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Jets are shit.

I have extreme diarrhea and I was just want to play the game

Reminder that Jet Keiun is hot garbage and only get Kikka, wait for a torpedo bomber.

>>16253951
UGH THICCER

>>16253975
Did jet Torpedo bombers even exist?

>trying to do B76

dude I LOVE 1-3

>>16253985
There wouldn't be any point to it, would it? You have to go slow to drop a torpedo in the water, and jets are all about going fast .

>>16253975
Why would you wait when they're just going to give you another engine for that torp bomber? Do you really believe you'll be able to make more than 1 of them when they're likely to be from a 1-time quest?

Does anyone have a married unremodelled Yamakaze?

>>16253985
There are quite a few postwar ones, but for WW2 jets the Douglas BTD Destroyer was the closest I could find.

>>16254025
>unremodelled

Why?

>>16254014
A jet dive bomber might make sense not a Torpedo bomber.

>>16253946
In some cases it's just more evident and simply jarring. Examples: Kusonagi, Kuso Ichishit.

>>16254027
I find that the contrast between the lines unremodelled Yamakaze and remodelled Yamakaze affects the impact of her marriage line and post marriage secretary line.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30172376

Crafting 52s is suffering

>>16254083
>tfw 3 pages of them

I don't even know why

>>16253946
>EVERYONE has that problem

This is simply not true. And even for the ones that do have it some are worse than others.

>>16253958
Calm down anon.

>>16254135
I'm calm.

>>16254043

I thought I was imagining it, but does the tone of her equipment lines also change depending on whether she's been remodelled or not? For the lines that remain unchanged, that is.

How are you?

>>16254014
What if we modify the torpedoes to handle high speeds and do horizontal dive bombing?

>>16254158
I'm fine, thank you.

>>16254083
Try 20/20/10/90 and firmly believe that you want to craft Reppū.

>>16254162
It's not dive bombing if it's not vertical.

>>16254158
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Saratoga#comm-515796

>>16254175
I'm a fool and did 206010120

First 5 crafts were reppu rskx2 saiun penguin
30 crafts later was the first ever t52

>>16254083
Just do it with the Zero M52 monthly quest. Keep that quest on all month and the next month as well and once you've done the monthly quest twice you'll have saved on three M52s.

3-5 south is beating the absolute shit out of me this month

thanks for reading my blog

Hmm

>>16254178
Reminder that Yorkie looks like Shoukaku or Zuikaku.

>>16254226
Shouldn't you at least put one torpedo bomber there, anon?

>>16254233
Those were just jet opening strikes. I did have torpedo bombers equipped.

>>16254226
>jets are just as subject to RNG as any other plane

Wew.

>>16254226
Kek, that's awful.

Literally going to strangle someone

>>16254233
Jet torp bombers aren't implemented yet, anon.

>>16254262
And they never will because they are post-war.

>>16254264
They'll just make the Douglas a jet torp bomber in-game.

>>16254241
It's a dive bomber, it's shit by default. The jet aerial phase makes it worse because it acts alone.

>>16254269
#MDBGA

>>16254267
Which Douglas?

>>16254264
BV P178 Jet Bomber w/BT700?

>>16254223
How many married DDs do you send there? How many DDs you send there are considered elite/above average (i.e. stats higher than usual 50/80)?

>>16254275
Oops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_BTD_Destroyer

>>16254226
Dive bombing is shit, more at 11.

Expect to still have to bring them to counter enemy jets anyway.

>>16253985
It exists as a class in the game, so it might be added.

https://exhentai.org/g/1005609/1d75f387f5/

>>16254283
They'd just make it a dive bomber.

>>16254287
It does?

>>16254283
Did those bastards never take any picture of the jet variant? That would make it harder for the devs to consider it for implementation.

>>16254226
4 destroyers killed in 6 runs with 2 attacks per run. The accuracy isn't impressive, but it takes out a DD often enough to consider using, especially if you have an enemy combined fleet

>>16254300
According to chink dataminers at least.

>>16254318
So we're gonna get an Me 262 fighter, some unknown torp jet, and a recon jet?

>>16254298
Depends. The Ryuusei, Seiran (and by extension Nanzan) and Ju 87C were all dive/torpedo bombers so it could be up to the whim of the devs.

>>16254318
I feel that sooner or later jet torpedo bombers will be renamed jet fighter-torpedo bombers some time in the future like jet fighter-dive bombers. It wouldn't be right to automatically assume that all fighter-bombers are dive bombers, even for jets.

>>16254339
We already have a torpedo fighter-bomber.

>>16254346
Yeah, and it isn't the only example either. So if torpedo bombers ever become upgradable I wouldn't count out the possibility of the devs giving upgraded torp bombers extra AA as well.

It isn't a jet though, and finding WW2 jet torp bombers was already hard enough.

>>16254323
The torp bomber variant of Ju87 never really used though. Also Germans never really got their own aerial torpedo off the ground.

>>16254226
This is the power of jets.
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

>>16254283
Where exactly did it say this was a jet?
It's just another prop plane.
Heck, even the far more advance Skyraider was a prop plane, and it was used well beyond WW2.

>>16254346
Which plane is that?

It's under variants apparently:
XBTD-2
Prototypes with mixed propulsion, the additional Westinghouse 19B turbojet in rear fuselage giving 1,500 lbf (6.7 kN) thrust did not sufficiently improve performance. First flight May 1944. Two built.
A hybrid variant like the Fireball.

>>16254367
Re.2001 G Kai.

>>16254371
meant for>>16254361

>>16254361
The XBTD-2 variant had mixed propulsion.

Besides, I did say it was the closest one I could find.

>>16254357
Germany never made a carrier-capable variant of the FW-190 either, but that didn't stop Tanaka.
>>16254359
Go on and scrap it if you want-you'll be sorry when Tanaka rolls out the Essex Hime with Abyssal Phantom jet fighters.

>>16254378
>Go on and scrap it if you want
By now anyone who hasn't already learned that "you don't scrap any rare equipment or you'll regret it" is a retard.

So what was the pinnacle of piston fighters?

>>16254400
Sea fury for fighters.
Tigercat for twin engine heavy fighers.
A-1 for bombers/torpedo bombers I guess.
All carrier planes.

>>16254378
That's because Tanaka is shit. So much for his supposed love for obscure things. Graf's real upgrade carrier planes would have been this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blohm_%26_Voss_BV_155

>>16254435
>interceptor

>>16254445
>The Me 155 was intended to be based aboard the aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin, then under construction. In the interest of economy and simplicity, the Me 155 was to use as many Messerschmitt Bf 109 components as possible, being basically a navalized version of the earlier Messerschmitt fighter.

>>16254435
You're lucky Zepp even got her fantasy FW, Aquila didn't even come with her Re.2005.

>>16254378
But Essex even with SCB-125 could only roll out Corsairs. Phantom was viewed as too heavy a plane for it.

>>16254445
Graf Zeppelin zwei will be able to equip interceptors, actually making her useful.

>>16254445
It began life as a carrier plane. Also the Fw 190 was also an interceptor. Same thing with early jets.

>>16254455
It's not like Graf herself is great anyway.

http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/50216019.html

Translate please, rumors of possible sara K2?

>>16254461
Wrong Phantom dipshit. Use the image search for fuck's sake.

>>16254473
>K2
Devs will call Anglo ships Mk.III instead.

>>16254374

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.55

I wish they'd given us this one instead of a useless trophy plane. At least it would've had decent stats as a fighter (and possibly a torpedo fighter-bomber).

>>16254473
>Autumn
Why do faggots call it """""""""""""""""""Fall""""""""""""""""""", again?

>F4Fシリーズは装備更新で後継機のF6Fシリーズにも繋がっていく
HER WE GO HELLCATS.

Why is Yoshinori so based?

>>16254488
So how much AA for a basic, non-named one?

11?

>>16254495
So this is how Sara's launching works. It has two triggers, the first release the plane and it's moved up with the elevators, then pulling the second trigger launches the plane.

>>16254502
Abyssal one is +10, only as good as Reppuu.

>>16254506
Abyssal stats are hilariously inflated.

艦娘談話のコーナー
直近2つのイベントで実装された新艦娘の大きなイラストやデータを記載した「艦娘着任報告書」
こちらでCommandant Testeを担当されている声優がタニベユミさんであることが明らかとなりました

>タニベユミ
There's Teste's VA, Tanibe Yumi.

>>16254512
So +7? +8?

>>16254473
*Matsukaze is coming next
*F4F will be upgradable into F6F planes
*Saratoga is getting a remodel
*More land base planes
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu_Q1W
*New ships: Japanese sub, ship of a new type, Matsukaze and an escort carrier
*new stuff regarding foreign ships in general

>>16254518
Shitty sub nodes are coming and the only way to beat them will be land based ASW bombers.

>>16254532
Kill me now.

>>16254518
>そして丁型駆逐艦
That's Matsu-class, folks.

>>16254543
You're right, I'm retarded. It's a Matsu-class.

>>16254518
>乙型

More Akizuki-class, or the simplified variants?

>>16254543
>>16254556
Were they any good?

>>16254518
>Saratoga is getting a remodel
Any reason why?

>>16254562
Jets?

>>16254561
They were essentially DEs.

>>16254518
WHERE ARE THE PASTA REMODELS AT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16254562
So people will stop saying Yoshinori ships will never get a second remodel.

>>16254513
So, Poi is Coma-chan?

>>16254572
Yes.

>>16254562
Why do you think there was a catapult in play this event?

>>16254560
Akizuki-class.

・劇場版にはプロット＆コンセプトだけでなく脚本・設定・収録にも参加
・冒頭の夜戦の部分はたっぷり描けたけど、後半は尺の都合などで泣く泣く削った部分もあった

・来年早いタイミングで実装することが「朝風」のν艦を実現準備中
>*Matsukaze is coming next
This one? Not sure what it means.

・F4Fシリーズは装備更新で後継機のF6Fシリーズにも繋がっています
>*F4F will be upgradable into F6F planes
Yup.

・サラトガ自身にも新たな改装を計画
>*Saratoga is getting a remodel
Yup.

・噴霧式航空機は装備ではあるが純然たる戦闘機型も実装したい
>*More land base planes
It just says that jet fighters will be implemented. Nothing about land base planes (although technically you can put them in the land base as well).

・対潜哨戒マシンである「東海」も来年は実装したい
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu_Q1W
Yup.

・新艦娘は日本艦では潜水艦、乙型、それ丁型駆逐艦、さらに護衛空母の実装を予定
>*New ships: Japanese sub, ship of a new type, Matsukaze and an escort carrier
I think these will be the new subs, so just more of I-19's sisters.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/伊十五型潜水艦
DDs referred to here are Matsu-class DDs, not Matsukaze. Escort carriers seems right, but I get this feeling that they'll implement more than just one.

・来年の海外艦はおもしろいとこも用意しています
>*new stuff regarding foreign ships in general
Yup, more foreign ships next year.

>>16254584
>*Saratoga is getting a remodel
Yup.

holy shit

>>16254532
That looks suspiciously similar to the Ju88

>>16254584
Asakaze talks about her all the time.

>>16254584
Oh wait, scratch that. It's probably DDs that's 乙型 (so Akizuki-class) and not subs.

>>16254518
More land based shit.
I know the devs pretty much used up everything the IJN had when it came to actual naval warfare, but this is getting out of hand.

>Sara is getting a remodel

Are you kidding me, how fast did Bisko get her Zwei?

>>16254599
>land planes are not part of the IJN

>>16254518
>Japanese sub

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-201-class_submarine

I want to believe.

>>16254617
About a month after she was added.

Sara is going to need a catapult for the remodel. Then a quest for a catapult will show up in a maintenance after her kai ni, not at the same time.

>>16254622
That's fine, I still have the catapult from summer 15.

this is interesting enough

Sara's remodel is deffentaly meant to be added so that the shoukaku sisters are not the only ones who can handle the jets.

I think they might add in more jet planes to go along with what we have. I think we were also being used to test out how players would react to having to upgrade these jets.

I will be enjoying the tears of those who sank/scrapped Sara-chan.

>>16254595
Even her christmas line does, makes me think they were going to add her last event but decided it was 1 trophy too many.

>・来年早いタイミングで実装すべく「朝風」の僚艦を実装準備中
Ship/s in the same fleet with Asakaze coming early next year.

>・F4Fシリーズは装備更新で後継機のF6Fシリーズにも繋がっていく
F4F will be upgradeable to F6F.

>・Saratoga自身にも新たな改装を計画
Further remodel planned for Saratoga.

>・噴式航空機はif装備ではあるが純然たる戦闘機型も実装したい
A hypothetical (if) pure jet fighter with no bombing capability may be introduced.

>・対潜哨戒機である「東海」も来年は実装したい
ASW Tokai may be introduced.

>・新艦娘は日本艦では潜水艦、乙型、そして丁型駆逐艦、さらに護衛空母の実装を予定
New Japanese ships include SS, type-B and type-D destroyers

>・来年の海外艦はおもしろいところも用意していくことを予定
Next year's foreign ships will include "interesting choices".

>>16254617
>>16254621
Implemented: 2014 March 14
Zwei: 2014 June 20
Drei: 2014 September 26

>>16254629
>・新艦娘は日本艦では潜水艦、乙型、そして丁型駆逐艦、さらに護衛空母の実装を予定
>New Japanese ships include submarines, type-B and type-D destroyers and escort carriers.

>>16254518
>god tier white
>meh tier navy blue
>shit tier camo
Sara is ruined in less than a month, Kawakaze tier ruined.

>>16254629
>"interesting choices"

This is code for "literally whos" right?

>>16254629
So just to confirm, the 乙型 is for 駆逐艦 and not 潜水艦 right?

>>16254638
Here's hoping it's literally whos from new countries as opposed to literal whos from the big ones.

>>16254637
>Camo
>Bad
Enjoy being spotted nerd

>>16254629
>may be introduced
So we can discard them from the confirmed news.

>>16254637
Iowa has camo, you know. USN camo != IJN camo. For one thing it's blue, not green.

I wish they added another German sub so I could turn Yuu into a Mexican.

>>16254629
>>16254638
>>16254644
はおもしろいところ means interesting places, so it means foreign ships from interesting places.

>>16254663
>Mexican
Argentinian :^)

>>16254639
Yes

>>16254656
A more literal translation would be "Tanaka wants to introduce pure jet fighter and Tokai next year." So yeah, they're planned, but not as certain as F6F or Sara's remodel.

>>16254644
How about no.

So I'm supposed to be upgrading the F4F now right?

>>16254669
No

>>16254669
You probably wont be able to upgrade F6F and Sara will come with it at kai 2, so no.

The only halfway-relevant navy without a representative at this point is Australia, MAYBE Russia

>>16254562
Because she was one of the three pre-war, USN carriers to survive the war.

>>16254629
What are the first 2 lines?

>>16254630
Why does the wiki say Zwei was on April 23rd then?

>>16254473
Muh dick.

>>16254518
>ship of a new type
Playable Mamiya/Irako?

>>16254685
I don't know, I took the news from wikiwiki.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%BE%F0%CA%F3%C1%D2%B8%CB%2F%B1%BF%B1%C4%C4%C3%BC%E9%C9%DC%A4%AB%A4%E9%A4%CE%A4%AA%C3%CE%A4%E9%A4%BB%2F2014

But Bisko zwei was a blueprint remodel, and I'm 100% sure it wasn't the first blueprint remodel to be implemented (that's Tone-class kai 2).

>>16254682
Movie related stuff. Basically Tanaka was involved in its script, background setting, recording. A lot was cut from the movie's latter half.

>>16254689
Weird.
http://pastebin.com/txwvdFfC
>Tone, Chikuma and Bismarck received a second remodel, with Tone-class being reclassified as CAVs. This can be unlocked by using a special Blueprint item, obtainable by trading Extra Operation and Event maps badges.

-The next Kai 2 will be for a CA. Saratoga will also get a second remodel, along with F4F (Wildcat) planes being upgradable to F6F (Hellcat) planes.
-2017 will see foreign ships from "interesting places". Matsukaze and/or Hatakaze will also be implemented early that year.
-New submarines, Akizuki- and Matsu-class destroyers, and escort carriers are also under plans to be added.

>>16254669
Only if you love Sara like me.

>>16254663
I want das Boot as shipgirl.

>>16254689
The June 20 update was an increase in her Zwei stats, look at the April 23 update. Bisko Zwei is right there on the first line.

>>16254693
Will we finally get Fuyutsuki in the 2017 Winter event?
White hair or bust

>>16254703
Seems very likely

>>16254665
>はおもしろいところ means interesting places
Japan is interesting.

>>16254665
So we might actually get something stupid like finnish ships?

>>16254674
>Bearcats are literally in the game.
>Won't be able to upgrade F6F.

>>16254692
>>16254700
Fine, I messed that up.

>>16254711
Abyssal equipment is not shipgirl equipment.

>>16254708
Fug, meant おもしろいところ not はおもしろいところ

>>16254710
Probably the Dutch ships. Remember they were also part of ABDA. Also Australia but those are just an extension of British ships.

>>16254665
What countries with at least DDs or subs that weren't neutral in the war are left? USSR (Bep doesn't count), Finland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Greece, what else?

>>16254710
I would say Russian. But Russia is not an interesting place.

>>16254674
Not likely unless F6Fs give something absurd like 12 AA.

>>16254665
>>16254708
Fug, meant おもしろいところ not はおもしろいところ

>>16254728
Well current American planes have placebo stats. The F4F-4 is also a three star plane. So I guess F6F-3 will be 4 stars and F6F-5 will be 5 stars.

>>16254622
I hope they don't pull this shit again, what the fuck is the point in having them as rewards? What happened to exclusivity?

>>16254736
What if 6 stars again? Imagine the screw cost though.

>>16254737
The exclusivity lies in you having her at kai ni for months before the scrubs.

>>16254721
Netherlands and I guess Straya and Canada.

>>16254739
6 stars will be the bearcat or the XF6F-6.

>>16254737
The point is for the potential for dupes.

>>16254721
The Netherlands.
D in ABDA stood for Dutch.
I wouldn't call Russia an interesting place.

I've been levelling random DDs to 75 in hopes they get Kai Ni. I just finished Bono, who do I level next?

>>16254737
It's a status symbol or dupes. Don't be a dumbass.
That's something you can have that newfags won't. In fact it means you can afford to sink your cranes unlike newfags, or easyshitters.

>>16254737
There will never be exclusive remodels or ships so everyone can get them eventually.

Austro-Hungarian Navy when?

>>16254518
He just hates pastas, doesn't he?

>>16254674
>Won't be able to upgrade the F6F
>Literally two variants made it to production
F6F-3 to F6F-5.

>>16254760
They didn't exist anymore after WW1, so I doubt it.

>>16254757
>you can afford to sink your cranes unlike newfag
Son, instead of thinking like a shitter, think the other way around: you can lock cranes in some map and have another pair ready for the real hardass map.

Considering sinking when it comes to dupe like that is moronic

>>16254775
Well I don't really keep much dupes, due to having space only for 220 ships. So I don't really care to have dupes of cranes.

>>16254772
>you will never have a cute Szent Istvan in your office to cook you gulyas

>>16254763
Considering the Drifters anime, apparently there must be a few people in Japan that do.

>>16254737

Because otherwise the casuals would riot. Look at Shoukaku/Zuikaku now, with jets, not to mention the whole armoured carrier thing where they can still attack even in the orange. It's a pretty big part of the late-game/endgame meta, and denying a lot of people that option would be a pretty brutal move on their part.

I can understand the whole "exclusivity" thing, but when the power creep is very real, and the gear is an important part of that power creep, of course they're going to open it up to everyone at some point. Those of us who got the catapult during the event simply gain access to whatever the new stuff is earlier than everyone else, that's all.

Not to mention that this event effectively killed any sense of the rewards scaling according to difficulty, and, if anything, only seemed to punish players for choosing Hard, what with E-4 and the E-5 Hard-exclusive shiplock. I cleared everything on Hard anyway, but it didn't feel nearly as rewarding as, say, an all-Hard run during Spring or Summer. Especially since those 2 events gave us ridiculously good LBAS planes on Hard.

>>16254755
Amatsukaze.

Press F to pay your respects.

>>16254763
Why do you say this? There's more pasta ships than any other single foreign country and except one they are all above average for their ship type.

>>16254751
Maybe for Jap, Russia is interesting place for them?
They're neighbors after all.

> Tfw Fuyutsuki by Shibafu.

>>16254818
F

>>16254829
>They're neighbors after all.
If anything that would make them less interesting.

>>16254839
Be thankful that all of the elites would be handled by Yoshinori, you ungrateful Algerian.

Stop dropping bongs why are you doing this to me desire sensor let me get done with the cvls already

>>16254737
I hope you never design the game. In fact that's how you lose players.

>>16254869
>exclusivity
Which reminds me.

>>16254877
This and Reppuu Kai seriously need an update to get rid of the excess gloss.

>>16254869
This, the reason I'm playing KC at all is you can catch them all.

>>16254877
Don't forget the ranking reward planes.

>>16254686
Why did they chop it off and what is Akashi planning to do it?

>There won't be Kaga Kai Ni
>The catapult will be for Saratoga
>Kaga keeps falling in the ranking

Today is a good day

>make shit exclusive to oldfags
>muh poor game design
>don't make shit exclusive to oldfags
>muh power creep
How do we fix this lads?

>>16254915
You know, I wonder if the Midway will get PTSD in the 4-koma with the SBD?

>>16254917
There is nothing wrong with ranking rewards being exclusive.
Event rewards are another thing.

>>16254917
Add in coop for events.

>>16254917
I just want to know if I can make a spare set of cranes or not.

How fucking bizarre. The Ryuusei sprite in the scrapping menu 'breathes' like your secretary ship does.

I might be going insane.

>>16254918
Do they remember Midway in the 4-koma? They certainly do not in the game.

>>16254917
Power creep is inevitable since Tanaka is going for the historical accuracy angle. All they can do is carefully pick and choose what gets added without making it a pointless addition like torpedo bulges or underpowered like Zara or overpowered like Bismarck Drei.

>>16254929
I think you are

>>16254915
>>Kaga keeps falling in the ranking
Sara is better than her even without second remodel.

>>16254935
>Bismarck Drei
>overpowered
Top lel

Either I'm going senile, or IS THAT REALLY BEWBS?!

Will Matsu class have high speed or low speed? 27.3 for the original Matsu and 27.8 knots for the Tachibana type is the listed top speed for them.

>>16254957
Yep, he finally had the operation, take responsibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Kf-sq1Gbk

Demo with Kikka and Jet Keiun.

>>16254951
>2 remodels
>deemed so shit, you decide to fuse her with another ship

>>16254937
I'm not, I'm telling you!

>>16254637
>>16254654
>>16254662
The thing about Sara's Camo is that she along with many other USN ships switched back to measure 32 or to grey. Since Camo was deemed pointless against the special attack force.

God dammit.
I finally get the engines and it's past the Keiun upgrade window.

>>16254995
Yeah it's actually questionable if Saratoga will have her Camo or not.

>>16254665
>はおもしろいところ means interesting places, so it means foreign ships from interesting places.
Well, if it means anything, Brazil had some ships in WWII such as this BB. Could also be Dutch, Finnish, Turkish, etc

>>16254727
Russia is interesting; have you seen those dashcam videos?

>>16254935
Then just embrace the power creep.

Well considering Yoshinori has one of the LN's he draws for getting an anime next year, perhaps that's why USN ships will be slower to be implemented into the game.

>>16254931
Hiyou says "getting revenge for Midway" or something along those lines in the game, and I think early in the 4Koma Akagi gets some PTSD from someone mentioning Midway, but that's it.

>>16255027
I was talking about the carriers who participated in Midway. Should have clarified that. But I guess in the 4-koma Akagi sort of does.

Just what is the Royal Navy planning? I think they are up to no good.

>>16255004
>Well, if it means anything, Brazil had some ships in WWII such as this BB. Could also be Dutch, Finnish, Turkish, etc

I'm betting on Finnish, they love the Finn's in anime.

>>16255047
Yeah they seem to remember Netherlands, Finns and Swedes.

>>16255004
>Brazil
Kraut bullying soon.

>>16255047
As long as we get a kanmusu edit of this I'm happy

Why does Tanaka not give them the K2 they deserve?

Is she literally who enough to show up?

But how will Sara even equip jets? Is she literally drawing on the power of her successor?

>>16255080
Blueprint + catapult remodels :^)

>>16255080
A catapult?

>>16255080
Sekrit blueprints)))

Why can't the devs make medals from EOs exchangeable for catapults, damn it.

>>16255080
Well they did do studies on her and apparently she could have fit jets with folding wings easily in her hangar due to it being high.

>>16255072
>deserve
Only Akagi deserves it.

>>16255079

That wouldn't be so bad. It was true that she was arguably the most powerful DD in Europe when the war broke out.

Dive bombers. What are they even good for?

>>16255112

Only for support expeditions and for meme stuff like Spring event.

Kill yourself Tanaka.

>>16255112
4-5 so carriers don't attack Wanko.

>>16255112
Ekusas for support expeditions, the rest are trash.

>>16255108
No mighty japenese torps folded a thousand times always means shit yasen damage.

>>16255136

Prinz Eugen disagrees.

I wouldnt expect her to reach Poi levels of FP though because muh nightmare of the Solomons.

>Japanese Torpedo Bias
>Japanese Torpedo Plane Bias
When will the nips admit they lost the war

>>16255136
Good, we need less shit ships and more dedicated AA ships or an equivalent to Asashio K2D without needing marriage.

>>16255145

I don't care if they lost or won thee war. I want muh Sunday Punch with which they wrecked so many ships.

>>16255145
The TBD was shit.
That said the Italian torpedoes were good at that start of the war.

http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=10580492
According to the chink translations, Tanaka wants to implement both "if" and actual historical jet fighters. Though the translator didn't catch the part about Asakaze's colleagues.

And it seems that most of the plans are set for the 4th and 5th years of the game's life.

>>16255145
Wait for Victory Belles

>>16255143
Even fucking Laffey or Johnston wouldn't reach retardachi levels of FP because muh solomons.

>>16255145
>bias
>so good it indirectly sunk Choukai

>>16255004
Turkey didn't take part at the war, I doubt it'd get in. Or at least any time soon.

>>16255145
IIRC nip torp planes weren't that good either.

>>16255158
That shitheap didn't get funding, did it..?

>>16255145
Because the Type 93 was the best surface torpedo of the war.
British and Americans would reach the Japanese Aerial torpedo though.
On submarines, while you need a capable torp, doctrine also matters a lot.

>>16255165

They introduced a succesor to the B5N too late. The Tenzan and later the Ryuusei could have been excellent torpedo bombers but without fighter cover they were the most vulnerable attack planes of any air strike, just as the Avengers or the Devastators.

By the time they were introduced, the murricans had already completely ooutmatched the Zero with their Hellcats.

>>16255172
And it never will.
>>16255165
I thought they had a capable bomber in the Ryuusei. The actual problem with aerial torpedo bombing comes from the inherent faults of aerial torpedo bombing anything other than a submarine.

>>16255172
We're lucky Tanaka had a clear vision of what he wanted.

>>16255172
It did. I don't know the status of it though.

>>16255180
Please don't post that shit here. It makes Chinkcolle look good.

>>16255175
Apparently early on in the game they got shot down more often if you didn't get AS or AS+, is that true?

>>16255180
The rigging is so off-model they completely missed the point.

>>16255180
Why in the fuck give Kitakami an axe?

Actually, why do so many have cutting weapons of some sort?
This is awful.

>>16255185

That was a missconception back when people didn't fully understand how air combat was. Now we know that people used to put torpedo bomber in the biggest slots and dive bombers in the smaller slots.

Since loses from opening air combat are based on a percentage, the bigger slot received a bigger loss of planes than an smaller slot.

>>16255201
Because she is a cut-in ship, you get it?

>>16255202
Huh, alright, thanks.

>>16255172
>>16255182
I've lost additional bit of hope in humanity I didn't know I had.

>>16255201
Golf is still my favorite.

Do jet planes get chevrons?

>>16255201
>torpedo cruiser
>give her more guns than torpedo tubes

>>16255209
As it happens I just scrolled past it.

Pass the bleach.

>>16255211
Yes. Fifteen'ish 1-1 runs should max them out.

Fuck, I just heard new Akashi's workshop bgm. So fucking hyped.

>>16255219
Well shit, there's absolutely nothing memorable about her.

>>16255209

I never doubted they'd get funded. I mean, there are enough EOPeasants who want everything they consume in english yet want to get weeb shit so 30k was a pretty tame goal.

What I wanted to know was wether they'd fix their horrible chara design.

Well, that's just another game I'll try joitly with Warship girls if it ever gets an english localization, which wouldn't surprise me.

>>16255219
Who the fuck is that?

Can someone repost that table about steel loses per battle from jets?

>>16255225
They haven't shown any gameplay. I'm not sure they'll be able to create something playable.

>>16255219
The feet looks really off.

>>16255209
>>16255219
>a good deal of the backers were Japs
>there are nips that actually believe shit like this deserves to exist

>>16255227
That is Chiyoda, can't you tell? That ship just reeks of golf, after all.

>>16255209
>$100k
>1000 backers

People giving them $100 on average sounds like bullshit to me.

>>16255242

I've seen people donate 2k dollars to streamers out of the blue so it doesn't surprise me.

>>16255221
It's new? It sounds the same to me.

>>16255242
More likely, they found a few "whales".

>>16255220
Thanks anon. I still have the w3 weekly to do so I can just bring turkey there.

>>16255247
There's a new one that should play when making jets I think.

>>16255247
Oh, it's birth of the jets theme.

>>16255234
>The feet looks really off.
Then perhaps their depiction of Surcouf would please you more?

Help yourselves to the project tumblr page if you want more, I won't shit up the thread more than is necessary.

>>16255242
You'd be surprised what kind of money wagies with nothing else in their life will throw around

>>16255252
Be prepared for infinite error messages if you use >Kc3
It seems the app doesn't know how to handle the new API strings.

>>16255257
forgot the picture

>>16255265
I don't use viewers but thanks for the warning.

>>16255268
Whoever thought this was a good idea is retarded.

>>16255268
>yet another sword
This is what taking inspiration from Ayaki gets you.

>>16255219
Their bucky looks kind of cool, but the other ships were generally inducing varying degrees of puke as I scrolled through. Stereotypes, stupid hats/accessories - I never noticed how well and subtle at the same time the original can-this pulls it all of.

If I chevron my Keiun and then upgrade to jet, will it lose the rank?

>>16255285

yes.

>>16255288
Shit. Thanks anyway.

>>16255268
>webbed heels

What drugs are they using?

>>16255276
Their Scharnhorst doesn't look completely terrible, salvageable at worst.

You do know what this is.

>>16255308
It's shit.

>>16255276
Even Fubuki doesn't make any sense. Their version is like a textbook sword girl with snow themed gear. How the fuck can they even call that a ship girl?.

>>16255220
>sparkling jets on 1-1
costanza.jpg

>>16255308
Of course, it is posted every thread.
Sometimes several times per thread.

>Saratoga gets K2
Will we still get Enterprise?

>>16255336
Enterprise is the ultimate hype machine, they'll bring her when running out of options.

>>16255344
Kind of the strongest characters that can be unlocked after newgame+?

>>16255350
Kind of like having to play all routes of a VN before unlocking the route of the girl you actually like.

>>16255350
She is basically the former last boss who only joins you at the last stage of video game and even if you have carefully min-maxed and given the correct skills to all your characters, she ends up outclassing most if not all your party anyway.

>>16255350
So basically a special character in Kancolle small c II for pre-registered Kancolle small c I players?

>>16255235
It was shilled pretty hard in Japan with things like "doing things our competition wont do", which I'm guessing is more foreign ships right out of the box and muh native languages, but most see it as a laughably bad ripoff with questionable design and art.

>>16255308
Dat magic bowstring.

>>16254367
Tenzan 12 Tomonaga and Murata

>>16255344
>Enterprise is the ultimate hype machine

So literally Half-Life 3?

>>16254637
Has there ever been a time when a K2 DIDN'T cause massive amounts of butthurt?

>>16254561
Great ASW (possible innate oASW) and good AACI (better than non-Akizuki-class DDs). Shit firepower and torpedo.

>>16255458
Kitakami!

>>16255458
Shigure.

>>16255458
Zuikaku would've been it, but
>longkaku

>>16255157
>most of the plans are set for the 4th and 5th years
Why is anyone even excited?

>>16254663
I wish they introduced another german sub so I could finally sortie someone worthy along Ro-chan.

Quick, where do I farm carrier kills?

>>16255482
Yes.

>>16255482
Just over there buddy.

>>16255482
2-1

>>16255482
5-5

>>16255480
Good news!

>>16255473
>longkaku
Aesthetic?

>>16255496
But Hachi is a phony.

>>16255479
This game will be 4 years old next year. It isn't even that far into the future.

>>16255499
Her day 1 sprite had the wrong aspect ratio, was patched eventually after Conishi pointed it out.

I love meat!

>>16255508
Funny enough, the little rectangle still has her narrow head.

>>16255518
Looks fine to me, when's the last time you deleted your cache?

>>16255496
Hachi has 49 evasion, she sucks.

>>16255508
Oh man, I remember that, that look reminded me of benedict cumberbatch

Who are you guys leveling up for the next event?

>>16255526
Oh, is that it? I don't remember actually.

>>16255530
Saratoga. I will inflict the curse of Benedict Arnold on all who oppose me.

>>16255530
Sara-nee is already at 90 for me and Aoba is around 70 and I plan to get her to at least 75 so I don't have much to do except continuing getting these worthless jets.

>>16255480
How about an American submarine then? Like Albacore?

>>16255530
Dupe Maya and Dupe Akitsumaru.

I honestly find it funny that some of the Japanese players find the nickname Sara Maru to be cute.

>>16255530
my right arm
To busy in idleColle

>>16255544
They find all those nicknames cute, they especially love Sister Sara it seems.

>>16255530
>10 pages of girls at level 90+
>5 at 99+
>nobody left besides Kinu, Sara and Teste

>>16255539
Cool, as long as she can actually avoid hits, kill CVLs and doesn't take three hours to repair.

>>16255539
USS Cavalla or bust.

>>16255552
5 pages of 99+?

>>16255554
Albacore can even kill armored CVs :^)

>>16255554
Well she killed Taihou and Tenryuu. Though Taihou was a true fluke. She also sunk ooshio and Sazanami with faulty torpedoes somehow.

I need this.

>>16255568
>Taihou was a true fluke
There was no fluke, Taihou was a mess, a big fat mistake.

>>16255568
How about seaplanes? I hope she wouldn't have a chance to become SSV. I already have enough LoS mules in Shioi, Hachi, Iku and Nimu, I want a sub that is useful combat-wise.

>>16255573
Rude, she's not fat.

>>16255563
this is a pretty great album, did they create any other music since then?

>>16255579
>combat-wise
>subs
You're not getting far with all the ASW.

>>16255573
She was the best IJN design though. One of the few IJN carriers that had an upright smokestack. Also wasn't Ark royal lost to one torpedo too?

>>16255571

There is a doll fag thread here in /jp/ so they'll probably know better, but it doesn't look that good to me.

>>16255579
American submarines had more extensive radar equipment and thus did not need seaplanes. They were slower to dive than the German submarines but made up for it by detecting their enemies earlier. Also I think they were faster at diving than Japanese submarines. They also had air condition.

>>16255580
Her farts sure were

>>16255600

They were much more silent too.

>>16255600
That sounds like good evasion stats and nice placebo torps. Exactly what I want.

>>16255639
speaking of placebo torps, what's the point of the torps on the taisho girls?

those 53cm tubes are just that bad?

>>16255639
>wasting valuable foreign ship space on a sub
>just because you are too cheap to use a bucket

>>16255639
You will get a crappy torp if any. But the submarine will have a high torp stat at kai. Though only if it's Sealion II, Albacore, Harder and a few others.

>>16255530
Everyone I have.

Should I even bother to fight the 5-4 boss with fleet in this shape?

>>16255643
I doubt they were bad. They just couldn't fit the type 93 torpedo.

>>16255656
No no, I mean in game.

>>16255643
I want to scrap them so bad but rocket launchers gave me paranoia.

>>16255661
They are old torpedoes.

>>16255530
Other than the new ships, pretty much just farming fodder.

Doge is coming for that boat booty!

if you change the i in iowa for another o and then read iowa backwards what would happen

>>16255731
cant spell iowa without WASSHOI!

>>16255731
fantastic post

>>16255731
AWOL? Can't expect better form Burgers I guess.

>>16255731
Anon, you're a genius.

>>16255731
>16255731
Yes.

>>16255731

>>16255751
He said for another O not an L.

>>16254518
What does an escort carrier even do? I always thought Akitsu Maru was exactly that.

>>16255731

God damm it anon.

>>16255731
AWOO?

>>16255731
I don't get it. It just reads Ah woo.

>>16255799

Party's OVER.

>>16255799
>>16255808
exactly

>>16255792
Hunt and sink submarines, mostly. The USN also used escort carriers to back up the USMC in their island-hopping campaign.

>>16255792
Hunt submarines. Support landing operations. They mainly work in areas where you have Air superiority.

>>16255731
Best kancolle general post in fucking months
Top shelf
god damn

>>16255839
Your general must be really shit then, I never posted on /jp/ before and just came here to post that thought I had.

>>16255853
Not really, it's not that bad.
It's much worse.

>>16255853
it's a game general, of course it's shitty

>>16255853
This entire board can get pretty shit, and of course game generals are bad.

>>16255859
>>16255864
>>16255877
But only patricians like Kancolle.
I thought the general could be on pair with the title.

>>16255897
>only patricians like Kancolle
Are you kidding me? With all these Bongo-, Kaga-, Poi- and shitgurefuckers?

>>16255853
It's just that your post was fresh so it had a strong impact. Variety can be good.

>like Greenkaku
>don't want to change to K2A

>>16255926
>not having a dupe for that express purpose

>>16255918
I thought the only people who liked Poi dog anymore were on /a/.

>>16255926
>liking vomit

>>16255926
I'm in the same boat. Even more so as she has my ring. At least remodel Shoucucku.

>>16255942
>>>/pol/

Which Potato is your favorite?

>>16255942
>Shoucucku
Shoukaku is a good girl!
>>16255945
The fuck does this have to do with /pol/?

>>16255952
His need to stuck "cuck" everywhere. Shitposting in short.