't have a route UNLESS some other dude fucks her. I'm sorry, I just don't get it.
Since you asked, I will try to explain: when you read a moege, you self-insert as the main character, right? You fall in love with the female characters, right? Some have routes, some don't. In both cases, you imagine yourself as their boyfriend. With the ones that have routes, you have CGs and text to help you, with the other girls you just have your imagination. At no point in this equation do the girls have any penis besides yours go inside them, because that is the opposite of you being their boyfriend. Exceptions exist, like moms, but that is the rule.
I'm glad there are books written for you, I think everyone should have books written for them. You can understand that I'm reasonably upset that I keep running into them.

>>16976847
Assuming that you've already tried restoring default settings and restarting the program, you could try windowed mode in various sizes to see if the VN has moved the text box into another field.

>>16976870
>when you read a moege, you self-insert as the main character, right? You fall in love with the female characters, right?

No. If that would actually happen, nobody would read more than one route. After all if you actually seriously care about a girl, why would you ever do another route then?

It's more complicated than that. And I don't care enough to try and discuss why the trend is going to "every pair of tits needs to have a route/ero with the protag".

>>16976870
>windowed mode
I do that by default because I compulsively tab out for various reasons, no dice. Guess I'll fuck around with the settings some more and see what happens.

>>16974098
Do you have a magnet link for all the volumes?

>>16975221
I really loved loverable the imouto was awesome, cute and funny.

>>16976999
Downloaded it hours ago. Might end up being the first one I dive into.

>>16975221
Magical Charming has a great blood-related imouto route.

>>16977163
NBR imoutos shouldn't even be a thing. More like "imoutos".

>>16977045
btw I just want to add this is probably one of my most favourite imoutos in all of eroge.
Her route is so cute and the game is pretty funny and adorable I like it more than fureraba although fureraba has better confessions.

I don't think this dev should attempt mystery. The first question and it already fucked up its logic. Hey the door was locked, so the maid of the one with the master key couldn't possibly have entered that room. Especially not to put a letter there written by her master who, again, has a master key. Why would she possibly be able to enter that room?!? The only way would've been by picking the lock, or entering by window, right?

I mean.. that's pretty sad. Especially because the author didn't even forget about this, he just considered it "not possible" for shallow reasons like "privacy" and whatnot, which makes about 0 sense in this situation. (It makes sense with normal everyday stuff, but not when the maid would get tasked to deliver a letter)


Ah well, Lump of Sugar. Not like I expected much.

R.U.R.U.R looks cool. Anyone here play it?

Just wanted to add to the conversation, with what somebody said earlier, persona does the guy relationships amazingly. To a point where I care for some of the guy's routes more than some of the girls as they're that well written or deal with more serious or more interesting issues.
Guy characters can be amazing.and well done rather than some comic relief character who is purposely written poorly to make the reader feel better about themselves, however that requires good writing and I don't think many writers can write interesting male supporting characters. Not to mention that many otaku just buy eroge for a short romance that lead to sex with a open ending.
I personally get more out of longer romances and prefer it that way sex doesn't bother me as much. However for eroge it's different.
I feel that we see eroge as porn as they give us sex scenes and with that we come under the impression that every girl must have a moment with the mc or have sex scene.
Like picture if you watched a porno and there were two hot girls and only one them got naked and fucked while the other didn't do anything.
You'd be kinda upset even if they advertised it as that one girl getting fucked and you watched it for that, you'd still feel kinda unfulfilled.
You'd want more than they advertised.
Same with eroge I want all the girls to be romanced even if they aren't romance-able, the fact a girl has a sprite makes me want to see her interacted sexually, romantically or in some way with the MC.
I guess its kinda like I view it as a medium that panders to my needs for romance/sex rather than see it as a writer's vision.
However that said the writer's vision is heavily influence by the company which in turn is influenced by the consumer's desire to fuck girls with underdeveloped short romance plots.
Eroge with unromancable girls are fine but when come into it I normally expect pandering to the upmost extreme, unless it has a decent story/writting it's a let down honestly.

tldr; Guy characters can be amazing if well written but that requires good writers or an interesting story.
I personally feel like a porno should have every women on camera having sex rather than having some that are not having sex. Eroge is pretty much seen as porn in a sense that we play them to romance and to fuck the girls.
Good writing is an exception but otherwise I want all girls romance-able.

>>16977422
>Eroge is pretty much seen as porn in a sense that we play them to romance and to fuck the girls.
Speak for yourself you pathetic loser. While you're at it also kindly hang yourself. People like you are the reason eroge has become stale.

>>16977432
My very next line read
>Good writing is an exception

Don't get me wrong I love eroge with actual story and effort put it, I wouldn't mind no sex or romance if it has a decent story but given how many have no proper story and shit romance just a flufffer for the sex. I at least want to treat to romance all the girls as that's the only thing left really.

>>16977422

Taking things too much for granted is killing enjoyment of what's offered. Overexposure.

What makes a heroine special if every female is fuckable anyway? If you want that, you should be going for nukige. But outside of nukige there SHOULD be different values as well.
Fact however is, that eroge trend heavily towards acting as if they are nukige, no matter what. It's not just more ero. 月影のシミュラクル has pretty much 2 filler heroines. They are there to offer more naked boobs, while having literally no other importance. Is that how it really should be? That game isn't even a moege, nor does it have much romance.


In eroge the ero became way too important I feel. Everything else is secondary. People who don't think ero is the most important thing about all eroge really get the short stick for a while now.

>>16977354
i haven't played it but it has one of the most annoying UI i've seen. it's also shota shit and can be a pain to crack

Is Amatsutsumi any good?

>>16977521
Hotaru route is yes.

>>16977432
Fuck you, the only reason to learn Japanese is to read eroge. It's a plus if it has good writing.

>>16977354
I remember putting it on the list because the synopsis sounded pretty neato but christ that text box, who thought this was a good idea.

Be a trailblazer, anon. Take one for the team and report back to us.

>>16977499
Moege treats all girls as prizes at a shooting game at a carnival except that sometimes some are just for show and not winnable.

Sometimes the shooting game is fun and I'll enjoy that and maybe might even just play for the game itself and not the prize, however what's the point if it's not fun and I played a shit game all for a prize I can't win.

If the story is shit I want the girls.
If the girls are shit I want the story.

>what makes you a heroine special if everygirl is fuckable
Do you only play single heroine eroge only then?
I mean what if I like a girl who's a side character who doesn't have a route?
Why introduce girls in a game where you romance girls, and make a girl that's unromancable.
It's teasing the user.
That said, that's if I'm playing the game for the girls and not the story.

>>16977605
>I mean what if I like a girl who's a side character who doesn't have a route?
Nothing? You like her and that's the end.

>>16977605
>what if I like a girl who's a side character who doesn't have a route
sit there consumed with lust and despair for the rest of the evening like the rest of us
;_;

>>16977609
Or you can hope for a fandisk/sequel.

>>16977609
That's the prolem and it upsets a lot of people.
Either introduce the character as romancable, don't have them at all, or don't market it as a moege.

>>16977605

I understand what you a playing for: To get into the girls' pants. But you seem to forget that there's more to enjoy about girls. It doesn't need to end with something lewd. Not even in a moege.

If you want to understand this view, watch some anime again. One of the many cute girls doing cute things shows. No, don't go to sadpanda. Just watch these shows. Until you understand.


I can understand where you are coming from. It's essentially the fault of VNs themselves because they make people think like that with the current trend. If you don't look critically at them, and just play a good amount without for example balancing this with other games, anime or whatever, you can get into that mindset. You aren't the only one there either. Sometimes when you look at EGS and whatnot, the first importance is to "conquer" girls. It's not about the girls, their story or anything, it's about "conquering" them. A messy situation, especially as conquering them isn't even remotely hard anymore.

>>16977694
It upsets autists, no one else. Reasonable people know that sex is not a given and you can enjoy the company in itself.

>>16977710
It's weird especially because now we have the whole conquering thing without any of the effort. At least with dating sims there was some sort of progress, or journey to be had. But with a lot of modern games focused on "romance" the girls are heads-over-heels with the MC from the beginning, even the supposedly cold ones. You get all the rewards without any of the work, which describes the average young person's mindset today. It's kind of why I can't get into a lot of those "romance" games, a lot of the girls seem like they would spread their legs for anyone. They don't really bond or connect with MC. It's just boring and completely sterile of any meaningful or entertaining interactions, aside from the sex (which even that is debatable at times).

>>16977710
>>16977762
Agreed on the 攻略'ing. I wish everyone new to eroge, or at least everyone in these threads, played Doukyuusei 2 instead of picking up another random forgettable monthly release. It really makes you feel the thrill of actually going after girls unlike anything released nowadays

Thanks for this ALL-AGES masterpiece. EROGE IN 20TH CENTURY THANK YOU AMERICANS.

>>16975504
Where do i get it? Anime-sharing links are all dead.

Ｃｕｔｅ　ｉｍｏｕｔｏ．

>>16977847
No they aren't.

>>16977864
But they are.

>>16977854
This has good art but I won't be fooled into playing it.

>>16977710
>>16977733
I never said it had to be sex I said romance-able, just make then romance-able and I'm happy or just a route for them.
Sex honestly wears out after the first time to be honest.
It seems more like a romance progression point.

Like puraima wars had a route for the side girls but there was no sex they ended up confessing and kissing, I liked that more than sex would have been. It was so adorable.
Especially since it was sudden and a mistake.

>>16977800
> It really makes you feel the thrill of actually going after girls

That wouldn't be too necessary, if there'd be more girls without routes. It the same thing really. Anything that's not a given becomes more special.
Thus the idea of higher difficulties in games.
Thus shipping of characters in ongoing series.
Thus the whole waifu wars if it's one of those series.
Thus rooting for your favorite characters in dire situations.


Without any trouble, it can quickly become stale and flat. And when it comes to heroines in VNs, that "trouble" is not being able to get into the pants of any girl you want. That in itself makes it more special if you actually can do so with all girls you care about. This is why VN devs got the great idea to just make it possibly to get into all pants, as such their game will stand out more easily. Unfortunately if everyone does that, it becomes the standard, which is where we are pretty much at this point, killing the advantage that once gave. By the way, the average heroine became easier to "conquer" for the similar reasons. So, what now?

>>16977906
>but I won't be fooled into playing it

I'll give you a thousand yen.

Why do you like generic moege?
Are you really that basic?

>>16978078
what's wrong with being basic?
are you autistic?

>>16978137
what's wrong with being autistic?
are you a bigot?

>>16976906
I might do but this really isn't the thread for that, ask in the /a/ or LN thread.

>>16978078
Theres nothing wrong with generic moege. Even something with a basic premise can still be enjoyable if its done properly.

>>16961977
What game is this?

>>16977854
>white hair
No

Anyone check out the demo for eushully's new game? Ive never sat down and went through any of their games but フィア is such a cutie I might check it out.

>>16978601
Who's this qt?

>>16978601
I hope you're not implying Hoshizora e Kakaru Hashi was a moege done properly

>>16979094
Madoka from 星空へ架かる橋

I need a good bakage in my life. Something dumb and fun with outlandish bullshit that doesn't take itself seriously and ideally doesn't try to drag drama into it later. Was that new Clochette any decent? Something like sakigake would hit the spot real good.

>>16979246
>Was that new Clochette any decent?
It was okay, but not really what you're looking for I'd say.

>>16979341
Damn, thanks though.

Can anyone translate this error message? Trying out a partial patch for this VN.

>>16979532
.exe isn't found.

>>16977180
You can't spell BR without "heavy drama".

>>16978601
Best girl, best route. Ive got to go through the fandisc for this sometime.

>>16979637
That depends entirely on the game.
I swear I've read at least one game where the parents were siblings too and perfectly okay with it.

>>16979746
is it Ikikoi

iizuki tasuku is perhaps my favorite artist

I wait for the day he does illustrations for a good game

>>16979921
No, EOP pal, broaden your horizons.

>>16980107
I'll wait for the day he learns how to draw something that doesn't put you sleep just by looking at it.

I've had damekoi on my computer for a while and I'm thinking about playing it but I'm not sure what to expect. Is it like a moege or is it pretty serious?

>>16981072
The last route split is full drama, but otherwise is a romcom, my favourite at that because I love the maisson ikkoku feel.

what do you guys think of dameko types of girls?
I find them adorable.

>>16979921
Why do people like this game?
I got it with the promise of ichaicha from the blurb but every single girl is a dick to you.
I mean I know Scaji isn't great at romance and just his writing and characters make up for it but come on.
Ikkikoi is terrible.

>>16981137
it was just the first example that came to mind, I never even bothered with Tane or Ryou

>>16981137
It's realistic, since you're a gross stinking weeb and girls would rather choose to die than flirt with you. Now shut up and take those degrading footjobs.

What happens in fureraba if you fuck around until the end date and don't go for a particular girl?

>>16981252
Bros end. MMO all day everyday.

>>16979746

Oh there are tons of games like that. One game worse than the next.

Blood related or not actually doesn't matter when it comes to good sister heroines and stories. It's what the author makes out of it. Pic related. Not blood related and yet a better sister character than way too many blood related ones. Also yandere. Which is actually somewhat reasonable for a sister to become if you think about it.

>>16981369
I love the hair what's the name?

>>16981416

It's an rpg, and you probably shouldn't play it just for that. But: Izumo 4.

Okay, after reading all the male character discussions at earlier posts, give me 1 VN as the most exemplar example where male support character given the treatment that you want or close to it, without any heavy drama or Nakige-grade plot twist bullshit, because often times I only find male support characters on those kind of VN.

>>16981462
Tsuyokiss?
Barring Kani's route, they stay great and drama-freen, even then I like Subaru's subplot in it.

jp give me a good reason i shouldnt buy white album 2 on my vita for 1k yen

is it worth that much?

>>16981462
bansenjin, it's not a moege though

>>16981470
it worth it

>>16981470
Because you can't texthook it and thus can't read it?

Of course I don't want to accuse you of anything, but this could be a good reason if it's applicable.

>>16981470
Why would you pay for a porn game with no porn?

>>16981470
>jp give me a good reason i shouldnt buy white album 2
Muh melodrama

>>16981462
恋ではなく ―― It’s not love，but so where near.

>>16981483
i usually read vns on consoles where i cant hook so its ok

>>16981490
thats the main reason my dude, i dont like porn in my porn games

alright then, for all the rave i hear about it, it should be worth 1000 yellow bux

>>16981506
lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QkTS_AaMiI
>this is 8 years old
The prime of エロゲー will never return will it...

>>16981802

I like how the preview picture of the video has THAT font. You know, pic related. Japan really likes it.

>>16981506
I actually have that in my hard disk during my hoarding days, but I relent installing it when I find out after reading somewhere that instead of fulfilling my expectation of MC and the main heroine having time of their life together along with the lovey-dovey stuff inbetween, I have to endure 3 routes of relationship drama between the MC and the main heroine and they not getting together in the end until the unlockable true route.
You recommending it gives me another reason to try it, and I would after I finish my current VN, but tell me this: Are the relationship drama in those routes before the true route really that painful to read? Just preparing myself mentally before reading through it.

>>16981853
It's realistic. If you read for escapism it's probably not a good idea, but it is a very well written game.

>>16981853
>uses WinRAR and Daemon Tools

As better alternatives I heartily recommend 7-Zip and WinCDEmu.

>>16981856
>realistic

I.. wouldn't use that word. I mean, I have never met a person who told me he traveled several times back in time to get with the girl he likes.

It's just a (melo)drama-thick VN. You like that or don't. Personally I think these stories work better if you see something crashing and burning once, and then recovering past that, rather than having different routes of crashing and then a "successful" route enforced last. It's just cheap if you ask me. You don't have to bother thinking about how to fix things.


Of course I've not read it, so I might be wrong, but that's what I feel when I hear "multiple failure routes and then one successful route with one heroine only".

One thing I don't like is when VNs too frequently switch perspectives from the MC to show things from other characters' point of view. It's a fine narrative technique in other mediums but VNs are meant to be self-inserted and experienced from the point of view of the protagonist, it ruins immersion when you do this so often. I remember getting annoyed at Senmomo for this too.

>>16981462
Definitely BokuNatsu.

>>16981900
>Of course I've not read it
Perhaps you should reserve your ridiculous judgments of games you have no idea about then.

>>16981462
I don't like pointing to a single example like this cause you know, it just takes a single disagreement for the point to be weakened infinitely.
That said, Shuuji from Akeiro hits close to the ideal for me. He really makes the game straight-up better for me by adding a lot of humor the dialogue a girl likely wouldn't have, as well as been a nice bro. Pretty much the only problem with him is that they make him very cowardly as an excuse to get him away from the main plot (which involves ghosts n stuff). In other words, from a comedy/SOL standpoint I remember him as a very solid and valuable male character, but from a plot standpoint he could use a lot of work.

>>16981919
>self insert
I hate this meme

>>16981919
>this qt doesn't have a route
why

>>16982003
Qts needing sex scenes yet not having them is definetly an issue.

>>16982003
Look at the way she's looking towards the MC too, you can tell she's into him. Probably she's had a constant crush on him the whole time, but never managed to work up the courage to approach him, thinking he's way out of her league since he's always around super popular and pretty girls like Mibu-senpai. So she's content with just walking past him in the corridor and looking at his handsome face all the time, which is why she's in the background so often.

>>16981919
Nigga, what the fuck are you doing self-inserting into Leyline's protagonist?

>>16981919

And here I am searching for VNs like that, as it heavily builds characters.
Pretty much all my favorite characters have scenes from their pov in some way. That's no coincidence. It HEAVILY builds characters. Pic related is a great example.

>>16982247
Play Symphonic Rain if you haven't already.

>>16982247
That's it. Today I'm going to finally download and start this game for the sofa hairpin girl.

>>16981928

Ridiculous? What was ridiculous there? It's a fact that it has several failure routes first and then a success route enforced last. So my point pretty much stands there and it's reasonable to assume as well. And is the reason why I'm not going to read it.

>>16982233
What's wrong with Micchi? He's great, his interactions with Shizuka-chan and Mooko are the best. Maybe he's a little reckless or thoughtless at times, but that's just part of his charm and a symbol of his strong desire to protect his family and friends. Great MC

>>16982293
>Micchi, Shizuka-chan and Mooko
man, Leyline is everyone gets a cute nickname: the game

>>16982293
Yeah exactly my point, he's not really a blank slate and I don't agree with the sentiment of VNs being "meant be self-inserted into", unless we're talking about certain dating sims and moege with actual nameable board protagonists. I don't really get the point of trying to self-insert into established characters with pronounced personalities nor do I see a change in PoV as a negative narrative technique.

It's funny that she should talk about this just after I've finished Silverio.

>>16974077
shit taste.
ocean at the end of the lane was decent.

>>16981919
>VNs are meant to be self-inserted and experienced from the point of view of the protagonist
just self-insert into the current viewpoint character then. What, is that too much of a mental strain for you?

>>16981919
I dislike it for completely different reasons, in that it makes things explicit that are often better left implied, or it'll cut away to the villain explaining his grand evil plan, or some other giant tension-killing spoiler. Like christ, I know these aren't usually highbrow literature but you can at least leave SOME things to the imagination. It's not really foreshadowing if you give us a scene of the bad guy saying "I go now to do all bad things," that's just straight up spoonfeeding with a shovel.

>>16982519
You mean you dislike bad writing, not POV swaps.

>>16982247
Momiji lives off death flags. Every fucking line out of her for half the game is death flags. She raises so many it warps back around and makes her invincible.

>>16981802
>The only non-kusoge released after 2011 is Sakura no Uta
eroge is dead..... its over guys.....

>>16982525
Well yes but in my experience the two often go hand in hand. I prefer not having knowledge the protagonist doesn't, dramatic irony doesn't lend itself well to vns since you have some control over the plot but not enough in the right places, so knowing he's about to do the dumb thing or that heroine C is about to sacrifice herself to do the dumb thing, it doesn't make me feel tension or apprehension or whatever the desired feeling is, just an inescapable sense of 'oh christ you idiots' like watching a bad horror movie where they keep saying "let's split up to cover more ground!".

I was searching around for a VN and I found this collection of 5200 Japanese books as .txt files. It addition to a metric shit ton of light novels, regular fiction, and hilariously poorly translated works of the western canon it also has transcripts of a few popular VNs, like Cross Channel, Tsuyokiss, F/SN and Higurashi . Perfect for getting that VN fix on the go. Unless the person looking over your shoulder can also read Japanese, no one will be able to tell what you're reading. It even has three novels by ZUN!

Here's the page, which has a list of the first thousand books:
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3463221

And here's just the magnet:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2090806305BE5CA073076BCDA7422BB04B27C2B2&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbt.t-ru.org%2Fann%3Fmagnet&dn=%5B%D1%8F%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9%5D%20Approx.%205200%20Japanese%20Books%20%2F%20%D0%9E%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%205200%20%D0%BA%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B3%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D1%8F%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%20%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%B5%20%5B1900-2000%2C%20TXT%2C%20JPN%5D

>>16982550
No.

>>16982527

That's a pretty early one I think, yeah. I don't have nearly enough screens of her, but maybe I'll change that if I ever get around to the sequel.

>>16982598
There's a sequel? I kinda tuned out the announcements for the series after the 5th remake or so. I'll probably only be interested if there's more Safety Pin though, there were some cool fights but there was also some really awful parts. Not sure if it can hold my interest without her.

>>16982620
what's with the safety pin?

>>16982647
it's code for "I want it in the butt (with protection)"

>>16982647
She engages in deadly battles, she needs any safety she can get

>>16982647
The source of her powers. Her focus crystal, or magic wand if you will.

nah i'm just messing with you, she's basically a touhou: silly hats and beam spam.

>>16982620

I found the main-story to be pretty consistent. But everything that got added in the later re-release was bullshit. Well, aside of the little "final" part which teases the sequel. But that part was actually added before the final version already, so there's that.

I haven't played it myself. I do like the walkthrough though:
http://seiya-saiga.com/game/galge/vita/kadenz.html
It's on pc by now as well.. for a while already actually. I just got too turned off by the additional content of the original that I ended up so not sure if I want this. I'm hoping and assuming that stuff wasn't written by the original author, as it's way too different from the original stuff, but you never know.

So, I read Hatsukoi ＊ Syndrome (main-part) this afternoon-ish. It was pretty alright, but nothing else.

The idea here is that the first love failed and something else starts, with random magic crap added so you have at least some kind of bullshit drama at random points.
Unfortunately the first love obviously didn't fail because the relationship didn't work out, or because the girl in question didn't like the protagonist or anything interesting, so in the end that point ended up moot and you get yourself a kinetic novel about a love-triangle where the less interesting girl wins. Of course.

The engine is also pretty meh. No way to skip effects with a click, no way for forced ctrl skip and the initial setting were pretty ass as well. (i.e. sound balance)
There's still the after-story I haven't read, but I'd assume that's mostly ero. Then again, for the supposedly 4 scenes you probably don't need all those 15 CG + 3 SD CG, and some variations of older ones are also missing, so I guess I'll still check it out later.

>>16982726
I mean for the most part it was solid if chunni as fuck (but who am I kidding, that's what I came for), I just could not get attached to most of the main characters except coolguy Reiji and Momiji. Protagonist #2 and his girl were forgettable and unfun, and I wasn't a fan of Sakura and by god that end reveal about her did absolutely nothing to improve it.

I'm torn, since the rerelease bonus scenario Momiji route was kind of not great, a silly Heaven's Feel knockoff complete with possessed Saber, but I so badly wanted more Momiji in my life that I liked it better than the original ending, which had a really awful penultimate bit with that blue haired slutty ex of Reiji's and some really, really dumb plot reveals.

But at least the final fight was everything I hoped for.

Yeah I dunno if I want to go back into that mess after typing all this out. I'll just keep looking for more girls like her.

jesus old me went a little autismo with this game

>>16982789
I'm sad that you always have girls beating up MC and calling him a masochist and stuff, but there are no actual femdom routes, like the MC and heroine having an actual BDSM relationship. I'd really take that over girls who are just abusive bitches like in Ikikoi.

>>16982855

Hard femdom are in isolated girls, for a reason. I actually read some Ikikoi and tried one femdom VN at some point, and it's.. heavy. I like my "strong" girls and I suppose light femdom, but I'm out when all I hear is "buta" and the ero includes hot wax and butt penetration.. of the dude. (Sole exception is pic related, but that was more of a "you fucked up son" scene where the girl showed the protagonist what happens if he's too much of a sissy I guess, it wasn't supposed to be arousing.. I think.)

So yeah, I think it's fine that more "normal" VNs keep the femdom on a bit more generally acceptable level. This screen in the previous post is btw. just a joke. Like most of these lines tend to be actually. That girl is a pretty average moe-blob without much special characteristics.

>>16982855
Try Kanojo-tachi no Ryuugi and Mugen Kairou. Very well balanced plot/porn mix for people into femdom.

>>16983033
I'm not really so much for the "buta" thing or wax thing. More like just wanting to please the girl and make her happy and slowly the heroine realizes the MC's nature and introduces him to more harsh forms of play. Not just the girl treating the MC like garbage, or using it as punishment. You know, it should be like an actual relationship but with femdom.

Eroge always has a tendency to do these sorts of things without much subtlety though, I mean just look at most "choukyou" games just have the girls break from the beginning. If they can't even get those right I can't imagine them to get femdom right. I will just keep dreaming.

>>16983047
Thanks I'll try those, especially Kanojo-tachi no Ryuugi. It's been in my backlog for a while. Shame it's always shota or trap MCs though. It's kind of boring if MC is pretty much a girl with a dick, but I'll take what I can get.

>>16983128
For me the guy being forced to crossdress is a form of humiliation and adds to the femdon aspect. The nice thing is that they're usually also voiced too. I think it's better than some masculine hairy dude getting stepped upon, but different strokes.

>>16982855
>>16983128
You're beta as fuck.

>>16983206
How does an alpha such as yourself think about these things?

>>16983174
I see, that is another way of looking at things. Although in my opinion, the smaller and frailer the guy is, the less humiliating it is. Think about it this way: a guy who is pretty much looks like a female would be pretty much an easy target, correct? To me, being taller and much stronger than the girl, but choosing to submit anyway is more exciting. Also it's easier for me to self-insert into standard MC ikemen or manly masculine dude than some shota or trap. Cross-dressing could still be part of the equation, but it'd be even more humiliating that way.

>>16983206
Wanting to serve a cute pure 2D girl and show her your devotion sure is beta as fuck. Being able to submit and show her your vulnerable sides as well as loving each other completely and entirely is definitely beta as fuck. Having to maintain the facade of being the alpha male in a relationship and lying to each other constantly is truly the apex of a relationship. Let's be real here. Most eroge MCs are what you call "beta" as fuck, no real drive to do anything, they just have the girls push them around in every aspect except sex. It counts more how you act outside of the bedroom than inside I believe.

>>16981802
Really makes you want to play some good old UT2004.

>>16981932
>Fear of Death
>Mystery
>Horror
Serious VN tends to have treat male support character better even when they brushed off when the main plot starts, which is why I asked for examples in VN without heavy drama or plot twist, to show which moege that you feel 'done it right' to the main support character despite, well, being moege that currently only focus on the heroines and less about friends, or at least VN that has moege feel without heavy plots that discard the moege status from the VN itself, or twists that brings the VN to Nakige territory instead.

>>16983561
It's 95% comedy and the friend is only there for the comedy/SOL more or less.

>>16981462
Like the guy at the start of the thread said, Leyline series has a good cadre of likeable male support characters. The new Utawarerumono games also have tons of SoL bro-up scenes with the protagonist and other males partying and getting wasted together. Both do have drama, but not to the point that the male characters exist solely for it.

If looking for completely moege, Girls Be Ambitious!'s saving grace was the protagonist's group of friends. There's one tomboy childhood friend girl and a total of four males when including the protagonist, and their treatment was definitely leaning more on "dependable bros" rather than "stupid retard butt monkeys of every joke" that heroine focused eroge usually have, and they stay relevant throughout the game.

Finished Nanoha's good ending (I think?), and in general I liked it as a whole, but I think I preferred Rain's route more. I'm a bit confused about Kurihara going insane and the reason he killed Nanoha's parents, seriously, I feel that came completely out of left field and the reason for why the world went back to normal in the end but i guess those questions will be answered later

btw the Sora situation in Baldr Sky gives me a lot of Muv-Luv vibes since it feels somewhat similar to Sumika

>>16983206
>posting in a thread about eroge in a board about otaku culture in a site for nerds
>calling others "beta"

>>16984269
Fapping to anime girl novels alone at night is alpha not beta

>>16984351
Only hooligans fap with their dicks. I fap with my mind to sophisticated chuunige.

>>16984257

I'm pretty sure the second spoiler is already explained. Sort of. I mean not really, but it's said what that.. entity.. does. And that exactly is what happened. How that's possible nobody knows though.
The first one definitely was though. He literally says why. And tries to make excuses and such. They wanted to play it save as Assembler is a raaather dangerous thing, so they didn't want to continue the research like that.. or something similar. But for him Assembler is literally everything, so he panicked. He's not the most sane person, though that being only revealed with typical insane faces near the end of that route is typical Baldr Sky BS. The villain writing could really be better.

Could be wrong about this, but I've only read those 2 routes myself in the past, so at least it's no spoiler for more than that for sure.

>>16984257
baldr sky is just mla ripoff with boring repetitive gameplay

>>16984448
What the fuck.
If you finished Baldr Sky, you'd know why Kurihara acted the way he did.

>>16984448
Yeah, I did understand that explanation for why he killed Nanoha's parents, but I was hoping that there would be more detail to it. The fact that this major detail was just shoved right at the end kind of left me wanting more. To be honest, I was kind of expecting Kurihara to be some sort of villain from the moment the character was introduced in the beginning, since it's a pretty common trope that the former teacher becomes the villain.

>>16984448
There's late game spoiler explanation (Dive 2 Aki route) if you aren't planning on finishing the games and want to know. As far as I remember at least, the professor's brain chip is infected by a virus and the Gregory you see in the game is actually him acting wrong. The professor's attachment to Assembler is real and he really wants to use it for greater good, but the virus fucks him up and makes him take very extreme measures.

>>16984478
By that margin Muramasa is also MLA rip-off. The only thing they got in common is having mechas, and even they are done differently.

>>16984511
He literally said he only played the first two routes.

>>16981490
The consoles versions of WA2 are actually better btw.
The replacement sex scenes are great.

Name a vn with actually good pacing.

>>16984787
Hanachirasu

>>16984787
C;C and CC

>>16984787
C;C and C+C

Damn 4chan ate up the cross symbol

>>16984787
ふたなりエルフ快楽調教 「だめっ でるううぅっ これ以上出したくないいいぃぃ」

>>16984813
C+C is pretty repetitive tho.

>>16984813
C;C has awful pacing. Unless you enjoyed having to skip through the game to read those 4 bad heroine routes in-between the common route and true route. And even in the main story there were plenty of overly drawn out and boring sequences, usually when they're trying to instill a sense of horror by making everything slow-paced and over-described.

>>16984925
>>16984849
Well here is proof no matter how good your pacing is people will always disagree. Really pacing just means "number of parts I liked" and people like different things.

>>16984965
At the point where you have 5? different writers working on a game the pacing is probably gonna be a bit awkward no matter what.

>>16985021
Not necessarily. In fact, multiple writers can make the pacing better even, by consulting each other and whatnot. In some companies the writers sit in the same room, talk to each other constantly etc. whereas in others they write their parts in isolation. Obviously the latter doesn't produce the most splendid of results but then again a single writer scenario isn't necessarily exempt from pacing issues either. August is pretty good at making the different writers seamless, Chaos;Child (Over Sky) and the Utawarerumonos are good examples as well. Of course there is even more failures of this, but I think it's more a result of incompetent people rather than the concept itself.

What's a good VN to read while learning nip to help with my vocabulary?

>>16985308
霞外籠逗留記 is a good choice.

>>16984531
>By that margin Muramasa is also MLA rip-off.
but it doesn't have transport to another world like bs or mla

>>16984787
carnival, rakuen, satsukoi

Losing my nerves with this shit, i've downloaded this vn for the forth time and still new random errors, i can't save or load the game, i constantly get this shitty error, what do?

>>16985390
have you played nanairo

>>16985395
I haven't.

>>16985390
I'm no computer expert but maybe you need to run with admin rights

>>16985412
then why are you trying to run the sequel

>>16985415
Tried that already but it doesn't help, i think it has to do with some corrupted files in save directory.
>>16985422
Because this one looks more interesting.

>>16985439
well, good luck. i'm not gonna tell you the fix so you can be an idiot and wreck your experience for no reason

>>16985478
fuck off

>>16985491
That guy is obnoxious but he has a point, it's a direct sequel to Nanairo and a lot of cool scenes will just be ?? without having read it.
Also they both are pretty similar in style of story so they're both about equally interesting.

Yah, these threads have definitely declined in quality the last 3-4 years. Time to move on I guess, I blame djt.

>>16985660
Don't forget to write.

So apparently subarashiki is being translated.
Wasn't is supposed to be untranslatable?
Or are they doing something like dies irae?
I mean I haven't played it but tried Sakura no Uta and well some bits might be pretty hard to translate or the writer's vision of might be lost, but then again I don't know too much about translating.

Thoughts?

>>16985784
Translation is done, it's just not being sold yet.
It's all a matter of how much you rewrite.
Not sure what you mean by this.
Yeah, stuff is lost. That's why it's better to read the original.

>>16985797
I meant dies iran had to be rewritten and took out a lot of things, for its localisation.

>>16985835
*irae

What's better Sakura No Uta or subahibi?

I assumed Subahibi but hear the other is great and took way longer to write.

Where can get psvita vpks?
I wanna try CC.

>>16985881
>took way longer to write
this is not necessarily proof of quality.
examples: Duke Nukem, Guns 'N Roses

To >>16960131: I would certainly appreciate such a guide. I had to download something from Baidu like five years ago but since then have mostly only used nyaa and easily-accessible stuff like rutracker and A-S. Lately I have been wanting to get into more obscure stuff though. So your tutorial on Clubbox was greatly appreciated, and if you covered the other bases as well (chinese sites, PD, Share, ???) then I'm sure a lot of people would find it useful.

>>16965295
Junjiro in Aku no Onna 1 was my bro.

>>16984787
phantom

>>16985784
Be happy you get something, English-reading pal.

>>16981879
this

>Eve burst error hacking scene

>>16986893
I'm not an EOP

If it's a meme to call everybody here who talks about Western stuff that, never mind.

>>16987101
Meme? What are you yapping about?

You talk about English releases -> you're unfortunately EOP'd. This seems like a rather reasonable conclusion. Why would you care about English releases otherwise?

Even the content of your post reveals your unfamiliarity with Japanese eroge and its perceptions
>Wasn't Subahibi supposed to be untranslatable?
This is said about Dies irae.

>>16985784
>>16985881
Why do you write like you're some underage kid from a 3rd world country?

>>16985317
Dead links.

>>16987459
Look better.

>>16987534
Stop lying faggot.

Rui is an excellent twist on the standard, generic steward character.

>>16987871
I really enjoyed their banter too. Overall the comedy in the the series was pretty spot on, but Rui was far and away the best in that regard.

>>16987459
>>16987785
It has baidu links and you can use clubbox if everything else fails

It's been on my mind for a while but I don't know what's up with 'some' of you people in this general. That somehow, with the understanding of the Japanese language, you feel that it increases your worth as a human being and also apparently can double as an insult.

It's honestly pretty sad.
I mean your insult is apparently saying somebody speaks English, though you might spice up your insults a bit and tell somebody to fuck of plebbit or /vg/. Still at least that's progress.

I mean really, how the fuck is calling somebody a monolingual an insult?
People on other websites and boards actually have proper insults, like nigger or faggot.
You know, actual insults?
But calling somebody Monolingual?
I mean I know some of you lead a pretty solitary life, but this is downright pathetic.

And since I feel your autism tendencies urge you to do so, feel free to call me an EOP, because apparently simply talking about localisation, or almost anything not in japan means that I was born in an English speaking country and I don't know Japanese, Arabic, Chinese and English because apparently you know so much about me and everybody else, including the fucking language a person uses to understand basic human speech patterns.

Seriously fuck everybody who does this, it adds nothing to the conversation.

>>16988816
Just leave. Not a single person wants you and your low quality posts here.

>>16988816

The thing is, threads have topics. They are about a certain something. And this one is:

>This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.
>What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

Some people react harshly because of heavy derailment and ultimately arguments and stupidness that gets caused by it. Every week there is a "translation status" thread on /jp/. It's a nice thread to talk about translations, as people there are looking into that thread because of translations. There's also a thread for learning the language on/jp/. If that's what you want or talk about (i.e. "easy" to read VNs) that's where you go.

And still people come here every now and then for reasons nobody really knows. 4chan isn't the nicest place. You may get told off in a not so nice manner. But usually there's a reason for that.

>>16988816
Go to a psychiatrist for your fragile easily saddened heart, then stop by /djt/ for Japanese lessons. You're not gonna change this place, and giving us your demands a week after finding the thread will only antagonize people - either accept it as it is or fuck off.

This is not real. I refuse to believe this is real. I must be dreaming right now.

>>16989737
Have you been under a rock for the last few years of the NTR/slut boom?

Looking down on people who can't read Japanese was originally Moogy and his clique of elitist friends kinda thing. I'm pretty sure they developed that attitude as a defense mechanism because people generally judge translated VNs unfavorably so it's easy to just say "the translation sucks go learn Japanese or shut up because you're not qualified to judge VNs otherwise". Now he seems to have toned this down because the quality of translations has improved but this kind of attitude seems to have stuck with those learned-Japanese-to-read-eroge Twitter folks who are still young and too excited over the fact they can read Japanese.

>>16989985
Has the quality of translations actually improved? I haven't read anything translated since 2012, I've only re-read a couple of VN's i read translations of previously and I found the quality to be 'not bad' I guess.
As in I really don't think I could've done a better job myself, even now. I've seen translations ridiculed here a fair bit in my time. I feel a little sorry for the translators though, it really doesn't seem like it would be easy to do well in many cases.

>>16990064

Depends on how long ago. Shit still exists, shit always existed. But on average it probably improved.

>>16989737
I imagine the people that actually played the Kyuusei games don't actually play that DMM kusoge because they killed themselves long ago, and the people that are voting are only exposed to revisionist history Tamaki.

Is 雨恋 just a nukige?

does Secret Game Rebellions require you to play any of the other games?

Can someone explain to me the reason why Mahiru is the 2nd least popular girl in sukisuki? I tried to ask in /vn/ but I just got memed. Is her route bad or is she a bad char, or japs just have shit taste? she is supercute, I don't get it. pls don't spoil me too much

>>16982789
I think Ayumu Sara is becoming one of my favorite eroge sieyuu of all time. Half of Luna's cuteness was from her voice. I enjoyed the trial but I don't think I'll spend time on the full release, though I really liked the heroine.

>>16990428
Use vndb and find out?

>>16990715

Don't know where you got that from, but I wouldn't care too much about polls. I somewhat remember that Patricia of Noraneko got a pretty bad poll-result at some point, which is pretty hilarious.

Generally speaking, look at polls that reflect your opinion, call the other ones rigged and move on.

A new patch for Lovely cation got released, I wonder if it fixed the whole voice playback thing.

>>16990715
The key to understanding this is that they're voting for their favourite, not their least favourite.
That means, you know, 5 out of 6 doesn't mean most people didn't like her, it means they just had other girls as their favourite. In other words, everyone who voted may have thought of Mahiru as #2, just not as #1. Which isn't so bad.

>>16990841
Should we introduce preferential voting to make these polls more democratic?