/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>空が飛べる
>not 狂気を操る

>>16779875
so first one to be set in the Serengeti and not in Gensokyo?

This new toho looks kind of familiar somehow.

すっごーい！

>shitty art
>fantasy world filled with girls
>nothing important happens
Fuckers stole from ZUN
he should sue the shit out of them

>>16779936
You're wrong on the last part, though. Ceruleans are real deal.

>>16779875
Why is this show so popular? Is that shitty mushroom girl show popular too? They looked like the same kind of shit.

>>16779978
What mushroom girl show?

>>16779996
There was some similar show about girls that were mushrooms that basically sounded like kemono friends but about mushroom girls instead of animal girls.

https://anilist.co/anime/97709/MorinoYouseiKinokonoMusume

>>16780033
I'm all for making anime real but it depends on whether it's good or not.

>>16779875
how is his art still so fucking bad after 20 years

>>16780272
How is that bad art?
It's his own style and I unironically think it looks great.

>>16779936

Except KF has a real plot.

Here comes the Kemono Furries defense force.

>>16780615
What are you talking about?

>>16780779
Someone didn't check the chart.

Welcome to youkoso /jp/ari Park

I wonder how many doujin circles will KF take from touhou.

>>16780796
So where does Kagerou fit in. She's already got fur in her arms so is she a Semi-Not Furry?

>>16780957
She's less furry than a mithra, so not furry.

>>16780605
"Animal girls who dyke out" is not a real plot

>>16779875
When's the Tokyo Jungle / Kemono Friends crossover?

>>16781004

That's not the real plot at all.

>>16781004
>>"Animal girls who dyke out" is not a real plot
I wonder if you're a Touhou secondary, too, if you think like that about this.

>>16781094
just another fad trying to cash in
you know where to go to talk about it

tabenaide kudasai

>>16780957
Kagewoo is only fuzzy one day a month.

>>16779875
If KF remains as popular as it is for the long haul and the creators start making more games, then this could become the new 2hu and the threads will likely get moved here from /a/.

>>16781578
Suggooi

>>16779875
ｷﾀ━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━!!

>>16781715

>>16781719
ｷﾀ━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━!!

>>16781729
ｷﾀ━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━!!

Microsoft is on a roll with furries these last few years.

>>16781729
Amazing original character. May I steel it?

Can it get mating pressed = not furry

>>16779978
It's fun.

>>16781578
I can only hope. There is plenty of fun things in this universe.

>>16781161
She is the girl with which you can have really beastial sex once a month and lovey dovey the rest of the time. Sounds like the best of two worlds.

>>16781719
Toyosato? Thats the name of the school that K-ONs school was based on.

Also, what is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyrVKXnJUc

>>16780796
2 is furry, 3 is

>>16783987
>2 is furry, 3 is
3 is what?

>>16784008
What is this..?

>>16782698
I can see how an anime with this premise could be fun, but the deadly combination of cheap, choppy CG and the novice seiyuu screaming every line into the mic gave me a headache before the first episode was through. How anyone managed to sit through more than that is beyond me.

>>16784393
Servant and the penguins are pretty much the only ones who can't act as characters; the rest are good at making their characters distinct (early notable example being Alpaca). The show also has lots of experienced people like Kaneda Tomoko, Kobayashi Yuu, Nonaka Ai and Itou Kanae.

>the cliffhanger

>>16780796
>>16780615
I honestly can't believe fucking /jp/ all places calls Kemomimi tier stuff "furry" now.
What the fuck.

Since when just having animal ears and tails "furry" now? Because that's Kemono Friends' case too, the rest are literal clothes you can remove. They only animal have ears and tails, and on top of that they have human ears too, so they're even more far from the furry zone.

>>16787136
Apparently they forgot about the beast youkai in the 2hoes franchise. But that is the case of /jp/, to lack self awareness.

>>16787136
>Since when just having animal ears and tails "furry" now?
Since just having animal ears and tails made someone a "monster girl". Monster girl fans are furfags, thus anything that is a "monster" girl by them is furry.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30858712

>>16784393
>novice seiyuu
A lot of them weren't actually. Makes me think it was on purpose.

>>16787164
What kind of stupid logic is this?
You breathe and you're a moron, but not everything that breathes is stupid.

>>16787179
everything that breathes is stupid...

>>16787164
So because you don't like it, it's furry? These girls are barely Kemono anyway.

>>16787487
It's furry because furries say it is furry. The bigger question, is why do you have a problem that it is furry?

>>16787496
Because it's not furry. The girls barely have any nonhuman parts, yah goofus.

Explain why this show is not an inane heap of banal shit

>>16789125
Explain why your favourite show/game/franchise is not an inane heap of banal shit

>>16789136
The things I like most are the ones I dream up myself, and so they are custom tailored to appeal to me 100%. This includes not involving things I consider inane or banal.

>>16787496
Sugita asked Eguchi Takuya what he thinks about Kemono Friends (which he played since the game launch) and his answer was:
>It lacks fur.
When asked what was the right amount of fur, his answer was:
>Zootopia and the furry scenes of Show by Rock.

Based on that, your claim of "furryfags say it's furry" has zero creditability.

>>16789239
...and for anyone interested, here's the source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaZSg3Lnkpo

>>16784393
It gets much better as it goes along. Part of the fun of following KF has actually been watching the cast and crew develop their skills as it's gone on.

Episode 1 also kind of makes the show seem like it's going to be a totally different kind of thing than it turned out to be, it seems like it's gonna be some Pokemon type kiddy monster of the week series or something but it's nothing like that.

>>16789125
It has an original concept, a tight and reasonably coherent plot, good pacing, likable characters, and very good worldbuilding. It often avoids predictable cliche developments, and when does them it's in unexpected ways. It's also just fun to watch and ridiculously comfy.

I have to admit that it won't be as fun getting into it now, simply because the shared experience of watching it with /a/ as it aired and speculating about the world and what was going to happen in future episodes was a big part of what made it so enjoyable, but it's still a really nice series and there's more of it coming sooner or later. There's also an incredible fanart/doujin following for it, on a level that I've never seen with anything except Touhou.

>>16781578
I really really hope this happens. Our little group on /a/ has been really fun to post with, and it's been a group that would fit in much more on /jp/ than on /a/. (Mostly older long-time channers who actually follow the Japanese side of the fandom and their memes etc., and a lot of them were /jp/ natives crossboarding for the KF threads anyway.) I'd happily settle for a single running general over here if it meant preserving that group and getting away from the bandwagoners who've overrun our threads in the last week or so.

>>16789638
We ever figure out what the deal was with that crashed B-2?

>>16789669
Not as far as I've seen. There are still a lot of backstory questions open and now there are some new foreground ones thanks to Ep.12.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens with the second season or whatever it turns out to be.

>>16789638
I watched kemofure from the very beginning and even went over to /a/ to see if there were any others watching it around then. Those early threads were really nice to read through. If they were to come over I would be glad to see them again.

>>16789239
see >>16787164
You're thinking of the wrong furfags. The furfags in denial, aka monstergirl fans, think it is part of their fetish, of which their fetish is furries.

>>16790920
They do?

>>16781578
>and the threads will likely get moved here from /a/
doubt it

>>16790920
I dunno man, by that logic every show ever made is a footfag show because they'll fap to anything that shows a second of feet.

>>16790920
So you came to this thread just to vent about your personal vendetta with monstergirlfags?

>>16793311
No, I came to read how a bunch of people wish they could move more threads from /a/.

I hope Kemono Friends kills Kanker colle. At least there's worthwhile things about KF beyond the porn.

>>16793337
>There's worthwhile things about KF beyond the porn.

Like what?

>>16793421
Character designs for one. They actually try to incorporate elements of each animal while still being recognizable as a cute girl, instead of "lol here's a generic schoolgirl with some ship parts stripped to her back"

>>16793754
>"lol here's a generic schoolgirl with some ship parts stripped to her back"
Not enough people call that out. Good man.

>>16793754
I don't know, I think they still have the same over-design of modern moeifications.

>>16779875
Look at Reisen. She's a rabbit. She has ears, a carrot pin, and a bunny gun.

Look at Serval. She has no identity outside of the cat print and paws and ears. The ears and tail would have been enough. Like a Kancolle is basically a girl wearing boats, she's a girl wearing a cat skin going "look I'm a cat!"

>>16793872
Does Reisen have an identity outside of the rabbit ears? She's pretty generic herself if you think about it. As for Serval, the "M" in her hair is pretty iconic from what I've seen recently.

>>16794051
>Does Reisen have an identity outside of the rabbit ears?
Yeah, she wears a business looking outfit that's apparently a military uniform or something. She doesn't wear the jacket to it anymore, and also she has those buttons on her ears as a character quirk unrelated to being a rabbit. Well, had. She seems to have removed those too. She's not just a rabbit girl with rabbit ears and rabbit paws and a bunny suit or anything like that.

Shou is a good example too. She has tiger hair and a tiger skin skirt thing, but other than that she's designed as something other than "tiger girl" and Reisen is designed as something more than "bunny girl". It's not a matter of generic look, but that the whole of characters seems to revolve around them being "thing".

>the "M" in her hair is pretty iconic
Reminds me of the majin symbol from dragonball.

sugoi

>>16794127
>Yeah, she wears a business looking outfit that's apparently a military uniform or something.
So just clothes again?
My point is that if you take away every unique point of a character they are ALL generic. Your reasoning for why Serval is, but Reisen isn't, is flawed.
Good character design is: do they look good, and are they not easily mistaken for another character (do they stand out)? Which both do, so they're both well designed.

>Reisen is designed as something more than "bunny girl"
I like Reisen, but you're going to have a hard time convincing me of that. That aside, Serval is supposed to be exactly what she looks like. Is there a problem with a serval girl that does serval things being designed to look like a serval?

>>16793421
Like every episode being about new fun, cute and silly adventures.(Silly being most important)
Its the format I love the most, I find it similar to touhou.

>>16794051
>>16794127
Serval has an incredibly distinct identity, but writing, animation, and voice acting are major parts of it. Unlike boat girls, she, and every other Friend, are based on their animal origins to the core and pretty much every aspect of them references the original animal in one way or another. (Admittedly some take more from legend/tradition than reality, like Golden Snub-Nose Monkey, who's nothing but a Sun Wukong reference, or Bald Eagle wearing a USMC uniform.)

The whole basic concept of Kemono Friends precludes adding in features that aren't derived from the animal each character is based on. The idea is all about taking interesting traits of a given animal and integrating it into a character in interesting ways. Sometimes it's visual - for example, pack animals wear uniforms - and other times it's personality stuff, like otter having infinite fun throwing a rock back and forth, or Toki's singing. A major goal for the series was to get people interested in animals and introduce them to species/breeds that they may not have known about, which is why the main Friend is a relatively obscure kind of cat.

>>16794051
Reisen is one of the more developed characters in Touhou to be fair, due to her history with Lunar society, her current servitude under Eirin on Earth selling medicine to the humans, and her role in LOLK. But that took time and more games / written works, at the start she was pretty much just red eyes insane moon bunny.

I don't know anything about this show but the characters seem cute. I assume there's a reason people like it.

Loving Kemono Friends. Reminds me of Touhou, though I wouldn't exactly call them "similar". Fun show with dark undertones and a unique atmosphere. Also, adventure!

>>16793421
It's a genuinely good show. It's simple, but by keeping it that way they were able come up with a really solid product. It's also not a rehash of the same shit we've seen a billion times before.

That aside, KF is worth keeping an eye on because behind the scenes it's actually a very radical experiment in rethinking pretty much all of the conventions of the anime industry, and it's bound to have an influence. The way the franchise was conceived and managed, the way the show was actually produced, and even the way the BDs are distributed are huge breaks from tradition and provide benefits for fans and for production companies.

>>16794611
I agree mostly with this, but sometimes the characterization is weird. For example I don't get why Hippopotamus is an ara-ara type when real hippos are very aggresive and territorial.

>>16794777
Fennec is also calm smug type although real fennec foxes are hyperactive weirdos.

Creative liberty I guess.

>>16794278
>My point is that if you take away every unique point of a character they are ALL generic.
I didn't say they were generic, I said they were over designed and trying way too hard to look like a cat. Quit arguing on false premises.

>>16794611
Your post makes me ask >>16779978 again
The mushroom show seems like the exact same thing except about mushrooms instead of animals.

The show also sounds boring as shit. I did watch an episode and there was no plot to be found. Does anything at all happen?

>>16795003
Plot doesn't really kick in until the seconde episode

>>16795056
It was episode 3, so yeah.

>>16794611
>The whole basic concept of Kemono Friends precludes adding in features that aren't derived from the animal each character is based on. The idea is all about taking interesting traits of a given animal and integrating it into a character in interesting ways.
Okay, so it's this http://mangapark.me/manga/murenase-shiiton-gakuen-yamashita-bungo but more boring.

>>16794751
>That aside, KF is worth keeping an eye on because behind the scenes it's actually a very radical experiment in rethinking pretty much all of the conventions of the anime industry, and it's bound to have an influence. The way the franchise was conceived and managed, the way the show was actually produced, and even the way the BDs are distributed are huge breaks from tradition and provide benefits for fans and for production companies.

I want to know what you are on about. Please go into detail.

>>16794751
>That aside, KF is worth keeping an eye on because behind the scenes it's actually a very radical experiment in rethinking pretty much all of the conventions of the anime industry, and it's bound to have an influence. The way the franchise was conceived and managed, the way the show was actually produced, and even the way the BDs are distributed are huge breaks from tradition and provide benefits for fans and for production companies.

You're really going to need to substantiate and exemplify such extreme claims.

>>16795003
>no plot to be found
>>16795056
>Plot doesn't really kick in until the seconde episode
the plot is revealed immediately

"let's go to the library"

>>16795466
I don't know about everything he's saying but something as popular as this is guaranteed influence on some level, always.

Business replicates.

>>16795103
>>16795466
Explaining it in a post is really difficult, but I'll try. This interview is one of quite a few, but it hits a lot of the major points: https://pastebin.com/rdQFTF22

I'll touch on the big ones:

The first and one of the biggest is that KF was designed from day one to be a long-term multimedia franchise project. This is actually quite unusual, usually initial works are standalone and new things are added if the first is successful.

KF was produced by a very small and flexible team. Instead of involving the production committee in every decision, as a normal anime would, full authority was given to the director, Tatsuki, and the sort of "series mastermind," Yoshizaki. That meant that changes and new ideas could be implemented in hours instead of in weeks, and it lead to a very coherent product because it had an actual leader with power to steer it.

More specifically, Yoshizaki was made into a sort of "franchise mastermind" and all of the basic concepts behind it, as well as almost all of the character designs, came from him. Tatsuki was in charge of making the anime itself and had control over everything from storyboards to scripts, as well as doing a lot of CG work himself.

One example of an area in which they've done something quite unusual is that they allowed the voice actresses to heavily influence their characters and let them ad lib things on the fly, which is very atypical in the anime industry. Usually a script goes through multiple layers of bureaucracy and is set in stone before the VAs even see it.

They've engaged heavily with the fans and even made a few fan character designs official, and they encourage fanart, doujin event, etc.

Even the distribution model is a big departure, instead of simply selling BDs they've created a series of "guidebooks," all of which are treated as serious products and not as the usual crappy tie-in stuff, and the BDs are treated as add-ons to the books. Oh, and they sell the whole package for less than the cost of a normal BD.

Anyway, that interview explains things way better than I can. Reading it was what made me realize how big of a deal this whole project is and what it means to the industry.

>>16795790
Oh, so it's another one of those KyoAni situations where the product is solid because the production wasn't the standard retarded splintered bureaucratic mess.

I think you're being naively optimistic by thinking these factors will be taken as influence by other companies, but I agree that it would be nice if it happened.

>>16796001
Rather than KyoAni, I'd compare it to a western indie studio. Nothing they've done would be particularly unusual here in the US but it's pretty radical in Japan.

I might well be overly optimistic, but I just can't help but root for this series and everything involved with it. I think that at the very least we might see Kadokawa going a similar direction with more of their products.

>>16780033
>Mori no Yousei
Kinda surprising it didn't take off with a name like that.

>>16796045
>>16795790
>One example of an area in which they've done something quite unusual is that they allowed the voice actresses to heavily influence their characters and let them ad lib things on the fly, which is very atypical in the anime industry. Usually a script goes through multiple layers of bureaucracy and is set in stone before the VAs even see it.
If you haven't noticed, CG and ad-lib shows have been going on for multiple seasons now.

>They've engaged heavily with the fans and even made a few fan character designs official, and they encourage fanart, doujin event, etc.
This is actually something those shows do too, like releasing the models and showing fan art on the show.

Those things sound like they're moving to make it something streamlined instead of messing around like what's been going on. In fact, it is probably more like the same kind of thing Hi sCoool! SeHa Girls tried to do with hopes of being more successful.

Over all it seems like they're trying to make a long running, fan driven, wider appealing, aggressively marketed version of what Gdgd fairies, Tesagure, etc have been doing for the past few years now that the model of cheap CG anime has been proven.

>>16796880
Hold on, isn't that one of the tags people used on Gachimuchi videos on NND?

>>16795790
>The first and one of the biggest is that KF was designed from day one to be a long-term multimedia franchise project. This is actually quite unusual, usually initial works are standalone and new things are added if the first is successful.

I don't think this is quite true; I've seen plenty of anime intended as part of multimedia projects over the past few years. It's just that usually they all bomb and are quickly forgotten.

KF itself was like that at first, with the game being poorly received and the manga ending around the same time the game shut down. Interest in them only got a recent resurgence because the anime's gotten so popular.

New game PV was released recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEpoRP3eaM4

Posting on /jp/ since it's about the game.

>>16799401
Because /jp/ is /v/, right?

>>16799433
You're right, I suppose we should stop having Touhou threads then.

I tried watching the anime. I got to episode 8. When does the plot start? I'm guessing never.

>>16799442
Touhou is a doujin series. Doujin works are /jp/

>>16799725
Nobody here ever talks about the games though.

>>16799815
Then it's fine. /jp/ isn't /v/ after all.

So the C is a boy, right?

So the MC is a boy, right?

>>16799531
I'm watching it now, seems like the plot is to travel to the library, maybe with a mystery about why the park is abandoned and what the Ceruleans are

>>16800057
Seems pretty obviously a girl

>>16794634
I guess the anon that you cited are referred about the apearance, not the whole character

>>16799815
literaly /jp/ have these in the last months >>16787509

>>16780920

Sigh... I hope this isn't a real phenomenon

>>16801661
I guess you haven't been paying attention to Japan.
>Sigh...
ew

>>16794777
>aggressively territorial
>protective of their young
>motherly ara-ara type
It's a loose connection but I can see it.

Also she's kind of a dick.

>>16800517
This is a boy, anon.

>>16802208
Well, all the friends we've come across so far has never been straight up jerks (They are called Friend for a reason)
Hippo seemed like the "I told you so" kind of girl.

>>16802257
The child is referred to as a "she" by the Friends. It's a girl.

>>16802644
Well, she's rather blunt in telling Kaban she can't do anything, and then telling Serval that despite being able to do a lot she's so silly it goes to waste.

And she kept mentioning how the rule of Japari Park is that you can't rely on others to help you, despite no one else in the park thinking like that.

It's a far cry from a hippo's aggressiveness, but she is fairly sharp with her words.

>>16802670
Yes, yes, I know, I was just meming

Are there boy kemono friends? If not, why not?

>>16802699
Boys are gross.

>>16802699
They're gay.

>>16802720
They wouldn't have to be gay if there were boys for them to be kemono friends with.

>>16802729
The point is the kind of people they attract. Fujos, teenage girls, gays, people who want to be the catboy.

>>16802753
What's wrong with that? They want to be more successful and have more fanart and widespread appeal.

>>16802763
It's bad for people who just want cute girls.

>>16802699
No.

Because sandstar.

>>16802699
There just aren't. Similar appeal to say, Touhou (yes I know Kourin exists but he barely counts)

>>16799401
You got me mad now

>>16802769
Those people are worse than fujoshi. (because fujoshi at least let girls exist in their worlds)

>>16803066
I'm being serious. Lots of /jp/ things are good because they have only cute girls, or mostly cute girls.

>>16803158
Like what? Touhou and Kancolle? But Kancolle isn't /jp/, so not even that. Vocaloid has guys, VNs have guys, other douin game series have guys.

Also this series isn't remotely /jp/. It's /a/ all the way and Dog Days was a better kemonomimi series than this trash in S1 and S2 and it also had a few males in it.

>>16803174
But in all of those cases, they're either self inserts, or don't matter much/are villains. it's common knowledge that cute animal girls are pure, animal boys are not.

>>16803198
But in all of those cases, they're either self inserts, or don't matter much/are villains.
No they aren't.

>>16803174
Haremshit is trash. Basically everything you mentioned is trash, their main purpose being self inserting .

>>16803198
>But in all of those cases, they're either self inserts, or don't matter much/are villains.
No they aren't. Also you're starting to sound like those creepers in the monmusu thread.

>>16803233
>>16803224
>The main characters in the vast majority of VNs aka dating sims are not blatant self inserts
Yeah right, not even that guy but thats just wrong

>>16803233
I many cases then. How many popular male vocalods are there? Len? In the first Fate/Night most of the men are villains or minor. There's nothing wrong with having male charters, but it's wrong to fill it up with gay shit like kemono boys.

>>16803255
>VNs aka dating sims
Trying to hard buddy. Back to your home board.

>>16802713
>>16802720
>>16802753
>>16802769
I hate people like this.

2D needs to stop being so divided into for men and for women shows.

>>16803258
The only thing gay is a work full of lezzies.

I'm a guy and I would really like a moe show with male characters. I'm bored of japs pushing their tired "girls = cute, boys = not" message down my throat

>>16803279
Your logic doesn't make much sense.

Boys cant be cute.

>>16803268

>>16803453
Stop projecting loser

>>16803486
I dont think you know what projecting means.

>>16803174
It doesn't take that much of a leap to say that Touhou belongs on /v/ by the same logic.

I'm not going to say yet that Kemono Friends belongs on /jp/, but I think it stands a good chance of becoming something that belongs here. It's shaping up into a very heavily doujin work-driven fandom with a very small Western base and a large Japanese one, and where most of the Western fan culture is adapted directly from Japan's. It also hits much closer to /jp/'s demographic than /a/'s.

>>16803492
Elaborate

>>16803509
/jp/ - I don't like /a/ so I want to move my /a/ thread here

>>16803531
On what?
Boys cant be cute thats a fact, unless you're some 3d pig who thinks otherwise.
Or if you dont know the meaning of a word you can just google it.

>>16803577
I am 3D and I think otherwise

sorry

>>16803591
You must be faggot as shit since there are no girls here.

>>16803453
>>16803486
>>16803492
>>16803531
>>16803577
>>16803591
>>16803615
Epic shitposts Anons, keep it up!

>>16802699
>If not, why not?
Because they didn't want to make them

Why are there negligible boy Touhou characters? Same thing, ZUN just used mythological characters and youkai instead of animals

>>16803615
What has gender got to do with it? If you think moe is just an outlet for your sexual/romantic fantasies you don't really understand moe.

>>16803727
You cant seperate gender from what one finds cute. Its instinct.
Dont try to spin it with sexual/romantic fantasies.

>>16803762
I don't find 99%+ of men in real life attractive at all but gender has nothing to do with finding 2D characters cute for me. They're just pictures.

Also plenty of girls like idols/watch shows like love live without being lesbians. Everyone wants to have cute friends even if it doesn't involve having sex with them.

>>16803766
How does this condradict what I say?
Who asked you who you find attractive?

>>16803809
You implied that you can't find guys cute as a guy. I'm trying to explain one can still find them cute in a moe way without wanting to have sex with them.

I /could/ find more guys in real life cute but they don't try to act in the endearing, childlike manner that would elicit that response usually because of arbitrary cultural reasons. So 2D is all that's left practically.

>>16803766
This is not your blog.

>>16803820
I'm just trying to explain true moe culture since evidently things have gotten lost in translation somewhere to some people. Maybe to some people it's in the same category as their JAV whores but I feel uncomfortable with this treatment.

>>16803816
ew

>>16803541
/jp/ - I don't like /a/ so anything they ever touched is haram.

>>16803577
>Adjective
>cute (comparative cuter, superlative cutest)
>Possessing physical features, behaviors, personality traits or other properties that are mainly attributed to infants and small or cuddly animals; e.g. fair, dainty, round, and soft physical features, disproportionately large eyes and head, playfulness, fragility, helplessness, curiosity or shyness, innocence, affectionate behavior.
>Generally, attractive or pleasing, especially in a youthful, dainty, quaint or fun-spirited way.
>Affected or contrived to charm; mincingly clever; precious; cutesy.
>Mentally keen or discerning; clever; shrewd; see acute.

>>16803899
Boys cant be cute confirmed.

>>16803905
Please don't have kids. Any boys you have will feel neglected due to this bias of yours.

>>16803541
Isn't that pretty much exactly how most of the things on /jp/ ended up here? It's pretty much all either that or "/a/ didn't like us so we moved our thread here." Hell, that's how /jp/ started in the first place.

>>16803916
Most of the generals you mean, with /a/ also replaced with /e/, /d/, /s/ etc.. All real /jp/ topics were forced here against their will.

>It's pretty much all either that or "/a/ didn't like us so we moved our thread here." Hell, that's how /jp/ started in the first place.
So yeah. /jp/ - we had no choice, not /jp/ - my friends are here nor /jp/ - I like you now all of a sudden, even though I treated you like Jews in Germany not even a decade ago nor /jp/ - the other mods won't bother me if I keep my thread here

>>16803939
Also regarding this
>"/a/ didn't like us so we moved our thread here."

/jp/ started more like "moot moved our topics here".
Those few /a/ threads that moved here because they weren't liked on /a/ need to go back. Why they can come here and tell /jp/ to fuck off, but not tell /a/ to fuck off while there are other similar threads still there is beyond me. And that "It's an LN" excuse doesn't cut it. You could make topics about any othe rLN on /jp/ and you barely ever see any discussion on /jp/., yet a few certain spineless faggots come and trample all over the board and post lewds all day.

>>16803939
Also regarding this
>"/a/ didn't like us so we moved our thread here."

/jp/ started more like "moot moved our topics here".
Those few /a/ threads that moved here because they weren't liked on /a/ need to go back. Why they can come here and tell /jp/ to fuck off, but not tell /a/ to fuck off while there are other similar threads still there is beyond me. And that "It's an LN" excuse doesn't cut it. You could make topics about any other LN on /jp/, and yet you barely ever see any discussion on /jp/ instead of /a/, yet a few certain spineless faggots come and trample all over the board and post lewds all day.

>>16803959
Yeah, that's a better way of putting it. I was here when /jp/ started so I remember how it went down.

It's a hard situation over on /a/ these days, the mods have lost their fucking minds and delete our generals if we admit that they're generals but allow endless template shitpost threads to stay up. (Among other things, for example discussing metadiscussing the anime industry is bannable now.) Even when the mods don't interfere, the threads are all overrun with people trolling, too. (Those of you who were around for the last days of 2hu on /a/ will know exactly what that's like.)

Maybe Hiro will leave /can/ up and solve the problem about where KF belongs for us.

>>16804048
>the problem about where KF belongs for us.
Currently it is only an anime. For what possible reason could it not be on /a/?

>>16779875
Literally who?

>>16804061
Soon new KF game(s) will be made, in which case it has as much argument to be in /jp/ as anything made by DMM. And you have DMM general.

>>16804106
DMM has no argument and no place here other than presumably being untranslated. There's also /vg/. /jp/ isn't the weeb games board. Furthermore plenty of anime have games and you can talk about them on /a/. I'm pretty sure Kancolle being a game didn't stop anime discussion on /a/.

>>16803959
>Those few /a/ threads that moved here because they weren't liked on /a/ need to go back.
Can you give me a few examples?

>>16804148
The monstergirl thread that exists on at least 4 seperate boards and really needs to go to /d/ honestly since tehy claim to not be about anything but the idea of monstergirls rather than anime or that pathetic encyclopedia universe for total queers.

The Overlord thread which either gave up or went back to /a/ anyway because mods wouldn't protect it here either.

The Horizon tread which is the only one of several LN threads that got moved here for a while that won't go back, or else merge with the LN threads. It doesn't really need a thread of its own.

The /djt/ thread that absolutely does not belong here and can just fuse with the one in /int/ or move back to /a/ or beg on /qa/ for /lang/ to be remade. (Why doesn't it belong here? For the same reason "translate it weebs" type threads don't.)

>>16804061
That's actually kind of an iffy area, because it's 3DCG. It doesn't get the same kind of mod tolerance that a traditional 2D show does, and I think if the shitposting continues the whole show might be banned.

Aside from that, though, a large percentage of discussion in KF threads has been metadiscussion about the series as a phenomenon in Japan and much of the posting is fanart and doujin work. Now that the anime has ended, I think that will become the majority of discussion, and that means the threads will be closer to "Otaku Culture" than to "Anime and Manga" in many ways.

Anyway, I'm not making an actual request for moving the threads, more just presenting the topic as a subject for consideration, if that makes sense. I also think it's worth maybe thinking about how we want to handle things if KF moves here, because I think there's a very good chance that the mods might make the choice for us.

>>16803509
Kemono Friends as a franchise is all but indefensible on /jp/ (I guess if you put Touhou in the OP nobody will notice) but if at some point it becomes a media mix project it might be a defensible topic. I like the series and I like to think it will become the next Touhou / Idolmaster / Kancolle franchise with a massive doujin scene and 200+ girls but right now it's just an anime and manga given that the game is dead.

Maybe they can just have it in /can/.

>>16802699
This is touched on a little bit during an interview.

>>16804273
>and 200+ girls
There were 365 girls in the defunct game. Almost twice of your expectation.

>>16804273
>if at some point it becomes a media mix project

There's already a new game confirmed (no details though), and the old one might be coming back too.

>>16804231
>That's actually kind of an iffy area, because it's 3DCG.
So are lots of anime.
>But it's LOW QUALITY CG, not high quality like the Blame! Movie!
Gdgd Faires didn't have a problem, nor SeHa Girls, nor Straightforward Title Robot Anime, nor Tesagure, or any of the other similar shows made in MMD. That is not remotely an excuse.

>I think if the shitposting continues the whole show might be banned.
Oh-fucking-well. Complain in /qa/, the feedback page, and to Hiro that anime isn't being allowed in /a/.

If you just want to post fanart, that it literally what /c/ is for. There's nothing to discuss about a series that does not have active first party content, which is the entire problem with generals. Also do not make it a general and problem is solved. Just let the topic drop with the anime and discuss it every so often. You don't have to be thinking "oh no, how do I save my clubhouse thread!"

>that the mods might make the choice for us.
You don't have to listen to them, you know. You don't even have to use this site.

>>16804276
A friend for every day of the year!

I like KF too and its culture but the only noteworthy thing about it is the anime. I don't think it can stand on it's own for /jp/ yet.

>>16804273
>Idolmaster
You shouldn't really compare that. It has 13 main girls and a bunch of spinoff mobile game bullshit. The mobile games are popular, but the series focus is still on the main old ones. It's also an old series with multiple games with a gameplay that's more than "cute girls".

Touhou is a doujin series that only has lots of characters because fans can't let throwaway bosses go, but it's been running for a long time too. Things like Kancolle and this that attempt to rush out a ton of girls aren't really on the same level, whether there's shitposting about it or not. Most likely Granblue is going to, if not already has, become the next thing.

>>16804303
>You don't have to listen to them, you know. You don't even have to use this site.

I meant "us" as in /jp/, I'm a regular here, and if the mods say "KF is banned from /a/, it belongs on /jp/," it's going to be everybody's problem.

I agree with you that it should stay on /a/, but the mods have been pretty erratic lately and it's hard to predict what will happen. Remember that gdgd, STRA, and Tesagure all happened during the Moot era, and it's been since he left that /a/'s moderation has really gone full cancer.

There's a reason everyone hates your shit Kememe Furries. Now you plan to spread on my home board too.

>>16804323
Officially the main focus is still on 765, but it's precisely because their fans have had ten years to wring the creative faucet dry that (or at least from what I recall is the case) there's more Cinderella Girls work put out these days at Comiket, and thanks to the criminal popularity of mobile gaming they may be running hotter at the present.

I agree that Touhou is not really comparable except in so far as a superficial comparison as king of the doujin scene, but that's had powerful impact in and of itself. I can't say anything about Granblue because I never got into it, but my personal pocket hope for KF is that it ends up being a fun, open-ended universe inviting fan participation but not shitty like how half the stuff Kancolle puts out has ended up. One of the attractions of all of these is a large shared secondary scene, not just because of trending bandwagon social status but because the more stuff there is the stronger the feeling there is a truly neverending world of fan-created content.

There are no unloved characters and the interviews of all creators show that they've tried to put thought into everyone's character design, but one of the hopes I got from KF is what I had hoped for Kancolle in its early years, when it felt like there was a whole new world of creative possibility opening up that was eventually lost in an endless sea of contextless trivia collections and panty questing. The people behind KF seem like they're being significantly more circumspect with the IP. I hope this isn't just a flash in the pan bandwagon event and that the series will produce great things in the years to come.

>>16804374
>contextless trivia collections and panty questing
I'm perplexed. Care to elaborate more?

>endless sea of
Oh you /jp/anon.

>>16803959
>All real /jp/ topics were forced here against their will.
...and quickly realized that /jp/ is simply a better board, for any kind of discussion. And one of the factors was that the "if I whine and shitpost enough I can purge anything I don't like" retards of your kind mostly stayed behind on /a/.

Too bad it couldn't last.

This thread was a nice diversion but realistically KF belongs on /a/ since most of the discussion is about the anime.

I actually think slightly off topic threads like this one once in a while are nice for the board. Better than yet another /e/ dump

>>16804429
I agree go back to your containment threads. Do us a favor.

>>16804374
The problem is does KF have anything to latch on to? You can say it's fun and cute, but that's superficial. If they're just cute girls for people to make porn of, how can it amount to anything? Is there some real substantial or even flaky plot people can branch off fanfictions expansions/remakes of? Do the characters have interesting enough, not "well defined", but interesting enough personalities and relationships to make doujin stories about? Do they have anything to latch on to make fangames of? Creating your own characters and the producers going "yeah sure, they're in the world" isn't really going to work out that well, I don't think.

Like right now, if you were going to make a fan work, describe a scene or moment from the show you'd base it on.

>>16804389
>"if I whine and shitpost enough I can purge anything I don't like" retards mostly stayed behind on /a/.

You really are new to /jp/ then. The only reason /a/ threads weren't destroyed on sight is due to the mods babysitting those threads 24/7 to the point they probably moved them from /a/ for no other reason than they wanted them on /jp/.

>>16804388
I think that the historical aspect of Kancolle is mostly relegated to a trivia aspect. I had expected it to take center stage in a variety of official media given that it forms a core characterization of many of the girls' personalities in the game, in a way that is quite appealing because it exemplifies the struggling fighting girl.

>実戦ですか･･･致し方ありませんね
>私を沈めたいなら、魚雷5、6本くらい撃ち込まないと…駄目よ！
>こんな痛み……金剛や信濃に比べたら……！次の、坊ノ岬では……負けないわ

It's good stuff. It feels to me, though, like a lot of the other media - serialized comics, the compilations, the anime for sure - just tosses all the girls into a pile and relegates the treatment of history to its most generic when it deigns to touch on it at all. When a gag 4koma has a deeper treatment of history than all your other media combined (well, I think the cranes LN touched on this, so if it invalidates what I'm saying more fool me) you've got a problem on your hands. I realize that this is a series that people go into looking for fun and it's my fault for expecting anything different but I was a big war nerd when I was getting into this series and it's not really about war in the slightest, but a disconnected set of historical facts.

As for the panty quest aspect, well, it's a game whose core visual mechanic is clothing damage and whose big advancement token is getting married to the girls. It was ecchi bait to start with and people responded to the call. This doesn't bother me too much in and of itself - KF was envisioned from the ground up as an "all-ages" series and it's still going to get truckloads of porn - but sometimes it starts to feel like there's all there is. The universe simply feels "shallow", in comparison to Gensokyo, which is both philosophical and layered both in canon and in room for secondary exploration. Japari Park, well... there isn't much to Japari Park, but at least it's trying to ride on charm that's a bit less aggressive.

>>16804470
The first thing that came to mind is something I saw a two-panel Twitter for:
>Tsuchinoko tries to show Sand Cat around the ruins, but her ability to get bored of anything swiftly pisses her off.
Well, that's the main joke. So I'd expand that into a longer series: draw out the meeting with more dialogue, add more of the relics of lost (lost?) humanity to the ruins, a dramatic event that gets them in trouble for added tension and fun, and capping off with some vague philosophical feel-good crap about why Sand Cat is the way she is.

Like other than that here's some ideas that it'd be easy to spin a story around: inherited memories from their animal forms; memory loss melodrama; the battle for Japari Park; animals attempting and failing to use technology; the takeover of park functions by the Friends; any number of PPP idol stories; INSERT NEW FRIEND HERE. And then there's the usual stuff that works for any series: stupid grimderp renditions, cheap gag comics, two characters meet and have an unexpected interaction, random shipping, and so on. Maybe there's not much more than what I've already thought of here but it feels like there's a lot of possibility out there to me.

>>16804388
I think that the historical aspect of Kancolle is mostly relegated to a trivia aspect. I had expected it to take center stage in a variety of official media given that it forms a core characterization of many of the girls' personalities in the game, in a way that is quite appealing because it exemplifies the struggling fighting girl. Some lines I quite like are:

Houshou, deployment:
>実戦ですか･･･致し方ありませんね
Yahagi, major damage:
>私を沈めたいなら、魚雷5、6本くらい撃ち込まないと…駄目よ！
Hamakaze, major damage:
>こんな痛み……金剛や信濃に比べたら……！次の、坊ノ岬では……負けないわ
Maikaze, marriage:
>提督にだけ言うけど私…本当は、怖くて仕方ないの…だから、踊りで紛らわせているの…
Also a variety of ship sinking lines, although you can only ever get those from compilations unless you're a real kuso TTK.

A lot of these lines are good stuff. It feels to me, though, like much of the other media - serialized comics, the compilations, the anime for sure - just toss all the girls into a pile and relegate the treatment of history to its most generic when it deigns to touch on it at all. When a gag 4koma has a deeper treatment of history than all your other media combined (well, I think the cranes LN touched on this, so if it invalidates what I'm saying more fool me) you've got a problem on your hands. Yeah, this is a series that people go into looking for fun and it's my fault for expecting anything different but I was a big war nerd when I was getting into this series and it's feels like it's much more about a disconnected set of historical facts than about any sort of actual war.

As for the panty quest aspect, well, it's a game whose core visual mechanic is clothing damage and whose big advancement token is getting married to the girls. It was ecchi bait to start with and people responded to the call. This doesn't bother me too much in and of itself - KF was envisioned from the ground up as an "all-ages" series and it's still going to get truckloads of porn - but sometimes it starts to feel like there's all there is. The universe simply feels "shallow", in comparison to Gensokyo, which is both philosophical and layered both in canon and in room for secondary exploration. Japari Park, well... there isn't much to Japari Park, but at least it's trying to ride on charm that's a bit less aggressive.

>>16804470
The first thing that came to mind is something I saw a two-panel Twitter for:
>Tsuchinoko tries to show Sand Cat around the ruins, but her ability to get bored of anything swiftly pisses her off.
Well, that's the main joke. So I'd expand that into a longer series: draw out the meeting with more dialogue, add more of the relics of lost (?) humanity to the ruins, a dramatic event that gets them in trouble for added tension and fun, and capping off with some vague philosophical feel-good crap about why Sand Cat is the way she is.

Some other that it'd be easy to spin a story around: inherited memories from animal forms; memory loss melodrama; the battle for Japari Park; animals attempting and failing to use technology; the takeover of park functions by the Friends; sports and other Kaban-led innovations spread across Japari Park; any number of PPP idol stories; INSERT NEW FRIEND HERE. And then there's the usual stuff that works for any series: stupid grimderp renditions, cheap gag comics, two characters meet and have an unexpected interaction, random shipping, and so on. Maybe there's not much more than what I've already thought of here but it feels like there's a lot of possibility out there to me.

>>16804470
Yes, there's actually a ton of stuff like that, more than pretty much any comparable series had at this point in its lifespan actually. The show actually has a totally cohesive plot and very good worldbuilding, and those things are the main reasons it took off to such a degree.

When KF suddenly exploded into the worldwide Twitter trends and stuff after episode 11, it was specifically because of what happened in the plot in that episode, if that gives you an idea of how things are. Most of the discussion here on 4chan was speculation about the world and the direction the plot would take and things like that, too. The 3000+ posts per day on /a/ weren't caused by "look at mai waifu isn't she cute?," it was anons continuously bouncing theories and speculah off of one another that really kept things moving.

KF is pretty much nothing BUT moments to base fan works off of, too. Part of what makes it so compelling is that characters and settings never feel like something that was just created for the main characters to encounter, but rather like a "living" thing that the plot just happens to wander through and influence. Fan works almost write themselves as you watch through KF.

>>16804550
How much are they paying you?

>>16804470
The best comparison I can make is actually to one of 4chan's favorite series of all time, Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou.

KF has a very similar vibe, even if it's not as obvious at first. It's a comfy and slow but steady journey through a world that just makes you beg for answers. I'm actually shocked I never thought to make the YKK comparison until seeing it earlier today, because even the KF threads remind me a lot of YKK threads back in the day.

>>16804568
Three smooth rocks and a really nice leaf.

Actually I just really love this series and want people to give it a chance, because I thought it looked like babby's first moeshit and was some kind of meme until I gave it a fair shot, and now it's one of my favorite anime of all time.

>>16804568
$japariman

>>16804568
free furry commissions from tumblr

I really feel bad for people who dismissed it because of the medium used. The experiences with other anon was pretty fun. Ep 11 threads were fucking unforgettable.

>>16804580
Why /jp/? I peeked at your thread today and it seems every interested /jp/anon is already there.

>>16804539
What is it about mecha musume anyway? It's been a thing for like decades but it's never really achieved any real popularity. Even stuff like Strike Witches never really caught on to the extent of being a big doujin thing beyond porn and stuff and there was never any big breakthrough with Busou Shinki even though the toys seem popular enough. You would think there would be some big mecha musume series but Kancolle is probably the height of what's been achieved. There's no "This is a fixture of otaku culture" type series or stuff with like a dozen games and anime. Maybe it's more of a "re-imagine the Sengoku period every year" kind of thing since they tend to be based on World Wars. Even so you'd think there'd be a "THE" mecha musume series. I also wonder why there's no tank based one, with Girls und Panzer sort of filling the role. Were tank legs too silly to animate after airplane legs?

As for Kancole, I feel like the designs of their enemy ships are squandered on that series. They're the most interesting thing about the work visually.

>>16804603
I'm a /jp/ regular. I didn't make this thread, it was already around 100 replies then I first noticed it and replied, and then I just kind of got drawn into the discussion.

I'm also by no means the only person who's replied in favor of KF. I'm also not the one who's been suggesting it over on /a/, I just thought it was an ok idea and I'm the kind of friend who likes playing devil's advocate when given the choice.

Plus I really like the show and just can't resist replying when somebody's asking questions about it or making assumptions. I've seen people point out that rather than being moe for the characters people are actually moe for the show itself, and I guess it's true for me. When people talk shit on KF it's like they're insulting mai waifu and I just can't help but want to say something. (Which isn't helped by the fact that I write PR/ad copy for a living and banging out persuasive walls of text is reflexive for me, which come to think of it might by why I sound like a paid shill to people.)

>>16804573
The only answer I begged for with YKK is why the robots need to dyke out to transfer data. It is a nice series, at least from the anime I watched but it's a bit... eh. As for a dying off of humans world, I sort of liked Jinrui for that better.

>>16804580
What episode makes it not look like 'babby's first moeshit'? I mean I don't really hate it, there are some shitty anime like that dragon show which I actually dislike, but KF seems so, so uninteresting and lacking in substance even having watched some of it. I don't really get the appeal besides animal girls and if that was all, I could just watch Nyanko Days and get the same in 2 minutes. I was able to at least watch whole episode of KF though, so I can bother with one more.

Out of curiosity, what do you Kemono Friends fans think of this series? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAEEE49CB2C11AEDE

>>16804671
Don't bother. It's exactly as it looks like, moe uguu trash with kawaii furry girls

>>16804616
It might just be the prudish Westerner in me talking, but I feel like mecha musume can never really escape the notion that it is weird fetish shit.

There might be other problems, too. Once you replace enough of the girl with machine it's hard to envision them living ordinary lives. And if you're just talking girls in suits, well, is the suit really a part of their identity? Or are they more like ordinary mecha pilots? Kancolle threads this needle by setting up the girls up as actual warships and having its characterization be complete bullshit.

>I also wonder why there's no tank based one, with Girls und Panzer sort of filling the role. Were tank legs too silly to animate after airplane legs?
There is a tank girl game, Milihime Taisen, but it never really reached enough popularity for people to consider animating anything for it since I'm pretty sure people dismissed it as a cheap Kancolle spinoff without even trying it out. I sure did. Not really quite what you were looking for, though.

>>16804671
It feels a bit more like a kids show than most shows you're probably thinking of, and has travel, mystery, and adventure elements woven into it starting from the second episode. Also, an entertaining stable of guest characters who take their leave before their gimmick gets annoying. People go on and on about speculah and the mystery of the apocalypse, but I think that if you aren't even slightly intrigued by Episode 2 the show is simply not for you.

All characters except the lead and Lucky Beast are arguably in fact dumb moe uguu kawaii furry girls so if that's offensive to you you won't have a good time either but I think the fact that you got this far means you're beyond it.

>>16804671
You would have to read YKK's manga to get the comparison, the anime was basically just fanservice for manga fans and didn't go into much of anything. We had nonstop threads on /a/ (which was easier back in those days, of course) with very similar discourse to what we had in KF threads a few weeks ago, because the manga was packed solid with obvious foreshadowing and mystery.

The collective scream of anons when the manga suddenly ended without answering anything could be heard around the world.

As for KF, it really starts to "hook" most people around episode 3. Ep1 is a really really bad indication what the rest of the series is going to be like. Almost everybody says the same thing, that they had to force themselves through 1, that 2 wasn't anything special, and then they watched 3 and were suddenly obsessed with the series.

>>16804438
>Do us a favor.
are you fucking kidding me

have you seen /jp/? And you're acting like a single thread about an anime for once is heresy.

>>16804671
>What episode makes it not look like 'babby's first moeshit'?
1.

But if you're really a stuffy cunt, 4.

>>16804756
it's arguably heresy in so far as threads that got "too anime" (or, for that matter, "too meta") used to be shot on sight thanks to the combined efforts of many people who worked very hard to make things that way

cross your fingers

>>16804760
Now instead we've got idol group generals, JAV, monstergirls, creepy doll threads, and whatever other trash is thrown this way.

Excellent work.

>>16804761
doll threads and kig threads both date from the split and as for the rest i really can't think of anything good that could possibly result from trying to have the rest of this conversation in this thread

mostly i blame >>16804756 for bringing it up again

Why does noone ever pick up on the episode 1 subplot about all the Friends not knowing what a human is despite the existence of human structures?
It gets pretty in your face by episode 3, yet it usually takes snek spelling it out to everyone for people to start seeing it.
This kind of thing is probably why we have so many people saying that the show somehow takes a dark twist in the later episodes.

>>16804761
Oh no! Topics that were discussed on /jp/ from the start are still discussed on /jp/, whatever will we do?

>>16804734
>Not really quite what you were looking for, though.
See pic. I thought this kind of thing was alongside the stuff that spawned strike witched so I'm sort of surprised there was never a ground version.

>It feels a bit more like a kids show than most shows you're probably thinking of
I watch actual kid shows sometimes. Being childish doesn't have anything to do with enjoyment.

>I think that if you aren't even slightly intrigued by Episode 2 the show is simply not for you.
I don't really watch shows I sample from the beginning because most anime seems to like to take a while to get up to speed. If it's interesting, watching the interesting parts will make me go back and watch it, else it's not interesting enough. That said, as you saying something interesting happened in episode 2? I just asked to pick like an, or the most, interesting episode and I'd give it a shot. I mentioned earlier I had watched episode 3, I believe. It was just about climbing a mountain and going into a restaurant and some annoying bird that failed to be amusing. Nothing of relevance really seemed to happen the whole episode. It was just like a longer version of that mushroom anime I keep mentioning, to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pTTuIURGQ4
Except KF didn't blind me when I tried it. (incidentally, it's a little insulting but if you watch from 9:54 or so on, it's sort of what I imagine people enjoying either of these shows are like.)

But seriously. Is it episode 2? Or say any other episode and I'll give it a shot. Or maybe I'll watch episode 11 sine people keep mentioning it for some reason.

I like animal girls but they can't drive a show just by being animal people.


One more off topic question: Since you visit /a/, how was that little witch girl show? I like the two ovas but I'm not confident Trigger could pull off an entire series without it turning into incomprehensible crap. Did that turn out okay?

>>16804798
>Or maybe I'll watch episode 11
Why do people do this

>>16804798
>I like the two ovas but I'm not confident Trigger could pull off an entire series without it turning into incomprehensible crap.
Shit taste confirmed.

(Answering your question, LWA has been disappointing, not bad, but not good either)

>>16804784
>Topics that were discussed on /jp/ from the start

>>16804798
>there was never a ground version
There was. A manga.

>maybe I'll watch episode 11
Don't be stupid. The only reason episode 11 works is due to the entire series before it.

>>16804798
LWA anime isn't as enjoyable as the OVAs. You are right Trigger cant pull off an entire series with it

>>16804777
Generals are a very recent thing. Here and there things aside /jp/ was created for Touhou.

>>16804798
The show has the overarching plot of Kaban trying to get to the library to find out what kind of animal she is, and each episode also has its own plot of a particular girl having a problem and Serval and Kaban helping her out. Episodes 11 and 12 are the resolution to the overall plot so jumping straight to watching them is no good. Honestly if you watched one episode and didn't like it I doubt you'll like the rest of the show.

Also Little Witch Academia is still in the middle of airing but the episodes that have aired so far haven't been as good as the OVAs. It's still enjoyable though

>>16804807
>>16804812
That really sounds like the only reason people like is so much is in restrospect of the episode. It also implies there's an actual plot that builds up, although people keep saying there's not really a plot, just world building stuff. So what's so special about that episode that requires 10 episodes of girls drinking tea or whatever beforehand?

>>16804826
>That really sounds like the only reason people like is so much is in restrospect of the episode.
I thought I told you to NOT be stupid.

>>16804798
>skipping the whole journey straight to the payoff
I appreciate you at least tried it but I don't think it's for you.

>>16804821
>Kaban trying to get to the library to find out what kind of animal she is
So what, she's not a human is the big plot revelation or something?

>>16804826
Actually never mind, I gut reacted here >>16804829

Listen if a story does something wild after connecting you to characters it's going to cause a reaction. This should be obvious. What does it do special? It makes you care.

>>16804832
Part of the appeal of the show is that you know she's a human but nobody else does.

Despite this there are obvious touches of human influence throughout. People know it's called "Japari Park". Parks are manmade.

The situation screams of something horrible having happened to humanity, but the show is cute overall and the characters do not notice or care that the ruins surrounding them are ruins.

>>16804832
No, it's pretty obvious since the beginning that she's a human, so that's a mystery more for the characters than the audience. It's still the character's goal.

The real mystery for the audience is knowing where Kaban came from and if there are more humans around.

>>16804798
I think that the series is not for you. I thought you had only watched Episode 1. Episode 2 is "interesting" in that the travelogue begins and they find the broken down bus, which makes it clear that the park is in a serious state of disrepair and that something strange is going on.

The investigation into the mystery of the park is only ever a small part of most episodes. I would argue that maybe some things about episode three will feel more natural if you had watched them in order but if you think that most of these characters are dumb (and they are objectively rather dumb, being former animals) rather than endearing then I'm not gonna argue the point. If the guest characters are not fun enough to hold your attention for 20 minutes, and you do not think Serval is tanoshii, then the things that they are trying to sell you will not seem nearly as awesome to you as to them.

>>16804820
The doll thread and the kig thread were general threads before anyone on 4chan knew what a general thread was.

>>16804849
>The doll thread and the kig thread were general threads before anyone on 4chan knew what a general thread was.
If you say so, admittedly I've always avoided them. Sounds like Strike Witches post-season 1 threads.

>>16804849
Well I guess I don't see the mystery then. I mean the fact that there are humanoid animals is weird enough in itself. Why's it any weirder the park is in disrepair? They mentioned some weird thing mutated them into humans or whatever, so you'd figure people would get the hell away or all merged with the animals.

But it's probably not for me. It sounds like one of those kinds of series were all the plot is in the final episodes after fucking around most of the series (e.g. cowboy bebob) and I don't really enjoy that sort of thing. Mystery and travel and whatnot reminds me of Kaiba, but Kaiba always had a sense of danger and there were plots going on and bits of infomation you were trying to put together. The one downside is that kind of thing sort of makes the series pointless to watch again, and if KF is like that, then I probably can't get interested enough to watch all the previous episodes and make it to it. It's hard enough to bring myself to watch 30 minute long anime I enjoy nowadays.

I also might have a fundamental problem in that I don't think most of the characters I've seen even in fanart are cute. I don't even like (the gloves and tie of) Serval's outfit. I knew that one titty penguin was going to show up the most in porn though.

>>16804758
I'll just try 4, I guess, and give up if that doesn't work.

>>16804812
Well of course you don't remember, but warosu does, so I'm not really sure why you're trying to push your silly alternative reality.

>>16804890
The interest is in trying to figure out what happened, what Japari Park really is, who/what Kaban really is, etc. The whole show is also full of all kinds of little background details and offhand comments and foreshadowing that really got the community talking and thinking about what was going on.

Honestly though, I think it's going to be harder to get into the show now, because so much of the fun was being part of the threads as it aired. That said, I got into it late (episode 9) and still enjoyed the previous episodes without being able to discuss it as it happened, and there's almost certainly a season 2 coming, so that will hopefully bring back some of the magic.

>>16804812
The manga wasn't the ground version.

The actual ground version isn't actually a public work - it's Yoshizaki's notes. The way the whole KF thing works is that he came up with the broad details of the setting and most of the characters (including their visual designs) and then passes things on as necessary to the creators of each part of the franchise. The game, manga, and anime were all created in parallel, rather than one being an adaptation of another, and future works will likely be the same way. (Aside from a direct sequel to the anime.)

>>16804890
Well it was conceived as a healing anime first like Aikatsu according to the producer. I think the biggest mistake anyone going in into this post airing is that its some post apocalyptic scifi deep stuff which is not wrong but not the main selling point. It's a light and fluffy anime for relieving stress. The plot has always been this lost girl found herself in a giant safari park and wants to find out what kind of animal she is, while meeting the different endearing inhabitants of the said park, which arguably are the main attraction each episode for the fans. It continues to be that way until the very end.

>It's hard enough to bring myself to watch 30 minute long anime I enjoy nowadays.
Might be that too. It's really a series that rewards build up and growing with the characters. But it is nice for you to at least try before dismissing it.

>I also might have a fundamental problem in that I don't think most of the characters I've seen even in fanart are cute.
Well I can't help you there. Stockings and arm gloves while showing armpits are the best.

>>16804930
I was talking about Strike Witches.

>>16804917
>I think it's going to be harder to get into the show now, because so much of the fun was being part of the threads as it aired
it's not because
>I got into it late (episode 9) and still enjoyed the previous episodes without being able to discuss it as it happened
same here, though I came in at 8

The show allows you to speculate and freak out on your own. Threads are just a bonus. I AM really happy I joined before episode 10, though, just for all the shitstorms.

>>16804948
I joined in at 5 when the fanart never stopped popping out. Checked /a/ if there was a thread and I was surprised they could like 3DCG.

>>16804850
>>16804849
>>16804761
>creepy doll threads
I used to like the doll threads. They were full of cute dolls and cute cats. There was also a better sense of photography in them. Somehow a few years ago they went though some metamorphosis where /cgl/ types flooded in and replaced all the cute dolls with creepy dollfies. Now everything is creepy dollfies and guys modding gigantic tits onto them.

>>16804963
how sad

>>16804963
My only experience with the doll thread is seeing a screencap of a guy in there explaining how he almost got married to the loli daughter of an African warlord.

>>16804917
>Honestly though, I think it's going to be harder to get into the show now, because so much of the fun was being part of the threads as it aired
I'm not really a bandwagoner, so it wouldn't matter either way. The only show I could even think of applying that to for me is probably Akikan.

>>16804931
>It's really a series that rewards build up and growing with the characters.
I don't really get that attached to anime characters either.

>>16804931
Liking and adoring Serval's friendly and curious character is arguably the biggest part into liking KF. Kaban did start on a meek blank slate.

>>16804941
Oh gotcha, I guess I misread.

>>16804963
I hate to say it but I own several of those creepy dollfies.

I've only posted them a couple of times, though, and I don't do lewds with them or anything.

>>16804976
>I don't really get that attached to anime characters either.
Oh then you will never enjoy it no matter how hard you try since >>16804977
Some people have different tastes and we should respect that.

>>16804826
The whole point of something wild happening to the characters and the setting is to get you to react after having enjoyed your time with the characters up to that point. You're not going to care if you skip the entirety of the worldbuilding and character interactions up to that point.

>>16805033
I feel like I'd be disappointed since you're acting like it's full on congratulations shinji and it's probably fucking nothing.

>>16806652
The MC sacrifices herself to save Serval, but then in the final episode, every single character they've helped along the way and the series' logo (Im not joking) appears to save her, and because you've actually spent the entire series watching the MC and Serval helping the other characters, they appearing on the final episode feels earned.

>>16806718
>the series' logo
That was next level, we just can't appreciate it yet.

>>16806718
AWAKENED KASHIKOI

>>16806718
I lol'd, but yeah.

I might have been int it if it were a 8~10 minute series. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30791116

The horse has more than bolted the stable at this point, but I feel like discussion of an anime in /jp/ is mostly appropriate when discussing the potential effects and impacts of that anime on otaku culture as a whole and not so much an in-depth discussion of the series for its own sake.

>>16808631
I think you should avoid discussing anything on /jp/ unless there's really no other appropriate place to do so. Not because there aren't topics that can be fine in multiple places, but because /jp/ is literally a board for tangential topics that don't belong on /a/ or other such boards. The only time anime discussion should happen, other than side discussions related to some other non anime topic, should be in context of anime or groups of anime as a whole rather than any particular series.

it ended almost a week ago guys
it's over

>>16803625

>>16804080

>>16808243
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30927394
Here you go

>>16810293
>several_men.png

Just finished watching this series. I got hooked with the battle in episode 1. Very relaxing and fun with a couple of clever twists, I enjoyed it quite a bit. Not the most mindblowing thing, but very neat. I wonder what threads were like when it was new, they did well giving you small insights into the world and the last couple episodes were a blast.

I wish I had a true friend like Serval and Kaban.

>>16811711
There was no twist, they played it straight. Most people got the hair = kaban spot on by ep8 when they revealed giant penguin origin.
The staff played it straight all the way through. I guess most people are just sick and tired with most of the current contents using plot twist as crutch when a show that played it perfectly straight came out as fresh and origin.

>>16810293

Kemono friends is fucking retarded.

>>16802684
Please do not bully the Kaban she is just looking for friends.

>>16812551
You're not a good friend.

I've watched the first episode, and I'm willing to give this a shot.

But does the 3DCG improve at all as the season progresses? The first episode was pretty painful at parts.

>>16812648
If you mean the first chase scene in particular there's nothing else on that level, but I wouldn't say that things "improve" on the technical front. If anything the sense of direction is better so you stop caring or in fact start enjoying some of the worse animation (such as the chase in episode 9, which is incredible)

I think the animation is legitimately good maybe twice in the entire series, featuring the same two characters at that.

>>16812648
Episode 1 is probably the low point, >>16812656 more or less summed it up

It was made by like 10 people on a less-than-shoestring budget so they did what they could.

>>16812551

you should give it a chance. :(

>>16812656
>>16812674
Alright, I think I'll be able to bear it. Thanks for the replies.

>>16812753
I actually watched all 12 episodes just because I saw this thread.

Surprisingly, it's not that bad. It's cute, but not tooth-rotting moeshit. It's easygoing, but not mind-numbing. And its plot progression isn't complete shit.

Why nips always have to obsess over the weirdest and most obscure shit they can find, why are they such hipsters?

>>16813240
Kemono Friends is about as far from "weird and obscure" in Japan as you can get, by the time it was halfway through it was blowing away the charts. The #かばんちゃん hashtag trended WORLDWIDE after Episode 11. Weird and obscure shit you never hear about because it's, you know, weird and obscure.

>>16813073
And if even someone who hated the premise like you is willing to give it the time of day, imagine how it went over with others.

And despite everything, I really am hoping it doesn't try to be Touhou. And that is because Touhou subsists on nothing but porn and fetishes. Only a small fraction of the fanbase actually plays the games.

>>16813403
Not even half of the doujins are H unlike the other franchises.
>only a small fraction of the fanbase actually plays the games
Actually, according to pool it's theoretically around 50% on normal difficulty.

>>16804917
>Honestly though, I think it's going to be harder to get into the show now, because so much of the fun was being part of the threads as it aired.
I almost never read threads about anime since >90% of the "community" is retard casual normalfags who don't even like anime and routinely lie about having watched something (this is true for every single board/site). Fastest way to burn out on anime is engaging with the "community."

>>16813486
This.

>>16813403
We're already reaching that sad hole, with all that Shoebill and PPP lew art and people who don't really care about the serie outside of those characters and cheap memes.

>>16813518

But Shoebill-chan gets a pretty great treatment. Most of her art is "STAAAAAAAAARE"-themed, the number of lewd content is way lower than the one of, say, Serval or Emperor penguin

>>16813403
Kemono Friends fit right in then.
The game is dead and no one actually even play the game. You could say that everyone is a secondary if we consider the players playing the kuso mobage as primaries.

>>16813530
KF is a media mix project; all three of the projects were given creative independence.

>>16813530
I thought the game was literally dead, as in they brought the servers down. You couldn't play it even if you wanted to, no?

>>16813550
It is.