/jp/ - Otaku Culture

https://youtu.be/UOuNydU6b3A

I liked KoiSora and NanKoi OPs more but this is quite nice too. It's Duca after all.

>>15880430
is there something I can follow so I can see when a new eroge OP is uploaded?

>>15880449
Erogetrailers RSS.

>>15880455
cool didn't know about that site

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyPvF8j9oew

This looks pretty neat, especially the CGs at 1:06 and 1:08. It's the writers first game so a big ? mark but the concept seems unique enough

>>15880503
Looks like something worth keeping an eye on. With as much emphasis as he's getting in the OP, hopefully the protag will have an interesting personality.

I like these two interacting, verbal beatdowns are fun.

>>15880503
Apparently Andou Kotatsu (Writer of the Lovesick puppies, WLO etc) is the one who deciding the plot, planning etc so probably the new writer will write it under his observation, which is nice imo since I like his games. Also it should be nice for the new writer as well, starting with some experienced's help is definitely better than being alone.

>>15880548
Those uniforms look like they came straight out of Yuru Yuri.

Finished Hotori route.

Holy shit why was it so short? Wasn't expecting the routes to be eustia style in this game.

Hopefully the other ones are at least a bit longer.

>>15880872
>Hopefully the other ones are at least a bit longer.
Nope, it's eustia style the whole way, short side routes and everything builds up to the main heroine.

>>15879620
>he also kills all 100 of the republic soldiers singlehandedly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qacgb2b8LVU

>>15880409

how's this compared to Eustia?

>>15880963
Cuter.

Can someone who got Re:LieF～親愛なるあなたへ～'s trial please upload it?

i hope senmomo flops and august will return to making moege or plotge and not trying to mix them

>>15880301
>I find it confusing that the august writers are having Hotori and Akari be absolutely dominated by her with no real counter argument except to insult her or threaten violence.
How do you know they're not doing this intentionally?

>>15881343
The game plays it completely straight though
>us proud imperials can't carry katanas but evil republicans can carry guns they can shoot at will
>their soldiers rape and kill as muchas they want and we can't do anything, their superiors won't do anything either
>during the festival they usually kill hundreds of our people, including children, and no one bats an eye
>oh imperials can't understand our wonderful loyalty and pride in the battlefield

It's WAY too japanese in that regard, it basically plays on their huge persecution complex where they are pure and noble and the republic (USA) is evil and that's it.

>>15881359
ironic in that it sounds like what they did to chinks

>>15881368
The japanese are victims you know, poor, poor victims of western imperialism, you can forgive a genocide or two.

What's the funniest VN you've read? Like, not the moe moe girls making lewd panty jokes funny, but actually comedy-funny.

>>15881427
daitoshokan

>>15881427
I found oretsuba really funny, sorechiru too until the routes go on for a bit.

>>15881427
Rakuen is the funniest VN I've read and may be the funniest piece of media in general I've ever gone through.

>>15881427
Muramasa

>>15881427
Akatsuki no Goei

>>15881551
If anything the whole game is one big joke.

>>15881427
oretsuba

>>15881497
This. I don't know if it's just the change of pace from the grimdark plot, but Muramasa's jokes got me laughing a lot more often than many other VNs.

>>15881427
Tsuyokiss, Love of Ren'ai Koutei of love.

Why is she so perfect?

>>15882047
Manipulative.
Intelligent.
Own agenda.
Distracting shots.

I'm finding her to be the best written heroine in it.

>>15882047
Her face looks familiar.

>>15882160
Unlike almost every other girl, her face wasn't by Bekkankou.

question for anyone who has finished first route of 千の刃濤、桃花染の皇姫, wonder if its safe the moment Akari gets kidnapped. Please...

How long is Senmomo?

By the way, Apparently the waffle's new game (巨乳ファンタジー外伝2 after) which uses PlayDRM got cracked again. Dunno how did they cracked since its not publicly released yet but thought some people would be interested since they were talking about it at some older threads.

>>15882464
I'll never understand the "gotta protect our eroges from pirates" thing anyway. Lets say that you made an uncrackable eroge; First of all you will lose some customers because second hand sales are pretty important for eroges and there are plenty of people who likes to sell their first-hand games if they didn't like them / or think it as "well I can sell it after I have played so it'd cost like xxxx yen to me" before buying it. If you cut that off, they'll either buy some other games or will wait reviews (means you'll have to make a great game).

Also "eroge sales" are not their all incomes, you'll lose plenty sales from visual art books, anthology mangas or some other goods since the second hand buyers will be very angry and will not support you anymore. In the end after all those efforts and works you will get some new sales which "might" balance things. And of course this is all IF they can make an uncrackable game, if they fail they'll just waste their money.

I dont know, it just seems pretty meaningless to me. If you want to get more profit; make some better games or some better advertisements, try to sell more anthology mangas or hell release an english version like frontwing at steam or something. All of those opinions seems like a better choice than an endless "this time they will not be able to crack it!" fight.

>>15882540
There's a far more elegant defense of piracy (aka unauthorized copying of copyrighted material)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI
Pirating games is like sharing books, lending movies, etc etc. It's something that happens everywhere and it only benefits the content creator. DRM is like trying to stop people from lending a friend a book - ridiculous.

>>15882540
Japanese are pretty much the worst rulecucks I've ever seen on the Internet, if it's law it's absolute, logic doesn't work with them, don't bother.

That green frame is pretty distracting.

>>15882851
What green frame?

Caim: Shit, she found out about us. We've got to kill her to keep us all safe.
Soujin: Okay, here's who we are, here's my name, and please don't tell the republic about us OK? I'm trusting you! Thanks.

>>15881497
This

>>15882851
What game is this?

>>15883006
Re:LieF trial.

>>15883020
Is the writing any good? The art looks pretty bad.

>>15883067
I haven't the whole trial yet, right now it's a bit slow but seems like it could be good.

Is there a point playing Kyonyuu Fantasy if one skips most of the H-scenes?

>>15883385
Not really given that it IS a nukige so even with the fantasy stuff going on in the background there's still an undue focus on sex. For example, there's a demon attacking a town in KF1? Yeah, it's a succubus. There's scheming going on in the village? Yeah, it's because the dude's a flat lover and his wife has huge tits so he wants her out. And so on and so on. The focus on sex will make it obnoxious to read for one not interested in H-scenes.

>>15883224
All of heroines seems pretty cool actually. Does it have some dark elements in it like a raped girl or something? Somehow I get that kind of feeling, maybe because of the art or character descriptions.

What does 光秋 mean? That stuff gets added to the name of sword manufacturer in Kaigen seito.
Like 一錬光秋
一輪光秋.
Is this just some naming tradition in this family of sword makers?

>>15883592
Aw, forget it, it's the part of the name... That strange naming order.

>>15883609
It's probably a name of sword and then a family name of the creator. That's why it's in strange order.
First name after last is probably only applicable to people.

>>15883632
Nah, what I found in wikipedia:
"本名を藤原一輪光秋という刀鍛冶師で、赤音・伊烏とも旧知の女性。あくまで傍観者に徹しており、赤音と義阿の戦いを静かに見守っている。"
Wtf? 2 family names?
Because Ichirin is definetely a first name. JAST left Ichirin in Hanachirasu and didn't bother with the others.

Used to play it the last year in w7, but now with w10 this is happening. It gets worse every second and the animation fixes only after moving to the next one, but then it starts to look like that again.

I'm sure everything is up to date, and since I'm not a native speaker I don't even know how to google for this.
Anyone knows how to fix it without having to get a different OS?

>>15883725
Use the 吉里吉里 version of the exe and try setting the appropriate amount on CPU threads in the options. If it still doesn't work, try fiddling with other options. It works fine for me on W10.

>>15883587
With that kind of story I expect every girl to have some kind of sad background. The game starts with one guy scolding one of the girls and telling her to not come back to work.
There's also a static effect for a second sometimes for mysterious spookiness.

>>15882464
Mikocon cracked it so they won't release the crack
Still, they got lucky because they say if the protection is well applied they are unable to crack it so expect some games not to get cracked

I swear Elza is basically carrying every single interesting art of the game on her own so far, not-samurais are so annoying half of the time.

>>15884136

Wonder how Japan thinks about it. This could be one of those stories, where Japan feels much differently about it than western people would, at least from what I'm reading here. (I personally never even read anything from August, so I'd probably start with Eustia if I wanted something by them)

Reviews seem pretty lukewarm
>朱璃ルート以外の個別ルートは30分程度で終わる
lol

>>15884226
Just like eustia, yeah.
The problem is that it's also more boring.

Anyone know any good dark corruption nukige that involves the girl/s becoming genuinely evil/cruel and enjoying it?

I don't mean like the pile of generic mahou shoujo shit where they get some demon wings photoshopped on for the final scene or two in some bad end, but games with darker atmospheres where they become genuinely evil.

All I really know of that fits the bill would be some of Touchy and Black Cyc's games.

>>15884226
I'm still pretty early into it, but it seems to me that the main complaint is that they tried to do the whole balance between real deal serious business and cutesy lightheartedness thing but ultimately failed.

The fact that the game is structured like Eustia means that they have a specific story they want to tell and that every heroine besides Akari is basically a sub-heroine. They also set up a gloomy setting involving a country getting invaded and its people being treated like trash, and of course it's up to a ragtag band of rebels to man up and defeat the bad guys.

On the other hand, they also tried to balance it out with more lighthearted moments. So far so good, but with the route structure they are using, people who like the other heroines get the very short end of the stick. Bonus points for people who end up not liking Akari, because this is entirely her story.

It's also just plain difficult to mix the two sides of the spectrum up, in August's case mixing Eustia's and Daitoshokan's philosophies. You can't easily pretend to be a moege when you're supposed to live under the iron fist of Totally Evil Empire Dudes™, and you can't easily pretend to be in a shitfest of a situation when you're cracking jokes and living your average student lives. Though, honestly, the scale seems to be heavily tilted towards the Eustia side of things. I remember August saying that they wanted a balance of both, unless I'm misremembering or misunderstood something.

Maybe the writers bit off more than they could chew? I don't know. I'm not even far in enough to be able to give a proper analysis anyway, so I don't know what I'm even bumbling about.

>>15882851
Can you please upload this trial to mega?

What's coming out this month besides Senmomo? Wasn't interested in the setting.

>>15884511
D&D

Remembered that there are three extra scenarios you can (freely) download for Material Brave. Turns out they are pretty amazing, as in funny. They basically take a few scenes of the game and change them for a more comedic approach. The first one even makes the whole game's story feel a bit different if you look at it from the angle you get there.
Seriously, the whole game should've been like these extras. A lot the game did just doesn't really work in a serious setting, while apparently at least whoever wrote these extras can write pretty good comedy/parody. (having pretty good voice actors also helps them) Well, dunno if it was even the same author(s) writing these extras. You never know with these kinds of things.

>>15884511
Harmonia

>>15884511
How can you not be interested in Senmomo's setting? If you're not interested in its setting, what kind of games do you even read?

>>15885063
Senmomo's setting is only interesting on paper, the game sucks at developing the conflict.

>>15885075
Oh, did you play the game and then get bored? I can understand that a lot better. I was imagining someone looking at Senmomo's setting before playing and being like "nahhh, not too interesting".

>>15885081
Wasn't the guy you were quoting, but not being interested in the incredibly black and white setting makes sense.
Also reeks of japan being oh so oppressed just from reading about it.

>>15885081
It does look pretty boring, I'm only interested in it because it's by August.

>>15885088
The important context here is that we're talking about VNs here. So even with a setting that likely will be black and white, it's better than 97% of VNs which take place in a school with an even more boring setting. Hence, "what kind of games do you even play?".

>>15885099
Not him but I'd take an inoffensive by-the-numbers school setting over a fantasy setting with basically all of the elements I dislike.

>>15885283
We're cut from different cloths then my friend. At this point, anything non-school gets an automatic +1 from me no matter what it is.

>>15883979
They are releasing their cracks when someone else uploads the game, Also no company would use playdrm at their full priced games so I really dont think we'll get any uncrackable full priced game at anytime soon. Yeah there might be some low priced nukiges which goes without a crack, but its not like anyone cares about them anyway.

>>15885063
The setting sounds like the worst Japan Stronk trash

>>15883885
So an iyashi-kei game? It'd be really great, hope the game doesn't go full dark drama thing instead of it.

>>15885599
Ah but almost every VAs of the heroines sounded pretty bad at their sample voices, that might become a huge minus point.

>>15885472
>They are releasing their cracks when someone else uploads the game

Nope, having an exclusive crack gives them power, for example 依存症ノ姉 and 風紀委員 白紗 are uncracked on torrent sites but they have those cracked and unreleased

>Also no company would use playdrm at their full priced games

Key did it with with Rewrite+ but the physical release didn't have it (DL edition of Lamunation also had it): https://twitter.com/uitachibana/status/763557578034909185
I think it's going to be on DL editions at least and there's a rumor new Moonstone eroge is going to have it too: https://twitter.com/uitachibana/status/776795985238368256
Besides, this DRM is not uncrackable but you need the serial to even start on it and mikocon are the only ones who both buy and crack games and don't always succeed

>>15885847
Of course its okay to use PlayDRM at the DL editions, or actually I think its pretty smart to use it since there's no way you can sell your DL edition to someone else and you'll definitely need internet to get DL version anyway, writing a couple more numbers shouldn't be a problem for anyone.

But as I said at >>15882540, having Playdrm is just an idiotic act for the full priced hard copy games, also as you have said its not uncrackable so it makes it even retarded. What will you say to your fans when it got cracked, "hey guys you dont have to be angry now! just buy it from the second hand stores and use the mikocon's crack!" or something? I could still understand if it was denuvo or something, but cutting off all the second hand sales and your potential customers with using an already cracked many times DRM is pure madness imo. Hell Moonstone is not even doing that good.

Wew, August going for the deep insights

Man these loli vampires get my dick really hard.

>>15886011
>also as you have said its not uncrackable so it makes it even retarded
While there is an issue with reselling games (I think during the Akabei fiasco there was an option of just buying a card with a new serial when buying an used copy so they came up with a compromise I guess) I think this DRM is a smart move considering uploaders don't usually crack games and don't share serials which makes their uploads useless when using this DRM. Mikocon are quite happy because they can have these games for themselves and hoard them for however long they please (their official reason for doing that is to protect the devs from piracy but I think they just try real hard to play the good guys when it's obvious there's money involved).

Denuvo would mandate using an online platform like Steam and it's not uncrackable either.

>>15886034
Not mine, art is too bad.

>>15886179
this to be honest thought I might be gay but guess it wasn't just me

>>15886206
It's the unnaturally wide hips and blond probably having some kind of problem in the neck/shoulders.

>>15886222
I believe it's scoliosis

Anyone have the harukuru OST?

Finished Re:LieF's trial.
Overall I liked it, I'll at least read a route when it's out.
Nearly the whole trial is from Hinako's perspective.　I liked how that was used to develop her, it would be nice if the other heroines get something similar.
There even was a choice in her part, I wonder if it'll change anything later.

>>15885599
>>15885613
There's already a lot of foreshadowing and mysteries being set up. The mood is pretty comfy in the trial though.
I hope it stays that way, but I wouldn't be surprised if it goes full dark drama later.
All VAs sounded off the whole time but after a while I got used to it.

>>15884486
My upload speed is really bad, have you tried the mirror downloads?
http://suezou.dyndns.org/rask.html
http://mirror.fuzzy2.net/egg3/modules/mymirrors/viewcat.php?op=&cid=3146

>>15886281
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJhlf6Sm2y4
This looks pretty cool, finally something besides the meme games to play this year.

>>15884486
Not that anon but here you go.
https://mega.nz/#!vUFlgYaD!eaYuYehF8K8XvRfCzfDgztvIO6_v9P5W49nzVFDw8dA

I've been somewhat following the game since it was announced so I'm happy it's gotten a warm reception. I barely have time for eroge lately anymore but I'll have to make some for this one. I'm happy the initial heroine is a 20 year old, too.

>>15887168
>the initial heroine is a 20 year old
Not him but you got me interested, thanks.

>>15886281
>>15882851
>>15886281
Thanks for mentioning this, it sounds like something to look forward to. I quite like the artstyle, too.

Anyone else notice the voice line was completely different from the text here?

>>15887217
The shading style is fine, but the line art in most of the sample CGs is fucked up in some way or another.

>>15887246
It does seem that way judging by >>15883067, but personally I go more for style than substance. Can't really remember the last thing I read that didn't have at least a couple wonky CGs. Maybe if they stopped trying to cram every part of a girl into a shot where it shouldn't even be anatomically possible this would happen less.

>>15886179
I dont get this

What type of art do you guys like?

Most art here gets criticized.

>>15887258
It's probably just one autist complaining about the art in most games. That said, the art in that game looks pretty terrible.

>>15887263
Yeah it is though the cg is where its at its not horrendous

>>15887263
To be fair, the majority of eroge art is pretty bad, though I don't care too much as long as it's serviceable.

>>15882851
Any /fa/ here?
What is this hairstyle called?

>>15887279
黒髪ロング

>>15887288
particularly pic related

>>15887340
I'd call it the trilobite

あきゆめくるる
releases december

>>15887389
Hypest release of 2015 so far, easily

>>15887389
Kiss will be best girl, calling it now.

oh man oh jeez oh boy those character bios, I'm excited

>>15884257
Nothing? Surely there are some people here who play shit other than moege right...

>>15887412
why would anyone play a non-moege?

>>15887412
I'm interested in that stuff too, but I have no recommendations to offer. I was hoping someone else would...

>>15887401
I'm not sure about that, Yuzuki looks pretty great.
I predict Yuzuki > Kiss > Ayumi > Saori

>>15887446

Maybe they have taste?

>>15887492
>taste
Subjective, not an argument

>>15887463
I'm rarely a fan of airhead types but her description sure as hell doesn't match the stereotype. Maybe I'll come round.

The story summary said 6 people, so I'm guessing the 5th person is the obligatory bro character? Who we all know will be the real best girl, naturally.

>>15887495

Moege is objectively terrible though.

>>15887497
In Natsukuru Shun was into old women so didn't go after the lolis, so does that mean that this time the bro character will be a lolicon?

>>15887546
Shun was great, realizing that his thing for big tits made him the weirdo equivalent of a pedophile for their species was amusing.

I doubt it though, Kiss is pretty loli-ish. He'll probably have a thing for the teacher, who'll turn out to be both the person orchestrating the whole event and also an ascended energy being/sentient pandimensional AI formed from a dying pulsar from the year 5 billion, thus making sure the bro character is forever girl-less.

>>15887574
I hope not, I'll be very mad if the MC doesn't form a relationship with the pandimensional god-like being of pure thought, so we can get a sex scene. They're my fetish.

>>15887512
An entire genre isn't "objectively" anything.

>>15887650

Please, some things are just inherently bad, like isekai tensei stories, or battle harems, or moege.

>>15887653
>like isekai tensei stories,
Not *quite* tensei but Sukasuka pretty much blows that theory out of the water.
Bakemonogatari shows harems with battles can be high quality.
Daitoshokan shows moege can be quality.

>>15887655
>harems with battles
But it's not a battle harem, it focuses exclusively on interpersonal issues and the battles exist for flavor.

>>15887644
That sex? scene with the 4D AI in Harukuru was glorious.

>>15887655
Sukasuka?

>>15887655
>Sukasuka
Garbage.
>Bakemonogatari
Garbage.
>Daitoshokan
Garbage.

>>15887653
>battle harems
So Baldr is shit?

>>15887668
If you smell shit every where you go, check under your shoe.
>>15887661
Excuse the URL
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B5%82%E6%9C%AB%E3%81%AA%E3%81%AB%E3%81%97%E3%81%A6%E3%81%BE%E3%81%99%E3%81%8B%3F_%E5%BF%99%E3%81%97%E3%81%84%E3%81%A7%E3%81%99%E3%81%8B%3F_%E6%95%91%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%82%82%E3%82%89%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%81%84%E3%81%A7%E3%81%99%E3%81%8B%3F
>>15887659
So what? Still a battle harem.

>>15887685
>Still a battle harem.
So something with hardly any battles is a battle harem?
You have seasonal adaptations of actual battle harems and they can't be any more different from the bakemonogatari series.

>>15887689
What makes Bakemono different is what makes it good, but it's still cut from the same cloth.

>>15887685

>every where you go

No only when you open your mouth.

Late to the party as always but I'm really liking this one, it's been a while since I got this sucked in to a story. Just finished the Sapphire chapter and the ending completely blindsided me, no idea where things will go from here.

Was it well-received when it came out? I picked it up since their previous work 運命予報 hit all the right notes for me, glad to see the writer is still in good form. I hope they did well in sales, I really like the writer and would love to read more of his stuff. Strikes a good balance between realistic and ~anime~ when it comes to characters and drama, and the pretentious lit-fag in me eats up the stuff about the nature of stories and love.

I guess if I have to complain about something it's that Kisaki is too perfect, there's literally no reason for the MC to even want to be with anyone else assuming of course that she comes back. Other girls are cute but they just don't have a chance.

I need some help. I'm looking for some VN/eroge with a somewhat different approach of an imouto route.

Basically I want an actual brother-sister like relationship at the start. None of them should be in love with the other. They should probably argue or mock each other at some point, not get all "p-p-paaaaanties" (in fact, who'd wanna see their sister's panties..) and so on. Also the sister should not mind the protagonist hanging out with girls or even better: Try to push him into a relationship. You know, a brother-sister relationship on good terms.
Of course at some point that needs to change, and ideally the girl should at least show some kind of personal conflict in that regard (it's not exactly normal to just start having romantic feelings for your brother) and trying some things to get rid of these feelings. But well, it's probably hard enough to find something that fulfills the first criteria already, so yeah.


Most imouto stuff I know is really just the same "is a brocon" stuff over and over again. Feels like it's mostly an excuse to have a girl living with the protag under one roof. I.. don't want that. In fact I'm pretty damn sick of it. But yesterday I stumbled about something that lead to this post here, though it's an rpg so I doubt there's much in form of routes or whatever. (Izumo 4) And there's always the chance she'd still end up being your typical "imouto" anyway who just hid her feelings...

>>15888091
Good luck. There's almost never anything like that level of effort put toward writing incest routes in eroge. If you do manage to find something, be sure to post about it here because I know I and a few others here would love to know about it.

But just for a nonstandard imouto route in general (and a cool game all around), I recommend https://vndb.org/v11569

>>15888091
妹のおかげでモテすぎてヤバい?

It's out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMk7qyJW3EU

>>15887672
it is

The chapters after Elsa route are pretty cool.
Revived my interest in the game quite a bit.

>>15888091
夏ノ雨 is what you're looking for if you don't mind the non blood related part.

>>15888091
Is this really uncommon? If it has to be attached to a route, then maybe, but this happens all the time to imouto side characters. The first criterion is just the go-to formula for mischievous siblings in general. Though you'd probably have more luck looking OUTSIDE of VN/eroge.

Photokano had some of that; bantering, the sister keeping tab of your relationships with the other girls, panties (this stuff isn't as far-fetched or unrealistic as you make it sound) and the protagonist-side conflict. The only problem is later on it becomes NBR.

>>15887492
If they did they would play neither moege nor what's described in >>15884257

>>15888323
What about Elsa route? Is it bad? I like Elsa quite a bit, so if her route a shit I'll be disappointed. I know that side-routes are short, but hope dies last.

>>15888323
They are better, but I found the game pretty disappointing overall, it's decent/good, but the writing overall is kinda messy.
Ending is great though, but that's about it.

>>15888396
Elsa 'shares' her chapter with literally who Kanami who is a non-entity in it for the most part, her machinations and planning are fun and she's better written than most characters in the game by virtue of being morally questionable.

>>15888140

Yeah, I don't even need some heavy incest "society shuns you~" drama or anything, but it's still hard to find I feel. I'll keep your suggestion in mind.

>>15888185

Thanks for the idea. Based on a summary this may be a bit borderline, but I actually had this on on my backlog for other reasons already anyway.

>>15888328
Funny how vndb a big tag "Blood-related Sister Heroine". Thanks for the idea.

>>15888335
I do want a route in the end though. (or the story turn that way I suppose) Think of a typical sister support character who however changes at some point I suppose.
So yeah, looking outside of VN/eroge seems even harder there. Though admittedly I was never really into Manga or LN, so I can't be sure.

Don't have the time to play much VNs but I'm doing Senmomo now. I'm not really taking it seriously, just enjoying the ride.

>>15888216
It'd been too long. I want to read another boring SoL.

>>15880503
Has anyone here played the trial for this?

>>15888140
>If you do manage to find something, be sure to post about it here because I know I and a few others here would love to know about it.

Playing Izumo 4 a bit more makes it seem the little sister kinda works that way, although this scene here happens pretty early. Though again, it's an rpg with the focus on something else.. most likely. She isn't actually blood-related, but they live like 10 years together already, for what that's worth.
That said it's really more about shrines, gods and whatever.

>>15887721
It got a high ranking on 2ch's "eroge of the year" chart. Not sure about sales though.

>>15889128
post it. are they significantly different from egs rankings?

>>15889132
I've never compared them to be quite honest.

How can I tell when something has good prose? Does it just mean enjoyable? I could never tell bad writing and good writing apart.

>>15889706
Read more, basically. Do you not know the difference between good and bad prose in English either? Have you read Joyce or Nabokov?

>>15889712
I can't tell the difference in english either I believe. At least, when I finish reading a book I've never thought "that was some good prose right there".

>>15889706
Good writing in VNs mostly means serviceable writing. A style which isn't a drag to read.

>>15889706
Not sure if bait or not but it's like the difference between good music and bad music. I guess if you don't read much it's not as easily identifiable.

Good writing makes you perk up a little and go 'ooh, that's nice'. Maybe it switches around typical word order in a way that emphasizes a certain word in the sentence that adds an extra bit of meaning. Maybe it's using slightly odd word choice to fuck around with connotations rather than the strict dictionary definition. Maybe it's dropping subjects or persons or things to make you wonder whether they're not talking about something else entirely.

Iunno how to describe it well other than you know it when you see it. It feels good to read, almost ticklish. Like there's something bigger and more important hiding behind everything that you can only just catch glimpses of.

that was probably more pretentious than it needed to be but I'm sure most people have a *thing* that they like, like food or alcohol or movies or photography or crocheting or whatever where they can tell what's good and what isn't, even if they don't have the right words to describe it.

'Read more' is really the only honest answer to this, I guess.

>>15889712
You don't even need to read more. Just read some fanfiction and then read some popular novels:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11928219/1/Sakura-s-new-adventure

>>15889718
"Good" prose is just another word for enjoyable prose. One that evokes distinct images in your head or just makes you re-read the same sentence 5 times over because of how nice it sounded. There's also something called workman like prose, which is prose that "just gets the job done", as in no beautiful pictures, just the minimum information required. And then there's bad prose which... does neither, sounds really dumb and it feels like the author doesn't tell you anything at all.

Picture related, one of the most famous opening lines in the literary world.

>>15889739
>You can always count on a murderer for a fancy prose style
heh
maybe not the best example you could've chosen

>>15889718

It's not necessarily about being enjoyable. Some examples:

Bad writing is usually all haphazardly. Good writing offers "structure". (that structure doesn't need to be obvious for the reader at all times mind you)
Likewise bad writing usually has lot's of nonsense in it you could just cut out without losing anything. Good writing is more "on point". (which doesn't mean there aren't slice of life scenes or anything. It just means they have maybe more of a purpose, goal or whatever)

There are also other things, but talking about everything would be too much. Pretty much think of writing as the technical aspect. A work doesn't need great writing to be enjoyable, and great writing alone doesn't make a work enjoyable either. Taste and such are still a thing. Still, it helps, a lot.

>>15889706
That's very subjective. You'll have to take a look at what novels are considered good by the public and read them. Doesn't mean you cannot have some basic guidelines on how to write good prose.

Correct grammar and understandable descriptions are the basics.
The narration should make sense and lead somewhere. Also it shouldn't be cringeworthy.

>>15889706
>How can I tell when something has good prose?

Step 1: Don't listen to moogy and his merry circle of friends who don't read any western books or give heavily biased reveiews

>>15889780
as an add-on to this, specifically about the
>which doesn't mean there aren't slice of life scenes or anything. It just means they have maybe more of a purpose, goal or whatever
point, I'm reading 紙の上の魔法使い and would like to commend it for the fact that every scene (so far) has a purpose behind it, shows a certain aspect of a character or how they act around others or their relationship with another character or some tidbit of history that expands on their character in a meaningful way. Which is good seeing as how one of the major plot points is about how 'no scene is meaningless in a good book'.

Other side of the spectrum in terms of eroge writing I guess would be food descriptions/cooking monologues, which almost invariably add nothing beyond word count.

though that's more plotting than prose, I suppose.

>>15889825
The worst writing I constantly encounter in eroge is when the MC narrates what was already said in the actual narration. Like
>The girl ran out of the room
>"Damn, she ran out of the room..."
This happens far too often and kills my enthusiasm for reading the story.

>>15889824
Just because moogy likes Romeo and Masada doesn't mean they don't have good prose.

>>15889845
I do that in real life, then again, I tend to speak alone a lot.

>>15889855
The thing is that in a narrative, everything presented is chosen by the writer. It's natural to exclude extraneous thoughts like that. For example, it's a common trope that characters in movies never need to use the bathroom. Sure, it's realistic to use the bathroom but it has no relevance to the narrative.

>>15889868
it's funny, it's to the point where if the MC ever does actually go to the bathroom, you already know it's because it's time for the requisite 'walk in on heroine peeing' scene and not because he has to go real bad.

>>15889847
Yes, but I can't take that guy seriously when he puts them at the same level as Nabokov which is probably the only famous western writer he ever read before he went full weeb

https://vndb.org/t4800#19

>>15889928
He literally even says "i personally consider" before that though. There's no objective tone at all. You need to chill instead of looking for fights everywhere when there isn't one. You probably like your favorite VN writer more than one of the dozen literary canon writers as well, if not more than one.

Well this is stupid as fuck.

The problem is, OP, that you probably aren't seeing all the posts. If you are just viewing [s4s] through the /s4s/ board, you don't see the green posts, the posts with letters in their ids, or anything numberless. Together, those make up about 40-70 percent of [s4s], depending on the day. So conversation will appear disjointed and spastic, because you won't be getting the full picture.

I actually just flipped over to the /s4s/ interface to make this post, and it's pretty funny how unintelligible [s4s] is like this.

>>15889954
Use the plugin that halves ally damage and start having fun.

>>15889962
That one reduces their damages to 1/4, not half, also it'd get themselves killed quickly, so I think I prefer lowering the difficulty for this shit.

>>15889954
I'm finding this to be more annoying than that one was.

>>15889977
I actually got that pretty easily. It was on Hard difficulty IIRC.

Pic related for worst one so far.

>>15889998
I think I might've just waited too long to get it and I'm not patient enough to make up for having everything overleveled.

Anyone else finding it hard to find the motivation to read Senmomo? I keep reading for like 10 minutes and tabbing out to do something else. It's not funny like Daito or engaging like Aiyoku.

>>15890223
It kinda improves later on after chapter 4? but it's not particularly engaging and the plot itself is ass, unless you're japanese, because ego stroking must feel great.

>>15890223
Is this another story about protecting Japan from the Chinese and Koreans?

>>15890264
From evil americans who want to make it a democracy and some more FREEDOM shit.
Except they are a joke until the very end considering their origins.

>>15890236

>>15890264
It's not just that the "Republic" vs "Empire" shtick is damn old with no real interesting insights (so far) into either, it's just that there's nothing really interesting at all. The characters are generic, the whole deal about bujin is impossibly boring, I don't give a hoot whether the rebels succeed... I don't really care about Akari's revenge, MC's memories, whatever happens to Okonogi and the republic general dude, I really don't care about anything in the story. I've only laughed once so far in the whole game. So far it's not grabbing me either from comedy or from story.

>>15890321
Just installed. The gfx are nicely done, it surprised me.

>>15890338
The production values are pretty good, yeah, the use of videos and all that is very nice. The writing though, that's the bulk of the game and it's not so hot.

>>15890320
Yeah, parts of it are creepy,like both Kanami and Soujin being fine with her wanting to kill herself to atone for her grave sin.

I played a bit of Re:LieF trial, man this was a refreshing experience, the background artworks were amazing, the writing absorbs you in too. I felt I was really reading a " novel game " instead of an eroge. A pretty good job as the maker first title, this is a kind of a game that's hard to find outside of the doujin works. playing this for sure next month so I'll stop with the trial to avoid spoilers. Thanks for the anon who introduced me to this in this thread.

>>15890223
Personally I'm enjoying it immensely, the music is great, the girls are cute, there are some funny moments and some exciting moments. I certainly don't feel it's lost any quality over Daito or Eustia so far.

>>15890394
refreshing, eh? would you perhaps even go so far as to say it was a relief?

in all seriousness though, that's good to hear. I'll keep an eye out for it.

>>15890736
Forgot to add that the opening is amazing too
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJhlf6Sm2y4

Is it really impossible to find a VN where the MC is legitimately into crossdressing (Trying out clothes/lingerie for example)? One where you feel like the writer actually know what crossdressing is about.
I feel like every crossdressing VN out there is about the protagonist being forced to crossdress for plot reason and then said crossdressing never being mentioned again aside from a few jokes here and there.

Any good VNs with tsundere childhood friend heroines? Either classic or modern, even the more violent ones are a-ok

>>15890885
Kami no Ue no Mahoutsukai

>>15890913
Which heroine among the 4? Can't tell by the tags or the description

>>15890922
https://vndb.org/c23362
The tags kinda spoil her character a little, rough luck my friend.

>>15890927
Oh, well i don't mind that much, thanks

>>15890885
koichoco, she even has a serious meltdown on routes you don't choose her
she goes full deredere on her route though

>>15890992
Yeah, i read koichoco
Chisato was in mind when i specified "the more violent ones" i guess

>>15890922
Just noticed it was up in here >>15887721

>>15890992
I have a sick urge to see these "serious meltdowns"

>>15891056
they were honestly the best part of the game since the rest was heavily dependent on whether or not you liked the heroine

>>15890927
>Darkness Kid gives birth to Night Kid
Considering her albino-ness her mom's got a hell of a sense of humor.

>>15890854
>One where you feel like the writer actually know what crossdressing is about.
The same goes for artists. Panties don't stretch the way they draw. I don't think any of them actually know how they work.

That said, it'd be interesting to see a MC with genuine interest in crossdressing, as I haven't seen any so far.

>>15891133
I remember the MC from tsuriotsu having a love affair with women's fashion and designing women's clothes after it gave him a reason to live (it makes sense in context) but I don't think he was too hyped about actually wearing them himself. Sorry that wasn't exactly helpful.

>>15891088
I can agree with this, I found it amazing how she stole the best part of all the other girl's routes. So much better than those moege where all the other girls disappear when you pick one, it was great.

>>15891202
>Where all the other girls disappear whsn you pick one
Fuck if that doesn't always hit me with creeping loneliness every time, especially if the game has a long common route
In the end, if i like the girl, i don't mind too much, but i appreciate when a game eases me into it
Something like a love triangle still to be resolved or anything that doesn't kill the rest of the cast immediately

>>15890394
This from a VN whose title and setting are stolen from a recently popular anime?

"I'm your mother so if we have sex you have to wear a condom"

>>15891357
Me when a pervy teasing heroine suddendly has the innocence of the purest maiden imaginable
I get it, she has to be a virgin, but i'd rather have a poser heroine than see the personality that made me interested in her getting killed

>>15888091
To me, believable incest
Magical Charming
Quintuple Splash
Angel Ring
Hatsukoi

Unknown incest by both parties which leads to a real well known condition called 'Genetic Sexual Attraction'
Kazoku Koukan
https://vndb.org/v3954
Though only between the two true siblings

Tsun na Kanojo Dere na Kanojo
https://vndb.org/v1336

Unknown incest on the part of the brother
Clover Point
https://vndb.org/v427

I know it's a nukige but Sis Pon fits exactly your definition. I wouldn't call it particularly good because the turnaround is too quick
vndb.org/v2858
So does Minna Daisuk Kozukuri Banchou. Suffers from the same problem as Sis Pon
https://vndb.org/v496


Suddenly demons, magic, robots, bullshit causes the siblings to fuck whether they like it or not

Sister Scheme
https://vndb.org/v2137
and all of its sequels (though 3 was pretty shit)

Hara Chuchu
https://vndb.org/v1616
Sister Magic
https://vndb.org/v1637
Love Pote Gakuen
https://vndb.org/v15078
Inraku no Ketsuzoku
https://vndb.org/v3171
Bloods
https://vndb.org/v5082
Shinkon Seikatsu
https://vndb.org/v52300
Born Freaks
https://vndb.org/v567

So if you accept whatever is forcing them to fuck i guess you can accept the incest as believable.

>>15891439
Oh, I would like to explain, Magical Charming and Quintuple Splash the siblings are separated for many years because in both cases the sisters go to girl's only schools up until the protagonist joins them. It's believable that siblings separated their whole lives may become attracted to each other when reunified.

Angel Ring 'almost' fits what you're after as she only reveals her feelings for her brother on her own route. All others she's supportive of the heroines.

Hatsukoi of course is Hatsukoi. Probably the best and most believable reason why siblings would fall for each other, their parents are garbage and they cling to each other for support.

I literally had a high school acquaintance who fucked his own sister for the same reason, got caught, and force transfered out of school. The whole school knew about it after that. Take it as you will.

>>15881427
Acchi Muite Koi had me laughing my ass off until about 1/3 into the common route when it just couldn't keep it up and fell flat.

>>15891471
>asa project
Yuup

>>15888091

恋がさくころ桜どき mostly fits your criteria.

The brother and sister get along well and neither have any romantic interest in the other at the start. The sister ends up getting pushed into realizing her feelings and after a bit of hesitation works on trying to get her brother to reciprocate her feelings.

>>15891439
You are truly a scholar of eroge. I am impressed.

Hotori sure is busy, what with simultaneously studying as a normal high school student, leading an underground terrorist organisation to overthrow the government, working as the country's most popular and loved idol, training as a master sword-fighter, and making MC a bento every day. I wonder if she gets enough sleep.

>>15891549
And despite all that I was still bored to hell both by her and her chapter.

>>15891549
Probably what's most damaging my experience with Sen no Hatou is that the setting simply doesn't make sense. One EGS review which opened with
>設定におかしなところがあって気になった
is precisely how I felt. For me, I really need to have immersion and agree with the world but Senmomo really didn't even try to be believable or logical or anything. Really, really disappointing. The heroines are so cute, though, that as a kind of exaggerated moege I'm satisfied.

Does anyone have a link for this?
https://vndb.org/v11647

>>15891226
It was actually quite awesome how this disappearance of heroines was dealt with in the anime version of Mashiro-iro Symphony.
Though it still could be considered rather lonely thing.

Sorry for asking for spoonfeeding, but is there any new edgy gunfight/sword fight eroge other than maggot baits and Tokyo Necro?

Or military/espionage eroge? I think that has been a long time since one, dunno if Hello Lady is counted as one.

>>15891561
Where did the subtlety of Eustia even go? Maybe it's all a self parody.

Is anyone playing D&D on release in 3 days? Or are you guys rather reading senmomo

>>15891637
Anyone?

>>15891637
群青の空を越えて

>>15891684
I will be if it gets uploaded.

>>15891691
'Arigatou", but I'm asking for new stuff, dude, like in 2016.

>>15891696
why? you haven't read it anyways

>>15891698
I'm just checking if there is new military title in 2016, dude.

>>15891704
are you 12

>>15891680
To be fair, Eustia was set on a floating island with food/water magically provided for, about an MC who has the good fortune to meet with all the most important and powerful people in the kingdom, all of whom happen to be cute girls who fall in love with him, with the antagonist being his brother who somehow survived the disaster and rose to a rank to take control of the kingdom. It's not like Eustia was a hard-core serious grimdark story either.

>>15891709
What, why?

>>15891718
I guess at least Eustia knew it was a fantasy story so even the light hearted moments made sense in the context of the city, Senmomo tries to be this weird mix between classic august moege, serious action story and alternate reality fiction that tries to appeal to everyone and just results in being a huge mess.

>>15887721
Looks hot whats the name?

>>15887389
Blue looks cute

>>15891764
The idea that it resulted in a "huge mess" is just one opinion, there are people who are enjoying Senmomo immensely. It has both the cuteness and fun of Daito and the serious, action-packed story of Eustia, it's all I ever wanted.

>>15891439

I'll look into some of your suggestions. "Believable" is a thing for sure, but rather easy to circumvent with little impact on the storytelling. As far as I know, only the VERY young phase of growing up matters. So going to a different middle-school or whatever would probably be whatever, but being apart for whatever shallow reason during their first few years they don't remember anyway, it'd be already enough. And pretty much all the not related sisters work that way. (And they can still be just as shit as normal blood related sisters. There can be good ones as well though. I rather enjoyed the "sister" route in Shinikiss https://vndb.org/v1660 . The best thing of that eroge actually. Seemed realistic enough and the sibling aspect was handled rather well as well. If I'd not already know it, it'd also be what I'm looking for I guess..)

>>15891507

Thanks, added it to my list.

>>15891686
ハローワールド

>>15891637
There are two big titles with swords and some sword fights this year, but I doubt you'll like them or consider them edgy.

Watched Gusha's opening. God, they really pushed the childhood friend main heroine with the MC there. I hope the plot doesn't go full edgy on her route, being innocent, having strict parents, and the rebellious children theme of the game. I just want comfy loli x shota VN.

The opening song sucks balls though.

>>15891858
That's another very old title.
>>15891909
I consider it edgy if it's very brutal and with a lot of gore.

Meh, I should have said gory.

>>15891478
Is it a pattern with them?

>>15892011
Then check up Nikuniku. It's very gory and edgy.
It doesn't have any gun or sword fights though.

>>15892008
The game looks pretty bad overall honestly, unless there is some mega positive reviews I'm not gonna bother. Low Spec is the promising loli game of next month

>>15892024
Never heard of it, will check.

Need a crack for Baldr Force Standard Edition on 64-bit windows. Anyone?

>>15892040
Search for (NoCD Patch) AlphaROM 2.1～3.1汎用 rev4

>>15892040
Don't play the windows version you dolt, emulate the PS2 one.

>>15892045
Tried before asking, didn't work.

>>15892049
All torrents dead.

>>15892051
That works for me. Did you try running both the crack and the exe in administrator mode?

>>15892067
Yes, and this pesky error
>対応ファイルではありません
still refused to go.
Would appreciate if somebody could upload a patched exe on MEGA.

>>15892093
Patch reg.exe not the game executable.

>>15888399
Finished now and I agree.

You can tell the budget was huge but it just shows that throwing money at something doesn't make it better.

Feels like it was really rushed despite the huge amount of time they took with it (since they announced it 2 years ago).

Anyway, I'm not too disappointed but I think they could have made the story a lot better with the same cgs.
The route structure could work but every character should have had a proper longer chapter.

Also, 4 余談 per character seem a bit excessive although I love that they made ones for the side characters.

>>15892028

I just want vanilla shota x loli game, it's hard to find one that doesn't have harem or group sex, and the protagonist is about the same age as the loli heroines, so I'll give it a shot.

>>15892100
I usually try everything before asking for help here, so also no luck with that.

>>15892054
128 me PS2 NTSC-J set

>>15892140
Can't help you then, sorry. I no longer have the game installed but it definitely worked on my system (Win7 64) before.

Maybe win8 and above messed it up or your anti-virus is blocking reg.exe.

>>15892102
>Feels like it was really rushed despite the huge amount of time they took with it
My thoughts exactly, the first half drags like no tomorrow then the second just throws necessary plot points and is done with it, not to mention the flashback which is incredibly short despite how relevant the characters are, I couldn't give a shit about any of it.

>>15890927
>>15890922
>>15890913
Any games with this kind of artsyle? the artist only worked on this game

>>15892470
Majokoi or Himanatsu maybe

I didn't get a replay in the previous thread do I'll ask again
Did anyone here manged to play 夏ノ鎖 / Natsu no Kusari? How can I get past the serial key?

>>15892479
I still have it installed but can't remember how I installed it or which crack I used or anything. Do you want me to just upload my .exe and hope it works?

>>15892494
I'll be grateful if you do.

>>15892500
https://a.pomf.cat/rrrihk.rar
Virustotal has like 1/50-something hits.

I hope it simply works.

>>15891846
Please understand most everything you've heard about Wesermark is probably bullshit not the least of which the many examples of incest that occur between people raised together. He based all his data on Israeli kibbutzim but this has since been questioned, especially since hundreds of couples have been documented from the same Kibbutz since his research began and although marriages are few sexual attraction is common and that without cultural bias we cannot explain incest avoidance on biology alone.

For example, look up the Vadoma people who regularly practice incest despite growing up in close proximity together. Or the Australian brother and sister who fell in love and fearing punishment ran away together to live in the mountains. After 50 years their family was found still living in the mountains where fathers were having sex with daughters, aunts with nephews, uncles with nieces, and brothers with sisters; Westermark be damned.

Egypt practiced full on brother-sister incest for 300 years without long term genetic problems among the Egyptian people. Royal incest is so common among all groups on Earth there's no need to document it all.

There are so many examples I probably don't need to continue but there have been famous people admitting attraction to siblings live on TV to the case of MacKenzie Phillips who admitted to a consensual sexual relationship with her rock and roll father. These cases only come to light because the people involved are famous. It would probably be impossible for people to look into their family tree and find no amount of incest.

Finally, enjoy
http://www.vice.com/read/i-love-my-sister-876

>>15892503
Too bad it didn't work, I got an error when starting it. Thanks anyway anon.

>>15891718
Eustia has suspension of disbelief. Yeah, it's weird, but it makes sense as a hole. Senmomo simply doesn't. The factors don't work together and don't make sense straight from the beginning.

>>15892012
Absolutely. Funny beginnings, awful everything else.

>>15892541
I think Westermarck is damned at the point that inbreeding does happen in domestic and wild animals.
The only thing that makes humans different is the society and its taboos. Of course humans isolated from those social rules won't be affected by them.

>>15892611
Everything from 'normal' sibling behavior to 'moe moe kyun, please impregnate me onii-chan' exists somewhere within our own reality. Avoiding incest stories because you don't think they sound real seems to me to be pretty foolish.

>>15891684
I was going to, but have to finish Utawarerumono 3 first. It's my highest priority for September eroge though.

>>15891846
I suggest Sakigake Generation, its incest route has the elements you mentioned in your initial post, at least to some extent.

>>15892580
Too bad. I probably got it off nyaa if that helps.

>>15892838
I downloaded it twice from there, even though the two downloads have " already cracked " in title I still get the serial key protection without any clue in the download file. I hope someone here remember how it worked can help.

>>15891596
I raged so fucking hard at this that i learned the nihongo

>>15893046
Why exactly did you rage though?
Because of the heroine choice? Or because of crying Sana?

>>15893104
Heroine choice, i liked Airi
The curveball of not picking the main heroine hit me in the balls pretty hard

>>15893121
Yeah, I kinda agree with this.
Still it's nowhere as rage inducing as the heroine choice in Shuffle.

>>15893134
Hey, Asa was great until they murdered any shred of affection I had for her with that godawful clusterfuck of a character arc she had.

Sometimes it's nice to see the tomboy win. Though hell, I'd love to see the reactions if they ever let the token loli win in a generic harem adaptation.

>>15893134
I was too young to rage at Shuffle when i watched it, so i dodged that
Still, after watching mashifoni i started seeing anime as just glorified ads (it was for the psp game in that instance) and progressively stopped watching them unless original or if i craved some

Anyone else always skip vibrator focused h-scenes? Shit is the most annoying sounding thing on the planet.

>>15893134
>the heroine choice in Shuffle
I still mad
After all these years

>>15893134
>>15893208
What would have been the better choice in shuffle? Kaede?

>>15892732

Thanks. Completely matching is kinda impossible anyway, as stories are always a bit different. Good reason to add this one to the backlog, as I kinda wanted to do it anyway, but wasn't too sure.

>>15893202
I do too, i'm always disappointed when i see a toy focused scene

Anyone tried 空のつくりかた trial? Seems promising.

>ローファンタジー、割とギャングが出てくる街で日常モノ……なのかな。魔法もあるちょっと洒落た世界で日常モノをやりたいように読めた。薄暗く、ある程度階級分けされていて、ギャングの抗争があるというと「ユースティア」「インガノック」を思い出す。

>>15893202
sometimes you can lower the volume of vibes

>>15893213
Even token Primula would have been better. Asa was literally pulled out of fucking nowhere.

>>15893202
Vibrators are fine for me, I don't like them, but they don't hurt my ears. I can't stand the typical high pitched moaning in japanese porn, though.

>>15893229
They had great chemistry the whole show though. At least as far as 'great chemistry' goes for a mediocre harem vn adaptation. Kaede was so unremarkable they had to completely invent her yandere side just to make her stand out.

>>15893257
>completely invent her yandere side
She had it in the VN, just not the violent kind, it appears strongly in Asa's route.
>even if it's just by the side I NEED to be by your side Junichi
She comes off as kinda crazy, which translates as yandere in this case.

>>15891588
It's on clubbox if you search for 010525 but if you really really can't download it yourself I can get it

>>15893318
Admittedly it's been something approaching 7 years since I read it but I don't remember Kaede being anything other than clingy childhood friend in the VN. Wasn't even the boxcutter incident rather downplayed as well? As in, it was a thing that happened in the past and while they touch on it, nothing like it ever really resurfaced again.

I picked up the VN because I had liked the show way back when I was first getting in to anime, ended up being considerably disappointed on all fronts, so I'm probably a fair bit biased. Entirely possible my memory's corrupted since then.

>>15893352
I'm basicaly referring to the scene in Asa's route where they meet after she's going out with Junichi and it goes beyond clingy and into emotional dependency bordering on yandere.

>>15893226
I tried a bit of it. It was pretty meh. Everything felt so dull and all the characters are archetype without any fun twist to them. Man, the best Cosmic Cute title for me was gleam garden no shoujo, they should hire the writer of this game again.

God why are eroge so long and padded. I mean I guess it's because they're expensive as all fuck and people want to get value out of their money... but still.

>>15893202

Nah. I definitely skip blowjobs though. Those sound so hilariously wrong in eroge I rather laugh than anything else. Also most "sound effects" they use in ero-scenes are things I'd rather mute as well. They tend to sound like shit too.

>>15893361
Ah, I don't have any clear memory of that at all, but I'll take your word for it. Younger/dumber me was probably just disappointed she didn't stab anybody and that warped into 'she's boring and generic' in my head over the years.

>>15890854
Fuck, really? There is like a thousand trap VN, but not a single time has an author/company gone "Hey we should write a game for people who, themselves, are into crossdressing."?

>>15893335
Not him, but could you reupload the Japanese version of Divi-dead? It's on Clubbox too.

>[980123][シ-ズウェア] DIVI-DEAD(ディヴァイデッド) CD-ROM版.rar

>>15893368
Seriously? I'm almost at the point where i'm so bored of vaginal that i get aroused only by blowjobs or various forms of intercrural
Of course it always depends on the VA i guess

>>15893393
I'll do it if I remember, if I don't post it here in a week please remind me

>>15893405
Sure.

https://omochikaeri.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/september-2016-eroge-releases/

>>15893368
It depends on the VA definitely, very few are good at it. See Misonoo Mei.

>>15893434
>They don’t even list the artist(s) on the game site.
Wtf smee? I mean yeah it doesnt seem good at all, but why would you hide his name because of it. Also they definitely need a new artist.

>>15893434
The only games I'm interested in this month are D&D and Senmomo, kinda dull month.

>>15893704
Does Utawarerumono 3 count? I'm interested in playing it

>>15893434
I already read and was kinda disappointed by senmomo so D&D if the partial voice acting doesn't bug me much.

>>15893704
Can you really call it a dull month if it has D&D and Senmomo? That's already better than every other month this year. Plus Utawarerumono 3 (and P5, though it's not a VN) on console. Pretty good month, I'd say.

>>15893368
I still don't understand how they think touching a vagina or fucking sounds like grabbing in a puddle of mud. Slapping sounds are kind of hot but they always tend to mix it with those awful slush sounds.

http://www.sumikko-soft.com/akikuru/

Fucking finally. Took their sweet time.

>>15893853
Well, the fact senmomo is pretty meh hurts it.

>>15893865

>>15893865
Blonde osananajimi looks cute, but her VA sounds like she's sick

>>15893889
I'm curious what horrifying incident happened while waking up MC that forever scarred her. I'd rather have it some sort of Calvin & Hobbes 'noodle incident' affair that never gets explained, but chances are it'll be either she saw his dick or some hilariously convoluted bullshit that ends up being a major plot point.

>>15894026
Maybe they'll just reuse the 朝立ち scene from Harukuru.

Anyone here played 俺の彼女のウラオモテ? Is it enjoyable?
I love both Tateha's art and Mizukiri Keito's voice

Anyone has a good link like mega for utawarerumono 3?

>>15894562
It's piratable?

>>15894828
On PS3. Probably Vita, too. Just not PS4.

>>15894562
None so far, I think. You'll probably have to download from gamerlz if you can't wait for Nicoblog.

>>15894026
>hilariously convoluted bullshit that ends up being a major plot point.

Probably. Knowing Watanabe it will bend space and time itself.

Is this the best fight scene in Senmomo?
I think that it is.

>>15895627
I wish there was more of this and less edgy political shit

Anyone play pic related? Premise sounds interesting and there are some pretty awesome pics.

It's Natsuyuru as bad h scene wise as Harukuru? Can you skip them at least?

>>15895735
I wish there was actual edgy political shit and less NIPPON BANZAI and 'we're staging a coup but let's go to the beach'.

>>15895742
It's probably worth a try if you like rape. The OP got me interested when the game came out, but I don't think there is much to it besides the porn.

>>15896006
That's all nice but is it just a rape nukige or are there horror elements in it? Pic related spooked me quite a bit.

>>15896024
I don't know sorry. I want to know that too. But from what I understand it's not a very good horror/mystery game.

>>15896024
What's wrong with her? Does she need eye drops?

>>15896024
I wouldn't expect that much story from a 6 hour long rape nukige.. still egs says:
ジャンル バイオレンス・スプラッター (2) , ホラー・伝奇 (2) , 狂気・猟奇 so maybe worth a look? At least it's not big time investment.

>>15896204
My Japanese isn't that smooth yet, so it would be a much longer investment depending on how hard of a read it is.

I find it funny these 武人 don't hide their identities or wear masks during their operations. I'm enjoying it so long as I'm not taking it seriously.

>>15896444
They are proud japanese super-samurais guiden by LOYALTY, they don't need to.

>>15895880
Nope unlike kururu there isn't an H scene wall in yururu. imo they weren't as funny or important to the plot as kururu either so you can skip em

Wanna ask how was shin ai i mean i liked nijina and was wondering ither than the music btr was the game good?

>>15896765
Whoops sorry for speeling im talking about koi x shin ai kanjou and the music ntr

How is 1/2 summer its got a bunch of interesting people workibg on it

Wait so key's new game is out in english only?

https://vndb.org/v16510

>>15896817
Yes. Key really has fallen to the lowest of all the low.

>>15896817
Well that is one way to produce an instant kusoge.

>>15896817
Why is there no announced release date for the JP version?

>>15897003
Because they haven't announced it.

>>15896765
read Sena and then download full save to unlock true end, because other routes generic garbage.

星降る夜のファルネーゼ

原画
「ゆき恵 / なえなえ」

シナリオ
「岩片烈」

ジャンル
「ファンタジー世界で魔女っ娘を助ける脱衣裁判推理ＡＤＶ」

Sen no Hatou is a big dissapointment if you're not really interested with Akari.

I tried Hotori's route and it ended in 1 hour without real conclusion with Filthy gaijin still occupying Japan and the prime minister is still alive.I want to take back glorious nippon from filthy gaijin with my wife. Why I'm forced to play Akari's route if I want to experience the real story...

>>15897246
Not to mention the world is childishly simplistic and the MC dull as hell. I'm stunned but August really dropped the ball here.

>>15897246
Eustia was the same though, so not really. Just you going in with wrong expectations.

It's better when games have one true route.

>>15897266
He didn't mention Eustia at all.

>>15897246
It's disappointing even if you are interested in her, really.
Eustia at least had (mostly) interesting chapters and good world building, Senmomo is just dull.

>>15897272
>Eustia at least had (mostly) interesting chapters and good world building
Definitely agreed, While I dont think senmomo is a bad game its definitely not close to Eustia imo. The second half of the game feels really rushed, and they announced it like 2 years ago or something.

>>15897289
>feels really rushed
Which is funny because of how boring and dragged out the first half feels because of awful school stuff and boring plot developments overall.
Not to mention how badly the game flows, goes from one event to another like in a checklist.

>>15897266
>>15897272
I never played Eustia but I played Daitoshokan. So, I expected a full proper route for main girls.

>>15897251
I'm not sure about MC l but I do agree all of the "bujin" stuffs are dull.

>>15897303
Yeah, wrong expectations. It's not a moege.

>>15897306
>It's not a moege.
Scenarioge can have routes for the whole cast, you know.
At least in Eustia the chapters were longer so even if all the romance was crammed in a side route, it felt a bit more like you got to know the girls and they had substantial development.

>>15897306
>It's not a moege
How does that relevant at all?

>>15897300
Yeah, as I said its not a bad game but definitely overrated currently, a little better than average imo.

Or maybe I feel like that because I was very hyped for a long time and it didn't meet my expectations at all.

>>15897334
>Or maybe I feel like that because I was very hyped for a long time and it didn't meet my expectations at all.
You've got a point. Had this not been an August game, perhaps the mediocrity wouldn't sting so much.

>>15897314
That's not what they have done before in Eustia though. And eroge which do that turn out to be terrible e.g. Rewrite. Even Baldr Heart, a completely different game, has one true route. Your favorite girl not being the true route is not a criticism, and it's like picking up a Dostoevsky book and complaining about which girls get the most screen time. If you want a moege, play a moege.

>>15897334
I wasn't hyped for it and still felt disappointed, like, it could have been a great game but fell really short.
And comparisons to eustia just make it look worse.

>>15897347
I think you're still misunderstanding. In this game, the routes are very brief and unsatisfying in every way. The problem isn't Akari being the only true route, the problem is the heroines having shitty, brief routes. Baldr Heart had substantial routes of good quality for the heroines so I don't think you understand what the criticism is.

>>15897347
Baldr Heart's biggest problem was that Kanna didn't get her own route.

>>15897355
That's because they aren't "routes" like what you usually think of when you hear the word, they're there for masturbation purposes since it's an eroge and has to sell. The game practically only has one route.

>>15897358
Agreed. Kanna was better than most of the actual heroines.

>>15897347
Baldr Heart's not-the-true routes were good though, Having a true route doesn't mean that everyone will ignore the badness of other routes. They are part of the game as well, and if those parts are shitty it'll drop the enjoyment of the game.

>>15897369
>the game practically only has one route.
Hence the complaints my man.

>>15897382
Just because they're better doesn't mean they're good. It's pretty much unanimously agreed that Baldr Heart would be better off without a route system or h scenes at all. Same case for senmomo. In any case the true route is good in both games so it's whatever, but I guess if the additional otaku bait they added onto the game to sell more aggravates you this much, it can't be helped. I learned to ignore it.

>>15897347
If they're really trying to make a scenarioge they wouldn't put them in highschool or makes one of the heroine an idol or fighting a gun with katana.

>>15897411
>It's pretty much unanimously agreed that Baldr Heart would be better off without a route system or h scenes at all.
What?

>>15897411
>It's pretty much unanimously agreed that Baldr Heart would be better off without a route system or h scenes at all.
Since when? First time I hear anyone implying such a thing.

>>15897411
>It's pretty much unanimously agreed that Baldr Heart would be better off without a route system or h scenes at all.
By fuwanovel community or something?

>>15897411
I don't know about unanimous at least. One of the parts I liked about Heart's story was how each subsequent route felt like it was building off of and expanding the world from the precious routes.

Ero is holding back eroge, this medium could be much more.

>>15897428
>>15897434
>>15897438
Not him but I agree. The route system only lead to endless repetition of the same concepts we already understood and the ero-scenes suck anyway.

>>15897456
I mean you can do the same thing without routes.

>>15897461
Otaku rule the market, it can't be helped. I do like stories where ero is implented properly and makes sense but it obviously has no place in a game like Baldr Heart.

>>15897476
Why are you replying to joke posts?

>>15897438
Just by those kids where mommy isn't allowing them to play porn games.

What's with OST torrents not having the OP song? baka

>>15897556
That's actually common, OP being sold a separate CD.

When you stop being new, you won't find it weird.

>>15897567
Yes I said it's common by using the plural form, hence the question of why that is. I don't want to know what your Japanese reading comprehension is if you understand this little English...

>>15897582
Tbh pal if you were able to observe OSTs not having OPs, you should have noticed OPs being separate CDs (= separate uploads).

>>15897639
I didn't actually know CDs with only two songs on them existed. Isn't that a massive waste of space?

>>15897476
>I mean you can do the same thing without routes.
You can't explore wildly different scenarios without routes.

>>15897679
I guess. But core fans buy it.

>>15897461
All ages are the best. Read hmanga is you want to fap

>>15897679
More like 4 songs with karoke versions. So I guess millenials don't know maxi cd singles anymore?

>>15897679
It's a tradition from the time of vinyls where singles used a smaller vinyl that was made to hold one song per side (pic related), therefore there wasn't "empty" space. That's also where the term Side A and Side B to refer to the main song and secondary song in a single comes from.

It is a waste of space on CDs though since all CDs are made to hold up to 80 minutes and it's done because selling singles is still profitable, but it will stop being a waste again once CDs disappear in favor of digital downloads.

Feels good to be vindicated by a Japanese user.

>>15897978
I hate those things too. Meaningless and long narrations make everything boring, dull, and uninteresting.

(Kanami route) I really enjoyed this route, Kanami is super cute and I love the idea of someone willing to sacrifice everything and see millions of people die for the person she loves. However I have one issue.

Why the fuck was it necessary for her to refer to MC as お義兄様? I know that we can't always have blood-related imoutos and there's probably a reason I'll find out later why he's adopted. But there's no need to rub it in my face every single time she opens her mouth that she's NBR. Especially when the sex scene is filled with attempts to appeal to the 罪悪感 of having sex with your imouto, repeating every five seconds that it's wrong and immoral, and yet we get reminded that she's just 義理 in every line! Why couldn't they just write お兄様 like normal siblings?

>>15898056
She's a shit, a huge shit and basically a non-character, somehow they managed to make a worse version of Eris route in less than one hour.

>>15897978
I haven't followed senmomo development history at all, is this guy just making a guess or was senmomo an actual webnovel?

>>15898452
I don't think anyone said that was for senmomo and I also don't think people have been saying senmomo has excessive narration in the first place.

>>15898460
Oh right, I jumped to conclusions because of the idol stuff, that's not even hotori's name

>>15898056
She has my favorite character design and voice out of the whole cast. Too bad she doesn't get a real route due to the story structure.

>>15898660
Care to spoil me on how the story is structured? I don't quite get it by only reading some bits about it

>>15898673
There's a linear story. Periodically, a choice arises that allows you to branch off the linear story and into the route of a single girl. However, since the story is linear, these branches amount to "you have sex and everything is OK" even as the main story remains entirely unresolved.

>>15898660
I really like the Eustia route structure, it allows a long continuous story while still devoting time to each girl. If they took the effort to make fully fledged side routes the true route would suffer for it. We got plenty of ichaicha and cute sex, and actual plot is better left to the true story, so I'm happy.

>>15898888
I like it too, but I think it was a mistake for Senmomo, because they clearly were upping the ante for moe elements and the story suffered for it. So the elements are conflicting: It's a moege with no proper route system, it's a plotge with the plot damaged significantly by moe, it's a mess. A big fat mess.

>>15898936
They wanted the Eustia audience and the Daito audience so they thought they'd get both with one title but ended up pleasing neither.

>>15898944
Where does this idea that those who liked Eustia and those who liked Daito are different people come from? I bet there's a very large overlap between them.

>>15896817
We are truly living in the darkest eroge timeline.

>>15891818
bump

>>15899876
See >>15890913

did they edit the scenes to make them move?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28533719

>>15899881
感謝