/jp/ - Otaku Culture

is there any hope for refreshing my witch?
never inside out, gently cleaned with room temp water, but its noticably looser than just a few weeks ago when I got it.
I'm about 6.5in around so some stretching is normal, I've just never had a hole gape this badly.

If I request a paypal invoice from queencat, I shouldn't need a paypal account to pay correct?

tl;dr I need to work out more and outfits for sexdolls need to be simpler for future enjoyment.
>this doll is 75~ lb
>order outfit from amazon
>knew it would not fit and custom orders take 2+ months
>order nearest fitting size
>go to dress the doll
>dressing in bed was a nightmare
>easiest way was to keep the doll on one hand like a waiter delivering a tray to a table and use other to slip outfit on
>had to change arms
>got the outfit on
>waist is all wrong but then again 19 inch waist on the doll with 31 inch hips
>hem up the sleeves a bit
>hem the skirt's waist a bit, came with a zipper already installed and worked out perfectly
>gorilla glue gel in velcro for the leather pieces because cant pierce the leather with a needle and thimble and snip the excess
>go to redress the doll
>back to lifting it on one arm
>slid on like silk because fuck yeah proper doll maintenance and this slick material on the inside of the outfit
>forgot to take off the wig and dealt with static for a bit
>take a few pics
>spread its legs and wrap the feet around my back to lose my way
>notice senketsu is staring at me
>soft cock
>realize im sweating from the dressup part
>breathing hard
Sorry for posting so early in the thread.

Should you clean onaholes instantly after usage, or can you wait til the next morning?

>>16686863
You should clean it immediately unless you want to risk having bacteria popping up in your hole.

Anybody compared Insomnia to Onatsuyu yet?

I need a SELF CLEANING onahole.

just like a real woman

it really is the biggest issue with these things and the reason I stick to the hand. the last thing you want to be doing when relaxing is cleaning up. seriously wtf is this contradictory situation

>>16686986
Just put it aside for 15 mins or so while you bask in the afterglow, no big deal.

>>16686986
It only takes a minute to clean your hole.

>>16687133
yes but these little things are important
reason I have a robot vacuum cleaner and a dishwasher.

it's the age of convenience and right now nothing can compete with the HAND

i need a robot maid to jerk me off

>>16686986
>a SELF CLEANING onahole.

there are so many Onahole variations.. is there nothing that is exactly that? a self-cleaning function should be something that can be developed. there are many machines that have been invented with a self-cleaning mechanism built-in.. hmm...

So after a few months of using I feel like my rina big got loose is that even possible ? Or maybe I just got used to it after this time, the experience just isn't the same anymore and it can take me 20-30 minutes to get off, so sometimes I just prefer to have a quick wank with my hand rather than long experience with the hole. Maybe it's time to move to something more intense ?

>>16687425
I've got the same after about 2 months of use. It has 2 tears running down the whole hole so it doesn't even feel ribbed anymore. It's the downside to a 6.25 inch girth.

I tried insomnia lube with my dolphin regular.

It's thinner and more watery than onatsuyu ; it started to thicken after 25mn of use, after 35mn, the lubrication became bad enough that I couldn't penetrate my dolphin's cervices.
Nothing a little bit of spit couldn't fix though: the lube reactivated and did its job just fine until I nutted 25mn later.

>>16686934
They're remarkably similar. Both are thin and great for low stim holes, the main difference is that while Onatsuyu dries fairly slowly Insomnia does. Fucking. Not. Dry. Like, ever when you're using a hole. It's great. Onatsuyu is tackier which I do like though; I tend to mix a bit of the two.

It sounds like O2 is actually what I've been looking for but I'm sitting on two bottles of Insomnia so I won't be trying it for a while.

>>16686677
Correct, a credit/debit card will do.

OtonaJP is having a sale on Onatsuyu right now if anyone's interested in stocking up.
Just purchased Hanjuku, I've been eyeing it for months, but didn't want to splurge on it. It had good reviews, so I'm hoping it's great.

>>16689620
Let us know how it is. I've been eyeing up that one for awhile too but ended up buying a Puni virgin 1000 over it my last purchase. Still pretty interested in it though.

>tfw youve only had your lolinco for a couple of weeks and the vulva is starting to tear
and the tunnel ends behind her right breast instead of running straight down the middle
is this the power of magic eyes?
i know its mostly aesthetics but it still feels kinda shitty after spending $35

>>16690004
just think of the good times you've had together, anon.
if you used it 70 times in the past few weeks thats .50 p/cum which isn't so bad.

What are some recommended scent products?Most recommended ones in the pastebin are discontinued already. Slight preference for something more vanilla, like smells of rooms or clothes, though
https://www.otonajp.com/the-smell-of-the-third-and-eldest-working-sisters-pussy
people seem to be raving about this, both here and on amazon.jp, so I dunno.

>Insomnia is mentioned in this general
>queencat starts carrying it
>now sold out on queencat
Not very surprising.

Should I order Insomnia from daimaoh or something?
Ah, it also seems from my limited daimaoh browsing they don't have much in the way of scents.

How good agar powder would be to make a sex toy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp2Pm1bTTwc

>>16689620
>>16689715
Hanjuku is great, my favourite hole, the weight really adds to the stimulation.

>>16690707
I emailed queencat yesterday about when insomnia is going to be restocked and they said most likely early to mid April

>onahole.eu reviews a high end MagicEyes hip
>It's got an obvious defect

ayy lmao

https://blog.onahole.eu/reviews/onaholes/kaitai-shinsho-2

>>16691030
I think it will be on par with Potato Starch X

tfw the post office lost my onahole, it was to be delivered today March 10th, but it's been at the same location for the past 4 hours

Anyone have experience with deep throat rotor?

>>16692402
The post office is terrible at staying updated from my experience.

>>16692513
Im just hoping I dont have to go over there and open it in front of them or anything even though i ordered it from QueenCat

the Succubus box doesnt look too lewd so I shouldnt tho

>>16687379
for some reason this made me think of mr potato head where you could open a flap on the onahole. Then i started thinking about detachable parts for an onahole

Does anyone have pic related?
Looking to get a new hole, I currently have the lolinco and the roa which I love.
I am rather intrigued by the structures of romanesco and am wondering if anyone has any experience or tips on which material I should get.

So I'm running a kind of stability test on my Magic Eyes Quattro Natural Girl after discontinuing use nearly a month ago.
I've kept it inside of a Venus Real Box underneath my bed for almost 3 weeks (storage date was 2/18/17). The hole was used, then cleaned with dove soap, wiped dry with a microfiber towel, both inside and out and brushed with corn starch before being put into storage.

So far there are no signs of mold growth. I'll keep an update about every month until I see mold growth. As I discontinue more onaholes I might add them to this study or change it to add more details to it.

Is there anywhere to sell/give away used onaholes? There is the onahole.eu trading forum but it is dead as hell, there are no listings for used onaholes on ebay cause it's probably against their TOS, and I am not selling used sex toys to some lunatic on craigslist. I bought 6 on a whim 3 years ago and fapped with them exclusively for about 2 months, then just quit cold turkey cause it was kind of a pain to deal with lube, and hand-only fapping started getting better as my phimosis did. So they have just been sitting around and it feels a shame to throw them away, but if there is nobody who wants them then oh well.

>Meiki plush is $200
Fuck I could literally make my own with bigger tits for less than that

>>16686174
I recently bought the Lolinco, and I like it, but is there anything that is tighter? Is the VA:A a better fit?

I finally got around to getting a dimmer switch for the aquarium heater, and it works pretty well.

It still gets pretty hot even on the lowest setting but not so hot that it'd burn my hand, like it would without it. I've tested it out a couple times with the dolphin already, and it feels pretty good.

I have noticed, now that it's somewhat cool enough to touch when heating, that the last inch and a half or so doesn't heat up since the beige part is the real heating element (thought it was the black part around the edge).

Still, it heats up very quickly and feels pretty durable, so I'll keep using it. The dimmer switch also functions nicely as an on/off switch.

Anybody tried this? I've always wanted a semi large hip like onaho with thigh is this good?

I have a order from queen cat with a dolphin and venus real it was supposed to be here thursday but it has not showed yet and the estimated delivery date is still thursday also it has not been scanned since it left its shipping center over 70 hours ago....anyone else having similar issues?

>>16695250
nui doll on queencat is $50 but you need to buy your own stuffing

>>16695358
>still doesn't heat to the tip
And I'd have thought theetal or whatever in there would've helped. Oh well, thanks for the update.

sup guys im new to 4chan sorry if i am doing this wrong.

im a horny bastard and i fap to porn at least 3 times a day but lately it just doesnt feel as good i dunno how to explain but it doesnt help me imagine sliding inside that pussy that im watching. i want that nice warm wet velvety feeling enveloping my cock in its entirety. i cum and it feels so disappointing. i was thinking of getting my first fuck toy and i read the last two onahole threads very carefully and i think i want to get the venus dunno which one yet but their products look very enticing to me I mean just by looking at the high res queen cat photos showing the insides gave me a chubby.

anyway I think im a germaphobe dunno if that describes my phobia but the other day i was researching plastic water bottles to take with me to the gym and i thought i would be safe with bpa-free bottles but then i read how this just means they use a different type of plastic is just as harmful. so that got me thinking. most product these days are made in china because of how cheap it is to get a chinese factory to mass produce stuff for cheap. these factories are churning out these soft elastomers used in these fuck toys. if plastic bottles with harmful chemicals are being sold in america how can i be safe rubbing my cock against a fucktoy clearly made with unsafe plastics from china??

just do it? or am i too much of a pussy to use these things

>>16694454

Why bother doing that?

I bought my half mature succubus in May 2014, I really didn't like it so I used it less than a dozen times and left it in an old external hard drive box (the toy and box were clean) inside a closet. Instead of throwing it away in case I needed a back up onahole.

When I received my dolphin approximately 2 weeks ago, I remembered about the succubus' existence. I cut it into little pieces and put it in the trash, I saw no sign of mold.

>>16695962
>Instead of throwing it away in case I kept it in case I needed a back up onahole.

Sorry for the brain fart.

What are the best tits toys?

>parcel has been sitting in LA for the past four days
RIP?

>>16695909
fap less if you want fapping to be more satisfying

>>16695909
READ
THE
FUCKING
GUIDE

it has all of the answers you need for hygiene

And yeah, I was in the same boat as you man, three or four times a day, while some people can get off with a quite loose hole, such as a Seventeen Bouredeux, I found, since I had spanked it so much, I had sort of desensitised my dick a fair bit.

I'd recommend, from experience, that you'd be better going for a tighter hole, having used the Seventeen Bouredeux.

I have a Open My Pussy Lolinco, I'm not into kids, but unfortunately you kinda have to buy the ones that look like kids to get a tight one.

In all honesty, I've been more confident since I've used an onahole. You cum a whole lot more than using my hand, so after using one I stopped masturbating at school.

Make sure you get some Onatsuyu with your hole though. It feels so good compared to the cheap stuff. I bought two bottles of the stuff, and I've only used a sixth of the bottle in around three months. Sometimes I fap with it on weekends around five times.

Let me know if you need any advice, I know a little bit about onaholes from one newbie to another.

fapped with my succubus dots

was meh, felt good enough

>>16695909
>I think im a germaphobe
Don't get a hole from China. Most of the good ones are from Japan anyway, and the major brands (which will be recommended here) should be safe.
Also, in regards to your "phobia", you might want to consider the cleaning aspect. Some of the tighter holes are a PITA to clean (and I myself would always worry about some residue being left in there), so you should go either with Fleshlights (open-ended, so easy to flush), Tenga Flip (flips open for cleaning) or Tomax holes (can be reversed for cleaning).

>>16695277
I haven't tried Lolinco but my VA:A is extremely tight. I don't know if it's as tight as Lolinco though, from what i've heard of it.

>>16686768
Mine is almost 90lbs.
Dressing her up sucks, but its also the funnest part at the same time. I bought her a bunch of skimpy outfits from china for real cheap off of ebay. Im talking dirt cheap/ You should check it out.

I just have her sitting around in her underwear when shes home for easy access.

>pic related

>just bought a warmer
>can feel the difference right away
God damn

>>16696761
dude if anything I would fap even more if I didnt feel so depressed each time I erupt. if I can find a nice fuck toy my dick would be in that thing for hours. if my cock looked nice and was bigger id have my dream job of being a pornstar

>>16696872
>>16697008

i dunno if I can get turned on by fucking a tiny torso though. the venus huge pussy lips gave me a chubby just looking at it lel

>

i know dudes i read most of the guide. i know about using soap and powdering and drying shit. but there are two problems maybe only a pussy like me is scurred about.

i was reading this sextoy website i forget the name but it basically said if the toy isnt made of silicone then it is porous and you cant really clean that shit as things get into the porous material. so even if you do a good job cleaning and it doesnt get moldy and shit there can still be other shit hiding out of sight in those pores.

secondly. i wanted to buy a bpa-free water bottle so i was shopping around amazon and reading reviews and shit. turns out bpa-free water bottles just means it contains alternate shit like bpf and bps and all the bisphenol shit just like it. these products are being sold to kids and shit in fucking america even though it leaches shit into our drinking water. if these hazardous and hard plastic is being use in our society then isnt it obvious the same shit is happening with fucktoys? even worst cause they use softer porous plastics made with unknown shit??

>>16686768
>>16697334

where the loli dolls at

Thinking about buying this. Should I get the refill pack or the bottle of golden lotion?
Any of you have experience with scents? Infernalmonkey seemed to give this scent a positive review.

>>16699188
No personal experience with scents, but he seems to give a much more glowing review of this
http://infernalmonkey.com/2017/01/13/scent-of-my-classmates-sweaty-blouse/

>>16698716
nice try fbi-kun

Hi guys, bought my first hole a little while ago after consulting the guides and spreadsheets. Ended up getting an R20, but after it arrived the other day I found myself a little underwhelmed with the tunnel length. From what I can tell, beyond that length lies the territory of hips and dolls.

I'm really new to this, so I'd like to know if I overlooked something or I should start thinking about places to store my future degeneracy.

>>16699695
I wouldn't say hips and dolls are the next thing regarding tunnel length. Hips offer a hands free experience and have more weight to them. I won't talk about dolls because I don't own one, but I'd presume it's along the same lines.

Dolphin Hard, Virgin Age Hard, or Seducing Witch?

Which should be my first hole?

>>16699769
Virgin

>>16699744
Can you recommend a hole with ~18cm tunnel length?

I'll keep searching otherwise.

>>16699785
Softer holes will accommodate a little for length and stretch and I would recommend venus real in soft. For stimulating holes the lolinco Virgo or Rina big maybe.
I don't know too much about getting an onahole with larger tunnel length.
I'm 15cm and I get off pretty easily with smaller tunnel lengths ~11cm.
I just don't think it's a good idea to make such a large investment into a hip before you've tried out more than one hole and know exactly what kind of stimulation you desire.

>>16698711
I... never thought of any of that. I am frightened now. Glancing at my drawer full of my onaholes gives me a feeling of dread instead of lust.

>>16699188
The refill pack is a plastic bag with a type of nozzle on it, the bottle is just a regular pump bottle. You could probably just buy a pump bottle anywhere and fill it yourself.

>>16698711
>>16699941
Are we really going to go down this shithole again? No one has gotten anything but an orgasm from using an onahole. The good ones are made in Japan and certified to be safe for use as food packaging. Case in point ToysHeart http://www.toysheart.com/product-info/material/

whats with teh dolphin

>>16699818
I just wanted something I could go all in on without smashing the tip against the end and still be hanging out a bit. I was hoping someone knew of a hole that wasn't listed in the spreadsheet or guides, but I guess it's relatively up to date.

>>16699973
yee but arent those bpa-free water bottles certified safe as well. those freaking dangerous plastics are still used in everyday products all over murica and the world. water bottles!! compare that to onaholes. i cant wrap my head around how an onahole with soft, porous plastics can be safer than a water bottle that is sold to everyone.

>>16700130
As long as you don't drink your semen out of the onahole when you're done, it should be safer than a water bottle.

>>16700040
lurk moar, new friend

>>16700197
And even if you did, it would only maybe possibly (i.e. still not) be a problem if you drank tens or hundreds of litres of semen out of it, over the course of years.

>>16700130
Cite your source or chill the fuck out. Buy a cheap one and cut it open, it's solid all the way through. Hell, put some dark powder and rail the shit out of it, THEN cut it open. You won't find shit.

>>16687375
I always thought this was a brilliant business idea. Would do it if I wasn't scared and incompetent

>>16700282
>hundreds of litres of semen
lewd

>>16700197
interesting. so the semen I inject into the toy could be tainted in the same way a reusable water bottle can leach shit into the drinking water.

but arent there other ways that those soft porous plastic can be harmful. I mean im rubbing my skin against unknown plastic

>>16700284
heres one of the sites i read
http://dangerouslilly.com/2014/03/porous-sex-toy-does-it-matter/
http://dangerouslilly.com/toxictoys/
http://dangerouslilly.com/2010/10/yes-jelly-sex-toys-can-be-dangerous/

again just to summarize:

REUSABLE WATER BOTTLES
- clinically proven that even BPA-free shit still uses other types of harmful plastics that ALL LEACH SHIT into water we drink
- yet it is still sold to any one. no age restriction like 18+ and shit. this shit being sold to kids
- these are SOLID non porous plastics and yet it aint safe

ONAHOLES
- uses soft plastic with PORES which allow molds and bacteria to harvest inside unseen
- made with unknown material produced in japan or china
- china is known to have toxic shit even in kids toys

My question is this. AMERICA sell everyday products that leach harmful chemicals so why the heck would onaholes use safer plastics?? Im rubbing that shit against my cock potentially

>>16700368
Why are you drinking from your onahole?

If I buy an onahole from amazon with 1 day shipping will it be guaranteed 1 day if it's "fulfilled by amazon"? I have a very small window in which I'm the one opening our mail..

>>16700416
Yes. Although sometimes they fuck you by saying your order is "Processing" and take an extra day before "Shipping".

You can look into if there's an Amazon locker in your area that you could have it delivered to then just pick it up yourself.

>>16700368
Only America does the government have to prove products are unsafe to the manufacturer.
In the rest of the developed world, the manufacturer has to prove the product is safe to the government.

>>16700368
Anon I don't think this is for you if your that paranoid about sticking your dick in a piece of rubber. Either put aside your water bottles and get the onahole or go innawoods already.

/g/ has me paranoid of all tech and even you are more paranoid than me, tinfoil hats off to you /x/ man of onaholes.

>>16700408
what is leaching from the onahole is rubbing against my cock dude! why does that sound scary only to me. maybe im a fucking pussy too scared to fuck a fake pussy

>>16700428
so you're saying the onahole I buy from japan has been proven safe to their government? PLs be true. I cant stop thinking of the venus.

>>16700459
Yeah Im fucking paranoid. tinfoil hats off to you too anon

>>16700416
Do it before 2PM

>>16700560
It can't be worse than the stuff that's growing in a real pussy

>>16700351
You're rubbing your SKIN against unknown plastic. One of its functions is keeping weird shit out of you. It's not perfect but it's reasonably good at its job and onaholes aren't entirely without protections anyway as has been stated. It's a different animal entirely from swallowing something. Now would you please stop fretting like a soccer mom and deal with a normal level of risk or just go back to using your hand already?

>>16700560
If there were an issue with onaholes, you'd have millions of Japanese dicks fall off already, long time ago...
And if you're still paranoid, use a rubber.
Don't believe any panic post on the Internet (even if they have a whole site dedicated to it), and keep in mind that vagina insides are more delicate than dick outsides, and that you're not ingesting anything that comes into contact with your onahole.
But, like someone else already said, if you're so paranoid that you can't relax when using an onahole, then don't waste you money on one. (But when you think about all the nasty stuff you could catch from a real vagina, I guess it'll be only your hand then, for the rest of your life...)

Is it OK for onaholes to be stored at below freezing temperatures? I know temperatures that are too hot can be bad for them.

Mind if I ask a favor? Can someone please take pictures of all six sides of an onahole box for me, if it's not too much trouble? The higher res, the better. I want to make a 1/12 scale onahole with a box, preferably the Lolinco Virgo, but I won't be picky. I'd love a Hitachi box if anyone's got one of those too.

Anybody else use more then one ona in a session? I like to roll two up in a big towel, one on top of the other. Like a makeshift double hole. Makes for a pretty intense experience. You know you're on a good one if you can fap with no porn. Purely concentrating on the feel of the toy.

Also, god damn the ZXY is cash as fuck. Its almost the only toy ive used since i got it. Is it the pinnacle of hand held fuck toys or is it out shined by another? I mean i know its a matter of opinion but in its defense ive only heard good reviews. Im thinking about getting the maria or the new tomax toy. The dolphine? Three cervixes? No wonder dolphins have sex for pleasure sometimes. I love that venus real, but I'll be damned if i didn't have to take it off the top shelf for Zhang Xio Yu. Maybe I'll just go and get my first hip if i can't find another hole i want.

>>16702647
My first onahole was a Meiki too. I had the Maria and it definitely felt amazing as I prefer subtle, realistic textures. It felt so damn real especially when warmed up. In terms of feel it gets a 11/10 for me!

I had to throw it out only after a few months though and won't be going back to Meiki products. The first day I had it my whole room reeked of synthetic plastics. Someone here recommended rinsing it with dish detergent which helped a lot. However I still had to shower immediately after each use as the weird plastic smell would still cling to my dick and emancipate from my pants. I could be walking around hours later and rqndomly catch the scent of it. One humid day I didn't shower until the following day. The underwear I wore still reeks to this day and spread to the clothes I used in the same laundry...

Also these toys get so greasy and leak oil from day one which makes it a lint magnet. Plus since the material is so soft bits of the labia comes off after every use and will stick to your dick and pubes which is annoying. These toys aren't durable at all and this is the single layer Meiki.


I haven't found an alternative yet. I have a Fleshlight I bought shortly later. My biggest surprise was how soft it was despite being very flimsy compared to an onahole but it's no where near as soft and lifelike as a Meiki and it's texture is too intense. So feeling for me is just 3/10 which is a huge dropoff from the Meiki. It is much more durable though and I can see it lasting years. Still has a faint synthetic smell but a lot more subtle. So basically the Fleshlight was the complete opposite of Meiki in every aspect.

I've been told the Venus solves all the problems I mentioned while still feeling almost as soft and realistic. That would be THE onahole for me if true. However those 2 onahole already cost me like $200 (including shipping to Canada) and the Venus is a rather expensive toy for me to experiment a third time...

Would appreciate it if someone does a straight up Venus Real vs Meiki Maria/ZXY comparison.

>>16701851
I would imagine that any moisture in it would crystalize, and quickly lead to tears.

>>16701647
How prevalent are onaholes in Japan? Is it, say, more popular then the use of sex toys in America since there is a sort of stigma for guys here. Always been curious about this.

>>16702832
As a fellow Canadians I feel your pain. Shipping adds like 30-40% to the cost of the toy and then there is the USD to CAD conversion on top of that. I too am interested in a Meiki versus Venus Real comparison and any other onaholes that are similar to these two.

>>16702832
The venus is about as durable as any fleshlight. It will not be a waste of money. I guarantee it. If you don't mind the subtle simulations of a FL then you're good to go with the venus. Its worth it. I have 4 tomax toys. I got the first one, my venus, like two years ago and its passing the test of time.

The zxy does have a bit of an odor but nothing that can't be washed off with soap and water. You must have a really sensitive sniffer to notice it like you did especially on the FL. I cant smell a thing on those unless I'm trying to. The lips on zxy did flake a bit when i first got her but that stopped after a few uses/washing. Like i said, its fucking cash. There's this little lump just past the opening that massages the absolute fuck out of your dick. Its even more noticeable when you turn the toy ass up.

What happened to your maria to make you throw it away? Or did you just not like it?

Anyone got a recommendation for someone that has a 4" micropeen?

>>16700416
If you buy from Amazon, it should say "guaranteed by _____" when choosing shipping options.
If they don't say that, that means it could be a day late

>>16690707
So how exactly do you use those scents?
Do you spray them on the pussy and sniff it or spray it on analog panties and huff em?

>>16703227
Whoah, you own the same/similar onaholes as me AND the one I want to get! I think I will be asking you a lot of questions, my apologies in advance!


01. Firmness

Which firmness level is your Venus? When you said the Venus was as durable as the Fleshlight that got me VERY excited. However that could mean the Venus is firmer than I'd like. The Fleshlight didn't appeal to me for two reasons: their textures are too pronounced and the firmer material they use just exacerbates it. I want something a LOT softer than my Fleshlight. That's why I rarely use my Fleshlight even though cleaning it is SO easy with the open ended design.

The holy grail to me would be a Venus that was as durable as the Fleshlight but as soft as the Meiki. Please tell me you meant this all along! I'm also wondering which of their firmless levels is mostly similar to the Meiki: the soft or very soft.


02. Smell

The first few weeks I could barely smell anything from the FL which was a huge relief to me, but over time the plastic smell became a bit more pronounced although I could deal with not showering afterward. The Meiki on the other hand smelled very bad right from the get go. The detergent tricked fixed that, but I had to shower immediately after using it which is VERY annoying since the smell clings to me, the smell is very obvious and worsens during humid summer days.

Can you comment on the stinkiness of the Venus?


03. Durability

I'm pretty sure your ZXY uses the same material as my Maria. But for me bits of the labia always came off and clung to me and this never improved over time. The entrance just felt so fragile but the rest felt nice and solid.


04. Texture

I loved how Maria felt. It certainly felt like a real vagina or very close to it and that's EXACTLY how I want my onahole to feel. I miss it to this day. Since you love your ZXY I'm pretty sure you'd like the Maria since these two are the most popular Meiki's out there and are pretty similar.

Again I didn't like the FL since it's too intense and firm and it's not the kind of texture that appeals to me. I heard the Venus Real is more like the Meiki.


05. Conclusion

I threw out the Meiki because it made my dick and clothes reek. It's such a hassle if you want to use a toy more than once a day knowing that you will stink if you don't shower right away. I could put up with the bits of plastic falling out and the oiliness of the toy but not that smell!

I'm going to be VERY surprised IF the Venus is as soft as a Meiki but as durable and odourless as the FL. That would mean it has no downsides which I can't imagine!

By the way do you prefer your ZXY over your Venus?

>>16702647
I usually like to pair up my Puni Virgin 1000 and Puni Virgin Mini in a session, the 1000 being the looser toy I use for the majority of the time and the dick bully Mini to finish off. The 1000 is a mini hip, so I might have to try that idea of yours out.

>>16700428
i emailed queencat and they said this

>there is no way it's true. And the manufacturer is in Japan. If you are concerned, we recommend not to purchase. Unfortunately that's all we can say. After all, these are just toys / novelties. Not medical devices or food, so Health Department does not care, never check.

wtf!!!

Oh cool didn't know so many anons had Fleshlights!

Here are the 3 toys I'm deciding between:
Venus Real in Soft
Fleshlight Girls Alexis Texas Outlaw
Fleshlight Girls Alexis Texas Tornado

Which of those three feels the best? My cock is average length/girth. Not looking for a "dick bully" but want something reasonably tight.

>>16703844
Oh look it's you again. It's even the same line from last time, did the ban just expire?

>>16699973
>Are we really going to go down this shithole again? No one has gotten anything but an orgasm from using an onahole. The good ones are made in Japan and certified to be safe for use as food packaging. Case in point ToysHeart http://www.toysheart.com/product-info/material/

>>16703978
>http://www.toysheart.com/product-info/material/

That's very cool to read!

Does that only apply to ToysHeart though? I couldn't find materials info for the other brands. I also wonder which ToysHeart products (or other onahole brands) has the "Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare ~ Food & Sanitary Law No. 370" label?

Another question is whether there are any onaholes by Toysheart that are as realistic as the Tomax and Meiki onaholes?

>>16704076
Virgin Age: Admission has some Japanese text with the number 370 in it, which I assume is that label. It has a kind of plasticy smell, but it doesn't smell bad. I've licked it and it doesn't taste like anything. It feels a bit sticky to touch, but doesn't get any residue on things it touches. I've been using it every day for about two weeks, and my dick is fine.
I haven't used Tomax or Meiki holes so I don't know how it compares to those, but I certainly enjoy VAA.

>>16704076
No, ToysHeart tends to be a harder material and not too realistic, especially compared to my Venus Real. Learn Nip and scour the other manufactures sites, because afaik ToysHeart are the only one that provide that info in English, but I'm willing to bet the others are not untested, at least as far as Tomax. MagicEyes is made in China for the most part (and it shows) but I'm even willing to bet they've got some cert in the bag.

Been using few of the common magic eyes for a year or so now.

Planning to pick up some new onaholes

Been eyeing the ZXY
Is it really as good as it sounds? Much better than your typical magic eyes?

anyone got any recommendations for 17cm ona on nls.

already gone through most of the ones marked that size on anons ona spreadsheet and the site itself is no help.

>>16703860
The fleshlights are meh at best. Just my opinion. They're material isnt intense enough to actually notice any of the designs in the toy. Ive got like 3 different kinds and i have to do some real lube modifications in order to feel those details. The outside aesthetics are just gimmicks. Sasha Grey, Leis Texas, Whorey McWhoreson. Everybodys pussy feels the same. Go with the venus. If you want tight go with hard. The softer the material the looser the hole.

>>16703570
01. Hard. Meikis are most similar to soft. But to be honest its a softness all its own. Its almost in the middle of the two.

02. I dont mind the odor of tomax toys. Not now and not in the beginning. Im sitting here sniffing my Muse Fillo and it just smells like the baby powder i put on it after washing it. Anyway I'm weird in the way the smells start to turn me on because my brain associates it with getting off. I open my toy box and the smell drifts up into my nose and my subconscious is just like Game On.

3. Not a question

4. Also not a question. But yea, the fleshlights are kind of underwhelming. Convenience due to easy clean up. Thats about the height of their usefulness. Oh wait, one time i took the sleeve out of the case put it on my junk. I kind of like did that thing you do with long sleeve shirts when you pull them up to your elbow. So i had a toy on my dick while i fucked my other one.

5. I dont know why i like the zxy. Its likenthe slipped crack in the formula and i absorb it through my dick.

>>16704419
Appreciate the replies, anon.

In terms of realism do you think the Venus matches the Meiki?

It looks like I still need to figure out if the Venus in Soft would be as durable as a Fleshlight/Venus in hard.

>>16704268
For the Tomax brand I can only find their American website which is odd. If I could find their Japanese version I would just run it through Google translate. There's like no official info about Tomax anywhere!

>>16704208
Cool thanks.

>>16704550
Tomax is made by daimaoh if I remember right

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdaimaoh.co.jp%2Fitem1663.html

Under the Material section
>It is soft and neat and durable. Of course, it is composed of material of medical level safe to the human body.

And even on Queencat it says:
>Tomax is really good at making superior 'skin', and every material they use is either medical or food grade.

Couldn't find anything else on the site myself

I love auto translate sometimes

I'm almost out of tsuyu so I figured I'd get a new hole along with a restock
only ever had 17 bord so I wanted something with some variety and narrowed it down to
>melty angel
>meme dolphin
>student council president (the anal one)
>school club manager (the bumpy one)
any feedback, reccomendations?

What's the most intense thing I can get? I don't really care about realism or theme. I just want to cum quick and hard

>>16705379
actually forget the dolphin, queencat doesn't have good lube and white ai-chan is sold out till april so I'll just hold off on it

>>16704640
Great find. So Tomax is made in Japan which means it's definitely higher quality. It would be really cool if it had a 370 label too.

Can someone with the Tomax packaging check if there is any info/labels on it?

Which toy is more realistic: Muses Arkhe or Venus Real? I just read this review http://thecasqueterofiles.com/rubber-pussy-project-175-muses-arkhe-tomax/
>If realism is your thing, this toy MUST be in your collection!

His top realistic toys list only shows the Venus Real but maybe he didn't update it yet.

how do you guys clean your onahole hips? i used dial antibacterial soap, then with a towel i try to dry it as best i can. i seem to have the most trouble with drying them. people say to air dry but it never seems to get completely dry. i've also taken a pencil and wrapped paper towel or a dish washing towel to dry it. seems to be the best way.

>>16705580
i just rinse with water and leave out to dry

Anyone know the first thing about this hole? never heard of it, but stumbled on it browsing otona. price is good, reviews are good, that forked end looks cool, and I'm always down to fuck a frog, but I don't know if I trust it completely

Bad dragon's options seem crazy pricy, are there any cheaper furfag options around out there or are they the only game in town?

>>16705590
review here
http://infernalmonkey.com/2016/04/22/mero-mero-frog/

>>16706092
thanks
well seems to be pretty good, but comments say there's durability, smell, and stick issues
although the latter two seem like part of the experience
at any rate if it's not toxic chinese bootleg tier, for that price and with that cool of an internal design I think I'll pick it up along my lube refill

>>16706118
personally I cant look at that thing and feel comfortable with it much less put it on my dick, but hey if you find it appealing then more power to you buddy.
also it says in the bottom left that its made in japan so its probably decent quality.

>>16706134
>personally I cant look at that thing and feel comfortable with it much less put it on my dick,
lol, can't say I blame you

>MULTI-TRACK WANKING

>>16706205
Yeah, I'm going to need some Eurobeat for this.

>>16705590
It's really good for that price. This one and the Gurun gurun fantasy are my current favorites.
I'm a simple man.

>>16706205
DEJA VU!

R20 Puni or Daisuki Hold First?

>>16705458
Insomnia lube is supposed to be good and that's on Queencat

>>16706205
I know. I've wanted dungeon girl for a while now. Imagine blindly guiding your dick through all that like some drunken sherpa.

>>16706789

>>16706799
What is that supposed to be?
Stab wounds in the butt?

Anyone know a good masturbator for someone with a small 4" (length and girth) dick?
Preferably less than $100 and in the US

>>16705546
>Which toy is more realistic: Muses Arkhe or Venus Real? I just read this review http://thecasqueterofiles.com/rubber-pussy-project-175-muses-arkhe-tomax/
Hey I was looking at his website too and the list of realistic toys! That's how I narrowed down my choices >>16703860

Are you going to consider the Fleshlight Tornado? I noticed they get a lot of flack here but if that onahole guru recommended it then it's gotta be legit. They are easier for me to buy too. I'm going to remove the Outlaw from my list and replace it with the Arkhe since I just read his review. My updated list:

Fleshlight Tornado
Tomax Arkhe soft
Tomax Venus soft

>>16706569
R-20 Puni, it's been my go to for about a month now and can't recommend it enough. I don't have to worry about anything tearing if I flip it inside out to clean either.

I'm starting to develop dry red areas on my penis, could this be caused by my 1.5 year old onahole that's falling apart or do you think it's something else?

>>16707011
I don't know between the ones you've listed
But for the most part it's widely accepted that the Meiki ZXY is the closest feel to a real pussy

>>16707295
If you've changed lube recently then it could be an allergic reaction.
If you haven't sanitized(not just cleaned your cum out) then it's probably that.

>tfw pretty sure my mom just found all my onaholes
I keep them all in a drawer under my desk. She respects my privacy though so I never really worried about her going through my stuff before. Though I just got out the shower and I found my mom put all my clean socks and underwear inside one of the drawers next to the one I keep my onaholes. So I'm pretty sure she must've stumbled across my onaholes too.
She hasn't said anything about it but I'm pretty sure she knows, guys. Help.

>>16707801
Fuck her

>>16707801
If she respects your privacy, even if she found out about them, she should leave you alone about it.
That kind of shit is literally the reason why she let's you have your privacy

>>16707801
Why the fuck do you store them in the place moms will look around daily?

>>16707801
>She hasn't said anything about it but I'm pretty sure she knows
Who cares? I'm pretty sure my mom found them too but she never said anything about the shit I buy with my own money so I don't stress about it.

>>16707801
Well now she knows you masturbate, I'm sure she'll be devastated. If she hasn't said anything yet then either she used her mom senses to detect your underwear and didn't actually see anything or doesn't care enough/decided not to say anything. In either case you're fine unless she's doing that woman thing where she's saving it for ammunition in a later argument. Relax and hide your holes better.

>>16707801
Well it could be worse

>>16708413
Oh god. Imagine if she cleaned them for him and set them out to dry for everyone to see

>>16707296
I read a lot about how Meiki is overpriced because the material doesn't last many uses and maybe from paying to use JAV names and photos on their packaging. I learned about Tomax because reviews often say it's a superior version of a Meiki but a lot cheaper!

>>16708453
I guess it depends on how much you use it and how well you care for it. But mine is going fine.
I've had it for a couple years and use it about once a week

>>16707296
I've heard recent re-releases dropped the ball though

>>16686174
For a first timer should I go for the venus real soft or lilith uterus? I heard these can help with treating phimosis (I'll appreciate any other tips on this) hence why I'm going for the soft version so when entering a hole does it pull the foreskin all the way back or is there leeway to have some foreskin while I am in so I can move at my own pace and not hurt myself?
Sorry for the virgin-esque questions. Also, can I use a prepaid card for amazon or queencat since I don't want my bank statement knowing I bought this or can I make a new paypal and send money to it but not have it connected to a bank?

>>16709020
Queencat doesn't show up as that on a statement, I think it's some other really generic store sounding name
While onaholes help with phimosis you should do stretches to make sure you can pull it all the way back first or you will hurt yourself. the feeling of an onahole sure is great motivation for doing the stretching every single day though

>>16709137
Yeah, Queen Cat just shows up as "ANNEGIE" on the bank statement.

>>16707296
>>16708575
>>16707011
>>16705546

Yes, I heard this too. Perhaps in the toydemon forum. In any case it makes it that much harder to justify the price tag.

I'd stick to the Venus Real since most anons here seem to agree it feels realistic and it's mentioned in the pastebin.

Not sure how the Arkhe compares. That review was the first time I heard anyone say it felt realistic.

>>16708569
Is your Meiki as smelly and oily as mentioned by the other anon?

Do you own the Venus Real by any chance? Just want to see how these two brands compare since they seem to be direct competitors in the realism category.

>>16709137
>>16709231
I see hopefully it doesn't look out of place. I might order shirts and stuff from boutiques that month so I can just say it's some designer brand. And I have been doing the stretches for about a month just can't get the head to come out. It's weird since when I am flaccid my dick is very small like the Greek statues small with a lot of foreskin yet I cant still push the head through without the pain stopping me.

>>16709348
If it's the frenulum that hurts to stretch, that's pretty much me as well. Get some lube and use a finger to spread it around under your foreskin, around the frenulum in particular, and it should make things go a fair bit smoother. You may still feel some discomfort like the frenulum is fairly stretched, but that might just be me, and the tension goes away as I fap anyway.

Just, you know, don't force the issue. If you still can't really get the head out with lube helping just try another time; don't break anything.

>>16709375
Yes it is the frenulum that prevents my head coming out. Yeah my fear is ripping something. It's only been a month trying to cure it so it might be a while to fix it. Hopefully if I do go the circumcision route maybe the doctor can salvage some foreskin since I do have a lot when flaccid. Thanks for the reply.

>>16709469
I'd rather have this semi-phimosis forever than get cut, personally. Loss in sensitivity would be a bitch now that I'm used to fapping with my foreskin pulled back. Going from full on phimosis to the lolinco with the head exposed was some downright mindblowing shit. Still is, honestly, that thing is a miracle of rubber pussy engineering.

>>16709494
I unfortunately have the thought I am going to lose my virginity from a one night stand first than from a loving partner and I am gonna be very insecure when she notices my dick skin can not be pulled back. I already enforced a rule that I will not accept oral sex. Anyways enough of my blog shit thanks for answer everyone.

how do you guys go about heating up your hip onaholes?
i usually just put it in a sink full of hot water while takin a pre fap shit
usually gets it to a nice temp that keeps for most of the sesh
any better ideas?

How many times have you used an onahole+daki to jam it in?

Who jam it in status here?

>>16709567
Better than being a 30-year old virgin like me.

>>16707295
1) Wash your hole out with antibacterial soap.
2) Stop fapping for a week or so.
Your dick skin could be too dry (some lubes can dry it out), add vitamin E to your lube as per the guide or use moisturiser on it.

How do you guys keep your sex drive in check? I got my first onahole a few days ago and I've already fapped with it like 13 times with some of those fap sessions being less than 15 seconds after the previous one.

>>16711031
it tapers off after a few weeks, personally I still love it but don't need to go at it every day even

>>16694306
I always wondered what it would be like to have sex with a fractal entity

>>16711602
well, there's an onahole for everyone I suppose

>>16711031
Started buying onaholes 2 months ago. I own 5 onaholes now with a 6th on the way and masturbate 2-4 times a day still. I feel energized after masturbating with an onahole, but drained when I use my hand. I still use my hand from time to time though maybe 2-3 times a week.

>>16696030
pls respond

>>16711602
Your dick would need to be fractal as well to comprehend it

>>16711824

>>16694306
>tfw too intelligent for normal sex

>>16711822
we do have a guide you know

well what was supposed to just be a lube refill turned into a little shopping spree
any last minute warnings/suggestions before I pull the trigger? I would have gotten two tsuyus but I wanted to give something else a shot for once and the price/size is basically identical

>>16709919
i'm a girl btw

>>16711031
Get something big, like a hip. The pain in the ass of cleaning it makes you weigh your horny level vs. the effort of cleanup.

Fewer, more enjoyable faps with fatter loads.

>>16709761
A small/medium cooler filled with warm-hot water, its way more convenient than using a sink for me as I just fill it up in advance and have a warm hole ready for the next 4 hours or so.

Also helps minimize the chance of awkwardness when my housemates are around.

Has anyone used motsutoys before? I was looking for other european stores other than omocha dreams and found this one, it seems to have prices at lower or at most the same as omocha and free shipping at a much lower cost, but wondering if they are reliable as I haven't heard anyone talk about them here before.

>>16711822
Sadly those tits in your pic are nearly impossible to get due to super slow production.

Busty-Aichans would be second place to whats in your pic, but are also kinda hard to get and are kinda expensive.

The new Magic Eyes G-cup tits are nice feelwise and cheap to boot, but are single material (not counting the back and nipples) and exude a good amount of oil and have that plastic smell that never goes away.

Currently I have the Magic Eyes tits, but only get them out for a few hours every few weeks due to the hassle of having to wash the oil seepage/smell out of the clothes for my plus doll.

pic=plush doll w/ Magic Eyes G-Cup tits

>>16712547
what was the name of his pic again?

>>16711822
I love tits but man if I had to take a shower after every single session that'd quickly become tedious as fuck.
Dunno about you guys but personally I hate making a mess with lube.

>>16712636
I do the same with a normal onahole too. I don't like to play with cum.

>>16698716
I'm not that familiar with doll stuff but this is the only one I could find: http://www.sexdollrealistic.com/128cm-irontech-lily-cute-lovely-girl-real-doll-human-flat-breast-sex-doll_p0080.html

>>16712559
I'm guessing Milqueen

>>16713140
huh, looks like it
are they really that much better than ai-chan? and do they ever pop back up on the market or is it better just to let go

>>16713185
not that anon but I think ai chan is the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16PIWQ4uitw

>>16713140
>>16713185
I'm pretty sure they aren't the Milqueens as the ones in the gif are new ones from 2015/2016 that are gel filled and larger than the AiChans.

I'm >>16712547 this guy and I just looked all over daimaoh, onahodouga and NLS and couldn't find them even though I could have sworn that the vids/gifs were from one of the three.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just stopped making them outright due to production difficulties as the wait list was a mile long and IIRC they only shipped out single digits worth of them per month while they were available.

>>16712488
It seems like an English front for mytenga
I ordered MoT and VAA from them with no problems, quick delivery and discrete packaging

>>16713223
wait, I'm confused
so the ones in the gif aren't milqueen and the legendary super hard to get ones? what are they called? or are milqueen the super hard to get ones and the ones in the gif are unrelated?

>>16713327
The Milqueens have been around for a long time and aren't that hard to get.

The ones mentioned in the gif earlier are a super low production set that are closer to the size of the Magic Eyes I cup tits but are gel filled instead of single layer like the Magic Eyes ones.

Closest thing I can find are these
https://www.otonajp.com/braless-sensei-breasts-titsjob-onahole-set
They look the same but those ones are smaller than the Aichans, which makes me think they settled on a smaller size due to production problems as the "love factor" brand tits linked are pretty new on the market as well.

Is there much big of a difference between otonajp and nls? I have the same products from both, they come out to around the same price, shipping included, and it's special order goods on nls and availability: 2-3 business days on otona so nothing there
does it matter or should I just flip a coin?

>>16713376
Me again

They could be the larger 2+kg tits that Rends was going to bring to market in 2015/2016 that never materialized.

>>16713376
>>16713399
so rends brand, but an unrealized prototype
and all rends are pretty good but super rare due to super slow production
thanks for clearing that up
guess I'll just get an ai-chan when the time comes

Couldn't find a definitive answer on the archive (unless I'm an idiot) so just thought I'd ask; has anyone imported a Cocolo into the UK from Japan or am I going to have to get ripped off by an EU vendor?

Don't really want to risk it, but if others have managed to import one from outside the EU without the box then I'll take the chance.

>>16713073
that looks like the Dollhouse 128 Molly variant btw. i think it might be cheaper straight from them.

>>16712547
>https://www.otonajp.com/braless-sensei-breasts-titsjob-onahole-set

What bra size should I buy to mount my ai-chans to the meiki plush?

>breast toys are super squishy but stain the hell out of fabric
I can easily sew the perfect breast shape but there has to be a better stuffing than just the normal things like cotton, fiberfill and foam

>>16709348

Just keep at it stretching daily, it's a lot of work but so worth it, I started stretching in late october and had it mostly sorted out by around January. Of course how long it takes you will depend completely on how severe it is, while reading up on the best way to cure it I found a guy who had an very severe case(extreme pinhole phimosis) who spent over a year but still managed to get it sorted out. Pretty much just do some research and find the best ways to stretch.

My main issue now is that fapping feels way too good and I come far too quickly, onaholes are great but I often can't be bothered using them as the clean up part takes so much longer when I come in less than a minute.

>>16712181
What is a daki? More importantly: are you single? Pics?

>>16705546
>Which toy is more realistic: Muses Arkhe or Venus Real?
Halp. Same price. I only care about realism.

>>16713863
Wrap the breast toy in plastic before using it as stuffing

>>16713319

That's good to hear. How are those holes actually as those were some of those I was considering, along with lolinco.

I got a couple of Tomax holes(venus real soft and lilith spiral waves) and I've been wanting to get some different types of holes.

I got my Meiki today it was in a plastic bag both toy and bag was super greasy. Normal? I looked at unpacking of Muses Arkhe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_3YFIvFWYk that toy seems fine.

>>16709919
>Onahole+daki
Actually pretty curious how you would even fuck a daki with an onahole. Dakis are pretty expensive, aren't they? I can't imagine people just cutting holes into that shit for a quick nut.

>>16714201
Some toys are oilier than others, Tomax has a bit, MagicEyes bleeds like a sieve, ToysHeart is about as non oily as it gets,

>>16714247
Well you can strap it to the daki or do a very fine cut and sew the edge of the cut for durability
Getting a chink daki is cheap as hell and I hear there are some daki out there with an onahole slot

>>16712559
>>16713140
>>16713223
>>16713327
>>16713376
Pretty sure its this.
http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-1021.html

>>16714335
Welp, you got me interested. If I'm reading the translation right they're taking reservations for its expected August release right? Looks like I'm gonna finally be using a proxy.

Has my lolinco gotten super loose or has my cock just lost all sensation?
You guys touted the lolinco as a super tight hole, and it was when I first got it - I came super quickly using it. But I've owned it for a little over a month now and I don't cum even remotely as fast with it anymore. Quickly fell off my favourites.

>>16714154
Venus Real all the way. It's the only toy I will ever buy if I ever need to buy another that is. It's a tank and it's as real as it can get with rubber toys. Why choose it over the Arkhe? The uterus node is harder to clean and dry.

>>16714312
How about using this instead of destroying your daki?
http://en-nls.com/quickview.php?pid=43567&c2=12001131

>>16714417
I've owned an inflatable daki pillow before. Shit kept losing air like mad. Had to reinflate it constantly, it was annoying as hell.
Dunno if it was just a bad product or if all inflatables are like that. Might buy that myself though anyway and hope for the best.

>>16709919
Naw I'm not ripping up my legit daki for that shit.

And I'm not buying a $50 knockoff on ebay either.

>>16714909
You're paying $50 for an eBay bootleg? Most I've seen are around $20 unless its a custom made one.

>>16714953
It's $50 for tricot but I have an original of it so I don't need it.

>>16709919
>>16714247
>>16714312
>>16714417
>>16714466
>>16714909

me again

I attach the onahole to my dick under my boxers and also wear something with an elastic band to help it from blasting off. I hold her close to myself too. The pressure helps keep it all from coming off.

Didn't really have many problems having to focus on keeping it all from going horribly wrong either. Worth it either way since I love her.

>>16714963

>referring to her as 'it'

Anyone from Japan here? I want to know what's popular in Japan right now.

has anyone bought a Puni Ana SPDX? Or is there a review of it somewhere?

>>16709761
To heat up the hip, I wrap her in a towel then place her on top of my radiator, then wait 15-30m.

Heating up the lubricant in the microwave for 20-30s is a good way to enhance sensation as well

>>16714980
It's a knockoff so it's an "it".

Mine is the only that will be referred to as "her".

>>16714335
God
WHEN will we be able to put the hand on that thing?

its me germaphobe anon. i think i will do it and buy a made in japan onahole. mainly because im so fucking horny and dont want to use inferior american holes. i will buy two onaholes lolinco and venus real. lolinco i'm 100% sure it will be great and intense for quickie sessions.
>

my only question mark is the venus real. does it actually feel like a real vagina? im only going to get it if its a definite yes. it has to feel 90% like a pussy!!

>>16715238 oops i meant at least 90% like a real life vagina lol.

>>16715238
Venus real. Just buy it. I kick myself sometimes for not having bought it for so long into my ona foray, or any other Tomax product for that matter.

>>16715268 it feels that real??? well if what youre saying is true im gonna pull the trigger tomorrow.

>>16704316
Yes. Amazing. I've got two, one as backup.

>>16715339
Buy a warmer and obviously some lube for it too.

>>16715344 >>16715354 >
hoooooooooooooly moly. im so stoked. will pick up a usb warmer and lube too! thanks anon.

>>16714352
>If I'm reading the translation right they're taking reservations for its expected August release right?
they do?
What price?
>Proxy
you mean like this site?
https://www.buy-nippon.com

Why a such big difference prize between Braless Sensei and Busty Aichan?

>>16714177
MoT is great but a pain to clean, feels pretty fragile as well
VAA is I dunno, constrictive but not very stimulating, you need a lot of lube to get anywhere, very easy to clean though (easiest one I have since it's both small and very sturdy)

What are the best puffy vulva onahole?

>>16716064
Lolinco

Is there a way to get my onahole to not be as loud or noisy when I'm using it? Because when I use mine it sounds like I'm putting my dick inside a rubber xylophone. Could it be due to the amount of lube I'm using?

>>16715917
Also my MOT tunnel veers off to the right instead of being centered, seems like a weak point
Magic Eyes QC meme seems pretty real

>>16713842
Id go with a band size of 32 as binding the plush tits flat reduces the chest circumference a bit from the 34" it is normally.
Cup size wise, I'm not 100% sure as I don't have Aichans, but I'd guess D cup for a soft cloth only bra, and probably a E cup if you intend to get an underwire bra.

Underwire will hold the tits better than a soft bra, also I use an "invisible belt" to help hold the top of the tits to the doll, its a clear stretchy adjustable belt.

For binding the plush's tits down in order to give the aichans a flat surface to mount to, I'd suggest using some 4" wide ace/elastic bandages, the kind with velcro on the ends, or a neoprene waist belt.

Also if you want your plush doll to be capable of sitting upright against something without folding over on itself after having a set of 2kg tits mounted to it, look into getting a cheap elastic steel boned corset, sized for a 24" waist and make sure to get a white or skin toned one as dark colored ones might stain the plush.

Oh and to smooth it all out a leotard or compression garment wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Has anyone noticed any ill effects when using a moisturizing hand soap when cleaning their toys?

>>16716091
If it's a one hole design, try squeezing the air out as you insert so there isn't any farting out with each stroke.

If it's a through hole design, try either doing the same as the one hole in addition to plugging up the other hole for a vacuum effect, or opening up the other hole so pressure builds up enough to fart.

And yes, less lube. Lube acts as a sealant allowing air pockets to form and fart as you go.

>>16714335
yup looks like those are them, finding shit on hotpowers is a bitch and a half.

>>16714352
The wait on backorders is until august, production is very limited, they've been putting out a few a month for a while now.

>>16715344
Wait a minute you've actually fucked a pussy?

Maybe now it'll dry

Do any of you use your breast toys as pillows?
If I ever buy one, that feels like it would be my primary use for them, it just sounds like heaven...

>>16716360
>feeding your hole silica gel when it clearly says DO NOT EAT

My Meiki Anri Okita came in the mail today
Won't be able to get to it til later tonight though.

>>16716360
You'd get a lot of karma if you posted that on Reddit

>>16716754

Anonymous liked your comment "You'd get a lot of karma if you posted that on Reddit"

>>16716360
Would this actually work?

>>16716692
People still buy Meikis? Why? The Venus is superior in every way and cheaper.

>>16717204
I have a micro peen and this one had the most narrow and shortest tunnel I could find

>>16717166

Not MoT-silicagel-anon here. I do this too. It works very well. You might need way more silica gel packets though. You can buy a huge amount on amazon for a few shekels.

>>16715804
According to another anon the August date is the wait time for backorders, price is 15000 yen, and yeah like them but the one you posted prohibits adult items.

>>16715019
I hear that those torsos with skeletons can break easier than soft ones

Hip-hip-who's goona gonna buy their first hip this month? Me thats who. Im doing some through research cause all of those bitches are over a hundred murricans. My current choices

Meiki pure
Meiki extreme
One of the cherrys
Cocolo (not really a hip)
Real samata

Help with suggestions would be appreciated. Or reasons why i shouldn't buy the ones i picked. I want something kind of heavier. The heaviest ones i saw were 12 plbs or a little under unless its that american vrap. Fuck me silly mega masturbator. What a ridiculous name.

>Get a Puni Fuwa Mochi 2000
>Comes with a pair of panties that fit
>Enjoy them immensely
>Want more

Where the hell do you get lingerie that fits a 14 inch waist that doesn't come with a visit from the party van?

>>16716523
I tried it with Utea Grace, hair and lint got all over it and I ended up moving it away while I slept anyways

>>16715238
>my only question mark is the venus real. does it actually feel like a real vagina?
I think so. It's a popular onahole around these parts so I'm sure some anons can help confirm
I think the Venus Real? It's a popular toy around these parts so I'm sure some anons can help answer that question

Since this is an onahole thread I assume you guys also fap a lot so might as well ask this here.
I fap like 2-3 times a day and barely cum anything. Even if I wait a week and then fap not much comes out and it doesn't shoot out, kinda just dribbles out.
Only time I cum a lot and hard is when I find something new that I find incredibly hot.
Did I desensitize my dick to fapping?

>>16719177
Do you edge?

>>16719268
No, that helps?

>>16719270
Yep

>>16719272
Awesome I'll try it then, thanks.

>>16719043
NLS sells some, or if your cheap you could check eBay
http://en-nls.com/disp_ca_lingerie.php

>>16719275
I tend to go for at least a half-hour, that and being properly hydrated go a long way. Plus edging makes everything feel better. Win win.

>>16719043
Buying underwear isn't illegal.

Everyone knows about the mouth of truth but what other good blowjob holes are there?

>>16719589
anon.....
there aren't any....

>>16719092
i know its subjective but i would like to see #s
like "the venus real feels 90% like a real vagina"
>
much appreciated, anons.

>>16717204
Opinions opinions.

Don't get triggered because someone else likes something you don't.

>>16716350
*sigh* yes.

I'm the dude from the previous thread who fucks his girlfriend three times a week and uses his onaholes the other four.

Spoiler alert: getting a girlfriend won't stop you from playing with your dick. If anything, you'll be using your onaholes more. Less stress.

>>16719680
yo i heard you have a zxy. how realistic is it compared to your girlfriend's pussy? like 90% like her pussy or........
>
second question. do you have a venus real? if so how does it compared to zxy/gf pussy. thanks anon.

am i the only anon here who wants the most lifelife realistic onahole?? my mission is to buy it if it even exists oh pls what toy is as close as it gets? just sleeves no hips or anything big please

>>16719701
I just want my dink to feel good
Either way it's the venus real

>>16719589
magic face if only because of being able to literally get head

What the fuck? Did I do something wrong here?
About 1 Year ago I bought my first "onaholes" (Tenga 3D) and really enjoyed them, especially the type Spiral.

Last week I orderer the R20 Puni and the Daisuki Hold onaholes and was able to test both of them out. I read a couple of reviews saying these are pretty good/tight ones so I was kinda excited to try them out....

I did not feel anything at all, maybe just a tiny bit but thats it, for both of them. The Daisuki Hold was pretty tight to enter, but nothing special at all.

How come i didn't feel anything? Did I use too much lube maybe? Did tenga cuck me into eternal 0 sensation?

Pls Help ;_;

>>16713383
If you're in a country that charges import duty (i.e. not the US) otonajp will undervalue your parcel. Not sure if NLS will do the same.

>>16720206
NLS undervalues. At least they've always done so when I ordered from them.

>>16716197
Siiick thanks bro!

>>16720273
Interesting, the only times I've been hit with customs fees ordering ona stuff is with NLS. Maybe I'm just unlucky.

>>16717215
When will you dicklets ever learn?

>>16714335
Is it really that good? It look too fake and jiggly:
https://twitter.com/tomas_nuru2/status/702102975888556032
Busty Aichan look more realistic

>>16720579
Please don't bully feminine dicks, they want to feel good just as much as the monster ones.

>>16720787
feminine penises are designed only for chastity cages and chastity cages only

Anybody else have the occasional mishap with their onaholes?

>get done using hole
>cleaning the outside of it
>forgot to clean inside
>go to dry it off
>giant glob of cum+lube mixture shoots out all over towel

Are there any good gay onaholes?

>>16721277
Onahole - Otokonoko No Gokujō Ketsumanko

https://www.otona-sekai.com/en/onaholes/2773-onahole-otokonoko-no-gokuj%C5%8D-ketsumanko.html

It's a penis with a butt.

>>16721277
>>16721302
Oh, and look for "Punyo in the Chinpo" on that site. It's for following your dreams.

>>16719589
I liked Superb Fella but it lends itself so much to face fucking I ended up breaking through the back.

So my very soft Venus Real has a tear at the opening, going from outside towards inside right at the bottom. I fix it with soldering iron, only to have it return during the first fapping session post-repair. Am I doing something wrong, or is it not that easy to repair tears in onaholes?

>>16721770
One of my muses got a slight rip on my first use. It hasnt changed since. Just be gentle and keep an eye on it. My worst fear is that if i keep trying to fix it ill damage it even more. But hey, the upside is theyre only sixty bucks.

>>16720579
Learn what

>>16697334
>I just have her sitting around in her underwear when shes home for easy access

I do this with my wife.

The amount of Venus Real shilling that goes on in these threads is a bit worrisome.
Is the hole actually that great? I'm looking into something to replace my lolinco that's gotten quite bad after a few weeks of frequent use. Loved it at first though so I'm almost considering buying a second lolinco - unless the Venus real is actually that amazing that it's worth picking up instead.

What do you guys think? Venus Real or another lolinco?

I'm not sure where to go from here, I feel like I've done it all.
All types of onaholes, dildos of all kinds, prostate massagers, electro stim, bondage type stuff, sounding and on all sorts of substances. Nothing just seems new or fun anymore.
I mean I look forward to VR onaholes when they're better and all but will it be enough by then?

>>16722616
I like it.

That's all I can say about it.

>>16722616
variety is the spice of life, going for the same hole over and over would get boring, not saying venus in particular but anything that strikes your fancy

>>16722616
The venus real has been recommended by the toucan himself as quite realistic with the best soup and I can personally vouch for its quality. I don't think you can really go wrong with it unless your dick would be a very bad fit.

>>16721145
slurp it up

>>16689620
Got my hanjuku in the mail today. I'll use it for a few days and let you guys know how it is.

>>16722891
Is it truly that realistic though? Aren't Meikis more realistic?

yeah I too am curious about realism. if I wanted to buy an intense hole I'd get a lolinco. if I wanted to get a realistic hole I'm not as certain. is the venus real in soft the best bet for realism?

>>16718683
the fuck me was decent when it was $200 and called '20lbs of pussy and ass'. not worth it now

my vote would be the cocolo, i like it even if its more a torso than a hip

>>16722960
This instance of the thread is the only time I've really heard Meikis in the conversation of realism

>>16722930
what's the deal with the pink top where the outer layer cuts out for the inner layer to stick out?
like they make a point of showing it off on the box but I can't figure out what it's for since I can't read moon, is it just so your dick can hit the end without getting squished against the harder outer layer?

>>16722987
the people at the toydemon forums say the meiki is the most realistic sleeve. more then venus real even.
>
yet when the eternal onahole threads meikis are rare mentioned and the venus real is the only sleeve i see mentioned as realistic.

so I have no idea anymore. need your halp guys

>All these firmness options
Which one was the one you guys recommended again?

>>16723092

Who do you trust more, the professional reviewers over at toydemon or a bunch of NEET weebs who specialize in obsessing over anime girls?

>>16723237
Have you even read the sticky my man?

>>16723267
Yeah it recommended soft, right? But there's three different levels of softness. Sorry if it's a dumb question, just a bit confused.

>>16723301
I don't really think you can go wrong with any of the 3 unless you have like death grip, but most of the anons here have the soft version

>>16723042
I have no idea why it's like that
>>16722930
First impressions with hanjuku.

Size: 5.5"x6"
Lube used: Onatsuyu
USB Warmer used

The hole is pretty loose, but the spiral texture inside is very noticeable. I tried setting up for hands free, but after ~15 minutes I just gave up and did it lying down for a few minutes and then sitting until climax. I need to set up better for hands free.

The bottom of the labia is already torn, which from my experience happens often and isn't a huge deal. The dual layer seems very durable and kept together for my ~1 hour session. Cleaning is easy too due to the looseness of the hole. it just kind of sits open. It might be the easiest hole I have to clean.

I'll give a more comprehensive review by the end of this week. I donated blood earlier today, which may have affected my performance and I want to try it out more hands free. I think Hanjuku is better than Venus Real(regular), I much prefer the weight and size.

Does anyone use a lube other than Onatsuyu?

I use Astroglide Liquid.

>>16723537
I use diluted (75% lube, 25% water) Finish & Sleep Lotion or Peace's for very stimulating onaholes.

>>16723537

dishsoap slick as fuck senpai

>>16723260
then please tell me anons, outta of 10, how realistic is the venus real?? assuming the toy is warmed up and lubed properly.
>
7/10?
8/10?
more???!!!
i know it is super subjective but it really helps me decide if i should get the venus real or not. thanks anons.

>>16722930
I bought this, If you have a sensitive dick. this is the one for you folks. Got too lose after 30+ times

>>16723907
I thought it was loose off the bat. I would consider it a soft hole.

>>16723803
Don't worry some members from the massive Venus Real 4chan crew shall answer your questions shortly.

>>16723989
Not my fault the Venus Real ruined other holes for me and makes me want to shill it

>>16723989
I assume most of us are virgins, so attesting to its realism is a challenge.

>Buying rubber vaginas to fap
>Instead of going with the infinite imagination and getting crazy like an alien vagina or some kind of weird puzzle for your dick with different shapes and textures everyone just wants to get the lame one that tries its best to imitate a boring, real vagina

Come the fuck on. There are holes out there that have multiple cervix/uterus with varying amounts of force needed to penetrate them and you're wasting money on the ones that simulate the fuckhole about half the population has?

>>16724076
The Venus Real is probably up there with the lolinco as the most recommended onahole. It's consistently talked about in Eternal Onahole Thread after Thread. Damn impressive given how "boring" it is. I don't own one, maybe one day, but even I can tell it's the real deal.

>>16724076
speak for yourself I'm fucking a dolphin and a frog

Is this a good warmer? http://www.queencatadulttoys.com/masturbator-warmer/

>>16724260
I had one, broke after the first 2-3 uses but those 2-3 uses were magical.

I probably just got unlucky.

>>16724260
Thats the go to warmer from the guide so yeah.

>>16724260
just stick a fork in it and microwave

>>16723989 >>16724034 >>16724038 >>16724225
yeah its super popular so there has gotta be some anons here who arent virgin.
>
the toy is called venus "real" so I neeeeeed to know how accurate the name is!!

>>16724378

Oh, sorry, it's accurate bud!

There you have it.

>>16724689
so is that a 7/10 realism? 7.5/10? 8/10? 8.5/10?

>>16724689
>>16724378
>have normal hard/softness venus
>can't hold a long steady fap like people said, end up cumming early or going flat
uhhhhh guys?

>>16724911
Is there a certain method or way or making it last?

>>16724931
Don't cum

>>16720619
I guess not much people have breast toy.

>>16724911

turns out you're gay, sorry


>>16724886

If you want the truth, the only sure fire way you will be able to absolutely know is to actually experience a real life manko yourself and also experience a venus 'real' yourself, then make the comparison.

Aside from that, you are just collecting assumed data from people online.

Buy the goddamn thing and have fun, or keep asking questions until you talk yourself out of it.

gomen

>>16725093
I'm in the same shoes as that guy--I think he's the germaphobe anon. Anyway I know that it's all pretty subjective, but I think he does have a valid question. The Venus Real's product name basically promotes itself as being realistic so we're interested in knowing just how accurate that is.

As a Canadian it's very hard for me to justify the purchase of a new toy since it's so expensive. Look at my first two toys:

>Meiki from Toydemon = $152 ($76 + $38 for shipping + exchange rate)
>Fleshlight from pink cherry = $95 (includes lube and toy cleaner)

That's $247 on two onaholes I threw in the trash in less than 3 months. (I made some posts in this thread on why I trashed them.)

I learned that I prefer organic/realistic/soft/subtle sleeves from using the Meiki. But:

>VR would cost me $101 ($50 + $26 shipping + exchange rate).

That's why I'm hesitant on gambling on my third onahole. I don't want $348 going down the sink. The shipping costs and exchange rate are killer.

Just to shill the Venus Real some more, for the first time in a few months since I've got it, I decided to take one of my other holes out for a spin and came to the following conclusion. Other holes are still fun, in this case I took my Lolinco out for a spin and it's still nice and tight, still feels good on my dink and it's still definitely better than my hand. But in the end I still wish I used the Venus Real instead, wasn't as satisfying during the ride, not to be conflated with stimulating, which it definitely is, but I had less control. I can usually ride along the edge of orgasm with the Venus Real for at least an hour with no real issue and when I decide it's over, end it in a thunderous slow building orgasm. I just don't feel like I have that fine grain control with the Lolinco, it just ramps up until the peak and I have to stop until it calms down a bit and repeat until i want to finish. Still came though, so that's worth something, but it could of been full on leg shaking temporally debilitating instead of a typical squirt and finish.

It has truly broken me.

ok will try tomorrow

>>16724886
>>16725266
Let me just say this. Venus real in soft firmness, as well as any other Tomax product, has ruined the other seven holes I own. Mere imitations of the true ancestor Tomax. I used to be absolutely fucking thrilled with the rest of my collection. Then one day I picked up Venus Real in soft, Dolphin in normal, and JK Idol. It takes A LOT for me to go back to one of my non Tomax holes, and when I do just for the sake of nostalgia, even the total favorites in my ona harem, they feel so hard and gimmicky... idk. Just fucking buy it. Quality of Tomax is fucking top as well. The holes you used previously and were in love with will feel like an burg fleshlight after trying Tomax stuff.

>>16695218
What do you have/where do you live? Maybe I can buy them...

Can someone please compare the Seventeen Bordeaux and Venus Real for me?

I want to buy the Venus here in Germany, but Omocha dreams is pretty expensive and those fuckers even priced it a few cents under 75€, which would be free shipping.

>>16726000
Venus real is much better. Seventeen Bordeaux has problems with its dual layer separating and doesn't feel that great. It has good suction though. I prefer masturbating with my hand than my seventeen Bordeaux

The Venus Real is the right answer for everything.
The greatest sleeve ever made.
IMO a solid 8.5/10 realism and 10/10 in everything else.

>>16726141
>I prefer masturbating with my hand than my seventeen Bordeaux
not him, but ouch
it's my first (and only for the next few days) hole, is it really that bland? cause it always felt great to me

>>16726503
If you like it then it's not, just take that as council that there's probably something more stimulating out there. Lots of somethings.

>>16723438
>The bottom of the labia is already torn
mine did that too, I think first time i didnt use enough lube on my dick and pushed in a bit hard.

I find that if you press down on the belly area while putting it in you can create a slight vacuum for the hole, I really enjoy the gentle suction it provides.
I'd also recommend that you dont slam your dick in too hard as I've been slowly mining through mine and I think in maybe another 8 or so uses i might just punch through the other side.

>>16726141
>. I prefer masturbating with my hand than my seventeen Bordeaux
I really wouldn't go that far. Seventeen bordeaux is great, it just suffer the comparaison with the Venus real, like any other onahole.

Busty-Aichan (bright skin version) or classic version?

>>16726865
I like white because it's closer to natural tits, although original has that nice soft pink to it

>>16726865
This is literally personal preference on the color, it doesn't change anything by the visual aesthetics.

Do you want a pair of goth titties or someone who gets a tiny bit of sun?

>>16726927
there are reports white uses a different material though

My Onahip is being held in Retention by EMS/Parcelforce UK
Says it's at the Post Office though and that it made it through customs
What did they mean by this? Do I need to go pick it up?

>>16727247
>If you package tracking has "Retention" status, it is either stuck at the custom for inspection or the package was delivered but you were not there to receive it. You should have received a slip/note from the postal office with instructions on how to retrieve the package. If you did not receive a slip note, high chance is your package is still at customs for inspection
Fuck lads, what do
Hip was a Puni Ana DX, I asked Otona to remove the packaging and the CD, so hopefully they did that otherwise that's why it's stuck in customs

With all this discussion of how awesome the Venus Real is I'm starting to get a bit conflicted. It's the only onahole I got so far but was considering getting some new ones but now I'm a bit worried if I'm just gonna get disappointed if it really is so much better than anything else. The ones I was considering to get were mouth of truth and lolinco.

>>16727350
mouth of truth is worth it.
Really different expericen.
Can't tell for lolinco.

>>16727247
shouldnt be a problem, it most likely means its at the post office if it said earleir that it left customs. has happened to me before (no uk) and I got a slip note the day after

>>16727350
They're both different experiences, Lolinco wants to force the cum out of you with tightness and stimulation and MoT, well, it's just it's own thing. I'm not sure how to put it.

>>16727353
>>16727382

Glad to hear that, was kind of my intention to try and find different experiences. I guess a hip is another option but that's a bit out of my price/size range at the moment, anything else that's recommended as something different?

>>16727434
Witch has neat suction which is fairly unique

>>16727558
I thought any given hole with a decently tight opening had suction if you squeezed the air out

>>16727574
True, but the witch is stronger than any other imo

>>16727574
Do you squeeze the air out before or after you stick your dink in it?

My name Frankie I am 14 years old and I want to buy onahole. Do I need to be 18?

>>16727675
I do before, then after too to make sure it's all out

>>16727643
huh, well I always did hear good things about it so it must do something right

Bought myself a Virgin Age Admission Hard ver. Should be coming at the end of next week. Pretty excited.
Only other holes I own are a Lolinco and Mouth of Truth. Anybody know how this new hole will compare?

oooo shit sooo soo much venus real shilling. wut do. only one guy said 8.5/10 realism.
>
I NEED MORE DATA POINTS, ANONS

>>16728360
Rubber Vagina/Vagina

>>16728360
it's ok

>>16728360
different strokes for different folks

Anybody have a dsdoll that can let me know if they are owrth

>>16728561
Gonna buy one next month.

>>16728360
>>16728395
>>16728487
>>16728548
no no NO! i need numbers and figures!

Why does it take me 10 times longer to come with a girl than with an onahole?

>>16729899
Because the onahole was made for you.

Also how long we talking?

>>16729890
17 in metric, 6.7 imperial

>>16730177
nooo! cmon pls! i need you lads to rate outta 10 the realism of the venus real. all these shills and only 1 rating so far! please and thanks.

>>16728360
>>16729890
>>16730237
The autism level is high with this one. No one cares if you need more data points.

Buy one, fuck a real pussy, and come up with your own data point; otherwise, please KYS.

best onahole / 10 !

>>16730292
sorry meng. T.T
>>16730308
sweet. hope that is true.
>

>>16725270
Venus onee-san understands how to handle you better than Lolinco-chan ever will.

>>16727434
Just tried out my first hip today- own a MoT and a venus real- all three are completely enjoyable on different levels- the hip is my favorite but the worst to clean, the mouth is fun and still sort of a pain to clean and the venus is great feeling and the easiest to clean. I also own a r20 uterus type thing and its alright but s little tight and a little harder to clean than the mouth.

Are there any good scents on amazon? I'm not seeing anything made in japan or with good reviews =(

>not punching your onahole as hard as you can with your dick inside

>>16731159
>break through

>>16731169
My vacuum witch doesn't have this problem

tl;dr - take some arrows, tape them together and use a car fiber cloth for easy cleaning, might work for holes/hips
>been kinda having a hard time cleaning my dolls
>the insert is 7 inches deep
>my index finger is a little over 4 inches
>need to jam it in and push hard to barely hit the back
>find out that pushing I been doing has been causing damage to the insert
>solder it up
>contemplating
>order dildo and eyeglass cleaning cloths
>dildo too thick and eyeglass cloths not absorbent enough
>take duster handle, apply wash cloth
>plastic handle feels like its ganna break
>back to the drawing board
>start to wonder where I went in my life to sit back for an hour or so how to clean my doll up all nice easy and properly
>cat is in den
>hear a clicking sound
>dog gets in on it and more clicking sounds ensue
>inspect
>they found my old arrows
>the arrows with strong thin shafts that can probabl-
>run out to garage
>grab ductape and while looking for it find unused car microfiber cloths
>take 3 arrows
>remove heads and feathers
>tape together
>apply cloth to end
>slides in nicely
>stir it gently
>take finger to inspect
>dry as fuck
>barely 1/4th of the microfiber cloth is dirty

>>16731199
>arrows
or dowels for those of use not jacking innawoods

>>16730237
Nobody can tell you whether you're gonna like whatever you buy, or not.
You've gotten enough feedback, and now it's up to you to bite the bullet.
If you think somebody can tell you that "Hole X will feel to you like 87% of the real thing" you're delusional.

>>16731579
I know right, it's about 84% AT BEST

>>16731579
T_T

>>16731435
Yeah inused a wooden sause spoon with a micro fiber