/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>16891242
Whenever I see 10th Anniversary Miku, I really, really want a Miku cover of this song: https://youtu.be/8MC0G-Lbuuk

why is luka so cute?

>>16891242
Reminder that Miku is the cutest girl in the world!

>>16891303
Yet another Lukafag ignored. I feel you man.

>>16891242
The last thread lasted 4 days. These are getting shorter and shorter.

How about we get to post some songs and at least act like we're here to discuss something vaguely related to Vocaloids?

Maybe this is just general craziness, but I'm considering to buy one of these to print my favourite Miku pictures. Mostly Wokada ones.

It's one of those printers for photographies that do not use ink nor toner, but the paper comes with it's own termal ink or something like that. The size of the print is rather small, but also top quality, and Internet pictures don't come with much resolution anyways.

>>16891344
Anyone ever heard of 23.exe? Honestly his music is so good he's become one of my favorite producers.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ie0Dyy5r1Cg
https://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=2j75js3b1#/watch?v=nZ1m0ZaFJxQ

>>16891381
Yeah, he's pretty good.
https://youtu.be/aXmoW8W-LTo
the PVs are really nice too.

>>16891381
Yep, the best EDM/dub in my personal opinion.

He's a great underdog, definitely deserves more attention, in fact, he just released a new song with a very appropriate name:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31063377

>>16891381
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ1m0ZaFJxQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D2m0e3d55Vs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ie0Dyy5r1Cg

>>16891400
Agreed, best EDM Vocaloid producer atm imo.

>>16891344
I just recently listened to an album called Miku-ro Adventure and it was really fun. Would recommend.

Lamaze is producing new songs.
http://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv296208248

>>16891479
LamazeP pls I don't want you to die from a heart attack or an embolism. Just take vacations for a while.

Hi Vocaloid Thread
I'm asking this here because IDK who else would know

Does anyone know how to download videos from niconicodouga? I've searched how to do it before (and I've obviously done it before because I have some downloaded files), but it was a long time ago and I've forgotten how to

>>16891242
>of course OP forgets the vocaloid tagging tutorial
https://pastebin.com/T893zqg8

>>16891663
There's a chrome extension that dls nico nico videos: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/niconico-audio-extractor/eecoahjklhopckkiefihjloeidikepdh?hl=ja
I've also used a website in the past, though I don't remember what it was called.

>>16891679
Sorry, I just realized that was for audio only, I'm retarded.

>>16891663
This one's for Firefox only: https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/nicofox/
And there's this website I found: https://video-download.online/site/niconico

>>16891663
That sounds like the shittiest, lowest form of pirating. Downloading compressed Nico videos, so it can get compressed again.

wow I just realised I was trying to download something I already downloaded from back then

never mind guys

>>16891718
Nicofox doesn't always work properly though.

and the other one doesn't work.

Yarr. Th' Pirates are squiffy

>playing X as my first Project Diva game
>Jesus Christ that cool medley was awful
>play f months later
>wtf I love Unhappy Refrain now
>wtf I love Tengaku now
>play Future tone later
>wtf I love Palette now
What were they thinking? Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to add dubstep noises to everything?

>>16892009
>one bad medley defines all the game
But then, cool medley is not bad, is just that they needed to homogenise all the songs it is based on, and in that case in particular, dubstep noises were the way.

Personally, the only thing I complain is about taking away the rolling R's on Rin's Don't Mylist me!. That was uncalled.

https://youtu.be/sDn0BGbXDHI

>>16891479
I'm hearing some "Kimochi ii"s in there, and my mind automatically fills out the rest.

Lamaze, what in gods name are you composing.

>>16892065
He fell to the dark side already? Miku pantyshots when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdx2cewsZ_M

WANOPO still going strong! Nice to see them releasing stuff so regularly

>>16892038
It's kinda disappointing that my favorite Rin song finally got put into a game and then they just used like 15 seconds of it, and that part of the chart is boring to play too

>>16892240
Basically my feeling on the whole Giga-P medley... All 4 songs in the medley would have been so much fun to play by themselves

>>16892378
>>16892240
We just have to wait for SEGA to put them on Future Tone

>>16892088
Soon™

>>16891303
The perfect balance between cute and beautiful.

>>16892467
And autism.

>>16892520
My wife is not autistic. She's just kind of dorky and sometimes lacks self-control around pencils.

>>16892559
>sometimes lacks self-control around pencils
And 16 year old robots.

>>16892559
>>16892568

>>16892065
>>16892088
YES!

IT BEGINS

>>16892065
>Kimochii is a lewd expression
Stop watching Hentai

>>16892559
I'm not so sure if she actually has a quirk like in the Hello, Worker video.

I don't consider every song of hers as her canon personality because songs like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8L75guzMn4 exists.

>>16892088
Never, literally and figuratively never

Don't try to meme it into existance either. The oceans will swallow the lands, cities will turn to dust and our little planet will be enveloped by its mother sun thousands of millenia from now, but if there's one guarantee in THIS life, besides dying, it's that Lamaze P would never, EVER lewdify his Miku-tan.

Do you think an English IA would be possible?
https://youtu.be/-3ODzOVP8I0

>>16893033
If anything, LamazeP would make her pantyshots as pure and innocent as they can be. But yes, I don't think he would consider worthy taking that risk.

>a singer from the future where songs have been lost

Could be an interesting story

A couple of nice new songs:
Anti-Gravity City by Musumi
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31051792
Sweet, calm song with a stunning PV
バカをやるなら by Shero
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31024962
Cute rock song led by Miku with cameos from various loids

>>16888204
Weeell... If you insist on knowing.

https://track3.mixtape.moe/skusmb.swf

>>16893947
Surely was meant for
>>16888259

>>16892884
There is no canon. She can be whatever you want her to be whenever you want. That said, my dorky wife Luka is the cutest kind.

I've always wondered how tribal the Vocaloid community is in respect to their corresponding Vocaloids.

A good example to what I'm talking about would be Kagaminefags. They're more often than not so very vocal about their fanaticism and that everything else sucks and can't compare, including you for not worshipping the Kagamines as much as they.

When it comes to myself I have no strong opinion about other Vocaloids, they're just things that exists.

>>16894273
>She can be whatever you want her to be whenever you want.
I'm so glad of that because I imagine her being adopted in Miku's house after temporarily retiring while Crypton fixes her. She tries to cook and do the housework, but she is clumsy so Miku ends up doing the difficult tasks. Miku don't consider her a burden at all, she is glad to have company and thinks the house have becoming a happier place. What Luka didn't know after moving is that Miku becomes very relaxed at home. After a while of being together she just walked around in underwear or with just an apron, like she did when she was alone. Luka has become very anxious because of this and the days pass while thinking if she should say something and if doing that would endanger their friendship.

Thank you for reading my blog.

>>16891242
How do I start making vocaloid music? The pastebin didn't really include any indication of where to find voice banks and shit.

>>16894416

Pretty much same as you, desu. I have some preferences for some over others, based on their voice, but that's about the extent of it.

>>16894571
You start by gathering a group of people, then you all begin reading the bible by taking turns reciting a single word, then spend the next 3 weeks discussing how you felt about it.

After that, you can go into the Vocaloid thread on /jp/ and ask a stupid question, of which I will respond to you because I am as retarded as you are. Then, you can go "oh yes, my precious (You)s" as you drink bleach and I hang myself.

Now get out of /jp/.

>>16894273
I know, I know, I was talking about my own headcanon. In my mind, she isn't clumsy or dorky, but a bit more on the stoic and quiet side.


>>16894416
I like the others. Not as much as I like Luka, of course.

Can't you imagine them (at least the Crypton ones) as the closest friends of Miku? Because for me it's hard to see them as just things that exists, because they're almost all the time together in songs, pictures, etc.

>>16894416

>>16894416
I have my preferences but I've never been super fanatical like that. It seems like that's more of a "dumb teenagers and Miku fans" thing than a general Vocaloid thing. You can fit those Kagaminefags squarely in the "dumb teenagers" part, usually.

>>16891242
So will Rin get a 10th anniversary design some point this year as well?

>>16894607
simply ebin

>>16894571
You can purchase the voicebanks off of online retailers or pirate them through certain sources. Note that for Vocaloid4 banks, you'll also need to acquire the editor; pirated voicebanks can't be used with the real editor and vice versa.

>>16894653
>and Miku fans
I don't see the relation.

>>16894677
Who?

>>16893033
>made a custom hand drawn interface of UNA to mimic mouth movements whenever her voice is used
Lamaze is UNA now, so you can rest assured

>>16894571
I don't think many if anybody here actually knows how to make music. They are just into Vocaloids in general.

>>16894720
Isn't Vocaloid software like $200 something. A CFM voice bank can be $100-$200. Not sure how Piapro compares but it looks good enough at a glance.

The cutest!

>>16894808
RIN

>>16894840
$200 can be expensive if you're only playing around with it. It's not bad at all for an established musician, I suppose. Probably much cheaper than hiring a human singer.

>>16894884
How does Vocaloid compare to Piapro.

Is Miku dead already?

It seems nobody is releasing any new songs.

We will see the next magical mirai. If they repeat all the same old songs, then it will mean Miku is really dead.

>>16894957
Of course Magical Mirai will feature older songs. No one goes to a concert to hear new songs. You go to hear songs you already know you love. I would be mad if it DIDN'T have nearly exclusively older songs.

>>16894957
Even Lamaze bailed, so probably.

>>16894956
I believe that Piapro is just a platform for sharing Vocaloid media, instrumentals of Vocaloid songs, etc.

>>16894957
She's nothing compared to the 2008-2012 days. I blame the growing number of other vocaloids and utaites.
It seems like there are some very good active producers (Nayutalien and Maretu come to mind), but there are less and less people viewing the videos in general. It makes sense that not many new producers are appearing. Who would want to release songs for a shrinking crowd? There needs to be a large fanbase for talented producers like wowaka to show up, looking for popularity.
I think they'll do a MM with mostly old favorites, some recycled Project Diva songs, and some hits like Alien Alien. Maybe they'll do Law-Evading Rock, I'd love to see a module for that.

>>16894972
Lamazu only made one good song. 愛の詩.

>>16895021
Lolita whatever Una song is pretty good too, don't you try to deny it, i'll fight you.

Luckily we're gonna have loads of Una in the future, yay.

Keep the Racing Queens coming.

>>16894416
I don't dislike any Vocaloid nor their fans with the exception of some shippers.

I think some people just try to trigger other because they think it's fun to say that their waifu is shit.

>>16894991
I don't think so. I think you can create music with Piapro. Whether Piapro does more than that, IDK.

https://twitter.com/cfm_miku_en/status/855242770260180992

>>16894991
>>16895156
And just to add on. Here's a useful video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVIStygGX40

reminder that rolling girl is the best song made after

tengaku is right after it

>>16894991
>>16895156
"Piapro" is a site for sharing Vocaloid related works(pictures, songs, lyrics, etc)
"Piapro Studio" is Crypton's custom Vocaloid editor.

>>16895600
Guess I was using the words too loosely

>>16895016
>>16894991
>>16894972
>>16894957
>Let's just ignore all the concerts, public events, TV ads and merchandising released this year
>She's dead guys

>>16894416
Where's the fun in Vocaloids if not in the idol attachment?

>>16896198
We need to discuss something, Vocaloid related news and content are currently drier than the surface of Venus.

I could just sit here and dump Mikus all day, bet you'd like that, huh?

>>16896418
>Vocaloid related news and content are currently drier than the surface of Venus.
Vocaloid news are scarce: yes
Miku news are scarce: lol no

>>16896434
Who's Miku?

>>16896434
Who is Miku.

>>16896459
>Who is Miku
Yukari's mom.

Have you preordered you Miku glasses yet?
http://www.mikufan.com/hatsune-miku-v4x-theme-glasses-by-washin-now-available-for-preorder-worldwide/

Don't tell me you don't need glasses?
>2017
>Not having myopia
>Laughing Luka.jpg

>>16896481
>one hundred and forty dollars
Will they allow me to see into the Vocaloid world?

>>16896507
That's not expensive at all. My last glasses frames costed me like $120.

>>16896510
These are not Kyle Lagerfeld, Lyle & Scott or Hilfiger frames, they're just chinese novelty glasses with Miku imprints.

I need to make a happy merchant Miku edit, these shady clandestine practices are getting out of hand.

>>16896480
I would imagine Meiko to be the mother of JP Vocaloids

>>16896566
>I would imagine Meiko to be the grandmother of JP Vocaloids
ftfy

So you're sitting on the beach smoking a bowl when suddenly this smug robert walks up to you casting shade everywhere and blocking your sweet rays.
What do?

>>16896566
>>16896593
But who is the father? Did she just will the other vocaloids into existance?

>>16896638
KAITO, of course. See, this is an artificially coloured daguerreotype from when they started dating.

>>16896640
I love this old hag.

>>16896593
Miku is too young to be a mother

>>16896841
I want to make Miku into a mother.
But I would wait until we both are ready and stable financially.

>>16896841
That's where you're wrong

>>16896875
MiniMikus are usually portrayed as little sisters of Miku
see ChibiMiku and PuchiMiku

>>16896891
Did you bother actually looking at the picture?

>>16896875
How does it feel knowing what else that artist drew of Miku?

>>16896910
There's a notable gap between "things happening to Miku" and "things happening to other characters" and I think that gap needs to be closed

>>16896900
'''''usually'''''

>>16896929
Are you trying to make a point?

>>16896945
well, based on my experience at least

>>16896910
Eating oranges, you say?

Miku is so caring and loving, she would be wonderful mother.

>>16897030
>not posting full gif

Can someone please convert ねぎらうよっ！
that was uploaded into mp3 320 and upload it? My computer refuses to let me convert it.

The fuck I am listening?

New song by 40mP

https://youtu.be/qK0c0S7hNPA

>>16897309
The chorus sounds almost exactly like another vocaloid song I heard donkey's years ago, and it's driving me completely fucking nuts that I can't remember what it was called.

Help me, I need an adult.

Holy hell, a buddy and me were talking about some old stuff we used to do together and the like, and the topic of vocaloids came up. With his help I was actually able to find a download for the first vocaloid album I ever got, at an anime convention in 2011. Think it was 2011 at least, pretty sure it was. Album was pic related.

That opening hit me like a ton of bricks, it's only been around six years, but it still hit that sweet spot.

Wokada might have broken his hand but that won't stop him.

>>16897541
Reminds me of Cactus and Mirage
hope it doesn't end that way

>>16897541
The crazy bastard, what a god damn hero. He's like a rustle light.

>>16897309
and translated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ItpZinF3c

>vocaloid threads

https://youtu.be/iRGu1-uyiYw

wat

>>16897631
¶(⁄•˅̮•∖)⁋

>>16897631
Let's start fixing that.

>>16897661
The part where he smash the calculator claims for a [dissapareance of Hatsune Miku intensifies] gif

Which one is the bigger blunder
LukaV4X or IA TALK?

>>16897718
Yes. Let's.

>>16897718
Indeed

>>16897746
Imagine being reduced to a Talkloid.

>>16897846
Better than being homeless.

>>16897871
Not homeless, just free-spirited!
Better than being a total blunder I guess.

>>16897718
Me-gu-ri-ne Lu-ka-san~

>>16898866
>Short haired Luka

>>16898866
Luka?

>>16898932
Luka!

>>16898932
>>16898938
Luka.

>>16898938
So beautiful.

>>16898938
>>16898968
Luka?!

>>16898866
Megurine Luka (巡音ルカ)
Also known as "Best Vocaloid"
Or as I recently started calling her "My beautiful wife"

>>16898984
My wife is beautifuler than yours.

Leeks.

>>16898938
This Luka is too beautiful.

>>16894416
I have my favorite vocaloids (it's Rin and Len, actually), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying the others as well. I believe this is the same for most people, since if you like a specific vocaloid you'll probably be into the scene as a whole as well.

I agree with >>16894653 in that the annoying fans are the dumb teenagers, no matter which vocaloid they like more. Even on this board sometimes you see the occasional Mikufag shitting on every other vocaloid like only Miku should exist.

>>16895016
People just lose interest in things over time, it's normal. Still, there are tons of new stuff coming out in terms of songs, merhandise, concerts, etc, so I think it's unrealistic that Miku will die anytime soon.

Law-evading Rock is amazing though, been listening to it constantly since it came out... At least Neru is still releasing stuff. Maybe we'll see it on the next Project Diva, who knows.

>>16899613
I'm the Mikufag shitting on everything and I'm 23 years old. Post mortem to the initial offense, it's all just bants. You know, the exact opposite of what Kagaminefags did to force an innocent wiki admin to retire.

>>16899738
Idk if you're the specific example I'm thinking about (it was many threads back), but there's so much baiting going on in these threads it's hard to see the difference sometimes.

Again, I think that falls under the "dumb teenager" demographic. Younger fans tend to be drawn towards the Kagamines and Miku, so naturally the worst of the worst fanatics in the fanbase will be fans of those. That's why IMO it's misleading to attribute a specific behavior to a fanbase as a whole, since almost always it's just a specific sect of the fanbase acting like that.

>>16899886
I think majority of audience is drawn towards Kagamines and Miku and that's why some of them feel comfortable to act bossy and mean. They will always be in majority after all.

I'm a Mikufag and I'm 22. Yet I take part in bants sometimes just for memes. I don't really have anything against other Vocaloids, I really like some of theirs songs. Still, I listen and care only about songs with Miku.

>>16899533
Every Luka is beautiful.

>>16898984
>>16899045
Your wives show a lot of similarities.

>>16899886
>>16899980
So Luka fans are the superior Vocaloid fans, while Kagamine and Miku fans are teens or manchilds.

>>16900348
Every incarnation of Luka is beautiful but not every image.


Fellow Luka lovers, what's your favourite version of Luka?

>>16900348
Would you report this gentle Luka to security personnel?

>>16900682
>So Luka fans are the superior Vocaloid fans, while Kagamine and Miku fans are teens or manchilds.

Please don't.

>Every incarnation of Luka is beautiful but not every image.
I agree, specially when they draw her like a titty monster.

>favourite version of Luka
Can't choose one, but let's say I really like when she's wearing glasses.

>>16900683
She looks scary with that spine, but she doesn't look dangerous, so no need to report her.

>>16900682
I love all forms of Luka. Especially badass Luka from things like Dancer in the Dark.

Gaijin lottery applications are open.

>>16900682
>So Luka fans are the superior Vocaloid fans, while Kagamine and Miku fans are teens or manchilds.
All 3 Luka fans, yes :^)
JK, Luka is fine I guess

>>16899980
>>16899738
>23
>22
Look at the youngsters. 33 years old here, I wake up with Clover Club every day.

>>16901178
29 soon used, to wake up to Nanakorobi yaokinai, but now I get up up to 1 day 48 hours

>>16901463
used to
commas are complicated

I was ready to hate her (because of her design) when she first came out, but Gumi is my fave, overtaking my longtime Rin and Len favouritism. I now have strong nostalgia for Nem's earlier works.

Speaking of nostalgia, what were the first vocaloid songs you downloaded?
Not 100% sure but I THINK it was Dolls:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OZGKO7bS-w

>>16901552
there was a 3 hours long complation of 50 popular songs at the time, and someone made a post with nicosound links to all of them, so those

Does anybody know where to find a version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttDhQV7eQZ0

with the vocals?

I have the album but it's instrumental and the one on piapro is slightly different but still instrumental only.

>>16900682
>So Luka fans are the superior Vocaloid fans, while Kagamine and Miku fans are teens or manchilds.
Nope. Being in minority doesn't imply being superior. The latter part is baseless as well.

I'm enjoying Teniwoha's Girl Detective series. It definitely feels stagnant, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWkOjE4VhNs

>>16900682
>the superior Vocaloid fans
Yeah, if waifufaggotry is considered superior you sure are the chieftains of the fandom.

>>16901552
There's no way I could remember the first song I downloaded, but something tells me it's Meltdown since that's the song that really got me into vocaloid

>>16901552
Over 16bit.

i want 2 fuck wolpis kater

>>16902606
I want to have gentle and passionate session of consensual love making in the lotus position with lots of cuddles and kisses with Miku for the purpose of pleasure and tightening our bond.

Do Vocaloid fans typically not like utaite (or the other way around,) or do people just usually pick Vocaloid or utaite and stick to them without much overlap?

>>16902994
3D ALWAYS PD

>>16902994
Why even bother when its utaite? Might as well listen to ordinary jpop.

>>16903132
Because Vocaloid songs with good production are ruined by emotionless robot voices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs3OD2s65is

>>16903152
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRe_VFVhSLU

>>16903144
What horseshit. The robots are the appeal.

>>16902994
Why would I care about some 3DPD trying to mimic superior virtual singer, if I can just listen to my perfect beloved singing to me all the day?

>>16903144
Get a load of this normie
You're on the wrong board, kiddo

>>16902994
I like utaites as long as they have unique voices and don't sound like generic anime OP singer #3432.

>>16901552
Nem is great! Still my favorite producer to this day, and I've yet to see someone who tunes Len better than him. Also, I really like jazzy stuff and it's hard to find that in Vocaloid (Oster is another one of my favorites)

Man, the first song I downloaded was probably World is Mine or something, IDK

>>16902994
I hate utaite, but only because they can steal fans from the actual vocaloids (looking at yku, Reol.)

>>16903803
Still, if not for Reol we wouldn't have a lot of great vocaloid songs as well, so it evens out I think.

>>16904192
Like what?

>>16902994
I don't really care about them.

>>16900682
I'm late to reply. My favourite Luka is a mysterious or stoic one but I like a smug Luka too. There really too many I love.

>>16902994
I used to be quite a fan but not so much anymore.

Is anyone here going to Magical Mirai 2017?

>>16905355
I plan to.
I just need to win a ticket.

>>16905377
Why don't you get the accommodation plan?

>>16905355
All that stands between me and the Miku is a ticket.

>>16905386
I'm considering it. It's way more expensive than normal ticket.

Also it seems like my "friends" who wanted to go with me changed flight dates and I'll have travel alone. This makes it even more troublesome. I just want to see my beloved on stage on her birthday(or few days later), but it's getting harder and harder.

>>16905355
How many times can I apply? So far I've applied for Friday and Sunday evening.

>>16905355
You mean the possibly most important concert ever?

>>16905435
>spoiler
Thisthisthis.
I'll hang out with you if we happen to both go to the same concert.

>>16905455
You can apply for all of them.

>>16905435
I earn 10k an year and i'm buying the accomodation plan.

I mean it's just $135 more and you do have to stay in a hotel anyway. For me it's definitely worth it.

>>16905535
Not the anon, but I plan to stay for longer than a single day. I went through the trouble of actually going to Japan, assuming I even win a ticket, might as well get a little more out of it.

>>16905677
How does buying the accommodation plan for that day prevents me from enjoying the rest of Japan afterwards?

>>16905700
Aren't you only allowed a single nights stay? Unless you plan to live on the streets like a certain someone.

>>16905355
>>16905377
>>16905405
I applied and selected 2 tickets, if I win, I'll have an extra ticket for an anon because I don't have any actual friends to go.

>>16905743
I'd even compensate you, I never win these stupid lotteries... why can't it be first come, first served.

Western vocaloid (No Cryptonloids, few JP songs) concert being streamed here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKX8zEQctfM
Obviously pretty amateur, but it looks interesting. Hope the ENG fanbase grows larger.

>>16904310
A good chunk of Giga-P songs http://vocadb.net/Ar/7437

>>16905535
I guess. But still I would like to stay for a week or two to explore some of Japan, I've never been there and I won't go again soon I think. So the whole cost will be a little higher.

>>16905709
You can buy accommodation for the other days on your own. It's not like you are only allowed to use one hotel.

>>16905743
I'd love to join.


Also maybe is anyone interested in 1-2 week trip to go to the concert and see some of Japan? It'd be nice and easier to go with some people, I think.

>>16905891
Finding accomodation is one of the more stressful aspects of traveling, especially if you plan on going to different hotels and I do not have fund memories from various student trips.

That said, I'd love to loiter with some peers from /jp/, it sounds fun.

>>16891381
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ie0Dyy5r1Cg
That's nice.

>>16905891
>>16905946
I'd also be down for hanging around Japan with anons. I think I could afford to do a week

Does anyone remember Whoo? He did beautiful acoustic stuff with Miku. Does he make new stuff?

>>16905891
>>16905946
>>16906014
I guess it's just a question of organizing this complot then, if we're all up for it.

It's still months away and there's no guarantee we'll even win tickets, so I don't want to put any work into it at the moment, but I'll write this down in my notebook and hope for the best.

>>16906232
Wow they really gave up on the people in the background, huh?

>>16906307
Why would you focus on anything other than the attractive space dyke?

Crypton is seriously insane to miss out on the potential profit that's to be gained by making an anime a la Symphogeah and capitalizing on selling singles of vocaloid songs sung by Fujita/Asakawa/Asami respectively.

Or maybe that's exactly what they're planning.

>>16892836
This is Lamaze, there's bound to be some polysemy and dubiousness involved. The only question is how far he's willing to step up his game from embarasxxx, and how much of a bad taste it's going to leave.

Does anyone have Comic and Cosmic?

Is it just me or are most songs these days really boring and similar sounding?

I remember back when songs were really good and unique. Songs like Meltdown, Triple Baka, 1/6, etc were all really unique in terms of melody and ideas.
I'm not trying to sound like some nostalgic retard who only listened to the popular songs, seriously, but now all the songs of recent seem plain and boring to me. Especially the rock songs that use the same melodies.

Don't get me wrong, every once in a while I find a good song recent song but most of them just suck. Perhaps it's just that all the really good producers have moved on. Anyone else feel this way?

>>16894855
You got ful pic of that Rin fampai sensei?

>>16908443
>not trying to sound like some nostalgic retard
prepare your anus

For real though, there are many people who feel this way, but happy-happy love-love fags shoot this topic down every time someone mentions it.

>>16895021
Implying とりぷるばか isn't good

>>16908443
I bet it's just you mate, being really boring and similar sounding, that is.

I get where you're coming from, for starters I'll talk endless love about re:packaged for example, but I don't think songs today are more dull or monotonous than they were back then. I think you're just being cynical.

>>16908481
I am more cynical, you got me there. I'm not a 12 year old anymore, there's that. Maybe it's just that. That i'm not 12 anymore. Oh well.

And yes, I love re:packaged.

>>16908493
Oh but Lamaze's songs still do it for me.

What a guy.

>>16901178
>29

I use the same ringtone as my alarm. Every morning is best morning.

>>16908493
>I'm not a 12 year old anymore
You do come off as one though, like one of those stupid millenials on youtube who honestly believes they were born in the wrong generation.

The fact you said "most songs these days" implies to me, that you've only scraped the shitty surface of the weekly/monthly rankings, without putting in the effort to find some actual decent music.

>>16901178
>>16908527
Not really something I'd be bragging about if I were you (thank God I'm not)

>>16908556
You are really making some
>implications
there.

If you met me you would realize that i'm the exact opposite of the "I was born in the le wrong generation" type. Don't read into what i'm posting as some sort of deep philosophical look into me. Me posting here literally comes down to me not being able to find good Vocaloid songs recently.

I have spent at the least 30 minutes a day each day for the past 2 or 3 years browsing songs I have never heard before. Maybe once a year i'll actually spend a whole week's worth of browsing the internet dedicated to just looking for Vocaloid songs.

And logically and statistically it would make more sense for the top songs in the rankings to be the songs that I like, that's why they are top ranked. Generally they are cleaner and more organized than lesser known songs.

>>16908443
I think the scene is more homogenous since there are fewer producers now. That's not to say that all the good ones left, just that enough left to make the rest seem repetitive. For example, I think Kurage-P's songs wouldn't sound as samey if he weren't at the top of the charts every time he posted a song. Same with Nayutalien. But there are no other producers around to inject the charts with variety.
Of course, if you're looking for more anime idol pop-y music, you'll have a harder time finding that as well. It has become a lot less popular (or its fans moved on.) Lamaze-P's Rin song with the lines about sour fruit was the last one to give me that vibe.

>>16908617
The one with the oranges and pineapple?
Strange, that one stood out for me.

I wonder if there's really a pattern here...

>>16908607
So you're implying the songs at the top of the charts are the only good ones? It's been long since I've heard such piss and only further cements my comment.

Well I guess it's pretty much fate then, that you're not supposed to find any songs that you like. And frankly, with that attitude, I wouldn't be surprised.

>>16908617
>producers around to inject the charts with variety
Yes there are, they just aren't getting the proper attention because there are some people who are content with only the rankings, because they're obviously both statistically and logically better, and doesn't put in the effort of actually searching for new material.

Instead they bicker and complain on a mongolian sewing board about how there are, supposedly, no good songs being released, which might I add is by their own standards.

The fact that some consider that surface as the best the vocaloid community has to offer, only goes to show how much of a lazy ass they are.

>>16908816
Do you really believe the western fanbase has any notable effect on the Nico rankings?

It sounds like you're bitter because your favorite producers are obscure.

Also, they never said there aren't good songs anymore, only there are much much less than before.

>>16908676
Yes, that one! It was a good song. Great melody, cute Rin.
>>16908816
A lot of stuff can slip through the cracks, even if your crawl nico. FWIW it would be cool if you posted your favorite low-rated songs to the general.

>>16908849
I can never find any western songs because they're posted either to YouTube or Soundcloud, neither of which have many ways to find new material. You have to magically know what channels to subscribe to. And there's a lot of non-Vocaloid stuff on most of those channels, too. It's no wonder that western stuff has a hard time catching on.

>>16908849
I have no favorite producers and I never so much as claimed western viewers have an impact on the rankings.

>only there are much much less than before
Which is again, completely by their own standards.

>>16908858
No, I meant western fans watching/commenting/mylisting new songs to Nico.
Which is the basis for the Weekly Rankings.

>>16908878
Oh, duh. Yeah, that is a pretty small audience. I think that's in part because nico's interface is pretty unintuitive, for someone used to YT, and there isn't much incentive to make the jump when you can just look up reprints (and not have to deal with low-quality mode.)

>>16908856
>FWIW it would be cool if you posted your favorite low-rated songs to the general
It would be cool right? Almost as if that should be the primary point of the thread? Let's instead talk about how beautiful Luka are or how we want to have sex with Miku.

Give me some time I'll have a mega link up.

>>16908900
I have no problem with waifuposting, honestly, even though I'm a raging lenfag. It can coexist with discussion.
Nico links would be cool as well, so we can leave comments/mylists on the videos.

>>16908913
>Nico links would be cool as well, so we can leave comments/mylists on the videos.

/jp/ is evolving!

>>16908913
>Nico links would be cool
Thanks for the extra work.
I listen primarily to Miku, should I sort through what little kagamine material I have, or are you desperate enough for anything?

>>16908946
I'm desperate enough for anything, honestly. Nothing wrong with Miku. If there's anything I don't like, it would be slow EDM songs, but I'd take that too. Thanks for the material, man

Might as well share some songs I'm listening to
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21449961

>>16908679
Another logical fallacy. Just because they are at the top doesn't mean that they are the only good songs. Now you're just putting words in my mouth. Why are you even here, since you obviously don't actually care to contribute. You're literally just trying to reaffirm your preconceived notions of me, some random anonymous guy trying to find vocaloid songs.

>>16908816
I never said that they were logically and statistically better, I said they were cleaner and more organized, which is what most people prefer. I guess you could be one of those guys that like random nonsensical music like death grips though.

REEEEEEEEEEE

>>16908999
Nice song. Calm and sweet. I'm glad that it got translated, too.

Currently listening to
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29080722

>>16909014
>Just because they are at the top doesn't mean that they are the only good songs
You tell me, you were the one who implied that.

>>16909033
But you did, and they're so very often not clearner and more organized, most of the times they're just loud meme songs with silly lyrics, which I guess is the preference for some.

>>16909065
Good taste Anon.

>>16909108
I wish he'd kept the tropical jungle beats throughout Wave Motion, the two first tracks are god tier.

>>16909086
I made no implications except saying that statistically and logically it would make more sense for me to like those songs, which it does. You then implied I said they were better, which I did not. Stating statistics doesn't mean anything except what it literally means, which is that it is statistically and logically more likely for me to like the songs at the top of the rankings than other songs. You also implied once again that I only listened to these pop songs at the top of the rankings right after putting those words in my mouth, which makes me question if you have even read my full post. I've listened to probably 10,000 plus vocaloid songs on both youtube and mostly nicovideo in the last 3 years. I don't know why you're trying so hard to reaffirm your beliefs of me being some "le epik redditor" with a 12 year old mentality.

>>16909108
Thanks. Do you know where I can buy the song?

I looked on amazon for it because I know he releases some of his songs there but I wasn't able to find it. Do I have to buy a physical CD or something?

>>16909135
I think I got these through proxy, from amazon.jp
I very rarely buy digital music, but if it's available somewhere it should be mentioned on the homepage of the album.

>>16909151
I just found it, it was buried within the left album in your pic on amazon in a digital download.
Thanks.

>>16909135
I haven't been trying to call you out on anything other than that your dislike for modern songs are completely by your own standards, and that you might find something if you were willing to dig deeper. I assumed you just skimmed through the rankings like most do, instead of putting in the effort of searching yourself. Songs today are fine, you've just gotten more cynical.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30520679

>>16909173
Don't know about him, but the fact that view numbers are down either supports his views, or most of the fandom merely became "cynical" over on Nico too.

this one is nice too
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30520095

>>16909197
I mean I wasn't talking about view count at all, that could overall be some other factor. Perhaps you're right though. The idea that >>16908617 presented with the producers and homogeneity could be a factor.

>>16909197
It took almost a year for World is Mine to obtain over a million views, the highest ranked vocaloid song on Nico right now have 544 thousands views after barely over a month.

I don't get all these doomsday prophecies. Seems to me Vocaloids are thriving

>>16909222
World is Mine was uploaded in 2008 when the fandom was much, MUCH lower. a year for 1 million views was very good back then. And also even considering nicovideo, or I guess nico nico's audience probably being much lower too.

>>16908913
Raging Lenfags, unite!

I have no problem with a bit of waifuposting either; I remember how slow these threads used to be a year back, and we're buning through a thread every week now, and I think this is great. Any discussion is better than no discussion after all.

>>16908856
Posting a couple of newer songs I've been listening to a lot recently. Both of those producers are very underrated too, and the rest of their stuff is worth checking out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQZZKXv-4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyiNz3mqH3s

>>16909216
>producers and homogeneity
Give newer producers some time to catch up instead of clinging to all the stale producers, Vocaloid has always been meant as a stepping stone for musical artists.
Look at R sound design for example, went from a nobody with about 5k views tops to Imperial Girl topping the charts. New blood will slowly rise to the top.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15914143

Guess i'll post this. It's not very good in terms of quality but it's very calming.

>>16909269
I have no doubts that they will rise, but I don't think that as many will be as unique and creative as the first rounds of producers that really helped spark the scene. Sure, a few will be as great but on the whole there will probably never be as many great producers in the scene at once since it was like a floodgate for a new type of music, and now most have moved on because like you said, it's a stepping stone.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30512748

Hmmm....

>>16909324
TFW it reflects the decline of the 2012 peak.

I miss the good old days.

does someone know more albums like pic related?

>>16909334
>decline
It looks more like a stock exchange graph to me, constantly rising and declining.

>>16909360
Keep telling yourself that.

But don't forget what >>16909234 said.
the last few years saw similar points as in 2008-2009 even though the fanbase is supposedly magnitudes bigger, or should be at least.

>>16909324
Things I find interesting:
-It took the fandom a few years to reach 1-2mil points in the rankings.
-Where we are now is actually comparable to 2007-2009 levels.
-The 2012 bump began when producers like wowaka and Hachi came on the scene.
-The year after Jin's series ended, the rankings dropped. Could be coincidental, maybe not.
Do you think we're in for another bump in popularity once these underrated producers grow and establish themselves? Or will they all disappear once the shrinking fanbase is unable to support them?
>>16909247
I like PLAMA a lot. The way he mixes English into his songs occasionally is great.
>>16909184
Love this one.

>>16909360
Well I actually don't know about that. So far it just looks like a rise and a decline. I don't see any reason to think it would rise back up again, but I don't have enough information. I guess it would look more like a sine graph if the 2017 season or 2018 season ends up higher than the previous.

Also companies can go to zero pretty easily.

>>16909381
I really hope he's right, but I just don't see any reasoning. The amount of users on nico would be higher today, yet numbers are declining. We can hope though.

>>16909301
Depends on how you define unique and creative, we're still getting the same types of music today and even new kinds are being introduced.

One thing I've been able to ascertain is that we're severely lacking in memes, comics, fanmade animations and so on, many of which made early Vocaloid what it was.

>>16909381
Maybe it's because the vocaloid fanbase in its entirety is split between 30 or so vocaloids. Back then it was pretty much just Miku and sometimes Kagamines. It would make sense for the fanbase to be bigger, but simultaneously cause a division in the views.

>>16909393
>we're severely lacking in memes
This is very true. The Vocaloid characters don't have as much of a fanmade personality as they used to. I think this in part because of the large number of vocaloids, and also because people are using vocaloids for commercial music more than for the personalities themselves.
This is actually why I love GYARI's music so much:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27905394
It's charming because it shows all the vocaloids interacting meaningfully, it's goofy, and it's funny.
We could use more of that, I think.

>>16909384
The thing about the producers is that the talented ones are few, and vocaloid was new at this point. At this point since it was new most of the producers would have came in at this point. After the good ones got popular, they moved on from vocaloid. Now we just have less fresh blood coming in, and that means less potential for phenomenal producers to really bring in views to the scene. Sure an old popular producer may release a song every once in a while, and a few good ones have stayed like LamazeP, but there aren't many.

>>16909393
I really feel you on that animation and pv part. Some of the animations and pvs were what actually made songs good for me. Sometimes watching a good pv with a story would make me somehow like a song I thought was mediocre just a second before.

>>16909387
>but I just don't see any reasoning.
If 1 mil was the top score in say, 2008, and the fanbase grew 3x since then(just an example) then the top score should be 3 mil today.
If "things are fine, Vocaloid is thriving" as some say.

>>16909421
but we had top scores around 2010-2013
even though lots of new voicebanks came out around 2012

Since you guys said you want to see more songs here, I grabbed some recent ones for my fellow Lukafags:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syNMFn4EIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDd37djSpvo (too slow, I don't like it that much)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31003226
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31003316 (same song as above, but with more wubs)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30898496

>>16909421

And it still wouldn't make sense even if that was the case, because the top songs going back to 2007-2008 numbers when, let's be honest here, the most popular vocaloid is still Miku, is just illogical. How many songs are really even produced per day now anyway? And how many actually using the 30 or so vocaloids that aren't Miku? Using sampling just from vocadb you can tell that it's had a significant drop recently, and it's not looking to get better.

IA
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30505834

>>16909513
It wouldn't be too farfetched to speculate that there might have been fans that defected from Miku to Yukari, IA, Gumi, Una, whatever, and depending how tribal these various fanbases are with their mindset, can be counted as lost views for every vocaloid.

If 300.000 fans for example fell in love with another UNA, and half of them simply refused to listen to anymore Miku out of principle, then it'd count as a substantial drop in views for Miku despite the fanbase in its entirety remaining the same.

There's no reason to disagree with Miku being the most popular by far, I'm even a Mikufag myself, but without an exact datapoint we can't really predict whether the fanbase is declining or not.

>>16909582
Wouldn't a sum of yearly scores prove that?

>>16909582
You're definitely right, but i'm just trying to refute that the actual fanbase itself is growing. I mean you stated 300,000 fans, but we are getting like 600k views from a couple million views. And that's not even accounting for the fact that miku receives the most marketing and always had the largest fanbase.

Not incredibly unpopular, but a pretty good tune.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30519579

Gross points per 10-weeks

>>16909695
Not very good news. Still, there's no saying that it won't come back into popularity at some point. There are many people out there, especially westerners, who are nostalgic for vocaloid. Untapped potential.
Also, Len gets a surprisingly low # of points for how popular he is.

>>16909695
Keep in mind that NicoNico is dying as well.

>>16909748
We can hope, but it's just unlikely statistically.

Really disappointed because that chart legitimately proves the decline without opinion.

>>16909781
An interesting point.
Can you name some producers who stopped using Nico and switched to something else?

>>16909695
Why would they color code this in the most confusing way possible?

>>16909793
No, why would anyone do it?

>>16909695
Don't worry guys, the Chinese will save us.

>>16909695
I think the true potential about the future of Vocaloid lies in the western fanbase.

For example, the most popular CircusP songs from last year already have 2m views: https://www.youtube.com/user/VocaCircus/videos

googoo888 rips from the PDArcade also gets a lot of views.

And probably a lot of those fans from the western fanbase don't go to NicoNico to find new songs.

>>16909816
This is definitely true. It's funny because 2m views is nothing on youtube in comparison. Perhaps we should start uploading songs on channels ourselves to increase the viewer base.

>>16909806
They might have to ditch NicoNico entirely if they want to reach out to the western audiences.

Just compare Lamaze's views on Nico to the ones on Descentsubs, while it's not terrible they're not close to millions.

>>16909806
"Nico is dying" would be an argument if there were some statistics about producers moving over (to Youtube for example)and thus lowering the Weekly Rankings total points.

Although if some producers upload to both sites, the Youtube views/comments wouldn't be calculated, meaning a loss in the Nico points.

BTW here is a link to the Mikudb discord for anyone who wants to join, not advertising or anything, but for those of you who don't know Mikudb is basically a huge website dedicated to downloading and uploading vocaloid songs.

https://discord.gg/nnmGzrj

Why doesn't 4chan have nico embedding yet?

>>16909835
Not every producer starts on NicoNico. Also new producers appear and the old ones go away, not every one of them has to start on NicoNico and then consider to move somewhere else.
Abandoning NicoNico is not the only way to make the website lose users and share in music uploads.

>>16909868
I suppose that's also true.
If only there was a way to track Vocaloid song popularity on Youtube...

>>16909868
>>16909828
Why do western producers not upload their songs to nico? I know CrusherP did, and ECHO got insanely popular, but it seems like not all of them do.

>>16909841
>pirate site asking me kindly to turn off adblock to support them
I laugh everytime I go on Mikudb.

>>16909884
>a way to track Vocaloid song popularity on Youtube
Agreed, a way to aggregate YT views would be very useful.

Honestly a few of us should start youtube channels and upload a few songs a week.

>>16909935
This would be bad because it would detract views from the original videos. Reprints don't support the original uploader. A twitter or tumblr account that posted to links to the official uploads would be more useful, I think.

>>16909935
I'm pretty cynical and I believe, despite our best efforts, that we'd make no damn difference.

>>16909944
Maybe. But we could possibly make a difference. And an attempt is infinitely better than doing nothing.

>>16909943
Well, a lot of reprints on youtube are in Japanese, and therefore english viewers don't usually see them. We just need to translate the titles and link to the original videos, and preferably link to less popular songs that aren't already posted on youtube. This would overall increase the availability of vocaloid,

>>16909952
Hell, i'm gonna do it. I don't have anything better to do anyway.

>>16909952
>>16909961
Aren't we being a little too naive here?

Miku
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30521018

Meiko
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31084843
I don't like her voice much, but this song is pretty well produced.

>>16910026
Meiko just sounds like trash. I've never heard a song with her that's good.

>>16909952
A lot of people don't like it if you reupload their work.
Some of them even put it at the start of the video

post obscure memes
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30305778

>>16909503
I like nekobolo, thanks for sharing

>>16905455
>>16905535
You sure you can apply more than once? I only got one confirmation email. Did you use different phone numbers or credit cards, or all the same information m

>>16910194
Don't spook me man, I applied for all of them and didn't get a single confirmation email.

>>16908443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVr4-qZC6YM

From this month.

Not exactly branching out for kikuo himself, but nobody else really sounds like kikuo.

>>16910201
Maybe it depends on when you applied? I did my first application right at 12:01, but then my other applications were on Sunday. Maybe they'll process sometime today, like they're closed on Sunday?
Anyone get multiple confirmation emails?

Anybody know Note@l-tone? pretty decent, his style ranges from some outlandish trippy electronica to an abbreviation of nu-rock, I guess? He can't seem to stick to a style, but sort of created his own in the process, almost like Gorillaz. He's not totally obscure, but isn't quite making it either, give it a shot if you're in the mood.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22144370
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24557987
And an album exclusive
https://my.mixtape.moe/ubmsjz.m4a

He's a Kagamine producer, but I'm mostly here for the Miku. If you like Kagamine, Len in particular, check his other stuff.

>>16910284
note is definitely pretty good! I really like the way he tunes Len:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Ud-Fauuak

>>16910284
I hadn't heard of him before, thanks for sharing! That song 願うなら is really nice.

>come across nice song in recent rankings
>oh, maybe things aren't looking so bad
>open video page
>uploaded: 2013

>>16910236
I hope so.

Guess I'll just have to put my faith in the not-at-all faulty japanese coding and pray to whomever that it didn't fuck it all up.

>>16903152
>>16903159
Oh man this is some special trash. I love it, I want more of it.

New Thread >>16909920

>>16902994
i delete all utaite albums
i set all utaite songs in my library to skip

>>16896198
Miku as a concept of "virtual idol" is still strong, since the otakus who appreciate her for that are incredible faithful to her and diligent to their "hobby".
Music-wise, however, Miku and vocaloid in general have lost and are still losing popularity, as you can see by the low number of views that most songs get, the high number of popular producers who quitted, and the low number of popular newcomer producers (I can only think of Nayutalian, and he isn't even that new).

>>16897309
I like how 40mP songs are always consistently good, even if I don't like some particular songs. This song is great, btw.

>>16901552
Probably Black Rock Shooter or World is Mine, I'm not sure. The two things that got me into vocaloid were the 39's Thanks Giving Day Concert and the Black Rock Shooter OVA, but I don't remember which I saw first.

>>16917415
Some say the otakus have moved on, which would explain the huge loss in views... and other things.