/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I feel like emamouse has been improving lately, feels nice to have a contender for old school denpa. Also, does anyone know if Milirobo.beta are still active?

>>16174379
They will be at Comike, but maybe just with a Pripara doujinshi and no music. Last I talked to Moru, he said they would get more active online rather than releasing CDs. But that still hasn't happened.

https://mega.nz/#!fNhzUZzJ!rzolE0NNJuJzn7f0dJYyupJSqRYaYS5rm1XxX-8dpak

My collection of art/pictures by/of Toromi. Also includes her gravure pictures under the alias Sakurai Miyiko.

Please enjoy.

>>16175051
You are God.

>>16174379
emamouse for me is kind of hit or miss

Like somethings just make no sense to me, but some of the chiptune is excellent and other songs just hit it correctly.

>>16175051
Whoa, I didn't expect those gravure pics... how did you find about this? Some Japanese BBS?

>>16175051
This is probably nothing new to many, but I had not seen it before today (LOL@the cat).

https://youtu.be/4sFesCIXtL8

>>16174379
>emamouse has been improving lately

her drawings, too

>>16175051

>>16175051
https://a.pomf.cat/epwxlf.mp3

>>16175051
>Miyiko
'yi' doesn't exist in Japanese, you probably mean Miyoko. 桜井美代子

>>16178544
I don't know Japanese, so that's probably true. I might have named the folder wrong.

Does まめいちご mean melon strawberry?
I don't understand japanese but I'm super curious.

>>16181823
Bean-strawberry

Choco pirate?

>>16183327
Hmm delicious...

Does anyone remember a denpa song on Youtube about a girl complaining that someone stole food from her? I think it was about pudding or something.

>>16186061
Versus! (ばーさす！) by Nanahira, maybe?

>>16186478
No, it wasn't a well known artist.

via DS

https://mega.nz/#!O1JAAQwa!PIQKjorQ5E-qfWrYAWvgdfjMMEpU2zZfF48Gq9QLYlY

I only like it for a track that was (originally?) done by Toromi, from the 2nd Picolony Nauts.

>>16187517
[ピコロニーノーツ２]

Just fyi the Toromi pic folder from the last thread literally has Toromi's underaged exposed tits so be careful with download that

>>16187727
First of all, that was this thread.

And what do you mean by going out in the open to advertise it?

>>16187517
Aah, I thought I recognized the first track of the crossfade but couldn't tell from where.

>>16187727
Maybe to have been a little more careful in how you worded that. Pic-related? (I don't know Japanese.)

>>16175051
Since you were hesitant to post this, I hope that you will eventually delete it...like probably soon.

>>16187727
How do you know? Toromi is almost 40 years old by now, how old is the picture?

>>16189880
>40 years old
OLD

>>16187727
>>16188059
>>16188112
>>16189880

I deleted the folder. Sorry if I offended anyone. The pictures were taken in the 90s as far as I know which would make her in her 20s at the time.

I deleted it just to be sure, though.

>>16191128
Her age is stated as 16 as >>16188059
mentioned which would put the shoot date at around 1992.

Yeah deleting that was a good idea.

>>16189895
Yeah, so?

There is a young quality to her physicality that has always been a curious thing to me. I even wonder if she was born prematurely because that explosive, creative energy just could not wait to get started in the world.

>>16189880
>>16191128
>>16191165
http://auction.rakuten.co.jp/item/10979826/a/10000342/

>桃クリーム Vol.３ 1995年1月 児島玲子 桜井美代子 高倉明穂 南国あすか

>>16187727
>>16191165
So then, she could have been advertised as younger than her actual age, because of >>16193246 And therefore, I would not be in possession of any actual 'underage exposure'. Can't know for sure, without an actual birth date.

>>16183327
Arrr!

Does anyone know if you can still buy these anywhere? Either this version or just the regular version. I know it's old and sold out everywhere, but I still want one.

>>16201506
I think you can still get it on amazon.co.jp, but it's pretty expensive for a single album. I was thinking about it a month ago but got あらら、ど〜もCHUぅ instead.

>>16201506
I have seen both figures on Surugaya (used). They had price of 3000 yen each but that was maybe year ago before they started charging more for stuff.

Also there was one guy on Ebay selling this, but he wantedd a lot money.

>>16175051
What the fuck? I haven't been here in a while, has the 3D idol shit invaded the denpa threads as well?

>>16205293
No, not really.

I'm finding the 10+ syllable-per-second singing (rapping?) sections in つぶやき魔法少女りむる and 甘利の生贄スプラッター extremely addictive. Any recommendations for other songs with that kind of thing?

>>16208750

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwMiCYY8Q7o
This album has another song or two with parts like that too

>>16208750
Not as fast but still rapping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkKuFQgULc

>>16208953
Oh my god, this is too gimmicky.

>>16209550

What do you mean?

>>16208953
Another Nanahira x Kano song when

>>16209576
All the different parts, or segments where a different instrument is introduced, are there for reasons to be flashy or novel, as to try to get my attention and hold it to the song by changing it around and adding something new at every turn. There is nothing more expressive about it than just that, to be gimmicky...

So, in such a way, "going overboard" can be an irresponsible way of creating music.

>>16213775
Is this your first denpa song or something? This genre is synonymous with gimmicky and going overboard

>>16213775

I don't think having a song with a lot of variety or different styles is "gimmicky", that just makes it an interesting song. By your definition most progressive rock songs would also be gimmicky. Not that "gimmicky" really means anything negative in the first place, let alone being somehow irresponsible. What is there some sort of musical code of ethics?

>>16213936
>>16214052
I'm talking about a particular song. Don't try to take what I've said and apply it to other songs, or lump it in with the whole of a 'genre'. There is a lot more to how people listen to music and the differences from where they choose to focus their listening. I've listened to enough music to know that this is purely gimmick. If not, then you can tell me what else ties it all together...

>>16213775
>>16214183
Like, it would make sense to me if in the lyrics she was describing teleportation experiences of different cultures across the globe. Such as the way it goes from one instrument to another is completely inexplicable to my ears, not for the sake of being various but for being so oddly pieced together with the adjoining music.

>>16214052
>What is there some sort of musical code of ethics?
Actually, yeah. It's called artistic integrity.

>>16214183
>>16214247

The song only has two different sets of instruments lol it just switches between a folksy midi sound and some more traditionally electronic sections. If having two styles present in one song is a "gimmick" to you you must have a really shallow taste in music.

>>16214264

"artistic integrity" is not a code of ethics, it's barely even a definable thing. Which songs have integrity and which do not is almost entirely subjective and unrelated to the actual quality of the song anyways.

>>16214183
>Don't try to take what I've said and apply it to other songs

I never implied that you were criticizing other songs. I said that your complaint is extremely strange and misdirected because you were complaining that that particular nanahira song was "gimmicky" and "overboard" when it was obviously performed by an artist that loves to be excessive and do gimmicks and belongs to a whole genre that loves to be excessive and do gimmicks. Some artists' entire albums are gimmicks, nevermind a single track. So it seems to me like you're either very confused, or you know jack shit about denpa

>>16214309
Look, I realize that as a fan of the song and its artist(s) you are the one who is creating the magic that gives meaning to what must be a glorious experience going on in your head. I'm simply trying to answer a question that has been asked of me. I recognize you from these threads and I'm sure we'll catch up more on this type of stuff later down the line. In the meantime, let's try to listen and experience as much different "denpa" as we can. I am always seeking to understand people, but with words it sometimes gets to be an undesirable effort for me.

>>16214325
>I said that your complaint is extremely strange and misdirected because you were complaining that that particular nanahira song was "gimmicky" and "overboard" when it was obviously performed by an artist that loves to be excessive and do gimmicks
Well, that explains it! So, then how is my comment so strange?

>whole genre that loves to be excessive and do gimmicks
Eh, I think you are generalizing a bit too much about this.

>>16214309
There's definitely a code of ethics in music, especially in niche indie genres, of which denpa is a part.

It's pretty basic. Stay true to your musical vision. Don't sell out your mission statement. Most artists are trying to express themselves creatively, which is almost always diametrically opposed to selling their art as a commodity.

This works even if you apply it to denpa. How would people react if a beloved otaku favorite suddenly started playing po-faced traditional folk? I can't imagine they'd keep their fans.

>>16214354

Alright. I wasn't trying to attack your preferences in music or anything (it's fine not to like the song for whatever reason) I just felt like some of the things you were saying were a little silly.

I'm not >>16214325 by the way

>>16214379

Um, I'm pretty sure you have it backwards with that last example, sticking only to the music people want from you is what might be considered lacking in integrity. Making the music you want to make (even if it's not what your fans want) is what's commonly referred to when people talk about musical integrity. Not that I think that actually matters, in the end a song is good if it's good and bad if it's bad it doesn't matter whether it's what the artist truly wanted to make. Death of the author and all that.

>>16214325
I'm just saying that the song was "too gimmicky". What you've said just explains why. Thanks.

I quit... It is why "intellects" (or people who like to think this way >>16214394) usually have such bad taste in music; they don't listen from the heart.

>>16214444
It is how all their emotion gets directed toward the defense and preservation emotionless music.

>>16214309
>If having two styles present in one song is a "gimmick" to you you must have a really shallow taste in music.
THAT'S MY BOY \m/

>you know jack shit about denpa

When will they start printing up the t-shirts?

>>16214264
8888888888888

>>16215031
ｗｗ

Rabid Nanahira fans will just about say anything to get you to believe that they are on to something so special and great, and that no other music is even capable of being better. That is some spooky, powerful denpa she must be putting out into the Universal Mind... I would NOT want to be under its control.

>>16215421
Thanks, I'll be on the lookout for rabid nanahira fans then. Good thing I haven't ever seen any in these threads so far.

While we're on the topic, you should also keep an eye out for several annoying cunts we have in these threads who seem to want to "discuss denpa" but really it just turns out to be code for "lol you have shit taste"-tier comments

>>16215513
Lovely sarcasm.

I'll decode that as "your feelings hurt" and chalk it up to immature emotional response. I swear, there really seems to be a connection in that and the typical Nanahira fan's capacity to deal with any negative criticism of her music, at least here in these threads. Maybe cause is the same couple people...

>>16215567
>acts sarcastic
>gets a sarcastic response
>pretends to take the high road
Good job. But you might want to re-read your last post (>>16215421) tomorrow with fresh eyes before you go around saying others are acting immature.

For the record you're the reason why I say I only want to use these threads for uploading/downloading. "Discussing" denpa with you is just not fun, and just like that other guy >>16214444 I'm done talking to you

>>16215613

I think both of those posts were written by the same guy probably

>>16215513
Have you ever noticed...
and this has been pretty funny to me, in these threads...
that just about every time Toromi gets a lot of mention, at least in these past few months, someone or some people have to start throwing up Nanahira videos.
It's like they feel there is a need to compete, or what?

>>16215613
Aw come on, try to lighten up. Remember, I was trying to discuss denpa earlier and got told that I "know jack shit about denpa" haha. It's been fun times, these threads... We have to not take things so seriously, Ok?

>>16215624
Oh, yes ;)

>>16215625

I was the main person arguing with you (not the one you're responding to though) and also the one who posted the nanahira song in the first place and I like both artists. Someone asked for songs with fast singing and a song I know with that just happened to be by nanahira, don't make up stupid conspiracy bs please.

>>16215635
You don't believe in a Universal Mind?
You don't believe the great powers of radio waves?
What about artistic integrity?
What DO YOU BELIEVE IN??? LOL

>>16215635
Oh wait, maybe you are not this guy >>16215513
and I'm mistakenly referring to your use of the word "conspiracy". In which case, Sorry.

>>16215654
>LOL

back to facebook

>>16208953
For the record... this is actually 2 separate tracks and completely different songs. The youtube uploader just put 2 tracks in one video.

>>16214394
OK, then.

Let's invert it. How about if the po-faced trad folk circle decided to make idol music? How do you figure there is no art in music?

We can semanticize it all you want but I think you know what I'm talking about here.

I'm late but 時空間超越 √ ライブラリィ by MOSAIC.WAV has a section of very fast speech in the center of it.

Top 2 Denpa thread rules:
1. posting nanahira results in trudenpa shitposting
2. posting momobako results in drama shitposting

>>16217437
I thought of this song too!

>>16217865
Have they ever worked on songs together? This is important

>>16218159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA4LhLer4CE

>>16218159
the Holy Trinity (koko, nanahira, and momobako):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV434UC1AGc

>>16216891

If they switched to making idol music because they wanted to that wouldn't be a "lack of artistic integrity" that's assuming that genres have inherent artistic values and that by switching to idol music they're somehow betraying art which is completely ridiculous in multiple ways.

I'd appreciate it if you provided me with whatever you definition of "artistic integrity" is because based on the common definition of making art because you want to and not for profit just switching genres would not lack integrity.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who make idol music that love the music they make, same with any genre.

Actually I should probably just stop arguing with you at this point since I don't want to shit up the thread any longer.

>>16216718

I think they're sort of meant to be played together given one leads directly into the other but yeah I forgot to mention this.

>>16218577
>I'd appreciate it if you provided me with whatever you definition of "artistic integrity" is because based on the common definition of making art because you want to and not for profit just switching genres would not lack integrity.

Don't be obtuse. Of course I meant switching genres as a cash-in.

>Actually I should probably just stop arguing with you at this point since I don't want to shit up the thread any longer.

Agreed. Also, I respect your opinion. You sound like an intelligent person. I did enjoy talking with you.

https://youtu.be/OYMVEZW2cHw

>>16218915
legetimately creepy

>>16216718
Related to this, some people seem to listen to dennpa music on youtube, but I'd really recommend listening to the albums instead. Besides mixing tracks together, I've seen people edit out parts of the song or change the pitch / speed without any notice in the video description. I know it is an easy way to try stuff out, but you could miss out on stuff this way.

>>16221721
I've never encountered this problem before, maybe it is because I don't gravitate towards the popular hardcore/dubstep style of music that usually attracts the type of listener who will do that sort of crap.

>>16221721
Got it, thanks.

But most of us here are not new to the internet.

I fucking hate this thread you guys just can't stop arguing can you

Post more unusual denpa!

>>16201506
It's out of print, so if you want a sealed copy expect to pay a lot.

I got a new copy from Amazon.co.jp a few years ago when it was still in print.

Decided to get out of my comfort zone and look more into it - To now have the image of this man so energetically attached to the music makes all the difference. And to watch him lovingly interact with the fans here, a blessing. What a powerful connection. A newfound respect for these flashy, bombastic sounds, which for the most part I've just been taking out of context (under headphones). Live denpa is a different animal, and a beast all its own. He is an amazing performer https://youtu.be/vw1YdosH3P4

>>16221604
creepy crawly 1-2-3 eyebally

>>16224289
Don't hate, just let it work itself out like sometimes the way people do and make reparations with themselves. Eventually they feel better and in an act of love will post free denpa for others.

probably wrong thread, but what happened to the lolicore.ch archive?

>>16225994
I can access it over ssh.
The web directory for me so I guess thats what you meant.

>>16226065
>The web directory for me
*doesn't work for me

>>16226065
Yeah, i'm trying to get into the web directory. Is there any way to connect to it? maybe via FTP or something

>>16226076
I'm on linux so I just use sshfs and browse it like its a normal folder.
If you are on windows I guess try what they recommend, which is this https://www.eldos.com/sftp-net-drive/

>>16226083

ah it's working now, thanks

>>16218183
I actually really love these duet songs. They have an energy that's like feeding off each other, even when the singing on its own isn't that special.

>>16208967
Why is this kind of acoustic warfare legal?

>>16218915
So, is this what dokudenpa sounds like?

Who drunken-denpa-listening?

>>16234957
https://a.pomf.cat/nsydwx.mp3

>>16235021
W..Who is that?

>>16235034
https://a.pomf.cat/jzfebf.mp3

>>16235040
I recognize that voice.

That's that guy voicing the "" albums from 33.turbo?

>>16235064
https://a.pomf.cat/soaheb.mp3

>>16235040
https://a.pomf.cat/klaqla.wav

>>16235094
61 (total) little clips like that.

>>16235094
Do you have a copy of that album uploaded somewhere?

>>16235109
That's some alarm material right there.

Is there a more active IRC channel than the #denpa channel on rizon?

>>16235175
http://www.mediafire.com/file/877rxza41y6dhq6

Denpa really doesn't work outside the East.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLKiknDbFjA

>>16245622
What the fuck man. Why is there even a correlation being made here?

>>16245622

Purpose?

>>16245622
At first I vomited... then I actually laughed a little.

Now I'm back to feeling sad again. Thanks for the egg roll anyway.

>>16245622
kek


I'm not surprised that that comes from Funland.

Any strong album recommendations from the mediafire files? So far I've only listened to a few Nanahira albums and random songs on youtube. I'm transitioning from breakcore to denpa, though I'm not necessarily asking for breakcore esque recommendations.

>>16248484
Forgot to mention that pic related is my favourite.

Why has nobody tried to combine Denpa and Funeral Doom?

>>16249168
Let's commit suicide together.

Trudenpa doesn't really deserve us, or the droves of tasteless neophytes coming in under the Nanahira flag.

>>16250646

Feel free to share or talk about some "trudenpa" albums or songs instead of whining incessantly

>>16250959
Well, I share uploads and opinions to these threads and have quite a negative opinion of some of the more talked about stuff around here.

Feeling free to post uploads has become a waning sensation personally, since most people who are talking in these threads seem to hold the opinion that mainstream sounds and popular identity are what is indicative of great denpa.

It makes me not even want to use the term anymore, because I've been relating it to a subversive style of music and that is exactly the opposite of what most people will want to listen to. And it seems like the gates have opened to just about anybody with the idea that moe voice over any kind of music is 'cool' now.

Now, I'm even getting the impression that our beloved denpa music is going to get bastardized in the form of some obnoxious lolicore or something. It has me very discouraged lately, but I guess we'll see how it goes.

>>16251438

I think you misunderstood me, I meant that you should STOP whining, not that you should launch into another baseless rant.

I guarantee you if you showed some random person a modern denpa song they'd still think that you're a weirdo so don't worry you can still feel smug about liking things other people don't.

If you want the thread to have more older/"subversive" denpa then post some, if you're just here to complain then fucking leave.

>>16251495
Woah, my friend

Just because someone expresses a hateful opinion, doesn't make them a whiny baby. (If there is enough positive expression of the opposite opinion, then there can be an equal amount to go against it.)

Just because someone chooses to go against the popular current, doesn't mean they do it to feel smug either. (You might have a personal problem with it, but a little niche genre which is evolved and named by actual weirdo aspects of modern society is not something that will ever exist in a 'popular' mentality.)

And just because you are offended by criticism, doesn't give you the right to tell someone to shut up or leave. (You ought to consider your own rudeness in that, sorry.)

>>16252460
not the guy you're responding to but you should probably stop posting in every thread about how much you hate nanahira

we get it already, just post music you like

nobody wants to read several posts in every goddamn thread yelling about how much someone hates an artist and their entire fanbase, keep that to yourself instead of bringing it up every time her music is posted

>>16252477
I really wish that I could understand why so many people love her.

>>16252492
>>15866006

>>16252460

I'm not offended by criticism, I'm annoyed because you're an obnoxious person.

I personally love weird outsider music, including what you would call "trudenpa", but I don't go around complaining when things aren't "subversive" enough or unironically calling people "tasteless neophytes" just cause they like something I don't.

>>16252763
Ok, I understand.

Anyone here not speak Japanese? Do you look up the lyrics or not bother and just listen? I am very curious.

>>16253137
Once, I tried to describe the notion that lyrics are like a distraction, and that it helps me to understand the music better without knowing the meaning behind every word. Before I started listening to denpa, I avoided most English-speaking music for that reason and listened to a lot of instrumentals instead. In denpa songs, or the moe stuff that I mostly listen to, the point that they are singing cutely is enough for me to have a sense of the concept and really just enjoy the overall cute vibe. A rough translation of the title is usually enough to satisfy my curiosity. Sometimes I may ask on here what a certain phrase means.

For me, lyrics get in the way a lot of times, and I more admire the melody and the voice in which they are sung anyway. Someone else might say that I can't possibly appreciate denpa to the fullest without understanding the subject matter, and to a certain degree I would agree. But I don't really care.

>>16251495
Go back to your nanahira thread faggot

>>16252477
Haven't you thought that maybe it's not one person?

>>16214379

Arguments like yours are often made by people who know jack shit about the creative process. Even if we assume that an artist is merely "selling their art as a commodity" based on how the song is written, it still qualifies as an artistic mode of expression that is inseparable from one made with so-called "pure" intentions. You'd either have to be a psychic to enforce your shit ethics system, or an indignant cunt that attributes ill intentions to artists you dislike.

So, anon. Which are you? A psychic or a cunt?


>How would people react if a beloved otaku favorite suddenly started playing po-faced traditional folk? I can't imagine they'd keep their fans.

Did you listen to the same type of song your entire life, anon? Well, neither do artists.

>>16214379
>>16255682
One thing I forgot to add. Regardless if an artist only wants to make money, they still have to utilize the same creative process as someone who does it for shits and giggles. As a mere listener, you're not privy their personal intentions. Art is experienced from the other side of the bridge.

>>16255682
Literally hilarious because I've had a career in the music business for over 20 years. No way for me to prove it without compromising anonymity but you are completely talking out of your ass.

It's pretty obvious to fans when an artist "sells out." You can split hairs all you want but either you've never been in any kind of music scene that prides artistic integrity. Enjoy trainspotting from the sidelines and sounding like a complete idiot to anyone in the fields.

More semantic arguments from an argumentative anon who desperately wants to be right about everything. Kill yourself, you doss fucking cunt.

>>16255682
Literally hilarious because I've had a career in the music business for over 20 years. No way for me to prove it without compromising anonymity but you are completely talking out of your ass.

It's pretty obvious to fans when an artist "sells out." You can split hairs all you want but either you've never been in any kind of music scene that prides artistic integrity or these are just more semantic arguments from an argumentative anon who desperately wants to be right about everything.

Enjoy trainspotting from the sidelines and sounding like a complete idiot to anyone in the fields. Kill yourself, you doss fucking cunt.

>>16255826
the first one was better desu

>>16255832
There was a grammatical error. I couldn't just leave it there.

>>16255682
It's one thing for an artist's style to evolve but it's another to genre hop. That is a harbinger of failure almost every time.

>>16255854

So just because the music might not turn out as "good" means that an artist shouldn't make what they want to for their own creative vision? Isn't that the exact opposite of what you were describing as "artistic integrity"?

Which is it, are you supposed to make music for yourself or for your fans? According to you you apparently can't have both without selling out.

Interesting how someone who claims to "work in the music business" (I can't help but notice you didn't actually say you're an artist) and who puts so much importance on their own arbitrary definition of artistic integrity can so blithely complain about artists choosing to use multiple styles in a song or switching to a new genre.

I'm not>>16255682 by the way, I was personally ready to just stop talking about this and I wish they hadn't have brought it up again but now that you're posting again I can't help calling you out on your stupidity.

Arbitrarily throwing different instrumental segments into a song can come across to my ears as being reckless, tacky, and jacked up. I question the artist's direction, as it may seem they are lost or lacking integrity or cohesiveness in their plan.

>>16256401
Yeah, whatever, dipshit. Keep living in your echo chamber and stay ignorant.

>I'm not>>16255682 by the way
Oh, please.

My little son comes home from school with a sort of crappy drawing, I'm not going to question his artistic integrity. It goes on the refrigerator and we're all happy about it, because he is loved and appreciated in every way. He is my son, but his drawings actually suck.

If an artist releases an album to the world, then it becomes more of a responsibility that we have as an entire species to question the integrity of what is being consumed. If I feel that what you are consuming is bad, then I need to understand why you are doing it. Also, you should question my concern as well. It's a good way to grow, for everybody. We're not kids anymore.

Arguments are valuable in any community but what's with all this pointless back-and-forth? How many times must we repeat the trudenpa war?

https://comfy.moe/kjwgve.mp3

>>16256838
>If I feel that what you are consuming is bad, then I need to understand why you are doing it.
Except every time someone explains it to you you just act like a sarcastic douchebag

Let me make it easier for you. For some people, how a piece of artistic work makes them feel IS their criteria for quality. Before you respond, why don't you just stop for a moment and consider that point. If you ever studied math/logic extensively it shouldn't come as a surprise to you that what you're dealing with there basically amounts to an axiom about artistic quality that differs from your own.
It simply might not be possible for you to reconcile that with your own view, you just have to accept it.

If the criteria for what is denpa music were made as rigid and formulaic as you seem to want it to be from the start then denpa probably wouldn't even exist today.
and if it did, it would probably be just as cliched or boring as you think some of the music is now too, but just for different reasons.

If there's any problem here it isn't that people like something. The problem would be that people ARE trying too hard to define what is and what isn't denpa. Because nanahira is considered to be denpa right? Anything she puts out is going to be "denpa" if she wants it to be isn't it?
That's where treating art as you're doing lands us. So your proposed solutions are the very thing that causes the problem in the first place.

Denpa in the past was, and should have remained, a non-genre. Just a label that people can affix to certain songs that they FEEL sounds "denpa" as a community driven thing (just like saying a song feels "happy").
Today it's becoming more and more of an actual genre and that's causing the issues you speak of, and it also happens to be the result of people doing what you're doing.

Just relax, feel the music, forget about the artist. Take on a case by case basis, and everything would be fine. But of course it isn't like the western audience for this stuff is going to influence the artists in any way, so none of this matters at all.

Also can you stop multiposting so much? It's kind of embarrassing to watch. I agree about not arguing though it's getting tiring.

>>16257599

Err, just to clarify I'm not the person who posted just before this, that was just weird timing. I said "also" as in "in addition to this picture"

>>16257596
>none of this matters at all.

>>16257596
>Except every time someone explains it to you you just act like a sarcastic douchebag
Oh look >>16257641
This was no exception, what a surprise

Reminder to listen to OLDdenpa regularly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_WIDBn9mEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5jEwtQyRP8

>>16257647
I'm sorry. I should've explained my quoting you as to be agreeing with you somewhat. Though, I actually meant it in the nihilistic sense that all this bickering amounts to nothing in the end. (Maybe I don't even believe that entirely, but we should probably be done for now.) I was really just being sincere.

So if you are happy with an artist, then that is great, of course I get that. Sometimes our tastes will change and it can be a welcome elevation of the senses. Staying true and defending to the death is a wonderful virtue also, if you are going to attach yourself so closely to anything in this world.

Peace and hopes of an open mind to you always, friend.

Is this denpa?

>>16258801
It's your average run of the mill jazz album

Thank you to the anon who showed me this existed in the last thread. I never thought I'd ever hear denpa on vinyl and it was well worth it!

>>16264844
You know that acoustically, vinyl has no advantages over CD, right?

>>16264896
yes, I know that, but it does sound different it's just a matter of personal preference, it's the same as tube amps there's no acoustical advantage to tube amps it's just a different sound that some people prefer over solid state. Plus with vinyl you get much bigger cover art which is a nice bonus.

From 9tensu.com: Caramelody
Link: https://mega.nz/#!I1BhDAza!NegUovIZiBdbspFKvgUcQYNzehhAMADt9wgOEHmUIl0

>>16264844
Lol, no problem. It's always nice to see people spend money on denpa goods.

>>16264896
For me, the appealing thing was simple owning a piece of denpa music on vinyl. I don't really care about the quality.

Besides, the box also includes the whole thing on CD, as well as in raw .wav, so I'm not really missing out in that regard.

>>16266064
I appreciate it more coming from the anon who posted it in the last thread.

I want nomico to sit on my face.

>>16264844
Assuming you don't live in Japan, did you buy this through sham's site?

>>16266666
Sweet post number dude.

I wonder if there's a denpa song about something like this....

>>16266826
There is, and it goes something like this:

https://comfy.moe/dzqqua.mp3

Get it from 9T:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/22dlbt4ri37ic8g

>>16266924
It's from Astost, not 9T, but thanks

>>16267053
Not really, you're welcome.

>>16264844
This is still available? I was broke when it originally came out but would love to have it now.

>>16268373
afaik, yes.

>>16266064
Didn't realize she was the same Caramel from Usamimi Ribbon.

that Hug and Kiss is dope as fuck!

>>16257769
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5jEwtQyRP8
Is this what singing sounds like without autotune?

>>16266064
It has a soothing genericness.

>>16266798
Got it from http://ec-russell.jp/mos/ and used Goody-Japan to get it shipped to the UK

>>16268373
Yeah, unless they've sold out within the last few weeks it's still available.

Can anyone tell me what "hua hua" means, I hear it all the time in these songs

>>16271846
Fuwa fuwa, and it means fluffy.

>>16271942
Interesting. Is that applied to a kind of emotional sensation usually or meant more in the tactile sense?

>>16272849
Can be either (or both). Depends on context.

Is there music that's considered denpa without voice ?

>>16269834
https://youtu.be/mmQ-nmw__LI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkQTXb5nFHY

New picolony and mikobako this C91

ピコロニーノーツ４
http://www.orc2000.com/cd/picolony4.html

はぴねすア・ラ・モード
https://happinessmikobako.tumblr.com/

Someone linked a song from "Iku Akume Training Diary" last thread. I'm wondering if anybody has a copy of it (and would be willing to share it).

>>16275207
http://nazi.moe/ko_iku.zip

>>16275214
Thanks a bunch m8 :-)

Is there a song where they repeat "honey bunny my love" at the end?

I dont know what I am going to do when Nanahira quits doing this

>>16275330
I mean, it's one google search away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUumhywtD-U

>>16274999
One more:

http://milk-crown.wixsite.com/milkcrown/blank-c1pdi

>>16275393
That's fucked up. I spent an hour looking through my playlist and found nothing. I was sure it was there somewhere because it was so stuck in my head. I must have listened to it weeks or months ago and then deleted it, but it remained stuck up there and grew like a cancer unnoticed. Until it started to leak and entered my thoughts more and more, up to the point where I was whispering "honey bunny my love" in real life. Nudenpa, not even once.

I seem to have lost my Christmas playlist from last year. I have this so far but I know there's more:

ちぃむdmp - はぴはぴ!くりすます
twinkle - はじめてのクリスマス
おでんぱスタジオ - ぐろりあ
なゆ - よふかしノエル
鷹月さくら - 聖夜のスペシャルシューティングスター

>>16275768
Mamyukka - 僕とあの娘の終末日記
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPMQAAWLAI
How about this one?

>>16275768
>>16275776
I was just going to say, you're missing the best one! Mamyukka's even having it for free download on booth.

>>16274999
tfw HoneyHoney isn't uploaded yet and their next thing is already coming out

Looking forward to Picolonynauts

>>16274999
I hope the new Picolony steps up, 2 and 3 left me dissapointed, I felt like like half the songs were generic moe-pop, while I think every track from 1 was great in it's own way and 0 was pretty awesome too. Preview sounds good so let's hope!

>>16274999
>小紺ココ
Did I miss the memo? When did koko start using this name? Just saw in the new innocent key youtube video her introducing herself as such too.

>>16257498
>>https://comfy.moe/kjwgve.mp3

What artist is this?

>>16276737
無理レコーズ

>>16276744
>無理レコーズ

Thank you

>>16275768

Was doubleeleven UpperCut - Ring My Golden Bell～聖夜に響け 黄金の鐘の音～ on there?

https://comfy.moe/vkvuzm.mp3

>>16275428
>http://milk-crown.wixsite.com/milkcrown/blank-c1pdi

This was last year.

>>16276279
tfw when you buy it and upload it yourself? Jeez.

>>16276279
Next time try to ask nicely instead of bitching

https://mega.nz/#!kw4QFDpB!xLZAMp4nf2xXbA8PHd8vp2Jlnw5MMRLF4262IWkKgCs

>>16277211
Whoops, you're right. My bad.

Did anyone manage to get Secret Patisserie by 七色ビタミン?

Kaorin is back on Picolonynauts 4, excellent

>>16277367
>bitching

That wasn't even my intention, anon. It's just that I'm still in waiting for M3 releases mode and was surprised to realize that we were already this close to C91.

Appreciate the upload though

Don't know where else I can ask but does anyone have a download for LNs? Specifically Bakemonogatari vol. 2 (don't wanna wait for fucking yen press or whatever)

The broader the audience becomes for this stuff, means the broader the appeal it has, hence a broader definition of "denpa" and the musical blurring or 'dulling' of its focal points.

>>16280434
And what would those focal points be?

>>16280462
To make unique music.

>>16280480
That could be said for any genre. May be focal to denpa, but we're not getting anywhere. What makes a denpa song that hasn't been dulled by exposure to a broader audience?

>>16280507
Talking about music that's being made for the broader audience now. Artists are now looking to what will get the most exposure, in reference to the popular success of others. It's dull, can't you tell?

>>16280507
>What makes a denpa song that hasn't been dulled by exposure to a broader audience?
The fact that is so creatively solid in its uniqueness that the general audience won't dare to flock to it.

>>16280596
>It's dull, can't you tell?
Denpa? No, because I only started listening recently and don't actually know what this whole nudenpa/trudenpa or w/e distinction is. I've only been listening to ななひら and ももばこ and I'm guessing they are whom you're referring to, and that would make me the broader audience. I can see the exposure resultant "dulled" "focal points" of other genres which I am more familiar with, but not denpa, not because I deny it, but because I even know what they are.

>>16280655
So anything creative and unique is denpa?

>>16280689
Yeah I've always figured denpa to be very unique and weird, but now that a lot of it is sounding the same I guess it's only relative to your listening history, in determining what is uniquely denpa to you.

きゅん×2カーニバル 百萌夜行 by STUDIO 1 COURS is an excellent album.

How to tell someone is a denpa shitter:
1. They think denpa = moe pop or happy hardcore
2. They have no songs made before 2007 on their denpa playlist
3. They don't understand denpa's origins in eroge
4. They can't or do not try to understand the lyrics
5. They listen almost exclusively to Denpagumi Inc., Koko, Choko, Momobako, or Nanahira (keyword here is exclusively)
6. They don't care about composers

Be sure to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

>>16281470
I do all of these except 5. what're you gonna do about it?

>>16281470
guilty of 1 and 4

>>16281488
Ah, I knew it. Of course you're from /a/. You can expect those people to really half ass their hobbies.

>>16281470
I agree, though I don't think putting it into such an explicit outline publicly is going to be helpful to anyone, particularly yourself. You're already ego trippin >>16281495 ?


And speaking of before 2007, I got a little chuckle out of this:
>Be sure to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

>>16281534
Sorry, I was out of line.

Always amusing whenever somebody tells others how they're not enjoying things correctly. I'm personally purely in it for the music. Metashit like the origins of a particular music genre or who composed what have never interested me or been a factor in how I appreciate its sounds. This goes for denpa as well as any other genre that I listen to.

The not understanding lyrics thing does bother me but seeing as how there's no real solution to this short of learning japanese, I tend to just ignore it

>>16281665
You're supposed to be amused by the music - enough to research the composers of your favorite sounds even, and to not be so blatantly ignorant about any aspect of it.

Just stop reacting so suddenly to things people say on here. Your post begins with a defensive sarcasm: "Always amusing" - No, you're annoyed or otherwise agitated by something. Figure it out. It always goes deeper than what you'll immediately feel.

The most bizarre thing about this whole discussion is that these threads probably wouldn't even exist were it not for eroge makers in the late nineties/early aughts trying to stand out in an increasingly crowded market by having weird opening themes. We are literally here as a result of songs made for marketing purposes existing. You'd think snobbery over "creative vision" would be something far removed from this place.

>>16281470
>1. They think denpa = moe pop or happy hardcore
>implying it isn't
There are only 2 or 3 exceptions.

>>16283016
Mind reposting his deleted post?

>>16175051
Would it be possible if you could upload a version minus the underage nudes? I need more of toromi's art in my life.

>>16283456
They're NOT underage!

>>16283456
Just download it, nerd

>>16283456
Just visit her blog http://blog.toromi.ciao.jp/ where I think most (or all) of those drawings and images were taken from. He didn't include every one.

Make way! Album of the decade coming through!!

>>16289305
colory starry is definitely among nanahira's weaker albums what are you doing

>>16245622
this has a lot of production value
I don't like it

>>16283016
Only if you're a newfag who only listens to nanahira

>>16290336
can you repost >>16281470 for me pls

>>16290357
>can you repost content that was deleted

how about no, learn to use the archive

If nobody responds to you the first time you ask nobody wants to

>>16290376
Never crossed my mind to check the archive. Sorry for being stupid.

>>16289305
>Album of the decade

In the "shit & generic" category, right?

Isn't this the best album of the century?

>>16290600
魔導師労働基準法違反だぞ！ ブラック.マジック.カンパニー is the only really good track on this album

but it's so good it makes up for the rest of it

>>16290596
In every category, second only to >>16290600!!

>>16290610
Have you got anything similar?

>>16290610
>the only really good track on this album

"Lie chi te la di hul"

>>16290600

Second track and these two (>>16290610 >>16290629) are my favorites, I think it's my favorite Nanahira album in general too.

Are there any neo-fascists who actually love the watered-down, generic denpa that Nanahira mostly puts out?

>>16291725
Nanahira is very cute and nice

>>16291960
Try old and busted lmao

Woah! Isn't this one of the most revolutionary denpa albums??

>>16293551
Quite possible the utmost important album in 伝播 today, a tour de force.

>>16293551
I wanna shake in their pink if you know what I mean!

I've been listening to more of IOSYS's original albums since I liked Maid in Kyuunctuary so much and they're all quite good, but two of them aren't on RTL, ファンタジックぴこれーしょん！ and スチームパンク・ラプソディア if anyone has them I'd appreciate an upload.

Their first original album ワァオ！ハイパー電波チャン is my favorite so far, it's got a lot of really good tracks, here's my favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VfzyCC915I

>>16294851
ファンタジックぴこれーしょん！ was posted here once. Search the archive for the last 3-4 denpa threads.

>>16295219

I searched it's name already and didn't find anything but I'll look again.

>>16295226
I'll just up mine. Merry christmas, anon

https://mega.nz/#!hZ1iRDLQ!Y2tB6MoDqwie6F4cHyckcKbh_I0dcKwVcIIcDCaS4Z0

>>16281470
Added to the trudenpa wallpaper

>>16295255

Thank you kind anon I appreciate it!

>>16294851
Good taste

>>16295260
I have a question, how is UNDER17 not moe pop? I listen to chiimu, Nanahira, etc, and compared to UNDER17 they sound similar except they're older.

>>16295260
Pin this to the OP, please.

>>16294851
ワァオ！ハイパー電波チャン is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing.

>>16294851
スチームパンク・ラプソディア is available on MF if you check google, it was posted on DS and the link is still active.

I was too lazy to check google but bandwidth is cheap so here's my shit 320 copy of ファンタジックぴこれーしょん！https://a.cuntflaps.me/tyxvgm.rar

>>16296352

Ah thank you! I should've seen that, I even went to DS and looked over the albums there but I must've missed it or something.

>>16295260
Great collage, it captures the obnoxiousness of this person who keeps shitting up these threads. And it also really shows how shallow and limited his knowledge about the denpa phenomenon is in general.

>>16296072
please do this

>>16295799
One of their albums is even called "Moe song wo kiwameru zo!!"

>>16295799
they absolutely are moe pop, that's always what they self identified as, as well as pretty much solidifying moe pop as a genre in the first place

>>16283456
I don't know anything about it, but you could get the moe card game.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ggee.vividruntime.game_ticket_1764

Is nightcore denpa??

>>16295799
Denpa and moe are cultural things, just judging by the sound isn't enough. The difference is the cultural context. They were one of the pioneers of moe pop in an era where self-aware moe otaku culture was breaking from within a clique into the mainstream (first half of the 2000s) in an environment where otaku and akiba culture were really frowned upon, much more than today. Later MOSAIC.WAV described themselves as Akiba-pop, which is spot on; it's closely related to these developments.

These developments were shocking at the time, especially songs that rebelliously and proudly exploited this full-throttle, which is why they were recognized as denpa (brainwashing) songs by the otaku net community at the time. In the other hand this culture traveled to the west much more slowly therefore we might be missing the "shock" aspect, unless you had Internet since the 90s and had access to these things.

What >>16282729 said is interesting, UNDER17 was closely related to eroge culture between 2000~2003 and did several opening songs, Popotan's being the most well-known. Their stand-alone songs and movement that followed was highly inspired by their work here. Listening to old eroge songs is a fun way to observe this development throughout the years and it's an interesting topic for anyone interested in moe and its developments.

There was also an interest in denpa songs outside of the moe sphere but it mostly died out, sadly.

>>16296375
Why do people assume it's one person? Please enlighten us, I think the cultural context is essential to understanding the phenomenon. I agree that there's no need to be obnoxious about it, though.

>>16297891
Yes. It is the truest of all the denpas.

is there a download all button/torrent?

>>16298289
Wouldn't that be very overwhelming?

>>16298337
i want to be overwhelmed

>>16298289
From what I remember someone had uploaded a zip with the songs from the guidebook of classic denpa songs, that would be a good intro.

>>16298289
You can just throw the mediafire folders at jdownloader.

>>16298565
Captcha is too much pain and some files get corrupted

>>16300811
You're one lazy fucker.

Anyone has the commune310 RGB compilation albums?

>>16283471
>>16284526
I couldn't because the mega link is dead, calm down.

Merry Christmas jp/denpa :D

>>16295255
The last song is pretty good. It's trance with some unfortunate dubshit moments, though.

Hi guys! Does anyone know where I can get this?Thank you very much!

>>16307590
Main page of RTL.

>>16306887

Yeah that track is pretty good (despite not being denpa like you said). I think my favorites on that album are these three

めうめうぺったんたん！！ https://a.pomf.cat/aeioxw.mp3
突撃！ガラスのニーソ姫！ - long ver. - https://a.pomf.cat/ibtuki.mp3
†渚の小悪魔ラヴリィ～レイディオ† – ARM remix – https://a.pomf.cat/zkrdll.mp3 (I like this remix significantly more than the original sasuga ARM)

Why do people claim that using Malice Cannon is cheating? It's about the same damage as youmu with both streams hitting but without the benefit of yuyuko's super spread for stage portions/when you can't be under the boss. Magic team also doesn't get a free bomb every level let alone the ridiculous benefits Border Team gets.

>>16308387
Wrong thread my man.

>>16308448

Crap, sorry my bad

Why are people so autistic and keep acting like they're mama's special little snowflake? Genres exist to sort music, not to define it. If music sounds "too similar" that means the genre is doing a fine job at classification. That's literally the only reason it exists.

Making music just to sound wacky and different is an equal amount of tryhard faggotry as making music just to appeal to a wide audience. In reality, most artists just create whatever they enjoy and are inspired by. Guess what? That means large throngs of people can form and end up liking the same stuff. BUT OH GOD I CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN. I NEED TO BE UNIQUE OR ELSE I MIGHT AS WELL KILL MYSELF.

>>16312619
Because this is 4chan, what do you expect?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKVIJysMa9Y
Kicking it old-school.

holic service / birdtune new releases, my dream come true.

http://birdtune.jp/c91/
http://holicservice.com/ev-c91/
http://holicservice.com/ev-c91madoka/

>>16314492
Reminds me of this one, I love it so much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcag0nzkNtU

>>16305013
You can get them on bandcamp. Kind of steep for what they are though, IMO.

>>16321140
True. Good thing that everything on bandcamp can be free.

>>16320560
>new holic service/birdtune
Wow, it's been a long time.

>>16312619
https://youtu.be/SjYPmY32UZ0

>>16253137

I like to know the lyrics when it comes to some denpa, as sometimes the lyrics are sociopolitical (like MOSAIC.WAV) or in some way emotional.

I try and look up the lyrics, bust usually find that there are none available online, or I have to translate with Google Translate. For some more popular songs there have been people kind enough to do proper translations.

>>16253137
I know Japanese, but sometimes I can't understand the lyrics until I look them up. For example, MOSAIC.WAV's Magical Hacker. I had no idea that there were references to old viruses until I read the lyrics. I'd like to translate that one sometime, it's very interesting.

>>16327000
I usually don't understand the song untill I read the lyrics. I'm novice moon rooner though.

>>16326827
You like sociopolitical themes in lyrics? What do MOSAIC.WAV sing about?

Generally politics in music puts me off, but I guess sociopolitics is much broader.

>>16327572
Not that guy but Sennou - Sakushu - Toranomaki is about brainwashing and exploiting the ignorant masses to be completely subservient to government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDoLCBEHVK8

>>16327661
it's such a charicaturization that it's actually just quite denpa to me. I don't think it's really any sort of serious political commentary.

>>16328091
Good. Serious political commentary shoved down your throat is preachy and cancerous.

>>16328117
Embarrassing, too.

>>16327572

MOSAIC.WAV have a song about stress in 21st century Japanese life, and another about pseudo-science. It's done in a ore observational, tongue-in-cheek way, but the themes really suit the denpa mood.

>>16328265
That sounds fine. What are the song/album names?

>>16300811
You can easily put the effort you make in fapping into downloading entire folders.

ちょこbeast mode

Anybody got this?

http://2clabo.tumblr.com/

>>16327661
More specifically, it is about "brainwashing and exploiting the ignorant masses" in the feudal wargame VAZIAL SAGA by Studio GIW, in which brainwashing the serfs is an integrated part of the story and game mechanics. By not providing this context you are trying to make it sound like something that it is not.

http://www.studiogiw.com/game/vsaga/

>>16330119
Not him but I didn't know, maybe he didn't either. Stop seeing ill will everywhere.

>>16330119
I'm sorry. I didn't know.

>>16253137
My vocabulary is very limited and I'm considering on making a mining deck based off of the words I am never able to catch in the songs I listen to.

https://a.pomf.cat/gijyyw.mp3

>>16330070
pic related

Other half, who is Mameno (not pictured), says that the CD has been sold out, and won't sell it in the download.

>>16330070

cute pic

Yo what is the connection between this and Pandasan youchien, in the melody? https://youtu.be/zY0xruylVHA

>>16174313
Anyone have a download of the 2 mediafire links in the OP without them being on mediafire? I don't have a pro account

What happened to nanahira.xyz?

>>16344140
Server update messed up the config. Fixed it.

>>16343338
You don't need a pro account to download (perhaps you selected more than one file, bulk downloading only works with mentioned pro accoumt). Just select one file by clicking on the file name, this should work fine.

>>16328332

ギリギリ科学少女ふぉるしぃ (Falsie the Pseudo-science Girl) and ストレス Free Style from the album 七三値ぱすかはダイスを振らない！

>>16350623
Thank you.