/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>16428618
They didn't say Zara's remodel would be for next maintenance you fucking mong.

Also improve your English.

(Damn I was about to make a new thread. Next time.)

>>16428618
Give me the Kai 2 already.

When did everything go so wrong.

>>16428627
I copied the previous thread exactly as is though.

>>16428672
The old thread didn't have Zara news or maintenance news because the last OP never added it in.

Upgrades when?

How do i get more slots without paying?

I just discovered that you can access Akashi's arsenal by clicking the crane in the bottom left corner (if she's flagship). How long has this been in the game?

>>16428681

>>16428681
Make a pact with Tanaka.

>>16428705
1-2 maintainances ago.

>>16428680
Imagine Yoshinori's mecha Taitei being a thing for April Fools or something, nobody would laugh at it now.

>>16428708
I spy exotic butters.

Does Akitsumaru have any friends on base or is she bullied for being army?

why does hoppo get so many seasonal sprite?
are there any chances for the other abyssal get their seasonals too?

>>16428800
There were a few images based on the 二・二六事件 with Akitsu Maru standing in for the army belligerents. The first fleet was present in Tokyo Bay at one point during this mess.

For all of her bragging about HeavyCruisersMasterRace, she couldn't even back up her talk. What with such shitty stats. (baka)

>>16428965
Because Tanaka said Furutakas and Aobas are shit.

https://exhentai.org/g/1019267/001c4c91ee/

>>16428680
Well shit, and I wanted to do that thing myself. What's the point of anything anymore, someone else already done everything I wanted to do. And he did it better! Just how many times that happened? I lost count.

I hope we get a Yoshinori submarine soon.

>>16429005
I hope Shobon makes a return.

>>16429005
USS Cavalla or bust.

>>16429016
I hope he never returns.

>>16429019
No, not the Shoukaku bully.

>>16429005

>>16429028
That was a good ova.

>>16429027
No need to worry.

>>16429042

fine tastes

>>16429038
What ova are you talking about?

>>16429043
Sure is peaceful these days.

What the shit

>>16429028

Oh boy, Poyoyon Rock kanmusus, PLEASE.

>>16429086
> Poyoyon Rock
That's adorable. But yes, I think if any girl designed by Watanabe is added to the game, she'll instantly be granted the status of the best one.

>>16429019
I would rather have Sealion, Harder, or Albacore.

>>16429142
But you can visit Cavalla.

>>16429102

I don't care. I NEED POYOYON DDs. Please, if there is a God in heaven, make it happen.

>>16429065
Peropero*Teacher.

>>16429102
It would be really cool if Tanaka had him do any ship.

>>16429150
>2-3 DDs/Subs
>they all have twintails, green glass bracelet on the wrist and a bandaid on the knee.
>optional school swimsuit and randoresu

>>16429150
>Still believing in fairy tales.
And no, I prefer Tsunako designs.

>>16429166
>>16429150
I think they are both meh.

Still holding out hope for American DDs.

>>16429176
My delusions tell me that you'll definitely get at least 1 American DD, so don't worry. And unless Tanaka decides to change the 6 ship meme, the next event ship might just be a burger DD.

>>16429163

>>16429199
Scratch that. If going by nation order, it's going to be a Royal navy vessel.

>>16429199
It's not a meme when it's been true for over a year.

>>16429203
I think you should stop looking for patterns in the shit Tanaka does.

32 recipe anyone pls

>>16429199
I really don't understand why people take the 6 ship max thing seriously. No one's delusional enough to think they'll add the full foreign navies, but it's doubtful that in the next 5 years they'll only allow 6 ships from each foreign nation.

>>16429205
It will be a meme if he adds another Deutsch or Roman ship.

>>16429210
All 300.

>>16429212
There are plenty of foreign navies like Netherlands, and Polish. Russia, too even though their navy was crap.

>>16429212
That' because you don't understand what people are talking about. Nobody cares what will happen five or ten years in the future. People care about this and maybe next year.

>>16429222
I do, five or ten years from now we'll be playing in HTML5 KanColle instead of flash. I want to believe.

>>16429217
Thanks, it worked with 30/30/30/80

The next foreign nation will be Finland.

>>16429234
Is that a coastal defense ship?

Do the shipgirls age?

艦これ」次回稼働全サーバ群共通メンテナンス＆アップデートは、来週水曜日【1/25(水)】に実施予定です。次回のメンテナンスに伴うアップデートでは、節分関連の季節家具、及び艦娘「節分mode」も期間限定実装予定です。少しだけお楽しみに！

>>16429266
Only sometimes with remodels.

How the fuck do i use the electronic viewer, it says i dont have flash installed

>>16429275
Read the manual.

>>16429270
Bean throwing holiday mode.

>>16429270
Inb4 Kinu seasonal

>>16429266
Sazanami said everyone was a year older in one of the anniversaries.

Honestly, three or four years would only affect half of the destroyers and some light cruisers and subs.

I miss the times when I was gensui by simply doing most of the EOs.

>>16429318
>Sazanami said everyone was a year older in one of the anniversaries.

Well that wouldn't be wrong even if they were 5000 year old vampires.

>>16429343

That's assuming time passes in-game as it does in reality.

>>16428832
battleship princess and submarine princess got summer versions

>>16429383
Which it does.

>>16429393
You forgot CA Hime.

>>16429266
If you want to count official art as evidence, then yes. Asashio, Yuudachi, Ooshio, Kinu got visibly older after remodel. Aging in real time is near impossible for obvious reasons.

>>16429417
satsuki aged like four years when she got K2

shit was uncanny

>>16429394

So a sortie actually takes only a few minutes in-universe?

>>16429394
You can go into nighttime and out in less than two minutes. I don't think time flows normally here.

Please explain to me why I should upgrade type 13 kai radars when I could upgrade more akiguns instead. They cost just as much and their stat bonuses don't seem nearly as good. Am I missing something?

>>16429457
Why not both?

>>16429450
>>16429452
Oh that's what you were talking about. I was thinking of how festivities come around the same time in real life and anniversary is celebrated in-game.

>>16429457
Yes, the fact that you have to use air radar for the strong AACI.

>>16429457
You only need 1 or 2 ever.

https://exhentai.org/g/1017955/7e43ed6fcd/

I'd like to have Sara as my teacher.

Why haven't you married Kongou yet when she loves you?

>>16429582

Because I'm too cheap to buy rings.

>>16429582
She was the second wife.

>>16429582
she's around level thirty

anyway, she says that to all the admirals, so i don't feel particularly bad about it

>>16429559
Shota was a mistake.

>>16429582
She's just plain annoying, and noisy, so nope.

>>16429582
I've married all the Kongos save Hiei, and I don't really feel like changing that.

>>16429635
Hiei is the best Kongou, you have shit taste if you married Kirishitma and Harrunah but not Hiei.

>>16429582
I value my eardrums.

>>16429644
>lesbian siscon
>best Kongou

>>16429615
Kongou is actually a pure virgin. Her marriage and secretary line shows she doesn't let just anyone have sex with her.

>>16429644
Objectively wrong.

>>16429417
I want to touch young Nagato's headgear.

>>16429678
Meganefag please leave.

>>16429644
It's kind of hard to find a ship that gives less of a damn about you romantically than Hiei.

>>16429695
>caring about romance
All that matters is stats.

>>16429687
What's the deal with the watch anyway?

>>16429701
It's not a watch.

>>16429582
Because I'm still resentful from way back when I started and she prevented me from getting my fourth fleet until after my first event. Also, because I keep getting her every time I do LSC.

>>16429582
I don't love her.

>>16429700
>All that matters is stats.
>re: Hiei
By your logic she's still shit because Kirishima and Haruna are better Kongos to marry.

>>16429700
the kinds of people who care about stats have probably married every ship except flat-stat DDs and CLs by now

>>16429710
What is it? I'm curious because it's pretty big.

>>16429582
>Admiral~ even though it's the time and place, if you forget the mood and timing... it'll be a 'No', you know?
Nah.

Are there other shipgirls, besides Kongou and Sakawa, that are explicitly (marriage lines don't count) after the admiral?

>>16429722
What? No. Hiei has the best stats of Kongous.

>>16429732
She just means to wait until night time for privacy in the bedroom, instead of getting hot and heavy in the office.

>>16429738
Tatsuta is after admiral's life.

>>16429744
This is Haruna fan level of retarded.

>>16429738
Ooyodo

>>16429729
A range clock.

>>16429760
You're talking about your own post, right?

>>16429744
>best stats

It's Kirishima, by the way.

>>16429768
Not him, but I was under the impression that, statwise, Kirishima would be tops, followed by Kongou and Hiei, and Haruna was bottom.

>>16429785
True. Haruna's saving grace is only her exceptional Luck.
Otherwise, so-so.

>>16429785
Kirishima > Hiei > Kongou > Haruna

>>16429785
Arguably Haruna's luck is worth trading 2 FP for, especially in combined fleet.

>>16429764
Sweet, thanks.

>>16429785
Not exactly. Hiei's bulk is worth as much as Kirishima's firepower if not more. BBs in general don't have problem dealing damage. Hiei's damage is sufficient. However she has better chance of surviving strong hits and that matters a lot. Overall differences between Kongous aren't big but I think Hiei has been always performing slightly better than her sisters.

>>16429337
I miss the times when I was gensui by simply doing a bit of orel spamming every day.

What's the build % of getting the turbine? I have two +13 boilers and 1 turbine.

>>16429903
>+13
+max is +10, are you retarded?

>>16429939
he means the amatsukaze equip that gives +13 evasion.

>>16429939
You're the retarded one, because he's talking about the +13 evasion boiler.

So I have two turbines and one +13 boiler, but three +10 boilers. What do I do about the upcoming event now?

>>16429644
>hiei
>muh curry
>muh kongou

Loving
Every
Laugh

>>16430096
Fuck off Harunashitter.

>>16430091
We know nothing, just hope for the best.

>>16430091
Craft boilers and turbines for dailies.

TFW next update only implement seasonal CG, they will delay kai ni after the event

>>16430252
What a slut.

>>16429644
Kongou is better. Kirishima is better. Even fucking Haruna is better.

>>16430277
>even fucking Haruna is better

Oh, yeah.

>>16430289

How do i turn dark my electronic observer?

>>16430302
>dark
kill yourself faggot

>>16430302
You either have to:
a. fork it and reintroduce theme support.
b. use chink EO.

The default theme is pretty bad, but I don't have enough free time to implement and maintain support for other theme.

>>16430344
What if being a beta is all an act?

How do I make type 21 green planes ez

>>16430344
I honestly do not see the appeal of her, her in-game sprite just looks off and I instant-scrapped her after the event. I guess people just like her hapless personality or something

>>16430368
Yamakaze would be mildly interesting if the emo aspect was an act and she's actually easily jealous. I still wouldn't like her much, but we'd be spared all this glurgy shit.

>>16430430
Is there even two-faced girl in the game?

>>16430435
Ooi is the only one coming to mind.

>>16430435
Tatsuta, Ooi.

>>16430252
So the guy finally did one for her? About time.

When's the friend function being introduced? It's been 4 years. What will friends do anyways?

>>16430384
Craft with Reppuu formula while praying for Reppuu. Desire sensor will give you loads of T21s.

>>16430463
E-Peen comparison.

>>16430463
speculate player function
chat function
trading equipment
friend combined fleet
2 single fleets clearing different parts of the map and combining at the boss

>>16430463
pretty sure it's already indefinitely shelved/scrapped altogether

>>16430481
>chat function
Would be cancer, pass.
>trading equipment
"anyone got a Shinden Kai???????"
>friend combined fleet
Fuck no, I don't want any shitty underleveled sluts for my events.
>2 single fleets clearing different parts of the map and combining at the boss
Sounds potentially fun, but see above.

>>16430486
They brought it back after the button was replaced by the android version signup. I doubt it's scrapped if they didn't get rid of it altogether at that point.

>>16430498
Do you not trust your fellow /jp/ players?

>>16430486
Much like Shinano, I don't think the devs actually know what the hell to do with it.

>>16430502
I don't trust the guy that got me into the game, let alone randos on /jp/.

>>16430503
Good, because I for one would send in a 4SS2DD support fleet to fuck with you guys on your last dances.

>>16430503
autism as fuk
>friend combined fleet
actually pretty good for newbie

>>16430463
Imagine /r/kancolle, himeuta, or from wikia wants to be your friend. Will you accept it?

>>16430513
Is that a trick question? Go look up Death Usagi's Facebook page and read some comments and tell me, would you?

>Abyssal start attacking your bases
>put 1 friend on defense and 1 friend on offense

>>16430509
Who cares about newbies, they gotta learn shit the hard way like everyone else.

>>16430513
I'll only accept /jp/ approved players, and by that I mean people with similar tastes.

>>16430525
Why not?

>>16430535
You probably have shitty taste. No, thanks.

>>16430480
I don't need reppuus

>>16430535
>year 20XX
>friend function added
>/jp/'s admirals instantly divided into different factions of waifufags and statfags
>wikia admirals remain united, then fragment when someone inevitably fucks up and gets someone else's ships sunk
>reddit admirals divided by streamers
>last remaining axisfags unite for one last time

>>16430513
It's a FRIEND function. That means you only co-op with your friends, which means you add elite players from /jp/ with 8 memedals.

>>16430554
But you have to trick the desire sensor into thinking that you want Reppuu, otherwise it doesn't work.

>>16430564
More like you can ONLY post here if you have 8 memedals.

>>16430590
Yeah but if you're done the event you can help the newer admirals finish theirs.

>>16430590
:^)

>>16430590
>Only 2 Catapults
Get out, you are not worthy to be my friend.

>>16430612
whats that on the right side of the A medal?

>>16430616
The blueprints you need to make jets.

>>16430590
>>16430605
>>16430612
Is there any reason why you don't open your boxes? are you at cap?

>>16430612
You're right. You should have scrapped those catapults if you're going to keep them as a trophy display.

>>16430626
It's nice seeing a big number when you finally open them.

>>16430626
Opening them all at once is more satisfying.

>>16430634
>>16430639
Autism

>>16430633
You can't get rid of catapults.

>>16430652
But you can get rid of the cranes.

>>16430620
It's to make Kikka specifically.

>>16430663
Indeed, I forgot I only needed the engine when I made Jet Keiun.

>ufw u are newfag
so i cant post here?

>>16430671
That's correct, go to the wikia.

>>16430671
You are only allowed to post about your setup if you rank.

do you guys not burn medals for screws or something? I find myself ditching em for more screws to upgrade more shit every month

>>16430671
Yeah, just don't be a retard and nobody would care like usual.

>>16430671
Yeah, it's called shitposting.

>>16430535
Abukuma is my waifu, please no bully

>>16430693
I buy screws, medals are for dupe ABKMs, cranes, and any emergency Kai 2 that needs it.

>>16430704
Bully you or bully ABKM?

>>16430693
I do.

>>16430705
I guess that explains it

Why would anyone unironically marry this shit?

>>16430713
I bully her with my dick.

>>16430736
You talking shit about Amagi, mate?

>>16430744
Amagi is poor man's Shoukaku.

>>16430783
Fuck off NTRfag.

>>16430788
>NTRfag
That's wrong though.

>>16430837
Top right is clearly the most fitting.

>>16430842
#11 too.

I've been 20/60/10/110-111 for weeks for a Reppuu and I didn't get it.

Anymore recipe suggestions?

>>16430954
Craft Taihou.

>>16430954
4/2/5/6

>>16430954
try harder

On one hand this guy is a rude dude, but on the other hand hes a cool guy.

>>16430954
It's a phase we all have to go through. Keep slaving away at that exp 6.

>>16428705
Since 22 December 2016.

>>16429517
Maybe if you aren't planning to upgrade T21 Kai for Maya.

>>16430435
Yamashiro

>>16430463
You don't get to bring friends.

>>16430502
You mean people that would lie to each other just so they could see each other suffer?

>>16427899 here.

Evasion from sonars is added as part of the evasion term, before the fuel penalty. So presumably it's a postcap modifier.

The evasion added is 1.5*sqrt(upgrade level).

>>16430626
I've never bought a single piece of furniture.

>>16431081
You're a shitty admiral. Reminds me of that sad picture of an Inazuma living in her admiral's poverty office eating from a can of sardines.

>>16431120

>>16431081
Madman.

>>16431139
I haz a sad now.

>>16431149
Can't afford electricity so she has to power everything herself.

>>16431151
The power of NANODESU, is there anything it can't make better?

I presume that red morale is for morale <23, orange is for 23-32, normal is 33-52 and sparkled is 53+. So anyway here's the yasen accuracy/evasion term.

I favour using an operator for the evasion cap to make things clearer. Since there are three modifications, three operators E1(x), E2(x), E3(x) are used.

Yasen accuracy term:

int{[((69 + flare modifier)*night recon modifier + √(1.5*luck) + 2*√(Level) + Equipment accuracy + Upgraded accuracy)*Formation modifier*Morale modifier*Attack type modifier] + Searchlight modifier + CA gun modifier + Night battle fit/overweight modifier}

Night recon modifier: ≤1 accuracy → 1.1, 2 accuracy → 1.15, ≥3 accuracy → 1.2

Equipment accuracy = ∑Base accuracy

Upgraded accuracy = ∑Modifier*√(Upgrade level)
Modifier is 0 for sonars, depth charges, AA guns, bulges, turbines/boilers
Modifier is 1.6 for radars with accuracy >2 → 1.6
Modifier is 1.3 for everything else

Flare modifier: 5 if flare, 0 if no flare
Formation modifier: Line ahead → 1.0, double line → 0.9, echelon/line abreast → 0.8, ring → 0.7
Morale modifier: 0.5/0.8/1/1.2 for red/orange/normal/sparkled

Attack type modifier: Secondary gun CI → 2.0, primary gun CI → 1.65, mixed and torp CI → 1.5, double attack → 1.1

Searchlight modifier: 7 if searchlight, 0 if no searchlight
CA gun modifier: 15 if 20.3(3) is equipped but not 20.3, 10 if 20.3 is equipped, 0 otherwise
Night battle fit/overweight modifier: http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?pid=196282413


Yasen base evasion term:
x = Int[Formation modifier*(Evasion + √(2*Luck))]
Formation modifier: Line ahead, double line, ring → 1.0, echelon → 1.1, line abreast → 1.2

First modification:
If x < 41,
E1(x) = x
If 41 ≤ x ≤ 65,
E1(x) = Int[40 + 3*√(x - 40)]
If x > 65,
E1(x) = Int[55 + 2*√(x - 65)]

Second modification:
E2(x) = Int[(E1(x) + Ship type defence modifier)*Ssearchlight modifier]
Ship type defence modifier: 5 if CA, 0 otherwise
Searchlight modifier: 0.2 for searchlight holder, 1 otherwise

Third modification:
If fuel ≥ 75%, E3(x) = E2(x)
If fuel < 75%, E3(x) = Int{E2(x) - [75 - Int(Fuel proportion*100)]}

Hit rate = {Int[(Accuracy term - E3(x))*morale modifier] + 1}%
Fatigue modifier = 1.4/1.2/1/0.7 for red/orange/normal/sparkled

Hit rate max cap is 97%.
(Accuracy term - E3(x)) is always at minimum 10. There is no upper limit.

>>16431180
..........

>>16431208
>using ... instead of …
Triggered

>>16430626
I open them when I need to, and lately all new furniture costs only a few thousand and maybe a fairy so I don't get to spend much of it.

I'm sorry if this is really old, but, did Tanaka reply with laughing images when people asked him why Asashio D and Kasumi B didn't give any equipment from their remodels, or why does Yuubari, at least at Kai, not come with 14 Twin after all the time 14 Twin has been introduced?

>>16431257
You do know Yuubari was introduced in spring 2013, right? Until she gets kai 2 she's not going to get 14cm twins as stock equipment.

>>16431257
They didn't want to bother figuring out how to only give equipment the first time you remodel them.
Because it didn't exist when Yuubari was added and they can't change stock equipment without a million people complaining.

This game makes you so butthurt about WW2's result.

>>16431276
Why would it?

>>16431260
(｡>﹏<｡) me on the left

>>16431267
Is it imposible to just change weapon ID from 14 single to 14 twin or am i oversimplfying?

>>16431271
Couldn't tying ship remodels to their ID prevent from back-and-forth remodel problem (one time equipment drop from each of the ship remodels tied to ship ID)? That may be to hard to do though, especially with how shit Tanaka and co are shit at coding.

this quest is gonna be the end of me

>>16431280
All the ships in the game are dead.

>>16431298
Some people are just into zombies or reanimated scrap.

>>16431298

>>16431291
>Is it imposible to just change weapon ID from 14 single to 14 twin or am i oversimplfying?
I am sure it's impossible.

>Couldn't tying ship remodels to their ID prevent from back-and-forth remodel problem (one time equipment drop from each of the ship remodels tied to ship ID)? That may be to hard to do though, especially with how shit Tanaka and co are shit at coding.
I think I have an easier solution. When you first kai 2 her, she gives stock equipment. When you kai 2whatever her, she doesn't give stock equipment. Now if you convert her back to kai 2, you don't actually go back to that remodel level; you instead go to another kai 2 level, one which is identical to the first kai 2 level except that the second level has no stock equipment. The conversion is then between the kai 2whatever level and the second kai 2 level.

>>16431298
Iowa isn't.

>>16431291
They just give us one time quests that require the Kai Nis and give us equipment.

>>16431295
Are you using night equips?

>>16431313
You'd need to create two placeholder remodels (Kai Ni Original with equips + Kai Ni convertible without and the same fot the second form) for it to work though.

>>16431324
Yes, that's what I was talking about. It should at the very least be much easier than tying remodels to ID.

Mamiya only:
Morale is increased to 50 if less than 50.
Flagship has a 100% chance. For non-flagships, DDs have 80% chance, CLs have 50%, others have 30%.
Any remaining ships with morale < 40 will have morale increased to 40.

Irako only:
Morale is increased to 65 if 40 or less morale. Otherwise morale is increased by 25.
Flagship has a 100% chance. Non-flagships have a base 20% chance. DDs, SS(V)s and Nagato have a +10% chance, CLs, Kaga and Suzuya have a +5% chance.

Mamiya + Irako:
Flagship's morale is increased to 70 if 40 or less morale. Otherwise morale is increased by 30.
Non-flagship's morale is increased to 65 if 40 or less morale.
If 41 or more morale, non-flagship's morale is increased by 20-31 morale (random). DDs, SS(V)s and Nagato have a further +10 increase, CLs, Kaga and Suzuya have a further +5 increase.


How morale works:
Sortie: -15
Day battle: -3
Night battle: -2
If starting morale was 20-29: -6

Expedition: -3
If starting morale was 20-29: -6

E rank: +0 to all
D rank: +0 to all, MVP gets +10
C rank: +1 to all, MVP gets +10, flagship gets +3
B rank: +2 to all, MVP gets +10, flagship gets +3
A rank: +3 to all, MVP gets +10, flagship gets +3
S rank: +4 to all, MVP gets +10, flagship gets +3


Perfect S rank isn't listed but I presume there's an added requirement of final total HP of the fleet being not less than the starting total HP of the fleet.

If no allied ships are lost and all enemy ships are sunk, S rank
Otherwise continue

If no allied ships are lost and number of enemy ships sunk ≥ int(0.7*number of enemy ships at the start of the battle) and the number of enemy ships at the start of the battle > 1, A rank
Otherwise continue

If number of allied ships sunk < number of enemy ships sunk AND the enemy flagship is sunk, B rank
Otherwise continue

If only flagship was sortied and she goes to taiha, D rank
Otherwise continue

If proportion of damage done to enemy ships is more than 250% the proportion of damage done to allied ships, B rank
Otherwise continue

If proportion of damage done to enemy ships is more than 90% the proportion of damage done to allied ships, C rank
Otherwise continue

If more than 1 ship was sortied and all the ships other than the flagship were sunk, E rank
Otherwise D rank


Huh, this means that if you sink only the enemy flagship but all your ships other than the flagship was sunk, you can theoretically clear a map with a gauge with E rank.

For A rank requirements, this means 1 out of 2, 2 out of 3 or 4, 3 out of 5, 4 out of 6 or 7, 5 out of 8, 6 out of 9, 7 out of 10 or 11, 8 out of 12.

For damage proportion requirements, the damage proportion for your side is int[(damage done to enemy fleet/starting HP of enemy fleet)*100], and the damage proportion for the enemy is int[(damage done to your fleet/starting HP of your fleet)*100].
Though I suppose if you subcheese 2-4 with Imuya and she does 1 damage out of like 300+ to the boss fleet and takes no damage in return, you get a B, but if she does no damage and takes no damage in return it's a D. I can't be sure of this though so take it with a pinch of salt.


On another note, in Vita only, feeding dupes of a ship to her gives further increased stats in modernisation.

And support fleets with 3+ CV(L)s consume only half the ammo of other support fleets. This is why aerial support consumes less ammo than other support types.

>>16431260
Please don't bully my wife, Kongou.

>>16431298
Watch Belfast be the British Cruiser.

>>16431333
Is Kongou your wife that is being bullied, or are you asking Kongou not to bully your wife?

>>16431295
Use Kuma instead of 2 DDs.

>>16431321
I am, or at least I'm trying to fit in as much as I can and still pass LoS

>>16431338
would, but I can't for the love of god find a Kuma; also kinda lazy to level up another ship to remodel

>>16431319
Seriously? Small radar kai, triple CD, a searchlight, a daihatsu and a rare sonar, with only the radar and sonar being any useful for fucking one time quests for 4 fucking historic ship remodels is a fucking joke. Especially with the stat bs that their alternate remodels get comparedf the other ships that maintan average stats and give good equipmnet at kai ni without said bs.

I'm really mad.

>>16431180
Also upgrades giving accuracy at night is only in the Vita game. In the browser game, no equipment upgrades can give extra accuracy at night.


Finally, 2 more things for now.

Ammo penalty is determined by
Damage = 2*Ammo proportion*Damage with no ammo penalty

According to the browser game, in the shelling phase,
Double line has x1.0 accuracy modifier against line abreast only
Echelon has x1.0 accuracy modifier against line ahead only
Line abreast has x1.0 accuracy modifier against echelon only
Some code monkey typed x1.2 for the Vita game, instead of x1.0.

>>16431337
Are there actually people who would pick Kongou over Prinz?

>>16431374
Yes.

>>16431374
Why not both?

>>16431375
Ok, good. I'm glad people pick the girls they prefer.

will I regret it if I scrap my myokos? I levelled them a long time ago but never used them so they've just been sitting there taking up space. I'm worried there will be a quest that requires the nachi sqaud weekly so I haven't done it yet though, but I need to clear out some more slots before the next event.

Is there any way to make EO or KCV use any browser besides Internet Explorer? I know EO was written in .NET or whatever but IE is just really bad and I'd really rather not use it

>>16431450
EO has it's own browser.

>>16431448
>Not buying more slots

Seriously though, if you're trying to be a f2p player, then don't scrap the Myokos.

>>16431457
>EO has it's own browser.
no it doesn't
look at the source

>>16431448
You need Myoukous (except Ashigara) for the monthly.

>>16431448
Just buy slots
And yes you will regret it. There's a monthly which gives screws, but all 4 of them are just excellent ships

if only

Eh, is there no MapHP for EO?

>>16431481
>still a Musashi-tier mess design

>>16431459
I already bought slots once and I can't justify spending any more on a browser game

>>16431463
>>16431467
I know about the monthly but I never bother doing it. I'm concerned that there will be some quest in the future that will require it though.

>>16431554
I was going to say you should just buy slots anyway but then you said
>I know about the monthly but I never bother doing it.

Why don't you just quit?

>>16431560
I can't quit until I get enterprise

>>16431564
I don't think Tanaka will add spaceships from Star Trek.

>>16431481
Was people so butthurt about Yuudachi K2 too?

>Oh noes! She doesn't look like herself anymore! Eye color doesn't match! Uniform is overdesigned now! Ear-like flaps on her hair! Chuuni scarf and edgy torpedoes!

All symptoms are absolutely the same.

>>16431578
poi poi POI

>>16431578
Kawakaze put the smug into the Shiratsuyu class; there is no more smug with her kai ni.

>>16431578
I want to a poi.

>>16431578
No.
For one she was an upgrade, stock poi is ugly m8. Kawakaze looks was a downgrade. Her huge clothing volume also look stupid.
Kawakaze kai2 was a mistake, should have let kuso ichiso ruined samiwho instead.

>>16431578
As far as I know, the community overall likes Yuudachi's remodel. Kawakaze's mouth and eyes look bad with her remodel.

>>16431578
See, Yuudachi was a ship that nobody actually cared about (until the anime aired), Kawakaze was (note: was) loved by many

>>16431598
>Yuudachi was a ship that nobody actually cared about (until the anime aired)
>(until the anime aired)

>>16431578
I love the redesign. She went from moeblob to nightmare of solomon.

>>16431602
I'm talking about human beings here (basically, everyone that isn't a statfag)

>>16431598
>until the anime aired
And they started to hate her more?
Anyway, isn't Poi kai ni the go to night battle DD that most people choose in the early game?

>>16431608
>And they started to hate her more?
No?
>Anyway, isn't Poi kai ni the go to night battle DD that most people choose in the early game?
No that's Kasumi

>>16431614
>No that's Kasumi

Time to wake up from your delusions anon.

>>16431614
>Kasumi

Are you high?

>>16431616
>>16431617
We're talking about post-anime meta right?

>>16431608
Yukikaze and Shimakae m8

>>16431618

Even post anime meta and maybe for forever. Yuudachi is one of those monstruosities that came out during the first year 3 quarters of the game live thanks to Tanaka thinking the game wouldn't last.

>>16431594
green eyes poi is cute

>>16431330
>For damage proportion requirements, the damage proportion for your side is int[(damage done to enemy fleet/starting HP of enemy fleet)*100], and the damage proportion for the enemy is int[(damage done to your fleet/starting HP of your fleet)*100].
>Though I suppose if you subcheese 2-4 with Imuya and she does 1 damage out of like 300+ to the boss fleet and takes no damage in return, you get a B, but if she does no damage and takes no damage in return it's a D. I can't be sure of this though so take it with a pinch of salt.
That's a D rank. I train my Maruyu on 5-3 and even if she deals normal scratch and doesn't get hit in return it's a D rank. B only happens when she deals strong scratch and doesn't get hit.
There's some minimum % of HP you have to chip to be eligible for B rank.

>>16431618
Kasumi kai ni form shit combat performance leaves more to be desired (similar to Asashio kai ni form shit). I still like them though.

>>16431627
>Yukikaze and Shimakae m8
>has a Shigure in that fleet
Are you trying to be funny? And both of those are rather hard to get, considering RNG pulling a fast one one some people with particular drops.

>>16431578
There weren't many people even playing the game back then, especially in /jp/. So there's only very few people that cared about her before the remodel and red-eyed Yuudachi is what they've known for years.
Anyway, if you actually compared both you'd realize Kawakaze changes way more, and normal Kawakaze is also more unique than green Poi. Better comparison would be the whole Yuu/Ro thing.

>>16431646
>hard to get
yea if you're retarded

>>16431652
I didn't get shimakaze until I was hq rank 96 or something

>>16431646
You can get them by the truckload by the time your shigure hit kai2.

>>16431578
Yuudachi was shit before Kai Ni.
ANyway, notice how uniform didn't change as much as Kawakaze's, it was simply improved in every area. Poi didn't lose anything from her base art upon remodeling, only gained a lot.
Meanwhile Kawakaze lost smug, lost navel and was cluttered with all the chuuni stuff. Furthermore her expression changed to that of a retard while outfit and general mood of the remodel should be screaming confidence. It's as grating as Koko's voice mismatch except the art got worse after Kai Ni and people cared about the girl before Kai Ni.

Yuudachi's remodel isn't comparable to Kawakaze's in the slightest.

>>16431652
>And both of those are rather hard to get, considering RNG pulling a fast one one some people with particular drops.
Please put some though when reading this. Acting less like an oldfag asshole will help too.

I got my Yukikaze within a week of daily doing at least 1 250/30/200/30 and Shimakaze only dropped from world 3 after 2 months even while i was doing that recipe the entire time (got 2 more dupe beavers though. And now half a year since i started playing, i just recently got another Shimakaze. >>16431661 definetely a truckload.

>>16431481
Toothy grin would be much better. Still an improvement over that dumb pout which is like the only problem I had with her kai ni.

>>16431618
Kasumi needs more than twice as much exp as Yuudachi does, that alone is enough reason for newfags to level Yuudachi instead.

>>16431618
Kasumi is shit post game, can't compare to Yuudachi, Ayanami or Ooshio.

>>16431594
>>16431595
>>16431664
I can see why one can dislike her new clothing, but everything else is such a huge improvement over the base sprites that I can't comprehend how can someone prefer old artwork to K2 artwork. She wasn't even really smug to begin with, and the old sprites overall were quite lacking in quality.

I'll be known as "that one anon with shit taste who really likes Kawakaze K2" then.

>>16431694
pretty sure a lot of the hate, irrational or not, comes from the "same face" syndrome of Ichiso which he is routinely criticized with, even if it is illogical sometimes

>>16431694
It's less a problem of shit taste and more that her base from looked more interesting. Then she turned into another Yuudachi. Even if Kai ni quality improved a little, she had the best base art quality of the Shiratsuyu class.

>>16431694
>but everything else is such a huge improvement

What? The weird pose, yellow eyes, braids and dog ears?

>>16431694
I think the new clothing fits her personality, especially considering she hangs out with Sendai.

>>16431694
If you took single element of base and compared it to single element of Kai Ni maybe then it would be an improvement (but not always - eyes, face, navel) but as a whole Kai Ni design is a failed one.
There's just no space to breathe in K2 design. It's overcomplicated.

Base art was showing confidence with the smug and pose. Little of that remains in Kai Ni. She got the stupid pout and the pose, while theoretically more dynamic, isn't as natural. The color scheme is also a problem. Blue was doing amazing job in the base art by lightening it up. Kai Ni however is just a mix of black and red with little of skin visible, it's harder on the eyes.

I wish there was someone with arts degree here, he could probably put my issues into words better. Because I sure as hell aren't satisfied with my explanations, they feel lacking when compared to what I feel about the art change.

>>16431694
Her K2 just screams "badass chuuni wannabe", idk. What with her oversized cloak, those bandolier, elf ears (?), and more.
Well, for me at least.

>>16431725
It's less of a jump than Yuudachi at least. Yuudachi's personality hardly changes despite her new appearance. Yet she still gets portrayed as an edgelord in fanworks.

>>16431740
You can blame the eyes changing to red for that which is always associated with becoming evil or something.

>>16431691
>Kasumi...can't compare to Yuudachi, Ayanami or Ooshio.
Bullshit, she's at least comparable to Ooshio. It's close enough that she's hardly a bad choice.

>>16431721
you're looking for the terms colour balance and cohesion

>>16431546
It's on View - Information, only accessible before you sortie though.

>>16431664
at least kawakaze still looks kind of cool. not only did kinu lose her funny pose she looks more like a boy than mogami now.

>>16431678
whoops meant to quote >>16431646

>>16431765
l i t a f f a m
I always wondered what the information tab did LUL

Is there a superior version of the death bunny event guide? since you /jp/tards keep shittalking it

>>16431798
Reading the wiki and lurking the threads.

>>16431798

Not exactly an event guide but I trust this guy's judgement.

http://imgur.com/a/s6Cvi

>>16431813
>recommending reddit as a superior resource to the wikia
wew lad

>>16431706
>>16431721
Everything is better, especially her face, facial expression and hair. You can dislike dynamic poses, but the old pose was pretty stiff and boring. Old face was badly drawn and looked flat and misplaced. The navel rendering was bad. The new color scheme is better because her clothes doesn't have big blue accents in attempt to match her eyes anymore. Just black and white, warm colored (red/brown/amber) elements and very slight cold accents on hair.

>>16431725
>elf ears

Elf ears are much more noticeable in her base art though.

>>16431813
This guy is EchIII, partly from Reddit, mostly spends his time on Himeueta, I've seen him, Let me tell ya, You fuck up and he'll taunt you till you die.

>>16431823
Didn't he delete his leddit due to all the bullying he got from the other regulars

>>16431817
>Everything is better, especially her face, facial expression
You can stop now.

>>16431826
He left last I checked

>>16431814

That looks like imgur to me.... still looks a shittoon better that shinhwa

>>16431823
>Himeueta
Didn't that site die? I was looking through my old bookmarks a few months ago and the url to himeuta was broken

>>16431838
They merely changed domain.

>>16431832
I've been here at a point of time before, I remember this post saying some dumb cunt was sucking the Wikia admins cocks so much she became lead editor, then rewarded people with a cute Tatsuta, I think that was Shinwhalee

>>16431823
>You fuck up and he'll taunt you till you die.

He'll fit right in here then.

>>16431766
Not with those tits.

>>16431847
This place is all about lynching the plebs, I remember

well that was easy, I actually finished it first try.

was expecting to go north and tank the dumb night node but I guess I confused the routing

>>16431854
With that fleet it's random north or south.

>>16430788
Shoukaku is a good girl!

>>16431569
>Knowing this little about the Pacific War

>>16431862
oh that makes a lot more sense then, guess I rolled the better route

>>16431798
Only guide that you need

>>16431888
>that_guy_from_a_TV_show_looking_unamused_and_holding_a_piece_of_paper_with_"sarcasm"_written_on_it.png

>>16431798
I was planning to make one for the new year, but I broke my hand. Now progress is super slow, but I'm getting there.

>>16431906
chinese/lunar new year isn't until a few weeks from now
加油！

>>16431578
I don't believe I'm the only one who prefers green Poi.

>>16431636
That's good to know. That would mean you would need to deal a minimum of 1% damage to be eligible for B rank.

>>16431813
This is mostly just an incredibly hard to read "which ships should I level first?" guide with some opinions mixed in, anyone that looks at the stat comparison pages on the wiki should be able to figure this out.
At least he doesn't forget some ships like Nagara and Atago are good when you're new.

>>16431646
>And both of those are rather hard to get
Yeah if you did everything except the catch all recipe and refused to do 2-4-A then I guess they'd be hard to get.

>>16431934
Not everyone is as lucky as you.

>>16431813
>recommending Ushio
I dropped that guide right away.

>>16431925
You and everyone else who brought it up every other time this discussion came up.

>>16431938
Most people are.

>>16431939
Except he isn't.You should drop yourself.

>>16431934
I remember when 2-4A was a suggested grinding spot with the additional perk of seal drops.

>>16431939

What Ushio recommendation?

>>16431953
It still is when you've freshly unlocked 2-4 and are preparing to clear it. Once you've cleared it though even 3-1 is superior

https://exhentai.org/g/1019528/963aca1dc9/

God save the queen!

>>16431985
What is that? A picture of a panda?

>>16431646
Yukikaze is the one that was hard to get. You can set up a camp at 2-4 to catch Shimakaze before proceeding to 3-2A. Pic related, a genuine Shimakaze unlike the fake china clone blue background Shimakaze from 250/30/200/30.
I probably got multiple of her from the recipe before getting the beaver. Besides there wasn't really much you can do back in 2013 besides 2-4 or 3-2. I didn't even unlock world5 when I beat IBS.

Anyone datamined the Vita construction and development tables?

>>16431988
I remember when my first 2-4-A for someone else dropped a Shimakaze.

>>16431985
Trash. Has just one good picture.

>>16431985
This looks too much like a certain character from Haganai.

>>16431986
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/1019528/963aca1dc9/

Nips sure like treating them as two separate entities.

>>16431988
nostalgic
I remember when the font looked like that

>>16432002
Why?

>>16431988
I got both Yukikaze and Shimakaze when trying to construct heavy cruisers.

>>16431985
Admire al!!!!

>>16432002
https://exhentai.org/g/1017138/96d2226c88/

So teitoku remodels his ships with the D.

>>16432011
It's fucking Taipei/ryuuho and Yuu/Ro all over again. Some now wish they could have two copies.

You may only choose one.

>>16432022
Fuck off already.

>>16432018
It's not even on the same level.

>>16429802
Gun cut-in is shit and Haruna a shit.

>>16432022
You are starting to get annoying.

>>16432022
Iowa, easily. 10/10 body and face, fun easygoing personality, not very smart. I bet she's into some kinky shit too. It's gonna be great.

>>16430444
>Tatsuta
I will find you cut you m8

>>16432017
That's nothing new.

>>16432043
Yes, that's something she would do.

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Did anyone get a message like this? Something about an exchange ball.

>>16432087
I did, just means you can exchange some ball points.

>>16432087
Yeah but it was for like 10 points and I needed a phone number or something so I didn't bother.

>>16432087
probably
all emails from dmm (like besides password changes and credit card purchase receipts) are kinda useless

>>16431578
>Nightmare of Solomons meme
>She wasn't even referred to that by either side
>Allies called it that time because two Kongou sisters were bombarding them.
Dumb fandom.

Has anyone actually been banned for refreshing? I just refreshed my 6-5 run by accident and now I'm scared of getting fucked by TheNaka

>>16432097
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/7/7a/YuudachiKai2-Night_Battle.ogg

>>16432099
Yes, say goodbye to your ships kuso.

>>16432097
What do you expect, they certainly based that character's Kai 2 and her lines off fandumb's desires.

The only two ships that kinda had a title were Kirishima and Ayanami, who were somewhat referred to as demons at that time due to their night battle experience from their crew.

>>16432112
FUCK
Do you guys think if I buy 1 man of dmm points I won't get banned?

>>16432115
It needs to be 10000.

>>16431988
>tfw your Bismarck is blue background china clone

>>16432121
Sorry, 100k.

>>16432018
>Taipei

>>16432114
>they certainly based that character's Kai 2 and her lines off fandumb's desires.
Nightmare of Solomon wasn't a thing until after Kai 2. She was probably referring to the hell that was Solomon rather than herself to begin with. People also like their Gato so it's an easy reference to sneak in.

I want to play yasen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aow8t03UB08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcB0FmlnvnM
Which one is better?

>>16432092
>>16432093
>>16432094
Whoa. It's a shit load of menial tasks that you need to do everyday to get at least a somewhat reasonable prize, otherwise you get barely anything.

>>16432166
Calm down Sendai.

>>16432190
It's fun that i am able to get exchange points, but since i can't register my phone number from my country, it's super useless.

Writing a guide for early game and event prep right now lads. What's the recommendation for normal carrier recipe?

>>16429417
Is that her K2?

>>16432300
No, because it would be a downgrade.