/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>16080306
What does it say about my skill level if I can't 1cc MoF even using the MarisaB bug?

>>16080313
I think what it really says is that you're not trying. Then again, without knowing how long you've been working on it or what kind of background you have, who can say?

>>16080320
No 1ccs, played ESoD, PCB and IN for a good while. Think I cleared them all with a continue or two, got a few bad ends. Before that run in MoF I had played it for a good hour or two and couldn't pass stage 4, this is probably what fucked me over along with freaking out on the last boss and flopping between trying to dodge bullets or abuse the glitch.

>>16080367
'A good while' is pretty vague, but if you're not a regular shmup player, expect to spend weeks to months on your first 1cc. Of course you can't do it right away. Practice a bit each day, learn from your mistakes, and you'll manage it eventually.

threadly reminder that talent is everything and the only people denying this are the egoistic talented cunts themselves or people who never truly tried to get good scores

>>16080636
isn't*

post progress

>>16080367
Stage 4 on Normal is pretty hard for a new player. The difficulty is always amped up there.

>>16080660
Why aren't there both endings for IN?

>>16080795
idk, I didn't make the chart. I 1cced Lunatic on both routes with Border and Magic, though.

>>16080660
>no PC98 games
>no way to differentiate between a win and a 1CC

>>16080840
>no way to differentiate between a win and a 1CC
huh?
Only 1cc are marked on such charts
>>16080660

>>16080849
>Only 1cc are marked on such charts
That's incredibly limiting. I want to be able to show 1CC and 2CC.

>>16080851
Then just add XCC on said square like anon did with his NMNB runs.
When I get pacifist done I'll just add a symbol to deflect that.

>>16080840
The only PC-98 game I've 1cced was LLS. I tried out its Hard mode and 1cced it first try. I'm just too lazy to add it to the chart.

And yes, I'm only marking down 1ccs. I don't count continued clears as achievements.

>>16080660
Updated it most recently last thread. Probably going to take a break from Touhou for a few days to speed through the leaked new Pokémon game though.

>>16080851
Because continued clears are defo achievements you should be proud of.

>>16080851
Why? 2CC is not a "win", it's a failed run.

You get the bad ending, meaning you failed. Game Over.
The only reason it lets you continue is so that you can practice stuff that's further ahead.
But a 2CC is absolutely worthless, so I don't see why you would even want to mark that.

>>16080893
To get any ending is a win.
In the over five years I've played touhou, I've only gotten two 1CCs on easy, so to think a normal 2CC is not a win is outrageous.

>>16080840
>no way to differentiate between a win and a 1CC

A win is a 1CC.
What's there to differentiate?

>>16080898
>To get any ending is a win

Except the game outright tells you it's not.
If you use a continue you get the Bad Ending.
You fucked up and failed whatever it was you were trying to accomplish.
The red mist is still there, the spring didn't come etc.

And the game tells you, try again.
How exactly can you think that's a "win"?

>>16080917
>How exactly can you think that's a "win"?
Because you see the credits.

>>16080898
Define "played", talk about low standards.

>>16080932
Played as in playing the games.

>>16080898
Nobody is that bad. I'm terrible at video games, but even I was able to go from zero shmup experience to a Normal 1cc in six months. You're either lying, purposely trying to fail, or afflicted with some kind of physical disorder, but in any case, your experience doesn't apply to anyone else.

>>16080974
I'm just bad at video games.

>>16080660
Not much. Just routing for 2.055b+ Hard MariC now, 2.06b would be nice to have.

Does /jp/ not know about bait?
Because this is all what this retard is doing.

I'm managing to really improve on Youmu in practice mode. As Reimu and Sakuya she's manageable. As Marisa I find it hard to compensate for her speed when she comes out of the slowdown, I'll crash right into a bullet. Inexplicably, I don't even have stage 5 unlocked for practice as MariB. I've been trying to get on that but I find myself messing up in really awful ways, enemy collisions, so I've just been focusing on practicing the later stages. I can manage to get through 4 relatively unscathed.
Her cards are becoming easier, I managed to capture most of them, in fact. Five Signs is deceptively easy. Most of her spellcards are deceptively easy desu. The slowdown thing just messes me up. Her nonspells are getting to be more manageable, it's way too easy to fuck up though.

Captures in practice mode don't go towards your total, do they?

I'm having the most trouble with Fantasy of Enlightenment. Once I get the hang of stage 5 a 1cc will soon follow, I imagine. I've already reached Yuyuko three times, but I'll usually be drained from Youmu. The closest I've been was entering stage 6 with 4 lives as ReimuB, getting through it with zero misses, only to get clam up and make some very stupid mistakes on Yuyuko. I made it up to Swallowtail Butterfly. She is way way easier than Remilia imo.

Improvement feels good.

>>16081189
>I'm having the most trouble with Fantasy of Enlightenment

Seriously? That's what you're having trouble with?
What about 200 Yojana in a Flash? I would imagine that's her hardest spellcard.

Fantasy of Enlightenment is just position yourself on one of the sides and slowly stream it to the other side.
If you do it properly you won't even have to restream it. Hell, you won't even get close to the other side.

>>16081231
>200 Yojana in a Flash
That one is pretty intense, but I guess I clicked with it faster. Towards the end it gets harder though, I didn't exactly master it but I've definitely got the hang of it. With Fantasy of Enlightenment I have a tendency to not notice the bullets coming up towards me. I'll try streaming it from the side of the screen, though, I've always been starting in the center-ish like a chode.

Haven't played Touhou in a while, so I stole your thing >>16080874 and modified it to my liking.
I'm hoping that'll give me some motivation.

I have all the normal 1ccs and extras for all the games, but I'm not gonna bother to mark them.
I'll go for no bomb runs on normal and that will take care of the 1ccs as well.
I will mark the hard 1ccs though, if I get them.

So yeah, started with EoSD for now.

>>16081324
The saddest thing about this was that I somehow failed to grab the extra life from midboss sakuya in stage 5.
It just sorta got covered in bullets and I got scared, so it fell down.
Still ended with 3 extra lives though.

>>16081306
>With Fantasy of Enlightenment I have a tendency to not notice the bullets coming up towards me

Ignore the red bullets and focus on the ones coming from the bottom.
The red ones are aimed at you, so you'll always know where they'll be even without looking at them.
So as long as you keep slowly moving, you know they're not gonna hit you.

>>16080313
It says go play Lunatic Legacy LoLK until you get your dodging together.
How DID you die the bullets can't even reach you.

Which bullets do you hate the most? Mine are definitely curved/diagonal lasers and those long pellet/jelly bean shaped ones.

>>16081866
Any laser outside of EoSD, big balls (not bubbles) in EoSD, any brand of glowshit and DS onwards jelly beans.

>>16081866
All of them.

>>16081866
EoSD: Sakuya's knives
IN: Kaguya/Mokou's fire balls and the jelly beans
MoF: Those tiny as fuck projectiles Sanae likes to throw around
UFO: Curvy lasers, of course.
TD: ARROWS, any of Mamizou's shit.
DDC: I would say tiny shit again, but those musical cues are even worst
LoLK: Stars.

>>16081866
The tiny white balls.

>>16081866
Stars, stars, aaaaand stars.

24m improvement.

>>16081134
I don't know what to say, to prove I'm bad at games. Take your ``it's bait'' back to /b/.

>>16082085
"Playing for 5 years" means nothing if you don't tell us how much of those 5 years was actually spent playing. Post some score pages with time played. If you have something absurd like 100 hours played on a game and only managed to 1cc easy, seek help. At that point your reaction time/hand eye coordination/pattern recognition are at a point bad enough that it could impact your daily life.

>>16082085
Even if you played for "5 years" you seem to lack devotion and the will to challenge yourself.
Playing a run on easy every now and then and quitting after failing in stage 4 is not serious play.
To truly win you must go full shmup.

>>16081134
>anyone who isn't as talented as I am is baiting
Fucking /v/ "hardcore gamer" cancer.

>>16082586
Sorry but as >>16082503 pointed out, you must have some sort of problem to not get result in such long time or yeah, be baiting.

>>16080306
This happened today while I was fighting Flandre.
I'm still salty that I didn't use that bomb, but I can feel it, I'm so close!

Reformatted hard drive recently and forgot to back up and hus, is there any torrent or mega or whatever I should consider for getting all the games at once or someting

>>16082586
It's hilarious how you are calling other people "/v/ cancer" while greentexting on the same sentence lmao.

>>16082003
Amazing, congrats. World Record soon!

I did it. It's fucking donion rings.

Never in my life, and I genuinely mean it, never in my life have I ever actually "heard" every heart beat that was occurring in my chest like when I got to her final spell card. I say without a doubt this is the hardest video game related thing I've ever done in my entire fucking life.

I'm like, actually done with touhou for a while until the next one comes out. Beating this raised my spirits and I feel so fucking alive right now.

>>16082837
Dude I think I saw you on /v/ yesterday, you gave me a few tips. If I can do it, I know you can too. I believe in you.

>>16084220
Woops, meant to use this.

>>16084220
>>16084228
Dude, calm down.
It's just EoSD extra stage, no big deal really.

I would imagine most people here can easily do a no bomb, no miss extra run, without breaking a sweat.

>>16084388
>I would imagine most people here can easily do a no bomb, no miss extra run, without breaking a sweat.

So? That's no reason belittle his achivement.

>>16084220
Well done my dude, congrats!
What will you do now that you beat it?

>>16084388
I'm garbage at video games and especially bullet hells. Doing something like this just feels good.

>>16084524
Continue my backlog.

So, what are Last Words, and how do I get them?
Is it like TD's Overdrive, or is it me beating them with every team?

>>16086093
Each Last Word has an unlock condition, as seen here.
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Imperishable_Night:_Last_Word_Spell_Cards

And Last Words are similar to Overdrives, except instead of being more difficult versions of existing cards, they're all entirely new cards.

>>16086109
Which one's the real Marisa?

>>16083045
>greentexting is a /v/ only thing
I know you're desperately trying to grasp at some false sense of superiority, but this is laughably pathetic lmao.

>>16084388
>I would imagine most people here can easily do a no bomb, no miss extra run, without breaking a sweat.
I very much doubt a wide majority could do that.

>>16086128

Are players meant to take out Marisa's shield manually before it explodes in SoEW, or is it unfeasible? I can't seem to do it, and I'm wondering if I'm just bad.

>>16086391
You don't have to in order to beat her, but it's completely possible.

>>16086414
Right, I know it's not needed, but I'd just like to end that fight as quickly as possible to minimize casualties. I'm really questioning how the hell I got a 1cc in this game in the first place with the hitbox size and lack of focus. I mean, it was my first 1cc so I didn't know how much those things were improved in later games but still.

Is it possible to pacifist ANY Retro Era Game?

>>16086559
The only retro era game that you can't is HRtP, I believe.
I know for sure that you can do so in 3-5.

>>16084388
I can NMNB the extra, but I break into sweat on the final spell all the same...

>>16086109
A shame the link on Moriya has them all unlocked already.

>>16086972
You know you can just delete the score file, right?
Unless you hate fun, I guess.

>>16086562
I'm pretty sure SoEW is not actually doable. I've been sitting on the flower tank for ~10 minutes, and it doesn't seem to time out at all. I could be just incompetent, though.

Am I a dumb fag for wanting to use a fight stick to play Touhou? Am I better off keyboarding it?

>>16087215
Remember when hitboxes got banned on competitive fighting games because you could press both left and right at the same time? Well, it's better to switch to any position without having to go to a neutral position in danmaku, only a keyboard (or a hitbox) will give you that advantage.

>>16086296
I only said you were cancer lmao, but whatever makes you feel less retarded i guess.

Probably not exactly on topic, but I remember /jp/ having a thread about touhou games, containing links to RPGMaker ressources. Anyone has it?

>>16087215
you can play touhou with stick if you want, afaik stg players usually use different sticks than fighting game players though. Ones that are less sensitive I believe

>>16087215
I got myself a stick purely for stg, by default the hori mini I got had a far too long deadzone, making some junko quick zig zags impossible to pull off. Even after modifying the stick to halve the deadzone, kb is much easier to play with imo. It's definitely fun to play with as it's something different and feels nice to use, but doesn't perform as well.

What's the hardest game in each difficulty setting?
Including Extra

>>16087215
Unless you want to become the next pcb superplayer it won't matter too much what you use.

>>16087804
What if I do want to be the next PCB superplayer?

>>16088316
Get a keyboard.

I feel that I have hit a huge wall.
Going from normal to hard in every game feels like I'm playing a completely new series, it is quite a beautiful yet painful event, much like a birth.
Is this normal?

>>16088719
>Is this normal?
No, it's hard. Weren't you paying attention?

>>16084220
I know you can too. I believe in you.

I FUCKING DID IT M8, SHE'S DEAD AS SHIT.
HOLY FUCK, IT WAS JUST LIKE YOU SAID, I HEARD EVERY FUCKING HEARTBEAT DURING HER LAST SPELLCARD. FUCK.

DUDE I'M FINALLY FREE!
.
Now I can finally relax and play something else, but for some reason, whenever I try to put down these games and try something different, I always come back for some more, no matter how tired I am. Anyone else feel that way?

>>16086972
Really?
My scorefile only gave me all the characters, not all the Last Words.

>>16084220
>I know you can too. I believe in you.

I FUCKING DID IT M8, SHE'S DEAD AS SHIT.
HOLY FUCK, IT WAS JUST LIKE YOU SAID, I HEARD EVERY FUCKING HEARTBEAT DURING HER LAST SPELLCARD. FUCK.

DUDE I'M FINALLY FREE!
.
Now I can finally relax and play something else, but for some reason, whenever I try to put down these games and try something different, I always come back for some more, no matter how tired I am. Anyone else feel that way?

>>16087788
Phantasm: PCB

TD routing: Which character is the best to use for 1cc? I keep on getting Game Over'd by Futo with everyone EXCEPT Sanae, and I lose on the midboss with her. It's near the beginning, not the FIRST nonspell, but somewhere after that.
The way I see the characters with their shottypes:
Reimu: Easy
Sanae: Normal
Marisa: Hard
Youmu: Lunatic

Final thing: Like Kogasa, I keep on timing out on "Heal by Desire" and "Saved up Desire". what should I do on either of those? (I want to CAPTURE the spells)

>>16089225
>Misses: 7
Um, dude I don't know how to tell you this but...

I hope you didn't make the same mistake >>16084220 ?

>>16089259
>Which character is the best to use for 1cc?

Reimu, for me.

>"Heal by Desire"

You can't kill the spirits, or they'll spawn a bunch of health for her.
Just don't shoot when you're not under her.

>"Saved up Desire"

You need to go past the lasers and collect the spirits she spawns.
You can go around her in a circle, but try not to get too close so you don't collide with her.
The more you gather the less health she'll recover.

>>16089259
For me it is
Reimu: Easy
Youmu: Normal
Sanae: Hard
Marisa: Lunatic
Since I got my 1cc with the first 2 but with Sanae I always die to Miko.

>>16089321
>I hope you didn't make the same mistake
What do you mean by that? What mistake are you talking about?

>Misses: 7
The extra Misses are a result of deathbombing, try it yourself if you don't believe me.

>>16089472
I thought you set your lives to more than the default. I forgot EoSD records deathbombs as misses.
In that case you're in the clear.

>>16089387

Take LSD play Marisa

>tfw lost to Moko's last card
>covered in sweat
>headache
Yeah too green etc but fuck that, almost got her.
I'm going to get that extra clear very very soon.

>>16089259
>Youmu: Lunatic
The way she trivializes Seija alone disqualifies her from that title.
I would personally say its:
Reimu: Easy
Youmu: Normal
Marisa: Hard
Sanae: Shit

>>16089689
>Sanae: Shit
I don't know, she allows for faster Spirit Realm entries, making her really helpful in later stages.

>>16089689
>TD
>Seija

Nigger, what?

Why is this stage so fun?

>>16089934
hiroshimoot pls implement

>>16089940
That is a glitched spellcard tho...
Implement Lunatic ones

>>16089934
I imagine it would be fairly easy to program a computer to play Touhou, compared to other games at least.

Does mashing the fire button in SoEW to increase fire rate count as cheating, or is it fair play? It's not MoF Marisa-B levels of game breaking but it does kill bosses a lot faster than otherwise. I know top players abuse exploits all the time, but obviously the most broken shit like MoF is frowned upon by most, and I don't know where button mashing in SoEW falls.

>>16084388
There are people here that aren't from #kusoplay.

>>16089963
That webm already looks like a computer trying to do it, as it got walled pretty easily lacking foresight (it's probably just a TAS, though).

>>16089225
My nigga. I knew you could do it.

>>16080660
taken from >>16081324 mostly.
Black dot is NMNB, white dot is just NB.

Currently trying an SA LNM, but filling this out made me remember I set out to get an IN LNB with solo Youmu at some point, I may go for that again after SA.

>>16081866
I hate every single bullet in LoLK. Rest notes in DDC are pretty bad, too.

>>16090202
Please respond, I'm putting off practice so that I don't set bad habits if it's banned.

>>16090648
No one really cares what you do in SoEW, because no one plays it.

>>16090668
Alright then. I knew the PC-98 games don't have anyone keeping track of high scores, I just wanted to check anyway just in case this ended up being a huge no-no like unpatched Marisa-B in MoF.

>>16090648
Doesn't the max rate of damage cap out at some point? If it isn't broken, I'd say that using autofire or just mashing really fast is fine.

I know there are some shmups where if you set the autofire rate to really fast, it will kill bosses in seconds though.

>>16090672
Bosses die in about half the time they normally would when I mash. I'm using Reimu-C and it seems like you don't want to mash too fast anyway, just fast enough that the lasers come out at the maximum rate (there's a tiny delay between pressing fire and the piercing lasers coming out). I definitely wouldn't use autofire.

>>16090683
>perform great up to Marisa
>get to Marisa with max power
>able to destroy her shields easily with piercing lasers
>die
>can't do jack shit to her shields for the rest of the match

I think I'm starting to understand the actual strengths and weaknesses of the shottype I chose. I probably should have read up on it instead of coming to the realization naturally. I didn't realize SoEW was so stingy on boss pickups relative to later games in the series, and I again have to wonder how I got a 1cc for this game when I was so inexperienced.

>>16090439
You should really add a key to that.

>>16092711
>>16090439
Actually, here, have you covered.
I've been meaning to add a key for stuff like this at some point anyway, will probably expand this in the future.

>>16084220
>>16089225
Congrats, m8s. I had similar experiences with EoSD. Especially that "hearing every heartbeat" when I'm close to doing something amazing. The feeling will probably return when you're about to beat PCB Extra.

It's funny. Even though I've got some pretty big achievements irl, I still consider my touhou 1CCs as the biggest.

>>16092769
Ah, thank you, it was kinda late and I noticed after posting it it missed a key.

Why the FUCK is Marisa hitbox so fucking FAT! I cant deal with it.

>>16093292
FLAT*

Who the fuck said Utsuho is easier than Orin? I went into stage 6 with 8 lives and came out with none remaining. A lot of those were stupid deaths, but still, Utsuho is so much more difficult.

What a rush though. SA is a fun game. The difficulty gap between MoF and SA is insane. It took me one day to 1cc MoF while I needed two weeks for SA.

>be me
>play 2hu sometimes
>think I got a bit good
>go on /jp/
>see people like >>16080874 and >>16090439
>get disappointed in life
How do you guys do it? I can only 1CC PoFV and IN on ez modo.

>>16093524

>>16093527
My bad, I'm not usually hanging out on /jp/.

>>16093527

>>16090202
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Story_of_Eastern_Wonderland/Translation/Manual
>Holding it will allow for auto-shooting, but rapidly tapping it will allow shots to be fired a bit more rapidly.With this, you can defeat bosses quickly.

It doesn't seem to be a bug

>>16093524
I posted that first chart you linked to, and the answer to how I got as (relatively) good as I am is practice. Lots, and lots, and lots of practice. Play every single day, even if you can only find fifteen minutes of free time. Building up a habit of playing the game daily and NOT taking long breaks that are weeks if crucial. When I first tried getting into Touhou, I had no discipline and would stop for weeks or even months, and despite playing on and off for nearly a year I barely improved. When I got my shit together and start playing daily, even if only for short bursts, I got my first 1cc in a month.

And never play on Easy Modo, always on Normal or higher. I'm not just saying this for memes, if you only play on Easy you'll never really push yourself. You want things to be hard for you; if you can't beat the Stage 4 boss on Normal without continues, just keep practicing, your reflexes and pattern recognition skills will get better over time, and you'll eventually be able to get to Stage 5, and then the Stage 5 boss, and so on until you've cleared the final boss with a 1cc. Pushing yourself constantly is vital to improvement.

I personally am going to push myself into trying to clear a game on Hard soon, since getting plain Normal 1ccs is starting to become common enough to not push me (though I could also try doing challenge runs on Normal like No-Bomb).


Gitting gud at shmups is like building up a muscle. It requires a lot of exercise and there will be pain sometimes, but it's all to make progress, and if you never quit you'll eventually make it. All you need is dedication and practice.

>>16093601
Oh, that's good then, I really like decimating bosses with it.

>>16092769
>Not trying a NB/NMNB on PoFV
C'mon, you cam NMNB Phantasm and many Extras, try it!
I said try it!
Try it!

>>16093524
>PoFV
Use Aya, the AI raper. Beat Lunatic easily with her.
>IN
Iktfb

>>16093612
>Never play on Easy Modo
I can confirm this. I played Easy EosD, and 1cc'd it in one try. On Normal, I have difficulty against China, but I improve. Same with IN. I did this ONLY to get the Clear bonuses, before getting really tired of how much I needed and downloaded a scorefile from someone. One day I'll be the guy to give Last Worded scorefiles to others, but today isn't.
I played Easy TD, and holy shit was it easy. I'm not sure if I even died that run.

Retro Era Deathbombing:
What's the window FOR LLS AND MS?
I know that HRtP, SoEW and PoDD don't have it.
Another thing; what's the extend score for LLS and MS?

>>16089934
How the fuck are you supposed to dodge that?

>>16093697
What's the point in using a character that destroys the AI? Might as well tell them to not play the game.

>>16093694
>Try it!
What's the point when you could do something fun instead, like scoring

>>16093718
It's not the actual spellcard. Someone fiddled with the numbers and made it impossible.

Sort of like this
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8736105

Those boss rush patches for SA and UFO are great!
What a shame there isn't one for IN

>>16093612
Thanks for your advice. I didn't realize I didn't put enough effort into it until now. I think it's just a matter of getting hooked into the games, then it will be easier to keep practicing regularly. By the way, I do play on normal, but I usually end up failing, and going back to playing on easy meme.

>>16093709
LLS and MS deathbombing I believe is just like EoSD, so 6 frames if I recall.

Extend scores for LLS are 3M, 8M, 15M, 22M, and 30M

MS extends are gotten for every 100 point items you collect (Number in blue here) they carry over between stages so dont worry if you only get around 50 in a stage.

>>16093751
>Sort of like this
Some people have way too much free time.

>>16094097
They must be smarter than you.

>>16093292
Hey!
Don't talk about my wife in such a way!

>>16093601
>>16093612
It's clearly not the intended design. At best it's an oversight.
That said, my Lunatic 1cc of SoEW used it as well because SoEW is in fact kind of bullshit, and it's not like tapping prevents you from having to do any dodging like another bug. I think it's legit.

>>16094529
doesn't SoEW also have bugs where you die to nothing and your hitbox moving around when you die?

>>16093457
>Who the fuck said Utsuho is easier than Orin?

She's easier to bomb through.
But if you're actually attempting to capture all of her stuff, then yeah, she's much harder than Orin.

>>16081324
Slowly but surely progressing forward.

Died 4 times on stage 3 because I wasn't looking at the screen.
Which pretty much never happens, I can perfect that stage 99 out of 100 times with my eyes closed.
I considered restarting, but went ahead with it anyway and cleard it.

Died on Patchy's Undine, which was to be expected, that spellcard is ridiculously difficult on normal, and pathetically easy on hard. Very RNG dependant too.
Sakuya's final killed me, which again, was to be expected.
And died to Remilia's Vlad Tepes, not sure how that happened.

7 deaths total, pretty bad, but those 4 deaths on stage 3 shouldn't really count.
And it was on my first try right after I woke up, so that's my excuse too.

>>16094112
Rude.

>>16095096
You're not really experienced enough to be aiming for no bombs, anon.

>>16096930
That's a lie, I started doing LNB attempts less than a month after I started playing, took me a while to get done though of course.

>>16096930
Clearly I am, considering I'm getting them.
Two runs and I got 2 NBs with both shot types without any restarts.
Not to mention I can perfect all of the stages in practice.

I feel like I might even get a NMNB on a good day.
Not with ReimuB though.

THIS FEELING

XD

>>16097969
More like Reimu Touhou 4.0

>>16098042

>Malice Cannon Glitch: When using the Magic Team, pressing the shift button on and off every half second or so creates an interesting effect. Both Marisa and Alice's shots will stay on screen at the same time, resulting in the Malice Cannon, which inflicts the most amount of damage on the opposition in all of IN. Other teams can use this, but it the most pronounced with the Magic Team. Similar to Marisa B's bug in Mountain of Faith in nature.
Does that mean that using this trick makes an IN run invalid (similar to abusing the MariB glitch)?

>>16098599
Malice Cannon isn't as much of an advantage. The Marisa B glitch in MoF is a literal game breaking bug though to the point bosses die before their first spellcard even reaches you.

>>16098599
As >>16098604 said, it's not really that big of an advantage. The only times when MAlice Cannon has a noticeable advantage anyway is during cards with tons of familiars lined up.

Humorously, if you do it right, you can actually clear Mokou's survival card before your supposed to by using malice canon on a bunch of her lined up familiars for several seconds.

>>16098599
There's nothing invalid about that, glitches are just gameplay you have to discover on your own.

I finally got this clear with Mima after months of trying on and off! Someone told me about the squiggly orange laser safespot Shinki had above her and I barely managed to clear it with a 0/0. Intense!

Now back to playing good old Windows touhou.

Arrow keys or numpad?

>>16099105
Arrow keys. But it's preference, really. If your arrow keys are uncomfortable, then try something else.

>>16099077
Nice job!

>>16098599
Like others have said already, it's just a little bit of extra damage, not even close to MariB glitch.
Considering how narrow their shot range is compared to other characters, I'd say it's fair.

>>16099077

ISC without items: I have the first day 100% (and Yoshika's Zombie Claw, which I found the safespot in) but no clue how to NI other stages. Any tricks?
>Beating Yukari before any other Day 10 boss
>Still can't beat her in PCB

The Hell bosses: How do I beat these beings?
Also, Hell 16-19: what strats should be used?

LNBed UFO without the visible hitbox for fun. Was indeed pretty fun.

Today I started learning how to capture maze of love even though I already cleared it and I'm having a blast.
It's just weirdly satisfying to gaze at the bullets and circle around, totally something else than watching a vid.

Man, I'm going to feel glad about not having to touch SoEW again for a while, got my second Normal 1cc. Playing this game feels so sporadic for me. I can be doing fine up to a certain point and then suddenly die thrice in a row like it's my first time experiencing a pattern, but then after that I'll suddenly play perfectly fine. I cleared Mima losing only two lives and using one bomb, but lost three lives in the first half of Marisa's fight (then perfected the rest of it). I probably still have more appreciation for this game than I should, since it was my first 1cc ever.

what do you do if you hit your skill cap and cant luck out?

>>16105855
Go into Spell Practice and try. A lot.
It's not gonna be capped whatsoever, as long as you keep on trying.
>>16105829
You got the fonts installed for that?

>>16105855
Just keep trying, you'll get lucky one day.

>>16105855

>>16099411

>>16105859
>You got the fonts installed for that?

No, never took the time since the dialogue is readable.

>>16105855
>skill cap

If your skill cap is too low, raise it. Practice more, git gud. Really, there's no height you can't reach. Some people will claim natural talent means everything, and I'm certainly not a Lunatic player so maybe I just haven't hit my skill cap, but I believe you can accomplish any goal you want if you're willing to practice enough for it.

>>16105829
???
The later stages I can't beat (mainly because of these attacks that give me no time to react).
Any tips, "sensei"?

>>16105952
Continuation because why not, this face?

>>16105855
Skill caps are only mental, just keep practicing and knowing that you can eventually become better.

>>16105952
If you're referring to those lasers specifically, they're static in that attack, and always appear in the same spot. You could either stay on the edge when the fairy starts to move so you aren't at risk, or memorize the safe spots and position yourself in one before the boss starts moving. Lasers are kind of bullshit in SoEW but they only happen in set places (you know when it's coming in Stage 3, and they're static in position in Stage 4) so they're manageable.

For more general advice, if you rapidly press the fire button you'll shoot much faster than just holding it. There's no deathbombing in this game, so the only way to make use of your bombs is to recognize when you're fucked ahead of time. You're more likely to die with bombs left than in most games due to this, so if you recognize a hard pattern, do not be afraid to just bomb it early before you're even at risk of dying. "Better safe than sorry" is a good motto for SoEW. And if you're out of bombs, pray.

>>16105935
>>16105985
feel when score getting higher is just because got luckier not because of increase in skill

oh look, a B

>>16105855
Open a bottle of champagne.

>>16105855
just kill yourself an hope you're reborn japanese

>>16107127
$50 says he already is japanese

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>>16109255
Other guy but I'll take that bet.

>>16106019
I know all the advice, but the bomb mechanic is hard to do, as I'm considered "dead" when the bullet hasn't even hit me/half a second before.

How many bounces does Meira's balls take before they leave the screen?

>find some suggested settings for PC-98 emulator to make the sound better and the graphics smoother
>works great for SoEW
>works great for PoDD
>try it in MS
>20.31% slowdown

I guess I need to just stick with shitty audio when playing MS.

>>16109610
I'm honestly not sure about Meira, I always kill her in that stage before she cycles through too many balls.

>>16109674
Don't use Anex, use T-98 Next

fuck off jannyboi

>>16109727
Isn't T-98 Next more resource intensive than Anex? I have a toaster.

>>16109774
It still should run ok, it's not too intensive iirc, give it a shot

>>16109774
Testing the emulator out confirms that it is, I got slowdown by Stage 2.

>try to revert the changes I made to Anex
>still get 10% slowdown when I got less than 1% before making changes

Fuck, I think I'm going to have to redownload the emulator to get default settings.

>>16109674
>Meira
It's more a ball that had a REALLY awkward angle that killed me.
>Recommended setting
I'm curious on that.
Also, FM or MiDi?

I need some help with my settings, my game thinks that I'm holding the key. It works well on SoEW, but PoDD and HRtP have really, REALLY poor times with this.

>>16109976
>I'm curious on that.

https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6549.0

>FM or MIDI?

It doesn't make a difference on default settings because it assumes you're using a computer that can't use MIDI, but with these settings you can choose, and MIDI is objectively better. More sound channels, more instruments, and sound effects don't cut off any channels.

I did my first 1cc
Am I good yet?

>>16110059
Apparently you are kind of bad still

>>16087215
All of the best stg scores of all time are done on stick. Don't believe the touhou isn't stg meme.

>>16110144
Yu-suke's lunatic runs were done on a keyboard and they're easily comparable to CAVE WRs or Raizing/Psikyo stuff.

Most of the great scores were done on stick because stick is all people had available in the arcade.

>>16087215
Stick, keyboard and pad all work and what you can use well depends on how familiar you are with the input device. If you played with a keyboard for years and then switch to a stick, you'll have to make up the inexperience with the stick first before you can think about beaten your scores. And maybe you won't even like it much in the end. Don't fall for the "this is the best thing" meme. It's different for everyone.

I lost to Mokou's last spell AGAIN.
Holy shit.
What bothers me the most is Honest man's death.
What's the deal? I go to the side where the beam is about to come but I'm still getting hit.
Do I have to wait until it is fire to move or what?

>>16110467
The hitbox of the laser activates at the place where you are when the laser spawns. So to dodge it you have to move towards it after the laser spawned. Try it out in spell practice a few times. It's arguably her second easiest spell for survival.

>>16110489
Indeed, I had already captured it before, but I wasn't too sure how.
As you say, it is not hard at all, just a bit confusing but thank you anon for clearing that doubt, tomorrow I shall take my first extra clear.

>EoSD stage 5
The bullet spreads fired by the fairies are targeted at you, alright, I get that. You should only begin dodging after you've heard the firing sound effect finish. But where are you supposed to sit and what kind of movement is best for dodging? It feels like the pairs of fairies make an impenetrable cage with their interlocking firing paths despite me sitting on my ass. Am I just choosing the wrong portion of the screen to idle on every single time?

>>16110536
Just sit at the top of the screen and move slightly to avoid the aimed bullets.

>>16110555
Move slightly where? Downwards?

>>16110565
No move right toward the bullet.

>>16110536
Be more specific.
You're talkig about the blue-red-green double fairy spam, right?
In which case you had this anon confused >>16110555

As for the dodging method.
The easiest way is, position yourself at the very bottom of the screen in the middle.
Wait for the first pair of fairies to show up and fire the blue bullets and WAIT. Do not move at all.
Now the bullets are approaching you, the second pair of fairies will show up and fire the red wave of bullets. Despite this you will stand still and not move.
Now, as soon as you hear the red fairies stop firing and the blue bullets are really close to you, this is where you will dodge.
Just simply tap once to one of the directions, right or left doesn't matter, and stand still.
Let the blue and red waves go past you, with that single tap you just avoided both waves.
Now just wait for the green fairies, stand still until the bullets get close and tap to the opposite direction of your first dodge.
There you go.

>>16095096
Three down, one more to go.
Took me a bit to get used to Marisa's speed, as I pretty much never play Marisa.

Perfected until stage 5 boss.
One death on Sakuya, three unfortunate deaths on Remi.
I keep messing up on Vlad, even though I was able to capture it nicely all the time before. Need to practice it a bit more.

whats harder SA or UFO

>>16111577
SA.

>>16111577
UFO.

>>16111577
Both.

>>16111577
IN

>>16111577
UFO easily.

>always lose like 1 life and 3 bombs to Hollow Giant "Woo"
>Do it once in Spell Practice
>Capture it first try
Oh but when it really matters I always screw up woo
>>16111577
SA

>>16111768
IN is fucking easy

>>16111843
Where's your 6b?

>>16089225
>I HEARD EVERY FUCKING HEARTBEAT DURING HER LAST SPELLCARD. FUCK.
Man, I haven't had that feeling in a long while. The first 1CC was magical because of that.

>>16111577
You can't beat Byakuren or Utsuho by only bombing, right?

>>16111577
SA on Normal
UFO on Lunatic

I want to know who spread the meme that PoDD is harder than PoFV. I can't beat Stage 6 without losing a life in the latter, while I can almost always get to Chiyuri without losing a life in the former.

>>16113065
I did it. Whatcha gonna do about it huh?

>>16113110
I'm going to express my displeasure toward you on an anonymous imageboad.

>>16113065
It has awful mechanics, though!

God i wanna play touhou again but i know whats gonna happen

The SoEW hit registration/hitbox is awful.
Also, how to beat Marisa easily? She killed me and then again back to bak because bad hit registration, but I want to get her beaten consistently.

>>161115
The difficulty in UFO is the stupid UFO system that has you dying trying to capture UFOs or having them change to the wrong color right before capturing one. I swear, getting UFOs is harder than defeating the bosses. What a shit game.

>>16113711
The patterns are difficult too.

Really though, once you've routed the game out a bit, ufos don't pose much of a problem for survival play, and even help in many parts (such as stage 3 ying yang orb spam). If you don't want them to change color you can stay right next to a token.

Also find it kind of funny that >>161115 is from 2008

>>16113711
It's worse when the boss comes in while a UFO is spawned. The damned thing leaves, making you lose 15 seconds of routing (which is usually fatal).

>>16113065
It sounds like you've spent way too much time playing bad games like PoDD, and not enough time playing good games like PoFV.

>>16113747
Not him, but even when you have the UFOs routed out, they just aren't a very fun mechanic to have to deal with. It's part of the reason that UFO is my fourth least favorite game of the mainline games.

>>16113629
>>16113757
I don't see what the quality of game design has to do with difficulty.

>>16113807
PoDD and SoEW are more difficult than they would be otherwise due too various odd decisions and janky gameplay, which directly has an affect on how tough the game is.

>>16113807
>>16113065
What difficulty are you playing on, anyway?

>>16111847
sorry i only do 6a

>>16113817
PoDD is definitely more unpolished, but it's a lot more lax regarding what it demands of you. The bullet density is much less than in PoFV at each game's craziest (at least on the difficulty I'm playing at, Normal). Even when Yumemi shows up in PoDD, I feel less overwhelmed with bullets than when Shekieiki shows up.

It's kind of of hard to stay next to a token when it's moving around a bullet storm that you're trying to get away from, though. So either you you lose an opportunity to get a bomb or life, or you die.

>>16114007
In response to >>16113747

I suck at using 4chan on a phone.

>>16110497
Quoting myself here:
>tomorrow I shall take my first extra clear
Just barely, because it's 23:32 here now but I DID IT!!! MY FIRST EX CLEAR!

Hey, is it normal to get a bomb from a random enemy?

>>16114391
In SoEW, yes.

Anyone feeling like they could 1cc Lunatic SoEW with ReimuB?
This is honestly hard, even if it had proper mechanics.
Post results

>>16114486
It wasnt too bad, died with bombs in stock everywhere

Got my first 1cc on PCB hard.

>>16111577
UFO

>>16113757
>good games like PoFV.
Hold on, there's something wrong here.

>>16115215
Congrats anon!
What shot? I should retake PCB so I clear it in normal with all shots and then try hard with my best

>feel like playing UFO
>don't reset when I die to stupid shit in the first few stages anticipating it to be a practice run
>only die once to Murasa
>No Miss 2 Bomb Shou and capture her hardest card (in my opinion as a Normal shitter) for the first time with no prior practice
>would have easily beaten Byakuren if I didn't lose 3 lives between Stage 2 and 3 from fucking around

And now I'm not going to get a run remotely as good on the later stages for 2 months because I used up all my luck on a run that I didn't even clear.

>>16115215
Nice :)

>>16081866

Stars and bullets that cross from two different directions.

>>16116991
It would seem like you screw up in higher stages because of the pressure of having player well the early ones. Since you screwed early, you did this practice run where it didn't really matter if you play bad, this probably took away all possibility of getting nervous, resulting in you playing in optimal condition for good results.
That's what happens to me at least, maybe you should just enjoy dodging regardless of how well you do

>stage 4
>enter with 5 lives
>can't see the bullets because Stage 4's visuals are awful
>almost lose
>end with two lives left and no bombs on my current run
>Mfw

Do you guys play with vsync patches? I haven't used them because I've never even noticed input delay in these games, but some people say the patches make a huge difference.

>>16119668
For some games it can be very significant, to the point where they're essentially unplayable if you don't get rid of the delay. EoSD and PCB are generally considered to get the most out of it. Most people won't notice the one frame that afflicts the more modern titles.

>>16119668
I started using them recently (not for EoSD tho, can't make it work) and I noticed a huge difference in PCB and IN. More PCB than IN, it makes the game so much better. It also helped me to git gud at IN a bit more >>16114326
In MoF it fixes a glitch, what a shame it doesn't do the same for SA

>>16119816
>In MoF it fixes a glitch, what a shame it doesn't do the same for SA
Which bugs are you referring to here?

>>16120113
MarisaB for MoF.
The replay fucks up if you fast forward in stage 6 for SA. Minor thing but its really annoying sometimes.

>Haven't played touhou since college
>Install EoSD again after nearly a decade since I've played it
>Can't even get passed Meiling anymore
Is it happening? Am I too old for these sort of video games?

>>16120752
Need to get back into the swing of it man.

>>16120752
Too old for 2hu? Too old for life.

Time to let go, gramps.

I feel really bad for not being able to clear LoLK. I've 1cc'd all the others at least on normal but can't just make it in LoLK. Stage 3 and Doremy has fucking destroyed my confidence for good. And I hate pointdevice, it just makes the game even more frustrating.

>>16121569
I don't know what's so frustrating in point device, but you better get used to it.
It's the default mode in LoLK, so if you can't get through it with confidence, you shouldn't even attempt legacy.
Ponitdevice makes it really easy to practice and get good at certain spellcards/stage sections, it would be foolish not to use it to your advantage.

How does one get good at these games? I've been trying to 1cc EoSD on easy for like a year. Should you start on easy or get good through attrition on higher difficulties?

>>16122435
>I've been trying to 1cc EoSD on easy for like a year

I call bullshit.

>>16122463
Well, it's not like I practice every day, but downloaded it about that long ago.

>>16121569
I feel ya, that's why I only play like 10 mins of PD a day and most of my practice goes to legacy mode.
Or just start doing hard mode runs

>>16122435
You should never play on easy, unless you're really good and playing it for score.
You won't learn anything if you only play on easy, normal is the very bare minimum.

>>16122435
Like another anon said, never play on easy, it won't challenge you or push you to be better.

If you want to git good, you have to play daily. Not necessarily for hours at a time each day, but make sure you at least play 15 minutes or so, even if it's just a single run. If you keep playing on-and-off with huge breaks between, your accumulated skill will break down and you'll have made no progress in the long run. By practicing daily, even in short bursts, your skills won't slack and you'll be able to get better.

>>16116991
>try again
>do great up to Stage 5
>fucking TANK against Shou
>die to some of Byakuren's easiest attacks
>lose at the final spellcard

I knew it, I fucking knew it, I wasted all my fucking luck by not restarting on that run. I'm not going to be able clear another game on Normal for months.

>>16122884
What's with this sense of despair?

You can 1cc next credit.

>>16122957
It's just because of my usual progression toward 1ccs. I always inch along, barely getting ahead each run, until suddenly the stars align and I sweep through the game with almost zero deaths, having enough lives and bombs by the final boss that choking won't end this run.

I had that huge push in that one run, but failed to deliver on it, so I'm stuck in limbo for months until my luck recharges and I'm able to pull through again.

On my second set of 1ccs I've been working on, I haven't really needed this outside SoEW and SA just because I have become more skilled relative to my first tries, but on hard games like this I still almost always fail at clearing it, only overcoming when I get that lucky alignment.

I probably sound overly superstitious here, and if I do I apologize, but that's always how it's worked for me.

Is it me or MoF goes to having one of the easiest normal modes to one of the hardest Hard modes?
I can barely get past Nitori.
>>16123052
err that's not how lucks work boi
And it works like that because that's how you proyect your path
Think of a reason why your luck meter would recharge in way less time, like a day or so, then believe in it and give it a go.

How lucky was I to have beaten Stage 5 Normal Sakuya without continuing?

>>16123172
>lucky

No, anon. You are developing skill.

>>16123179
Christ, I'm an idiot. I meant to say that but it was my first time against her.

>>16123172
Depends, how many of her spellcards/nonpsells did you capture?
How many times did you die/bomb?
Did you play as MarisaB?

Damn, Sakuya A's ending on PCB was kind of disappointing.
Just wanted to see a lil bit of Netherworld-SDM residents interaction.

>>16123561
Should've went with Sakuya B.

>>16123607
I'm planning to do so anyways

>>16123096
>Think of a reason

That's stupid. Even within the realm of my own stupid superstitions, you can't just change the rules of a superstition and expect it to immediately take place. If the superstition is true, then it has hard rules, and if it's fake, then you've just gone from one fake thing to another while the real reason of me being unable to get this second 1cc is being a scrub with a lack of talent.

I can't even get past Stage 2 now because I keep fucking up the UFO routing. This is how 98% of my UFO attempts go, and the other 2% is when I stop being a spaz and manage to grab all the rainbow UFOs before they change color without running into an easily-dodgeable bullet, and avoiding BARELY failing to kill a UFO before the boss shows up and nullifies it, and avoiding accidentally going above the PoC line when I'm reaching for that tiny timeframe when I can grab a UFO before enemy bullets obscure it and subsequently not having enough points to get the extra life piece (I don't go for bomb pieces often in UFO, I know it's overall more resources if you play optimally but I die with bombs left far too often to make use of it).

I do like the UFO system in a Stockholm Syndrome type of affection, but it's the cause of me throwing away the vast majority of my runs. I'm thankful Nazrin doesn't have a midboss spellcard on Stage 1, just so there isn't a huge gap of attempts between said hypothetical midboss card and her first boss card.

>>16123635
>while the real reason of me being unable to get this second 1cc is being a scrub with a lack of talent.
If that's so then why the hell do you mention luck at all.
Why not just practice the danmaku itself instead of the UFO routing or just do boss rush? That would actually help you out instead of this bullshit "gotta wait until my luck recharges" business.

>>16123635
>Nazrin doesn't have a midboss spellcard on Stage 1

On normal, you mean.

>>16123664
Right, on Normal, should have specified. If I were playing on Hard or Lunatic I wouldn't be as mad at myself for my lack of skill since I'd be good enough to play on Hard/Lunatic in the first place.

>>16123663
Practicing the stages without UFO routing will just fuck me up when I need to actually do the UFO routing. I have heard of the boss rush mod, but I don't know much about it.

>>16123681
>Practicing the stages without UFO routing will just fuck me up when I need to actually do the UFO routing
Then remove that need.
Getting the boss rush is easy since you find it with a quick search and it has very clear instructions to make it run. It is also very fun, and will help you tons to understand bosses spells since you can't bomb them.

>>16123635
That's UFO for you. It's more frustrating than it is fun, which is why I've skipped it and wont play it until clearing the last three games.

>>16123681
Btw, you can in fact make your own rules about luck. But you shouldn't need to do that. If you can do Shou as well as you claim you do, then just keep pushing forward anon. You have got this.

>>16123529
This was a few months ago so it's fuzzy, but I scraped by with 0 lives, bombed more than usual (I'm annoyingly stubborn about bombs) and probably didn't capture any spell cards; I was playing with ReimuB. MarisaB's speed and shot are fun, but my traditionalism makes me want to do a ReimuB beforehand.

>>16123635
Talent is hardly neccessary for a normal 1cc

>>16123694
Playing this boss rush made me remember what it is I hate about UFO. It's not the UFO system, it's the fucking power system.

THREE deaths is all it takes to go from max power to minimum, and it's near-impossible to climb back up during a boss fight if you fuck up that bad.

The boss rush mode also made me realize that I am fucking abysmal at Ichirin's last spellcard. I mean just horrible, it's a wipe almost every time, I rarely make it to Stage 4 even in boss rush mode because if I die to that card twice I feel obligated to reset (I'm going to need at least six lives to beat Byakuren without bombs to unlock her practice mode, and you only get 7).

Been DDC's extra, now this is fun, this alone redeems the whole game

>>16124082
>It's not the UFO system, it's the fucking power system.
Now this is a valid complaint I can agree with, fuck that

I've been at it for a couple hours on the Boss Rush, and I still don't feel like I'm improving any, not even against Byakuren. I can already capture most cards 90% of the time, but I'm not getting a run where I manage to capture all my problem cards before Stage 6 without fucking up on some easy one.

I've had people tell me to post replays before so they could analyze them and give me tips to be less of a fuck-up, so I want to ask someone here if they'd be willing to mull over my best run so far in this mod.

https://mega.nz/#!IVw2ySqJ!OSmJof0Ar8qmrJCR-FESScZQ-OoKIJKL6HIxKQ9Vs-w

If someone is kind enough to look, keep in mind it's part of the Boss Rush mod and needs that mod to be viewable.

Holy fuck just tried hard odo on UFO and here the game's lack of balance really shines.
Why the hell did ZUN think it was fun to collect tokens while avoiding lightning speed lasers and huge fists.

>>16124111
You don't like DDC? I just started playing ir and find it fun. The point collection system isn't too obtrusive and the boss fights are entertaining.

>>16125092
Yeah, I don't like to spend all my time on the PoC, is lacking on the music department and other than Sekibanki, Kagerou and Sukuna, the bosses are so so, like all the stages.
But the Extra is hella fun.

>>16124807
>collect tokens while avoiding lightning speed lasers and huge fists
have you maybe thought about not going after the tokens while dodging hard things

>>16122532
completely false

>>16123694
thank ye

>>16124082
UFO can be quite punishing on power if you keep dying and can't recover well. It does give you the tools to recover through rainbow UFOs swapping points for power, but that requires on-the-fly route changes, which can be pretty difficult on its own. However, the raw damage difference between 1.00 and 4.00 isn't actually that much since the main shot and options get weaker individually as you power up. The coverage is a much more significant factor.

Anyways, Boss Rush changes the number of items you get from clearing patterns, since you can't get items from the stage; you get a flat 50 power items per pattern besides exceptions where you get more. The premise is that if you only die once on problem patterns, you're capping the rest, and so will steadily recover power as long as you aren't going to game over. Chaindeaths will probably seal your fate regardless due to the limited resources available.

>>16125883
>per pattern
Per card, oops

>>16124348
On Ichirin's third card, go up the screen to aim the fists there, then go down afterwards. This makes it much easier.

If you can help it, on Murasa's first card, don't aim the anchors at the sides. It makes randoms more hectic and the angle you dodge the rest at gets worse.

Try to dodge more vertically on Byakuren's third non. You stuck to bottom screen and got nailed for it. Similarly, don't stay on the bottom of the screen for Star Maelstrom. If you're at the bottom, you can't dodge downwards, which is often what you need. Being at the bottom here isn't any less dangerous than higher up, besides being closer to the easy aimed shots.

You have a pretty fine grasp of most of the patterns, though. As for general advice all I would say is don't be too afraid to follow the boss for more damage (which isn't that necessary due to homing shots). Your reactions still need some work, since most of your deaths were either due to not being able to spot the danger fast enough, or not being able to reposition quickly after a dodge, leading you into other danger; of course this will get better as you continue.

Judging by this replay, I don't think you should have much trouble 1ccing if you have decent bomb habits and can get a moderate amount of resources without killing yourself.

Tried Hard mode on MoF, got brutally raped. Skipped SA because I know what's gonna happen (get brutally raped) so I went for Hard mode UFO and got brutally raped.
So that's how it is gonna be from now on huh?

Man MarisA in PCB hits way too fucking hard.

>>16125222
>Not Seija
She flips the screen. Where was that used anywhere else in the games?

>>16128485
It doesn't matter if new but how fun it is. Seija's screen flip was cool the first time, maybe but only to show some friends "woah that boss is a dick" but in reality is a shit gimmick just like you grow bigger. Now, making bullet grow big was indeed cool

>>16123607
Holy, that was probably one of the best endings in the game.
SakuyaB's shot is very interesting as well, gave me the fewer misses somehow

>>16110059
Now I've 1cced a game's entire difficulty, getting "kind of bad" all three times. It's lying though, right?
Right?

What's Marisa doing?
I've never seen this happen before.

>>16128980
Charge Max ability. She could activate it because she had zero bombs in stock and a full spell gauge. Never tried it myself though.

>>16128920
Well I mean in relative terms a lot of players are far, far, far above you, with tons of people who can clear Lunatic and do challenge runs like No Bomb playthroughs or NMNBs. You are "kind of bad" compared to those players.

Don't let that discourage you, though, getting a 1cc is still an accomplishment for a new player, I felt ecstatic the first few times I cleared a game.

Think of this as your first step toward gitting gud. It's a milestone.

woah got hard mode clear on PCB in my first try, I even captured Yuyuko's last spell
I have grown attached to this game even though I hated it at first

>>16125222
Honestly, every game after MoF has had lackluster music. There are only 1 or 2 themes from SA, TDD, and DDC that stand out. UFO has nothing good. I haven't played LoLK yet.

>>16130288
I gotta disagree.
MoF has 4 themes I like, not including extra since I have yet to play it
SA has 7 themes I like, not including extra since I have yet to play it
UFO has 9 themes I like, not including extra since I have yet to play it
I like all of TD, not including extra since I have yet to play it
DDC has like 3 themes I like, including the extra (stage 6 and Sukuna's theme are pretty much the same so they go as one, same for Raiko's)
LoLK has 8 themes I like, no extra.
GFW has some silly, yet interesting themes in it as well
Really, it was just DDC that dropped the ball on that regard, a real shame.

>>16130324
I should also mention that UFO and TD's menu screen theme are cool as well

>>16081495
>pic related

Guilty google searches?
I just found this, done the same day I got EoSD

>>16087788
As hard as it is to believe, LoLK normal is harder than Hard but not as hard as Lunatic.

>>16130554
Then should I try to 1cc hard before normal?

XD

>>16130324
Don't forget ISC (early day themes and last day themes)!

>>16130288
LoLK is probably the best one in terms of music

>>16130288
>every game after MoF has had lackluster music

SA, UFO, and DDC are some of my favorite OSTs, and LoLK has some great tracks too. I also like all the soundtracks from the fighting games, though ZUN doesn't exclusively work on those so they might not count.

>>16130621
>high score blotted out

>>16126004
Thank you for the advice. I still suck shit against Ichirin but this method of moving up to guide the fists instead of moving up to avoid the fists does seem to work a bit better.

>Your reactions still need some work

I definitely agree, I think it's my weakest aspect. It's better than it once was but still isn't nearly good enough.

I haven't had a regular, non-boss run to put my possible improvements to the test because I realized there was a better route for Stage 1 I could take in the sense of getting more UFO and I have not gotten to Nazrin successfully since discovering this because it's so tight but your advice will most likely help.

>>16130621
better luck next time xD

>>16130595
Don't fall for his lies.
If you can't do normal, you won't be able to do hard either.

>doing fucking GREAT at UFO
>have full lives when I get to Murasa without bombing
>have a fucking aneurysm and say "durr what if I turn this run into a No Bomb run? I'm not too incompetent to completely ruin the run by doing this!"
>proceed to lose against Byakuren at Star Maelstrom because of all the times I didn't bomb

WHY DID I DO THAT

WHY DID I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA WHEN I CAN'T GET A REGULAR 1CC

Goddamnit, Satori. This spell card is too hard.

Is there any easy way to have spell card practice in SA?

>>16132653
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=19187.0

>>16132661
wtf I love China now. Thanks.

>>16132646
Same thing happened to me today.
Although I was going for a no bomb run from the beginning.
I was dying on the most retarded shit starting from Shou, in the stupidest possible ways, chasing around UFOs like a retard got me killed 4 or 5 times.
Eventually died on Byakuren's final.

I'm not too mad though. Haven't played UFO in months and this was my first run.

>>16132773
I think it hurts more for me because it's 11AM and I've been playing this game literally nonstop since 4AM today, and I still haven't cleared it. On top of a week of on-and-off practice before this seven-hour session.

>>16132646
>>16132936
Well if you can get that far with full lives and no bombs, you should be able to clear it easily next time.

>>16132971
No bombs, as in, not bombing.

So Reisen's design had been changed on PoFV and not in LoLK? woah
I guess that is just another fuck up for PoFV

Damn, looks like I'm not homing.dependant anymore
>play EoSD again after a long ass time of playing other touhous
>remember that in PCB I did much better with either Marisa option
>go MarisaA
>1cc
>I even captured Red Magic
Now I can play Marisa over Reimu, something that i wanted to do since the beginning although now I may like Reimu more than Marisa
Also, what the fuck is up with Flandre? Her second spell kicked my ass. I guess I like her theme now tho

who /never1cc'danymaingame/ here?
Being worthless hurts progressively more over time.

>>16132971
You lied to me. I had a run that was even better than the aneurysm run, I had full lives and almost full bombs at Murasa, and I fucking choked even harder than before.

I'm telling you luck is real and I keep using all of mine up on stupid runs like that attempted No Bomb, which means I run out in times like this.

>>16135284
I'm the same person as >>16110059
So until recently I've had no true 1cc.
I say true because I either used bullshit or played easy modo. (HM is that easy)

>>16135368
That's not how luck works.

>>16135787
Do you know a better word for what I'm trying to describe, then?

>>16135456
>(HM is that easy)

All the fighting games are easy enough to casually 1cc, except possibly IaMP, that game gave me more trouble than all the other fighting games.

>>16135795
Swap luck for confidence and then read >>16135368

>>16135456
How the hell is that all empty, yet you have a lunatic 1cc?

>>16135826
Aya in PoFV is just that broken against the AI.

>>16116982
Homing shot and also good luck!
>>16117100
Thanks!

>>16088719
You're not the only one.

>>16136634
It was just a joke, of course it is normal, that's how the difficulties are intended, and it is what makes the games so replayable as well

I just 1cc'd Normal on IN for the first time. I failed when Kaguya showed up but it doesn't really look like that makes a difference.

But I checked why I didn't get a good ending. Do I really have to do the game a second time with the same fucking characters in order to get level 6B? Why?

This is fucking annoying. I thought I had my 1cc for this game but without the good ending it feels like it doesn't count. I've been fucking blueballed. I'll probably play through the game again to get the different last level but fuck, man.

>>16137057
If you can do it once, you can do it again, 6B is not much harder, if at all on normal.

>>16137057
On the bright side, you didn't get the bad ending, either. IN has three endings for each team; one for not getting a 1cc, one for getting a 1cc on Route A, and one for getting a 1cc on Route B.

>>16137057
You didn't need to 1cc route A in the first place, but believe me that 1cc is legit, no matter what the games tells you.
Hell, the 1cc that is usually posted here does have an entire section for route A in IN.
Btw, congrats anon, IN was my first 1cc too, what team?

>>16138496
Not exactly.
It's one if the time reaches 4:30 AM
one if you beat the game but didn't 1cc/1cc'd A
and one if you 1cc B.

>>16111331
Do you have replay?

>>16141237