/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Found this in Akihabara yesterday.

Did any of you fags want it uploaded?

>>15968166
kusoge

>>15968166
Based on the reviews I've read, it sounds like it's not even worth pirating.

>>15968166
I'm reading the first story, the one about the hikikomori guy, and so far it's quite good. Will have to speed up because really want to read the Vespio one.

>>15968166
Sure.

Is there a recommended route order to Nanarin?

>>15968474
Only Kotoris is a real route, the others are just there for porn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXC_yWSONkM

>>15968474
I recommend doing Kotori's first because it has the most impact, doing the others kinda lessens the impact.

>>15968166
I really would like it uploaded, yes. Been itching to read Vespio.

>>15968474
Kotori's route and at the last choise pick (not actually any spoilerous text but just in case) そうかもしれない。
That's the canon ending of her route and only route worth doing. The other routes spoil the main twists of her route so just skip them.

I love it when VNs do insert songs (the thing where vocals start to play during intense scenes).

What VN has the most memorable scene with an insert song for you?

>>15969468
Itaike na Kanojo. Really good song too.

>>15969468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RrlNnaOzoE
I have no idea why i love this song so much.

>>15969468
When Jihad starts playing in Baldr Sky, that moment will forever stay in my mind

>>15969468
-Sengoku Koihime Spoiler- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yaGjKg73bw

Vocals of this game were great as fuck.

>>15969468
Dies Irae's Marie route's final battle was pure hype.
For something recent, Utawarerumono 3 was great since it had multiple of insert songs.

>>15969725
Jihad was the OP song though. I liked Dive 1's Paradigm Shift so much more (especially the vocals kicking in at the same time the battle starts), and was kind of let down that Dive 2's final boss didn't get an unique battle theme.

Why is this allowed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2KCbOq7Cos

Welp, that was creepy as shit.

>>15969931
Hilarious you mean, it was so sudden and out of place.

>>15969468
Hello world BLAZE UP.

>>15970027
especially ending of Mika's route

>>15969468
I was really surprised when Shoujo Ramune of all games had an insert song... even if it was kinda shit.

>>15970240
This scene was actually so amazing, I hope they do it justice in the anime.

>>15969468
When Adherence and Absolute play in Gothic Delusion = the hypest shit. Also they play pretty much one after the other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0miiywfGbYs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZN77Uc68a0

Also Baldr Sky Dive1 when you fight Chinatsu near the end.

>>15968166
>>15968205
>>15969079
It has already been uploaded
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzdNfLGacG1rV0tQUEozMzZvN0E

>>15971116
Well, that crashes on launch. Guess I am doomed to never play this game

>>15971116
>>15971273
Re downloaded it and it worked this time. Feels good.

Fantastic opening again, as expected of Lass. August and Giga should take notes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8QZxbJjTIY

>>15967955
Anon you're replying to here. Thanks for the detailed and well thought out response. Now you've made me want to go through the H scenes in the original. Which sucks because I would have to ctrl through so much to get there.

What are you playing right now?

>>15971692
Utawarerumono 2:itsuwari no kamen, got to catch up fast, avoiding spoilers for the sequel has been killing me.

Earlier I was playing ToHeart2 DX PLUS for this qt. Worth every yen, too bad it's ps3 only though.

>>15967955
It's decided. I'm reading the original instead.

>>15971692
>started playing puramai wars months ago
>finished one route and enjoyed it
>started route for heroine i didn't really like
>open the game every few weeks and get through 10 lines before closing it
send help

>>15971734
I understand how you feel, sometimes I get a game and fall in love with one girl but the rest of the cast is lack luster or it feels like you are starting to read the same gags/scenes over and over again.

>>15971734
Please don't quote nonexistent posts.

>>15971719
Console-exclusive remakes are the bane of this earth.

>>15971734
I wouldn't force it. If you don't wanna play, don't play. Eroge like that is something to read for fun or enjoyment, if you stop enjoying it then that's that.
>>15971739
Pretty much all Asa Project games

>>15971773
I would not even mind if it were on ps4 and or vita at least but to have a ps3 exclusive toheart2 girl hurts. Almost as bad a Nonchan having a route in Koichoco's psp version. I liked Utawarerumono's console version, as well as White Album on the vita, but having console exclusive content is pretty extreme. On the other hand it worked, I would have never purchased Koichoco or ToHeart2 if not for the exclusive content I was missing out on. Of course I pirated the 18+ versions to not miss out on the h-scenes as well. So their strategy is working.

>>15971788
One thing I found helped was skipping scenes for girls whose route I was not doing, even in the common route. It can leave weird gaps and does not work with plotge but it helps with moe/romance games.

>>15971721
Wait, before you decide, hear me out.

Himawari is no standard VN, no mere collection of light fun, sex, drama and romance. It's one of the most beautiful works of literature I've ever read. You want to appreciate it in its fullest, to give yourself the ultimate experience. Because it's one of those VNs you will rue for the rest of your life the fact you can never read it for the first time again.

Now, it's true I felt the change to the sex scene was very poorly done. But the remake is better in many other ways. The most important one is the addition of voice acting, something which adds immense depth to the dialogue and the raw emotion behind the girls. In particular, Ginga and Aries's voice actors stand out, giving special life and spark to their characters. But in addition, the new art is clearly superior, as you can see in my comparison posts in the last thread, and the new music is (mostly) an improvement.

It's these additional features that are what makes VNs so superior to classic novels, and you are doing yourself a disservice by reading the inferior version. CTRL through the original to see what you are missing out on, sure, but I would not recommend reading it in place of the remake.

>>15971818
>Himawari is no standard VN, no mere collection of light fun, sex, drama and romance. It's one of the most beautiful works of literature I've ever read. You want to appreciate it in its fullest, to give yourself the ultimate experience. Because it's one of those VNs you will rue for the rest of your life the fact you can never read it for the first time again.

Made me chuckle.

>>15971818
Even if this is some elaborate pasta, it's cringe worthy.

>>15971798
I skip scenes like that too, but it tends to be that if I'm not enjoying the writing that much then I'll be bored even in the character route. Every moege I can think of that I liked, I enjoyed the writing both in the common route and in the character routes.

>>15971827
>>15971835
So you're either a hipster who doesn't like things that are generally well received, or one of those pretentious people who scoff at the idea that VNs could ever be considered on the level of literature. Whichever you might be, I find you much more cringeworthy than the post you're addressing.

>>15971839
I agree, visual novels tend to have a lot of fluff dialog that does not add to the story in anyway other than to add read time and it can get tedious, I really could not care less about where or whats MC is going to eat for lunch or his discussion with the lunch lady and how her day was.

The worst part is when you skip a scene that seemed like filler and later fell like you missed something because in that filler something was dropped.

>>15971848
Himawari is good, it's the post that makes me want to vomit.

>>15971858
Calling VNs "so superior to classic novels" is going a bit far but I think the rest of the post articulated well the point he was trying to get across. I still was going back and forth on which version I was going to play and now I think I'll go for the new one.

>>15971864
It's that kind of hyperbole that makes it sound like some elaborate ironic troll rather than a nuanced opinion. I honestly was not sure if it was a joke.

>>15971739
i'm honestly looking forward to the other routes in this game but this one heroine is just an amalgamation of everything i don't like in one character. the way she talks, thinks, acts, her mannerisms, it's just that years ago i skipped one route in a game and it still haunts me

>>15971864
If you really want to read the eroscenes you can try reading the two versions side by side or something

When I read it the version with updated art didn't exist but there was the voiced PSP version, and the voices were really good.

>>15971876
Yeah the ero itself doesn't matter to me but from the posts before it seems like at the very least that one sex scene has decent, meaningful dialogue. On one hand I want to read it. On the other hand having the old version up in the background just to ctrl to the H scenes sounds annoying.

>>15971857
>Wait, before you decide, hear me out.
This exactly. I've been trying out LNs recently and this lack of fluff (in that vein) is genuinely refreshing. It seems to me that searching for good VNs is basically just searching for VNs that don't indulge in constant fluff writing.

>>15971871
Yeah, sorry about that. Reading hyperbolic Japanese prose all day every day has affected my ability to write normal serious-sounding opinions.

>>15971903
While LN have their own set of issues, pointless scenes typically are not one of them. They tend to be concise for all their flaws.

Also what was going to be your reply to the guy? You were obviously going to respond.

>>15971914
Oh, uh, I was googling bits of his post in quotes to see if he was quoting a Conjueror ask.fm reply. Didn't find it though.

I haven't read enough LNs to codify their issues, any statements I made now would be more criticizing the few I've read moreso than an actual trend in the medium. I look forward to discovering the faults of LNs, though I expect a major one to be constant blue balls in anything harem related.

>>15971818
>>15971721

There's a voice patch for the original version floating around. The ero won't be voiced, obviously, and you'll still have the old art, but otherwise it should be the best of both worlds.

>>15971924
Not sure why you care about some eceleb but o.k.

Most LN are by design written in such a way as to be able to continue forever like some manga are. Which is the root of most of their problems. They are by design less a literary effort and more of a commercial enterprise, as such they pander to the lowest common denominator. You will see the great LN seldom pass 10 novels and don't touch much on typical anime tropes while shit like SAO goes on until sales die off with harems and self insert mcs.

>>15971940
>Not sure why you care about some eceleb
I wanted to answer >>15971835

>>15971875
Is it Aisa?

>>15971875
Nothing wrong with skipping a route of a heroine you don't like or you don't care for, you're just gonna feel annoyed and might potentially drop everything
At most you should only force yourself of doing routes you have neutral feelings about, before doing your favorite's (or after, if you still care i guess)

>>15972114

Really depends on how story driven the game is. A lot of VNs require you to go through every route in order to get the full picture.

>>15972124
You are obviously right, i was just referring to stuff with light plot or no plot at all.

If the plot part is individual with every heroine you should be safe with skipping something
In some cases if you don't like the heroine you're also not gonna feel anything about the part of her plot

>>15971692
Playing otome domain
Its cute
>>15971734
Same here some stuff feels annoying to read like if i dont like the character
I like all of otome domain's character though so i think i can enjoy all routes.
Though stuff like SnU i feel like skipping makoto as it seems boring but still feels like i miss out on some stuff

>>15971734
Which girl btw?

>>15971594
Aiyoku's OP is great though.

>>15972186
Someone should take some sarcasm lessons.

>>15972039
>>15972163
kyoko is what i'm stuck on
and since she's such a poor excuse for a human being i'm honestly really looking forward to aisa's route, i really wanna see how she manages to handle a relationship and ecchi

>>15972114
you're right but the irony here is i wanna finish this route for the comedy from the rest of the cast, they're what keep me going

>>15971692
I'm playing Sakura No Uta. I'm close to finishing Makoto's route (hopefully) and am patiently waiting for it to get good.

>>15972310
I know what you mean, sometimes heroines sink even lower in their own routes making the others appear way more likeable despite having their presence almost cut off
In those cases all i can think of is "can't wait to finish and start that girl's route"

>>15972310
>brocon
>deredere
>blood related sister

I dunno bout you but i like her shes pretty cute and adorable

>>15972314
Same here im just skipping along know until the end of the common route

>>15971692
I finished a couple of VNs this week, last one being Shinjuu no Yakata, which was shorter than I expected.
I'm thinking of playing either gears of dragoon 2 because people said it was fun or schwazesmarken next, because the sequel comes out this month.

>>15972345
the difference here is the rest of the cast doesn't disappear, everyone is still there to support MC and his heroine. i've only completed common and minori route but so far aisa had her best moment in kyoko's route

>>15972351
i prefer the younger sister, also looking forward to her route

>>15971734
Keep pushing or just skip it.

I always choose the worst girl for my first playthrough. I save the best or the main heroine for my last play. That way I can complete the game.

>>15972403
I always chose a girl i like for the first route, i'm afraid that if i start with a unliked one i might drop it
But most of the time it's random anyway, aside for leaving the best for last

If i find a girl i don't like / don't care about i don't bother doing her route anymore
Unless it's required for plot reasons, obviously

>>15971933
Doesn't Himawari has like only 3 H-scenes? That's a very low number.
Or are they plot important?

Goddamit, the steam version of Steins pissed me off so much with randomly losing my saves
First time i had to redo everything up to chapter 4, then the whole chapter 6, and then 8

Just now i restarted picking all the true ending flags in order to read the last chapter later, i quicksaved / saved and doublechecked to make sure i wasn't hallucinating
I close and reopen the game to make sure, and fuck me everything is gone again
What the fuck, it's not like it closed crashing down

>>15972514
>>>/vg/

>>15972552

You do know that there are VNs on Steam you can play in Japanese? Quite a few even.

>>15972514
Try running as Admin, probably doesn't have write access to the directory

>>15972566
It's fine, i just redid everything and now it worked
I mean it's not fine at all, it's just over

It pissed me off that sometimes it decided randomly to not work

>>15972561
There are, and you aren't.

>>15972577
>you aren't
He wasn't >>15972514
I just ignored that comment

>>15971692
Phantom of Inferno

>>15972577

I don't care about Steinsgate, but if you wanna play it now, you should play the Steam version, as it simply features the highest resolution artwork. (on pc at least) Regardless of which language.
That is, provided it's not a buggy mess for everyone, but I'd assume there are ways around or it's a hardware thing.. as weird as it sounds. I don't know how this can happen, as it even has the Steam cloud supported. Normally if your local save gets busted, that should be a backup. Sounds weird.


So if someone here's writing about the game and playing the Steam version, there's absolutely nothing weird about it. So don't be so paranoid.

>>15971692
Still on Baldr Heart. I just got 100% in story mode last night, but still have Survival Mode left.

>>15972671
don't remember how many hours between 3~8 but it mostly felt like a waste of time and is still easy.

>>15972775
How many of those have Misaki?

>>15972908
no more than 5 times and always with 3 trash amongst them 1 shumikram at worse.
I heard that at 1200+, stages are composed of 4 shumikram and when Misaki is present it's hell.

just started playing with ith+translation aggregator
but sometimes TA doesn't pick lines
any idea how to fix ?

>>15973041
Some using romaji.

>>15972310
>>15972351
I remember her being extremely annoying. Maybe it was her voice.

>>15973079
Yes, I have seen quite a few people hate on her voice before in this thread. I love it personally.

>>15973022
Yeah, she alone is as bad as 10 shumikrams.

>>15973107
She isn't particularly bad as a last boss, especially with some of the weapons the game gives you to make her stay still (based gravity bombs).

>>15973116
She's quite bad when you play at 1.2x+ speed though. I reduced gameplay speed to 1x when I fought her on Very Hard and was quite surprised at how easier the fight became.

For anyone who's played it, are sprites supposed to look like this the closer they get to the screen?
Just to check.

>>15973041
Learn Japanese.

>>15973041
The engine used by age, rUGP, is quite a bastard. I can't offer any help but I can say perhaps it's just rUGP being a bastard.

>>15973567
that's why I'm doing this because I don't want to manually search into a dictionnary
you little prick

>>15973041
>Romanji

>>15973041
Go to DJT for this kind of tech support. Also machine translations are shit and you should feel bad for reading them. Just rely on the original text and learn to interpret it by yourself.

>>15973664
>machine translations
You can see for yourself that he's just attempting to extract the text, probably for dictionary searching, rather than machine translating.

>>15973629
I don't think the problem comes from the engine because ITH correctly pick up the lines so it must come from TA itself
same problem occurs with another game

>>15973629
>>15973662
this

>>15973664
I don't want to read a machine translation, I want to be able to look quickly to the reading and meaning of words

>>15973688
You just made me realize, is TA even necessary? Just copy from TA.
If you really want something like TA for some reason, get Chiitrans Lite, set it to "copy/read from clipboard", and have ITH write to the clipboard.

>>15973701
Please fuck off and do that shit somewhere else.

>>15973702
>Just copy from TA.
I mean ITH

>>15973701
>>>/a/148576200

>>15973664
JParser/MeCab/Rikaichan aren't machine translators.

>>15973738
No, but crippling yourself with romaji ruby text and automatic word separation is almost as bad.

>>15973775
how do you learn the reading without romaji ?

>>15973781
*I mean furigana

>>15973797
>>15973781
When you look up the word in the dictionary, look at the reading there. Having furi up all the time is a problem because it's a crutch that you can easily look at to stop yourself from memorizing readings.

>>15973775
I know, but don't call it machine translation if it's not.

>>15973652
Stop being sensitive and consider what I meant by my advice.

Once you manage to learn Japanese to some acceptable level, you won't be bothered by your setup missing some lines. At this point you're clearly not there yet to read KGNE or anything similar, as evidenced by your usage of romaji or actually that whole setup at all.

What you should do is train your vocabulary and reading speed with something easier and later come back to harder works.

And of course fuck off to DJT, but others already told you that.

>>15973855
KimiNozo isn't too hard though, is it? I mean, it's pretty long so it'd take him a long while to get through, but I don't remember it being particularly hard.

>>15973855
Eh starting with more difficult stuff is fine, in fact it's better for you if you have the patience for it. You're gonna be reading a lot less but also learning more stuff. Better than reading hundreds of lines of oniichan no koto suki yo~~~

Do you guys know which eroge this is from

Ive been trying for a while to find out

It seems very familiar i thought it was 恋色空模様 for a while

>>15973882
What is hard and isn't depends from person to person, so it's hard to tell, but seeing that guy still needs romaji, I'd say he should aim lower for now.

>>15973892
True, but imagine how frustrating it must be to look up words in every sentence. And consider how super long KGNE Latest Edition is. It would be much better to read some web novel on Narou instead. They're generally easier, already in small chunks and it's easy to look up stuff with Rikaisama when he needs to.

I didn't know that fucking Kanou Seisaku was drawing the manga adaptation of Tokyo Necro.

>>15973942
Jesus Christ that looks horrible.

>>15973953
Yes, that cover sucks but he's not a bad artist.

>>15973960
Are you joking? This also looks horrible.

>>15973965
Ah? Are you the one joking?
That cover looks pretty damn fine, Kanou usually draws very pretty woman like that one.

>>15973041
This is fucking disgusting. Please go back to /djt/.

What do you guys think about breaking in the 少女膜?
should there be blood how would you feel if there wasnt?

>>15973974
Nah I'll stay here and post about the other games like I have read them just like you guys.

>>15972508
I only played the remake so I can only chime in from that position. Sex in Himawari has plot related stuff associated with it, but they still very clearly imply that the characters had sex off-screen in the all ages version, meaning they didn't remove sex from the story altogether.

Island is the same despite it being all-ages from the get go. The characters all but say that they had sex. In a way it feels more daring than many eroge, since eroge usually opt for the "everyone is actually over 18 years old" excuse or censor specific words whereas both Himawari and Island tell the characters' actual ages. They even joke about the "everyone in this game is over 18 years old" excuse.

>>15973992
>少
I think you should improve your Japanese.

>>15973997

>>15973994
>I have read

You are being generous with yourself.

>>15974013
Its okay, no one will notice.

>>15973942
Oh my god, what did he do to my Echika.

She literally has bigger boobs than her head, what the fuck.

>>15974013
>>15974017
Actually, your right. All you need to to do is remember to copy the Japanese name of the visual novel and I dont think anybody will figure you ou.

>>15974019
Fat japanese woman face, unlike Souun's thin japanese woman face.

>>15973925
I guessed it was something by Whirpool and was right on the mark.

>>15974045
Forgot the link https://vndb.org/v6678/chars#chars

>>15974036

>>15974057
Its not a nukige though, at least doesn't seem like one.

Anyone knows a good way to deal with these pests? I've been trying for a while but still no luck on Very Hard difficulty.

>>15974062
Moege nowadays are moege cum nukige, same difference

>>15974045
>>15974053
thanks

also everytime i see that face i feel punching it or fucking it, im not why...

>>15974095
Yeah, I guess. I just cant understand why would somebody buy a moege with an art like >>15974036 this. You dont even need to check description at all, art alone shows up the game's quality.

>>15974084
Nvm, Proctor + beam spamming.

Which one should I get between these upcoming loli VNs? Which one is more promising? I can't grab all three titles without piling up my backlog, and I haven't checked each company's previous titles to decide which one is more promising to play.

>>15974222
The one with the best OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUzyaGQ-f5s

>>15974222
I think the Low-Series has some sort of management gameplay if you like that. Iris has lolis that actually act like they are young. The Akabeisoft one is pretty ???.

>>15974222
Low Spec has the best OP, the best art and the cutest girls. So obviously it.

>>15972186
Yes but Sen no Hatou's was disappointing.

>>15974608
>Sen no Hatou... was disappointing
October summed up

Do we have any information about Silverio Trinity? Is it a straight sequel / will you have to read Vendetta for it?

>>15974800
If nothing else, vendetta will probably have done all the important world building for it regarding the zodiacs/esperantos/grorious nippon.

>>15973250
They get bit blurrier if they get closer, but it shouldn't be quite that bad

>>15974243
What a coincidence that these girls happen to have the same 出席番号! It must be fate.

>>15974800
http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/trinity/extra/e01.html

Sure is hard to look at the official website.

>>15974036
That head looks creepy as hell.

Without spoiling, is sakuuta a moege? I know it's written by SCA, but I just want read something nice. I just feel like reading moeges. I'm not in the mood for Tractatus: the eroge 2.

I read it for like an hour and I'm getting mixed feelings. (it is pretty good so far though).

>>15975365
The first two routes could be written in a game like da capo and they'd fit right in, downright to their quality.

>>15975365
The tone of the game shifts rather dramatically once you get to Zypressen. It's definitely not what I would call a moege, so if that's what you want to play, you should probably set SakuUta aside for now.

That said, it's also not anything like SubaHibi. It's very much its own thing.

>>15975365
It's a moege on the surface.

>>15975365
its a moogyge

>>15975365
It's a charage.

>>15975382

Speaking of da capo, I just started it. I don't expect much, but at least one of the girls is voiced my Aoba Ringo. And the redhead seems cute. Only Sakura hasn't appeared yet.. as a character. The tree has.

>>15975382

Speaking of da capo, I just started it. I don't expect much, but at least one of the girls is voiced my Aoba Ringo. And the redhead seems cute. Only Sakura hasn't appeared yet.. as a character. The tree has.

I've been reading through Chuusotsu, and it's been a real blast so far. I'm still in the middle of reading it, but it's got a place among my favorites if the quality keeps up. It's got nice comedy and the drama is really well done.
It never falls into the melodrama trap a lot of VNs tend to do.

Well, finished Eternal Kingdom. The story's generic as fuck: MC finds sword of plot advancement, MC finds out that he's the descendant of the previous hero that will defeat the villainous witch, she finds out and attack the village, which makes the MC go around the land to unite the other races to fight the witch just like his predecessor, fix the sword of plot advancement with the orbs that the other races has, and pick one of the girls to fuck while at it. The gameplay also the typical hack-and-slash with rpg elements, but it's there's no depth or strategy in it, other than equipping the strongest equipments that you have found along the way and spam jump+special and conserve health items on the map to fight bosses.

Overall, it's okay, but it's not like I expect much from it.

>>15975891

Yeah I wasn't expecting much with this one but Chuustosu ended up being one of my favorite releases of the year. I should check out JQV soon too.

I really hope part 2 comes out sooner rather than later.

>>15975993
I've read JQV, and it's a very different work.
Still good though.

Off-topic question but would you guys prefer more traffic here or not?
Also do you guys frequent any other eroge sites?

>>15976057
Half the posters here seem to have forgotten how to take it easy and are almost insufferable, so no, I'd like less traffic.

>>15976057
As long as they're willing to engage in on-topic high-quality eroge discussion, of course we want more traffic.

Any of you lads play any of the Boot Up games?

Neo+ caught my eye the other day, but I have no idea what to expect.

>>15975874
Too bad the art quality dropped in EXS. It was a lot better done in EXA.

>>15976674
Jesus! Arrival of the sacred samurai!

>>15976057
less traffic results in higher quality post.

>>15976829
What about all those low traffic furry RP proboards

>>15976829
There's absolutely no proof of that.

>>15976829
>コミュニケーション苦手なジャップらしい答え

>>15976936

>>15976957
DELET THIS

>>15976936
>>15976957
I know what the text means but I don't understand the significance... dude quoted some 2ch post and you recognized which?

Can you guys stop shitposting on 2ch

>>15976985
When I saw that post in Japanese, it seemed to me like that guy is trying to look cool by mimicking the posting style from 2ch. So I tried Googling the phrase and what do you know, it was a post from 2ch verbatim.

Maybe it was his own and he recycled it months after? Anyway, it's pretty embarassing to post 2ch-style on 4chan. It makes you look super tryhard.

>>15977051
The fact that you actually googled that, then afterwards tried to explain it and look superior is even more 'tryhard' in my eyes.

>>15977119
I'm glad he explained it for me, I did ask after all.

>>15977119
>>15977122
翻し失敗ｗｗｗ

A couple of questions about Gears of Dragoon 2.
Can you get more than one epilogue if you clear more than one character?
And is NG+ harder from the get go? As in, monsters, health, damage and so on.

>>15977187
After you finish the game you can choose whose epilogue you get as long as you had their flag set. Just have to know who are possible for each route, Parshe, Byak, Rufee and Chronos+Yosaku+Saph are on Magic-route. Ashley, Kei, Ekidona+hakase+chuunibot are on Meka-route.
Difficulty is based on the difficulty level and berserk levels you put. Perosnaly I did first run on normal and switched to hard around route split, and then did the other route on very hard and one more run on chaos. And it felt about right.

>>15977419
>as long as you had their flag set
And the only deciding factor for this are their events you use heartstones for, right?
So, finish their quest line or similar and you can get their ending.

>>15977433
Yeah the last invidual event gotten with the heartstones sets the ending/epilogue flag. gotta be carefull with the choices though you get in those events, but those should be no brainers which are the right ones for the girl.

>>15977440
Ok, thanks.

Sites other than nyaa/rutracker for finding stuff? I heard people say baidu but it looks like Chinese Google, not sure what to click or search for

>>15977555
>>/jp/thread/S15249193#p15255746

I'm trying to do a full Very Hard run, but currently stuck in this battle. Anyone knows of a good way to deal with these bastards? It's hard to land my combos on them since they keep flying around and bouncing me around the map with their knock-back rifles.

>>15977555
pornolab.net has very good selection of older titles which are still well-seeded.

>>15977555
clubbox

>>15977740
First thing it asks for is to install a plugin.....

>>15977687
Nvm. I did it after a few dozen retries.

https://mega.nz/#F!jERiRBSB!syGGx9EH6q-e3DQ-2Lbf4A

no one may really care but i ripped all the BGM from every BISHOP game i could and figured i might as well share it. didn't feel like tagging over 400 songs though so they just have their default filenames

>>15978659
Thanks my friend.

>>15977440
By the way, are the magic and machien routes distinct enough plot-wise?
By this, I mean if the routes have their separate share of plot stuff and interesting bits and that they aren't basically the same plot-wise with a different cast.

>>15978858
Yes after the route split the events start to go quite different directions and how the whole incident is solved, so both routes should be done. The routes also focus differently on heroines with Parshe being the main lead on magic-route and Chronos as most prominent support heroine, while meka-route is Ashley as main lead (you actually need to do her invidual events to access the route too as her backstory is heavily tied to to plot of the route) and Ekidona as support heroine. Should also be noted that you both Ekidona and Chronos are route locked characters too, also when doing their respective routes you really should do their invidual scenes as they are important to events and makes me wonder why the fuck those events weren't obligatory events for those routes. Ofcourse after doing both routes you can use both Ekidona and Chronos at sametime too on NG+.
Personaly I liked the meka-route quite bit more than the magic-route.

>>15979085

How's the gameplay to story ratio in this one?
Also how much does the story interfere with the gameplay? I'm not fond of long cutscenes in dungeons. If I'm playing, I'm playing and don't want to get interrupted too much by shit that makes me forget where I am, where I wanna go and so on. I often just hold ctrl when that happens too much or when it seems even just slightly irrelevant... which is obviously not necessarily the best thing if the story is actually existing. (unlike for example Dungeons of Regalias, where the ctrl key should probably be your best buddy.)

>>15979122
It seems to be pretty good, you do almost the whole dungeon then you get an event or two by the end.
From what I played.

>>15979085
Looks good then, I was thinking of only doing one route (Machina) if stuff was mostly the same because Ashley is really likeable so far, I have a really soft spot for hard working singers.

>>15979122
It's prety well balanced imo. You can have small short scenes in longer dungeon runs checkpoints and the larger story segements are inbetween the quests/when you finish a dungeon part. And the story is decent fun when it starts rolling and characters are fairly fun.

>>15979150
Ahsley is indeed the best with Ekidona close behind so them basically sharing the route made it so good, and the events generally being more intersting on it too. hell even my favorite moments from magic-route goes to those two even though they get sidelaned hard on it.

Thoughts on the last two minori titles by anyone who has read them?
- Soreyori no Prologue
- Tsumi no Hikari Rendezvous

>>15979256
>Soreyori no Prologue
Nice atmosphere. Good visuals. Heroines have huge tits. H-Scenes are really long.

>>15979256
I liked the main route in yorino a lot.

Is there any eroge else where mc saves a heroine from being homeless?

>>15979357
That's basically kazoku keikaku's plot.

>>15979360
Oh yeah, forgot to count it since I have played so long ago.

The Himawari remake has new event CG to compensate for the lack of ero?

>>15979473
mochiron

>>15979483
so desu ka. Release when?

>>15979529
Etto, gomen kedo it came out 8 months ago.

>>15979535
I mean the mangagamer version

>>15978659
I dont mean to step on your good will, but... why? I must have played at least half a dozen Bishop's titles and I don't think any of them was memorable.

>>15979558
Then you should re-read OP post and stop your retarded baiting.

>>15979587
Not him, I've played plenty and almost always found the OSTs memorable. In fact I see them get mentioned all the time. Mesu Kyoushi 4 even went so far as to have 2 different genres for its soundtracks, selectable from a menu, because they just have that much good music. I uploaded a track from Sansha Mendan and showed my music friend, they thought it was pretty good despite not knowing it's from a porn game.

>>15977672
Baidu is pretty good for getting things but it's a confirmed botnet and traffic logger, you need to use a VM to run it. As soon as I installed it I got notification from almost all my services of suspicious activity on my accounts.

Game seemingly came without a crack and it asks me to put in a CD when I try to launch it. What do I do? Yes I'm new.

>>15979849
Depending on the game, it may not have a crack.

>>15979853
Well how do I play it then? It's Oretsuba prelude if it matters

>>15979865
Just try mounting it and play.

>>15979897
It's mounted, still asks for it.

>>15979806
Someone suggested using this for baidu, although I haven't tried it myself yet.
https://github.com/banbanchs/pan-baidu-download

>>15979909
Honestly I'm soo used to nyaa/sukebei and just buying any games I can't pirate. I would not even know where to find baidu links. I only used it a few time when I was spoonfed the links.

>>15979899
Buy a legit copy then.

>>15979932
Search with these for general links.
kaopu.so
so.baiduyun.me
www.panduoduo.net

Search on tieba.baidu.com through the forums (use the search button on the right).

Here's a long thread full of uploads.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2232622895

>>15979256
I quite liked the latter.
The pacing was nice and brisk rather than dragging on forever like most titles usually do. Some of the twists were super obvious though.
Fuuka was great.

Finished Chuusotsu.
Really liked it and am looking forward to the next entry.

Race-targeted biological weapons, in my yuri VNs?

Color of White was cute, well worth the 100 yen pricetag

>>15981150
How long is it? I put it on hold but if its shorter than I think I might just go through it later.

>>15981476

It's .43mb of text

Pity mini-routes are worse than having no routes.

>>15981804
Important note being those mini routes often have H-scenes that otherwise wouldn't exist.

>>15981987

They can just dump that crap in the extra-menu. I know some are super against that stuff, but I do feel ero is holding back the story of quite a few eroge. Just for silly things like "heroine quota" and "lewd quota". I'd rather have the lewds make some more sense even if that means it'd be less present in the routes (or mainstory). Having the ero available a bit more "on demand" is also not such a bad thing.
Like this they could first think about the story and then about the ero. As it is I'm pretty sure a lot of eroge planning starts from heroine designs and ero plans, with the rest being secondary. Even for works that aren't nukige. Which leads to something like Hapymaher, which actually is pretty solid, but has 3 "normal" routes and a mini-route which really didn't need to exist and are even written so that not reading them is absolutely not a problem. They aren't super short or anything, but they just recycle stuff you have mostly seen in the common route already, add some more slice of life and the ero and call it a day. It's unfortunate.

I know some really don't like the ero being mostly in the extra-menu, but I feel that there's not a lot of negative stuff about it. You can still write some kind of setting around them. I don't think people mind a few minutes of "how did it come to this" when they want an ero-scene. And those who want a bit more to their porn still get it. And tons of eroge do actually unlock extra ero in the extra-menu already anyway. It's just one more step they'd need to go. Well, maybe one day. Flops like Chrono Clock will hinder that for a while, even though that one flopped for somewhat different reasons. (not enough actual ero, the overall scenario being not very popular..)

>>15981987
What if there's no H? Why if it's just two scenes and a half-assed ending? Why are they doing this?

>>15981353
I'll totally buy that for a dollar. There's not enough blood related incest yuri out there.

>>15982104
Story over ero is mostly a Western viewpoint. Japanese buyers care about ero first and foremost, everything else is just a vehicle for the ero to happen.

>>15982325
Not really, West is majority butas too. And it doesn't change the fact that those kind of people are the cancer of the industry.

>>15982325
What I find conflicting about this is that nevertheless games with good stories can make bank, for example if you look at the top of EGS rankings the top games are stuff like Fate Stay Night, Oretsuba, etc games that sold on story not ero. So while ero may be first and foremost plot can still move copies. Yet, clearly, ero is what the industry is geared towards.

>>15982325
I don't think that's really the case, otherwise they wouldn't differentiate between nukige and normal eroge themselves. Ero is obviously important for non-nukige too, but for a recent example even a game like Hanahime Absolute that sells itself on cute girls got a rather poor reception despite the same liked artist being on board and the H-scenes were par for the course.

>>15982334
I mean, there's an extremely easy answer as to why that is: It's easier to do. Even bad moege like Senren Banka sell a lot because you just need art + porn, but if you produce bad plotge one after another your company will die (and even when you make a good one it will probably not sell as much as popular moe titles, see ISLAND).

>>15982325
Japanese buyers aren't a monolithical entity, you find people who shit over mass produced moe/nukige over there too
Making generalizations is stupid

>>15982334
You're confusing EGS rankings with sales. The two only occasionally correspond.

>>15982357
There's enough correspondence to be meaningful in conveying that games people like and a lot of people play often are plotge without meaningful ero.

>>15982366
EGS users are mostly pirates and don't represent a very large slice of the eroge buying public. Look at actual sales charts instead. They'll normally look quite different from EGS rankings. For example, Island has an 85 on EGS yet sold rather poorly.

>>15982414
That brings up an interesting question. What are the best games in terms of sales?

What's the simplest way to check?

>>15982645
It's not really interesting at all. Top is all shallow moe crap. This year it's Otome Domain and Senren Banka

>>15982701
>moe crap
NICE! The type of stuff I love.

No, I'm pretty sure there are people that hate fun.

>>15982986

Speaking of fun, doesn't it seem kind of weird how many heroines don't have anything they like doing? You see a lot of characters who have no hobbies at all or only have hobbies that directly benefit MC (like cooking and cleaning), it's like their whole life revolves around MC and his friends. How boring of a person can you be?

>>15983049
Those kinds of heroines tend to be boring, I think.
I like heroines like those in Lovely Cation, they have their own hobbies and interests and MC learns about them to hang out with the girls more.
Listening to Seine talk about movie trivia and acting was cute.

>>15982414
All-ages was a mistake.

I enjoy Denpa a lot, read through Sayonara wo Oshiete. 10/10 until the ending, then it dropped a bit because I expected more.
Now going through Subahibi, currently at It's my own invention, does it have a shit ending? Also can somebody explain what happened at the end of rabbit hole 1?

>>15983115
>10/10 until the ending, then it dropped a bit because I expected more.
Mutsuki's climax was a literal 10/10.

>>15983115
SubaHibi has one of the best final acts of any eroge ever. RH1 is good to reread after you finish the game, don't worry too much about it now.

>>15983121
Yea, I don't even know how to reread RH1. I can only select RH2 and My own Invention

>>15983077
What did the stats on the game do? There were some 'bonuses' to h-scenes, but was that all? And I didn't even see any difference with thos ebonuses

>>15983142
I'm not really sure, I think the more 器用 you have the more she ahegaos (that's what was implied in the description images) but I never noticed a differention. Really, the fact stuff is obfuscated like that in LxC2 is the worst part. Sometimes it's impossible to know without a guide, too, like Seine has a bonus H scene if you buy milk at some point... how was I supposed to know that?

>>15983175
>Sometimes it's impossible to know without a guide
Actually I liked that, Making them random like that was pretty enjoyable, for me at least. Then you can finish it once more with a walkthrough while using the skip button and get the all scenes, it doesn't take long at all.

>>15983215
Well, my only problem is that often they drop hints, like in LxC1 Aya would mention she was listening to X album, and if you went to the music store and bought the album you would get some unique dialogue. Well, as I wrote this I realized THAT scene maybe should have given me a hint to buy milk, but anyway...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6GOE4c95Zw

Summer amakano feels weird, but I do love me some after stories.

>>15983221
Very nice op. It's been a while since I read the first amakano so i'm exited to come back and have the story continue. Also what a good release date. A few days before christmas!

>>15974243
>>15974250
>>15974282

Thanks, I'll get Low Spec when I had the chance.

>>15978659
Great job man. Really appreciate it.

Can you do ONLY Hotarus route in Amatsutsumi (since I heard it's the true one)? Do you miss out on anything important by skipping the others?

>>15983385
Porn

>>15970240
I picked this up the other day.
From that opening monologue I really expected MC to be a lot more of a scumbag, granted I'm still pretty early on (chie has been part-timing for a couple days)

I was so sure he was going to leverage her into a bj or something after he caught her but he seems like an alright dude.

>>15983385
Nope, you miss nothing, their chapters already work like a route anyway.

キターーーー

Anyone know where I can get a crack for あけいろ?

>>15983049

>women
>hobbies that exist for any reason other than to boost their social standing

Good joke, anon. Women are boring creatures.

That doesn't mean that VN heroines should be just as boring as the real thing, of course.

>>15984091
>Women are boring creatures.

>>15984091
Take that garbage to /r9k/. You know I was talking about 2D.

>>15983049
as long as it's not relevant to the plot i don't mind

80 on EGS
Is this the blunder of the year?

>>15984109
woah take it easy man

I feel strange reading an eroge about a girl from the place I live in. The neighbouring town she is mostly likely from, I've been there before.

They should have made Bethly's dad a lumberjack pilot who works for maple syrup and can cut a grizzly in half with a hockeystick. The whole maple syrup scene was down right offensive; Canadians are nothing like that.

Now excuse me, I am going to go cut down a few evergreens then jack my shit up to a maple syrup IV.

>>15973974
While anything but Firefox + ITHVNR for easy mining is despicable, at what point are you even welcome in this thread? I mean, I've been studying Japanese for years and still stumble upon new vocabulary while reading, which I then import to Anki via previously mentioned method.

Is near fluency expected to be allowed to post here? No wonder more JOPs visit /vn/ than the actual untranslated general. I'd definitely tone down the hostility to avoid having the thread linger on page 10 all hours of the day.

>>15984696
>I mean, I've been studying Japanese for years and still stumble upon new vocabulary while reading, which I then import to Anki via previously mentioned method.
I've been reading English for over two decades, it's my native language, and I still see new words. I don't use anki though. Don't be chained forever my friend.

>>15984696
i get made fun of on both threads theres not much other places to go to either if that helps...

>>15984246
>80 on EGS
Clearly not. Means it just wasn't at it's potential but wasn't worse than all the trash moege released each month. Completely different from like gun knight girl or whatever it was.

>>15984704
Comparing your native language to your second or third one with less than a fourth of the experience doesn't really work, friend. I've read the vast majority of the most difficult VNs with just over 5 years of experience, and I still add new vocabulary to my deck to rapidly and efficiently solidify the knowledge. Considering further study "chains" is silly. Running those who still openly study out of the thread is even more so.

>>15984763
>but wasn't worse than all the trash moege released each month.
Whew not a good complement
>gun knight girl
Gun Knight Girl won awards for scenario (though it got 80 too), are you thinking of Cutie Bullet?

>>15984773
>and I still add new vocabulary to my deck to rapidly and efficiently solidify the knowledge.
My implication, which remains true for both native and foreign languages, is that if the word is so rare you don't haven't seen it or memorized it after several years of engagement, it's probably not something worth throwing into an anki deck to grind into your head. The flow of new words will NEVER stop, and worse yet, most of the new words will not be all that useful. This is all just a realistic talking, I understand and - forgive the rudeness - there can be a certain "autistic" desire to grind all words despite their relevance, if that's an urge you have and wish to satisfy, all the more power to you.

>>15984696
i just draw the words on google tranlate and it keeps track of a list for me i take a look over now and again and remmember the word in about 3 times seeing it,
I delete it afterwards.
Though i dont need to do this often.

Also just leave it, most people here just have animosity to japanese learners

Why do people hate moege.

So when will Sca-ji write a nukige with all of these elements?

>>15984795
Because they're not the latest e-celeb endorsed memege.

>>15984866
I endorse GinHaru

>>15984839
He already made Subahibi.

>>15984795
most people don't, it's just a few that keeps complaining.

>>15984138
awesome

>>15985167
Something from Asa project, p-something wars maybe

>>15985195
Oh I already found it, just like the reference to dogs, and posting pictures ...... of technically dogs.

>>15984776
>Cutie Bullet
Yeah probably
>Whew not a good complement
Not a complement but it means it did too well to be a blunder.

>>15985167
You have to search the image not the thumbnail.
The built in 4chan extension search is useless. Expand the image and right click it.

>>15984249
Did you just assume their gender?

After finishing Aqua After, I kind of feel like I wish I'd just stopped after the original Himawari ending. The last thing you read in a VN is important because it's the memory you have left in your mind when you finish it, and the original ending was perfect for that. Absolutely fantastic way to end off. These extra stories are nice and all, but they really don't have the same level of impact.

I'm not really complaining, of course, the stuff is made for the people who read it when it comes out and I didn't have to go and read all this bonus stuff. Maybe next time I'll make sure to take a break and read some other stuff in-between to simulate the timelapse in release dates.

Also Akari best girl

>>15985420
Man is gender neutral in brospeak

>>15985167
she is more like a dogshit than a dog

>>15984782
He's what you can call a DJT EOP. That autistic grinding desire is deep-seated inside him.

>>15984782
Just curious, how big is your deck? Mine is about 11k but still doesn't seem anywhere close to being able to read fluently.

>>15985798
Oops, sorry. I mean to ask <<15984773

>>15984773
Just curious, how big is your deck? Mine is about 11k but still doesn't seem anywhere close to being able to read LN/VNs fluently.

>>15985810
Of course not, the average vocab of an adult is 40k

>>15985812
Yeah I know about that, but my deck has been expanding very slowly ever since it reached 10k. Will I be able to read without checking the dictionary every few minutes with, say, 20k vocab?

>>15985825
Depends on what you're reading obviously.
>but my deck has been expanding very slowly
Start reading different stuff then. Give Mareni a try

>>15984696
If it weren't for the hostility this would just be another language learning thread. Don't even bring it up. Nobody cares how you study.

>>15985825
On some random interent tests for Japanese vocabulary size I got 32000 words and I can read normal VNs (not Mareni) without checking anything.

I never did Anki or any other DJT EOP stuff. If you feel it's not working out for you, free yourself from it and train your memory instead. Then you'll might be able to remember stuff without constant boring repetition exercises.

But seriously, >>>/a/DJT
This guy >>15985881 is completely right.

She is a plant. Seeing part of her boobies is definitely no fanservice at all. No it's utterly necessary for her photosynthesis. It all makes sense! I wonder if she'll ever need bees...

>>15985825
10k?

i made it to 15 k or sonething then stopped anki and went to reading vns and playing games.
i can read most stuff i come across now but my problem is i go to fast. I
still come across a few words i dont know but i either just guess the meaning or move on. just read vns and move on.

I've fought these motherfuckers so many times and still find them annoying as hell. Anyone has a method to get rid of them quickly?

>>15986946
>but i either just guess the meaning or move on. just read vns and move on.
That's a "problem" for everyone, including natives reading their own languages. I know many people who had incorrect understandings of words because they simply never looked them up - the most common example I can think of is the difference between "jail" and "prison" is often lost to those who only hear about them on the news. One I've xperienced personally is the definition of "ambivalent" - I see it ALL the time as being "disinterested, not caring" even by fairly intelligent people ( http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1677 ) but in reality it means the exact opposite - "having mixed feelings, unsure, conflicted". Vocabulary acquisition for an advanced user of a language is almost entirely passive and that breeds errors.

I could swear one of the menu messages in gears of dragoon 2 said you could change difficulty level freely in the inn, but I've only managed to add berserk levels for some reason.
I could use spoileral, but it's not the same, it did ask what difficulty level I wanted after the prologue, but that's it.

>>15987053
You can choose difficulty freely in the inn menu, it's in the top most 0quest where you can change it. Ofcourse its limited in changing between easy-normal-hard, harder difficulties it stays locked but those aren't available at the start anyway.

>>15987074
Thank you, for some reason I thought that quest was just to change difficulty to casual mode so I never actually bothered with it.
This game is so damn practical in basically everything.

Since when was Mutsumi-san such a racist?

>>15987042
Oh well, I managed it after reducing gameplay speed to 1x.

Super late, but here's the Japanese (I think) version Divi-Dead

https://mega.nz/#!FAZRzQSR!EDouLMKsj6ldPyzpvFtjgruJyfxsOlyguw-GQmFLNYs

.isz is some weird compressed iso format.

>>15987187
They all are extremely xenophobic and partially racist.

>>15987351
Their country was invaded and their family and friends killed

>>15987363
Not like they are any better, the closest thing to an atomic bomb in the game was used by not-japan and it was seen as a really good and touching thing.

>>15987373
Japan isn't very self-aware.

>>15987373
I interpreted the bombing of the bujin district to be the atomic bomb metaphor.

Wasn't Senmono pretty disappointing in terms of sales anyway?

>>15987436
Hopefully August learns their lesson.

>>15987342
Thanks, friend.

>>15987436
Where are you getting that idea?

>>15987436
September's エロゲ・ギャルゲ売上ランキング didn't got released yet.

>>15987342
It's just short for .iso.zip I think

>>15987490
Right, my bad. I was looking at the august chart.

I know this is pretty obvious to most of you, but it's such a bummer that lolige are so few and far in between. If I read anything that doesn't contain them it has to be actually good or I lose interest quickly.

Save me, Akabei Soft.

>>15988063
Low Spec is next month

>>15988063
>If I read anything that doesn't contain them it has to be actually good or I lose interest quickly.
I-Is this a bad thing?

How long do you think until some tracing scandal around Re:LieF's CGs surfaces?

>>15988063
>Save me, Akabei Soft.
I think you're better off hoping for an actual miracle than that.

Haku can be really cute, love the vn so far, I wonder what took me so long to play it since I have owned it from launch. Got to finish if fast.

I... I can't bring myself to do it...

They really are desperate, aren't they?

RecoLove demo is out. Hell ya.

>>15984696

/vn/'s much more hostile

he got shit on, and rightly so, because he was using romaji and highlighting, which will seriously stunt one's progress

>>15988869
All three of them look like total shit.

>>15981150
Is there a confirmed sequel? Also random question, I already bought and downloaded it so it doesn't necessarily matter for me, just curious. But I went to try to find the page for chuusotsu the other day and it kept saying it this page cannot be found. Did they take it down for some reason or is this on my end?

>>15989311
I'm just assuming there will be a next title from this being shown at the end.

The chuusotsu page also doesn't work for me.

>>15989584
Love their English. Also that's weird. I wonder what happened.

>>15988063

Eh, Gusha no Kyouben is more of slice-of-life drama VN with loli x shota instead of your standard lolige. Go for Chicchakunai Mon if you can't wait a month for Low Spec.

Unless you're waiting specifically for vanilla loli x shota romance, in that case, pray with me to hope that Gusha won't be suck. God, why loli x shota vanilla romance is so rare compared to high school romance.

>>15989794
Did you read the trial? I don't think there's much hope of it not being suck.

>>15989803
I don't think akb3 actually put any effort into their works anymore. They keep pumping out games one after another, and they either look like crap or are very short. Their old games were hit or miss but they didn't look cheap like they are nowadays.

So I raced through Koharu's route and loved it/her, but I'm about halfway through both of the other girls routes and I just can't be assed.

Would the girls in the second game be able to hold my attention?

>>15987351
Which feels weird since discrimination was a big topic in Yoakena if I remember correctly.

>>15989986
If you like genki and a bit cheeky kouhais, I know I do, Kanade.

>>15989986
why december so far away...

what eroge has the cutest characters?
just the top few cutest that pops into your head

id say
majokoi and
clover days
otome domain is close

there are probably others that i cant remember now

>>15990306

>>15990309
yeah i really like inugami kira but she sucks at ero scenes

I'm kinda new to japanese eroge but what are some sites like news and forums i know about seiya saiga but thats about it.

>>15990362
>news
twitter

>>15990314
Inugami wasn't involved with that game at all. I believe that particular CG was drawn by Suzuri.

Also Inugami sucks at everything, not just ero scenes.

>>15990502
i admit not everybody has the same taste but shes not a bad artist but sure she has some bad art like that notorious SnU one of Rin.

Has no one here played Trianthology? Just started, apparently the first chapter is written by Romeo. I thought you guys would be all over it.

>>15990728
Not even Romeo can save that mess.

>>15990051
I adore those. I'll guess I'll give the second game a shot.

Is there too much skating talk / drama in Mizuha's route? I want to play her first because of the Kazane voice, but all those skating talk kinda bores me. I just cant choose since all of them are pretty cute.

>>15991005
>gf excitedly talks about her passion with you
>'bores me'
You don't deserve her.

>>15991012
It is pretty adorable when it happens. Like >>15983077 mentioned.

>>15991012
I didnt get at those part yet, I'm probably at the later part of the common route or something. If its something like you have said its okay I guess, I'm kinda afraid of a possible "I have to pratice skating more, cant be with you" drama at high school part though. Those type dramas are really annoying and boring imo.

>>15990728
I've started the game, it honestly wasn't bad. I think R07 just has a weird anti-circlejerk, that is undeserved. Like, all sorts of games have far worse writers, but they're not trying to create "art", so only R07 gets massacred? I don't get it to be honest.

>>15991042
>I'm kinda afraid of a possible "I have to pratice skating more, cant be with you" drama at high school part though.
We live in a post koikake world my friend

>>15991048

>We live in a post koikake world my friend

The industry never learns though. 'Never pull a surprise nasty twists on childhood friend heroine routes' should be a number 1 rule on every romance slice of life VN ever since this happened, especially if said childhood friend is the main heroine of the game. Their route will be bland, but at least it won't start shitstorm from the people.

>>15991043
It's because all his titles are all-ages, popular in the EOP community, and also unvoiced. For me Higurashi and Higanbana were decent and interesting works by him. Umineko had a unique concept with how he works with meta and the definition of mystery, too bad it becomes a clusterfuck by the end. Although his writing can get stale at times as he tends to repeat himself a lot he writes likable enough characters and comes across as pretty heartfelt.

Like you said he doesn't deserve all the hate, personally I think Tonokawa Yuuto is the worst out of the three in Trianthology. We have to remember that Ryuukishi is still a doujin writer, and he isn't nearly as bad as some "professional" eroge writers.

>>15991115
Iwaihime and Rewrite are professional titles and he wrote for both of them. He really isn't a doujin writer.

>>15991140
I think that's splitting hairs, he started a doujin circle and mainly writes doujin games, yeah he's done so work in professional games but he's still got the cloth of a doujin writer.

>>15991146
Mate it's been 10 years since he was a "doujin" writer. If he's still this bad after that much experience there's no excuse.

>>15991043
There is a weird circle jerk around hating R07 for no reason other than his work is popular, not saying there are no reasons to hate his style of writing but most people can't articulate what they have issues with because they honestly don't know how to analyze writing and could not tell good writing from bad writing from their own ass, especially VN readers.

One issue is that he hold very eastern ideas of writing, thing like endless cycles, death not meaning death, repeating dialogue, repeating themes, even repeating scenes are very much eastern concepts that most westerns find distasteful. Especially repeating dialogue and cyclical arguments that do not end.

Another thing is he has a lot of good ideas and executes them poorly, also he is a horrible finisher, he does not know how to end a story. A good example is Lucia's route in rewrite, lots of great themes, lot's of great lines, great mood and a real sense of mystery when investigating "Haruka Asahi" but once the confession in the church scene happens and the story starts to end everything goes down hill, from the dialogue to how erratic and unreasonable the character's actions become. Koutaro's and Lucia's dialogue becomes particularly unbearable and Lucia/koutarou/shizuru/chihaya action's were soo badly written the last 30 minutes of Lucia's route I had wished all the characters would have just died in a nuclear explosion.

However at the exact same time, I had hated Lucia, as she was my least favorite character until I read her route and finnaly understood her. She also had the most amount of foreshadowing and her common route scenes all had lots of things that would become meaningful later on. It felt really planned out and a second read of Lucia's route reveals lots that you may have over looked.

R07's writing is pretty entertaining for the most part, his work does suffer from dialogue sounding to "anime" like and characters responding in overly dramatized ways and no sane human being would possibly act that way, but he gets more hate than her deserved.

All just my opinion of course.

>>15991043
There is a weird circle jerk around hating R07 for no reason other than his work is popular, not saying there are no reasons to hate his style of writing but most people can't articulate what they have issues with because they honestly don't know how to analyze writing and could not tell good writing from bad writing from their own ass, especially VN readers.

One issue is that he holds very eastern ideas of writing, thing like endless cycles, death not meaning death, repeating dialogue, repeating themes, even repeating scenes are very much eastern concepts that most westerns find distasteful. Especially repeating dialogue and cyclical arguments that do not end.

Another thing is he has a lot of good ideas and executes them poorly, also he is a horrible finisher, he does not know how to end a story. A good example is Lucia's route in rewrite, lots of great themes, lot's of great lines, great mood and a real sense of mystery when investigating "Haruka Asahi" but once the confession in the church scene happens and the story starts to end everything goes down hill, from the dialogue to how erratic and unreasonable the character's actions become. Koutaro's and Lucia's dialogue becomes particularly unbearable and Lucia/koutarou/shizuru/chihaya action's were soo badly written the last 30 minutes of Lucia's route I had wished all the characters would have just died in a nuclear explosion.

However at the exact same time, I had hated Lucia, as she was my least favorite character until I read her route and finnaly understood her. She also had the most amount of foreshadowing and her common route scenes all had lots of things that would become meaningful later on. It felt really planned out and a second read of Lucia's route reveals lots that you may have over looked.

R07's writing is pretty entertaining for the most part, his work does suffer from dialogue sounding to "anime" like and characters responding in overly dramatized ways and no sane human being would possibly act that way, but he gets more hate than he deserves.

All just my opinion of course.

>>15991163
Rose Gun Days, Trianthology...

>>15990728
Reading the first part and it's pretty good so far.
I think it touches home too close with many readers, dealing with the hikikomori theme...

>>15983049
>How boring of a person can you be?
You could be me.

Been looking for something to read, and realized I've never read anything with a trap protagonist, especially not in a cliché girls school setting.

However, I know a lot of those games aren't great, especially Ensemble titles, from what I've read here. Are there any suggestions for legitimately decent-good ones?

>>15991612
Navel titles are a must read even if you aren't that much into trap protags imo. Give Tsuriotsu a shot

>>15991612
乙女が紡ぐ恋のキャンバス is often mentioned as being above the rest.

>>15991622
Will do, thanks anon. It's not so much that I'm not into them, it's that I've never even tried one.

>>15991623
I'll look into it too, in that case. Thanks as well, anon.

>>15991233
Rose Gun Days is shit having read the first game, didn't read his part in Trianthology yet

>>15990306
daito

>>15991879
Senmomo.

和風 cuties are the best.

>>15991831
Not sure why you thought that was relevant. Those are doujin games from his doujin circle released not too long ago. It's far more accurate to call him a doujin author than anything, even though he's done some official work.

>>15991891
>murderous xenophobes obsessed with religious loyalty to the nation

Sounds scary.

>>15991969
They're cute, it's fine.

>>15991115
Umineko became a clusterfuck in the end, in that by the end there was a ton of shit going on that you had to keep track of. But it all made sense if you thought about it enough so I'm not sure why that would be considered a negative. Props to the work for being able to juggle so many things at once successfully.

I think because of the meta shenanigans and magic bullshit and the whole hullabaloo about the ending people often forget that the 'real' scenes with the Ushiromiya family being their wonderful abusive fucked up selves are really well done, they do the family drama well even if those particular scenes often drag.

The backstabbing, the sibling rivalries, the habits ingrained from years of shit-talking and shit-taking, that was all surprisingly realistic in a good way. They felt like genuine characters, which was so odd to find in a story so fucking far removed from 'realism'.

which makes you feel it all the more when things devolve into shit like death-flag goat-kun or Kinzo's BEATORIIIIIIIIICHE or any of the billion other memorably insane/stupid/wacky moments.

Umineko's a weird piece of fiction.

Moogy said Umineko is shit and r07 is a bad writer.

>>15992066
Oddly enough I tend to agree with Moogy a lot of the time. But in this case I think he's definitely just being a hipster.

>>15992080
R07 being a bad writer isn't really debatable but I do think he has some good ideas sometimes.
But he is bad, I just want to repeat that because going through 8 episodes of Umineko was an ordeal and holy fuck are all his recent stuff boring as well

>>15992328
>R07 being a bad writer isn't really debatable
What? You having a strong opinion on something doesn't make it "not debatable".

>>15992338
Standards exist you know.
There is a level where you can claim something is simply bad, R07 reaches that level.
His style doesn't hold together at all, he repeat the same things 10 times in the same sentences, has no vocabulary, say fuck you to simple grammatical rules and the voice of all his characters is the same, there is so many wrong things about it it would be harder to find something good about his writing

>>15992358
I'm mainly being pedantic here, I'm sure you don't actually mean "it's not debatable", you just wanted to convey your strong feelings.

>>15989794
All of Iris's games are pretty shit, IMO. They're pretty subpar nukige with art that has somehow gotten worse over time.

>Unless you're waiting specifically for vanilla loli x shota romance
Loli x anyone romance actually. And that's what I meant in the first place; I like loli nukige and all but what I'd really like is some more "serious" with plot centered around lolis. Which will probably not be coming any time soon.

Like goddamn, at least AKB3 is trying. I liked the heroines at the very least, I have some expectation of enjoying it.

>>15992834
And by "serious" I mean moege at the very least. Something more substantial than nukige.

>>15991612
Otoboku 2. It's a lot better than what ensemble can offer.

>>15993230
Not that anon but Otoboku ”2”? Is the first one not worth it? Since you recommend it, I'm assuming it has no ties with the first one.
I'm asking since I'm also interested.

>>15991612
It's in a school setting but I would recommend you OtoPuri because that's the only game that I found where it does a decent job at treating the MC like a girl. Although the game itself is not that great.
Honorable mention for having a crossdressing Solid Snake.