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I got this from GoodReads.com: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28260540-monster-girl-encyclopedia-vol-1

Rebecca rated it did not like it
Shelves: fantasy, romance
I was originally supposed to review this for ANN, but in the end we deemed it too raunchy for the site. This book feels like a guide for an unreleased adult visual novel about having sex with as many monster girls as possible - each entry for the 100 different monsters discusses how she prefers to "rape" or "assault" human men, focusing on how much the men end up enjoying it. While the full-color images of each monster girl on the left hand pages are quite attractive, most of the entries also have insert, sepia-toned images of the monsters having sex with men in typical hentai style, with plenty of viscous fluids. Genitals are drawn without censorship bars, although there is no pubic hair. (See Girls & Sex: Navigating the Complicated New Landscape for why this is an issue.) The text mostly reads like the worst romance novel sex scene you've ever read, with the disturbing, and consistently reinforced, notion that human women do not enjoy sex and find male sexuality a burden, and thus are perfectly happy to allow monster girls to take over, even though it will lead to their eventual extinction. To say that this is outdated and offensive is an understatement.

Granted, I am not the intended audience for this book. But even if the issues I have with its depiction of female sexuality weren't present, this is not well-written and suffers from a severe case of masturbatory fantasy. Surely there are better done monster girl hentai stories out there

>> No.16049178

>>16049156
>Masturbatory Fantasy

So like any romance novel aimed at women then.

This shit is tame compared to what Fujoshits push out, at least KC offered some semblance of worldbuilding with it.

Also the reviewer didn't notice that the setting is literally medieval era where values were different

>> No.16049198

>>16049156
>This porn book suffers from a severe case of masturbatory fantasy
No fucking shit Rebecca.

>> No.16049211

>>16049156
>doesn't mention the plight of gay men being turned into women as punishment for their homosexuality

Typical.

>> No.16049216

>>16049156
100% true. I was okay with slime girls and humanoid DQ monsters before this shit picked up, but MGE is the dumbest shit otaku have created. I mean seriously. Even furries aren't that pathetic.

>> No.16049223

>>16049216
We get it, you don't like the monstergirl threads.

>> No.16049290

>Missing the point this hard
So another day of normies being normies.

What else is new?

>> No.16049386 [DELETED] 

>>16049223
Why are you guys so on edge anyway? Anything that doesn't conform to your group think is "FALSE FLAG! TROLLS! WOMEN! NORMIES! FAGS! AAAAAH!" and then you scream at each other for not liking the waifu you like. Are you guys okay?

I wish the threads were banned for a month so you guys could come back down to reality for a moment. You'd all kill each other if you ever had a meetup or something .

>> No.16049419

>>16049386
annoying homo.

>> No.16049535

>Reads like the worst romance novel
>Romance novel
>Romance
>Novel
Wait, I don't get it. Wasn't it presented in a encyclopedia format? Why the hell would an encyclopedia read like a novel? Although, the Fallen Brides/Maidens books are novels, I think.

Also
>ANN

>> No.16049541

>This book feels like a guide for an unreleased adult visual novel
>unreleased
Has she been living under a rock?

>> No.16049612

>>16049535
Fallen Maidens is a "World Guide". Less artwork, more descriptions, but far from a novel.

Fallen Brides is one of several Light Novel-styled collections of MGE fanfiction.

>> No.16049757

>>16049156
>with the disturbing, and consistently reinforced, notion that human women do not enjoy sex and find male sexuality a burden,
Since when wasn't this true?

>>16049541
I think you're confusing this with MGQ, which the author did work on but isn't related to this. Unless you're talking about that official rpgmaker game released a while back.

>> No.16050262

>>16049156
Huh. How often do people try to seriously review porn? Is that a thing that happens?

>> No.16050274

>>16050262
Yeah. Just go to the BDSM/Romance etc part of GoodReads. 99.9% of the content is garbage, and the reviews will only slightly help you navigate the shit.

>> No.16050507

>>16049216
>>>/trash/

Go whine there.

>> No.16050512 [DELETED] 

>>16049386
>he thinks waifu wars are real

Are you retarded?

>FALSE FLAG! TROLLS! WOMEN! NORMIES! FAGS! AAAAAH

>"I've never been to a MGE thread in my whole life so I just assume it's like every other waifu General on /a/"

>> No.16050525

>>16049156
Why is the fact the girls aren't drawn with pubic hair a bad thing?

>> No.16050535

>>16050525
Something to the effect of "unrealistic expectations" or whatever. Who knows the mental gymnastics involved in this argument.

>> No.16050547 [DELETED] 

>>16049156
Please post this in your circlejerk general and stop clogging up jp "kudasai"

>> No.16050550

>>16050535
I guess having wings or a tailpussy isn't unrealistic expectations.

>> No.16050777

FWIW Rebecca's feedback (from the ANN Forums):

"Just be aware that this wasn't written in a professional capacity, so I took less care with my phrasing. I didn't mention it on Goodreads, but there are some loli elements as well. The physical book itself is gorgeous. Also, the book I referenced in the middle there is by Peggy Orenstein. "

>> No.16050823 [DELETED] 

>>16049156
>>16050777
checked
Reviewing a fantasy porn book as anything other than a fantasy porn is the literal bottom of idiocy.

>> No.16050898

>Rebecca unofficially reviews
>(See Girls & Sex: Navigating the Complicated New Landscape for why this is an issue.)
>the disturbing, and consistently reinforced, notion that human women do not enjoy sex
>To say that this is outdated and offensive is an understatement.
>the issues I have with its depiction of female sexuality

This shit thread DOES NOT deserve to belong on /jp/
It should be deleted, please

>> No.16050935 [DELETED] 

>>16049156
STAY IN YOUR LANE, WHORE

>> No.16051064 [DELETED] 

>>16050898
Well this thread:
1: Should have been a post in their MG general and as such would have received more numerous and better responses.
2: Be moved to >>>/trash/
It kinda has a small reason to be in here but it belongs elsewhere.

>> No.16051948

How do you review an encyclopedia anyways?

>> No.16052300

>>16051948
I really wouldn't call it an "encyclopedia" I mean it is in the title but it's more like an artbook with detailed descriptions

>> No.16052329

>>16049757
>Since when wasn't this true?
The really funny thing is that, in taking issue with this rather than finding appreciation in the MGs themes of sexual liberation, she's just proving herself a hypocrite.

Also, anyone wonder what this chick's reaction would have been if Seven Seas hadn't censored all the explicit pedo-stuff to just be about "Diminutive" and "Petite" girls?

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>>16049757
>>16052329
>with the disturbing, and consistently reinforced, notion that human women... find male sexuality a burden
Preceded and followed by complaining about male sexual fantasies.

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>>16049156
Rebecca, that was beautiful. Thank you for helping us to understand. I appreciate your call for quality.

>> No.16053421

>>16052300
While that's not quite as thorough as a real life encyclopedia, it's close enough to one.

Maybe bestiary would be more accurate? Reviewing it like a story would be weird in any case.

>> No.16055324

>>16049156
Obviously there are legitimate issues one can easily find with the setting if one wants to, and I think KC himself has admitted he is more an artist than a writers, but this reviewer makes some outright factual errors in the assessment of the content. Namely:

1. The negative view human women have toward sex is plainly meant to reflect the pseudo-medieval, sexually repressive setting.

2. There's nothing about women being "happy" to allow monsters to take over so that they don't have to deal with male sexual cravings. Heck a major theme of the book is that the majority of humans fear monsters as killers and such.

3. The issue of eventual extinction is outright brought up and stated to be something that won't happen provided the monsters and their allied gods win against the anti-monster gods.

>> No.16056169

>>16055324
It goes deeper than that, the review as whole was nothing more than bashing MGE to sell another completely unrelated book. It is no better than spam.

the Rebecca acted completely unprofessionally with regard to MGE. It is one thing to not to review it for ANN because material was deemed too explicit for the site. It's quite another thing to go out of her way to bash it in the manner that she did. With all the misinformation that she spouted about the book's setting. Her criticisms of the book are disingenuous and she used those criticisms just as an ad for another book.

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16056259

/pol/ was right
gamergate was right
feminism is a cancer infecting everything

regardless, this thread is shiting up the jay, take it to mg general pls

>> No.16056956

>>16050525
>>16050535
For a writer working on a weeaboo site, she conveniently forgets that the lack of pubic hair is a direct result of the "oppressive" censorship laws imposed by the occupying US army. Japan had pubes on all their erotic woodcut prints in the early 20th century and earlier.

>> No.16057111 [DELETED] 

Y'all be some bitches. Getting THIS in your feelings just because she took a dim view of your little fetish? Lmao..

>> No.16057347

>>16049156
>severe case of masturbatory fantasy
But that's literally what it is. It's porn. You're supposed to get off on it. What was she expecting?

>> No.16060872

>>16050525
I'm thankful they don't have pubic hair. Not into that at all.

>> No.16069900

>>16049156
>Shelves: fantasy, romance
This is a misconception a lot of folks seem to have about ero material. It's not "romance" in the western sense, but rather just expanded, self-indulgent masturbatory fantasy of the sort that used to be common in pornographic films back when they were still mostly watched in theaters. In light of this they should be considered only of the "fantasy" genre, and reviewed as such

>> No.16070323

>>16049156
>>suffers from a severe case of masturbatory fantasy
>>book about monster girls.
Isn't that the point?

>> No.16070411

>>16070323
I guess she likes her monster waifu pure.

>> No.16070595

kusothread

>> No.16071059

Uh oh, this thread is filled with crossboarders from the MG thread.

Also KC is a great artist but a fucking terrible writer.

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