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Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/games

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

>Eng Wiki Links (Unless otherwise mentioned)
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/

Millennium War Aigis:
>Eng Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/

http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>Eng ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png

Osawari Island:
>Jp Osawari wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/
>Osawari chat
http://osawari.chatango.com/
>Jp Alchemy Page
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/d/%cf%a3%b6%e2
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Jp Wiki
http://girls-union-wiki.gamerch.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Dragon Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://drapro.wiki.fc2.com/

Quiz of Valkyrie:
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/quizofwalkure/

Flower Knight Girl:
>Eng Wiki
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/
>Jp Wiki
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/

Shooting Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wiki.kanmuryou.com/shooting-girl/index.php

Idol Wars Z:
>Jp Wiki
http://idolwarsz.com/

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

DMM

X-Overd:
>Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/x-overd/

Sengoku Providence:
>Wiki
http://xn--dck1bzb8cufqbe7009ew8ua.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?

>> No.15786743

Serious question:
How am i supposed to feel about getting Elva event before Yurina?
Almost a week and i'm still wondering why they did such a thing and how Nutaku devs are going to fix such a mess.
It's like reading a book from the end, plain bullshit.

>> No.15786753

>>15786743
Happy is what you're supposed to feel if you're playing.

Just pretend its a flashback when we get Yurina's event, its not exactly uncommon in books.

>> No.15786804

>>15786743
Skipping Eliza is probably bothering me the most, like I just cannot think of a reason why she'd be cut. Is she too pale or something?

>> No.15786837

>>15786804
Compliance Department's logic is not something mere mortal could comprehend.

>> No.15787048

Did we get another event schedule? I'm sure they don't want to make noise since they probably didn't even start the take-over process but it was nice to have some certainty at least.

>> No.15787087

>>15787048
No event schedule, my bet is that they've taken over and want some extra time so are poorly passing themselves off as dev tea till they're ready.

>> No.15787384

>>15786753
Eh you got a point there, i guess Nutaku players should be happy to get anything at all instead of a 3 weeks break.

>>15787048
This makes me remember... Nutaku should take over after this event or around half month if i recall correctly.

>>15786804
With all these skipped events, Nutaku schedule is a complete mess..

>> No.15787400

>>15787384
I'm pretty sure Nutaku has no clue how to get Aigis back on track either.

It's probably a lost cause, and I kind of feel sorry for them because their attempts to revive it are sure to be painful for all parties involved.

>> No.15787406

Any point in getting 27 stars? I have 25.

>> No.15787429

>>15785950
Let me know dude, I need to join one too

>> No.15787470

>>15787400
My thoughts goes to the developers that are going to deal with a almost sunken ship.
The shit they have to deal with is simple ridicolous.

>> No.15787530
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15787530

Seems like Kanpani Girls also jumped into the "pay to get your favorite girls" system.

>> No.15787654

>>15787470
So Nutaku Aigis is confirmed dead now.

>> No.15787699

>>15787654
It's as dead or as alive as always. If Nutaku had already taken control of the game as >>15787087 said, I would say they are actually greatly passing themselves as Dev tea. And as always, we can only guess and wait.

>> No.15787703

>>15787654
Nah, there's still time for that. These browser games can survive for years on a handful of whales, and Aigis is a cut above the rest because it has actual gameplay.

But Nutaku probably aimed for something greater and is currently floundering in mediocrity, so I can't imagine them to be happy about the state of things either. They're still bringing in good profit by releasing DMM games to an eager EN audience, but they in all likelihood won't make the big splash they were hoping for. Kancolle is a distant dream now, for example.

They also have a terrible reputation due to their past (and present) censorship, poor management of some games, and ridiculous excuses about how none of it is their fault, so there's that to consider as well.

>> No.15787820

>>15787699
>>15787703
For the case of Aigis, I don't think Nutaku takes over would help it that much. As oldest game on Nutaku right now, i doubt it can bring more new players, facebookfags don't like old and busted game and Nutaku didn't advertise it much often, being long term plan gameplay isn't helping it either with you average casual and low patient Nutaku's audience. The game need whales but if it has enough of whales , the Tea Team wouldn't abandon it for year
The future of Nutaku Aigis is pretty fuck

>> No.15787837

>>15787820
I don't think it needs new players to begin with. Whenever there's an event going on, it still makes top 5.

As bad as the lack of content has been, it already has an established playerbase that continues to throw money at it, no matter how bad things got.

Revitalizing the content would be more than enough to get the existing playerbase to keep spending, which is really all that matters.

Now, whether Nutaku can actually deliver said content in a timely, competent matter is a different story.

>> No.15787857

So, any strategy for subjugation 500 clear w/out bunch of gacha blacks yet?

>> No.15787905

>>15787703
>>15787820
What I've learned after playing browser games and mobages for quite some time is that one should stop expecting localizations of japanese titles. Because even if they're out, then it's more likely for them to be x10 times deader than the original and eventually shut down. Western market just doesn't appreciate the genre enough. Most people here would rather play Clash of clans than Aigis.

>> No.15788100

Anyone who wants to start a production on Idol Wars Z? Judging from the last thread it seems that we have around enough people to do just well.

>> No.15788246

>>15787530
Fuck when's aigis getting this shit?

>> No.15788356

>>15788246
Ironically, your best chance would be Nutaku Aigis if they do takeover and things are grim enough. Like Kanpani.

>> No.15788374

Which daily reprint units are must have for a new player? Also what should i do with the dupes?

>> No.15788396

>>15788374
Cloris, Belinda since they don't require any real cost or skill work.

Liselotte if you can work on getting her to cost min.

Up to you on dupes.
- Use them to boost skill/reduce cost on the unit
- Use them to boost skill on other units with the same
- Cash them in for 3 (IIRC) rainbow crystals each
- Use them as EXP fodder with fairies

>> No.15788439

>>15788396
Can they drop multiple times in one map?

>> No.15788461

>>15788439
Once per run. Guaranteed on the first time you kill the drop enemy on each new map. Drops by chance every time after, with harder maps having higher chances.

>> No.15788493

>>15788396
>>15788461
I see. Thanks for the help.

>> No.15788550

For kanpani girls, does nutaku keep it alive enough to play that version, or is it better to just play the dmm version like Aigis.

>> No.15788566

>>15788550
It was super dead for so long that a lot of us quit playing it on Nutaku. Events were getting skipped for long periods of time, no real content updates, they were throwing rare units at you in hopes of keeping you there, etc.

Not sure what the current state of the game is. Probably not much better.

>> No.15788585

>>15788550
Play on DMM server if you want to take advantage of the current 2nd Anniversary bonus.
>>15788566
I think they are adding new girls an releasing small updates here and there, but I doubt anything can really save it now.

>> No.15788673
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15788673

Okay, so I need some info on god-tier demon crystals.

I have AW40 Spica. With prince boost, she can one-shot eyes, right? I think that's enough for her to hit 900+ damage. She has base attack, plus prince's boost and her own boost to archers.

I also have Sandra. But I don't have a feng shui/geomancer.

How should I set up my units to beat it? I figure I might need a third ranged unit for cleanup in the back (maybe just dropping Aisha since she's sortied for the 14% HP), maybe a third healer since I don't have feng shui. What do other people do?

Or do I just have no chance?

>> No.15788676

>>15788673
Sorry, set that up to add Spica's attack and then forgot to do it. She has -515- base attack.

>> No.15788711

>>15788566
Well that's kinda sad to hear. Oh well, most of the games are on DMM anyway.

>>15788585
Will do, thanks for the info.

>> No.15788756
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15788756

Fucking hell, that last skill level cost me 16 rainbows.

>> No.15788958

>>15788673
I/H -> Put Spica or AW Claire or some kind of leveled up Archer.
N/M -> High level Healer/Feng Shui
D -> Gold+ Ninja
B -> Normal Prince
C -> Sandra (she will one shot any oncoming eyeballs)

This has been working for me, you may need to put down a witch at G during the beginning waves to slow down one eyeball if they don't die.

If this doesn't work, an AW Cannoneer or Mage could help. Maybe you should look up a video if you're not entirely sure.

>>15788374
Units you will use in almost every hard map or just will help you overall in the game:
Reanbell, Juno, Liselotte, Waltz, Odette, Emilia

Will sometimes help you because of how special these units are:
Chloe, Ricca, Belinda, Eliza, Chloris, Corinne, Lucille, Shiho, Kanon, Maribell, Miranda, Charlotte

Niche (good units but mostly only used during certain maps):
Rita, Flan, Ling, Yurina, Revy, Sarasa, Isabelle

These girls deserve love and a better reason to them:
Azami, Momiji, Rorone, Ada

Use extra units as rainbow crystals or to skill up other units. They are only good as EXP on the units of the same class. Otherwise female units and drop units tend to give less EXP than male units or gacha units.

>> No.15789046

>>15788711
Enter these codes for a gold post and 30 shine stones.
NC06 CMNT ARGT
NC04 SCND ANNY

>> No.15789239

>>15789046
Sweet, thanks for that.

I swear I probably miss hundreds of these codes over the years of playing these games.

>> No.15789254

>>15789239
These codes come like once a year actually. Most of the time they just send stuff straight into your in game gift box instead.

>> No.15789294
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15789294

How is /jp/ doing on the new Angel Subjugation on DMM?

>> No.15789371

>>15788958
Damn I wanted to use Azami and Momiji since I love those type of character designs, what a shame.

Thanks for the list though.

>> No.15789437

>>15789294
Not well. Have SAW Nadia, Anelia, Sabrina and Shizuka (plus AW Prince) so swarms are not a big problem, but my healers can't keep up with that last rush.

>> No.15789471

>>15789437
Who are you using for Healing? What I used in my picture is way overkill for healing btw

>> No.15789496

>>15788958
>Units you will use in almost every hard map or just will help you overall in the game:
>Reanbell, Emilia
>Will sometimes help you because of how special these units are:
>Belinda, Chloris
>Niche (good units but mostly only used during certain maps):
>Flan

Dude, what?

>> No.15789500

>>15789471
Non-AW Chydis and gold Iris are the only healers I've raised.

I've been planning for Elias to be my third.

>> No.15789517

>>15789496
Oh good, I thought I was going crazy.

>> No.15789600
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15789600

>>15789294
Congrats dude, I'm a shitter stuck at 469.

I have no idea how my healers can survive the archangel, so for the last 2000 kills or so I stopped bothering. I use 4 healing units (Kikyou, Yuno, Gold Iris, Eretto) and they're not even close to enough.

If I had black fairies I'd awaken Eterna for the mage/heal shenanigans, but I don't think that will help much once the archangel arrives and nukes everyone. I'm also having a lot of problems with Mirnos taking too long to die with their ridiculous regen.

>> No.15789629

>>15789600
You want a Physical Duelist to drop onto the Archangel as soon as he steps onto that melee spot right next to where he spawns in the top left. If you do that, his meteors should only hit the unit where Mehlis is standing before he gets forced to switch to a regular melee attack. I actually used Dark Knight since I had him SAW so he could swing for 2k+ physical damage. I think the real worry is more like you said, enemy Mirunos having bullshit HP Regen. I was actually more worried about accidentally leaking because of that, then I was of actually losing units from not helaing fast enough.

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>>15789629
Unfortunately, I don't have a tanky duelist. I tried blocking with Dina but she couldn't handle it since the healers were busy healing other units as well.

Both my Bernice and AW Prince are taking too much damage from pic-related.

>> No.15790014

Someone that plays Shiropro know what dailies are each day?

Im starting in the game and seems enough fun to keep playing after the level 15, any tips for starters would be nice too.

>> No.15790038

>>15790014
win 3 sorties, combine 1 shiromusu, build 1 shiromusu.

>> No.15790043

>>15789496
I said this because:
Reanbell's Skill AW is amazing. If you dont think this then youre crazy because she is used a lot in Majin and Subjugation maps.

Emilia is good if you need someone to single target tank a boss. Eventually as you gacha and get better units she will be phased out but for a noob she wikl be useful.

I do not use witches alot. At all. Nor do I use Fran much. If I need someone to do magic damage I have Shiho. They are needed as there are plenty of maps where you need multiple witched but it's not a high priority IMO.

Fran is only needed if you need a tank short ranged DPS. Generally, you're fine using an archer.

>> No.15790092

So Nutaku FKG is ten events in with the 11th event in a few days, all at a consistent pace, for once.

Any DMM players know the schedule for when we'll start getting more QoL additions (x100 normal gacha draw, daily refresh of gold premium draws, the garden, whatever else I'm forgetting)?

>> No.15790152

>>15790038
So its not like Aigis? Where each day is a different reward like aff, exp armor, fairy..?

And u get gems doing these dailies always?

>> No.15790254

>>15790152
Daily ninmu - what I listed. Same every day, and Aigis doesn't even have such function.
Daily sorties - Weapon / Exp / Presents rotating on weekdays and Weapon/Presents together on weekend.

No, you don't get gems from daily ninmu, rewards are gold, building sone and building exp girl. You get gems as rewards for one-time ninmu (yellow ones), there's fixed number of them and once you cleared them all there's no more of them.

>> No.15790337
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15790337

Who to level next?

>> No.15790369

>>15790337
Despia then Saria.

>> No.15790471
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15790471

You guys told me this would be hard.

>> No.15790516

>>15788756
Enlighten me /jp/.
What's so special about Chydis?

>> No.15790532

>>15790516
She's the best healer available for many since most people don't have plat or black gacha healers. Her skill gives her extra range for a long time.

>> No.15790544

>>15790516
1200 heal at 338 range for 120 seconds.

>> No.15791008

fuckfuckfuck
>begin playing aigis during horace event
>shitty f2p player
>get fucked over and over by mummies, still shitting bandages even today
>perform 13 stars, people say is good after all for a lv30

>so many months passed lv is now 170
>team is filled of only 50cc or other maxed units, afffection around 50%~
>still shitty f2p player
>elva event happen
>can't get more than 13 stars either, trio-happy-cannon glued that tool on my butt
>not enough affection drug to raise girls power more.

aigis has the propieties tp make you feel satisfied one day and make you fell a shit the next one

>> No.15791022

>>15791008
I'm f2p who missed all those powerful event girls like Karma and Anya, and still got every event since Rowana completely maxed out.
Seems like you didn't spend some of stamina during breaks.

>> No.15791029

>>15791008
>playing on Nutaku
Well, we always told you but you don't listen
>>15791022
Looks like he doesn't have enough silver to CC units

>> No.15791523

It looks like I can't use DMM doujin anymore for things that were released since yesterday. It gives me a region error. I can buy older things just fine, though. Anyone experiencing the same?

>> No.15791982

>>15791008
whom are you quoting, m8?

>> No.15792278

>>15791029
He said he has only 50cc or other maxed units, so looks he didn't prioritize affection properly.

In case you haven't been doing Skyfallen Gift god tier map: do it. It's a shitton of rubies and diamonds and you only need a decent Bashira, healer, mage, and some witches to clear it.

>> No.15792834

How does one obtain Nutaku gold?

>> No.15792902

Im lvl 10 in Shiropro and cant level castle construction from lvl 3, do i have to be more level to keep doing it?

>> No.15792970
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15792970

Any advices on whom to raise next / general course of action?

>> No.15792989

>>15792970
You need always 2 healers 40CC at least, sometimes u will need even 3 healers CC

After that level the

>> No.15792995

>>15792970
>>15792989
the magesº

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15793234

>>15792970
The dark priest is likely wildly useless right now, if the event one is anything to go by
They're getting their AW soon, supposedly, might get better then.

I recommend getting rid of Maribel in favor of a better HA(even Leanne is better), and getting ready to CC the plat healer from current event

Also try to lower Liselotte's cost, 15 for non-CC soldier is too much to be useful

>> No.15793270

>>15793234
>I recommend getting rid of Maribel in favor of a better HA(even Leanne is better), and getting ready to CC the plat healer from current event

Holy shit what.

>> No.15793281

>>15793270
Which part do you have a problem with?

Maribel isn't a very good HA because she won't tank anything of importance since she's so dependent on her skill
The imperial healer sounds like a good source of a low-cost plat healer for a freemium without having to invest crystals into Chydis

>> No.15793307

Any game that doesn't become a boring routine after 2 weeks?

>> No.15793375

>>15793281
>Maribel isn't a very good HA because she won't tank anything of importance since she's so dependent on her skill

Maribel isn't a HA unit that you use to just tank something forever. Jeris and Berenice are more suited for that. And she isn't someone who can deal lots of damage like Miranda or Garrett. She's a nice in between that deals decent amount of damage while tanking a good amount.

If you do skill AW her, she can tank almost everything for 70 seconds. If you don't, that's fine because she is a solid 3-4 block unit, something you can't get much in the game if you're F2P. Being skill dependant isn't a bad thing, then that would mean angels, sailors, and puppeteers are terrible units but they're not.

Also, if you're F2P, your options for HA is limited. Miranda, Berenice sometimes, silver units, Maribel. And if you use your red crystals to buy units, you can get Raichi for a mage armor. You might as well invest into Maribel because you will need 4 block units.

>> No.15793457

Is Maribel-faggot back already?

She's objectively shit, and so is Emilia, for that matter.

>> No.15793565

>>15793307
I know some that gets boring after 2 minutes

>> No.15793573

>>15792970
Switch Odette with another mage. She's good, but she's expensive for a mage, even at min cost. You don't want to use her at that cost. Replace her with Pallis and replace the bishop girl with another witch (Cloris if you have her, Nenya or Calliope, I prefer Nenya, if you don't). If you can't, keep the bishop girl in her place and replace Odette's slot with the witch. You can trade her back for one of your mages when you get her cost down.

Drop Maribel. Replace her with Leeanne and replace Leo with Bernard. Only keep Maribel if you don't have Bernard. She's not very good.

Work on bringing down Lise's cost if you're going to keep her. She's good enough at generating points that you're kind of okay until you CC her, but she really is very expensive. Might even be a good idea to replace her with Phyllis until you can get her cost down.

Put a valkyrie (preferably Mischa) in somewhere. I'd recommend taking out either Nicolaus or the dark priest.

>>15793375
Maribel is a bad unit. And Leeanne is disgustingly broken for a silver. Beating out Bernice pre-AW is no easy feat, but she does it.

Wouldn't recommend Miranda over either Leeanne or Bernard, either, since she's an offense-focused HA. Honestly, both of the common silver HAs are better than both of the daily revival HAs.

>> No.15793769

>>15792970
If you by any chance have a maxed skill Odette, AW her ASAP and give her SA, that skill is so broken, making enemies go into negative magic def.

>> No.15794079

>>15793769
>>15793375
Why are you guys expecting a him to have a max skill Maribel or Odette? I mean come on, look at that cost.

I understand the use of Odette since she has decent stats, but Maribel's stats are so shit it's not even debatable. If he needed a unit that can block and wreck shit, his Hibari would do a hell of a better job.

>> No.15794209

>>15793457
What about the event bandit Imeria?

>> No.15794270

>>15794209
Imeria is ok but nothing special on her own, when AW buffing better bandits like Cellia or Lyla who have high health is the best.
Unlike Maribel and Emilia, Imeria is not a bad version of her class, just not a great one.

>> No.15794276

So I'm not here to argue if Maribel is good or not as that has been done to death. And what I'm about to say maybe even biased (she was my first event unit)
Why is she so bad? Mine's is miraculously max skilled and I have yet to find anything in the game she can't tank. Granted I am on Nutaku (and have Aisha to lower her cool down) which is why I don't see a problem with her... but like what makes her so undesirable? (I'm very relunctant personally to use Bernice for example)

>> No.15794298

>>15794276
For an expensive class like a heavy, her stats simply don't hold up unless her skill is up. She's inconsistent at best.

Bernice, on the other hand, is great and you should use her, even if as a second heavy if you're dead set on using Maribel, unless you have something completely better. Which there aren't many of. Bernice outshines her rarity.

>> No.15794301

>>15794276
>I am on Nutaku
There's your problem. The only thing that hits even remotely hard on Nutaku was the Greater Demon Lord. And they gave you a unit who nukes 80% of his attack damage off for 120 seconds which instantly turns him into a joke.

>> No.15794322

>>15794276
Nothing, it's just hater or some faggots like to compared her to black units they have for dick waving.
I have her, Bernice and Anya, as freeplayer i always use her and Anya. I don't see the different between her and Bernice on Nutaku tho. It's either enemies's attack is too weak or too strong that effect HP is only matter. Their effect HP isn't much different
>>15794301
When strong monster come, both of them are shit. I never used them on DMM

>> No.15794362

>>15792902
Yes.
http://scre.swiki.jp/index.php?%E6%96%BD%E8%A8%AD#s942f603

>> No.15794478

>>15794362
Do u know the max star u can build?

And in what level you start building high stars?

>> No.15794570

>>15794478
You can get any rarity, up to 7*, at any level.
Raising level just slightly increases chances for higher rarity.

>> No.15794603
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15794603

Which of these two would you give the extra heart first?

>> No.15794608

>>15794603
Lavender is the only option.

>> No.15794624

>>15794603
Go with Lavender, I guess.

>> No.15794629

>>15794570
What? U can get any unit from building?

>> No.15794650

>>15794629
Not any unit, but any rarity. Certain units are gacha-only.
I already gave you link to wiki, just go read it yourself, ffs.
List of shiromusu you can build: http://scre.swiki.jp/index.php?%E7%AF%89%E5%9F%8E#n432a4fe

>> No.15794660

>>15794603
Lavender, always and forever.

>> No.15794665

>>15794650
thanks

>> No.15794688

>>15794276
As the other guy said, she's something in-between a tank and a damage dealer. The problem is that she does it terribly. Her attacks certainly wouldn't hurt most Demons/Youkais/Orcs and her defense allows her to get hurt by things that shouldn't hurt HAs. She still has a ton of HP though.

What's the most damaging enemy you had there on Nutaku? I don't know what >>15794301 is saying, but if it's the fat as fuck demon, then not even Dina could tank him. 5000 damage ain't cool man.

>>15794322
>Nothing, it's just hater or some faggots like to compared her to black units they have for dick waving.
Are you angry that I compared her to Hibari? The guy was asking who to raise and there was a clearly superior "deals decent amount of damage while tanking a good amount" unit in his party. Everyone else was suggesting Leanne which would be the right choice due to her higher defense, lower cost, and she's easier to raise.

>> No.15794740

>>15794688
Yeah, it's the fat demon.

The second-most damaging enemies are probably either BSII's mage demon (who also shows up in the same G map as the greater demon lord), or the giant-ass mummies in Two Pyramids at <25% health.

>> No.15794741

>>15794688
>What's the most damaging enemy you had there on Nutaku? I don't know what >>15794301 is saying, but if it's the fat as fuck demon, then not even Dina could tank him. 5000 damage ain't cool man.

Before I quit, I think it was the demon mage in Base Scramble II with 2200 attack. Don't know what's come up since, but that's all I can think of when they say it's a demon. I know they have eastern maps over there, but I haven't even played through them on DMM yet since my DMM account is only a few months old.

>> No.15794827

>>15794688
>then not even Dina could tank him
You are doing it wrong then, there are plenty of ways to raise her def past 5000.

>> No.15794862

>>15794827
Except the gimmick on the map in question is to halve all your units' stats.

Realistically, you can only tank him once Danchou's dark aura is activated.

Though this is beside the point since the far-easier option is just to range-DPS the fuck out of his fat ass before he moves.

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>>15790092
http://pastebin.com/vYS3icFe

Here is a summary of past maintenance notices for FKG (you can also see that I massively underestimated how long that would be). The garden was implemented on the January of this year, the 100x draw option on March and the daily DMM point reset on June, so if Nutaku is actually on schedule, then you have a very long way until these happen.

But Nutaku can and does break schedule if it looks lucrative, so you can probably ask for that last one to be implemented early. Though well, they also have quite a bit of new content coming up in the next few months, and they may want to tackle that properly instead of going ahead of themselves.

More importantly, looks like we're indeed getting new versions for the Rainlily event's contest winners this week. Too bad I have no flower stones to roll for them, but then again, after last week's double rainbows I probably won't see a gold in the next year or two.

>> No.15795443

>>15794603
These anons are not kidding, Lavender is really THAT good.

>> No.15795496

>>15794608
>>15794624
>>15794660
>>15795443
Yeah, I gave it to her after the first reply, but asked because I've seen so many blondies in my friend's and other's groups, but haven't seen any Lavender yet.

>> No.15795516

Once again, Nutaku FKG doing stuff you'd only know on Discord: http://www.strawpoll.me/11158298

No context given, but the assumption is that it'll decide who the next "buy a 6*" will be.

>>15795246

I am trying very hard to keep Viola Mk II ranked higher than every other 6* I don't have. Devs sure know how to make this difficult.

>> No.15795532
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15795532

Nightmare is on the evasion gacha until next week.

I'll probably spend my pebbles on the new characters, though. They all look so nice this week.

>> No.15795572

>>15795246
Much appreciated.

Yeah, I know Nutaku's been doing their own thing, for better or worse. Still nice to have an idea of how things may look in the next few months.

Should be interesting to see if they'll break schedule to do Halloween/Christmas/etc. on the actual holidays, instead of "always spooky/snowing somewhere".

>>15795516
>Hanamomo first

Good, she's the only other rainbow I really want right now (well, her and Umei).

>> No.15795585
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>>15795532
18 stones to go, then I can try to get desudesu or sweeping Anemone.

>> No.15795626
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15795626

I really wanted Nadeshiko but I guess an Anemone is fine too.

>> No.15795661

For some reason I'm not getting LPC tickets.

>> No.15795668
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15795668

Damn, I thought the gacha was gonna fuck me over as usual. And there it is, my first gacha rainbow and Anemone.

>> No.15795678

Oh man
Elias (エリアス):
Imperial Heal (インペリアルヒール): (30s; attack 2.5x; range shortened [208]; AS: ; WT: ; CT: 45)
Imperial Heal Omega (インペリアルヒールΩ): (s; attack 2.7x; range shortened []; HP halved when skill expires; AS: ; WT: ; CT: )
Imperial Healer's Duty (帝国治癒士の務め): Imperial unit HP +5% and Magic Resist +5 if Elias is a team member.

So unknown parts aside, a range nerf is pretty terrible. Of course, the immense 2.7 atk multiplier will probably make her the best single-target healer in game, but I fear her utility will be much worse than Chydis'

>> No.15795754

>>15793573
>Cloris if you have her, Nenya or Calliope
I don't have Cloris but have Yuyu. As i understand her skill is not that useful, but should I level her instead?
What is general points I should think about when making such decisions?

>> No.15795768

>>15795754
>What is general points I should think about when making such decisions?
Your dick
With the exception of extremely niche units, which are usually plat+ rarity, most units of the same class are more or less equivalent. Pick the one you like more.

You might also want to consider the availability of the unit though. Cloris is constantly available through her revival in large quantities, so its really easy to mincost her, unlike Yuyu, who is a gacha unit.

>> No.15795792

>>15795754
Yuyu's base skill isn't that great but being an elf she has superior attack speed and lower health but that is rarely a concern for witches. Eventually you can SAW her and then she's great at shredding stacks of units being blocked.

>> No.15795803

Has /jp/ ever blinded with rage dumping large amount of SC just to clear that particular map?

>> No.15795804

>>15795803
I refilled for the current subjugation, once
Wasn't worth it since I never managed to kill 500 in the end

>> No.15795811

I'm going to miss the x1.5 gold.
How long it takes them to bring it back?

>> No.15795813

>>15795803
I used 6 SCs for 6 stam map last week
The most frustrated moment was 12 SCs

>> No.15795814
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15795814

How to make good use of rear tacticians? I never use them because ranged slots are limited
From what I heard, Leona is very good in many maps, particularly Majin ones, so I'd like to raise her

>> No.15795849

>>15795814
Think of them as squishy Vampire Hunters.

>> No.15795863

>Has Odette with lv2 skill and -1 cost
>Feed her 4 dupes
>Only gain +1 skill lv and -1 cost
JUST

>> No.15795934

>>15795849
>Vampire Hunters.
Why? I don't think they have comparable damage output

>> No.15796065

>>15795863
That's normal.
I don't even want to remember how much SC I wasted while mincosting Cloris.

>> No.15796068

>>15795803
yes

it's always when I have 30+ sc. I fail to 3* a map for some stupid mistake and I refill to fix my mistake.

then fail again.
this continues until I either brute force my way through or close chrome because fuck this shit fucking fuck

>> No.15796127

>>15796065
It's normal for CR.
But in Odette's skill lv case, there's 50% chance.
3/4 dupes failed to skill up proved statistic is broken.
I don't care about Odette's skill up anyway

>> No.15796157

>>15795246
>5* Wazakita

I'm going in.

>>15795934
It's not as high, but it's not too far behind. I usually switch one in place of a vampire hunter, too. The range is the same, also. They're honestly a perfectly good replacement for vampire hunter in any non-undead map.

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>>15796157
Did four draws, only one had anything beyond silver. And I got both of the other spotlights.

Can't complain too much, I guess. This is my account's first rainbow.

>> No.15796365

>>15795934
They aren't supposed to have comparable damage, thats the whole point, you just put them where you'd put the vampire hunter which has the same range. The point of rear tacticians is the abilitys they bring that boost the whole team.

If they had great damage then they'd be one of the most broken units in the whole game, sorta like the rear tactician Aisha.

>> No.15796562

Is SoraKana dead? Stuck at "Connecting..." screen for me.

>> No.15796724

>>15796562
Still working for me, just take a while because their codes are fucking bloated.

>> No.15796746

>>15795803
No I have never done so. If you do, you are only doing what the game wants you to do, which is to give them money. If I did that, I would feel like I got played.

>> No.15796932
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15796932

What does it mean when you get this when accepting a friend request on FKG? I don't nihongo.

>> No.15796943

>>15796932
I don't either, but the only message I can think of that pops up when accepting a request is that the person who sent it filled out their friend list and can't have any more.

>> No.15796966

What are some tips for Shiropro? Can I get to 15 with just grinding the beginner missions?

>> No.15796990

>>15796966
You can use some gacha gems on stamina refills if you want to reach 15 faster.
Not mandatory tho, I started playing shiropro when campaign started, spent no stones on refills and level 19 already even tho I missed plenty of stamina.
Bought 5 day exp boost tho.

>> No.15797243

>>15796966
There is an auto mode like Aigis so you can level pretty fast. I would say it takes around 2-3 days if you want to wait for stamina refill or within a few hours if you just stamina refill.

Spending the gems on gacha seems better since it helps you clear the later missions, plus I might grow to like the game so I prefer to have some good units in it.

I just clear until the 14sta mission with 2 4* unit + few others low stars, then repeatedly auto clear till 15.

>> No.15797304

>>15795516

Hmm, Hanamomo now in mostly joint 1st place with Anemone and Alpinia on that poll. I guess that's good indication of newer (spending) players who weren't around when those other two were up. Granted Alpinia was never a guarantee before but Anemone certainly was.

>> No.15797328
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15797328

What is this blue button and why have I only just now noticed that it exists?

>> No.15797363

>>15797328
Play the mission again with the story parts.

>> No.15797388

>>15797363
Thanks. I guess that's new with the UI update.

>> No.15797492

I don't like how the new UI becomes non-responsive until it loads the unit sprite

>> No.15797525
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15797525

>4 rainbow fairies
>5/5
Great, now I can SAW her and maybe she finally becomes useful
Also thinking about feeding her Senko

>> No.15797899

>>15797525
killing senko you monster

>> No.15797925
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15797925

>tfw no fluffy tails
I want my stones back.

>> No.15797983
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15797983

Danchou and Echidna are on the next cover. Get hyped. Also, the Sapphire Unit is Nezha's Disciple, Lien.

Class: Monk
Qigong Jutsu (気功術): (20s; attack and defence 1.5x; AS: 58; WT: ; CT: 35)
The same skill as Ling (or Lynn as I believe she's called on Nutaku)

>> No.15798346
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15798346

Alright how do I get them naked? Or rather, how do I play this game? It actually intrigued me in the trial. Anyone play this?

>> No.15798368

>>15798346
What is that game? She looks qt.

>> No.15798382

>>15798368
Striker Girls R18 on DMM, I believe. I was redirected here because apparently this is a mobage general where some people might play dmm games? I have no idea what I'm doing besides the main shit.

>> No.15798785
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15798785

Finally.

>> No.15798806

>>15795668
>>15796343
>>15797925
>>15798785
>all these rainbows

I want my fourth one now.

>> No.15798827

>>15798806
>Having 3 rainbows.
I don't think you should complain anon.

>> No.15798937

Anyone tried the game with the Softhouse-seal girls in it?
ぜったい遵守ぱこぱこカーニバル!!

Noticed it had some characters I recognized from some nukige, but the game looks... not particularly alluring. Was hoping someone had some impressions.

>> No.15798949

>>15798937
I played it for two or three days and was very bored with it.

>> No.15798969

>>15798382
I'm fairly sure there's no 18+ version of this game.

>> No.15799073

>>15798969
It's listed on the DMM R18 site. It's in "Smartphone game" section instead of the pc section that most people here play.

>>15798382
I don't think I ever saw someone talking about it before. You probably have to either wait forever for someone that actually plays it to reply, or learn to read Japanese.

>> No.15799103

>>15799073
>It's in "Smartphone game" section
Ah, explains it then, never checked that section because fuck playing these games on phone.

>> No.15799117

>>15799103
I'd play some on mobile, but I have an iPhone and no adult content support from Apple means no one makes anything for it. It's a shame since I got iPhone over Android because of some exclusive iOS games I wanted (CAVE shmups at the time, Miku Flick, etc.).

>> No.15799970

So, drop event at shiropro.
How bad are the rates for 4* in such events? Should I even bother with it if I'm only level 20?

>> No.15799986
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15799986

Platinum dragon soldier event next up on Aigis
I bet she won't have an AW for a while, just like the gold one

>> No.15800025

>>15799986
>monster girl
>chains

Bondage play on her sex scenes? Win win in my book.

>> No.15800033

>>15800025
Who's getting chained up though, her or the prince?

>> No.15800080

>>15797243
Where is the auto complete mode? I can not find it.

>> No.15800107

>>15800080
Third button after you cleared Hard without any of your girls getting Taiha'ed (Killed in Aigis) or any of the storage boxes destroyed.

>> No.15800118

>>15800107
Damn that is annoying. Which mission is that easiest to do on?

>> No.15800134

> clear videos for shiropro event use 4* level 60 girls for last map
So, I'm fucked if only level 30 and no cost earning stratagem?

>> No.15800162

Is it the ultimate missions that drop petals based off of daily weakness type or am I thinking of something else?

>> No.15800192

>>15800134
I think the girls drop in every map so just spam whatever map you can clear.

>> No.15800390

>>15800162
You'll need to hit the nation missions, which drop the petals for their respective nations. Ultimates just drop fairies of the day's type.

If you haven't done the solo/skill/counter/solar drive challenge maps, there's also a line of quests that give you petals and birds for clearing them.

>> No.15800442

Is there any full set of all of Osawari's CGs/HCGs somewhere?

>> No.15800482

>>15799986
Oh good. A shitty class with ass stats, high cost, and no AW.

Can't wait! Thanks Aigis!

>> No.15800484
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>>15800482
Don't forget this woman. Also an event unit with shitty stats, high cost and no AW(yet)
Meanwhile monster hunters are wrecking shit as soon as they got introduced

>> No.15800492

>>15800484
At least her class offers something that no other class does (on the fly healing/nuking without a skill/toggle).

Dragon soldier is literally just a worse version of soldier without a single benefit. I'd much rather have another event dark priest.

>> No.15800520

>>15800492
Are you new or something? All new classes start w/out AW, they will add it later, and you can judge whether unit is good or not only after SAW is added.
Just look at how long it took them to make AW for dark priests or SAW for mages.

>> No.15800567

>>15800520
This isn't a new class, it's just only recently had units that can AW. I get that.

But it doesn't change the fact that it's still a really shitty class and AW is unlikely to fix that. The stats are bad for the cost and they don't even get an extra block on CC. They're literally useless.

>> No.15800666

>>15800484
She makes my dick hard.

>> No.15800673
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>>15800666
I'm with you

>> No.15800681

>>15800484
Which ones are monster hunters? What makes them so good?

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15800708

>>15800681
The snipers
Immense damage, immense range, barely more expensive than archers, the event one has amazing AW ability(second shot with no cooldown, can proc numerous times in a row)

>> No.15800719

>>15800708
I remember maxing her out because her event was easy. I didn't know she was a good unit since I thought she would only be good against orcs. I guess I should train her thanks.

>> No.15800733

>>15800719
If you maxed her, she's only 10 lvls away from awakening
Just max her affection and she'll already become very useful

>> No.15800873

>>15794079
>Why are you guys expecting a him to have a max skill Maribel or Odette
Max skill up fairy exist, and everyone and their mom suggest that you use it on her because the 16 lvl achievement is nearly impossible to do.

>> No.15800941

With Aigis new UI, where can I look at my current AW orbs?

>> No.15800949

>>15800941
Click the CC/AW button under the Unit menu, then there's a button in the bottom right.

>> No.15800950
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15800950

>>15800941
In CC/AW menu, this button

>> No.15801099
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15801099

>>15800134
You don't have a Shikano?

>> No.15801200

>>15801099
No, its trolling me and giving me 1*s from 1hr+ builds.

>> No.15801284
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15801284

>>15800192
Maybe I'm just lucky but yeah, got her from second map.
Now only 4 more copies for max LB.

>> No.15801438
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15801438

How the hell do I 3medal this event map? There must be a way to hit all the pests.

In the pic is the default setup.

>> No.15801462
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15801462

You guys thought the "use sacred crystal to restore stamina?" pop-up was annoying? Try this instead.

This is the 90/12 Rorone daily. It has been like this for the past hour. Did you want enemies? Nope, fuck you, enjoy 12 hours of stamina going down the drain.

>> No.15801489

>>15801438
2/0/3, if your speeds are right you only have a single spinner to beat.

Also, if you guys are at Canna, that's nearly the last set of "difficult" maps you'll be having. You can take it easy on almost everything afterwards, except a single Wind Valley map in the next event.

>> No.15801642
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15801642

I rolled this girl. Is she useful?

>> No.15801656

>>15799103
Aigis is way easier on phone imo. Though sadly the new interface crashes sometimes on mobile now.

>> No.15801675

>>15801642
Yes, especially if you have good physical damage elsewhere. Her steam tank sounds fun, and her skill awakening is crazy.

>> No.15801679

>>15801642
Her SAW changes her modifiers to 2.5/2.5, allowing her to have nearly 1700 attack without any boosts at AW99.

She also comes with a token that gives 50 HP/sec regen to all allies and -30% defense to all enemies, which also stacks with her alchemist -defense effect.

So yes.

>> No.15801681

>>15801679
>>15801675
Does the token hp regen stack with itself? I don't understand the SAW, it increases the attack and the aoe by 2.5? Is she basically a mage?

>> No.15801686
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>>15801681
She's an alchemist. She does alchemist things.

>> No.15801687

>>15801642
Yes.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29160124

Good job.

>> No.15801703

>>15801686
Is alchemist physical or magical damage?

>> No.15801720

>>15801687
>can only put down one token
What's the point?

>> No.15801728

>>15801720
That one token is a lot better than the typical cannon fodder.

>> No.15801737

>>15801720
Most tokens fucking suck anyway. The only ones that matter are Necromancer's and Ranger's.

>> No.15801828

>>15801737
They should make a black enchanter with an "all damage is true damage for 10 seconds" SAW and a "golem tokens can be healed" AW ability already.

None of the current enchanters ride their golems in their art, which make them inferior to Makina and the dollmasters. They should also fix that.

>> No.15801866

>>15801828
>"golem tokens can be healed" AW ability already.

Make them not cost 45 and have 3 of them so they can be MAYBE USEFUL.

>> No.15801887

>>15801866
Even Riruke's golems come with 6600 EHP at max level. Healability is all they need to be incredibly useful.

They would be able to tank nearly everything tankable in the game, laughing at all majins bar Furfur.

>> No.15802120

I am finally free of the magic city story quests, which quest is the new Oasis II?

>> No.15802199

>>15795516
Wonder which loser is IP vote spamming Alpinia.

>> No.15803463
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15803463

How do you even get girls in this game?

>> No.15803564
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15803564

new gold HA
Pretty hot

>> No.15803614

>>15803463
1. Build them
2. Get them from events
3. Get them from gacha
4. Get them from story missions (both fixed on first clear and random drops on further clears)

>> No.15803615

>>15803463
You're basically still in the tutorial.

>> No.15803618
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15803618

Is she immortal or something?

>> No.15803626

>>15801462
It's a really hard mission if you aren't prepared for it too. Those fairies will tear through an army of awoken blacks if you don't get shoot them down first. I'm glad I skill awakened my Farune.

>> No.15803665
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15803665

Kerry is drying

>> No.15803773

>>15803665
>Kerry

Fucking Nutakufags with their shit translated names. But yes, Carrie is cute.

>> No.15803842

>>15803773
Kerrys cute but Michelles the better valkyrie.

>> No.15803859

>>15803665
Carrie is true heroine

>> No.15803935

>>15803773
Gellius is actually the proper reading, not Julius. :^)

>> No.15804237

>>15795516
>>15802199
Alpinia votes got counted anyway.

Baccara fans get cucked again.

I was gonna get Hanamomo anyway.

>> No.15804344

>running Artillery in the Swamps
>Soma drops from a roper

l-lewd

>> No.15804607

>>15804344
Nice. Here I'm harvesting lowly pirates from wolves' stomachs trying to catch one shape-shifting witch.

>> No.15804798

God fucking damnit!!!!

I had two minutes to start the fucking crystal daily as I just got eight stamina and the pale moon browser gave me an "out of memory". Takes forever to fucking refresh and I try on my phone and get a tsuushin error. Fucking damnit man, these shitty games that run like trash.

>> No.15804804

>>15804798
> not having 16GB+ memory or still running 32-bit browser
Stop being such pleb.

>> No.15804915

>>15804804
I do, except I am travelling so I am stuck with this laptop. Still, 4gb should be enough for shitty browser games.

>> No.15804970

http://www.animate-onlineshop.jp/pd/1417395/

Anyone gonna buy it?

>> No.15805104

Most likely I'm not the only one who stopped clicking gochimusu gacha in futile attempts to get L, so important news: they increased prereg gacha slots from 2 to 3 keep chars, don't forget to roll another HR+!

>> No.15805215

>>15805104
Have any of you even gotten something good? Been at it for 2 weeks and I only have 1 HR; these rates are horrid.

>> No.15805246

>>15805215
Really? It felt like they boosted the rates quite a bit. I'm usually pulling R or HR now, and also get a decent amount of SR.

>> No.15805248

>>15805215
I have 2 same SRs and 1 HR now.
Did you follow them on twitter and retweet their shit for extra rolls?
You can do 68 rolls per day if you follow schedule and use twitter functions.

>> No.15805250

Muvluv got an update, now you can roll shit gach slot 2 times a day and can watch the prologue

>> No.15805261

>>15805248
>>15805246
They increased the rating, I was rolling since the beginning and now I got HRs and SRs all the time, already got 5 SRs I guess and i stopped rolling in the last 2 weeks

>> No.15805288

>>15805248
Yeah, I'm doing about 40 rolls a day. Maybe I'm just unlucky.

>> No.15805550

Why the FUCK doesn't Aigis have an option to roll 10 or such times at once on the lowest tier gacha??
Literally have to fucking grind a goddamn button for silvers when you have some extra gold

>> No.15805715

>>15805550
Don't take my word for it but, I seem to recall someone saying one of it's producers or something not wanting to lessen the value of Iron or Bronze units, making the summon work the same as the premium one. I seem to recall this from quite a long time ago so I might also being remembering it badly, as in 40 or more threads ago.

I do like the iron and bronze units, lore-wise you would think them the backbone of the Prince's army and I have one of each, some maxed, on my barracks. Yet I agree wading though the gacha hunting for a silver once at a time is pretty annoying.

>> No.15805747

>>15805715
That is dumb as hell. You can max the iron/bronze units pathetically easily and much more quickly through mission sorties. Can literally stack up like 20 of each in a matter of a single minute.
Not only that, but they're going to be already at a somewhat decent level, unlike the level 1 gacha ones, that are trash even for exp, and are just recycled into gold for more rolls.
The ONLY purpose the 2k gold gacha has is rolling for silvers when there's no event to grind them on. And that blows ass because with ~3% drop chance it's basically SMASH THAT MOTHAFUCKIN SUMMON BUTTON

>> No.15805760

>>15805747
Yep, I share your pain. I also grunted when I read that comment on the wiki claiming they had stealthily nerfed the drop-rates again a few months ago.

>> No.15805967

Oh god. I dig Southern Cross's design but her AW form... ouch. It's like she went to Brazil or something.

>> No.15805974
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15805974

>>15805967
Don't worry, she remembers to wear her clothes again later.

>> No.15806060

>>15805715

If I recall, it was not the 'value' of them but "I view every unit as a full character, not as a throwaway card".

>> No.15806276

>>15806060
>"I view every unit as a full character, not as a throwaway card".
Ahahahah, how the fuck do you explain sacrificing units to powerup others then, from a lore perspective?

>> No.15806332

>>15806276
The same way you explain having dupes of the same person, or the prince having dialog with someone like Julian if he isn't in your army. It's not canon, you don't.

>> No.15806737

>>15803564
That hammer is practically made for ballbusting.

>> No.15807126

Should I LB 2* event unit in shiropro or use her as fodder for other 2* remodelling?
People on wiki claimed her skill is pretty good (30% up of ki for all units when they retreat or die), but I'm not sure I want to raise 2* miko for it.

>> No.15807137
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15807137

Is it supposed to look like this?

>> No.15807147

>>15807137
Yes.
It uses WebGL, which in turn heavily depends on video card and video card driver capabilities. If you get messy rendering, then you have problem with one of these or your browser is outdated.

>> No.15807179

>>15807147
I see, it might be this shitty laptop.

>> No.15807419

When are we supposed to get those SC from the collab? Will you get it just by being 15+ in both games?

>> No.15807593

>>15807419
According to the banner, the collab ends on the 18th, so sometime then. And yes to your second question.

>> No.15807603

>>15805974
Ah, much better. Could settle for that.

>> No.15807862
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15807862

So it isn't possible to get petals from that map?

>> No.15807930

>>15807862
I don't believe so, but I haven't ran that map much.
You can exchange those blue crystals for some though, if I recall.

>> No.15807945

do i need to AW a witch? can i replace with the chronomancer?(i tihnk she is cute and her time bomb is neat)

>> No.15808010
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15808010

Not bad

>> No.15808013
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15808013

AW max

>> No.15808017
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15808017

>>15806737
Space Jin, is that you?

>> No.15808038
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15808038

hnngh
Saria is so cute

>> No.15808041

>>15807862
So far I only got birds from that map.

>> No.15808106
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15808106

Tried to roll the new femdom HA, but got this woman instead
Can anyone confirm her usefulness? I know her SAW can only be used once in battle, but if she can kill demon wizards in fyrfyr's maps, then thats good enough for me

>> No.15808170
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15808170

>Magic Sword that Splits Heaven and Earth
When did Charlotte get Ea?

>> No.15808179

That event dragon has skill which buffs attack by 20% for all your units. Looks pretty good

>> No.15808322

>>15807126
Just spam normal construction, you will swim in 2* fodders anyway. Keep the event units since you can't get them from construction yet so they are far rarer.

>> No.15808355

Where's the HCG of Ilias?
I need it them for research.

>> No.15808453

>>15807945
Witches do more damage but Chronos slow more. It's up to you.

>>15808106
I could be wrong but isnt her SAW 7 shot that has no cooldown? Either way she is suppose to be one of the best gold units, should be on par with a good plat.

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15808507

>>15795516
Gacha for this is up.

Decent roll for once.

>> No.15808624
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15808624

These stats don't speak too well of a plat unit. She's lucky she has a really good skill, because she looks just as bad as the other two dragon soldiers.

>> No.15808813

>>15808624
> judging unit by level 6 stats
Baka deshou ne?

>> No.15808832

>>15808813
Unit growths are mostly flat percentiles, so level 1 stats will give you a good idea about CC70 stats within the same class.

The problem here is that he's comparing a male unit to a female unit at 0% affection.

>> No.15808879

>>15808832
Ignis is a plat. Affection bonuses are attack and defense. So probably +120/60.

Goraia/whatever has +54 attack from trust.

She's continue to beat him in attack. She'll edge him out in defense, though I can't say how much. Can't say on HP. Looking at the level 8 and 10 copies in my inventory right now, her HP growth is so bad that she still falls short of his at level 1. Looks like she'll be level 13 before she matches his since she seems to gain 15 HP for every 2 levels.

>> No.15808947
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15808947

Cancer starting asking for breaks on FKG too, Nutaku community surely got some shit players isn't?

>> No.15808957

>>15808947
luckily they're going to be strictly following the japanese release

>> No.15809053

>>15808957
>luckily they're going to be strictly following the japanese release
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.15809075

>>15808957
In event schedule yes, but in everything else Nutaku is definitely playing its own tune. The EN FKG engine started at around the sixth month mark, for starters, so you've gotten searches, quests and various other conveniences early on, but you're also lagging behind when it comes to ultimate maps and the beginner's campaign rewards (a whole bunch of flower stones, fairies, affection items and a 5* ticket as the capstone, all of which were also gifted to existing players), both of which should've been added in the past month (so you might want to whine a bit about these). I don't think you guys had any gold up or great success rate up events either, though you should've had one of each.

Nutaku's schedule will also tighten quite a bit in the near future, if they intend to match what the JP version did: Nation defense maps and character quests begin then, and revivals follow on the next month, so they'll have to add a set of ultimate maps (plus the two sets they didn't add), two nation defense maps, two revival events and around 16 character quests per month, in addition to the regular events. We'll see if they can handle the load, though kudos to them if they can.

Most importantly, DMM FKG gave out around 250 flower stones in "thank you" campaigns during its first five months of service (plus 50 or so more as maintenance apologies), while Nutaku had virtually nothing on that front so far. It's a surprise that you guys aren't campaigning to bring these over.

>> No.15809207

>>15809075
I can't imagine most people who know about the DMM content give a shit when they can just play there and have a much better experience.

>> No.15809236

>>15809053
So far they are doing it, what's the problem?

>> No.15809242

>>15809207
Playing a collection game and not understanding any of the story or what new things do without asking is hardly a better experience.

>> No.15809279

>>15809242
Well, that certainly didn't work out for Kanpani Girls players in Nutaku server.

>> No.15809303

>>15808355
どうぞ
http://assets.millennium-war.net/347ac8e5c029ae02029544393e16b881357b1645/9cf194689069e63bf38f126db3c06cc9

http://assets.millennium-war.net/347ac8e5c029ae02029544393e16b881357b1645/2e666fb87ecf682a568337a55ec66712

>> No.15809310

>>15809242
I meant that nobody is going to care about Nutaku when they can just play on DMM and play the full game.

>> No.15809315

>>15809303
Is anyone ripping the text anywhere? I don't want to OCR everything just for a machine translation
Also interested in the standing portraits, could only find the CG on panda

>> No.15809330

>>15809315
I don't think anyone else is, but I can if you want.

And there already is a chara gallery (2, actually.)
https://exhentai.org/g/969508/3ae8268c26/
https://exhentai.org/g/969512/1b9655c8ee/ (post-UI update made them bigger)

>> No.15809340

>>15809207
I tried the DMM version. It gave me a headache. Too much stuff, too many girls, the language barrier is mostly just annoying since I can read moonrunes okay, but it still gets in the way of just enjoying a browser game. Overall I decided I'd much rather start small and work my way up, and have the convenience of it all being in English, even if the English is sometimes questionable.

Anyway, people deserve to have Nutaku supply them with a good game, the full game, and not gimping on anything because 'well they can just go play the DMM version'. I'd much rather hold Nutaku responsible for delivering a quality product. That's what they should be doing; that's how it should be.

>> No.15809341

>>15809279
Kanpani is a pretty extreme case though.

We joke about Aigis breaks spelling its doom all the time, but it still has actual gameplay over Kanpani.

>>15808947
absolutelydisgusting

>> No.15809367

>>15809075
Nobody really expects Nutaku to be generous with FGs, so nobody asks for it. Instead we have way more guaranteed rainbow gachas that people actually ARE willing to throw down for, so free stuff doesn't cross anyone's mind.

Besides that, more people are interested in actual future content or various quality of life changes. Like, I could see more people campaigning for removing common drops on 80-stam maps and Nutaku making that change soon, despite it being pretty recent in DMM.

>> No.15809369

>>15809330
Oh, thanks
I can't say for others, but I would be very interested in the text of events, both all-ages and R versions

>> No.15809450

>>15809369
https://mega.nz/#!vtkARCKI!X-9N5S1oIOswPZJcIKuGbu6HWW93r1uVIIoAz7kTrDQ

You can probably tell, but the naming scheme is by character ID, so 001_HarlemText_016_0.txt refers to Chara ID 16 (Bella) Scene 1. You'll have to use one of the galleries for reference.

I should probably make an ID list...

>> No.15809494

>>15809450
Wow, that was fast. Much obliged.

Also
>Harlem
Every time

>> No.15809533

>>15809367
>Nobody really expects Nutaku to be generous with FGs, so nobody asks for it.
Well, I do! I still marvel at the idiots who thought 10-20 flower stones for the popularity contest cancellation was a great reward, even though DMM FKG handed out 120 stones plus a mountain of other goods for an error not half as damning.

That aside, it's still a big cause of concern that they're willing to take FKG, a game that is popular largely because its devs have a reputation for good user service, and treat it like one of these money grab card games. It's like having an EN Kancolle that makes the hotels into pay-only options, you can't expect EN FKG to survive as long as the JP version if you go for fast profit and nothing else.

But I guess long-term survival was never really on Nutaku's agenda, since their current model brings plenty of profit and they can always acquire another big game (Kamipro? Shiropro? X-OverD?) when the hype runs out.

>> No.15809627

>>15809533
Kamipro seems like an obvious choice if they want to go full cash grab to their heart's content. Though I aren't sure about how much butthurt Nutaku players are when it comes to rape and NTR stuff.

>> No.15809809

>>15809533
I don't think anyone was satisfied with the popularity contest regardless. Anyone informed, anyway. Might be confirmation bias, but with posts like >>15808947, it does feel like the general Nutaku FB community is much dumber than the average DMM player.

That said, I can't really see Nutaku FKG as being more P2W so much as "less freemium friendly".

Though the specifics of Nutaku's marketing model is anyone's guess. DTM and DS were basically out of their hands, and who knows what the fuck is going on with Kanpani, but the damage control from LoV's closure moving to Aigis was pretty real. I'd say it's not that Nutaku doesn't have long-term plans and more that few games in their control are actually in danger of closing, regardless of traffic. You'd think Saga, Hitsuji, and Quiz would be dead by now, but all of those still get updates.

>> No.15809828

>>15809627
If anything, there's probably a ton of players who are tired of vanilla.

The bigger issue is Nutaku censoring rape tones in the dialogue. I have to wonder how much of Lechenaultia's scene was rewritten to handwave the fact that Danchou literally forces himself on her to make her forget about her first love.

>> No.15810597

>>15808947
Not sure if Nutaku or the faggot himself removed the comment, but it seems to be gone now.

>> No.15810647

>>15810597
He got flamed by a lot of guys, i didn't expected such a thing from the FB community frankly.

>> No.15810685

>>15810647
When his reasoning is "sorry I want to take time to do story/daily missions", he deserves all the flames he can get.

>> No.15810702 [DELETED] 

>>15809828
>I have to wonder how much of Lechenaultia's scene was rewritten to handwave the fact that Danchou literally forces himself on her to make her forget about her first love.
Not much, it's nearly intact, just some word changes that are synonym but everything else is as it is in DMM FKG, Danchou forcing her way because she talks only about her past love.

>> No.15810707

>>15810702
That's honestly surprising.

Not something I'd expect from the original FKG.

>> No.15810715

>>15809828
>I have to wonder how much of Lechenaultia's scene was rewritten to handwave the fact that Danchou literally forces himself on her to make her forget about her first love.
Not much, it's nearly intact, just some word changes that are synonym but everything else is as it is in DMM FKG, Danchou forcing his way in, because she talks only about her past love.

>> No.15810897

>>15810715
Damn that is one of the few scenes if not the only one I really didn't like, it was total downer that she keep talking about how danchou resembled her first love then danchou procced to "erase her memories about him" with his penis, also near the end he keep ramming her until she admited danchou was better (although only product of brutality)
I wasn't expecting that, I really liked Lena a lot and was specting a hot yet lovable H scene.

>> No.15811575
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15811575

Long, long ago, deep in a forest, there was a hidden village where tiny creatures lived. They called themselves Manyus. They were good. Then there was Danchou, the evil knight. He was bad....Well, the forest is still there. And if you listen, you may hear Danchou's rage. And if you are good, you may just catch a glimpse of... the Manyus.

>> No.15811580

>>15811575
I just noticed that too, despite fighting raid bosses for days now.

You can occasionally see an ampy pop out instead.

I'm not used to things that aren't NZN popping up in the background.

>> No.15811753

When do we get the 30 SC from shiropro?

>> No.15811764

>>15811753
Read the fucking announcement, it specifies the date.

>> No.15811865

4 fucking 10+1 rolls on fkg dmm and 2 golds, one being a dupe
one pull was all coppers
fuck this game

>> No.15812011

>>15811865
Im at 12 11x pulls and only have 2 golds to show. Had to buy my only rainbow. At least i could choose. She is a raep train on a broom.

>> No.15812226

Chapter 3 of FKG manga is up.

http://www.comic-clear.jp/comic.aspx?c=56

Back at the academy this time focusing on the yuri adventures of Apricot and Japanese Mugwort. Odd choices... Any DMM experts want to explain these two?

There's also cameos of Strawberry, Canola, Yuki Yanagi, and Cyani at the start, as well as Mistletoe at the end.

Someone who can actually read moon can probably elaborate better than me.

>> No.15812538

Why did they nerf the archangel?
This 12sta map is pretty boring

>> No.15812541

>>15786622
Idol wars > all the other garbage

>> No.15812574

>>15812541
idol wars isn't even good though

>> No.15812829

>>15812541
Idol Wars is Dragon Providence with idols, 0 gameplay and just p2w.

>> No.15812844

>>15812829
You do have to admit though that the awakened versions of idols look pretty neato.

Will probably quit it soon though. I have too many other things in my day that I want to do and having Dream Fests guarantee at the minimum 1 hour of my day gone.

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>>15812226
Apricot wants to become a doctor under Nandina (wise move, I don't want to know what the witch sisters would do to a girl as pure as her) while Mugwort already works with her as a herbalist, as we've seen in the last chapter. They're already good friends by the time they show up in the game, but looks like this is their first meeting.

As far as I can see, Apricot travels to Bergamot Valley to complete her report on medicine after finding out that there's a ton of medicinal plants there, meets Mugwort on the way, gets more than what she bargained for.

>> No.15812879

>>15812844
I've played DP for quite some time, i've tryied IW out of curiosity.

The feeling of Déjà vu was simple to much to handle, i've quitted in 10 minutes and never opened again.

>> No.15813572

Nutaku is down right now?

>> No.15813593

>>15813572
Twitter, 8 mins ago.

We are experiencing some technical difficulties. Please allow us some time to fix the server issues. We apologize for any inconvenience!

>> No.15813816

>>15812857
whos butt am I mirin?

>> No.15813858

>>15813816
I thought she switched to her arms in the second panel, provoking some envy or desire for her dangling fruits. Where do you see a butt anon?

>> No.15814658

Is Hibari worth using if she's only skill level 2?

>> No.15814668

>>15814658
Yes. And in a year you'll be able to very easily skill her up thanks to Revival Skill Fairies.

>> No.15814674

>>15814668
What about her cost? She's a big girl right now. Isn't a year pretty far away?

>> No.15814681

>>15814674
An extra couple CR isn't that important on a unit that costs almost 30 already. CR is mostly just important on units like Soldiers, Archers, Witches, and Rogues.

>> No.15814754

>>15814668
>And in a year you'll be able to very easily skill her up thanks to Revival Skill Fairies.
Since the daily revival thing, we haven't gotten any other kind of revival, also the last black rarity revival was Liana...so maybe in 3 years or so.

>> No.15815062

>>15814754
This daily revival thing was really not a blessing.

>> No.15815167

>>15815062
150+ SC out of nowhere was not a blessing?

Besides, we've probably getting the traditional Anya revival for the anniversary.

>> No.15815176

>>15815167
I used the 150+ SC now the revival is just a waste of time except for a few special ones.

>> No.15815400

>>15815062
It was for me as a newish player, but now I'd like the actual revivals back, please. There are still a bunch of event units I want that aren't farm types.

>> No.15815644

>>15815176
>I used the 150+ SC
So did I, and the plats I've gotten from them are much better than what two months' worth of traditional revivals would've given me.

>> No.15815721

>>15815176
Considering they give you units that you can sell for rainbow crystals, not a complete waste.

>> No.15815768

>>15815167
>Anya revival for the anniversary.
I really hope so, and I really expect that some kind of bug happens like always and we end with an extra time fairy.

>> No.15816078

Is it worth rerolling in Flower Knight Girl? And if so is there a list of characters I should be looking out for?

>> No.15816215

>>15816078
I believe it took about 2-3 weeks for one of the guys who rerolled to get a rainbow, took him about 600 rerolls too.
As for who to aim for, any rainbow will do, most who tried it gave up and settled for a single gold.

To sum it up, don't bother rerolling for a rainbow.

>> No.15816231

>>15816078
Not really, since golds are aplenty and rerolling for a rainbow is a world of pain. You can try for a gold, though, as it's not very time-consuming.

As for girls you'd want to shoot for, ultimate maps are the only vaguely difficult part of FKG (whale maps are somewhat tough too, but they work under different mechanics), so "high-tier" girls are these who perform well in them. Here's a preliminary attempt to rank existing girls for these maps, though keep in mind that this is open to debate.

S: All rainbows, Cymbidium
A+: Justicia, Lavender, Anemone (shrine maiden)
A: Golds with area skills (Camellia, Convallaria, Violet, Cosmos, Toadlily, Chocolate Cosmos, Iris, Setaria, Hypericum, Lupine, Queen-of-the-Night, Japanese Iris, Sarcandra, Poppy, Shion Aster, Cattleya (swimsuit), Water Hyacinth) or two-target/multi-hit skills in conjunction with attack reduction (Dahlia, Pitahaya, Greenbell) and skill up abilities (Laurentia, Oxydendrum, Apple, Kale, Lily, Balloonvine, Heather, Aloe, Oxalis, Flowering Peach (bride), Dogwood (yukata))
B: Other golds with two-target/multi-hit skills, or with single-target skills and attack reduction/skill up abilities
C: Everyone else

Also, go up a tier if your girl has a second evolution implemented. That said, FKG isn't a difficult game in general, so you should really ignore this list and go for whomever you find to be the cutest.

>> No.15816289

>>15816231
So think with the dick?

>> No.15816702

>>15816289
Definitely. Even low-ranking golds can become ultimate-worthy with investment, and if the girl you like is a grass, bronze or silver, ampules and equipment will put her on par with event golds at the very least.

They also recently implemented a questionnaire about which low-rank girl you'd like to see as a gold (among other things), so popular girls like Mint, Cyclamen, Strawberry and Royal Princess may also get new forms in the future. This system was removed after it caused server problems, but it may get reintroduced this week.

>> No.15817032

>>15815400
They didn't get rid of those revivals, they're just slow to come around. Karma hasn't had a revival in nearly 2 years now.

>> No.15817113

>>15817032
They effectively did. There hasn't been one since what? Sandra? It's been way too long since one.

>> No.15817117

>>15817032
We didn't have even single one since introduction of daily revivals.

>> No.15817123

>>15817113
Yea, I've been wondering how the collection and star revivals will work. There are units I really want to CR within those events.

>> No.15817145

I was actually talking about this with a friend the other day.

I think we should keep the farming units to the dailies, keep the collection units to the old revival system, and then put the star trial units in as drops in ongoing events.

I think that's fair and it helps keep them all cycling through pretty regularly. No 2 year Karma revival gaps when you don't have as many old-style revivals to cycle through.

>> No.15817169

>>15817117
I think they have the idea they'll be doing one revival at a time and that slot has been occupied by majin revivals. Not as if I think I can handle Furfur level 10 any time soon.

>> No.15817174

http://www.nutaku.net/blog/nutaku-sekai-project/

Relevant, though fuck Shit Project and all that.

I'll believe it when I see uncensored Maitetsu.

>> No.15817211

>>15817174
> Maitetsu
> from company who censored Noel
Not happening.

>> No.15817246

>>15817174
It will all be invisible.

>> No.15817414

>>15816231
Do the increased skill activation abilities stack? Or should I just have one per party.

>> No.15817420

>>15817414
They stack

>> No.15817421

>>15817414
They stack.

>> No.15817563

>>15817174
>Sekai Project has built a reputation as one of the best companies for delivering quality translations
Nutaku: Delivering most insane lies with straight face the company.

>> No.15817636

>>15817563
Well, Nutaku isn't that much better than Sekai Project, so maybe they don't know any better.

>> No.15818363

Without being able to sum all the votes like last collection event on Nutaku FKG I don't have the faintest idea how many I already have. How do you guys keep count? If there is a counter I really can't find it.

>> No.15818369

>>15818363
There is one, just keep hitting event banners till you find it.

>> No.15818426

>>15818369
Thanks. Had to allow java-script twice in the page for that little window to appear. Weird.

1207. Still many to go. Hopefully second phase has those ticket gardens to speed it up.

>> No.15818461

>>15818426
I checked the wiki ahead of time. It does. Thankfully.

>> No.15818616

Once again, another Aigis doujin has dawned on the panda. And yes, this time there is a futa tag anon. You know who you are . Plenty of girls so something for everybody I guess.

>> No.15819112

How is the DMM Aigis event unit? She does not look that pretty.

>> No.15819137

>>15819112
20% global att when skill is activated. That is pretty enough.

>> No.15819211

>>15819137
How much is that?

>> No.15819246

>>15819211
20% global att..What is there to not understand? Are you new to aigis buff, skills or something?

>> No.15819325

new thread
>>15819324

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