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What is the religion of your favorite touhou character? How does this influence her personality and decisions?
Many characters in the touhou series are shintoist, taoist, or buddhist, and ZUN spends time making sure that players and readers of his works understand this.

>> No.16420611
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>>16420608
Atheist.

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She's hardly religious, though she has dabbled in Taoism.
She's a logical person who believes in her magical research above all else!

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Cirno believes in the savior! Who this savior is, she doesn't really remember, but he can walk on water! Isn't that neat?

Cirno probably doesn't have any real idea about religion or the origins of her race beyond the vague notion that dying is bad and should be avoided, and so is acting like a jerk.

>> No.16420697

Despite being basically her religious leader's personal cheerleader, even she doesn't take it very seriously, and "sins" behind her back.

So, somewhat devout, but more concerned with doing the whole "flippant tea party goer" thing all 2hus do.

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Taoist? Buddhist? Both? I've heard buddhism is alright to have as a 'secondary' religion.

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Her religion really depends where you try and place her origin.

Hecate's associations with necromancy, witchcraft and poisons were most typically expressed by more highly Hellenized peoples of the ancient Mediterranean. These associations mostly stemmed from her primary association with "liminal" places; she was said to guard house thresholds, crossroads and city gates, all of which were considered vulnerable to very material evils such as burglars and bandits, but also to otherworldly evils such as ghosts or monsters. This "liminal" aspect is primarily evidence in Greek sources by some of Hecate's epithets (Examples include such as 'Propylaia' meaning "Of the gates", Apotropaia "who turns away", and Kleidouchos "key-bearer").
Because the divine wilderness was primarily dominated by another virgin goddess, Artemis, and that travelers and door thresholds were primarily protected by Hermes, Hecate in the Greek world was mostly relegated to the protection of the thresholds between this world and the others. This mostly meant that Hecate, like Hermes and Xanatos would function as a 'psychopomp'; one who leads the dead into Hades. In the Homeric Hymn to Demeter, Hecate is shown performing a psychopompic fuction, as Hecate leads Demeter into Hades to allow her to search for her daughter, Persephone. Like other psychopomps, Hecate became associated with necromancy and other “chthonic” (underworldly or earthly) aspects: one of Hecate’s epithets outright calls her “of the underworld” (Chthonia). Chthonic goddesses required specific sacrificial rites: Offerings were to be burn in or on the ground as opposed to on an altar. Such rites were not atypical of non-Indo-European fertility and household goddesses, who would, like Hecate, be classified as chthonic when incorporated into the Greek pantheon.
Her redundancy as a goddess to the Greeks, leading to her associations with the unsavory world of witchcraft, would likely mean that she was imported to the Greeks, or was a vestige of an earlier, pre-Greek and pre-Indo-European belief system. Some Greek accounts of Hecate hold her to be a Titaness who joined forces with the Olympian gods during the Gigantomachy (As depicted on the eastern frieze of the Altar to Zeus of Pergamon). In Greek belief, the Titans were originally sovereign gods but were later overthrown by their children, the Olympian gods we all know and love, who then became gods themselves. That Hecate would be spared destruction during the Titanomachy, be allowed to join the Olympians in later battles and be present among them as a goddess might be a preserved cultural memory which etiologically explained that Hecate was originally part of a non-Indo-European pre-Greek belief system that was later adopted into the Indo-European Greek pantheon.
Some schools of thought hold that Hecate was originally an all providing Carians house-goddess who protected houses (obviously), as well as travellers as they went into the wilderness, providing them with light (as suggested by her epithet Phosphoros, literally “light-bringer”). In Caria, a region in Anatolia (modern day Turkey), a number of beliefs promoting Hecate as such a goddess seem to be represented by her widespread representation in Carian theophoric baby-names and in Hecate-exclusive cultic sites. Though the Carians themselves were Indo-European, like the Greeks, they had a markedly different pantheon and settled Caria in a different migration wave: Thus, if Hecate was of pre-Indo-European origin, the Carians might have adopted her into their religion in a different fashion then the Greeks did. Until further archeological work is done in Caria (Literally nothing has happened since the 70s), we won’t know anything more about Carian religion, and what sort of relationship the Carians might have had to the worship of Hecate. If the Carians can be shown to have syncretized Hecate into their religion, then perhaps it can be evidenced to have originated before Indo-European involvement in the area.
Even on the Greek mainland, certain minority populations might have treated Hecate more favorably than typical. Hesiod’s “Theogony”, a geneology of the Greek pantheon, gives Hecate a rather privileged description and champions her as a goddess favoured Zeus, to whom all men should dedicate rich sacrifices (Hes. Th. 410-450). As this description seems incommensurable with other Greek portrayals of Hecate as a goddess of necromancy, witchcraft, and the underworld, some scholars take this as evidence that Hesiod’s favorite 2hu was Hecatia, or that Hesiod’s original village was an archaic pocket of pre-Indo-European Hecate folk worship which survived into Greek times.
All things considered, assuming Hecatia can be part of her own religion, then my favorite touhou’s religion might be pre-Indo-European polytheism, OLD EUROPE MATRIACHAL GODDESS WORSHIP if we believe the Kurgan Hypothesis

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>>16420608
i remember buddhism has a bit of history with Kung-fu

>> No.16424656

>>16421516
Considering Meiling believes in Tai Sui (And by extension, Tai Sui Xingjun), the odds of her being a Buddhist are unlikely.

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>>16420608
Autotheism.

>> No.16424695

>>16421445

I haven't seen such a well filled post in a long while. Thank you for that.

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>>16424672
Don't believe in yourself. Believe in Sanae who believes in you!

>> No.16424751

>>16424672

Stoicism. No cringy narcissism for me thank you!

>> No.16425004

>>16420611
If gods exist in gensokyo, wouldn't Sakuya better be described as rejecting gods rather than as atheist?

>> No.16425028

>>16425004
Yes

>> No.16425041

>>16425004
No.

>> No.16425085

>>16420611
>>16425004
I think she simply can't reconcile the thought of silly people she's met and talks to casually and fights as being somehow real or greater.

Or rather, any greater than Remilia, perhaps. She serves a devil, so it wouldn't do well to acknowledge those who are generally opposite to those like her mistress, whether it's kami or the singular Abrahamic god.

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>>16421445
>eastern frieze of the Altar to Zeus of Pergamon

Learning Classics with /jp/!

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>>16420611
Her goddess is Remilia.

>> No.16426318

>>16421445
So, ruler of the three hells is still a virgin? Wew.

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What DO Lunarian Goddesses believe in?

>> No.16434049

>>16434010
Dicks

>> No.16434236

>>16434010
R A R E
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Rumia is a jesus freak! She hates the gays, yet is stuck in a realm of lesbians!

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>>16420608
>religion

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>>16420608
Autism.

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Yuuka doesn't worship anyone

>> No.16442839

>>16420608
Koishi.
Buddhist.
...yeah.

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>>16420608
Like all good Japanese youkai, she's a Shintoist. Like all good amanojaku, she doesn't care about religion.

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