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Umineko thread
beato
>>15655997Dlanor
>>15655998BEATO
>>15656006Dlanor
Bernkastel should be spanked.Rika should have a happy ending and a long life.
>>15656132Bern is a jerk!
>>15656147Word!A huge jerk!
Can someone explain what bernkastel met by this?
>>15656176That's simple.Beatrice keep playing forever, and once she win, she stops the game.That's why she drowns after escaping the island.
>>15656207it says in exchange for never being saved or rewarded. who did beatrice make a deal with? also is beatrice really the culpirt? it says even if beatrice does nothing the tragedy still happens
>>15656220When she died in 1986, a "meta" version of her broke off and she made a deal with Lambdadelta, who made her a witch.
>>15656220I don't know. I just finished the VN, and I always was under the impression she did it herself, and only got Lambdadelta's support once the game was set to keep Battler busy while 34 brought the spankable cat loli.I hate Bernkastel so damn much.
>>15656220>who did beatrice make a deal with?Lambda
We all know it, and yet, someone still don't believe that magic is real.
>>15656256So basically beatrice made a deal with lambda to become a witch as long as everyone dies? how is lambda/ bernkastel influencing the game? and what is beatrice motive for becoming a witch
>>15656316>what is beatrice motive for becoming a witchMaking sure Battler ultimately remembers her.>how is lambda/ bernkastel influencing the game?By adding original character donut steel like the Mary-Sue bitch.>So basically beatrice made a deal with lambda to become a witch as long as everyone dies?That's the idea, through the VN suggested something else.
>>15656316No, Labdadelta said herself that Beatrice would be a witch regardless.
>>15656316Beatrice only has Lambdadelta's support as long as her game is interesting enough to keep Buttkastel busy.
>>15656316In Lambda's Diary (http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Lambda's_Diary)) it details her encounter with Beatrice.
Why is ep1 the spookiest shit ever?
>>15656482https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4xsax5gQQo
>>15656482Because it's actually good. The moment Ryukishi adds all the meta shit and actually shows Beatrice, all the tension goes away.
>>15656458It's shown in the manga as well, but it's a bit shorter
>>15656500I don't like how it's presented there, with her just setting for acknowledgement, when in Lambda's Diary that's all she wants from the beginning.
>>15656490Hmm, yeah I have always thought so. Just finished re-reading Legend of the Golden Witch and it still scares the shit out of me. So many spooky things like Natsuhi's door, Maria singing while facing the wall, the first and the second twilight, etc....still made me shit myself after all these years.Now onto Turn of the Golden Witch, from what I remember I found this one really weak when I first read it, well maybe my opinion will change now.
What is the inescapable fate yasu talks about? Is it that she's furniture and can never love?
>>15656544No dick.
Why does everyone hate him?I really don't understand, I mean he isn't my favorite character but he is far, far from worst.
Okay, so I finished Ange's animation. I decided to keep it basic this time.
>>15656458lol this is kind of confusing to me.. basically lambda did nothing?
>>15656544He is the nutless, cockless wonder of the twentieth century!
>>15656578You are doing the Lord's work in his year of 2016.
I wonder if this was retconned intentionally or if Ryukishi just forgot
>>15656647That just means no one knew that Battler wasn't actually asumus son
>>15656587Well, she agreed to be her 'guardian', whatever that entails.
I decided to make an alternate Ange animation that's a bit more creative.
>>15656869there is alot about beatrice being "trapped/ a bird in a cage" due to lambda /bernkastel . or at least im assuming.. the story seems to point that out a few times. so im guessing lambda is effecting beatrice choice of moves
>>15656881Change her expression to one where she's angry, like he's being humiliated by being forced to jump up and down.
>>15657267Better if she's standing still and being groped instead.
>>15656881Also, no one might have noticed, but nice job not adding any skirt or pantsu.
>>15656575He was fat in the original VN.The anime made him a bishonen because "NO FATTY ALLOWED".Also he's a dick toward Eva who had a pretty rough childhood, and he's pretty selfish too.
>>15656575
>>15656575︀
>>15657556>>15657560That's impressive.
>>15657267>>15657270Thanks for the feedback. I tried combining your suggestions. It turns groping motions are a lot more complicated than bouncing ones, or at least, I haven't found a method that works consistently. Let me know what you think.>>15657292Thanks, I wasn't sure if anyone would spot that. It was supposed to look like she's having sex outside the frame, but it's not quite there yet.
>>15657688>angrily getting gropped and unable to resistArghh, all me fetishes in one. It's perfect.
>>15657693Any other requests? I'm currently working on Ange's nude edit as my main project, but these animations don't take too long.
>>15657703Can you you do Barnkastel getting spanked? Or just nudes and physics stuff?
>>15657718There are no sprites of her butt so...
>>15657732Well, damn. Thanks anyway.
>>15657736Obsessions destroys reason.
>>15657761That's what I said two threads when I used that as a reason to explain why Eva doesn't act logically.Everyone understood it as "lol woman are emotional kek", even through I am guilty of the same sin than Eva.Eva wanted to prove herself to her father.I want to spank Bernkastel's butt.Two different obsessions, and yet we have nothing in common.
>>15657770>even through I am guilty of the same sin than Eva.Then I'm going to say something sexist but which aptly describes you. Stop acting like a woman.>Two different obsessions, and yet we have nothing in common.Sure it does, they're obsessions, and as mentioned, they destroy reason.
>>15657773How ironic that my manhood is the thing keeping me from acting logically.Not just obsessions, though. One of Umineko's main theme is how they can easily explain things by staying calm but fail to.For the pawns, it's pretty understandable, they're stuck on an island with siblings they may hate, and they're all dying. But for the meta Battler, it's unforgiveable.When the pawn Battler is calmed down by Erika, he manages to solve the riddle pretty quickly. The thing that fucks im up most of the case is his stubborness to try to explain things with a half-baked theory. The little bombs thing is one of these.
>>15657778Sex is fueled by pasion.Passion leads to emotion, emotions leads to irrationality, irrationality leads to.. suffering
>>15657820And Rokkenjima is full of passion.
>>15657826So Rokkenjima is like a brothel 10 minutes before opening time?
>>15657831I said passion, not sexual tension.
>>15657834Both are fuels for sex.
>>15657778You're simply too focused one side of duality, degeneracy, to be in tuned with the other side; rationality.
>>15657881Wanting to spank a smug brat is hardly degeneracy. It's just discipline.And payback for the small trauma I got when she started laughing and making faces.
>>15657881Your rightRational Degeneracy is where it's at
>>15657885Now you're getting it. The synthesis of duality. It's how you transcend life and duality itself, becoming unity.
>>15657884Please, that's just the rationality you've given to yourself to describe your base desires. >I-I don't just want to spank her, I'm doing it for her own good, for discipline!You can't fool me.
>>15657956I wouldn't want to spank her if she wasn't the murderous, arrogant, smug and manipulative witch we all know.You don't see me wanting to spank Satoko despite all the shit she causes in the game, because she has a really hard life.Bernkastel is just a bitch for the sake of being a bitch. Which is highly ironic, given she's a cat.
>>15657966Excuses excuses. You run away from the far end of degeneracy with excuses. Not even good excuses at that. Rather than indulge yourself in all manners of spanking, you give yourself excuses and conditions. How boring. But this isn't surprising considering we all have our hidden hypocrisy. >You don't see me wanting to spank Satoko despite all the shit she causes in the game, because she has a really hard life.Of course not, Bernkastel is not Satoko. But this just proves that you have not fully developed a spanking fetish and are just focused on Bernkastel's butt. Every excuse is simply an attempt to mask your degenerate nature.>because she has a really hard life.What an amusing lie. Or perhaps an omission? But I doubt it considering how many times I explained the birth of Bernkastel.Bernkastel had a hard life as well, even worse than Satoko. What a boring contradictory excuse, you just want to spank a haughty personality and spank that haughtiness out of them. Rather than spank all indiscriminately, enjoying particularly those with haughty attitudes, you only focus on Bernkastel.>Bernkastel is just a bitch for the sake of being a bitch.And Satoko doesn't? Does she not act like a spoiled annoying brat just for the sake of it as well?I wonder if you would spank Ange's butt? Probably not, giving some funny excuse for not doing so.Boring boring boring. I see right through you and duality lays bare your intent.
Anyone have that Umineko /adv/ screencap handy?
>>15658008You're so intent on bullying Anon and shaming them, you're the true degenerate here! How does it feel to look down upon them while picking apart their post? Does it bring you a perverse joy? Are you waiting for their response, trying to contain your anticipation? Do you hope they flounder to get the moral high ground or would you rather they submit to your reasoning and their own flaws and claim themselves to be degenerate?
>>15658008>But this just proves that you have not fully developed a spanking fetish and are just focused on Bernkastel's buttSo what?>What an amusing lie. Or perhaps an omission?I dunno. Satoko pretty much killed her parents, was adopted and beaten by her uncle, her brother disappeared, and she dies being tortured to death by Shion.>Bernkastel had a hard life as wellYet Satoko takes pleasure in playing with her friends and bullying Keiichi. Bernkastel take pleasure in watching people falling into despair before killing each others. I'd say that makes Bernkastel a little less sympathetic than Satoko.And there's also the fact that there are pictures depicting Satoko getting spanked.>you just want to spank a haughty personality and spank that haughtiness out of themBut this is how it works. Accept it or not, but the personality affects one's opinion of a girl. If Bernkastel acted like Maria, I would find her annoying but I wouldn't want to spank her. Especially once the game starts detailling her backstory and how she was left alone most of the time with only her plushie toy to comfort her.>And Satoko doesn't? Does she not act like a spoiled annoying brat just for the sake of it as well?Satoko only does mostly harmless jokes, and act this way because Keiichi looks exactly like Satoshi. Bernkastel figuratively throw people down a pit with one knife and tell them only one will be allowed to get out.>I wonder if you would spank Ange's butt?No, because she's not a little girl. Would you spank Featherine or Rosa? Would you spank Erika or Cornelia?>>15658032What screencap?
>>15658052That reminds me I forgot to grab the sprites last thread. Fuck.
>>15658053>What screencap?The one from /adv/. If you had it you'd know what I was talking about.
>>15658052>Does it bring you a perverse joy?Of course it does. In the Trick Ending of ep 8, Ange revels in the fact that exposing the hidden truth is extremely gratifying. But the real gratifying truth is to make other people see your truth. To open your eyes to your worldview, your perversion. Unknoting hypocrisy is the greatest gratification of truth. In that sense, perhaps I have transcended even the Witch of Truth.You can see it in his excuses, his reluctance to fully throw himself into the nihilistic and hedonistic void of degeneracy. Even within his own fetish of spanking, he only limits himself to Bernkastel with faulty reasoning and logic on his own ground. This greater understanding of duality allows me to have a leg up over him. Duality is above truth.
>>15658076Bern's butt is over anything you can come up with.
>>15657556>>15657480>>15657560Oh okay, so it is because of memes only. Gotcha.
Post top-tier seacats music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfs33v0Xb60
>>15658076Understanding Anon's duality is compassion.
>>15658154Just report and ignore.
>>15658154duality vs optimism who win
>>15658157Literally kill yourself
>>15658057Which sprites? I might have them.
>>15658171These oneshttps://www.mediafire.com/?nx7jbx84zr29k
>>15658171All the playstation 2 sprites. Someone posted them last thread and I forgot to grab them.>>15658175Thanks.
Wow, the Chiru released really buffed the goats, by the way.Can't say I really like it, I preferred them being slender and thinner. It made them more eerie, since they were described as being insanely strong despite having frail frames.
>>15658214The VN describes them as both. In some scenes they're described as people in goat masks, and in other scenes they're described as looking like minotaurs
>>15658053>So what?So why not spank everyone indiscriminately? Why Bernkastel only? The answer is simple. Her butt. You focus so much on spanking that you have to see the trees to understand the abstract of the forest. It's the butt that you are focused on rather than the fetish and the sex. You see, like rape, nearly all of sexual actions can be traced back to power, in one sense or another, or its equal exchange of power when it involves vanilla. Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power. Duality also requires absolutism. You must either commit yourself fully or not at all. Rape or not rape. Spank all or spank none. Because it's more fun that way.Because if you ignore spanking, and focus sole on the butt, degeneracy allows for idealization of all extremes. Licking, kissing, scratching, teeth marks. cum on her butt, cheek rubbing, and of course spanking. But if you push that extreme, it becomes a slippery slope to everything else concerning degeneracy. First it's her butt, then it's humiliating her, then it's rape, then it's breaking her soul. And ultimately, destruction. That's why it has to be absolute.>I dunno. Satoko pretty much killed her parents, was adopted and beaten by her uncle, her brother disappeared, and she dies being tortured to death by Shion.I was talking about Bernkastel. You're playing the pity card on Satoko and ignoring Bernkastel's past, as I said, either out of omission or by lie, since we had a discussion about Bernkastel's birth in the past three threats. >Yet Satoko takes pleasure in playing with her friends and bullying Keiichi. Bernkastel take pleasure in watching people falling into despair before killing each others.Intensity has nothing to do with anything. One would argue simply that Bernkastel 'deserves' it more compared to Satoko, but not that Satoko doesn't deserve spanking. She has a haughty attitude which is absolutely worth spanking and breaking.>I would find her annoying but I wouldn't want to spank her.Boring. You wouldn't spank her every time she goes Uuuu Uuuu? Having her scream Uuuu Uuuu while you're spanking her, with Rosa next to you urging you to keep spanking her until she changes? You have so little imagination. Personality only affects the intensity and desire to destroy and corrupt. Bernkastel does deserve to be more broken than Maria, but not by virtue of her actions but by the level of difficulty. What worth would spanking Bernkastel do if it does not affect her? What if turning her butt red create zero reaction? The greatest break of a dandere is for her to develop emotions, slightly showing a spark until you expand it and she becomes broken to the point where she can only think about dick. Spanking, on its own, acheieves nothing but personal boring gratification. This is why I say it is boring.>Would you spank Featherine or Rosa? Would you spank Erika or Cornelia?Absolutely. I would spank all their butts. And more, of course. >>15658165Optimism is a side of Duality. Therefore Duality wins.
>>15658238I'm talking about their frame. In Chiru, they look like they're wearing spandex looking like a tuxedo, and they're arched. In the original VN, they were standing straight, and despite towering over others characters, they seemed pretty fragile.>>15658265>in the past three threatsYou mean threads?
>>15654557Better luck next time.>>15658265 I thought you were banned.
>>15658268>You mean threads?Yes, my bad.
>>15658265>So why not spank everyone indiscriminately? Why Bernkastel only?Because Bernkastel has all the "qualities" required to be spankable : she's small, somewhat cute, and is a real bitch.Lambdadelta starts as a bitch, but sometimes act as an ally, and gives very valuable advice to Battler as he's about to get locked in the closet, on top of standing against Featherine (and getting SO FUCKING REKT in the process).>I was talking about Bernkastel.You mentionned others characters and asked why I was so focused on Bernkastel. I picked Satoko as an example of another "little girl does bad stuff" character.>we had a discussion about Bernkastel's birth in the past three threatsI won't yield to threat. Bern's ass is mine.>Intensity has nothing to do with anythingI disagree. Bernkastel's actions have led 18 people to death several times, and she did so without giving them any respect.Beatrice caused, directly or indirectly everyone to die several time, but she didn't played with them like Bernkastel and Erika did, especially Erika, who mutilated their bodies. But the difference is that both Erika and Beatrice paid the price. Beatrice always die at the end, and find herself unable to escape Rokkenjima even when dragged kicking and screaming by Battler, and Erika get killed. And it was a touching scene.>You wouldn't spank her every time she goes Uuuu Uuuu?As strange as it sounds, I don't really enjoy beating kids. I would totally slap Rosa in the face for how she treated her daughter though. I'd spank Bernkastel because she's a bitch witch, but Maria is just... I dunno, she has it too rough with her unadequate wreck of a mother.>What worth would spanking Bernkastel do if it does not affect her? What if turning her butt red create zero reaction?I don't believe her body can react to the spanking while she herself doesn't feel any pain. That wouldn't make any sense, people and witches aren't meant to be insensible to pain. If it happens to be the case, I'll probably spank her harder.>Absolutely. I would spank all their butts.Even Ange, who had a shitty childhood and had to make even more imaginary friends than Maria? Even Beatrice, with her frilly dress that you can't reasonably raise not to mention she's quite slow due to being inbred? Even Rosa, which is the bitchiest bitch that isn't a witch and got hitched? Even Zepar, who may or may not be a trap?
Go be boring somewhere else. I understand you are very excited about this new thoughts inside your head about duality, optimism and self-improvement. What? Did you find a new book? It always a nice feeling to find a new way to see life when your bored of the old one, but I'm kind of sick of it, and I'm not interested in reading always a whole argument about spanking by two virgins.
Especially of one which dick doesn't even work.
>>15658268Not Chiru, Umitweak.
>>15658300>new thoughtsPlease, duality has been inside my head since I was a kid. It's only when I learned more that I was surprised by how I was actually right about everything.The only thing new is perhaps that I've posted my views a bit more.
>>15658349Meant for >>15658303
>>15658349Not sure what it has to do with anything I said, but okay.
>>15658355I know, just teasing. You repeat yourself every time.>>15658356>Not sure what it has to do with anything I saidHe's an idiot. There.
>>15658300>Because Bernkastel has all the "qualities" required to be spankable : she's small, somewhat cute, and is a real bitch.No, those are your qualities for a perfect ass, not requirements to be spankable. All that is required for someone to be spankable is to have an ass. It's qualities only intencifies the spanking results.>Bernkastel's actions have led 18 people to death several times, and she did so without giving them any respect.So what? It doesn't matter if she lead 18 or 1000 people to their death. All that matters is her baseline attitude. Her apathy only makes it more engaging to break. >I don't really enjoy beating kids.Neither do I but I enjoy corrupting on all levels, and that logically must include children.>but Maria is just... I dunno, she has it too rough with her unadequate wreck of a mother.Boring. You know Maria deserves it. All characters deserve it.>Even Ange, who had a shitty childhood and had to make even more imaginary friends than Maria?God yes. Did you not see my list a thread ago on how I would break Ange through blackmail and bullying? Having a shitty childhood and past doesn't matter. Just as it doesn't matter to you that Bernkastel had a shitty life.>Even Beatrice, with her frilly dressWell Kinzo tied her to his bed and built a mansion around that bed, so I think he had it covered.>Even Rosa, which is the bitchiest bitch that isn't a witch and got hitchedRosa is in dire need to be broken. The entire reason she's suffering is because she is in need of a man to rely on.>Even Zepar, who may or may not be a trap?No. I don't swing that way. However, an absolute degenerate would not let gender get in the way of his pleasure.>>15658359There is only so many times I can repeat myself before giving up.But the quest for the truth requires endless repetition, so meh.
>>15658380Everytime? Anyway, you're never going to find the truth, neither I. Why not simply enjoy life?
>>15658387I've already found the truth.Power, sex, causality, duality.All I can do is show people the way.
>>15658395You forgot optimism, self restraint and unlimited patience.
>>15658395But that's so boring. Be more simplistic and stop thinking so much. You're going to be more happy in a world were still exist things unknown for you.
>>15658398You made me giggle. You know, it's probably that you're going to be deleted for talking to him.
>>15658395Also, you lack of those two first ones.
>>15658380>No, those are your qualities for a perfect ass, not requirements to be spankable. All that is required for someone to be spankable is to have an ass. It's qualities only intencifies the spanking results.But an ass is nothing if it's not attached to a person, so ultimately, you end up wanting to spank a person because who she is rather than just because she has a nice ass.And Bernkastel has the perfect attributes, requirements, whatever you choose to call it to deserve a spanking. Even if her ass was flat (which probably is since she's a little girl), she would still be spanking material for the reason I gave earlier.>It doesn't matter if she lead 18 or 1000 people to their deathIt does. It is a sin to bear. She needs to pay for all the death she caused.>All that matters is her baseline attitude.Mmm?>Her apathy only makes it more engaging to break.Apathy... What a good joke. She spends too much time making faces to be considered apathic. See pic related. And that's not her worst frown.I want her to make that face when I tell her it's time for her daily spanking.>You know Maria deserves it.Sakutarou's death and the beatings her mother give her, in front of the other kids aren't enough?>Did you not see my list a thread ago on how I would break Ange through blackmail and bullying?I didn't really paid much attention to it because you also talked about sex, and blackmail sex isn't my favourite flavour.>Rosa is in dire need to be broken. The entire reason she's suffering is because she is in need of a man to rely onRosa's problem is that she suffers from a really poor self-esteem. She treats her daughter like a dead weight and a retard, and when her boyfriend start telling her she shouldn't let Maria alone, Rosa goes full apeshit and accuse him of wanting to hitch her because she's a single mother.
>>15658398Optimism is within duality.Optimism and cynicism. Opposites. Duality.>>15658399I don't know how much more simplistic I van be. Though simplicity and complexity are within duality, so meh.
>>15658417Optimism is within duality but optimism itself isn't the same as duality.There's a complete difference between a person who's solely optimistic and one who has that said duality.
>>15658415Oh, fuck off with this shit.>>15658417I'm bored..
Fucking perverts. I wish everyone would be dead.
>>15658429t. Beatrice
>>15658429How will you make everyone die the death?
>>15658432Bah
>>15658427>I'm bored.Me too, I'm running in circles. Insanity something something over again something something.>>15658420>Optimism is within duality but optimism itself isn't the same as duality.No shit. One side cannot be two sides. >There's a complete difference between a person who's solely optimisticEven if a person is entirely optimistic, cynicism will always exist.>>15658432Probably by sentencing everyone to death.
>>15658438I need distraction, and you're not helping in being uninteresting. Why don't you die?
There's a spanking thread on /d/. You can talk there if you want.
>>15658447My solution to boredom is usually masturbation.If not try playing Lethal Operation, GHost9/Hack9 Installments or Black Maria Overdrive. Those are a few of my favorite games that are of considerably small size. thus fast to download and spend your time with on spot
>>15658453Die
>>15658456That's rude. I was trying to help out
>>15658459Die Die
Why can't R07 write properly? He makes lots of things unnecessary long and drawn out, god. I hate this shit.
>>15658465>implying you don't love ithehe
>>15658453Masturbation and sex, but mostly just the feeling of euphoria and zen caused by Dopamine, only creates the sensation of calmness and happiness. It does not relieve boredom. That's like telling a person they can relieve boredom if they take drugs. Although there is an irony of sorts to recommend hedonistic pleasure of gaming compared to another hedonistic pleasure of drugs.It's rather all boring.
>>15658461
>>15658476>someone saved my shitty drawingI feel so happy.I wonder if anyone noticed that the DEATH DEATH was made to look like a sword/knife?
>>15658476I like you.
>>15658032
>>15658480>my shitty drawingWoah! You suck, limp dick.
Since nobody is answering to me, I guess I made my point about Buttkastel.I can resume wanting to beat her.
>>15658480It looks like a fish.
>>15658484They picked on it very quickly.
>>15658492I'm tired of you and your fetishes, Stanley. Die.
>>15658484Can't find it in the archive.
>>15658484God, that is hilarious. Though it would have been even better if it was written from Yasu's pov.
Well, I proved my point. Bernkastel is a bitch and deserve a spanking. The Ushiromiyas are okay.
>>15658493I don't know. It looks like a dagger from a video game.>>15658510I was just about to call you worthless, but I can't find it so I'm going to shut up. It's not there.>>15658522Yeah, yeah, whatever.
>>15658537>It looks like a dagger from a video game.Yeah, that's what I modeled it after. I wanted to make it a sword but it just didn't work with the size of the DEATH DEATH
It's a little strange that all the Higurashi girls got in spanking pictures while Umineko has Bernkastel and a lot more character but almost no lewd at all.
>>15658547Uh-huh, very interesting.>>15658548Shut up damn you!
>>15658551Bernkastel smooth, white, bare ass.Witches are perfect bodies, even with all the sweets they eat, they never grow fat. Imagine Bernkastel's butt, a little underdevelopped because of her young age, but trembling and firm under your hand.This is what you refuse to believe in.
>>15658551Bernkastel's smooth, white, bare ass, shivering as you slowly remove all the layers protecting it. Her skirt, her panties, and then you pull her tail out of the way.Witches have perfect bodies, even with all the sweets they eat, they never grow fat. Imagine Bernkastel's butt, a little underdevelopped because of her young age, but trembling yet firm under your hand.This is what you refuse to believe in.
>>15658560Why do you have an obsession with spanking a little girl? What is wrong with you?
>>15658573Are you saying Bernkastel shouldn't be spanked?Have we played the same game?
>>15658563No thank you, I'm not gay. You can have her if you want.
>>15658578>I'm not gayOh my god, a woman on 4chan!So, did you like Umineko? What do you think of it?Beside the whole "this isn't Higurashi at all" thing.
>>15658575Bern did nothing wrong. Don't bully her.
>>15658584Stanley pls, shut up.
>>15658586She was responsable for Erika. That already deserves a spanking.Also, I remember that now, but wasn't Erika to blame for some of the crimes? I thought the culprit couldn't be the murderer?Or am I mixing episodes again between the game she plays with Beato and Battler and the game she plays against GM Battler?
>>15658584Fucking christ, don't start this again.
>>15658596I'm going to ignore him, don't worry.
>>15658573>little girlShe's older than you.
Also, Bernkastel is the manifestation of a bunch of fat virgins on the internet trying to solve a mystery. HAHAHAHA!
>>15658595Is someone once again TALKING SHIT ABOUT MY ERIKA?
>>15658608Stupid dumb erika poster. Your waifu is imperfect.
>>15658611Yeah. Remember when Sherlock Holmes mutilated dead bodies? No?THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING REALY DETECTIVE DO.
>>15658613Meant for >>15658611 I'm stupid too I suppose.
>>15658563>Bernkastel's smooth, white, bare ass, shivering as you slowly remove all the layers protecting it. Her skirt, her panties, and then you pull her tail out of the way.Boring. You're only detailing an idealized ass and moment rather than something that can be attributed to Bernkastel alone except for the random latch ditch effort characterization of the tail.Example.>Satoko's smooth, white, bare ass, shivering as you slowly remove her dark black nylons protecting it. Her skirt, her panties, and then you spread her buttcheeks for the perfect viewIt's boring. You might as well be talking about lolis.Ironically, these types of talks are the norm in waifu threads, which isn't surprising since it's idealized discussions about idealized moments of idealized partners.It lacks realism.>>15658595>She was responsable for Erika. That already deserves a spanking.That's stupid. The mystery fans created Erika, not Bernkastel.>wasn't Erika to blame for some of the crimes? I thought the culprit couldn't be the murderer?You're remembering wrong.
>>15658624>The mystery fans created Erika, not BernkastelIf that's the case then why do Erika obeys BernkASStel?Checkmate.
>>15658614She's a special detective. >>15658618The entire humanity is an imperfect organism, or rather the concept of living organisms itself is lacking, but we still go with it. I fill my wife's missing spot caused by insanity by adding my own peculiar tastes to the equitation
>>15658614Erika is a meta literary detective. She's not a real detective. All detective in detective fiction exist within the confines and realism of the real world. However, Erika is created by mystery fans in an attempt to create the perfect detective in a literary work (the forgeries) within a literary work (Umineko)Sherlock would never kill people because that would have real world consequences. Erika killing the family has no consequences because they're already dead.
>>15658595What was the point of Erika's character really? Or generally, what was the point of ep5 and ep6?
>>15658647Having a detective, since Battler sided with Beatrice.
>>15658628Not that anon, but Stanley, can I ask you something please? You're the same anon that started reading Umineko not long ago, right? The one that always posted his opinions and thoughts about the VN. Just curious.>>15658642How someone can trully love something it doesn't exist?
>>15658653>How someone can trully love something it doesn't exist?We already talked about this last thread.
>>15658657I didn't paid attention. Now, tell me why.
>>15658595Yasu is easily the shittiest character in the entire franchise. I liked the parts when Bern pawned that idiot and bullied her/him.
>>15658667>shittiest character>not Gaap
>>15658642>She's a special detective.Yes a special kind. >>15658647Beatrice wrote ep 1-2Tohya wrote ep 3-4 and published it on the internet. The mystery fans (the goats) got interested in Tohya's work but complained that Battler was shit, so they asked to put their own detective to see if they can get more information and solve what happened on the island. They created a mary sue detective that knew detective tropes and prepared in advance for the murder. Natsuhi was a red herring but the reader was stuck with Natsuhi the entire time, so you as the reader knew she wasn't the culprit, however, the mystery fans were fooled and told Erika to follow Natsuhi. The mystery fans got tricked and solved nothing.In ep 6, Tohya allowed them to try another time but he planned to just fuck around with them by creating a scenario where everyone was faking being dead. The mystery fans were pissed at how they were humiliated in ep 5 and told Erika to just mess up the gameboard and trap Tohya in a logic error. After Tohya got out, he closed the gameboard and was never seen again.The point of Erika threefolds. Firstly, she's an example of the extremes of truth and rationality. She is also a representation of the quote from Arthur Conan Doyle ''It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.''. And finally, Erika is a representation of an actual Mary sue of how bullshit most detectives are but with a meta spin. And she's a shit for never solving anything.
Oh, escapism. I understand now, but you can't escape forever.
>>15658674And who brought Erika in the meta? Bernkasstel did.
>111 new postsGee I wonder which two morons decided to drop by again
>>15658667Yasu is little more than a mouthpiece. She literally has no other function than represent the murderer.
>>15658668Most of the fantasy characters were shit, the only good ones were Eva-Beatrice and Ronove.
>>15658692Except the part where she's, you know, not the murderer.
>>15658696At least Eva-Beatrice is relevant on a meta level. Ronove, Virgilia, Gaap and that other dude I'm forgetting all appear in one episode and then become backgrounds characters.
>>15658690Both
I love to play and destroy so much.
>>15658697How is she not the murderer?
>>15658642Mah special Nigga
what happened?
>>15658765Mod.
>>15658763Funny thing is that my family from my mother's side always had this slogan of "You can fix everything as long as you have duct tape"She's meant for me in every possible way
>>15658787You mean Jan itor
>>15658797Jan Titor
>>15658793>"You can fix everything as long as you have duct tape"Remember kids. It's rape if it involves ductape
I wonder where riddle anon go. His riddles and the other guys trying to solve them always seemed quite interesting to me. I miss it.>>15658765God.
>>15658806No worries, I'll let you try your hand at solving a riddle once I come up with a new one. I need to make sure that I tune the difficulty correctly this time though.
>>15658824I'm glad to hear that. Seeya.
>>15658765Janitor decided that talking about Bernkastel was offtopic.
>>15658841No, the janitor rightly deleted the posts of two ban evading shitposters who frequently derail these threads.
Bernkastel is cute but a major bitch.
>>15658858It wasn't just those two. A few post were from that ass lover, but he deserve it. For being a pervert!
guys lets talk about the umineko mystery
>>15658754He is one of those idiots who fell for the Rudolf/Kyrie theory.
>>15658871Spamming that shit the past three threads is just as much a nuisance anyhow.
>>15658875I half-expected a gif here.>>15658871>he doesn't like assDisgusting.
>>15658872Want to converse regarding the wonders of 588?
>>15658880>heStanley, you disappoint me.
>>15658872The biggest mystery for me is how does loli Ange's pussy and butthole taste.
>>15658894Tastes like chorizo
>>15658894Hey, why do you try so hard to annoy me?
>>15658894Little girls usually smell like lemons, so I'm guessing something similar to that
>>15658894The biggest mystery is why I can find Rika getting spanked but not Bernkastel or any of the Umineko girls for that matter.Did they all got scared by the plot?
Oh, janny found me. It's time to leave.>>15658905Stop.
There's a huge amount of fanart about Higurashi, but almost nothing about Umineko.And I guess RGD and Higanbana get even less.
>>15658897Burger would be better.>>15658901Is there a big difference between taste and smell?
>>15658894>>15658901>>15658905>>15658917I'm going to destroy you.
>>15658917In my opinion, no.The basic essence remains, but of course you can't understand the difference in acidity, spice burns and whatnot. Not that you needed me to point that out for you to know.
>>15658914But at least Umineko have great fanart.
>>15658927Point being, it's extremely similar down to the base, but changes due to oil and other substances can make the two differ.
God, kill this one >>15658927
>you're walking around in hinamizawa >all of a sudden you hear footsteps behind youWhat do
>>15658927>>15658933Okay, but the question still remains....why lemon? What is it that connects little girls and lemons? I can't figure it out.
>>15658938Look behind me, see nothing. Put my headphones and continue listening music.
>>15658941My personal only experience goes as far as sniffing, so I can't really explain much from that alone without learning more on the subject, but that would turn into a crime, so I'd really rather not.
>>15658932Rifyu is cool, yeah. It's too bad he limits himself to 4komas.
>>15658938Reach the logical conclusion that it must have been a witch and walk away calmly.
>>15658941>>15658946Why you idiots are not banned while I'm for literally nothing?
>>15658955>Literally nothing>Off topic drivel, ban evasion and passive aggressive complainingKill yourself
>>15658955Because you go apeshit over nothing while all we've done is discuss a minor topic for 10 minutes without involving anyone else.
>>15658960Ah, right. Hmm, okay.
>>15658955Because we're actually talking about Umineko, witches and riddles.
>>15658969Doesn't looks like it, but okay. I'm not really complaining. I know I deserve being banned.
>>15658987I dunno, I posted a lot about my desire to spank Bernkastel while explaining why and most of my posts are still around, so I guess they're on-topic.Bern is still a bitch. As bad as Featherine, maybe even worse.
>>15659002Stop responding to it
So the question still remains, why did that stupid Batora chose that transgender subhuman trash over this perfection?>>15658946Ohhh. It makes me curious but I understand. I won't press it further.
>>15659002Honestly, you're okay. There's nothing wrong about you or what you post, it was just the fact that you reply to me and limp dick that make you get deleted so don't worry to much. You're still a pervert though.
I have some questions about ep 2, anyone willing to answer them?
>>15659013I'm always a pervert. I still try to control it most of the time.I just have a fetish for spanking little girls and Bernkastel fills so many requirements...>>15659014It's been years since I played, but ask anyway. We'll do our best.
>>15659014No.
>>15659020Sigh. Well, have fun.
>>15659014Sure, I finished 2 weeks ago. even if i haven't read Chiru because I'm waiting for MG.
>>156590201. How can the furniture see a "blue ocean" by looking at it with love? What does that mean?2. Beatrice gave them the butterfly brooch to find love, but isn't beatrice part of the same set of personalities? How is beatrice helping them? Also how would reawakening beatrice change their inescapable fate of being furniture? does beatrice represent their deterimnation to find love?
>>15659034>1. How can the furniture see a "blue ocean" by looking at it with love? What does that mean?Well that's simple. When you're in love everything seems a lot prettier than it actually is
>>156590341. Everything is pretty when you're in love.2. Yes. That's why Lambdadelta supports Beatrice, because she has the willpower to do the whole Rokkenjima thing.
Reminder to whoever missed OCD/Explanation anon's infodump that there's a complete umineko episode explanation, including some comments to errors he made. Of course that won't answer every misc question, but it's really helpful against getting your head cleared right after finishing Umineko.I originally saved it in Rich Text format, so the words might come off in a weird location, but here you go regardless.To be specific, it's the explanation of Ep1 until Ep6, since Ep7 and 8 were pretty self explanatory.http://pastebin.com/UP7Rqtar
>>156590341. It's a metaphor. Love makes everything seem brighter and more vivid.2. Beatrice is the one who went "fuck this shit, Imma become a witch", when Shkannon resigned themselves to their lot in life. Also, she's probably the closest to the original Yasu.
>>15659072Or rather, wouldn't it be better if we became more general thread-y by having those greentext pastebin/mega links on the OP?For example links to the PS3 Sprite patch, links for Ougon Musou Kyoku/CROSS, the mediafire sprite batch, the explanation infodump, things like that.
>>15659094And the most important of all, actually fucking linking the previous thread
>>15659106Aren't generals forbidden outside of /vg/?
>>15659118Not unless we get a /jpg/.
>>15659122/png/ are better anyway.
>>15659118No, only /v/ has a rule against generals, they're allowed on all other boards as far as I know
>>15659136Okay then. If it's forbidden, it'll get deleted anyway.
One more question i have, is about connecting episodes 1-2 with 3-4. To me it seems to story changes alot within the last 2 episodes.. how can I link them together and get one solution?
>>15659118Have you looked at the catalog?
>>15659163Weren't they explained as Eva killing everyone?
>>15659167Episode 3 was basically showing the Eva Culprit theory the whole time. Episode 4 was more as everyone being in on it.
>>15659163Have you read Chiru? 1-2 are Yasu message bottles. 3-6 are Battler/Ikuko stories. The "mystery" you are solving is the identity of Beatrice and the solutions to the games, which aren't all the same. What actually happened on Rokkenjima is a different story.
>>15659176I am having trouble seeing the "heart" that connects all the episodes together.. to me episode 3 is just constantly showing eva being guilty with yasu killing on the side. The authors change, but according to ryukishi all the episodes should make one coherent solution together
>>15659180Because EP3 is a different case where the epitaph is solved and killings still occur. What connects the stories is Beatrice still doing things and the hints about her.
>>15659186Does the island still blow up?
>>15659228Yes
>>15659240I misunderstood then. I thought the bomb thing was a figure of speech to signify that everyone was to be dead at the end.
>>15658647Erika represents the mystery readers who "have no love". They only look for the facts and find a perverse joy in uncovering the truth, ignoring the story. Also, I come back in the morning and so many posts are deleted, what happened in this thread?
>>15658938Hug Hanyuu and tell her it's okay and that she's forgiven.
>>15659345Hanryuu a cute
>>15659338What's wrong with only seeing facts and enjoying being superior to others?
>>15659358Hanyuu not Hanryuu fuckEvery god damn time it gets over 3 AM my brain decides to shit itself
>>15659358Hanryuu more like ONRYO
OCD/Explanation anon here, I was occupied with some stuff in this last week.3 things btw1- Did I missed something cool in the latest threads?2- Please don't attribute credits to me for the infodumps (as I just seen above), I only posted them in here (it was the work of some other dedicatd goat theorist, as I explained before).3- Any info on the newest 07th Expansion projects (manga, VN, translations, etc...)?I anticipatedly thank you for the answers.
>>15659533*dedicatedsorry for the typo
The whole Shannon/Kanon trick was so fucking cheap...why couldn't we have simply different killers every episode? Fucking hell, Ryukishi.
>>15659542Pretty sure some anons some weeks ago proved this not to be cheap at all and even discussed about some way more crazy real-life cases.But yeah, that's your opinion. I personally found it to be genius just like them.
Any time for underrated tracks from Umineko's glorious OST?I'm starting with this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5t6l_2mM2Q&list=PLF9C12B0C12DC52F7&index=142
>>15659553>and even discussed about some way more crazy real-life casesSounds fun. Examples?>But yeah, that's your opinion. I personally found it to be genius just like them.Well yeah everyone has their opinions, the maid is the butler thing just really doesn't cut it for me and left a bad taste in my mouth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt4GGsj39H8
>>15659562Most of the non-Executioner tracks from EP7.
>>15659562Don't know if this is overrated or otherwise but I really like this one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOyBGo4vjBg
>>15659591What's the official name of mind2.ogg?
>>15659533Let's see.1- The thread got noticed by some Shkanontrice haters lately and now we are ignoring them the way we can (one example above). Other than that, we are waiting for that tankobon for Hotarubi and shitposting while enjoying the job of nudes anon and the memetic 70s Battler drawning by ryukishi anon.2- not the one making the general with the links, you might want to say that to the anon with the file (letting a "you" for him bellow)>>156590723- For now, country girl is being TLd and we are waiting for the tankobon for Hotarubi, then, the nice anon can buy us the translation of the first chapters like he did with chapter one.Other than that, you are not missing much.New VN players asking questions and stuff, the infodump you posted was pretty helpful for some of them btw, so, props.
Speaking of the soundtrack, this is an absolute must listen. Unused Xaki tracks along with the ones he did use.
>>15659581The thread got deleted, sorry, I can't help you with that (I'm a newfag when it comes to the archived things).But they told us there were a bunch of stories even on wikipedia about these infamous imposters, one of them pretty much impersonated like 5 different people in a military party, of all events, and got away before being discovered (and he didn't even used anything more sofisticated than make-up, wigs, etc...).I kinda want to read some stuff about this, now that I remembered this. Gonna search a bit about these people, sounds like a nice plot for a spy flick or something imo
>>15659600Mindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_8gujWJMc>>15659638Well, I understand THAT case because they professional spies probably but that a simple servant could do it....meh, not believing it.
>>15659638Here you go>>/jp/thread/S15603191#p15618905
>>15659678Yeah, that one. That's probably my favorite track in Umineko.There's also another "thinking" track, that sounds a bit like a clock.
>>15659562Cool that you provided a link with all the tracks in a playlist, anon.Here one of my favorites, actually (I agree EP7's tracks are quite underrated in a way):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYl1hLAPoRc&index=62&list=PLF9C12B0C12DC52F7
>>15659682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-5pAmoR5AA
>>15659682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-5pAmoR5AAIs this it?
Before Dread of the Grave we had Core...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYHy3VnZRp0
>>15659694>>15659695Yeah.Amazing you two could find it just with "sounds like a clock".Maaaan, the memories. They're coming back.How many years has it been since I played Umineko?
>>15659706four
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lfKRZPs7kQThis one is CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED.
>>15659712Probably more than that, since in the meantime, I managed to get a diploma, get a job, get fired, become alcoholic, and almost forget my lust for Bernkastel's ass.
>>15659722Okay, four and two months.
Anyone else got interested in the mystery genre because of Umineko? Could anyone recommend me similar stuff, I mean murder mysteries.
>>15659738No, but the first thing that comes to mind is Agatha Christie.
>>15659738The most obvious choice is And Then There Were None, if you haven't read it already. Umineko takes a lot of inspiration from it
>>15659738Taking from the same old thread (and prob the same anon), someone mentioned quite a few great mystery authors:>>/jp/thread/S15603191#p15618776I never read anything from this Takagi guy, so, I can't really judge much further than that. The other authors are amazing for sure though.
>>15659562Oooooh, certainly this one takes the cake for me. And nobody even remembers it exists for some reason, which is a shame, since it's pretty epic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srAkT72YhCc&list=PLF9C12B0C12DC52F7&index=82
>>15659738Depends from what you want. Most murder mysteries keep things away from you so that the detective pull them out of his hat.
>>15659738Magnum PI and Murder She Wrote.
>>15659776>nobodyHah! Not be so sure. I remember this one mostly for the use of the piano.
>>15659776I definitely remember that tone.But it doesn't sound like anything in Umineko.
>>15659776>that pianoHoly shit. I'm getting fucking goosebumps from listening to some dumb music.Humans shouldn't be so vulnerable to music.
>>15659836You fool. Music is everything.
>>15659755>>15659761I haven't read it yet but I have been planning to get into Christie. Thanks.>>15659769Much appreciated. Wrote down those names so I wouldn't forget them.>>15659794Well, my wet dream would be something like a mystery+slasher horror combined. Gory killings but also a nice plot and mystery which challenges me to find out who the killer is.
Why is Beatrice enjoying the cruel show put on by Eva? I thought Beatrice was just acting to be the part.. but it seems she genuinely enjoys it.
>>15659840Letting out that good old random off-topic obscure reference here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA4nqjjlOKc
>>15659841Anon pls, all of those authors are very well known.
>>15659841I'd rather have a good atmosphere. I really, really loved Higurashi because it relied on sounds and ambience as much as music.So you had Keiichi walking in Hinamizawa, complaining about the heat while hearing the cicadas. Really made you feel like you were next to him, panting and sweating as you were running down corridors.Umineko has some really good music, but not enough atmosphere. That's my main beef with it.>>15659840I don't like my emotions being controlled so easily by a song.
>>15659853Because mental problems.But seriously, who didn't enjoy it?
>>15659866I thought the whole cruel witch thing was just an act.
>>15659857Never watched this anime, but I'm going to do it now. Later.>>15659863>I don't like my emotions being controlled so easily by a song.Then we can't be friend. Music is one of the few thing I can never get bored.
>>15659853Because emotions, repressed frustration, all that.
>>15659776And there's that one, who manages to make Georges not boring : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEMLNCTkzdM
>>15659879"Hikaru no Go" is a great anime, but expect very serious business stuff with Go instead of your usual shounen sport anime.Like, a less mature Ping Pong the Animation.
>>15659858Hah, I have only heard of Christie, Conan Doyle and Poe out of those. And that is still only heard, I didn't read anything from them /except one or two short stories from Poe/.>>15659863I liked Higurashi's atmosphere too but I thought episode 1 of Umineko was the best. Lots of tension and paranoia, getting stuck in a mansion on an island far away from help.>>15659870I think it was just Battler trying to view Yasu through rose-tinted glasses. In truth, Yasu isn't less of a scumbag than any of the Ushiromiyas.
>>15659893That moment was so exaggerated. Beautiful music, full of emotion.>>15659912I will try my best. I love silly things too.
>>15659893>George>not posting Victima propiciatoria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HJKJxQRmgc
>>15659797I am hesitant to get into these. What should I expect?
>>15659923Hm, I actually meant the opposite, man.Besides being less mature (in a sense that most of the messages and content are for adult viewers/readers), it still is quite a serious story in that sense.I still can't believe it used to be published in Shounen Jump, of all Shounen magazines with most of the content being purely well thought legit strategies, tips and great Go games, while the rest is pretty much a soft Bildungsroman story with well developed characters.
>>15659957Oh, sorry. I didn't read your post correctly. It doesn't matter, I'm sure I'll enjoy it. How many episodes?
>>15659914Because Umineko's first episode was actually written like Higurashi, except that it added claustrophobia, making the whole thing more intense.>>15659923This is the only reason I still remember the music YEARS later. It was extremely silly in retrospect, but pretty intense back then.
>>1565998675 episodes. Also, it's a really nice ride to marathon overall, since it's so addicting after the first couple of build-up episodes, so I hope you have fun with it.It's always a pleasure to recommend cool anime for you all (/jp/ got me into Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu some years ago, and I'm forever greatful for that).
>>15660006>greatfulgrateful*sorry for that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDPJuAxZaOoI love the first 20 first seconds. Reminds me a bit of Deus Ex for some reason.
>>15660006Thank you, I think I'm going to start watch it now.>>15660017No worries.
>>15660006>>15660031I also loved this anime when I was younger.Don't you guys forget there's also that neat 1-hour special sequel, it's also worth watching (you will need, because it's one of those series that let you begging for much more of the same.
I dislike the idea of someone who is not interested in music. It's the same as not being interested in being happy. Can a boring person like that really exist? Yeah, I'm talking to you.>>15660039Thanks for the advice. Well, time to go.
Oh yeah. And to the Anon who asked earlier why I wouldn't spank Maria.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GxfJ40eDasCan you want to spank a cute girl who has such a nice Tim Burton-esque theme?
>>15660039Yeah, that too. Be sure to watch it.My apologies, completely forgot to mention it above.>>15660050Yet again, "have a nice (day)" time with it.
>>15660059God dammit, you.
>>15660069Keep whining. At least Youtube didn't put Tunakk Tunak Tun in the middle of a Umineko playlist.
>>15660059Which one plays when Erika tries to marry Battler?
Best songShame that it is Maria's bullying themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpI8bYi6QX0
>>15659797Mystery and whoodunit fun. "Oh shit I didn't see that coming" without being too grimdark (although Magnum does get fucking dark in some continuity episodes)
>>15660112The only Magnum I know is a giant with a giant pedophile moustache and a nice car.
Shit>>15660112Was for>>15659951
>>15660115https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDv5kizY8oE
>>15660124Yeah, that's the one.There's another Magnum that is into murder mystery?
>>15660124>that gay as fuck laughWhat the hell.I want that guy in Rokkenjima.
>>15660139No. That Magnum is into murder mystery.
>>15660153THAT Magnum?
>>15660147He would surely be good friends with Kinzo.
>>15660153Okay.After wanting to spank Bernkastel, now I want to spank Lucifer too.
>>15660162That Magnum. It's a good show.Especially the spookies with ghosts or the episode where he has to confront gooks from his past.
>>15660099Grey Empty Smilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPkKuKc4-2IPretty cool if you ask me.
>>15660174Don't spank the stakes.
>>15660180I question ShKannon's sexuality, for her to imagine her former fellow maids with such lewd outfits.
>>15660196
>>15660112>>15660124Fuck downloading season 1 now.>>15660147He would be a better detective than Batora-kun, that's for sure.
>>15660207I... I need a really cold shower.
>>15660208Sometimes I think even Ken Levine or Phillip Burnell would be better detective than Battler.
>>15660227
>>15660220It's just a butt
im having trouble understanding episode 3.. what was the whole point with shannon/ kanon reviving? was that a hint about yasu?
>>15660261Watch closely the Stakes' uniform. You can see their navels. Their clothes are tight enough that you can see their navel.Imagine how it goes in their butts, how it presses against their delicate buttocks. Imagine how much of a torture it would be if they were to be spanked, their uniform always pressing against their chastised butts, always... I really need a cold shower.
>>15660262Just accept that it was magic and Beatrice exists. More logical than the whole Yasu/Shkanon thing.
>>15660274>Imagine how much of a torture it would be if they were to be spanked, their uniform always pressing against their chastised butts, alwaysI don't quite understand the appeal You'll have to go into detail
>>15660280Magic doesn't exist. Grow up.
>>15660060I'm loving the opening. I have a nice feeling about this one. Now that we're talking about books and stuff, what are some good mystery anime out there? Preferably before 2010, I love classics. Something like Gosick, excellent music and I still remember Kujo and Victorique. Cutest couple.>>15660124It looks funny. I'm going to watch it too, when I have the time to do it.>>15660174Grrr! You again.
>>15660283Ex-ists! Uu--!
>>15660282Imagine the pain as these tight, tight uniform are squeezing the stakes's bodies.Imagine spanking one. Her uniform is so tightened it constantly digs between her asscheeks, pressing and squeezing her freshly spanked bottom. She wants to pinch her uniform and pull it, just a bit to let some fresh, cold air carress her hot chastised butt, but she cannot.Imagine the torture.
>>15660300No, it doesn't exist.>>15660305Tsk. So annoying.
>>15660280I wish Ryukishi was less obvious with what Kinzo did to his daughter Beatrice.It was enough to imply he used her to satisfy his love. There was no need to have her begging.
>>15660280>>15660283>>15660300Wasn't there a picture like that where two guys are arguing and sperging before being revealed to be Beatrice and Battler shitposting?
>>15660370This one?
>>15660384Pretty sure that's the one anon is talking about.
>>15660384Yes, that one. I thought for sure it was schroedinger, but I couldn't find it on Danbooru.
>>15660313>No, it doesn't exist.Riiiiiiight? Are you saying it was the transgender maid/butler then?! How come nobody noticed anything? Are you an idiooooot???! *cackle*cackle*
>>15660384I wonder how hilarious Umineko would be if they all acted like internet trolls.
>>15660421>implying Battler and Beatrice arguing didn't turn into shitposting-tier discussion at almost the beginning
>>15660437It went shit pretty quickly, especially since Battler is extremely stubborn.
>>15660415>Are you saying it was the transgender maid/butler then?Yeah.>How come nobody noticed anything?People are stupid, more news at 11.>Are you an idiot?I'm not obliged to answer that question.
what the fuck is it with these threads and spanking fetishists?
>>15660461It's literally just one anon. A very perverted one.
>>15660461What? People can't talk about Japanese visual novels anymore?
>>15660280TOP KEK, Rosatrice guy still around after all this years, the butthurt is real.>>15660289Good mystery anime from way before?Boogiepop Phantom for sure (though you might want to read some of the books, because things are more implicit than Umineko without them).Monster is also great. And so is Ghost Hound (different kind of mystery though). That Agatha Christie one is also not bad it kinda loses big part of its charm however).There's also good old Higurashi, of course, Shiki (same atmosphere) and also the gigantic Meitantei Conan.Similar to Umineko we have pretty much every single anime by Ikuhara (symbolism mystery galore), Kaiba (in a sense) and Mousou Dairinin (same as Kaiba).Now, for a completely different kind of mystery, we also have Serial Experiments Lain (8deep10u, you will have a harsh time trying to understand half of the things happening until you rewatch a couple of times), Takarajima (more like mysterious adventure), Tatami Galaxy (life lesson mystery) and Shinsekai Yori (dystopian post-apocalyptical fantastic mystery).Yep, those are all I got in mind right now (and very few are from the murder mystery genre really).
>>15660475There's some padding in Monster that may be annoying.
>people talking about Umineko's music>not posting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDma4A6A3Bc
>>15660480It's because we were talking about the underrated ones, not the very well praised.
>>15660461It's one person spamming it
>>15660487>very well praisedI never heard that one mentioned before.
>>15660493The classic rifle scene theme from episode 1?It's a fan favorite of many people, bro.
>>15660498https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3ykGTL4o8What about this one?
Seriously not enough love for the EP7 tracks other than Executioner, which I honestly only like intro to.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy65AXcjDBg
>>15660515Yeah, I really like this one too.It surely deserves more love.
>>15660515Kinda sounds like something you'd hear in Minecraft.
>>15660516Umineko's OST should be a japanese national treasure. It's great in any musical genre and/or rhythm.
>>15660522>>15660520https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhogZK_f0kwAnother underrated one.
>>15660527Especially ALIVE. It goes really well with Erika's death.But the problem is that Umineko has too much music and not enough atmosphere.
>>15660527Hands down the best soundtrack for a piece of media I've ever heard
>>15660532Best EP1 track, in my modest opinion.
>>15660475>Boogiepop PhantomI tried this one before, but I don't know why I stopped. I'm going to give it another opportunity.>booksOkay. I didn't know there was a light novel about it. If I feel hooked I'm going to give them a try.>MonsterI have watched it already. Fantastic.The only one I didn't on your list see it's Ghost Hound, although another anon recommended me that one like two month ago. I'm embarrassed hehehe. Thanks again. Night-night!
>>15660536Wholeheartedly agreed.I could listen to these tracks all day non-stop (if only I could program them for the exact circunstances I need each specific music depending of the moment I mean...)
>>15660558No problems, I'm full of good anime for you all! Now, go have your good time, fellow goat companion.
>>15660558>the only one I didn't watch on your listOups, sorry. >>15660571Bye!
>still no parody of Umineko where the murder mystery are just a giant cluedo game, with all the Ushiromiya crying "Why am I dead AGAIN?"
>>15660559>if only I could program them for the exact circunstances I need each specific music depending of the momentOh shit, this is like one of the best ideas I've heard today. Thanks for that, anon.
>>15660541Good taste.Here are some others that don't get enough love.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcWSfzYTiZIBecause it isn't the main game it barely gets any attention.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMVh99cpPukNot that unknown but still doesn't get enough love.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb0ewTaFKncComfy ep7 music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpV4p-ZkR6UAgain from ep7.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsvP3ueoocwA huge personal favorite from ep1.
>>15660589No way, your life can't be that monotone and scheduled for you to be able to program music for each day and stuff... can it?
Wait a minute...So everything in Umineko is because Kinzo fucked his own daughter, said daughter then wanted to get in Battler's pants?Man, that's disappointing.
>>15660600You would be surprised.Also your comment made me cry inside a little.Fuck it, I'm doing this!
GoddamnitWhy are there different lengths for a shitload of the zts tracks? I'm just now finding that I have versions either 1 or so minutes longer or shorter than others.
>>15660601No, Kinzo didn't fuck Yasu, he fucked Yasu's mother, who was also his daughter
>>15660619But Kinzo fucked Beatrice, who then spouted another Beatrice that Kinzo also fucked, that spouted Yasu.
>>15660619Kinzo is the one to blame for the whole tragedy really.Yasu did nothing wrong, she was born fucked up in the head because of incest and was thrown from a fucking cliff,
>>15660624What the fuck?Dude, I really don't now where are you coming from, I'm legitimately confused.
>>15660601Yes. And all the different episodes are Battler trying to remember what really happened while dealing with his own trauma.That's why it get more and more fantastical.>>15660635From the VN. You should read it once.
>>15660637I'm so sorry, I read "spoused" (and my mind couldn't handle the craziness of the scene).
>>15660637Can you explain more on this? Episode 1-2 aren't battler correct?
>>15660645Oh. That explains much.But yeah, there are two real beatrices, the first that came from Italy that Kinzo loved, and her daughter that looked her a lot, was really naive, and died after giving birth to Yasu because of Rosa.
>>15660651Episode 1-2 are Battler (Tohya) reading Yasu's manuscripts in the bottle while trying to remember just what happened before he lost his memory.Which is why we have his narrative and an omniscient one.
>>15660632>Yasu did nothing wrongDon't push all the blame on Kinzo. Yasu is a total psycho.
>>15660651I don't know who wrote episodes 1 and 2. I think they were thrown in the sea by Beatrice. I just know that Battler did the others.And also that Yasu is neither male or female. That was poorly explained in the VN.
>>15660619>Yasu's mother is also her sister>Kinzo is Yasu's father and grandfatherThis is pretty fucked up
>>15660665It's implied to be male, since it's the identity it felt more secure with (Kanon, at episode 7).But it's actually purposedly left without explanation, it's the major sexual theme in the work after all.
>>15660672Well, I just checked, apparently, it losts his sexual organs when Natsuhi threw it down the cliff.Maybe Lion est more balanced, but the mutilated Yasu is neither male or female.>yfw you realize Battler tries to give Yasu a good ending but fails because he knows Yasu died
>>15660670There is more>Yasu wants fuck Jessica, Battler and George>his/her own niece and nephews/cousins
>>15660663If Kinzo hadn't fucked his daughter he wouldn't have had to be hidden and the whole Natushi thing wouldn't have even been a problem. Kinzo abused his kids and turned them into dicks. Kinzo made the bomb. Kinzo is the reason for the Ushiromiya family's issues.
>>15660688Yes and Kinzo is the reason that the whole family even exists. Your point?Nobody put a trigger to Yasu's head and forced him/her to become a murderer.
>>15660686And then she completely lost it when it is revealed to her (anyone in the world, really).Still think killing everybody was kinda too much, I would just kill myself or something.
>>15660695That his actions caused Yasu's mental instability in the first place. I'm not the person who said Yasu did nothing wrong.
>>15660688Pretty much this.Still love that bastard as a tragic character though. And for his memetic instance and great quotes, of course.
>>15660698Pretty anyone would freak out.>"hey, you've been raised as a girl, but you're actually a boy!">"also, you're impotent, you can't have sex!">"oh, and while you're at it, that old man you work for? He's your father. And also your grandfather because he fucked his own daughter.">"Oh yeah, and you'll never be able to get laid because you're a fucking cripple, having fun being the reject child of a deluded old fool"
>>15660701By this thread of logic, nobody should responsibility for their own actions. After all, it isn't Kinzo's fault he turned out this way, it's his parents fault for raising their kid to be a rapist and murderer.
>>15660706Not to mention:>"Everybody you ever loved are your cousins or nephews. Marrying them is impossible, it would be incestuous.">"All your dreams for love and search of identity are fucked.">"Do you want some tea--" "NOT NOW GENJI">"So, what you gonna do now? Kill everybody or something? haha">"Hey, wait, this was just a joke, wait!">small bombs happen
>>15660722Well. That just ruined Umineko forever.At least Higurashi had happy endings for everyone. Umineko is just the sad tale of delusions, emotions and stupidity culminating in 16 useless deaths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CghhwavahxMI fucking love Jessica's voice actor.
>>15660734Umineko has a very esoteric happy ending, but yeah. Definitely an Utsuge in my opinion as well.
>>15660739I dunno, Umineko isn't enough literal for me. I interpretated the ending as him dying for real.
>>15660698>Still think killing everybody was kinda too muchEspecially Jessica and Maria. They did nothing wrong, they were literally always on Yasu's side and helped him/her.
>>15660745Isn't it questionable if Yasu is even the culprit?
>>15660751I read on the wikia that Rudolf and Kyrie killed everyone but I don't imagine Rudolf able to kill anyone.
>>15660751Yasu is the culprit in the forgeries for sure. In real life Rudolf and Kyrie killed everyone though
>>15660765So yasu basically is a fake culprit. Why is she trying to take credit for the murders?
>>15660756Read ep7 tea party.Even if that is made up by Bern, i can imagine Rudolf as a killer, just like the rest of the siblings....except for Krauss maybe.
>>15660776Rudolf is putty in Kyrie's hands. Krauss would be too pussy to kill.
>>15660751>>15660756His plan failed because the adults discovered the epitaph's answer.As a result, everybody got in a huge discussion that ended getting everybody killed.As for the culprits being only Kyrie and Rudolph, this is kinda questionable, since [red]This is all the truth, more or less[red], meaning EP7 did happened in Rokkenjima Prime, but the events were slightly different.1- They could have killed everybody, but the things they said about Ange and all the family were just Auaurora's and Bernkastel's take in Eva's diary.2- They killed almost everybody, people got killed by them and by other adults too, and they really meant what they said.3- Both more or less.Episode 8 in the VN heavily imply the first case (and the manga confirms it).
>>15660776I have trouble figuring out what's "real" and what is forgery in Umineko.Not to mention concepts being taken literally, like the witches fighting with red truth.I still don't know what inspired the siestas and the eiserne jungfrau.
>>15660774She isn't a fake culprit, she really is the culprit in all the games. She was planning to kill everyone in real life too, but then the adults solved the epitath and all that
>>15659738I got into Umineko because I already was interested in the mystery genre anyway. Its just that I only liked baby mysteries and was younger at the time.
>>15660785Bern confirms in Episode 8 of the manga that Episode 7's Tea Party is what really happenedThe Chiesters are based on the rifles, and the numbers in their names are types of ammunition
>>15660784With the bomb being turned on, all they had to do was standing in the mansion and everyone would have died without anyone becoming the culprit.
>>15660785Siestas are Maria's bunnies.Eiserne Jungfrau is literally the embodiment of the mystery genre rules according Knox (that was "killed" as in a metaphoric sense by his own rules (Dlanor) over the years).Probably Ryukishi referring to this other deconstruction of the mystery genre:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/932784.Sins_for_Father_KnoxOr he just decided to deconstruct its character like he smartly did with Willard (who started caring about the heart).
>>15660783Krauss is actually a nice guy. Same with Hideyoshi. I can't imagine them as killers, only accomplices maybe. Same goes for Natsuhi.Killers could be: Eva, Rudolf, Kyrie, Rosa or Yasu.>>15660785The siestas were toy rabbits of Maria.
>>15660810Complicated.Good night mates, I'll see ya later.Slap Bern's ass a bit for me, will ya?
>>15660807That can't be the case though, since the manga shows Yasu and Battler finding the corpses
>>15660814Hideyoshi and Natushi wouldn't hurt a fly. Krauss like I said would be too chicken to do anything himself. Eva would kill everyone aside from her husband and son no questions asked if she could get away with it, but might hesitate a bit with the cousins. Rosa would kill everyone but Maria no questions asked. Kyrie's a special kind of crazy even ignoring the possibly untrue things Bern showed her saying in EP7. Yasu we know was prepared to kill.
>>15660814Hideyoshi killed Rudolf and Kyrie in Episode 3 according to the manga
>>15660843Episode 3 was a forgery however
>>15660843Knowing Rudolf and Kyrie, he killed them probably in self-defense. Putting aside the whole Eva was the murderer thing, I still don't think Hideyoshi would just kill someone unless it was an accident/self-defense - like it happened when he shot Krauss in ep7 tea party.>>15660838I don't think we should let out Battler of the killers list, now that I think about it. After all, we really don't know anything about him.
Alright, having gone back through my folders and reorganized my music player with the tracks I somehow left out, I've come to a total of 219 total official tracks for the soundtrack excluding the game sized versions of one or two of the VN openings.
>>15660871I don't think Battler would have it in him regardless of the situation. Had Rudolf stuck around for Battler to have met with him in EP7 and he found out instead of being tricked, he'd probably flip his shit.
>>15660888Who knows? After all, all the episode 1 and 2 were Yasu's fictions and episode 3 to 6 were Battler's. We don't know anything about the real Ushiromiya Battler - anything at all but the fact that he made a promise to Yasu when he was 12. Who knows, maybe 18 years old Battler acted more like Kyrie.
>>15660909Real Battler is shown in the Magic Ending, and he's a pretty cool guy
>>15660909The greatest story ever sold...
>>15660909Meta Battler is real Battler.
Does anyone have bwcreate.exe from bgitools?
>>15660437>laughing in redWhat did she mean by this?
>>15661001She thought it was REALLY funny!
>all these retards believing none of the meta was real
>>15660682Cant lose the butthole though.
>>15660744Read episode 8's manga.There is no ambiguity, the truth is laid out plain and bare.Also The meta exists.
>>15660909>>15660888Actually, B.Battler being possible is one of the theories I had, I mean, like anon said, we dont really know anything about Battler.Just imagine that if his hatred didnt die over the 6 years but instead just got bigger, even the cousins mention the year before he comes that it seems he will never be back and has probably left, then he conveniently returns right after his grandparents dies and the killing happens.
>>15660971>Tohya is afraid of battler because B.Battler is true>not because he may stop existing
>>15661051I like the idea of a pessimistic and ruined Battler disillusioned at his greedy and stupid family.
>>15661058>I'd like it if Battler was a completely different character.
>>15661066I'm not even saying it isn't a different characterization. It's just fun to think of a different way the story could have gone.
In episode 6 its revealed Beatrice goal was to love battler.. Where is that hidden within the games 1-4?
How would one go about making a fan work like the Nanjo fight scene that one Anon did? I'd be up for trying to make an alternate Battler culprit short story sometime and sharing it if it ever got anywhere.
>>15661066Actually, i'm pretty sure he would go through a change if everything in the ushiromiya family was revealed to him(Shkannon who he was still in love at the time for example) right around the same time his mother died. Being a 13 year old getting all this shit would do something at least. Its basically the reason why I like B.Battler so much, he would be more than possible if we didnt know Battler's character so well.
>>15660981>>15661027Meta is meta, that is, it is an another dimension.Batora-chan's character is a blank slot, deal with it.>>15661051Yep, or instead of hatred maybe he has just become a bastard not giving a shit, just like his own father and accepted that he can't change the Ushiromiya blood.
>>15661066>Battler prime is the same as the Battler we're shown in a shady story inside a bottle that contains battles with witches
>>15661087It's not a blank slot because Meta-Battler is the Battler we're familiar with and every Battler encountered has the same basic personality as him except Touya, who is so braindamaged he finds it painful to even remember being him. If you pretend the personalities depicted in the non-fantasy scenes is fake you're tossing out over half the game.
>>15661098>implying that bern and lambda don't real
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>>15661055
>>15661078There is visual novel software that's like a template and you could load in sprites and BGs from Umineko making a decent parody.Otherwise I'd be down if /jp/ would want to collaborate on a manga or something.
>>15661098I know who's behind this post
>>15661055He shouldn't fear this sexy beast.
>>15660785The Chiester's are Maria's ceramic bunnies as well as the rifles. Gertrude and Cornelia are the receipt in the door and the duct tape seals. Dlanor is the rules of mystery
>>15661297>There is visual novel software that's like a template and you could load in sprites and BGs from Umineko making a decent parodyAnd what would that be?
>>15660785>>15661456At the same time, everything in the Meta-world is most certainly real, considering that the voyagers are part of it, so one could say, just like piece Beato and meta Beato and piece Battler and meta Battler, they have dual existences.
>>15661532Isn't the Player Battler supposed to be Tohya's identity that was lost at sea? Hence why the manga shows Battler waking up in the meta world with Beatrice after drowning. Beatrice laments that Battler got pulled in with her, and after realizing that he had lost his memories, proceeds to start Legend of the Golden Witch in order to make him remember.
>>15661613I don't know shit about the manga, but I've always had the impression from the VN that the meta-explanation for Touya is that everything that makes Piece Battler Battler gets shunted into Meta Battler when he decides to stay with Beato, leaving his body as a different person.
>>15661428B.Battler seems like the kind of guy who would find a way to rape the willing
>>15661636I highly recommend reading Episode 8's manga at least. It has tons of new content. If nothing else, you should at least read the 3 chapters called Confession of the Golden Witch, which gives more details on Sayo Yasuda's life. Erika and Battler's fight scene was also changed into a rematch over the events of Episode 5, with Erika explaining how Battler was an accomplice. The drowning scene is also extended, leading into the beginning of Meta Battler and Beatrice's battle.
>>15661722Would Black Battler be able to embarrass and humiliate Erika? That's the real question.If it were me, I would force Erika to wear a strap on and rape Bernkastel. And if Erika starts getting doubts, I push her forwards to continue.
>>15661786What makes you think that would remotely humiliate her?
>>15661786If it were me, I'd spank Bernkastel while Erika is watching.
>>15661736Ugh. Sorry, I'm not that into retcons. Seriously, EP1 taking place after the end of EP8? Meta-Battler is the Battler from the EP1 fragment, there's no room for him to come from anywhere else.
>>15661790Master slave relationships are fun to switch over.Would you see Erika cause harm to Bernkastel? I don't think it would be possible. So forcing Erika to rape her master, the ultimate tool of power, would be extremely unwilling.Erika would gladly open her legs but I doubt she would pry open the legs of her master.
A slave who rapes his haughty mistress. Truly the best.>>15661797Boring, and not committal enough. Forcing Erika to be implicit in the act has more impact than her being unable to stop the spanking or rape.
>>15661804But if Meta Battler was supposed to be from Legend's fragment then how was he able to discover the truth of Rokkenjima Prime, which took place outside the realm of the gameboard? He probably just viewed the events of Episode 1 through the eyes of his piece.And either way, that doesn't discredit all the other explanations the manga offers.
>mfw I finally remember where I heared Umineko's gc-01>it's that fucking "an imperial guard was walking in the land of Solitude"
>>15661842>how was he able to discover the truth of Rokkenjima Prime, which took place outside the realm of the gameboard?Because he was outside of the gameboard ever since the final twilight? I don't understand how this is a question.>He probably just viewed the events of Episode 1 through the eyes of his piece.It's pretty clear that he had just experienced EP1 and nothing else as of the first tea party.
When will we get a masterpiece like Higurashi again?
>>15661804It's a forgery created by Featherine. That event never happened.
>>15661859Never. Higurashi was a structural mystery masterpiece. The way it made the reader paranoid is beyond genius.
The only fault I have of Higurashi is that the dental records is almost akin to the red truth and there should have been extra incentive to think that it might not be truthful.
>>15661849I mean outside ALL the gameboards. Meta Battler had knowledge of events that are never mentioned in any of the fragments shown on Beatrice's gameboard, events from the real world.>>15661873There's also the fact that some of the stuff with Hinamizawa Syndrome kinda breaks Knox's 4th, though I don't really see it as much of problem.
>>15661842Except you can't force Erika to spank or fuck Bern.Even if you put a weapon at the back of her head, she wouldn't.>>15661843Also, Steam's version of system0 removes the Star Trek lines.
>>15660180Why?
>>15661897>Even if you put a weapon at the back of her head, she wouldn't.Even if I tied her hands behind her back and pushed her forwards with my body? You naively think threats of violence would make her do any action. No, cause and effect. I push her in and the rape happens. She will be unable to stop herself from committing the rape. That's what makes it exciting. Erika would never willingly force herself on her master, so you have to force her into it.
>>15661914>You naively think threats of violence would make her do any actionI just said the literal opposite.>>15661911People hate fun I guess.
>>15661890>There's also the fact that some of the stuff with Hinamizawa Syndrome kinda breaks Knox's 4th, though I don't really see it as much of problem.Yeah, somewhat. Higurashi also breaks the Van Dine 13th as well.
Being Yasu is suffering>you're raised a a woman>but never get a period>you want to that stick that mutilated penis of you in the others servants>but you can't because that would make you a lesbian and it's kinda frowned upon>all female imaginary friends that you create have incredibly lewd outfits>except for Virgilia which is your surrogate motherYou think it was just fanservice that the Eiserne Jungfrau, the Siesta Sisters and the stakes all have these erotic clothes? I's a representation of Yasu's frustration.
>>15661936Rika had it worse.
>>15661967At least Rika knew who she was.Yasu was a crippled boy raised as a girl who has three differents personalities. Even Gwyndolin didn't have it that bad.
>>15661911>>15661936>>15661967>you will never walk around in your magic mansion>slapping the servants' asses so hard to resonates in the corridors>you'll never have the satisfaction of seeing the other servants jumping as they hear that dreaded sound
>>15661973Not knowing who you are does not make it more tortuous.
>>15661786>Would Black Battler be able to embarrass and humiliate Erika? That's the real question.It seems like he's more than able, considering his dialogue with her in OMK.Hell, he makes it sound rather easy.
>>15661981Do you think Kinzo ever fucked the maids? His entire set up is rather well made too>get an orphanage to be indebted to you>have them set their cutest girls>constantly have a rotation of new girls to spice things up>give them hush money after a few years of workEven Irie would be impressed.
>>15662007Hmmm. Well considering he's the only one who can break the meta rules, it's entirely likely he can do anything. Within the catbox of Umineko, he is essentially god.
>>15662022Though even to him, killing someone like Bern would take a miracle.
>>15662015I don't know about Kinzo, but I'm sure Rudolf did.>>15662022I don't know about that. I think this would be enough to stop him.
>>15662015I don't think so. He only really loved Beatrice, and he already hated himself a lot for what he did to her.
>>15662062Would such a thing work against Not-Battler-but-still-kinda-Battler from a world where Battler really is the culprit?
>>15662095What is that?
>>15662062>I think this would be enough to stop him.That only works for denying an answer, not the existence of the gameboard. Even the red truth couldn't kill Black Battler.
>>15662097It's a video game!
>>15662109That little crow is ridiculous as fuck. I would like Maria a lot more if it weren't for that ridiculous piece of shit.
>>15662111But the crown perfects the whole design. She'd just look like something is missing without it.
>>15662117Less is more.Just see Rika, she's perfectly fine.
>>15662121You just don't understand, man.The crown is the single most important piece of Maria's design.
>>15662125And thisi s why she's a terrible character.0/10 wouldn't spank or beat the crap out of.Would not even engage in a fight.
>>15662111I think that's the intent. The crown makes her look like a wierd autistic shit. You're not meant to like Maria, she's a shit. Without the crown, she would look normal, which is the opposite of what Maria is about.
>>15662128Well, that's fine, right?If she would summon such vile emotions from her design alone, I'd consider it a failure.>>15662138SOMETHINGISMISSING
>>15662138I really like her without the crown.Damn, that atrocious design actually makes sense.>>15662140So you consider Bernkastel and the stakes to be failures?
>>15662150Maria without her crown is like Lambda without gloves, or Dlanor without her hat, or George without glasses, or Kinzo without facial hair.It doesn't work.
>>15662164>Lambda without gloves>holding hands with Lamdba>with her gloves off>holding Lambda's naked handsYOU PERVERT
>>15662169That's not lewd enough.In public she holds your hand with her gloves. But in bed, under the covers, she tightly holds your hands without her gloves.
>>15662150I don't know how to tell you this anon, but most people don't fantasize about spanking girls 24/7
>got Umineko on Steam because all these music posted earlier caused massive nostalgia>it doesn't have Chiru's tracksFuck my shit up senpai.>>15662198ANONTHIS IS A BLUE BOARD
>>15662199
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>>15662212Yeah, I know that feeling too. I keep fantasizing about rape and stuff, but, well, you know...
>>15662354Holy shit, Kinzo looks like a boring old man.It's like he's lost all his cool factor.
>>15662363>me and another AnonThat was also me. When I don't speak about spanking, I talk about the characters, about how pathetic Yasu is, and how much of a fuck up Kinzo is.Thanks for posting a HD version of that picture, by the way. I only had a 500x500 version of it and editing it was a pain.Plus it's inaccurate, because now I also want to spank the stakes.
>>15662373>That was also meThat kinda ruins the joke, but meh.>Thanks for posting a HD version of that picture, by the way. I only had a 500x500 version of it and editing it was a painYeah, I was working on editing the 500x500 of a /pol/ edit but the entire thing was a bitch, full of artifacts and looked like shit. Took me awhile to track an HD of this page.
>>15662354I told you they'd look wrong.Especially Kinzo, who became angry Genji in a cape.
>>15662354Kinzo looks like shit.Georges looks like a bishonen.Lambdadelta looks LEWD.Dlanor is still meh. Try removing her armor, that'll ruin her.
>>15662381Thank for that, I'll have an easier time editing it.That being said, I used to hate Umineko because of how cryptic it was, it's only with these threads that I finally understood it.And I'm really annoyed, because I was pretty close to the solution.I just haven't figured that in the normal world, some episodes were written by Battler, and I took them all literally as Beatrice's game.But apparently, the manga explains a lot, and I never read it because no music.
And I also notice how deeply ironic the meta get.>Kinzo loves Beatrice>she dies>he refuses to aknowledge Beatrice the Second is a distinct person and treat her as his wife>Battler t-totally doesn't love Beatrice, you baka!>she dies>he creates another Beatrice>she calls him father, is very naive and DAMN CUTE>he can't stand herKinzo and Battler really are similar : they both want the Beatrice they love to come back.Except Kinzo fucks her while Battler gives her the cold shoulder.I want to pat Beatrice II on the head.
>>15662473That's kinda the point of ep 6, whenever Chick Beatrice is around.>Beatrice tries to smile>Battler does apeshit that it doesn't look anything like his old Beatrice
>>15662529Poor Beatrice has it rough.Not as rough as Beatrice the Second, though.
Can I lock up dai in my basement and have him compose songs for me?
>>15662578Have you ever watched the movie Misery?
>>15662535There's a missing opportunity of Beatrice serving Angeburgers.
>>15662604No but my since it's a Kings movie I should probably do that. It'll help as reference.
>>15662673The movie is related to your question.
>>15661240Meta Battler is based upon episode 1 Battler, who is in turn Yasu's fiction. And every Battler is based on that. So I wouldn't trust anything concerning Battler's personality.
>>15662431I want to suck on every toe of Erika.
>>15662354These are fucking awesome.Please do Rudolf, Krauss, Genji and Battler with a stache or beard.
>>15662779Yes, in Prime it is Yasu's fiction. However, it is also a real fragment, which means there is an unbroken thread from him to the Battler from six years ago which all relevant Battlers originate from. There's a limit to how much a person's basic personality can change in that time.
>>15659776The beginning reminds me of Vagrant Story.
>>15662838>There's a limit to how much a person's basic personality can change in that time.Dude, six years ago Battler was like 12 - at that age you don't even have a personality. People change the most in their teen years so that is why I think everything is possible.
>>15662915>at that age you don't even have a personalityFalse. I was a little shit when I was 12, and I treated everyone like crap.
>>15662920That's kinda the point, your personality is just being a little shithead and that can hardly be considered a personality.
>>15662925So Beatrice has no personality?
>>15662933What, how does Beatrice come into this discussion?
>>15662946She's a little shithead.
>>15662960She's not 12 you idiot.
>>15662970She's an inbred kid who was thrown down a cliff and has imaginary friends.That makes her mentally 12.
>>15662960Beatrice/Yasu is a very strange case. He/she is fucking crazy so it is stupid to expect from him/her to develop normally. Besides, he/she isn't 12 but he is certainly on the level of a child mentally.
>>15662915Back then Battler was already a wannabe Casanova and Yasu was already Beatrice minus the craziest parts.You don't change from a mostly normal kid to a complete psychopath just by going through puberty, dude.
>>15662985>You don't change from a mostly normal kid to a complete psychopath just by going through pubertyThere are many movies I'd like to quote, but I'll pass.
>>15662985>Battler was already a wannabe CasanovaExactly how does make it impossible for him to be a murderer? Rudolf is also a wannabe Casanova and we know what he can do.
>>15662995>Rudolf is also a wannabe CasanovaYou take that back.
>>15662995>Rudolf is also a wannabe CasanovaNo, Rudolf is an actual Casanova. Women were literally lining up to be fucked by him.
>>15662992>movies>having anything to do with real psychology or even book psychology>>15662995Nice job reading only the first half of my post dude. My point there was that he already had a personality and it was already somewhat similar to that of the Battler we know.
>>15663005>>15663000Nah, just remember the conversation from ep1. Kyrie mentioned how her "rose" goes after the "bugs" and not otherwise. He obviously chases after the pussy all the time and that is his weakness. Kinzo and others always make fun of him because of this.
>>15663011Which is why I didn't quote any, you twat.
>>15663015And that wasn't Casanova's weakness as well?
>>15663011No I read your post but I still don't get it what it proves besides Battler was a ladies man back then. The Battler we know is based on Yasu's bottle stories. Think what you want but I believe nothing is certain.
>>15663016Then why did you even bring it up?
>>15663031To say that I could, but chose to didn't because your line made me smile.
>>15663029The Battler we know also came from the six-years-ago Battler. Also, consider this: If Meta-Battler wasn't anything like the 'real' Battler, why the hell did Beatrice bother choosing him for her game to begin with?
>>15663015>Kyrie mentioned how her "rose" goes after the "bugs" and not otherwise.I'm sorry, how does that not make him a Casanova who had every women lined up to fuck him?>Kyrie mentioned how her "rose" goes after the "bugs" and not otherwise.Yeah, meaning she has to keep her reigns on him because he's a Casanova.Battler is a wannabe, not Rudolf.
>>15663022Oh well, I was just replying to that sentence that women stand in line to fuck him, which implies that he doesn't put any effort into getting women which I believe is obviously not true.
>>15663029Real Battler is in the Magic Ending though. At least I assume that's what really happened, since Tohya remembers it
>>15663038>Also, consider this: If Meta-Battler wasn't anything like the 'real' Battler, why the hell did Beatrice bother choosing him for her game to begin with?Because he was....nicer? The whole story of Umineko is about deceiving yourself into believing in happy lies and all that stuff.>>15663041Okay, whatever. It doesn't matter, we misunderstood each other. Sorry.>>15663049Kinzo also remembered things differently about the italians and their gold.....
>>15663049So it is true that you can't understand the whole thing without reading the manga.
>>15663062>Because he was....nicer? The whole story of Umineko is about deceiving yourself into believing in happy lies and all that stuff.Are you fucking kidding me. If it didn't matter if he was the real Battler or not, she'd just either have one who would remember at a moment's notice or one who was actually competent enough to kill her right.
>>15663083>implying there was even one Battler who remembered his promiseMiracles don't exist, baka.
>>15663092Magic does exist! Haven't you learned anything?
>>15663092Would remember, as in after just a littler prodding, not already does remember.
>>15663103Point is, Yasutrice would have certainly chosen one of those Battlers if he could. But he didn't so it is safe to assume those don't exist at all.>>15663100Magic is the fool's logic.
>>15663115Erika, please.
>>15663115>But he didn't so it is safe to assume those don't exist at all.you're not getting my point are youalso>he
>>15663123also isn't your whole argument that he ISN'T a real Battler
>>15663123>>15663127Seems like we have a disturbance in the flow of communication. So let's simplify things again:>Meta Battler isn't the real Battler>he is based on ep1 Battler>meaning his character is a fabrication by Yasu>Yasu chose this Battler because he couldn't accept the fact that the real Battler is a murderer>he chose this Battler because he resembled the most the 12-year old Battler>heSorry but a mutilated penis is still a penis.>>15663121This level of reasoning is possible for Furudo Erika. Whar do you think everyone?
>>15663127WHAT IS A BATTLER?
>>15663174I can't take any of the witches seriously with faces like that.
>>15663175a kiss in a hallway
>>15663175Mix of a fool and Burger.>>15663179>taking anyone seriously in seacats
>>15663191>"he is the fool who made the world where everyone could be happy come to nothing">implying Georges and Jessica wouldn't have been heartbroken to learn the truth about Yasu
>>15663174you know whatfuck it.I was wondering why I was the only one replying to you, but it's because your arguement is too retarded for anyone else to argue against. I'm not going to even try anymore.
>>15663175A short story by Hemingway.
>>15663203Oh, you can't admit defeat, can you? Sore losers are the worst, you know! But yeah, if you run out of arguments let's just call the other a retard, t-that will show them!!!
>>15663199The whole point of the Golden Land was to hide the truth and live happily while everyone deludes themselves. So essentially Battler destroyed that in ep1 tea party.
>>15663232No, the reason I called your arguement retarded instead of wrong is because of the fact that despite it being REALLY stupid there's no evidence I can think of off the top of my head to contradict it.The fact is, I'm tired of arguing against somebody to the point where my only option is to argue from a Doylist perspective.
>>15663250Or maybe he's just trolling you and you haven't picked up on it.
>>15663261Maybe. Would be comforting to know that there isn't a person with this twisted of a view of the game.
What is the whole head test supposed to convey in episode 4?
>>15663317That Yasu is a bitch
>>15661859>>15661865We got a even better one in all senses, Umineko that is.We don't need that shitty nakama power ending in there (instead we got a rather glorious massive downer ending with a rather happy resolution for all of its themes and messages).Also>Implying Umineko or any other 07th Expansion work don't make you just as paranoid
>>15663401Umineko is a clusterfuck though while Higurashi stays good all the way
>>15663401I was already paranoid before finding out about it. Actually playing the series just makes it feel like you met a good old friend again.
Gonna try making the next thread with yesterday's suggestion in a few hours. I removed the explanation credits as told and I'm probably still forgetting a few things to add, meaning it will be far from perfect, but we can fix that as we go.
>>15663409Umineko makes perfect sense in its context if you actually try to solve it (or just read the explicit manga).Being a clusterfuck doesn't necessarily being it's bullshit, the whole story is a gigantic mind-screwdriver, if you know this trope.Higurashi has plot-holes and mystery rules violations, instead, not good all the way in my modest opinion (the final arc kinda dropped the ball pretty badly, especially).
>>15663401>nakama power endingThat's kind of what happens though, at least at the end of the fight against Bern
>>15663450BernkASStel get rekt.>>15663449Higurashi has a very good atmosphere. Umineko has too much music.
>>15663459>too much musicIs that really supposed to be a negative thing which supports what you're trying to say?
>>15663467Are you dense or just stupid?
>>15663450Hm, I will give my opinion about that too.In Umineko's cases it was purely symbolic iirc, nothing of that was actually happening (unless you want to consider the magic part not as being the huge symbolism net it actually represents).In Higurashi that pretty much happened for real.Adding, correct me if I'm wrong, but EP8 is Tohya's alter ego and Ikkuko's "miko" writing the same "book" as they discuss their respective interpretations about the truth according to Eva's diary, since EP7's by Ikuko wasn't that much of what Tohya actually thought himself about the situation (which causes the double gamemaster plot point in EP8 in the first place).>>15663459Umineko has an amazingly immersive OST, that being said, a very atmospheric one. Your argument is rather poor (implying too much music is bad, when the whole soundtrack is glorious and fit the moments rather perfectly too).
>>15663459>Umineko has too much music>Music doesn't contribute to its good atmosphere
>>15663476Because it doesn't. Check Higurashi, due to music being quite rare, each time the game throw a spooky wav sound at you, it has a lot of impact. In Umineko, except for the first episode, you always have some music running in the background.
>>15663472>>15663476Complementing, Higurashi is only nearly as atmospheric because of the good use of its OST and sound effects, just like Umineko (except that one has it in a much MUCH larger scale).Umineko is a huge step up from Higurashi in that matter, specially, I really don't get this whole "there's too much music" thing lately.
>>15663479Now that you said, it, this reminds me why is this even an argument.One key word for you all:Sound-Novel
>>15663478And the music can be quite spooky as well, creating the immersion. It's not any less atmospheric, just in a different way. Umineko as a whole is completely different from EP1 anyway. You're trying to look at Umineko as if it were Higurashi, which it's not. The music in Umineko has an incredible atmospheric impact across a variety of moods.
>>15663478So having a limited amount of music to match the mood of a moment is apparently better than multiple melodies that are made by the author to match the specific moment, which also gives an even more "impact". And that on not some ebook or anime either.I don't know if you're even trying
>>15663489Except it isn't. You literally can't be scared for the characters when you have miragecoordinator or Dread From The Grave playing in the background.
>>15663478Umineko has tons of these moments too.The difference is that the OST is 5 times bigger, the VN is double the lenght of its predecessor, and that these moments are very well spread through the whole thing, intead of not being restricted to the paranoia fuel latter half of each arc, like in Higurashi.
>>15663498>Except it isn't.Not an argument>You literally can't be scared for the characters when you have miragecoordinator or Dread From The Grave playing in the background.You *literally* can. Dread of the Grave doesn't play in moments detrimental to characters, and Miragecoordinator is plenty dramatic. And since you're obviously forgetting about the plethora of other tracks, Ridicule was perfect for EP7. Same with Terminal Entrance. Same with 7-weights. Again, "scared for characters" for you is extremely limited because you're trying to read Umineko as if it were supposed to be Higurashi II.
>>15663508>"you can't be scared because these sounds are not spooky">YEAH U CAN STOP BEING RETARDED BECUASE IT ISNT HUGURAHSIYawn. I guess we're done here.
>>15663498I don't think the main point in Umineko is to scare the players (nor is Higurashi, specially Kai), it's just a very well used recurring element in the 07th Expansion VNs, but ok.
>>15663512Ridicule is spooky. Terminal Entrance is spooky. 7-weights is spooky. Miragecoordinator is tense and matches the atmosphere of the scenes it's included in. Don't get mad at me because you can't offer a good argument.
>>15663512Also, you never said "you can't be scared because these sounds are not spooky", I had to assume that from you, so good job.
>>15663518You're missing his point. He greentexted and quoted that phrase. That's double the quote. It's amazing how you manage to twist that meaning at that pointAnd he's probably not mad at you. Nobody is. We just got tired of your shit.
One thing I hate about Higurashi's soundtrack (mostly 1-4) is that some of the songs are so low qualityTake this one for instance. It isn't a bad song, but the quality of the audio is so bad, especially around 0:50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrbSG7wKFaA
>>15663528>You're missing his pointNo I'm not>It's amazing how you manage to twist that meaning at that point. And he's probably not mad at you. Nobody is. We just got tired of your shit.What
Readin all this, all I can say is:Scary moments/spooky stuff =/= the only thing meant to be atmospheric in a work of fictionThat said, I remind you all that Umineko is 10x more atmospheric exactly because the vast OST match all the key moments, like if it was Beatoriche and DESIRE.Even if Higurashi were to have better suspenseful moments because of its OST and sound effects (which I disagree, and even found Manga Gamer's OST to be more atmospheric and intense than the original), Umineko would still win in any other atmospheric aspect of the story.I mean, just LISTEN TO THIS SHIThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyGKXb17dV0
>>15663536It was literally Ryukushiu's first job.>>15663538Bice shitty opinion. Too bad it's wrong.
>>15663537>you're wrong>reply with "no I'm not"ha ha gottem it's a foolproof plan
>>15663541>Nice shitty opinion. Too bad it's wrong.Great argument
>>15663544Ignore him, he probably not even read our replies anyway.
>>15663544Thanks, glad you agree on you being wrong.
>>15663538I guess I'm gonna play Higurashi with manga gamer's soundtrack now.Did not expected that kind of quality for a suspenseful music, weren't they newbies when they did this project?
>>15663551Translation-wise, yes (they got way better eventually). But they always did a nice job with editings and stuff from as long as I remember.Maybe they had a contact who was good at making music or something.
>>15663538Does anyone who composed MangaGamer's music? It's actually not bad
>>15663538>10#7 and #9 are objectively better and if you disagree, you're a shitter.
>>15663560>Does anyone who composed MangaGamer's musicI who composed it. I very proud of who did it.
>>15663563Hm, I honestly liked them all (even the school theme). It's a neat little gem, this OST.
>>15663576You can like them. But 7 and 9 are the best. Especially 9, who's very mysterious and spooky, despite being more or less a 10 second loop.
>>15663560I've heard before that dai made it, but I'm not too sure if that's actually true. I can't find any credible sources for it at least
>>15663594>Inb4 they were Ryukishi's original tracks that he himself made from zero.That would be awesome to hear desu
>>15661098Except the message bottles don't contain the meta side of the story, they only have the game boards.
Make sure to tell me if I need to edit something. It's about an hour or so faster than usual, but we hit 500, so it should be good enough.>>15663610>>15663610>>15663610
>>15663618Are the explanations posted by OCD-kun tweaked? There were some outdated stuff he wanted us to correct in that thread, a week ago.
>>15663576This one gives me such a huge nostalgia trip...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hajC8at2kcw&list=PLB005D478D1E99E92&index=2
>>15663630The corrections some of you guys made while he was writing are all included.If someone posted something related to that infodump hours after he finished writing them, then I might not have it added. If so, tell me where and and what I should add and I'll fix the pastebin on spot.
>>15662466Search the channel goldsmith, he has the entirety of EP8's manga with music, sound effects and sometimes voices.
>>15663641Awesome, great job, thread anon.
>>15663645>channel goldsmithWow, this looks awesome, I'm definitely subscribing.
How was beatrice trying to share magic with Battler? it seems like she was just torturing him in all the games.
>>15664424She gotta be tsundere
I know this is a bit off topic but has anyone been to a mystery event? Like one of those where the organizers create a mystery for the paying customers. I've got no one else to ask, so I'm asking you guys. Are those types of events worth it? This one specifically is 2 days long all meals included for 120 €
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