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Let this be a cosy thread.

>>16376640
>filename
wew

>>16376646
I's just a small c x number or am i missing some reference?

>>16376582
I'm asking because I'm having hard time deciding what to scrap.
10cm - useful for Aki guns
Poi guns - will be useful for Shimakaze gun
Urakaze guns - might be useful in the future
Libe gun - too rare to scrap
15.2 - I might create 15.2K in the future, already have one 15.2 max
SKC and 203mm - too rare to scrap even though I never use so many (4 and 5 respectively)
41cm and 46cm - I keep ~dozen each for improvement fodder
Dazzle, 381mm, spare 381mmKai, 38cm - I have no idea why I keep those but I can't scrap them
Bunch of various secondary gun - I only ever use OTO and 5inch but keep a couple of each rare one because possible upgrades/quests.
Triple Oxy and 53cm - never used them
M52(601), Ju87C, Tenzan (601), T97(S) and T99(S) - they all suck but scrapping them is hard
Burger planes - ditto but those might be at least useful soon
a dozen of Zuiuns for upgrades, some (634) which never see use butmight be used in quest
A lot of T22, T33, T13K, T14 for maybe future upgrades
Million of T3 Sonars for 5-1 - not sure if I ever used all of them though.
T94DC - T4DC is possible, right?
Boilers - I scrapped almost all +10 but have 13 +13
25mm triple - useful for upgrading 25mm triple
Other AA guns - I scrapped rocket launchers once and it hurt as fuck one month later.
8 Autogyro and 7 Liason - just why
Bulges - well, I at least use two large ones on waifus. Still waiting for upgrade effects.
T91AAFD - I hate these little shits with passion, especially since one of the five is sitting at +9.
7 Skilled Lookouts - the most I used was 4 in Summer but thanks to Maruyu I doubt I will ever need more than two. Sadly they were used for upgrading something and it might repeat.
24 P2W barrels - fuck off Tanaka, those shouldn't take up space
Land Base planes - half of those will probably never see use.

>>16376657
You could splurge on a few hundred screws and it'd solve your dilemma right away. But I don't think you will so here's what I'd do if I were you.

Scrap 15.2; I doubt you'd be making 15.2 kais in the near future since other things like Akizuki guns have higher priority.

41cm can go; they're not that hard to get. But keep the 46cm.

Definitely scrap the T94 depth charges. And get rid of the 25mm triples asap, be it by scrapping or by upgrading 25mmCD.

For the rest, upgrade the stuff that is most screw efficient when it comes to cleaning out your inventory e.g. upgrading large bulges to +6 costs 2 screws to get rid of 1 medium bulge.

>>16376670
Heh, there are only ~30 screws in my inventory, so I'm limiting myself to one upgrade a day.

The thing is, I already have all the essentials done like pic related so I'm a bit lost what to upgrade next.

I guess you're right about 41cm, farming one Mutsu only takes around an hour. T94 have disappeared.

I'll give some more thought to upgrading stuff, thanks.

>>16376695
Actually, I was thinking more of buying screws but I doubt you'd do that. If you still have 10cm fodder then spend all of it or something. I stopped at eight Akizuki guns because I ran out of fodder and can't be assed to get more.

As for 41cms if you're constantly doing minimum LSC for Maruyu you'll never be in want of them.

>>16376695
Are you going to marry her?

>>16376742
Maybe.

>>16376695
>farming one Mutsu only takes around an hour
Where? 3-3? I've been there at least 30 over two weeks and not a single Mutsu.

>>16376750
You better.

>>16376755
He means grinding her to 30.

Also getting Mutsu is piss easy if you're doing min LSC on Maruyu.

>>16376755
I assume you already have one in the fleet because combination of 3-3, 5-4, minLSC and events should provide steady supply of Big7.
Once you have her, sortie to 5-4-A ~30 times or preferably support it with PvP for first levels so she gains some accuracy.

Korean made android version KCV..

>>16376811
Link?

>>16376695
isnt +9 on the guns enough?

>>16376911
Nope. Decimals matter.

>>16376695
Just out of curiosity, what else do you consider "essentials"?

>>16376968
8+ CA guns, minimum 4 of which are (3). Preferably 12 for full CA fleet.
Upgraded BB guns for Suijou Butai, preferably for all kinds of BBs. It depends a lot on what BBs you have and when did you get their guns (for example older admirals can have upgraded normal 35.6cm, 41cm, 38cm Kai, 381mm Kai so they don't really need to upgrade proto variants).
2+ OTO
A lot of torps. Preferably some for Orel subs as well so the number can go above 20 but you can do with less than half.
Iwamoto, Iwai F/B, a couple of Skilled Zeroes.
Yamato plane and night scout.
A couple of stars slapped on one or more T32.
12+ T3/4 Sonars at least +1 and ~40% of that number of T3. Much more T3 Sonars if you want to train your DDs at 5-1 with fleet rotation.
5 AP Shells.
1 Searchlight.
One T89, two Ka-Mi.

Preferred values are +4/+6/+9/max depending on eq.

>>16376949
>Decimals matter
Not in this case, I don't think 0.1 * 2 ever makes its way to 1.

>>16377010
Shuoldn't you just consult http://akashi-list.me/ for upgrade milestones?

>>16377015
From 9 to max there's a 0.1 difference in firepower.

>>16377010
It always does anon.
Yuudachi has 73fp, there's +5 base. Two Akizuki guns at +9 give +6 firepower while max give +6.32. In greet T Poi with +9 guns will deal 100 damage. With max guns she'll deal 101.

The number of possible situations is basically infinite with all the modifiers like engagement, HP, crits or combined fleet.

>>16377025
hurr

>>16377029
It's my bad case of "read the wiki" but i always thought total equipment numbers were rounded down.

>>16377009
Is upgrading recon planes really worth it? I thought the value of LoS bonuses was anecdotal at best.

>>16377029
Whoops, I fucked up and forgot about guns' base power. Oh well, it shows how it works. Let's assume it was Ooshio and not Poi. Yup, everything's fine now.

>>16377044
It makes a big difference for branching. You can more than double LoS of Night Scout.

>>16377029
73+5+6+6.32 = 90.32
73+5+6+6 = 90

90.32 * 120% = 108.3
90 * 120% = 108

I don't understand.

>>16377053
(67 + 6 + 6.32 + 5) * 1.2 = 84.32 * 1.2 = 101.184 = 101
(67 + 6 + 6 + 5) * 1.2 = 84 * 1.2 = 100.8 = 100

It was Ooshio and not Poi. Really.

>>16377033
There's an image in the OP explaining it for a year or so now.

>>16377058
But then it doesn't always matter and depends fully on the DD's stats.

>>16377058
>>16377029
>>16376949

So... the difference between +9 and maxed akiguns is that a select few destroyers will get an extra 1 FP bonus? No thanks, I'll keep my screws.

>>16377069
There's a million other modifiers, green T isn't the only formation either.

>>16377010
This is the biggest misconception so I'd like to address it properly
>0.1 * 2 ever makes its way to 1
Yes, 0.2 alone won't. However your ship never deals 0.2 damage. If you have 69 damage and multiply it by 1.1 (combined fleet modifier) you will have 75.9 = 75. However 69.2 would give 76.12 = 76. See? It can make a difference even with smallest modifier. And now think about crits which have 150%.

>>16377069
Yes. Each ship has different benchmarks. You can calculate your upgrades for respective ships if you wish or simply go as far as realistically viable if you plan on using your eq on more than a single specific ship.

>>16377073
The same thing can be said about going from +8 to +9. Why upgrade beyond +1 in that case? And no, the difference is that every single destroyer can get extra 1 fp bonus, depending on conditions.

>>16377077
It's a bit steep to upgrade 10 Akiguns to max (70 screws with the slider) just for a +1 firepower in a few cases unless you don't have anything else that might be helpful to upgrade though.

>>16377073
With that logic why even waste all those screws getting it to +9, +4 is almost as good.

>>16377085
>The same thing can be said about going from +8 to +9. Why upgrade beyond +1 in that case?
Eh, guns, radars, aa, directors, shells, DP/sonar have milestones there that gives an average best stat points with minimal rounding down.

>>16377085
>every single destroyer can get extra 1 fp bonus, depending on conditions
There's bound to be a bunch who will get that extra point while chuuha/taiha and/or in red T/hankousen, which will most likely lead to scratch damage making it meaningless anyway, but it's a whole different thing for CAs and BBs.

>>16377044
The night scout definitely. I wouldn't say the others are really important, but last event seemed to have higher LoS requirements than usual so I upgraded some radars and observation planes a bit.

>Amatsukaze drop on 3-5
Good, I'll have my 7th boiler for the update, I didn't know she drops here.

>>16377180
>7th
And here I thought I was lucky having 5.

>>16377147
At some point I realized that I earn screws at about 10x the rate doing work that earns real money to buy screws as grinding for them and started buying them up.

Shortly thereafter I mostly stopped playing.

>>16377180
I have like 12 of them so I'm glad they may have some use at last.

>>16377180
what update

>>16377266
nvm read it on twitter, i doubt it's gonna be anything big though

>>16376657
Is T97/99(S) the terrible skilled planes that come with remodeled dragons? You can scrap that shit, even the flavor text says it's very outdated.

>>16377293
Yeah, those. Ekusa/Tomonaga counterparts from other dragons are far superior.

Did everything you wanted get scanned?


Of course not

>>16377503
None of those look like actual characters. Kill yourself, you are supporting cancer.

>>16377503
Nope, I'm waiting for the Yuugumo doujin by this artist.

>>16377503
>non-H
I have my fingers crossed.

>>16377503
All those doujins look like shit desu

>>16377503

lotta fatties itp

>>16377503
I bought most of the things I wanted, but it was only a few non-H books.

What DDs I level for sure for next event?

>>16377595
At least 70/Kai ni.

>>16377595
There is no info for routing anticipation yet.

What if Houshou was good?

>>16377630

Kaga would not be the most hated carrier.

>>16377635
I thought Akagi was more hatred since no one expects DAT UPKEEP when they first get her.

>>16377636
Epic.

>>16377636
Wasn't that a long time ago?

>>16377503
Wow I would have totally skipped them even if they were scanned. Those faces look like ass. Asashio doesn't even look a smidge like herself.

>>16377643
Fuck if I know, I just jack it to the doujins.

>>16377630
Tanaka could make her give chevrons to aircraft at 2 or 3 time the usual speed, but made her just a quest mule instead.

>>16377595
Akizuki/Teruzuki/Hatsuzuki, Yuudachi, Shigure, Ayanami, Asashio Kai Ni D, Satsuki, Ooshio, Kasumi Kai Ni (B is better but harder), Kawakaze, Akatsuki, BEPHblŃ

>>16377663
This would be great. Not overpowered at all because not mattering in combat but would make her very useful.

>>16376911
Maybe, or maybe not, but clearing out his inventory is more important to him than caring about decimals. If he maxes those guns that's an extra two free spaces at the cost of 5 screws.

>>16377698
DDs are so lovely they deserve max guns.

>>16377630
I think 1 more slot of 2 would be nice.

>>16377688
If combat boost is in question, he could make aircraft on her calculate with a +1 chevron at all times, making I (+1) as the default state and >>> (+8) as the final. Wouldn't make her too OP, but would add just a bit of overall power as a trained pilot crew bonus.

>>16377713
So her fighters would get for example +30 instead of +25 chevron bonus and bombers would grant +12% instead of +10% crit rate/damage? That would be very interesting upgrade. Personally I would prefer 4th tiny slot like >>16377712 says for her combat performance but your idea is very interesting and I would certainly appreciate it.

>>16377198
Took you long enough, anon.

>>16377198
>>16377760
When you pay money to NOT play the game, there's something wrong with you.

>>16377767
Weeklies are annoying.

>>16377767
Now I don't pay money or play the game, so I'm winning.

I came back to do to the New Year's quests but I'm still working on them and haven't visited some of these maps in so long I didn't realize they changed the BGMs.

>>16377774
I want Bw1 to die.

>>16377783
Bw1 is easy though.

>>16377783
I'd prefer if it were Bw6, as Bw9 is required for some one time late quests.

>>16377802
No. Completely no. You can get your shit together and do Bw6 once to unlock Bw9 for one time quest. However Bw1 is always waiting for you and it's super annoying.

>>16377805
Just go level up a Souryuu in 5-4.

>>16377805
Getting my shit together doesn't mean i will get adequate routing and that is whats pissing me off. You can get a ton of boss wins if going to 2-2 with a CV/L so it's rather easy if time consuming.

>>16377799
I didn't say it was. It's so tedious and you still have to kill go kill 50 transports after.

>>16377814
>Getting my shit together doesn't mean i will get adequate routing and that is whats pissing me off.
You will do Bw6 in 30 sorties or less 90% of time and you will be able to do Bw4 at the same time. There's nothing wrong with Bw6. Notto mention you get 5+kills with 4-5 so only a total retard wouldn't be able to complete Bw6 once a month.

>>16377009
12 max destroyer guns, at least 8 of which are Akizuki guns (the rest can be Poi guns)
12 Libeccio guns/Akizuki guns for DDs for support fleet
16 guns total for CAs/CLs, 12 of which are CA guns, 4 of which are (3)s. And 2 of which are OTOs
2 90mms or 5in guns
You'll probably need at least one of each BB gun, but the specifics depend on which BBs you have. Also 16 46cm/16in for support fleets
15 torps, maybe 16, and that's not including torps for subs.
10-12 Reppuu-tier or better planes for main fleet, 4-6 for land bases (so 14-18 total). At least 4-6 each of skilled M52 and skilled M21 for land bases
16 Ekusas, 32 Ryuusei Kai or better torpedo bombers, 4 saiun, 1 T2 recon
8 Yamato planes, 2 night scouts
16 radars for support fleets (recommended 24), 2 FuMO, 2 T13 kai
6 depth charges, 16 sonars. More if you want to grind at 5-1
Dunno about boilers yet, but probably leave like 4 around
6 sanshiki, 6 AP shells
2-4 AA guns with 9+ AA
4 midget subs
12 daihatsu
1 searchlight, 1 giant searchlight, 2 flares
19 drums
4 Akashi cranes
1 FCF
2 T94 AA directors
4 WG42, 2-3 T89, 2-3 tanks
2 skilled lookouts
3 Taitei
3-4 seaplane fighters
12 land bombers, 12 interceptors

>>16377837
That was about Akashi upgrades you retard.

>>16377783
>not ranking
>not having all the cool shit they've been giving recently
5-4 was made for those weeklies, this is way better than buying screws and IdleColle.

>>16377837
Well just take out the unupgradable stuff, then.

>>16377855
Meant for >>16377846

>>16377821
Wait, so rather than making Bw6 easier as a weekly option, you want it to be a kind of monthly quest or a one time thing at that.
Bw6 is shit and after all the effort it takes to clear it the reward is shit. Bw8 is normal as you need only 1 (one!!!) fucking win to get a normal reward as well as unlock a quest that gives you screws.

>>16377851
Nice Toriumi you have there, bud.

>>16377837
>(the rest can be Poi guns)
I'd rather recommend normal 12.7 because the only difference is 1 firepower while normal 12.7 are "free" to upgrade. Poi guns are a waste of screws.

>Also 16 46cm/16in for support fleets
That's plain stupid. 12 at most and more like 8 because you want T32 as well. I only keep more 46cm as a fodder.

>16 Ekusas, 32 Ryuusei Kai
Similarly plain stupid. 12 Ekusa and 20 RK+ are more than enough.

6 Yamato planes are enough, you will never use more.

There's no point in keeping more than 4 Sanshiki.

>>16377869
The argument for getting rid of Bw6 was
>I'd prefer if it were Bw6, as Bw9 is required for some one time late quests.
so I explained why that isn't an issue.

Meanwhile there's no defense for Bw1. It stops you dead in track if you don't fight bosses on Monday/Tuesday. And no, going for 20 carriers isn't a solution because then you'll be doing Bw6 without having Bw4 anywhere close to being unlocked. You have to focus on doing Bw1 every single week if you want to efficiently do your quests. It's super annoying.

>>16377881
Can't say much about vanilla 12.7cm or carrier-based bombers since we inherently disagree on those.

>That's plain stupid.
Sorry, I derped out. Meant 8.

>6 Yamato planes are enough, you will never use more.
Suijou 4 BB in main fleet, Ooyodo + 2 CA(V) + 1 BB in escort fleet, against a bunch of installations. That's 8.

>There's no point in keeping more than 4 Sanshiki.
6 CA(V) map against a normal installation boss.

>>16377898
Also reduce radars for support fleet to 18 I guess. BBs don't need 3 radars but Hiryuu and Shoukaku can do with 3 radars if it's for a combined fleet map.

>>16377898
>Suijou 4 BB in main fleet, Ooyodo + 2 CA(V) + 1 BB in escort fleet, against a bunch of installations. That's 8.
Night scouts. Against installations Ooyodo should be using 2 guns 2 WG42.

>6 CA(V) map against a normal installation boss.
It will never happen. Branching will always suggest a carrier, BB or DD. But well, I see your point, it is a possibility.

>>16377898
>That's 8

It's 7 unless you don't want to use a night scout. And Ooyodo will probably be carrying 2 WG instead of a plane.

>>16377898
>6 CA(V) map against a normal installation boss.
And 1 of them will be a seaplane fighter mule.

>>16377881
>Yamato planes
Obsolete shit, Ro43 are the ones you should aim to have.

>>16377911
>>16377914
>Night scout
Right, forgot about those. Well that's still 7.

>2 WG
Depends on the installation, actually. And besides daytime DA helps along the way too.

>Branching will always suggest a carrier, BB or DD.
Well yeah, but BB can use sanshiki too.

I also forgot that 6 sanshiki was viable for IBS.

>>16377923
>needing a mule
Nah.

>>16377941
>Depends on the installation, actually.
There's not a single installation vs whom 1WG would be better than 2WG.

Daytime DA of Ooyodo sucks, can only kill a DD in doukousen/green T.

>BB
Yes but in such situation AP Shell would be better. You do want some Sanshiki ships but 4 Sanshiki + 1 AP is significantly better than 5 Sanshiki.

Vs installation you will need fighters because they always have relatively high air power. So you either give up on day DA of all your CAs or choose a mule.

>>16377941
>unironically suggesting spreading out fighters for a single attack rather than having someone be a wannabe carrier for double attack
I wonder how you even beat Lycoris or 6-4.

Kanoya ranking:

1st place: 2933
2nd place: 1957
5th place: 1771
20th place: 1416
100th place: 1221
500th place: 867

At this point the first place is already fixed.

>>16378022
Not really. It's still in the range of EOs and he clearly did them on first day. It depends on whether he (them?) will keep up the current pace. Many people get well ~200 points a day. I've seen it many times where someone had ~1k lead at some point but ended up second or third

Sukumo ranking:
1st place: 1991
2nd place: 1821
5th place: 1751
20th place: 1505
100th place: 1241
500th place: 852

Palau
First: 2516
Second: 2353
Fifth: 1956
Hundredth: 1266
Five Hundredth: 852

>>16378043
>still no ガゼル, デネブ or 泉 in top3 or even top100
It hurts. Have they given up?

>>16377978
>There's not a single installation vs whom 1WG would be better than 2WG.
Of course, but with 2 guns 1 hotel plane 1 WG she can deal cap damage to imps even in red T or chuuha hankousen. It's just a matter of whether you want stronger day attack or stronger night attack.

>Daytime DA of Ooyodo sucks, can only kill a DD in doukousen/green T.
It's combined fleet. It's not that weak. She can kill a normal Tsu with that much.

>Daytime DA of Ooyodo sucks, can only kill a DD in doukousen/green T.
Well I'll just prepare in case of 6 CA(V) then. There's nothing that I won't expect from Tanaka. Other than maybe kaiten.

>>16377984
I just sucked up the AI- against Lycoris. Even with double support I had way more trouble with getting to the boss (you get AS+ throughout the sortie other than for the air raid node) than downing her.
6-4 had kamo route.

>>16378077
Quoted the wrong line for the 3rd argument. Whatever.

>>16378058

It is amazing that 100th place and 500th place of different servers are around the same.

>>16378022
Tawi Tawi

1st: 2850
2nd: 2607
5th: 2353
20th: 1537
100th: 1249
500th: 803

>>16378097

I wonder why are the top elites more hardworking and the bottom guys lazier in tawi tawi.

>>16378022
Hashirajima ranking:

1st place: 3812
2nd place: 2708
5th place: 2460
20th place: 1749
100th place: 1329
500th place: 1022

>>16378121

Have you ever consider ranking?

>>16378114
Tawi Tawi is an older server which has less active players.

>>16378043
>1st place: 1991
Hey it's my birth year, this must be a sign. Time to rev up that 5-4 spam.

>>16378022
>>16378043
>>16378058
>>16378097
>>16378121
I don't know why you only post these and not all of the servers, not to mention it's only been a week.

>>16378159
Damn, same as me. I'm glad I only have 252 points now, catching up would be too bothersome.

>>16378164
Maybe because I only have access to my own server?

How many points do you get from 5-4 anyways?

>>16378177
More than 2 per sortie.

>>16378169
You have 5 accounts?

>>16378185
Only of those posts was mine.

COME ON

>>16378218
>Kinugasa
She's so shit. I'm glad I got her to Kai Ni ages ago.

>>16378218
You were asking for it with a fleet that bad.

>>16378185

Are you retarded mate?

How did i get a B here? I only made 1 kill and technicaly lost 3.

>>16378218
Map?

>>16378291
Killing FS is automatically a B-rank

>>16378306
Oh, ok. Thanks.

>>16378315
That's why Akashi fleets are nice in PvP.

>>16378304
3-3

>>16378341
Your fleet order is flawed. While you made the right choice with having the only non-kai ship as the flagship, any remaining CV(s) should have been at the bottom. For 2nd slot I favour putting the next weakest ship, so Kinugasa would have been there. In short, switch Saratoga and Kinugasa.

Finally, it's 2017. You don't need a BB(V) for 3-3 unless it's for a quest.

>>16378247
Is there historical reason of why she has somewhat mediocre stats ?

>>16378341
3-3 is relatively easy (other than 50/50 routing; still, a lot better than 4-2) and getting a taiha before the boss is a sign of exceptional luck. At lerast for me.

>>16378362
No, the devs just neglected to buff her kai form since she already had a kai 2.

>>16378362
She was shit in real life. Other budget CAs got buffs on Kai but Kinugasa already had Kai Ni so this >>16378372 happened. I guess it was also Tanaka shitting on players who want to farm 20.3 (3).

>>16378362
Furutaka and Aoba class wasn't as great as Myoukou or Takao class.

>>16378372
You know, did they purposely do that just to make getting the 20.3 (3) a bit harder?

>>16377978
>>16378077
Also before I forget, even at night she can still deal cap damage against most installations. You don't need 2 WG to do that. You only use 2 WG if you're dealing with something like Ritou.

>>16378363
Getting taiha at node I (the one with elite Ru) is more common than at boss.

>>16378388
>even at night she can still deal cap damage against most installations
Umm, what? Show your calcs because I don't believe it.

>>16378389
For me, I always find that for 3-3, one needs to put stronger opening strike, in the case you would be routed to that node I.
That's why I often use CV(B)(L) and CLT there.

>>16378360
Was BB(V) a mandatory for 3-3, back then?

>>16378399
I strongly believe that using CLTs in normal maps, outside of events, is simply wasting exp that could go to CAs. I usually go with CV, slow CVL, two CAs and remaining spots go to CA, CV(L)(B) or AACI DD/CL. Most often I end up with 4CA2CV(L) but it varies, especially during sanma season where Abukuma or Ooyodo are quite valuable.

>>16378412
I used one BB(V) until a few months after artillery spotting existed when I realised I didn't need it anymore.

>>16378381
>>16378387
I'm not sure about that. Never had a problem with her even before I got her to kai 2.

Besides I find that 6 firepower doesn't matter much for 3-3 anyway. At 3-3 I treat all CAs the same.

>>16378396
Let's take imps for example.

Base firepower with 2x unupgraded 20.3(2) + 1 hotel plane + 1 WG42
63 + 9 + 9 + 1 = 82
Base damage done against imps = (82 + 5) * 1.4 (CL/DD modifier) * 1.6 (WG modifier) + 75 = 269.88
Double attack damage = 274.36 * 1.2 = 323.856

>>16378441
Also if yasen recon doesn't proc it's 310.416 damage.

>>16378441
No, don't take Imps for example. Take a normal installation with 140-190 armor and 300-600 HP.

>>16378468
Well okay then. If most of the installations are imps, then use 1 WG. Otherwise use 2 WG.

>>16378468
>>16378489
Also for normal installations sanshiki ships are more than enough. You don't really need Ooyodo specifically for those.

>>16378441
>1.4 (CL/DD modifier) * 1.6 (WG modifier)
No you retard. 1.4 modifier only happens vs Imps and DJ Hime. Single WG has either 1.25 modifier or none at all vs vast majority of installations.
You were outright lying in your previous post by saying she can reach damage cap vs most installations. Imps are literally the only kind of installation vs whom you can get anywhere close to damage cap with just a WG. Imps get ridiculously huge modifiers so using them as example for theory that you want to extrapolate on other enemies is just shitposting.

>>16378497
>implying imps don't make up the majority of installations at an installation boss fleet
:^)

>>16378489
>If most of the installations are imps, then use 1 WG.
It doesn't work like that. At all.
Imps are BY FAR the most fragile installations ever created. Two Imps are worth much less than a single Hime. Furthermore, Imps get absolutely obliterated by the shittiest of land bombers meaning they're non issue on maps with LBAS because they mostly die before the battle begins. And even if boss fleet consisted of 5 Imps and one Hime without LBAS support (which will never happen), 2WG42 would still be preferable because if Ooyodo targets the boss you want her to do damage.

>>16378495
You either completely lost track of what the discussion was about or are acting retarded on purpose. Ooyodo is there because the CL is required by combined fleet. If you are forced to use a CL you want her to deal some damage.

I wish the monthlies for 2-5 didn't exist. South route with 3DD 3CVL is so much easier.

>>16378534
Swap one DD for Abukuma. It'll be even easier.

>>16378503

>>16378534
bob'squad Kai Ni(s) should do the trick.

>>16378561
That's just one monthly famalam.

THIS FUCLING GOLD SHIT

>>16378580
Question anon. Do you often sparkle the morale for 5-5, or just go there with 49 only?

>>16378580
Hahahahah.

>>16378591
It had to be a crit anyway. No way Nu flag hurts Iowa without one.

>>16378591
I start with everyone at 85. I usually don't sparkle until the end of the day.

>>16378591
Not him but I always do up to 54+. It's more useful than support that's for sure.

>>16378591
Used to. Not anymore.

>>16378497
>>16378523
Imp hime when.

What kind of things do people think about when Re elite spawns in line ahead?

>>16378694
Buckets.

>>16378694
Why can't I just sodomize her and pacify her with that?

>>16378710
You need to gently rape her tail.

>>16378497
>>16378523
Alright, fine. So if Ooyodo with 1 recon 1 WG is not viable, then neither is CAV with the same setup. Which would mean that installation fleet is not the way to go.

So how about with Jintsuu DA (for those who don't like Abukuma, or if you locked her and don't have dupes) + 2 CA with DA against a normal enemy fleet with meatshields. With a fast BB required for routing.

inb4 just use CI
Didn't some anon insist on CAs using DA a few threads back? I assume this would also apply to Jintsuu as well.

>>16378737
>I assume this would also apply to Jintsuu as well.
Why would it? CAs are much stronger and have fourth slot. Are you stupid?

>>16378737
>So if Ooyodo with 1 recon 1 WG is not viable, then neither is CAV with the same setup.
Tone's DA isn't worthless like Ooyodo's is. Not to mention recommended setup vs installations on CAVs is WG + Sanshiki so I don't know what are you trying to prove here. Your "if x then y" analogies are fucking awful.

>>16378737
>Jintsuu in 2017
baka

>>16378737
It is viable if you want double attack along the way to the boss, but her advantage lies on her 4 slots. When you use Ooyodo, you want the installation dead.

>>16378747
Jintsuu's yasen damage is on par with CAs'. 4th slot is only for stuff like flares. Don't tell me you put a third gun in their 4th slot.

Besides the only CL most people luck mod is Abukuma anyway so if you have to use Jintsuu you're usually stuck with base luck.

>>16378757
>Not to mention recommended setup vs installations on CAVs is WG + Sanshiki
Which just means I was on the wrong track with using installation fleet as an example.

>>16378763
Ship locking for no dupes fags, etc.

>>16378773
Yasen isn't everything. And We were talking about installations. Jintsuu's damage is worse than Aoba's.

>4th slot is only for stuff like flares.
You are retarded.

>Don't tell me you put a third gun in their 4th slot.
Yeah, you most definitely are if you have to pull shit like that.

>so if you have to use Jintsuu
You never have to use Jintsuu, retard.

>>16378773
>Which just means I was on the wrong track with using installation fleet as an example.
Yes, you were entirely wrong since the start. Glad you finally got it.

>>16378773
>Jintsuu's yasen damage is on par with CAs'
Not against installations you retard, the torp stat doesn't count.

>>16378773
Ooyodo's anti-installation set up is 2x20.3(3) or 2xOTO + 2xWG.

>>16378778
>>16378782
>>16378787
>installations
I already said I was on the wrong track so I dropped that line of thinking.

>>16378778
>You are retarded.
>Yeah, you most definitely are if you have to pull shit like that.
Sure. Put a radar. Whatever. What do you put if you use DA on them?

>You never have to use Jintsuu, retard.
So who do you use? Abukuma dupe?

>>16378794
>What do you put if you use DA on them?
Read the wiki, seriously.

>So who do you use? Abukuma dupe?
What situation are you even talking about? Whole discussion was about installations.

>>16378794
Has there been more than 3 installation maps with separate ship locks in an event so far?

I think you would use ABKM, Ooyodo and Yuubari before Jintsuu.

>>16378803
Kinu is better than Jintsuu as well. And Kuma/Nagara are basically equal. I have no idea why is he so dead set on Jintsuu.

>>16378799
>>16378803
I already said I dropped the installations. The discussion was not about installations, but about a situation where you could possibly need 8 planes (7 hotel + 1 yasen recon).

>>16378812
So Suijou with 4BB and 2CA + Bismarck or Iowa. Not hard.

Is this ever going to be useful for anything?

>>16378822
Wait I'm retarded, that's 6 and a night scout too. I should go to sleep.

>>16378803
Spring 2016 is the closest you will get just by the sheer number.

>>16378812
So provide a situation where you need seven Yamato planes instead of trying to dilute it with some subject changes and silly Abukuma vs Jintsuu arguments. I'm waiting.

>>16378841
Like I said, Jintsuu + 2 CA + 1 fast BB for routing, all DA.

>>16378854
Why would you use Jintsuu instead of Abukuma?

>>16378861
Ship locking, for example.

>>16378863
That means we're talking about an easier map and it doesn't fucking matter what eq you use on easy map, especially when it comes to recon planes. Not to mention two night scouts are preferred if you think yasen is important.

>>16378827
Future radar artillery spotting

>>16378868
We're going to have 2 hard maps locked from each other and you know it.

>>16378877
Yeah, sure. How is your luck boosted Kasumi doing, anon-from-fairytale?

>>16378877
So spend 10 mins crafting another plane or just use one of your Shiuns, OS2U or Ro.43 instead if you really have to.

>>16378883
Haven't reached her yet, but she'll be one of my key ships soon.

OS2U or obs plane?

>>16378920
Shiun

>>16378920
Ro.43

>>16378920
Doesn't matter, both of the important stats are the same. OS2U just trades 1 AA for 1 evasion.
Upgraded observation plane is better for LoS checks though.

>>16378920
Shiun + Ro.44

>>16378901
As expected. She got her Kai Ni one year ago and you aren't done yet. Please calm down with your theorycrafting of recommended setups in the future. You seriously need a reality check if you want to be of any use to the community.

>>16378965
That's because I still don't have Bismarck yet you fucking Euro. But if you want me to give up on her then fine. I'll be done by the end of this year.

>>16378965
Well if he really wanted he could've done it in the first month. But there's more important shit to luck boost than a DD when the game gives you 2 decent ones for free.

>>16378965
The Maya Torp cut-in set up is even more ambitious

>>16378997
Yes. But more importantly I got nothing but duds and a second Yamato in my LSC attempts. The resources I wasted was more than enough to luck mod two Mayas.

>>16378975
>he doesn't have Bisko

>>16378975
>That's because I still don't have Bismarck yet you fucking Euro.

>>16378360
carriers first is fine if you never plan on doing night battle, which you shouldn't need if you're just doing the world 3 weekly

>>16378975
I don't think ID 14k and >50 attempts is that lucky. But yes, I got her in a year of playing and had a strong yasen fleet even before she appeared.

>>16379000
True, this one is quite ridiculous.

>>16379043
Why is Bismarck look smaller than Pudding there ?

>>16379041
I'm almost at ID 67k after over 3 years of playing and well over 100+ crafts later I still don't have her so yes, that's fucking lucky.

>>16379067
Meant for >>16379043

>>16379067
He's not lucky, but you're very unlucky.

>>16378975
You're not trying hard enough.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I just S rank 5-1 for the monthly and flash player crashes before it shows the clear screen

>>16379078
>flash player crashes

>>16379041
I'd rather not take my chances 2bh.

>>16379055
Because she's weaker.
She's a bit further away and they're similar size.

>>16379073
Whatever. The only LSC crafts I'll do this year are minimum LSC. I'll have everyone I want luck modded by the end of this year. Including Maya.

>>16379102
No wonder you haven't gotten Bisko, you haven't even tried.

>>16379107
>over 100 attempts
>haven't even tried
So someone asks me why I haven't luck modded my ships and when I finally decide to, I get bullshit like this?

Do these ids count as lucky

>>16379117
Just 100? Come back when you're at 300 like how I did for Army Dog, I bet you haven't even used the right recipe.

>>16379125
Where's your Italia?

>>16379125
I'm at ID 47k and I still don't feel like crafting Taiha or Shitmark.

>>16379125
IDs don't matter, tries do. I got my first Taihou in 3 attempts but she's almost ID 20000.

>>16379131
Don't have yet, Winter '16 was first event and I did Spring '16 on easy. I don't think she dropped in summer or fall.

>>16379127
I only know it's somewhere above 100. I lost track long ago. I don't know the exact number.

Taihou I don't remember either but it's around 100.

>Army Dog
Wanna trade? I got a shit ton of her as failures when I was trying for Taihou.

>>16379149
That sucks, that means you only have 2 OTOs. Hopefully she drops this winter so you can grab her, good luck.

>>16379144
Taihou was actually a random attempt for zkk, sadly enough. musashi was one of the 8 bisko rolls and yamato was probably ~20 or so.

>>16379157
Yeah that's what I'm hoping for, last large event ship I don't have.

>>16379152
I already got Army Dog on the 306th attempt. I had a fleet of Taihous but ended up only keeping 1 dupe. I'm still in the middle of leveling all the Souryuus I got from that ordeal since I only level up 1 a month.

来月前半には、「艦これ」冬イベント2017：期間限定海域を展開予定です。冬イベントの作戦展開規模は、比較的小規模となる予定です。歴戦の提督方は作戦難易度の選択が可能です。最難関となる「甲」作戦は高攻略難易度です。それぞれの参加予定に合わせて、戦備拡充をお願い致します！

It's time.

>small-scale event in first half of February
I guess Spring is gonna be the hard event of the year again.

>3 maps
Boring.

How do I fix EO? I forgot my github password

>>16379278
Download the source and edit it using notepad++.

>>16379253
Any day now.

>>16379253
Fast. So the event could be on Feb 3rd.

>>16379273
$20 at least one of them is 2 part

>>16379281
I'm going to laugh really hard if Aoba ends up being the new Samidare.

>>16379279
It was written in C# forms right? Would Visual Studio be better?

>>16379283
It says first half so it can be anywhere between the first and Valentine's. In fact, doing it with the Valentine's patch would be easier since they can add the sprites and leave them until the event ends.

>>16379287
If it's in C# then yeah since Visual Studio has all those nice tools.

>>16379289
They won't do it. Valentines will kick in mid-event.

You can play multiple dmm games (same account) without any problems right? Normally I would close one before opening another but I really need to finish my weeklies today

>>16379167
>306
Which reminds me. I'm going to reset my count when I resume crafting Bisko circa 2018. I'll just add 100+ to the total craft count. I'll see if it increases my crafting luck.

>>16379253
Feh, I guess I'll make sure to have 50k resources for this event. No point having Maruyu for clearing events if i don't clear events.

Hopefully Aquila drops as well. She's currently the only other ship I lack.

>>16379283
My money's on it starting on the 7th.

>>16379293
It never has m8.

could someone tell me about the new meta 3-5 strat with hayasui

>>16379328
>Hayasui
>new
>meta

>>16379278
Like, fix it for real, what do you mean?

>>16379328
>new
You lost me.

>>16379339
>>16379334
Well it's relatively new

>>16379346
It's from fucking 2015.

>>16379273
It can be fun like Rei-Go, but that requires effort and dynamic pairings.

>>16379352
What? I'm not talking about Hayasui the ship, I'm talking about the 3-5 route that uses her

>>16379424
The meta has existed ever since she did.

>>16379424
You mean, one week later?

>>16379424
That's exactly what he was telling you. The Hayasui 3-5 meta is from 2015.

>>16379424
>>/jp/thread/S14041123#p14047265

>>16379253
Will ranking slow down now that the event has been announced?

>>16379478
No, if anything it's going to speed up now that they've said it's a small one.

>>16376620
Why is Houshou so perfect?

>>16379535
You mean shit.

>>16379535
She is like a mother to me.
milf

>>16379125
They count as new as fuck.

so I got the ships I already love/want, and i have tons of buckets, devmats and materials, what do you guys usually do with it?

>>16379601
Get them to 155. Clear events.

Which shipgirl would you want as just a friend (with no sexual relations)?

For me, Nachi, Asakaze, and Kinugasa.

>>16379601
Your options are ranking or idlecolle.

How do you turn off the annoying flashing in EO

>>16379631
In the settings obviously.

>>16379610
I want to be friends with Asashimo, any boyish girl really.

https://exhentai.org/g/1015447/553b0bcca1/

>>16379610
I want to be Miyuki's childhood friend. I want to build a treehouse and go treasure hunting and stay out after curfew with her.

>>16379601
Feed Maruyus.

>>16379253
I missed a year worth of events, hopefully this event will give some good LBAS planes that I missed out

>>16379752
They never gave out named planes again so you already missed out on the best ones.

>>16379752
In 3 maps?

>>16379771
i just need more long ranged attackers so I'll take what I can get

>>16379780
I think you can get some from quests, and a quarterly quests upgrade a Type 1 into a better version.

What's the best fleet for the 3-5 new year's quest? Am I stuck playing with Hoppou-chan with my DDs?

>>16379806
Cranes 1CV 2Ducks 1SSV

>>16379806
high leveled sparked DDs, it works for me, but you'll be trouble on the CVs thou.

>>16379793
yeah I know that, I finished those. So I'm pretty much stuck until the next quarter refresh or events handing them out

damn event coming up already and I still don't have any jets. I'm only on 6-1 and I was waiting to level my taigei more before I tried clearing it. should I just buy the bulldozer? it feels like a waste after I already went to the trouble of clearing the mikawa quest, but I don't want to be caught unprepared.

Where can I download this app?
My gook friend sent me this picture and introduced it is android version KCV
It seems super comfortable

>>16379850
Wait until the 10th. If jets don't get improved, just fuck that shit.

>>16379806

So what do you expect will be added with this event, considering the short length? DD drop, DD reward, CA reward?

>>16379909
Fuyutski.

>>16379909
A Kamikaze class, and possibly either a Kagerou or a Yuugumo class DD.

>>16379909

Matsukaze as a drop, a duck as a middle reward and the first Escort Carrier as the final reward.

>>16379920
Oh man I can't wait to see how useless or useful a CVE will be. I really hope she has 4 slots even if her plane number is small, if for nothing else than to stuff a Sauiun on her.

>>16379920
>and the first Escort Carrier as the final reward.
I'm pretty damn desperate for new foreign destroyers.

>>16379878
>taiho
>ever

>>16379806
I bought Shou, Zui, Maya, Chikuma and two married DDs. Didn't have much trouble.

>>16379931
You'll get a Yarnall as E-7 reward in Spring.

>>16379909
Maybe final reward is another foreigner.

>>16379938
Zara was E-3 reward last year so yeah it's possible.

I guess we won't have to worry about ship lock this time around.

>>16379931
Every single event since Kon has had at least 1 foreign ship, this would be the perfect time to add a foreign non-capital ship like Zara last year.

>>16379946
One lock per map.

/jp/ let's play a game. If you have a pretty underused alt account, start working on it on the side until the event starts. If you don't have an alt account make one and start playing it on the side as well. Let's see how far we can get with new accounts in a small event.

>>16379952
He wouldn't dare.

>>16379956

Third map is transport gauge then boss gauge map, both maps have separate locks.

>>16379909
im still waiting for Suzutsuki

>>16379962

*both gauges have separate locks

>>16379806
Just kill her normally. The hidden ship is Prinz.

>>16379977
Why would anyone marry a desperate Christmas cake?

>>16379980
Anon, you should play the game instead of watching anime.

>>16379909
Hopefully Matsukaze and finally another Gumo or Kagerou.

>>16379984
I'm just saying, if she's past 16 she's already too old for marriage. It's why the legal marriage age for women in Japan is 16.

>>16379990
That would mean you can only marry some of the DDs.

Would I get banned for playing on two separate accounts at the same time while using the same IP?

>>16379994
Yes and?

>>16379996
I actually don't know.

It's definitely Abyssal Fubuki's time isn't it?

>>16379996
I don't think so if you run the two accounts in different browsers.

>>16380016
I was planning on running an old unused account on my browser while idlecolling with my android, but since signal is shit here I've been using my wifi for internet on my phone. I guess I could run a VPN on my computer just to make sure.

>>16379994
But the youngest DD is almost 73.

>>16380014
I would seriously consider scrapping everything if Abyssal Fubuki shows up in the game.

>>16379996
>two separate accounts
for what purpose? Starting from scratch is pain in the ass.

>>16380014
>it's a small event because it's based on the movie

Please no.

>>16380032
IBS round 3?

>>16380032
But why?
Just because the movie was panned that badly by the fans, you couldn't get the browser rendition of the movie event?

>>16380031
See, back in 2014 I really didn't pay attention to events, so by the time I really got into the game and did my first event, my fleet was already at the necessary battle strength that I could clear the whole thing without much problems. I never got to experience what a newbie feels like on their first event soon after starting.

>>16380040
It was? I saw that it was agreed to be okay until Nubuki showed up, but I'm not sure if they were exaggerating like anons do here.

>https://exhentai.org/g/1015338/cd39952b18/
Kashima is precious.

>>16380050
What I saw on twitter was Japanese people saying it wasn't good at all.

>>16380014
>Your time is up, my time is now. You can't see me, my time is now. It's the franchise, boy I'm shinin' now. You can't see me, my time is now!

So, Fubuki is the John Cena of CanThis now?

>>16380051
She should watch her weight

>>16380050
From what I read they thought it was decent at the start and then started going full retard with Kisaragi turning abyssal and then the whole evil Fubuki nonsense.

>>16380053
Oh, I was following Futaba threads, using twitter is weird.

>>16380057

I like my ships equipped with an extra torpedo bulge.

Everyone will soon apologize to Fubuki like they did to Sakawa.

>>16380094
I never apologized to the runt, I only used Nagato and Prinz. I still won't apologize to Shitbuki, if anything I'll send a level 1 Shitbuki to get sunk by her abyssal self.

>>16380094
>Sakawa
Now that was a huge disappointment.

>>16380046
I did and I didn't really enjoy it as much as later events because I couldn't even clear the last map on babby mode and missed out on some good rewards on the higher difficulties.
I guess the good thing is that I got some ships like Ooyodo and Akashi really early and didn't have to farm normal maps or spam construction to get Kaga, Cranes, etc. Also being a newfag just getting a bunch of cute trophy DDs felt nice.

>>16380094
At least Sakawa wasn't shilled hard by Tanaka, unlike certain everyone-hope fail mc.

>>16380032
>ship locks apply on all maps except for Fubuki
>Fubuki K2 needed for guaranteed boss routing
>boss is Abyssal Fubuki
>Boss can only be killed by Fubuki
>Fubuki disappears from your fleet once the boss is killed
>map reward is Fubuki
>final map equipment reward is a prototype turbine for Fubuki K3
>Shibafu's PC broke, so Fubuki K3 becomes the first shipgirl with MS Paint CG

>>16380094
I got Sawaka during the event.

She is still level 1.

>>16380118
>Fubuki kai 3
Make it happen!

>>16380129
>Fubuki kai 3
>It's just abyssal Fubuki

>>16380147

>Fubuki is the first collectable abyssal
>And the only collectable abyssal for the next two years

What if they implement a temporary abyssal mode a ship can enter under select conditions?

>>16380165
Let's not.

>>16380165
Sounds like shit.

>>16380165
I just want reversed engineered equipment.

when will they turn the LBAS into girls like the abyssal counter-part?

>>16380237
Never.

>>16380237
I'm still assblasted this didn't happen. I still remember how excited people were at the possibility of an air base girl. Then all we get is a boring menu with a windmill graphic. What am I suppose to imagine, a living room carpet sized base full of fairies?

>there are still people that use a BBV for 1-5

>>16380251
It was only a couple of retards who thought it was going to happen. I kept telling you niggers that it won't happen but you wouldn't listen and got excited for no reason.

>>16380254
Am I not allowed to use my waifu in maps that she gets good routing for?

>>16380260
The BBV doesn't affect routing at all.

>>16380260
Only the CVL/AV/whatever is necessary. If you're not in it for levels, it's a bit wasteful.

>>16380254
I didn't realize going for the auto win is something we shouldn't be doing.

>>16380323
Three DDs with ASW higher than 100 is the new auto win.

>>16380323
3DD 1AV is autowin already, anon.

>>16380343
ZuiZui ruined it.

>>16380323
2 or 3 opening ASW is autowin now. BBV is autowin with triple the resources.

So I used my credit card on DMM before being told by my friend that I need to use a VPN for purchasing credits from DMM, how fucked am I for being banned now?

>>16380339
But that means you can't train low level DDs while doing EOs.

>>16380367
Your friend is a retard.

>>16380367
Your friend is a dumbass.

>>16380367
You're fucked man.

>>16380367
Using a VPN is what you're not supposed to do.

>>16380367
Your friend is lying.

>>16380367
Tell your friend he's a retard.

>>16380367
Your friend has shit for brains.

Is Akashi being a condescending cunt when she says you need to be repaired too or is she genuinely worried for you?

>>16380503
The latter.

>>16380367
DMM does not give a shit.
Kadokawa does not give a shit,
Japs don't give a shit.

They only implement the no foreigner rule so Westerners don't bitch about r18 rape hentai games. They don't care for weebs breaking that rule. It's like when you go 80 on a 65 freeway; no one gives a shit, not even the cops, though you're technically breaking the law.

>>16380503
She just wants your dick.

>>16379253
>small event

thank fucking christ

>>16380553
>not wanting a large event

>>16380553
>being a small event loving pleb
Small events are the worst. Retarded newfags and kuso admirals thinking they're the shit for beating it finally on Hard mode. Not to mention it's just boring.

>>16380563
That's not even why small events are shit, it's mainly because they can only release 4 new ships.

>>16380556
>>16380563
I rather have Spring and Summer fuck me in the ass thank you.

>>16380556
>wanting a stupid bucket consumption excuse

>>16380556
It's mandatory that every event have some transport gauges and debuffing that takes longer than the actual clearing, so large events are getting to be a pain in the ass. I'd rather have fewer and more memorable maps so long as they're still difficult.

>>16380570
Good. Maybe they'll release some more Kai2s instead.

>>16380577
Not gonna happen.

>>16380583
From the thumbnail I thought those two were carrying American flags.

I need to sleep.

>>16380563
Winter 2016 was not boring

>>16380635
It was, at least it gave some good rewards, except the pasta plane from E3 that they made incredibly easy to craft right after.

>>16380570
>only release 4 new ships

Anon, we only got 3 the last time there was a "small event". 4 (or a few more if you look further back) is your standard fare for medium, 5-7 for large.

>>16379952
>>16379962
>winter
>ship locking
Pick one

So apparently 45410900 yen yields 858 batches of Maruyu. Anyone want to give it a shot?

>>16380728
Sure only you pay it for me.

Whoops, I calculated wrongly. It should be 45153500 excluding flamethrowers, and 61798700 including flamethrowers. 277420 flamethrowers are required for 858 Maruyu.

285 八八資源セット (880/880/880/880)
176 お買い得！工廠セット (200/200/1500/200)
286 お買い得！出撃セット (500/500/200)
This costs 465500 yen, and yields 286 attempts.
The chance of crafting Maruyu is 15/97 with one dock space, which is the highest chance.
So 465500*97 = 45153500 yen for 286*15 = 4290 Maruyu, or 858 batches.

Obviously if you're mass crafting Maruyu you'll want to use flamethrowers, and they cost 300 for 5. So it's an additional 600 yen per attempt, which uses 10 flamethrowers.

45153500 + 286*600*97 = 61798700

>>16380750
Also devmat cost isn't factored in as お買い得！工廠セット gives 2 devmats each, so you'll actually end with a devmat surplus.

>>16380750
Nobody cares and nobody is going to do this, why did you even bother calculating this?

>>16380761
Because I'm bored.

>>16380766
I think it's time for you to fap, my dude.

>Ayanami
>elite
My ass.

>>16380771
What happened this time, anon?

>>16380771
give her some slack - she must be having some personal issues

>>16380766
You, my friend, honestly need to get laid.

>>16379253
F6F-3 as map reward, maybe?

What good are Aganos beside being chubby CLs?