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What are you guys most excited for next year?

メリークリスマス!

>>16309026
Hyped as fuck for the new Lovely x Cation.

>>16309026
a nice winter vn and a comfy countryside summer vn

Maybe this is a little off topic, if so then my apologies. But I just saw a girl get cold and sneeze in an eroge I was reading. Do Japanese people actually sneeze when they get cold? Is it a genetic thing? When I get cold, I may shiver, or my teeth may clatter, or I may rub my hands together to cause friction and create warmth. I never have sneezed because I was cold. But then again, I am of European descent.

Normally I would just chalk it up to being another dumb anime cliche. However, I have a friend who suffers from ACHOO syndrome so I realize there are different things that cause sneezing for different people, some of them possibly having basis in one's genetics. Maybe sneezing when someone gets chilly is a real thing? If anyone could shed light on this I'd be very interested in hearing about it. Thank you.

https://vndb.org/v19255

>>16309119

>>16309066
I sneeze when I get cold. Please delete this.

So I finally reached the end of the the trial. I know the other guy said that they're different, but it seems it's just ~3 new scenes inserted near the start and everything else is identical.

This is going to be the best Christmas ever.

Just started 仄暗き時の果てより, and it's pretty comfy so far. At the same time I'm wondering if I can actually expect a dark game throughout, or if it's just going to be disney shit with no gore or death. Has anyone here read サクラノモリ†ドリーマーズ from the same writer/studio?

It's even Christmas-themed!

How come whenever someone posts screenshots of Watanabe's games they look like the most retarded shit

>>16309442
Cause they have a lot of sex jokes and you're associate them unjustly with retardation.

Since I fucked up last thread please let me apologize again and redo thing.

Had anyone finished Yomegami yet? I just finish first route after 4 days. However I was wondering about the end.
How did MC and Mikoto could come back to reality after 2 days only? Is it because the god who can travel through time brings back the sealing stone from the future back to current time.
I'm not really sure so if anyone know please help me.

>>16310034
Why worry about the plot of a kusoge cum moege?

>>16302452
It's part of the callbacks.

>>16310059
It keeps bugging me since yesterday. I dont want to overlook stuff and move on without knowing the real answer.

>>16310135
I want to read Liber 7 but I haven't read 11 eyes, how bad would it be to skip it?

Merikuri

>>16309016
>>16309025
We won't be able to post these next year

>>16310227
As far as I can tell, Liber7 is its own self contained story just as 11eyes is. Unlike that pic which is in jest, I've seen a couple offhand direct references to events in 11eyes but they're not plot important I don't think, thought I'm only in the very beginning. They also have the same setting.
Even for 11eyes in it there's some pretty direct references to other previous works from the company, though I haven't read those. I liked 11eyes and I guess I recommend you read it first but I wouldn't want you to go in with the mindset that you do or die absolutely have to read it first or else, or likewise reading it just for the sake of it. I guess I could say there's no need to rush to read the new work just as much as there's no need to fret over stuff you might miss in it from the previous ones, but someone more well versed in their works might have a different opinion.

>>16310285
I'm reading DI in haste now, before the EOP release and anime.

>>16310258
Are the BiMan games worth playing?

>>16310516
Let me answer that question for you

>>16310516
Are you into femdom and lewd over the top tsunderes? If yes, then yes.

>>16310258
why was the ending of this game so out there

>>16310535
Well, yes. Both of those. But I heard there's a good amount of "plot" in those and if that's boring to read...

>>16310556
Nah, plot doesn't get in the way. You might not like endings tho, but its supposed to be horror story that writer (real protagonist) sees in Renge's kaleidoscope.

Is Mihaya the craziest character in any VN ever?

>>16310633
Not quite

>>16310406
I guess I'll do that too. There isn't much time left until my EOP friends jump in.

>>16311128
Being friends with EOPs? What's wrong with you? I would never befriend someone who doesn't know Japanese.

>>16311128
Isn't the whole point to feel superior over others for reading stuff they can't? Everyone will be able to read it soon, it won't make a difference whether you read it in Jap or not, it won't make you any different.

So what's the best nukige to play on Christmas?

>>16311187

Christmas Trickstar. Okay, not much of a nukige, but short and fits the theme.

Do we have a discord or what? I want to discuss stuffs with everyone :3

Is there a vn where many girls are trying to get MC's dick but the main heroin tries to protect his virginity?

>>16310633
What game?

>>16311736

If every game had online activation like PlayDRM but you could easily purchase them, would you be okay with this?

>>16311813
Only if they all had demos and no region locking, but it's a pipe dream and not worth talking about because it will never happen in our lifetimes. The real answer for DRM for companies that care is making console only visual novels like Utawarerumono's squeals.

>>16311813
ONLY if the PlayDRM was removed in a patch 6~ months after release, guaranteed.
Reason being, if their servers go down then that means the game simply cannot be played without piracy. I will not support DRM that makes it impossible to play a game without relying on a server that's not guaranteed to survive in to the future or on pirates - if I'm relying on pirates for a game to be playable, then I will just pirate it in the first place or not play it at all.

>>16311813
Not while most games are so overpriced.

>>16311836
Only overpriced because of the culture of piracy around PC games/Eroge, if you look at console visual novels they are fairly priced.

>>16311842
Do you have even a single fact to back this up? Hard data regarding sales and piracy, proof that without piracy sales would improve and prices would lower. If you don't, recognize your OPINION as biased and not grounded in reality.

>>16311842
Console games are just worth that much less because they have no porn.

>>16311813
Console VNs aren't that much cheaper, and they don't have porn. It's en even worse deal.

>>16311850
Makes the noggin work

>>16311860
Best selling visual novels in 2015 and 2016 were both console exclusives.

>>16311871
That was for: >>16311842
Sorry

Am I the only one who cares about this?

>>16311892
looks cute is a rip out yet?

>>16311872
That the two markets have different pricing (which you have not proven, by the way, just linked one game) does NOT mean that the pricing is different due to piracy. That is entirely your bias with no evidence - the fact you linked that image instead of the hard data I asked for is pretty telling that you're just speaking out of your ass.

>>16311872
That PC version is only so expensive because it's some random seller and only one in stock.

Some visual novels sell more on consoles because consoles have much higher overall userbase, but vast majority ends up selling way less than on PC.

You're drawing wrong conclusions from incomplete data. Back to >>>/vg/.

>>16311895
No, it's sadly not uploaded yet. Wanted a nice comfy RPG to play for Christmas.

>>16311872
>>16311897
Not to mention, it is fairly easy to pirate on the vita now, so linking a vita game just makes your case look worse.

>>16311900
Leyline Trilogy was 17500 yen on release. It's 7000 yen on the vita.

>>16311895
It is.

>>16311909
http://unisonshift.amuse-c.jp/products/project26/top_ltb.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20141022052138/http://unisonshift.amuse-c.jp/products/project26/top_ltb.html
>11,800 yen
Really makes you think

>>16311906
If you are going to pirate, why would you pirate the all ages version?

>>16311923
If you're going to buy a game, why wouldn't you pirate it?

>>16311923
Because the all-ages version is usually the definitive version, with extra content and routes added.

>>16311931
This is true. I buy all ages just for the extra content and extra routes then pirate the 18+ version for the porn, have my fap, and uninstall.

>>16311931
It can't be the definitive version with that much content cut. Definitive doesn't means, your preferred version.

>>16311936
Real talk, 95% of the time the H-scenes in plot-based games don't add anything. You can tell most writers give up at that point and revert to the most common cliches that completely go against character's personalities. You can just look up the 10 or so HCGs that were cut, fap, and be done with it.

>>16311936
Porn scenes are usually pretty unimportant to the story in most vns. Why would you buy the porn version when you can just pirate it? Buying the console version with extra content then pirating the 18+ version for porn content is the best way to experience a vn. Also most console version have more or better voice acting because some VA refuse to work with 18+ materials, as well as more/better visual features and user interfaces. Toheart2 is a perfect example.

>>16311842
Even if no one pirates it, eroge would be still expensive. One of the eroge scenario writer mentioned about the price here.

>https://kakuyomu.jp/works/1177354054881024505/episodes/1177354054881035514
>　エロゲは１本あたり約９０００円と非常に高額であるが、メーカーに入るのはだいたいその半分以下で、ほとんどは流通が持っていく。わかりやすく半分とすると、１本あたり４５００円が利益となるわけだ。
>　そして約８０００本売れたとすると、約３０００万円から４０００万円の収益となる。そこからスタッフの人件費やら諸々の経費などの開発費を差っ引く必要があるから、実際の儲けはさらに少ない。

>https://kakuyomu.jp/works/1177354054881024505/episodes/1177354054881587903
>　もしかしたらシナリオが増えればコストも増大するという部分にピンと来ていない人もいるかもしれないが、シナリオが増える＝セリフが増える＝声優に払うギャラが増えるということであり、開発費のかなりの割合を声優へのギャラが占めるといえば、シナリオ量がコスト増大にいかに影響を与えるかをわかってもらえるだろう。
>　特に質を重視するために著名な声優に依頼を出すと、１人でン百万とかコストが増大する。大御所を２人、３人と起用すれば……。かの大作『真剣で私に恋しなさい！』が声優へのギャラだけで億単位かかったという逸話も納得できるだろう。

>>16311948
I'm playing Dies irae Amantes Amentes and I honestly regret it. Putting aside the censored plot CGs with gore and other stuff either erased or crudely covered in black, the lack of porn actually makes the story disjointed... for example, in Kasumi's route, the fact she had sex with MC is joked about and referenced despite there being no indication in-game that they had had sex (they kissed and that was that). This was very off putting. Additionally, although I can't say for sure because I haven't read the 18+ version, but there was VERY little romance with Kasumi, to the point the romance between them was hard to recognize, I imagine the H-scenes actually helped strengthen the romance between them. As it stands, with the 18+ cut, their relationship seems weak and the references to the sex which was never said to happen were offputting. I'm halfway through Kei's route and I still don't know if they had sex after the choice that went onto her route, it was hinted at but I can't say for sure, and that kind of guesswork is a negative thing in my opinion. The porn wasn't necessary, absolutely not, but cutting it has made even the most story of storyges worse for reasons completely unrelated to fapping.
>>16311950
Again, definitive doesn't mean your preferred version. Definitive requires it to have ALL the good aspects. It can't be the definitive version if you have to pirate another version to accompany it.

>>16311958
I actually agree, lowering the price of a vns wont necessarily lead to more sales and could just lower the profit magins and there is the issue of lowering the perceived value of your vn, it's the same reason companies like Ubisoft won't lower the price of their games even though they would still make billions.

When a game goes to console there already exists a predetermined market market price, they can't sell the vn for more than a AAA game.

>>16311964
None of that is relevant or makes it "worse".

>>16311964
>Again, definitive doesn't mean your preferred version. Definitive requires it to have ALL the good aspects. It can't be the definitive version if you have to pirate another version to accompany it.

Did I use the word definitive? I don't use /v/ memes, I just said it was the best way to experience a vn.

>>16311964
>to the point the romance between them was hard to recognize, I imagine the H-scenes actually helped strengthen the romance between them
Nope.

>>16311972
I disagree.
>>16311973
You replied to my post that was only talking about "definitive version" so yeah. Contextually, your entire post is an argument for all-ages being the definitive version, because you replied to my post that only said they weren't.

>>16311974
Redditors like you are the worst.

>>16311964
tl;dr: I play games to masturbate and am gonna decorate it with words so it looks like I'm not

>>16311983
I don't get why people like him don't just watch porn.

>>16311964
You can't make up for the lack of romance with H-scenes. It doesn't work like that. If anything that would make the H-scene off-putting because there was nothing to lead up to it, it just happened out of nowhere.
Then again I haven't played Dies Irae yet so I can't say for sure, but that's what it sounds like. The references to the sex are a problem though, there should've been a fade to black to imply they've had sex, or the references should've been cut out completely.

>>16311964
>, I imagine the H-scenes actually helped strengthen the romance between them

>sex scenes can help bad writing.

It may just be me, but I don't think this sounds like a very good idea.

>>16311988
>>16311995
I wouldn't say "make up for" the lack of romance, just strengthened the feel. It's not trying to be a moege, of course, so I'm not expecting or asking for it to have a bunch of SOL romance scenes. Rather, as it stands, it felt as if they allotted 20 bits for romance, 15 of them were for sex, 5 for the buildup and kiss, and when they cut out the 15 sex, they didn't add 15 of something else to make up for it, so where the romantic development should have been, was just mainly a hole. So the feel wasn't there.

Kei's route, as a side note, has the same problem with referencing sex that was cut, but there's a lot more bits devoted to romantic buildup such that it definitely had romantic payoff whereas Kasumi's didn't. So I really just think it was a balance problem. They balanced too much on sex for Kasumi so when it was cut her route actually suffered, instead of just shrugging it off because plot matters more.

>>16312001
Yeah. I posted about it after reading the trial, but some characters just act stupid.

It becomes especially obvious after the MC actually gets almost eaten by a monster, but then next night ends up going outside again.

>>16311143
That's the most blatant lie I've seen today.

>>16312010
Well that's not good. It seems in horror media someone always has to do something stupid.

>>16312001
That's why i don't read Kure games.

>>16311154
I don't really care about being superior desu. It's just that everything I'm interested in loses its charm when EOPs jump in with their cancerous discussions.

>>16312027
Also wtf with 4chan's censhorship? Every time I type "to+be+honest" it becomes "desu".

>>16312034
People on /v/ were using tb honest as an ironic meme so much they needed to filter it.

>>16312040
Good to know. I had no idea since I never go to /v/.

So apparently Ryuukishi Bloody Saga is really sequel of Ryakudatsusha no Inen, seems like a gore / rape focused nukige, as someone in the older threads mentioned.

I thought I'd give it a try but really cant bother after reading this shit, I'm not sure what the fuck is akabesoft doing anymore. I mean why the hell would you decrease your sales by forcing people to buy / read your gore & rape focused stuff first. I'd understand if Ryukishi was a gore - rape focused game as well, but apparently this time they have made a linear harem without any rape at all. So basically they are saying that you have to read two completely opposite things, first you gotta read 5-10 hours long of gore and rape, then you'll get a full priced harem ending game.

Really what the fuck.

>>16312263
Well really, as far as I can tell, is the main thing is just that the MC is the same person. It's not a story sequel. The snuff nukige is like his backstory, and you can read Ryuukishi without knowing it.

>>16312263
Who cares, both games are bad so you should read neither even if they weren't connected.

>>16312268
Well I didnt read / probably wont read any of them but this seems really idiotic.
>>16312275
Yeah I'll do that, I just cant understand the logic of it. I mean did they seriously thought that people would buy those two as a set and would get more profit or something?

>>16312295
I don't believe they were marketed as sequels - or even confirmed to be sequels pre-release - so it's probably a purely artistic thing. Yeah, that may be a tough pill to swallow, but that's what I think.

>>16312263
That is quite strange. Also if it's the same protagonist it's pretty messed up. A MC who engages in guro deserves a harem even less than hetare MC so it makes it even worse.

Do Amakano 2's girls also jump on the protagonist's dick from the get-go like in the first game?

Just finished silverio vendetta. Just in time for the sequel supposed to release soon.

I only read bind of blood before this by the same team, and found it a bit disappointing, but EGS was mildly positive about silverio so figured I'd give it a try anyway.

The fight scenes in the final two chapters, particularly the ones not involving Chitose or Zephyr felt a bit on the long side, but all-in-all I enjoyed this title. Judging from the cover, it looks like the sequel will focus on a different cast.

Looks like verse of orpheus, the PSP version, has some side stories that aren't available on PC. Bit unfortunate, but meh.

>>16312517
This time the mc is too almighty, he understand and fix every girls' problems in a couple of minutes, let it be at common route or their own routes.

>>16312683
Both Kanade and Yuzuka did it slowly enough, it felt like progress.

>>16312683
That doesn't sound too great. Is it worth reading?

>>16312689
Well it still felt really almighty to me, like how he understood their problems from very little things and how he fixed those like they were nothing etc. But I'm not saying its a bad thing, overall I really enjoyed the game. Having a crippled heroine makes it a must read in my mind anyway, there should be more of those.

I forgot how amazing Watanabe's sex scenes are. He really makes you feel like his characters are having the most intensely pleasurable experience imaginable. And the mix of light-hearted humour and serious content is so well balanced.
Pic unrelated

How exactly do dummy cuts work? How do uploaders know they're removing needless files and not files essential to the game?

>>16313209

It's usually trailers, trials and patches (for other games) that get cut, as far as I know. Some devs fill empty space with that stuff because why not. Especially patches are nice as such fans get those physical along the line for the older games and don't necessarily need the net for it.

>>16313209
sometimes devs put in junk data on purpose to mess with pirates, both making it harder to find the data they need to crack something and taking up space so pirates have more data they need to waste downloading (think of downloading a 700mb game that compresses well vs a 4gb file that doesn't)

at the very least, i'm pretty sure currencies of the world have no place being in the exe of an NTR game

>>16313339
I don't think dongs are out place in an NTR game's .exe but that's just me.

>>16312336
>A MC who engages in guro
It's not the MC who "engaged in guro" in the original, it was the boss of the bandits he worked for though he did kill his childhood fiancee/lover cause she was raped so hard her mind broke

>>16312698
Amakano has fantastic visuals and pornography, and is really cozy. But, there's nothing really to the story except fairly generic "pure love" romance. I'd say it's only worth reading if you like that kind of simplistic, no-real-drama romance.

>残念な姉との幸福論 still not uploaded

Finished Kiss's route.

Consider the double slit experiment. Light takes time to travel, so there must be a delay between the electron passing through the double slit and the observer observing it, right? Imagine you place the experiment sufficiently far away that the person can choose to observe or not observe the experiment after the electron passes through the double slit, then that choice decides whether the electron behaves as a wave or a particle. Then you're changing the past, right? Since you're influencing an event that happened before you made the choice.

This might seem trivial, but it makes sending information back in time possible. Set up a bunch of double slit experiments, then future you can choose which ones to observe, sending a message in binary to past you when you check to see which particles formed wave patterns.

I can see why this wouldn't be possible in practice due to the limitations of working with light-speed distances and the difficulty of controlling observing, but anyone know why this isn't theoretically possible? Because it seems to me to be clear proof that sending information back in time is possible.

>>16314817
I'm not playing Akikuru so I am not sure in what context the double slit experiment is brought up, but I assume you are talking about putting a device at the slits to determine which one the light passes through. The answer is that the presence of the device constitutes a 'measurement', quantum mechanically speaking, so whether you look at the result or not the light will behave like a particle. If you don't put the device at the slits, the presence of the screen is also a 'measurement' (of the light's position) so once it reaches the screen it stops behaving like a wave. This is why the intensity of the interference fringes depends only on the number of photons reaching the screen.

>>16314865
So the device observing the slits has to actually interfere with the light in some way, in order to detect which slit it passes through, in the same way the screen obviously interferes with the light? Doesn't that mean the "observer effect" is really just the same as classical physics' observer effect, where the act of observing is physically interfering with the object? How is this interesting?

And if it's not interfering with the light, then is there some sort of delay between the act of measuring and the light passing through the slits?

>>16314910
Yes, measurements are just interactions with measuring devices. Observations/measurements disturb the system (this is what collapse of the wavefunction refers to, the system picks out a state to be in).

The interesting part is this, which is the main takeaway from quantum mechanics: quantum systems are not in definite states until a measurement is made. This is completely different from the classical view. This is actually one of the great triumphs of quantum theory since it answers a philosophical question (what is happening before a measurement?) with physical experimentation. (This result is referred to as Bell's theorem, and it requires some additional assumptions but that is the broad outline).

I'm not sure what you are getting at with the second question, but here is something else that might be relevant. Quantum mechanics is actually nonlocal. This means that things can happen instantaneously. The experiment in the EPR paradox is an example, as is the collapse of the wavefunction. Basically when you take a measurement, the system instantly falls into a definite state. But note that this is not inconsistent with relativity theory, since you can't actually send information faster than light.

>>16312263
I can't be the only one who wants to pick up both games because of this.

>>16315579
You are not. I strongly considered it but then I looked up a CG set of Ryakudatsusha no Inen, the prequel... it really doesn't look like something I'd enjoy. I think I'll read Bloody Saga and if it's good enough I'll read the prequel

http://gamestalk.net/post-72572/

>>16314565
It hurts

I just want some いちゃいちゃ with some cute ダメ姉.

>>16312656
Zephyr is such a piece of shit that I don't know how you managed to read it all.

But well, Trinity is looking decent, even if the whole "Heroes are inhuman, a 普通 life is all you need. 凡人万歳!" angle which made me a little nauseous is still going strong.

Impressions on Akikuru so far?

>>16316367
Hadler gave his impressions on twitter

>>16316369
>Watabane

>>16316369
He reads fast.
I haven't seen the final ending of the game yet so I can't comment there, but he's definitely right about it being a romcom at heart. It almost feels like a reverse of the narrative structure of Harukuru, where that opened with a light-hearted moege with hints of a deeper story and a genre switch to a serious plot, Akikuru opens with a well-developed story, setting and plot with a mix of lewd jokes and fun to lighten the mood every now and again, and then gradually increases the density until it's basically your typical moege where they insert a fantasy gimmick to make it seem unique, but obviously much better written. This is not a criticism, I'm enjoying it immensely.
I still have high hopes for a more conclusive and powerful ending then what Hadler described though, there's definitely the build-up in place for it.

>>16316406
>but obviously much better written
Don't really agree with this, the joke-to-anything else density is extremely off. It being 3MB is really not that surprising anymore with this amount of padding. Unless Saori and Epilogue are mind blowingly amazing this is definitely the worst Kuru imo.

>>16316416
You really don't think it's better written than the typical fantasy gimmick moege? Those tend to be terrible

wtf is dulcis

>>16316774
Spoilers

What's the best Yuzusoft game?

Let me get this out of the way:
>They're all shit.

>>16316871
They're all shit.

>>16316871
Tenshin Ranman

>>16316871
I liked サノバウィッチ the most, but I haven't really tried their stuff from before noble works.

>>16316871
Tenshin Ranman

Is anyone at all excited for Minori's new game Trinoline? How was Tsuminohi received here?

>>16317023
風香 is sex

So while most do the kuru here, I'll try out this. I'd assume it's along the lines of the "Seiiki" series. Same author too. For Seiiki I didn't really care about the sister nor anyone else really though.
Here there are two girls from the start. Though there's also a sister without a route (pic related), so I wouldn't be surprised if there are future titles too.. which I probably wouldn't care about either. I dunno, the charm of a short "few heroines" mid-price titles kinda gets lost if you add more and more games which essentially function the same as routes in normal full price games. Maybe that's just me.

>>16317199
If you aren't doing kuru at least do Sankaime or Meguru Sekai and post some info on those. Both seem somewhat promising at least.

>>16317224
I finished Yurino's route in sankaime yesterday. It wasn't very good, but I still ended up enjoying it for whatever reason. Miaski's seems much better so far though.

akikuru is even more disappointing than senmomo.

>>16317224

Maybe, this is a short title, so it's not lasting much anyway. (and I'm playing it precisely because of that) The latter one I want to try at some point, though dunno when. Currently playing another rpg, so I dunno yet.

>>16317240

Can you tell me if the Himeka girl sounds like your typical Kawashima Rino? She really doesn't look to me like that would fit.

>>16317291
Her voice doesn't fit the design that well, but I got used to it fairly quickly if that's what you were asking. Aside from that, she's the sort of character I would have expected her to voice in a non-liarsoft game.

>>16317318

It's hard to go with just samples here, but to me it looked like someone just got her on board because she's popular, regardless of if it fits or not. Especially recently with how fucking much Kawashima voices, it gets painfully obvious what kind of character she usually does with that voice, though she CAN do different stuff. (usually under a different alias though?) So the sample rather clashed with what character the girl seemed to be. Figured maybe she switches it up or.. something.

Well, miscasts do happen. The newest Asaproject had that as well, as far as I recall. So it wouldn't be the only one fucking that up if that's true. Again, can't really judge this myself just from the sample though.

>>16314565
>>16315691
It just got uploaded: http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/torrents-47/5-%5B161222%5D-%5Bりびどーそふと%5D-残念な姉との幸福論（ラブコメディー）-original-soundtrack-%5Bh-game%5D-568420/

I'm downloading it as well. Now I just need the AXL's new game, with the hope that they actually did a good job with this, just like their older titles.

>>16317379
>Well, miscasts do happen. The newest Asaproject had that as well,
It was hugest miscast I have ever seen though. Well I didnt encounter with them that much at the first place, but seriously thanks to it I couldnt stand at any of Maho's scenes and couldnt take any of her line seriously. Its not VA's fault tho, she did an awesome job as Eurasia at noraneko.

Actually when I think about it, it was more like "misart" than miscast, VA did a good job as a tomboyish heroine but art didnt fit to the voice at all.

>>16315741
I actually liked Zephyr, to be honest. Felt like he had actual personality, and sometimes he surprised me. Couldn't really sympathize with him at all times, but that doesn't diminish him as a character.

>>16317407
>It just got uploaded

Finally.

>>16317430

I'd assume most character designs (both character and visuals) are done before the voice-actors are hired.

Voice-acting is quite a thing anyway. You really hear it if they try or if they just do it in whatever way. Sadly not a lot of devs really do put a lot of work into it. It's a bit more than just hiring "big names". Or.. I'm just crazy.

>>16317503
Yeah I agree, its also one of the reasons why I really like Baseson, even though they have more than 50 heroines in all of their series, they choose their VA very carefully. Most of them happens to be very famous while some of them are just new faces, but all of their voices fit perfectly. Choosing right voices for all those characters must be as hard as writing the game itself imo.

>>16317523

I'd go even further and say that the same voice actor can totally shine in a game and be "average" in another. I do have the feeling a lot of Yuzusoft voice-acting is just ahead of what a lot of other moege devs offer. For example both Nene and and Meguru got a LOT of character thanks to their voice actresses in Sanoba Witch, heavily helping defining their character. Those same voice actors don't even achieve remotely the same in many other moege. Voice-directing. In part at least.

Sono Hanbira is also a series with a lot of really high quality stuff. New Generation has a few really great performances around. (i.e. I really liked Tanaka Lili there) Even though the actors don't stand out much outside of it. But as far as I know, the dev works together with the actresses a lot more than it's normal. At least for the older cast there's like radio programs and shit and obviously the characters are also kinda built over years in the end.

Guys, guys. I need these two really badly. Please, it's winter holidays after all. https://vndb.org/v11990 https://vndb.org/v18814

>>16317590
I will never understand why people in this thread play kusoge and shitty looking new releases when they haven't even cleared all the great old titles.

How many people here have actually read Kagerou Touryuuki, Mikan or Forest? Fucking disgusting.

>>16317602
Tanoshimians are not welcome.

>>16317602
>Mareni
>Shumon
>Meteor

Fucking disgusting.

>>16317602
I read Mikan because I really liked Asairo. Still want those two, tho.

>>16317602
I didn't know eroge was serious business. Do I also have to submit my 20-page paper discussing the importance of all the themes explored in those three games by next week?

>>16317590
I think sonosono was already uploaded somewhere. If that's dead, I guess I can do it.

>>16317641
Fucking please.

Don't you just hate when this happens?

>>16317656
No, I would love being kidnapped by a crazy.

>>16317590
I was waiting for the English Seireki 2236 nen release but it seems that it will take forever. So I would like to ask for it too

>>16317656
What game?

>>16317715
Look at the file name.

sonosono: https://mega.nz/#!zgxQhD4L!8xLSk1uXa0mwuqPS-UXY1ZDqa_jOkHTwRL7jfwvYIlM

So is Akikuru better than ISLAND?

>>16317742
Hell no.

>>16317742
Island is better imo, they are both not that great but Island has a better balance of hurmor, drama and plot

Akikuru is the worse kuru game

>>16317590
I want this http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ146618.html

>>16317742
Yeah but not by a huge margin

>>16317730

Thank you. Not the original guy but it looks interesting.

>>16317742
no, akikuru is just moege

>>16317742
Watanabe's games are fun but let's not kid ourselves. His games are nothing more than junk food.

>>16317861
So is ISLAND and pretty much every other visual novel in existence that isn't written by Mareni/Romeo/Jackson.

>>16317871
Let's not forget Scaji.

>>16317871
I must agree that Rewrite and Kouya were really amazing masterpieces. Never any other writer was capable of touching me so deeply.

Anyone here read the original famously shitty version of Dies Irae?

I've now fnished Kasumi's route in Acta Est Fabula and I'm pretty interested how the original version differs. If it's only writing and overall quality or even plot developments and characterizations etc.

>>16317861
>Watanabe's games are fun
do you have brain damage

>>16317730
Perhaps the patch(ed files?) here provided graciously by Hadler-sama will prove useful.
https://vndb.org/t3656#9

>>16317742
Yes. The humor is better and the game doesn't feel like it's intended for the anime crowd.

>>16318022
>doesn't feel like it's intended for the anime crowd.
But it fully does, it's just low brow jokes.

>>16318043
But it has porn, and as such is intended for mature people such as myself.

>>16318043
Are you going to tell me Island has intellectual high brow humor?

>>16317742
NEVER ISLAND is probably the best thing that has happened this year. The rest of ISLAND was meh, though.

>>16318103
At least island has a story.

>>16317577
>Those same voice actors don't even achieve remotely the same in many other moege.
Haruka Sora has always sounded on point for me. I liked her Meguru but she was even better in Daito and Magicha

Talking about Never Island, did Himawari also have class struggle?

>>16318118

I was more thinking along the lines of Fuyuka in the Kanojo no Seiiki. Although truth be told, Magcha's Fuuka was also a level below if you ask me. Don't remember any of the game's voice-acting to be anything special, and I played it not too long ago.

I mean it's not like it's bad, it's just that it's.. "normal". Like, honestly, a whole lot of voice-acting out there obviously is. The best I can say it is that the characters are completely made by the voice-actress, and seems replaceable. It's like they just come together really well. Most of the time I don't have that feeling, even for some characters I really really like. (i.e. Meguru isn't even one of my favorite characters or something like that..)
Well, who knows what this really is. In the end it's a feeling.

>>16317602
I usually have two games up at once, a quality title like those you mention and a casual title that's just a (hopefully) fun romp.

>>16309066
I do nothing but sneeze when I get a cold.

>>16309066
I sneeze like a motherfucker the day before I get the full blown symptoms.

>>16316871
ExE has some charm as a by the numbers stereotypical chuunige if you're into that sort of thing.
Otherwise I'd probably say Noble Works.

Can I start life over with a tsundere imouto ... please?

I can't take this longing in my heart much longer.

https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=16L9SZxKWBw
Well shit, time to download. I was too busy fixing my PC that I forgot about this.

>>16317602
Forest is too hard for most of us to read.

Is ITH hard to set up?

If I download it and translation aggregator, how do I get them to work together?

>>16319414
Wrong thread, peasant.

I have a good feeling about this.

It's rare to play a big sister incest eroge that isn't a nukige (or at least I don't think this one is).

>>16319444
I think it's a moege cum nukige

>>16319470
I see. Well, it's a nice change of pace from the usual Appetite and similar stuff I usually have to subsist on all the same. It's tough being an ane-fag in an imouto world.

>>16319444
It`s definitely a moege. They are marketing it as 純愛, and there aren't harem routes or anything like that. It's pure love with the 姉 of your choice.

>>16319630
Yeah, that was the impression I got from their site as well. Suzune already looks like an obvious winner from my point of view, but we'll see if Nene can't win me over.

>>16318899
>>16318910

Not cold as in 風邪 but cold as in 寒い. I understand that people may sneeze when they [get a cold], but I am wondering about when people [get cold], as in chilly, freezing. In the visual novel I was reading, a girl fell in a puddle, then since she became cold, she started sneezing. I have seen this in many anime and stuff before, so that is what I was wondering.

Thank you for replying to my post though. A very merry Christmas season to you both.

>>16318003
Why do some eroge censor dirty words? I never understood that.

I really love the little sprite animations Akikuru has though, they're the best. More games should put work into this kind of thing.

>>16319980
The WSP panic in the shelter was pretty damn laggy

Please don't suck

>>16320295
Kamidori formula is almost impossible to fuck up. If this one is failure too, Eushully is fucking dead.

>>16320323
>Kamidori formula is almost impossible to fuck up.

Because it's fucked up already? I mean they always fuck something up, and Kamidori wasn't an exception, just people still liked the grind or something.
The alchemy part itself was terrible, if you ever played something by Gust it's pretty obvious. Grind material for a new weapon which gives +1 attack, while you get the same with a lucky level-up? Worth is something different. If you do make an alchemy based system, the equipment should MAKE your character, not the fucking level and base-stats. And they had to mix it with Fire Emblem, where the whole idea is "light rpg mechanics that don't get into the way of the strategy element"? What the fuck were they thinking. Just take a look at Alice-Softs Blade Briders to see how to clone Fire Emblem well and add good additional features. (although it starts too easy and ends shitty, unfortunately)

Oh well, the way dungeons worked was pretty fun at least I feel. If they'd recycle that and actually add a working system that's not having some major flaw on top of it, it could be really good. I kinda doubt it though.

>>16320430
I played almost every Gust game, but I like Kamidori more. Alchemy part of Ateliers or Ar Tonelico never stuck me much.

>>16320430
Also, did you really play Kamidori? Equipment there is OP, its proper combination of equipment is what makes you be able to clear NG+ content. It was nerfed in later games, but Kamidori got it exactly right.

>>16320430
i wasted countless hours on kamidori, never wanted to go back and replay a gust game. they did just give up on alchemy halfway through the game but that doesn't take away from how good it was as a whole

>>16320295
I will obey my angel fetish and play this.

Anyone else have a problem playing chuunige after Dies irae? They're just so much worse, it's kind of embarrassing to read. At least with moege they aren't trying to be cool so they can't fail.

>>16320508
No.

>>16320473
>angel fetish

>>16320295
Doubt Eushully would ruin their meister series but we'll see.
Honestly after 2013 they should've just focused on more 戦記 titles and made a more polished Madou.

After all somehow they managed to make a protagonist that acted like a general more or less, with actual personality/conflicts and where your choices also had consequences. Too bad they never followed up on that.

>>16320549
Rerards hated Madokaku and spewed lots of shit on it, so they decided that it was total failure and dropped good parts instead dropping bad parts. Its like "people didn't like scenario of Rhapsody? Lets make less text for Sankai"

>>16320558
I can't fathom what they were thinking when they made Sankai. It didn't have anything what really carried Madou. Guess they wanted to see how people would react or something but come on.

>>16320558
Was it really hated that much?

kek

Thoughts on Majo Koi Nikki?

>>16320738
I like the art style so I had a few good faps, but I dropped it because the characters were bad and the mystery didn't manage to interest me at all.

I always see other people praise it so I would say give it a try.

>>16320508
Dies with its one-sided and astral shit battles left a really bitter taste in my mouth. If it's the best you can pull off then fuck the whole genre.

>>16320508
i like propeller stuff more than dies.

Is YUNO really as amazing as people make it sound? I mean it looks good art wise.

I'm relatively casual person (MLA, Baldr Series, Muramasa, Higurashi, etc...). Does the story still hold up sans nostalgia goggles? It's not an VN, but a while ago I gave the Slayers LN a try and...the writing for stuff back then seems bad. (Or is slayers just especially bad?)

>>16321117
It's better than MLA and Higurashi, but a little overrated. Worth trying. Maybe wait for the remake, it comes out in 2017.

>>16321117
>Does the story still hold up sans nostalgia goggles?
I don't think so. The epilogue was just... out there. The characters are pretty flat. I'd say it has good writing for a *video game*, but for a *novel* I've seen a lot better.

>>16319897
cuz Japan

What would be the most ideal or perfect VN for you?

>>16321634
http://lyricbox.jp/IMOZI/

>>16321634
Why?

>>16321639
I'm bored.

>>16321634
Dies irae is it.

>>16321634
Oretsuba

>>16321634
https://vndb.org/v870

Amenity's Life seems to be decently received, anyone try it?

>>16320445

10 hours. It was just mindless grind at that point, with alchemy being exactly what I said. Maybe after a hundred hours it's "better" in that regard, but that's not how it should be. I was a few chapters in and it was just horrible to me.

>>16320472

If you don't care about alchemy, the Gust Atelier games are obviously not your thing. Eushully half-assing that in weird ways doesn't change though. It's like Kami no Rhapsody having an overall pretty good S-Rpg system, except the magic system which is utter garbage where I can't understand how anyone could've possibly deemed that acceptable.
It's just unfortunate. To me, the fucked up alchemy, which felt like the "main-thing" of the game, fucked everything up in Kamidori. I could deal with Rhapsody's issue better.

>>16321847
Alchemy in Kamidori was perfect and took hundreds of hours of my life. You are being lunatic.

so this is the power of good writing...

>>16321951
Epic /v/ meme.

西暦2236年 with prequel

https://mega.nz/#F!5MJQ1BQI!k2kgMg-RPdW7DznLiYgdPA

I have some other never uploaded doujin games, if there's anything you're looking for I might have it

>>16321975
If you have Ritterorden on hand I'd be grateful if you uploaded it.

>>16321991
Uploading. Maybe I'll make a list of more interesting titles.

>>16321975
>>16322048
What are your favorites out of those un-uploaded games?

>>16322058
I doubt anyone who isn't Hadler played Ritterorden yet

>>16322089
What?

>>16322096
it has like 20 sales in dlsite last time I checked.
I'm interested but playing 2000+ yens on a doujin game is a bit too much

>>16322104
Well no one replied to you? If the game was never uploaded and he owns it then obviously bought it.

Since we are asking Santa for present, I am also interested in this game https://vndb.org/v16435

>>16319444
Just started but it's kinda funny how many bugs there are like the option menu mixing up the names for sliders and voice loudness being way quiet on random lines. Not unplayable though.

>>16322104
Thanks a lot for your comment!

>>>/t/748921

>>16322048
Do you have 蟲ノ目? That would be wonderful.

>>16322382
Took me 3 seconds to find it. Try harder.

>>16322421
Share it please.

>>16322468
Spoonfeeding, but it's Christmas. Remember to always check Warosu first
https://mega.nz/#!UsNQ2RLa!m3AIRo68j7-cRFNFYMspCyz2qBqCk3fy-KePs6m-Hoo

>>16321991
https://mega.nz/#!EEhT0YbK!P_e66OVGBSkKeDbPd7UATGfRmnWQOP4rNihBe3-OCIg

>>16322159
Sorry, don't have it

Here's a list but I have more dlsite stuff

https://vndb.org/v12717
https://vndb.org/v12718
https://vndb.org/v6332
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ067069.html
https://vndb.org/v11427
https://vndb.org/v3933
https://vndb.org/v12748
https://vndb.org/v11562
https://vndb.org/v3754
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ148363.html
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ107287.html
https://vndb.org/v13010
https://vndb.org/v13011
https://vndb.org/v11172
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ052946.html
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ071758.html
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ124395.html
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ062541.html
https://vndb.org/v10664
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ141708.html
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ143397.html
http://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/186000720001

>>16319444
>>16319470
>>16319483
>>16319630
Dont read it as a moege, or at least the Blonde's route. I didnt start the game yet but read some reviews/comments which were complaining very hard about it; apparently blonde's route has some very realistic stuff in it (like family torns apart etc), ending is pretty much a bad end. and seems like it leaves a very bad taste in mouth. Such a shame, at least for my tastes.

>>16322535
I was kind of curious about 少年オロカと不思議の森. Would you mind upping it?

>>16319444
>>16319470
>>16319483
>>16319630
Dont read it as a moege, or at least the Blonde's route. I didnt start the game yet but read some reviews/comments which were complaining very hard about it; apparently blonde's route has some very realistic stuff in it (like family torns apart because of them etc), ending is pretty much a bad end. and seems like it leaves a very bad taste in mouth. Such a shame, at least for my tastes.

>>16322535
Which one among these is the best in your opinion?

>>16322555
I remember seeing a glimpse of the blonde going crazy on a review blog. It's a shame to hear that her route leads to a bad end. Yandere + ane hits all my strike zones.

Get ready for this absolute happening.

http://www.studio-beast.com/10th-Anniv/index.html

>>16322535
幻想魔境奇譚 looks awesome.

>>16322555
I was going for Suzune anyway, but thanks. I'm honestly so starved for 姉ゲー that I don't mind drama or even bittersweet endings, but I guess I wouldn't be satisfied with an outright bad one.

>>16322592
Yeah, I guess this kind of stuff lead to that. Such a shame, I'd be okay with some nice bittersweet endings but cant really bother if it leaves such a bad taste.

>>16322535
>https://vndb.org/v11562
Holy shit you have the lost Watanabe game. Please upload!

>>16322553
>>16322598
I'll upload them, just not today

>>16322569
I'm still an eop, so I didn't read any, but I'd start with the ones on top of the list, those from green tea milk also look interesting

>>16322630
I'll probably end up playing both routes anyways, but yeah not a fan of straight up bad ends.

>>16322535
Got 灰か落葉か亡骸か by any chance?

>>16322535
窓辺の天使 looks like my cup of tea. Would be indebted if you please.

>>16322631
this one has been uploaded for a while

>>16322535
闇を奔る刃の煌き looks nice.

Finished playthrough 1 of the new VenusBlood game.

I always thought in the previous games that they needed a better way to find units, and for this game they finally added a whole bunch of searching/filtering/sorting options. But that feature is only available for units you already unlocked so I still ended up spending hours on the research screen looking for the perfect set of units anyway.

Other than that, the squad building gameplay was enjoyable as usual.

>>16322701
God how do you even deal with so many options, my head would explode

>>16322610
>>16322592
>>16322555
>>16322630
Very high spoilers about the ending:
寧々はそこで海に身を投げ死亡。その後一家は離散
主人公は数年後、逃避行中に寧々が出していた手紙を読みあの時こうこうしていればもしかしたら的な思いを馳せてfin
Holy shit, and the title is fucking "love comedy". Its another level of swindle I guess, probably we wont see any more games from this company.

>>16322643
I do

>>16322631
>>16322648
>>16322681
My connection is slow but I'll try to deliver everything requested in the coming days

>>16322710
Godspeed anon.

>>16322708
Okay, I've got to say, that's actually kind of funny.

>>16322730
純愛＝弟との関係を親が認めてくれないから放火して警察追われて投身自殺
I actually laughed at this post. Anyway they're criticising so hard that I'm pretty sure this company wont have an another game at all, or wont sell at all, maybe even the writer will share the same fate.

>>16322744
Guess I know what I'm doing for the next hour.

>>16322631
>>/jp/thread/S12257626#p12257632

>>16322681
not him, but I have it and another game from the same company
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-oXmtQ9lOI0eUp4WHdPbmE1c1E?usp=sharing

>>16322535

Fifteen Hounds, if you wouldn't mind. Looks neat.

>>16322813
Nice, thanks. Have you read these by the way?

>>16322835
nope

>>16322535
異形の恋うた
幻想魔境奇譚
灰か落葉か亡骸か
Thanks for advance!

>>16322813
Thanks for uploading those, saved me the trouble

Lmao the EOP guy will get roasted and get kicked out when he uploads all those stuff because he cant read the games he has uploaded, I'm looking forward for that ironic moment.

>>16322878
You should work on your English before making dumb posts.

>>16322882
Nah watching how he gets kicked out after uploading at least ten games for this thread is funnier than that.

>>16321975
Thank you, I'll still support the English release.

>>16321634
Oretsuba

>>16322596
Wasn't Chuusotsu a flop?

>>16322535
Santa, don't you have https://vndb.org/v19273 by any chance?

>>16323127
That's not even close to rare.

>>16323130
And where are i can get it?

>>16323144
The same place you were told an hour ago, in English class.

And Sailove Akeno done.

Simple, but effective? Something along those lines. It doesn't have any major plot in the route, or any drama to speak of. It's a simple romance with a bit of some dating and whatnot afterwards. (And sex, lot's of sex)
Also it's short, so it doesn't fuck around too long, but doesn't really feel too short... except if you look at the price, unfortunately. It feels a bit like a cation game, just with better use of supporting characters (a sister and the other heroine), and less dragged out and obviously no dating-sim stuff. But once the sex starts, it's coming pretty much back to back. Though the scenes aren't THAT long, you pretty much entered the last ~hour at that point.

I thought it was quite nice for a change, as they really didn't try to do any silly drama for the hell of it and just told a simple romance, although the story setup at the start can be taken as a bit weird. Probably worth a look if you liked something like Kanojo no Seiiki. (same author and all)

As a side-note. We recently talked a bit about music use in eroge here, and this title is actually one that uses silence quite a bit. Quite interesting.

>>16322744
>>16322708
I'm usually not interested in 姉s and more of a 妹派 but now I'm interested.

Finished Ayumi's route.

Anyone else think that maybe the VN would have been better if it was about the school rebellion? Imagine what a great story it would've been, a group of children born as an experiment, each possessing individual special powers, treated as guinea pigs for most of their life, finally rising up and declaring their independence and their freedom. Dealing with the trauma of their suffering and overcoming it, they unite together and bring in weapons, declaring war against the government and against human society. The little comedic scenes happening in the midst of an isolated warzone, the contrast between serious fighting and fun romance. And the slow, crippling despair as they realise they can't possibly win, watching their friends fall one by one and their hope fade, the force of human military overcoming their crude and untrained powers. It would've been so great.

>>16323304
Okay but what do you think of her route?

>still no working シンソウノイズ uploaded
Christmas is ruined.

>>16323334
It's saved from you not having to play a kusoge. Rejoice!

>>16323304
Damn use some spoilers

Finished Noah's route.

（パンパン）ノアさん可愛い。（パンパン）可愛い
（パンパン）ノアさん可愛い。（パンパン）可愛い
（パンパン）ノアさん可愛い。（パンパン）可愛い

>>16323375
Everything I talked about is explained very early on in the game, no spoilers.

>>16323309
I was slightly disappointed I think. The no-pantsu scene was hilarious of course, but the whole tower mystery was just "I wonder what that's about" into Satori appearing and explaining everything, not really any "mystery" about it. The way they had her overcome her trauma was nice but the trauma itself probably needed to be foreshadowed some more to have some proper impact, it felt a little too out of the blue. Ending was good though. In any case Kiss's route was definitely better.

Any of the Giga sameface shovelware worth reading?

>>16317318
I went ahead and finished Misaki's and Himeka's routes. They both surpassed by admittedly low expectations for the game, but there were still a couple things I didn't really like about them.

Misaki's route felt like it if anything is the game's true route and was supposed to build off of the points presented in Himeka's, but there was no real prior indication and both routes are available from the start. Doing Misaki's first kind of felt like it dampened the impact of of one of the events toward the end of Himeka's and ended up spoiling part of the twist with Himeka's past. I'm normally not a fan of enforcing route orders, but in this case, forcing the player to do Himeka before Misaki would have made a lot of sense.
Also, the further I got into the route, the more Kawashima's voice started bothering me again. Even ignoring the fact that it really didn't fit the character design at all, it sort of sounded like she was getting over a cold at the time of recording.

All in all, I liked these two routes a lot more than Yurino's. They weren't perfect, but they were better than I expected from a Windmill moege (especially Himeka's, which almost felt out of place in a game like this). I'm not really sure how much the last two will be able to add, but I think I might try to go through them at some point too

>>16323110
Why?

Does anyone have a torrent and/or a mega for 天空のシンフォニア? I can't find it anywhere.

>>16322891
I'm really gratefull I can read Ritterorden now (though I'm waiting a bit to see if it's lostboy)

This bug or whatever where text turns into 3 lines instead of 2 is kind of annoying. I hope this game is worth dealing with the mediocre VAs and slight bugs

>>16323734
The only GIGA games I played are those ~kiss games. Of course, yes.

>>16322159
Here is. But I couldn't download this shit, they have so annoying rules.
http://www.otomedream.com/thread-773362-1-1.html

>>16324651
Okay, played this for like two hours. I read above that there's some crazy shit in Nene's route but my goodness this is quite a boring a game, and I even started reading it just for fapping. It's not very funny, the characters are generic archetypes without much life at all, it's basically a bottom of the barrel romcom with no distinguishing traits except the downer ending. I won't really say it's not worth playing though, I get the feeling it's the kind of game some people actually enjoy, though I personally couldn't.

>>16324895
That's disappointing, I was looking forward to it.

>>16325212
Like I said, some people may enjoy it. For example, someone may actually find all the muscle jokes funny or the male friend's constant straightmaning funny and that'd go a long way. For me, I just was reading it for the sister romance and it was so belated and so much of the game boring when it did come that I had already fully lost interest.
On the bright side, it's not really a nukige at all, so there's that, for better or worse.

おい！おい！

Hows the new Zettai Junshu game?

I thought the ok to inbreed card in the last game was cute so I'm sad to see there won't be another incest route but all's forgiven if it's good.

Hello gentlemen of excellent and refined tastes. I recently bought Natural Another One from DMM and although the game starts up just fine all screens are black.

I can't even take a screenshot to show you. For some reason all screenshots taken while the game is up are blank.

Suggestions?

>>16326362
are you sure it works with your OS?

>>16326315

Are you seriously asking this?
It's (obviously) utter garbage if you want to play it for anything but the porn. In fact you are still better off just getting a full save as the overall shittyness will only make you dislike the characters. (I'd say it's even worse than something like Koikuma in that aspect but it's also way more direct nukige)
That said, the porn is also pretty much as expected. So if you liked that aspect of other games by the dev, go for it?

>>16326120
I stopped playing after the first route and when I saw that EXE is out finally got in the mood to finish it. Finished Mao's route today and I'm really looking forward to Yuri since she's been my favorite since I started the game.

where do you look when you can't find a game walkthrough? can't find anything about routes in the only wiki for 剣聖機 and i can't find any walkthroughs for some elle murakami games such as https://vndb.org/v5619 and https://vndb.org/v9729

i noticed foolmaker died but the site was properly archived. am i missing something or are there other places to look like chinese sites?

http://pastebin.com/CTLiUEWX

I uploaded all requested games that haven't been linked here already, just tell me if I missed something

>>16326704
Why do you need a walkthrough for games that are only 2 hours long?
>>16326708
Godspeed

>>16326708
OH MY HOLY GOD. Thank you, santa, for downloading this shit.
窓辺の天使 - no decription code.
>>16323127
And this question.

>>16326712
they can have lots of choices

>>16326708

Thanks, anon.

>>16326748
Correct link:
https://mega.nz/#!4FoFBa6a!wEr_kvTd-HntsbI5zo7_8Rj2xNfMEl8yF-Q0QJLZn10

>>16326759
THANKS!!

Why are ero light novels are not nearly as popular as ero visual novels?

>>16326409
That's what I'm thinking. I finished downloading Virtualbox so I'm going to try running it through XP

I was hoping for a different solution though.

>>16326458
Eh, I'll just skip it then.

>>16326765
Not enough visual stimuli

>>16326770
did you try all the compatibility options and make sure you're on jp locale/region? if you're also on win7 and have a link i could give it a shot but virtual machine should work fine

>>16326765

Probably because they have to compete directly with eromanga.

>>16322535
https://vndb.org/v17333
https://vndb.org/v19273
Do you have it?

>>16327253
SeaBed was already posted here in past threads, the second one I wish I had

>>16327253
SeaBed was already uploaded here, do your search. But I'm also interested in the first one.

And btw, does anyone have the side stories from EDEN－最終戦争少女伝説－? The game is insanely good and I want to extend this enjoyment as long as I can.

>>16327292
What's so good about it?

boy
i wonder whats gonna happen to this peaceful village that's been introduced in the first 10 minutes of the game

>>16327292
>EDEN－最終戦争少女伝説－
>release date for it on EGS is 2030
lmao what, because of this it doesn't display its score on the ranking list

>>16327295
The scope of the story is unusually large with a lot of clever twists you never saw coming. SubaHibi was the last game which had me wtf this much.

>>16327335
The writer is (very likely) dead

>>16327343
>>16327345
The game is incomplete right? How incomplete are we talking, is there at least some form of catharsis in the end?

>>16327303
That's pretty unusual appearance for protagonist. I hate AXL, but I'm now kinda curious. Please post about it more as you read.

>>16327348
Dunno yet, but I probably won't go to bed this night.

There is a cracked version of Shinsou Noise now, if anyone cares.

does anyone have a link for eve burst error pc? (original) i looked around but couldn't find anything other than already translated version or shitty remake.

>>16327349

I like the name cactus. Should've been an Alice Soft protag.

>>16327292
>nd btw, does anyone have the side stories from EDEN－最終戦争少女伝説－?

They should be on the official page.

>>16327335
2030 release is the EGS for "unknown", newfriend.

>>16327378

Thanks for letting me know. I was hyped because I loved the art (no flame pls) but the EGS reviews are worrisome. Has anyone here given it a go yet?

>>16327391
You mean the original PC98 version?

Then:
https://mega.nz/#F!jIgkXQDY!hE3FQNWl77DkzKErGdz35g!eYoVkRTR

>>16327431
It apparently goes from the detective deduction premise to full on fantasy shit and the writers aren't good enough to pull it off.

The new 永遠のアセリア Premium Special Edition is also out.

>>16327436
yes, thank you.

I know that you only saw that Shinsou is out because you lurk here right now, hadler.

>>16327285
>>16327292
I couldn't find it, guys.
>>16070974
The thread where it had been (probably) posted was deleted.

>>16327477
Lurk more.

>>16327391
>or shitty remake.
Is it that bad? It looks like an update unlike the actual remake it had mid-00s.

>>16327486
http://eve.el-dia.net/eve_a/eve_a.html

i actually have no idea, my preference is mostly due original art.

What's the most エロい エロゲ?

>>16327562
You.

>>16326765
Is there some sort of database for ero LN's like EGS/VNDB? Kinda interested in picking some up but I don't know where to start.

>>16327592
bookmeter.com

Many eroge writers write LNs too, so you can go with someone familiar.

>>16327562

That's a very hard thing to say. Personally I'd just recommend to go with something traditional by Alice-Soft. I feel they show what an eroge can be among the best out there. It's not for everyone, but I dunno. It just feels you are really playing an eroge and not just some silly porn with everything being an excuse to lead to it, or something where the porn is shoved in for no reason, or just a moege where at some point you get swarmed with ero for "quota" reasons. Maybe just me.

>that huge bug in Baldr Heart : You don't get FEI lvlups at the end of the 5th chapter of Nagi's route because the battles happened in the 5th chapter of Yuri's route before the branch to Nagi's route.

Can't believe they havent fixed it yet. Mah FEI points desu...

>>16327592
Oh I didn't notice the "ero" in front of LNs. EGS/vndb aren't solely for ero either, they're general sites. If you want ero you should probably just stick to nukige.

>>16327656
Well, EGS and VNDB have tags for ero content. Does Bookmeter have anything like that?

>>16327562
https://vndb.org/v2361

Does Jackson work on anything right now?

>>16324895
>except the downer ending
Details, please. It's not like I would ever read that.

>>16327936
then don't ask for details please

>>16327944
I'm sorry, forgive me "kudasai".

>>16327477
Nigga, just search "SeaBed" on Warosu, it's not rocket science. First page in search results.

>>16322535
Could you upload https://vndb.org/v12748 and https://vndb.org/v3933 anon? I've been curious about that circle for a while.

>>16328041
There is a new version of Endlessrain being released during this comiket

>>16328036
I've found it already, nigga.

>>16327651
Don't worry. In EXE you don't even have to level up b/c all skills are maxed by default.

>>16327562
Well there's a lot of ways to answer that question from 'what eroge has the most porn' to 'what eroge has the most fetishes' to 'what eroge has the best porn'. Just saying 'what is the most erotic eroge' is kind of hard to answer. I guess it depends on what your fetishes are.

Personally I would go with Machigurumi no Wana or Onegai Tasukete 2 If you want to play the girl getting raped. Large amounts of porn.

Classy Cranberry's or Lovely Cation if you want a story with your porn.

Honoo no Haramase series if you just want to drown yourself in pleasure till everyone's exhausted.

>>16328185
Thinking about it though I think the absolute lewdest thing you can possibly do is turn a boy into a girl then corrupt her until she just doesn't care anymore and let's herself get impregnated.

Go with Ai Mai Mist
https://vndb.org/v12131

>>16328231
Wait, does the other guy who's also genderbended have a route? That's pretty gay

>>16328270
It's unfortunate that I haven't played any good examples in the fetish. I've read the X-change series which are laughably stupid, the Futaba Channel series which are good but don't go far enough in their corruption (the MCs never give up their desire for sex with girls) and some stand alones like Futari wa My Angel, Seitenkan, and Ai Mai Mist. Ai Mai Mist was cute with 2 out of 5 decent stories, Futari wa My Angel had some decent content and was almost what I was hoping for, Seitenkan was a complete disaster.

I just wish there was better example but I haven't found it yet.

>>16327562
Hard to say, mostly because I never finish 9 out of 10 nukiges I start and I think its unfair to judge them w/out checking all scenes.
Out of those I 100%ed definitely first Demonion. I revisited some scenes there many, many times.

But if we expand question to non-VN eroge and non-ge japanese ero, eromanga usually has much higher "re-read" rate for me than VNs or eroge, and several rpgmaker rpgs have higher "re-read" value than VNs. VNs tend to try stuck some unneeded drama or plot even in nukiges, and discrepancies between my fantasies and actual events there ruin all the fun for me, while manga often gets things exactly right. On other hand manga is too short, many things I loved had only one 20-page chapter, and longer ones like Dorei-san went off-track in the middle.

Out of non-VN eroge: Dungeons ＆ Prisoners, its permanently unfinished due to author's skin rotting and festering, but I spent like more than 50 hours replaying trial. Also good stuff: Violated Heroine (esp. 勝手版, lots of gorgeous Serena scenes), 赤首の闘技場, DRAGON SLAVE, Arms Devicer, 聖騎士ルヴィリアス, Saki Quest, Rune's Pharmacy, 聖剣のセシリア, エリナの借金返済物語, 没落令嬢

>>16328302
Have you tried this one?
https://vndb.org/v1036
I haven't played it myself but it seems to be more serious than the ones you listed. Although MC seems like a girl even before the sex change. That's boring.

>>16328326
Couldn't hurt.

>>16327562
Personally my votes would go to Ai Shimai IV, Saishuu Chikan Densha 3, and Sansha Mendan in that order. I've revisited certain scenes in those games many times.

>>16327953
Family doesn't accept their incest, she commits arson due to being insane yandere, kills herself while being chased by the police, there's no true/good end that's the only end for her

Is Senmomo structured like Aiyoku? Came to the first choice and wondering if it's just small branches or something like Daitoshoukan.

>>16329579
>wondering if it's just small branches
Yes

>>16329581
Cool, thanks

>>16322701
How was it story wise compared to previous entries? They tend to be semi-enjoyable for the most part, but some are better than others.

>>16327770
>Does Jackson work on anything right now?
His LN maybe?

>>16329368
>No good end available
How awful.

>>16327378
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/torrents-47/5-%5B161222%5D-%5Bazurite%5D-%E3%82%B7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BD%E3%82%A6%E3%83%8E%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BA-%EF%BD%9E%E5%8F%97%E4%BF%A1%E6%8E%A2%E5%81%B5%E3%81%AE%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6%E7%B0%BF%EF%BD%9E-digital-artbook-%5Bh-game%5D-%5Bcrack%5D-566934/index2.html#post2592958

love the drama

>>16329867
Nothing like being self-righteous about making people pay for pirated products to make me laugh.

>>16329584
No, not really, August goes it badly in both Eustia and SenMomo.

Finished Yuzuki's route.

I could talk about 多様論 and the benefits of a diverse gene pool in aiding human evolution, versus the morality of imposing a new lifeform on the ecosystem and risking the survival of the currently dominant human being, but it really wouldn't be in the spirit of the route.

>>16330131
does the game actually turn interesting later on because it's just hours upon hours of shimoneta jokes...

>>16330150
Well I can't answer that without knowing what you find interesting. Sci-fi infodumps based on quantum theory? Paranormal mysteries about eerie beings and phenomenon? Sociopolitical uprising by an oppressed minority?

>>16330179
well anything that isn't non-stop comedy scenes back to back. does that stuff take a backseat eventually or is that gonna stay the Main thing is what i'm asking basically

>>16330179
All of those things, when done individually.

>>16330197
What do you mean?

>>16330213
I thought you were suggesting the game includes all of those elements in which case I have to assume the writing is overambitious and ends up mediocre in all aspects.

>>16330227
That's a very bold assumption. It's a game that's many dozens of hours long and covers multiple stories in the form of routes, if it only included 1 of those elements I would consider it extremely boring and repetitive.

>>16328041
https://mega.nz/#!oY4QRDZC!ZJKk1iy48zvQs09NPrGJUdi8cgxlPGPfo3ddo3t4T7Y
https://mega.nz/#!wA4UhIxI!GWSZbihfI9EBxU4ICiWFsyJlWsv81-QUOfIfV0ft38c

Their other two games were uploaded on Share a hell of a long time ago so the file has existed at some point, now it's impossible to download them off there

Does anyone else occasionally have a little bout of sadness over how formulaic, static, by-the-numbers and deadlocked eroge are as a medium? Not that I don't like a good moege every once in a while, but it'd be nice if someone actually tried to break the mold every so often.

>>16330669
Yeah, it's sad. But fat otaku are the ones bringing in the money so you have to target them.

>>16326708
Do you peraphs have >>16324396

too?

>>16330669
No because I love that shit.

>>16330677
I don't, but it's on clubbox

>>16330748
>it's in korean

How do I use it?

http://studio-beast.sakura.ne.jp/Suiside_Fence/index.html

>>16331107
I wouldn't mind being killed by such a cute girl.

>>16331107
I send him an email about the bad English. I hope he doesn't take it the wrong way. Also I didn't notice "marry" until now, whoopsies