/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>15903516

I've read an interview with the director of SMEE, where he mentions they use multiple writers and make all of them write around the same level of quality, don't put in too much of their personal quirks and make sure it's all safe for the reader etc.

This is why nobody likes elves.

>Her brother marries a not-dark-elf
>Instantly throw a hissyfit to him and his wife when they meet

Is Senmono August's worst game?

>>15904946
Yeah, racism (metaphorically) is exclusive to elves
>>15904981
I think their earlier games are worse. But out of Eustia, Daito, and Senmomo, Senmomo is definitely the worst by a significant margin.

Anybody read any of 大迷宮＆大迷惑 yet? Was it like Teito Hiten where Mareni just wrote a little bit or is it actually all him?

>>15905038
Hold your horses my friend, it literally came out today.

>>15905044

I expect you all to have finished the game already what do you think this is.

>>15905038
The trial was 1000% Mareni. My copy only arrived like half an hour ago, so I haven't read past that yet.

>>15905055
Upload when?

>>15905061
It's already up.
http://dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/detail/hobe_0337/

How old is the Senmono protag supposed to be? He looks and sounds like he's 30 but he goes to fucking high school

>>15905224

Some people just get to repeat a few years. Don't judge.

>>15904517
Was you too ashamed to show the text box?

Name one kusoge you hate that everybody else loves.

>>15905263
If everybody else loves it then it isn't a kusoge. I think you meant to write name one kamige that you don't like. To which the answer would be MuvLuv Alternative.

>>15905263
恋愛0キロメートル (and Asa Project in general)

>>15905263
Baldr Force. I am completely baffled that people ever thought it was good.

Who gives the best fuck 千の刃濤?

>>15905244
Why?

>>15905272
Uh, I can see why someone would think that in 2016 after Sky/Heart but saying "ever" just makes you look like a retard. You realize it came out in freaking 2002? That's just crazy. I mean I guess you were like 5 years old then so you wouldn't know.

can someone upload nodvd for それは舞い散る桜のように?

>>15905292
Wow. Touched a nerve, did I?

For the record, I haven't played any of the later Baldr games, and after the huge let-down that was Force I don't really care to.

>>15905325
Good, you don't deserve them.

>>15905325

what did you dislike about it

i haven't played force for the record but i'd like to know your opinions beyond just "it's bad"

Any good otome-games on PC or PSP?

>>15905350
Fuck off gaylord.

>>15905353
No u.

>>15905350
there are no good ones so you need to be a girl to like them

>>15905350
Your only bet for something close is the steampiunk series.

>>15905350
https://vndb.org/v6656
https://vndb.org/v8095
https://vndb.org/v13905
I'm a straight dude and enjoyed them immensely. Supplied with great stories, the flirtatious banters and interactions were really sweet and unique.

>>15905475
>I'm a straight dude and enjoyed them immensely.
I have bad news for you.

>>15905324
Play the original game. That one doesn't need nodvd and it's the superior version anyways.

>>15905475
Why would a dude play otome game?

>>15905346
As a sci-fi story it's mostly worthless. It's just stale cliches one after another. None of the ideas are all that well developed, and suspending your disbelief is pretty hard through most of it because it's just silly technomagic with tons of internal inconsistencies. If you've never read any sci-fi before in your life you might enjoy it more, I don't know. But at any rate, as far as the actual plot it's nothing to write home about.

This would have been forgivable had the characters been good, but almost none of them are in any way relatable or really even have much personality at all. Especially Ayane, fuck she was an awful character, and her route sucks and is pointless. I feel like it's a problem when you find yourself rooting for the ridiculously exaggerated cartoon villain as he rapes all the heroines, because you simply don't give a shit about any of them. Then there's the protagonist who makes genius decisions like "Well, I was planning to quit my job because my boss is a fucking evil lunatic who ordered me to murder children, but then my osananajimi kissed me, so whatever, I guess murdering children is fine." Give me a fucking break, lmao. His whole internal dialogue is immature and cringey as hell.

Then there's the gameplay. Well, it sucks, plain and simple. I don't think it's possible to defend it. Run around the playfield, spam missiles, win. Rinse and repeat. Over and over and over and over and over again. Oh, and you can't skip battles you've already won, and you have to replay most of them on every route. Enjoy.

All that said, I don't really feel like Baldr Force was THAT bad a game. It was just... not a good game, either. It certainly doesn't deserve anything like a goddamn 90 on EGS. Maybe more like a 65.

>>15905499
Being a cute girl is more fun than dating one

>>15905524
lol

>>15905524
congratulations you just found out people reviewing games on egs are just that, people ranging from mouthbreathing retards to eroge experts, and as such anything concerning that site is to be taken with a grain of salt

>>15905524
>As a sci-fi story it's mostly worthless. It's just stale cliches one after another. None of the ideas are all that well developed, and suspending your disbelief is pretty hard through most of it because it's just silly technomagic with tons of internal inconsistencies
Then remaining Baldr games are even worse than worthless. Utter garbage, with even more stupid and inconsistent cliches, and to make matters worse, tons of pointless school fanservice.

>>15905532
Especially, if a girl was written by a real girl and has its girlish soul.

>>15905532
Sharnoth made me feel like a cute girl more than any otome game I played.

>>15905635
Eroge needs more girl POV games that aren't otomege like Sakurais stuff.

I heard Re:Lief had a 20 year old female protag, so I'm looking forward to that.

So, what I will lose if I start Baldr Heart before Sky? Will I feel a huge downgrade if I went to Sky after playing Heart?

>>15905789
Why would you do that? Just play them in order.

>>15905645
>I heard Re:Lief had a 20 year old female protag
She is only a temporary protag, but I agree, it was refreshing playing as her for the first few hours.

Reminder that it took half a year before the last Mareni game was uploaded.

>>15905808
So buy it. He probably only wrote like 10% of the game again anyways. Better to play his railsoft stuff

>>15905794
Sky is too long for me to play right now.

>>15905816
That doesn't even make sense.

>>15905829
Why? It's almost October now and my hands are full with school at the moment.

>>15905789
Gameplaywise it will be obvious downgrade as Sky is less refined/balanced version of same system albeit having bit more weapons.
On plot side it's more like you probably can't appreciate how the setting has evolved or the direction it's heading if you don't read Sky and to some extend Force as they get refered here and there, and in Heart you see all kinds of effects what the events of Force/Sky brought to world.

>>15905867
Because playing 1 hour a day is the same regardless of what you play

>>15905909
I see, thanks. Then I'll put Heart on hold till I finish Sky then.

Anyone here read Clover Days? Can you tell me if the slice of life is well-written? I usually like Alcot stuff but it looks pretty average and boring aside from the art.

>>15906102
If you like their stuff you should be good. It's far and away their best title.

>>15906114
I've enjoyed their bakage titles like Onigokko, Nakahito, and Kicking Horse Rhapsody. Well at least it has the same writers, I just hope it isn't as boring as it looks.

>>15906124
Its not as "bakage" as those titles, but its definitely their best title so if you like moeges you'll definitely enjoy it.

>>15905524
I haven't played Force myself so I can't chime in on that and from what I've seen on this thread it seems to be a pretty divisive game, but I'd personally recommend giving Sky a try. I really enjoyed Dive 1 and Sky in general is usually considered the best in the series.

At least gameplay wise both it and Heart are much more than what you described Force to be like. The main setting and world building were easily my favorite parts of Sky, though admittedly the main story had some silly Deus Ex Machinas, certain antagonists were pigeonholed completely non-redeemable villain archetypes like the rapist you described (though there were also some good villains with understandable motivations) and by Dive 2 it starts to suffer from repetition and the final route in particular was way too 王道 to my liking. Heart improves the gameplay further with better weapon unlock system and other small changes.

>>15905324
>mfw I'm listening to the OP atm.

>>15906442
I always liked the ed (mid-route insert song) more.

>>15905816
Well you can start with whatever you want. Just bear in mind that gameplay-wise, Heart is the hardest among them. Some battles are hard even on Normal difficulty if you don't have the proper setup.

>>15906447
I think I like both of them equally. Can't decide which one is better.

>>15906375
I've played Force (it was my first eroge). I admit that it was a lot simpler than Sky (no aerial combos IIRC). Back then I had no idea how to combo and I could still beat through it on Very Hard with just a single Force Crash. I still enjoyed the gameplay though since there wasn't anything like in 2007. Heck, I dare say it's one hell of an improvement from Bullet (which didn't even have FCs).

So finished Izumo 4. Imouto route + new game+ with Hakuto. (though I didn't go till the ending, only till before the final dungeon which are most scenes anyway and is enough for the extra boss)

Story was garbage-tier. You are better off skipping any main-story dramatic parts I feel. It's a bit subjective at some points, but there's a good amount of drama that's relatively objectively bad and only enjoyable if you enjoy drama for the sake of drama. (as in it's insanely predictable. As in "a heroine needs to be killed or else she turns into a monster, WHAT CAN WE DO" if we just got a scene before that gives a decent idea + you know she can't die anyway 'cause eroge and she is on the cover..)
On the flipside the characters are actually good. Interaction is fine and their personal drama is for the most part pretty good, as far as I've seen it at least. Provided it's not really part of the main-story at least. I really feel the author(s) had to write certain plot elements because it's an Izumo game or something and were super uncomfortable with it.

Technically the writing also has some issues. Too much useless narration including some that just recaps what the dialog said as well. And the "let every character have exactly one line" issue at certain parts. Towards the end there's an especially painful part where 8 further characters join the normal cast and you get this several times in a row, where everyone drops their one line in a totally mattering way, just so they had a line. Ouch


Gameplay feels like an arcade-style rpg. It's linear. You can't buy stuff. No consumables. Don't expect healing before bosses, mostly doesn't happen. It's starts really underwhelming, but can get rather fun later on, except for random encounters which suck. Some of the "bosses" were really fun to fight though. No exp grinding at all necessary (nor useful) either. What you normally encounter while exploring should be enough.

>>15907478
>And the "let every character have exactly one line" issue at certain parts.
I know exactly what you mean. This irked me in Venus Blood Empire because the fact it's unknown which heroines you'll have present at which time led to their comments having zero relevance and get ignored.

Which version of Himawari should I get? The original or the Pebble in the Sky version?

Am I the only one finding Senmomo bad? There's so much wrong with this I could write a book.

>>15907813
I felt the same way. Couldn't even finish it.

>>15907817

Ok good, I feel less like a contrarian in that case. I'm in the last chapter now so I figure I may as well but... wow.

At least the girls are cute.

Is Senmomo the biggest disappoint of 2016? There's resounding discontent all over the place.

Reading utawarerumono futari no hakuoro. I only watched the anime of the second game so I am a little fuzzy on one thing. This is a big early game spoiler: Why was Kuon so fucking mad at Oshutoru all of the sudden? She basically tries to beat him to death for calling Haku a friend and was completely triggered by him even saying Haku's name. I don't remember her being mad at him when Haku died.

>>15907813
What is so bad about it?

>>15907877

I really don't like bashing games and clouding other people's opinions before they start so I will spoiler all of this and you guys can read if you want.

Long sections of stagnation and detours full of shit I don't care about causing the main plot to stop moving for so long that I cease to care about it. When the main plot does actually start moving it changes direction many times with a number of poorly executed "twists" which causes any excitement I had to disappear. MC is possibly the blandest character I've seen in eroge and it destroys a lot of the game, and no, the fact that he's actually a sword made from MAGIC is not an excuse for this. Half-baked 武人 ideals leading to some extremely annoying and questionable thought processes (did something bad, better kill myself), more than one time. The way Elsa's entire character was handled, she had interesting ideals and the conversations on 忠義 were good but there's so little of it that her character is completely wasted and turned into this annoying cunt with no redeeming features, no matter how much they try to get me to like her after the fact it's not enough. Lack of resolution, the following sequence of events was used so many times I lost count: fucked up thing happens -> everyone's ready to attack and overthrow -> MC says "we can't do anything right now better calm down and wait for the perfect time to strike"-> everyone calms down -> more aggravation as fucked up things happen -> repeat. To make matters worse, when they finally do start trying to do things the plans MC and co have fails or is insufficient for some reason which means nearly the entire game is just MC's side fucking up and not accomplishing anything while constantly getting bested by Elsa and the disgustingly smug occupying "totally america but we're not going to say it's america" forces. Lots of predictable reveals and twists and characters making irrational decisions. The latter bits of the plot have been told in infodumps and now that I'm at the last chapter I'm reading something going in an entirely different direction than it was a few hours ago. The real villain is an absurd archetype of "I'M DOING BAD THINGS AND MURDERING PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S FUN". Last but not least ripping off Kuon no Kizuna.

I can go on, but yeah. I do appreciate the large scale and attempt at making something like this in the year 2016, however a lot of this simply rubs me the wrong way. Your mileage may vary, but this one has clearly been a miss for me.

>>15907954
I'm also reading Senmomo (at Kotone route atm) and enjoying it a lot, so let me explain what I like about it to provide a counteropinion.

It stands on the strength of its characters. Each of the heroines are strongly developed, with a backstory and motive that justifies their actions and makes me care about them. You have to appreciate how cute and idealistic they are, to feel their love for MC and for 忠義. And their interactions with each other are enormous fun.

I don't see what you have against Eruza either? She fights to bring freedom and protect the common people. After growing up believing in her father being a hero of justice, and discovering the truth, instead of falling into despair, she rose up and swore to become what she always idolised. Everything she did was perfectly justified.

Now I agree with some of your complaints, especially about MC being boring. It does definitely hurt the dialogue a fair bit, but I'm enjoying it regardless. Maybe it's no Eustia but it's still great.

>>15908074
I'm not the guy you're responding to, but I wouldn't consider any of the characters strongly developed. One point of contention for me throughout was how two dimensional they often acted.

Are there any decent games that are like otome/yaoi artsyle
But no gay stuff or reverse harem

>>15904946
T. Troll

>>15905268
You're not meant to take them seriously i hated it at first but grew to accept it as a comedy.

Kinda would like if it was a parody of eroge itself as it kinda did at some points.

>>15908074

I disagree. The heroines are a little more interesting than Eustia's though, and there is nothing PAINFULLY bad like Eris' route, I will give you that. However, the sheer amount of stuffy ideals that govern all of their actions makes them feel quite two-dimensional. It feels like they have no autonomy and are acting solely based on a set of ideals. I mean yeah, I think they're cute and seeing cracks in the ideology armor is nice, but I wouldn't consider any of them to be truly compelling characters.

I don't feel that Elsa's character was properly utilized for a lot of reasons. She may claim she wants to be like Soujin and live a life she can be proud of but her actions certainly don't reflect that. And no, I don't care how much she idolized her father or believed his stupid slogans, going along with his garbage to the extent that she has in spite of knowing the truth and constantly manipulating and pressuring everyone around her goes a little beyond what I would consider "justified". Don't forget her plan was to just fucking murder all of the 武人 in the 竜胆作戦 until her father nuked an entire town full of innocent people. Yeah, she tried to help those people but she is STILL PART OF THE INVADING FORCES DOING ALL OF THIS SHIT and continues to be part of it, even after that event. Elsa is absolutely not a likeable character for me and I certainly don't think everything she did was justified. Soujin should have killed her at that early battle and they would have probably avoided a lot of pain. Seriously, think about it. What was the benefit of letting her live? She hasn't followed through on anything yet and has actively fucked with their efforts. Here is her brilliant ideology: "I want to bring peace to the common people, therefore I trample their country and cast my father's war crimes on the the 武人 who I know are actually trying to save their country", even if she feels bad about it, she still fucking did it, twice. If you don't see the 矛盾 in all of this I don't know what else to say. She is morally bankrupt at best and I honestly have no clue how you can call her actions perfectly justified.

If you like the game, that's great. I guess we just disagree on some key points and that is fine too. One thing I do like about Senmomo is that it's bringing out some mixed viewpoints and promoting discussion if nothing else.

I got around playing Kono oozora ni and i've read that you need to finish Kotori's route to unlock Amane's
Since i'm not really interested in doing Kotori's, at which point does the common route end so i can start ctrling?
Or i guess i could do one of the twins first

>>15908138
You have to remember that the Empire is not the perfect utopia it's made out to be. That the 武人 are responsible for the deaths of countless people. To you, the Republic soldiers might be faceless meat shields, but to Eruza they are her friends and her compatriots. To you, the 皇帝 might be a benevolent just ruler, but to her, it's a dictatorship ruling the populace with an iron fist, killing any who rebel or speak out. Think of the rules taken for granted, the instant death penalties for insulting the 皇帝. Her goal is to liberate the masses from this tyranny.

Now, yes, she had the plan to kill all the 武人. But when you know only too well how devoted they are, when you've seen them fight from underground and slaughter your troops in the name of 忠義, surely there is reason to be afraid. She had no reason to believe they would peacefully go along with her plans to introduce democracy, she knew there was good chance they would betray her as soon as the mission was over, killing the Republic's soldiers and restoring the old regime. And she was right. If she had gone along with the 竜胆作戦 as agreed and there hadn't been unexpected interference from her father, there would have been war. Think how many tens of thousands of innocent lives would have been needlessly lost. By killing a few hundred 武人, she is securing a brighter future for the millions of innocent civilians, and bringing peace and freedom to the Empire. Is it not a fair trade?

>>15908142
>Since i'm not really interested in doing Kotori's
>>>/lgbt/

>>15908157
Are you aware of how your post is pretty much a 1:1 defense for dropping the atomic bomb? I wonder if that duality was intentional in the game.

>>15908157

No, the loss of their cultural identity and traditions, warping of their history, being forcibly ruled by a foreign country and living under their ideals and version of events is certainly not a fair trade. You are operating on the completely incorrect assumption that what she and her father are bringing is a guaranteed brighter future, and the simple fact is that it isn't. Elsa's ideals aside, her father isn't after a "brighter future" in the first place, he's looking to become a war profiteer (see image).

And if you want to go deeper, we can leave all of that aside too. Even if it WAS a far brighter future, there is no evidence that the people living there wished for them to interfere in the first place and it was not their place to do so. It's like if I came to your house, took all of your family pictures and childhood memorabilia or whatever you hold important and burned it all in front of your face, then said "I'm your new leader now. This stuff fucking sucked, I got rid of it for you. You have to live in this empty house for a while but at some point I'll get you some stuff that I think is better. You should be happy that I came here uninvited and did this for you". Come on man, you wouldn't be happy with that.

Her "friends" died because they invaded a country they had no business being in in the first place. Why should we feel sympathy?

>>15908174
The difference is important - Eruza was killing soldiers who were trying to kill her, while the atomic bomb was against civilians. I'm not defending her father, who is basically America with his fire-bombing of the innocent civilian town to wipe out the "terrorists", but she was opposed to that, because she recognises the difference between innocents and soldiers.

>>15908185
There's an element of truth in what you say. But you're making the assumption that all civilians supported the 皇帝's rule. I don't think this is true - we see some civilians spit on and despise the remnant 武人, we see the huge support Eruza gets when she brings about democracy in her route. While we get a distorted picture since most of our POV is from the view of a 武人, I think there's a good chance a large amount of the common populace actually welcomed the Republic invasion, and rejoiced as freedom was introduced. If that's the case, is Eruza justified? I believe so.

Obviously her father is morally corrupt, but Eruza is not her father, and I feel her route is clear evidence that the future of the Empire under her ideal is a brighter one.

>>15908223
Actually, in Japan before the bombs were dropped, even civilians were being told to fight tooth and nail against the American army. So they were practically soldiers and would have fought as such.

>>15908236
These are entire cities we're talking about. Maybe some would obey that command, but how many little boys and girls and babies, old and disabled people, prisoners and conscientious objectors, scholars and scientists were killed? It's ludicrous to argue they were soldiers.

>>15908310
A simple trolley problem. It has been debating endlessly and the conclusion consistently arrived at is the number of civilians who would have followed that creed is high enough that dropping the bombs actually saved millions of civilian lives in the end. Kill some innocents, spare far more innocents.

>>15907877
For utawarerumono, didn't watch the anime to the end as I was getting annoyed how it was being handled but from what I hear they really ruined later scenes in the game especially how they handled that thing. They also left some important plot points out of anime like Hakus past isn't really talked about aparently in anime, well considering the anime left out the flashabacks early on I can see that

>>15907877
>Reading utawarerumono futari no hakuoro. I only watched the anime of the second game
jesus christ

The view of the empire in Senmomo is so one sided it isn't worth having an argument about it

>>15908476
Yep, it boils down to empire=good republic=super evil and led by a butthurt evil retard.

>>15908552
I was afraid that would happen but you fags told me that it wouldn't be that way before the game was released.

I guess I should hold off since the reviews here are mixed at best.

>>15908476
How many games has notJapan as the overwhelming good guys and doesn't suck?

>>15908568
In Rance world Free Cities are most "good" countries out there. Rest including JAPAN suck.

While everyone is foaming over senmomo, Utaware 3 is sitting at a median of 95 with over 20 votes. Should've picked the actually good fantasy game huh?

>>15908598
>tfw too poor for consoles

>>15908606
It's on Vita too which you can get for like 80 bucks used

>>15908609
I'm two bucks away from not making rent this month.

>>15908609
And even hack it to pirate games if you get a 3.60 firmware one.

Too bad I already sold mine at the start of the year.

>>15908590
Even the free cities have places that suck, Post 03 Leazas is the best place to live in that world.

>>15908568
>How many games has notJapan as the overwhelming good guys and doesn't suck?
Rose Gun Days.

Though to be fair, it does criticize the jap government quite a bit.

>>15908598
Sequels are always overrated and Senmomo has a very high score too.

No one playing D&D? It's already available for download

https://mega.nz/#!4t5GlRzS!DbfAkwZFc_Pv-D9UjZRw4iN4W6J4XtcbLM3YuBWRFyk

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1022853.html
http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201610010019/

DLSite wants to introduce downloadable game rentals protected by their new DRM. Do they think it's invincible or what? This is probably going to make it more convenient for pirates because you won't have to pay the full price - just rent the game for a week, crack it and enjoy it forever.

>>15906102
I liked it but Izumi route was so bad that it significantly lowered my rating for the game. The twin route is pretty much just a bunch of hscenes.

Tsubame route is nice and the sister ones aren't bad either.

>>15909154

At least they pay something then.

This kind of approach is something the music industry also kinda went with. Offer cheap unlimited flatrates for music for a monthly fee. It's not very rentable for anyone really, but it IS money. And if it's cheap enough, and offers comfort, people will pay.

Obviously this is still different from that, but it's somewhat of a similar direction. The "comfort" part and such need to be nailed though. Which probably won't be. And then the question is how expensive will it still be.
The question however will be, if all of this is even worth it for a niché medium that is eroge. For mainstream mediums like big US tv series or music or "international" not adult games you may get away with it, as long as it's cheap enough and reaches enough people. But for Japanese porn games? I.. dunno about that.

>>15909102
can you post link?

>>15909206
It was already posted.

I'm not really interested in playing through senmomo, but can anyone spoil me briefly on what was behind the whole sword magic thing?
someone said the protagonist was actually a materialized sword, is that true?

>>15909214
No, a free link.

>>15909229
God given magic and yes.

>>15909265
check archive

>>15909451
Not him, but thanks.

>>15909154
>>15909184
They are probably making it as an alternative for the second hand sales, which might actually work. If they can somehow make it succesful and destroy the second hand system, making uncrackable games are not that impossible after that.

>>15909154
The idea is probably get some money out of people.
I might be willing to spend 1000 yen or so on an impulse rental of a game and send a couple of shekels towards the developers especially if it's an older game that's hard to find good downloads of or it's a newer game not yet released by those chink faggots.
Doubly so if I could crack the DRM and keep it around forever.

I think nukige are the best for this. fuck paying 9,000 yen for a random-ass nukige, no matter how hot the art looks (tenioha 2 for example). Rent for a week, get some good faps, be done with it.

>>15909891
Yeah definitely this. I'd pay 2000-2500 yen for some games which I'm interested even if they already have a torrent, just for the sake of supporting.

>>15909797
>making uncrackable games are not that impossible after that

Making "uncrackable" games, as in drastically increasing the amount of effort you need to exert to set your foot through the door so it's going to take too much money/time/resources/effort is not possible without employing dedicated hardware in your PC (which is already there but it's still a few years until someone's going to make use of it for DRM). I think Denuvo only does well because of lack of interest since it doesn't really employ anything groundbreaking compared to previous protections and it's protection is still all software. Though if there's nobody interested in cracking AAA games then interest in cracking eroge might be even lower.

Or do you mean a streaming model?

>>15909891
>Doubly so if I could crack the DRM and keep it around forever.

The DRM doesn't seem simple enough anyone can do it and if someone released an universal tool it's just going to be patched so you'd have to play cat and mouse with them. There might be a simple method of prolonging the rental period forever (by spoofing system time and faking license server response most likely) but we'll see once they launch it. But mikocon are definitely going to be happy since they're going to pay peanuts for a game, crack it instantly, put it in their VIP section and play the good guys saying if you really want the game just go rent it, we only do it for those who can't.

Reminder that 姉姉W催眠 is still uncracked over a month later.

>>15908084
Dies Irae and KKK's handsome male characters are apparently really popular among female players.

>>15907755
>Which version of Himawari should I get?
Probably Pebble in the Sky. I haven't played the original, but I assume it didn't have that many H-scenes and they still imply that the characters had sex even in the new all ages version. Pebble in the Sky also has improved art and includes the side story novels as well, though they're unvoiced and have no sprites, but they do have some new CG and BGM.

Pebble in the Sky doesn't have Aqua After fan disc though, so you should download and play that separately after finishing Pebble in the Sky.

>>15909797
But will destroying the second hand system do any good for eroge?
Almost all of the second hand eroge come from multicopy buying based on tokuten in different shops. Damage to the second hand market will probably reduce such sales and hurt the most devoted fans out there.

>>15910007
I'd take a look at it if I didn't have to pay for the game and were confident in my basic cracking skills.

>>15909985
>Though if there's nobody interested in cracking AAA games then interest in cracking eroge might be even lower.
Actually this was what I meant. I know even the denuvo is not "uncrackable" and currently there is nothing as a uncrackable DRM, but the eroge scene is a pretty small one and doesn't have any proper crackers at all (except one guy) so they are pretty much fighting against one chinese guy.

It doesnt have to be even a denuvo level, if they can manage to do something which cant be cracked by him, their eroges will be uncracked for a very long time. And making such a DRM is not even that hard, but the second hand sales are getting their way.

>>15910198
>It doesnt have to be even a denuvo level, if they can manage to do something which cant be cracked by him, their eroges will be uncracked for a very long time. And making such a DRM is not even that hard, but the second hand sales are getting their way.

My impression is developers in the eroge industry are really goddamn incompetent. To buy protection is one thing, you need to know how to make use of it as well. From what I've seen PlayDRM is renamed Enigma Protector so when protecting your game you get a lot of features to choose from when wrapping your executable - you can download a demo if you want to take a look, I imagine eroge devs have no idea what they do because an average coder definitely doesn't - and in such scenario you need to code your own DRM checks in the game, protect them with Engima (obfuscation, VMs) to be really effective. What I'm saying, there's no good protection that simply allows you to drag and drop the file on it and have all relevant parts protected automatically (in such case is just a packer/crypter) - IIRC Denuvo for example protects games in close cooperation with developers and they place custom triggers that can activate while playing the game so it takes effort to remove.

http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=2139373

キンギンザイホウ！

Kanojo Step and Daimeikyuu, today's a good day.

>>15909985

>I think Denuvo only does well because of lack of interest since it doesn't really employ anything groundbreaking compared to previous protections and it's protection is still all software.

You're probably correct

I believe the first time Denuvo was actually 100% cracked (not by using some bypass method to get around Denuvo) was right after the release of the newest Doom game. Before that point, I don't remember there being any really notable Denuvo releases. If Half Life 3 or some super-hyped game was protected by Denuvo, it'd be cracked within a week.

What's a real good trainwreck? Something like fast food that's enjoyable but you know it's shit.

>>15910530
>Before that point, I don't remember there being any really notable Denuvo releases.
Metal Gear Solid V
Just Cause 3
Star Wars Battlefront
Mad Max
Dragon Age Inquisition
FIFA 15/16
Batman: Arkham Knight
(I know some of these have been cracked, but not any within a week)

>>15910542
Senmomo

>>15910597
>enjoyable

>>15910542
ML Alternative, G Senjou no Maou come to mind.

>>15910542
Akagoei

>>15910597
>>15910620
Will this be the new local meme?

>>15910677
give it a week or two so people forget about it, it's just been released

Do you know what else has been released? D&D

>>15910685
This is august we're talking about. Daito and Eustia have been non-stop hot topics for the past five years. If Senmomo was a random game by a random company, perhaps it'd be forgotten, but as it stands it will likely become the black sheep of the "August Trio" and will never be forgotten as such.

>>15910697
I'm not interested. I don't like Liar soft's style in both graphics and writing.

>>15910700
August has way worse titles, it's just the same two people being vocal about their senmomo hate here (of which one is Quof). senmomo is still a great game and above 80 on EGS. Some people just go in with ridiculous expectations and then complain when they aren't met. Hell I saw people here call even Baldr Heart trash when it was fantastic.

>>15910697
I wish I could enjoy it but Mareni kicks my ass so hard it's not even funny

How are they going to adapt Chaos;Child?
Doing the common route will be easy, but what about everything else?

Will they just stop there? Will they adapt True without even bothering with the heroine routes? Will they add stuff from those into the main route?

I would personally like 24 episodes of the main route, followed by 13 with the heroine routes and True. How would people react to the alternate endings? Would that not be acceptable in an anime format?

>>15910717
Start with Shinju no Yakata. You get a bonus Romeo on top.

>>15910718
Probably anime original stuff like rewrite.

>>15910723
I wish his route didn't exist. It was way too out of place and ended up dragging down the quality of the overall game.

>>15910700
Yoake Mae and Fortune Arterial were pretty popular in their time as well so I'd call them as "August quintette" or something. Also senmomo is not a bad game at all, just wasn't as good as some people's expectations, its all.

>>15910714
The 80 will probably drop to 77-78 though, every popular game starts with a high score. As I said its definitely not a bad game, but not as good as Eustia or something either. Also I'm one of those who's complaining about the short heroine routes as well, I'm really hoping for some full routes for every heroines in their next game.

>>15910530
I don't mean interest in games, I mean interest in the protection. Reversing it entirely from ground up could take months but you can of course find a quicker shortcut even though it's not going to give you a clean crack. It looks like nobody wants to invest so much time because there is no Denuvo crack that removes the protection entirely, all of them just patch the right places so the game looks legit and let the protection do its thing. I think the warez scene got old, crackers left and there's nobody to take up the torch because the barrier of entry is too high these days (I wouldn't know where to start if I were to tackle some AAA game protection, even the older ones like Securom and Solidshield, there's no information about them on the internet) and the new generation doesn't give a fuck or sees piracy as evil.

>>15910746
>I'm really hoping for some full routes for every heroines in their next game.
I don't, that shit should stay in moege. Rather have them focus on a good true route like here again.

>>15910714
I don't think it's fair to say there's just two people, there have been several, not to mention that EGS score isn't really that indicative of quality past a certain point, moege tend to get 70-80 too. Not to mention, from the reviews I've read, a lot of those points come from the visuals and production values, not the story and writing which has been most under fire. Just look at the latest reviews.
>>15910746
I don't think those two games get discussed much which is why I didn't include them. Fortune Arterial I know was really popular but it doesn't get brought up nearly as often as Daito or Eustia. I also don't think Senmomo was bad, maybe I wasn't clear but when I called it the "black sheep" I mean people will probably be like "Yeah, August is great, try out Daitoshokan or Aiyoku no Eustia... Umm, but you probably don't want to play Sen no Hatou first." "I love August, Daitoshokan and Eustia were great. (leaving out Senmomo)" and so on.

>>15910718
I think you should not count on it being more than one cour.
Silver Link probably doesn't have margin to do two cour show at this time.
And Jinbou Masato certainly won't do two cour with this timing when he'll have to do both direction and series composition.

>>15910746
>>15910765
People change, old ones leave, new ones come, so it makes sense newer titles would get more attention.

And Eustia is mentioned constantly even EOPs, so it sticks in memory.

Man Daitoshokan is so fucking overrated
Like it was enjoyable but the fucking festival took forever and was full of cliche shit like the boob grab heroine introduction and the 女装. It's not like August has been producing completely perfect games.

>>15910789
It delivered in the areas it had to for the most part.

>>15910750
They could easily make some full proper heroine routes and a true route like here. Having good heroine routes doesn't mean they have to make a shitty true route for balancing things you know. And its not like they're making a game for every year or something so they definitely have enough time for focusing all of them, Hell they announced senmomo like 2 years ago or something. Eustia definitely wasn't a moege, but it has way better routes than senmomo because chapters were longer so you could feel some development so unfortunately I'm not agreeing with your logic.

>>15910765
Moege getting 80+ is actually pretty rare, and when it happens it's usually a very good title (Daitoshokan for example).

>>15910802
70-80 as in within that range.

>>15910768
Do you think they really didn't learn after that mess Chaos;Head, and the success they had with Steins;Gate? The anime was announced a year and a half ago, too.
I'm not sure on how they will handle it, especially concerning the stuff after the main route as I said, but I do have some hope that at least they won't just give it a single cour.

>>15910843
Remember robotic;notes?

>>15910749
There's also a general trend of people being a lot less tech-savy. Even 4chan is already full of people who can barely use a browser.

This discussion is one week too early.

Occultic;Nine airs next week. We'll see how that goes

Why did SMEE go for evil eyes?

>>15910718
Just adapt the common route with a little bit of Nono's route mixed in. The true route isn't that big of a deal and we don't really need the heroine's routes even if some shit goes down in them.

One question about the game: Why did Serika have so much venom for Senri? She seems fine with him having some fun with Hana and Hinae.

>>15910863
Their artist ran away for another company, so I guess they had to deal with whoever they can find fastest. They didn't even write the artist's name at their home page.

>>15910848
They did give that 2-cours, though. And I haven't read the VN, but I've heard that the problem was that it wasn't even that good in the first place.

>>15910853
That one isn't part of the Sci-ADV series, though. But I guess it could somehow serve as a reference.
Is Anonymous;Code still coming out this year?

>>15910714
>senmomo hate here
lol Fuck off. Go see the Senmomo thread in bbspink, they've been shitting on it nonstop since its release. EGS isn't an indicator of anything anymore these days, you're retarded if you take it seriously. Senren Banka has median 80, what's your point?

>>15910877
And bbspink is?

>>15910865
For the exact same reasons Nono gave her in her route she's actually a yandere cunt who's choosing people Takuru loves as targets for her killings so she hates her because she feels she's more important to him.

>>15910877
Vocal minority yadayada. 150+ votes on EGS matters more than your (obviously very bitter and jaded) opinion. It's not Eustia level, but it still is a very good game.

Oh, those two free games by Applique and Akatsuki Works are out today, it seems.

Could anyone reupload them to MEGA? AkabeiSoft blocks non-JP IPs.

>>15910865
Because Takuru actually found something else to live for with Nono. As far as Serika's concerned, Hinae and Hana are only silly teenage romances. Nono stole her reason to live.

I really liked how Serika acted in Nono's route. It was a bit weird in the main route with how suddenly she made a complete 180.

And yes, the Nono route is the one that definitely needs to be added in to the anime, but how would they integrate it into the main route?

Are lolis on the decline?

>>15910889
EGS is a minority, do you think only 150 read the game? It's not called a den of pirates separate from the mainstream for nothing. I also don't see why you wave off bbspink as a vocal minority and then end your post by stating your own opinion.

Whether Senmomo is a good game or not is a matter of opinion. That there is a lot of discontent in is not.

>>15910899
That tweet is old. I hope the game is good at least and wasn't churned out because the company was dying.
>>15910901
You see more "discontent" for every game by default, because people who don't like things complain, and do so loudly. There is many more people who like the game rather than not.

>>15910911
>That tweet is old
What. It was posted this week.

>>15910911
>27 Sep 2016

Wasn't that Tuesday?

>>15910911
>You see more "discontent" for every game by default, because people who don't like things complain, and do so loudly.
By your logic, the game would be drowned in negative reviews. Instead, there's a balance of praise and discontent. You defeat yourself in your own post.

>>15910914
>>15910916
I guess 'old' was a strong word but when I see a tweet pic being posted I think something was just announced. The thing has been on the front page of EGS for a few days as well
>>15910921
I don't even know what your point is anymore? I never said the game is perfect or only gets praise, just that the positives outweigh the few negatives. People here make it seem like its the opposite, when it clearly isn't.

>>15910898
They need to adapt Nono's route so we can see every side to Serika's personality. In the common route Serika is too much of a robot rather than a complete psycho. Plus she needs to be pinned with murders that have nothing to do with Takuru such as the owner of her apartment to make her more irredeemable.

>Because Takuru actually found something else to live for with Nono. As far as Serika's concerned, Hinae and Hana are only silly teenage romances. Nono stole her reason to live.
Takuru is either dead or doomed in their routes. I guess as long as he didn't actually make the choice to abandon her or the way he is and has a bit of fun she is fine with it.

>>15910883
Nono was sort of of sharp with that. I didn't think of it until she said it. Mind reading yandere is far more scary than most other things. I wonder how Chaos;Child ChuChu will handle Serika, chances are they might ignore that part and and just make it like Uki's route mixed with Hinae's delusional world.

>so she hates her because she feels she's more important to him.
I wonder why Serika let her live for so long.

>>15910951
I take issue with you calling the widespread discontent that of a "vocal minority" and that any complaints directed against it are from bitterness as the game itself is great. People have opinions. Your opinion is that the game is good. OK. Don't go around saying everyone has that opinion except for a minority of "bitter and jaded" folk who are just incapable of telling that the game is "actually good". You even say here
>the positives outweigh the few negatives. People here make it seem like its the opposite, when it clearly isn't.
No, it's not "clear", people disagree. Your opinion is not fact.

>>15910899
I think he explains it pretty clearly in the following tweets that it is possible to finish the game in time but then he'll have no time to do a proper promotional campaign. Read compilation of the related tweets: http://togetter.com/li/1029776
Without proper advertising and promotion probably almost any full-price title will be a disaster and will bring loses to the company.

I guess their decision to delay it but do things properly is for the better. October has other loli titles too.

>>15910964
It's pretty clear. If the balance was really that tilted into the negative then the game wouldn't be anywhere near 80+. Games where lots of people think it's shit get abysmal ratings, like Lamunation. It just so happens that my (and a couple friends of mine who also read it/are reading it) happens to align with the majority who thought the game was great. I'm not sure why you have such trouble accepting that you're in the minority of people who don't like the game, it happens. I dislike some popular titles as well (but at least I can see in what way they're good and why people like them, rather than saying they're outright bad).

>>15910889
But it's not my opinion, I'm a different poster. I just had to call you out if you think it's just one or two people here because that's not true. If you don't know what bbspink is or how many people still participate in it (Senmomo thread is currently the second fastest thread in /hgame2/) then you seem a bit disconnected from the Japanese eroge community which makes your initial statement absurd.

Either way, most seem to agree that it isn't a bad game, but there's no doubt that the opinion on it is very divided (and certainly disappointed), it's not just a "minority" and certainly not reduced to some people in this thread, included whoever you namedropped in your post. I didn't say anything about the game itself.

>>15911007
Your opinion is not fact. The votes on EGS are not fact, nor the majority - 150 people in a secluded community are not the majority of players. And finally, it is NOT clear that the positives outweighted the negatives. That is NOT a fact. That is an OPINION. It is YOUR opinion. Perhaps it is the majority's OPINION. But that does not make the discontent that of whining, jaded, cynical individuals who can't see what's "clear". It means that people have OPINIONS, and those opinions VARY. You think the positives outweigh the negatives. Other people don't. Neither are correct, neither are wrong. *End of story*.

>>15911007
Lamunation was shit but a lot of the votes were because people hated the writer for being an asshole.

>>15910957
I don't think Serika is really that much of a clingy yandere, just very focused on fulfilling her reason for existing. While she let her personal feelings get in the way and started picking targets close to Takuru for the reasons explained in Nono's route, she probably wouldn't have killed anyone if Takuru hadn't wished for her "game" in the first place. Even in Nono's route Serika eventually accepts her own death because Takuru chooses Nono. I wouldn't be surprised if her "yandere" personality was also a role she was playing for Takuru's sake. Same in Hinae's route which ends with Serika saying that Takuru wished for that type of ending (dying for a girl he loves). The robotic personality is probably her true face.

>>15911034
I heard about this on reddit but I have no idea what he did. Fill me in?

>>15911059
There is a whole matome about it: http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2146527885718927001
Just read it or something.

>>15911036
>she probably wouldn't have killed anyone if Takuru hadn't wished for her "game" in the first place.
She killed that owner of the apartment she is staying in.
Yeah, I agree that she isn't much of a yandere but she is still fucked in the head. Also Serika's feelings about Nono built up over time most likely.

> I wouldn't be surprised if her "yandere" personality was also a role she was playing for Takuru's sake.
I think she legitimately wanted him to choose her.

>>15911069
>Q2. シナリオはどうやって書くの？ A2. ヒロイン「うんこ爆弾をくらえ！」 ドカーン！！ 主人公「ぐわぁーー！」 ↑これが書ければOK

Is he wrong?

>>15911069
>matome.naver.jp/odai/2146527885718927001
he doesn't even seem that awful. japan getting their pantsu in a bunch as always.

Where is this 特典 from?

>>15911098
I think his looks says it all.
He is not someone who would be accepted easily with eroge audience.
His problematic statements and attitude only add fuel to the fire.

>>15911125
If someone like this can become an eroge writer, why can't I?
I actually have so many good scenario ideas pop up in my head when I'm just laying in bed that I think people would enjoy, though I'm not sure if could write prose.

>>15911135
Because you don't know Japanese.

>>15911135
>why can't I?
>I'm not sure if could write prose.

>>15911140
>>15911136
Well that's the point, neither can he. He just inserts random English phrases and memes in between events.

>>15911069
>ブランドの新年会に現役高校生を招待するけっぽし（参加実現せず）
>エロゲブランドの名を冠しながら業界人＆クリエイターの交流会という体で開催、 年齢に条件は設けず中高生でも参加できるガバガバ具合

>>15911135
He literally says in the matome that more people should write and not be afraid.
As for prose, that's a mechanical (ish) skill you can improve simply by reading a lot and practicing a lot.

H-Help.

And continuing the rpg-spree. This one seems fun so far. Then again I kinda expected that from Alice Soft. Also this face-sprite.

>>15911162
Time to japanese.

>>15911162
Do the same thing you always do to fix this issue.

>>15911162
>>15911168
In other words, time and date

>>15911092
If you want another Lamunation then he is probably right.
If you want something better then it needs somewhat better writing.

>>15911146
I'd say if people spam your work with 0 votes because of rumors and not liking things you said, that's a decent enough reason to be afraid of writing.

>>15911180
What rumors? He posted publicly on twitter dude.

>>15910412
No tokuten and not even a proper ISO. I guess /jp/ got the better release this time.

>>15911180
>けっぽしスレより
>「女性絵師の絵を見ればその絵師が処女か非処女か大体わかる。分かった上で口説く」

>>15911180
Why would that make you afraid? If you do bad, do better. If you do good and people don't like it, then that's their problem.

>>15911200
>If you do good and people don't like it, then that's their problem.
It's totally your problem

>>15911209
Not really. Well, if you're trying to make money and not produce what you want to, maybe.

>>15911215
I'm glad you don't have to worry about your work putting food on your table, but most of us do.

>>15911222
Well, you just assumed we were talking from a business / sole job perspective. Not my problem.

>>15911180
That's why you shouldn't become a fucking entertainer if you write things seriously.
Being entertainer who can say dumb things for luls and giggles will make people seriously hate what you write.

That's why a lot of proper writers use pen names, don't show their face ever, don't use twitter for anything other than dry, businesslike announcements and such. It actually helps them with keeping somewhat professional image that won't damage their reputation or reputation of their works.

>>15911228
I've been following Kazuki Fumi because I really liked Akeiro but his constant tweeting about dumping a ton of money into Gacha and other such stuff is really disillusioning. I dunno about hiding their identity completely or anything but I think keeping distance from stuff like twitter may be for the best sometimes.

>>15911228
I'm dying of curiosity wanting to know what kind of person Romeo is. I wonder what he's doing in his day to day or who he hangs out with. Does he even read others eroge / light novels?

>>15911251
Probably some extremely normal guy. Or maybe not. If I remember correctly, in Kentoma post-script he mentions he went to like dozens of companies when he was looking for a job during college, got declined and ultimately decided to become a writer.

What kind of person gets declined in dozens of companies?

>>15911267
A lot of famous writers were very introverted / had no skills other than writing. So it isn't really that weird. If he's so normal though I don't see why he wouldn't interact more with people. I know I would if I lead a boring life. I have a feeling he has children or something and doesn't want them/other kids to find out and bully them in school because his father is writing porn games, so he uses an alias and doesn't give out personal info. Dunno

Where's the D&D crack?

>>15911374
Aw man, was girlcelly not cracked? Now I've got to dl 2dgf's

>>15910736

Enormous, disgusting Romeo fanboy here, I actually agree with you. He was able to nail the atmosphere of the game pretty well but it's so disconnected from everything else that it just sticks out like a sore thumb.

Myougaya and Mareni's parts are so good though, I wish I could find something else like it.

Trianthology never.

All this talk about Shinju no Yakata made me want to play it.
Anyone know where I can get it?
All torrents and downloads I can find are dead.

>>15911841
http://www.dlsite.com/pro/work/=/product_id/VJ002317.html

>>15911841
https://mega.nz/#!mJdinCLJ!cgiRejjvSdea6_d5qYTanX0SKyC59Bx0ipkfRTSnphA

>>15911874
The original company is long gone. Not sure who owns the rights now, but I don't figure there's much reason to spend money on it at this point.

>>15911841
Is it some kind of CsWare's 禁断の血族 remake?

Reading Sakigake Generation. Still on my first route but Ouka a cute and Anon needs to fuck off.

>>15912209
get off 4chan

>>15912243
no

Just saw the CGs of D&D
Anorexity much?

>>15912131
Thank you very much!
I do feel a bit guilty for not buying VNs, but I don't make enough money to support buying whatever I'm interested in.

Holy shit. In Hoshi Ori you actually have a phone and shit, and can take pictures...damn. It even has a thing to call people. Does it ever have anything to do with the story?

>>15912565
You get story-dictated LINE conversations and I think sometimes the story pauses like "please take a photo here" but otherwise no.

Do you guys second thoughts about not doing an heroine's route because she was kinda meh to you, but not that bad so you end up having an itchy feeling at some point?
Kind of "i guess i could do it", at least before starting your favorite one, usually the last, which is the no turning back point to me

>>15912635
If it's a moege, I do the heroine(s) I most like and if the game isn't funny or interesting drop it there. Plenty of fish in the sea.

>>15912565

I like pulling the phone out during inappropriate/awkward moments and taking a quick photo. Nothing happens or anything but I still find it funny.

>>15912574
Can you peeing photos? Because I'd love to.

>>15912934
I do not know if one can peeing photos.

>>15912938
I have a full set of peeing little girls and you won't get any of it, mister.

>>15911374
No need if you get the local version.

>>15911703
So do you recommend people skip it? Or are all routes worth reading? Also what order?

>>15913128
The first three are required for the true route.

New Hino (freeware, all-ages) game is released,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_29qe2AoHEYVkE4MGVWZXF5Yms/view
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kj4gmfhisxtpowx/game_hinonai.zip?dl=0

>>15913197
But what is it?

>>15910789
I guess, but even with all the cliches the weakest part of it is easily the whole library shit. It almost feels like something thrown in just so the setting doesn't feel too standard (jokes on them, people do this so often that it has become the standard); it ended up being completely out of place in an otherwise down-to-earth game, brought along a ton of unnecessary drama and they ended up executing the other areas better anyway.
Hell, it was so bad at some point I stopped caring about the heroine associated with it.

>>15913197
Cool, got link for the Kizuki one?

>>15913197
Kizuki one

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_29qe2AoHEYWUVwVkk5YXJIQm8
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6o89uj5m4bhbk2/game_tukikage.zip?dl=0

>>15913208
https://vndb.org/v19369
https://vndb.org/v19964

>>15913197
>>15913297
Thanks for sharing!

>>15913336
Those are links for the official sites.

So was Trianthology uploaded anywhere?

>>15913388
It's a doujin game and there's no DL version, the chances of it getting uploaded are pretty fucking low.

2 routes completed & in the process of the 3rd route. not story-heavy, but I like the pacing, didn't feel like it dragged too long or rushed either.

also there's no event-recycling which did happen in the prequel (cough) which is super lazy&lame&"lack of effort".

>>15912565
I actually started Hoshi Ori a while back, Iam in middle of the common route and honestly I think I'll drop it. I also want to punch the MC in the face so much.

>>15913447
Plus it's apparently pretty crap, so no one cares very much.

>>15913762
Lies!
Has anyone here even played it?

>>15913771
Not yet there are still some other things I need to finish before doing that.

>>15913754
>I actually started Hoshi Ori a while back, Iam in middle of the common route
This doesn't add up, Hoshi Ori's common route is extremely small. Also the MC is a bro and his architect ideals are fresh, no clue what your problem is.

>>15905912
I sort of understand what he's getting at as I do this with JRPGs.

>Because playing 1 hour a day is the same regardless of what you play

This is true in the sense of time spent however longer gamews usually have slower pacing. Therefore, playing one hour in a short game can make you feel like you've made a ton of progress due to the faster pacing unlike spending the same amount of time in a longer one.

>>15913879
It's important to note here, however, that Baldr Heart, while shorter than Baldr Sky, is still fairly long. So it's more like comparing a medium length game to a long game, where it doesn't make *that* much of a difference.

>>15913879
Isn't 1 hour a day an extremely low estimate? Even when I wasn't home for 12+ hours due to work I still easily had like 2-3 hours for games. If you're only just going to school there should be a lot more time for games than just 1 hour.

Whats the general opinion on Kishin Hishou Demonbane?

>>15913979
Gameplay was clunky and certain bosses were tedious as fuck, but it was serviceable. Can probably download a save and skip the battles I think.
Writing wise, I personally love Hageneya Jin's style so I found it incredibly enjoyable. Kurou and Kuzaku really play off of each other well, and the new side characters introduced were all pretty great. Another Blood as too lewd and makes me wish the game weren't all ages though.

>>15913828
Then I guess I finished the common route, Iam at the camping with the girls. The MC is too much of a normalfag I guess, also the way he always keep asking the girls names, keep following them even though some of them are clearly bothered with it is cringy. I also hate two of the heroines, the camera girl and the childhood friend. I don't know man, the game is not for me I guess. I'll just play the senpai route and maybe the stargazing girl slowly then drop it.

>>15914666
It only took me a couple hours to go through the common route, if you've going through it that slowly then it'll take you forever to get through a character route. Good luck. As for the MC, that's just called being sociable and forward. That's how people IRL make friends.

So anyone played Kanojo Step?

>>15914806
Only a little bit into it, but I'm already having a lot of fun with the characters. The fast-paced, goofy humor reminds me a lot of Fureraba which I enjoyed. Glad they brought the ridiculous over-the-top music as well. New art is okay, at first I thought it wouldn't fit the style of Smee's usual stories but there's a decent variety of facial expressions to make it work.

Looks good so far, hopefully the heroine routes will be as good.

>>15914827
I just have a problem with the eyes, they look so empty and evil.

>>15914827
>The fast-paced, goofy humor reminds me a lot of Fureraba which I enjoyed. Glad they brought the ridiculous over-the-top music as well.
That's great to hear, I'll probably play it after finishing the new Utawarerumono. The character art still makes me want to gouge my eyes out though.

>>15915027

Dunno what you have against empty eyes.

But jokes aside, the are is really a major step down, considering the art is a pretty big reason why their previous title is on my backlog. Oh well.

>>15905524
I generally liked the characters in Sky and the ideas developed in Sky/Heart a lot better than Force, since they actually take the time to explain things and give you scenes with the characters (unless you are allergic to school settings, then you probably won't like them). The gameplay is also a lot more fun in later games since they nerfed the missiles hard. so you actually have to combo your way through mobs.

What I feel like Force did well is its use of multiple routes to show you the different organizations from the inside, but holy shit I have never tried so hard to like the heroines and ended up failing.

I'm pretty sure Force has a 90 on EGS because most of the votes came from people playing it around release, and it was probably an impressive game back in 2002.

>>15915418
I didn't really mind the school in Sky since they used it in flashbacks, apart from having to repeat all of them in Dive 2 of course. I liked how it showed the characters' radical change between their teenage years and adapting to a dystopic world as adults, especially Kou himself trying to come to terms with all that shit due to his memory loss and him having less lost memories with each subsequent route. The classes also worked in developing the setting and explaining things about the AI.

However Heart made me wonder why they chose to use a school setting again. Apart from 甲華学装隊 (which they probably could have written to be some other non-school organization if they wanted) there's actually much less school stuff than Sky had, pretty much no classes or other teenager stuff that would require such a setting. I complained about this before, but I think that nearly all the heroines mostly using school uniforms made them less visually memorable, and I was constantly hoping they'd go "pro" and graduate out of the school setting at some point.

>>15915481
>However Heart made me wonder why they chose to use a school setting again
$$$

Finished Senmomo

Girl ratings: Kotone > Akari > Kanami > Eruza > Hotori

Chapter ratings: Akari > Kotone > Eruza/Kanami > Prologue > Hotori

Side girls: Shino > Koyuzu > Mutsumi

August games: Eustia >> Senmomo > Daito > other games

Someone go buy it please

>>15916788
Paypal me the cost of the game and I'll buy it and upload it. I won't even charge for my time.

So, I hear Eushully makes mobile games now.

How low have they fallen?[

>>15916854
iirc they just provided the art and maybe the story

>>15916854
Any info on that?
I played the Yuzusoft game and I liked it only a little bit.

>>15916864
http://www.eukleia.co.jp/eushully/online.html

Any archiver here that can share some tips on better compression methods? I don't even know if i should stick with winrar or use 7zip
Do you use split archives?

I'm not really in need of space, but i could save a lot of it

>>15916921
>Do you use split archives?
Unless you have a specific need for them (like you're using FAT32 for some godforsaken reason), there's no reason to. They're mostly just used for free filehosting services that restrict file size.
>I'm not really in need of space, but i could save a lot of it
If you're already compressing things, you're not going to save a significant amount of space by switching archive formats. Both RAR and 7zip are pretty damn optimized.

>>15915481
> I liked how it showed the characters' radical change between their teenage years and adapting to a dystopic world as adults
> especially Kou
Just what. Kou is most immature character in the game, staying emotions-driven crybaby till the very end in most routes.
Well, not like Nagisa "I'm so fucking edgy now" Chinatsu could be called "adapting as adult" either.
They aren't adults, they are playing adults in a way little kid thinks adult should look like.
Only grown-up there is Rain.

>>15916958
>Unless you have a specific need for them
Only scenario in where i find myself wanting split archives would be if i uploaded them somewhere and had to DL them again and my internet had hiccups or something

>If you're already compressing things
I didn't really start and i'm still pondering if i should bother at all, since i'd have to spend so much time compressing that i believe the hdd would probably fail before i filled it up

I just winrar wouldn't lie when estimating the compression, so i could at least skip the 100% ones

>>15916970
I mean yeah, if you just have a bunch of uncompressed ISOs laying around, it's probably worth compressing them. Graphics as uncompressed .bmp and audio as uncompressed .wav is painfully common in the eroge world. For new archives you should use 7-zip's LZMA2 since it's the best available in both compression ratios and speed. Probably not worth decompressing existing .rars and recompressing them as .7z, though.

>>15917013
Alright thanks, i'll see how it ends up
Just wish i didn't start so late just because i wasn't in dire need of space

Does anyone have the 緋のない所に烟は立たない apk for android?
It's supposed to be accessible here for free
http://www.high-level.jp/product/hino/index.html
but I can't access.

Good job Loveriel. Good job.

>>15917341
A new Djbril?

>>15917649
epi 4

>>15917341
Loveriel is silly.

Evenicle spoilers.
I could just be projecting, but these developments are making me laugh, because they could be interpreted as saying "bloodline-centric rules of succession are justified because they keep greedy statesmen out of the main position of power". I don't think they're actually saying that, but this occurring after all the corruption in Lancelot's election, certainly put me in the mood to laugh.

>>15917884
That also happens to be one of senmomo's amazing messages.

>>15916854
I guess their last game really didn't sell at all

>>15916913
wait it's advertised for PC, not mobile platforms

>>15917884
>>15917893
Please give monarchy a chance, guise.

Democracy IS the hotbed of corruption and greed.

>>15916921
7-zip archives seem to fuck up after relatively little damage, basically if it's damaged the whole archive becomes unreadable, at least all archiving software reports it so. Other archives allow you to extract partially damaged files until the point of corruption. 7z performs better in some cases, but I don't think it's worth it.

I use rar with 3% recovery record myself. You can damage up to 3% of the file and you still can recover it completely using the repair function. Yes, it adds some redundant data. If you have a complete backup somewhere else you can probably ignore this though.

>>15917323
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.highlevel.lvn002.hino
Go to https://androidappsapk.co/apkdownloader/ select Japan and paste the URL
Don't blame me if the site attaches some malware to the apk though

Uh oh, what should I do?

>>15918701
Usual combo of holy water, garlic, silver bullet in the head and stake through heart should suffice.

>>15917884
Japan needed another nuke.

>>15918713
That sounds especially cruel to do against a 12。year old

>>15918854
If you want to see evil backwards Japs getting nuked play Muramasa.

>>15918713
What if instead I stab her with my meat stake into her vagina repeatedly spraying holy water into her womb?

Surely if I do that repeatedly it'll reach her heart eventually, yes?

Seems like D&D is just a comedy game all the way through featuring Mareni writing. A bit disappointing, I wanted it to be a bit more serious

>>15919586
That's exactly what I was hoping it would be, so I'm happy.

>>15919586
can someone upload the OP to mega please?

>>15919639
Just download the trial and get it from there.

>>15913128

twins -> asako -> shiori -> rindou

>>15919586

how far are you

Moege, no incest route

I like how the "elves" in Evenicle are total sluts who chase after the MC's semen. It really goes to show how being an eroge impacts the game's design in general, it's pretty obvious that this whole species was designed with this being an eroge in mind which in turn allows for some nice comedy and scenarios that otherwise wouldn't be possible. For that, I'm glad there's a whole niche for eroge RPGs.

>>15920569
The Kalar in Evenicle are meant to contrast with the Kalar in the Rance setting.

>>15920603
Pre-Quest they make no sense in Rance though, literally one brown-haired one appears and says a few mysterious lines every now and again with minimal explanation and that's it.

>>15920628
They do though, They were created to become angels eventually. Also KR is a thing

>>15920628
We've known the reason the Kalar existed since KR and the reason for the existence of the Kalar is straight out stated in Evenicle.

>>15920639
>>15920647
Evenicle isn't going to spoil Rance, is it? I've only read 01. I don't imagine it's a big deal, though.

>>15920651
There's only 1 thing I'd call a spoiler but you'd have to know the spoiler in the first place to get the reference, otherwise it just shares some of the common mob and items across Alicesoft's games.

Toushin Toshi III is the game to play if you really want to know about Kalar (but its a pretty mediocre game so don't).



>>15920651
No.

Looks interesting, are there routes in Evenicle or even small heroine endings? Or is it just harem-like linear story with sex scenes for everyone?

>>15921144
1 ending but each chapter has a optional minor side ending.

>>15921150
I don't remember Ch1's side ending, but Ch2's was like a 30~ line joke ending. If they're all like that, I think even saying "minor side ending" gives the wrong idea. I wanted an H scene with Tio, too...

>>15921144
Also the heroines have mini-stories you unlock as you play, so you can choose the girls you like and get bonus scenes with them. Although since the characters also get in-game buffs from them I found I was prioritising the buffs over the girls I like.

>>15921163
Chapter 1 "side ending" is if you join in on the rape of the girl near the start of the game. Tio has a sex scene. Chapter 4 and 7 don't have side endings for obvious reasons and Tio has sex scenes

>>15921163

Tio has sex scenes, what are you talking about.

>>15921163
Tio becomes a wife in chapter 3

>>15921163
For some reason the previous posts forgot to mention it so let me just add that Tio has sex scenes. They're not particular good in comparison with the actually good girls but she does get sex scenes.

New AKB3 knight game.

>>15921340
They're very desperate aren't they

So just to confirm, Tio has sex scenes?

>>15921343
It's popular.

>>15921350
They all look exactly the same.

>>15921344
According to various reports, it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that Tio in fact does have sex scenes.

>>15921360
So how are you liking Japanese anime-style works?

I imagine it must all be quite overwhelming for a new fan like you.

>>15921245
Due to anonymity, it wasn't noticed that I am the person in Chapter 3, and thus when I said that I was referring to the lack of scenes in Chapter 2, which is odd given how she was so significant there.

>>15921350
So after all loli-school game they're trying all cowtits-fantasy with badly drawn art. They should stop resisting and go into their coffin already

>>15921343
>>15921370
Are you two joking or something?
They've already made a knight game like this.
https://vndb.org/v16851
It wasn't bad. This new one has worse art, though.

>>15921340
>Yuuki Hagure
I'm surprised he/she would still work with AKB after Juukishi, happy to see them get more work though

new lovely cation with tasuku art when....

>>15921396
Yuuki Hagure isn't involved though?

>>15921409
I don't blame him for not giving it a second glance and those girls certainly look like they've been drawn like him

>>15921298
I went through all that just now and Tio is such a boring character I'm sad that she'll interrupt scenes at home now. The cast isn't incredible but Tio has zero chemistry and zero personality. What a shame.

>>15921594
Natal is the best side character

>>15921611
So far, Ramias is my favourite. Her deadpan lewdness is the funniest part of the game for me.

>>15921634
Ramius is great and was my favourite but she is a main character and not a side

>>15921674
Honestly didn't notice you said "side"

>>15921634
>>15921674

Sometimes when I think about maybe going back to the game, I get reminded of her and immediately drop the idea. I just really dislike the "female knight" archtype. Other people seem to like it, but damn if it isn't my most hated character type. Probably the least offensive one I've seen is Laura from Trails of Cold Steel, but that's probably　because you can stay the fuck away from anything remotely romance related. (as that's usually when the female knight type gets by far the most annoying) Still was my least liked character.

Oh well. The pacing of Evenicle was kinda awful for me anyway, so I'm not that sad about it even with the gameplay being rather fun. Alice Soft has other games, and the one I'm currently playing is quite fun on its own. And mean.

>>15921740
Man, i hate that archetype too, wouldn't say it's my most hated, but it is close

>>15921740
Not sure what problem you have with "female knight" in particular, but Ramias doesn't really follow the archetype all that much. I'm just finishing up Chapter 3, which is a pretty good chunk of the game, and Ramias general is treated as a perverted "meathead" (脳筋) without much attention given to, say, fighting for justice or what have you. Most of her dialogue is being a deadpan companion boke with perversion thrown in. So, I wouldn't really consider her the archetypal female knight, nor does the game treat her as such.

As for the pacing, I don't find it bad at all. Each chapter has it's own little mini arc with a changing/growing cast of characters. By the time one setting gets boring, you're onto the next one. I usually get bored by JRPGs but the fast pacing of this makes it hard to get bored. At worst, there's long sections of dialogue in between battles, but this is part visual novel after all so it doesn't bother me too much. It leads to a more rich world and characters (as opposed to what it would be without such extended dialogue sections) so I consider it a fair trade.

Of course, I'm not saying you're wrong or that you should play it if you don't want to. I just find your criticism odd.

>>15921740
Ramius doesn't really fit that archtype which I also hate.
As soon as she gets married Aster gets to find out her really personality which is a big pervert.

I hated the childhood friend in Drapeko for instance.

>>15921773

Female Knights aren't just about "justice". Point is, they are far removed from anything but their knight-duty. (As is Ramias before you meet her) But once you meet her she becomes the typical "love-struck" girl who.. well. Female Knight archtype. To me that's just annoying. Granted it's more usual these characters are all "n-nooo the lewds, you p-pervert", but she still fulfills pretty much everything else.

As for the pacing, I mean the gameplay vs. story. It often feels like you are just running from long cutscene to long cutscene, and when you do hit a dungeon even there you essentially run into cutscenes every 5-10 steps. It basically never feels like I'm actually really playing the game, I just run from scene to scene. While in theory I'm all in for the gameplay of it, the way the included the story is just.. no.

In a way it teaches you something though: A normal rpg style gameplay is maybe not compatible with too much story. The approach of something like Izumo 4 (essentially arcade style rpg) or even Material Brave is probably just better for hybrids. Or s-rpg gameplay.
Though, to be fair, I do think Evenicle is just an especially bad case of this and some minor changes would make it completely fine already. (i.e. have cutscenes at the beginning and ending of a dungeon, leave the rest alone.. also somewhat bigger dungeons) Games like Trails of Cold Steel have tons of text as well (what was it.. 1.5million moji?), but they do actually let you play the game every now and then, while at other times you run from scene to scene.

>>15921803
Well anon, I said I don't think she fulfills the knight archetype, and in your reply here you just said "Well, female knight archetype" without further explanation. So I don't really understand your position better.

As for the gameplay vs story, I don't think of the talking bits in dungeons as "cutscenes", I think of them as natural dialogue, and thus they are fine to me. I like having characters talk and do things while exploring a dungeon as opposed to grinding through random encounters in empty corridors. In the main game, it does often feel like you're running between story sections (again, I don't really consider them cutscenes...) but as far as I'm concerned that's necessary in order to have a story like Evenicle does. It can't be conveyed through gameplay, so it's conveyed through visual novel segments. Not a problem with me, since I actually like the story. I go from having fun exploring a dungeon to having fun witnessing the story unfold. They don't mesh particularly well but the overall experience is enjoyable.

I like female knights when they are actually female knights. Not tsundere bitches in heat with exposing armor.

Saber was actually really good.

>>15921828
Too bad the H-scenes ruined her.

>>15921340
I skipped Melty Lovers because no imouto and no nude filter. I'll skip this too if it's more of the same.

>>15921986
fuck is a nude filter

>>15921986
>no imouto
That's a good thing.

>>15921986
>no nude filter
You already have H-scenes, what's the point of a nude filter. Seems like something a 11 year old would mod into a game.

>>15921995
I enjoy them. It's cute and sexy without being too pornographic. The other knight heroine game Kimikishi has one and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I skip H scenes anyway.

https://vndb.org/v13342

>>15922018
>without being too pornographic
The only way to get more pornographic is for floating dicks to fly around them

>>15922018
Just nude is kind of plain. Omokage's lingerie filter was nice, especially Hinami.

>>15913674
I'm on the common route. I never touched one of the heroines yet.

Kohaku is cute and she's very sweet. Better save this because she's the main heroine.

I kinda like Hifumi. I find both her and MC a good match. I think this is going to be a romantic one to read.

As for Nano, don't know anything about her. She's the mysterious type. I'm going for Nano's route first. Just to know what's up.

I'm hoping I can get some drama about heart breaks after choosing one of the heroines.

>>15922034
So wait, you think that all porn is the same or something?

There are levels of pornography, from light cute nudity to full on raped by a thousand faceless men. I like the light cute and sexy stuff, not the sticky smelly filthy stuff.

Anyone here played Baldr Sky with a Xbox 360 controller? Does it work well / are the default controls good with it?

>>15922401
On Character1 Giga offered SNES controller as the default control option for Baldr Heart.

Xbox 360 controller has everything a SNES one has, in pretty much the same places, Sky controls like Heart, so it should be fine.

>>15922401
For Sky and Heart I used a PS3 controller with Xinput wrapper, meaning it's recognized as a 360 controller by Windows. Plays fantastic, and the keys are easily remappable in the game options. My setup was

A attack - A (cross for DS3)
B attack - X (square for DS3)
C attack - Y (triangle for DS3)
D key / Boost - RB (R1 for DS3)
E key / Fei Action (Baldr Heart only) - LB (L1 for DS3)

Whatever you do make sure you can comfortably press A+B attack and B+C attack keys at the same time since that's how you perform Force Crashes. I originally had C attack mapped to circle (B for 360 controller) but pressing that and square at the same time was obviously pretty difficult.

Are there any VN known for having a massive amount of CGs? If so which are those?

>>15922650
Any minori game.

I was dwelling in nostalgia today and was thinking, is there any VN with a character like Lelouch (Code Geass)?

>>15922957
Hello lady.

>>15922962
How do you know I'm a girl?

>>15922280
Nudity is in the middle to end of the pornography scale.

Playing Musume Shimai again. I'm going to guess, this is about the tenth time?

>>15922957
Resign

Is he right?

https://vndb.org/v4055

Does anyone here happen to have this? The only torrent I could find is dead.

>>15924607
The game sucks monkeys' cooks.

>>15924607
I liked it a lot, but there are better moege out there.

>>15924607
>gags are good
Nope, Yuzusoft can't do comedy for more than 1 hour before getting boring as hell.

>>15922401
I have both a 360 controller and a DS2, but desu I find it more comfortable to play Baldr games with keyboard since I can execute FC more easily.

Is 真剣で私に恋しなさい!! 番外編 -SPARK- the best chapter in the Majikoi series to date?

>>15925183
No.

>>15925183
how is that shit still going on

>>15924290

>Resign

Good to know I'm not the only one playing that. Do you like it?

anyone here enjoy SoL VN, stuff like Smee?

>>15925429
Depends on the author, some are funny or else keep good pacing with nice heroine interaction, some are just boring.

>>15925429
Depends on the writer, they can easily become very boring reads.

>>15925429
I played a couple, they're fine for sitting back and relaxing when you're not looking for anything fancy

>looseboy, Romeo and Jackson will never write another good eroge

>>15925482
>another

>>15925429
More like I dont enjoy anything else other than them and moeges / charages.

>>15925540
Sad life.

>>15925249
Weren't they supposed to release a remake of it though?
http://www.sherbetsoft.com/products/r2/

>>15925541
I was typing up a response to him about how there's a lot of overlap between moege and plotge when it comes to having enjoyable character interaction and even romance, but it hit me midway through typing. Visual novels may be novels, but the people playing just for the romance and sex... aren't here for the reading. They're there for the romance and sex! It's so obvious, but I just now understood. Reading is an obstacle they have to surpass. The plot of plotge, although it goes hand in hand with moe quite often, is いらない from the very beginning. Even if it's good, it's いらない.

The VN community is mixed with readers and non readers. The readers who are here to read, and the average dudes who are here to simulate relationships and get a fap. You're a reader. He's an average dude. Your scorn is misplaced, for he is not of your ilk... may as well be scorning a baseball player for not being good at Quake.

>>15925429
I'm reading Kanojo step and I'm enjoying it,

>>15925570
I'm not sure if this is a pasta with funny lines like "for he is not of your ilk", but yeah I agree. VN readers are pretty much in two groups, people who treat them like literature and who are looking for an unique experience, and people who never had human contact and use them as an outlet for virtual relationships. The sad thing is that group 2 is the majority and what companies base their products on.

>>15925541
>>15925570
I meant it as eroge, of course I have other hobies as well. I just dont like the plotges, chuuni stuff or whatever they're called, playing relaxed stuff with cute heroines are more enjoyable for me.

>>15925541
How do you know? Is everyone who doesn't share your interests sad?

>>15925592
>like literature and who are looking for an unique experience

lol sure mate, probably you are one of those kinds who keep saying how ero is holding back the visual novels etc too. I'm not really sure what the fuck you are complaining, those games have 4-5 fuckable girls in them for a reason you know, even in the "plotges". The plot is just the flavor of it, in the end almost all of them are the same thing at their root.

The industry is based on that, you may eating it just for the flavor's taste, but in the end its still the same meal. Look at the island's sales for example, they tried to sell seasoning without the meal itself, and it didnt even sell 1/20 of the Senren Banka.

Yeah it might be "sad" from your perspective, but this is what the eroge community / industry are.

>>15925682
I don't really see what point you're driving... You just said that a lot of people eat shit and the industry caters to the people eating shit since shit sells the best. What's your point?

>>15925682
>but this is what the eroge community / industry are.
That's what I said? Learn to read, moebuta. Oh wait, you can't read anything that isn't unrealistic girls making a virgin like you feel wanted.

>>15925429
Totally, althought only if there are heroines i like

>>15925570
you would've probably realised this a lot sooner if you thought about how there are video-related entertainment media out there that sell well even if their plot progression isn't the most interesting or engaging

>>15925687
I never refered them as "shit", please dont twist my words. You are basically complaining how the curries are shit and how everyone should eat some other food in a curry shop, which is just meaningless.

>>15925691
Yeah that's what you have said, with insulting others to show how your tastes are better than those majority and how those should follow your tastes instead of their "shitty" tastes.

This dumb discussion of plotge vs moege is the same shit i always saw going on on /a/ when i still bothered to watch anime

>>15925704
There isn't really any taste involved. It's people who read with their dick to fulfill their primitive instincts, and people who evolved past that and read to stimulate their imagination. It's like comparing monkeys to humans really.

>>15925592
The issue with this idea is the implication that everyone has to be either one or the other, that people who appreciate fine, unique literature are also well-seasoned, socially active healthy individuals, while those who crave sex and cute romantic relationships are illiterate losers. When it's obvious how much of an overlap there is between the two.

>>15925708
>stimulate their imagination with high school girls who are saving the world with thousands swords and couple english words

Sure, definitely evolved.

>>15925697
What I "realized" there is the fact the VN community is a heterogeneous mixture of readers and non-readers. In simpler not entirely equivalent words, that some people enjoy the process of reading and others don't. I wasn't trying to say there intelligent people who appreciate plots and dumb people who don't (like >>15925708 seems to be), rather that the process of reading itself, of reading stories, is something that not visual novel *readers* enjoy. There are people *reading* despite not liking it, as a means to an end. I don't think movies has a comparable phenomenon. The act of watching movies is basically just looking, it doesn't have a verb on it's own, and thus I don't think there are people watching movies who like looking and those who don't like looking.

>>15925711
people don't really think of other people by placing them on spectra of traits a lot of the time, unfortunately
It's all about time conservation. Which is also why we categorise, label, and generally group people and various things into stereotypes

>>15925711
Well in this specific case...
>More like I dont enjoy anything else other than ... moeges / charages.

>>15925704
Thing is, VNs aren't a "curry shop" or in other words a romance simulator with porno. VNs have all the potential of literature. So it's like going into a restaurant and seeing everyone order ham sandwiches and shaking your head that no one's getting steak.

>>15925711
This discussion started by someone saying they only like cute girl simulators. I honestly find those kind of people disgusting and look down upon them, because they're basically just beasts who resigned themselves to being dictated by their primitive instincts. I don't mind if someone plays a fap game here and there since suppressing sexual desire is not realistic, but ONLY doing so? Those people are no different from monkeys and the world would be in a better state if they were exterminated (it's frightening that those monkeys are allowed to vote evidently).

>>15925682
>Island

That was just Frontwing being weird. I dunno why they released it only on PC with a not voiced protagonist. You don't do that for this kind of game. If you don't produce your typical eroge, you also need to sell it like that and not to try and sell it as if it'd be one. As it is it was just a really weird half-baked release. They splurged on some part of the voice acting, but didn't go the whole way, same for the console release, which felt like an after-thought.

>>15925715
I meant the fact that it's comparable, in that some people enjoy soap operas over shows with interesting themes and characters, much like how some readers enjoy senseless moege with no character development over more plot-centric games, for example

>>15925736
the problem is that people don't really try to develop themselves personally, really. If you took a look around the world now, books are dying out, replaced by videos (which don't always explain a topic in-depth because of how there is a set time frame, and thus less time for the finer details).
People are lazy and want instant gratification more than ever now. It's an inevitable side-effect of having the internet currently being the most efficient method of information transfer.