/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>16810675
Is it closer to Natsuzora or more like the two games released after that? Natsuzora was pretty great.

Same.

If you want a shitty self insert go all the way, nameable, no eyes, no voice, many choices and generic good guy personality.

If your MC has a name then give him eyes, pretty sure people would SI easier with a MC having their name than having no eyes which makes them creepy.

Stop hiding their eyes during sex scenes while you are at it.

>>16810694
Closer to yorino, which was an actual story game and not a nukige.

>>16810786
>nukige

4 H scenes per heroine hardly counts as nukige.

Just wanted to say if the guy from last thread finds a C;C vita download, go ahead and link it here.

>>16810820
That was me. China only has a 500mb demo and not the full game. I'm pretty sure it hasn't been uploaded yet

>>16810786
What mostly made Yorino for me was the main heroine. Is there a similar heroine in Trinoline? If so, consider me sold.

Finish this, I feel like I've experienced the ultimate kind of キモウト

Finishing this, and I feel like I've experienced the ultimate kind of キモウト

Does C;C LCC add anything to the story? I'm going to get it someday, don't know if i should prioritize it though.

>>16812114
it's not that important but it does take place after the true route

>>16812114
No, it's a mess that people who actually liked the main game should ignore.
It seems like the Children's Revive light novel gets a lot of positive reception as an epilogue kind of thing, might be worth checking out.

>>16812114
do you like Hana route?

Nekonade Distortion help.

I played the original years ago. I played Gizmo's route and about tore my computer screen in half with my bare hands. The ending pissed me off so goddamned bad. You don't find the perfect girlfriend you'll ever find then say 'oh this isn't real, I need to go back to reality' leave your perfect girlfriend forever and find a way to go back home. I don't care if he found some random idol that looked like Gizmo I was so fucking pissed. I never even went back to play the other routes, I couldn't do it.

Should I play the sequel? I need to know if he goes back to find the real Gizmo. I need to know he never left her in that world. I need to know wishes on a shooting star can come true in this world. Or is it going to be 'lol, Gizmo's gone enjoy some bitch that looks like her'

Goddamn I loved that silly cat.

>>16812126
If thats the case then which appearance of Senri do we get? The original Senri or the Nono form? Both are fine but im more partial to the original.

So is Trinoline actually good then? The synopsis makes me roll my eyes but it seems like it got pretty decent reception.

>>16812940
No

Tell me which one to play.

>>16812237
The fuck, is this that amazing?

>>16810815
The routes are barely an hour long without them though, aside from the main heroine where you fuck Ai yet again.

>>16812978
Daitoshokan is probably the best there
Giniro is probably the worst one there
Read Daito if you're looking for a good game, read Soreyori if sex is what's on your mind.

>>16804990
My problem is I don't really know much japanese memes and culture. I'd prefer them in English for stuff like in jokes like that but I guess I'd read then in Japanese if I can.

Hi I know most of you may have tried Danganronpa and found it abysmal myself included.

However the sequels do a much better job and are amazing, I was blown away o
compared to how tame the first game was. I recommend trying it.

That being said the spin offs and anime are garbage.

How would you rate the difficulty of Hitotsu Tobashi Ren'ai?

>>16813312
It's raw, constant comedy so if you don't know Japanese well you won't like it because you will be dissecting the frog so to speak every single line.

>>16813317

Thanks, going to try keep reading it as my un-translated VN to try pick up some vocabulary, the music and art so far is great.

>>16813092
7 out of 10 I guess. The writing tries real hard. It's not bad. It's about family and what it means to be family and about staying true to your family.

... by fucking your younger sister, your older sister, your mother, or your cat. The only non incest route (if you consider the cat as family) is the next door neighbor. It's cute but don't get your hopes up. It seems to have a fan following that keeps them making more. You might like it, who knows?

>>16810458
Image source please.

>>16810458
>だった
clever

>>16813092
>>16813341
Nekonade is philosophy 101
Subahibi is a graduate course

If you played Subahibi first you will probably hate Nekonade, unless you are desperate for cute girls with philosophy.

>>16813350
Kurai Nichiyoubi

So yeah, Koinosu really turns into almost sex-only past a certain point. Really reminds me of the cation series. Though the ero is definitely less typical vanilla. And no dating-sim elements I suppose.

Can someone who played Trinoline spoil me? Is the terminal illness girl going to die in her route? She's cute but I don't want to play her route if she just end up dead.

Can anyone recommend me some decent game where I can make love to Nanjou Yoshino? Preferably with some plot.

Censored for 3d

>>16814226
Higher Highspeed Genius is very good and she's a main character there.

>>16814231
Thanks anon I'll check it out!

>>16813299
I will never read anything with character designs looking this retarded

BL C;C spin off will never happen. Kill me.

>>16814618

No doujinshi?

>>16814618
>>16814674
I will never get my own Hinae
kill me

>>16814707
I'd read BL for her all day while she and her friends step on my erect ice candy.

>>16814717

I hope you have the voice.

>>16814717
I'd let her read Cool Cat Press to me all day

>>16813501
Subahibi is upper division undergrad, if we're being generous.

>>16814898
I thought most places don't teach the tractatus until graduate.

>>16813501
Eh, I didn't like Subahibi but I don't want to study philosophy. Nekonade Distortion was at least somewhat enjoyable. The loli mom was cute as hell since the night of shooting stars made her a kid again. I didn't like how she stuck with her husband when he started cheating on her but fucking your own son for emotional support is cute as hell.

I played all the routes in the original but never tried the sequel so I can't answer the original question. I agree the endings were upsetting.The mom realizes he's not from this world but doesn't want to let go. You spend a long time trying to say goodbye. The imouto knows she's been brought back to life by a wish and believes that her life with her brother is temporary.

What was the older sister's problem again? She wasn't pretty before the wish granting stars and I think I kind of remember she had no friends which is why on her route she wants a romantic relationship with her brother, can't remember anything else.

It's not a bad game if you want to avoid the headaches you get from more serious psychological dramas. But especially play it for the loli mom with the regenerating hymen that's a virgin every time he fucks her.

>>16814743
I want to rape Hinae!

Hot damn this art

>>16815065
>What was the older sister's problem again? She wasn't pretty before the wish granting stars and I think I kind of remember she had no friends which is why on her route she wants a romantic relationship with her brother, can't remember anything else.

That's completely wrong. Since the little sister died she began wearing flashy clothes and start going out with her friends till late at night, also she had bitchy attitude. After the star fell she went back to how she originally was.
her route had a philosophical view on eternity.
She is my favorite character.
If you are willing to read the sequel I advice you to read the two short fan disk before, they touched on a few nice topics of the original game.

Also what didn't you like about Subahibi?
Try Sakura no Uta next.

What Minori games do you recommend?

>>16815164
Haru no Ashioto
ef
Yorino

>>16815121
In my defense it's been a long time

Iam laughing too much at this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D4ODqzDkvv8
This is first time I see everyone going full red like an anime and eroge in real life.

>>16815254
>35 minutes
Pass

>>16815257
Start from 19:09 it's my favorite part.

>>16813501
>Nekonade is philosophy 101
>Subahibi is a graduate course

Why wouldn't you just read Beyond Good and Evil or The Republic, or Meditations and get real philosophy?

>>16815301
Because they aren't written by SCA-Ji, the best living writer? What a silly question.

>>16815307
I love SCA-Ji but I don't think he really understands Nietzsche or Kenji Miyazawa.

>>16815254
Why are people saying that LCC was being advertised as a "serious" spin off?

>>16815320
Leaving Nietzsche beside, are you telling me a gaijin understand Miyazawa more than a Japanese person?

>>16812940
Dumb people try to challenge everlasting android/human love subject. They add magical AIDS to all characters to increase drama effect. If you like that kind of story (early KEY), go for it.

>>16815365
The Lotus Sutra isn't exactly exclusive to the Japanese. While Miyazawa's writing are focused on the beauty of the natural landscape of Japan, and the feelings of "なつかしい" it's not what is important about his legacy. Arguably the most important lesson Miyazawa left us was the same one Diogenes left us. Live by your ideals, don't just preach them.

>>16815382
>Dumb people try to challenge everlasting android/human love subject.

You are kind of forgetting the question of consciousness and memories and what it means to be a person. If your body is killed but we make you a new one and implant your memories in it, is that still you?

>>16815402
Clearly those Miyazawa Diogenes faggots haven't read Fate.

理想を抱いて溺死しろ！

This is fucking cool
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YwegakK5TV0
I was hesitating at first, but I'll read ニュートンと林檎の樹 for sure
at the end of this month.

>>16814441
I was interested from the character designs.

However the cg is absolute garbage at best.

>>16815421
You have that mixed up. Miyazawa and Diogenes lived and died by their ideals.

hanasaki routes are so dull

>>16815086
I played one game by him and the art truly was fantastic. I just wish the story hadn't been so dull.

>>16814707
>>16814732
>>16814743
I don't know much about this girl but which game is she in?
CC?
CH?
Is there a ero-version of the game?

>>16815460
C;C
No, sadly

>>16815447
People who played the trial called it boring shit so my interest has vanished. Not like the company or writer inspired any hope with their previous game

>>16815452
But it has the best girl from any erogenous of that year.

>tfw stuck in a shirty game

>>16815412
Either way, they are doing it wrong. Even a simple adaptation of Dick's novels would result in characters that behave in a more or less believable manner.
Silkys tries to expand the same thing in
http://www.silkysplus.jp/game/apeiria/
Lets hope it turns out better.

>>16815473
>shirty game
We need more games with fashion and changeable clothes. What you wear that day can affect if a girl will talk to you or not.

>>16815473
*from any eroge
*shitty game
I hate auto-correct.

>>16815447
It it wasn't Newton, it would be someone else.

http://kai-soft.jp/MTS-WEB/index.html

Ban'ya game trial out

>>16815485
Should've gone back further

>>16815447
it was delayed

>>16815447
Fuck, this looks awesome.
I thought it was just a moege with Newton.
I love maths.

>That first and only comment
kek

>>16815532
Okay my bad, but I didn't know he was a physicist and astronomer too.

>>16815447
Looks like bait for pseudo intellectuals.

You've got to be joking, they charged full price for this?

https://vndb.org/v20379

Ugg, I had my hopes up after I read Yagai Gakushuu 3 but looks like my opinion of the company from that one instance was wrong.

Are Istoria's problems fixed with this patch?
Been waiting to play for a while.

>>16815598
Can you not read?

>>16815452
Same goes for the common route.

>>16815539
So what you're saying it's going to become the next 11/10 meme game?

>>16815402
Are you sure? Cause that seems like a conclusion someone who read a /jp/ post about Miyazawa's dying wish and his idea about literature would make.

>>16815609
I don't know to what extent it got fixed.
And I found it strange that there were no words of the patch coming out on the thread because I know there were some other people also waiting for the patch.

>>16815625
The first thing you should realize is that you're looking at Kamimaho's patch.

>>16815619
Like Sakura no Uta?

captcha: Carrer Newton

>>16815629
Oh what the fuck.
Why does the link to the homepage on vndb go straight to kamimaho's page.
Fuck, I feel dumb now.

What can you tell me about this game?

>>16815692
It has great romantic development between two likeable leads.
Neat plot too.

>>16815692
It's by Sakurai, if you've played a game of his, it's the same style. The biggest draw is the simplistic but poetic text that uses stylistic repetition a lot (a la Utena). Very good game overall.

>>16815714
>his
delete this

>>16815623
Exactly what part of my post is "like a conclusion someone who read a /jp/ post about Miyazawa's dying wish and his idea about literature would make."

>>16815086
Is this the Saekano vn?

>>16815738

Other game by same artist. Speaking of Saekano though, this gets it's second season soon. One of those shows where I feel you gotta be decently deep into VN/eroge and the industry to really have fun with. I was a bit surprised it gets another season. Especially because it doesn't really make such a great anime, with it being so heavy on dialogue. (it'd make a good eroge though... heh)

>>16815701
I love romance please tell me they don't do some self insert bullshit with the kissing where they remove the Mc's face/eyes during kissing and sex.

>>16815714
https://vndb.org/s4
I've never played them but was thinking of trying 赫炎のインガノック
Do they have to played in order?

>>16815086
I miss striped pantsu...

>>16815773
Nah, order doesn't matter. But all except Celenaria are good and they sometimes have nods to the other games, so you might as well play them in order starting from Inganock. It's also Sakurai's best game so you'll know whether he is for you or not.

Sakurai has the best h scenes in eroge imo. They actually fit into the plot. And the male protags are always very strong personalities voiced by Furukawa Tetsuto so you don't have to be worried about dumb self inserts.

>>16815773

Sakurai is female. Go figure the rest.

This is very unlike what you'd expect of typical eroge. Sometimes female pov ero (writing), generally frequently changing povs.. some of her games even have female protags altogether. And no, not otome-games.

>>16815808
okay thanks will try

>>16815823
>Sakurai is female.
This is a meme mate. There isn't actually any proof.

>>16815832

I don't need proof. If you read one of the works, it makes sense. That's what matters. So I have no reason to doubt it. Unless Sakurai says, that "he" is male "himself" and wants that to be acknowledged. If not: Female.

>>16815854
Sakurai is a guy, confirmed by another writer who know him.
He literally stopped tweeting after being outed as a guy

>>16815854
To be honest I think they are a train actually. It's what I got from reading their text and it makes perfect sense. Unless Sakurai outs himself otherwise I will be playing all his games while shouting Choo Choo every five seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc_7_zS8eZo

>>16815866

Right, I wouldn't be surprised by that either. It's why I wrote, that I consider Sakurai female unless Sakurai wants it otherwise.
I don't care about the body, or about some weird social shit regarding who writes the eroge. Not really important here. Honestly, trans writers may actually be the ones most capable of portraying both genders equally, as they kinda have "experience" with both. But this is a messy thing, that I don't want to go too deep into. All that matters in the end is enjoyment, and what I know of Sakurai is definitely worth reading, especially if one wants to go away from the typical eroge a bit.

>>16815915
Sakurai isn't a trans, it's just an act.
Heck he is most likely Haganeya aka the writer of Demonbane, it's pretty obvious if you look at their extremely similar style, active period and their relationship pre-outing

>>16815915
>trans writers may actually be the ones most capable of portraying both genders equally, as they kinda have "experience" with both
That's not how it works. If anything they'd have less of a chance portraying either because they're mentally damaged. Gender doesn't give you anything but superficial knowledge on a subject. A female can write better male characters than a guy and a guy can write better female characters than a girl. It doesn't really matter.
Anyhow the point was that it's weird you assume peoples gender because of their writing style. Males making shoujo manga or girly shit isn't anything new. Ikuhara is a male too. Saying
>Sakurai is female. Go figure the rest.
randomly like a fact without any proof when 99% of the writers in the industry are male based on some random theory you built up in your head is as dumb as you can possibly get.

Do you all listen to nightcore?

That's how I found many eroge.

>>16815808

Why is Celenaria bad? I read about an hour a few months ago and liked it a lot but haven't gone further yet.

>>16816086
Bad is probably a bit harsh, but it's the first game in the series and thus kind of rough around the edges. Definitely keep reading if you liked it.

>>16815473
I missed her birthday by one day

( ´△｀)

https://twitter.com/entergram_info/status/849200016841474049

>>16815832
(S)He was introduced as female in a magazine, and also totally talks like a female on Twitter and here
http://www.liar.co.jp/wp_kekka10.html

So while it's not proof, it's definitely the his/her intent.

>>16815863
If I remember the tweet correctly, it wasn't really confirming him/her as male but saying something among the lines of "People often mistake Sakurai's gender" which could mean anything. A lot of people also thought (s)he's male before this so you could interpret it the other way around too.

Also some someone leaked his/her private account, where (s)he supposedly talked like a male.
http://cwsontario.org/12557/
(S)He deleted the account after this.

But this guy argues the low credibility of the source of this claim.
https://twitter.com/shingi_kensho/status/810848933018734593/photo/1

Either way, if (s)he's actually male, doing it for strategic reasons sounds more plausible rather than just being trans.

>>16815940
>If anything they'd have less of a chance portraying either because they're mentally damaged.
You're implying two things here
1. Writers with psychological issues can't portray people properly, which couldn't be further from the truth
2. Identity disorder = Mental damage, which are completely different things

In the end in doesn't really matter.

https://twitter.com/sakuraiHbot

>見ていただきありがとうございます～！ 旧名称女性の振りで女性絵師に近づく桜井光bot
I laughed

What eroge can quench my throat for Lolis with catty tummy and soft skin?
Like pic related

>>16816238
*cute tummies

Talking about lolis, any lolige this year besides Tanuki Soft's?

>>16816238
https://vndb.org/v18694

It's really good, funny, great over and has naval kissing.

>>16816509
So which is the game that has the mom route patch? The first or second game?

Is there a link?

>>16816509
>navel kissing

>>16816673
forgot pic

>>16816255
I just know of chibipaiya
That came out last year it was pretty hot

>>16816570
The first one.

>>16815447
And yet the opening scene is literally a dude with a hand full of boobs.

>>16815539
Honestly I agree completely.

>>16816714
Do you know where can i download it?

>>16815692
My favorite part in Gahkthun was the surprise cucking.

Reallive

Sorry to ask. How do you get past this? I have forgotten

>>16817492
>forgotten
Don't lie, you. The instructions are written there. If it doesn't work get a crack.

>>16817492
Apologies, but my advice is far too elite to be wasted on such mundane eroge issues.

Anyone played Rewrite Quest?
Does anything change if you fight Midou alone instead of using your party in what I assume is one of the last dungeons?

>>16815598
Just play it anyway. It's real fucking good and I'm dying to talk about it to anyone but it seems most people have been scared off (justifiable but still). Drama's fantastic and the girls are lovely and I want to tell the MC he's a cool guy and he'll do alright for himself over a couple beers.

It's just pretty damn vicious when it comes to the whole 'you can only make 1/4 girls happy' thing.

>>16817855
Hadler said that Lucle said all he had to say in Unmei Yohou and seeing that picture makes me think he may be right, there was a bit just like there in Unmei >>16808524

>>16817862
I won't deny it uses a fair bit of the same themes but it's considerably different enough for me to say hadler's about 78% full of shit on this one.

The only major thing they have in common is that the author doesn't want the reader to get away with picking a girl without repercussions.

>>16817862
My problem with unmei yoho, aside from the terrible art, is that I found the side routes extremely boring and unfulfilling.

>>16817855
It's a real shame their next game will probably bomb after this kind of customer service.

>>16817855
I'm also reading it but only in episode 4 so far and I'm already liking it, a lot more than Unmei Youhou too. May be I got used to his prose by now. I'm completely entranced by Kureha.

>>16817862
Who the fuck is Hadler?

>>16817492
I remember this you have to drag the patch.exe over it each time, and I hate that shit.

Or maybe I'm thinking of sigmaplus' engine for hatsuyukiSakura.

>>16818019
E-celeb cut from the same cloth as Moogy.

>>16814226
Fortissimo and Dracuriot if your standard isn't too high.

>>16818070
Disgusting.

>>16817711
I hate the art but something about it the way she looks makes the textbox say.
遠慮しないで性欲を果たすまで私を犯す許可をあ。げ。る。(^-^)
鳴き声を無視してもいいよ

>>16818106
>tfw musical notes don't show up on 4chin...

>>16817711
What's up with her nipples?

>>16818019
Is he that guy who read dies irae 5 times through machine translation?

>>16818127
That's clephas
>>16818070
>>16818019
It's not fair to call Hadler an e-celeb.
He was an anon on /jp/ who read a lot of games and reviewed them a lot. He's discovered a lot of really good doujin games no one else in the west had heard of, like Mushi no Me, JQV, and Seabed. There's pretty much nothing to dislike about him except that he has a name.

>>16818194
Are you him?

>>16818211
No but a couple games I really like I learned about from his reviews so it makes me salty to see people go around saying "disgusting" out of ignorance towards a normal guy with good taste in eroge who reads a lot of obscure games.

Erika isn't bad at all, but Yuzuriha can carry this show single handed.

>>16818753
Man it hurts seeing Innocent Grey's art being wasted. One day they will hire a capable scenario writer and make good games, one day...

>>16818774
I greatly enjoy the writing. Even though all the blue balling and thiiiinly veiled yuri makes me a bit angry, desu.

Game contains a nude filter for sprites but it can't be turned on until you load the game.

Disgusting, I don't want to see these girls clothed. What dumbass allowed women clothing anyway?

>>16818774
I thought Flowers was great.

>>16819175

The one who doesn't just play nukige.

Reminds me of how you can do all kinds of shit with sprites in Aqua... after you completely cleared the game. Very useful.

>>16819214
I especially love nude filters in non nukige though like the nude armor filter in Koikishi or the nude filter in all Parasol moege games

>>16819232

While I don't think simply stripping the girls help the plot, I don't think that matters in those games you mentioned. (They may not be full nukige, but go into that direction for sure)

That said, Aqua really offers a lot of stuff you can fool around with, but they probably should've unlocked it a bit earlier.. I dunno. I can understand why they did it, but it feels like a waste at the same time.

>>16819454
I should play that for the sheer joy of it

>>16818194
I don't know if he still posts here, but damn he's been here for as long as I can remember, 6 years or more even.

When did you guys start frequenting this thread?

>>16820181
He said that he stopped coming here because the tone changed for the worse and it wasn't enjoyable to be here anymore. Can't say I blame him with all the edgelords infecting every thread.

>>16820212

Sorry.

>>16820212
>edgelords

How? Smug and condescending, but hardly edgy.

>>16820212
I dont know about the edgelord thing but the tone has certainly changed.

>>16819454
>white school swimsuits

>>16820212
Are you talking about the people that try to treat visual novel criticism as if it were criticism of real literature? Because those people somehow manage to be more smug than the faggots on /lit/.

>>16820749
Retrospectively >>16820318 and >>16820652 have made me reconsider the word edgelord in particular but I was thinking about obnoxiously hostile people who throw around the word faggot for example.

>>16820755
Faggot.

Is it just me or a lot of H-scenes don't really seem all that intimate? I don't know how to explain it, but it always seems like the characters are just going through the motions like in a porn movie instead of there being more intimacy. Which is kind of strange since the characters are more emotionally connected, you would think that they would be more into it.

>>16820755
If anything, people aren't using such insults as much as they did a few years ago. Hell, people don't even call you simply nigger anymore if they think you taste is shit. If you're offended at it, people will start using it again out of spite, though.

Nowadays people will just be condescending cunts and explain in a few sentences how you probably can't even comprehend your Japanese porn game.

>>16820755
You could always go to reddit and twitter if it bothers you. I hear that's what all the faggots that are into vns are doing.

lol

>>16820770
Everything has its proper order of events in Japan. Even sex. I'm just glad they don't use hitachi vibrators like in every JAV.

>>16820786
>Nowadays people will just be condescending cunts and explain in a few sentences how you probably can't even comprehend your Japanese porn game

I was honestly shocked when I found out that some people genuinely get hot and bothered if you don't like and appreciate the same visual novels they do. I always thought it was people being ironic. I'm still not sure if it's not a meme. At least light novel, anime, and manga critics keep themselves in check. Not sure what it is about visual novels that attracts the most defensive and most insecure of nerds.

>>16820823
Happens a lot with moege. Probably because some people get really attached to the characters. You simply don't talk shit about their waifus.

>>16820770
I agree, most relationships go from first kiss to first fuck in the same scene. I wish there was more awkwardness and time between kissing as sex. Also the horrible dirty talk and constant ochinchin screeching really kills the mood. Some how non ero vns do intimacy better.

>>16820839
Actually I see it more with "serious" vns, look at the last thread and how the sciavd fanbase fight themselves for no reason.

>>16820770
In the majority of games they're just forced in afterwards / the scenario wasn't written with them in mind, that's why. Also a lot of the time the main writer doesn't even do the h scenes but some random sub writer.

>>16820823
when as you're starved for human contact as the kind of person who tends to drift into porn powerpoints, you often put too much of yourself into the things you read. in places like this where 'good taste' or 'liking the correct things' is a sought-after indicator of status, people start to define themselves by the things they like. and so when people say bad things about the things they like, it's a direct personal negation of everything they are. naturally, resulting in them getting hot and bothered.

source: me
master's degree in armchair internet psychology

Finished AstralAir, it took a long time mainly due to boredom but also because the game is really long.

I remember the common route as well as Ochiba's being the most enjoyable, but that may also be because I wasn't bored of the characters yet. The scene in pic related from near the beginning was probably the high point of the game.

The epilogue to Kotori's route stood out in a way that it felt like a different writer, although the rest of her route was on par with everything else. Everything after was sort of just a blur up until the end of Yuuki's route.
I picked up the game in order to masturbate to the loli, so it wasn't really worth it considering I ended up skipping her scenes to get to the ending faster.

>>16820859
I was going to say the same. I very rarely, if ever, see moebuta worried about this stuff.

Hi there's something I can want to ask about the Japanese and how would they refer to God as a religious sense of father.

I'm playing a game and we'll they refer to their God as 我らの父the however later an important figure person says それが父の、神の遺志.

I'm wondering if the person messed up their speech and that they are that god's child.
As they didn't really refer to them in a religious sense as they normally do.

Am I over thinking this?
Some other people also think this. However also take it as a religious way of saying father.

>>16821249
>it took a long time mainly due to boredom
Pretty much describes my experience with a Favorite title. I'm not sure why favorite is so beloved, I find their common routes to be too long and pointless other than building affection for characters. Now and then they will do some foreshadowing but it's not nearly as well done as with other title.

>>16821539
I agree, I just don't see moebuta going at it unless they are comparing two girls from the same game and even that is rare. The one thing they are guilty of is blog posting about every random moege they play, but normally no one replies.

>>16820749
Considering the people he hangs around with, that's very likely not the problem. Also, some of the best posts in this threads have been "pseudo"-structuralist analyses like that guy who praised the harem moege for depersonalizing the heroines,
or the daitosho autists. The issue is not the /lit/-ish engagement but the shallow view of thinking more ornamented themes raises the works to a whole new standard, and everything else, like moege or nukige, become trash. If there's any blatantly visible in the thread's tone is the smug, condescencing attitude. I thought it was just ironic at first but I'm not sure anymore. Now you have this stupid dichotomy where either you look down on heavier works, or you put them on a pedestal.

>>16821754
>dichotomy where either you look down on heavier works, or you put them on a pedestal.

The worst part is trying to have perspective and nuance will get you hated by both sides. If you don't suck X meme game's dick you are trash loving moebuta. If at the same time you do think it's good just not as good as the dick suckers claim it to be, then you are an edgelord meme game lover for liking it at all. Right now being in the the middle is possibly the worst place to be. What if I enjoy SCA-Ji and Yuzusoft?

> I thought it was just ironic at first but I'm not sure anymore.
Same

>>16821754
>condescending attitude
At first I actually bothered responding. Then I realised they are boasting about having different taste.
It doesn't really mean much.

I mean I can call SnU shit and like Dracu-Riot. They can throw a hissy fit and shit but that's what opinions are.

>>16820847
>Also the horrible dirty talk and constant ochinchin screeching really kills the mood.
I hate it when the girl just freely tosses out words like まんこ and 中出し without a second thought, unless she was previous established to be a very lewd and teasing girl. The best H-scenes use crude vocabulary in moderation for maximum impact.

>>16820181
>6 years

So he's a newfag?

Asa project's new game any good?

>>16820823
Are you kidding me? There are people everywhere who can't accept differing opinions.

>>16822023

Nah.

>>16822023
For me it was very average. Its less jokey and the jokes themselves are not as good as their older games.

>>16821850
You can but going in public and saying you prefer to eat feces over a restaurant dinner isn't usually something people do.

>>16822306
More like going into public and saying you prefer a nice burger over a fancy steak. No down to earth fellow would seriously mock that.

>>16822328
Yuzusoft is only a burger on the outside, the moment you take your first bite you realize it was just painted poop.

>>16822366

And yet people like their Mc Donalds and Burger King. Opinions bro.

This place is still relatively nice when it comes to opinions. If you read some things on EGS... yeah, this place is still nice.

>>16822306
Just stop. Let people enjoy whatever they want, and keep enjoying what you enjoy. No one is dying over this shit. It's not like we have any impact on the market either.

>>16820847
>most relationships go from first kiss to first fuck in the same scene
Actually I can kind of see that since your hormones are raging at the time and if you're really attracted to the person you're probably apt to rush things unintentionally.

But since eroge is all about idealization they should take it slower and show proper progression and such. I mean, if they have certain word/character count quotas to meet, it really baffles me that they don't spend most of that on the heroines' routes and developing their relationship with the MC. It bothers me that a lot of romance games are actually focused on the common route (school life), but when it comes to the routes they always fall flat because the writer ran out of steam with the common route, or maybe he just doesn't give a fuck. I hate that.

Nice offer. One more weirdo.

Would you recommend playing Evangelion: Girlfriend of Steel?

>>16822839
no

Another try: do someone successfully launched/installed latest trial from Lump of Sugar? In my case after launching game/installer process disappears from task manager and nothing happens with no error message. System w/jap non-U locale, region, etc. Didn't encountered such before with any game...

>>16823259
Time and date in Japanese.

>>16823296
Yes, all exept win7 interface lang is already set to jp, also tried rlse loader and ntlea. Seems game and installer also checks interface lang, hope after release they fix this or there will be some patch...

>>16823427
Why would they patch it? It's not a bug it's a feature.

>>16823259
>>16823427
All exes seem to check for locale and close if it's not the right one. I patched these out and now the window pops up but it closes anyway, still investigating what the other check is.

I'm newfag and have a question to anon, are you playing the ecchi games which was translated? I dont know if any games translated are exist out of Japan.

>>16824946
日本語おｋですよ

ども
ここの人みんな日本語でプレイしてるんですか？

>>16825189
はい、そうです
いわゆるweeabooってやつ

>>16825195
そうですか　日本語能力高いですね
/a/だと大体翻訳字幕待ちの雰囲気だったからここもそんなもんだと思ってました。
英語圏では翻訳されたゲームの需要って少ないですか？
そもそも買ってプレイしてくれているか不明ですけれど

>>16825265
>日本語能力高いですね
多分そうはないと思いますけどｗ
>英語圏では翻訳されたゲームの需要って少ないですか？
はい、そうです
ですからここに日本語を勉強してるやつが多いです
>買ってプレイしてくれているか不明
率で言えば１：１００

>>16825189
いや、騙されてはいけない。　実は日本語が全然わからなくて、そのせいでみんながただ立ち絵を見て虚構な話を作り出すだけだよ

>>16825343
しまった、バれられた！

>>16825265
まあエロゲをアニメに比べったら超ニッチですね
ここで大ファンしかいない

需要はあるですけど大体抜きゲーとか萌えげーとかだけです。ちょっと複雑な営業空気かな…まあ、自分には関係ないっすけど、原文の方がずっと好きだから

>>16825383
>原文の方がずっと好きだから

>>16822306
Look I'm not sure if you've still trolling or actually think that.
But people have different interests I can call your favourite VN shit and you can do so for mine. You might think you're right and so can.
They've opinions, not fact.

The only difference is you tend to be persistent in your efforts to say VNs you don't like are shit and your favourite ones aren't.

I personally prefer both moege and plotge and I know there's shit for both sides, I'm saying this in case you still want to push this topic.

>>16825343
I love this meme

I see homosexuals are made fun of or treated like a joke in most things from Japan other than I guess Shounen Ai, Yaoi, Yuri etc.

However Sakura no Uta actually presented it with political issues more than sexualising it how'd you guys feel about it?

I personally hate homosexuals and didn't quite connect with it however was nicely written.
I honestly think a non-straight person would be able to write it better however.

https://youtu.be/qcxTH1TKrOk
Fuck
It came out pretty late I Didn't know it was an April fools prank.

※エイプリルフールの影響で私の妄想が形になってしまったみたいです！ でも、この動画でプレゼンして！ ゲーム化狙っていきますのでよろしくお願いします＼(^o^)／

>>16825997
I'd give sakuuta and it's squeal for this to be real.

>>16825997
>making a girl wait for two hours

Anybody have that kimitokanojo image where it shows what happens after you visit her after a few days then a week, and a year and then 10 years?

It's pretty heartbreaking.

>>16826316
I found it for the 10 year version

1/2

>>16826321
2/2

I fucking hate self-insert memes.
I want to play as an ikemen or somebody with character.

Even Dracu-Riot gives you an ikemen protagonist but takes away his face during certain CGs.

Fuck that shit.

>>16826322
Didn't choose her in the end, but still make sme feel bad.

>>16825860

>>16826316
How do I see these? I tried setting my computer clock to various times after I finished it and opening the game, and it didn't seem to do anything special.

>>16826415
I think you have to wait

Is this VN translated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mWAtnBLoEw

>>16826433
No

>>16826433
yes

http://blog.alicesoft.com/archives/4771534.html

>>16826332
If you play bland moege for the sole purpose of self inserting you can't really complain. Play better games.

>>16826641

Still takes time, I'm actually a bit more interested in the (probably sooner) coming stuff. But hey, I'm only past Rance 02, so not like 10 is relevant for me yet anyway. Still got 03,6-9 to go.

>>16825860
The whole civilized world is constantly leaving old practices and views behind (we don't publicly stone people to death anymore), Japan might be a few years behind in that regard but it's also becoming a political issue there, so it's not weird for it to be reflected in works of fiction.

Sexualizing homosexual couples is a very old thing in Japanese fiction, so I think it's good it gets treated seriously sometimes.

Akikuru also touched the issue recently.

>>16826852

Still pretty much authors who like their yuri anyway though. (so far) So basically, so far we only have a situation where you can somewhat touch the theme without going too far. Harukuru was pretty obvious in that regard as well. Being all "everyone likes everyone", but in the end the girl x girl was only handled as much as the expected otaku is capable of handling.

It's a messy situation. In the west you often start to have some random yuri and/or yaoi option just for the hell of it, which isn't better. But, you can see how stuff is changing. And Japan will get there as well. You can see that in recent years, with some minor nods towards that being given here and there. (Even if it's something like Sanoba Witch, where the respective side-character loses, as she likes one of the heroines, at least she's not "made straight" at the end for the heck of it. As far as I remember it was handled relatively normally.)

>>16823259
>>16824562
http://www41.zippyshare.com/v/OSxXkTNt/file.html

Try these patched files. Copy them to the trial installer folder, run installer.exe, install, then copy then patched .exe into the installation folder and run the game. Do NOT use applocale/NTLEA with the installer, for some reason it tries to check the drive if the CD is inserted (???) and it will keep on asking you for the disc forever.

Now for the technical stuff.

Running Setup.exe creates a new .exe file in your temp folder and runs that - this is the installer.exe I provided and patched. You can easily find the locale checks in Buriko if you search for GetUserDefaultLCID, nop the conditional jumps or just make the whole function return 1 in eax, whatever floats your boat. After patching them out I noticed the installer still wouldn't run because for some reason it tries to locate the main window and fails (maybe it looks for the parent Setup.exe process that way). There is a conditional jump right before the offending FindWindow and CreateMutex, patching it to always jump solves the problem. The game .exe doesn't seem to need that patch, only the locale checks.

Are Unison Shift's other games as good as Flyable Heart, KimiNago and Leyline?

A single textbox that doesn't even fit into one page of the backlog anymore. And all because of anpan. At least I learned something... I guess.

>>16827699
Those aren't good so sure, with low enough standards. Drops is better than FH

>>16827731
I liked how they apologized to kawashima after the third page of that in the backlog.

>>16827750

Yeah, I just saw that. What the heck. Good thing I checked it.

Does it bother you when the heroines don't bleed in their first H-scene, especially in pure love moege?

>>16827892
no

>>16827892

It bothers me when there's a fountain of blood gushing out as if I someone stabbed her with a gigantic knife instead. Bonus points for additional close-ups. It's about as arousing as "blowjobs", where half of the screen is the penis slapping into your face.

>>16827699
this just reminded me of that image where a textdump in a nukige is captioned nukige, some dialogue captioned moege and then someone in Leyline (I think) saying あああああああああ or something like that is captioned plotge

>>16827892
im not retard

>>16813681
Is it even worth reading? I swear I'm getitng tired of games that have routes that are nothing but yawn-inducing ero. I can just read a nukige for that, I want actual relationship stuff

>>16828398

It is a nukige. I'd say it's not worth it if you don't want it for the porn. I myself mostly just ctrl-ed after the ero started. I still think the stuff before is alright and if you don't care about the structure and like the whole "focus on one girl from the very beginning" thing can make it worthwhile. But it IS a nukige in the end. I suppose the ctrl makes it a bit hard to judge how much not ero related there still is, but in the bit I've read of purely cation, I didn't actually just end up skipping everything at some point.. so it's probably even more ero in Koinosu.

Fittingly the ero is also not as vanilla. Though I personally don't really like the art that much myself either. Some of the facial expressions are just weird, and the ero-positions and shit are pretty shitty as well. Like seriously, the penis covering half the image or most of the girl isn't the way it should be.. in my opinion. But whatever, I can't completely judge that stuff, because well.. ctrl.


That said, I think it's decently received on EGS so far.

eRONDO is a nukige brand I don't know what you expected?

>>16827892
Not really.
Blood is pretty gross anyway.

>>16829039

Well I expected a nukige and got a surprise for 3 hours or so before the ero-chain started. And that's more or less what I wrote here about it. (and why I always expected a massive amount of ero to come at SOME point)

I mostly tried it myself for a certain voice-actress. (and because Istoria needs a patch, more or less, but that doesn't seem to happen anytime soon so eh..)

>tfw you pick up something a bit beyond your level and it takes you an eternity to waddle through it

It hurts.

My god, who thought this was a good idea? The character is alright as a supporting character, but who the fuck can stand this for hours?
Seriously, holy shit. I hope this route doesn't matter. I didn't make it.

>>16829917
Part of that game's charm is that I don't think anyone stopped to think about whether or not anything in it was a good idea. Sort of like how shuri's route probably only exists because karory randomly drew a cute girl one day and they decided to throw her into the game on a whim.

>>16829930

That is definitely true to an extend, but I feel this doesn't even need thinking. It's like the obvious thing.

Props for the voice-actress though I guess... if someone needs an apology by the staff it's her. Kawashima still got away with a bruise.

>>16827892
A little bit

On saiya saiga, Shizuku from Sakura no Uta is pretty cute why did they not put her in the 美少女ゲーsection?
Are the other girls really that bad looking that they had to put the entire game in PCゲーム?
Wow that says a lot.

>>16825860
>Sakura no Uta actually presented it with political issues more than sexualising
Sca-ji is pretty conservative. I didn't really see anything political in Zypressen, it was well-done aesthetic fetishism at best.

How are the characters in PrimalxHearts 2 over 1? I kind of dropped 1 because I wasnt too interested in the cast the more I played.

>>16830893
The MC is worse by far but I liked the main heroines more.

>>16818194
Those are so so though.
Seems like he only like deep stuff.

>>16830893
Definitely better, especially Alice and Usagi.

>>16830973
No they aren't. Mushi no Me for one is just fun chuuni, nothing ""deep"" at all. Maybe if you grow out of your brainless moebuta phase one day you'll be able to appreciate good games but I wouldn't bet on it.

>>16830893
Characters are better than the original, but as whole first game is far better than second imo.

In the first one heroines were falling in love with mc because mc was actually doing something really good, but this time its just a bad cheap copy of it.

>>16831111

How bad must the girls of the first one be, if the second one is supposed to have better heroines. I couldn't even get bothered to complete a single route, and would never possible play Alice's or Usagi's either. (I tried for Tateha.. well, tried)

The game's alright overall if you are reading it, but it's not motivating to go back to, at all. At any point. The art is also really weird at times, but whatever, that's hardly the reason.

>>16830774
If he was conservative wouldn't he say it was her choice rather than her being born that way?
Like she ended up choosing it on her own accord, rather than a lack sexual attraction to males.

>>16828803
Thanks for the impressions. I'll probably read it some time but not today. What is some stupid love shit game released in the past two months or so that's decent?

>>16829039
I forgot to check. I thought all the heroines looked and sounded good so I kind of downloaded without thinking.

>>16831752

EGS still recommends しゅがてん! -sugarfull tempering- , which should be a typical moege.

Not sure what else would even qualify for what you are looking for. Trinoline? Istoria? February was pretty empty, as far as I recall.

>>16831839
Man I guess I can try that しゅがてん but something about it looks pretty boring to me. I hope the characters are writing are nice. Basically I'm looking for something romantic and light to read. I am burned out after reading Masada so much lately.

>>16832032
Neither the characters nor writing are nice, it's as boring as it looks. If you didn't limit yourself to "past two months" you'd find something.

>>16830107
Bishoujo Games is generally used for all-ages and console stuff while PC games is for actual eroge on Seiya Saiga if I remember right.

>>16832382
>Bishoujo Games is generally used for all-ages and console stuff

I thought they called them ADV

Does Daitoshokan have a lot of allusions and discussions of books, like something like Sakuuta? Or is the book theme not a big part of the story?

>>16832388
I meant on Seiya Saiga specifically.

>>16833140
They're very different games. Daito is a comedy first and foremost and the plot-ish parts of it are forgettable.

>>16833140
月は綺麗ですね

That's not a discussion, but it's a memorable moment.

And I say that despite considering Kana to be the most lovely girl and not wanting to see her turned down.

>>16831839
>>16832032
I likes shugaten, there is a bit of mystery and suspense. What MC has no memories of the past and the cake shop that took him is on the verge of bankruptcy because the baker broke his leg, the mayor wants the shop owner to sell his shop because it's one of the few buildings in town that has a full oven and some rich people are pushing the mayor to force the cute girls and grandfather baker out of their home so they can have the ovens in the shop. The reason they cant just build more shops with ovens is because a short chimney wont hold the heat in well enough, and the town is in a very cold place, however it's such a backwater town that no one with the skills to build a 2/3 floor building in the freezing cold lives in the village, making it impossible build a high enough chimney for a full oven. So the mayor is being pushed to force the girls to close shop and move. The story is told well enough that I honestly felt for the girls.

>>16833320
tl;dr: Parfait but bad

>>16833330
It's imitation gochiusa more than anything.

>>16833208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9MFbvsUXaU

>>16833435
How she manages to be best girl in other routes is amazing.
Wish there had been a choice to dump Senri there, would have been a less shit route.

>>16833534

You just have no taste whatsoever. The route was great, and Kana's role in it was perfect. It included her best scenes in the game.
You should learn that good stuff doesn't need to include everything being super happy for the character you like. Sometimes "not so happy" stuff shows the insane strength of the character and makes them shine. In fact, that SHOULD be one of the reasons why drama is even attempted. Unfortunately it's so often just silly shit where characters seem like morons because the author just writes a drama part because they have to.

And if I look at Daito, I can't understand how anyone would even care who the girls hook up with in the end or whatever. It doesn't matter. The romance in it is shit. Senri's route is about her future and friends. Kana's route is also pretty much just about her friendship with Senri. The relationship with the protag takes a backseat until the very end where it's tagged on because it's a moege and they gotta do it or something. A bit surprising this game was actually well received, but I won't complain. I thoroughly enjoyed these two routes. (and a good amount of the game in general)

Anyone play any good romance games with a tsundere heroine lately? Been hankering to read a VN lately but I'm having trouble finding one

>>16834239
キラキラ

Anyone else wonder how VNs escaped the Isekai taint?

Seriously, the only Isekai VNs I can name are Eien no Aselia and Seinarukana, and they're from the same series and were released way before this hell began.

>>16834347
It's actually infecting nukige a lot. Latest Miel game for instance, latest Lune, yeah. But in any case, I think VNs avoided it because at the end of the day, a fantasy VN would make it impossible to focus a game on highschool girls, which would be a huge loss in potential profits for moege companies.

>>16834431
I can forgive the latest Lune game of all it's faults for being an elf-centric title that has no rape, monsters, or tentacles to be quite honest.
I'd kill for a slight uptick in moege with standard fantasy archetypes that didn't revolve around incredibly poorly written "fights" too.

>>16834463
For what it's worth, I don't mind isekai much at all.
To me it's just a twist on normal fantasy, which generic fantasy stories could really use anyway. I'd put an isekai on about the same level as a terrible LOTR ripoff any day. They both have the same potential for terrible lack of creativity.

>>16834502
>>16834502
>>16834347

Isekai has been a thing since Mark Twain, ‎Lewis Carroll and even before that. Not sure why people hate it all of a sudden. Any setting works if the writing is good, look at The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, Army of Darkness, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, all isekai. Don't blame shitty writing on isekai, blame shitty writing on shitty writers. Writing is magic, it's a way of sending the reader to far away worlds, isekai is the most natural state of fictional writing.

>>16834624
>Not sure why people hate it all of a sudden.
They don't hate it because they're new, they hate it because it's had a surge of popularity with a metric ton of shit. Surprise, people dislike fads.

>>16834650
And they probably just learned the word.

>>16834624
I think people lately associate isekai with narou and amateur, unedited writing, which explains some of the vitriol. A lot of the hate is pretty hyperbolic though.

>>16834973
>And they probably just learned the word.
I think it's this more than anything.

>>16834347
>Hell
極楽じゃねえか
なろう作家バンザーイ！

I hit the end of the common route for this game a few months back and was insufficiently inspired to keep going, but I went back and started following Wakaba's route today and I'm glad I did.

Her route also takes whatever plot there might have been to this story and dumps it neatly in the garbage but I wasn't interested in everyone's regrets anyway.

I hit the end of the common route for this game a few months back and was insufficiently inspired to keep going, but I went back and started following Wakaba's route today and I'm glad I did.

Her route also takes whatever plot there might have been to this story and dumps it neatly in the garbage but I wasn't interested in everyone's regrets anyway.

>>16835170
The common route for me was extremely bland, and forgettable. I ended up dropping the game about halfway through Hikari's route mainly because of the MC. Its shame because Wakaba and Hikari were honestly the only characters I liked in the game.

>>16835296
Yeah, MC was boring as a box of rocks. I feel like it stands out slightly less in Wakaba's route because she's forceful enough for two. What order did you play the routes (that you made it through) in? Just Hikari?

>>16835316
Just Hikari's(kind of). Looking back Inori wasnt so bad as well since the MC fucking with her was amusing. Might try her's or Wakaba's if I ever get around to it.

>>16835296
>The common route for me was extremely bland, and forgettable.

I agree with you on that, it left me with a "Oh I guess that's it then" kind of feeling.

are the other routes better? this route felt like infodump and the story itself is meh. though i ended liking Ginko anyway. did they recommend to read this route first to know the backstory of whatever is going to happen to the other routes or something?

It saddens me that there are people who can't get the sense of humor and friendship in Hanasaki.

>>16835451
>can't get the sense of humor and friendship in Hanasaki.
Maybe because it's poorly written and you get tired of it in a couple of hours?

>>16835451
There wasnt any more friendship feeling in the hanasaki than some random school club games. Try tsuyokiss for that, its far better.

Anyone here played キミトユメミシ? How was it?

Just watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCYuYBrOZ3o and I'm speechless.

>>16835561
Actually fun if you like raunchy comedy, even in the routes.

>>16835561
No but I'm gonna play it now.

>>16835561
Sorry I thought you were talking about https://vndb.org/v565

>>16835561
Picked up.

Why is she such a yandere.

>>16835879
Hotori-chan <3

But why did her route have to be so short and extremely formulaic?

>>16835913
Because she's a boring and extremely formulaic character who makes no sense once you get to it.

>>16835879
Imouto is the real yandere

>>16835427
I think you should've gone for the Iroha route first, then Shouko, Ginko, then Sakuya.

>>16835427
Yeah Ginko is easily the worst of the main heroines, Sakuya and Shouko are the best girls and you only really play the game for them.

>>16835980
>>16835990
thanks. i guess i would do their routes last then. i'd rather start slow and end great than the opposite.

>>16835990
>Calling Ginko the worst.

Help! My chuuni imouto just walked in the room wearing a succubus outfit to perform a 'ritual' with me.

What should I do?

>>16836274
>>>/adv/

I went to akiba today and just noticed kamifusen is closed. What the hell.

>>16836357

>>16836274
She's after your mana. Get the fuck out of there

>>16836357
Hardly surprising. It was quite nice when I was there last year, but I'm not surprised it couldn't keep a physical store open while competing with Sofmap or Trader.

>>16836274

I feel you. This weird "imouto" just came to wake me up, and I'm preeety sure my actual imouto is long dead. What a fake. Annoying voice. And this one dares to even say "onii-chan". Not even human too... time to find a big trash-can. This big hunk of an alarm-clock is just the worst.

So yeah, give her mana (some snack you have lying around) and tell her to put on some clothes. And get out of the chuuni-phase.

>>16836404
You were right. I gave her too much mana and now she's pregnant.

Opinions on 3rdEye? Gensou no Idea and Sorcery Jokers look pretty cool

Are the other ends in C;C better than Over sky end?

>>16837107
it's hard to tell what the hell would be better without knowing what you think is good
if you made it through to Over Sky you're mostly done anyways, just like 15 hours of reading left because the other routes are short

>>16837107
The heroine routes are really weak except Nono. That, Over Sky and True End are all fantastic though.

>>16837107
Not really. All the heroine routes throw the main plot out of the window instead of exploring it from different perspectives and only two of them are tangentially related to the main story. The true route after those is extremely short as well. If you felt satisfied with Over Sky's ending I'd suggest to stop playing there.

>>16813681
Does she call the protagonist "Onii-san"? This is important.

>>16837535

Either that or -chan. I think it was -san, but.. well. I'm sure the official site has something about that in profiles or something.

>>16837188
The ending was fine, what I was disappointed with was the writing. Wataru's evil monologuing really was too much. His word choice in the theater scene were childish and painful to read. "どうした？ 早く舞台に上がれ。客が退屈してるぞ". His constant usage of stage, roles, and referring to an audience was over done. When he said "I did it to have fun" I thought it was just to provoke taku, but then I realized he really was just that one dimensional. The only other character soo poorly written was probably Watabe. All the flash back scenes and Taku's childishness was also a sour point for me and pretty much boiled down to not wanting to be looked down on the people he look down on. A childishly hypocritical view, but I guess that is Taku's entire character, childish and hypocritical.

Chapters 1-10 had me on my toes at all time. I would read for hours and not even notice the sun had gone down, or sometimes that it had come up! But chapter 11's pacing was horrible. Partly because the writers felt it was necessary to explain everything twice, once in dialogue and again in narration, sometimes a third time in Taku or Serika's thoughts just in case the reader didn't get it. No other part of the story babysat the reader this way and I really felt it. I was also tired of everyone crying after every line. The story was very entertaining but not emotional in anyway for me. I like the way Yui's death was written, it was short and the mourning was short and characters were drained but the story went on. Yui's death didn't linger in the text much, instead the mood changed, nothing ever felt the same but there was no need to voice it. The way Nono hated herself for being able to think so clearly even after what had happened was an excellent little touch. However, the crying and over dramatization in chapter 11 went in the opposite direction and soured the last bit of Over Sky end for me. It became monotonous and repetitive, I felt like I was reading Ryukishi07.

>>16837611

I really liked that "delusion" or whatever during the climax, which was long and entirely pointless as you'd know exactly what would happen in it the moment it started.

But, yeah, while I don't agree myself that chapter1-10 are THAT good, the pacing in chapter11 was really absolutely fucked up. It was probably twice as long as it should've been.

>>16837678
>I really liked that "delusion" or whatever during the climax, which was long and entirely pointless as you'd know exactly what would happen in it the moment it started.

Are you talking about the delusion that wataru puts him in? That is essentially the scene from FSN where Shiro breaks out of angra manyu's curse with Saber's help then kills Kotomine. The parallels did not escape me, taku even starts projecting swords, which was another pointless scene.

>>16837733

I think there's only one. With several characters not being very "nice" to him, and after it the battle gets essentially directly finished.

I mean, one shouldn't look too strongly for what's needed and what isn't, but sometimes there's just not the time to include a random 30minute filler.
It's a shame, too, as there is an interesting concept in the finale. But that's only like the last 5 minutes. Wrong priorities.

Reading Silverio Trinity. I'm taking way longer with this title than anyone should have any right to.

Just read the first chapter of the true route. I like how brutal the endings of the individual routes are, but the seemingly endless fight scenes were getting boring. So far this route is good, I hope it stays that way.

>>16838337
You're liking it less than Vendetta?

>>16838350
Not really. It's more of the same, doesn't stray that far from Vendetta. Apparently people hated Zephyr, but I kind of liked him.

I do feel that the heroines in Vendetta are a lot more memorable, though. Well, except for Milly, maybe.

>>16838373
how is the mc? i like zephyr, but the new one looks as generic hero.

Is the collectors edition of Reminiscence worth it if you already finished the standard edition?

>>16838579
https://forums.fuwanovel.net/blogs/entry/1527-changed-reminiscence-collectors-edition-part-1-reminiscence/

You guys hyped me for the voice acting and damn, it lives up to the hype

>>16838639
Not sure how reliable this review is seeing how it comes from someone who can't read Japanese.

>>16838778
Does he use mtl or something?

>>16839164

>>16818127
>>16818194

>>16839185
Dear god, why not just learn Japanese at that point?

>>16838745
Aoba Ringo does not disappoint.

>>16839207
There is literally no point to learn japanese for porngames when machine translators so good.

>>16839185
>>16839207

Not to talk more about e-celebs, nor defend Clephas because he is a pompous ass, but I am pretty sure he knows Japanese. The only strange thing he does is he continues to use text hookers despite considerable proficiency because he believes they give him a big speed bonus, apparently.

>>16839456
Yeah, machine translators are awesome.

>>16839491
damn I wasted 4 years of my life

I guess this is the right thread to ask this to so. I just downloaded Sweet Home - H na Oneesan wa suki desu ka? which in most of the downloading sites I see I have to download around 6.8GBs and I found a 1.8GBs only and I dl'ed that because I have a turtle-speed ISP (took me 3 days to download that whole 1.8GBs, yeah it's that bad). Installed it and works fine now, has voices and all.

So my question is: anyone know if there is any significant difference if I've downloaded the 6.8GB one instead of the 1.8GB, I mean that seems a whole lot of considering like 4GB~ of data I managed to rip off. Anyone here read this VN before?

>inb4 shit nukige

>>16839908
Probably just a dummy cut version, should be fine.

>>16839908
Why would you get that version and not Nukiani? Nukiani version is that game with animated (tweened) scenes.

>>16839929
Welp. Didn't know there was a Nukiani! version. So that was the 4GBs cut huh. Are the animations good enough to warrant me to get the Nukiani version instead of the original one?

>>16840001
Eh. I think there's a setting in that version to make the animated scenes non-animated incase you don't like what you see. It's better than nothing, I suppose.

What do you value more in a story?

>a simple, small-scope story told well
or
>a story that is complex, with a large-scope and immense power, but suffers from plotholes and can be overly convoluted at times

>>16838745
I love the bath scene when she loses it.
I mentioned this a thread or so ago

>>16840161
Not sure why you have the small-scope story be well told but the large-scope story suffer from plotholes and be overly convoluted (why not both well told?)
Either way, I prefer large scope stories because it usually means getting the fuck out of a gakuen. Small scope stories are fine but with JP media you can bet they're gonna be mother fucking gakuenmono every goddamn time fuck.

>>16840182
If they were both told well I think most people would prefer the more complex story.

It's like a simple story told really well
I guess like a love triangle with a few twists.
vs
a story that goes into philosophy, cultures and wars.

>>16839491
desu I suck at translation, I'd probably screw up now and again.

>>16839491
Google is really bad for Japanese, I've seen it trip over extremely simple stuff that lesser known services won't
of course machine TLs aren't reliable for reading in the first place
I text hook my stuff because I can't be bothered to figure out all the katakana loanwords

>>16839491
I wish LEC's online translator worked. I'd use the offline version if I could install it, but I've had this fucked up issue where I cannot install anything to x86 for awhile now.

>>16838525
Much of what he does is generic heroism, yes, but as a character, he's more of "a normal guy of an extremely high caliber" rather than a "hero".
In fact, it's so high that it's kinda freakish. I like to liken him to The Guy Who Knew Everyone from that ancient joke, since I have trouble thinking of anyone he couldn't get along with.
It's so fitting that he got first place in the popularity poll.
>>16838373
>I do feel that the heroines in Vendetta are a lot more memorable, though.
Vendetta and Chitose are better than Aya and Mistel, but Rain is a miracle all must protect and bully minimally, just enough to make her more かわゆい.
I genuinely believe she's the best light "heroine". By that, I don't mean "female character", of course, Masada has several better ones in DI. I'm referring to the hard-to-define stat known as ヒロイン力.
Rain's is just on another level.

>>16827932
I wish I still had that image.

>>16840161
I'd prefer large-scope because small-scope is very likely to be just social drama, which almost always bores me.

>>16840334
I don't text hook any more but it's useful when I don't know a word or forgot something.
Like rikai Chan is useful for browsing and I see some old word for war or something historically related.

What are your thoughts on cakes?
(Not the food)

>>16840833
I prefer the term "old hags" it's more accurate

>>16840833
depends

؜>>16838373
Zephyr was interesting I don't know why people didn't like him.
He was different from the usual MC.

>>16840850
is she gonna look like a loli when she's 420 years old too??

>>16840683
Say no more

>>16840886
I love the pink girl I haven't finished the game though.

>>16840886

I feel like at least for plotge there should be better examples.

>>16841102
I love her so much she was one of the most fun characters ever

What are some fun, engaging VNs you've read that you've had trouble putting down? For me I just started Tsuyokiss and something about it just makes me want to keep reading. I guess it helps that the characters and jokes are actually funny.

>>16841153
>I just started
Well that's hardly an indicator of "fun, engaging VNs you've read that you've had trouble putting down". Most VNs start off with a fun honeymoon phase but then pacing issues kick in, it starts getting stale and you realize you still have 30 hours left to read. Come back and see if you can still say that after you finished it.

>>16841153
C;C common route

>>16841153
Akeiro and Nanairo were both games I read the entire common/true route of without losing any steam at all, they were just solid and funny throughout, great pacing.
Aiyoku no Eustia's second chapter sucked balls, but otherwise I read the whole thing in like 5 days of reading with all my spare time.

>>16841153
Basically every entry in the Kyonyuu fantasy series besides maybe the modern day entry

>>16841153

Pretty much never happened for a full work, due to typical VN structure. Even if a route is absolutely to my liking, it won't take more than a day or two to finish anyway, and then you have credits rolling and can maybe restart the story and play another route. But that's still a reset and you are essentially done with what you really liked and only other stories are there waiting for you. Even if there's some overall theme or whatever being built, like in Baldr Sky, the reset still has quite a bit of impact as the story isn't really directly continued, but many general events happen again even if some details may change. Usually that is.

So yeah, the medium isn't really built for that, for the most part. And I do consider it a weakness to an extend. Even if the "elevator" structure is chosen, you still have relatively long character arcs which are usually mostly self contained and strongly focused on a certain girl. And as such there are almost always highs and lows, just like with more normal routes, even though in theory it's a linear story.


I think the closest to this was 999 for me, although it includes gameplay, so it's not a pure VN. You do have a few playthroughs, but the game has no traditional heroine centric routes or anything like that, and worked quite well. Funny enough, the sequel kinda changed that and was overall a far weaker experience, for other reasons as well though.
Aside of that, I'm mostly get hooked to things including gameplay. Those games usually have a much clearer single goal a good amount of time away. Legend of Heroes Cold Steel 1. Rance 01 + 02. Last months Noroi no Maken. I'd say I got pretty hooked to all of these "recently". And the story isn't really the reason in any of them. (I suppose it's somewhat part of Cold Steel, but not at all in the other ones, especially not in case of Noroi no Maken)

>>16841190
Do you have to do all the routes in Akeiro? Pink and Blonde look really bad.

Has anybody fallen in love with a VN?

I fallen for a video game it's rune factory 2, and it's perhaps one of my favourite games of all time, yet being pretty shoddy.
A man comes to town with no memory he makes friends with the villagers and builds his farm, falls in love and leaves in the middle of the night for some reason.
It's so romantic, comfy and yet incredibly cheap and lacking as a game.

I want a VN that I fall in love with but I feel that just reading and not really interacting like a game makes me not really fall for it.

I got into VNs from cute songs involving stars and Japanese songs. I guess I want a game where a I fall in love with the characters.

So I'm curious is there a VN that you absolutely love?

>>16841414
What you want to read is Katahane. Make sure to get the new An' call Belle version.

>>16841424
I was looking forward to other people's VNs that they fell in love with or I guess really love.

Also I'm not a really a fan of Yuri but might check this out. Thank you.

>>16841414
I know the feeling you're describing, and I think it's something really difficult to bring about without having some interaction, or some damn amazing writing that brings life to the characters. Even for most games I find it's hard to pull it off. Probably recently I got this feeling from Yakuza 0. I pretty much loved almost every character from the game, or the series in general really.

But I'm getting off topic. For VNs, I would have to say something like Girls Be Ambitious. I know it's not highly rated or popular but to me it had really great characters, both female and male. It's basically the group of friends dynamic done very very well. They feel very close and tight-knit and it might scratch that comfy itch you're looking for.

>>16841453
Unless you're new to VNs you already know what people love. Dies irae, Subahibi, Muramasa, WA2 etc. But they're games very different from your description.

You don't have to be into yuri to enjoy Katahane, it's much more than just that.

>>16841404
Pink is skippable, but blonde has amazing route, even if you don't like her character

>>16841414
Gothic 2, if you count non-VNs.

Sakura no Uta as far as VNs go.

>>16841491
I guess I phrased things wrong.
I wasn't looking for a game like rune factory 2.
Just wondering what you fell for.

I don't just mean 'I really like this game' but actually fall in love, something about it just really sticks with you.

Like I loved how Drakoi uses themes of romance and juxtaposes that with its themes of destruction. It's unique and beautiful. It's worded beautifully and I really like it.
However I didn't I guess fall in love with it. I don't really know how to explain. Maybe it's something that touches on an issue that you feel a connection with like a sense of belonging or who you are, or maybe it appeals to your sense of high adventure or romance.
For me rune factory 2 appealed to my sense of romance, belonging and mystery. A game I feel might equal this would be natsuyume nagisa(it's on my list)

I guess something that sticks out from others things you love.

>>16841553
Can you sell Natsuyume Nagisa to me? It's one of those games I skipped over because it seemed generic at first glance

>>16841553
Well... yeah. As said, the popular games are popular because they struck a chord with a large amount of people. You're mostly gonna get the same set of answers as those but I think your real intent was to find new games that would resonate with -you-, hence the recommendation.
Anyways, Cross Channel for me.

>>16841580
Haven't played it but loved
HatsuyukiSakura, the themes and sounds work so well together to make a creepy snow atmosphere that's filled with a type of sadness that you don't quite seem to get yet can somehow feel it. It sent shivers down my spine (although not a scary way), and it was expertly done.
The writing is well done and complements the snow and dreary theme so well yet they can the add in comedy and have it work regardless.
I even felt cold reading it.

If I had to recommend any VN to somebody it would probably be this.

With that said Nijima's best works are NatsuyumeNagusa and HatsuyukiSakura so I'm expecting something equally as great.

>>16841650
Sorry I'm not that good at explaining or selling things but I really recommend it.
The snowy and mystery themes, sound and writing work better in unison than anything I've read.

It's perhaps my favourite eroge.

That's kinda why I'm looking forward to NatsuyumeNagusa.