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Random is not cheating it just turns one string of unreadable chords to another string of unreadable chords help

2P is cheating.

>>16928186

SP is cheating.

>>16928182
get good

What layout do people recommend for LR2 keyboard? I'm doing lshift sdf space jkl at the moment but really starting to hate using the space bar

>>16928204
Well you can just push the buttons up one and switch spacebar with some other key that's one below.

Also it's recommended that you bind a scratch button to your other hand as well because when there starts appearing a shit ton of scratches, it will be very difficult to do them on just one scr button. So you should learn to alternate scratch.

>>16928204
you could just approximate iidx and go zectbum or whatever

>>16928280

i went zectbum on ur mom lol

>>16928193

SP is 90% of the game.

No one really cares about DP, the charts are legit impossible to do well on.

>>16928467
My mentality has been that if I'm going to use two hands to play the keys, why not just play DP. Alas, I suck at the game so my opinion is worthless.

I haven't done a lot of research on the Sinobuz dojo thing. Is there any benefit to selecting grades which are lower than the one you earn on the song? You get a AAA and there's some AA keys on the choice - so are those better choices? Does the difficulty ranking of the song make a difference? Or is it better to AAA a 3* instead of AA a 9*?

Oh hey DDR isn't dead

>>16928280
Meme configs like that aren't really that good, feel shitty to play on.

Instead if you are switching to controller you could put keys in similiar spots like, instead of pressing 4 with your thumb, put it to right index and stuff.

If you are going to play mostly kb it's better to just use a normal kb layout though. IIDX style layouts feel awkward because keyboard buttons are so tiny.

Listening to the music is cheating.

Museca confirmed desperate

To the keyboard players, I'm really struggling to do trills with myleft ring and middle fingers, would it be advisable to switch to using my pinky instead? I have no clue how long I'd have to play to get it up to par (and un-learn doing stairs with my ring), but thinking it might be worth it if I switch over to a controller.

Just landed a job so I consider buying one for summer, speaking of that; what's the recommended DAO controller/switches?

>>16930867
>left ring and pinky
I'm assuming this is on 2P side keys 1/2? Pinky/middle rolls tend to be much easier for me.

>>16930881
On keyboard, so D and F (or F and Z for pinky)
I was recommended by an anon in the previous thread to start using both thumbs, now I'm thinking I might swap out the ring fingers as well since I'm having to learn new keys anyway and have been struggling with ring/middle patterns like these for as long as I've been playing:
https://youtu.be/eFDZQOM8A6Q?t=34s
Not me playing in that video btw.

>>16930867
>what's the recommended DAO controller/switches?
FP7/FPS depending on budget. All you really need is 25/50g Omron switches. 10g would probably be much too light without custom springs.
Sanwas are most likely a waste of money unless you play at an arcade as well.

Are there any important song packs and/or scales for lr2 that aren't included in the 50gb mega torrent?
I can't seem to find some of my favourite songs like 3y3s and Almagest, not sure if that's because the titles are in moonrunes or if they are simply not included in the torrent pack.

>>16931593
lol

bms.bemaniso.ws

>>16931605
Oooh it's all here, thanks a lot anon!

>>16931618

Why are you always in bed? get out of bed you dumb smug.

OVERKILL

>>16930260
>Games getting actual content monthly is desperation
Listen, I'm as pissed at DDR's lack of actual content as you are, but that's no reason to take it out on other Bemani titles.

I'm just confused.
Are these the springs everyone's talking about?
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/sanwadenshi/item/ilumb_300/

>>16932399

Yes

source: i bought them like 2 weeks ago along with new buttons and switches

how does this shit work in museca? Is there anything special I have to do or will Flower be in the song selection screen tomorrow? I'm trying to play the song in every game at Round1, only missing museca and I can't find the song in popn

>>16932509
fucking hell its right there in english are you retarded

how the fuck are you supposed to read taiko i'm iidx 10th dan but i can barely do 7s on hard

>>16933464
it just takes a lot of practice, i think. i can read things that seemed crazy when i started, but speed modifiers and high end oni songs are still beyond me. my real problem is getting gud physically, i got too used to playing the handheld games and i blow ass at playing with a tatacon.

>>16933553
>i got too used to playing the handheld games and i blow ass at playing with a tatacon.
Is it really harder to play with a drum? I've only played the handheld games, and I feel like my thumbs are holding me back more than my ability to read the charts.

This song is in one of the 3DS games. How the fuck are you supposed to tap your thumbs this fast?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpc0gxeqINU&t=96

>>16933608
If it's hard doing it with your hands then how hard is it with your whole arm ?

>>16933621
Your wrists are much faster than the muscles in your hands. Try shaking your hands and wiggling your thumb and see which is faster.

>>16933608
i really don't know. the other problem with 3DS is that the 3DS screen kinda sucks and there's a lot of blur on really fast songs.
right now i'm dicking around in 3DS1 but i was also having a lot of fun in must songs ao-ban before the game stopped saving without telling me and nuked a week of progress. the vita is really comfortable to play taiko on.
i could also go play some of the PS2 games since my PS2 is already plugged in, but i should really just plug in my wii and practice on tatacon more.

>>16928175
are the miku games too easy

>>16933646
you know that you can shake your wrists instead of your thumbs when you're pushing buttons on a controller ?

>>16933608
you're supposed to roll your knuckles to hit the note, not the thumbtips.

>>16933659
Not the last one, or edit plays

>>16933669
u wot

>>16933666
Not without holding it steady with the other hand. You play Taiko with both hands.

>>16933669
That could work, I suppose. I know there are people who play IIDX with gamepads, so I realize nothing is impossible.

desu it's gonna be a pain in the dick to buy a new tatacon for the switch, i just want to keep using my hori tatacon.

>>16933649
>ミセナイナミダハ、きっといつか
>this song is so slow it drains my soul
>turn on baisoku
>becomes tolerable

what do you guys play at home? I just had surgery and won't be able to go to the arcade for a few months, and I main jubeat, sdvx and maimai. I don't like playing LR2, kshoot, and definitely iidx on a keyboard lol. Can't afford a controller as of now

>>16935410
Stepmania on kb is okay. Just don't get RSI.

Or get a(nother) job and buy a controller or something.

I play kshoot and LR2 with my self-built controllers, but I guess that isn't an option for you as they're somewhat expensive too.

>>16935410
suck dicks and steal lawnmowers until you can buy a iidx asc

keyboard sm sucks ass

alternatively if you own an older home console you can probably get a ddr pad plus a few ddr releases for cheap

>>16935545
>>16935573
>just had surgery
lol, won't be able to do any of those other than kb sm, by the time I can I'd probably be back at work. But thanks for the suggestions

give me some fun DDR songs

>>16935962
which mix are you playing

how good are you

>>16935962

monkey punk

>>16935962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTV92wqYjfA

>>16935985
im going to round1 to play DDRA

i can play around level 12 or 13

>>16931643
no

>>16936002
my summer love
cant stop fallin in love speed mix
hillbilly shoes (no joke, it's a fantastic chart)
neko*neko challenge (it's an easy 14 i promise)
wow wow venus
top the charts (expert, the shock arrow chart sucks ass)
must be unlocked on extra stage:
illegal function call (difficult)
パ→ピ→プ→Yeah!
ビビットストリーム
爆ななてすとロイヤー
(these three moonrune songs are all in the BisCo event folder)

>>16936048
but the sync is awful on hillbilly shoes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kIlw5VP6xU

>>16936007
get out of bed, smug

>>16937081

hamburger helper are you okay

>>16937398
get out of bed, smug

I would totally kill for a racing rythm game where you have to drift in rythm with the eurobeat for maximum points.

>>16935410

bro get yourself that djdao jubeat controller

museca asc when

>tfw Beyond the Earth is the only Pendual 11 I can't clear

Fuck this fucking song.

museca is pretty fun once you get use to the upside down controller layout. it's also got the best feeling buttons desu

>>16938004
I didn't realize how fun it was until I realized that you don't have to bash the discs like the popn guy

>>16938004

i would play it more but playing it fucks up my timing because the windows are so huge so i avoid it for that reason. its definitely good though. i feel like the foot pedal could be a bit better placed or easier to actuate though.

Rare footage of angry guy in his youth

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LoC9KUVtI

>>16937867
>beyond the earth
>pendual

enjoy getting cucked by a 12 year old chart

>>16937819
Never tm

>>16939339
>12 year old chart

This explains a lot.

scrub here

how the hell do I get anywhere in keyboard-based games?
even on 4K (Stepmania, FFR) my fingers just get "confused" on difficult charts and I can no longer progress

>>16940233
Play more

>>16940243
how many hours did you sink into your first game before you got gud?

>>16940305

I'll be sure to let you know.

>>16940328
that doesn't really motivate me

you're probably really good, but too humble about it

i passed max300 uwu

>>16940305
If you truly are new to rhythm games expect to play for a couple hundred hours before difficult sections start to click in your head and hand eye coordination.

>>16937819
>>16940088

Actually it's Soon™

>>16940348
No.
No one's good. Except DOLCE, but he's a god of rhythm descended to mock us.
The reason you should play these games is because it's fun, not to get good.

>>16941106
>No one's good
kill yourself please this is the dumbest attitude in this entire scene

>>16941142
Eat a dick.
Someone clearing 5s in IIDX seems good to a player just starting. Someone clearing 7s and 8s seems good to the player that clears 5s. That person looks up to people clearing 9s and 10s, and those people to people clearing 11s and 12s. And everyone would probably agree that they're not good yet, or at least not good enough. There's really no certain point when you can say that you're good. I mean, everyone who's played over 1 hr is good to laymen, but there's an enormous hill to conquer after that.

If you dislike the attitude, why not go to your local circlejerk and jerk your buddies off on how good you're at sucking dick? Me, I'll be getting better at rhythm games.

>>16941212
there's a difference between being good, and being finished improving/perfect/the best. pro athletes or anyone who's really good at anything, they never stop training and practicing and improving, but they're still good. even someone who is the biggest fish in a small pond is still good, they just have much more to learn.

>>16941223
But that's not the point. The point is how it feels, and at least for me it doesn't feel like I'm good yet.
To be fair, I probably should have said in my first post that "Everyone but me is good" or something similar, but oh well.

>>16941142
>>16941212
Back when I was an osu pleb at one point I just went "this is good enough" and willingly stagnated myself
I was clearing 6 star charts at that point

it was a lot of fun, which is why I never went further
but yeah, I completely stopped progressing and just sat at the same spot for years until I quit

>>16941142
>>16941106

In all fairness, I could set a definition of "good" that even DOLCE. can't come near.

The skill ceiling on this game is so retardedly high it might as well be infinite.

On an objective level, if you can clear kaiden you can call yourself good at the game, no ifs ands or buts. At least that's that goal I set.

>>16936048
>Top The Charts

>>16936002
A lot of these are 12s or 13s. A handful are 14s and 15s. They may or may not be fun to you but they're apparently what I've played the most.

Sound Voltex is best.

>>16941836
sound voltex is a shit game

>>16941844
You're a shit game

>>16941836
I would like SDVX more if I didn't spend half the time "playing" looking at loading screens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuTWeZP76wA

Friendly reminder that you can now manage SDVX rivals and change IIDX event phases in Arcana with some API fuckery.
sows/wiki.php?action=article&id=76

what does 573 mean

>>16942464

It's a meme Japanese play on words they love so much.

Go (五)　Na, from Nana　（七）　Mi from Mittsu　（三）
Go Na Mi
Konami

Memes.

>>16942515
bretty gud : DD
gonami xD

>>16942531

why did i laugh so much at this

>>16941212

this is why it's impossible to find friends to talk to about iidx and rhythm games, because not only do they have to play them they have to be at around your same level too

is there a guide or translation to museca's mission modes?

Why can't I do 12s? I can do like 300 11s but only 2 fucking 12s.

I hate this dumb fucking game.

>>16942802
Go do some lifts at your local gym. Clearing 12s is basically a test of endurance and strength compared to 11s.

>>16942738

you mean when you're unlocking graphica? you just have to use an opposite colored graphica for each section of the song when on the selection screen and you will be able to clear & unlock with a good enough score

>tfw still getting cucked by Colorful Cookie

how do i improve accuracy?
im getting FCs on level 11 songs in DDR but i get so many greats

>>16945671
Play easier stuff and work your way up.

>>16942802

i hope to god it's not like this for everyone
i'm at like 60 11 clears, just kill me now

>>16946367
Depends on how fast you are at improving

Does anyone have the spada sound set for LR2? I can't seem to find it

Over the top sports anime about the extremely competitive and sometimes life threatening underground world of high stakes Bemani tournaments when?

>Buy soft pad for sm on ebay about 1 month ago after not playing DDR for about 6
>start playing on light
>Quickly progress to level 5-6 songs after about a week of 1 hour/day.
>After 4 weeks I can now play most level 8-11 songs with no problem but this soft pad sucks for higher difficulties.

I feel like I can't get anymore gud with this shit controller. Should I mod it or just not spend the money and save up for a metal pad?

>>16947453

if they still make cobalt flux get one of those. i had one a decade ago & it was well worth the money, had a great feel that even the arcade can't compare to.

Is playing without sound cheating?

>struggle on several songs
>dozens of failed attempts on each
>receiver goes 'out'
>can suddenly clear them

I feel like this is definitely cheating. Being offsync is part of the challenge of IIDX, right?

>>16947586

depends if you're playing more by the music or the visual

Narcis!ck at oasis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwWgt7FZ9S8

>>16947279
The FP wasn't good enough for you?

>>16948211

No. It has to be anime and it has to feature cute girls. Like Arcade Gamer Fubuki, but good. 2 cour at least.

Are the guitar freak games cracked? Which one is the best?

What are those three stars that started showing up on the results screen

>>16950316
Three favorites folders.

how do i quick retry?

>>16951249
http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/2dx/24/p/room/premium.html

somebody give me reasons why SDVX is trash other than the shitty sight reading need to enlighten some folks

>>16952680
timing windows are so lenient that nothing is really worth replaying after you PFC it

>>16952831

Only autists care about PUCs and shit. If you play for fun and are happy with ~950s scores it's a fun game. It's not a fun game if you grind endlessly for perfection.

does anyone here play infinitas or know how the mission system works?
do i have to select what i'm doing before i'll get any bits

>>16953200

nevermind i think i figured it out
you can only select the repeat missions, which are on a 24hr timer

New Jubeat

Why aren't guitar freaks and drummania more popular?

Given almost everyone has a bunch of plastic instruments laying around from the GH days, I don't get it.

>>16952680
Not keysounded.

No, I don't care if you think the game works fine or better otherwise. It's not keysounded, so it feels like pointless busywork to me. The song sounds the same whether I do anything or not, so I'll choose to not play it then.

>>16953621
2D note scroll. Too difficult. No familiar music.

>>16953758
To wit, with it not being keysounded, I can get just as similar of a sensation by pounding my PC keyboard in rhythm to a song as I watch it on Youtube.

>>16953778
>>16953758

I can promise you you are a very very marginal minority that so vehemently demands keysounds that they refuse to play anything without them. That gives you like, less than a dozen games ever to actually enjoy.
I get enjoying keysounds or finding them neat and preferring them, but for it to be a non-negotiable demand to even play the game, and that pounding your keyboard randomly to Youtube videos is comparable is quite frankly insane.
I personally find SDVX makes me feel a lot more a part of the music than any other Bemani game.
I honestly can't even tell when I'm playing a non-keysounded game in Pop'n. It's still just as much fun as every other song to me.
If it existed, I would rather play 8K Stepmania with a Beatmania skin and auto generated charts than IIDX. Notes in sync to the music is far more important to me than feeling like I'm actually making the song.

>>16954487
>iidx isn't synced

can this meme end lmfao either you are a shitter or you havent found the right offset yet

Anyone know where I can get the old USB driver for IIDX?

My numpad won't work without it, and I can't remember where I found it last time.

>>16953504
https://twitter.com/jubeat_staff/status/859316590369619968

red = france
blue =
purple = germany
green = thailand/hawaii

>>16955627
not here, retard

ask where you got your game

>>16955785
Sorry, I'm not enough of a faggot to use sows.

>>16954487
>Notes in sync to the music is far more important to me than feeling like I'm actually making the song.


have you tried not being absolute shit at timing

>>16955793
then learn to code it yourself, bucko

>>16955811

I'm probably better at timing that you are. AAAs are trivial for me to achieve. It's simply a game of mentally compensating for the shit off sync gameplay. And it has to be off sync by definition because of muh keysounds.
Considering the lag between when you're hitting the keys and when the sound is being played, and the obnoxious frame based timing, which makes all but the most specific of BPM songs even harder to time, IIDX is so severely flawed, it can hardly even be called a rhythm game anymore.

Meanwhile, in Stepmania, you hit the keys when you expect the note in the song. No lag, no mental compensations. Straightforward like a rhythm game should be. Getting AAAs or even AAAAs, even on Judge 6 or 7, which makes IIDX's windows look looser than the oldest whore in Vegas, is simple.

>>16955657
Blue looks like USA, a couple of the buildings look like the Willis Tower and WTC

>>16955887
Suck my fucking dick, dude.

The worst shit is when I actually found this crap again, but of course, it was up on Psun, so all the links to the magical "libacio_8.dll" are long gone from the publicly available side of the internet.

Sows is cancer, as are all you cucks that support it.

>>16956352
get fucked bemanigirl

>>16956400
You're clearly developmentally challenged, keep on defending the only private tracker autistic enough to invite you.

>>16956352
>>16956416
>literally too much of a child to follow some simple and lenient rules and be polite to people
>calling others autistic

really makes you think
really gets the neurons firing

>>16955930
>unironically preferring stepmania over iidx
>being too stupid to learn how to time in iidx
>believing that iidx is off sync when it has an offset feature

i don't think you could have made a worse post if you tried. i don't want to see you try though.

>>16955930

tell us more about how stepmania is a better game than 2dx

>>16956553

Nice try buddy. Your precious keysounds are a gimmick and nothing but. IIDX would be better off without them.

>>16956572
>likes stepmania and sdvx, but not iidx

you tried iidx once and got btfo because you can't read more than 4 lanes at the same time, so you complain about it on mongolian basketweaving messageboards

>>16956621

I love IIDX though. Doesn't mean I can't have gripes.

>>16956553
>>believing that iidx is off sync when it has an offset feature
IIDX is my favorite game but you're an idiot if you think the visual offset feature does anything to mitigate the audio latency that comes with keysounded games.

people are so fucking autistic in these threads lol
honestly I'm ashamed to be a part of this community and every time I look through these threads I can feel my detest for rhythm games as a whole grow deeper just because people on the internet are cancer

>>16957023
>people are so fucking autistic in these threads lol
>honestly I'm ashamed to be a part of this community

if you didnt want to hang with autists you should have gotten into itg instead, dumbass

What place has the worst bemani community and why is it socal.

>>16955995
The mosaic looking building reminds me of this one in Bangkok.

Can anyone explain to me why Osu! beatmaps are apparently bad?

>>16957371

Because they're made by spergs with mental deficiencies.

>>16957409
this is why i cant take you guys seriously

>>16957371
Because the type of people that play osu are the type of people that ONLY play osu.
Because of this you end up with a charting circlejerk which is further enforced by the BATs. Because the BATs arbitrarily decide what are "good patterns" or "a good chart" people end up sticking to the charting meta rather than branching out and trying experimental shit.
Because of this charting is pretty stagnant in osumania especially in comparison to games like Stepmania, BMS and beatmania; where people push the boundaries of their charting and are free to experiment.
With these games, there are no arbitrators aside from the communities as a whole. The actual community decides what's good, not some NEET in a basement.

site acting weird for anybody else

>>16957745
Yep sorry, We're working on it.

Yay I did okay

>>16957774
:bigtoot:

>>16957692

Angry anon, NO!

>>16959036
>Angry
oh, bless your heart

>>16955930

nah i'm pretty sure ur just shit at iidx buddy

i passed max300

am i good now

i beat 2 hyper 8s and a light 8 today on iidx, C and a B grade! I know this is like beginner level but it feels good to make progress, I was starting at hyper 5s/light 6s at the beginning of this year for reference.

>>16959281

try shelter of the mind, and you'll be able to have a 9 under your belt

>>16959268
After you pass Over the Period.

>>16955793
So you got your game there but you haven't used it??????
Are you a magician?

>>16950404
I thought we couldn't save favorites yet?

>>16959508
Why the hell would I go to sows when all the data is publicly available?

Literally all they have a monopoly on is discussion, and I'm not autistic enough to sign up for the sake of a single 4 year old dll that might not even work on Copula.

As it is, I'm just going to buy a numpad from China instead, none of you faggots have enough basic decency to share a single meaningless file because you're terrified of either it being linked back to you so you get banned, or that Konami is just waiting for someone to post anything more than a screenshot so they can raid DJhackers and end arcade piracy forever.

>>16959708

I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish. Bemanigirl has literally everything you need to get going. If all this shit is publicly available how is this an issue? What game exactly are you trying to run?

>>16960023
I happen to be one of the people who has an incompatible keyboard, an issue that multiple versions of bemanitools have completely ignored. The + key on my numpad doesn't work for IIDX, neither does the backspace key if I enable the top row.

The insistence on mapping a HID device is pure cancer, it's stunning that all they've done is go "lol works for me :)" and ignored the issue.

I can plug in another keyboard and it works fine, and a few years back I had the same issue with Tricoro that was solved with a dll swap, but that dll is long gone.

I can play everything no problem, but if I want score saving I have to buy a numpad.

>>16960045
Why don't you just go drink a gallon of bleach.

So your case is that you happen to use the software other people have created over the years. It doesn't work on your system.

The solution that you come to is go and call these people names because this issue, which you haven't reported cause "you're not autistic enough" to talk to them on the community where they are, and after that when no one figuratively sucks you off and develops a solution (that might take fucking tens to hundreds of hours of work if we don't have that fucking file you talk of), you continue to berate the people to which you complained about this problem of yours. And then you say that they don't have the basic DECENCY to help you.

Is there anything, fucking ANYTHING, in your behaviour that might make other people likely to help you? Hmm? You fucking think about that?

Your behaviour is literally on the level of a child. I didn't really care before, but after your posts I hope from the bottom of my heart that bxg and all the other public sources go down, if for nothing else than to keep cancer like you out.

Literally, unironically go kill yourself.

>>16960189
Why are you sperging out about something you know nothing about?

The issue was already well known 5 years ago, and the file I'm asking for has been floating around since then.

It'd take any of you cunts 2 seconds to search it up on sows and post the fix, but you're clearly far too busy to bother. If this was some major issue then I might approach the situation with a little more decorum, but it's a fucking tiny one with a 3 dollar fix when none of you have the braincells to use a search function, or the balls to risk being banned by some autistic admin who is probably watching the forums right now like a hawk to ensure that nobody leaks anything to an "outsider".

I hope your little circlejerk club dies one night, and then you all run around screaming like headless chicken for weeks because you're incapable of doing anything by yourselves, and require constant spoonfeeding. Centralizing everything on a single point of failure is the stupidest fucking idea ever.

>>16960236
Thank you for proving my post so beatifully, I couldn't have done it better myself.

>>16959281
gj proud of you but please stop calling them hyper 8s and normal 8s and another 8s etc. they're just 8s the scale is universal

unless you really need to tell someone about a particular chart and you also aren't sure they know what its rated its just annoying, then sure you could say like

>3y3s spn 7
>3y3s [n] 7
>3y3s normal 7
>3y3s light7 (light7 is the old name for the normal game mode, with old hyper being 7keys. another was still another)

>>16960045
>an issue that multiple versions of bemanitools have completely ignored

>fuck you you autistic secret club faggot

>but hey code me some free software pls :))

>thanks for the software now fucking kill yourself faggot

buy a mirror and stare at it for at least 24 hours

>>16960302

I disagree. I find that there's a half step between difficulties and their ratings.

An Another 8 would be close to an 8.5 on Hyper, and 9.0 on Normal.

>>16960333
you're literally just wrong

there are smaller ranges of difficulty within each number (7, 8, etc is when it gets to be noticeable) but it has nothing to do with which "difficulty" setting it's under. older songs also tend to be slightly misrated compared to modern standards.

http://statistik.benhgreen.com/ratings?difficulty=7

sort by NC rating, descending. there are bullshit hard normal 7s just like there are bullshit hard hyper 7s and another 7s. they're still all just 7s.

>>16957453
>Because of this charting is pretty stagnant in osumania

Not him but as someone who plays charts around 3~4* I don't feel this. What a "experimental chart" would be like?

>>16960364

Just what I've gathered from my subjective perception. Another charts just seem to be harder on a technical level than Hyper or Normal charts of the same level.

>>16960398
most known exemple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EymTUAyjj8&list=RD7EymTUAyjj8

if you're unironically in the support of the bug known as "bad chaining" remaining a part of beatmania iidx, i sincerely hope you and everyone you love dies a painful death

>>16960839
Explain.

>>16960850
say there are 8 consecutive scratch notes at a steady rhythm. you miss the first, and hit the pgreat window on the next 7. they'll all be counted as bads and you will get no points + lose life.

>>16960855
you means that the timing window between notes can overlapse ?
If so, then you didn't miss the first, but the first one is counted as bad

>>16960855
So it counts the notes as them being one note late every time?
So the first note would be on the 2nd pgreat, 2nd on 3rd pgreat etc?
If so, that's bullshit. IMO keypresses should always map to the nearest one and you should miss those notes that don't have any keypresses near their windows.

>>16960866
>>16960867
just try it yourself. play a song that has a section full of steady turntable notes like red. sph, fuck up the first note of a stream of scratches, and then watch as you are literally unable to hit the rest of the notes no matter how well you time.

>>16960855
is this why im so bad at scratching

>>16959268
As long as you keep practicing, you might be good one day.

So I recently just started getting to 9s in Jubeat (Prop) at my local arcade and have always used the default prop marker. Should I practice with a faster marker? Does it help any of you guys to use a faster or slower marker for higher level songs?

>>16961734
a lot of people seem to like that electrical/vortex marker. Personally I use the pink grid one because it's the fastest one i've found.

>>16961905
I see a lot of the flower too, but I'll have to mess around with some I guess.

>>16957692
first your sdvx controller and now this

>>16960855
>>16960866
>>16960867
>>16960877
>>16960880
That is not how it works. You are awarded the best judgement possible for any given input, whether it happens to be early or late. If you miss the first note of scratches/jacks, you can hit the following notes just fine. If you hit only the 8th notes of set of 16th scratches, you will alternate between getting PGREAT and POOR.

When you gets BADs, it's because you hit one too many notes, and so you're getting all early BADs. You can never chain late BADs.

>>16962423
There is also the case of falling behind and then trying to catch up. Again, it's early BADs.

>>16962423
>>16962435
Your getting BADs because your... BAD

>>16962468
haha lol upboated

>>16959625

the three colored stars are there and songs will go into your favorites folder during that session but they aren't saved when you relog

>>16962468

i always wondered why they use so many english words in these games, i mean it makes it a lot easier to play for me but for a japan only game it seems weird

When does a score go from a AAA+ to a MAX- score?

>>16963161

When you're over halfway there.

>>16960769
I know "it's old so it doesn't count", but compare The Earth Light H14 to its A14.

>>16964429

To hell with it being old. Doubles is its own sort of beast.

>>16964522
>>16964429

Also, I actually just looked that up. You're comparing a 10 chart to a 7 chart. The Another chart being easier is nothing new.

I'm specifically talking about Normal/Hyper/Another charts that hare the same difficulty.

Any anon with a homemade IIDX controller? how did you make your turntable + turntable base?
I use a rotary encoder in the center but I don't know what to use for the TT itself.

>>16964690
use a real vinyl record

>>16964690
Rotary encoder vs an acrylic sheet.

Threw it on a laser cutter, cut out a D shaft for the center and a circle for the rest, then put skateboard grip tape on top.

It falls off the encoder when I turn the controller upside down but other than that I guess it kind of works okay for a ghettocon.

>>16964710
This seems good. That EMP thing is expensive.
What's the thickness of the acrylic sheet by the way?

>>16964751
mine is 1/8", no idea what the actual one is

>>16964753
Thanks for the info.

I'm making my way to round 1 tomorrow, are there any new "easiest 12s" in sinobuz that I should watch out for?

>>16964690
Here's my take on it:
https://github.com/Lipastomies/BMS-ASC
The explanation is still very much wip, but it should give you a pretty good idea on how I did it. Also contains plans.

>>16929452
Enjoying the game is cheating honestly

>>16965221

You can rest easy there. There's not a soul on earth who enjoys this nightmare game.

>>16964690
>>16965219
This page specifically:
https://github.com/Lipastomies/BMS-ASC/wiki/Building:-The-Turntable-Assembly

>>16965187

Steel Edge is easy, but you have to have unlocked it in the previous unlock event.

>>16964710
This is basically what I did, but instead of using a laser cutter like a crazy man, I just bought a ~10cm disc and used a drill with the same thickness as my rotary encoder. Then I just superglued a little piece of flat plastic over the edge of the hole to make a perfect D shape. Then I glued wax paper to both the bottom of the disc, and the top of the controller

The issue with this is that I was slightly off on my measurement so it's a little wonky, but you can't actually tell during play. It's also not super SMOOTH.


If I was doing it all again, honestly, I'd buy a DJ hero controller, maybe take out the buttons and flatten down that side of the controller, and then just use that. It's a very smooth disk with a nice surface already, the only issue is that it's a little oversized, but you can pick one up for 10 bucks.

What are your favorite GrooveCoaster 3 tracks?

t. Me in the corner

>>16965339
Not that anon but thank you for this. I don't have nearby access to a laser cutter so this'll do.

I was actually thinking of an optical mouse and a CD at first haha.

>>16965352
halcyon, this is hdm

can someone explain how random is cheating

>>16967970
It isn't.

>>16967970
i failed mei hyper nonran, then i turned on ran and passed.

its cheating

it makes the game harder and is a total fucking useless meme most of the time. s-ran exists to make low level charts fun or easier to time

>>16965236
My idea wasn't that far from this.
I'm going to need to figure out how to make those angles though.
Excellent guide.

i dont like any of the songs in popn

>>16968053
A router is what I used to bevel the MDF. You could also file it OR mount it to a lathe if you have access to one, or if you have a powerdrill use that as a poorfag lathe.

>>16968053
This is so much work when you can just put a disc on top of an encoder and call it a day.

Who the hell has all those tools just lying around?

>>16968055

contemporary nation 3 / echoes
naniwako boogie
ryusei rave
hydro core

>>16968055
sorry but popn has at least like, 30 good songs

>>16968107
Universities, some libraries, hackerspaces, private corporations....
I personally used the tools that were at my local library.

The difference between a disc on top of an encoder and that solution is mostly
1)
the height of the platter, here it's pretty much 21mm higher than the keys so it's arcade accurate
2)
It's prettier and I kinda had decided I would go all out with this controller, so that's why the over-engineering.

>>16968055
but みずうみの記憶 is fire

>>16960333
i'm late but just wanted to say

this is the dumbest thing i've seen on here in forever and you're wrong. just, completely fucking wrong.

>>16969847

Again. Fuck off. Another patterns are simply harder on the same difficulty rating. It's not that dumb an assertion.

>>16968055
sorry you have no taste

>>16969856

I understand what you're trying to say here, another charts are usually harder than hyper charts on the same difficulty level.

Although I think when you progress more you'll see why people call 8s just 8s

I fucking hate 100% minimoo-G with a god damn passion. It has cucked me probably 50 times now.

No one on earth could possibly clear it 10 times in a row.

Anyone got the official lyrics for #MAGICVLGIRL_TRVP_BEVTZ

how am i suppose to see anything when the combo counter blocks all the notes

>>16971817
which game

>>16971817

you're looking at the wrong part of the screen

>>16972031
iidx and ddr

>>16972150
iidx: you can change the judge font on the e-amuse site

ddr: you can put combo behind the arrows on the e-amuse site

but really you're just blind or looking in the wrong place to read

>>16972150

In IIDX at least you can move it up or down to your liking or just disappear.

I think there's an option that does that in DDR as well.

Someone's running a IIDX song popularity contest. These four first round ballots have you choose one out of the group to advance.

I'd post the links but no amount of editing prevents the spam flag.

>>16973138
put them in a pastebin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8q_f8SnDpo

Can someone explain to me why this song is a 10?

>>16973678

are you fucking retarded? in the first like 20 seconds there's a huge pile of common 10 traits

like abundant three-button chords, fast single-note streams, two-button chords in fast streams

>>16973678
I don't see why it shouldn't be a 10.

>>16973678

Fuck you. That was a pain in the ass Hard Clear to get for me. it's easily a higher order 10.

>>16973138
>>16973489
Yeah, why didn't I think of that.
https://pastebin.com/z1NdEGVk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O02gDHXa1nI

90s Konami is best Konami.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgoI7ML2JoQ

>>16973678
It's a solid mid tier 10, what are you talking about

>>16973897

I don't think even I'm autistic enough for this.

>>16969856
not really

3y3s(h) is one of the harder 10s and most hyper 10s are on par with the others

some one coiled quantify it using clickagain and some adding and dividing but im lazy

For P1 side players, how do you manage Scratch + 1/2 with a roll pattern on 3+5 ?
I play taka.s but i guess for some patterns you have to turn your hand to pretty much be like 1048 for a bit, but it's hard to scratch like that

>>16975099

Sounds like a nightmare, what chart is this?

>>16931998
Does that incude reruns? Cause they're reruns.

Playing K-Shoot/SDVX and I'm really enjoying it but now that I'm on 11-13s I'm getting my shit kicked in by tracks that require me to constantly mix up the position of my hands, any tracks in particular that are good for practicing this?

>>16975099
Depends on how fast the pattern is. You can cover 1/2 just fine with your left. For 3/5, you can either bring over your index/middle if there are no other patterns going on at same time. Otherwise, just try your best to handle it with your right thumb, since you're hit possibly the hardest thing there is to handle with taka.s
Don't forget to improvise.

>>16969856
you're a fucking retard lmao

>>16976434

I'LL CUT YOUR FUCKING HEAD OFF!

Any decent soft pads on the market?

>>16975974
lemures prelude is a fun song with hand switching and other stuff like one-handing FX notes

Other than that I can't really remember, but you'll get better with just playing a lot.

have you ever played a game everyone told you was bad because you needed to see how bad it was firsthand?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCUBO9kY7FU

>sigsig hyper

this is not a 7 wtf, wasted my credit

>>16976585
Will check it out, thanks dude.

>>16976914
yeah its an 8

unless you've seen it before, just dont play charts from before like, resort anthem if you care about shitty ratings

>>16975974

>>16976914
now try bad maniacs spn

difficulty curves don't exist, or if they do they are purely linear
the "steep part" of a curve is just where you meet your existing power level
hence everybody has their own ideas about how a particular game's curve is

>>16977029

>resort anthem

It goes higher and higher every fucking week

>don't play anything before 9th style those charts suck
>don't play anything before 10th style those charts suck
>don't play anything before RED those charts suck
>don't play anything before GOLD those charts suck
>don't play anything before Empress those charts suck
>don't play anything before SINOBUZ those charts suck

Quit whining about charts and get better at jacks.

>>16977348
i'm fucking pro at jacks. i play 5key bm, and exhc s-random janky shit all the time

its not that the hs-sirius era charts are bad, but there are loads of fucked up ratings in there that arent super apparent to higher level players so they don't get why people complain about them. like 3y3s [n], a 7 with a 5 beginning and 9.9 ending. or air raid from the undaground [h] which is rated a 9 when it's a low-mid 10

when you're new and learning, misrated charts really piss you off + discourage you so it's just better to avoid them.

>>16977187
wrong

for someone with no skill at all, or only experienced in basic music games like guitar hero, iidx 1s are drastically harder than sdvx 1s, or even sdvx 5s. sdvx is an easier game to start out with, but the curve goes 0-100 real quick at 14s, while iidx has an initial hump and is more gradual from there.

alright, I'm a retarded newfag when it comes to this, since I just signed up for nesica yesterday.

Anyone know which Groove Coaster is used at most round 1s?

>>16977437
It's more gradual now since the levels are now expanded to 20.

>>16978555
meanwhile iidx's difficulty system remains outdated

Anyone know some good kshoot or sdvx tracks to practice middle chords. I'm at 13-14 and almost any track that does combines side chords with middle chords fucks withe me bad

Grace a cute

>>16978700
A slut*

>>16978448

Groove Coaster 3EX

>>16978598
No way to really practice them apart from just playing more.
Try イカサマライフゲイム and セツナトリップ.

>>16977029
>just dont play charts from before like, resort anthem if you care about shitty ratings

holy fuck people like this actually exist
fucking kill yourself my man

>>16939316

Y'know, from an external perspective, this looks embarrassingly retarded. Makes me want to cringe myself to death.

>>16976626
looks fun to play without taking the game seriously

>>16976626
Looks fun.

>>16939316
>That shitty hand position

What are the odds of him having RSI?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1fSKaHDZJU

I hate these lives. They just makes me feel mad that I can't play it. ;_;

why are koreans so strict
i just wanted the private o2jam launchers outside of dpjam and samojam ;-;

how do i know when to spin in the 回レ！ song

>>16931605
i remember that site having all songs fucked up, like all 63/64 or stuff like that, did it ever get fixed?

>>16977055
literally every bemani

10% of the songlist spread across all difficulties and all the rest cramped inside the last and second to last rating

thanks to this we have bullshit like A and memedes being same difficulty and difficulties 7-8-9 where they are all pretty much the same stuff except the occasional outlier

you can argue that this happens because iidx only got 12 levels and still has to sort out the ratings from happy sky changes but then you have the same shit in dm/gf (same rating scale until xg where they just added a decimal never used so as a matter of fact nothing changed) and popn where they just added a couple of numbers out of 40+ just to set apart a couple of boss songs

How does /jp/ feel about Shin-uchi mode? Is getting rid of combo scoring more fair, or cheating?

>>16984645
It's probably better, but it doesn't really matter when two perfect scores will still differ due to being able to vibrate on a roll faster than someone else. I thought people just looked at 良 and 可 counts anyway.

https://youtu.be/CVPTIVHS7hc?t=1m47s

wtf is this

>>16985316
There are a lot of silly PIU co-op charts like that. This one was even pretty tame. The only trick is knowing when to hop in, which is obvious after playing it once.

>>16985316
Fun

>>16984328
>difficulties 7-8-9 where they are all pretty much the same stuff

t. autistic hikki ex kaiden that plays insane bms and calls iidx 11s easy

nobody cares about you, you're an outlier, go back to your clickagain ratings and jack off with your 3 friends about which 2,000 note 12 is the hardest and how you totally saw a kick drum on the 5 key with random so you went out and shot up a school and quit the game forever

ratings dont matter at all anymore because you can just look at the actual clear rate & fc rate before playing a song

>>16986253
lol, pretty sure anyone above like, 7th dan would agree that the jump from 7 to 9 is almost nothing

but you're free to keep thinking only kaiden aaa autists are the only players who are even half-decent at the game

stay shit at iidx, amateur

>>16986284

It's not, retard. 9 is the first difficulty where almost any pattern is valid. There's nothing you'd see in higher difficulties that you couldn't find in a 9, save for 4-3 denim and all key+scratches. Everything else can be found somewhere albeit easier, slower versions.

>>16986322
>There's nothing you'd see in higher difficulties that you couldn't find in a 9

>>16986284
i'm 8th dan, you fucking nigger

saying that 7s and 9s are the same thing is just plain fucking wrong unless the only 7 you've played is 3y3s spn. you can be able to do something easily and still acknowledge how difficult it is in a somewhat objective manner, because you remember how you had to learn to do it.

>>16986327
>what is reading comprehension

>>16986333
>8th dan
>commenting on 12s

>>16986337
where the fuck did i comment on 12s? you're really, really bad at understanding the english language. or you're just baiting, in which case A+ work because i want to strangle you and watch the life drain from your shitposting eyes

>>16986340
look when you actually start clearing real charts, then you'll understand why 7s are just as hard as 9s. because every single difficulty after 9 is a larger jump in complexity than the jump from 7 to 9 in the first place, and 12 might as well be three of *those* difficulties in one

also let me in on a secret. "higher difficulties" means 12s.

>>16986352
>when you count to 100, you'll understand why 4 is really equal to 6

thinking emoji

i never said 12s are easy, or that they're close to 10s or 11s
i get that you don't remember what it's like to experience anything but 12s for the first time

but your opinions are so far removed from the majority of people who play this game it's ridiculous

>>16986360
idk i remember progressing through 7s 8s and 9s and thinking the real wall was 10s, but whatever

guess you just need to git gud :)

>>16986363
>7s and 9s are the same thing
>no they're not idiot, 9s have higher notecounts and are more complex
>yeah but 12s are a trillion times harder than 7s or 9s so they're the same thing, are u shit or something lol?

this is my last reply i cannot believe i let myself get so thoroughly baited

>>16986352

They're the 'same' just because of how much of a jump in difficulty there is between 12s?
That's not correlated at all, if you can't tell the difference between an AC 7 and a 9 then i don't know what to tell you.
You've probably just been playing shitty insane BMS for too long

>>16986352
>look dude u are not an REAL GAMER, im am a REAL GAMER

My favourite meme is that SDVX is for kids who like denpa and it ruined bemani while IIDX is a real man's game with serious music only.

I bet you're an oldfag, probably been here since Spada or some other ancient style.

>>16986964

if you switched the soundtracks i'd still play iidx because sdvx fucking sucks that much

I can understand the complaints for the SDVX soundtrack back for 1 and 2, but it's improved a lot since then. By now it's on par with the rest of Bemani. Lot's of great tracks come out of the original song contests.

Now modern DDR, there's a Bemani game with a dogshit soundtrack.

>>16986964
>ancient style
>SPADA
Nice b8 m8

>game has a gimmick
>90% of the songs don't use it properly/at all

What's it's name?

>>16987190
beatmania III comes to mind.

>>16987190

IIDX for sure., A turn table is not a FX button. Unless there are actual scratches in the music, it should not be used in the chart.

>>16987030
every single one of your opinions is shit, delete your account

>>16987800
>Unless there are actual scratches in the music, it should not be used in the chart.

lmao

>>16984645
Whining about combo scoring in a game as easy as Taiko is pretty autistic. Score shouldn't be a goal at all until you're actually good enough to full combo a song, and at that point your complaint is as good as moot.

Shin'uchi is only useful for hosting actual live competitions that are meaningful and not just "whoever drops his combo first loses".

G-G-GIRL I KNOW YOU WANT IT

LET ME HEAR YOUR ASS CLAP

FIRE

anyone here like museca

>>16989036
It's fun but way too easy, needs to survive at least another version or two before its songlist and difficulty will be anything worth discussing.

>>16989056
So return the lifebar?

>>16988989
>tfw playing the [a] chart on keyboard

Had a dream that I was playing pump it up but I've never played the game.

I had trouble reading because the screen was tiny, and also the notes were rendered in perspective with the notes flat on the ground

>>16992763
It's not the lack of a lifebar, it's that the songs are actually that easy. I was clearing 15s after literally playing three or four rounds ever.

The tracker down or something?

Anyone remember that Japanese guy who was uploading videos of his IIDX play and he was getting Bs and shit on 5s? I kinda want to check up on him and see his progress. Didn't save his channel though.

It was probably 20-30 threads ago.

>>16995383

I remember the video, he had a hand shot and uploaded songs he failed.
Can't find it in my history though

>>16995383
I posted that, he's in my sub list, i'll find it, one sec

https://www.youtube.com/user/1999ukyox1/videos

>>16995416

Oh no, this is a tragedy. Why is he still playing 4s? I was expecting AAs on 8s and 9s. What went wrong?

Thanks for the link, by the way.

>>16995433
his speedmod is way too high, he gets hella slows

and his technique is probably very awkward. he also still doesnt use lanecover

he needs a mentor ;_;

>>16995416

I hate subbing to multiple people that upload videos like this, because a new song comes out and it's just a bunch of videos of the same chart.

>used to live in ohio
>closest round1 was 5 hours away in pennsylvania
>moved to florida
>closest round1 is 9 hours away in georgia
i'm literally never going to play beatmania i want to die

>>16995470
Ohio has plenty of non-official eamuse bemani places though

although florida is pretty screwed in terms of bemani, I agree

>>16995490
i don't live in ohio anymore and when i did i didn't know anybody else who played rhythm games so i didn't really have any connections to find anything

>>16995439

I thought at first maybe he is playing one handed because I know people who are like that. They forego ever being elite at the game and just stick to 6-8s because that's how they have fun.

But after going back to when he didn't use a capture card and you could hear the key presses, you could tell he's playing 2 handed.

He's no doubt playing amidst way better players, why has no one given him pointers? Is this the power of Japanese customs?

>>16995490

what happened to beach gameland?

Someone tell me how to clear the safari before i kill myself please

>>16995433
>>16995439
Japs are huge casuals too you know.

>>16995439
what is lanecover?

>>16995652
Mash and hope for the best

>>16996015
sudden+ or lift (or hidden, technically)
it makes a part of the lanes invisible, so it makes the lanes less cluttered by notes.
See for example here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4gPbNLXWiw
the top part of the screen is the lanecover, since he's using hidden+.
It also makes so that you don't have to every time set the correct green number and you can easily handle bpm changes with scratch+start.
Absolutely recommended.

>>16996051
Fuck, sudden+, not hidden.

>>16996069
>sudden+ or lift (or sudden+, technically)

>>16996086
let me quote myself:
"the top part of the screen is the lanecover, since he's using hidden+."
THAT is the part where you replace hidden with sudden+. Sure, it sohuld be "hidden+", not hidden, but eh.

Sinobuz when?

sviddix

>>16995652
random

or just treat it like a chord stream and grind until it gets easy

>>16996327
sinobuz is already out dude it's been out for a few months

are you slow or something

>>16997248

Round 1 fags must go. Lucky fuck!

>>16997248
You both know that's not what he was talking about.

>>16997576
>>16998537
when iidx lawnmower comes out, you can have sinobuz. why even ask? you know the answer. learn japanese, go hang out with bemanichan. they've got it

>>16999424

Is Summer part of the default release songs? If so I might just do that.

>>16999510
yes, summer is part of the default songlist.