/jp/ - Otaku Culture

about as unattractive as we are

>>1685301
word need more of them?

>>1685315
/thread

The only kind of woman I could truly love.

Even the most ugly ones aren't virgins

>>1685360
Why did people save that?

This picture is pretty much it in a nutshell.

>>1685317
More like your word needs more letters, yes?

>>1685360
I pointed this out the other day.

What a slut....

>>1685376
fujoshi who don't know they are fujoshi are the most acceptable

>>1685383

How do you know it's not her brother or something?

>>1685387
engagement ring

>>1685383
I had to pull up the picture's brightness to see it.

Cool screen you have, bro.

>>1685387
If it were her brother she wouldn't' be in his room, not would she be taking a picture of herself with a timestamp in his room.

The only rational explanation is that that guy is one of more than 4 men she has slept with.

>>1685388
Is that really an engagement ring? She looks late teens. Plus is that even the engagement ring finger?

>>1685392
Her dad is supposed to be another

>>1685395
Yes, it is the engagement ring finger

I'd say she was about 20, maybe early 20s

Women get engaged more than twice as often as they get married

>>1685397
She never mentioned who abused her, so we don't know that. I don't understand how she went from talking about how disgusting it was for her to camwhoring so quickly though.

>>1685405
Maybe you are right.

But personally I think only girls who have slept with less than 3 men should be allowed to wear white on their wedding day.

>>1685412
>But personally I think only girls who have slept with less than 3 men should be allowed to wear white on their wedding day.
I think only virgins should. And I'd certainly never go near a "used" girl.

but then, I don't really believe in marriage

>>1685409
>I don't understand how she went from talking about how disgusting it was for her to camwhoring so quickly though.
There's nothing to understand

females aren't complicated

WAAAAH I WAS ABUSED PAY ATTENTION TO ME
WAAAAH HERE'S A PICTURE PAY ATTENTION TO ME
WAAAAH LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME PAY ATTENTION WAAAAH

>>1685409
Shes a woman whats there to understand.

>>1685388
Not the right finger, idiot.

Also, can you not stop spreading this picture around? I do not think that the person in it feels too good about it.

>>1685409
I'm sure she did.

Either way, the camwhore abuse was about 5 posts before everyone forgot and started arguing about whatever else.

In fact, only 8 people directly quoted her. Then people like Spiral Sage of Hate kept on talking about whatever, someone mentioned VHS, Freud was mentioned and the thread died.

im a woman i dont have a penis if you dont pay attention to me i'm going to post this 10 times in 9 different topics

>>1685417
LOL.

I know you are the girl in that pic.

>>1685417
QUIET WHORE
>not the right finger
Obviously they only call it the ring finger because that's the old Latin for 'chubby' right?

>>1685416

Godammit Croatia I love you and your non-existent grammar.

>>1685424
Oh wait

>I was raped as a child. I know its no fucking cakewalk. I still have nightmares, I can still feel being touched, and I still dry heave about it. Now tell me that Im just an abnormality and that other girls wouldnt feel that way?

No she didn't. My bad.

pig disgusting

>>1685417
Yes it is you stupid...wait...that's YOU isn't it?

HAHAHAA

Go on then, who is it in the picture? Has he had his dick in you? Did his seed ooze out of your pussy, mouth or asshole?

>>1685420
Way too harsh.

>>1685424
o/

camwhore drama? in MY /jp/?

what the fucking hell

>>1685433
Hey my friend, no need for that kind of language around here.

But I'd be interested in knowing too.

>>1685430

If she was raped as a child then why does she sleep around today?

>>1685434
I guess that's why I'm not king of the world

>>1685429
His grammar is actually getting worse, which doesn't make much sense, isn't he supposed to be improving?

>>1685441
To get back at daddy

Feminism is a parasite which feeds exponentially until there is nothing left in a society to consume...it then moves on to the next society prosperous enough to host it. So the first thing I would do is establish the oppression of women. I say "establish" instead of "reestablish" because women were never truly oppressed: gender roles were assigned by a division of labor based on our natural capabilities. If men truly ruled supreme with no force to stop him, the oppression of women would look something like what I would propose as "supreme dictator." It would begin as follows:

The entire gender is outlawed. None of this 'shackles of marriage' nonsense, I'm talking actual steel shackles. All females of all ages would be systematically herded and divided by attractiveness. The ugly would be exterminated, the large would be given hysterectomies and used for labor, and the attractive would satisfy the sexual needs of the worlds men. So that's no more sickly women, no more men dying doing dangerous jobs, and virtually free sex with any woman you wanted through an international registry of brothels. Some of these women would bear children: boys given to willing fathers, girls kept by the state. Traps would be used for those men still wanting relationships and would be given special rights and privileges to promote their lifestyle. During this time of worldwide birth control, scientists would be working on an artificial womb. Once completed, the attractive women would be given hysterectomies and released to the custody of men. The ugly/large women performing dangerous jobs would have no rights and would have to defer to any male, free to be used in any manner he sees fit that does not affect her productivity. The attractive women would be sole property of whichever man owned her, deferring to him, free to be used in any manner he saw fit. There would be a steady supply of women 'released into the wild.'

Now that the problem of women has been solved, giving men more free time and a generally more pleasurable and quiet life free to pursue their own interests, I would then move on to culling the herd. We have far too many people and the human race needs to be allowed to perfect itself. I would have to create a form of artificial Darwinism to unnaturally select the members of the species that would be a benefit. It wouldn't be based on race or size, but intelligence. Everyone would have to register with the state taking a series of IQ and personality test. The unintelligent would be exterminated. Of course, anyone who interfered with this new evolution of the human race would be exterminated. My armies would roam every countryside going door to door to purify our species. Furthermore, the punishment of any crime would be punishable by death. All prisons would be demolished with the prisoners still inside, innocent or not. All of the different court systems would also be demolished. A new law of common sense would reign, handed out by the most logical of judges as determined by the tests my psychologists have come up with. The punishment of all crime would be death, from murder to serial rudeness. Yes, rudeness. There will be a strict code of etiquette in the new order. Once we've gotten rid of the dregs (criminals and impolite), we could reform the governments. There would be no need for multiple currencies or different forms of government, so the economic, executive and legislative systems of all countries would be dissolved and rewritten under one worldwide government.

>>1685425
Yes, you do, do you not? Well, I am not this person.

Anyhow, can you guys grow up? Have some human decency, okay? Just because you can spread all kinds of personal information and pictures in the internet does not mean you should.

And honestly, about this virginal misogynist. It's pretty sad.

>>1685448
Why do women do this? They sleep around after they break up to 'get back' at their boyfriend too.

What sense does it make?

It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

>>1685454
Why do the ears look liek PIG ears?

>>1685452
Whores deserve no respect, if she's slept around with more than 4 men then she should fuck off.

>>1685454
If you look at that girl in other pics she looks quite slutty.

>>1685453
Women don't act rationally, they act emotionally

Ever try to argue with a woman? It's frustrating as hell, they ignore all facts and base their entire argument on emotion and challenging you to remember things, trivial things, that you know happened but can't place a date on.

And so they "win".

>>1685449
>>1685450
This proclamation dubbed "The Treaty of athens(sic)" was known as one of history's greatest wrongs, giving rise to one of our most educational periods in failed social engineering.

>>1685462
I dunno about that, all I know is that what athens said about women not being ronery is pretty true if even used goods like her can sleep around.

This thread will have at least 130 posts...

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/12122/comic-diagram-fujoshi-glasses-hard_translated-pant

Superior version.

>>1685450

What are you doing here Gilgamesh

This sure is a great thread, yes?

>>1685470
There are others in which she is wearing skimpy clothing and with her boyfriend (a scenefaggot).

>>1685457
pig disgusting ears

>>1685491
that's your own damn fault for "loving" a camwhore

idiot

>>1685492
I agree, a girl that posts pictures on 4chan is not the kind of girl you want to be with.

>>1685491
Sorry dude, but you know as well as I do that nerdy girls who are good looking are often whores.

>>1685496
>are always whores.
fix'd that for you brah

>>1685499
Not always, just mostly.

So have we reached a conclusion on whether women can be lonely?

>>1685465
athens hasn't even posted in this thread...

>>1685509
women write awful fanfiction, what the fuck do you think?

clearly, you weren't thinking.

>>1685512
>women write awful fanfiction

What does that have to do with whether they can be lonely or not?

>>1685509
No it's impossible.

>>1685514
i'm not sure how you're missing the connection

>>1685518
I am regardless, elaborate.

>>1685523
>If they're socially awkward and aren't willing to lower their standards, sure.

The man comes to the woman so it doesn't really matter how socially awkward she is.

>>1685514
That's precisely why they're lonely. They'd rather construct fictional stories for fictional characters rather than do anything good out of their lives.

>>1685527
They still have boyfriends.

>>1685514
Those who write them are usually shit fail writers too scared to attempt original fiction. They totally and utterly fail.

>>1685520
fanfiction = fantasizing

in different cases they're either fantasizing about having friends or sex, or a combination of the two, generally with the use of self-insertion in their stories

I don't mind being friends with one, I need friends ;_;

>>1685520
is a fanfiction-writing girl.

>>1685534
I'd say most women who write fanfiction have slept with a guy before they were 20.

>>1685537
70% of statistics are made up.

>>1685540
Women can't be lonely.

>>1685543
Nor can men.

>>1685544
I know you are a woman.

Women can't be lonely.

Just in case.

>>1685544
I am confused.

>>1685383
What is this picture even pointing out?

Athens doesn't bother me

It's the people who mention him all the fucking time that bother me

Yes, I admit my statement is ironic, but it is necessary.

Stop caring about tripfags.

>>1685564

I'm constantly alone, yet I never feel lonely.

You people must be weak. Why would you want to be around others?

>>1685555
You stole my role!

Women slaves... that's /jp/ for you...

>>1685569
>>1685571
Oh I sort of see it now. Too much glare before. Also I wish /jp/ was a little more popular so there would at least be some fan art for femanonofjp or at the very least a slight edit to make her mimic the reported.jpg picture.

Sup guys.

1) On the subject of women being lonely or not.

Some can, some can't. But the ratio of ronery women for ronery men is 1:1000000.

And ronery women dont want ronery men beecause ronery men have no confidence anyway, so it's one sided affection.

>>1685582
>the ratio of ronery women for ronery men is 1:1000000.
SCIENCE!

all female virgins over the age of 20 are MONSTROUSLY obese

or

fundie christians with rrrrrrrrrreeeeaaaaally strict parents

The only true path is getting a fundie christian girl who is mad at her parents to fall in love with you, and then elope.

>>1685572
Only time I feel lonely is when I play a VN or some romantic animu but i agree most of the time i dont feel lonely. When i just think of the trouble and shit i'd have to go through to have a girlfriend i'd rather not.

2) As for fujoshi, they are ok.

3) On the subject of nerdy girls, a lot are pretty slutty. But this is mainly cosplayers and gamer girls.

>>1685568
JONES IS A NEGRO, RUSSIA IS A PEDO, COLOMBIA IS AN ATTENTION WHORE WHO'S E-DATING ANOTHER TRIPFAG, KORDOX HAS THREE DOLLS, SION IS A WHINY MELTAN PLAYER WHO RAGEQUIT AND IS NOW PLAYING STREET FIGHTER, TATARI IS A HARDCORE MELTAN PLAYER, CROATIA CAN'T SPELL, ZUN!bar IS AN EXPERT SHOOTER PLAYER AND ELITIST MUSIC TROLL, THE OTHER ZUN IS JAPANESE, HONG MEILING IS THE GOD OF DOUJINSHI, REMILIA IS A GUY PRETENDING TO BE A GIRL, AYA HIRANO FAN OVERUSES THE UNICODE CHARACTER FOR HEART, CURRYBUTT IS SHITTY, HATSUNE MIKU NEEDS TO GB2RIZON.

tripfags <3333

>>1685588
Well a female can be a slut and a virgin not taking in the pussy dosent mean she didnt do 100 blowjobs and anal.

>>1685588
Not all are. It's just easier for a guy to fall through the gaps because a guy can be slim and average looking and still be lonely, but the same is much, much rarer for girls.

>>1685599
This is true.

The main problem I have with *perfect girls* is that I'm not the only one who sees their perfection

By the time they're...say...20... they've already had more dicks in them than pedophile in an Alabama jail

>>1685608
Probably this, but the real perfect girls cant be actually seen, only by chance if you stumble upon one.

>>1685608
Well yeah, that's the point that's been made many times.

It's basically like this: Shy and quiet aren''t bad properties for a girl to possess, in fact, for many many people, this makes said girl more attractive.

So they are 'in demand' much more than guys with those traits are, because those traits are unattractive for guys.

I dont have a problem with this, but it highlights the biological differences between men and women so posturing at equality is absurd.

Fujoshi?

As long as she's not as big as a semitrailer and not as ugly as fuck, that's worth a shot. The fact that she can understand your otaku terminology is also an added bonus.

I can't help but laugh at threads like these

Guys like you need to lower your standards, all this talk of only wanting virginal innocent girls is bullshit, you're just bitter that everyone else is getting lots of wonderful sex while you're alone in the dark rubbing your tiny virginal cock and crying.

There are plenty of "pig disgusting" girls out there for you. Don't expect to get the best looking, smartest, kindest girl with the biggest boobs, because she's with a guy who is faster, smarter, more charming and more good looking than you.

>>1685625
lol, woman spotted.

>>1685625
Laughed but lol @ including "faster" in there.

"Damnit i'm a smart and attractive and charming...if only I could run faster...."

>>1685625
>biggest boobs

If you seriously expect anyone to desire this in /jp/ than you have to be some type of newfag

>>1685625
>Don't expect to get the best looking, smartest, kindest girl with the biggest boobs

We don't expect that, we just don't want a girl who has slept around.

>>1685631
Lowering your standards doesn't mean "fuck everything you can"

it just means stop obsessing over stupid shit, and appreciate girls who are overlooked, maybe she's got brown teeth, or maybe her hair smells like cat piss, but she needs love too. There's something to appreciate in everyone.

>>1685625
inb4 shitstorm

>>1685625
>all this talk of only wanting virginal innocent girls is bullshit
We just want girls like us, virgins.
>with the biggest boobs
This is so irrelevant...

also when trolling please be a little more NOT SUPER OBVIOUS.

>>There are plenty of "pig disgusting" girls out there for you.
no thanks. my right hand's better looking, and probably smarter too.

[ ] Female
[ ] Weeabo
[ ] Attractive
[ ] Somewhat mentally stable
[ ] Not a slut

Choose three.

>>1685645
>it just means stop obsessing over stupid shit

Stating you don't want a girl who has slept with more than 4 men isn't stupid shit.

>>1685653
Obviously, I'll have to go for men.

>>1685653
fuck i cant

>>1685659
>more than 4 men

lol.

>>1685631
that was the point he was making: you need to learn to see the attraction in girls who aren't "perfect".

why /jp/, why?

>>1685661
me too :(

>>1685664
What's your problem?

Listen to Grieg - be lonely.

Also, someone date femanonofjp

I dunno if I count as a "fujoshi" but I certainly don't sleep around. I have only had 2 boyfriends, and I didn't even sleep with my first one (I think that's why he left me tbh)

I moved away for college so I left all my friends behind. The only people I hang out with are my classmates, but I still prefer to spend time alone, posting on /jp/ or /a/, listening to jpop or drawing.

Is it a crime to be notugly and to have friends?

Seriously, you guys make out like all girls are out to get you.

I'm a virgin but innocence is something friends would never use to describe me. Which is rather strange because my name roughly translated basically means innocence.
I stay a virgin because I have a phobia that one day, I'll meet the perfect guy and I'll fall madly in love with him. But there's a catch, he's bad at sex and has a small penis. I fear that I'll start comparing him to past lovers and end up resenting him because he cannot compare to my past partners. So, I'd figured if I stayed a virgin until I meet him I'll never have to worry if he's bad at sex. Because I have no prior experience to compare him to.

Man, the Greek, you see I'm a drop out history student, but he is more of an failure as a student and likewise as a person than me. And greatly so.

Such lonely sad person, yes? More like pitiful scared loser, correct? Crow a pair of testes. You eunuch.

I know two actual fujoshi - they both have a lot in common, terribly.

They're both pretty attractive, but could make more out of it (something like a raw gem that needs to be cut and polished to shine and sparkle). They're both heavily into Yaoi and substitute any sort of love life with their affections for 2D Characters. They're both lazy and hard to reach.

>>1685673
Lies! The oldest female virgin ever was 14.

>>1685675
Youtube "yaoi fangirls" for laughter.

>>1685672
You have friends, therefore not fujoshi.

>>1685675
I guarantee you that, between them, they've sucked at least 100 dicks

>>1685672
Nobody said you all sleep around though, it's more a matter that you can't be lonely. I mean, you have had 2 boyfriends for example.

Come on guys your going to get over my 140 post prediction...

>>1685625
Not sure what everyone else has been looking for (if they've been looking at all), but finding a woman with intelligence and gravitas is difficult, even at a college surrounded by thousands of other people. Perhaps it's because the venues in which people of that age usually meet tend to attract human detritus, but yes, even if your standards only apply to platonic or behavioral qualities, meeting a good woman is rare indeed.

I can't imagine how much harder it must be for someone who wants physical qualities or personality traits in conjunction with these.

I don't know anymore...

*shakes head*

*drinks more bourbon*

worst female ever

Seriously

The teenage years are garbage

>>1685672
>Seriously, you guys make out like all girls are out to get you.
They are! They're all agents of the NHK!

My girlfriend's sucked 37 dicks

At least you guys can find stuff like camwhores and shit, here in croatia a woman that knows about the internet is RARE. Well i mean really knows not just FACEBOOK and MSN. And fujoshi lol i dont know any...

Also this is me, just saying.

>>1685672

There is a big chasm of diference between us. The mere fact you've had relationships proves that.

>>1685714
lol, you wish you were that attractive

what is it with all females having laptops?

Innocent virginal girls. You'll never find an innocent girl who does not live in a third world country thanks to the www. As for virginal, women will only stay virgins if they are extremely fat and unattractive.

>>1685722
Because i'm a true ~*fujoshi*~ and I can take my laptop to bed with me, duh.

>>1685722
More girly i guess.

>>1685672
it's a crime not to be a virgin

>>1685725
I think when they speak of innocence, they mean undeceitful or unmaniuplative as opposed to being naive.

>>1685731
No you're not

Do you own a phone with the names of your friends?
Do you use a facebook or myspace page?
Do you go out with your friends, get drunk and "have a laugh" on a regular baiss?

If you answered yes to any of these questions, you are a whore in /jp/'s eyes

>>1685722
I'm a man and I have a laptop because I haven't spent more than six consecutive nights in the same place in three years.

>>1685585
The girl in the pic with the timestamp isn't femanon of jp.

Femanon of jp is a virgin.

That girl is a slut.

>>1685712
Obligatory 'at the same time?'

>>1685735
>it's a crime to swallow dicks with your genitals and mouth to make obnoxious cancerous boys like you
pretty much

>>1685706
>deal breaker flaws

this is your problem. Every flaw can't be a deal breaker if you want to go 3D. Consider how many flaws you have, and then be willing to overlook at least as many in women (and other people in general).

>>1685733
I must be pretty fucking girly then, I'm playing Gears 2 while typing on my laptop.

>>1685725
>You'll never find an innocent girl who does not live in a third world country thanks to the www
You'll probably find more virgins in the first world then here since here people sex more since everyone has a "LIFE"

>>1685743
>Femanon of jp is a virgin.
actually she's a dutch guy named sven
we play TF2 on the same server sometimes

>>1685746
>a "LIFE"
Damn, I almost forgot, I've been meaning to get me one of those

People are always saying I need to get one

1685701 here.

I haven't found a girl who understands what I say yet. 'Nuff said.

>>1685725
There's ONE Innocent virginal girls who does not live in a 3rd world country. I know her since she's 12-13 and I'm sure she won't sleep with a guy before the mariage.(and if she do it I'll just have to take her and the guy in my wonderful killing chamber.

>>1685737
Phone, yes but no house phone
Myspace / Facebook, nope
Go out on a regular 'baiss' nope

>>1685736
Naivety is undesirable anyway, girls and naivety is a bad mix. They tend to run off with the first person to say the word 'love'.

>>1685743
I know it's not trip femanon of jp but there's nothing else to call her.

>>1685752
wow, just how much do you weight?

>>1685752
Girl, nope

Why are you even answering?

>>1685752
wow, just how much do you weigh?

I'm not being funny or anything, but to me you are a new species.

FUCK YEAH TRIPFAG ORGY

>>1685746
We all have lives, bro. Just because you don't consider our lifestyle as acceptable doesn't mean you should look down upon it.

>>1685747
>actually she's a dutch guy named sven
>dutch
>sven

That's not a Dutch name you fool.

>>1685749
Fuck off, we've already lowered our standards enough.

No more, we hold the line as far as sluttiness goes.

>>1685756
>Considering recent games play just fine on laptops nowaday
No they dont.

>>1685763
>That's not a Dutch name you fool.
You've clearly never been to The Netherlands
Or met many people from The Netherlands
Or read any books, watched any films etc. etc. you poor sheltered boy

>>1685755
She doesn't need a name. She's just some random slut.

>>1685766
>We all have lives
HAHA OH WOW

>>1685753
Naivety coming from someone who focuses in Roman Empire studies. Such joke.

Next thing he claims is that the historic era has some real significance in relation to today world.

>>1685756
Since that way you can use a computer that's 4-5 years old and not have any troubles.

>>1685760
>>1685759
Why do people only respond to my "it's me" posts when the picture is of a girl, damnit.

This trip is ponpo by the way, incase you missed the thread where I announced / changed my name half walk through it.

LOL, some people use laptops as their main machine.

I feel for you, truly I do.

>>1685756
ENJOY UR INFERIOR PIECE OF SHIT PAPER WEIGHT THAT IS HARDLY UPGRADABLE AND HAS SHITTY FPS IN ANY CURRENT GAMES

>>1685775
Played Crysis recently?

>>1685707
I highly support this graph.

>>1685788
While certainly not at the highest settings, I played Crysis fairly well on my Macbook Pro of all things.

Oh hi /jp/,

I'm barely over 18, Asian, attractive(I think), not fat, and did I mention I'm a virgin? And when I say virgin I mean, I have not partaken in any sort of sexual action like oral sex. And since I posted here I think it's safe to assume I share a few common interests with you.

So /jp/, Have I fit into your ideals of how a woman should be?

>>1685782
My 4 year old laptop runs insurgency fine, and it's pretty much the only modern graphics intensive game I play.
It's not like we're in /v/, people here play touhou, melty blood and VN, not Crysis 2.

>>1685788
First-person shooters don't count as games.

>>1685798
You have a fatal flaw.
You have depth.

>>1685786
Well I focus on Roman provincial administration if you really want to know, even less relevant.

>>1685781
Why did you change it?

>>1685775
Theres no mid range good graphics on laptop like 8800/9800 GT or HD 4850. Well there is but they cost 10 times more then desktop versions.

>>1685765
JONES IS A NEGRO, RUSSIA IS A PEDO AND EXPERT PROGRAMMER, COLOMBIA IS AN ATTENTION WHORE WHO'S E-DATING ANOTHER TRIPFAG, KORDOX HAS THREE DOLLS, SION IS A WHINY MELTAN PLAYER WHO RAGEQUIT AND IS NOW PLAYING STREET FIGHTER, TATARI IS A HARDCORE MELTAN PLAYER, CROATIA CAN'T SPELL, ZUN!bar IS AN EXPERT SHOOTER PLAYER AND ELITIST MUSIC TROLL, THE OTHER ZUN IS JAPANESE, HONG MEILING IS THE GOD OF DOUJINSHI, REMILIA IS A GUY PRETENDING TO BE A GIRL, KLEIN IS ANOTHER GUY PRETENDING TO BE A GIRL, AYA HIRANO FAN OVERUSES THE UNICODE CHARACTER FOR HEART, CURRYBUTT IS SHITTY, HATSUNE MIKU NEEDS TO GB2RIZON, EKSOPL IS BSS STAFF AND RUNS THE JP ARCHIVE, SPIRAL SAGE OF HATE ALWAYS FILLS IN THE EMAIL FIELD AND HAS A HARDON FOR CRUISE CONTROL, ATHENS HATES WOMEN, CIRNO NEVER SLEEPS AND NO ONE HAS SEEN HIM FOR MONTHS.

tripfags <3333

>>1685798
no because you have a (small) penis

>>1685797
>my Macbook Pro
you don't get to have an opinion

>>1685788
I have a desktop and a laptop anyway. And I haven't even played Crysis, it's an overhyped tech demo.

>>1685802
No reason really. Like I said it was midway through a thread haha.

>>1685804
As if ponpo aka me doesn't get one.

>>1685804
I'm happy I'm not in that list.

>>1685800
No... you just haven't played any real games yet.