/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Currently playing Mahoyo. Nasu's writing is a bit special but pretty fun.

>>16047159
In what way? It would be interesting if you could bring up some direct examples described on specific Japanese sentences.

妃?
more like 奇跡 wwww

Do they usually hand off writing sex scenes to Taro-kun the intern in plotges or something? I've noticed a fair few times the writing drops considerably and characters do a complete character 270 and all kinds of disappointing to read stuff happens.

>>16047174
This, for instance.
I believe I've never really understood the meaning of ピンと来ない until I started this.

So 姉姉Ｗ催眠 got cracked by none other that the arrogant chinese cracker but it looks like someone lent him the mikocon VM

>>16047230
Ｔｈｉｓ　is sentence seems weird, probably because it describes a weird state of affairs. Or perhaps I'm missing something.

>>16047232
Finally. Blessed be that cracker.

>>16047219

Not sure if it's always someone else, but porn gets porn writing, even if it destroys the character. It's weird.
Taking Senren Banka as an example, Mako is a relatively self-confident girl, but in ero she's crying all the time about how much of a lewd girl she is and her hoping that protag-kun won't hate her for it. (As in, she's read some.. *gasp*.. shoujo manga!!!!!!!!!!!! And knows that babies don't fall from trees!)


I really dunno. Either Japan simply has massively different fetishes then I do, or it's just a porn-trope or whatever. That said, it's not always like that. Senren Banka generally has the issue of the girls being the worst in their own routes, so that ero is a further step down isn't too big of a surprise in this case. At least the art was good I guess.

>>16047236
The way he writes is weird. I understand what they're talking and so it makes clear what the problem is, but still, I cannot even think how this shit got a TL. Either the translator is pretty good or he assumed lotfucks here.

>>16047253
There's one in OwaSekai that's stuck in my head as the worst example of what the fuck porn writing I've seen.

The main girl got (actual spoilers) almost forced to suck drunk abusive daddy's dick and then later on there's a scene where she's giving protag-kun a blowjob and they describe him patting her head in a "fatherly way".

I don't want to believe the same writer would do that, that's all kinds of fucked up. Did he forget? Or is this somehow a normal description and I'm weird for making the connection? It's a little bit weird on its own even without the spoiler, too.

>>16047253
Having a separate writer just for the porn is pretty common in eroge.

>>16047230
What's weird about it?

>>16047253
Mako's route was just full of disregarding her characterization that was built up in the common route in general though.

>>16047230
>I believe I've never really understood the meaning of ピンと来ない until I started this.
So what you're saying is, 「ピンと来ない」の意味は...ピンと来なかった？

>>16047502

>>16047502
I never feel so roasted in my life. That was amazing, anon!

>>16047385
That it doesn't make literal sense in my head.

>>16047547
It makes perfect sense. Maybe you should read something else first.

>>16047556
I did already read other difficult stuff before so I don't really think my japanese is the problem. Sometimes one can't grasp out other peoples minds or writings.

That being said, can you tl it?

>>16047571
"My title of student council president isn't for show, I've already collected that information. I found out where he/she jobs once a month, when he visits his/her friends and his/her preference ranking of them."

>>16047600
>president
Oops, that's obviously not correct. But you get the gist.

>>16047600
And that's why I said that "it doesn't make literal sense in my head". From context that's not the case. She's talking about a list containing that kind of info about every student rolled. It makes no sense that every student works once in a month.

As I said, I understand what it's saying, but the way it says it makes no sense.

Who the fuck is the main heroine in Fortissimo

>>16047748
Momiji
the game wants you to believe it's flower tits but it's wrong

can someone remind me exactly what the deal was with flower tits' backstory? I'm hoping I merely exaggerated how dumb it was over the years. wasn't she something like his mother reincarnated through the power of magic crystals?

>>16047798
This is really confusing me. The game is screaming its tits but the character design and everything is screaming Momiji.

How I wish this game was at 1080, just for the backgrounds and some CGs.

>>16047833
Any story spoilers?

>>16047828
it is actually tits but she's more plant than character and only becomes relevant in the last like hour of the main route. which, coincidentally, is the absolute worst part of the story, barring the pretty cool final boss battle.

Momiji is just infinitely better in literally every way, better interactions, better chemistry, more fun, more badass, cuter, etc. etc.

Somebody really dropped the ball there.

>>16047848
The game is extremely in your face with what it's actually going on, which I don't dislike or the routes would really feel like blueballs.

>>16047862
If a heroine truly liked you she wouldn't use a condom.

>>16047929
she empties out the contents directly into her vagina then teases the mc until he does it again raw

if that ain't true love i don't know what is

>>16048010
Not using it in the first place I presume

>>16047862

While the last part with Sakura in the mainstory was indeed weird (given that Momiji seems to be the canon girlfriend, one would think that Reiji isn't directly thinking "nope, no way" to Sakura's final proposal), I don't think somebody really dropped a ball. Momiji is pretty much the "girlfriend" for the whole story. That should be pretty clear from the get-go.

That said, the game isn't really about the romance, and in Momiji's case that's actually important. She seeks the distance. Which seems weird, but well, she has her own issues she needs to overcome, and the whole battle royale is ultimately just that in an easy to grasp form, for her. (Which is why she doesn't want an answer from Reiji in regards to her feelings till after everything is over, AND tries to keep a certain distance)


Of course a lot of this gets more blurry, as some genius decided to fuck her character in the bonus content for "nächste Phase", so you can get silly extra scenes for her in the main-story or play her own "route", both which just completely forget what the fuck the girl is actually on about and throw it out of the window for a bit of cute and lewd. I mean, yeah, she IS cute. But she also was one of the better characters with quite an interesting dilemma.
Honestly, her last fight in the main-route and the stuff afterwards was just beautifully done, as it so damn well reflected everything she was about. The initial delay (=struggle of her feelings vs. her shackles). The battle afterwards. The hope for a final release from her magic (=shackles) and thus a new life to start again, finally conquering her own past. (and then in complete Momiji style getting fucked hard, which in this case means: killed. To a point she can barely say 3 words or so. To take care of Nagisa.. and "thanks". Summing things up nicely.


As such I don't think it's so strange to see the epilogue and see her role in it, as it feels like it's an absolute given that that'd happen. Though I'm actually not sure if this was added for "nächste Phase", as fans liked her the most or something. Could be. Seems to have the most lewd content too, though I haven't actually seen them. (2scenes +1 after, others have at most 2s or 1s+1a) That said, to me it really always felt like a Momiji show. The other love-interests are all way too flat and don't ever really feel like much of a potential girlfriend most of the game.


tl;dr: Momiji a cute and an actually really well done character. (in my opinion)

how do i get motivation to read more?

don't bother telling me "just don't read if you don't want to"

>>16048104
Think of a VN you really fucking want to read, and make it your goal to read that VN by the end of the year or something.

>>16048110
There's still a full 2 months before the end of the year though.

I want motivation to read 8 hours a day at least since I'm a NEET, but instead I just do nothing all day.

>>16048104
What was the last VN you finished?

>>16048123
>I want motivation
That seems like an oxymoron to me. You are either motivated and want to read, or your aren't and don't.

>>16048104
>>16048123
Coming from someone who spent 2 years as a neet:
Note 1: Radical Freedom.
Jean Paul Sartre discussed a concept known as "radical freedom", that is that we humans are always in full control of our actions. For example:
>[Sartre] would point out situations such as a group of hikers who encounter a boulder blocking their path, leaving them 'no choice' but to turn back. Sartre claimed this was wrong, as they also could fling themselves off the mountain, killing themselves.
Keep in mind, you are always in controls of your actions. If you ever catch yourself doing something other than what you want to, and wonder why it ends up like this, the answer is always "because you chose to do this".
Note 2: Path of least Resistance.
As humans, we tend to take the psychological path of least resistance at all times. Reading takes a good amount of psychological effort (varies per work of course) and will tend to lose out to things such as casual video games, youtube videos, or just random web browsing in general. To combat this, you need to do the impossible and disconnect from the internet. Remember radical freedom - before you say "but I'll just reconnect", remember, you are in control of your actions. If you truly want to read more, then taking steps to read more is fully reasonable and within your control. The steps you can take to do this are simple: move your phone away from your desk, read VNs on a dedicated tablet away from your pc, actually disconnect the modem, or simply close your internet browser and don't open it. If the only source of stimulation which remains is reading, you'll read.
Note 3: Make sure the reading is fun.
If you gave a 10 year old a copy of A Critique of Pure Reason, they'll kill themselves before they read for 8 hours. It's important not only to be willing to read, but also to enjoy what one's reading (as >>16048146 implies). If you find yourself bored out of your mind reading a VN, try another one - there's nothing forcing you to finish what you start, and indeed, forcing oneself to read something they don't like is a fast path to not reading at all. Find writers you like, find genres you like, find anything you like to read and read that, be it romcoms, be it philosophy, be it history, be it nukige.
Note 4: Practice
The more you read, even in your native language, the easier it will become to read both for short periods and for longer ones. Going straight from constant websurfing and channel hoping to reading for hours may be a significant psychological burden. So, essentially "practicing" reading by reading 30 minutes straight, then 40 minutes straight the next day, and so on, could be a wise choice.
Note 5: Change environment
Go to your local library with the tablet or whatever you wish to read and the quiet atmosphere (and lack of any other potential stimulation) can be all the encouragement one needs to focus on reading.

>>16048123
Upcoming blog.

I was in your position for a while earlier this year during summer vacation. A NEET between college semesters, ignoring the VN I was reading and operating at a glacial pace on everything else.

By the final month I realized that I had just squandered 70% of my summer vacation on stupid shit and I realized that I wasn't going to even get the common route of the VN done before the end of the year at my pitiful pace. So I mojo'd up on that shit, dropped all the stupid vidya and anime backlog I was working on and focused on just reading that damn VN everyday and mining words from it. Every single day, ignoring time for cleaning my room and surviving off instant frozen food (because cooking takes time), dedicating every single hour of my waking time to Japanese.

I'm just a beginner to reading so by the end of the month when college had started again I had only knocked out the common route and two routes. But I'm glad I did it because I managed to mine 5000+ new words in the process and gain the confidence to continue reading VNs every day even if I had to slow my pace down due to schoolwork.

>>16048104
>needs motivation to read all the new eroge
Are you gay? Did you already check the Otome threads in /vn/? Maybe stop procrastinating.

>>16048157
>A NEET between college semesters,
Upcoming autism.
You are not a NEET if you are in between college semesters, you're still in Education. NEET doesn't mean "nothing occupying your time for a certain period".
Autism over.

>>16048010
This better happen when I read this or I'll be sorely disappointed.

>>16047232
Been reading this for awhile. I am near tears because this is so good. I have never read a hypnosis VN before so I can't speak from an educated standpoint or speak on equal footing to hypnosis enthusiasts but for me this is so good I'm shaking. What a great nukige.

Thanks for the responses.

What's with the CG positioning in this VN anyway? There's no new CGs for ages, and then suddenly there's like 5 CGs in a row, some of which are only on the screen for a couple seconds. It feels like the writers and the artists didn't co-ordinate very well, or they just didn't consider the importance of CG balance.

I guess there's some argument for saving the CGs for the climactic scenes so they have more of a lasting impact, but there has to be limits, right?

Recently I've been getting a lump in my throat when I start reading japanese. I'm not sure why, normally my throat only tightens up when I'm stressed at work, but recently it's been doing it when I read japanese, even light stuff like moege. If i get away from vns the feeling goes away in 10-20 minutes, but comes back as soon as I start again. I've been reading in all kinds of positions to rule out posture, I can read through the feeling but if you ever had the lump in throat feeling you know how annoying it can be, I've tried hot teas and meditation but nothing helps, I just want to read vns comfortably. Any tips? I'm probably just stressed out but vns was how I relaxed now I can't even do that.

>>16048930
Practice more.

>>16048677
Well Moogy did call that game shit after all.

>>16048930
Allergic reaction to the nihongos.

I can confirm Seisai no Resonance is not shit, in fact, it's actually really good, I enjoyed it immensely. If people want I can write up a more detailed review?

>>16048677

The game was rushed. If you are on that route right now.. you'll realize that soon enough.

The only thing really worth playing is probably the true route. (which you can actually even play first, though I can't recommend that as you can't skip battles like that which COULD be a problem)
Anyway, the true route is pretty amazing in a lot of ways. The way it builds its atmosphere during it, the character building and development and the issues you get that are even kinda fresh as you usually see them from the opposite perspective. It all geared well into each other. The only thing missing is voice-acting for Kanae. But well, the law of "nothing can be perfect".

>>16049622
Actually, I did do the Nagi route first, got the "normal" end, and then went and did the other routes before I came back to the true route. Playing on normal difficulty the game is fairly easy, shouldn't be a problem if you're reasonably competent. Although on hard it's impossible.

I don't see why you say the other routes aren't worth playing? The story definitely isn't as good, but there's good character development, there's quality sex, there's buildup and foreshadowing which makes the true route more impactful, and they're all pretty short so it's not like you're investing a lot of time into them. Unless you have extremely high standards or something I'd definitely recommend them.

>>16049619
I've been on the search for a game with a female protag for a while that isn't an otome but
>sub 70 EGS
You'll have to do some mighty convincing

>>16049634

The one other route I played (Yuu's) was quite fun until the end, as, again, it was rushed. It threw out literally all plotpoints it built up and rushed to some weird ass ending. I don't need that shit. (Plus the route branchings are questionable as well. One girl has her route if you literally not get the girl "you want" as she gets someone else aka sorta NTR, one other one you have to ditch the girl you were steadily building up a relationship in one of the most dumb ways.. )

As for the gameplay, I can only talk about "easy" mode, and the last boss in Yuu's route was NOT easy. No boss is, when a single hit stuns you for literally 5 seconds. Aka you can get hit maybe once if you are lucky. I skipped the gameplay afterwards, but can think of "true" being even worse. No idea what this shit was about and I don't really wanna know either. The spike was insane. From literal "can't lose no matter how badly you play" to "one hit can be enough to kill you".

I like how Re:LieF already has dozens of votes and reviews but Sora Tsuku doesn't. I guess it's a lot less popular and/or longer.

『千の刃濤、桃花染の皇姫』
http://advgamer.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-3121.html

>>16049657
Firstly, you're recommended people skip all the routes when you only read one of them? What the fuck? I hate it when people do this.

Secondly, I agree Yuu's ending was not perfect. It's the only route that does that kind of thing, and I feel the route was still fun regardless. There were hints for possibilities of it - the mind-affecting force, Onee-sama's extreme feelings towards Yuu, Megumi's powers' close similarity with the 汚れ, etc. in the other routes, that you obviously missed by not doing them. It feels a lot less out of the blue with the proper setup.

Thirdly, the dropping-Nagi route branch is not "one of the most dumb ways". It makes perfect sense - clearly you failed to understand the impact and the meaning behind the revelation. Think how much pure trust it must have taken to so cleanly accept and overcome it in the other choice.

Fourthly, I beat every other one of the bosses on normal difficulty first try. Yuu's route I decided to play that one on hard because I felt normal was too easy, and it was impossible so I skipped it. So either Yuu's boss is much much harder than all the others, or you just suck at the game. I'm inclined to assume it's the latter.

>>16049673
Better rating than Muramasa

>>16049686

I did use "probably" for a reason. With the branching and the other route's example, it simply felt like that to me. (Of course there's always the chance that one just happens to stumble over this one incomplete mess while everything else is great.. but what are the odds)

As for the branch around Nagi, I guess we just disagree then. Hearing some shit from some a dude you know isn't exactly interesting in your well-being, and then first thing running to someone else and crying about it becoming an insecure wimp in the process? Just when Kanae finally got somewhere with Nagi? Information that isn't even necessarily true or complete? Sure. Do EXACTLY what the dude wants you to do.

It's just the choice mind you. I can see the story not making a big deal out of it in the end, but even just the "thought" about running off and ditching Nagi in that moment just made me feel sick. (And I really don't think it fits Kanae either) if you found it alright, more power to you. I seriously couldn't though.


As for the gameplay, I don't think "getting stunned for 5 seconds" when getting hit once is something that can ever be called easy. (especially if that means you can just get hit again and again leading to getting hit once -> death) I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that battle was just bugged, because it was a REALLY nasty spike. No idea though. Or I somehow got the hard-version of it, without me realizing it. I Don't remember if you could somehow switch. I messed around in the free modes a bit every now and then, so who knows if something "carried over" or some shit.

>>16049673
this guy has some weird taste I don't think his opinion applies to most

Played through Chuusotsu 1. For the anon in last thread who asked whether it works as a standalone; the central drama gets solved and there's no big cliffhangers or shit like that, but it's clearly supposed to be one part of a longer series as many of the underlying plot threads are left pretty much untouched.

In general the game felt very much like a first episode of anime that just introduces the characters and the setting, with the latter being at least somewhat unique if nothing else. Despite the game supposedly centering around philosophy, it's really more about dealing with the protagonist's personal drama and past for the most part, which in itself isn't bad but I was kind of expecting the game to subvert my expectations more.

Fureraba looks pretty boring. Is it not?

>>16050022
Our resident font autist Habluka-kun agrees with that guy on many things

>>16050279
Do you like moege and kind of crude humor?
If not you'll probably find it boring.

>>16050301
Well if they're generic no, but I like Daitoshokan and Kami no Ue.

>>16050279
Most likely depends on whether the heroines happen to strike your fancy. It's at least one of my favorite lighthearted heroine focused pure love games, meaning zero dillydallying with plot and straight to the get girlfriend / dating aspect, spiced with a silly protagonist and crude humor like the other anon said. The introductory common route part isn't very long and I really liked the pre-dating discussion system. Makes you feel you're actively working towards a relationship with one girl from the get-go, and none of the girls starts from deredere status.

>>16050313
kamimaho is not moege.

Could someone write a short tutorial how to use this Baidu Downloader from scratch?

https://github.com/banbanchs/pan-baidu-download

>>16047285
I remember that. It was very distasteful, after I read that I just skipped through the scene trying to forget it.

>>16050460
just use jdownloader

>>16050460
Install Python 2.x and learn how to use command line

Started Chuusotsu myself right now, and am finished with chapter 1. (as in chapter 1 of chuu1, not the whole game)

I didn't know what I'd get into at all and wasn't too sure at first when I saw the "society" themes, but all in all I was quite satisfied with the opening chapter. There is a lot of fucked up stuff conveyed with smiles and that satiric approach to speaking about society issues is my personal favorite approach of the whole thing, while I don't really like the more "serious setting" thing with that in tact. (i.e. I also liked stuff like "humanity has declined" )
My highlight so far is the MC's incredible inferiority complex caused by the society itself and the downwards spiral it produces. (If you are deemed bad and lower than garbage, it's only natural that you can't read something maps or read foreign languages or anything really, right?)


Sure seems like a fun little work so far, if you like this kind of concept.

Kinu's route in Tsuyokiss 3 seems to be really devoted to stomping all over Subaru.

>>16049916
I still can't comprehend your opinion on Nagi's branch. The mind is the highest sanctity of human individuality. This is far, far worse than someone peeking through your window or reading your diary, this is them invading your very thought process itself. This is especially true for people with traumas, but the saying they can do whatever they like with my body, but my heart will remain mine, is true. A human being grows up believing their mind is sacred, untouchable, their's and their's alone.

Now think how the reveal occurs. You're a lesbian teenage girl, and this is a weird male. Not just any male, but one associated with the society who tried repeatedly to kill you, with weird powers from his birth and a creepy smile and lollipop. And he's peering directly into your mind. At this point, she doesn't know the power is limited to exactly what's at the top of your mind that you're thinking right now. She has no idea of the limits of the power, if he can see her childhood memories and her most embarrassing thoughts and her feelings for Nagi. I'm almost surprised she didn't materialise her sword and run him through right there, it affected her so much.

There was no reason to doubt the power. He read her thoughts aloud word for word, multiple times, that's completely impossible any other way. And while she's on a good track with Nagi, there were unsettling moments when Nagi seemed to reply to the inner narration, rather than her voice (this would've had way more impact if she was voiced throughout). The hints were there and obvious enough that she wasn't going to doubt it, and Nagi was clearly hiding stuff, not being completely honest. And when you have this kind of reveal, when everything you once believed was sacrosanct is blown open, it's exactly this kind of doubt and fear that will control your immediate reaction.

Kanae, obviously, is a far more brave, loyal and trusting person than most, and that's why she was able to overcome it in the Nagi route. Upon seeing her beloved's face, she realised how much she loves and trusts her. But the other route is in no way implausible. Given the feeling described above, it makes perfect sense to not want to see Nagi immediately, to want to give yourself some time, especially directly after having your thoughts read by that other guy. Yayako is her close friend too, it makes perfect sense to want to confide in her, to rely on your friends in your time of need. And then when you go to Nagi's room, with these feelings of doubt and fear swirling around in your confused, tired mind, and the first thing Nagi say is about how she threatened Kazumi with revealing HER innermost and deepest secrets to the world if she doesn't play nice about their rule-breaking? Is there any more natural reaction? Your worst fears have just been all but confirmed, that she not only has this power, she's perfectly willing to use it against her friends for personal gain? And it's not even like she abandoned Nagi, even after all this! She scolded Nagi for her actions, rightfully so, and it was Nagi who ran off, frightened of Kanae growing to hate her over it, ashamed to be in her presence. I mean, could there be a more natural and realistic turn of events? And then Yayako sees her friend suffering and comforts her, and their relationship grows from there, in Nagi's self-imposed absence.

I understand your feeling of loyalty to one specific girl per route, and in the case of Megumi's route you're right it was blatant NTR. But here, it's nothing more than the natural development of human relationships, the natural reaction to the deepest possible invasion of privacy, the natural course of actions for not just Kanae but also Nagi and Yayako to take in this scenario. It made perfect sense.

>>16049671
I'm still at the common route but really enjoying it, humor is great, all heroines & adult mc and the setting are pretty good, has great voice acting and they have made lots of cgs, or at least so far. I'm still not sure why did they added that very short to fap meaningless h-scene at the beginning, but well its not a big deal imo.

>>16051361
does it even have some plot? it looks like a comedy

Guys whats the difference between Amakano Perfect edition and the normal version? Is there anything new worth of downloading?

>>16051366
They are gathering heroines / saving them from some shits while doing some mc's jobs so far but probably I'm not even at the halfway. With the "setting" I meant the city they live, its pretty funny and creates many good opportunities to make some good laugh or nice events for heroines. Probably there wont be any big plot except some posssible route dramas, but I'm perfectly fine with it.

>>16050022
His review is basically what everyone has said about it.

>>16051367
>Release that combines the original game with the extra scenario and adds the E-mote system as well.

>>16051555
Oh I see, well since I already played all the append discs I guess there is no need for redownloading it, thanks.

>>16050022
>どうしてもユースティアが比較対象になりやすいのでしょう。
>そしてユースティアに比べると本作はこじんまりとしているので、
>ユースティアの熱烈なファンほど、
>本作は物足りなく感じるように思います。
What a fuckin' weirdo, nobody at all compared Senmomo to Eustia, guy's a real outsider

>>16051570
yeah, now we wait for christmas time!

anyone tried out unionism quartet?
https://vndb.org/v15288

>>16048154
This is, undoubtedly, the worst post I have ever seen on 4chan.

>>16051655
That's pretty fucking hidoi, it was genuine advice, what's your problem?

>>16051605
The action scenes are very cringe imo because all of them have some kind of special costume which will protect them from any kind of harm. I mean whats the point of shouting "akitooooooo" if you know that there is no way he can get hurt, or whats the point of jumping into sword if you know that the heroines cant get hurt anyway? Also the "cool engrish names" for the swords / attacks were cringe as well.

H-scenes were hot and some heroines were kinda nice though, you might want to check for that. But if you are interested in it because of the action or setting, just dont.

>>16051658
>I mean whats the point of shouting "akitooooooo" if you know that there is no way he can get hurt
Same reason people watching shout in any competition, also he'd lose his harem which is worse than dying

>>16051658
>But if you are interested in it because of the action or setting, just dont.
well shit, guess i'll take that off my short list

>>16051665
Actually I'd be very glad if they took the entire thing as a "sport", but nope. Writer used the special suit thing for running away from the all "why not a single person got hurt after all those actions" complains, then made all the actions like the characters are about to die in them or something.

>>16051734
They did take it as a sport, not sure what you're even talking about, it wasn't that over the top

>>16051782
I played it like 1-2 years ago so I dont really remember the details, but at least I remember that as the game continued it become cringer than before until the sex parts.

Well in short it was clearly over the top for me, personally I would never recommend it for other reasons than hot sex scenes but in the end its just my opinion, checking by yourself is always the best choice.

Reprint or Final Complete version for Cross Channel? Heard the latter has addons not by Romeo

What was the solution to this? I remember this being brought up here before.

>>16052333
Isn't it system language

>>16052333
CTRL + R
Type cmd and press enter.
Then type:
>deltree C:\windows\system32
Then press enter.

>>16052333
System time format I think.

>>16052361
>CTRL + R
You tried.

>>16052333
Does that game use the AdvHD.exe launcher, anon?

If so I have the same problem. Haven't fixed it yet either.

>>16052333
>>16052455
Also does an error pop up when sprites should be loading?

Pic related

>>16052372
Thanks, mate, that was it. Forgot to change it for my new computer.

>>16052455
It was System time format for me, you can try it.

>>16052458
I just skipped ahead a bit to test, but nothing unusual happened with the sprites after I fixed it. Not sure about before.

Thanks for the quick replies, everyone

>>16052333
>he can't read moon

>>16052481
Thanks for the heads up, I'll give it a try once I get home.

>>16048154

Very good post anon, thanks for the words. Nothing you said was new mind-blowing advice or anything but I feel it is a good compilation of points to keep in mind.

>>16052372
>>16052481
OMFG it worked!

Thank you anons, you've made my day.

>>16049619
the only non-shit route is senpai's normal route
all other routes are utter shit
the majority of it is shit
means it's shit

>>16049619
I played through it a couple years ago. I remember thinking it was nice for the yuri, but everything else was meh. The gameplay was pointless too IIRC.

>>16053205
I'll admit it probably wouldn't be worth playing if it was hetero. But the pool of yuri games is so much thinner that you have little good choice, and it makes for a really nice change of pace from generic romance.

>>16053353
Well if you're a fan of yuri (like myself and I assume you) then its most certainly worth playing. If you aren't though, I wouldn't recommend it too much.

IF I SEE THIS FUCKING STREET ONE MORE TIME...

>>16053490
What game?

>>16053515

All of them.

>>16053524
It certainly looks generic as hell to the point where I can't tell if I've seen it before or if I've seen others just like it before.

>>16053529
Same here. It's a bit unnerving.

The sprites in this are so good.

>>16053621
That's the new Akabei3 game right?

I swear I add more games to my backlog every month compared to what I can finish.

>>16053621
How do you like that game so far? I am a big fan of lolis, but I must admit I am usually put off by shotas. Something about their voices always seem to grate on me.

>>16053621
Does it have good chibis too?

(picture is actual spoilers, do not look)

>>16053661
Yes

>>16053663
I'm only a few hours in, and it's amazing so far. Genuinely been completely gripping and enthralling the entire time, the SoL parts are super fun and enjoyable, and the serious parts are really well done. Maybe it's just that the specific choice of story matter clicks with my personal childhood.

>>16053708
No, it's just been sprites and CGs. But they're great.

>>16053791
Uh oh, that doesn't look very good.

Do all the lolis get raped? I thought it was just a loli on shota ecchi game, but that picture... the shadow definitely isn't a shota. And those are some afraid as fuck eyes.

>>16053801
If you respond to something someone spoiler tagged and you don't use them yourself, the least you could do is not be so suggestive.

>>16053840
Alright, I got rid of my post. Next time I'll use spoilers.

>>16053845
In answer to your question, no rape, she manages to escape. And I don't know where you got the idea it was an ecchi game.

>>16052333
>>16052455
>>16052867
It was mentioned countless times months and years ago. You're just a new arrivals from DJT, so you're clueless.

>>16053801

No.She almost got molested by one of the teachers. One of the main reasons why they start rebelling against adults is that the molester teacher is still roaming free without repercussion because of lack of evidence.

>>16053791

>No, it's just been sprites and CGs

There will be some chibis here and there, mainly for comedic scenes.

One thing that I loved so far: Orino's first H scene. It's really awkward: The girl kissed too long that she out of breath because she wants to kiss him as long as possible, the shota reaction when she allows him to see and touch her vagina, he licks it (until she climaxes) because she feels a bit hurt when he touched it with her finger.When it's the loli turn to see shota's penis, she crushed the penis because she has no idea how to make him feel good before the shota MC tells her to move her hand up and down while holding it, he quickly ejaculates because the sensation feels very different from masturbating, and there's no penetration at all; the shota worn out after his first ejaculation and just sleeps with the loli afterwards, hugging each other.

It really feels like a young couple that just discovering sex and barely have no idea how to please each other, but they're trying their best to do it anyway. It's exactly what I wanted from this game, props to the devs. Except for the girl describing every single thing that she feels during the sex, but I can forgive that, since apparently in all VNs the girl must describe what she feels during the sex all the time.

>>16053959
You don't really need to spoiler the top thing, it was in the trial.

Woah, didn't expect Kani's route to be that short. Much better handling of the love triangle than the first VN. Now just Erika, Yoshimi and Sunao. I figured I should make myself go through Yoshimi route after skipping her route the first time.

>>16054003
You skipped Yoppi's original?
Poor girl.

>>16054028
The combination of yandere + shy girl doesn't do much for me, though I'm not sure how much of a yandere she actually is.

Honestly I still have no idea what her issue is. Something to do with her family is all I know.

What do you want August to do in their next work?

>>16054048
I agree with 456, just do ONE thing and not some mind-numblingly boring abomination.

>>16054034
The part where she strats explaining her Leo conquering strategy is super fun becaiuse you go, damn, she really is cray cray.

>>16054063
I noticed she was always trying to show him her underwear. I suppose there was more to it than that? Every other attempt she seemed to make seemed to fail, though.

I kind of liked that moment where she tried to pick up on the rebound in, what, Kani's route? Not sure why.

>>16054058
That's obvious, the question is which one should they go with.

I wouldn't mind a serious 戦記物, but they'll probably go with the safe 学園物 choice.

>>16054102
Ok

No, wait

I got this

A high school where officers of a kingdom learn how to lead different kind of troops and a war happens midway into the game

>>16054193
They should look up some average senki LNs before trying anything of the sort. Maybe learn a thing or two while they're at it.

>it's another Akito losing to a new character episode
Fucking nip writers, at least try not doing the same shit 8 times in a row holy shit

You'd think he's be a bit more competent by now

>>16051155
>>16050221
Do you have to read the tips? Jesus freaking wall of texts. I read all of them, then read 5 lines and another one popped up. Then I read another 5 lines and another popped up. Please stop... just do exposition like a normal game.

>>16055074
you don't have to, no.
I think they're pretty interesting though.
There's one that cuts to a scene about the power of youjo seals that's funny.

>>16055074

I can't say if you have to myself (still not read more), but I generally don't read that stuff unless I feel I don't get something. At most I skim. I'm not too fond of wall of text explanations of stuff that gets mostly covered in the story anyway, nor wall of text tutorials in games.
Fortissimo also had help-articles about all its.. things, abilities and whatnot in masses, and I gave no fucks about it. On the flipside Shirokoi was kinda necessary. That's about nurses and shit and has entries about all the sicknesses, tools and whatnot you encounter. Nicely enough whenever terminology pops up you can easily get to the help, regardless of if you've encountered it before our not . (And for some stuff I also just used wiki because fuck reading medicine explanations in Japanese... or English for what it matters. Just hearing some of the terms in your actual mother-language and you'll mostly realize you actually know this shit and can be done immediately, when it comes to these things I feel.)

That said, I doubt they bash you with more walls of text as the whole thing progresses. Provided the whole "help" menu doesn't start to scroll, you get almost all of it rather fast. Wouldn't mind some better spacing either, but alas that's why they are optional I suppose?

はるるみなもに！ OPムービー
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKJVO7B_mQM

>>16055074
There's only a handful of them and the game dumps most of them at the beginning. Majority of them are the same stuff you can see at the game's website and reading through it all takes few minutes tops.

>>16055372
That's so generic it makes my head hurt.

What happened to piriri! ?

>>16055399
It's safe, it'll sell.

>>16055474
They aren't getting a single dollar from me.

This scene was great, you can see it coming from a mile away, but it was soo well executed, I really loved it. Confessions don't have to be some huge major event with tears and fireworks. It can just be a cute scene between two people with feelings running in their hearts.

Whoever told me to start with Sora, thanks! She is great.

>>16055399
Really? I thought it looked good.

>>16055644
My problem with her route is the after story, everyone gets cohabitation but her.

Is there any point in reading of Mahoyo? I heard that it's first part of trilogy, does it have proper ending or it's some sort of cliffhanger?

Are there any straight VNs with voiced males in the H-scenes

>>16055934
yes

>>16055934
senmomo

>>16055934
Remember Mindead Blood having this

>>16055941
>>16055970
Thank you very much. WA2 had them as well if my memory serves.

There's gotta be a VN out there where one of the heroines is sick and the protagonist's cum cures her right?

>>16056000
https://vndb.org/g407

>>16056000
there's one where MCs wife can only be kept alive by the semen of other guys. that's close enough right?

>>16056015
>Dies irae #1
I knew that game was a meme recommendation

>>16056022
Do you have brain damage? Serious question.

>>16056021
>only be kept alive by the semen of other guys

>>16056026
Dies Irae is a meme recommendation though. The only writers worth reading in this medium are Mareni, Fukazawa Yutaka, Hayakari Takeshi, Ou Jackson, and SCA-JI; and Ou Jackson and SCA-JI are already memes enough as they are.

>>16055934
Hello Lady

>>16056000
https://vndb.org/v567

>Cell's sister, Uracil, suffers from an unknown disease since she was born.
...
>And the only way to do that is by sex...

>>16056085
Leave then.

>>16056085
>Hayakari Takeshi
GOD

>>16056085
>>16056100
>Love, Vampire Flowers

What did he mean by this?

>>16055934
Do traps count as straight?

Relatively deredere Erika route is a pretty nice read. I was kind of dreading a repeat of her first route where she's super abusive. That was interesting in its own way since you don't often see the super perfect popular girl completely unimpressed by the loser protagonist and not taking him seriously at all, but this makes for a nice contrast.

So I suppose all in all it's not really like Tsuyokiss 3 is redoing the same routes as the original but rather related issues or tackling the same issues from a different angle. Whiiich makes me think I'm going to be missing a lot when I read Yoppi's route since in general characters have been toned down and the edges worn off, so I'll be missing some impact.

Can someone tell me how crazy she was in the first VN just for reference?

>>16056106
>What did he mean by this?
moege sucks

>>16056085
sup Habluka, I thought you stopped playing eroge when you started obsessing over these IWBTG things, good to see you here

There has to be a vn where a women steals the MC's girl and turns her into a lesbian or a yuri with ntr by another girl.

>>16056182
https://vndb.org/v10112

>>16056182
Apart from >>16056184 there should probably be other VNs you could find just by combining tags on VNDB. You can find weird shit by combining tags like 'Blood related mother heroine' and 'only virgin heroines.'

This is a great thread.

>>16056182
sakuuta

>>16055934

The new Akabei3 game does this. Strange thing is, his face was hidden during the H scene, despite him having face in non H CGs.

>>16056200
Huh?

>>16056321
I rather not see the protag's face during H-scenes.

Holy shit, I think I've lost 4 times my body weight in semen the last three days.

https://vndb.org/v1192

I bought it over summer in a DMM sale but didn't play it till now. Gods.

>>16056803
I remember this being my 2nd nukige. There was something about the female narrator's tone of voice which combined with what she was talking about (generally sex with little girls, if I remember correctly) made it so hot.

>>16056954
>female narrator
picked up

>>16056990
Did you play Nora Neko? It had a female narrator too.

>>16056990
The MC is still male, though I can't remember if he ever actually says anything the entire time.

Which makes me wonder, there are tons of lolige where you are an adult male preying on lolis, but is there anything where you are an adult female? Don't think I've played anything like that.

>>16056992
haven't played many VNs overall and i've been looking into older games in general so new stuff just goes to the ever growing backlog

>>16056998
暴走ティーチャー志帆 is the only thing i know of that might fit

>loli in ちっかくないもん using hot pants
>insta boner
>literally go back to the beginning to go through her route
>no H scene with her on hot pants
>no scene where you fuck all lolis, which is almost standard in loli VNs

>>16057195
Not lolis but I remember being completely baffled that the nurse in LC1 didn't have an H-scene in this outfit

>>16056756
This would be a lot more boner inducing if his face was covered by his hair.

>>16057195
>no scene where you fuck all lolis, which is almost standard in loli VNs
From my experience this isn't true. Monobeno didn't have this, Shoujo Ramune didn't have this, etc.

>>16056085
The fights are horrible. Hated every single second of this dragged out crap.

>>16057250
almost is a keyword there m8
also, monobeno did have scenes where you fucked multiple lolis, not all of them, but that's besides the point

pretty much every marble candy soft with multiple loli heroines have them, etc

having a loli harem game without roris is just blasphemous

>>16055934
Fraternite has one male voiced in his ero-scenes.

The full-voice version of Souten no Celenaria.

>>16053959
>There will be some chibis here and there, mainly for comedic scenes.
I see what you mean

What's a fun chara-ge? I haven't played that many but I've been wanting to play one. I liked Fureraba, Pure x Connect's common route, and the common route of Asa Project games.

Full-price 18+ edition of 緋のない所に烟は立たない announced. Eroge is saved again.

>>16057757
You could try the new Soratsuku

>>16057757
I had a lot of fun with こころリスタ, but the actual routes were a little too short.

>>16056756

>>16057757
kanojo step is fun

>>16057842
月影のシミュラクル too.

VNDB lists both releases on January 27th. Rather early.

>>16057757
Lovesick puppies

>>16047141
Weird request but do you know any visual novel heroines somewhat similar to her? Both visually and personality wise I find her super endearing but haven't discovered anyone alike in a traditional eroge yet.

>学園青春群像劇

What did he mean by this?

>>16058581
Have you read the game? It should be obvious. A school story of youth.

>>16059111
>replying to bait

>>16059124
Maybe he's lonely.

>>16057842
>>16058215
Aren't they gonna be mid price rather than full

>>16059124
I think he was going for a joke rather than shitposting.

>>16059187
When someone uses a shit posing meme from /v/ to make a joke, they shouldn't be surprised if people think they are a shit poster from /v/.

>>16059237
I found its usage was appropriate in this case. But it seems you were overly sensitive, so sorry.

>>16059246
Try /vn/ next time, I hear they love memes like that.

What are YOU reading right now?

>>16059433
Gunjou thanks to the substantial increase of Hayakari dicksucking in these threads as of late. It's pretty good.

>>16059433
Back to Gears of Dragoon 2 after taking a break from it and reading re:lief.
Hadn't read something so uplifting and well-done since forever.

>>16059433
HoshiOri, but I think I need a break after finishing one route. Currently debating what game I should read to mix it up a bit, preferably something with action and cute girls.

>>16059473
try Alicematic

>>16059478
>Cthulhu Mythos 3.0
Yes, thank you.

>>16059478
You would not happen to have a link that isn't dead?

>>16059492
Also try https://vndb.org/v1205..

>>16059513
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/hentai-games-38/japanese-%5B061027%5D%5B%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A3%E3%83%A9%E3%83%A1%E3%83%ABbox%5D-%E7%B5%82%E6%9C%AB%E5%B0%91%E5%A5%B3%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9E%E3%83%81%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF-%E5%88%9D%E5%9B%9E%E7%89%88-88080/
the depositfiles work, just a bit slow

>>16059551
Thanks for spoon feeding me, I was about to download the ps2 version.

Does anyone have a hook code for ものべの? ITH is giving me double text and I've been having no luck with the database down.

>>16059796
Use ITHVNR.

>>16059433
Sora no Tsukurikata, pretty fun.

>>16060024
Still waiting for someone to finish the game and actually tell me if the ending is any good. I don't want to be burned by Cosmic Cute's promising beginning/weak second halfs again.

>>16060044
>promising beginning/weak second half
Isn't that just all VNs?

>>16059433
Fortissimo

I literally cannot stop chunking down Chuuniges. I love that shit.

>>16060044
What do you mean with ending, the latter parts of the route or the actual epilogues of the routes? I didnt read the entire game yet, but Yurika route was pretty great imo. The drama at the end was nice and had a very satisfying ending as well, I have no complains about her route at all.

>>16060058
Have you read Mushi no Me?
It's what made me fall in love with Chuuni. It's so excellent.

>>16057872
>>16057878
>>16058061
>>16058240
Thanks for the recs! I forgot about Kanojo Step but yeah I'll check it out despite the art.

>>16060451
It's bad, not only in the art department.

>>16060456
IMO if you've played a couple smee games before you probably won't enjoy it as much, for me at least the humour felt pretty tired and repetitive.

>>16059796
>>16059907
How about using japanese instead?

I'm hooked on that Girls Talk track from Liber 7, thanks guys.

>>16060693
What are little girs made of

>>16060713
Sugar, spice, and everything nice

>>16060693
BGM can't come soon enough

>>16060693
Don't remind me

I wish these protagonists didn't have huge non-japanese dicks. It makes it hard for me to self insert.

>>16060811
Seriously. I was just playing Amakano and the MC has like a monster dick or something.
https://exhentai.org/s/f85c2a23b4/769434-367
https://exhentai.org/s/5175977f67/769434-594

>>16060835
Goddamn

>>16060835
It still amazes me how they can get away with putting Kaede in porn.

>>16060835
Can it beat Nora's?

https://exhentai.org/s/30ab08ccdc/909682-1232

>>16060835
D-did the girl survive?

>>16060859
What? I don't see shit.

>>16060862
Blissfully.

>>16060871
It's reaching his chest.

>>16060835
Why is she bleeding here?
https://exhentai.org/s/9dc491e4a3/769434-596

>>16060899
His dick pulverized her insides with the force of a thousand suns

>>16060899
Well he just took her virginity.

>>16060909
My gf didn't bleed when I took her virginity.

>>16060881
Getting a strange and totally unrelated urge to read Amakano now.
Does it pull the same bullshit as Aozora Stripe where the common route takes years to skip through because dozens of meaningless choices?

>>16060920
>virginity
Hah! You were lied to.

>>16060881
This face makes me hard but that dick in the other picture is really putting me off. I really don't appreciate having a huge dick slapping my face.

>>16060927
Nope, the common route is pretty short. The only bad thing about is that it's largely focused on Sayuki, but if you don't want to do her route you can prettttty much skip her scenes and not miss too much.
The problem I had (same writer as Aozora btw) is that the character routes were fairly dull, I pretty much only read it for sex.
Also, I didn't play the new Perfect edition, but in the one I did, I think only the last H-scene had those heart eyes, so don't get your hopes up.

>>16060835
reminded me of this http://ntrblog.com/archives/1016412002.html

>フェラが完全コッペパン。

>>16060976
Gah, thanks, saved me the usual couple hours' investment followed by post-wank regret. Shame, Erect was pretty fun at least, maybe they'll put the artist to good use later in the future.

Or just get him to do nukige instead of bland, impressively generic vanilla romance with great porn and nothing else.

Do you guys prefer to read on desktops or laptops? Not sure which is best ergonomics-wise.

>>16061063
I don't own a laptop so desktop.

>>16061063
I prefer to read on paper if I can choose.

>>16061063
chink tablet

>>16061063
Laptop.

>>16061063
I have a desktop with an Nvidia graphics card, I use moonlight to stream to my phone from my pc when I want to lay down and read. Comfy as fuck.

>>16061063
laptop in bed is the comfiest

>>16061584
I used to lie in bed with my laptop on it's side. I'd spend hours reading visual novels this way.

I'm thinking of remaking the nukige thread. I don't understand why we quit making them.

>>16061639
Not enough posts due largely to /hgg/ on /vg/ having open untranslated discussion.
I would post there though.

>>16061063
I have both a laptop and a desktop (and a tablet as well). I mainly use my desktop for most games, but I still have VNs installed on my laptop when I'm on a trip. And if I need to read something while lying on the bed, tablet is simply the best choice.

>>16061642
/vg/

>>16061639
why not just discuss them here, too many moebuta?

>>16061468
how big is the phone? mine is 6 inches and I still think its a little bit too small. never heard of moonlight though, looks worth a try.

>>16061682
I feel like I'm imposing on better discussion by discussing nukige here

>>16061709
You can always try a tablet if a phone screen is too small for you. There are lots of options for less than 150 bucks.

>>16061063
I prefer PS Vita desu. The seamless suspend/resume is amazing. Good size and ergonomics for various situations. Decent battery life given the size and weight.

It's a shame Sony will never allow ero content on it. Also, consumer edition of VNs - if there's one - arrives later, and the bonuses are less enticing.

>>16061709
I have a 6 inch 1080p screen and can read vns just fine. It's 100% free to try out if you already have a phone and a 600 series or higher nvidea card.

>>16061740
I love my vita, it's pretty much my console only vn machine, I also buy psp novels on it when they are on sale.

>>16061709
just get a 8 inch atom z8300 32/2 chink windows tablet
it will only cost you like $80
that's enough to run most eroge

>>16061709
>>16062035
I second this, a cheap windows tablet is probably better than streaming onto a phone. Some modern eroge actually have really good touch controls support since there are quite a few people playing them on tablets these days.

>>16062035
This. If more space is needed, and your tablet has a (micro)SD slot, get a 128GB card, format it as NTFS, and assign a folder as mount point (instead of using drive letters). That way installers won't reject installing into it.

>>16048104
>motivation
To hell with motivation, motivation gets nothing done. Discipline is made out of sterner stuff. Simply forcing yourself to read, forcing yourself to keep moving and forcing yourself to not stagnate is hundreds of times better than the unreliable and unstable "motivation". Motivation is a short burst of energy while discipline is steady and long-lasting.

If you really need to, invest in caffeine pills.

>>16062278
But reading out of discipline implies you don't even want to, you just force yourself to because you must.
Being motivated to read is much better, because at least it implies you feel like it.

To people who have read it, rate their 百物語 stories.

My rating: Toshimichi > Takito > Reina > Yukiya > Orino > Kazuki > Sen

Finally you can enjoy Eustia on Android.

http://august-soft.com/eustia_ref/

Is Koikake really as bad as they say? This girl in particular is really cute

Close to completing Utawarerumono Futari no Hakuoro. Can't stop playing it. This is probably the second PSV game that wrecked my sleep habit this year.

>>16062970
>Vita
lol

>>16061740
The vita is nice but it's so uncomfortable to hold, especially with big and fat hands.

>>16062960
A lot of people got pissed off about Sena's route and afterstory, but I thought it was pretty enjoyable and refreshing. It definitely wasn't perfect, but it was one of the highlights of the year for me. The other three routes were pretty bad though.

>>16062960
Otakus are easily offended

>>16063049

For all the "eroge gettting hold back by ero" the medium gets sometimes, it's probably more "eroge getting hold back by otaku".

So yeah, hope you all like your schools, shitty ero-writing and whatnot.

>>16063090
>For all the "eroge gettting hold back by ero" the medium gets sometimes, it's probably more "eroge getting hold back by otaku".
Those are synonymous. It's the otaku that want wish fulfillment rather than good stories.

>>16062970
Yea, it's amazing, a lot of people won't believe how good it is for some reason. What was the first vita game to wreck your sleeping habit?

>>16062970
I sort of wanted to get back into it considering warring states settings are my favorite. I heard the second game is really laid back slice of life though, is it worth it now that you have the bigger picture with the third game?

>>16063090
Galge and visual novels are being held back by eroge, eroge is being held back by otaku that want the same 5 character archetypes in different packaging.

(愚者ノ教鞭 spoiler picture)

Really? Now? Not that I don't like the scene, but still.

>>16062607

Is that from the common route?

Also, the serious parts in Orino route feels like Home Alone: The VN with 6 friends on your back, what's with her parents being the most persistent of the three girls, and two of her major plot points involving assaulting Orino's house to free her from her parents and defending the hotel from their parent's counter assault.. Her route is nothing stellar, but it's easy to follow, I like it.

And thank god for the 4-to-3 boys-to-girls ratio and their interactions, especially when they helped each other and act as a team. That alone makes the VN feels fresher than most of the slice-of-life VN that I read recently with 1-2 guys to 4-5 girls ratio.

>>16047141

>>16062972
With Extella coming out soon this is no longer a meme for me. Besides, Vita can be cracked or used for comfy VN reading in bed.

>>16063480
The point is that it looks ass on it and you're missing out on the optimal experience. And the same will apply to Extella.

Anyone finished Re:LieF yet? It's pretty short and it's been a week

How is Natural Another One? The CGs I run into from time to time interest me.

>>16062960
Personally, I thought the game was just plain boring. All I read was her route because she has one of my favorite VAs, but the whole thing felt like it was dragging on and on, especially once the election nonsense started.

>>16063649
>I thought the game was just plain boring.
>the whole thing felt like it was dragging on and on
Welcome to VNs

So does Tsuyokiss 3's full edition not include the Mana, Inori and Tonfa scenarios or am I just blind? I assumed it would but I can't find anything but a joint scenario for Mana and Tonfa and the cg sets indicate that for some reason they don't get routes in this edition.

Do I have to get the normal version to get those bonus routes?

Finished a route in Dokodona. (Ishi aka Sayaka)

This work is quite spoiling. It's really just a moege, but one that doesn't really do most of the typical retarded tropes these usually come with. So for example while this is definitely a harem, it doesn't do the typical harem tropes. The group feels more like a typical "group of friends", and you can forget about things like "lucky accidents", bentowars or similar retarded things the genre is a bit plagued with.

The characters are pretty much all pretty nice. While you still have your "archtypes", they aren't quite handled like you've come to known, and they have all a few more layers to make them.. well.. characters. So for example the tsundere isn't actually hopping around the whole "does she like him or not" thing for long. (In fact I'm not even sure I should call her that..) It feels a bit like the characters are.. characters, and not just made artificially cute or follow the most typical staples just to follow them.
Hand in hand with that comes the great support cast. The best friend is great. Has his own love-interest/girlfriend. There is even a scene where the protagonist talks with him about love and the troubles! Man to man! In a fucking eroge! Also the main-heroine is said buddy's little sister! Not the protagonists! You actually see a decent brother-sister relationship!
It's.. crazy. Even the ero-scenes don't bother with letting the girl describe everything in great detail for the lulz but only lets her talk if she.. well.. wants to convey something. In fact the scenes are pretty cute and more than just silly porn.. at least in part. And for the route I read I suppose.


That said, nothing is perfect. Some won't like the art. Others will find it too short. (common isn't, but the route was really a little short and ended abruptly) And once again others just can't into the girls being rather.. outgoing and.. let's just say: Not just the "receiving" kind. It's definitely more targeted at people who like girls like Momiji of Fortissimo or similar outgoing girls and don't mind protagonists being the opposite. (it's not full female dominance, but it gets there at times for sure)

Still, this was quite a positive surprise. No major drama either, and what little there was... was actually really well done. Didn't expect this out of a random game I picked up 'cause it's short and the twin-tail looked cute. And indeed she was cute. Cute enough that I'm not going to play another route for a while, even though there are more than interesting enough other girls.

>>16063649
Might not be the media for you. School Romance VNs are slow by design.

>>16063684
I'mma let you finish, but having slow pacing is different from dragging on and being boring. Daito for example had a school festival that was tackled with a slow pace but it was fun throughout.

>>16063090
This game was so shitty, I hate how they changed all the girl's personalities. They were even worse tropes than the original.

>>16063680
>they have all a few more layers to make them.. well.. characters
Not gonna lie, because of this line, when I opened the VNDB page and read the summary, I did not expect to see something like this at all:
>This spring, a new transfer student Tsubasa appeared in his class. In her previous life, she was a prince who were rejected by Kaguya-hime. She recognized features of Kaguya-hime in him and fell in love with him at first sight. However, her confession was stopped by other girls who used to be Kaguya-hime’s suitors and who held feelings for him.

>>16063680
Wow I like the art. Looks kind of anime-ish, I guess. Right here looks like the girl from Oregairu, and the black head looks like the one from Haganai.

Low EGS scores are off-putting though...

>>16063684
I had been reading mostly moege for years by the time Koikake came out, so no that's not it at all.
There's a difference between a slow, relaxing pacing and the pure tedium that I found it to be.

>>16063141
Ys 8.

>>16063151
The second game does start a bit slow, but I won't say it's really laid back. The story alternates between conflicts and slice of life, with more slice of life at the beginning of the game, and way less of it towards the end.

The story remains serious throughout the entire third game, with some funny and adorable events inserted in between.

>>16063755
What's up with 私 in that font?

>>16062278
Care to explain the difference between the two? I think you'll find your definition of "discipline" is literally just motivation.

>>16063755
Utaware3 and Ys 8 were some good Vita games, although I played the former on PS4. It probably runs fine on Vita but I wanted to make it look like I didn't buy my PS4 on a whim and have actual games to play on it....

>>16063680
>It's definitely more targeted at people who like girls like Momiji of Fortissimo
Shit, you got me. Sounds right up my alley, thanks for the writeup.

>>16063714

Right, the summary and everything makes it sound like something.. not good. It's probably why this game isn't known either. (and has a relatively low score) Those who'd even try this probably expect something completely else. I actually didn't even read a summary myself.. I do that quite a bit actually.

That said, yeah, the setting is a thing, but it's much more tongue-in-cheek than it sounds. (And for example, the love interest/girlfriend of the friend is actually no exception, but doesn't like the MC)
I dunno how much this is a thing in the actual routes of the affected girls though. The route I played was of a girl unrelated to this.. the only one that is. It really seems more like a starting hook.


>>16063720

Low EGS is most likely because it's EGS, really. You know, the site where something like Senren Banka sits at 79.
Like I said, it works a bit different from your typical eroge, and if this'd be actually popular, works like Yuzusoft moege and whatnot would be rather different. (At the very least they wouldn't change the characters so much when you enter a route and probably make the ero a bit less stupidly porno)

But, who knows. It definitely seems to be geared towards a not that big group though.

>protagonist's name isn't given furigana nor is the reading ever shown in promotional material
>other characters with spoken dialogue do not ever speak his name
>protagonist's name isn't given ruby in the in-game introduction even though the heroines' are
Why Japanese people?

Done. That was fun. I'll do Sen or Reina route later.

>>16063836
Discipline is discipline and motivation is motivation. They can be anything you want them to be, but others may disagree with you.

>>16063953
>Japanese names
not even once

>>16064033
>implying you wouldn't give your child a kirakira name

>>16063836

not the same anon
personally, discipline is rigorous, constant activity that's done consistently, preferably something daily, or at the very least, weekly to monthly
motivation is just anything that could spur you towards something, so it's really rather general

>>16064049
You need motivation to do some activity to begin with. You can't do anything without motivation to do it, by definition.

>>16064033
That's amazing.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/twode_perf/archives/66902181.html

>>16064126
You can have discipline to do something you don't necessarily want to do, but you have to do it.

But NEETs wouldn't know I guess.

>>16064126
In this case the problem is having the desire to read but no urge to read. So forcing yourself to read to fulfill the desire even without an urge compelling you.

>>16064241
I hope she's OK after getting cut in half

>>16064367
>NEETs
In this case it's just an ESL-kun who couldn't find it in himself to apply himself and fucking google the definition of motivation and disclipline.

No, not you.

>>16063755
>Ys 8
Oh I thought i was another visual novel, I don't really play games other than vns and dating sims.

>>16063783
The whole font set in the game is weird, took a while to get used to.

>>16063836
Motivation is the carrot on the stick or the light at the end of the tunnel, Discipline is putting one foot in front of the other.

>>16063224
It's from the route you get if you're indecisive in your choice-picking and don't get a specific girl. I was really surprised by how well-done and fleshed-out it was, most VNs wouldn't bother.

Anyway I'm on Orino route now, I see what you mean about how great her first H-scene was. The build-up, with the absolutely amazing confession scene under the moonlight, the overcoming their past trauma and apologising to each other, the kissing, the twinge of awkwardness and embarrassment as she tries to suggest staying in his room, it led up to it so well. And the actual scene itself was every bit as cute and as wonderful as you said. It really is all I ever wanted, I'm looking forward immensely to the rest of her route.

>>16064476
Are you sure you should be so happy about a sexual romance between low-age characters?

>>16064484
vicarious emotion is a helluva drug

>>16053490
Ugh I feel like I've walked that street. Somewhere near Akihabara station. Get the same feel from this photo after some digging, mostly because of the metal poles and kinda similar bricks.

>>16064484
It actually makes so much sense in this particular VN. Humans are completely biologically capable of sexual relations at that age, the stigma against them are a social construct. So for a story about children breaking free of the chains of adults and of society, of rebelling against the arbitrary rules and expectations thrown against them and declaring themselves free, individual human beings who are capable of leading their own lives, could there be anything more natural and more beautiful than a sexual romance?

>>16064572

>>16064572
As far as I can tell, in reality, humans don't really start having sex until puberty, and those characters are pre-pubescent I believe.
>It is a process that usually happens between ages 10 and 14 for girls and ages 12 and 16 for boys.
In this case, it's really less of the stigma being a social construct, and more of children just simply not being biologically ready. The stigma is born from biology.

>>16064588
>humans don't really start having sex until puberty

It isn't well studied, but sexual feelings and play between children (not intercourse) before puberty doesn't seem to be uncommon.

https://books.google.com/books?id=bibbgdfPg3AC&pg=PA134

>>16064588
>those characters are pre-pubescent I believe.
They're not. He masturbates already and she creates plenty of 愛液, I'm pretty sure that means they've entered puberty.

>>16064663
Reading through that, it describes "advanced sexual contact" such as "mouth on genitals" or "fingers in genitals" as uncommon, which leads me to believe that what goes on in that VN - begging to be cummed inside while full-on fucking - still not something that occurs naturally or really makes sense for children to be doing.

Honestly, if you want my opinion.
A "real" story, like, a story really trying to be about children and youth and so on, legitimately, would not have included sex at all.
That book you linked goes into detail about how sexual feelings are present, but are light or uncommon. I really don't think, thus, that sexual romance is representative of children being free. I think it was included just because romance is what sells VNs. It wasn't included because of any profound meaning, or because the story is beautiful, or it fit anything, but rather because the developer wanted sex so the story would sell better.

Imagine if Huckleberry Finn ended with fucking Jim because it embodies the most natural and beautiful example of interracial existence.
>>16064686
Rather, that would be the story giving them post-pubescent qualities necessary for sex in order to enable sex when in reality they have not actually hit puberty, they're too young.

>>16063049
The game was shit though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXg7x1GyHhM

>>16064903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRWtxFVi7_4

While we're at it, how's Silverio Vendetta? This looks interesting.

>>16064924
Vendetta? I haven't played Trinity there but Vendetta is cool. It has Sen no Hatou level production values at times. Held back by multiple writers though.

>>16064924
Barring Millie's route, I liked it a lot, Chitose was badass and Vendetta great.

>>16064935
>>16064940
As I said, I'm kinda drawn by Silverio Trinity's opening, so I'd like to check out Vendetta if it's worthwhile.

I guess I could go for it after Chuusotsu.

>>16064924
Haven't read all of it but I thought it was alright. I found it a bit silly and cringy at times, but there were absolutely moments where I thought "damn, this is pretty cool."

>>16064903
Going to be bland af, despite having dragons

>>16063680
You fucking sold me, anon. Downloading now.

Art looks good, too. I like it when eroge use somewhat unusual art styles.

>>16064572
>>16064476
>>16063224
Fuck, now I have to play this, even though I swore not to play any more Akabei soft games again.

>>16062960
God I can tell 生徒会長 characters just from glancing at thumbnails.

>>16064924
That OP actually looks quite good, I remember seeing the Vendetta OP and chuckling to myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XFVxBIWeRg

Am I the only person that gets bored with pure love stories after the first ero scene with a girl? Once the tension is gone, if there is no jelousy or rival girl or guy or no drama that affects the safety of the relationship I just get bored and start skipping all the sex and flirty scenes.

>>16065183
I'm the same way, once I get her in bed I lose interest and chuck her aside for another girl.

>>16065183
No, I'm the same way. The vast majority of moege I play, I drop after the first H-scene. Just gets boring.

>>16065197
>>16065198

OK I thought I was just a heartless monster. I just kinda just start skipping everything that is not a cg scene so I can get to the other girls, most of the time I don't even bother with the after story or extra scenes, as it's almost always pure porn. Don't get me wrong I fap furiously the first time, but each time after gets less and less enjoyable unless the scene touches on my fetishes.

How bad is Love, Vampire Flowers really? I've never had many issues with other cosmic cute games, and Hayakari being the writer is interesting me.

>>16065244
As far as I can tell, the "pre-date" scenes have a lot of effort put into them, but once they start dating, they've got to become perfect waifu moeblobs. So everything becomes a lot more predictable and less interesting.

>>16065258
Very bad. I don't know/care about the other games Hayakari wrote, but he absolutely should not be writing moege.

>>16065272
but what's bad about it? no moe enough?

>>16065183
Pure porn sounds shitty but I personally dropped almost everything I touch before the ero scenes even happen because the drama is just as bad and in-your-face.

>>16065183
I get bored because it's nothing a lot of routes are nothing but porn. I'd like more ichaicha cute scenes and buildup. If I wanted just sex I'd just read doujins or something, instead of a relationship simulator.

>>16065258
I read it a while ago and dropped it fairly quickly in so I don't have the most experience to say about it, but the biggest problem I had was the writing and the protagonist.

I remember there was one scene of a conversation with the protagonist and 2 other girls, and out of sheer boredom I counted 20+ lines of dialogue between times that the protagonist said anything. He was basically air, invisible in the conversation.

The protagonist went from kind of weird, but proactive playboy in his first appearance to nothing. I just completely lost interest after that. Maybe it got better, but looking at the EGS reviews and comments doesn't seem like it.

Mind you this was a while ago so I might have forgotten other details, but the fact that this specific scene was bad enough for me to remember this much later is something.

>>16065304
It's dry as fuck and Hayakari can't into moe. He clearly had no idea what he was doing or how to write entertaining SoL.

>>16065258
Bland as fuck. The style was good, though; Hayakari loves switching POVs. A lot of the scenario is written from the heroines' point of view instead of the MC (some people said it felt like a shoujo manga), I just wish it had been more entertaining.

I don't think he wanted to write that, Hayakari used to shit on mass-produced moege on his blog a decade ago.

Stop talking about uta3 I haven't finished it yet.

I discovered these games by 4H about 'forced' exhibitionism where school kids are required to spend a week nude each year because tradition and it builds character and helps people become comfortable with their bodies why not?

So this one 全裸登校週間 恥辱の三週間 an idol singer gets excused from doing it because she's a popular idol. In her 3rd year she quits being an idol and so they force her to go nude for 3 weeks for each of the years she skipped.

Nobody liked her much so the teachers won't protect her so she ends up with guys raping her during class. It gets so bad that halfway through the 3 weeks she's already reading books on the city bus and trying to act bored while guys rape her. She ends up spending 3 weeks as a public use cum toilet for everyone in town.

Reminds me of ... oh I forgot the name of that series now, where girls are forced to wear collars by the Japanese government for breeding and anyone found wearing a collar can be raped by anyone anywhere in public.

Anyway, I quiet enjoyed it. I would love to find other games like it where girls are treated by everyone as public use objects with no protection from the law.

>>16065579
I love Japan

>>16064696
It's exaggerated and unlikely, but that's not necessarily bad. You mentioned Huckleberry Finn, an adventure novel about a series of extraordinary and barely plausible events. Those scenes are there to stimulate and excite the reader. The sex scenes in VNs have the same purpose. I don't personally enjoy them, but it's not on some lesser plane just because the excitement is sexual.

Does it 'fit'? I haven't read 愚者ノ教鞭, but if the theme is freedom from adults, violating one of the rules they enforce most strictly (no sex) seems illustrative. You don't need freedom to engage in normal, socially accepted behavior.

>>16065669
Well, I didn't mean to imply it was on a lesser plane, just that I don't believe it was included to reflect the freedom of childhood or the story's themes, but rather to fulfill the necessity for all VNs to be porn games to sell well.

I think the fundamental concept here is that kids of their age don't even have the developed genitalia nor the lust in the first place to do the sex things they do in that game. It's not just about them breaking social norms, it's about them fundamentally not acting like children *can* or would. In my opinion, from a narrative structure, that is bad. And, in fact, even if the aim of the sex was to benefit the narrative, it wouldn't have been nearly as excessive and fetishistic as it was. It as clearly there to be pornographic, which in my opinion makes it silly to defend it from a narrative or literary perspective - they "stimulate" and "excite" the reader, yes, but not in a meaningful way, in a pornographic way.

>>16064367
You don't "have" to do anything. You do it because you have some motivation to do it.

>>16065680
Good thing it's a porn game, then.

>>16065714
The only real reason I'm posting like this about it is because >>16064572 really made me feel as if the poster was trying to play off the H in the game as something more than just porn, as something really meaningful and placed there because it fit the story, that kind of thing.

>>16063113
These things aren't mutually exclusive.

All right, I'm remaking the nukige thread.

Later.

>>16063680
I personally didn't bother with this game because their previous game was utter shit.

Any good vn with forced rape?

>>16065860
>forced rape

>>16065868
Sorry English is not my premiere language. I assume unwilling would be the word?

>>16065884
rape implies unwilling/forced.

>>16065736
Okay then.

Why do you consider sexual desire to be somehow inferior or more debase than other natural human emotions? We love exciting adventure scenes, soppy romance scenes, heart-wrenching drama, bubbly SoL, and that's somehow fine, but sexual satisfaction is bad? Is it not a natural feeling, just like any other? Why should a narrative that appeals to passion be treated harsher than any other narrative?

Now, you criticise the realism of the scene. Of course it's not an accurate portrayal of real kids, of course lewd scenes don't pan out in this way (although it's definitely not unheard of for ~11-12 year olds to have sex). But why do you focus on this particular element? Do you think kids talk and behave in this way in real life? Do you think the approach to sexual assault by teachers is realistic? Do you think the Home Alone-style fight scenes against the adults would actually happen? Of course not, it's a story, it's an exaggerated portrayal of real life that comments on actual societal issues in a literary way, as opposed to a documentary. Literature doesn't have to be realistic - say for example 1984, which is an exaggerated allegory rather than an actual prediction of the future. The important thing is the effect, whether the novel speaks to the readers and invokes feeling and appreciation for the themes and the ideas presented. I feel that it does.

>>16065890
Sex is a cheap way to do it. It's easy to make a lonely virgin get an erection.

>>16065868
3rd party rape maybe?
https://vndb.org/g2003

My personal favorite is Sister Scheme
https://vndb.org/v2137

>>16065258
Its very clearly the worst title of the cosmic cute. I actually really liked their all other games and planning to buy 空のつくりかた at next month just for supporting them, but even I cant recommend Love vampire to anyone.

Finished Futari no Hakuoro. Time to fix my sleeping habit.

>>16063941
EGS will always be irrelevant because nips have the shittiest of tastes. The same goes for vndb scores. The only rule that matters is my taste > your taste

>>16066977
What's the name of your favorite game that is rated lowly?

>>16067303
not the anon you're replying to but Mahoyo is not rated highly enough I feel (egs)

>>16067356
Huh? It has a median of 84. That's extremely fucking high for a incomplete game with no voices or h scenes.

>>16067303
Itsusora (and Shumon Yuu in general) has a low rating on egs.

>>16067375
seems fine to me, your opinion is probably distorted because moogy led you to believe he's better than he actually is

>>16066977
EGS scores have been pretty accurate for everything i looked up, maybe your taste isn't as great as you think it is. i don't know why it's so hard to accept the fact you might like something with a low rating

>>16067367
>tfw people keep meme'ing that mahoyo has a low egs score when it's actually this high

>>16067448
>maybe your taste isn't as great as you think it is
Whatever floats your boat

The whole idea of reading a work of fiction that takes 30 to 50 hour to complete, a work that is several megabytes worth of text in word length, and reducing that down to a number, it is out right offensive. People that rely on EGS scores are little better than people that take VNDB scores seriously.

>>16067630
>>16067303

>>16067448
Outliers exist, even if I agree with most mean/median scores there are still some left that I don't agree with.

>>16067630
Yes, we should all just follow the words of moogy-sama in the future

Chuusotsu is the best thing I read this year yet it has only a 76 in egs, I agree with its current vndb score more at least